[scifinoir2] Top 10 Evil Human Experiments
http://listverse.com/2008/03/14/top-10-evil-human-experiments/Top 10 Evil Human Experiments Share This javascript:void(0)- Published March 14, 2008 - 343 Commentshttp://listverse.com/2008/03/14/top-10-evil-human-experiments/#idc-container *[WARNING] This list contains descriptions and images of human experimentation which may cause offense to some readers.]* Human experimentation and research ethics evolved over time. On occasion, the subjects of human experimentation have been prisoners, slaves, or even family http://listverse.com/2008/03/14/top-10-evil-human-experiments/#members. In some notable cases, doctors have performed experiments on themselves when they have been unwilling to risk the lives of others. This is known as self-experimentation. This is a list of the 10 most evil and unethical experiments carried out on humans. 10 Stanford Prison Experiment [image: Stanford Prison] The Stanford prison experiment was a psychologicalhttp://listverse.com/2008/03/14/top-10-evil-human-experiments/#study of human responses to captivity and its behavioral effects on both authorities and inmates in prison. The experiment was conducted in 1971 by a team of researchers led by psychologist Philip Zimbardo at Stanford University. Undergraduate volunteers played the roles of both guards and prisoners living in a mock prison in the basement of the Stanford psychology building. Prisoners and guards rapidly adapted to their roles, stepping beyond the boundaries of what had been predicted and leading to dangerous and psychologically damaging situations. One-third of the guards were judged to have exhibited “genuine” sadistic tendencies, while many prisoners were emotionally traumatized and two had to be removed from the experiment early. Finally, Zimbardo, alarmed at the increasingly abusive anti-social behavior from his subjects, terminated the entire experiment early. 9 The Monster Study [image: Stuttering] The Monster Study was a stuttering experiment on 22 orphan childrenhttp://listverse.com/2008/03/14/top-10-evil-human-experiments/#in Davenport, Iowa, in 1939 conducted by Wendell Johnson at the University of Iowa. Johnson chose one of his graduate students, Mary Tudor, to conduct the experiment and he supervised her research. After placing the children in control and experimental groups, Tudor gave positive speech therapy to half of the children, praising the fluency of their speech, and negative speech therapy to the other half, belittling the children for every speech imperfection and telling them they were stutterers. Many of the normal speaking orphan children who received negative therapy in the experiment suffered negative psychological effects and some retained speech problems during the course of their life. Dubbed “The Monster Study” by some of Johnson’s peers who were horrified that he would experiment on orphan children to prove a theory, the experiment was kept hidden for fear Johnson’s reputation would be tarnished in the wake of human experiments conducted by the Nazis during World War II. The University of Iowa publicly apologized for the Monster Study in 2001. 8 Project 4.1 [image: 300Px-Project 4.1 Figures] Project 4.1 was the designation for a medical study conducted by the United States of those residents of the Marshall Islands exposed to radioactive fallout from the March 1, 1954 Castle Bravo nuclear test at Bikini Atoll, which had an unexpectedly large yield. For the first decade after the test, the effects were ambiguous and statistically difficult to correlate to radiation exposure: miscarriages and stillbirths among exposed Rongelap women doubled in the first five years after the accident, but then returned to normal; some developmental difficulties and impaired growth appeared in children, but in no clear-cut pattern. In the decades that followed, though, the effects were undeniable. Children began to suffer disproportionately from thyroid cancerhttp://listverse.com/2008/03/14/top-10-evil-human-experiments/#(due to exposure to radioiodines), and almost a third of those exposed developed neoplasms by 1974. As a Department of Energyhttp://listverse.com/2008/03/14/top-10-evil-human-experiments/#Committee writing on the human radiation experiments wrote, “It appears to have been almost immediately apparent to the AEC and the Joint Task Force running the Castle series that research on radiation effects could be done in conjunction with the medical treatment of the exposed populations.” The DOE report also concluded that “The dual purpose of what is now a DOE medical program has led to a view by the Marshallese that they were being used as ‘guinea pigs’ in a ‘radiation experiment.’” 7 Project MKULTRA [image: Cia Lsd] Project MKULTRA, or MK-ULTRA, was the code name for a CIA mind-control research program, run by the Office of Scientific Intelligence, that began in the early 1950s and continued at least through the late 1960s. There is much published evidence that the project
[scifinoir2] 10 Extremely Weird Religions
http://listverse.com/2009/09/10/10-extremely-weird-religions/Originally, I wasn't going to post this, but I noticed that 2 of the groups were African American. 10 Extremely Weird Religions Share This javascript:void(0)- Published September 10, 2009 by *JFrater* - 318 Commentshttp://listverse.com/2009/09/10/10-extremely-weird-religions/#idc-container We have previously published a variety of lists on strange religious practices http://listverse.com/2007/08/13/10-weird-religious-practices/, religions you never knew existedhttp://listverse.com/2008/07/08/top-10-religions-you-never-knew-existed/, and weird cults http://listverse.com/2007/09/15/top-10-cults/, but not a list of bizarre religions. This list is designed to fill the gap by discussing ten religions that most of us have not heard of (for good reason as you will see). Be sure to use the comments to tell us about any other bizarre religions and, especially, your own experiences of them. 10 Scientology [image: Scientology1-2]http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/scientology1-2.jpg Scientology has featured on a previous list, but if I didn’t include it here the comments would be inundated with “where’s scientology?” questions. The Church of Scientology is a cult created by L Ron Hubbard (Elron) in 1952 as an outgrowth of his earlier self-help system called Dianetics. The Church of Scientology holds that at the higher levels of initiation (OT levels) mystical teachings are imparted that may be harmful to unprepared readers. These teachings are kept secret from members who have not reached these levels. In the OT levels, Hubbard explains how to reverse the effects of past-life trauma patterns that supposedly extend millions of years into the past. Among these advanced teachings is the story of Xenu (sometimes Xemu), introduced as an alien ruler of the “Galactic Confederacy.” According to this story, 75 million years ago Xenu brought billions of people to Earth in spacecraft resembling Douglas DC-8 airliners, stacked them around volcanoes and detonated hydrogen bombs in the volcanoes. The thetans then clustered together, stuck to the bodies of the living, and continue to do this today. Scientologists at advanced levels place considerable emphasis on isolating body thetans and neutralizing their ill effects. 9 Creativity Movement [image: Splc Hale 350X4501]http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/splc_hale_350x4501.jpg The Creativity Movement (formerly known as World Church Of The Creator), is a white separatist organization that advocates the whites-only religion, Creativity. It was also a descriptive phrase used by Ben Klassen, that included all adherents of the religion. The use of the term creator does not refer to a deity, but rather to themselves (white people). Despite the former use of the word Church in its name, the movement is atheistic. Creativity is a White Separatist religion that was founded by Ben Klassen in early 1973 under the name Church of the Creator. After Klassen’s death in 1993, Creativity almost died out as a religion until the New Church of the Creator was established three years later by Matthew F. Hale as its Pontifex Maximus (high priest), until his incarceration in January 2003 for plotting with the movement’s head of security, Anthony Evola (an FBI informant), to murder a federal judge. 8 Thee Temple ov Psychick Youth [image: Picture 2-81]http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/picture-2-81.png Obviously spelling is not a fundamental part of this religion! Thee Temple ov Psychick Youth (TOPY) was founded in 1981 by members of Psychic TVhttp://listverse.com/2009/09/10/10-extremely-weird-religions/#, Coil, Current 93, and a number of other individuals. The ever-evolving network is a loosely federated group of people operating as a unique blend of artistic collective, and practitioners of magic. TOPY is dedicated to the manifestation of magical concepts lacking mysticism or the worship of gods. The group focuses on the psychic and magical aspects of the human brain linked with “guiltless sexuality”. Throughout its existence, TOPY has been an influential group in the underground Chaos magic scene and in the wider western occult tradition. TOPY’s research has covered both Left-hand path and Right-hand path magick, various elements of psychology, art, music, and a variety of other media. Some of the influences on the network have been Aleister Crowley http://listverse.com/2009/09/10/10-extremely-weird-religions/#, Austin Osman Spare, and Brion Gysin. 7 Nation of Yahweh [image: 1Heavensfamilyufosmall]http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/1heavensfamilyufosmall.jpg The Nation of Yahweh is a predominantly African-American religious group that is the most controversial offshoot of the Black Hebrew Israelites line of thought. They were founded in 1979 in Miami by Hulon Mitchell, Jr., who went by the name Yahweh ben Yahweh. Their goal is to return African Americans, whom they see as the original
[scifinoir2] 50 Spectacular Conceptual Artworks by Tariq Raheem
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Re: [scifinoir2] 50 Spectacular Conceptual Artworks by Tariq Raheem
No complaints here, Mr Worf. Thanks! On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 6:08 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: 50 Spectacular Conceptual Artworks by Tariq Raheemhttp://www.presidiacreative.com/50-spectacular-conceptual-artworks-by-tariq-raheem/ May 18, 2010 Featured http://www.presidiacreative.com/category/featured/, Inspiration http://www.presidiacreative.com/category/inspiration/ Tariq Raheem is a digital painter, illustrator and conceptual artist from Australia. His work combines a futuristic hybrid of humanity and machines, echoing themes from science fiction classics such as the Matrix, Blade Runner, Mass Effect and others, and a fantasy world of sorceresses, queens and Spartan warriors. In this post, we’ve featured 50 spectacular artworks from Tariq, selected from his gallery on deviantART: http://tariq12.deviantart.com/ His artwork is truly spectacular, so if the digital version isn’t enough for you, Tariq has recently artbook titled Chaotic Evolution. More information is available on his personal website: http://www.tariqart.net/ Hope you like the artworks! http://www.presidiacreative.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Sparky_001_CLOSE_UP.jpg http://www.presidiacreative.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Battle_Angel_by_tariq12.jpg http://www.presidiacreative.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/spidey_.jpg http://www.presidiacreative.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Spartan_Queen_close_up.jpg http://www.presidiacreative.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Queen.jpg http://www.presidiacreative.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Tia_ja.jpg http://www.presidiacreative.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/TheReaper_cvr_1_.jpg http://www.presidiacreative.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/The_Jester_480_.jpg http://www.presidiacreative.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/The_Guard_.jpg http://www.presidiacreative.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/The_Drifter_movie_poster_1.jpg http://www.presidiacreative.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/The_Devil__s_grave.jpg http://www.presidiacreative.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/The_Assassins_Lookout_MK_201.jpg http://www.presidiacreative.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/That-Which-Bites_cover.jpg http://www.presidiacreative.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Steve_Rogers__AKA__.jpg http://www.presidiacreative.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Spartan_Queen.jpg http://www.presidiacreative.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Silent_Alley.jpg http://www.presidiacreative.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Redhorn_poster.jpg http://www.presidiacreative.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Red-Sonja.jpg http://www.presidiacreative.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Recon.jpg http://www.presidiacreative.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/reactor-.jpg http://www.presidiacreative.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/plasmatron_fin__.jpg http://www.presidiacreative.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Our_Girl_1.jpg http://www.presidiacreative.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Maiden-of-War-1.jpg http://www.presidiacreative.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Mad_Darryl.jpg http://www.presidiacreative.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Lethal_Instinct_6_cover.jpg http://www.presidiacreative.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Lethal_Instinct_3.jpg http://www.presidiacreative.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Leech2B_.jpg http://www.presidiacreative.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/JP_and_Monica__.jpg http://www.presidiacreative.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/JFH_issue_3.jpg http://www.presidiacreative.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Hulk_vs_Wolvie.jpg http://www.presidiacreative.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Gypsy_poster.jpg http://www.presidiacreative.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Grokk_.jpg http://www.presidiacreative.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Drifter-poster-1_-clean-plate.jpg http://www.presidiacreative.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Dredd.jpg http://www.presidiacreative.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Conan_carnage_colour.jpg http://www.presidiacreative.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Canyon_.jpg http://www.presidiacreative.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Bunker__001.jpg http://www.presidiacreative.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/AIE_Poster_.jpg http://www.presidiacreative.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Aeshuam_WIP_colour.jpg http://www.presidiacreative.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Temple.jpg http://www.presidiacreative.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Scarrens__i_love_these_mofos.jpg http://www.presidiacreative.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Raven_.jpg http://www.presidiacreative.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Majesty_.jpg http://www.presidiacreative.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Dawn_Warrior__WIP.jpg http://www.presidiacreative.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Darrian_lynx.jpg http://www.presidiacreative.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Cry_Wolf_.jpg http://www.presidiacreative.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/creatures_408.jpg http://www.presidiacreative.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Shaka_Zulu_.jpg
Re: [scifinoir2] 10 Extremely Weird Religions
I laugh my narrow a$$ off at this, especially the Prince Philip Movement. Wonder if those brothers know that their deity is a racist bastich... On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 3:38 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: http://listverse.com/2009/09/10/10-extremely-weird-religions/ Originally, I wasn't going to post this, but I noticed that 2 of the groups were African American. 10 Extremely Weird Religions Share This- Published September 10, 2009 by *JFrater* - 318 Commentshttp://listverse.com/2009/09/10/10-extremely-weird-religions/#idc-container We have previously published a variety of lists on strange religious practices http://listverse.com/2007/08/13/10-weird-religious-practices/, religions you never knew existedhttp://listverse.com/2008/07/08/top-10-religions-you-never-knew-existed/, and weird cults http://listverse.com/2007/09/15/top-10-cults/, but not a list of bizarre religions. This list is designed to fill the gap by discussing ten religions that most of us have not heard of (for good reason as you will see). Be sure to use the comments to tell us about any other bizarre religions and, especially, your own experiences of them. 10 Scientology [image: Scientology1-2]http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/scientology1-2.jpg Scientology has featured on a previous list, but if I didn’t include it here the comments would be inundated with “where’s scientology?” questions. The Church of Scientology is a cult created by L Ron Hubbard (Elron) in 1952 as an outgrowth of his earlier self-help system called Dianetics. The Church of Scientology holds that at the higher levels of initiation (OT levels) mystical teachings are imparted that may be harmful to unprepared readers. These teachings are kept secret from members who have not reached these levels. In the OT levels, Hubbard explains how to reverse the effects of past-life trauma patterns that supposedly extend millions of years into the past. Among these advanced teachings is the story of Xenu (sometimes Xemu), introduced as an alien ruler of the “Galactic Confederacy.” According to this story, 75 million years ago Xenu brought billions of people to Earth in spacecraft resembling Douglas DC-8 airliners, stacked them around volcanoes and detonated hydrogen bombs in the volcanoes. The thetans then clustered together, stuck to the bodies of the living, and continue to do this today. Scientologists at advanced levels place considerable emphasis on isolating body thetans and neutralizing their ill effects. 9 Creativity Movement [image: Splc Hale 350X4501]http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/splc_hale_350x4501.jpg The Creativity Movement (formerly known as World Church Of The Creator), is a white separatist organization that advocates the whites-only religion, Creativity. It was also a descriptive phrase used by Ben Klassen, that included all adherents of the religion. The use of the term creator does not refer to a deity, but rather to themselves (white people). Despite the former use of the word Church in its name, the movement is atheistic. Creativity is a White Separatist religion that was founded by Ben Klassen in early 1973 under the name Church of the Creator. After Klassen’s death in 1993, Creativity almost died out as a religion until the New Church of the Creator was established three years later by Matthew F. Hale as its Pontifex Maximus (high priest), until his incarceration in January 2003 for plotting with the movement’s head of security, Anthony Evola (an FBI informant), to murder a federal judge. 8 Thee Temple ov Psychick Youth [image: Picture 2-81]http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/picture-2-81.png Obviously spelling is not a fundamental part of this religion! Thee Temple ov Psychick Youth (TOPY) was founded in 1981 by members of Psychic TVhttp://listverse.com/2009/09/10/10-extremely-weird-religions/#, Coil, Current 93, and a number of other individuals. The ever-evolving network is a loosely federated group of people operating as a unique blend of artistic collective, and practitioners of magic. TOPY is dedicated to the manifestation of magical concepts lacking mysticism or the worship of gods. The group focuses on the psychic and magical aspects of the human brain linked with “guiltless sexuality”. Throughout its existence, TOPY has been an influential group in the underground Chaos magic scene and in the wider western occult tradition. TOPY’s research has covered both Left-hand path and Right-hand path magick, various elements of psychology, art, music, and a variety of other media. Some of the influences on the network have been Aleister Crowley http://listverse.com/2009/09/10/10-extremely-weird-religions/#, Austin Osman Spare, and Brion Gysin. 7 Nation of Yahweh [image: 1Heavensfamilyufosmall]http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/1heavensfamilyufosmall.jpg The Nation of Yahweh is a predominantly
Re: [scifinoir2] Top 10 Evil Human Experiments
Ain't humanity WONDERFUL? Martin (needs t get around to hacking the DoD to launch everything and end this vale of tears) On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 3:28 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: http://listverse.com/2008/03/14/top-10-evil-human-experiments/ Top 10 Evil Human Experiments Share This- Published March 14, 2008 - 343 Commentshttp://listverse.com/2008/03/14/top-10-evil-human-experiments/#idc-container *[WARNING] This list contains descriptions and images of human experimentation which may cause offense to some readers.]* Human experimentation and research ethics evolved over time. On occasion, the subjects of human experimentation have been prisoners, slaves, or even family http://listverse.com/2008/03/14/top-10-evil-human-experiments/#members. In some notable cases, doctors have performed experiments on themselves when they have been unwilling to risk the lives of others. This is known as self-experimentation. This is a list of the 10 most evil and unethical experiments carried out on humans. 10 Stanford Prison Experiment [image: Stanford Prison] The Stanford prison experiment was a psychologicalhttp://listverse.com/2008/03/14/top-10-evil-human-experiments/#study of human responses to captivity and its behavioral effects on both authorities and inmates in prison. The experiment was conducted in 1971 by a team of researchers led by psychologist Philip Zimbardo at Stanford University. Undergraduate volunteers played the roles of both guards and prisoners living in a mock prison in the basement of the Stanford psychology building. Prisoners and guards rapidly adapted to their roles, stepping beyond the boundaries of what had been predicted and leading to dangerous and psychologically damaging situations. One-third of the guards were judged to have exhibited “genuine” sadistic tendencies, while many prisoners were emotionally traumatized and two had to be removed from the experiment early. Finally, Zimbardo, alarmed at the increasingly abusive anti-social behavior from his subjects, terminated the entire experiment early. 9 The Monster Study [image: Stuttering] The Monster Study was a stuttering experiment on 22 orphan childrenhttp://listverse.com/2008/03/14/top-10-evil-human-experiments/#in Davenport, Iowa, in 1939 conducted by Wendell Johnson at the University of Iowa. Johnson chose one of his graduate students, Mary Tudor, to conduct the experiment and he supervised her research. After placing the children in control and experimental groups, Tudor gave positive speech therapy to half of the children, praising the fluency of their speech, and negative speech therapy to the other half, belittling the children for every speech imperfection and telling them they were stutterers. Many of the normal speaking orphan children who received negative therapy in the experiment suffered negative psychological effects and some retained speech problems during the course of their life. Dubbed “The Monster Study” by some of Johnson’s peers who were horrified that he would experiment on orphan children to prove a theory, the experiment was kept hidden for fear Johnson’s reputation would be tarnished in the wake of human experiments conducted by the Nazis during World War II. The University of Iowa publicly apologized for the Monster Study in 2001. 8 Project 4.1 [image: 300Px-Project 4.1 Figures] Project 4.1 was the designation for a medical study conducted by the United States of those residents of the Marshall Islands exposed to radioactive fallout from the March 1, 1954 Castle Bravo nuclear test at Bikini Atoll, which had an unexpectedly large yield. For the first decade after the test, the effects were ambiguous and statistically difficult to correlate to radiation exposure: miscarriages and stillbirths among exposed Rongelap women doubled in the first five years after the accident, but then returned to normal; some developmental difficulties and impaired growth appeared in children, but in no clear-cut pattern. In the decades that followed, though, the effects were undeniable. Children began to suffer disproportionately from thyroid cancerhttp://listverse.com/2008/03/14/top-10-evil-human-experiments/#(due to exposure to radioiodines), and almost a third of those exposed developed neoplasms by 1974. As a Department of Energyhttp://listverse.com/2008/03/14/top-10-evil-human-experiments/#Committee writing on the human radiation experiments wrote, “It appears to have been almost immediately apparent to the AEC and the Joint Task Force running the Castle series that research on radiation effects could be done in conjunction with the medical treatment of the exposed populations.” The DOE report also concluded that “The dual purpose of what is now a DOE medical program has led to a view by the Marshallese that they were being used as ‘guinea pigs’ in a ‘radiation experiment.’” 7 Project MKULTRA [image: Cia
Re: [scifinoir2] [Far, Far Away Off Topic] Is 2010 New York City, America's Summer of Ass?
Brent, as a Leg Man for Life, I am bereft. On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 11:29 PM, brent wodehouse brent_wodeho...@thefence.us wrote: :-) http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/archives/2010/07/is_2010_new_yor.php Badonkadonk Is 2010 New York City, America's Summer of Ass? By Foster Kamer Mon., Jul. 12 2010 The times, they change. The ebb and flow of the universe is simply something to be gerneally understood as such, and nothing more. For every action, there's an equal reaction. And for every physics law, there's a metaphysical plane to apply it to that generally shows its face when you look at it from the right direction at a certain point. Like this one. From behind. In other words: In 2009, New York City, and the rest of America had the Summer of Death. In 2010, New York City, and the rest of America has the Summer of Ass. Because 2009 was the Summer, when, like, every celebrity died! And that's sad. So America must be rewarded with something. The revitalized popularity emerging for big derrieres -- an easily-achievable physical feat, one may argue -- is, of course, society's natural karmic award for bearing the pain of all those dead celebrities last year. The New York Daily News didn't note this in their piece of the Summer of Ass -- which, by the way, Runnin' Scared Dot Com would like to officially get behind (heh) in a big way (heh, that's another big ass joke, right there) -- but after much looking, and looking, and looking, and talking to impressively-assed celebrities like Kim Kardashian, they think they've unlocked the secret of the reemergence of the ample back-asset [ http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle/fashion/2010/07/12/2010-07-12_rearing_to_go_big_butts_are_summer_2010s_hottest_trend.html?page=1#ixzz0tTz6zgoG ]: 'Gone are the days of being ashamed of a wider bottom, with America becoming more diverse amid shifting standards, according to Stylesight trend analyst Sharon Graubard. I think it's about the diversity of our population and more accepted beauty, and a wider range of accepted beauty, Graubard explains.' Realize what a win-win situation this is for everyone: * The Big-Bottomed: Pleased. * The Ass Men: Pleased. * The Workout Industry: Pleased. * The Food Industry: Pleased. * The Ass-Accentuating Denim Industry: Pleased. * Pat Kiernan: Pleased [http://www.patspapers.com/story_stack/item/everybody_likes_big_butts/]. Of all of society's ills, will the large-ass trend work to heal any of them? Only time will tell. In the mean time, there's certainly one marginalized group that may -- nay, must -- see something good yielded by all of this: * The Booty Jam Nostalgists. Lest you not understand what a Booty Jam is, all you need to know is: It is a song created for hyper-utilization by those with, um, big asses. And hopefully, these songs will come back, because they are amazing. Certainly, you can have your Sir Mix-A-Lot, you may have your Apple Bottom Jeans and your Nelly, but ah, you don't know anything about Luke, 69 Boyz, and 2 Live Crew's heyday, until you experience it. Like this. -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
Re: [scifinoir2] ATT may also lose AMC
Mr Worf, in all honesty, I wouldn't count AMC as a loss. I haven't put my TV there in three years. On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 12:37 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: I just caught a commercial on AMC stating that ATT may lose AMC as well. Looks like they are trying to pull all of the good channels from ATT. -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
Re: [scifinoir2] Upgraded to 21st Century TV and Now Wonder
No, Bosco, you aren't missing anything. IMO, this is just the SF doesn't really matter to us syndrome at work. For those of you who doubt me, try this experiment. If there's a B Dalton's in your area, go to it. Walk in the door, go as straight as you can to the rear of the store, and hang aright. You'll be in the SF/Fantasy section. Where no one has to see it unless they *want* to see it. (I've tested this theory in six states, from California to Virginia, and found only two exceptions.) On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 11:36 PM, Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo.com wrote: So last week after noticing I hadn't actually used my home phone in more than 7 months, I decided to ditch it. I upgraded my ATT Uverse package and now have actual pay programing which is costing me less than the previous package. I was unfamiliar with the encore and starz end of the cable spectrum as I have never had premium channels before. They have western, action, mystery and other genre channels that are none to shabby. I have to wonder why they don't have a sci-fi or speculative fiction channel. It seems a natural. Surely there is bandwidth and programming available? Or am I missing something? Bosco -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
Re: [scifinoir2] Wide-eyed Beauty Seyfried to star in 'I'm.mortal'
This moves me. To stay away from it, that is. On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 11:40 PM, brent wodehouse brent_wodeho...@thefence.us wrote: http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118021636.html?categoryid=13cs=1 Posted: Mon., Jul. 12, 2010 Seyfried to star in 'I'm.mortal' New Regency sci-fi pic to be distributed by Fox By PAMELA MCCLINTOCK Amanda Seyfried is seeking immortality, starring in New Regency's sci-fi action thriller, I'm.mortal, from writer-director Andrew Niccol. Twentieth Century Fox will distribute the film, which also has romance elements. I'm.mortal centers on a society in which aging stops at 25 -- meaning that every role will be played by actors in their mid-20s. New Regency picked up the high-priority project this spring. Niccol is expected to begin lensing this year. Eric Newman and Marc Abraham are producing via their Strike Entertainment. Strike's Kristel Laiblin is exec producing. Time is the currency in the world of I'm.mortal, where citizens must buy and bank time when their aging gene turns off at age 25. The rich can live forever, but those who run out of time are engineered to die automatically. When a rebel from the ghetto is falsely accused of murdering a wealthy man for his time, he is forced to go on the run with a beautiful, rich hostage (Seyfried). Seyfried stars in Warner Bros.' upcoming Red Riding Hood, from director Catherine Hardwicke. She was last in theaters with Letters to Juliet, Dear John and Mamma Mia!The male lead hasn't yet been cast. It's a strange casting process. Even for a small role like a priest or a pawnbroker, where you would normally cast a 75-year-old character actor, I have to find a 75-year-old character actor in a 25-year old body, Niccol told Daily Variety. Niccol's previous directing/writing credits include Gattaca and Lord of War. He also wrote The Truman Show. I'm.mortal isn't the only sci-fi film project broaching the subject of a future where people don't age. A remake of Logan's Run has been in the works for more than a decade at Warner Bros., with Joel Silver and Akiva Goldsman producing. That film focuses on a man trying to escape a mandatory death sentence on his 30th birthday. Seyfried is repped by Innovative Artists. Contact Pamela McClintock at pamela.mcclint...@variety.compamela.mcclintock%40variety.com . -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
Re: [scifinoir2] Feature Version of Robert Heinlein's Have Space Suit, Will Travel
Please get it right... [?][?][?][?] Thanks for the post, Brent! [?] On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 11:06 PM, brent wodehouse brent_wodeho...@thefence.us wrote: http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118021311.html?categoryid=13cs=1 Jupiter 9 'Travels' to sci fi Indie to develop tome with Gotham Group By DAVE MCNARY Harry Kloor's Jupiter 9 Prods. is developing a feature version of Robert Heinlein's Have Space Suit, Will Travel with Gotham Group's Ellen Goldsmith-Vein and Peter McHugh attached as producers. Kloor, who founded Jupiter 9 to promote science literacy, obtained film rights after presenting a finished script to the Heinlein estate. I was inspired to become a scientist and science fiction writer in part by reading the works of grand master Robert Heinlein, Kloor said. Have Space Suit, Will Travel was originally serialized in 1958 in Magazine of Fantasy Science Fiction and published later that year in hardcover by Scribner's. Set in 2040, Space Suit tells the story of a teenager who loses a contest for a free trip to the Moon, but wins a broken-down space suit -- which contains properties that lead to humanity's first contact with aliens. Kloor's credits include writing for such TV series as Star Trek: Voyager, the animated series Godzilla and the syndie drama Earth: Final Conflict, and the upcoming animated feature Quantum Quest: A Cassini Space Odyssey, which will be released in large-format theaters in the fall. Quantum Quest interweaves animated sequences rendered by Digimax with space imagery captured from seven ongoing space missions. Gotham Group was a producer on The Spiderwick Chronicles and is in preproduction on Abduction, starring Taylor Lautner and directed by John Singleton. Contact Dave McNary at dave.mcn...@variety.com dave.mcnary%40variety.com -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 330.gif360.gif
Re: [scifinoir2] Kevin Bacon Vs The X-Men?
