[scifinoir2] Re: David Mills, Television Writer and Producer, Dies
R.I.P. He will definitely be missed. I can't wait to see his take on my hometown in Treme. I think the blog title was a bit tongue in cheek, but reading about him it seems that he looked at himself in some ways as our eyes and ears in the room. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Kelwyn ravena...@... wrote: Dang! He was only 48! Always sends a chill up my spine when somebody younger than me dies. ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: Sad news. Homicide is easily in my top ten favorite TV shows of all time, certainly in terms of cop shows. It's the first show I can remember on TV that had so many blacks in non-stereotyped positions of leadership and influence. (Unlike, say, NYPD Blue, which relegated the black captain to more of a guest star in favor of the bigoted white subordinate). Talent like his is rare: he will be missed Although, what's up with his blog Undercover Black Man?... http://undercoverblackman.blogspot.com/ *** David Mills, Television Writer and Producer, Dies By DAVE ITZKOFF 12:24 p.m. | Updated David Mills , an Emmy Award-winning writer and producer for crime dramas like âThe Wireâ on HBO and âHomicide: Life on the Streetsâ on NBC died on Tuesday in New Orleans, a press representative for HBO said. The New Orleans Times-Picayune reported that Mr. Mills died from a brain aneurysm. HBO is about to broadcast the debut of a new series, âTreme,â on which Mr. Mills worked as a writer and producer. After Mr. Mills made his television writing debut with âHomicide,â which his friend, David Simon, helped to create, he wrote for âNYPD Blueâ and âER.â He was also a co-writer and co-producer on âThe Corner,â adapted from Mr. Simonâs book about drug abuse and poverty in Baltimore, which won three Emmys. Mr. Mills also created the NBC series âKingpin,â about a Mexican drug cartel, which was shown in 2003. HBO said Wednesday in a statement: HBO is deeply saddened by the sudden loss of our dear friend and colleague David Mills. He was a gracious and humble man, and will be sorely missed by those who knew and loved him, as well as those who were aware of his immense talent. David has left us too soon but his brilliant work will live on. Mr. Mills also chronicled his passion for music at his blog, Undercover Black Man . Before writing for television, he worked as a journalist and gained national attention for a 1992 interview with the hip-hop performer Sister Souljah in The Washington Post, in which she said, âIf black people kill black people every day, why not have a week and kill white people?â When the Rainbow Coalition later invited Sister Souljah to speak at its convention, the group was criticized by Gov. Bill Clinton, then a candidate for the Democratic presidential nomination, who cited Mr. Millsâs interview.
[scifinoir2] Re: OT: In all this talk about Kanye... What about Serena?
I think it was built up frustration on Serena's part. She's had a history of getting shafted by the officials in several big matches. Add that to the hostile atmosphere of seing your foreign opponent being cheered more than you at the frakin' U.S. Open and she blew a gasket. For the line judge to call a questionable foot fault at that stage of the match was unthinkable. I'm not saying she was right...but I understand. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote: As stupid as what Kanye did. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: aubrey.leatherw...@... Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 20:00:48 -0400 Subject: [scifinoir2] OT: In all this talk about Kanye... What about Serena? Anyone want to weigh in with thoughts on what the younger Williams daughter did Saturday at the US Open? Aubrey Leatherwood www.aubreyleatherwood.com FaceBook * MySpace Dime Coming November 2 from Phaze Books Imperfection A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex. The People You Know, The Sex They Have ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008 ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0 Ready for Fall shows? Use Bing to find helpful ratings and reviews on digital tv's. Click here. _ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222986/direct/01/
[scifinoir2] Re: Zombies
Zombies work as social commentary, the fear of contagion, a sign of the apocolypse, humanity stripped down to its hungry, animal core, etc. It's a wide open genre and there's more than enough room to have an interesting take on the subject without having to deconstruct it. Personally, I love zombie stories and movies of various stripes. The only ones I don't like are the ones from Brian Keene and few others that feature intelligent zeds, those possessed by demons and the like. I like the Romero variety. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, grayson.reyescole grayson.reyesc...@... wrote: Seriously people, what is the fascination with them? I know I've been off loop for awhile... that's what happens when you only have 36 hours in a day (I double count what folks might call sleepytime) but I've just seen the Zombieland commercial and while it looked funny, It made me ask this question all over again. What is up with zombies? Why are people fascinated by them? why are they such an enduring group of beasties? --Grayson who does not get zombies unless they are humorous
[scifinoir2] Re: OT: In all this talk about Kanye... What about Serena?
The sad thing is even on video you couldn't even tell if her toe nudged the line. So for a judge to make that call and lead into match point was a headslapper. The funny thing to me is hypocrisy of the bad boy of tennis John McEnroe and others. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote: Understand that entirely. And, to add in a point that may weigh into her thoughts, I remember watching Bjorn Borg's last match at Wimbledon. At one point in the second set, I saw that the line judge on Borg's side of the court was asleep. And I mean *snoring* asleep. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: daikaij...@... Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 15:56:41 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: In all this talk about Kanye... What about Serena? I think it was built up frustration on Serena's part. She's had a history of getting shafted by the officials in several big matches. Add that to the hostile atmosphere of seing your foreign opponent being cheered more than you at the frakin' U.S. Open and she blew a gasket. For the line judge to call a questionable foot fault at that stage of the match was unthinkable. I'm not saying she was right...but I understand. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ wrote: As stupid as what Kanye did. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: aubrey.leatherwood@ Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 20:00:48 -0400 Subject: [scifinoir2] OT: In all this talk about Kanye... What about Serena? Anyone want to weigh in with thoughts on what the younger Williams daughter did Saturday at the US Open? Aubrey Leatherwood www.aubreyleatherwood.com FaceBook * MySpace Dime Coming November 2 from Phaze Books Imperfection A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex. The People You Know, The Sex They Have ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008 ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0 Ready for Fall shows? Use Bing to find helpful ratings and reviews on digital tv's. Click here. __ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222986/direct/01/ _ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222985/direct/01/
[scifinoir2] Re: Zombies
