Re: [scifinoir2] Old News: Braga Talks "Star Trek"
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Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Old News: Braga Talks "Star Trek"
Date : Thu, 2 Apr 2009 15:03:44 -0400
From : "Rouge"
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I have to admit I was upset with the ending of Enterprise. I feel that if they
were going to kill the show, which they did, they should have let it ended with
a regular episode and let our imagination just do. The idea of killing Trip was
just plan wrong. To me the show was becoming better. I feel that if UPN did not
want it anymore then I am sure Sci-Fi network could have used it. Besides, it
is not like Ghost Hunters are really finding much lately and any of the other
shows they air on Saturdays and Sundays would really be missed.
--Lavender
From: Keith Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 7:34 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [scifinoir2] Old News: Braga Talks "Star Trek"
Found this interview while taking a break and idling around. It's an interview
with Braga about Trek from 2007. What I find interesting is his comments about
the last ep of "Enterprise" being an admitted failure. The comment that it
"pissed off the cast" is interesting too. And while I always like shows that
have the nerve to upset the status quo, the odd fascination to kill off
Trip--and then handle it so badly--just puzzles me...
*
"I do have some regrets about that final episode [of "Enterprise"]. What we
were trying to do was send a valentine to all the Star Trek showsbut it was
languid. I don’t know if it fully delivered and it really pissed off the cast."
--Brannon Braga
VegasCon 07 - Braga Reflects On A Life With Trek
August 12, 2007
by Anthony Pascale
Brannon Braga was one of the few Trek writer/producers to appear at this year’s
Creation Las Vegas Star Trek Convention. Braga started off almost reticent,
telling the crowd "it has been many years and so I am a little nervous." The
veteran of Next Generation, Voyager and Enterprise made it clear that although
Trek was an ‘amazing experience’ which occupied most of his adult life, he was
not involved with Trek anymore and saw the con as a ‘nostalgic experience.’
After that, the Trek veteran’s appearance took on the nature of an exit
interview with Braga inviting the crowd to get it off their chests:
I wanted to stop by to say hi to you guys and to ask any last lingering
questions you had. This may be the last one I do so this is your chance to get
out you final gripes and questions.
Wouldn’t change a thing…well maybe some things
Braga’s time as a writer/producer with Trek goes all the way to 4th season of
Star Trek: The Next Generation and continued with 104 episode writing credits
(more than any other Trek writer) for TNG, Voyager and Enterprise. He also
co-wrote the first two TNG feature films (Generations and First Contact) along
with Ron Moore. During his tenure there were certainly highs such as the finale
of TNG ("All Good Things") and First Contact, as well as lows (who can forget
Voyager’s Janeway and Paris evolve into lizard creatures episode "Threshold").
Braga was asked if he had any regrets and if he had a chance what would he do
differently. His reply..
I honestly have to say that creatively probably nothing. There are certain
episodes that are really stinky that I wish I hadn’t done, but how can I go
back and change that. There were also episodes that turned out great that we
thought were going to be terrible.
However, in subsequent questions the writer did seem to voice some regrets. For
example when talking about the controversial season finale of Enterprise
("These Are The Voyages"), Braga seems to dislike it as much as most of the
fans:
I do have some regrets about that final episode. It didn’t quite creatively
align with the rest of the season. ….The final episode was very controversial
and I do have some regrets about it. What we were trying to do was send a
valentine to all the Star Trek shows. Enterprise just happened to be the show
on at the time and it turns out the episode was a failure. It had some great
stuff init and it was a cool concept, but it was languid. I don’t know if it
fully delivered and it really pissed off the cast. It was a hybrid show. Rick
[Berman] and I were involved in the franchise for years (Rick for 18 - me for
15). We felt like we wanted to send a valentine to the show, but I do concur it
was not a complete success.
One controversial aspect of the finale however, Braga has no regrets for…
It was the final episode, we knew the series was over and we could do anything
we wanted. Trip was always my favorite character on the show and I wanted to….I
just wanted to kill him. I cant give you a coherent response. We wanted to do
something that had emotional impact and had consequences which is something we
were never allowed to do.