I could see him playing Henry Gyrich. On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 10:53 PM, brent wodehouse brent_wodeho...@thefence.us wrote: http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=28329 12 July 2010 Kevin Bacon Vs The X-Men? In talks for the First Class villain Source: Deadline The cast of Matthew Vaughn’s X-Men: First Class could all see their number in the Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon game go down by a few digits - the actor has been offered the role of the main villain in the movie. While the exact details of the bad guy is unknown, Deadline reports that Bacon is in talks to snatch the role, which would see him facing off against James McAvoy’s Professor Charles Xavier, Michael Fassbender’s Erik Lensherr and the young mutants they’re training to help the world. There has been a flurry of casting on the film in recent weeks, with the likes of Nicholas Hoult (Beast), Caleb Landry Jones (Banshee), Alice Eve (Emma Frost) and Lucas Till (Havoc) all signing on, with the likelihood of a few more to come. With a script re-written by Vaughn and regular collaborator Jane Goldman, X-Men: First Class will start shooting next month. James White -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
[scifinoir2] Top 10 Errors in Science Fiction Movies
Top 10 Errors in Science Fiction Movies Share This javascript:void(0)- Published November 23, 2007 - 5500249 Comments http://listverse.com/2007/11/23/top-10-errors-in-science-fiction-movies/ Top+10+Errors+in+Science+Fiction+Movies2007-11-23+11%3A22%3A44jfraterhttp://listverse.com/2007/11/23/top-10-errors-in-science-fiction-movies/#comments Science Fiction movies are great for expanding the mind and showing us things we may never get to see in real life. Unfortunately though, they all seem to make the same fundamental errors regarding true science. This is a list of the top 10 errors in Science Fiction movies. 10. Simplicity [image: 574Px-M87 Jet]http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/574px-m87-jet.jpg This is less a crime of commission than one of omission. Space is full of wonders we cannot even begin to understand, yet most science fiction films are based in a very simplistic environment and do not even begin to investigate the wonderful possibilities that science fiction offers us. We don’t see interplanetary tunnels, aliens on planets around pulsars, creatures living on dead suns, alien life forms that inhabit the edges of supermassive black holes, or so many of the other thought provoking scenarios. Let’s spice up our science fiction movies! 9. Simplistic Planets [image: 133946 Tatooine L]http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/133946-tatooine-l.jpg This is particularly evident in the Star Wars movies. Whenever a planet is introduced in a science fiction film, it has one equal ecological system across the entire planet – for example, it might be entirely covered in snow – or entirely covered in sand. If people are living on these planets, they must be providing water and other important things needed for survival. This, in turn, would suggest that the planet ought to have a well developed complex ecosystem which varies from region to region – for example ice at the poles and arid land at the center (this is just an example of course). 8. Alien / Human Breeding [image: Spock-1] http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/spock-1.jpg This is often seen in Star Trek – for example Spock – he was half human and half Vulcan. It is not even possible for human/ape crossbreeds to occur due to genetic differences, it is inconceivable that a human and an alien might be able to crossbreed. There are, of course, additional problems: how do you perform the cross breeding if the alien does not have sexual organs or the means to extract the necessary seeds of life? 7. Alien / Human communication [image: Dish] http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/dish.jpg If aliens did exist, it would be extremely unlikely that we could communicate with them in a very short amount of time. In addition to the regular problems in translating an entirely unknown language, we would also have to consider a society that probably involves concepts we do not understand at all. Imagine an alien race trying to understand God if they have never had a notion of religion in their society. Of course, none of this matters if the aliens communicate with their minds or non-audible means – it would be impossible for us to communicate at all with a race that has no concept of sight and sound. 6. Instant Communications [image: Contact Large 15]http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/contact-large-15.jpg Even if we did use light particles/waves to transmit radio data, the vast distances in space would make instant radio communication impossible. A rare exception to this flaw is in the movie Contact; as the camera draws away from the earth we hear the radio emanations getting progressively older until you finally reach silence. This trick is very effectively used to show just how massive space is. 5. Humanoid Aliens [image: Aliennewstag7]http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/aliennewstag7.jpg This is endemic on the various Star Trek series, where creatures from entirely different sectors of the Universe look just like Humans except for the occasional bulging ridge on their foreheads, etc. Humans evolved on earth in order to meet a very specific criteria for survival – the presumption that this is true of all other planets is ridiculous. 4. Explosions in Space [image: Explosion2004]http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/explosion2004.jpg Unfortunately virtually every science fiction movie makes this error – in fact, in the vacuum of outer space, there can be no flames (as flames need oxygen) and, of course, no boom. An exception to this is the film 2001, in which Bowman re-enters the Discovery by blowing out an airlock. 3. Superluminal Travel [image: 1062881070-Warp Speed]http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/1062881070-warp-speed.jpg According to Einstein’s special theory of relativity, as an object approaches the speed of light, the energy required to propel it is immense – by the time you reach the speed of light, infinite energy is needed – this renders faster-than-light travel
Re: [scifinoir2] Nolan won't replace Ledger as Joker in 'Batman 3'
That's upright of him. But I still won't be surprised if Ledger's replaced somewhere down the road. After all, this IS H'Wood we speak of... On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 10:47 PM, brent wodehouse brent_wodeho...@thefence.us wrote: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/entertainment/2012336593_apusfilmbatmansequel.html?prmid=head_main Nolan won't replace Ledger as Joker in 'Batman 3' Batman is returning, but he won't have the Joker to contend with next time. The Associated Press LOS ANGELES - Batman is returning, but he won't have the Joker to contend with next time. Director Christopher Nolan says he will not bring back the Joker, the villain played so maniacally in The Dark Knight by the late Heath Ledger that the role earned him an Academy Award a year after his death. Nolan would not disclose what villain or villains might take on Batman in the next film, due out July 20, 2012, the same weekend that brought the record-breaking $158.4 million debut of The Dark Knight in 2008. For me, Heath was the definitive Joker, Nolan said in an interview to promote Inception, his sci-fi thriller opening Friday. It wouldn't feel appropriate to readdress that character. Ledger died of an accidental prescription drug overdose in January 2008. His death stoked fan interest in The Dark Knight, which topped $1 billion at the box office worldwide. With his supporting-actor win, Ledger became only the second performer ever to earn an Oscar posthumously. The next Batman film will be the third in the current Warner Bros. incarnation of the franchise, which stars Christian Bale as the vigilante superhero. -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
Re: [scifinoir2] Top 10 Errors in Science Fiction Movies
Mr Worf, this goes back to the lack of science advisers in SF movies. Again, blame H'Wood. I do. On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 6:52 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: Top 10 Errors in Science Fiction Movies Share This- Published November 23, 2007 - 5500249 Comments http://listverse.com/2007/11/23/top-10-errors-in-science-fiction-movies/ Top+10+Errors+in+Science+Fiction+Movies2007-11-23+11%3A22%3A44jfraterhttp://listverse.com/2007/11/23/top-10-errors-in-science-fiction-movies/#comments Science Fiction movies are great for expanding the mind and showing us things we may never get to see in real life. Unfortunately though, they all seem to make the same fundamental errors regarding true science. This is a list of the top 10 errors in Science Fiction movies. 10. Simplicity [image: 574Px-M87 Jet]http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/574px-m87-jet.jpg This is less a crime of commission than one of omission. Space is full of wonders we cannot even begin to understand, yet most science fiction films are based in a very simplistic environment and do not even begin to investigate the wonderful possibilities that science fiction offers us. We don’t see interplanetary tunnels, aliens on planets around pulsars, creatures living on dead suns, alien life forms that inhabit the edges of supermassive black holes, or so many of the other thought provoking scenarios. Let’s spice up our science fiction movies! 9. Simplistic Planets [image: 133946 Tatooine L]http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/133946-tatooine-l.jpg This is particularly evident in the Star Wars movies. Whenever a planet is introduced in a science fiction film, it has one equal ecological system across the entire planet – for example, it might be entirely covered in snow – or entirely covered in sand. If people are living on these planets, they must be providing water and other important things needed for survival. This, in turn, would suggest that the planet ought to have a well developed complex ecosystem which varies from region to region – for example ice at the poles and arid land at the center (this is just an example of course). 8. Alien / Human Breeding [image: Spock-1]http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/spock-1.jpg This is often seen in Star Trek – for example Spock – he was half human and half Vulcan. It is not even possible for human/ape crossbreeds to occur due to genetic differences, it is inconceivable that a human and an alien might be able to crossbreed. There are, of course, additional problems: how do you perform the cross breeding if the alien does not have sexual organs or the means to extract the necessary seeds of life? 7. Alien / Human communication [image: Dish] http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/dish.jpg If aliens did exist, it would be extremely unlikely that we could communicate with them in a very short amount of time. In addition to the regular problems in translating an entirely unknown language, we would also have to consider a society that probably involves concepts we do not understand at all. Imagine an alien race trying to understand God if they have never had a notion of religion in their society. Of course, none of this matters if the aliens communicate with their minds or non-audible means – it would be impossible for us to communicate at all with a race that has no concept of sight and sound. 6. Instant Communications [image: Contact Large 15]http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/contact-large-15.jpg Even if we did use light particles/waves to transmit radio data, the vast distances in space would make instant radio communication impossible. A rare exception to this flaw is in the movie Contact; as the camera draws away from the earth we hear the radio emanations getting progressively older until you finally reach silence. This trick is very effectively used to show just how massive space is. 5. Humanoid Aliens [image: Aliennewstag7]http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/aliennewstag7.jpg This is endemic on the various Star Trek series, where creatures from entirely different sectors of the Universe look just like Humans except for the occasional bulging ridge on their foreheads, etc. Humans evolved on earth in order to meet a very specific criteria for survival – the presumption that this is true of all other planets is ridiculous. 4. Explosions in Space [image: Explosion2004]http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/explosion2004.jpg Unfortunately virtually every science fiction movie makes this error – in fact, in the vacuum of outer space, there can be no flames (as flames need oxygen) and, of course, no boom. An exception to this is the film 2001, in which Bowman re-enters the Discovery by blowing out an airlock. 3. Superluminal Travel [image: 1062881070-Warp Speed]http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/1062881070-warp-speed.jpg According to
Re: [scifinoir2] Tesla May Get Some Company: The Supercar Goes Electric
They've got it on the boards right now, I hear. On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 8:36 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: Porchea and Ferrari are both working on one as well. Although I think Ferrari will probably do a hybrid first. On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 3:43 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: I'm impressed. But the Veyron still owns the better part of me. On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote: Tesla May Get Some Company: The Supercar Goes Electric *CHARGE!* SLS AMG E-Cell has an electric motor powering each of the wheels. More Photos »http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2010/07/11/automobiles/autoreviews/20100711-mercedes.html By LAWRENCE ULRICH Published: July 8, 2010 - Facebookhttp://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/11/automobiles/11ELECTRIC.html?_r=1# - Twitter - Recommend - Sign In to E-Mailhttp://www.nytimes.com/auth/login?URI=http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/11/automobiles/11ELECTRIC.html - Printhttp://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/11/automobiles/11ELECTRIC.html?_r=1pagewanted=print - Reprintshttp://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/11/automobiles/11ELECTRIC.html?_r=1# - Sharehttp://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/11/automobiles/11ELECTRIC.html?_r=1# Closehttp://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/11/automobiles/11ELECTRIC.html?_r=1# - Linkedinhttp://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/11/automobiles/11ELECTRIC.html?_r=1# - Digghttp://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/11/automobiles/11ELECTRIC.html?_r=1# - Mixxhttp://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/11/automobiles/11ELECTRIC.html?_r=1# - MySpacehttp://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/11/automobiles/11ELECTRIC.html?_r=1# - Yahoo! Buzzhttp://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/11/automobiles/11ELECTRIC.html?_r=1# - Permalinkhttp://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/11/automobiles/11ELECTRIC.html?_r=1# - http://www.nytimes.com/adx/bin/adx_click.html?type=gotoopznpage=www.nytimes.com/yr/mo/day/automobilespos=Frame4Asn2=7da8705c/b3e9b981sn1=d03db86c/2f814a4ecamp=foxsearch2010_emailtools_1225558c_nyt5ad=Cyrus_120x60_NowPlaying_06.18goto=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Efoxsearchlight%2Ecom%2Fcyrus INTRODUCED in New York in 1954, the Mercedes-Benz 300SL was a stunningly advanced machine, the first production car to trade a carburetor for fuel injection. Multimedia Slide Show http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2010/07/11/automobiles/autoreviews/20100711-mercedes.html?ref=automobiles 2011 Mercedes-Benz SLS AMGhttp://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2010/07/11/automobiles/autoreviews/20100711-mercedes.html?ref=automobiles Related - Behind the Wheel | 2011 Mercedes-Benz Sls Amg: Winging It One More Timehttp://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/11/automobiles/autoreviews/11WHEEL.html?ref=automobiles(July 11, 2010) Now, with the SLS AMG echoing the style of that original gullwing sports car, Mercedes may produce an electric version that could give the company environmental bragging rights. Mercedes is testing the prototype SLS AMG E-Cell, in which the standard model’s 563-horsepower gasoline V-8 has been replaced with four electric motors, one powering each wheel, that spool up 535 horsepower and 649 pound-feet of peak torque. Mercedes estimates a 0-to-60 time of four seconds flat for the electric SLS, just a few tenths slower than the gasoline version. Power is stored in a liquid-cooled lithiumhttp://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/subjects/l/lithium_metal/index.html?inline=nyt-classifier-ion battery; brakes capture energy and return it to the battery. Ola Kallenius, chairman of Mercedes’s AMG high-performance division, said the company was considering a small production run for the SLS E-Cell. At a recent presentation for the car in Norway, a retired Formula Onehttp://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/f/formula_one/index.html?inline=nyt-orgracer, David Coulthard, tested the E-Cell on an airstrip and public roads. His drive and commentary were documented on Web video. “My first experience of an electric carhttp://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/subjects/e/electric_vehicles/index.html?inline=nyt-classifier,” Mr. Coulthard said, emerging from the E-Cell with a grin. “You will not believe the performance.” The E-Cell, along with cars like the new S400 hybrid sedan, shows Mercedes shifting more of its renowned technical resources toward increasing fuel economy and developing alternative propulsion systems. Mercedes, which has paid more than $300 million in federal fines since 1983 for falling short of fuel-economy standards — thanks largely to its fuel-sucking AMG models — has vowed to improve mileage and avoid the fines. Mercedes has not disclosed a potential price, driving range or top speed for the E-Cell, though the basics are easily surmised: it is likely to cost more than the gas model, with much less range and a lower top speed — perhaps 120 miles per hour instead of 197. Audi may beat
[scifinoir2] Top 10 Filmable Batman Villains
Top 10 Filmable Batman Villains Share This javascript:void(0)- Published January 2, 2010 by * valentinedragon* - 143 Commentshttp://listverse.com/2010/01/02/top-10-filmable-batman-villains/#idc-container It can’t be denied that Christopher Nolanhttp://listverse.com/2010/01/02/top-10-filmable-batman-villains/#has reinvented the way we look at comic book movies today. This was accomplished once he realized that he can take away the “Pow!” “Boom!” and “Kablamo!” attached to the Batman legacy where he then found material for some deeply moving, thrilling, and innovative stories. As shown in Batman Begins and The Dark Knight, Nolan created a believable universe in which Batman and his band of not-so-merry men could truly exist where they were once thought too cartoon-ish or unrealistic for serious cinema. He successfully brought the Scarecrow, Ra’s al Ghul, Two-Face and the Joker to life but what lies ahead for the third (and future) installment in this new Batman franchise? Which characters have the greatest potential to make the cut in the Nolanverse? 10 Clayface [image: Zclayface]http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/zclayface.jpg *Name/Alias:* Several – Clayface *Story:* Clayface is the only person on this list with superpowers which is an attribute we have yet to see in any Nolanverse villain but don’t cast him aside just yet. Not only can he make weapons like saws, hammershttp://listverse.com/2010/01/02/top-10-filmable-batman-villains/#, and blades with his own body, he can shapeshift into anyone. Think of him as the clay baby of T-1000 from Terminator 2 and Mystique from X-Men. The actions Clayface is capable of are endless. Does he want to infiltrate Wayne Enterprises? Pose as Lucius Fox. Does he want to break someone out of Arkham? Pose as a security guard. Or better yet: Does he want to ruin Batman’s reputation? Pose as the Bat himself. Clayface could very easily become a bad decision in the Nolanverse should the production team make him into a Sandman-esque character from Spider-Man 3. I say that just because a villain has powers doesn’t mean he needs to go overboard with said powers. Allow Clayface to absorb a batarang or fall off a skyscraper without a scratch. He doesn’t need to turn into the Blob and mud up the city for him to be impressive and/or worthwhile. *Overall Challenge:* High. A character made of clay who can be anyone at any time and who can get out of almost any situation? Yeah. I hope it rains a lot in Gotham. 9 Talia al Ghul [image: Ztalia] http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/ztalia.jpg *Name/Alias:* Talia al Ghul *Story:* Move aside Rachel What’s-Your-Name! You’re yesterday’s news. Enter Talia al Ghul, the daughter of the League of Shadows leader Ra’s al Ghul. Although, you don’t want to label her as some damsel in distress. Not only can Talia’s exotic beauty stun a man, she can work a number of weapons expertly and her handle of the sword is not easily matched (pun slightly intended). In the comics, she (like her father) knows that Bruce Wayne is Batman and she is convinced that he is the most suitable man to bear a child with. The two share an on-again off-again relationship, making Talia not a strict Batman villain, but rather an anti-hero who errs on the side of good from time to time. As we saw in Batman Beginshttp://listverse.com/2010/01/02/top-10-filmable-batman-villains/#, Ra’s al Ghul blended into the Nolanverse perfectly so the chances that his daughter can do the same are equally good. Plus, we don’t hear anything from Ra’s during the second film, so what better way to reintroduce him in the third film then by sending his daughter to seduce Bruce back into his favor? Ra’s gets a “son,” Talia gets her man, and Bats gets some booty. Everybody wins! *Overall Challenge:* Medium. What stops Talia from being a true villain is her love and respect for Batman so if he’s smart, he’ll use that infamous playboy charm of his when he needs it most, say, right before she beheads him to please her father. 8 Calculator [image: Zcalculator]http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/zcalculator.jpg *Name/Alias:* Noah Kuttler – Calculator *Story:* As a relatively unknown rogue, Calculator first began as a third-rate criminal. It wasn’t until recent that he discovered how to reinvent himself for the modern war between heroes and villains: start a business! Serving as the “evil” counterpart to Oracle (Barbara Gordon, a.k.a the former Batgirl), Calculator began a business where he serves as the villain community’s information broker. In need of henchmen? Weapons? Jobshttp://listverse.com/2010/01/02/top-10-filmable-batman-villains/#? Maps? Connections? The Calculator is the man to hook you up with your criminal needs… for a price. One of the good things about Noah is that doesn’t run around at night in a costume. The threat he poses is a technological one. We’re beginning to see more of Batman’s detective work (primarily in The Dark Knight) and a perfect
Re: [scifinoir2] Flying Car approved by FAA
I've heard about it. Someone in Clayton County (where Hartsfield-Jackson is) is protesting the installation of the tower it'll take, because of property issues. On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: That's very true. I live near the flight path and if you combine all of that plus careless drivers and we will have issues. I'm just hoping that they use the new satellite based system to help out with takeoffs and landings. (have you heard about that yet? They just installed it here.) On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 3:38 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: DEFINITELY not an urban setting. At any given moment, 50,000 people tying to take to the skies=at least 100 crashes. On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 7:04 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote: There is that little town in Florida that is small plane friendly. I think John Travolta owns a house there. Taking off from the street wouldn't be illegal there. I could see that working in some areas or more rural areas but not in a urban setting. On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 5:45 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: http://www.boingboing.net/2010/07/09/ridiculous-looking-f.html Next year, those of you with a sport pilot license and $194,000 to burn will be able to buy an honest-to-Doc-Brown flying car. Take-off requires a mere 1/3 of a mile runway, which Popular Science says means you could use your street as an airstrip—but I suspect that may be illegal. -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
Re: [scifinoir2] Top 10 Filmable Batman Villains
Right off the bat, whoever wrote this is lagging behind, else he/she would already know that Batman and Talia have a son, Damian, and that he's Robin. I've been waiting for Zasaz, Hush and Black mask to be called up to the big screen. Catwoman and Riddler, IMO, they can keep. Deadshot would be extra fun because, in continuity, he trained Batman (Bruce Wayne) in sniping. On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 7:06 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: Top 10 Filmable Batman Villains Share This- Published January 2, 2010 by *valentinedragon* - 143 Commentshttp://listverse.com/2010/01/02/top-10-filmable-batman-villains/#idc-container It can’t be denied that Christopher Nolanhttp://listverse.com/2010/01/02/top-10-filmable-batman-villains/#has reinvented the way we look at comic book movies today. This was accomplished once he realized that he can take away the “Pow!” “Boom!” and “Kablamo!” attached to the Batman legacy where he then found material for some deeply moving, thrilling, and innovative stories. As shown in Batman Begins and The Dark Knight, Nolan created a believable universe in which Batman and his band of not-so-merry men could truly exist where they were once thought too cartoon-ish or unrealistic for serious cinema. He successfully brought the Scarecrow, Ra’s al Ghul, Two-Face and the Joker to life but what lies ahead for the third (and future) installment in this new Batman franchise? Which characters have the greatest potential to make the cut in the Nolanverse? 10 Clayface [image: Zclayface]http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/zclayface.jpg *Name/Alias:* Several – Clayface *Story:* Clayface is the only person on this list with superpowers which is an attribute we have yet to see in any Nolanverse villain but don’t cast him aside just yet. Not only can he make weapons like saws, hammershttp://listverse.com/2010/01/02/top-10-filmable-batman-villains/#, and blades with his own body, he can shapeshift into anyone. Think of him as the clay baby of T-1000 from Terminator 2 and Mystique from X-Men. The actions Clayface is capable of are endless. Does he want to infiltrate Wayne Enterprises? Pose as Lucius Fox. Does he want to break someone out of Arkham? Pose as a security guard. Or better yet: Does he want to ruin Batman’s reputation? Pose as the Bat himself. Clayface could very easily become a bad decision in the Nolanverse should the production team make him into a Sandman-esque character from Spider-Man 3. I say that just because a villain has powers doesn’t mean he needs to go overboard with said powers. Allow Clayface to absorb a batarang or fall off a skyscraper without a scratch. He doesn’t need to turn into the Blob and mud up the city for him to be impressive and/or worthwhile. *Overall Challenge:* High. A character made of clay who can be anyone at any time and who can get out of almost any situation? Yeah. I hope it rains a lot in Gotham. 9 Talia al Ghul [image: Ztalia] http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/ztalia.jpg *Name/Alias:* Talia al Ghul *Story:* Move aside Rachel What’s-Your-Name! You’re yesterday’s news. Enter Talia al Ghul, the daughter of the League of Shadows leader Ra’s al Ghul. Although, you don’t want to label her as some damsel in distress. Not only can Talia’s exotic beauty stun a man, she can work a number of weapons expertly and her handle of the sword is not easily matched (pun slightly intended). In the comics, she (like her father) knows that Bruce Wayne is Batman and she is convinced that he is the most suitable man to bear a child with. The two share an on-again off-again relationship, making Talia not a strict Batman villain, but rather an anti-hero who errs on the side of good from time to time. As we saw in Batman Beginshttp://listverse.com/2010/01/02/top-10-filmable-batman-villains/#, Ra’s al Ghul blended into the Nolanverse perfectly so the chances that his daughter can do the same are equally good. Plus, we don’t hear anything from Ra’s during the second film, so what better way to reintroduce him in the third film then by sending his daughter to seduce Bruce back into his favor? Ra’s gets a “son,” Talia gets her man, and Bats gets some booty. Everybody wins! *Overall Challenge:* Medium. What stops Talia from being a true villain is her love and respect for Batman so if he’s smart, he’ll use that infamous playboy charm of his when he needs it most, say, right before she beheads him to please her father. 8 Calculator [image: Zcalculator]http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/zcalculator.jpg *Name/Alias:* Noah Kuttler – Calculator *Story:* As a relatively unknown rogue, Calculator first began as a third-rate criminal. It wasn’t until recent that he discovered how to reinvent himself for the modern war between heroes and villains: start a business! Serving as the “evil” counterpart to Oracle (Barbara Gordon, a.k.a the former Batgirl), Calculator
Re: [scifinoir2] Fwd: Consumer Group Sniffs Congresswoman's Open Wi-Fi