Both have their uses. The fast Dawn of the Dead '04 variety are terrifying but the Return of the Living Dead versions were worse because they were fast and retained some intelligence and had to be completely destroyed before they stopped trying to eat you. I loved the infected of 28 Days Later too although they technically aren't zeds. The Romero vintage shamblers are great because one or two you can fight off or kill. But their moans or other noises attract more and more zeds to the party sooner or later you're in too deep. Have you ever read World War Z or The Zombie Survival Guide? Great stuff. Max Brooks has a new book where he'll flesh out some of the historical outbreaks mentioned in The Zombie Survival Guide. So we'll get zombies in Roman times, the Old West and others. Fun stuff. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote: Slow or fast variety? Just curious. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: daikaij...@... Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 17:43:33 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Zombies Zombies work as social commentary, the fear of contagion, a sign of the apocolypse, humanity stripped down to its hungry, animal core, etc. It's a wide open genre and there's more than enough room to have an interesting take on the subject without having to deconstruct it. Personally, I love zombie stories and movies of various stripes. The only ones I don't like are the ones from Brian Keene and few others that feature intelligent zeds, those possessed by demons and the like. I like the Romero variety. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, grayson.reyescole grayson.reyescole@ wrote: Seriously people, what is the fascination with them? I know I've been off loop for awhile... that's what happens when you only have 36 hours in a day (I double count what folks might call sleepytime) but I've just seen the Zombieland commercial and while it looked funny, It made me ask this question all over again. What is up with zombies? Why are people fascinated by them? why are they such an enduring group of beasties? --Grayson who does not get zombies unless they are humorous _ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222984/direct/01/
[scifinoir2] Re: news: Its Alive... Remake
Well we all see how well his Halloween reboot went. Zombie's The Devil's Rejects is a nasty and damned good modern take on the 70s hard horror fare. It seems that his own vision is entertaining and fresh but his reboots...not so much. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote: Another step down the short path to Total Stupidity... If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@... Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 04:31:12 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] news: Its Alive... Remake Rob Zombie is remaking The Blob, which will be its second remake. He stated that modern audiences won't be impressed by a bloblike creature, so is working on a reimaging of the creature. (How can you make a blob movie about something that's not a blob?) - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 11:24:05 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] news: Its Alive... Remake Sit back while we watch them remake every movie and tv show from the 70s and 80s. http://www.worstpreviews.com/headline.php?id=15030 _ Ready for Fall shows? Use Bing to find helpful ratings and reviews on digital tv's. http://www.bing.com/shopping/search?q=digital+tv'sform=MSHNCBpubl=WLHMTAGcrea=TEXT_MSHNCB_Vertical_Shopping_DigitalTVs_1x1
[scifinoir2] Re: Supernatural has evolved beyond angels and demons
Yes, Lilith was the final seal and killing her released Lucifer. Ruby manipulated Sam by feeding him her blood and the blood of demons they were hunting and killing. This allowed Sam's powers to grow strong enough to kill Lilith. He thought he was doing the right thing but it was all part of the demons plans. He turned on Sam after Sam and Bobby tried to detox him and keep him away from Ruby. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: Wow! Thanks. Did Dean kill Lillith? What was the deal about Dean saying Sam chose a demon over his own brother? As for the blood, was Sam drinking demon blood or something? - Original Message - From: daikaiju66 daikaij...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 10:39:33 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Supernatural has evolved beyond angels and demons Dean and Bobby tried to stop Sam but his addiction to demon blood and powers were too strong. Turns out that Sam was being manipulated by Ruby to break the final seal. He thought he was preparing to stop Lillith by killing her but in reality she was the final seal and killing her released Lucifer. Ruby's temptation of Sam and betrayal was all part of Azazel's gambit to free Lucifer. The angels were also manipulating both of the brothers. They pulled Dean out of hell because he was their weapon in the coming war. They never intended to stop Sam but actually forced him along the path to free Lucifer. They wanted to speed up Armageddon because God left the building. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: Yep, I missed the last half of last season. What did Sam do to betray Dean? Something about his demonic abilities raging out of control, a need for blood or something, and choosing a demon lady over Dean? and last night they hinted that Sam had lost most of his demon powers? What's the scoop? - Original Message - From: daikaiju66 daikaiju66@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 10:12:11 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Supernatural has evolved beyond angels and demons I think the showrunner wants one more season but how do you top Lucifer as the bid bad? Last night was a great start to the new season. Lucifer is going to be a very interesting character and the scenes of hm tormenting and tempting his eventual vessel were well done. The angels got a bit a surprise as well when they found out the Boss wasn't happy with their plans. They were itching to go to war with Lucifer but the thought of an angry Jehovah(by way of a ressurected Castiel) taking a more active role in things terrified them. The Winchester boys are in way too deep. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: Good show. The main actors are ready to move on, I hear. They want to go out while the show's doing well and before they both get too bored with it. - Original Message - From: ravenadal ravenadal@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 5:44:11 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Supernatural has evolved beyond angels and demons http://aveingoh.notlong.com chicagotribune.com The Watcher: 'Supernatural' has evolved beyond angels and demons Maureen Ryan TV critic September 10, 2009 The first half of Supernatural's debut season gave few indications of what the show would become. Back in 2005, as is the case now, there were monsters, ghouls and demons on the prowl. Two brothers, Sam and Dean Winchester (Jared Padalecki and Jensen Ackles), would go from city to city in their 1967 Impala and hunt these otherworldly critters down, frequently quipping along the way. But creator Eric Kripke is well aware that Supernatural, which returns for its fifth season at 8 p.m. Thursday on WGN-Ch. 9, has evolved far beyond the idea he pitched several years ago. Season 5 depicts the brothers trying to stop the apocalypse, dealing with the arrival of Lucifer (Mark Pellegrino) and other significant events. Yet the focus of this solid, compelling and funny (yes, funny!) show remains admirably clear: Supernatural is less about monsters and more about familial bonds and how they somehow survive self-doubt and radical tests of loyalty. When the show began, Sam and Dean were merely an engine to get us in and out of different horror movies every week, Kripke said in an interview at San Diego Comic-Con in July. Then Kripke had an epiphany: Padalecki and Ackles' subtle skills and palpable chemistry could anchor a much more emotionally compelling story
[scifinoir2] Re: Old Boy
Don't hold your breath. Will and Co. are making a movie from the original manga which is quite different in some ways. The plot elements that are such a gut punch and knife twist are from the movie. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, ravenadal ravena...@... wrote: I just finished watching Old Boy and I feel kinda dazed and bruised. Woo-jin Lee (as played by Jin-Tae Yu) is as diabolical a fiend as I have ever seen on the screen. I can see why Will Smith would be attracted to this material. I know his essaying the role of Dae-su Oh is not popular here, but Old Boy would complete his personal trilogy comprising I Am Legend and Seven Pounds. Interestingly, I think Smith would be better cast as the glib, polished (yet haunted) Woo-jin Lee. Frankly, though, I don't think even Big Willie can sell this story to American audiences. ~rave!
