Re: [sage-support] Re: Trouble with the binary version of Sage 4.4.3 on Fedora 12
On 21.06.2010 11:08, Harald Schilly wrote: On Jun 20, 10:53 pm, SteveDunbarsdun...@maa.org wrote: $ rpm -qa | grep libstdc++ libstdc++-4.4.3-4.fc12.x86_64 libstdc++-4.4.3-4.fc12.i686 So it appears that the g++ is missing at least.. I nearly don't know anything about fedora but according to that the error message was valid and you have to install some rpms related to libstdc++-6.*-dev. Please report back if you have success or if the error message is a different one ;) H Better try as su from command line: # yum install libstdc++ or $ sudo yum install libstdc++ Fedora13 offers libstdc++-4.4.4.2.f13.xyz, where xyz is your system - 32bit or 64 bit, to my knowlege fedora will find the correct version automatically. Regards BB -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org
Re: [sage-support] Re: Trouble with the binary version of Sage 4.4.3 on Fedora 12
On 21.06.2010 12:59, bb wrote: On 21.06.2010 11:08, Harald Schilly wrote: On Jun 20, 10:53 pm, SteveDunbarsdun...@maa.org wrote: $ rpm -qa | grep libstdc++ libstdc++-4.4.3-4.fc12.x86_64 libstdc++-4.4.3-4.fc12.i686 So it appears that the g++ is missing at least.. I nearly don't know anything about fedora but according to that the error message was valid and you have to install some rpms related to libstdc++-6.*-dev. Please report back if you have success or if the error message is a different one ;) H Better try as su from command line: # yum install libstdc++ or $ sudo yum install libstdc++ Fedora13 offers libstdc++-4.4.4.2.f13.xyz, where xyz is your system - 32bit or 64 bit, to my knowlege fedora will find the correct version automatically. Regards BB Sorry, libstdc++ is a wrong path! I read the original mail. Fedora does not know gcc! You need gcc-c++ As su: # yum install gcc-c++ or as normal user: $ sudo yum install gcc-c++ Following that installation fedora will know $ g++ -v = some long text ... Reagrds BB -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org
Re: [sage-support] intallation fédora 13 fail
On 21.06.2010 12:04, David Kirkby wrote: On 8 June 2010 20:27, William Steinwst...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 10:43 AM, David Kirkbydavid.kir...@onetel.net wrote: I'm probably hitting my head against a wall, but would it not be better if the Sage project decided to actually *test* on certain operating systems and versions before making a release? The Sage project does actually *test* on certain operating systems and versions before making a release. -- William -- William Stein The problem is that few people know what they are. It would be far better if README.txt would state, that every single version of Sage is tested on ... then give a list of operating systems and versions. At the minute, README.txt says: Building of Sage from source is regularly tested on (minimal installs of) the following platforms: PROCESSOROPERATING SYSTEM x86 32-bit Linux -- Debian, Ubuntu, CentOS (=Red Hat), Fedora, openSUSE, Mandriva, Arch x86_64 64-bit Linux -- Debian, Ubuntu, CentOS (=Red Hat), Fedora, openSUSE, Mandriva, Arch IA-64 Itanium 2 64-bit Linux -- Red Hat, SUSE x86 Apple Mac OS X 10.4.x, 10.5.x, 10.6.x PPC Apple Mac OS X 10.4.x, 10.5.x, 10.6.x SparcSolaris 10 That is not very helpful. What I believe we need is a list of systems on which *every* release of Sage will be built and tested *before* a release is made. Then someone who wants to *use* Sage would know that choosing one of those operating systems and versions would give them a workable Sage, and be reasonably confident that installing a later version of Sage on that same system will result in another working version of Sage. If I interceded setting up a Sage server in a college, I'd like to install an OS that I know Sage will be tested on. It was not that many months ago when a release was made which did not build on Fedora, despite Jaap had actually reported the problem before the release was made. His email got overlooked. Note also the above says minimal install. I somewhat doubt that is the case. I doubt a minimal install on Solaris 10 would include a C compiler. A thread yesterday with someone with Fedora 12 indicates to me he might be missing a library from what he says was a minimal install. I don't know if it is because of Fedora's high popularity or not, but Fedora seems to get quite a few issues with Sage. If we state we support Fedora 11 and 12, then we should test on it. If Fedora bring out a new release, and Sage does not work, it is not a big problem. We can resolve that later. It would be unreasonable to hold up a Sage release because Linux Fedora/openSUSE/Redhat/Solaris etc have bought out a new release which does not work. But it is not unreasonable to check Sage before release on an agreed set of systems. Then users would know what to chose if they want to use Sage, rather than forever be fighting installation problems. Dave Dave Fedora13 does not hve installed g++! Fedora's package repository does not know g++! To make g++ available you have to install gcc-c++. As su: # yum install gcc-c++ or as normal user: $ sudo yum install gcc-c++ After taht installation fedora will know g++, so that make can use it. $ g++ -v = some long text ... I had that problem with another package on fedora13. I can't tell you for sure, that this a solution of all installtion problems, bit I will immediately check an installtion of sage-4.4.3 on my fedora13. You know that lasts a couple of hours. Regards BB -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org
[sage-support] error building sage on fedora13
First check if the prerequisite compilers are available. As a rule they are not in a standard installation of fedora! Usually these compilers are missing. 1. $ gcc -v 2. $ gfortran -v the appearing text will inform you if gcc is available ore not. (I assume most readers know how to install packages, let me describe it anyway.) Independently you can install that compilers without any previos check: use su: # yum install gcc-c++ gcc-gfortran or as normal user: $ sudo yum install gcc-c++ gcc-gfortran The naming convention of the packages differs from the other Linux distros I know and use! Debian for instance uses simple g++ for g++ and calls gfortran simply gfortran in the package repository. Don not ask me for a reason. Red Hat is making things different just as a rule and in my oppinion sooner or later it will be a completely different distro. The error: Whatever I do and whatever I install the build of sage version 4.4.3 will stuck with an error in the sage-directory libgcrypt-1.4.4.p2 after about 1 minute. fedora 13 has installed libgcrypt-1.4.5-4. Are this versions compatible?? As there are no other mails about problems with fedora13 libgcrypt I do not believe that this is a fedora-problem. But on different sage groups I found the remark concerning saae-4.4.2 from about Mai 2010 There seems to be a problem with libgcrypt on Fedora 13. It looks like someone found a fix athttp://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?f=13t=33860#p121003. http://w2.hidemyass.com/index.php?q=aHR0cDovL2ZvcnVtLnZpZGVvbGFuLm9yZy92aWV3dG9waWMucGhwP2Y9MTMmYW1wO3Q9MzM4NjAjcDEyMTAwMy4%3D##p121003. We will try to get this fixed for the next release of Sage. To my regret, that given link is not available - 404. Does there any sage-user have this fix? I f it is any? And can make this bublic? Regards bb -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org
[sage-support] set graphic viewer Linux
Sage Graphic will always open Gimp on my Linux System (debian lenny). I would like to display Sage graphics for instance with Kview or some program else. I am not shure if this is a Sage issue, may be it is a debian default. Does anyone have experience with this under Linux? Tnx and regards BB -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org
Re: [sage-support] Sage to run automatically in CLI
clinton bowen schrieb: How do i get sage to run automatically in ubuntu? I would like to be able to just type 'sage' into command line and it run automatically. I used to be able to do this but not anymore and I forgot how to do this. Thanks, Clinton You find a description in the install guide: http://www.sagemath.org/doc/installation/binary.html. The title Pre-built Binary Install is something misleading, because you can also use that procedure with sage build from source as well. Reagrds BB -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org
Re: [sage-support] How to Reverse an Binary Array
Santanu Sarkar schrieb: Suppose A=[0,0,1,1,0,1]. How one can reverse this array using commend only? -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org sage: A=[0,0,1,1,0,1] sage: A.reverse() sage: A [1, 0, 1, 1, 0, 0] sage: -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org
[sage-support] Table of operator precedence incomplete
operator precedence sage: 3==3+1 False Correct, because concerning to the perecedence list on http://www.sagemath.org/doc/tutorial/appendix.html + has a higher precedence than ==. The text says, that the table is based on the table in § 5.14 of the /Python Language Reference Manual/, but that is not complete as well. There the shortcut operators +=, -=, *=, /= are missing and the = (normally equivalent precedence) are missing as well. sage: x=3==3 sage: x+=3==3 sage: x 2 sage: Parenthesis have high precendence, normally highest (beside Object operators), but are missing in Sage table sage: (3==3)+1 2 sage: a=3==3; b=a+1 sage: a,b (True, 2) sage: sage: The Operator == has higher precedence than =, but the later is missing as well in the sage table. Regards BB -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org
Re: [sage-support] power function with runtime error
Mike Hansen schrieb:
On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 11:52 AM, bb bblo...@arcor.de wrote:
I get a runtime error, but just would expect infinity! Is there something
wrong or any explanation?
This is because when you do 2^3^4^5 you are computing that number
exactly as an integer, and that number is definitely not infinity. If
you wanted to use floating point arithmetic, then you should start
with something like 2.0:
sage: 2.0^3^4^5
+infinity
Doing something like float(2^3^4^5) computes 2^3^4^5 as an integer and
then tries to convert that to a float.
Also, note that when you type in such an expression, the operations
are done in the following manner:
var(sage: var('x, y, z')
(x, y, z)
sage: x^y^z
x^(y^z)
which is different than
sage: (x^y)^z
(x^y)^z
Since exponentiation is non-associative, you need to be careful with
such differences.
--Mike
Thank you for your answer! I think there is a fundamental question left
apart from the question of assoziativity/non-assoziativity. There Sage
(I think coming from python) does not follow the common rule to evaluate
an expression with operators of the same precedence from left tor right.
Since Georg Cantor there is a difference between countable infinity (in
the actual example) and noncountable infinity ( in the example
calculated with a float). I would not say, that infinity is wrong in
this case, only just because there is existing an infinite set of
integers so that infinity never might be reached. (I think that is the
line of argument of your explanation?) The essential point is, one has
to map the unlimited ideas of math to the restricted possibilities of a
computer.
From a mathamatical point of view one can call the result of the
calculation
sage: 2^(3^(4^5))
---
RuntimeError Traceback (most recent call last)
/home/bb/sage-4.3.5/ipython console in module()
/home/bb/sage-4.3.5/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages/sage/rings/integer.so
in sage.rings.integer.Integer.__pow__ (sage/rings/integer.c:12114)()
RuntimeError: exponent must be at most 9223372036854775807
sage:
just a bug! Infinity is infinity, if countable or not countable. The
correct math-answer only could be countable infinity! But I think
infinity would in any case be better than RuntimeError as an answer!