True, Mr Worf, on both counts. I'm thinking that Google's intent in this was two-fold, to deflect attention from their own hacking and actual altruism, wanting to solve the problem before it leaps out of hand. On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 8:34 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: Some of these politicians are just stupid, but she probably didn't have anything to do with setting up the network. On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 3:44 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Martin Baxter martin.baxter@gmail.com Date: Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 3:52 PM Subject: Consumer Group Sniffs Congresswoman's Open Wi-Fi To: martinbaxt...@gmail.com Holy hacking, Batman! === Consumer Group Sniffs Congresswoman’s Open Wi-Fi - By David Kravetshttp://www.wired.com/threatlevel/author/davidkravets/ [image: Email Author] david_krav...@wired.com - July 9, 2010 | - 1:37 pm | - Categories: Surveillancehttp://www.wired.com/threatlevel/category/surveillance/, privacy http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/category/privacy/ - http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/threatlevel/2010/07/Picture-28.pngWe’re not sure what’s more humorous: That California Rep. Jane Harman, the ranking member of the House Intelligence Committee, maintains two unencrypted Wi-Fi networks at her residence, or that a consumer group sniffed her unsecured traffic in a bid to convince lawmakers to hold hearings about Google. A representative for Consumer Watchdoghttp://www.consumerwatchdog.org/corporateering/articles/?storyId=35100— a group largely funded by legal fees, the Rose Foundation, Streisand Foundation, Tides Foundation and others — parked outside Harman’s and other lawmakers’ Washington-area residences to determine whether they had unsecured Wi-Fi networks that might have been sniffed by Google as part of the internet giant’s Street View and Google Maps program. The group wants the House Energy and Commerce Committee, of which Harman is also a member, to haul Google executives before it, so they can publicly explain why, for three years, Google was downloading data packets from unencrypted Wi-Fi networks in neighborhoods in dozens of countries. Google has repeatedly said it didn’t realize it was storing snippets of payload data on unsecured Wi-Fi networks, until German privacy authorities began questioning what data Google was collecting. More at: http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/07/congresswoman-wifi-sniffed/ -- Between getsumei no michi and the Zero...no better place to live. (About little moments of happiness) If this isn't nice, I don't know what is. -- Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
Re: [scifinoir2] Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick
Keith, if they want flavor-of-the-week, Michael Cera would be a great fit for Banner as well. And the character would have to be written, IMO, the way he's been done post-World War Hulk, after Banner and the Hulk were separated, and Banner became a truly scary bastich who played mind games with everyone around him. On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: They need to quit worrying about name actors and just get an actor who looks and can play the part. Eric Bana was way too buff and handsome for Banner. Norton was probably closer, but his almost Shakespearean intensity was a bit too much for the skinny, unsure, milksop that is Bruce Banner. I think Phoenix would come off too much like a crazed mad scientist than the puny Banner we need. Cast the net far and wide to find the right man, and notoriety be hanged! That's the damn problem with H'Wood all the time. Someone who looks the part, for example, would be Jon Cryer, the whiny brother on Two and A Half Men. Not saying he *should* do it, but that's the *look* you need for Banner-someone who looks soft and weak, as if he's never seen the sun or the inside of a gym. - Original Message - From: Daryle Lockhart dar...@darylelockhart.com So now I'm hearing they're talking seriously to Joaquin Phoenix. Which is both awesome and frightening at the same time to me. * On Jul 12, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Cinque B wrote: Marvel: Norton Won't Return As Hulk For 'Avengers'; Norton's Rep Responds Source: Access Hollywoodhttp://movies.yahoo.com/news/usmovies.accesshollywood.com/ Sun Jul 11, 2010, 8:15 pm EDT Edward Norton http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/contributor/1800018634 won't be reprising his role as the Incredible Hulkhttp://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1807592188/info/in 2012's The Avengers, a Marvel rep confirmed to * Access Hollywood * on Sunday. Marvel Studios president of production Kevin Feige explained the decision in a statement to *HitFix*http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/2008-12-6-motion-captured/posts/exclusive-marvel-confirms-they-will-hire-new-hulk-for-avengers . VIEW THE PHOTOS: Edward Nortonhttp://www.accesshollywood.com/edward-norton_gallery_1430 We have made the decision to not bring Ed Nortonhttp://movies.yahoo.com/movie/contributor/1800018634back to portray the title role of Bruce Banner in 'The Avengers,' Feige told the site. Our decision is definitely not one based on monetary factors, but instead rooted in the need for an actor who embodies the creativity and collaborative spirit of our other talented cast members. 'The Avengers' demands players who thrive working as part of an ensemble, as evidenced by Robert, Chris H, Chris E, Sam, Scarlett, and all of our talented casts. We are looking to announce a name actor who fulfills these requirements, and is passionate about the iconic role in the coming weeks. The actors referred to in the statement include current Marvel stars Robert Downey Jr. http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/contributor/1800010914 ( Iron Man http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1808411893/info/ ), Chris Hemsworth (Thor), Chris Evanshttp://movies.yahoo.com/movie/contributor/1803006988(Captain America: The First Avenger), Samuel L. Jackson http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/contributor/1800018848 (Nick Fury), Scarlett Johanssonhttp://movies.yahoo.com/movie/contributor/1800022348( Iron Man http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1808411893/info/ 2's Black Widow), who are expected to reprise their superhero roles in team-up film The Avengers. VIEW THE PHOTOS: Scenes From ‘ http://www.accesshollywood.com/check-out-these-scenes-from-the-incredible-hulk_gallery_1370The Incredible Hulk http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1807592188/info/ ’ A rep for Norton responded to the statement to Hitfix on Sunday, calling it purposefully misleading and claiming that his client had been in discussions to return to the role. This offensive statement from Kevin Feige at Marvel is a purposefully misleading, inappropriate attempt to paint our client in a negative light, the rep told the site. Here are the facts: two months ago, Kevin called me and said he wanted Edward to reprise the role of Bruce Banner in 'The Avengers.' He told me it would be his fantasy to bring Edward on stage with the rest of the cast at [Comic-Con] and make it the event of the convention. When I said that Edward was definitely open to this idea, Kevin was very excited and we agreed that Edward should meet with [director] Joss Whedon to discuss the project. Edward and Joss had a very good meeting (confirmed by Feige to me) at which Edward said he was enthusiastic at the prospect of being a part of the ensemble cast. However, the rep further claimed, the talks fell apart last week. VIEW THE PHOTOS: Fan Candy : Superheroes, Sci-Fi Beyond
Re: [scifinoir2] Dude builds entire Iron Man suit (7 Photos)
Guy deserves that brewski at the end. He done good... On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 7:51 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: Dude builds entire Iron Man suit (7 Photos)http://thechive.com/2010/01/06/dude-constructs-entire-iron-man-suit/ Author: John http://thechive.com/author/jresig/ - links http://thechive.com/category/links [image: iron man new Dude builds entire Iron Man suit (7 Photos)]http://thechive.com/2010/01/06/dude-constructs-entire-iron-man-suit Edit: Apparently that’s War Machine, not Iron Man, however I’m not changing the title ’cause I’m drinking Jack Daniels at the moment. Continue with your nerdgasms… [image: iron man pics 41 Dude builds entire Iron Man suit (7 Photos)]http://thechive.com/2010/01/06/dude-constructs-entire-iron-man-suit/iron-man-pics-4-2/ [image: iron man pics 01 Dude builds entire Iron Man suit (7 Photos)]http://thechive.com/2010/01/06/dude-constructs-entire-iron-man-suit/iron-man-pics-0-2/ [image: iron man pics 11 Dude builds entire Iron Man suit (7 Photos)]http://thechive.com/2010/01/06/dude-constructs-entire-iron-man-suit/iron-man-pics-1-2/ [image: iron man pics 21 Dude builds entire Iron Man suit (7 Photos)]http://thechive.com/2010/01/06/dude-constructs-entire-iron-man-suit/iron-man-pics-2-2/ [image: iron man suit1 Dude builds entire Iron Man suit (7 Photos)]http://thechive.com/2010/01/06/dude-constructs-entire-iron-man-suit/iron-man-suit-2/ [image: iron man pics 51 Dude builds entire Iron Man suit (7 Photos)]http://thechive.com/2010/01/06/dude-constructs-entire-iron-man-suit/iron-man-pics-5-2/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
[scifinoir2] Re: Where Are They Now - Project Greenlight Winners
I was fascinated by Project Greenlight and watched Season Two religiously. It was both cringe-inducing and hilarious to watch the attached at the hip twin directors fumble over each shot - at one point the two of them were directing Shia LaBeouf from both the driver and passenger side windows of a prop car at the same time. I was also fascinated that the producers of the show chose The Battle of Shaker Heights, which plays like an earnest after school special, as a feature film project. Failure was eminent and predicable. I learned two things from Project Greenlight: nobody knows anything and the best way to make it in Hollywood is to know or be related to somebody - their most successful film came from John Gulager who is the son of character actor Clu Gulager. Oh, yeah, I learned one more thing: when all else fails, make some schlock. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... wrote: Where Are They Now - Project Greenlight Winnershttp://www.yesbutnobutyes.com/archives/2009/05/where_are_they_41.html Posted by Jellio http://www.yesbutnobutyes.com/archives/authors/jellio 2 Commentshttp://www.yesbutnobutyes.com/archives/2009/05/where_are_they_41.html#comments [image: PGFinal.jpg] I'm not sure what made me think of Project Greenlighthttp://www.hbo.com/greenlight/, recently. Was it last week's opening of the Tribeca Film Festivalhttp://www.tribecafilm.com/festival/that made me think of the HBO competition from a few years back? Or maybe it was the sudden reemergence of Ben Affleck, in films like State of Play, and Extract http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzJI08YUNik (which looks pretty funny). Or maybe it was the Matt Damon cameohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZMX1vfrlYwduring Finding Forrester (he does alot of those). Oh well, whatever it was, now that I've got it in my head, I'll have to look all over the Internet, or at least Wikipediahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Greenlight, to find out if the winners ever went on to bigger and better things. *Season One - Stolen Summer* [image: StolenSummerFinal.jpg] *Description:* In its premiere season, Project Greenlight producers received 7,000 screenplays, with the top prize going to filmmaker *Pete Jones *for Stolen Summer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2VhIp2q5tY, the story of a Catholic boy who tries to convert his terminally ill Jewish friend (Wow...can you believe it only made $134,000) The HBO behind-the-scenes series focused on the day-to-day struggles of a director who was clearly over his head, and the hilarious confrontations that followed. *Cast:* Aidan Quinn, Bonnie Hunt, Kevin Pollak, Brian Dennehy *Where Is He Now?* After Stolen Summer, Jones wrote, directed and starred in Outing Riley http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTZwGePZRe8, the story of a regular Joe who comes out to his drinking buddies. The film was praised by the Gay and Lesbian Alliance, but didn't get much traction beyond that. But in 2005, Jones wrote Hall Pass http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0480687/, the story of man whose wife gives him permission to sleep around (sounds believable), and it was actually purchasedhttp://movies.about.com/od/moviesinproduction/a/hallpass091905.htmby the Farrelly Brothers. He also had a role in My Big Fat Independent Movie http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvipnU9IjzM, but I'm sure he wants to forget that. He's probably hoping the Farrellys finally decide to make Hall Pass their next Something About Mary. *Season Two - The Battle of Shaker Heights* [image: ShakerHeightsFinal.jpg] *Description:* In season two, the competition was split into writing and directing categories, presumably to foster some good fight scenes between the directors, and writer whose work they were butchering. *Erica Beeney *won the writing competition with The Battle of Shaker Heightshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl-GC7JiVZM, and *Kyle Rankin *and *Efram Potelle *were chosen to direct. As I think back, the one thing I remember most about this season was continually asking, Shia who? I don't say that anymore. *Cast:* Shia LaBeouf, Amy Smart, Kathleen Quinlan, William Sadler *Where Are They Now?* Kyle Rankin and Efram Potelle's production company, Newborn Pictures http://www.newbornpix.com/ went on to produce classics like InSex and a web series called HellHoleshttp://www.atom.com/funny_videos/hellholes/, the story of a hapless drifter who buys a new home for a dollar, only to discover he's purchased a portal to Hell (I don't know about you, but I think I have to see this flick). And the only thing I can find on writer Erica Beeneyhttp://www.allbusiness.com/services/amusement-recreation-services/4383737-1.htmlis that she worked on some television pilots, including Ice Road Truckers. (Please insert long cold rode to stardom joke here) *Season Three - Feast* [image: FeastFinal.jpg] *Description:* HBO gives up on its baby, and Bravo picks up the third and
[scifinoir2] Re: Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick
Going with a comic actor is not a bad idea. Bixby was known primarily as a comic actor when he became David Bruce Banner. Ditto for Michael Keaton when he became the Batman. When you mentioned Jon Cryer my brain went even further out on a limb and thought David Spade. (So sue me). ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: I've never seen Cryer do drama, just offered up his physical characteristics. Then again, Bill Bixby was a handsome man who wasn't physically frail, but he was an effective David Banner because of his acting ability. He wasn't the weakling of Banner in the comics, but he was a very soft-spoken, gentle soul who worked very well as Banner in the series. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 6:15:17 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick I agree, They need an Ed Begley Jr. type actor. Basically someone that does not have that strong physical look and more like a doctor. I don't think John Cryer would be able to pull off the transformation scenes. On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: They need to quit worrying about name actors and just get an actor who looks and can play the part. Eric Bana was way too buff and handsome for Banner. Norton was probably closer, but his almost Shakespearean intensity was a bit too much for the skinny, unsure, milksop that is Bruce Banner. I think Phoenix would come off too much like a crazed mad scientist than the puny Banner we need. Cast the net far and wide to find the right man, and notoriety be hanged! That's the damn problem with H'Wood all the time. Someone who looks the part, for example, would be Jon Cryer, the whiny brother on Two and A Half Men. Not saying he *should* do it, but that's the *look* you need for Banner-someone who looks soft and weak, as if he's never seen the sun or the inside of a gym. - Original Message - From: Daryle Lockhart dar...@... So now I'm hearing they're talking seriously to Joaquin Phoenix. Which is both awesome and frightening at the same time to me. * On Jul 12, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Cinque B wrote: Marvel: Norton Won't Return As Hulk For 'Avengers'; Norton's Rep Responds Source: Access Hollywood Sun Jul 11, 2010, 8:15 pm EDT Edward Norton won't be reprising his role as the Incredible Hulk in 2012's The Avengers, a Marvel rep confirmed to Access Hollywood on Sunday. Marvel Studios president of production Kevin Feige explained the decision in a statement to HitFix . VIEW THE PHOTOS: Edward Norton We have made the decision to not bring Ed Norton back to portray the title role of Bruce Banner in 'The Avengers,' Feige told the site. Our decision is definitely not one based on monetary factors, but instead rooted in the need for an actor who embodies the creativity and collaborative spirit of our other talented cast members. 'The Avengers' demands players who thrive working as part of an ensemble, as evidenced by Robert, Chris H, Chris E, Sam, Scarlett, and all of our talented casts. We are looking to announce a name actor who fulfills these requirements, and is passionate about the iconic role in the coming weeks. The actors referred to in the statement include current Marvel stars Robert Downey Jr. ( Iron Man ), Chris Hemsworth (Thor), Chris Evans (Captain America: The First Avenger), Samuel L. Jackson (Nick Fury), Scarlett Johansson ( Iron Man 2's Black Widow), who are expected to reprise their superhero roles in team-up film The Avengers. VIEW THE PHOTOS: Scenes From â The Incredible Hulk â A rep for Norton responded to the statement to Hitfix on Sunday, calling it purposefully misleading and claiming that his client had been in discussions to return to the role. This offensive statement from Kevin Feige at Marvel is a purposefully misleading, inappropriate attempt to paint our client in a negative light, the rep told the site. Here are the facts: two months ago, Kevin called me and said he wanted Edward to reprise the role of Bruce Banner in 'The Avengers.' He told me it would be his fantasy to bring Edward on stage with the rest of the cast at [Comic-Con] and make it the event of the convention. When I said that Edward was definitely open to this idea, Kevin was very excited and we agreed that Edward should meet with [director] Joss Whedon to discuss the project. Edward and Joss had a very good meeting (confirmed by Feige to me) at which Edward said he was enthusiastic at the prospect of being a part of the ensemble cast. However, the rep further claimed, the talks fell apart last week.
[scifinoir2] Man builds War Machine suit
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[scifinoir2] Re: ATT may also lose AMC
As I stated earlier, this may come to past as there will be nowhere near the clamor there was when the House of the Mouse threatened to pull, at different junctures, ESPN and the Disney Channels. ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... wrote: I just caught a commercial on AMC stating that ATT may lose AMC as well. Looks like they are trying to pull all of the good channels from ATT.
[scifinoir2] Re: Upgraded to 21st Century TV and Now Wonder
I am holding on to my land line simply because I had a handset on every level of my house and I never have to look for a phone. Regarding a sci-fi channel, there is nowhere near enough programing, at least not on the level of the treasure trove of western programing Encore's Western Channel has at its disposal. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Bosco Bosco ironpi...@... wrote: So last week after noticing I hadn't actually used my home phone in more than 7 months, I decided to ditch it. I upgraded my ATT Uverse package and now have actual pay programing which is costing me less than the previous package. I was unfamiliar with the encore and starz end of the cable spectrum as I have never had premium channels before. They have western, action, mystery and other genre channels that are none to shabby. I have to wonder why they don't have a sci-fi or speculative fiction channel. It seems a natural. Surely there is bandwidth and programming available? Or am I missing something? Bosco
[scifinoir2] Re: Top 10 Evil Human Experiments
Wow. I opened this up thinking it was Top 10 FICTIONAL Evil Human Experiments. Ain't no party like a REAL Top 10 Fictional Evil Human Experiment list. ~rave? --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... wrote: http://listverse.com/2008/03/14/top-10-evil-human-experiments/Top 10 Evil Human Experiments Share This javascript:void(0)- Published March 14, 2008 - 343 Commentshttp://listverse.com/2008/03/14/top-10-evil-human-experiments/#idc-container *[WARNING] This list contains descriptions and images of human experimentation which may cause offense to some readers.]* Human experimentation and research ethics evolved over time. On occasion, the subjects of human experimentation have been prisoners, slaves, or even family http://listverse.com/2008/03/14/top-10-evil-human-experiments/#members. In some notable cases, doctors have performed experiments on themselves when they have been unwilling to risk the lives of others. This is known as self-experimentation. This is a list of the 10 most evil and unethical experiments carried out on humans. 10 Stanford Prison Experiment [image: Stanford Prison] The Stanford prison experiment was a psychologicalhttp://listverse.com/2008/03/14/top-10-evil-human-experiments/#study of human responses to captivity and its behavioral effects on both authorities and inmates in prison. The experiment was conducted in 1971 by a team of researchers led by psychologist Philip Zimbardo at Stanford University. Undergraduate volunteers played the roles of both guards and prisoners living in a mock prison in the basement of the Stanford psychology building. Prisoners and guards rapidly adapted to their roles, stepping beyond the boundaries of what had been predicted and leading to dangerous and psychologically damaging situations. One-third of the guards were judged to have exhibited âgenuineâ sadistic tendencies, while many prisoners were emotionally traumatized and two had to be removed from the experiment early. Finally, Zimbardo, alarmed at the increasingly abusive anti-social behavior from his subjects, terminated the entire experiment early. 9 The Monster Study [image: Stuttering] The Monster Study was a stuttering experiment on 22 orphan childrenhttp://listverse.com/2008/03/14/top-10-evil-human-experiments/#in Davenport, Iowa, in 1939 conducted by Wendell Johnson at the University of Iowa. Johnson chose one of his graduate students, Mary Tudor, to conduct the experiment and he supervised her research. After placing the children in control and experimental groups, Tudor gave positive speech therapy to half of the children, praising the fluency of their speech, and negative speech therapy to the other half, belittling the children for every speech imperfection and telling them they were stutterers. Many of the normal speaking orphan children who received negative therapy in the experiment suffered negative psychological effects and some retained speech problems during the course of their life. Dubbed âThe Monster Studyâ by some of Johnsonâs peers who were horrified that he would experiment on orphan children to prove a theory, the experiment was kept hidden for fear Johnsonâs reputation would be tarnished in the wake of human experiments conducted by the Nazis during World War II. The University of Iowa publicly apologized for the Monster Study in 2001. 8 Project 4.1 [image: 300Px-Project 4.1 Figures] Project 4.1 was the designation for a medical study conducted by the United States of those residents of the Marshall Islands exposed to radioactive fallout from the March 1, 1954 Castle Bravo nuclear test at Bikini Atoll, which had an unexpectedly large yield. For the first decade after the test, the effects were ambiguous and statistically difficult to correlate to radiation exposure: miscarriages and stillbirths among exposed Rongelap women doubled in the first five years after the accident, but then returned to normal; some developmental difficulties and impaired growth appeared in children, but in no clear-cut pattern. In the decades that followed, though, the effects were undeniable. Children began to suffer disproportionately from thyroid cancerhttp://listverse.com/2008/03/14/top-10-evil-human-experiments/#(due to exposure to radioiodines), and almost a third of those exposed developed neoplasms by 1974. As a Department of Energyhttp://listverse.com/2008/03/14/top-10-evil-human-experiments/#Committee writing on the human radiation experiments wrote, âIt appears to have been almost immediately apparent to the AEC and the Joint Task Force running the Castle series that research on radiation effects could be done in conjunction with the medical treatment of the exposed populations.â The DOE report also concluded that âThe dual purpose of what is now a DOE medical program has led to a view by the Marshallese that they were being used as âguinea
Re: [scifinoir2] Dude builds entire Iron Man suit (7 Photos)
I hope that he doesn't get drunk and gets into a bar fight. Someone could hurt their hand. ;) On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 4:57 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: Guy deserves that brewski at the end. He done good... On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 7:51 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: Dude builds entire Iron Man suit (7 Photos)http://thechive.com/2010/01/06/dude-constructs-entire-iron-man-suit/ Author: John http://thechive.com/author/jresig/ - links http://thechive.com/category/links [image: iron man new Dude builds entire Iron Man suit (7 Photos)]http://thechive.com/2010/01/06/dude-constructs-entire-iron-man-suit Edit: Apparently that’s War Machine, not Iron Man, however I’m not changing the title ’cause I’m drinking Jack Daniels at the moment. Continue with your nerdgasms… [image: iron man pics 41 Dude builds entire Iron Man suit (7 Photos)]http://thechive.com/2010/01/06/dude-constructs-entire-iron-man-suit/iron-man-pics-4-2/ [image: iron man pics 01 Dude builds entire Iron Man suit (7 Photos)]http://thechive.com/2010/01/06/dude-constructs-entire-iron-man-suit/iron-man-pics-0-2/ [image: iron man pics 11 Dude builds entire Iron Man suit (7 Photos)]http://thechive.com/2010/01/06/dude-constructs-entire-iron-man-suit/iron-man-pics-1-2/ [image: iron man pics 21 Dude builds entire Iron Man suit (7 Photos)]http://thechive.com/2010/01/06/dude-constructs-entire-iron-man-suit/iron-man-pics-2-2/ [image: iron man suit1 Dude builds entire Iron Man suit (7 Photos)]http://thechive.com/2010/01/06/dude-constructs-entire-iron-man-suit/iron-man-suit-2/ [image: iron man pics 51 Dude builds entire Iron Man suit (7 Photos)]http://thechive.com/2010/01/06/dude-constructs-entire-iron-man-suit/iron-man-pics-5-2/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Top 10 Evil Human Experiments
I strongly believe that this is a prolonged stage of human development. We will eventually evolve out of this stage into a more enlightened one. (I hope.) On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 3:40 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: Ain't humanity WONDERFUL? Martin (needs t get around to hacking the DoD to launch everything and end this vale of tears) On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 3:28 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: http://listverse.com/2008/03/14/top-10-evil-human-experiments/ Top 10 Evil Human Experiments Share This- Published March 14, 2008 - 343 Commentshttp://listverse.com/2008/03/14/top-10-evil-human-experiments/#idc-container *[WARNING] This list contains descriptions and images of human experimentation which may cause offense to some readers.]* Human experimentation and research ethics evolved over time. On occasion, the subjects of human experimentation have been prisoners, slaves, or even family http://listverse.com/2008/03/14/top-10-evil-human-experiments/#members. In some notable cases, doctors have performed experiments on themselves when they have been unwilling to risk the lives of others. This is known as self-experimentation. This is a list of the 10 most evil and unethical experiments carried out on humans. 10 Stanford Prison Experiment [image: Stanford Prison] The Stanford prison experiment was a psychologicalhttp://listverse.com/2008/03/14/top-10-evil-human-experiments/#study of human responses to captivity and its behavioral effects on both authorities and inmates in prison. The experiment was conducted in 1971 by a team of researchers led by psychologist Philip Zimbardo at Stanford University. Undergraduate volunteers played the roles of both guards and prisoners living in a mock prison in the basement of the Stanford psychology building. Prisoners and guards rapidly adapted to their roles, stepping beyond the boundaries of what had been predicted and leading to dangerous and psychologically damaging situations. One-third of the guards were judged to have exhibited “genuine” sadistic tendencies, while many prisoners were emotionally traumatized and two had to be removed from the experiment early. Finally, Zimbardo, alarmed at the increasingly abusive anti-social behavior from his subjects, terminated the entire experiment early. 9 The Monster Study [image: Stuttering] The Monster Study was a stuttering experiment on 22 orphan childrenhttp://listverse.com/2008/03/14/top-10-evil-human-experiments/#in Davenport, Iowa, in 1939 conducted by Wendell Johnson at the University of Iowa. Johnson chose one of his graduate students, Mary Tudor, to conduct the experiment and he supervised her research. After placing the children in control and experimental groups, Tudor gave positive speech therapy to half of the children, praising the fluency of their speech, and negative speech therapy to the other half, belittling the children for every speech imperfection and telling them they were stutterers. Many of the normal speaking orphan children who received negative therapy in the experiment suffered negative psychological effects and some retained speech problems during the course of their life. Dubbed “The Monster Study” by some of Johnson’s peers who were horrified that he would experiment on orphan children to prove a theory, the experiment was kept hidden for fear Johnson’s reputation would be tarnished in the wake of human experiments conducted by the Nazis during World War II. The University of Iowa publicly apologized for the Monster Study in 2001. 8 Project 4.1 [image: 300Px-Project 4.1 Figures] Project 4.1 was the designation for a medical study conducted by the United States of those residents of the Marshall Islands exposed to radioactive fallout from the March 1, 1954 Castle Bravo nuclear test at Bikini Atoll, which had an unexpectedly large yield. For the first decade after the test, the effects were ambiguous and statistically difficult to correlate to radiation exposure: miscarriages and stillbirths among exposed Rongelap women doubled in the first five years after the accident, but then returned to normal; some developmental difficulties and impaired growth appeared in children, but in no clear-cut pattern. In the decades that followed, though, the effects were undeniable. Children began to suffer disproportionately from thyroid cancerhttp://listverse.com/2008/03/14/top-10-evil-human-experiments/#(due to exposure to radioiodines), and almost a third of those exposed developed neoplasms by 1974. As a Department of Energyhttp://listverse.com/2008/03/14/top-10-evil-human-experiments/#Committee writing on the human radiation experiments wrote, “It appears to have been almost immediately apparent to the AEC and the Joint Task Force running the Castle series that research on radiation effects could be done in conjunction with the medical treatment of the exposed populations.”