[scifinoir2] Re: Steven Seagal: Lawman
I know people at home are just waiting to be pulled over by Seagal. I wwould probably end up in the Jefferson Parish jail for laughing uncontrollably. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote: Mr Worf, accept your First Laugh of the Morn Award! If this had been the Seagal of twenty-odd years ago, then it might be interesting. Based on his latest string of C-movies, some punk may try to take him on to up their street cred. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@... Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 19:22:39 -0700 Subject: [scifinoir2] Steven Seagal: Lawman I thought this was a joke, but its real!!! Steven Seagal hits the streets of LA as a cop in a reality tv show. Lawdy http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1329291/ _ With Windows Live, you can organize, edit, and share your photos. http://www.windowslive.com/Desktop/PhotoGallery
[scifinoir2] Re: Supernatural has evolved beyond angels and demons
I think the showrunner wants one more season but how do you top Lucifer as the bid bad? Last night was a great start to the new season. Lucifer is going to be a very interesting character and the scenes of hm tormenting and tempting his eventual vessel were well done. The angels got a bit a surprise as well when they found out the Boss wasn't happy with their plans. They were itching to go to war with Lucifer but the thought of an angry Jehovah(by way of a ressurected Castiel) taking a more active role in things terrified them. The Winchester boys are in way too deep. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: Good show. The main actors are ready to move on, I hear. They want to go out while the show's doing well and before they both get too bored with it. - Original Message - From: ravenadal ravena...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 5:44:11 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Supernatural has evolved beyond angels and demons http://aveingoh.notlong.com chicagotribune.com The Watcher: 'Supernatural' has evolved beyond angels and demons Maureen Ryan TV critic September 10, 2009 The first half of Supernatural's debut season gave few indications of what the show would become. Back in 2005, as is the case now, there were monsters, ghouls and demons on the prowl. Two brothers, Sam and Dean Winchester (Jared Padalecki and Jensen Ackles), would go from city to city in their 1967 Impala and hunt these otherworldly critters down, frequently quipping along the way. But creator Eric Kripke is well aware that Supernatural, which returns for its fifth season at 8 p.m. Thursday on WGN-Ch. 9, has evolved far beyond the idea he pitched several years ago. Season 5 depicts the brothers trying to stop the apocalypse, dealing with the arrival of Lucifer (Mark Pellegrino) and other significant events. Yet the focus of this solid, compelling and funny (yes, funny!) show remains admirably clear: Supernatural is less about monsters and more about familial bonds and how they somehow survive self-doubt and radical tests of loyalty. When the show began, Sam and Dean were merely an engine to get us in and out of different horror movies every week, Kripke said in an interview at San Diego Comic-Con in July. Then Kripke had an epiphany: Padalecki and Ackles' subtle skills and palpable chemistry could anchor a much more emotionally compelling story about two young men who lost their parents and sometimes come close to losing faith in themselves and each other. To me, the story is about, 'Can the strength of family overcome destiny and fate, and can family save the world?' Kripke said. [My worldview] is that the only thing that matters is family and personal connection; that's the only thing that gives life meaning. The show's fourth season upped the stakes in several ways: When he thought his brother was dead, Sam became addicted to demon blood and experimented with dangerous powers. Dean, who'd been sent to hell to fulfill a contract, was pulled out by an angel, but only after going through terrifying experiences, some of which left him guilt-ridden. Kripke said the show had always planned to bring in ever more powerful demons, including Lucifer, but he hadn't thought about adding angels until Season 3 was over. We [always] wanted this 'Lord of the Rings' scope, but we could never have it because we couldn't afford these massive battles, Kripke said. But ... now you can have these two massive armies of demons and angels -- they can mesh and clash in a way that's really satisfying, and [you can have the giant clashes] just off-camera. We slap our forehead against our hands, and say, 'Why didn't we think of it sooner?' he said. Look at 'Star Wars' for a moment. You have this massive empire, and you have this massive rebellion. But the story is about one farm boy, a princess and a pirate. To read the transcript of the full interview with Kripke, go to bit.ly/xrP8d. Copyright © 2009, Chicago Tribune
[scifinoir2] Re: OT: Congressman Joe Wilson Calls Obama Liar During Speech
Yes but you know no one wearing an opposition t-shirt let alone a gun was allowed within a mile of Bush when he was president. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: That frightens me no end. When Cindy Sheehan used to park outside Bush's Crawford ranch and stage protests, the Right was all over her. They said she was nuts, said she was stirring up trouble, often spoke of the dangerous climate she was creating. Yet the silence on people wearing guns near Obama is deafening. I know it's a state's right thing, but shouldn't there be a way to modify laws where people can't carry guns within a certain distance of the President? Or is there already such a provision in state laws that require these nuts to keep their distance? - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 7:50:39 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Congressman Joe Wilson Calls Obama Liar During Speech (standing ovation) I've talked about the nutjobs who carried guns at the Obama healthcare event awhile back. One of the still-stunning things about that was the sheer number of people who watched that and, knowing that there have been numerous death threats against the President, that it was sheer idiocy to carry guns to such an event, still saw nothing wrong with it. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@... Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 04:04:17 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Congressman Joe Wilson Calls Obama Liar During Speech I am reminded of the history of King Henry II and his battles with the Archbishop of Canterbury, Thomas Becket. Frustrated with Becket's resistance to his attempt to gain more control over the Church, Henry was said to have exclaimed one day Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?! (The real history suggests he said something much less dramatically pithy, something along the lines of What miserable drones and traitors have I nourished and brought up in my household, who let their lord be treated with such shameful contempt by a low-born cleric?) Whatever his exact words, Henry's statement was interpreted by several of his knights as a desire to have Becket eliminated, and later, four of them murdered the archbishop most violently, literally cutting off the top of his head with their swords, and scattering his brains along the pavement. As I listen to senators and congressmen, former governors and journalists, parents, teachers, and preachers bewail and bemoan the danger of Obama, I think of that event. We already have people wearing sidearms around Obama, and parents so stupid they believe he's subliminally programming their kids. How much more will it take for some overzealous fool to see and hear in the words and actions of Boehner and others a command to rid them of this President? And who will claim responsibility for creating the climate that led to such a tragic attempt? - Original Message - From: daikaiju66 daikaij...