May be one might introduce a new constant countable infinity? Anyway,
I only can recommend the Sage people to catch/raise an exception to
handle that case of an integer overflow of an exponent and avoid the
landing in the mathematical nirvana of a RuntimeError. If one thinks
about that problem, one might find that any integer overflow of an
exponent always ends in contable infinity in due consideration of the
computer limits.
Regards BB
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[sage-support] revion of tour-de.html
I did some changes in the format. -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org Title: Sage - Tour v4.3.5 (2010-03-28) an / Share fr zh de RSS Blog Trac Report Bugs Wiki Feedback Search: open source mathematics software Try Online: sagenb / KAIST or Download Links Development Download Library Help Tour Intro Quickstart Graphics Research Benchmarks Sage-Feature-Tour This work is a derivative work, a translation prepared by Bernhard Blchl from „A Tour of Sage“ at http://www.sagemath.org/doc/a_tour_of_sage/. The current German translation is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 License. Sage besteht aus annhernd 100 Open-Source-Programm-Paketen und zeichnet sich durch eine einheitliche Oberflche aus. Sage kann in vielen Feldern der Mathematik zur Problemlsung eingesetzt werden: in den Grundlagen der Mathematik, der hheren Mathematik, der reinen sowie der angewandten Mathematik. Sage deckt so ein riesiges Feld mathematischer Aufgaben ab, darunter Grundlagen der Algebra, Differentialrechnung, elementare Zahlentheorie bis an die Grenzen des Fachgebiets, Kryptographie, numerische Berechnung, abelsche Algebra, Gruppentheorie, Kombinatorik, Graphentheorie, exakte lineare Algebra und vieles mehr. Daran kann sich Simon King abarbeiten, den ich fr einen Schnsel halte. Sage vereinigt mehrere Softwarepakete und integriert deren Funktionen zu einem ganzheitlichen Erlebnis (common experience). Sage ist ideal fr den Einsatz in Bildung und Ausbildung und auch der Forschung und Industrie und fr die Bereiche Wirtschaft und Finanzen geeignet. Als Anwenderschnittstelle kann das „Notebook“ (vergleichbar einem Notizbuch) in einem beliebigen Browser oder aber die Zeileneingabe dienen. Die Notebook-Oberflche verbindet sich entweder lokal mit Ihrer eigenen Sage-Installation oder mit einem Sage-Server im Internet. In einem Sage-Notebook-Dokument knnen Sie Grafiken einbetten, mathematische Formeln lassen sich schn formatieren, Eingaben knnen hinzugefgt und gelscht werden und Sie knnen Ihr Ergebnis ber das Netz verteilen. Die folgende Übersicht zeigt einige Mglichkeiten und Screenshots von Sage und verschafft einen ersten Einblick in die Features von Sage. Die Beispiele zeigen die Eingaben der Sage-Anweisungen auf der linken Seite, begleitet von einer Erklrung auf der rechten Seite. Die Beispiele geben lediglich einen grundlegenden Eindruck davon, was Sage kann. Um eine genauere Beschreibung zu erhalten, ziehen Sie die Dokumentation oder die Sage-Bibliothek zu Rate. Quickstart with Sage — In dieser Einfhrung werden die grundlegenden Konzepte beschrieben und Sie erhalten einen ersten Eindruck von Sage (englisch). Sage Graphics — zeigt Beispiele von ntzlichen Plots und zur Visualisierung (englisch). Sage in Research — zeigt einige ntzliche Mglichkeiten fr die hhere Mathematik (englisch). Sage Benchmarks — vergleicht die Rechenzeit von Sage mit anderen Systemen (englisch). Documentation: A Guided Tour The interactive Shell Basic Algebra and Calculus Plotting, 2D and 3D Basic Rings Univariate and Multivariate Polynomials Linear Algebra (Vector, Matrix, ...) Finite Groups Advanced Mathematics in Sage More about Sage Testimonials, Success Stories and News — lesen Sie, was andere ber Sage schreiben. Screenshots Screenshots geben einen Eindruck, wie ein Sage-Notebook aussieht. Pictures — eine Sammlung von mit Sage erstellten Grafiken. Interact — Beispiele fr die interaktiven Fhigkeiten zur Grafikerstellung.
Re: [sage-support] revion of tour-de.html
Minh Nguyen schrieb: Hi Bernhard, 2010/4/22 bb bblo...@arcor.de I did some changes in the format. Could you please attach the relevant html file? -- Regards Minh Van Nguyen I attached the corrected file tour-de.html hat is placed at http://www.sagemath.org/tour.html at the original (english) sagemath web page in this mail aigain. I think that is what you meant? In that revised version only just one missing paragraph and a missing /a was added. If I misunderstood your mail, please specify! Regards BB -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org Title: Sage - Tour v4.3.5 (2010-03-28) an / Share fr zh de RSS Blog Trac Report Bugs Wiki Feedback Search: open source mathematics software Try Online: sagenb / KAIST or Download Links Development Download Library Help Tour Intro Quickstart Graphics Research Benchmarks Sage-Feature-Tour This work is a derivative work, a translation prepared by Bernhard Blchl from „A Tour of Sage“ at http://www.sagemath.org/doc/a_tour_of_sage/. The current German translation is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 License. Sage besteht aus annhernd 100 Open-Source-Programm-Paketen und zeichnet sich durch eine einheitliche Oberflche aus. Sage kann in vielen Feldern der Mathematik zur Problemlsung eingesetzt werden: in den Grundlagen der Mathematik, der hheren Mathematik, der reinen sowie der angewandten Mathematik. Sage deckt so ein riesiges Feld mathematischer Aufgaben ab, darunter Grundlagen der Algebra, Differentialrechnung, elementare Zahlentheorie bis an die Grenzen des Fachgebiets, Kryptographie, numerische Berechnung, abelsche Algebra, Gruppentheorie, Kombinatorik, Graphentheorie, exakte lineare Algebra und vieles mehr. Daran kann sich Simon King abarbeiten, den ich fr einen Schnsel halte. Sage vereinigt mehrere Softwarepakete und integriert deren Funktionen zu einem ganzheitlichen Erlebnis (common experience). Sage ist ideal fr den Einsatz in Bildung und Ausbildung und auch der Forschung und Industrie und fr die Bereiche Wirtschaft und Finanzen geeignet. Als Anwenderschnittstelle kann das „Notebook“ (vergleichbar einem Notizbuch) in einem beliebigen Browser oder aber die Zeileneingabe dienen. Die Notebook-Oberflche verbindet sich entweder lokal mit Ihrer eigenen Sage-Installation oder mit einem Sage-Server im Internet. In einem Sage-Notebook-Dokument knnen Sie Grafiken einbetten, mathematische Formeln lassen sich schn formatieren, Eingaben knnen hinzugefgt und gelscht werden und Sie knnen Ihr Ergebnis ber das Netz verteilen. Die folgende Übersicht zeigt einige Mglichkeiten und Screenshots von Sage und verschafft einen ersten Einblick in die Features von Sage. Die Beispiele zeigen die Eingaben der Sage-Anweisungen auf der linken Seite, begleitet von einer Erklrung auf der rechten Seite. Die Beispiele geben lediglich einen grundlegenden Eindruck davon, was Sage kann. Um eine genauere Beschreibung zu erhalten, ziehen Sie die Dokumentation oder die Sage-Bibliothek zu Rate. Quickstart with Sage — In dieser Einfhrung werden die grundlegenden Konzepte beschrieben und Sie erhalten einen ersten Eindruck von Sage (englisch). Sage Graphics — zeigt Beispiele von ntzlichen Plots und zur Visualisierung (englisch). Sage in Research — zeigt einige ntzliche Mglichkeiten fr die hhere Mathematik (englisch). Sage Benchmarks — vergleicht die Rechenzeit von Sage mit anderen Systemen (englisch). Documentation: A Guided Tour The interactive Shell Basic Algebra and Calculus Plotting, 2D and 3D Basic Rings Univariate and Multivariate Polynomials Linear Algebra (Vector, Matrix, ...) Finite Groups Advanced Mathematics in Sage More about Sage Testimonials, Success Stories and News — lesen Sie, was andere ber Sage schreiben. Screenshots Screenshots geben einen Eindruck, wie ein Sage-Notebook aussieht. Pictures — eine Sammlung von mit Sage erstellten Grafiken. Interact — Beispiele fr die interaktiven Fhigkeiten zur Grafikerstellung.
Re: [sage-support] Re: revion of tour-de.html
Simon King schrieb: For those of you who can't understand German: Bernhard' text contains the words Daran kann sich Simon King abarbeiten, den ich für einen Schnösel halte., which means Simon King, whom I consider snotty- nosed, may throw himself at this. Just to inform you, before you consider putting his contribution to any Sage site. Anyway, I am not going to feed that troll any further. Beside that revange for some of Simon Kings postings I think the text is quite nice! Regards BB -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org
Re: [sage-support] How do I clear some variables after declaring them?
eric948470 schrieb:
If I declare some variables, and after completing the calculation I
don't want them to be variables anymore, how do I make them not
variables anymore?
Thanks,
Eric
Use reset(), that will clear all Variables with exception of some global
or system vataibale.
Another way is to use restore with a list of the variable namens in the
parenthesis, exapmlöe restore('a,b').
You can check the active variables wikt who or whose.