Braga also seems to agree with most fans regarding the direction Enterprise
went once h
Re: [RE][scifinoir2] "Highlander" Marathon on SciFi/SyFy
Yeah, same here. The early fights aren't that good either--even those with McLeod. But I cut them a break because the show was new and needed time to grow. And, back then, the kind of hyper realistic exciting martial arts work we're used to now wasn't that common. It was a little while yet before the men who trained Keanu and company for "The Matrix", Jet Li, and others took the stage. - Original Message - From: "Martin Baxter" To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2009 3:04:23 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] "Highlander" Marathon on SciFi/SyFy Keith, that's the only downside of this, the decision to air these weaker eps. I've still been in this since nine (busy catching up on news between 7 and then). The Watcher intoduction ep really came across as a lot cheesier than I initially remembered it (hadn't seen it since it first aired). Found myself looking away many a time. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] "Highlander" Marathon on SciFi/SyFy Date : Thu, 2 Apr 2009 18:22:29 + (UTC) >From : Keith Johnson To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Well, this is something good on SciFi. They're running an all-day marathon of the "Highlander" TV series. It started this morning and runs until after midnight EST. Unfortunately, since it's only one day, they're only going to get through season two, which is in my opinion the weakest overall season in the series. That's when they killed Tessa, and for a long time Duncan started doing good deeds and fighting petty problems like some kind of immortal "Renegade". After Tessa's death, for example, is an ep where Duncan fights a druglord in the 'hood, liberating all the scared black folk...one where he helps a black immortal who was a slave back in the day learn to get over his hatred of white people...and an ep where Sheena Easton guests stars as a terrorist immortal from Duncan's past. Easton tries to kill newly immortal Richie in the show, and the actors are so terribly bad with a sword it's laughable. Ugh! It was obvious the creators lost fo! cus for a while, as the pedestrian wandering hero angle overshadowing the mystical aspects of the Immortals. There's a couple of bright spots, such as the return of Amanda later tonight, but too bad they won't be showing anything after season two. Oh--they are airing the movie "Highlander: The Source" in the middle of the marathon tonight. Trust me: don't bother watching. It stinks. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds
Re: [scifinoir2] Black Age of Comics movement
Mike, copy and paste the site in your browser, but before u click it, delete all the spaces between the words, and at the end, take off the letter and the slash. Fate. --- On Thu, 4/2/09, Mike Street wrote: From: Mike Street Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Black Age of Comics movement To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, April 2, 2009, 2:16 PM I tried to subscribe but it says their yahoo group didn't exist. On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 1:50 PM, ravenadal wrote: > Forward from http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/blackscifi horrorfantasyclu b/: > > Has anyone here checked out the Black Age of Comics movement which deals > with graphic novels, comic books, games, & etc. that are created or derived > from the Black or African experience? It has an annual convention in > Philadelphia, , www.eccacc.com, the original one one in Chicago, > www.dablackage. blogspot. com, and one starting up in Atlanta htis summer > called ONYX CON. Plus one can search out The Museum of Black SUper Heroes as > well. > > I was hoping that this club could have some type of appreciative nexus with > those of us dealing with the Black Age Movment. And vice versa. > > Onli > www.onlistudios. com > > > -- The GreasyGuide to Job Hunting via Social Media Only .99 Cents http://www.Greasygu ide.com/greasy- guides My Social Media Resume: http://michaele- street-jr. emurse.com/ Visit my Blog: http://www.Greasygu ide.com Follow Me on Twitter: http://www.twitter. com/streetforce1
Re: [scifinoir2] Black Age of Comics movement
Mike, I used to be in that group. One day, about a year ago, it just went poof. No notice of shutdown whatsoever, and I couldn't re-up. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Black Age of Comics movement Date : Thu, 2 Apr 2009 14:16:10 -0400 From : Mike Street To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com I tried to subscribe but it says their yahoo group didn't exist. On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 1:50 PM, ravenadal wrote: > Forward from http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blackscifihorrorfantasyclub/: > > Has anyone here checked out the Black Age of Comics movement which deals > with graphic novels, comic books, games, & etc. that are created or > derived > from the Black or African experience? It has an annual convention in > Philadelphia,, www.eccacc.com, the original one one in Chicago, > www.dablackage.blogspot.com, and one starting up in Atlanta htis summer > called ONYX CON. Plus one can search out The Museum of Black SUper Heroes as > well. > > I was hoping that this club could have some type of appreciative nexus with > those of us dealing with the Black Age Movment. And vice versa. > > Onli > www.onlistudios.com > > > -- The GreasyGuide to Job Hunting via Social Media Only .99 Cents http://www.Greasyguide.com/greasy-guides My Social Media Resume: http://michaele-street-jr.emurse.com/ Visit my Blog: http://www.Greasyguide.com Follow Me on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/streetforce1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds
Re: [scifinoir2] Old News: Braga Talks "Star Trek"
I have to admit I was upset with the ending of Enterprise. I feel that if they
were going to kill the show, which they did, they should have let it ended with
a regular episode and let our imagination just do. The idea of killing Trip was
just plan wrong. To me the show was becoming better. I feel that if UPN did not
want it anymore then I am sure Sci-Fi network could have used it. Besides, it
is not like Ghost Hunters are really finding much lately and any of the other
shows they air on Saturdays and Sundays would really be missed.
--Lavender
From: Keith Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 7:34 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [scifinoir2] Old News: Braga Talks "Star Trek"
Found this interview while taking a break and idling around. It's an interview
with Braga about Trek from 2007. What I find interesting is his comments about
the last ep of "Enterprise" being an admitted failure. The comment that it
"pissed off the cast" is interesting too. And while I always like shows that
have the nerve to upset the status quo, the odd fascination to kill off
Trip--and then handle it so badly--just puzzles me...
*
"I do have some regrets about that final episode [of "Enterprise"]. What we
were trying to do was send a valentine to all the Star Trek showsbut it was
languid. I don’t know if it fully delivered and it really pissed off the cast."
--Brannon Braga
VegasCon 07 - Braga Reflects On A Life With Trek
August 12, 2007
by Anthony Pascale
Brannon Braga was one of the few Trek writer/producers to appear at this year’s
Creation Las Vegas Star Trek Convention. Braga started off almost reticent,
telling the crowd "it has been many years and so I am a little nervous." The
veteran of Next Generation, Voyager and Enterprise made it clear that although
Trek was an ‘amazing experience’ which occupied most of his adult life, he was
not involved with Trek anymore and saw the con as a ‘nostalgic experience.’