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Upgraded to 21st Century TV and Now Wonder
Folks should remember that in case of an emergency the land phone lines will probably be up faster than anything else. On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 5:16 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: I am holding on to my land line simply because I had a handset on every level of my house and I never have to look for a phone. Regarding a sci-fi channel, there is nowhere near enough programing, at least not on the level of the treasure trove of western programing Encore's Western Channel has at its disposal. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Bosco Bosco ironpi...@... wrote: So last week after noticing I hadn't actually used my home phone in more than 7 months, I decided to ditch it. I upgraded my ATT Uverse package and now have actual pay programing which is costing me less than the previous package. I was unfamiliar with the encore and starz end of the cable spectrum as I have never had premium channels before. They have western, action, mystery and other genre channels that are none to shabby. I have to wonder why they don't have a sci-fi or speculative fiction channel. It seems a natural. Surely there is bandwidth and programming available? Or am I missing something? Bosco Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo! Groups Links -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] ATT may also lose AMC
That's too bad. You missed out on a couple of good shows such as Mad Men. On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 3:42 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: Mr Worf, in all honesty, I wouldn't count AMC as a loss. I haven't put my TV there in three years. On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 12:37 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote: I just caught a commercial on AMC stating that ATT may lose AMC as well. Looks like they are trying to pull all of the good channels from ATT. -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
[scifinoir2] Re: 10 Extremely Weird Religions
The 70's were a very fertile decade for crack-pot religions - as were the end of the first millennium and the middle-ages. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... wrote: http://listverse.com/2009/09/10/10-extremely-weird-religions/Originally, I wasn't going to post this, but I noticed that 2 of the groups were African American. 10 Extremely Weird Religions Share This javascript:void(0)- Published September 10, 2009 by *JFrater* - 318 Commentshttp://listverse.com/2009/09/10/10-extremely-weird-religions/#idc-container We have previously published a variety of lists on strange religious practices http://listverse.com/2007/08/13/10-weird-religious-practices/, religions you never knew existedhttp://listverse.com/2008/07/08/top-10-religions-you-never-knew-existed/, and weird cults http://listverse.com/2007/09/15/top-10-cults/, but not a list of bizarre religions. This list is designed to fill the gap by discussing ten religions that most of us have not heard of (for good reason as you will see). Be sure to use the comments to tell us about any other bizarre religions and, especially, your own experiences of them. 10 Scientology [image: Scientology1-2]http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/scientology1-2.jpg Scientology has featured on a previous list, but if I didnât include it here the comments would be inundated with âwhereâs scientology?â questions. The Church of Scientology is a cult created by L Ron Hubbard (Elron) in 1952 as an outgrowth of his earlier self-help system called Dianetics. The Church of Scientology holds that at the higher levels of initiation (OT levels) mystical teachings are imparted that may be harmful to unprepared readers. These teachings are kept secret from members who have not reached these levels. In the OT levels, Hubbard explains how to reverse the effects of past-life trauma patterns that supposedly extend millions of years into the past. Among these advanced teachings is the story of Xenu (sometimes Xemu), introduced as an alien ruler of the âGalactic Confederacy.â According to this story, 75 million years ago Xenu brought billions of people to Earth in spacecraft resembling Douglas DC-8 airliners, stacked them around volcanoes and detonated hydrogen bombs in the volcanoes. The thetans then clustered together, stuck to the bodies of the living, and continue to do this today. Scientologists at advanced levels place considerable emphasis on isolating body thetans and neutralizing their ill effects. 9 Creativity Movement [image: Splc Hale 350X4501]http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/splc_hale_350x4501.jpg The Creativity Movement (formerly known as World Church Of The Creator), is a white separatist organization that advocates the whites-only religion, Creativity. It was also a descriptive phrase used by Ben Klassen, that included all adherents of the religion. The use of the term creator does not refer to a deity, but rather to themselves (white people). Despite the former use of the word Church in its name, the movement is atheistic. Creativity is a White Separatist religion that was founded by Ben Klassen in early 1973 under the name Church of the Creator. After Klassenâs death in 1993, Creativity almost died out as a religion until the New Church of the Creator was established three years later by Matthew F. Hale as its Pontifex Maximus (high priest), until his incarceration in January 2003 for plotting with the movementâs head of security, Anthony Evola (an FBI informant), to murder a federal judge. 8 Thee Temple ov Psychick Youth [image: Picture 2-81]http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/picture-2-81.png Obviously spelling is not a fundamental part of this religion! Thee Temple ov Psychick Youth (TOPY) was founded in 1981 by members of Psychic TVhttp://listverse.com/2009/09/10/10-extremely-weird-religions/#, Coil, Current 93, and a number of other individuals. The ever-evolving network is a loosely federated group of people operating as a unique blend of artistic collective, and practitioners of magic. TOPY is dedicated to the manifestation of magical concepts lacking mysticism or the worship of gods. The group focuses on the psychic and magical aspects of the human brain linked with âguiltless sexualityâ. Throughout its existence, TOPY has been an influential group in the underground Chaos magic scene and in the wider western occult tradition. TOPYâs research has covered both Left-hand path and Right-hand path magick, various elements of psychology, art, music, and a variety of other media. Some of the influences on the network have been Aleister Crowley http://listverse.com/2009/09/10/10-extremely-weird-religions/#, Austin Osman Spare, and Brion Gysin. 7 Nation of Yahweh [image: 1Heavensfamilyufosmall]http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/1heavensfamilyufosmall.jpg The Nation
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Where Are They Now - Project Greenlight Winners
I got the same impression that you did rave. It all kind of comes down to meeting the right person at the right time and throwing your pitch or meeting someone who connects you with someone that is looking to do a project. On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 5:02 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: I was fascinated by Project Greenlight and watched Season Two religiously. It was both cringe-inducing and hilarious to watch the attached at the hip twin directors fumble over each shot - at one point the two of them were directing Shia LaBeouf from both the driver and passenger side windows of a prop car at the same time. I was also fascinated that the producers of the show chose The Battle of Shaker Heights, which plays like an earnest after school special, as a feature film project. Failure was eminent and predicable. I learned two things from Project Greenlight: nobody knows anything and the best way to make it in Hollywood is to know or be related to somebody - their most successful film came from John Gulager who is the son of character actor Clu Gulager. Oh, yeah, I learned one more thing: when all else fails, make some schlock. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... wrote: Where Are They Now - Project Greenlight Winners http://www.yesbutnobutyes.com/archives/2009/05/where_are_they_41.html Posted by Jellio http://www.yesbutnobutyes.com/archives/authors/jellio 2 Comments http://www.yesbutnobutyes.com/archives/2009/05/where_are_they_41.html#comments [image: PGFinal.jpg] I'm not sure what made me think of Project Greenlighthttp://www.hbo.com/greenlight/, recently. Was it last week's opening of the Tribeca Film Festivalhttp://www.tribecafilm.com/festival/that made me think of the HBO competition from a few years back? Or maybe it was the sudden reemergence of Ben Affleck, in films like State of Play, and Extract http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzJI08YUNik (which looks pretty funny). Or maybe it was the Matt Damon cameohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZMX1vfrlYwduring Finding Forrester (he does alot of those). Oh well, whatever it was, now that I've got it in my head, I'll have to look all over the Internet, or at least Wikipediahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Greenlight, to find out if the winners ever went on to bigger and better things. *Season One - Stolen Summer* [image: StolenSummerFinal.jpg] *Description:* In its premiere season, Project Greenlight producers received 7,000 screenplays, with the top prize going to filmmaker *Pete Jones *for Stolen Summer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2VhIp2q5tY, the story of a Catholic boy who tries to convert his terminally ill Jewish friend (Wow...can you believe it only made $134,000) The HBO behind-the-scenes series focused on the day-to-day struggles of a director who was clearly over his head, and the hilarious confrontations that followed. *Cast:* Aidan Quinn, Bonnie Hunt, Kevin Pollak, Brian Dennehy *Where Is He Now?* After Stolen Summer, Jones wrote, directed and starred in Outing Riley http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTZwGePZRe8, the story of a regular Joe who comes out to his drinking buddies. The film was praised by the Gay and Lesbian Alliance, but didn't get much traction beyond that. But in 2005, Jones wrote Hall Pass http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0480687/, the story of man whose wife gives him permission to sleep around (sounds believable), and it was actually purchased http://movies.about.com/od/moviesinproduction/a/hallpass091905.htmby the Farrelly Brothers. He also had a role in My Big Fat Independent Movie http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvipnU9IjzM, but I'm sure he wants to forget that. He's probably hoping the Farrellys finally decide to make Hall Pass their next Something About Mary. *Season Two - The Battle of Shaker Heights* [image: ShakerHeightsFinal.jpg] *Description:* In season two, the competition was split into writing and directing categories, presumably to foster some good fight scenes between the directors, and writer whose work they were butchering. *Erica Beeney *won the writing competition with The Battle of Shaker Heightshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl-GC7JiVZM, and *Kyle Rankin *and *Efram Potelle *were chosen to direct. As I think back, the one thing I remember most about this season was continually asking, Shia who? I don't say that anymore. *Cast:* Shia LaBeouf, Amy Smart, Kathleen Quinlan, William Sadler *Where Are They Now?* Kyle Rankin and Efram Potelle's production company, Newborn Pictures http://www.newbornpix.com/ went on to produce classics like InSex and a web series called HellHoles http://www.atom.com/funny_videos/hellholes/, the story of a hapless drifter who buys a new home for a dollar, only to discover he's purchased a portal to Hell (I don't know about you, but I think I have to see this flick). And the only thing
Re: [scifinoir2] Tesla May Get Some Company: The Supercar Goes Electric
BMW is also working on a super hybrid as well. They were all pretty much won over a couple of years ago when an electric was entered into one of the road races in Europe. It did extremely well but wasn't allowed to finish. On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 4:05 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: They've got it on the boards right now, I hear. On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 8:36 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: Porchea and Ferrari are both working on one as well. Although I think Ferrari will probably do a hybrid first. On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 3:43 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: I'm impressed. But the Veyron still owns the better part of me. On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote: Tesla May Get Some Company: The Supercar Goes Electric *CHARGE!* SLS AMG E-Cell has an electric motor powering each of the wheels. More Photos »http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2010/07/11/automobiles/autoreviews/20100711-mercedes.html By LAWRENCE ULRICH Published: July 8, 2010 - Facebookhttp://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/11/automobiles/11ELECTRIC.html?_r=1# - Twitter - Recommend - Sign In to E-Mailhttp://www.nytimes.com/auth/login?URI=http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/11/automobiles/11ELECTRIC.html - Printhttp://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/11/automobiles/11ELECTRIC.html?_r=1pagewanted=print - Reprintshttp://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/11/automobiles/11ELECTRIC.html?_r=1# - Sharehttp://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/11/automobiles/11ELECTRIC.html?_r=1# Closehttp://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/11/automobiles/11ELECTRIC.html?_r=1# - Linkedinhttp://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/11/automobiles/11ELECTRIC.html?_r=1# - Digghttp://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/11/automobiles/11ELECTRIC.html?_r=1# - Mixxhttp://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/11/automobiles/11ELECTRIC.html?_r=1# - MySpacehttp://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/11/automobiles/11ELECTRIC.html?_r=1# - Yahoo! Buzzhttp://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/11/automobiles/11ELECTRIC.html?_r=1# - Permalinkhttp://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/11/automobiles/11ELECTRIC.html?_r=1# - http://www.nytimes.com/adx/bin/adx_click.html?type=gotoopznpage=www.nytimes.com/yr/mo/day/automobilespos=Frame4Asn2=7da8705c/b3e9b981sn1=d03db86c/2f814a4ecamp=foxsearch2010_emailtools_1225558c_nyt5ad=Cyrus_120x60_NowPlaying_06.18goto=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Efoxsearchlight%2Ecom%2Fcyrus INTRODUCED in New York in 1954, the Mercedes-Benz 300SL was a stunningly advanced machine, the first production car to trade a carburetor for fuel injection. Multimedia Slide Show http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2010/07/11/automobiles/autoreviews/20100711-mercedes.html?ref=automobiles 2011 Mercedes-Benz SLS AMGhttp://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2010/07/11/automobiles/autoreviews/20100711-mercedes.html?ref=automobiles Related - Behind the Wheel | 2011 Mercedes-Benz Sls Amg: Winging It One More Timehttp://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/11/automobiles/autoreviews/11WHEEL.html?ref=automobiles(July 11, 2010) Now, with the SLS AMG echoing the style of that original gullwing sports car, Mercedes may produce an electric version that could give the company environmental bragging rights. Mercedes is testing the prototype SLS AMG E-Cell, in which the standard model’s 563-horsepower gasoline V-8 has been replaced with four electric motors, one powering each wheel, that spool up 535 horsepower and 649 pound-feet of peak torque. Mercedes estimates a 0-to-60 time of four seconds flat for the electric SLS, just a few tenths slower than the gasoline version. Power is stored in a liquid-cooled lithiumhttp://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/subjects/l/lithium_metal/index.html?inline=nyt-classifier-ion battery; brakes capture energy and return it to the battery. Ola Kallenius, chairman of Mercedes’s AMG high-performance division, said the company was considering a small production run for the SLS E-Cell. At a recent presentation for the car in Norway, a retired Formula Onehttp://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/f/formula_one/index.html?inline=nyt-orgracer, David Coulthard, tested the E-Cell on an airstrip and public roads. His drive and commentary were documented on Web video. “My first experience of an electric carhttp://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/subjects/e/electric_vehicles/index.html?inline=nyt-classifier,” Mr. Coulthard said, emerging from the E-Cell with a grin. “You will not believe the performance.” The E-Cell, along with cars like the new S400 hybrid sedan, shows Mercedes shifting more of its renowned technical resources toward increasing fuel economy and developing alternative propulsion systems. Mercedes, which has paid more than $300 million in federal fines since 1983 for falling short of fuel-economy standards — thanks largely to its fuel-sucking AMG models — has vowed to improve
Re: [scifinoir2] Top 10 Errors in Science Fiction Movies
They kind of left out the incredible problems with diseases that could be transmitted by human / alien contact. Just breathing on an alien (or a human with no immune system) is a death sentence. On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 3:55 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: Mr Worf, this goes back to the lack of science advisers in SF movies. Again, blame H'Wood. I do. On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 6:52 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: Top 10 Errors in Science Fiction Movies Share This- Published November 23, 2007 - 5500249 Comments http://listverse.com/2007/11/23/top-10-errors-in-science-fiction-movies/ Top+10+Errors+in+Science+Fiction+Movies2007-11-23+11%3A22%3A44jfraterhttp://listverse.com/2007/11/23/top-10-errors-in-science-fiction-movies/#comments Science Fiction movies are great for expanding the mind and showing us things we may never get to see in real life. Unfortunately though, they all seem to make the same fundamental errors regarding true science. This is a list of the top 10 errors in Science Fiction movies. 10. Simplicity [image: 574Px-M87 Jet]http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/574px-m87-jet.jpg This is less a crime of commission than one of omission. Space is full of wonders we cannot even begin to understand, yet most science fiction films are based in a very simplistic environment and do not even begin to investigate the wonderful possibilities that science fiction offers us. We don’t see interplanetary tunnels, aliens on planets around pulsars, creatures living on dead suns, alien life forms that inhabit the edges of supermassive black holes, or so many of the other thought provoking scenarios. Let’s spice up our science fiction movies! 9. Simplistic Planets [image: 133946 Tatooine L]http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/133946-tatooine-l.jpg This is particularly evident in the Star Wars movies. Whenever a planet is introduced in a science fiction film, it has one equal ecological system across the entire planet – for example, it might be entirely covered in snow – or entirely covered in sand. If people are living on these planets, they must be providing water and other important things needed for survival. This, in turn, would suggest that the planet ought to have a well developed complex ecosystem which varies from region to region – for example ice at the poles and arid land at the center (this is just an example of course). 8. Alien / Human Breeding [image: Spock-1]http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/spock-1.jpg This is often seen in Star Trek – for example Spock – he was half human and half Vulcan. It is not even possible for human/ape crossbreeds to occur due to genetic differences, it is inconceivable that a human and an alien might be able to crossbreed. There are, of course, additional problems: how do you perform the cross breeding if the alien does not have sexual organs or the means to extract the necessary seeds of life? 7. Alien / Human communication [image: Dish] http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/dish.jpg If aliens did exist, it would be extremely unlikely that we could communicate with them in a very short amount of time. In addition to the regular problems in translating an entirely unknown language, we would also have to consider a society that probably involves concepts we do not understand at all. Imagine an alien race trying to understand God if they have never had a notion of religion in their society. Of course, none of this matters if the aliens communicate with their minds or non-audible means – it would be impossible for us to communicate at all with a race that has no concept of sight and sound. 6. Instant Communications [image: Contact Large 15]http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/contact-large-15.jpg Even if we did use light particles/waves to transmit radio data, the vast distances in space would make instant radio communication impossible. A rare exception to this flaw is in the movie Contact; as the camera draws away from the earth we hear the radio emanations getting progressively older until you finally reach silence. This trick is very effectively used to show just how massive space is. 5. Humanoid Aliens [image: Aliennewstag7]http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/aliennewstag7.jpg This is endemic on the various Star Trek series, where creatures from entirely different sectors of the Universe look just like Humans except for the occasional bulging ridge on their foreheads, etc. Humans evolved on earth in order to meet a very specific criteria for survival – the presumption that this is true of all other planets is ridiculous. 4. Explosions in Space [image: Explosion2004]http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/explosion2004.jpg Unfortunately virtually every science fiction movie makes this error – in fact, in the vacuum of outer space, there can be no flames (as flames need oxygen)
[scifinoir2] Re: Dude builds entire Iron Man suit (7 Photos)
Looks like the kinda dude you can sit down and have a beer with. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... wrote: Dude builds entire Iron Man suit (7 Photos)http://thechive.com/2010/01/06/dude-constructs-entire-iron-man-suit/ Author: John http://thechive.com/author/jresig/ - links http://thechive.com/category/links [image: iron man new Dude builds entire Iron Man suit (7 Photos)]http://thechive.com/2010/01/06/dude-constructs-entire-iron-man-suit Edit: Apparently thatâs War Machine, not Iron Man, however Iâm not changing the title âcause Iâm drinking Jack Daniels at the moment. Continue with your nerdgasms⦠[image: iron man pics 41 Dude builds entire Iron Man suit (7 Photos)]http://thechive.com/2010/01/06/dude-constructs-entire-iron-man-suit/iron-man-pics-4-2/ [image: iron man pics 01 Dude builds entire Iron Man suit (7 Photos)]http://thechive.com/2010/01/06/dude-constructs-entire-iron-man-suit/iron-man-pics-0-2/ [image: iron man pics 11 Dude builds entire Iron Man suit (7 Photos)]http://thechive.com/2010/01/06/dude-constructs-entire-iron-man-suit/iron-man-pics-1-2/ [image: iron man pics 21 Dude builds entire Iron Man suit (7 Photos)]http://thechive.com/2010/01/06/dude-constructs-entire-iron-man-suit/iron-man-pics-2-2/ [image: iron man suit1 Dude builds entire Iron Man suit (7 Photos)]http://thechive.com/2010/01/06/dude-constructs-entire-iron-man-suit/iron-man-suit-2/ [image: iron man pics 51 Dude builds entire Iron Man suit (7 Photos)]http://thechive.com/2010/01/06/dude-constructs-entire-iron-man-suit/iron-man-pics-5-2/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
[scifinoir2] Re: Where Are They Now - Project Greenlight Winners
Feast was one of the most fun, low budget horror movies I've seen in a long time. I had a Halloween double feature of Feast and Slither the year they came out and we had a ball. The sequels are in my Netflix queue. I liked the show quite a bit and I'm glad the third season winner was something beyond the typical indie fare. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... wrote: I got the same impression that you did rave. It all kind of comes down to meeting the right person at the right time and throwing your pitch or meeting someone who connects you with someone that is looking to do a project. On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 5:02 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@... wrote: I was fascinated by Project Greenlight and watched Season Two religiously. It was both cringe-inducing and hilarious to watch the attached at the hip twin directors fumble over each shot - at one point the two of them were directing Shia LaBeouf from both the driver and passenger side windows of a prop car at the same time. I was also fascinated that the producers of the show chose The Battle of Shaker Heights, which plays like an earnest after school special, as a feature film project. Failure was eminent and predicable. I learned two things from Project Greenlight: nobody knows anything and the best way to make it in Hollywood is to know or be related to somebody - their most successful film came from John Gulager who is the son of character actor Clu Gulager. Oh, yeah, I learned one more thing: when all else fails, make some schlock. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ wrote: Where Are They Now - Project Greenlight Winners http://www.yesbutnobutyes.com/archives/2009/05/where_are_they_41.html Posted by Jellio http://www.yesbutnobutyes.com/archives/authors/jellio 2 Comments http://www.yesbutnobutyes.com/archives/2009/05/where_are_they_41.html#comments [image: PGFinal.jpg] I'm not sure what made me think of Project Greenlighthttp://www.hbo.com/greenlight/, recently. Was it last week's opening of the Tribeca Film Festivalhttp://www.tribecafilm.com/festival/that made me think of the HBO competition from a few years back? Or maybe it was the sudden reemergence of Ben Affleck, in films like State of Play, and Extract http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzJI08YUNik (which looks pretty funny). Or maybe it was the Matt Damon cameohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZMX1vfrlYwduring Finding Forrester (he does alot of those). Oh well, whatever it was, now that I've got it in my head, I'll have to look all over the Internet, or at least Wikipediahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Greenlight, to find out if the winners ever went on to bigger and better things. *Season One - Stolen Summer* [image: StolenSummerFinal.jpg] *Description:* In its premiere season, Project Greenlight producers received 7,000 screenplays, with the top prize going to filmmaker *Pete Jones *for Stolen Summer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2VhIp2q5tY, the story of a Catholic boy who tries to convert his terminally ill Jewish friend (Wow...can you believe it only made $134,000) The HBO behind-the-scenes series focused on the day-to-day struggles of a director who was clearly over his head, and the hilarious confrontations that followed. *Cast:* Aidan Quinn, Bonnie Hunt, Kevin Pollak, Brian Dennehy *Where Is He Now?* After Stolen Summer, Jones wrote, directed and starred in Outing Riley http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTZwGePZRe8, the story of a regular Joe who comes out to his drinking buddies. The film was praised by the Gay and Lesbian Alliance, but didn't get much traction beyond that. But in 2005, Jones wrote Hall Pass http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0480687/, the story of man whose wife gives him permission to sleep around (sounds believable), and it was actually purchased http://movies.about.com/od/moviesinproduction/a/hallpass091905.htmby the Farrelly Brothers. He also had a role in My Big Fat Independent Movie http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvipnU9IjzM, but I'm sure he wants to forget that. He's probably hoping the Farrellys finally decide to make Hall Pass their next Something About Mary. *Season Two - The Battle of Shaker Heights* [image: ShakerHeightsFinal.jpg] *Description:* In season two, the competition was split into writing and directing categories, presumably to foster some good fight scenes between the directors, and writer whose work they were butchering. *Erica Beeney *won the writing competition with The Battle of Shaker Heightshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl-GC7JiVZM, and *Kyle Rankin *and *Efram Potelle *were chosen to direct. As I think back, the one thing I remember most about this season was continually asking, Shia who? I don't say that anymore. *Cast:* Shia
Re: [scifinoir2] Man builds War Machine suit
ahar...@earthlink.net WOW! 'Nuff said! Amy From: Mr. Worf Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 8:16 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Man builds War Machine suit Mr.Worf wants to share this great news called Iron Man War Machine in Real Life on DesignersCouch. Please check it here: http://designerscouch.org/show_news/1113/iron-man-war-machine-in-real-life.html Best Regards, DesignersCouch. www.designerscouch.org -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick
The cash is going toward effects. I'm sure Robert Downey Jr. will take % points instead of a salary if his agent had half a brain. I doubt Banner would get much face-time in the Avengers movie anyway. More like Hulk come down this semi so we can attack Galactus. From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, July 13, 2010 2:18:00 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick Keith, if they want flavor-of-the- week, Michael Cera would be a great fit for Banner as well. And the character would have to be written, IMO, the way he's been done post-World War Hulk, after Banner and the Hulk were separated, and Banner became a truly scary bastich who played mind games with everyone around him. On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net wrote: They need to quit worrying about name actors and just get an actor who looks and can play the part. Eric Bana was way too buff and handsome for Banner. Norton was probably closer, but his almost Shakespearean intensity was a bit too much for the skinny, unsure, milksop that is Bruce Banner. I think Phoenix would come off too much like a crazed mad scientist than the puny Banner we need. Cast the net far and wide to find the right man, and notoriety be hanged! That's the damn problem with H'Wood all the time. Someone who looks the part, for example, would be Jon Cryer, the whiny brother on Two and A Half Men. Not saying he *should* do it, but that's the *look* you need for Banner-someone who looks soft and weak, as if he's never seen the sun or the inside of a gym. * * * * - Original Message - From: Daryle Lockhart dar...@darylelockha rt.com So now I'm hearing they're talking seriously to Joaquin Phoenix. Which is both awesome and frightening at the same time to me. * * * * * On Jul 12, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Cinque B wrote: Marvel: Norton Won't Return As Hulk For 'Avengers'; Norton's Rep Responds Source: Access Hollywood Sun Jul 11, 2010, 8:15 pm EDT Edward Norton won't be reprising his role as the Incredible Hulk in 2012's The Avengers, a Marvel rep confirmed to Access Hollywood on Sunday. Marvel Studios president of production Kevin Feige explained the decision in a statement to HitFix. VIEW THE PHOTOS: Edward Norton We have made the decision to not bring Ed Norton back to portray the title role of Bruce Banner in 'The Avengers,' Feige told the site. Our decision is definitely not one based on monetary factors, but instead rooted in the need for an actor who embodies the creativity and collaborative spirit of our other talented cast members. 'The Avengers' demands players who thrive working as part of an ensemble, as evidenced by Robert, Chris H, Chris E, Sam, Scarlett, and all of our talented casts. We are looking to announce a name actor who fulfills these requirements, and is passionate about the iconic role in the coming weeks. The actors referred to in the statement include current Marvel stars Robert Downey Jr. ( Iron Man ), Chris Hemsworth (Thor), Chris Evans (Captain America: The First Avenger), Samuel L. Jackson (Nick Fury), Scarlett Johansson ( Iron Man 2's Black Widow), who are expected to reprise their superhero roles in team-up film The Avengers. VIEW THE PHOTOS: Scenes From ‘ The Incredible Hulk ’ A rep for Norton responded to the statement to Hitfix on Sunday, calling it purposefully misleading and claiming that his client had been in discussions to return to the role. This offensive statement from Kevin Feige at Marvel is a purposefully misleading, inappropriate attempt to paint our client in a negative light, the rep told the site. Here are the facts: two months ago, Kevin called me and said he wanted Edward to reprise the role of Bruce Banner in 'The Avengers.' He told me it would be his fantasy to bring Edward on stage with the rest of the cast at [Comic-Con] and make it the event of the convention. When I said that Edward was definitely open to this idea, Kevin was very excited and we agreed that Edward should meet with [director] Joss Whedon to discuss the project. Edward and Joss had a very good meeting (confirmed by Feige to me) at which Edward said he was enthusiastic at the prospect of being a part of the ensemble cast. However, the rep further claimed, the talks fell apart last week. VIEW THE PHOTOS: Fan Candy : Superheroes, Sci-Fi Beyond ! Marvel subsequently made him a financial offer to be in the film and both sides started negotiating in good faith, he told Hitfix. This past Wednesday, after several weeks of civil, uncontentious discussions, but before we had come to terms on a deal, a representative from Marvel called to say they had decided to go in another direction with the part. This seemed to us to be
Re: [scifinoir2] Kevin Bacon Vs The X-Men?