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 9:22:03 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Congressman Joe Wilson Calls Obama Liar During Speech According to some sources he made some veiled statements about disrupting or making a scene during the President's speech on Labor Day. If this is the case he needs to be censured. This stuff definitely needs to end. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ wrote: (standing ovation) And, just to beat the band, he was lying himself. Section 246 of the bill clearly states that illegal aliens would NOT be covered under the program in any way. And he apologized afterward, ONLY because of his outburst. He still lies in his insistence that he was right in his words. I will drop him a line the minute I'm done here. And I'll throw in You might want to read the bill.) If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: KeithBJohnson@ Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 02:17:03 + Subject: [scifinoir2] OT: Congressman Joe Wilson Calls Obama Liar During Speech Folks, I don't usually get into the write this person or call that one thing, but you know sometimes enough is enough. For weeks--months--we've listened to the Right call Obama a terrorist, socialist, and even (thank you Mr
[scifinoir2] Re: Supernatural has evolved beyond angels and demons
Dean and Bobby tried to stop Sam but his addiction to demon blood and powers were too strong. Turns out that Sam was being manipulated by Ruby to break the final seal. He thought he was preparing to stop Lillith by killing her but in reality she was the final seal and killing her released Lucifer. Ruby's temptation of Sam and betrayal was all part of Azazel's gambit to free Lucifer. The angels were also manipulating both of the brothers. They pulled Dean out of hell because he was their weapon in the coming war. They never intended to stop Sam but actually forced him along the path to free Lucifer. They wanted to speed up Armageddon because God left the building. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: Yep, I missed the last half of last season. What did Sam do to betray Dean? Something about his demonic abilities raging out of control, a need for blood or something, and choosing a demon lady over Dean? and last night they hinted that Sam had lost most of his demon powers? What's the scoop? - Original Message - From: daikaiju66 daikaij...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 10:12:11 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Supernatural has evolved beyond angels and demons I think the showrunner wants one more season but how do you top Lucifer as the bid bad? Last night was a great start to the new season. Lucifer is going to be a very interesting character and the scenes of hm tormenting and tempting his eventual vessel were well done. The angels got a bit a surprise as well when they found out the Boss wasn't happy with their plans. They were itching to go to war with Lucifer but the thought of an angry Jehovah(by way of a ressurected Castiel) taking a more active role in things terrified them. The Winchester boys are in way too deep. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: Good show. The main actors are ready to move on, I hear. They want to go out while the show's doing well and before they both get too bored with it. - Original Message - From: ravenadal ravenadal@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 5:44:11 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Supernatural has evolved beyond angels and demons http://aveingoh.notlong.com chicagotribune.com The Watcher: 'Supernatural' has evolved beyond angels and demons Maureen Ryan TV critic September 10, 2009 The first half of Supernatural's debut season gave few indications of what the show would become. Back in 2005, as is the case now, there were monsters, ghouls and demons on the prowl. Two brothers, Sam and Dean Winchester (Jared Padalecki and Jensen Ackles), would go from city to city in their 1967 Impala and hunt these otherworldly critters down, frequently quipping along the way. But creator Eric Kripke is well aware that Supernatural, which returns for its fifth season at 8 p.m. Thursday on WGN-Ch. 9, has evolved far beyond the idea he pitched several years ago. Season 5 depicts the brothers trying to stop the apocalypse, dealing with the arrival of Lucifer (Mark Pellegrino) and other significant events. Yet the focus of this solid, compelling and funny (yes, funny!) show remains admirably clear: Supernatural is less about monsters and more about familial bonds and how they somehow survive self-doubt and radical tests of loyalty. When the show began, Sam and Dean were merely an engine to get us in and out of different horror movies every week, Kripke said in an interview at San Diego Comic-Con in July. Then Kripke had an epiphany: Padalecki and Ackles' subtle skills and palpable chemistry could anchor a much more emotionally compelling story about two young men who lost their parents and sometimes come close to losing faith in themselves and each other. To me, the story is about, 'Can the strength of family overcome destiny and fate, and can family save the world?' Kripke said. [My worldview] is that the only thing that matters is family and personal connection; that's the only thing that gives life meaning. The show's fourth season upped the stakes in several ways: When he thought his brother was dead, Sam became addicted to demon blood and experimented with dangerous powers. Dean, who'd been sent to hell to fulfill a contract, was pulled out by an angel, but only after going through terrifying experiences, some of which left him guilt-ridden. Kripke said the show had always planned to bring in ever more powerful demons, including Lucifer, but he hadn't thought about adding angels until Season 3 was over. We [always] wanted this 'Lord of the Rings' scope, but we could never have it because
[scifinoir2] Re: OT: Congressman Joe Wilson Calls Obama Liar During Speech
According to some sources he made some veiled statements about disrupting or making a scene during the President's speech on Labor Day. If this is the case he needs to be censured. This stuff definitely needs to end. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote: (standing ovation) And, just to beat the band, he was lying himself. Section 246 of the bill clearly states that illegal aliens would NOT be covered under the program in any way. And he apologized afterward, ONLY because of his outburst. He still lies in his insistence that he was right in his words. I will drop him a line the minute I'm done here. And I'll throw in You might want to read the bill.) If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@... Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 02:17:03 + Subject: [scifinoir2] OT: Congressman Joe Wilson Calls Obama Liar During Speech Folks, I don't usually get into the write this person or call that one thing, but you know sometimes enough is enough. For weeks--months--we've listened to the Right call Obama a terrorist, socialist, and even (thank you Mr. Beck) a racist. He's been labeled Nazi, Christian ministers are praying for his death, and parents lost their minds trying to deny their kids the option to listen to him give a fairly safe, canned Stay in school and study hard speech. (Oddly enough, I didn't see any kiddies roaming around today burning down buildings, quoting Marx, or kissing the Koran). Obama has been subjected to more hatred, lies, and vitriol than i can remember in my life, and it's not just of the political type. We've had guys standing outside buildings where he's located, wearing sidearms, something that chills me to my bones. Small wonder that the Secret Service has given him more protection than any Prez in history. I hear he has four times as many death threats as is normal for a President. And of course, the health care debate has been a prime example of the hatred and lies surrounding him, with charges of death panels, socialism, government takeovers, etc., running rampant. It's been disgusting, it's been infuriating, it's been maddening. But I've tried to stay the course, to wade and cut through the garbage of the Right as I try to search for the truth. I've tried to stay above the stench of it all. But tonight, enough was enough. During Obama's speech, South Carolina representative Joe Wilson clearly yells you lie! at the President's assertion that illegal immigrants won't be covered under his health care plan. View the video and see the picture of him here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/09/gop-rep-wilson-yells-out_n_281480.html My feelings about that aside--my feelings about *any* of the policies being discussed aside--this moment sickened me. Have we come so far, has the Right become so emboldened, that it's okay to call the President a liar on television?? It's okay that an image beamed around the world shows disrespect for our duly elected leader, a man trying to do something to help the dispossessed? Is the office so contemptible now that you don't even respect it, if not the man? I've seen some things during Obama's rise, but this is going too far. In one statement, Wilson has crystalized and symbolized all the ignorance, hatred, disrespect, danger, foolishness, and intolerance that has characterized this debate. This, then, is the fruition and completion of Palin, still talking death panels today. This is the result of Glen Beck's charges of racism and witch hunts against good men. This then, is the depth to which some in America have fallen, and it has got to stop. This is no longer irritating, it's dangerous. In an environment where people wear sidearms around the President and feel empowered to call him a liar to his face, something is very, very wrong--and we have to take a step to stop it. I'm taking a small step tonight. I am trying to e-mail and call Joe Wilson to express my disgust and displeasure at what he's done. I say trying because all communication methods are currently busy. Phone lies busy, website, slow. But I provide the below links and ask you to do the same. And then, maybe we need to get John Boehner's contact info as well and let him know how disgusting this is. It's time to draw a line in the sand of this foolishness and hate. Let's start the line in S.C. Contact info for Wilson is below: Send an e-mail to him here: http://www.house.gov/formwilson/IMA/issue.htm Contact info (all numbers have been busy since I've tried them tonight) The Midlands' Office 1700 Sunset Blcd (US 378), Suite 1 West Columbia, SC 29169
[scifinoir2] Re: The Life and Times of Martha Washington in 21st Century
It's my birthday present to myself. It will go right next to Absolute Watchmen on my bookshelf after I read it five or six times. I love the original series but my favorite is the short story where a young Martha is sent out to retrieve their version of Captain America dead or alive. Those few pages captured what made Cap so great and iconic and did the same for Martha. When Miller was on he great. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote: As a Poor Black Man, I can't even afford to *touch* the trigger... If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: ravena...@... Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 14:47:25 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: The Life and Times of Martha Washington in 21st Century This thing is 600 pages long and lists for nearly one hundred bucks ($99.95)! It is currently available for $62.97 on Amazon.com (you can save 37%). Lordy! And, yet, I think I'm gonna pull da trigger! ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, ravenadal ravenadal@ wrote: http://lamico.notlong.com The Life and Times of Martha Washington in the Twenty-First Century HC Frank Miller (W) and Dave Gibbons (A) A masterpiece nearly twenty years in the making, this archival, oversized, and slipcased hardcover volume contains the complete life story of Martha Washington, the twenty-first century freedom fighter created by comic-book megastars Frank Miller (Sin City, 300) and Dave Gibbons (Watchmen). Our story begins in the squalid corridors of a maximum-security housing project, where a young girl will rise from the war-torn streets of Chicago to battle injustice in a world insane with corruption. She will be called a hero, a traitor, and nearly everything in between, but all along the way, her courage, her integrity, and her unwavering commitment to that most valuable of rights-liberty-will inspire a movement that will never surrender. Collecting meticulously remastered versions of every Martha Washington story, and features a comprehensive behind-the-scenes section, a new introduction by Frank Miller and extensive commentary by Dave Gibbons. _ With Windows Live, you can organize, edit, and share your photos. http://www.windowslive.com/Desktop/PhotoGallery
[scifinoir2] Re: DC Screws McDuffie and Buries Milestone
It was a little more complicated because McDuffie wasn't the only creator/owner involved. Some of the others may have decided to take the money and run. The sad thing is this probably the best outcome for the creators because of the animosity and apathy that comic fandom as a whole has towards characters that aren't white would have limited a full fledged relaunch of that universe. I just hope we get the collected editions of the comics that DC promised. I hope Dwayne continues to thrive in the world of animation because DC (and Marvel to some degree) did him dirty in the last few years. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Milton Davis mv_media_...@... wrote: They might not have had a choice. Aquisition negotiations always favor the company with the money. It basically comes down to 'if you want my money, this is what I want.' The owners of Milestone may have sold the company thinking DC would put their weight behind the Milestone projects. They were probably told as as much. Once they relequished the rights that dream was dead. I'm sure the owners made a killing, but within that they lost control of their creations and they may have been okay with that. They got paid and they got to fulfill their dream, working for a major comic book company. --- On Fri, 9/4/09, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] DC Screws McDuffie and Buries Milestone To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 4:36 AM I'm too depressed to comment. I was with Milestone from the first issues of Hardware, Static (Don't Start None, and there won't be None!), Blood Syndicate, then later, My Name is Holocaust, Shadow Cabinet, Xombi. Great stuff, great to see black people in major roles in comics. Hell, great to see a black female character finally drawn with a *butt*! I was heartbroken when Milestone died, and cautiously optimistic when DC pulled this deal. I just never felt that a company that caters to the mainstream was going to be able, capable, or willing to treat characters of color with respect, and guess I was right. Damn shame. I do wonder though, why did the guys license away all their rights wholesale? Why the hell not work out a deal where they could lease them out temporarily, or only for specific projects? But to give away all rights in perpetuity to your creations--not a good move! - Original Message - From: ravenadal ravena...