Reagrds BB
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[sage-support] reset()
I have some problem with reset(): sage: reset() sage: x x sage: a --- NameError Traceback (most recent call last) /home/bb/sage-4.3.5/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages/sage/all_cmdline.pyc in module() NameError: name 'a' is not defined sage: a=x sage: a x sage: reset() sage: y --- NameError Traceback (most recent call last) /home/bb/sage-4.3.5/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages/sage/all_cmdline.pyc in module() NameError: name 'y' is not defined sage: y=x sage: y x There is magically declared a variable x, even after each reset()? Is this a feature or a bug? Regards BB -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org
Re: [sage-support] Re: reset()
Harald Schilly schrieb: On Apr 19, 11:36 am, bb bblo...@arcor.de wrote: There is magically declared a variable x, even after each reset()? Is this a feature or a bug? Short answer: feature ;) (and there are also other magically declared variables, like RDF ...) H Tnx! Is there any explanation why the magic ends with del ? sage: del x sage: x --- NameError Traceback (most recent call last) /home/bb/sage-4.3.5/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages/sage/all_cmdline.pyc in module() NameError: name 'x' is not defined sage: So the feature theses fits like a glove? Regards bb -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org
Re: [sage-support] Re: reset()
Alex Ghitza schrieb: On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 13:09:34 +0200, bb bblo...@arcor.de wrote: Tnx! Is there any explanation why the magic ends with del ? sage: del x sage: x --- NameError Traceback (most recent call last) /home/bb/sage-4.3.5/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages/sage/all_cmdline.pyc in module() NameError: name 'x' is not defined sage: So the feature theses fits like a glove? A very popular feature is introspection. In this particular case, doing sage: reset? would tell you what reset does: Delete all user defined variables, reset all globals variables back to their default state, and reset all interfaces to other computer algebra systems. The feature that Harald was referring to is that x is a predefined global variable. You know this by doing sage: globals()['x'] x So now we know what the Sage function reset does. del, on the other hand, is a Python builtin function. Googling del python gives that del can also be used to delete entire variables. So del x deletes the global variable from globals(): sage: del x sage: globals()['x'] --- KeyError Traceback (most recent call last) /home/ghitza/ipython console in module() KeyError: 'x' But if you reset again, x is back: sage: reset sage: globals()['x'] x And everything is behaving exactly as the docstrings indicate. Alex Thank you very much for your help! I found that this explanation also holds for the global variable _! Reagrds BB -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org
[sage-support] allocation in a list?
sage: x=[a=5, a+=5, a-=3, a*=5, a/=8] File ipython console, line 1 x=[a=Integer(5), a+=Integer(5), a-=Integer(3), a*=Integer(5), a/=Integer(8)] ^ SyntaxError: invalid syntax sage: x=[1,2+5,3] sage: x [1, 7, 3] sage: x=[a=1,2+5,3] File ipython console, line 1 x=[a=Integer(1),Integer(2)+Integer(5),Integer(3)] ^ SyntaxError: invalid syntax sage: x=[a=5, b+=5, c-=3, d*=5, e/=8] File ipython console, line 1 x=[a=Integer(5), b+=Integer(5), c-=Integer(3), d*=Integer(5), e/=Integer(8)] ^ SyntaxError: invalid syntax sage: Obviously is it in Sage not possible to calculate list elements with an allocation?? Reagrds BB -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org
Re: [sage-support] allocation in a list?
bb schrieb: sage: x=[a=5, a+=5, a-=3, a*=5, a/=8] File ipython console, line 1 x=[a=Integer(5), a+=Integer(5), a-=Integer(3), a*=Integer(5), a/=Integer(8)] ^ SyntaxError: invalid syntax sage: x=[1,2+5,3] sage: x [1, 7, 3] sage: x=[a=1,2+5,3] File ipython console, line 1 x=[a=Integer(1),Integer(2)+Integer(5),Integer(3)] ^ SyntaxError: invalid syntax sage: x=[a=5, b+=5, c-=3, d*=5, e/=8] File ipython console, line 1 x=[a=Integer(5), b+=Integer(5), c-=Integer(3), d*=Integer(5), e/=Integer(8)] ^ SyntaxError: invalid syntax sage: Obviously is it in Sage not possible to calculate list elements with an allocation?? Reagrds BB To prevent some questions: I initiated b,c,d,e in the above example, but did not copy that! In Octave (MATLAB) that works ok: octave:1 x=[a=5,a+=5] x = 5 10 octave:2 Maxima does not know that shostcut-operators at all. SciLab cannot handle this either. --x=[a=5,a+=5] !--error 4 Undefinierte Variable: a That seems to be a hereditary defect coming from python: IDLE 2.6.4 x=[a=5, a+= 5] SyntaxError: invalid syntax a=5 a+=5 a 10 I think there is nothing possible to change that? -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org
[sage-support] power function with runtime error
sage: 2^3^4^5 --- RuntimeError Traceback (most recent call last) /home/bb/sage-4.3.5/ipython console in module() /home/bb/sage-4.3.5/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages/sage/rings/integer.so in sage.rings.integer.Integer.__pow__ (sage/rings/integer.c:12114)() RuntimeError: exponent must be at most 9223372036854775807 sage: float(2^3^4^5) --- RuntimeError Traceback (most recent call last) /home/bb/sage-4.3.5/ipython console in module() /home/bb/sage-4.3.5/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages/sage/rings/integer.so in sage.rings.integer.Integer.__pow__ (sage/rings/integer.c:12114)() RuntimeError: exponent must be at most 9223372036854775807 sage: long(2^3^4^5) --- RuntimeError Traceback (most recent call last) /home/bb/sage-4.3.5/ipython console in module() /home/bb/sage-4.3.5/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages/sage/rings/integer.so in sage.rings.integer.Integer.__pow__ (sage/rings/integer.c:12114)() RuntimeError: exponent must be at most 9223372036854775807 sage: I get a runtime error, but just would expect infinity! Is there something wrong or any explanation? This works: sage: 2^3^4^2 and results in a huge number! Tnx Regards BB -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org
Re: [sage-support] power function with runtime error
bb schrieb: sage: 2^3^4^5 --- RuntimeError Traceback (most recent call last) /home/bb/sage-4.3.5/ipython console in module() /home/bb/sage-4.3.5/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages/sage/rings/integer.so in sage.rings.integer.Integer.__pow__ (sage/rings/integer.c:12114)() RuntimeError: exponent must be at most 9223372036854775807 sage: float(2^3^4^5) --- RuntimeError Traceback (most recent call last) /home/bb/sage-4.3.5/ipython console in module() /home/bb/sage-4.3.5/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages/sage/rings/integer.so in sage.rings.integer.Integer.__pow__ (sage/rings/integer.c:12114)() RuntimeError: exponent must be at most 9223372036854775807 sage: long(2^3^4^5) --- RuntimeError Traceback (most recent call last) /home/bb/sage-4.3.5/ipython console in module() /home/bb/sage-4.3.5/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages/sage/rings/integer.so in sage.rings.integer.Integer.__pow__ (sage/rings/integer.c:12114)() RuntimeError: exponent must be at most 9223372036854775807 sage: I get a runtime error, but just would expect infinity! Is there something wrong or any explanation? This works: sage: 2^3^4^2 and results in a huge number! Tnx Regards BB With another input Sage can do the job. sage: ((2^3)^4)^5 1152921504606846976 sage: The same with maxima! maxima crashes without parenteses. I did some experiments with different systems with the statement with FreeMat: -- 2^3^4^5 ans = 0 -- I wonder about the last result? I would expect infinity or such a thing. It works this way: -- ((2^3)^4)^5 ans = 1152921504606846976 -- Something strange happens with this: -- 2^3^4 ans = 2,4179e+24 -- 2^3^4^3 ans = 0 -- 2^3^4^2 ans = inf -- One might calculate with another calculator, that 2^3^4 should give 4096. In Octave I get the following: octave3.2:15 2^3^4^5 ans = 1.1529e+18 octave3.2:16 Maxima crashes and ends the program unexpected with an error message. Maxima as well can handle it in this expression: (%i1) ((2^3)^4)^5 ; (%o1) 1152921504606846976 (%i2) Regards BB The exponent will be set high by the Mail-Program! -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org
Re: [sage-support] Installation Guide - german translation
bb schrieb: Minh Nguyen schrieb: Hi Bernhard, I have converted your ODT document to Sphinx. You can view the patch at ticket #8660 [1]. My knowledge of the German language is non-existent so someone apart from me needs to review that patch. In the meantime, you can browse the German version of the Installation Guide here [2]. [1] http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/8660 [2] http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/mvngu/8660-installation-de/ In chapter Einführungś the line polybori: Stellt High-level-Datentypen für boolsche Polynomiale und Monomiale, Expotentialvektoren sowie für die zugrunde liegenden polynomiale Ringe und Untermengen der Potentialmenge der boolschen Variablen should read as polybori: Stellt High-Level-Datentypen für boolsche Polynome und Monome, Expotentialvektoren sowie für die zugrunde liegenden polynomialen Ringe und Untermengen der Potentialmenge der boolschen Variablen zur Verfügung. I sent that from another machine and another place, but obvoiusly that did not arrive? So I try it again. Regards BB Sorry, I found aTypo: polybori: Stellt High-Level-Datentypen für boolsche Polynome und Monome, Exponentialvektoren sowie für die zugrunde liegenden polynomialen Ringe und Untermengen der Potentialmenge der boolschen Variablen zur Verfügung. -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org
Re: [sage-support] Re: Installation Guide - german translation
Simon King schrieb: Hi Bernhard, On Apr 18, 1:57 pm, bb bblo...@arcor.de wrote: Sorry, I found aTypo: polybori: Stellt High-Level-Datentypen für boolsche Polynome und Monome, Exponentialvektoren sowie für die zugrunde liegenden polynomialen Ringe und Untermengen der Potentialmenge der boolschen Variablen zur Verfügung. There are still far too many wrong notions (beyond typos). See the comments that I made on the ticket yesterday. For example, it is Polynomringe, not polynomiale Ringe; Exponentenvektoren, not Exponentialvektoren; and Potenzmenge, not Potentialmenge. Exponential and Exponent are two different notions. See http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exponential versus http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exponent resp. http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potenz_(Mathematik) And Potenz and Potential are even more different. See http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potenzmenge versus http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potential Cheers, Simon I know that there are many people working on that document and there are lots of changes on the way. I did not get your changes. I mostly agree with the changes, that I have got so far. I thank you for improving the text. In the original posting from 05.04.2010 19:24 I found the remark: I think the weakest part of translation is the list of software provided with sage with the headline Hier ist eine Liste einiger Software, die in Sage enthalten ist: (Here is a list of some of the software included with Sage: in the original text) because I do not know most of the software listed. It would be a good idea to find someone familiar with the software packages to proof that. May be the original translator had not so much fun with this boring list. But let me add that many (naturally not all!) of the changes are a matter of personal taste. For instance if you have alook at www.pro-linux.de/cgi-bin/DBApp/check.cgi?FeedbackNewDescr..15855.100 you will find polynomiale Ringe in a description of Singular. That is also true (just as an example for polynomiale Funktion (example: www.math.unibas.ch/~poloni/Algebra/AlgebraBlatt3.pdf) for Polynomfunktion or you even find Polynominalfunktion. The same is true for polynomiale Gleichung instead of Polynomgleichung (see: http://www.math.hu-berlin.de/~roczen/teaching/2007/PS_w07.html). You can continue with Polynomiale Approximation/Polynomapproximation And at least language is something with high plasticity. I did not and do not claim to have any mathematical knowledge in the field of Algebraor elsewhere. But you should notify, that not any error is really an error! And I do not claim that the document I delivered is free of errors - otherwise the reviewers would not have the triumph to reveal errors and loose any interest in the game. And at least I did not claim to deliver a professional translation. Good professional translations are really expensive! I would appreciate if others send their raw translations as well. It would be a rewarding task to translate http://www.sagemath.org/./links-components.html, as most of it is still translated in the german installation document. I do not do it, because I do not know most of the packages listet there. Tnx BB -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org