This has camp ala Punisher-War-Zone' written all over it. From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, July 13, 2010 1:50:40 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Kevin Bacon Vs The X-Men? I could see him playing Henry Gyrich. On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 10:53 PM, brent wodehouse brent_wodehouse@ thefence. us wrote: http://www.empireon line.com/ news/story. asp?NID=28329 12 July 2010 Kevin Bacon Vs The X-Men? In talks for the First Class villain Source: Deadline The cast of Matthew Vaughn’s X-Men: First Class could all see their number in the Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon game go down by a few digits - the actor has been offered the role of the main villain in the movie. While the exact details of the bad guy is unknown, Deadline reports that Bacon is in talks to snatch the role, which would see him facing off against James McAvoy’s Professor Charles Xavier, Michael Fassbender’s Erik Lensherr and the young mutants they’re training to help the world. There has been a flurry of casting on the film in recent weeks, with the likes of Nicholas Hoult (Beast), Caleb Landry Jones (Banshee), Alice Eve (Emma Frost) and Lucas Till (Havoc) all signing on, with the likelihood of a few more to come. With a script re-written by Vaughn and regular collaborator Jane Goldman, X-Men: First Class will start shooting next month. James White -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik
Re: [scifinoir2] Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick
I wonder if Cera might not be a bit too young? I don't follow Hulk. What's up with Banner's behaviour? - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 7:18:00 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick Keith, if they want flavor-of-the-week, Michael Cera would be a great fit for Banner as well. And the character would have to be written, IMO, the way he's been done post-World War Hulk, after Banner and the Hulk were separated, and Banner became a truly scary bastich who played mind games with everyone around him. On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: They need to quit worrying about name actors and just get an actor who looks and can play the part. Eric Bana was way too buff and handsome for Banner. Norton was probably closer, but his almost Shakespearean intensity was a bit too much for the skinny, unsure, milksop that is Bruce Banner. I think Phoenix would come off too much like a crazed mad scientist than the puny Banner we need. Cast the net far and wide to find the right man, and notoriety be hanged! That's the damn problem with H'Wood all the time. Someone who looks the part, for example, would be Jon Cryer, the whiny brother on Two and A Half Men. Not saying he *should* do it, but that's the *look* you need for Banner-someone who looks soft and weak, as if he's never seen the sun or the inside of a gym. - Original Message - From: Daryle Lockhart dar...@darylelockhart.com So now I'm hearing they're talking seriously to Joaquin Phoenix. Which is both awesome and frightening at the same time to me. * On Jul 12, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Cinque B wrote: Marvel: Norton Won't Return As Hulk For 'Avengers'; Norton's Rep Responds Source: Access Hollywood Sun Jul 11, 2010, 8:15 pm EDT Edward Norton won't be reprising his role as the Incredible Hulk in 2012's The Avengers, a Marvel rep confirmed to Access Hollywood on Sunday. Marvel Studios president of production Kevin Feige explained the decision in a statement to HitFix . VIEW THE PHOTOS: Edward Norton We have made the decision to not bring Ed Norton back to portray the title role of Bruce Banner in 'The Avengers,' Feige told the site. Our decision is definitely not one based on monetary factors, but instead rooted in the need for an actor who embodies the creativity and collaborative spirit of our other talented cast members. 'The Avengers' demands players who thrive working as part of an ensemble, as evidenced by Robert, Chris H, Chris E, Sam, Scarlett, and all of our talented casts. We are looking to announce a name actor who fulfills these requirements, and is passionate about the iconic role in the coming weeks. The actors referred to in the statement include current Marvel stars Robert Downey Jr. ( Iron Man ), Chris Hemsworth (Thor), Chris Evans (Captain America: The First Avenger), Samuel L. Jackson (Nick Fury), Scarlett Johansson ( Iron Man 2's Black Widow), who are expected to reprise their superhero roles in team-up film The Avengers. VIEW THE PHOTOS: Scenes From ‘ The Incredible Hulk ’ A rep for Norton responded to the statement to Hitfix on Sunday, calling it purposefully misleading and claiming that his client had been in discussions to return to the role. This offensive statement from Kevin Feige at Marvel is a purposefully misleading, inappropriate attempt to paint our client in a negative light, the rep told the site. Here are the facts: two months ago, Kevin called me and said he wanted Edward to reprise the role of Bruce Banner in 'The Avengers.' He told me it would be his fantasy to bring Edward on stage with the rest of the cast at [Comic-Con] and make it the event of the convention. When I said that Edward was definitely open to this idea, Kevin was very excited and we agreed that Edward should meet with [director] Joss Whedon to discuss the project. Edward and Joss had a very good meeting (confirmed by Feige to me) at which Edward said he was enthusiastic at the prospect of being a part of the ensemble cast. However, the rep further claimed, the talks fell apart last week. VIEW THE PHOTOS: Fan Candy : Superheroes, Sci-Fi Beyond ! Marvel subsequently made him a financial offer to be in the film and both sides started negotiating in good faith, he told Hitfix. This past Wednesday, after several weeks of civil, uncontentious discussions, but before we had come to terms on a deal, a representative from Marvel called to say they had decided to go in another direction with the part. This seemed to us to be a financial decision but, whatever the case, it is completely their prerogative, and we accepted their decision with no hard feelings... We know a lot of
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick
I *really* don't see Spade! Next you'll be recommending Rob Schneider or (shudder!) Paulie Shore! :( - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 8:10:58 AM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick Going with a comic actor is not a bad idea. Bixby was known primarily as a comic actor when he became David Bruce Banner. Ditto for Michael Keaton when he became the Batman. When you mentioned Jon Cryer my brain went even further out on a limb and thought David Spade. (So sue me). ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: I've never seen Cryer do drama, just offered up his physical characteristics. Then again, Bill Bixby was a handsome man who wasn't physically frail, but he was an effective David Banner because of his acting ability. He wasn't the weakling of Banner in the comics, but he was a very soft-spoken, gentle soul who worked very well as Banner in the series. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 6:15:17 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick I agree, They need an Ed Begley Jr. type actor. Basically someone that does not have that strong physical look and more like a doctor. I don't think John Cryer would be able to pull off the transformation scenes. On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: They need to quit worrying about name actors and just get an actor who looks and can play the part. Eric Bana was way too buff and handsome for Banner. Norton was probably closer, but his almost Shakespearean intensity was a bit too much for the skinny, unsure, milksop that is Bruce Banner. I think Phoenix would come off too much like a crazed mad scientist than the puny Banner we need. Cast the net far and wide to find the right man, and notoriety be hanged! That's the damn problem with H'Wood all the time. Someone who looks the part, for example, would be Jon Cryer, the whiny brother on Two and A Half Men. Not saying he *should* do it, but that's the *look* you need for Banner-someone who looks soft and weak, as if he's never seen the sun or the inside of a gym. - Original Message - From: Daryle Lockhart dar...@... So now I'm hearing they're talking seriously to Joaquin Phoenix. Which is both awesome and frightening at the same time to me. * On Jul 12, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Cinque B wrote: Marvel: Norton Won't Return As Hulk For 'Avengers'; Norton's Rep Responds Source: Access Hollywood Sun Jul 11, 2010, 8:15 pm EDT Edward Norton won't be reprising his role as the Incredible Hulk in 2012's The Avengers, a Marvel rep confirmed to Access Hollywood on Sunday. Marvel Studios president of production Kevin Feige explained the decision in a statement to HitFix . VIEW THE PHOTOS: Edward Norton We have made the decision to not bring Ed Norton back to portray the title role of Bruce Banner in 'The Avengers,' Feige told the site. Our decision is definitely not one based on monetary factors, but instead rooted in the need for an actor who embodies the creativity and collaborative spirit of our other talented cast members. 'The Avengers' demands players who thrive working as part of an ensemble, as evidenced by Robert, Chris H, Chris E, Sam, Scarlett, and all of our talented casts. We are looking to announce a name actor who fulfills these requirements, and is passionate about the iconic role in the coming weeks. The actors referred to in the statement include current Marvel stars Robert Downey Jr. ( Iron Man ), Chris Hemsworth (Thor), Chris Evans (Captain America: The First Avenger), Samuel L. Jackson (Nick Fury), Scarlett Johansson ( Iron Man 2's Black Widow), who are expected to reprise their superhero roles in team-up film The Avengers. VIEW THE PHOTOS: Scenes From ‘ The Incredible Hulk ’ A rep for Norton responded to the statement to Hitfix on Sunday, calling it purposefully misleading and claiming that his client had been in discussions to return to the role. This offensive statement from Kevin Feige at Marvel is a purposefully misleading, inappropriate attempt to paint our client in a negative light, the rep told the site. Here are the facts: two months ago, Kevin called me and said he wanted Edward to reprise the role of Bruce Banner in 'The Avengers.' He told me it would be his fantasy to bring Edward on stage with the rest of the cast at [Comic-Con] and make it the event of the convention. When I said that Edward was definitely open to this idea, Kevin was very excited and we
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick
I have no issue with comedic actors though, since H'Wood is replete with comedians who turned out to be amazing dramatic actors: Whoopi Goldberg, Robin Williams, Richard Pryor (who never got a vehicle to showcase how could he could have been dramatically), etc. Many people probably don't know that Eric Bana is really an accomplished comedian with a background that's more reminiscent of old vaudeville than what we see in America nowadays. Movies like the first Hulk, Syrianna, Troy, etc., coupled with his physique and looks, have him labeled as a serious/romantic actor, but comedy is his first gig. Hugh Jackman is the same way. A tall, buff, handsome guy who quickly gets considered for action/dramatic/romantic roles, he's an accomplished song-and-dance man like those of old. I guess I can see why so many Aussie and Brit actors get work in America: it seems more of them still come from the old school systems where they're expected to do plays and learn a bunch of skills for stage as well as just screen. It's why the likes of Patrick Stewart or others can fluidly move from drama to comedy, futuristic scifi to period pieces, TV to movies to one man shows on stage. In America, so many of the up-and-comers want to be famous instantly, they try to jump immediately to movies. - Original Message - From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 12:24:28 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick I *really* don't see Spade! Next you'll be recommending Rob Schneider or (shudder!) Paulie Shore! :( - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 8:10:58 AM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick Going with a comic actor is not a bad idea. Bixby was known primarily as a comic actor when he became David Bruce Banner. Ditto for Michael Keaton when he became the Batman. When you mentioned Jon Cryer my brain went even further out on a limb and thought David Spade. (So sue me). ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: I've never seen Cryer do drama, just offered up his physical characteristics. Then again, Bill Bixby was a handsome man who wasn't physically frail, but he was an effective David Banner because of his acting ability. He wasn't the weakling of Banner in the comics, but he was a very soft-spoken, gentle soul who worked very well as Banner in the series. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 6:15:17 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick I agree, They need an Ed Begley Jr. type actor. Basically someone that does not have that strong physical look and more like a doctor. I don't think John Cryer would be able to pull off the transformation scenes. On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: They need to quit worrying about name actors and just get an actor who looks and can play the part. Eric Bana was way too buff and handsome for Banner. Norton was probably closer, but his almost Shakespearean intensity was a bit too much for the skinny, unsure, milksop that is Bruce Banner. I think Phoenix would come off too much like a crazed mad scientist than the puny Banner we need. Cast the net far and wide to find the right man, and notoriety be hanged! That's the damn problem with H'Wood all the time. Someone who looks the part, for example, would be Jon Cryer, the whiny brother on Two and A Half Men. Not saying he *should* do it, but that's the *look* you need for Banner-someone who looks soft and weak, as if he's never seen the sun or the inside of a gym. - Original Message - From: Daryle Lockhart dar...@... So now I'm hearing they're talking seriously to Joaquin Phoenix. Which is both awesome and frightening at the same time to me. * On Jul 12, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Cinque B wrote: Marvel: Norton Won't Return As Hulk For 'Avengers'; Norton's Rep Responds Source: Access Hollywood Sun Jul 11, 2010, 8:15 pm EDT Edward Norton won't be reprising his role as the Incredible Hulk in 2012's The Avengers, a Marvel rep confirmed to Access Hollywood on Sunday. Marvel Studios president of production Kevin Feige explained the decision in a statement to HitFix . VIEW THE PHOTOS: Edward Norton We have made the decision to not bring Ed Norton back to portray the title role of Bruce Banner in 'The Avengers,' Feige told the site. Our decision is definitely not one based on monetary factors, but instead rooted in the need
[scifinoir2] Re: Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick
Bruce Banner hasn't been the puny Banner stereotype for a long time. Banner is a bit of a snarky so and so and that could lead to some nice exchanges with Downey and Jackson. Norton played him just right but unfortunately he was such a pain to work with he was dropped. Michael Cera is way too young. Jason Bateman on the other hand could be awesome. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: I wonder if Cera might not be a bit too young? I don't follow Hulk. What's up with Banner's behaviour? - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 7:18:00 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick Keith, if they want flavor-of-the-week, Michael Cera would be a great fit for Banner as well. And the character would have to be written, IMO, the way he's been done post-World War Hulk, after Banner and the Hulk were separated, and Banner became a truly scary bastich who played mind games with everyone around him. On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: They need to quit worrying about name actors and just get an actor who looks and can play the part. Eric Bana was way too buff and handsome for Banner. Norton was probably closer, but his almost Shakespearean intensity was a bit too much for the skinny, unsure, milksop that is Bruce Banner. I think Phoenix would come off too much like a crazed mad scientist than the puny Banner we need. Cast the net far and wide to find the right man, and notoriety be hanged! That's the damn problem with H'Wood all the time. Someone who looks the part, for example, would be Jon Cryer, the whiny brother on Two and A Half Men. Not saying he *should* do it, but that's the *look* you need for Banner-someone who looks soft and weak, as if he's never seen the sun or the inside of a gym. - Original Message - From: Daryle Lockhart dar...@... So now I'm hearing they're talking seriously to Joaquin Phoenix. Which is both awesome and frightening at the same time to me. * On Jul 12, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Cinque B wrote: Marvel: Norton Won't Return As Hulk For 'Avengers'; Norton's Rep Responds Source: Access Hollywood Sun Jul 11, 2010, 8:15 pm EDT Edward Norton won't be reprising his role as the Incredible Hulk in 2012's The Avengers, a Marvel rep confirmed to Access Hollywood on Sunday. Marvel Studios president of production Kevin Feige explained the decision in a statement to HitFix . VIEW THE PHOTOS: Edward Norton We have made the decision to not bring Ed Norton back to portray the title role of Bruce Banner in 'The Avengers,' Feige told the site. Our decision is definitely not one based on monetary factors, but instead rooted in the need for an actor who embodies the creativity and collaborative spirit of our other talented cast members. 'The Avengers' demands players who thrive working as part of an ensemble, as evidenced by Robert, Chris H, Chris E, Sam, Scarlett, and all of our talented casts. We are looking to announce a name actor who fulfills these requirements, and is passionate about the iconic role in the coming weeks. The actors referred to in the statement include current Marvel stars Robert Downey Jr. ( Iron Man ), Chris Hemsworth (Thor), Chris Evans (Captain America: The First Avenger), Samuel L. Jackson (Nick Fury), Scarlett Johansson ( Iron Man 2's Black Widow), who are expected to reprise their superhero roles in team-up film The Avengers. VIEW THE PHOTOS: Scenes From â The Incredible Hulk â A rep for Norton responded to the statement to Hitfix on Sunday, calling it purposefully misleading and claiming that his client had been in discussions to return to the role. This offensive statement from Kevin Feige at Marvel is a purposefully misleading, inappropriate attempt to paint our client in a negative light, the rep told the site. Here are the facts: two months ago, Kevin called me and said he wanted Edward to reprise the role of Bruce Banner in 'The Avengers.' He told me it would be his fantasy to bring Edward on stage with the rest of the cast at [Comic-Con] and make it the event of the convention. When I said that Edward was definitely open to this idea, Kevin was very excited and we agreed that Edward should meet with [director] Joss Whedon to discuss the project. Edward and Joss had a very good meeting (confirmed by Feige to me) at which Edward said he was enthusiastic at the prospect of being a part of the ensemble cast. However, the rep further claimed, the talks fell apart last week. VIEW THE PHOTOS: Fan Candy : Superheroes, Sci-Fi Beyond ! Marvel
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick
Thanks for the update. Though snarky, isn't Banner still frail and weak looking? - Original Message - From: B Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 12:41:55 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick Bruce Banner hasn't been the puny Banner stereotype for a long time. Banner is a bit of a snarky so and so and that could lead to some nice exchanges with Downey and Jackson. Norton played him just right but unfortunately he was such a pain to work with he was dropped. Michael Cera is way too young. Jason Bateman on the other hand could be awesome. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: I wonder if Cera might not be a bit too young? I don't follow Hulk. What's up with Banner's behaviour? - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 7:18:00 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick Keith, if they want flavor-of-the-week, Michael Cera would be a great fit for Banner as well. And the character would have to be written, IMO, the way he's been done post-World War Hulk, after Banner and the Hulk were separated, and Banner became a truly scary bastich who played mind games with everyone around him. On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: They need to quit worrying about name actors and just get an actor who looks and can play the part. Eric Bana was way too buff and handsome for Banner. Norton was probably closer, but his almost Shakespearean intensity was a bit too much for the skinny, unsure, milksop that is Bruce Banner. I think Phoenix would come off too much like a crazed mad scientist than the puny Banner we need. Cast the net far and wide to find the right man, and notoriety be hanged! That's the damn problem with H'Wood all the time. Someone who looks the part, for example, would be Jon Cryer, the whiny brother on Two and A Half Men. Not saying he *should* do it, but that's the *look* you need for Banner-someone who looks soft and weak, as if he's never seen the sun or the inside of a gym. - Original Message - From: Daryle Lockhart dar...@... So now I'm hearing they're talking seriously to Joaquin Phoenix. Which is both awesome and frightening at the same time to me. * On Jul 12, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Cinque B wrote: Marvel: Norton Won't Return As Hulk For 'Avengers'; Norton's Rep Responds Source: Access Hollywood Sun Jul 11, 2010, 8:15 pm EDT Edward Norton won't be reprising his role as the Incredible Hulk in 2012's The Avengers, a Marvel rep confirmed to Access Hollywood on Sunday. Marvel Studios president of production Kevin Feige explained the decision in a statement to HitFix . VIEW THE PHOTOS: Edward Norton We have made the decision to not bring Ed Norton back to portray the title role of Bruce Banner in 'The Avengers,' Feige told the site. Our decision is definitely not one based on monetary factors, but instead rooted in the need for an actor who embodies the creativity and collaborative spirit of our other talented cast members. 'The Avengers' demands players who thrive working as part of an ensemble, as evidenced by Robert, Chris H, Chris E, Sam, Scarlett, and all of our talented casts. We are looking to announce a name actor who fulfills these requirements, and is passionate about the iconic role in the coming weeks. The actors referred to in the statement include current Marvel stars Robert Downey Jr. ( Iron Man ), Chris Hemsworth (Thor), Chris Evans (Captain America: The First Avenger), Samuel L. Jackson (Nick Fury), Scarlett Johansson ( Iron Man 2's Black Widow), who are expected to reprise their superhero roles in team-up film The Avengers. VIEW THE PHOTOS: Scenes From ‘ The Incredible Hulk ’ A rep for Norton responded to the statement to Hitfix on Sunday, calling it purposefully misleading and claiming that his client had been in discussions to return to the role. This offensive statement from Kevin Feige at Marvel is a purposefully misleading, inappropriate attempt to paint our client in a negative light, the rep told the site. Here are the facts: two months ago, Kevin called me and said he wanted Edward to reprise the role of Bruce Banner in 'The Avengers.' He told me it would be his fantasy to bring Edward on stage with the rest of the cast at [Comic-Con] and make it the event of the convention. When I said that Edward was definitely open to this idea, Kevin was very excited and we agreed that Edward should meet with [director] Joss Whedon to discuss the project. Edward
Re: [scifinoir2] Top 10 Evil Human Experiments
Gruesome. :-\ Brent Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: http://listverse.com/2008/03/14/top-10-evil-human-experiments/ Top 10 Evil Human Experiments Share This- Published March 14, 2008 - 343 Comments [WARNING] This list contains descriptions and images of human experimentation which may cause offense to some readers.] Human experimentation and research ethics evolved over time. On occasion, the subjects of human experimentation have been prisoners, slaves, or even family members. In some notable cases, doctors have performed experiments on themselves when they have been unwilling to risk the lives of others. This is known as self-experimentation. This is a list of the 10 most evil and unethical experiments carried out on humans.
[scifinoir2] OT: Goldberg: Mel Gibson is Not a Racist
Brent, I owe you an apology for high-mindedly saying I don't like being privy to people's private thoughts and utterances, odious though they may be. I still feel that way. I hate knowing that Gibson is such a racist on this level. I don't get why his girlfriend chose to release this crap to Radar Online instead of just the cops. I think, like the other topics we've discussed recently of media coverage, we are becoming way too much of a nation where everyone wants to get their stuff out in the media for a variety of reasons. But, for all that I wish and think this stuff should never have been released this way, I must admit I've listened to it, and it sickens me. The only question I have is, why is *anyone* still surprised at Gibson's racism? The drunken rants when he was arrested were enough evidence, the disturbing anti-Semitic tones of The Passion of the Christ were troublesome as well. As for Whoopi Goldberg saying he's not a racist, I have no idea what the hell her definition is, but I'm not surprised. She's dealt with self-hatred and hatred of black people for a long time. I've noticed over the years how she attacks people who use the term African-American, saying she's just an American, as if the term were insulting. I note how refused to wear a ribbon against racism for the Oscars one year, and even did a riff on it, but curiously, she wore things supporting everything from gay rights to women's rights. And I note that, the same lady who gives people like Gibson a pass is very quick to attack other blacks. years ago she was given an Essence award I believe. (Might have been NAACP...) When she got the award, Goldberg proceeded to thank the audience, then tell them Y'all have made it hard on me--very hard. She berated the audience for all the years that blacks had laughed at her looks, not supported her, and made her feel ugly. Odd that she was so quick to attack blacks publicly, takes offense at black labels, yet can be so forgiving and understanding of racism like this. Oh yeah: I bet Danny Glover is saying, What the fu**, Mel?! http://www.examiner.com/x-15166-Comedy-Examiner~y2010m7d13-Whoopi-Goldberg-defends-Mel-Gibson-Mel-Gibson-is-not-a-racist We've been following the goings-on over at the Mel Gibson Meltdownapalooza for the past few weeks. By now, you've probably heard one or more of the audio tapes that Gibson's ex has leaked to the press, so we don't need to reiterate the blatant hate-speech, misogyny, and-- let's face it-- flat-out threats that Gibson spits out during these tapes. This is the sorta situation that any reasonable, intelligent, rational thinking-person could look at and say, You know, I think that Mel Gibson's a bit of a racist, and probably a few other things. With that said, Whoopi Goldberg has sprung into action to defend Mel Gibson as decidedly un-racist. Read all about it below, my gentle Examiner readers... This Mel Gibson thing's really getting out of hand. The current news on the situation is that authorities are now looking into the Gibson/Oksana (that'd be his ex-wife) debacle for a multitude of reasons. On one side of the fence, you've got Gibson's camp accusing Oksana of trying to extor Gibson by releasing the tapes to the media. This side claims that Gibson was set-up and provoked into making the several audio tapes that have now leaked to the press. On the other side of the debate, you've got Gibson's ex's people, who claim that Gibson beat her up, threatened to plant her in (his) rose garden, and that Gibson's a flaming racist. Now, just because there aren't enough cooks in this particular kitchen, Whoopi Goldberg's got a few things to say: I have had a long friendship with Mel. You can say he's being a bonehead, but I can't sit and say that he's a racist having spent time with him in my house with my kids, added Goldberg, 54.I don't like what he's done, make no mistake, she went on. I'm not defending Mel. I'm simply saying I don't see him as [a racist] because that's not been my experience with him. That's Whoopi Goldberg speaking to MSN.com. She's apparently taken the stance that, while Gibson's behavior is certainly boneheaded, it's not necessarily racist. Goldberg's careful to add that she doesn't support Gibson's behavior or the things that he's said that might be construed as threatening to Gibson's ex or children, but that whole pack of n---gers thing definitely wasn't racist. With that in mind, let's take a trip down memory lane for the other non-racist and tolerant things that Gibson's been caught saying on camera, on tape, or by police officers with glorious breasts: You look like a f-cking pig in heat, and if you get raped by a pack of n---ers, it will be your fault. F-cking Jews... The Jews are responsible for all the wars in the world… Are you a Jew? With this look, who's going to think I'm gay? I don't lend
Re: [scifinoir2] Top 10 Evil Human Experiments
I saw the play Miss Evers' Boys here in Atlanta years ago, dealing with Tuskegee. It was mind-boggling that black people could have been involved in such a thing, but they were told that it was a way to show that we were human too, just like whites. The old show them you're as good as them by showing you can die like them thing that's been used for everything from hazardous jobs to being cannon fodder in war. By the end of the play, when one guy dies onstage from his untreated syphillis, there wasn't a dry eye in the house, white or black, man or woman. - Original Message - From: brent wodehouse brent_wodeho...@thefence.us To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 4:07:09 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Top 10 Evil Human Experiments Gruesome. :-\ Brent Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: http://listverse.com/2008/03/14/top-10-evil-human-experiments/ Top 10 Evil Human Experiments Share This- Published March 14, 2008 - 343 Comments [WARNING] This list contains descriptions and images of human experimentation which may cause offense to some readers.] Human experimentation and research ethics evolved over time. On occasion, the subjects of human experimentation have been prisoners, slaves, or even family members. In some notable cases, doctors have performed experiments on themselves when they have been unwilling to risk the lives of others. This is known as self-experimentation. This is a list of the 10 most evil and unethical experiments carried out on humans.