After that, the Trek veteran’s appearance took on the nature of an exit
interview with Braga inviting the crowd to get it off their chests:
I wanted to stop by to say hi to you guys and to ask any last lingering
questions you had. This may be the last one I do so this is your chance to get
out you final gripes and questions.
Wouldn’t change a thing…well maybe some things
Braga’s time as a writer/producer with Trek goes all the way to 4th season of
Star Trek: The Next Generation and continued with 104 episode writing credits
(more than any other Trek writer) for TNG, Voyager and Enterprise. He also
co-wrote the first two TNG feature films (Generations and First Contact) along
with Ron Moore. During his tenure there were certainly highs such as the finale
of TNG ("All Good Things") and First Contact, as well as lows (who can forget
Voyager’s Janeway and Paris evolve into lizard creatures episode "Threshold").
Braga was asked if he had any regrets and if he had a chance what would he do
differently. His reply..
I honestly have to say that creatively probably nothing. There are certain
episodes that are really stinky that I wish I hadn’t done, but how can I go
back and change that. There were also episodes that turned out great that we
thought were going to be terrible.
However, in subsequent questions the writer did seem to voice some regrets. For
example when talking about the controversial season finale of Enterprise
("These Are The Voyages"), Braga seems to dislike it as much as most of the
fans:
I do have some regrets about that final episode. It didn’t quite creatively
align with the rest of the season. ….The final episode was very controversial
and I do have some regrets about it. What we were trying to do was send a
valentine to all the Star Trek shows. Enterprise just happened to be the show
on at the time and it turns out the episode was a failure. It had some great
stuff init and it was a cool concept, but it was languid. I don’t know if it
fully delivered and it really pissed off the cast. It was a hybrid show. Rick
[Berman] and I were involved in the franchise for years (Rick for 18 - me for
15). We felt like we wanted to send a valentine to the show, but I do concur it
was not a complete success.
One controversial aspect of the finale however, Braga has no regrets for…
It was the final episode, we knew the series was over and we could do
anything we wanted. Trip was always my favorite character on the show and I
wanted to….I just wanted to kill him. I cant give you a coherent response. We
wanted to do something that had emotional impact and had consequences which is
something we were never allowed to do.
Braga also seems to agree with most fans regarding the direction Enterprise
went once he handed over the show running reigns to Manny Coto in the 4th and
final season, saying:
I thought Manny Coto did a great job. One could argue that Enterprise might
have been that from the
[RE][scifinoir2] "Highlander" Marathon on SciFi/SyFy
Keith, that's the only downside of this, the decision to air these weaker eps. I've still been in this since nine (busy catching up on news between 7 and then). The Watcher intoduction ep really came across as a lot cheesier than I initially remembered it (hadn't seen it since it first aired). Found myself looking away many a time. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] "Highlander" Marathon on SciFi/SyFy Date : Thu, 2 Apr 2009 18:22:29 + (UTC) From : Keith Johnson To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Well, this is something good on SciFi. They're running an all-day marathon of the "Highlander" TV series. It started this morning and runs until after midnight EST. Unfortunately, since it's only one day, they're only going to get through season two, which is in my opinion the weakest overall season in the series. That's when they killed Tessa, and for a long time Duncan started doing good deeds and fighting petty problems like some kind of immortal "Renegade". After Tessa's death, for example, is an ep where Duncan fights a druglord in the 'hood, liberating all the scared black folk...one where he helps a black immortal who was a slave back in the day learn to get over his hatred of white people...and an ep where Sheena Easton guests stars as a terrorist immortal from Duncan's past. Easton tries to kill newly immortal Richie in the show, and the actors are so terribly bad with a sword it's laughable. Ugh! It was obvious the creators lost focus for a while, as the pedes! trian wandering hero angle overshadowing the mystical aspects of the Immortals. There's a couple of bright spots, such as the return of Amanda later tonight, but too bad they won't be showing anything after season two. Oh--they are airing the movie "Highlander: The Source" in the middle of the marathon tonight. Trust me: don't bother watching. It stinks. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds
Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Queen Elizabeth Displays Rare Public Affection for Michelle Obama