Re: [sage-support] Re: Installation Guide - german translation
Simon King schrieb: Hi Bernhard, On Apr 18, 4:29 pm, bb bblo...@arcor.de wrote: May be the original translator had not so much fun with this boring list. I agree it is boring, and I hope my patch is putting it right. But let me add that many (naturally not all!) of the changes are a matter of personal taste. ... And at least language is something with high plasticity. In the case of Polynomial- versus Polynomring, one might indeed argue with taste (although I believe that the former is not more than a common nasty Anglicism). But in the case of Exponent versus Exponential or Potenz versus Potential, there is no arguing because these are all different notions. And at least I did not claim to deliver a professional translation. Good professional translations are really expensive! That's true, and certainly your contribution deserves to be appreciated. But keep in mind that professional proof reading is not cheap either, and that we *both* spend time on it. BTW: First: I could not find the words exponent or exponential you mentioned above in my original german text? This is since the original text decorates the wrong notion with an additional typo, namely Expotential. Second: I find potenz just in the line sympow: Symmetrische L-Potenzfunktionen und modulare Ordnung where it is used correctly! This is because the other Potenz is missing: It should be Potenzmenge, not Potentialmenge. BTW, power set is basic set theory, not algebra, and also known to online dictionaries such as http://dict.leo.org/ (but please don't pick the translation Stromaggregat...). Cheers, Simon -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org
Re: [sage-support] Re: Installation Guide - german translation
Simon King schrieb: Hi Bernhard, On Apr 18, 4:29 pm, bb bblo...@arcor.de wrote: May be the original translator had not so much fun with this boring list. I agree it is boring, and I hope my patch is putting it right. But let me add that many (naturally not all!) of the changes are a matter of personal taste. ... And at least language is something with high plasticity. In the case of Polynomial- versus Polynomring, one might indeed argue with taste (although I believe that the former is not more than a common nasty Anglicism). But in the case of Exponent versus Exponential or Potenz versus Potential, there is no arguing because these are all different notions. And at least I did not claim to deliver a professional translation. Good professional translations are really expensive! That's true, and certainly your contribution deserves to be appreciated. But keep in mind that professional proof reading is not cheap either, and that we *both* spend time on it. BTW: First: I could not find the words exponent or exponential you mentioned above in my original german text? This is since the original text decorates the wrong notion with an additional typo, namely Expotential. Second: I find potenz just in the line sympow: Symmetrische L-Potenzfunktionen und modulare Ordnung where it is used correctly! This is because the other Potenz is missing: It should be Potenzmenge, not Potentialmenge. BTW, power set is basic set theory, not algebra, and also known to online dictionaries such as http://dict.leo.org/ (but please don't pick the translation Stromaggregat...). Cheers, Simon Thank you - I see, you are the better one to translate sage docus! You might have a look at http://www.sagemath.org/./links-components.html . I hope you understand, that I as a physicist I prefer Potentialvektoren over Potenzvektoren! I think quantum theory does not follow the math theorems of integers? Have a nice day! Cheers BB -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org
Re: [sage-support] A Tour of Sage german translation
Minh Nguyen schrieb:
Hi Bernhard,
2010/4/16 bb bblo...@arcor.de:
Attached please find my german translation of A Tour of Sage with some
minor changes.
Again, allow me to thank you for your initiative in translating Sage
documentation to German and making that translation available to
everyone.
I hope that you find it useful and I hope that Minh Van Nguyen again lends a
helping hand to compile it and check it.
See ticket #8698 [1] for tracking this issue and a patch to the Sage
library. Someone who knows German is needed to review that ticket.
[1] http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/8698
Sorry to bother you again with that textlet.
I have just checked the given link in my browser set to UTF8 and found
the german Umlauts not displayed correctly. I also tried all the other
common encodings (and some uncommon as well). And may be I send
translations of the one or the other single chapters of other documents
as well - but for sure not the complete docu! As I hope that other
german speaking age users will post there translations, I think it is a
good idea to define a proved procedure with a defined chracter encoding
that will work safe and without additional work (at least for you).
I used the ReST-Source to translate the text and sent it as UTF8 as I
checked with the return mail I got by the support-mail-list. Obviously
there happens something distorting that text (by some copy processes).
The first translation with an ODF obviously worked seamless. I will
attach a ReST version of the text not in a text-version, but in an ODF
version. The reST markup should be preserved and I would kindly ask you
to transfer that text as you have done with the first Text (the
installation-text) - however you have done that. That should be much
more easy in the actual case, because you get the ReST markup delivered,
so you should have to copy/paste the whole text. (In the other version
you had to add the markup tediously .)
I can check the text display again after that and give you feedback.
===
Ein Rundgang durch Sage
===
Das ist ein Rundgang durch Sage, der sich eng an der âTour of Mathematicaâ
am Beginn des Mathematica-Buchs folgt.
Sage als Rechenr
Die Eingabezeile von Sage hat eine Eingabeaufforderung âsage:â. Sie müssen
also âsage;â nicht selbst eingeben. Wenn Sie das Sage in der
Notebook-Version (als Notizbuch) benutzen, dann geben Sie alle Eingaben in eine
Eingabezelle ein. Die Berechnung und Ausgabe des Wertes erfolgt nach der
Eingabe der Tasten shift+return (in deutsch: Umschalt- oder Hochstelltaste +
Eingabetaste).
::
sage: 3 + 5
8
Das Zirkumflex (oft als âDachâ bezeichnet) berechnet eine Potenz der Basis.
::
sage: 57.1 ^ 100
4.60904368661396e175
Die Invertierung der Matrix :math:`2 \times 2` in Sage:
::
sage: matrix([[1,2], [3,4]])^(-1)
[ -21]
[ 3/2 -1/2]
Hier integrieren wir eine einfache Funktion.
::
sage: x = var('x') # create a symbolic variable
sage: integrate(sqrt(x)*sqrt(1+x), x)
1/4*((x + 1)^(3/2)/x^(3/2) + sqrt(x + 1)/sqrt(x))/((x + 1)^2/x^2 - 2*(x +
1)/x + 1) + 1/8*log(sqrt(x + 1)/sqrt(x) - 1) - 1/8*log(sqrt(x + 1)/sqrt(x) + 1)
Damit ermittelt Sage eine quadratische Gleichung. Das doppelte
Gleichheitszeichen ``==`` ist in Sage das mathematische Gleichheitszeichen.(Das
Zeichen ``=`` bedeutet eine Wertzuweisung.)
::
sage: a = var('a')
sage: S = solve(x^2 + x == a, x); S
[x == -1/2*sqrt(4*a + 1) - 1/2, x == 1/2*sqrt(4*a + 1) - 1/2]
Das Ergebnis ist eine Liste von Lösungsgleichungen â hier zwei.
.. link
::
sage: S[0].rhs()
-1/2*sqrt(4*a + 1) - 1/2
sage: show(plot(sin(x) + sin(1.6*x), 0, 40))
.. image:: sin_plot.*
Rechnen mit Sage-Power
==
Zuerst erstellen wir eine Matrix :math:`500 \times 500` mit Zufallszahlen.
::
sage: m = random_matrix(RDF,500)
Sage benötigt einige Sekunden um die Eigenwerte der Matrix zu berechnen und zu
plotten.
.. link
::
sage: e = m.eigenvalues() #about 2 seconds
sage: w = [(i, abs(e[i])) for i in range(len(e))]
sage: show(points(w))
.. image:: eigen_plot.*
Der GNU Multiprecision Library (GMP) ist es zu verdanken, dass Sage sehr groÃe
Zahlen mit Millionen oder Milliarden von Stellen berechnen kann.
::
sage: factorial(100)
9332621544394415268169923885626670049071596826438162146859296389521753229915608941463976156518286253697920827223758251185210916864
sage: n = factorial(100) #about 2.5 seconds
Nachfolgend werden 100 Stellen von :math:`\pi` berechnet.
::
sage: N(pi, digits=100)
3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944592307816406286208998628034825342117068
Sage kann ein Polynom mit zwei Variablen faktorisieren.
::
sage: R.x,y = QQ[]
sage: F = factor(x^99 + y^99)
sage: F
(x + y) * (x^2
[sage-support] A Tour of Sage german translation
Attached please find my german translation of A Tour of Sage with some
minor changes.
I hope that you find it useful and I hope that Minh Van Nguyen again
lends a helping hand to compile it and check it.
Reagrds BB
===
Ein Rundgang durch Sage
===
(This work is a derivative work, a translation prepared by Bernhard Blöchl
from âA Tour of Sageâ
(http://www.sagemath.org/doc/a_tour_of_sage/index.html) © Copyright
2005--2010, The Sage Development Team, licensed under a Creative Commons
Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 License
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/)
Das ist ein Rundgang durch Sage, der sich eng an der âTour of Mathematicaâ
am Beginn des Mathematica-Buchs folgt.
Sage als Rechner
Die Eingabezeile von Sage hat eine Eingabeaufforderung âsage:â. Sie müssen
also âsage:â nicht selbst eingeben. Wenn Sie das Sage in der
Notebook-Version (als Notizbuch) benutzen, dann geben Sie alle Eingaben in eine
Eingabezelle ein. Die Berechnung und Ausgabe des Wertes erfolgt nach der
Eingabe der Tasten shift+return (Umschalt- oder Hochstelltaste + Eingabetaste).
::
sage: 3 + 5
8
Der Zirkumflex ``^``(oft umgangssprachlich âDachâ genannt,) berechnet eine
Potenz der gegebenen Basis.
::
sage: 57.1 ^ 100
4.60904368661396e175
Die Invertierung der Matrix :math:`2 \times 2` in Sage:
::
sage: matrix([[1,2], [3,4]])^(-1)
[ -21]
[ 3/2 -1/2]
Hier integrieren wir eine einfache Funktion.
::
sage: x = var('x') # create a symbolic variable
sage: integrate(sqrt(x)*sqrt(1+x), x)
1/4*((x + 1)^(3/2)/x^(3/2) + sqrt(x + 1)/sqrt(x))/((x + 1)^2/x^2 - 2*(x +
1)/x + 1) + 1/8*log(sqrt(x + 1)/sqrt(x) - 1) - 1/8*log(sqrt(x + 1)/sqrt(x) + 1)
Damit ermittelt Sage eine quadratische Gleichung. Das doppelte
Gleichheitszeichen ``==`` ist in Sage das mathematische Gleichheitszeichen.