[scifinoir2] Re: Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick
Still thin but not frail. He's learned a few tricks and picked up some fighting skills. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: Thanks for the update. Though snarky, isn't Banner still frail and weak looking? - Original Message - From: B Smith daikaij...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 12:41:55 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick Bruce Banner hasn't been the puny Banner stereotype for a long time. Banner is a bit of a snarky so and so and that could lead to some nice exchanges with Downey and Jackson. Norton played him just right but unfortunately he was such a pain to work with he was dropped. Michael Cera is way too young. Jason Bateman on the other hand could be awesome. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: I wonder if Cera might not be a bit too young? I don't follow Hulk. What's up with Banner's behaviour? - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter martinbaxter7@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 7:18:00 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick Keith, if they want flavor-of-the-week, Michael Cera would be a great fit for Banner as well. And the character would have to be written, IMO, the way he's been done post-World War Hulk, after Banner and the Hulk were separated, and Banner became a truly scary bastich who played mind games with everyone around him. On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: They need to quit worrying about name actors and just get an actor who looks and can play the part. Eric Bana was way too buff and handsome for Banner. Norton was probably closer, but his almost Shakespearean intensity was a bit too much for the skinny, unsure, milksop that is Bruce Banner. I think Phoenix would come off too much like a crazed mad scientist than the puny Banner we need. Cast the net far and wide to find the right man, and notoriety be hanged! That's the damn problem with H'Wood all the time. Someone who looks the part, for example, would be Jon Cryer, the whiny brother on Two and A Half Men. Not saying he *should* do it, but that's the *look* you need for Banner-someone who looks soft and weak, as if he's never seen the sun or the inside of a gym. - Original Message - From: Daryle Lockhart daryle@ So now I'm hearing they're talking seriously to Joaquin Phoenix. Which is both awesome and frightening at the same time to me. * On Jul 12, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Cinque B wrote: Marvel: Norton Won't Return As Hulk For 'Avengers'; Norton's Rep Responds Source: Access Hollywood Sun Jul 11, 2010, 8:15 pm EDT Edward Norton won't be reprising his role as the Incredible Hulk in 2012's The Avengers, a Marvel rep confirmed to Access Hollywood on Sunday. Marvel Studios president of production Kevin Feige explained the decision in a statement to HitFix . VIEW THE PHOTOS: Edward Norton We have made the decision to not bring Ed Norton back to portray the title role of Bruce Banner in 'The Avengers,' Feige told the site. Our decision is definitely not one based on monetary factors, but instead rooted in the need for an actor who embodies the creativity and collaborative spirit of our other talented cast members. 'The Avengers' demands players who thrive working as part of an ensemble, as evidenced by Robert, Chris H, Chris E, Sam, Scarlett, and all of our talented casts. We are looking to announce a name actor who fulfills these requirements, and is passionate about the iconic role in the coming weeks. The actors referred to in the statement include current Marvel stars Robert Downey Jr. ( Iron Man ), Chris Hemsworth (Thor), Chris Evans (Captain America: The First Avenger), Samuel L. Jackson (Nick Fury), Scarlett Johansson ( Iron Man 2's Black Widow), who are expected to reprise their superhero roles in team-up film The Avengers. VIEW THE PHOTOS: Scenes From ââ¬Ë The Incredible Hulk ââ¬â¢ A rep for Norton responded to the statement to Hitfix on Sunday, calling it purposefully misleading and claiming that his client had been in discussions to return to the role. This offensive statement from Kevin Feige at Marvel is a purposefully misleading, inappropriate attempt to paint our client in a negative light, the rep told the site. Here are the facts: two months ago, Kevin called me and said he wanted Edward to reprise the role of Bruce Banner in 'The Avengers.' He told me it would be his fantasy to
[scifinoir2] 6 Coolest Inventions you Probably Didn’t Know Exis t
6 Coolest Inventions you Probably Didn’t Know Exist December 2, 2009 by uphaa.blog http://www.uphaa.com/blog/index.php/author/admin/ Progress Bar on a Traffic Light A designhttp://www.uphaa.com/blog/index.php/6-coolest-inventions-you-probably-didnt-know-exist/#award has been given for a concept that would allow existing traffic lights to be retrofitted with progress bars that offer a visual representation of when the light will change. Damjan Stanković -the designer- promotes this stoplight as an eco solution in the following ways: If you’ve got the amount of time you’ve got to stop in front of you, you can shut your engine off, wait, be calm, and turn it back on again when the time is almost up. This not only lessens the amount of gashttp://www.uphaa.com/blog/index.php/6-coolest-inventions-you-probably-didnt-know-exist/#you use sitting still, but it lessens the amount of crazy madness you have wondering if the stoplight is stuck, or just really, really long.Source http://www.yankodesign.com/2009/11/30/a-better-understanding-of-stoplights/ Waterproof Gadget Coating Golden Shellback Coating is here and it is specifically created to protect gizmoshttp://www.uphaa.com/blog/index.php/6-coolest-inventions-you-probably-didnt-know-exist/#against damage and loss of function due to harsh weather conditions and moisture. This protective shield produces a vacuum-deposited film that is non-flammable and insoluble in solvents. It is an ideal protection for plastic, copper, aluminum, metal, ceramic, steel, tin, or glass. The price of this excellent anti-corrosion coating depends on the equipment you want to use it for. For the BlackBerry Pearlhttp://www.uphaa.com/blog/index.php/6-coolest-inventions-you-probably-didnt-know-exist/#, $120; the iPod Shuffle, $60; the iPod Touchhttp://www.uphaa.com/blog/index.php/6-coolest-inventions-you-probably-didnt-know-exist/#$120.Source. http://www.golden-shellback.com/ Airport Sleep Pods Have you ever slept at the airport? For those of us who want the convenience of sleepinghttp://www.uphaa.com/blog/index.php/6-coolest-inventions-you-probably-didnt-know-exist/#at the airport, without so much of the crazy, there’s these amazing things right here! “Sleephttp://www.uphaa.com/blog/index.php/6-coolest-inventions-you-probably-didnt-know-exist/#Box” they go by the name of, designed by Arch Group for those who need private time in strange, unfriendly places! There’s a thousand instances where the ideal personal cubical could come in handy. Here’s one of them: the airport. In between flights, what do you do? Sit in some marginally comfortable seats. Lots of time in between flights, what do you do? Sleep box. The box itself is 2mx1.4mx2.3m. The main bed is 2×0.6m, equipped with an automatic system which changes the linenshttp://www.uphaa.com/blog/index.php/6-coolest-inventions-you-probably-didnt-know-exist/#(think Fifth Element.) The bed is a soft, flexible strip of polymer and pulp tissue. Ventilation system, sound alerts, built-in LCD television, wireless internet accesshttp://www.uphaa.com/blog/index.php/6-coolest-inventions-you-probably-didnt-know-exist/#, power sockets, extra luggage space under lounges. Payment is made in time, anywhere from 15 minutes to several hours.Sourcehttp://www.yankodesign.com/2009/11/12/airport-sleep-pods/ Live Checking Card Do you know who the Green Monster is? It’s that skunk-of-a-bill that you get at the end of the month; it devours all your Dollars because you overspent! Only if you could use something like the Live Checking Card! A Credit Card won’t let you go beyond your limits. It’s a digital thang with an E-ink display that allows you to check your payment history on it. It even tracks your bankhttp://www.uphaa.com/blog/index.php/6-coolest-inventions-you-probably-didnt-know-exist/#account’s transaction through RFIDhttp://www.uphaa.com/blog/index.php/6-coolest-inventions-you-probably-didnt-know-exist/#. A cumulative amount shows up on the screen every time you swipe the card; giving you your account balance on your finger tips. Designers: Jin-young Yoon, Wook-sun Oh, Young-ho Lee Jun-kyo Lee. Sourcehttp://www.yankodesign.com/2009/11/26/kick-the-green-monster/ Hydropak – World’s First Portable Fuel Cell The HydroPak is the world’s first commercially available fuel cellhttp://www.uphaa.com/blog/index.php/6-coolest-inventions-you-probably-didnt-know-exist/#. The system consists of a fuel cell and water-activated power-cartridgehttp://www.uphaa.com/blog/index.php/6-coolest-inventions-you-probably-didnt-know-exist/#. Insert a hydrogen cartridge and add water, and the fuel cell would be sufficient to recharge your laptop computerhttp://www.uphaa.com/blog/index.php/6-coolest-inventions-you-probably-didnt-know-exist/#between 8 and 10 times. In addition, the HydroPak is designed with a common AC outlet as well as x2 USB connectors, allowing you to connect/charge a variety of appliances such as lights, television
[scifinoir2] 10 Bizarre Theories And The Facts Surrounding Them
10 Bizarre Theories And The Facts Surrounding Them Share This javascript:void(0)- Published July 24, 2008 - 550 Commentshttp://listverse.com/2008/07/24/10-bizarre-theories-and-the-facts-surrounding-them/#idc-container Previously we posted a list on conspiracy theorieshttp://listverse.com/miscellaneous/another-10-conspiracy-theories/, but the items on this list are not really suited to that genre. This is a list of bizarre theories or beliefs that many people subscribe to – with a list of the facts as far as modern science is concerned. This is not meant as a criticism of believers, but as a discussion of the theories and facts. 10 Magic [image: Picture 1-36]http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/picture-1-36.png The Theory: The theory is by using certain objects such as a candlehttp://listverse.com/2008/07/24/10-bizarre-theories-and-the-facts-surrounding-them/#, a dagger and a wide variety of things you can bend the universe to your will completely ignoring the laws of physics and the practical laws of the universe. The facts: Many people claim that they can use such powers as summoning demons, angels or other things and the OOBE or out of body experience under laboratory conditions but no one has been able to prove it so far. There are incidents that do defy logical explanations, such as some people’s claims of using the Ouija board, though since none of these events can be proven it is very weak evidence. 9 Reptoids [image: Picture 2-17]http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/picture-2-17.png The Theory: This has to be one of the most outlandish theories ever brought forth, it is claimed most famously by David Icke but as well by several others. It states that the royal familyhttp://listverse.com/2008/07/24/10-bizarre-theories-and-the-facts-surrounding-them/#of Britain, President Bush’s family as well as many other higher ups are actually aliens that are here to secretly take over earth, feeding off of humans to maintain their “human form”. The facts: Most of the theorists proof consists of enhanced photos of people such as Mr. Bush with reptile looking eyes, though they have come forth with many other forms of proof such as videos and other reptile aspects of the reptoids here on earth. The videos all brought forth have been proven fake or are so obviously fake no one has wasted time and resources to look into it. 8 2008 is actually 1711 [image: Herman] http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/herman.jpg The Theory: The theory here is that the early Middle Ages never existed and we have been counting the earth almost 200 years older than it actually is. The facts: Well, there is no solid way to prove or disprove it, since the very theory says the carbon dating of this age is flawed. They also claim the written test from that era is a forgery from people of that era. Though they have not put forth a reason why and there is no solid evidence from them to prove this theory since the basis of their theory stops us from being able to scientifically prove they are wrong. It is a matter of who believes what, though the evidence does seem to be stronger for the side against the Middle Ages not existing. Since all this theory says is that the carbon dating is incorrect and the writings are forgeries though we have an almost perfect time line with the carbon dating we use, we can almost cast this one aside without proof. 7 Nazi Advances [image: Warbonds Poster]http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/warbonds-poster.jpg The Theory: The theory is the Nazis were much farther ahead than technology http://listverse.com/2008/07/24/10-bizarre-theories-and-the-facts-surrounding-them/#would allow them to be at the time. It ranges wildly but one of the most popular versions is that the Nazis landed on the moon as early as 1942 and established a moon base on the dark side of the moon. They also had establishments with at least half a dozen alien civilizations, and that the remaining Nazis remain on the moon to this day. The facts: There are so many holes in this Theory, for example most skeptics believe that we haven’t had any contact at all with aliens as of yet, as well the dark side of the moon is freezing, they would need amazing machineryhttp://listverse.com/2008/07/24/10-bizarre-theories-and-the-facts-surrounding-them/#to accomplish living there. They would need a way to renew all their resources; this could be explained by growing plants for food and air. But they would also need an energy source of some kind, which there would have to be one not yet discovered by us back here on earth. 6 Hollow Earth [image: Hollow Earth Complete Shell Model]http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/hollow-earth-complete-shell-model.gif The Theory: The theory is the earth is actually hollow and is not filled with magma. It ranges from there being several layered shellshttp://listverse.com/2008/07/24/10-bizarre-theories-and-the-facts-surrounding-them/#on the inside (usually four) to the inside
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick
How about Jackie Earle Haley? On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 1:17 PM, B Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com wrote: Still thin but not frail. He's learned a few tricks and picked up some fighting skills. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: Thanks for the update. Though snarky, isn't Banner still frail and weak looking? - Original Message - From: B Smith daikaij...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 12:41:55 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick Bruce Banner hasn't been the puny Banner stereotype for a long time. Banner is a bit of a snarky so and so and that could lead to some nice exchanges with Downey and Jackson. Norton played him just right but unfortunately he was such a pain to work with he was dropped. Michael Cera is way too young. Jason Bateman on the other hand could be awesome. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: I wonder if Cera might not be a bit too young? I don't follow Hulk. What's up with Banner's behaviour? - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter martinbaxter7@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 7:18:00 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick Keith, if they want flavor-of-the-week, Michael Cera would be a great fit for Banner as well. And the character would have to be written, IMO, the way he's been done post-World War Hulk, after Banner and the Hulk were separated, and Banner became a truly scary bastich who played mind games with everyone around him. On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: They need to quit worrying about name actors and just get an actor who looks and can play the part. Eric Bana was way too buff and handsome for Banner. Norton was probably closer, but his almost Shakespearean intensity was a bit too much for the skinny, unsure, milksop that is Bruce Banner. I think Phoenix would come off too much like a crazed mad scientist than the puny Banner we need. Cast the net far and wide to find the right man, and notoriety be hanged! That's the damn problem with H'Wood all the time. Someone who looks the part, for example, would be Jon Cryer, the whiny brother on Two and A Half Men. Not saying he *should* do it, but that's the *look* you need for Banner-someone who looks soft and weak, as if he's never seen the sun or the inside of a gym. - Original Message - From: Daryle Lockhart daryle@ So now I'm hearing they're talking seriously to Joaquin Phoenix. Which is both awesome and frightening at the same time to me. * On Jul 12, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Cinque B wrote: Marvel: Norton Won't Return As Hulk For 'Avengers'; Norton's Rep Responds Source: Access Hollywood Sun Jul 11, 2010, 8:15 pm EDT Edward Norton won't be reprising his role as the Incredible Hulk in 2012's The Avengers, a Marvel rep confirmed to Access Hollywood on Sunday. Marvel Studios president of production Kevin Feige explained the decision in a statement to HitFix . VIEW THE PHOTOS: Edward Norton We have made the decision to not bring Ed Norton back to portray the title role of Bruce Banner in 'The Avengers,' Feige told the site. Our decision is definitely not one based on monetary factors, but instead rooted in the need for an actor who embodies the creativity and collaborative spirit of our other talented cast members. 'The Avengers' demands players who thrive working as part of an ensemble, as evidenced by Robert, Chris H, Chris E, Sam, Scarlett, and all of our talented casts. We are looking to announce a name actor who fulfills these requirements, and is passionate about the iconic role in the coming weeks. The actors referred to in the statement include current Marvel stars Robert Downey Jr. ( Iron Man ), Chris Hemsworth (Thor), Chris Evans (Captain America: The First Avenger), Samuel L. Jackson (Nick Fury), Scarlett Johansson ( Iron Man 2's Black Widow), who are expected to reprise their superhero roles in team-up film The Avengers. VIEW THE PHOTOS: Scenes From ‘ The Incredible Hulk ’ A rep for Norton responded to the statement to Hitfix on Sunday, calling it purposefully misleading and claiming that his client had been in discussions to return to the role. This offensive statement from Kevin Feige at Marvel is a purposefully misleading, inappropriate attempt to paint our client in a negative light, the rep told the site. Here are the facts: two months ago, Kevin called me and said he wanted Edward to reprise the role of Bruce Banner in 'The Avengers.' He
Re: [scifinoir2] Top 10 Evil Human Experiments
The Tuskegee experiment, as well as the things that were done in the eugenics program (and other programs) is America's dark secret. On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: I saw the play Miss Evers' Boys here in Atlanta years ago, dealing with Tuskegee. It was mind-boggling that black people could have been involved in such a thing, but they were told that it was a way to show that we were human too, just like whites. The old show them you're as good as them by showing you can die like them thing that's been used for everything from hazardous jobs to being cannon fodder in war. By the end of the play, when one guy dies onstage from his untreated syphillis, there wasn't a dry eye in the house, white or black, man or woman. - Original Message - From: brent wodehouse brent_wodeho...@thefence.us To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 4:07:09 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Top 10 Evil Human Experiments Gruesome. :-\ Brent Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com HelloMahogany%40gmail.com wrote: http://listverse.com/2008/03/14/top-10-evil-human-experiments/ Top 10 Evil Human Experiments Share This- Published March 14, 2008 - 343 Comments [WARNING] This list contains descriptions and images of human experimentation which may cause offense to some readers.] Human experimentation and research ethics evolved over time. On occasion, the subjects of human experimentation have been prisoners, slaves, or even family members. In some notable cases, doctors have performed experiments on themselves when they have been unwilling to risk the lives of others. This is known as self-experimentation. This is a list of the 10 most evil and unethical experiments carried out on humans. -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] [Far, Far Away Off Topic] Is 2010 New York City, America's Summ
Ah, sadly, we are somewhat at odds then, Martin. You see, it's fiendishly difficult to describe, but... Words fail me. The sight when one encounters... when the vision of... ineffable. I guess the feeling... beyond the ken of mere mortals (certainly this mortal :-). It pushes one out of acceptable comportment into a sort of glassy-eyed delirium. You see, there; it makes one confused and exhilarated at the same time. Bother. I've ceased making sense. All I can be certain of is that the effect is total. :-) Brent Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com wrote: Brent, as a Leg Man for Life, I am bereft. On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 11:29 PM, brent wodehouse brent_wodeho...@thefence.us wrote: :-) http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/archives/2010/07/is_2010_new_yor.php Badonkadonk Is 2010 New York City, America's Summer of Ass? By Foster Kamer Mon., Jul. 12 2010 The times, they change. The ebb and flow of the universe is simply something to be gerneally understood as such, and nothing more. For every action, there's an equal reaction. And for every physics law, there's a metaphysical plane to apply it to that generally shows its face when you look at it from the right direction at a certain point. Like this one. From behind. In other words: In 2009, New York City, and the rest of America had the Summer of Death. In 2010, New York City, and the rest of America has the Summer of Ass. Because 2009 was the Summer, when, like, every celebrity died! And that's sad. So America must be rewarded with something. The revitalized popularity emerging for big derrieres -- an easily-achievable physical feat, one may argue -- is, of course, society's natural karmic award for bearing the pain of all those dead celebrities last year. The New York Daily News didn't note this in their piece of the Summer of Ass -- which, by the way, Runnin' Scared Dot Com would like to officially get behind (heh) in a big way (heh, that's another big ass joke, right there) -- but after much looking, and looking, and looking, and talking to impressively-assed celebrities like Kim Kardashian, they think they've unlocked the secret of the reemergence of the ample back-asset [http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle/fashion/2010/07/12/2010-07-12_rearing_to_go_big_butts_are_summer_2010s_hottest_trend.html?page=1#ixzz0tTz6zgoG]: 'Gone are the days of being ashamed of a wider bottom, with America becoming more diverse amid shifting standards, according to Stylesight trend analyst Sharon Graubard. I think it's about the diversity of our population and more accepted beauty, and a wider range of accepted beauty, Graubard explains.' Realize what a win-win situation this is for everyone: * The Big-Bottomed: Pleased. * The Ass Men: Pleased. * The Workout Industry: Pleased. * The Food Industry: Pleased. * The Ass-Accentuating Denim Industry: Pleased. * Pat Kiernan: Pleased [http://www.patspapers.com/story_stack/item/everybody_likes_big_butts/]. Of all of society's ills, will the large-ass trend work to heal any of them? Only time will tell. In the mean time, there's certainly one marginalized group that may -- nay, must -- see something good yielded by all of this: * The Booty Jam Nostalgists. Lest you not understand what a Booty Jam is, all you need to know is: It is a song created for hyper-utilization by those with, um, big asses. And hopefully, these songs will come back, because they are amazing. Certainly, you can have your Sir Mix-A-Lot, you may have your Apple Bottom Jeans and your Nelly, but ah, you don't know anything about Luke, 69 Boyz, and 2 Live Crew's heyday, until you experience it. Like this.
Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Goldberg: Mel Gibson is Not a Racist
No harm, no foul. I post, you comment. Fair play. :-) Brent Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net writes: Brent, I owe you an apology for high-mindedly saying I don't like being privy to people's private thoughts and utterances, odious though they may be. I still feel that way. I hate knowing that Gibson is such a racist on this level. I don't get why his girlfriend chose to release this crap to Radar Online instead of just the cops. I think, like the other topics we've discussed recently of media coverage, we are becoming way too much of a nation where everyone wants to get their stuff out in the media for a variety of reasons.Ê But, for all that I wish and think this stuff should never have been released this way, I must admit I've listened to it, and it sickens me.Ê The only question I have is, why is *anyone* still surprised at Gibson's racism? The drunken rants when he was arrested were enough evidence, the disturbing anti-Semitic tones of The Passion of the Christ were troublesome as well. As for Whoopi Goldberg saying he's not a racist, I have no idea what the hell her definition is, but I'm not surprised. She's dealt with self-hatred and hatred of black people for a long time. I've noticed over the years how she attacks people who use the term African-American, saying she's just an American, as if the term were insulting. I note how refused to wear a ribbon against racism for the Oscars one year, and even did a riff on it, but curiously, she wore things supporting everything from gay rights to women's rights. And I note that, the same lady who gives people like Gibson a pass is very quick to attack other blacks. years ago she was given an Essence award I believe. (Might have been NAACP...) When she got the award, Goldberg proceeded to thank the audience, then tell them Y'all have made it hard on me--very hard. She berated the audience for all the years that blacks had laughed at her looks, not supported her, and made her feel ugly. Odd that she was so quick to attack blacks publicly, takes offense at black labels,Ê yet can be so forgiving and understanding of racism like this. Oh yeah: I bet Danny Glover is saying, What the fu**, Mel?! http://www.examiner.com/x-15166-Comedy-Examiner~y2010m7d13-Whoopi-Goldberg-defends-Mel-Gibson-Mel-Gibson-is-not-a-racist We've been following the goings-on over at the Mel Gibson Meltdownapalooza for the past few weeks.Ê By now, you've probably heard one or more of the audio tapes that Gibson's ex has leaked to the press, so we don't need to reiterate the blatant hate-speech, misogyny, and-- let's face it-- flat-out threats that Gibson spits out during these tapes.Ê This is the sorta situation that any reasonable, intelligent, rational thinking-person could look at and say, You know, I think that Mel Gibson's a bit of a racist, and probably a few other things.Ê With that said, Whoopi Goldberg has sprung into action to defend Mel Gibson as decidedly un-racist.Ê Read all about it below, my gentle Examiner readers... This Mel Gibson thing's really getting out of hand.Ê The current news on the situation is that authorities are now looking into the Gibson/Oksana (that'd be his ex-wife) debacle for a multitude of reasons.Ê On one side of the fence, you've got Gibson's camp accusing Oksana of trying to extor Gibson by releasing the tapes to the media.Ê This side claims that Gibson was set-up and provoked into making the several audio tapes that have now leaked to the press.Ê On the other side of the debate, you've got Gibson's ex's people, who claim that Gibson beat her up, threatened to plant her in (his) rose garden, and that Gibson's a flaming racist.Ê Now, just because there aren't enough cooks in this particular kitchen, Whoopi [ http://wonderwall.msn.com/tv/whoopi-goldberg-mel-gibson-is-not-a-racist-1560886.story?GT1=28135 ]Goldberg's got a few things to say: I have had a long friendship with Mel. You can say he's being a bonehead, but I can't sit and say that he's a racist having spent time with him in my house with my kids, added Goldberg, 54.I don't like what he's done, make no mistake, she went on. I'm not defending Mel. I'm simply saying I don't see him as [a racist] because that's not been my experience with him. That's Whoopi Goldberg speaking to MSN.com.Ê She's apparently taken the stance that, while Gibson's behavior is certainly boneheaded, it's not necessarily racist.Ê Goldberg's careful to add that she doesn't support Gibson's behavior or the things that he's said that might be construed as threatening to Gibson's ex or children, but that whole pack of n---gers thing definitely wasn't racist.Ê With that in mind, let's take a trip down memory lane for the other non-racist and tolerant things that Gibson's been caught saying on camera, on tape, or by police officers with glorious breasts: You look like a f-cking pig in heat, and if you get raped by a pack of n---ers, it will be
Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Goldberg: Mel Gibson is Not a Racist
I think Mel gets his racism from his father who is a well documented anti-semite and conspiracy theorist. I think Whoopi has bought into the Hollywood hype. She has been in the Hollywood system so long that she has lost her bearings on reality. This happens to a lot of people of color that gain acceptance through tokenism and may have genuine white friends, but that does not mean that all is right with the world. On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 1:08 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Brent, I owe you an apology for high-mindedly saying I don't like being privy to people's private thoughts and utterances, odious though they may be. I still feel that way. I hate knowing that Gibson is such a racist on this level. I don't get why his girlfriend chose to release this crap to Radar Online instead of just the cops. I think, like the other topics we've discussed recently of media coverage, we are becoming way too much of a nation where everyone wants to get their stuff out in the media for a variety of reasons. But, for all that I wish and think this stuff should never have been released this way, I must admit I've listened to it, and it sickens me. The only question I have is, why is *anyone* still surprised at Gibson's racism? The drunken rants when he was arrested were enough evidence, the disturbing anti-Semitic tones of The Passion of the Christ were troublesome as well. As for Whoopi Goldberg saying he's not a racist, I have no idea what the hell her definition is, but I'm not surprised. She's dealt with self-hatred and hatred of black people for a long time. I've noticed over the years how she attacks people who use the term African-American, saying she's just an American, as if the term were insulting. I note how refused to wear a ribbon against racism for the Oscars one year, and even did a riff on it, but curiously, she wore things supporting everything from gay rights to women's rights. And I note that, the same lady who gives people like Gibson a pass is very quick to attack other blacks. years ago she was given an Essence award I believe. (Might have been NAACP...) When she got the award, Goldberg proceeded to thank the audience, then tell them Y'all have made it hard on me--very hard. She berated the audience for all the years that blacks had laughed at her looks, not supported her, and made her feel ugly. Odd that she was so quick to attack blacks publicly, takes offense at black labels, yet can be so forgiving and understanding of racism like this. Oh yeah: I bet Danny Glover is saying, What the fu**, Mel?! http://www.examiner.com/x-15166-Comedy-Examiner~y2010m7d13-Whoopi-Goldberg-defends-Mel-Gibson-Mel-Gibson-is-not-a-racisthttp://www.examiner.com/x-15166-Comedy-Examiner%7Ey2010m7d13-Whoopi-Goldberg-defends-Mel-Gibson-Mel-Gibson-is-not-a-racist *We've been following the goings-on over at the Mel Gibson Meltdownapalooza for the past few weeks. By now, you've probably heard one or more of the audio tapes that Gibson's ex has leaked to the press, so we don't need to reiterate the blatant hate-speech, misogyny, and-- let's face it-- flat-out threats that Gibson spits out during these tapes. This is the sorta situation that any reasonable, intelligent, rational thinking-person could look at and say, You know, I think that Mel Gibson's a bit of a racist, and probably a few other things. With that said, Whoopi Goldberg has sprung into action to defend Mel Gibson as decidedly un-racist. Read all about it below, my gentle Examiner readers...* This Mel Gibson thing's really getting out of hand. The current news on the situation is that authorities are now looking into the Gibson/Oksana (that'd be his ex-wife) debacle for a multitude of reasons. On one side of the fence, you've got Gibson's camp accusing Oksana of trying to extor Gibson by releasing the tapes to the media. This side claims that Gibson was set-up and provoked into making the several audio tapes that have now leaked to the press. On the other side of the debate, you've got Gibson's ex's people, who claim that Gibson beat her up, threatened to plant her in (his) rose garden, and that Gibson's a flaming racist. Now, just because there aren't enough cooks in this particular kitchen, Whoopi Goldberg's got a few things to say:http://wonderwall.msn.com/tv/whoopi-goldberg-mel-gibson-is-not-a-racist-1560886.story?GT1=28135 *I have had a long friendship with Mel. You can say he's being a bonehead, but I can't sit and say that he's a racist having spent time with him in my house with my kids, added Goldberg, 54.I don't like what he's done, make no mistake, she went on. I'm not defending Mel. I'm simply saying I don't see him as [a racist] because that's not been my experience with him.* That's Whoopi Goldberg speaking to MSN.com. She's apparently taken the stance that, while Gibson's behavior is certainly
Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Goldberg: Mel Gibson is Not a Racist
The whole Whoppi Goldberg thing is bizarre. I can't imagine hearing these words from anyone I know and then trying to defend that person. Does anyone else feel as though this recording is getting so much play just because news outlets want to play slurs, even when they're bleeped? On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: I think Mel gets his racism from his father who is a well documented anti-semite and conspiracy theorist. I think Whoopi has bought into the Hollywood hype. She has been in the Hollywood system so long that she has lost her bearings on reality. This happens to a lot of people of color that gain acceptance through tokenism and may have genuine white friends, but that does not mean that all is right with the world. On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 1:08 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Brent, I owe you an apology for high-mindedly saying I don't like being privy to people's private thoughts and utterances, odious though they may be. I still feel that way. I hate knowing that Gibson is such a racist on this level. I don't get why his girlfriend chose to release this crap to Radar Online instead of just the cops. I think, like the other topics we've discussed recently of media coverage, we are becoming way too much of a nation where everyone wants to get their stuff out in the media for a variety of reasons. But, for all that I wish and think this stuff should never have been released this way, I must admit I've listened to it, and it sickens me. The only question I have is, why is *anyone* still surprised at Gibson's racism? The drunken rants when he was arrested were enough evidence, the disturbing anti-Semitic tones of The Passion of the Christ were troublesome as well. As for Whoopi Goldberg saying he's not a racist, I have no idea what the hell her definition is, but I'm not surprised. She's dealt with self-hatred and hatred of black people for a long time. I've noticed over the years how she attacks people who use the term African-American, saying she's just an American, as if the term were insulting. I note how refused to wear a ribbon against racism for the Oscars one year, and even did a riff on it, but curiously, she wore things supporting everything from gay rights to women's rights. And I note that, the same lady who gives people like Gibson a pass is very quick to attack other blacks. years ago she was given an Essence award I believe. (Might have been NAACP...) When she got the award, Goldberg proceeded to thank the audience, then tell them Y'all have made it hard on me--very hard. She berated the audience for all the years that blacks had laughed at her looks, not supported her, and made her feel ugly. Odd that she was so quick to attack blacks publicly, takes offense at black labels, yet can be so forgiving and understanding of racism like this. Oh yeah: I bet Danny Glover is saying, What the fu**, Mel?! http://www.examiner.com/x-15166-Comedy-Examiner~y2010m7d13-Whoopi-Goldberg-defends-Mel-Gibson-Mel-Gibson-is-not-a-racisthttp://www.examiner.com/x-15166-Comedy-Examiner%7Ey2010m7d13-Whoopi-Goldberg-defends-Mel-Gibson-Mel-Gibson-is-not-a-racist *We've been following the goings-on over at the Mel Gibson Meltdownapalooza for the past few weeks. By now, you've probably heard one or more of the audio tapes that Gibson's ex has leaked to the press, so we don't need to reiterate the blatant hate-speech, misogyny, and-- let's face it-- flat-out threats that Gibson spits out during these tapes. This is the sorta situation that any reasonable, intelligent, rational thinking-person could look at and say, You know, I think that Mel Gibson's a bit of a racist, and probably a few other things. With that said, Whoopi Goldberg has sprung into action to defend Mel Gibson as decidedly un-racist. Read all about it below, my gentle Examiner readers...* This Mel Gibson thing's really getting out of hand. The current news on the situation is that authorities are now looking into the Gibson/Oksana (that'd be his ex-wife) debacle for a multitude of reasons. On one side of the fence, you've got Gibson's camp accusing Oksana of trying to extor Gibson by releasing the tapes to the media. This side claims that Gibson was set-up and provoked into making the several audio tapes that have now leaked to the press. On the other side of the debate, you've got Gibson's ex's people, who claim that Gibson beat her up, threatened to plant her in (his) rose garden, and that Gibson's a flaming racist. Now, just because there aren't enough cooks in this particular kitchen, Whoopi Goldberg's got a few things to say:http://wonderwall.msn.com/tv/whoopi-goldberg-mel-gibson-is-not-a-racist-1560886.story?GT1=28135 *I have had a long friendship with Mel. You can say he's being a bonehead, but I can't sit and say that he's a racist having
Re: [scifinoir2] 6 Coolest Inventions you Probably D idn’t Know Exist
These are great. Although I once saw a traffic light that did some kind of crazy blinking when the caution light came on. It was late. It seemed brighter than normal. For a second, I thought it might mean something other than what normal traffic lights mean. I think I'm getting to the point where I need some warning when the everyday changes. On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: 6 Coolest Inventions you Probably Didn’t Know Exist December 2, 2009 by uphaa.blog http://www.uphaa.com/blog/index.php/author/admin/ Progress Bar on a Traffic Light A designhttp://www.uphaa.com/blog/index.php/6-coolest-inventions-you-probably-didnt-know-exist/#award has been given for a concept that would allow existing traffic lights to be retrofitted with progress bars that offer a visual representation of when the light will change. Damjan Stanković -the designer- promotes this stoplight as an eco solution in the following ways: If you’ve got the amount of time you’ve got to stop in front of you, you can shut your engine off, wait, be calm, and turn it back on again when the time is almost up. This not only lessens the amount of gashttp://www.uphaa.com/blog/index.php/6-coolest-inventions-you-probably-didnt-know-exist/#you use sitting still, but it lessens the amount of crazy madness you have wondering if the stoplight is stuck, or just really, really long.Source http://www.yankodesign.com/2009/11/30/a-better-understanding-of-stoplights/ Waterproof Gadget Coating Golden Shellback Coating is here and it is specifically created to protect gizmoshttp://www.uphaa.com/blog/index.php/6-coolest-inventions-you-probably-didnt-know-exist/#against damage and loss of function due to harsh weather conditions and moisture. This protective shield produces a vacuum-deposited film that is non-flammable and insoluble in solvents. It is an ideal protection for plastic, copper, aluminum, metal, ceramic, steel, tin, or glass. The price of this excellent anti-corrosion coating depends on the equipment you want to use it for. For the BlackBerry Pearlhttp://www.uphaa.com/blog/index.php/6-coolest-inventions-you-probably-didnt-know-exist/#, $120; the iPod Shuffle, $60; the iPod Touchhttp://www.uphaa.com/blog/index.php/6-coolest-inventions-you-probably-didnt-know-exist/#$120.Source. http://www.golden-shellback.com/ Airport Sleep Pods Have you ever slept at the airport? For those of us who want the convenience of sleepinghttp://www.uphaa.com/blog/index.php/6-coolest-inventions-you-probably-didnt-know-exist/#at the airport, without so much of the crazy, there’s these amazing things right here! “Sleephttp://www.uphaa.com/blog/index.php/6-coolest-inventions-you-probably-didnt-know-exist/#Box” they go by the name of, designed by Arch Group for those who need private time in strange, unfriendly places! There’s a thousand instances where the ideal personal cubical could come in handy. Here’s one of them: the airport. In between flights, what do you do? Sit in some marginally comfortable seats. Lots of time in between flights, what do you do? Sleep box. The box itself is 2mx1.4mx2.3m. The main bed is 2×0.6m, equipped with an automatic system which changes the linenshttp://www.uphaa.com/blog/index.php/6-coolest-inventions-you-probably-didnt-know-exist/#(think Fifth Element.) The bed is a soft, flexible strip of polymer and pulp tissue. Ventilation system, sound alerts, built-in LCD television, wireless internet accesshttp://www.uphaa.com/blog/index.php/6-coolest-inventions-you-probably-didnt-know-exist/#, power sockets, extra luggage space under lounges. Payment is made in time, anywhere from 15 minutes to several hours.Sourcehttp://www.yankodesign.com/2009/11/12/airport-sleep-pods/ Live Checking Card Do you know who the Green Monster is? It’s that skunk-of-a-bill that you get at the end of the month; it devours all your Dollars because you overspent! Only if you could use something like the Live Checking Card! A Credit Card won’t let you go beyond your limits. It’s a digital thang with an E-ink display that allows you to check your payment history on it. It even tracks your bankhttp://www.uphaa.com/blog/index.php/6-coolest-inventions-you-probably-didnt-know-exist/#account’s transaction through RFIDhttp://www.uphaa.com/blog/index.php/6-coolest-inventions-you-probably-didnt-know-exist/#. A cumulative amount shows up on the screen every time you swipe the card; giving you your account balance on your finger tips. Designers: Jin-young Yoon, Wook-sun Oh, Young-ho Lee Jun-kyo Lee. Sourcehttp://www.yankodesign.com/2009/11/26/kick-the-green-monster/ Hydropak – World’s First Portable Fuel Cell The HydroPak is the world’s first commercially available fuel cellhttp://www.uphaa.com/blog/index.php/6-coolest-inventions-you-probably-didnt-know-exist/#. The system consists of a fuel cell and water-activated
Re: [scifinoir2] 6 Coolest Inventions you Probably D idn’t Know Exist
There really hasn't been any changes to the current redlight system for a great while. Some areas have the smart intersection systems that will sense a car. If there isn't a car in traveling across the intersection, the system will speed up the light. It also allows emergency vehicles to control the lights into their favor. (also the redlight cams which turned into an expensive joke here. After several years and cities all over the state installing them, they are starting to take them down because they don't always work properly by capturing people making a right turn etc.) I enjoy looking at new inventions that will change our lives a bit. For a long time things felt stagnant. On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 3:12 PM, Tracy Curtis tlcurti...@gmail.com wrote: These are great. Although I once saw a traffic light that did some kind of crazy blinking when the caution light came on. It was late. It seemed brighter than normal. For a second, I thought it might mean something other than what normal traffic lights mean. I think I'm getting to the point where I need some warning when the everyday changes. On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: 6 Coolest Inventions you Probably Didn’t Know Exist December 2, 2009 by uphaa.blog http://www.uphaa.com/blog/index.php/author/admin/ Progress Bar on a Traffic Light A designhttp://www.uphaa.com/blog/index.php/6-coolest-inventions-you-probably-didnt-know-exist/#award has been given for a concept that would allow existing traffic lights to be retrofitted with progress bars that offer a visual representation of when the light will change. Damjan Stanković -the designer- promotes this stoplight as an eco solution in the following ways: If you’ve got the amount of time you’ve got to stop in front of you, you can shut your engine off, wait, be calm, and turn it back on again when the time is almost up. This not only lessens the amount of gashttp://www.uphaa.com/blog/index.php/6-coolest-inventions-you-probably-didnt-know-exist/#you use sitting still, but it lessens the amount of crazy madness you have wondering if the stoplight is stuck, or just really, really long.Source http://www.yankodesign.com/2009/11/30/a-better-understanding-of-stoplights/ Waterproof Gadget Coating Golden Shellback Coating is here and it is specifically created to protect gizmoshttp://www.uphaa.com/blog/index.php/6-coolest-inventions-you-probably-didnt-know-exist/#against damage and loss of function due to harsh weather conditions and moisture. This protective shield produces a vacuum-deposited film that is non-flammable and insoluble in solvents. It is an ideal protection for plastic, copper, aluminum, metal, ceramic, steel, tin, or glass. The price of this excellent anti-corrosion coating depends on the equipment you want to use it for. For the BlackBerry Pearlhttp://www.uphaa.com/blog/index.php/6-coolest-inventions-you-probably-didnt-know-exist/#, $120; the iPod Shuffle, $60; the iPod Touchhttp://www.uphaa.com/blog/index.php/6-coolest-inventions-you-probably-didnt-know-exist/#$120.Source. http://www.golden-shellback.com/ Airport Sleep Pods Have you ever slept at the airport? For those of us who want the convenience of sleepinghttp://www.uphaa.com/blog/index.php/6-coolest-inventions-you-probably-didnt-know-exist/#at the airport, without so much of the crazy, there’s these amazing things right here! “Sleephttp://www.uphaa.com/blog/index.php/6-coolest-inventions-you-probably-didnt-know-exist/#Box” they go by the name of, designed by Arch Group for those who need private time in strange, unfriendly places! There’s a thousand instances where the ideal personal cubical could come in handy. Here’s one of them: the airport. In between flights, what do you do? Sit in some marginally comfortable seats. Lots of time in between flights, what do you do? Sleep box. The box itself is 2mx1.4mx2.3m. The main bed is 2×0.6m, equipped with an automatic system which changes the linenshttp://www.uphaa.com/blog/index.php/6-coolest-inventions-you-probably-didnt-know-exist/#(think Fifth Element.) The bed is a soft, flexible strip of polymer and pulp tissue. Ventilation system, sound alerts, built-in LCD television, wireless internet accesshttp://www.uphaa.com/blog/index.php/6-coolest-inventions-you-probably-didnt-know-exist/#, power sockets, extra luggage space under lounges. Payment is made in time, anywhere from 15 minutes to several hours.Sourcehttp://www.yankodesign.com/2009/11/12/airport-sleep-pods/ Live Checking Card Do you know who the Green Monster is? It’s that skunk-of-a-bill that you get at the end of the month; it devours all your Dollars because you overspent! Only if you could use something like the Live Checking Card! A Credit Card won’t let you go beyond your limits. It’s a digital thang with an E-ink display that allows you to check your payment history on it. It even tracks your
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Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Goldberg: Mel Gibson is Not a Racist
There could be a couple of things going on here. One could be that there are some producers milking it for what its worth. (that's always a certainty) The other is that someone is getting pleasure out of it because it is so un-PC which is a conservative hot button. It fits right in with the teabagger crap. On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Tracy Curtis tlcurti...@gmail.com wrote: The whole Whoppi Goldberg thing is bizarre. I can't imagine hearing these words from anyone I know and then trying to defend that person. Does anyone else feel as though this recording is getting so much play just because news outlets want to play slurs, even when they're bleeped? On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: I think Mel gets his racism from his father who is a well documented anti-semite and conspiracy theorist. I think Whoopi has bought into the Hollywood hype. She has been in the Hollywood system so long that she has lost her bearings on reality. This happens to a lot of people of color that gain acceptance through tokenism and may have genuine white friends, but that does not mean that all is right with the world. On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 1:08 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Brent, I owe you an apology for high-mindedly saying I don't like being privy to people's private thoughts and utterances, odious though they may be. I still feel that way. I hate knowing that Gibson is such a racist on this level. I don't get why his girlfriend chose to release this crap to Radar Online instead of just the cops. I think, like the other topics we've discussed recently of media coverage, we are becoming way too much of a nation where everyone wants to get their stuff out in the media for a variety of reasons. But, for all that I wish and think this stuff should never have been released this way, I must admit I've listened to it, and it sickens me. The only question I have is, why is *anyone* still surprised at Gibson's racism? The drunken rants when he was arrested were enough evidence, the disturbing anti-Semitic tones of The Passion of the Christ were troublesome as well. As for Whoopi Goldberg saying he's not a racist, I have no idea what the hell her definition is, but I'm not surprised. She's dealt with self-hatred and hatred of black people for a long time. I've noticed over the years how she attacks people who use the term African-American, saying she's just an American, as if the term were insulting. I note how refused to wear a ribbon against racism for the Oscars one year, and even did a riff on it, but curiously, she wore things supporting everything from gay rights to women's rights. And I note that, the same lady who gives people like Gibson a pass is very quick to attack other blacks. years ago she was given an Essence award I believe. (Might have been NAACP...) When she got the award, Goldberg proceeded to thank the audience, then tell them Y'all have made it hard on me--very hard. She berated the audience for all the years that blacks had laughed at her looks, not supported her, and made her feel ugly. Odd that she was so quick to attack blacks publicly, takes offense at black labels, yet can be so forgiving and understanding of racism like this. Oh yeah: I bet Danny Glover is saying, What the fu**, Mel?! http://www.examiner.com/x-15166-Comedy-Examiner~y2010m7d13-Whoopi-Goldberg-defends-Mel-Gibson-Mel-Gibson-is-not-a-racisthttp://www.examiner.com/x-15166-Comedy-Examiner%7Ey2010m7d13-Whoopi-Goldberg-defends-Mel-Gibson-Mel-Gibson-is-not-a-racist *We've been following the goings-on over at the Mel Gibson Meltdownapalooza for the past few weeks. By now, you've probably heard one or more of the audio tapes that Gibson's ex has leaked to the press, so we don't need to reiterate the blatant hate-speech, misogyny, and-- let's face it-- flat-out threats that Gibson spits out during these tapes. This is the sorta situation that any reasonable, intelligent, rational thinking-person could look at and say, You know, I think that Mel Gibson's a bit of a racist, and probably a few other things. With that said, Whoopi Goldberg has sprung into action to defend Mel Gibson as decidedly un-racist. Read all about it below, my gentle Examiner readers...* This Mel Gibson thing's really getting out of hand. The current news on the situation is that authorities are now looking into the Gibson/Oksana (that'd be his ex-wife) debacle for a multitude of reasons. On one side of the fence, you've got Gibson's camp accusing Oksana of trying to extor Gibson by releasing the tapes to the media. This side claims that Gibson was set-up and provoked into making the several audio tapes that have now leaked to the press. On the other side of the debate, you've got Gibson's ex's people, who claim that Gibson beat her up, threatened to plant her in (his)
Re: [scifinoir2] 10 Extremely Weird Religions
They hold on to stuff for a long time. Have you seen that Travel Channel show about the tribe from New Guinea that comes to America? The chief's father met a couple of white guys during WW2 and sent a group to the US to find him. On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 3:37 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: I laugh my narrow a$$ off at this, especially the Prince Philip Movement. Wonder if those brothers know that their deity is a racist bastich... On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 3:38 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: http://listverse.com/2009/09/10/10-extremely-weird-religions/ Originally, I wasn't going to post this, but I noticed that 2 of the groups were African American. 10 Extremely Weird Religions Share This- Published September 10, 2009 by *JFrater* - 318 Commentshttp://listverse.com/2009/09/10/10-extremely-weird-religions/#idc-container We have previously published a variety of lists on strange religious practices http://listverse.com/2007/08/13/10-weird-religious-practices/, religions you never knew existedhttp://listverse.com/2008/07/08/top-10-religions-you-never-knew-existed/, and weird cults http://listverse.com/2007/09/15/top-10-cults/, but not a list of bizarre religions. This list is designed to fill the gap by discussing ten religions that most of us have not heard of (for good reason as you will see). Be sure to use the comments to tell us about any other bizarre religions and, especially, your own experiences of them. 10 Scientology [image: Scientology1-2]http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/scientology1-2.jpg Scientology has featured on a previous list, but if I didn’t include it here the comments would be inundated with “where’s scientology?” questions. The Church of Scientology is a cult created by L Ron Hubbard (Elron) in 1952 as an outgrowth of his earlier self-help system called Dianetics. The Church of Scientology holds that at the higher levels of initiation (OT levels) mystical teachings are imparted that may be harmful to unprepared readers. These teachings are kept secret from members who have not reached these levels. In the OT levels, Hubbard explains how to reverse the effects of past-life trauma patterns that supposedly extend millions of years into the past. Among these advanced teachings is the story of Xenu (sometimes Xemu), introduced as an alien ruler of the “Galactic Confederacy.” According to this story, 75 million years ago Xenu brought billions of people to Earth in spacecraft resembling Douglas DC-8 airliners, stacked them around volcanoes and detonated hydrogen bombs in the volcanoes. The thetans then clustered together, stuck to the bodies of the living, and continue to do this today. Scientologists at advanced levels place considerable emphasis on isolating body thetans and neutralizing their ill effects. 9 Creativity Movement [image: Splc Hale 350X4501]http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/splc_hale_350x4501.jpg The Creativity Movement (formerly known as World Church Of The Creator), is a white separatist organization that advocates the whites-only religion, Creativity. It was also a descriptive phrase used by Ben Klassen, that included all adherents of the religion. The use of the term creator does not refer to a deity, but rather to themselves (white people). Despite the former use of the word Church in its name, the movement is atheistic. Creativity is a White Separatist religion that was founded by Ben Klassen in early 1973 under the name Church of the Creator. After Klassen’s death in 1993, Creativity almost died out as a religion until the New Church of the Creator was established three years later by Matthew F. Hale as its Pontifex Maximus (high priest), until his incarceration in January 2003 for plotting with the movement’s head of security, Anthony Evola (an FBI informant), to murder a federal judge. 8 Thee Temple ov Psychick Youth [image: Picture 2-81]http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/picture-2-81.png Obviously spelling is not a fundamental part of this religion! Thee Temple ov Psychick Youth (TOPY) was founded in 1981 by members of Psychic TVhttp://listverse.com/2009/09/10/10-extremely-weird-religions/#, Coil, Current 93, and a number of other individuals. The ever-evolving network is a loosely federated group of people operating as a unique blend of artistic collective, and practitioners of magic. TOPY is dedicated to the manifestation of magical concepts lacking mysticism or the worship of gods. The group focuses on the psychic and magical aspects of the human brain linked with “guiltless sexuality”. Throughout its existence, TOPY has been an influential group in the underground Chaos magic scene and in the wider western occult tradition. TOPY’s research has covered both Left-hand path and Right-hand path magick, various elements of psychology, art, music, and a variety of other media. Some of the influences on the
[scifinoir2] Pawn Stars
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[scifinoir2] No mobile phone coverage? No worries, researchers put a tower in a phone
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[scifinoir2] Re: Consumer Reports will not recommend Apple iPhone 4