I know! Now if they could just get Queenie to do the fist bump... - Original Message - From: "Adrianne Brennan" To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2009 2:10:11 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Queen Elizabeth Displays Rare Public Affection for Michelle Obama That's just awesome. :D :D ~ "Where love and magic meet" ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/botdm.html Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/bamc.html Dare to take The Oath in this fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Keith Johnson < keithbjohn...@comcast.net > wrote: Well! Old Queenie showed little emotion and showed Michelle some love! What a funny world when a handshake or arm put around another person is big news! The best I've ever seen though, was way back in the late '80s or early '90s when the Queen came to the US. She was meeting some regular folk-I want to say it was back in Dallas--and an older black woman grabbed Elizabeth and gave her a big hug! It was great: just like you'd expect from your aunt or grandma. Talk about a meeting of cultures. And I will say, it is reasons like this why it's important for people of color to be in positions of power. Not that the Obama's are nothing more than their skin--they're both accomplished and admirable way beyond that. But when was the last time a black ballet troupe in London was rolled out to entertain dignitaries? The Alvin Ailey group and Sweet Honey in the Rock have already performed at the White House for the Obamas, which is cool. What a great opportunity to showcase even more the culture and accomplishments of Africans wherever we may be. And funny, they say the press has lost interest in Carla Bruni--and Michelle Obama didn't even have to take her clothes off or cut an album to get attention! *** AP News LONDON — Michelle Obama has done what few others have managed — getting Queen Elizabeth II to break protocol. The first lady arrived Wednesday with President Barack Obama. After separate meetings on the eve of the G-20 summit, the couple attended an evening reception for world leaders hosted by the queen. Mrs. Obama clearly made an impression with the 82-year-old monarch — so much that the smiling queen strayed from protocol and put her arm around the first lady in a rare public show of affection. It was the first time Mrs. Obama — who is nearly a foot taller — had met the queen. The first lady also embraced her. A Buckingham Palace spokesman who asked not to be identified because of palace policy said he could not remember the last time that the queen had displayed such public affection with a first lady or dignitary. "It was a mutual and spontaneous display of affection," he said. "We don't issue instructions on not touching the queen." When the former Australian Prime Minister Paul Keating put his arm around the queen in 1992, the tabloids dubbed him the "Lizard of Oz." When his successor, John Howard, was accused of doing the same, a spokesman insisted: "We firmly deny that there was any contact whatsoever." In 2007, President Bush gave the queen a sly wink during a visit she paid to the United States. The Daily Mail said the "two women clearly took to each other." Wednesday's reception was followed by a dinner at Prime Minister Gordon Brown's Downing Street home, where the leaders' spouses were joined by notable British women, including "Harry Potter" author J.K. Rowling and Olympic gold medal runner Kelly Holmes. "Michelle walks in and she is as she seems," Holmes told reporters Thursday. "So warm, engaging, a beautiful, beautiful lady — and I quickly got my photo in the middle of her and Sarah Brown," the prime minister's wife. Mrs. Obama also seemed to win over the often feral British press. The last time a first lady made such a hit in Britain was last year with French President Nicolas Sarkozy's wife, the former fashion model wife and songwriter Carla Bruni. But on Thursday, London's Times newspaper wrote "Carla who?" The BBC described Mrs. Obama as her husband's co-star rather than supporting act — appropriate for a Harvard-educated lawyer. "She seems to be a good role model," said onlooker Rebecca Smith, who waited outside Buckingham Palace Wednesday to catch a glimpse of the Obamas. "A strong, intelligent woman, I think she'll go down very well here," Smith told the BBC. "Michelle Obama has a strong aura about her, a bit like Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis." Mrs. Obama attended a rehearsal at the Royal Opera House on Thursday with the other spouses and guests. The program included music by Handel and a dance performance by
[scifinoir2] "Highlander" Marathon on SciFi/SyFy
Well, this is something good on SciFi. They're running an all-day marathon of the "Highlander" TV series. It started this morning and runs until after midnight EST. Unfortunately, since it's only one day, they're only going to get through season two, which is in my opinion the weakest overall season in the series. That's when they killed Tessa, and for a long time Duncan started doing good deeds and fighting petty problems like some kind of immortal "Renegade". After Tessa's death, for example, is an ep where Duncan fights a druglord in the 'hood, liberating all the scared black folk...one where he helps a black immortal who was a slave back in the day learn to get over his hatred of white people...and an ep where Sheena Easton guests stars as a terrorist immortal from Duncan's past. Easton tries to kill newly immortal Richie in the show, and the actors are so terribly bad with a sword it's laughable. Ugh! It was obvious the creators lost focus for a while, as the pedestrian wandering hero angle overshadowing the mystical aspects of the Immortals. There's a couple of bright spots, such as the return of Amanda later tonight, but too bad they won't be showing anything after season two. Oh--they are airing the movie "Highlander: The Source" in the middle of the marathon tonight. Trust me: don't bother watching. It stinks.