(Das Zeichen ``=`` bedeutet eine Wertzuweisung.)
::
sage: a = var('a')
sage: S = solve(x^2 + x == a, x); S
[x == -1/2*sqrt(4*a + 1) - 1/2, x == 1/2*sqrt(4*a + 1) - 1/2]
Das Ergebnis ist eine Liste von Lösungsgleichungen â hier zwei.
.. link
::
sage: S[0].rhs()
-1/2*sqrt(4*a + 1) - 1/2
sage: show(plot(sin(x) + sin(1.6*x), 0, 40))
.. image:: sin_plot.*
Rechnen mit Sage-Power
==
Zuerst erstellen wir eine Matrix :math:`500 \times 500` mit Zufallszahlen.
::
sage: m = random_matrix(RDF,500)
Sage benötigt einige Sekunden um die Eigenwerte der Matrix zu berechnen und zu
plotten.
.. link
::
sage: e = m.eigenvalues() #about 2 seconds
sage: w = [(i, abs(e[i])) for i in range(len(e))]
sage: show(points(w))
.. image:: eigen_plot.*
Der GNU Multiprecision Library (GMP) ist es zu verdanken, dass Sage sehr groÃe
Zahlen mit Millionen oder Milliarden von Stellen berechnen kann.
::
sage: factorial(100)
9332621544394415268169923885626670049071596826438162146859296389521753229915608941463976156518286253697920827223758251185210916864
sage: n = factorial(100) #about 2.5 seconds
Nachfolgend werden 100 Stellen von :math:`\pi` berechnet.
::
sage: N(pi, digits=100)
3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944592307816406286208998628034825342117068
Sage kann ein Polynom mit zwei Variablen faktorisieren.
::
sage: R.x,y = QQ[]
sage: F = factor(x^99 + y^99)
sage: F
(x + y) * (x^2 - x*y + y^2) * (x^6 - x^3*y^3 + y^6) *
(x^10 - x^9*y + x^8*y^2 - x^7*y^3 + x^6*y^4 - x^5*y^5 +
x^4*y^6 - x^3*y^7 + x^2*y^8 - x*y^9 + y^10) *
(x^20 + x^19*y - x^17*y^3 - x^16*y^4 + x^14*y^6 + x^13*y^7 -
x^11*y^9 - x^10*y^10 - x^9*y^11 + x^7*y^13 + x^6*y^14 -
x^4*y^16 - x^3*y^17 + x*y^19 + y^20) * (x^60 + x^57*y^3 -
x^51*y^9 - x^48*y^12 + x^42*y^18 + x^39*y^21 - x^33*y^27 -
x^30*y^30 - x^27*y^33 + x^21*y^39 + x^18*y^42 - x^12*y^48 -
x^9*y^51 + x^3*y^57 + y^60)
sage: F.expand()
x^99 + y^99
Sage benötigt weniger als 5 Sekunden um die Anzahl der möglichen Varianten
zur Partitionierung von :math:`10^8 = 100 Millionen` als Summe von positiven
ganzen Zahlen zu berechnen.
::
sage: z = Partitions(10^8).cardinality() #about 4.5 seconds
sage: str(z)[:40]
'1760517045946249141360373894679135204009'
Sage-Algorithmen benutzen
=
Immer wenn Sie Sage benutzen, nutzen Sie die weltgröÃte Sammlung von Open
Source Computeralgorithmen. (Open Source oder freie Software ist frei
verfügbare Software, deren Quelltext öffentlich zugänglich ist, beliebig
kopiert, verändert, verbreitet und genutzt werden darf, sofern der
weitergegeben Quelltext öffentlich verfügbar bleibt.)
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Re: [sage-support] A Tour of Sage german translation
bb schrieb: Attached please find my german translation of A Tour of Sage with some minor changes. I hope that you find it useful and I hope that Minh Van Nguyen again lends a helping hand to compile it and check it. Reagrds BB I found the german Umlaute are not presented correctly in Thunderbird. Ther might be a problem with ASCII/UTF8-encoding. I can send it in another format, if you have problems with that characters as well. Please give me feedback. -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org
Re: [sage-support] Re: Installation Guide - german translation
gsw schrieb: Andererseits baut eine Adresse wie die im mit Um Fehler des Documents zu melden oder für Anregungen ... beginnenden Absatz angegebene sagemath- at -arcor.de nicht gerade Vertrauen auf. Das soziale Netzwerk rund herum um das Sage-Projekt lebt davon, dass weitestgehende Offenheit herrscht. Fuer so eine mehr oder weniger private Adresse ist leider nicht klar, was mit den Mails geschieht. Ein Ausschlusskriterium an sich. Geschweige denn, dass auch Jahre spaeter in den Fragen und Antworten gestoebert werden koennte, von jedem, der sich dafuer interessiert. Und dass dort Fragen nur und allein zur deutschen Uebersetzung des Installationshandbuchs behandelt werden, das wird ein Hilfesuchender im Zweifelsfalle eben doch nicht glauben wollen! Some people first think and post then - and there are others. First, the good message: The adress you complained abot has been removed, that is not any problem for me. So I hope sage will handle errors and suggestions - I thik you are a good choice for making german translations without bloomers. Second, if people have a google-mail account and express their deep mistrust against anything outside the google world can't be serious! Please immediatly cut all cables of your computer to be secure! Go into the cellar and close all doors keep silent somebody might listen. In its 2007 Consultation Report, Privacy International ranked Google as Hostile to Privacy, its lowest rating on their report, making Google the only company in the list to receive that ranking. Since May 2007 Google saves data for two years, older data will be deleted after 30 years - may be. (... dass auch Jahre spaeter in den Fragen und Antworten gestoebert werden koennte ...) Is there something bad with mails conciously and willingly adressed to the user world? (You are not forced to mail to a unsympathetic adress.) Third, have you ever heard of web-Bugs? If you can read code, there is a button in the browser - I write it in German for you, so might find it: Ansicht-Seitenquelltext anzeigen. Do that for instance with the sagemath.com-Page. You will find some interesting lines: /style script src=http://www.google-analytics.com/urchin.js view-source:http://www.google-analytics.com/urchin.js type=text/javascript /script script type=text/javascript _uacct = UA-950416-6; urchinTracker(); /script If you are able to, please study urchin.js if you really think that not every keystroke you do will be registrated! Fourth, think first and post then. Reagards BB PS. Den gebratenen Storch und den Butterfisch würde ich empfehlen, an einem delikaten Ort unterzubringen, den ich hier nicht benennen werde! Sacklzement noamoi! -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org
Re: [sage-support] Re: Installation Guide - german translation
Martin Albrecht schrieb: I think there is a misunderstanding here. Georg wants a public mailing list in order for people to be able to read the e-mails, not in order to preserve privacy. On the contrary, he argued that the debate on the translation should be made as public as possible. Cheers, Martin PS: I think the tone of this debate is unjustified both by Georg and BB. Please consider reducing the heat. Ok, understand. Sorry. Let me add: A bavarian (if Georg is one, because some locutions come from the german north) knows that to handle! (In their own folklore bavarians were carved out of a wooden block, not made of clay as the other sissies.) A broad discussion is a good thing, but do you really think that every of the thousands of only english reading/speaking list members is really interested in such a very narrow problem like a german translation? And don't forget that there only will be discussed very boring about grammar, terms and something like style and bloomers etc. I don't like the idea of a german list for scientific/technical topics. But I like the idea to separate that described translation specific things from that scientific/technical list. I will refrain from any unjustified tone in future debates. Regards BB -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org
[sage-support] ReST raw format
Is it possible to get the raw format of the documentation texts? Just now one may get 1st a copy from the text presentet in the browser window 2nd a copy of the HTML-source The copied text of the browser window is easy to edut and modify i. e. for a translation, but obviously is the transfer to ReST very time consuming. To my knowlege (I do not use ReST) the ReST text will be compiled from a normal text file? One might modify such a text file very easily for instance in OpenOffice or some other editor else and the compilation to ReST schould be very easy and painless. Regards BB -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: [sage-support] ReST raw format
David Joyner schrieb: On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 8:08 AM, bb bblo...@arcor.de wrote: Is it possible to get the raw format of the documentation texts? Just now one may get 1st a copy from the text presentet in the browser window 2nd a copy of the HTML-source I don't know if I understand your question but if you want the ReST files for the Sage Tutorial (for example) then I think what you want is in the devel/sage/doc/en/tutorial subdirectory. The copied text of the browser window is easy to edut and modify i. e. for a translation, but obviously is the transfer to ReST very time consuming. To my knowlege (I do not use ReST) the ReST text will be compiled from a normal text file? One might modify such a text file very easily for instance in The documentation build process is described http://www.sagemath.org/doc/developer/sage_manuals.html#building-the-manuals Does that help? OpenOffice or some other editor else and the compilation to ReST schould be very easy and painless. Regards BB -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject. I did not check all directories before. Sorry! Tnx - I found it! -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org
Re: [sage-support] strange n()
Mike Hansen schrieb: On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 3:37 AM, bb bblo...@arcor.de wrote: sage: n(sqrt(2.), digits=40) 1.414213562373095145474621858738828450441 sage: n(sqrt(2), digits=40) 1.414213562373095048801688724209698078570 sage: If you wanted this to be more like Maxima, the appropriate thing to do would some something like: sage: RealNumber = RealField(137) sage: sqrt(2.0) 1.414213562373095048801688724209698078570 sage: sqrt(2).n(digits=40) 1.414213562373095048801688724209698078570 Sage is missing the errror forwarding of Mathematica. Yes, Sage does not have a numerical type that does Mathematica's significance arithmetic. An interesting thread about the merits and demerits of significance arithmetic is http://sci.tech-archive.net/Archive/sci.math.symbolic/2008-03/msg00014.html . One could do a little work to get Sage's interval arithmetic to do something similar. --Mike Tnx for helping. I did some more experimentation. I dont want to bother you, but if you have some time and some pation I would be thankfull for one more explanation. Your tip works as expected, but if I use the method n() I still get 53 bit of significant bits??? (see last expression of the snippet.) I argue, that the parameter of n() is set elsewhere in another Variable than RealNumber? sage: RealNumber = RealField(137) sage: sqrt(2.) 1.414213562373095048801688724209698078570 sage: _.prec() 137 sage: sqrt(2.000) 1.414213562373095048801688724209698078570 sage: _.prec() 137 sage: n(sqrt(2.000), digits=60) 1.41421356237309504880168872420969807856967336610324780267484 sage: _.prec() 203 sage: n(sqrt(2.000)) 1.41421356237310 sage: _.prec() 53 sage: Regards BB -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: [sage-support] strange n()