G4 reported today that Apple has been deleting posts on the Consumer Reports article from their group websites. Hmmm that was a m$ move there. On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 2:11 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: Consumer Reports will not recommend Apple iPhone 4 - - [image: Digg] Digg This - [image: Twitter] Tweet This - [image: LinkedIn]Share on LinkedIn - [image: Facebook] Share on Facebook Related News - Analysis: ATT shares look cheap compared with Verizon'shttp://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6684XP20100709 Fri, Jul 9 2010 - ATT, Alcatel Lucent find glitch affecting iPhone 4http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6664BO20100707 Wed, Jul 7 2010 - UPDATE 3-Apple says iPhones overstate signal strengthhttp://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN0220253620100702 Fri, Jul 2 2010 - Consumers sue Apple over iPhone antenna problemshttp://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6603R620100701 Thu, Jul 1 2010 - Passengers sue to block UAL/Continental mergerhttp://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN2915358320100629 Tue, Jun 29 2010 Related Topics - Technology » http://www.reuters.com/news/technology - ipad » http://www.reuters.com/subjects/ipad - Hot Stocks » http://www.reuters.com/finance/markets/hotStocks - Asian Markets » http://www.reuters.com/finance/markets/asia - Media » http://www.reuters.com/news/media - Regulatory News » http://www.reuters.com/finance/deals/regulatory [image: A customer looks at an iPhone 4 at the Apple Store 5th Avenue in New York, in this June 24, 2010 file photo. REUTERS/Eric Thayer/Files] A customer looks at an iPhone 4 at the Apple Store 5th Avenue in New York, in this June 24, 2010 file photo. Credit: Reuters/Eric Thayer/Files SAN FRANCISCO | Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:01pm EDT SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - Consumer Reports said it cannot recommend Apple's iPhone 4 to buyers after tests confirmed the device's well-publicized reception glitches. It added that that ATT Inc, the exclusive mobile phone carrier for the iPhone 4, was not necessarily the main culprit. The influential nonprofit organization, which publishes guides on everything from cars to TVs, said in a report released on Monday that it also tested other phones -- including the iPhone 3GS and Palm Pre -- and found none had the signal-loss problems of Apple's latest iPhone. The report was the latest blow to the iPhone 4, which sold 1.7 million units in its first three days on the market but has been plagued by complaints of poor reception. Many of the complaints involve a wraparound antenna whose signal strength is said to be affected if touched in a certain way. Kaufman Bros analyst Shaw Wu said he was surprised by the stance that Consumer Reports took on the new iPhone. Wu noted that the group's recommendations are used as a guide by many consumers. Consumer reports is a respected publication. This could have an impact on iPhone sales, Wu said. Apple shares were down 1 percent at $257.06 on Monday afternoon on the Nasdaq. The company has been sued by iPhone customers in at least three complaints related to antenna problems. When your finger or hand touches a spot on the phone's lower left side -- an easy thing, especially for lefties -- the signal can significantly degrade enough to cause you to lose your connection altogether if you're in an area with a weak signal, contributor Mike Gikas said in a report on the Consumer Reports website. Our findings call into question the recent claim by Apple that the iPhone 4's signal-strength issues were largely an optical illusion caused by faulty software that 'mistakenly displays 2 more bars than it should for a given signal strength,' Gikas said. Apple did not respond to a request for comment. Gikas recommended covering the gap in the wraparound antenna with duct tape or some other non-conductive material. Apple has said almost any cellphone will suffer a loss of signal if held in certain ways. It said later it had discovered a software glitch that overstates signal strength, though it did not directly address concerns about the antenna with that admission. On the flip side, Consumer Reports said the iPhone scored high on other testing grounds such as battery life, sharp display and high-quality video camera. However, Gikas said the signal problem was the reason the iPhone 4 would not be classified as a recommended device in its smartphone ratings. Apple needs to come out with a permanent -- and free -- fix to the antenna problem before we can recommend the iPhone4, said Gikas in his blog post on ConsumerReports.org. (Reporting by Carolina Madrid and Gabriel Madwayhttp://blogs.reuters.com/search/journalist.php?edition=usn=gabriel.madway;; Editing by Edwin Chan, Matthew Lewishttp://blogs.reuters.com/search/journalist.php?edition=usn=matthew.lewis;and Steve Orlofsky) -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick
Wow, thanks for the correction! Is the book any better? Like I said, I've never been a fan, and the whole Red Hulk and Son of Hulk storylines haven't drawn me in at all. - Original Message - From: B Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 4:17:25 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick Still thin but not frail. He's learned a few tricks and picked up some fighting skills. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: Thanks for the update. Though snarky, isn't Banner still frail and weak looking? - Original Message - From: B Smith daikaij...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 12:41:55 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick Bruce Banner hasn't been the puny Banner stereotype for a long time. Banner is a bit of a snarky so and so and that could lead to some nice exchanges with Downey and Jackson. Norton played him just right but unfortunately he was such a pain to work with he was dropped. Michael Cera is way too young. Jason Bateman on the other hand could be awesome. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: I wonder if Cera might not be a bit too young? I don't follow Hulk. What's up with Banner's behaviour? - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter martinbaxter7@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 7:18:00 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick Keith, if they want flavor-of-the-week, Michael Cera would be a great fit for Banner as well. And the character would have to be written, IMO, the way he's been done post-World War Hulk, after Banner and the Hulk were separated, and Banner became a truly scary bastich who played mind games with everyone around him. On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: They need to quit worrying about name actors and just get an actor who looks and can play the part. Eric Bana was way too buff and handsome for Banner. Norton was probably closer, but his almost Shakespearean intensity was a bit too much for the skinny, unsure, milksop that is Bruce Banner. I think Phoenix would come off too much like a crazed mad scientist than the puny Banner we need. Cast the net far and wide to find the right man, and notoriety be hanged! That's the damn problem with H'Wood all the time. Someone who looks the part, for example, would be Jon Cryer, the whiny brother on Two and A Half Men. Not saying he *should* do it, but that's the *look* you need for Banner-someone who looks soft and weak, as if he's never seen the sun or the inside of a gym. - Original Message - From: Daryle Lockhart daryle@ So now I'm hearing they're talking seriously to Joaquin Phoenix. Which is both awesome and frightening at the same time to me. * On Jul 12, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Cinque B wrote: Marvel: Norton Won't Return As Hulk For 'Avengers'; Norton's Rep Responds Source: Access Hollywood Sun Jul 11, 2010, 8:15 pm EDT Edward Norton won't be reprising his role as the Incredible Hulk in 2012's The Avengers, a Marvel rep confirmed to Access Hollywood on Sunday. Marvel Studios president of production Kevin Feige explained the decision in a statement to HitFix . VIEW THE PHOTOS: Edward Norton We have made the decision to not bring Ed Norton back to portray the title role of Bruce Banner in 'The Avengers,' Feige told the site. Our decision is definitely not one based on monetary factors, but instead rooted in the need for an actor who embodies the creativity and collaborative spirit of our other talented cast members. 'The Avengers' demands players who thrive working as part of an ensemble, as evidenced by Robert, Chris H, Chris E, Sam, Scarlett, and all of our talented casts. We are looking to announce a name actor who fulfills these requirements, and is passionate about the iconic role in the coming weeks. The actors referred to in the statement include current Marvel stars Robert Downey Jr. ( Iron Man ), Chris Hemsworth (Thor), Chris Evans (Captain America: The First Avenger), Samuel L. Jackson (Nick Fury), Scarlett Johansson ( Iron Man 2's Black Widow), who are expected to reprise their superhero roles in team-up film The Avengers. VIEW THE PHOTOS: Scenes From ‘ The Incredible Hulk ’ A rep for Norton responded to the statement to Hitfix on Sunday, calling it purposefully misleading and claiming that his client had been
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick
Dude, he would be freaking awesome as Banner! I wonder if the suits would think he looks too creepy, like Phoenix? He'd meet the criteria for this new edgy Banner Brent mentioned. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 4:41:43 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick How about Jackie Earle Haley? On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 1:17 PM, B Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com wrote: Still thin but not frail. He's learned a few tricks and picked up some fighting skills. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: Thanks for the update. Though snarky, isn't Banner still frail and weak looking? - Original Message - From: B Smith daikaij...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 12:41:55 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick Bruce Banner hasn't been the puny Banner stereotype for a long time. Banner is a bit of a snarky so and so and that could lead to some nice exchanges with Downey and Jackson. Norton played him just right but unfortunately he was such a pain to work with he was dropped. Michael Cera is way too young. Jason Bateman on the other hand could be awesome. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: I wonder if Cera might not be a bit too young? I don't follow Hulk. What's up with Banner's behaviour? - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter martinbaxter7@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 7:18:00 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick Keith, if they want flavor-of-the-week, Michael Cera would be a great fit for Banner as well. And the character would have to be written, IMO, the way he's been done post-World War Hulk, after Banner and the Hulk were separated, and Banner became a truly scary bastich who played mind games with everyone around him. On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: They need to quit worrying about name actors and just get an actor who looks and can play the part. Eric Bana was way too buff and handsome for Banner. Norton was probably closer, but his almost Shakespearean intensity was a bit too much for the skinny, unsure, milksop that is Bruce Banner. I think Phoenix would come off too much like a crazed mad scientist than the puny Banner we need. Cast the net far and wide to find the right man, and notoriety be hanged! That's the damn problem with H'Wood all the time. Someone who looks the part, for example, would be Jon Cryer, the whiny brother on Two and A Half Men. Not saying he *should* do it, but that's the *look* you need for Banner-someone who looks soft and weak, as if he's never seen the sun or the inside of a gym. - Original Message - From: Daryle Lockhart daryle@ So now I'm hearing they're talking seriously to Joaquin Phoenix. Which is both awesome and frightening at the same time to me. * On Jul 12, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Cinque B wrote: Marvel: Norton Won't Return As Hulk For 'Avengers'; Norton's Rep Responds Source: Access Hollywood Sun Jul 11, 2010, 8:15 pm EDT Edward Norton won't be reprising his role as the Incredible Hulk in 2012's The Avengers, a Marvel rep confirmed to Access Hollywood on Sunday. Marvel Studios president of production Kevin Feige explained the decision in a statement to HitFix . VIEW THE PHOTOS: Edward Norton We have made the decision to not bring Ed Norton back to portray the title role of Bruce Banner in 'The Avengers,' Feige told the site. Our decision is definitely not one based on monetary factors, but instead rooted in the need for an actor who embodies the creativity and collaborative spirit of our other talented cast members. 'The Avengers' demands players who thrive working as part of an ensemble, as evidenced by Robert, Chris H, Chris E, Sam, Scarlett, and all of our talented casts. We are looking to announce a name actor who fulfills these requirements, and is passionate about the iconic role in the coming weeks. The actors referred to in the statement include current Marvel stars Robert Downey Jr. ( Iron Man ), Chris Hemsworth (Thor), Chris Evans (Captain America: The First Avenger), Samuel L. Jackson (Nick Fury), Scarlett Johansson ( Iron Man 2's Black Widow), who are expected to reprise their superhero roles in team-up film The Avengers. VIEW THE PHOTOS: Scenes From ‘ The Incredible Hulk ’ A rep for
Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Goldberg: Mel Gibson is Not a Racist
You're right on both counts. Gibson's dad spends his time as a traveling Holocaust denier. Gibson subscribes to some older tenets of the Catholic Church--officially abandoned by the church a few decades back--that lean more toward things such as condemning the Jews for the Crucifixtion. I have certainly known closet bigots on this level in my life, but it's been a while... As for Goldberg, unfortunately I have friends and relatives just like that. They condemn blacks for all the wrongs they suffered at their hands, but don't hold the same grudges against whites. I have black friends who are really quick to call blacks ghetto, or label all black women golddiggers or whatever, but who never speak in general terms about the bad characteristics of other ethnic groups. Dennis Rodman is an example. He loves to say he dates white women because black women were so cruel to him before he gained fame and money. somehow he's never forgiven those knucklehead sisters who were shallow in his youth, but doesn't seem to realize few white women would be dating him if he weren't rich? Don't get it. A big concern of mine recently has been the explosion in black men who are quick to call Sisters gold diggers, but don't seem to label other races--often more deserving--as quickly with that title. I get that it hurts more coming from your own, but shouldn't forgiveness start there too? - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 5:17:36 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Goldberg: Mel Gibson is Not a Racist I think Mel gets his racism from his father who is a well documented anti-semite and conspiracy theorist. I think Whoopi has bought into the Hollywood hype. She has been in the Hollywood system so long that she has lost her bearings on reality. This happens to a lot of people of color that gain acceptance through tokenism and may have genuine white friends, but that does not mean that all is right with the world. On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 1:08 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Brent, I owe you an apology for high-mindedly saying I don't like being privy to people's private thoughts and utterances, odious though they may be. I still feel that way. I hate knowing that Gibson is such a racist on this level. I don't get why his girlfriend chose to release this crap to Radar Online instead of just the cops. I think, like the other topics we've discussed recently of media coverage, we are becoming way too much of a nation where everyone wants to get their stuff out in the media for a variety of reasons. But, for all that I wish and think this stuff should never have been released this way, I must admit I've listened to it, and it sickens me. The only question I have is, why is *anyone* still surprised at Gibson's racism? The drunken rants when he was arrested were enough evidence, the disturbing anti-Semitic tones of The Passion of the Christ were troublesome as well. As for Whoopi Goldberg saying he's not a racist, I have no idea what the hell her definition is, but I'm not surprised. She's dealt with self-hatred and hatred of black people for a long time. I've noticed over the years how she attacks people who use the term African-American, saying she's just an American, as if the term were insulting. I note how refused to wear a ribbon against racism for the Oscars one year, and even did a riff on it, but curiously, she wore things supporting everything from gay rights to women's rights. And I note that, the same lady who gives people like Gibson a pass is very quick to attack other blacks. years ago she was given an Essence award I believe. (Might have been NAACP...) When she got the award, Goldberg proceeded to thank the audience, then tell them Y'all have made it hard on me--very hard. She berated the audience for all the years that blacks had laughed at her looks, not supported her, and made her feel ugly. Odd that she was so quick to attack blacks publicly, takes offense at black labels, yet can be so forgiving and understanding of racism like this. Oh yeah: I bet Danny Glover is saying, What the fu**, Mel?! http://www.examiner.com/x-15166-Comedy-Examiner~y2010m7d13-Whoopi-Goldberg-defends-Mel-Gibson-Mel-Gibson-is-not-a-racist We've been following the goings-on over at the Mel Gibson Meltdownapalooza for the past few weeks. By now, you've probably heard one or more of the audio tapes that Gibson's ex has leaked to the press, so we don't need to reiterate the blatant hate-speech, misogyny, and-- let's face it-- flat-out threats that Gibson spits out during these tapes. This is the sorta situation that any reasonable, intelligent, rational thinking-person could look at and say, You know, I think that Mel Gibson's a bit of a racist, and probably a few other things. With that said,
Re: [scifinoir2] Pawn Stars
I'm always singing that show's praises. I watch it religiously. I also like American Pickers. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 7:19:14 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Pawn Stars This week's episode of Pawn Stars features a brotha in Vegas selling his Transformers collection of over 1000 pieces! He has one of the largest collections outside of Hasbro ever seen. -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
[scifinoir2] Washington Post Reviews Rizzoli and Isles, Covert Affairs.
I watched Rizzoli and Isles last night. Knowing nothing about the source material, and given what I saw on the trailers, I didn't expect it to be quite as grim as it was. Not bad, just grim. I'm also having to get used to Sasha Gray playing gentler and more cerebral here than she did as the tough agent in NCIS. That, and the change from the raven locks on NCIS to the blonde look. I'm not a supper fan of Angie Harmon. Her fairly hard and unforgiving character on Law and Order never appealed to me, and I have to be honest that her conservative politics biased me a bit too. But overall the show has potential, so I'll give it a chance. I also watched the new show The Glades. It was okay too. Didn't draw me in quite as much as the premieres of Justified, Memphis Beat, or The Good Guys, but hey--worth a look. I'm just amazed at all the new fare we're getting on cable channels. With Closer, Burn Notice, Rescue Me, White Collar, In Plain Sight, Mad Men, Leverage, Royal Pains, Army Wives and others, there's a whole hell of a lot of good, original programming to be had. I can't remember the last time I've seen this many original series on TV covering the gamut of genres, and *lasting*! Looking forward to Covert Affairs tonight. Hope it's a fun action series. I see the actor who played Jake 2.0 is back in the espionage biz in this series, although here he's not a field agent, but a blind guy who I guess is support. * http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/11/AR2010071103084.html By Hank Stuever Washington Post Staff Writer Monday, July 12, 2010 While Boston homicide detective Jane Rizzoli (Angie Harmon) and medical examiner Maura Isles (Sasha Alexander) check over a naked woman's corpse in the woods to make sure she's been murdered to the exact, telltale preferences of a notorious serial killer, let us occupy ourselves by making a list of all the stylized cop procedurals we've been subjected to lately. It's like browsing that shelf of faded paperbacks that collect on the living room shelves of a beach rental. One of these new shows (new never seems like the right word) was about a smart-talkin' Chicago detective in Florida, called The Glades. (Is it about air freshener? No, air deadener.) Jason Lee's doing another one -- Memphis-something-or-other; Blue? Heat? Whichever, Lee's character sings in blues clubs after he solves the crime. And there was one about a lady FBI agent sent to a small town (the titular Haven) to investigate a murder and realizes the town is not what it seems. You don't say. Rizzoli Isles, premiering Monday night on TNT, is just the thing for you silent lambs: easy-on-the-brain depictions of rape and murder, solved in one hour through the power of roguish cop sass and the discovery of semen spots on the ottoman. If you like to come home from work, wait for the microwave to beep, and together with your Brownie Husband watch splatter-patterned murder stories solved by women (and men) with impeccable hair and tiny waists -- well, this is the summer for you. Let the mutual rigor mortis work its magic, as Rizzoli, insulted by a colleague, retorts with lines you've heard a thousand times before, such as: How is it that you're still single? How is it that actual FBI statistics show a drop in violent crime for years now, and yet the TV crime wave continues? Perhaps watching these shows is what keeps real serial killers occupied and vicariously sated? Thus ends my genre griping. As for Rizzoli Isles, it isn't brilliant television, but everyone in it seems to be giving it their all -- even the corpses. It's drawn from a series of crime novels by Tess Gerritsen, where the hard-crusted, soft-centered Rizzoli (that sounds like a dessert!) forms a symbiotic friendship with the calm, encyclopedia-brained Isles. While Rizzoli fumes and fumbles out in the field, Isles meticulously Quincies back at the morgue. While Rizzoli wears hoodies and a ponytail, Isles is always decked out in stilettos. As Rizzoli, Harmon, a long-ago Law and Order player, attacks her part with intense crabbiness, which all but obliterates any acting that Alexander, who was on NCIS , might have had in mind. After a wealthy couple is murdered, Rizzoli's off to the state pen to play Hannibal-and-Clarice interrogatory games with a serial killer, on the hunch that he's trained an apprentice. There's a hunky FBI agent who shows up to investigate the case, and he distracts Rizzoli and Isles not only from their jobs but from the faintly lesbian undertones that the show keeps trying to establish. Will it be Rizzoli or Isles who captures Agent Hunky's attention? Somebody should, don't you think? Rizzoli asks. Should we draw straws? Isles counters. Can't we just show him our [breasts] and let him decide? Rizzoli says. Can't someone put a sheet over me? asks the corpse. I shouldn't have to
Re: [scifinoir2] Apple's Clean Hands May Have Dirtied iPhone 4 Signal
I think that it is just a design flaw. If you touch the corner of the phone it is probably making you ground. Consumer Reports said that the signal drops about -20db! Which can take about 1/2 of a signal. On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 3:49 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: Still not quite buying this... http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/07/apples-clean-hands-may-have-dirtied-iphone-4-signal/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Goldberg: Mel Gibson is Not a Racist
I believe that there needs to be more of a dialog on this but until someone in the media takes on the topic it will not exist. I guess Whoopi and others are the equivalent of self hating black ala Uncle Ruckus. Or denial on overdrive. On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: You're right on both counts. Gibson's dad spends his time as a traveling Holocaust denier. Gibson subscribes to some older tenets of the Catholic Church--officially abandoned by the church a few decades back--that lean more toward things such as condemning the Jews for the Crucifixtion. I have certainly known closet bigots on this level in my life, but it's been a while... As for Goldberg, unfortunately I have friends and relatives just like that. They condemn blacks for all the wrongs they suffered at their hands, but don't hold the same grudges against whites. I have black friends who are really quick to call blacks ghetto, or label all black women golddiggers or whatever, but who never speak in general terms about the bad characteristics of other ethnic groups. Dennis Rodman is an example. He loves to say he dates white women because black women were so cruel to him before he gained fame and money. somehow he's never forgiven those knucklehead sisters who were shallow in his youth, but doesn't seem to realize few white women would be dating him if he weren't rich? Don't get it. A big concern of mine recently has been the explosion in black men who are quick to call Sisters gold diggers, but don't seem to label other races--often more deserving--as quickly with that title. I get that it hurts more coming from your own, but shouldn't forgiveness start there too? - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 5:17:36 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Goldberg: Mel Gibson is Not a Racist I think Mel gets his racism from his father who is a well documented anti-semite and conspiracy theorist. I think Whoopi has bought into the Hollywood hype. She has been in the Hollywood system so long that she has lost her bearings on reality. This happens to a lot of people of color that gain acceptance through tokenism and may have genuine white friends, but that does not mean that all is right with the world. On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 1:08 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Brent, I owe you an apology for high-mindedly saying I don't like being privy to people's private thoughts and utterances, odious though they may be. I still feel that way. I hate knowing that Gibson is such a racist on this level. I don't get why his girlfriend chose to release this crap to Radar Online instead of just the cops. I think, like the other topics we've discussed recently of media coverage, we are becoming way too much of a nation where everyone wants to get their stuff out in the media for a variety of reasons. But, for all that I wish and think this stuff should never have been released this way, I must admit I've listened to it, and it sickens me. The only question I have is, why is *anyone* still surprised at Gibson's racism? The drunken rants when he was arrested were enough evidence, the disturbing anti-Semitic tones of The Passion of the Christ were troublesome as well. As for Whoopi Goldberg saying he's not a racist, I have no idea what the hell her definition is, but I'm not surprised. She's dealt with self-hatred and hatred of black people for a long time. I've noticed over the years how she attacks people who use the term African-American, saying she's just an American, as if the term were insulting. I note how refused to wear a ribbon against racism for the Oscars one year, and even did a riff on it, but curiously, she wore things supporting everything from gay rights to women's rights. And I note that, the same lady who gives people like Gibson a pass is very quick to attack other blacks. years ago she was given an Essence award I believe. (Might have been NAACP...) When she got the award, Goldberg proceeded to thank the audience, then tell them Y'all have made it hard on me--very hard. She berated the audience for all the years that blacks had laughed at her looks, not supported her, and made her feel ugly. Odd that she was so quick to attack blacks publicly, takes offense at black labels, yet can be so forgiving and understanding of racism like this. Oh yeah: I bet Danny Glover is saying, What the fu**, Mel?! http://www.examiner.com/x-15166-Comedy-Examiner~y2010m7d13-Whoopi-Goldberg-defends-Mel-Gibson-Mel-Gibson-is-not-a-racisthttp://www.examiner.com/x-15166-Comedy-Examiner%7Ey2010m7d13-Whoopi-Goldberg-defends-Mel-Gibson-Mel-Gibson-is-not-a-racist *We've been following the goings-on over at the Mel Gibson Meltdownapalooza for the past few weeks. By now, you've probably heard
Re: [scifinoir2] Pawn Stars
Me too! Love American Pickers. Its one of the few shows that I can discuss with my mom. We watch it together for some bonding time. On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: I'm always singing that show's praises. I watch it religiously. I also like American Pickers. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 7:19:14 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Pawn Stars This week's episode of Pawn Stars features a brotha in Vegas selling his Transformers collection of over 1000 pieces! He has one of the largest collections outside of Hasbro ever seen. -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
[scifinoir2] Re: Spoiler--Anyone notice the inaccuracy in the Predators trailer?
That was a cool scene in P2, and it's what I thought about when I saw the trailer. Which, again, is why I felt cheated when it didn't turn out that way. Oh well, that was last week. Now I'm trying to figure out how to see Inception this Friday afternoon...I really need to find a baby sitter one of these days. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, B Smith daikaij...@... wrote: I wonder if that scene in the trailer was a call back to Predator 2? After Danny Glover manages to beat his Predator something similar happened to him. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter martinbaxter7@ wrote: Reboot, Angela. All of the previous rules are probably out the window. On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 9:07 PM, angelababycat asrobinson@wrote: Per usual, I saw Predators early Friday afternoon (in a theater with 100 guys and maybe 6 other chics--I should have dressed nicer, LOL!). Anyway,there's really not much to discuss about this installment--if you're a Predators follower, you'll just go see it and then move on with your life. But one thing that really, really irritated me: the movie trailer includes a clip in which the Brody character has the 3-red-dot lights from a dozen Predator gus on him, suggesting that at some point he and the crew will be up against 12+ Predators at once. But in the actual movie, that same sence shows only ONE such site light on the center of his chest. And accordingly the ensuing fight is with one Predator. Plus, it's revealed earlier in the movie that Predators only hunt in groups of 3 anyway. So I feel mislead about the scale of the confrontation we were going to see in the movie. Maybe that's one reason the 2nd half of the movie was so flat. We were all led to expect a huge battle--even if we don't remember exactly why--that never happens. Never underestimate people with photographic memories. Angela -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
[scifinoir2] Re: Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick
This is inspired casting. Jackie Earle Haley can be self-effacing and even sweet-natured and you can believe this monster resides within him. Haley looks like a Herb Trimpe character. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... wrote: How about Jackie Earle Haley? On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 1:17 PM, B Smith daikaij...@... wrote: Still thin but not frail. He's learned a few tricks and picked up some fighting skills. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: Thanks for the update. Though snarky, isn't Banner still frail and weak looking? - Original Message - From: B Smith daikaiju66@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 12:41:55 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick Bruce Banner hasn't been the puny Banner stereotype for a long time. Banner is a bit of a snarky so and so and that could lead to some nice exchanges with Downey and Jackson. Norton played him just right but unfortunately he was such a pain to work with he was dropped. Michael Cera is way too young. Jason Bateman on the other hand could be awesome. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: I wonder if Cera might not be a bit too young? I don't follow Hulk. What's up with Banner's behaviour? - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter martinbaxter7@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 7:18:00 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick Keith, if they want flavor-of-the-week, Michael Cera would be a great fit for Banner as well. And the character would have to be written, IMO, the way he's been done post-World War Hulk, after Banner and the Hulk were separated, and Banner became a truly scary bastich who played mind games with everyone around him. On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: They need to quit worrying about name actors and just get an actor who looks and can play the part. Eric Bana was way too buff and handsome for Banner. Norton was probably closer, but his almost Shakespearean intensity was a bit too much for the skinny, unsure, milksop that is Bruce Banner. I think Phoenix would come off too much like a crazed mad scientist than the puny Banner we need. Cast the net far and wide to find the right man, and notoriety be hanged! That's the damn problem with H'Wood all the time. Someone who looks the part, for example, would be Jon Cryer, the whiny brother on Two and A Half Men. Not saying he *should* do it, but that's the *look* you need for Banner-someone who looks soft and weak, as if he's never seen the sun or the inside of a gym. - Original Message - From: Daryle Lockhart daryle@ So now I'm hearing they're talking seriously to Joaquin Phoenix. Which is both awesome and frightening at the same time to me. * On Jul 12, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Cinque B wrote: Marvel: Norton Won't Return As Hulk For 'Avengers'; Norton's Rep Responds Source: Access Hollywood Sun Jul 11, 2010, 8:15 pm EDT Edward Norton won't be reprising his role as the Incredible Hulk in 2012's The Avengers, a Marvel rep confirmed to Access Hollywood on Sunday. Marvel Studios president of production Kevin Feige explained the decision in a statement to HitFix . VIEW THE PHOTOS: Edward Norton We have made the decision to not bring Ed Norton back to portray the title role of Bruce Banner in 'The Avengers,' Feige told the site. Our decision is definitely not one based on monetary factors, but instead rooted in the need for an actor who embodies the creativity and collaborative spirit of our other talented cast members. 'The Avengers' demands players who thrive working as part of an ensemble, as evidenced by Robert, Chris H, Chris E, Sam, Scarlett, and all of our talented casts. We are looking to announce a name actor who fulfills these requirements, and is passionate about the iconic role in the coming weeks. The actors referred to in the statement include current Marvel stars Robert Downey Jr. ( Iron Man ), Chris Hemsworth (Thor), Chris Evans (Captain America: The First Avenger), Samuel L. Jackson (Nick Fury), Scarlett Johansson ( Iron Man 2's Black Widow), who are expected to reprise their superhero roles in team-up film The Avengers. VIEW THE PHOTOS: Scenes From âââ¬ÃÅ The Incredible Hulk âââ‰â¢ A rep for Norton responded to the statement to Hitfix on Sunday, calling it