@yahoo. com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2009 9:58:06 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] DC Screws McDuffie and Buries Milestone http://selux. notlong.com DC Screws McDuffie and Buries Milestone Source: Pop Culture Shock Pop Culture Shock posted a great article here about the plight of Dwayne McDuffie and the Milestone characters. I am not going to go over the ins and outs of the events leading up to the subject of the article, but to summarize my understanding is that DC signed McDuffie to write for the JLA, and then handcuffed him by taking away the Big 3 (Supes, Bats, and WW) and then basically limiting him to the C,D and E team characters. As part of DCs overall deal with McDuffie, they also acquired the Milestone line of characters, including Static. Obviously, due to the popularity of Static, its apparent that the whole thing was to get control of Static for use in the DC universe. EDIT: BTW-check out the Pop Culture Shock link because it has an interview with McDuffie about the whole ordeal. http://www.popcultu reshock.com/ didio-plans- milestoners- static/50200/ I am pretty sure that DC's committment to integrating the Milestone characters into the DC universe was a temporary ruse. It seems that DC is notorius for picking up popular characters and comic lines just so they can't be used anywhere else. So, here we have DC picking up Milestone and deciding not to use the characters at all, except for the one they wanted: Static (now appearing as a member of Teen Titans). The end result being that McDuffie can't even use or license those characters to anyone else (Marvel), or use them in a relaunch of Milestone (not saying that was likely, but the time IMO is right). DC takes the characters and places them on the shelf. Can't say I'm not surprised to see McDuffie get screwed over by DC. It isn't like they were very welcoming from the get go. I remember how hyped I was when Milestone first started. Comic books for black people by black people. Recently, I evengot copies of every single Milestone comic. It was revolutionary and those guys were ahead of their time. It was also giving black artists and writers who weren't getting gigs at Marvel and DC a place to showcase their talent and many careers were launched as a result. At that time there wasn't a lot of support for Milestone, and it didn't
[scifinoir2] Re: comment: The FCC and broadband
I saw that crap. What they are trying to do is a typical protect the bottom line corporate dodge. And meanwhile the world marches further into the 21st century. BTW Australia is implementing a national broadband network. So that whole size of the landmass b***s*** they are trying to use to redifine broadband is a bunch of hogwash. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote: BASTICHES. Screw us over at any turn, they will. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: politicalpe...@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@... Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 16:57:00 -0700 Subject: [scifinoir2] comment: The FCC and broadband Broadband companies have been petitioning the FCC this week to change the definition of what can be called broadband. That means that if they succeed that they can slow down the speed to 128k and still call it broadband. It is possible that ATT, Comcast and others are trying to change the definition so they don't have to spend money bringing broadband to rural customers. Many of whom don't receive anything or very slow dialup. This way they can squeak by and pocket the rest of the money that Obama is offering them. Meanwhile in Japan and Europe they have 80megbits per second speeds. Did you know that we are ranked at 19th in the world for internet speed? Here is a video on it: http://g4tv.com/attackoftheshow/theloop/68292/FCC-Broadband-Speed-Limit-Debate.html -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ _ Hotmail® is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=PID23391::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HYGN_faster:082009
[scifinoir2] Re: adding to the sequel madness
Throw in Mrs. Doubtfire and Tootsie and have a tag team match for supremacy. Then the winners have to face the ladies of Too Wong Foo. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, wlro...@... wrote: OK how about Big Mama meets Madea, that would be a ender. How about a title, You can really do bad by yourself. --Lavender From: Mr. Worf Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 7:15 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] adding to the sequel madness They are making Big Mama 3 People may lie, but the evidence rarely does.
[scifinoir2] Re: Movie review: Lady Vengeance
It's flashier but I think Sympathy For Mr. Vengeance is the better movie. I love the fact that it plays out like a Greek tradgedy. The main characters were good people driven to committing heinous acts that were preventable. They each have a point where if they turned left instead of right none of the tragedies would have occurred. And the ending is just such a gutpunch. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, tetsuwanatom1 tetsu...@... wrote: --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Omari Confer clockworkman@ wrote: How is no martial arts, no sex and no gunpay a con. btw you kinda have to see Old Boy first to appreciate this movie.. c w m Not really. All the works stand on their own. I like this one (Lady Vengeance) less over time but when I first saw it I thought it was perhaps a better film than Mr Vengeance, certainly better executed technically. On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 4:02 AM, Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ wrote: Looking at the trailer, and some of the promotional pictures for this film many people (including myself) may have mistaken this film for an action film. Upon view Lady Vengeance, we would have quickly discovered that we were COMPLETELY wrong. The complete title is 'Sympathy for Lady Vengeance' is part 3 of a trilogy of revenge films directed by Chan-wook Park. Each film has its own storyline and can be watched separately on its own. I suggest not viewing this film and trying to go to bed afterward. You may want to spend some time talking about it afterward. Lady Vengeance is the story of a woman that takes the rap for the kidnapping and murder of a 5yr old boy for reasons I cannot divulge. She does so willingly slowly suffering on a slow boil slowly plotting revenge on the person that put her there. This is a woman on a mission. She serves 13 years in a prison for the criminally insane and as soon as she is released, she is off to work. Park is a master story teller that can lull you into a false sense of direction making you forget just how twisted he is. He also has a good cinematic eye and a knack for latching onto strong sensitive topics that pull at your heart and mind while wallowing in it like a pig in an Olympic size swimming pool. The only weak spot in the film was a period near the middle where we spend time getting to know some of the favors that Lady Vengeance earns while she is in prison. Overall it is an interesting film with an even more interesting / psychologically challenging ending that will challenge your thinking about the justice system, the media, and the public's views on criminality. 4 out of 5 stars 99% Korean and 1% English. English subtitles. Available on Netflix. Cons: No martial art action. Very little gun play. Very little sex. No nudity. Pros: Twisted revenge flick. Great ending that will make you think. -- clockworkman blog http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com Netflix Friends http://www.netflix.com/BeMyFriend/P5Vr384ukvNnY78xUJOT
[scifinoir2] Re: Disney to buy Marvel Entertainment for $4 billion