Mike Hansen schrieb: On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 10:01 AM, bb bblo...@arcor.de wrote: Tnx for helping. I did some more experimentation. I dont want to bother you, but if you have some time and some pation I would be thankfull for one more explanation. Your tip works as expected, but if I use the method n() I still get 53 bit of significant bits??? (see last expression of the snippet.) I argue, that the parameter of n() is set elsewhere in another Variable than RealNumber? Yes, in the code for n, we have the following: if prec is None: if digits is None: prec = 53 else: prec = int((digits+1) * 3.32192) + 1 so it just defaults to 53 if nothing is passed in. The RealNumber = RealField(137) just changes the precision for floating point literals entered on the command line. --Mike Tnx for clearing that n()-question! In an earlier posting (I am always thankful for any help!) you wrote: One could do a little work to get Sage's interval arithmetic to do something similar. Would be an interesting experiment. I found an internet page about that topic concerning MPFR from 2/5/2006: http://www.ma.utexas.edu/users/kschalm/mpfr-in-sage.html (MPFR seems to be very broadly used by different Progs under GNU Lesser GPL. Added is a list of related software.) There are used some Sage-examples with a strange line-numbering with underscores? May be that is an outdated Sage-Version? Actual versions do not do any line numbering. I did not find any evidence that MPFR or MAPM is included in Sage? I do not understand if MPFR is compiled with Sage in this examples on that page? I cannot find any evidence that MPFR is loaded? In an extension of the floating point issue I am actually interested in: I found a list of libs to support floating point arithmetics that are not in the list of included libs to Sage. I found some examples to include tools with a CLI via http in the documentatin. I did not find hints how to include C/C++ or other language libs to Sage? (To clear that statement: The fact I could not find it does not mean it is not documented in some place!) Again - please ignore my boring question if you feel bothered - I can understand that! With yor response you opened a door for floting point questions. Tnx anyway - regards BB -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
[sage-support] strange n()
Just experimenting with Sage syntax I found something strange: sage: n(pi) 3.14159265358979 sage: n(pi,20) 3.1416 sage: n(pi,29) 3.1415927 sage: n(pi,59) 3.1415926535897932 sage: n(pi,0x59) 3.1415926535897932384626434 sage: pi.n(digits=17) 3.1415926535897932 sage: Is there any explanation? Regards BB -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: [sage-support] strange n()
Mike Hansen schrieb: On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 1:02 AM, bb bblo...@arcor.de wrote: Is there any explanation? Could you be more specific in your question? Everything there looks normal to me. n(pi, 20) means to compute using 20 bits of precision. --Mike Ok, I see - the argument defines the number of bits and not of digits! In any other CAS (I know) that parameter describes the number of digits displayed. I. e . Maxima: (%i2) fpprec: 40; (%o2) 40 (%i3) bfloat(sqrt(2.)); (%o3) 1.41421356237309504880168872420969807857b0 (%i4) bfloat(sqrt(2)); (%o4) 1.41421356237309504880168872420969807857b0 (%i4) That are 40 digits (with decimal point) Mathematica: N[sqrt[2], 40] 1.41421356237309504880168872420969807857 delivers 40 decimal places including the decimal point. N[sqrt[2.], 40] 1.414213562373095 (that is because Mathematica assumes a 18 bit machine precision in the number 2.0 and cuts off questionable digits of precision) Sage works a bit different from the main stream with the definition of the number of digits. So one should not wonder about my misinterpretation! But thanks for helping! Now I understand the difference: sage: n(sqrt(2.), digits=40) 1.414213562373095145474621858738828450441 sage: n(sqrt(2), digits=40) 1.414213562373095048801688724209698078570 sage: Sage is missing the errror forwarding of Mathematica. sage: n(sqrt(2.000), digits=40) 1.414213562373095145474621858738828450441 sage: n(sqrt(2.000), digits=40) 1.414213562373095048804445654500039353252 sage: n(sqrt(2.000), digits=40) 1.414213562373095048801688724209698078570 sage: n(sqrt(2.000), digits=41) 1.4142135623730950488016887242096980785697 sage: So one has an assortet collection and a rich choice of different numbers. Where I find the calculation philosophie of maxima not too bad! Regards BB -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
[sage-support] Arrangements().list() nice format
In deviation from the example given in the Sage Reference v4.3.5 » Combinatorics » http://www.sagemath.org/doc/reference/sage/combinat/permutation.html I get the elements in one line instead of one below the other. sage: set=['adam', 'eva', 'otto', 'emil'] sage: Arrangements(set,4).list() [['adam', 'eva', 'otto', 'emil'], ['adam', 'eva', 'emil', 'otto'], ['adam', 'otto', 'eva', 'emil'], ['adam', 'otto', 'emil', 'eva'], ['adam', 'emil', 'eva', 'otto'], ['adam', 'emil', 'otto', 'eva'], ['eva', 'adam', 'otto', 'emil'], ['eva', 'adam', 'emil', 'otto'], ['eva', 'otto', 'adam', 'emil'], ['eva', 'otto', 'emil', 'adam'], ['eva', 'emil', 'adam', 'otto'], ['eva', 'emil', 'otto', 'adam'], ['otto', 'adam', 'eva', 'emil'], ['otto', 'adam', 'emil', 'eva'], ['otto', 'eva', 'adam', 'emil'], ['otto', 'eva', 'emil', 'adam'], ['otto', 'emil', 'adam', 'eva'], ['otto', 'emil', 'eva', 'adam'], ['emil', 'adam', 'eva', 'otto'], ['emil', 'adam', 'otto', 'eva'], ['emil', 'eva', 'adam', 'otto'], ['emil', 'eva', 'otto', 'adam'], ['emil', 'otto', 'adam', 'eva'], ['emil', 'otto', 'eva', 'adam']] sage: How can I get such a nicer list as in the reference? Regards and Tnx BB -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
[sage-support] errrors in the prime function complex?
I am a simple minded user and have some questions concerning Sage functions. May be I misunderstand the docu at http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/mhansen/sage-epydoc/sage.rings.arith-module.html#primes? Here an excerpt: eratosthenes(n) Return a list of the primes $\leq n$. prange(start, stop=['4ti2-20061025', 'R-2.6.0', 'atlas-3.7.37', 'atlas-3.8.1', 'a..., leave_pari=False) List of all primes between start and stop-1, inclusive. primes(start, stop=['4ti2-20061025', 'R-2.6.0', 'atlas-3.7.37', 'atlas-3.8.1', 'a...) Returns an iterator over all primes between start and stop-1, inclusive. prime_range(start, stop=['4ti2-20061025', 'R-2.6.0', 'atlas-3.7.37', 'atlas-3.8.1', 'a..., leave_pari=False) List of all primes between start and stop-1, inclusive. I tried all of these functions and found only erasthotenes() and prime_range() really working. prange() and primes() gives some strange output: sage: prange(1,100) --- NameError Traceback (most recent call last) /home/bb/sage-4.3.3-linux-64bit-arch_linux-x86_64-Linux/ipython console in module() NameError: name 'prange' is not defined sage: primes(1,100) generator object primes at 0x4e576e0 sage: I also did some syntactic variations without success. I argue that prange() and primerange should be identic, but there is a link or an alias missing? I tried that on a 64 bit AMD machine self compiled: -- | Sage Version 4.3.3, Release Date: 2010-02-21 | | Type notebook() for the GUI, and license() for information.| -- Regards BB -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
[sage-support] List of standard functions?
I screened all of the offered documents from the sgaemath-page to find a list of the offered standard-functions - no success! May be there is a table or list about that but I just could not find it? Screening the index is one possibility, but does not make me really happy. Tnx BB -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
[sage-support] solve - algebraic solution?
Why does Sage not solve the equation? (The quadratic equation is just a
test.)
sage: x,y,a,b = var('x, y, a, b')
sage: solve([x - 2*y == a, x + 3*y == b],[x,y]);
sage: solve([x^2 + a*x + b == 0],x)
[x == -1/2*a - 1/2*sqrt(a^2 - 4*b), x == -1/2*a + 1/2*sqrt(a^2 - 4*b)]
sage: solve([x - 2*y - a == 0, x + 3*y -b == 0],[x,y]);
sage: solve([x - 2*y - a == 0, x + 3*y -b == 0],x,y);
sage:
Maxima delivers the solution:
2 b + 3 aa - b
(%o2) [[x = -, y = - -]]
5 5
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Re: [sage-support] solve - algebraic solution?
William Stein schrieb:
On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 10:11 AM, bb bblo...@arcor.de wrote:
Why does Sage not solve the equation? (The quadratic equation is just a
test.)
sage: x,y,a,b = var('x, y, a, b')
sage: solve([x - 2*y == a, x + 3*y == b],[x,y]);
sage: solve([x^2 + a*x + b == 0],x)
[x == -1/2*a - 1/2*sqrt(a^2 - 4*b), x == -1/2*a + 1/2*sqrt(a^2 - 4*b)]
sage: solve([x - 2*y - a == 0, x + 3*y -b == 0],[x,y]);
sage: solve([x - 2*y - a == 0, x + 3*y -b == 0],x,y);
sage:
Semicolons surpress printing:
sage: solve([x - 2*y - a == 0, x + 3*y - b == 0],[x,y])
[[x == 3/5*a + 2/5*b, y == -1/5*a + 1/5*b]]
sage: 2+2;
sage: 2+2
4
Maxima delivers the solution:
2 b + 3 aa - b
(%o2) [[x = -, y = - -]]
5 5
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Tnx, I forgot! Sorry!