Re: [scifinoir2] Black Age of Comics movement
I tried to subscribe but it says their yahoo group didn't exist. On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 1:50 PM, ravenadal wrote: > Forward from http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blackscifihorrorfantasyclub/: > > Has anyone here checked out the Black Age of Comics movement which deals > with graphic novels, comic books, games, & etc. that are created or derived > from the Black or African experience? It has an annual convention in > Philadelphia,, www.eccacc.com, the original one one in Chicago, > www.dablackage.blogspot.com, and one starting up in Atlanta htis summer > called ONYX CON. Plus one can search out The Museum of Black SUper Heroes as > well. > > I was hoping that this club could have some type of appreciative nexus with > those of us dealing with the Black Age Movment. And vice versa. > > Onli > www.onlistudios.com > > > -- The GreasyGuide to Job Hunting via Social Media Only .99 Cents http://www.Greasyguide.com/greasy-guides My Social Media Resume: http://michaele-street-jr.emurse.com/ Visit my Blog: http://www.Greasyguide.com Follow Me on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/streetforce1
Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Queen Elizabeth Displays Rare Public Affection for Michelle Obama
That's just awesome. :D :D ~ "Where love and magic meet" ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/botdm.html Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/bamc.html Dare to take The Oath in this fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Keith Johnson wrote: > Well! Old Queenie showed little emotion and showed Michelle some love! > What a funny world when a handshake or arm put around another person is big > news! The best I've ever seen though, was way back in the late '80s or > early '90s when the Queen came to the US. She was meeting some regular > folk-I want to say it was back in Dallas--and an older black woman grabbed > Elizabeth and gave her a big hug! It was great: just like you'd expect from > your aunt or grandma. Talk about a meeting of cultures. > > > > And I will say, it is reasons like this why it's important for people of > color to be in positions of power. Not that the Obama's are nothing more > than their skin--they're both accomplished and admirable way beyond that. > But when was the last time a black ballet troupe in London was rolled out to > entertain dignitaries? The Alvin Ailey group and Sweet Honey in the Rock > have already performed at the White House for the Obamas, which is cool. > What a great opportunity to showcase even more the culture and > accomplishments of Africans wherever we may be. > > > > And funny, they say the press has lost interest in Carla Bruni--and > Michelle Obama didn't even have to take her clothes off or cut an album to > get attention! > > > > *** > > > > AP News > > > > > > LONDON — Michelle Obama has done what few others have managed — getting > Queen Elizabeth II to break protocol. The first lady arrived Wednesday with > President Barack Obama. After separate meetings on the eve of the G-20 > summit, the couple attended an evening reception for world leaders hosted by > the queen. > > > > Mrs. Obama clearly made an impression with the 82-year-old monarch — so > much that the smiling queen strayed from protocol and put her arm around the > first lady in a rare public show of affection. > > It was the first time Mrs. Obama — who is nearly a foot taller — had met > the queen. The first lady also embraced her. > > > > A Buckingham Palace spokesman who asked not to be identified because of > palace policy said he could not remember the last time that the queen had > displayed such public affection with a first lady or dignitary. > > > > "It was a mutual and spontaneous display of affection," he said. "We don't > issue instructions on not touching the queen." > > > > When the former Australian Prime Minister Paul Keating put his arm around > the queen in 1992, the tabloids dubbed him the "Lizard of Oz." When his > successor, John Howard, was accused of doing the same, a spokesman insisted: > "We firmly deny that there was any contact whatsoever." In 2007, President > Bush gave the queen a sly wink during a visit she paid to the United States. > > > > The Daily Mail said the "two women clearly took to each other." > > > > Wednesday's reception was followed by a dinner at Prime Minister Gordon > Brown's Downing Street home, where the leaders' spouses were joined by > notable British women, including "Harry Potter" author J.K. Rowling and > Olympic gold medal runner Kelly Holmes. > > > > "Michelle walks in and she is as she seems," Holmes told reporters > Thursday. "So warm, engaging, a beautiful, beautiful lady — and I quickly > got my photo in the middle of her and Sarah Brown," the prime minister's > wife. > > Mrs. Obama also seemed to win over the often feral British press. > > > > The last time a first lady made such a hit in Britain was last year with > French President Nicolas Sarkozy's wife, the former fashion model wife and > songwriter Carla Bruni. But on Thursday, London's Times newspaper wrote > "Carla who?" > > > > The BBC described Mrs. Obama as her husband's co-star rather than > supporting act — appropriate for a Harvard-educated lawyer. > > > > "She seems to be a good role model," said onlooker Rebecca Smith, who > waited outside Buckingham Palace Wednesday to catch a glimpse of the Obamas. > > > > "A strong, intelligent woman, I think she'll go down very well here," Smith > told the BBC. "Michelle Obama has a strong aura about her, a bit like > Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis." > > > > Mrs. Obama attended a rehearsal at the Royal Opera House on Thursday with > the other spouses and guests. The program included music by Handel and a > dance performance by Ballet Black, a troupe set up to give performing > opportunities to black and Asian classical dancers. > > > > Wearing a bright blue dress by Jason Wu — who designed her inauguration > gown — Mrs. Obama posed for photographs with Sarah Brown, Therese Rein, wife >
[scifinoir2] OT: Queen Elizabeth Displays Rare Public Affection for Michelle Obama
