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Hello All I'm new here. I bought my Sam Coupe 2. months ago. It was in very poor conditions - no ram chips, broken MC1377P chip and keyboard connectors, and without power supply. Now is almost ready - only that keyboard ;). It cost me about 2.5 US$ in my local currency. Now I'm looking for schematics of ram expansion board best regards Rob. -- -WIRTUALNY SERWER DEDYKOWANY- Bezkompromisowo najlepsza oferta dla Twojej firmy! http://www.virtual.alpha.pl
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In a message dated 03/09/98 21:54:09 BST, David Ledbury wrote: But Phil, a clock DOES exist for SAM! In fact there's several! If you (or anyone else) would like more info - ring Malcolm on 0161 797 0651. My apologies, David. I seem to have been confused by stories of clocks from a Gloucester-based company... No longer being a subscriber to the publication of this company I am out of touch with their vast range of SAM hardware and software.
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On Mon, 31 Aug 1998 17:02:51 -0700, you or David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gavin Smith wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All I pointed out, and it is something that you cannot deny, is that if just a few of the people on this list had provided Nev with even a little bit of help the HDOS would be a lot better than it is. Oh joy, Mr Get-along-with-everyone is back. Okay, if you want to start a damn stupid arguement, just what the hell did you do to help HDOS? What exactly did you code? For all he's willing to admit... he could have done all of it! (Not that I'm accusing you Nev, honest ;) IIRC R brenchley helped with some of the assembler bits. I, regretfully, have to admit to doing the rest. I did nearly all of it while I was *unemployed* that is not earning a wage. Once I had a job then Sam and hdos had to take a back seat. Now my sams have not just taken a back seat but are all in bits and spread all round the attic. One day I may have one that works again. nev - who wishes folk would just let hdos rest in peace.
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On Mon, 31 Aug 1998 12:38:00 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: All I pointed out, and it is something that you cannot deny, is that if just a few of the people on this list had provided Nev with even a little bit of help the HDOS would be a lot better than it is. The archives are there (up to June 1998); perhaps you can point to a message in which Nev asked for some help with HDOS. Fine, if you don't want to use a hard drive like a /real/ hard drive. It may require calls, but at least HDOS takes the right approach. Arguable. Apologies to Nev if I'm wrong, but doesn't HDOS do directories the MasterDOS way? That is, actually all the files on the disk are in a flat structure with a number to indicate which directory they are supposed to be in. So to find a file in a directory you actually have to search every single file on the disk to see whether it's in that directory. At least if you have records it stands some chance of being efficient. imc
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've just become very smug as I've built a SAM-specific workstation, on the far side of the room so it can glare at my PC. SAM, printer and stereo monitor are all connected up once again, linked to my trusty Amstrad NC100 Notepad. I even switched SAM on last Sunday, and the clock was still accurate after months and months of being stuck in a cupboard. (This is the Sambus clock, when a clock actually existed for SAM) Phil Glover But Phil, a clock DOES exist for SAM! In fact there's several! If you (or anyone else) would like more info - ring Malcolm on 0161 797 0651. David
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On Thu, 3 Sep 1998 16:32:02 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 03/09/98 00:03:09 BST, you write: (As in Nev!) Now my sams have not just taken a back seat but are all in bits and spread all round the attic. What a dreadful confession! What cruelty! Is this just cause for being struck from the list, excommunicated or suchlike?! And hopefully tied down on the bed and whipped with soft feathers by several naked women. Oh Sorry, wrong group :-) -- Nev - no longer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and getting no spam at all (yet) Webpage under construction at www,nfy53,demon,co,uk also hiding on ICQ
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Fine, if you don't want to use a hard drive like a /real/ hard drive. It may require calls, but at least HDOS takes the right approach. The right approach is to write an entirely new DOS, and hang backwards compability. Unfortunately, that's not really the *practical* approach. Paul -- MicroSoft Windows - where do you want to crash today? FidoNet: 2:254/211.44 2:442/103.13 ---http://www.craybbs.co.uk/foti---
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Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Onderwerp: Re: I'm new here. Datum: Tuesday, September 01, 1998 7:47 | Fine, if you don't want to use a hard drive like a /real/ hard drive. | Yawn! It is hard work isn't it, to type one command. My point exactly, typing a few calls could hardly be considered difficult, and at least with HDOS you have full use of the drive. No, you could redefine some of your function keys for that, but the lack of certain commands make HDos a very difficult operating system (And I mean a copy command here for example, or do I still have a older version of the HDos). Okay, BDOS may be good in other respects, but you have to agree that it is still not the ideal hard dos. I look forward to the day that we have a fully working Hard DOS. Just one answer possible here. Why don't you start coding your own Dos? -- Robert van der Veeke, aka RJV Graphics [EMAIL PROTECTED] Currently listening to : Roruni Keshin - Best themes Collection