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[sage-support] Installation Guide - german translation
I have done a german translation of the Installation guide. I did some and changes to meet some german peculiarities and some minor extensions. I actually commited the text to a professional translator for checking and proofreading. It will be (hopefully) finished about the weekend of the next week. Concerning to the license Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 I kindly ask you if you have some interest to publish that text to the public in any proper way? I have the text in .odt (OpenOffice.org - not such easy to read because the Sage-code and teh rest of the text is not marked-off in the Sphinx-way of the original text on the Sage-page) or any other format OpenOffice will offer. There is an easy to read .pdf format with proper Sage code separation, comparable to the Sphinx-format. I might compile a postscript version as well. I never worked with Sphinx, so I cannot deliver in Sphinx-format. May be you have a secretary or a student for to copy/paste if you desire a Sphinx-version? If you indicate interest, please tell me where to send it (e-mail attachement) and in which format. Regards BB -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: [sage-support] install sage to USB or flash card (Re: sage on slitaz linux?)
emil schrieb: On Mar 20, 10:52 pm, Alec Mihailovs alec.mihail...@gmail.com wrote: On Mar 19, 4:51 am, bb bblo...@arcor.de wrote: I tried to compile sage from source on slitaz, a very small and ultrafast starting linux and slitaz might be installed to a bootable USB. No success. You could just use Sage live CD (bootable). If it boots from a CD, it would boot from USB as well, I guess. It is rather small, contains Sage 4.3.1 on Puppy Linux, and is available from http://mira.sunsite.utk.edu/sagemath/livecd/index.html as well on other mirrors. Alec Mihailovs Hi, To get the Sage Lice CD installed on USB should be easy. Start the Live CD. Then Go to the MenuSetupPuppy Universal Installer There are plenty of install options. Choose USB hard drive or USB flash drive. The following menus should be straightforward, try to stick with the install options. I tested it and post this message from the live CD installed to a flash drive. Advantage is that it runs considerable faster than the LIVE CD and it is easy to carry it around. Emil PS: There is also MenuSetupBootFlash Install Puppy to USB. This wizard is more advanced and will also format your stick. If you want to keep your data use the universal installer mentioned above Tnx. I will try Sage live on USB for my new machines. But on road I use a 20 years old laptop that wont start from USB. Why? No one ever tried to steal it! Regards BB -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: [sage-support] Re: install sage to USB or flash card (Re: sage on slitaz linux?)
emil schrieb: On Mar 22, 10:44 am, bb bblo...@arcor.de wrote: emil schrieb: On Mar 20, 10:52 pm, Alec Mihailovs alec.mihail...@gmail.com wrote: On Mar 19, 4:51 am, bb bblo...@arcor.de wrote: I tried to compile sage from source on slitaz, a very small and ultrafast starting linux and slitaz might be installed to a bootable USB. No success. You could just use Sage live CD (bootable). If it boots from a CD, it would boot from USB as well, I guess. It is rather small, contains Sage 4.3.1 on Puppy Linux, and is available from http://mira.sunsite.utk.edu/sagemath/livecd/index.html as well on other mirrors. Alec Mihailovs Hi, To get the Sage Lice CD installed on USB should be easy. Start the Live CD. Then Go to the MenuSetupPuppy Universal Installer There are plenty of install options. Choose USB hard drive or USB flash drive. The following menus should be straightforward, try to stick with the install options. I tested it and post this message from the live CD installed to a flash drive. Advantage is that it runs considerable faster than the LIVE CD and it is easy to carry it around. Emil PS: There is also MenuSetupBootFlash Install Puppy to USB. This wizard is more advanced and will also format your stick. If you want to keep your data use the universal installer mentioned above Tnx. I will try Sage live on USB for my new machines. But on road I use a 20 years old laptop that wont start from USB. Why? No one ever tried to steal it! Regards BB Hi BB, there are still possibilites for your ancient laptop. Generally the base distro for the live CD was designed to run on old hardware. If you have 700 MB free on your HD you can try a frugal install. This will not conflict with any existing OS on your laptop. If your primary OS is Linux you can use GRUB (comes with the Live CD: MenuSystemGRUB Bootloader config) to boot the Live CD. I don't know how to do this with old windows or dos versions, but on XP you can use the program Unetbootin to make a frugal install into a windows partition (tested). There is also the possibility to have a boot floppy (google for puppy linux wakepup). This floppy can boot puppy linux from a device which is not bootable otherways (e.g your USB), so it should also work for the Sage live CD. About saving your work: In theorie it should be possible to save your work on the USB in a pupsave file. This file is created after your first boot. Basically it contains all modifications to the directory structure, especially the folder /root. So if you have a frugal install of the live CD on your old laptop, but no pupsave file on the hard disk and the laptop can find the pupsave file on your USB during booting, you can still access your directories and work on your Sage USB/Flash stick. Hope it works for you, and I hope I can finalize my next release of the live CD (including Texmacs). Emil I know puppy as a valuable linux distro from some former experiments a couple of month ago (and years ago with compact flash). (The page http://www.puppylinux.com/hard-puppy.htm of Barry Kauler helped me at that time in understanding - I think it is still a good source of information.) A good idea to use it - I will switch my antique laptop completely to your Sage puppy by a full installation. (May be a frugal install is easier to upgrade?) And TeX support is an important feature! BTW Lyx is a comfortable way for writing scientific and illustrated texts (GUI with a slight touch of Scientific Word/Scientific Notebook from MacKichan Software, but thanks to GPL for 0$!). Lyx allows to compile to postscript and pdf, and by extra tools to convert the .lyx document to TeX, LateX, and even to HTML. Tnx for Sage puppy and help - BB -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: [sage-support] installation problem
Carlo Hamalainen schrieb: On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 7:18 AM, bb bblo...@arcor.de wrote: The text lines I sent were the last lines of config.log. And what's the output of gcc -v and g++ -v ? Cheers, Beside the usual list of options I get gcc -version 4.2.3 for both. On my 64-bit machines (where I installed sage successful) gcc version 4.3.2 and 4.4.1 is installed. Does anybody know if sage 4.3.3 compiles with an obviously old gcc version 4.2.3? Regards -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: [sage-support] Re: 'make' of 4.3.3 on a 64-bit machine fails due to different assembly language/ABI(?)
rvaug...@gmail.com schrieb: Thanks, Mike. $ gcc --version gcc (GCC) 4.1.2 20080704 (Red Hat 4.1.2-46) Is there a 64-bit version of the SAGE 4.3.3 source? -Richard On Mar 19, 2:39 pm, Mike Hansen mhan...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 11:15 AM, rvaug...@gmail.com rvaug...@gmail.com wrote: But on a machine running 64-bit Scientific Linux 5.4, the make failed. ... Is this in fact the case? Will SAGE-4.3.3 not make successfully on a 64-bit machine due to different assembly language/different ABI? Anyone having success running SAGE 4.3.3 on a 64-bit OS? Yes, Sage builds and runs on lots of 64-bit OS's. The main machines where the tests are run are 64-bit boxes. What version of gcc are you using? --Mike Obviously you got no response to your question so far. There is a 64-bit version: sage-4.3.3-linux-64bit-arch_linux-x86_64-Linux.tar.lzma on the sage download page http://www.sagemath.org/./download-linux.html. I compiled that version on my 64-bit AMD machines with different linux brands. -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
[sage-support] sage on slitaz linux?
I tried to compile sage from source on slitaz, a very small and ultrafast starting linux and slitaz might be installed to a bootable USB. No success. The line from the makefile will be echoed: cd spkg ./install all 21 | tee -a ../install.log the cd to directory spkg is performed sucessfully and then a message appears: env: bash: No such file or directory The the process will finish. Is there any skilled linux user that can interpret this and lend a helping hand? Tnx BB PS. I tried to install sage in another small linux: tinyCore on USB and had some other problems. To keep things separated I will report in another posting after some analyses of the messages and some more experiments. -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: [sage-support] sage on slitaz linux?
Robert Bradshaw schrieb: On Mar 19, 2010, at 1:51 AM, bb wrote: I tried to compile sage from source on slitaz, a very small and ultrafast starting linux and slitaz might be installed to a bootable USB. No success. The line from the makefile will be echoed: cd spkg ./install all 21 | tee -a ../install.log the cd to directory spkg is performed sucessfully and then a message appears: env: bash: No such file or directory The the process will finish. Is there any skilled linux user that can interpret this and lend a helping hand? It says bash isn't installed--looks like you need to do that first. Must be a really tiny linux if it doesn't even come with bash. - Robert Thanks for all who helped. Indeed bash was not installed. Just to tell the continuation of the story: prereq-0.7 is missing - I have to install it next. Tnx BB -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: [sage-support] one more copyright issue question
David Joyner schrieb: On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 5:53 PM, bb bblo...@arcor.de wrote: If I try to write a math-tutorial ... Sage code and its documentation are licensed under open-source licenses, so feel free to copy+paste. In fact, it is encouraged. Just please license your documentation under the same open source license. Further license information: * Documentation: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/ * Sage code: Type license() at the Sage command line. Thank you for your answer, to my regret the copy paste option and creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/ does not help. The simple reason is it would not enjoy readers of a german text to find an english installation manual. creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/ is compatible with Debian Free Software Guidelines (DFSG), it is allowed to Remix — to adapt the work. The problem is, that a translation is not just a remix but an act of creative originality and therefore with an own copyright. So I (and may be others) need a (written) permission to translate the installation manual. Better for sage to spread the world would be a general allowance to translate the installation manual. I am only speaking of the installation manual! Because, as I pointed out in another mail, such a description of installation steps do have a degree of (creative) freedom close to zero! Regards BB -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: [sage-support] Re: Seeking Cython-101 lesson
kstueve schrieb: I really really need help with patches, packages, and building Sage too. I do not know what you mean with the supplement 101? And a 101 lession and cython-101 lesson I do not know and the net does not know. By some scroogling (www.scroogle.org) you might find http://docs.cython.org/src/userguide/tutorial.html That is the most extended cython-text I found so far. May be that can meet your needs? Regards BB -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: [sage-support] one more copyright issue question
David Joyner schrieb: On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 12:20 PM, bb bblo...@arcor.de wrote: David Joyner schrieb: On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 5:53 PM, bb bblo...@arcor.de wrote: If I try to write a math-tutorial ... Sage code and its documentation are licensed under open-source licenses, so feel free to copy+paste. In fact, it is encouraged. Just please license your documentation under the same open source license. Further license information: * Documentation: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/ * Sage code: Type license() at the Sage command line. Thank you for your answer, to my regret the copy paste option and creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/ does not help. The simple reason is it would not enjoy readers of a german text to find an english installation manual. creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/ is compatible with Debian Free Software Guidelines (DFSG), it is allowed to Remix — to adapt the work. I do not agree. Can you show me exactly where in http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/legalcode it prevents you from translating the work? (See section 3. License Grant.) The problem is, that a translation is not just a remix but an act of creative originality and therefore with an own copyright. So I (and may be Let us assume this is true. Secondly, you are allowed to add creative content! (Read the license.) You must relicense your work under the same license. others) need a (written) permission to translate the installation manual. Better for sage to spread the world would be a general allowance to translate the installation manual. I am only speaking of the installation manual! Because, as I pointed out in another mail, such a description of installation steps do have a degree of (creative) freedom close to zero! Regards BB -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject. You are right! I found the relevant passage concerning translations to other languages : *3. License Grant.* Subject to the terms and conditions of this License, Licensor hereby grants You a worldwide, royalty-free, non-exclusive, perpetual (for the duration of the applicable copyright) license to exercise the rights in the Work as stated below: a. ... b. to create and Reproduce Adaptations provided that any such Adaptation, including any translation in any medium, takes reasonable steps to clearly label, demarcate or otherwise identify that changes were made to the original Work. For example, a translation could be marked The original work was translated from English to Spanish, or a modification could indicate The original work has been modified.; In a first browsing my attention just was focused on any translation in any medium, translation to another language is just in the next sentence. So I think I have understood this topic and I do not see a problem for a translation or an adaption. Tnx for your kind and patient help! Regards BB -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
[sage-support] installation problem
As I mentioned in another posting I tried a simple install from source (on slitaz linux). 1. I got he message that prereq-0.7 is missing. prereq-0.7 and prereq-0.7-install.tar is present. On http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/8052 I found the remark that prereq-0.7-install.tar will be untared automatically - it is NOT! 2. I untared prereq-0.7-install.tar by hand and the next message is telling: base/prereq-0.7-install: cd: line 178: can't cd to prereq-0.7 base/prereq-0.7-install: line 180: ./configure: not found ERROR: You do not have all of the prerequisites needed Next I checked line 179 and line 180: tar mxvf ../base/$TARGET.tar cd $TARGET ./configure I wonder about the tar options mxvf ? On minimal systems (like slitaz or tinyCore linux) m is not provided! I would not say it is a bug, but it is a nuisance! 3. Next step: I removed the m-option in line 179. And as a result I get another error message: ... checking for gawk... no checking for mawk... no checking for nawk... no checking for awk... awk checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes checking build system type... i686-pc-linux-gnuoldld checking host system type... i686-pc-linux-gnuoldld checking for gcc... gcc checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: in `/home/tux/sage-4.3.3/spkg/build/prereq-0.7': configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables See `config.log' for more details. ERROR: You do not have all of the prerequisites needed to build Sage from source. See the errors above. make[1]: *** [installed/prereq-0.7] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/tux/sage-4.3.3/spkg' real0m2.338s user0m0.682s sys 0m0.457s Error building Sage. t...@slitaz:~/sage-4.3.3$ Does Sage really need all that awk versions?? (That are not the source of the problem.) Just as a guess there might be someting wrong with the gcc version? -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: [sage-support] Re: 'make' of 4.3.3 on a 64-bit machine fails due to different assembly language/ABI(?)