*ahem* The Incredibles *ahem* I was thinking more along the lines of a Fantastic Four or Avengers film done by Brad Bird or some of the other Pixar folks who are big comic heads. -- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Bosco Bosco ironpi...@... wrote: Yes we can have Finding Wolverine, The Punisher, Inc. or A Hulk's Life. AAHHH KILL ME NOW B --- On Mon, 8/31/09, daikaiju66 daikaij...@... wrote: From: daikaiju66 daikaij...@... Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Disney to buy Marvel Entertainment for $4 billion To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 11:22 AM Nope. Fox still owns Toby and the Spider-Man film franchise. One silver lining: Part of the deal involves possible Marvel-Pixar collaborations. Yes --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ ... wrote: Sweet Christmas! This could mean that Tobey Maguire would do a turn as PP on The Suite Life On Deck as a visiting pyhsics teacher. Excuse me while I go catatonic... If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com From: ravenadal@ . Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 13:56:47 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Disney to buy Marvel Entertainment for $4 billion This is Christmas early for the stock holders at Marvel Entertainment. It is the death knell for a lot of great characters. ~(no)rave! August 31, 2009, 9:27 am Disney to Buy Marvel Entertainment for $4 Billion The Walt Disney Company said on Monday that it has agreed to buy Marvel Entertainment, bringing together the house of Mickey Mouse with the publisher of Spider-Man, for $4 billion in cash and stock. Under the terms of the deal, Disney will pay $30 a share in cash and .745 Disney shares for every Marvel share, with no less than 40 percent of the deal being made in stock. Disney valued the deal at $50 a share as of the companies' share prices on Friday. Isaac Perlmutter, Marvel's chief executive, will continue to oversee his company's properties, including more than 5,000 characters that also include Iron Man and the X-Men. Marvel has had a string of successful movies based on its characters, which analysts have praised in part for the company's taking an active role in their production. This transaction combines Marvel's strong global brand and world-renowned library of characters including Iron Man, Spider-Man, X-Men, Captain America, Fantastic Four and Thor with Disney's creative skills, unparalleled global portfolio of entertainment properties, and a business structure that maximizes the value of creative properties across multiple platforms and territories, Robert A. Iger, Disney's chief executive, said in a statement. Disney is the perfect home for Marvel's fantastic library of characters given its proven ability to expand content creation and licensing businesses, Mr. Perlmutter said. _ _ _ _ _ _ Windows Live: Make it easier for your friends to see what you're up to on Facebook. http://windowslive. com/Campaign/ SocialNetworking ?ocid=PID23285: :T:WLMTAGL: ON:WL:en- US:SI_SB_ facebook: 082009
[scifinoir2] Re: James Cameron's 'Avatar' a symbol of early buzz after preview
I watched the preview online and was underwhelmed but seeing the trailer on the big screen was quite an eye opener. The detail, color and scope play much better at the movies. I just hope the story isn't as trite as Cameron's synopsis made it seem. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote: H... Harry *likes* it. Says something, as he's been hating on a lot of flicks big time of late. And I liked what I saw from the last online preview I culled, though I managed to miss the one that Siffy tagged into Friday's repeat of Warehouse 13. (As I said in another forum, I think that I need to invest in a remembering-brain dog. Or did I say that here? Martin (spokesman for Multiple Concussions Are Bad) If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: ravena...@... Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 21:07:45 + Subject: [scifinoir2] James Cameron's 'Avatar' a symbol of early buzz after preview James Cameron's 'Avatar' a symbol of early buzz after preview BY Ethan Sacks and Christina Boyle DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITERS Sunday, August 23rd 2009, 2:52 AM Twentieth Century Fox The sci-fi world was buzzing Saturday after thousands of moviegoers around the world got a sneak preview of James Cameron's much-hyped 3-D epic Avatar. It's fairly spectacular, said Harry Knowles, founder of movie Web site Ain't It Cool News. We've never seen a 3-D science fiction film quite like this. From what I can tell, the vast majority of people really loved what they were seeing, he added. I'm incredibly hopeful for the film. The movie, which cost more than $200 million to make, is scheduled for general release Dec. 18, but more than 100,000 people in 58 countries got the chance to see a 16-minute preview after scoring free tickets online. It was a stunt designed to create buzz around the film - Cameron's first feature since Titanic, which holds the box-office record after grossing $1.84 billion worldwide. And if the early reviews on blogs and social networking pages were any indicator, it did the trick. The man who famously declared himself the King of the World on Oscar night 10 years ago has now become the ruler of an entire planet, declared New York film critic and blogger Eric Kohn on thewrap.com. Cameron's experiment with the ever-evolving art of buzz deserves recognition for its innovative approach. Avatar is set on the planet Pandora, where an ex-Marine, played by Sam Worthington, is one of a group of humans who have their brains linked to the native alien species so they can explore the environment. Sigourney Weaver, the star of Cameron's Aliens series, plays a botanist overseeing the mission. Avatar is going to be the cinematic event of this holiday season, blogger Kevin Carr wrote. The only way to experience 'Avatar' will be to watch it through a pair of high-end 3-D glasses on a screen 50 feet high. cbo...@... Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/movies/2009/08/23/2009-08-23_scifi_epic_avatar_a_symbol_of_buzz.html?print=1page=all#ixzz0PtK1CGIg _ Hotmail® is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=PID23391::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HYGN_faster:082009
[scifinoir2] Re: signing off for a while
Reece, Good luck and please keep us updated as much as possible. You're in our thoughts and prayers. Get well soon. And btw keep tabs on that Oxy. You never know when riffraff like Rush Limbaugh might crawl thru the window and try to snatch it. Take care. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Daryle Lockhart dar...@... wrote: Reese I already know you'll be fine, though temporal code of ethics prohibits me from sharing details. (one thing though. If a kid or a wild haired scientist comes asking about a book...) Looking forward to seeing you back in action! Daryle Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2009, at 6:05 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote: Our best rides with you, my friend. Come back strong. The Cosmos needs men such as you. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: mcjennings...@... Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 11:25:29 -0400 Subject: [scifinoir2] signing off for a while Hello everybody: I have to leave you for a while. Please keep my personal emails: mcjennings...@... mcjenning...@... (spit!!!) I had a doctor's appointment yesterday with my lung doc. He scheduled me to see a Thorasic Surgeon to set up a surgical biopsy. (Isn't that a dinosaur park? Oh! That's JURassic!) My appointment is Tuesday, Sept. 1. I will find out when the surgical biopsy is then. After the biopsy, 3 - 5 weeks healing for NORMAL activities , or surgery, depending on the results. My lung doc said there are 2 things he's trying to differentiate, and the PETSCAN I had can't help him. Sarcoids, which are benign lymph node issues, and Lymphoma, which is cancerous. Either way, there are still treatment issues after the biopsy results are in. I will be in touch off and on, but for now I gotta leave ya! Remember, y'all (y'all?) are family! Peace! Reece Jennings Windows Live: Keep your friends up to date with what you do online. Find out more.