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HDOS is good, but could be better, and because of the lack of co-operation from people on this list there seems little hope of any advance in the near future. Development on HDOS ceased due to Nev's hard disc going for a burton, if what the big guy told me is true[1] and has absolutely nothing to do with the non co-operation of this list. There is BDOS, which seems from what I've heard, to be good is some respects but fails because it does not allow you to use the hard drive as one space. I'll try and add something useful to this comment: BDOS is a modified SAMDOS by Edwin Blink and is designed to operate with single floppy and/or the ATOM hard disc system. BDOS stores 800k disc images as records on the disc and then accesses them as a virtual second disc drive. It uses standard extended BASIC syntax e.g. RECORD 1 to select records, READ WRITE LOAD SAVE etc.. HDOS is a truer disc operating system, but has a few nasty bugs and due to a large chunk of the source being lost[1], further development could be a little bit tricky. HDOS uses CALL statements for disc operations which IIRC are similar to CALL base+16,program You may download BDOS from NVG, or http://www.podboy.demon.co.uk/coupe/edwin/ [2] Dan. Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Shirk: [EMAIL PROTECTED] VVeb: http://www.podboy.demon.co.uk/ [1] Nev, this is what I understand from our conversation at the last Gloucester show - please let me know if I have the wrong end of the stick. [2] And before anybody asks I have no vested interest in BDOS, I'm just hosting it for Edwin cos I'm top geezer with lots of webspace :-)
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| [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | | There is BDOS, which seems from what I've heard, to be good is some | | respects | | but fails because it does not allow you to use the hard drive as one | | space. | | | | But what it loses in that, it gains in the fact that it uses existing | | commands instead of CALL's. | | Fine, if you don't want to use a hard drive like a /real/ hard drive. | Yawn! It is hard work isn't it, to type one command. My point exactly, typing a few calls could hardly be considered difficult, and at least with HDOS you have full use of the drive. Okay, BDOS may be good in other respects, but you have to agree that it is still not the ideal hard dos. I look forward to the day that we have a fully working Hard DOS. -- Samsboss - The One And Only. Accept No Others. ___ To sign up for a free email account, visit http://www.postmaster.co.uk.
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Robert van der Veeke wrote: Van: Simon Cooke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Onderwerp: Re: I'm new here. Datum: Sunday, August 30, 1998 5:44 There is BDOS, which seems from what I've heard, to be good is some respects but fails because it does not allow you to use the hard drive as one space. But what it loses in that, it gains in the fact that it uses existing commands instead of CALL's. Yes, nice and easy commands. Records act just as well as directories... and let's face it - doesn't MS-DOS really internally treat subdirectories and contents as one big file anyway IIR? I suppose you could go to the hassle of defining sub proceedures to replace the calls in HDOS but who could be arsed loading them up all the time? And that is what makes Bdos better as Hdos, Easy to use (only a few new tricks to learn). And in combination with the ATOM it is just worth every penny (except you don't pay a single penny). I suppose SB would mention about the lack of MasterBasic compatibility... but I've stopped using that ages ago due to the bugs littering it! And the fact that it uses RECORDS does not bother the people who are using it to much or am i wrong? Its a bit strange first but you get used to it. Oo! It's so hard to use! I mean, one extra keyword to remember! Oh, how hard! (Sarcasm intentional!) But seriously, it's no hassle to use. Martijn's modifications on Outwrite 2 turn it into a wordprocessor worth using finally! -- Robert van der Veeke, aka RJV Graphics [EMAIL PROTECTED] David (Atom owner! And proud of it!)
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| Oh come on do you still think that anyone on this list believes this crap | that you are spewing. And as usual you are again trying to mislead people | by spreading incorrect information about various software and hardware that | is for sale or being developed. ? | | Not to mention that FREEWARE has the same effect on you as sunlight has on | a vampire. ?? -- Samsboss - The One And Only. Accept No Others. ___ To sign up for a free email account, visit http://www.postmaster.co.uk.
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| | Is there any operating system that supports hard disk? | | HDOS is good, but could be better, and because of the lack of | co-operation | from | people on this list there seems little hope of any advance in the near | future. | | Sorry, SAMSBOSS, but it's not OUR problem. We're not paid to write YOUR | software, remember? All I pointed out, and it is something that you cannot deny, is that if just a few of the people on this list had provided Nev with even a little bit of help the HDOS would be a lot better than it is. | | There is BDOS, which seems from what I've heard, to be good is some | respects | but fails because it does not allow you to use the hard drive as one | space. | | But what it loses in that, it gains in the fact that it uses existing | commands instead of CALL's. Fine, if you don't want to use a hard drive like a /real/ hard drive. It may require calls, but at least HDOS takes the right approach. | -- Samsboss - The One And Only. Accept No Others. ___ To sign up for a free email account, visit http://www.postmaster.co.uk.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All I pointed out, and it is something that you cannot deny, is that if just a few of the people on this list had provided Nev with even a little bit of help the HDOS would be a lot better than it is. Oh joy, Mr Get-along-with-everyone is back. Okay, if you want to start a damn stupid arguement, just what the hell did you do to help HDOS? What exactly did you code? Gavin
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | There is BDOS, which seems from what I've heard, to be good is some | respects | but fails because it does not allow you to use the hard drive as one | space. | | But what it loses in that, it gains in the fact that it uses existing | commands instead of CALL's. Fine, if you don't want to use a hard drive like a /real/ hard drive. Yawn! It is hard work isn't it, to type one command.