rvaug...@gmail.com schrieb: Thanks, Mike. $ gcc --version gcc (GCC) 4.1.2 20080704 (Red Hat 4.1.2-46) Is there a 64-bit version of the SAGE 4.3.3 source? -Richard On Mar 19, 2:39 pm, Mike Hansen mhan...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 11:15 AM, rvaug...@gmail.com rvaug...@gmail.com wrote: But on a machine running 64-bit Scientific Linux 5.4, the make failed. ... Is this in fact the case? Will SAGE-4.3.3 not make successfully on a 64-bit machine due to different assembly language/different ABI? Anyone having success running SAGE 4.3.3 on a 64-bit OS? Yes, Sage builds and runs on lots of 64-bit OS's. The main machines where the tests are run are 64-bit boxes. What version of gcc are you using? --Mike I compiled real 64-bit versions of sage on 64-bit ubuntu und 64-bit debian/lenny from source absolutely seamless, but had problems with the simple version. (i think that is the version you are askin for?) So, I can confirm that I really installed sage successful on a couple onm 64-bit OS from source. (I did not try any binaries!) In one of my last postings I described some strange results on small machines with the simple 32-bit-sage-version-4.3.3 - may be that is also true for compiling simple 4.3.3 on 64-bit machines? Leave the solution to the skilled experts and use 64-bit source code! Regards BB -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: [sage-support] installation problem
Carlo Hamalainen schrieb: On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 6:23 AM, bb bblo...@arcor.de wrote: checking for gcc... gcc checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: in `/home/tux/sage-4.3.3/spkg/build/prereq-0.7': configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables See `config.log' for more details. Your gcc compiler is somehow broken. What is the output of gcc -v and g++ -v and what is at the end of config.log? Does Sage really need all that awk versions?? (That are not the source of the problem.) The configure script found one version of awk and proceeded happily with that and then got stuck on gcc. Also even on big Linux distributions like Ubuntu you need to install extra packages to compile Sage (like build-essential, m4, etc). Cheers, The text lines I sent were the last lines of config.log. Regards BB -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
[sage-support] copyright issue
I could not find any clear statement to the copyright or license oft he sage logo(s)? There is 1. the pentagon-dodekaeder-like-logo ( I know it is'nt) and 2. the sage-lettering. Regards BB -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
[sage-support] one more copyright issue question
If I try to write a math-tutorial (or some equivalent introductory text) for college/high school students about SAGE basics, I sooner or later arrive at a point to describe the basic of SAGE, say installation and the use of the different modes (CLI or notebook ... etc.). The handling of that topics are fixed by the implementation and the predefined mode of SAGE implementation as well, so I see some problem of plagiarism and of creative writing in the sense of intellectual originality. I never would claim that as my original work! But installation and UI is a necessary step to use SAGE, (thankfully) predetermined by the creators (or part of the features of implemantation or the underlying language). I never would just copy and paste complete passages of a manual, but such a description of fundamental concepts (installation and UI) do have a degree of (creative) freedom close to zero! My question: What is the proper way to describe such (necessary) basic, predefined sage-components without breaking copyright and giving proper credit? For sure any doc/tutorial etc. must give reference to SAGE home on different places of the SAGE document, so my request is just to avoid trouble and to hear your attitude regarding this point. Regards BB -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: [sage-support] Re: Pi and I in SAGE For Newbies by Ted Kosan
John Cremona schrieb: Perhaps even more important is to note that that guide was written 3 years ago, and (as far as I know) has not been updated since, so it probably gives examples based on an even earlier version of Sage than 3.0.5. John Cremona On Mar 14, 4:19 pm, Harald Schilly harald.schi...@gmail.com wrote: On Mar 14, 4:28 pm, b b bblo...@arcor.de wrote: In my SAGE Version 3.0.5... I don't know about your original problem but you really really really should not use 3.0.5 because it is older than old. Please uninstall the sagemath package and download the current binary release for ubuntu 32 or 64bit from sagemath.org and follow the installation instructions. h Installed Sage Version 4.3.3, Release Date: 2010-02-21 from source - needed some time. Pi and E still end up with an error. I does not, Infinit and True and False are ok as well. I can live with this. I thougt the author collects such oddities for the next, corrected version :-) Regards BB -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org
Re: [sage-support] Re: Pi and I in SAGE For Newbies by Ted Kosan
Erik Lane schrieb: Installed Sage Version 4.3.3, Release Date: 2010-02-21 from source - needed some time. Pi and E still end up with an error. I does not, Infinit and True and False are ok as well. Did you try them lower case? Pi and E show up as errors, but pi and e do not, at least for me. That exactly was the trigger of my posting, because some Sage tutorials/handbooks etc. claim that Pi/pi or E/e are valid alternatives. As you proved, they are not. Regards -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org
[sage-support] Re: sage and linux powerpc
- Bin Zhang [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
Bin Zhang wrote:
mabshoff wrote:
On Jun 25, 1:09 pm, Bin Zhang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
Hi Bin,
I want to know what is the status of support for Linux powerpc.
It usually works, due to access to fast hardware (I also have a G4
iBook) I rarely build it. But any problem should be reported and
fixed.
Linux powerpc is not mentioned in sage-3.0.3/README.txt, but with
the
help
ofhttp://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel/browse_frm/thread/2f8044191...
(libgfortran.so problem with ATLAS), I have compiled sage on my
ibook
G4 1.2 GHz (debian powerpc unstable). It is very, very long to
compile
ATLAS.
I added some tuning info for ATLAS for my 1.3GHz G4, but it looks
like
the one you have is not properly identified. Could you post the
output
of cat /proc/cpuinfo - that way I can likely fix the problem
with
the long ATLAS compile.
$ cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor: 0
cpu: 7447A, altivec supported
clock: 1199.999000MHz
revision: 0.1 (pvr 8003 0101)
bogomips: 73.47
timebase: 18432000
platform: PowerMac
machine: PowerBook6,5
motherboard: PowerBook6,5 MacRISC3 Power Macintosh
detected as: 287 (iBook G4)
pmac flags: 001b
L2 cache: 512K unified
pmac-generation: NewWorld
In my install.log:
---
make[2]: Leaving directory
`/Archives/build/sage/sage-3.0.3/spkg/build/atlas-3.8
.1.p1/ATLAS-build'
OS configured as Linux (1)
Assembly configured as GAS_PPC (4)
Bad VECFLAG value=0, ierr=0, ln2='VECFLAG=0
'
Vector ISA Extension configured as (0,0)
Bad MACHTYPE value=0, ierr=0, ln2='MACHTYPE=0
'
Architecture configured as UNKNOWN (0)
Bad CPU MHZ value=0, ierr=0, ln2='CPU MHZ=0
'
Clock rate configured as 0Mhz
CPU Throttling apparently enabled!
--
Maybe I advanced a little in this problem. I found that your patch
ATLAS-3.8.1-ppc-g4-7447-detect-fix.patch is not applied in sage. After applying
this patch, it can detect architecture PPCG4. Here are the result with
atlas-3.8.1.p2 in 3.0.4.alpha1:
---
OS configured as Linux (1)
Assembly configured as GAS_PPC (4)
Bad VECFLAG value=0, ierr=0, ln2='VECFLAG=0
'
Vector ISA Extension configured as (0,0)
Architecture configured as PPCG4 (4)
Bad CPU MHZ value=0, ierr=0, ln2='CPU MHZ=0
'
Clock rate configured as 0Mhz
---
and
-
real62m10.407s
user47m47.740s
sys 4m38.025s
Successfully installed atlas-3.8.1.p2
---
For comparison (atlas-3.8.1p1 in sage-3.0.3) I need long time:
-
real450m35.791s
user371m58.504s
sys 16m33.417s
Successfully installed atlas-3.8.1.p1
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Thanks
Bin
Thanks,
Bin
Thanks,
Bin
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real878m43.587s
user726m51.514s
sys 47m16.318s
To install gap, gp, singular, etc., scripts
in a standard bin directory, start sage and
type something like
sage: install_scripts('/usr/local/bin')
at the SAGE command prompt.
SAGE build/upgrade complete!
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Thanks,
Bin
Cheers,
Michael
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