Well! Old Queenie showed little emotion and showed Michelle some love! What a funny world when a handshake or arm put around another person is big news! The best I've ever seen though, was way back in the late '80s or early '90s when the Queen came to the US. She was meeting some regular folk-I want to say it was back in Dallas--and an older black woman grabbed Elizabeth and gave her a big hug! It was great: just like you'd expect from your aunt or grandma. Talk about a meeting of cultures. And I will say, it is reasons like this why it's important for people of color to be in positions of power. Not that the Obama's are nothing more than their skin--they're both accomplished and admirable way beyond that. But when was the last time a black ballet troupe in London was rolled out to entertain dignitaries? The Alvin Ailey group and Sweet Honey in the Rock have already performed at the White House for the Obamas, which is cool. What a great opportunity to showcase even more the culture and accomplishments of Africans wherever we may be. And funny, they say the press has lost interest in Carla Bruni--and Michelle Obama didn't even have to take her clothes off or cut an album to get attention! *** AP News LONDON — Michelle Obama has done what few others have managed — getting Queen Elizabeth II to break protocol. The first lady arrived Wednesday with President Barack Obama. After separate meetings on the eve of the G-20 summit, the couple attended an evening reception for world leaders hosted by the queen. Mrs. Obama clearly made an impression with the 82-year-old monarch — so much that the smiling queen strayed from protocol and put her arm around the first lady in a rare public show of affection. It was the first time Mrs. Obama — who is nearly a foot taller — had met the queen. The first lady also embraced her. A Buckingham Palace spokesman who asked not to be identified because of palace policy said he could not remember the last time that the queen had displayed such public affection with a first lady or dignitary. "It was a mutual and spontaneous display of affection," he said. "We don't issue instructions on not touching the queen." When the former Australian Prime Minister Paul Keating put his arm around the queen in 1992, the tabloids dubbed him the "Lizard of Oz." When his successor, John Howard, was accused of doing the same, a spokesman insisted: "We firmly deny that there was any contact whatsoever." In 2007, President Bush gave the queen a sly wink during a visit she paid to the United States. The Daily Mail said the "two women clearly took to each other." Wednesday's reception was followed by a dinner at Prime Minister Gordon Brown's Downing Street home, where the leaders' spouses were joined by notable British women, including "Harry Potter" author J.K. Rowling and Olympic gold medal runner Kelly Holmes. "Michelle walks in and she is as she seems," Holmes told reporters Thursday. "So warm, engaging, a beautiful, beautiful lady — and I quickly got my photo in the middle of her and Sarah Brown," the prime minister's wife. Mrs. Obama also seemed to win over the often feral British press. The last time a first lady made such a hit in Britain was last year with French President Nicolas Sarkozy's wife, the former fashion model wife and songwriter Carla Bruni. But on Thursday, London's Times newspaper wrote "Carla who?" The BBC described Mrs. Obama as her husband's co-star rather than supporting act — appropriate for a Harvard-educated lawyer. "She seems to be a good role model," said onlooker Rebecca Smith, who waited outside Buckingham Palace Wednesday to catch a glimpse of the Obamas. "A strong, intelligent woman, I think she'll go down very well here," Smith told the BBC. "Michelle Obama has a strong aura about her, a bit like Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis." Mrs. Obama attended a rehearsal at the Royal Opera House on Thursday with the other spouses and guests. The program included music by Handel and a dance performance by Ballet Black, a troupe set up to give performing opportunities to black and Asian classical dancers. Wearing a bright blue dress by Jason Wu — who designed her inauguration gown — Mrs. Obama posed for photographs with Sarah Brown, Therese Rein, wife of Australian Prime Minister Kevin Rudd, Japanese Prime Minister Taro Aso's wife Chikako Aso, and Laureen Harper, who is married to Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper, on the stage of the opera house. Mrs. Obama had other events in London planned for later Thursday. She visited a cancer center with other spouses Wednesday.
[scifinoir2] Black Age of Comics movement
Forward from http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blackscifihorrorfantasyclub/: Has anyone here checked out the Black Age of Comics movement which deals with graphic novels, comic books, games, & etc. that are created or derived from the Black or African experience? It has an annual convention in Philadelphia,, www.eccacc.com, the original one one in Chicago, www.dablackage.blogspot.com, and one starting up in Atlanta htis summer called ONYX CON. Plus one can search out The Museum of Black SUper Heroes as well. I was hoping that this club could have some type of appreciative nexus with those of us dealing with the Black Age Movment. And vice versa. Onli www.onlistudios.com
Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Producer Can't Wait To Kill Tenth Doctor
Yeah, I'm with you there. ~ "Where love and magic meet" ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/botdm.html Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/bamc.html Dare to take The Oath in this fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 1:18 AM, Tracey de Morsella < tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com> wrote: > Both, All of the above……sigh > > > > *From:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *Adrianne Brennan > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 01, 2009 8:07 PM > *To:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > > *Subject:* Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Producer Can't Wait To Kill Tenth Doctor > > > > Oh, it's not the new Doctor I'm worried about, to be honest. It's the > production team. > > > ~ "Where love and magic meet" ~ > http://www.adriannebrennan.com > Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon: > http://www.adriannebrennan.com/botdm.html > Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: > http://www.adriannebrennan.com/bamc.html > Dare to take The Oath in this fantasy series: > http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath > > On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 11:02 PM, Martin Baxter > wrote: > > I know... it's part of the risk of bringing in a new Doctor, the > near-certainty that some of the fans are going to bolt at the sight. Lots of > longtime fans I know kicked the show to the curb back in '74, when Jon > Pertwee left, saying that "that Tom Baker guy is just too goofy for the > role." Yes, I admit the possibility that this kid might be another Colin > Baker. (shuddering) > > > > > > > -[ Received Mail Content ]-- > > Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Producer Can't Wait To Kill Tenth Doctor > > Date : Wed, 1 Apr 2009 22:50:02 -0400 > > > From : Adrianne Brennan > > To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > > I know, but...I just don't like his approach to the Doctor. I really hope > that I'm wrong, but I'm not sure I'm going to like the new show. And > believe > me people are kidding themselves that with the completely different > management and staff that it won't be a totally different show. > ~ "Where love and magic meet" ~ > http://www.adriannebrennan.com > Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon: > http://www.adriannebrennan.com/botdm.html > Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: > http://www.adriannebrennan.com/bamc.html > Dare to take The Oath in this fantasy series: > http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath > > On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 10:45 PM, Martin Baxter wrote: > > > He does have a year and a half to write a few good ones. > > > > > > > > > > > > -[ Received Mail Content ]-- > > > > Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Producer Can't Wait To Kill Tenth Doctor > > > > Date : Wed, 1 Apr 2009 20:27:43 -0400 > > > > From : Adrianne Brennan > > > > > To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > All good, but given that I don't like many of his episodes...I can't say > > that I have any faith in him. Sorry. :( > > ~ "Where love and magic meet" ~ > > http://www.adriannebrennan.com > > Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon: > > http://www.adriannebrennan.com/botdm.html > > Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: > > http://www.adriannebrennan.com/bamc.html > > Dare to take The Oath in this fantasy series: > > http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 4:28 PM, Martin Baxter wrote: > > > > > Pardon me for the improper assumption, please. And I still ask you to > > have > > > faith. I don't think Moffatt is crazy enough to try to fix something > that > > > isn't broken. > > > > > > Well, I *hope* so... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -[ Received Mail Content ]-- > > > > > > Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Producer Can't Wait To Kill Tenth Doctor > > > > > > Date : Mon, 16 Mar 2009 11:47:15 -0400 > > > > > > From : Adrianne Brennan > > > > > > To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > > Didn't say I wouldn't. WAY more concerned with Moff at the helm than I > am > > > at > > > the new actor. > > > > > > ~ "Where love and magic meet" ~ > > > http://www.adriannebrennan.com > > > Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon: > > > http://www.adriannebrennan.com/botdm.html > > > Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: > > > http://www.adriannebrennan.com/bamc.html > > > Dare to take The Oath in this fantasy series: > > > http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 7:45 AM, Martin Baxter wrote: > > > > > > > Just give it a chance, Adrianne. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -[ Received Mail Content ]-- > > > > > > > > Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Producer Can't Wait To Kill Tenth > Doctor > > > > > > > > Date : Sun, 15 Mar 2009 22:36:26 -0400 > > > > > > > > From : Adrianne Brennan > > > > > > > > To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Producer Can't Wait To Kill Tenth Doctor
Nope. Not my nature to blindly have faith in anything or anyone. I really don't like most of Moffat's work. Sorry. ~ "Where love and magic meet" ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/botdm.html Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/bamc.html Dare to take The Oath in this fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 7:31 AM, Martin Baxter wrote: > A little faith, Adrianne. > > > > > > -[ Received Mail Content ]-- > > Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Producer Can't Wait To Kill Tenth Doctor > > Date : Wed, 1 Apr 2009 23:06:45 -0400 > > From : Adrianne Brennan > > To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > > > Oh, it's not the new Doctor I'm worried about, to be honest. It's the > production team. > > ~ "Where love and magic meet" ~ > http://www.adriannebrennan.com > Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon: > http://www.adriannebrennan.com/botdm.html > Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: > http://www.adriannebrennan.com/bamc.html > Dare to take The Oath in this fantasy series: > http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath > > > On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 11:02 PM, Martin Baxter wrote: > > > I know... it's part of the risk of bringing in a new Doctor, the > > near-certainty that some of the fans are going to bolt at the sight. Lots > of > > longtime fans I know kicked the show to the curb back in '74, when Jon > > Pertwee left, saying that "that Tom Baker guy is just too goofy for the > > role." Yes, I admit the possibility that this kid might be another Colin > > Baker. (shuddering) > > > > > > > > > > > > -[ Received Mail Content ]-- > > > > Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Producer Can't Wait To Kill Tenth Doctor > > > > Date : Wed, 1 Apr 2009 22:50:02 -0400 > > > > From : Adrianne Brennan > > > > To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > I know, but...I just don't like his approach to the Doctor. I really hope > > that I'm wrong, but I'm not sure I'm going to like the new show. And > > believe > > me people are kidding themselves that with the completely different > > management and staff that it won't be a totally different show. > > ~ "Where love and magic meet" ~ > > http://www.adriannebrennan.com > > Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon: > > http://www.adriannebrennan.com/botdm.html > > Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: > > http://www.adriannebrennan.com/bamc.html > > Dare to take The Oath in this fantasy series: > > http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 10:45 PM, Martin Baxter wrote: > > > > > He does have a year and a half to write a few good ones. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -[ Received Mail Content ]-- > > > > > > Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Producer Can't Wait To Kill Tenth Doctor > > > > > > Date : Wed, 1 Apr 2009 20:27:43 -0400 > > > > > > From : Adrianne Brennan > > > > > > To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > > All good, but given that I don't like many of his episodes...I can't > say > > > that I have any faith in him. Sorry. :( > > > ~ "Where love and magic meet" ~ > > > http://www.adriannebrennan.com > > > Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon: > > > http://www.adriannebrennan.com/botdm.html > > > Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: > > > http://www.adriannebrennan.com/bamc.html > > > Dare to take The Oath in this fantasy series: > > > http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 4:28 PM, Martin Baxter wrote: > > > > > > > Pardon me for the improper assumption, please. And I still ask you to > > > have > > > > faith. I don't think Moffatt is crazy enough to try to fix something > > that > > > > isn't broken. > > > > > > > > Well, I *hope* so... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -[ Received Mail Content ]-- > > > > > > > > Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Producer Can't Wait To Kill Tenth > Doctor > > > > > > > > Date : Mon, 16 Mar 2009 11:47:15 -0400 > > > > > > > > From : Adrianne Brennan > > > > > > > > To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > > > > > Didn't say I wouldn't. WAY more concerned with Moff at the helm than > I > > am > > > > at > > > > the new actor. > > > > > > > > ~ "Where love and magic meet" ~ > > > > http://www.adriannebrennan.com > > > > Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon: > > > > http://www.adriannebrennan.com/botdm.html > > > > Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: > > > > http://www.adriannebrennan.com/bamc.html > > > > Dare to take The Oath in this fantasy series: > > > > http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 7:45 AM, Martin Baxter wrote: > > > > > > > > > Just give it a chance, Adrianne. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -[ Received Mail Cont
Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Producer Can't Wait To Kill Tenth Doctor
A little faith, Adrianne. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Producer Can't Wait To Kill Tenth Doctor Date : Wed, 1 Apr 2009 23:06:45 -0400 From : Adrianne Brennan To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Oh, it's not the new Doctor I'm worried about, to be honest. It's the production team. ~ "Where love and magic meet" ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/botdm.html Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/bamc.html Dare to take The Oath in this fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 11:02 PM, Martin Baxter wrote: > I know... it's part of the risk of bringing in a new Doctor, the > near-certainty that some of the fans are going to bolt at the sight. Lots of > longtime fans I know kicked the show to the curb back in '74, when Jon > Pertwee left, saying that "that Tom Baker guy is just too goofy for the > role." Yes, I admit the possibility that this kid might be another Colin > Baker. (shuddering) > > > > > > -[ Received Mail Content ]-- > > Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Producer Can't Wait To Kill Tenth Doctor > > Date : Wed, 1 Apr 2009 22:50:02 -0400 > > From : Adrianne Brennan > > To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > > > I know, but...I just don't like his approach to the Doctor. I really hope > that I'm wrong, but I'm not sure I'm going to like the new show. And > believe > me people are kidding themselves that with the completely different > management and staff that it won't be a totally different show. > ~ "Where love and magic meet" ~ > http://www.adriannebrennan.com > Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon: > http://www.adriannebrennan.com/botdm.html > Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: > http://www.adriannebrennan.com/bamc.html > Dare to take The Oath in this fantasy series: > http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath > > > On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 10:45 PM, Martin Baxter wrote: > > > He does have a year and a half to write a few good ones. > > > > > > > > > > > > -[ Received Mail Content ]-- > > > > Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Producer Can't Wait To Kill Tenth Doctor > > > > Date : Wed, 1 Apr 2009 20:27:43 -0400 > > > > From : Adrianne Brennan > > > > To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > All good, but given that I don't like many of his episodes...I can't say > > that I have any faith in him. Sorry. :( > > ~ "Where love and magic meet" ~ > > http://www.adriannebrennan.com > > Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon: > > http://www.adriannebrennan.com/botdm.html > > Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: > > http://www.adriannebrennan.com/bamc.html > > Dare to take The Oath in this fantasy series: > > http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 4:28 PM, Martin Baxter wrote: > > > > > Pardon me for the improper assumption, please. And I still ask you to > > have > > > faith. I don't think Moffatt is crazy enough to try to fix something > that > > > isn't broken. > > > > > > Well, I *hope* so... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -[ Received Mail Content ]-- > > > > > > Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Producer Can't Wait To Kill Tenth Doctor > > > > > > Date : Mon, 16 Mar 2009 11:47:15 -0400 > > > > > > From : Adrianne Brennan > > > > > > To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > > Didn't say I wouldn't. WAY more concerned with Moff at the helm than I > am > > > at > > > the new actor. > > > > > > ~ "Where love and magic meet" ~ > > > http://www.adriannebrennan.com > > > Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon: > > > http://www.adriannebrennan.com/botdm.html > > > Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: > > > http://www.adriannebrennan.com/bamc.html > > > Dare to take The Oath in this fantasy series: > > > http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 7:45 AM, Martin Baxter wrote: > > > > > > > Just give it a chance, Adrianne. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -[ Received Mail Content ]-- > > > > > > > > Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Producer Can't Wait To Kill Tenth > Doctor > > > > > > > > Date : Sun, 15 Mar 2009 22:36:26 -0400 > > > > > > > > From : Adrianne Brennan > > > > > > > > To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > > > > > Ugh, I'm not. :( > > > > ~ "Where love and magic meet" ~ > > > > http://www.adriannebrennan.com > > > > Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon: > > > > http://www.adriannebrennan.com/botdm.html > > > > Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: > > > > http://www.adriannebrennan.com/bamc.html > > > > Dare to take The Oath in this fantasy series: > > > > http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 7:44 AM, Martin Baxter wrote: > > > > > > > > > Bloodthirsty