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Gavin Smith wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All I pointed out, and it is something that you cannot deny, is that if just a few of the people on this list had provided Nev with even a little bit of help the HDOS would be a lot better than it is. Oh joy, Mr Get-along-with-everyone is back. Okay, if you want to start a damn stupid arguement, just what the hell did you do to help HDOS? What exactly did you code? Gavin For all he's willing to admit... he could have done all of it! (Not that I'm accusing you Nev, honest ;)
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Hello! I am SAM user since 1991. I'm now not up to date about SAM. I want to ask some questions. How many SAM users have hard disk (except me)? Is there any operating system that supports hard disk? I saw SAMDOS, MasterDOS and PRODOS. Are there more of them? I want spread my programs (they are CP/M comptibile system and ZX Spectrum emulator with ZXVGS) as Shareware. Where to send them? How many active SAM users are in Poland? Yarek.
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| Hello! | | I am SAM user since 1991. I'm now not up to date about SAM. I | want to ask some questions. | | How many SAM users have hard disk (except me)? Quite a few, SD's system has sold well. | | Is there any operating system that supports hard disk? HDOS is good, but could be better, and because of the lack of co-operation from people on this list there seems little hope of any advance in the near future. There is BDOS, which seems from what I've heard, to be good is some respects but fails because it does not allow you to use the hard drive as one space. | | I saw SAMDOS, MasterDOS and PRODOS. Are there more of them? | | I want spread my programs (they are CP/M comptibile system and | ZX Spectrum emulator with ZXVGS) as Shareware. Where to send | them? I'm not sure if SAM-PD are still going, does anyone else know? | | How many active SAM users are in Poland? Not the faintest idea. | | Yarek. -- Samsboss - The One And Only. Accept No Others. ___ To sign up for a free email account, visit http://www.postmaster.co.uk.
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Van: Jarek Adamski [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Onderwerp: I'm new here. Datum: Saturday, August 29, 1998 9:49 I want spread my programs (they are CP/M comptibile system and ZX Spectrum emulator with ZXVGS) as Shareware. Where to send them? ftp://ftp.nvg.ntnu.no/pub/sam-coupe is a good place to spread software, otherwise you could try one of the Sam Diskmagazines that are still around. Read the README at the nvg, very important. yes -- Robert van der Veeke, aka RJV Graphics [EMAIL PROTECTED] Currently listening to : Roruni Keshin - Best themes Collection
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Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Onderwerp: Re: I'm new here. Datum: Sunday, August 30, 1998 2:22 HDOS is good, but could be better, and because of the lack of co-operation from people on this list there seems little hope of any advance in the near future. There is BDOS, which seems from what I've heard, to be good is some respects but fails because it does not allow you to use the hard drive as one space. It is always the fault of the those pesky kids. Those Demo-coders with their overinflated ego's that have no better thing to do than write stupid scrollie-demo's. Oh come on do you still think that anyone on this list believes this crap that you are spewing. And as usual you are again trying to mislead people by spreading incorrect information about various software and hardware that is for sale or being developed. Not to mention that FREEWARE has the same effect on you as sunlight has on a vampire. -- Robert van der Veeke, aka RJV Graphics [EMAIL PROTECTED] Currently listening to : Roruni Keshin - Best themes Collection
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| Is there any operating system that supports hard disk? HDOS is good, but could be better, and because of the lack of co-operation from people on this list there seems little hope of any advance in the near future. Sorry, SAMSBOSS, but it's not OUR problem. We're not paid to write YOUR software, remember? There is BDOS, which seems from what I've heard, to be good is some respects but fails because it does not allow you to use the hard drive as one space. But what it loses in that, it gains in the fact that it uses existing commands instead of CALL's. Simon __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
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I saw SAMDOS, MasterDOS and PRODOS. Are there more of them? BDos, can be used with or without a Atom-interface and Harddisk and is freeware. QDOS doesn't support the hard-disk, but it cleans up your system and reports system status when you boot it. Handy if you need to switch from MasterDOS to SAMDOS for any reason. MaxiDOS+ is only on a few disks out there, and it has a custom boot block which loads a screen from tracks 80-83, and fades it in and out on booting. Press a key, and then it loads the DOS. MaxiDOS is on even fewer disks; it displays a message on the screen, defined by the user, waits for a key, and then loads the DOS. Simon __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
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Van: Simon Cooke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Onderwerp: Re: I'm new here. Datum: Sunday, August 30, 1998 5:44 There is BDOS, which seems from what I've heard, to be good is some respects but fails because it does not allow you to use the hard drive as one space. But what it loses in that, it gains in the fact that it uses existing commands instead of CALL's. And that is what makes Bdos better as Hdos, Easy to use (only a few new tricks to learn). And in combination with the ATOM it is just worth every penny (except you don't pay a single penny). And the fact that it uses RECORDS does not bother the people who are using it to much or am i wrong? Its a bit strange first but you get used to it. -- Robert van der Veeke, aka RJV Graphics [EMAIL PROTECTED] Currently listening to : Roruni Keshin - Best themes Collection