[scifinoir2] Re: Movie review: Lady Vengeance
One my favorite things about the movie is Park's visual style. It's a beautiful piece of pop art. The set design, camerawork and subtle visual effects like the halo shot are eyepopping. It's the weakest of the three films but it's very good. The way she gets her revenge has to be seen to be believed. Once it gets to that portion of the film the tone shifts and you get into the meat of the movie. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote: Twisted revenge flick... I'm there. May pick up a few pointers. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@... Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 02:02:11 -0700 Subject: [scifinoir2] Movie review: Lady Vengeance Looking at the trailer, and some of the promotional pictures for this film many people (including myself) may have mistaken this film for an action film. Upon view Lady Vengeance, we would have quickly discovered that we were COMPLETELY wrong. The complete title is 'Sympathy for Lady Vengeance' is part 3 of a trilogy of revenge films directed by Chan-wook Park. Each film has its own storyline and can be watched separately on its own. I suggest not viewing this film and trying to go to bed afterward. You may want to spend some time talking about it afterward. Lady Vengeance is the story of a woman that takes the rap for the kidnapping and murder of a 5yr old boy for reasons I cannot divulge. She does so willingly slowly suffering on a slow boil slowly plotting revenge on the person that put her there. This is a woman on a mission. She serves 13 years in a prison for the criminally insane and as soon as she is released, she is off to work. Park is a master story teller that can lull you into a false sense of direction making you forget just how twisted he is. He also has a good cinematic eye and a knack for latching onto strong sensitive topics that pull at your heart and mind while wallowing in it like a pig in an Olympic size swimming pool. The only weak spot in the film was a period near the middle where we spend time getting to know some of the favors that Lady Vengeance earns while she is in prison. Overall it is an interesting film with an even more interesting / psychologically challenging ending that will challenge your thinking about the justice system, the media, and the public's views on criminality. 4 out of 5 stars 99% Korean and 1% English. English subtitles. Available on Netflix. Cons: No martial art action. Very little gun play. Very little sex. No nudity. Pros: Twisted revenge flick. Great ending that will make you think. _ With Windows Live, you can organize, edit, and share your photos. http://www.windowslive.com/Desktop/PhotoGallery
[scifinoir2] Re: Disney to buy Marvel Entertainment for $4 billion
Amen to that. I was just floored when I heard the news. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, ravenadal ravena...@... wrote: This is Christmas early for the stock holders at Marvel Entertainment. It is the death knell for a lot of great characters. ~(no)rave! August 31, 2009, 9:27 am Disney to Buy Marvel Entertainment for $4 Billion The Walt Disney Company said on Monday that it has agreed to buy Marvel Entertainment, bringing together the house of Mickey Mouse with the publisher of Spider-Man, for $4 billion in cash and stock. Under the terms of the deal, Disney will pay $30 a share in cash and .745 Disney shares for every Marvel share, with no less than 40 percent of the deal being made in stock. Disney valued the deal at $50 a share as of the companies' share prices on Friday. Isaac Perlmutter, Marvel's chief executive, will continue to oversee his company's properties, including more than 5,000 characters that also include Iron Man and the X-Men. Marvel has had a string of successful movies based on its characters, which analysts have praised in part for the company's taking an active role in their production. This transaction combines Marvel's strong global brand and world-renowned library of characters including Iron Man, Spider-Man, X-Men, Captain America, Fantastic Four and Thor with Disney's creative skills, unparalleled global portfolio of entertainment properties, and a business structure that maximizes the value of creative properties across multiple platforms and territories, Robert A. Iger, Disney's chief executive, said in a statement. Disney is the perfect home for Marvel's fantastic library of characters given its proven ability to expand content creation and licensing businesses, Mr. Perlmutter said.
[scifinoir2] Re: Holy Casting Call, Batman!
Eliza is pretty enough but she is a bit lightweight in the acting department. My picks: Rosario Dawson. Nuff said. Maggie Q. She was in Mission Impossible 3, Live Free or Die Hard and a ton of movies from Hong Kong. Her exotic looks(she's biracial- Asian and Caucasian), solid acting and action movie resume make her a good fit. Moon Bloodgood. Fits in the same box as Maggie Q in a lot of ways but with better name recognition. Unfortunately she's in her early 30s so that may be too old for Hollywood. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@... wrote: Completely disagree. :) ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/botdm.html Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/bamc.html Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 8:56 AM, Omari Confer clockwork...@...wrote: Eliza cant act.and is not pretty enough not to do so...real talk On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@... wrote: My dream casting for Catwoman? Eliza Dushku. She can do complex bad girl with an attitude, and she's wicked hot. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/botdm.html Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/bamc.html Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 7:33 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@...wrote: I agree but I doubt that they will. The only one that seems to take risks with casting is Tarantino and Zach Snyder. On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 8:08 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: You know my feelings about stunt casting. I'm not convinced the child can act, and I sure as hell don't want her slinking on the screen just looking good in a catsuit. Catwoman is--should be--a more complex, nuanced character. Despite the Julie Newmar/Eartha Kitt/Lee Meriwether/Halle Berry portrayals, her character can be fascinating. I'm looking for something more like the Catwoman from the Year One books after the DC Universe reboot brought on by the Crisis on Infinite Earths. Chris Nolan has mostly done great casting the Bat movies--with the horrible exception of Katie Holmes. I hope this is just gossip and he's not going to do this. Even if Catwoman is in the movie--and you know my vote is for Talia Al ghul instead--I'd hope he goes with a relative unknown actress who can actually bring some meat to the role. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:29:57 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Holy Casting Call, Batman! Because you didn't ask for it... Megan Fox is being considered for the role of Catwoman in Christopher Nolan's next Bat-flick... http://wonderwall.msn.com/movies/The-Shortlist-for-Aug-26-3865.gallery?GT1=28135#m=oZghMddAdLu If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- Windows Live: Make it easier for your friends to see what you're up to on Facebook. Find out more.http://windowslive.com/Campaign/SocialNetworking?ocid=PID23285::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:SI_SB_facebook:082009 -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- clockworkman blog http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com Netflix Friends http://www.netflix.com/BeMyFriend/P5Vr384ukvNnY78xUJOT
[scifinoir2] Re: Holy Casting Call, Batman!
I think you're a bit hard on Moon. she was pretty good in Terminator: Salvation and she seems to be a bit of a hot commodity right now. She's not a great actress but she might have the right mix of skills for the role. Unfortuantely I think she's commited to a tv series. Maggie Q can actually act a lil bit. For real. LOL. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Omari Confer clockwork...@... wrote: I agree with your first pick and disagree on your other 2...Moon is another that is only really working because she can read lines and is moderately attractive I think Eliza is pretty...but not Mila Jovich prettymeaning that it doesnt matter at all that she cant act because she is incredibly hot. Neither Eliza nor Mila nor Moon can actrealtalk On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 9:57 AM, daikaiju66 daikaij...@... wrote: Eliza is pretty enough but she is a bit lightweight in the acting department. My picks: Rosario Dawson. Nuff said. Maggie Q. She was in Mission Impossible 3, Live Free or Die Hard and a ton of movies from Hong Kong. Her exotic looks(she's biracial- Asian and Caucasian), solid acting and action movie resume make her a good fit. Moon Bloodgood. Fits in the same box as Maggie Q in a lot of ways but with better name recognition. Unfortunately she's in her early 30s so that may be too old for Hollywood. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, Adrianne Brennan adrianne.brennan@ wrote: Completely disagree. :) ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/botdm.html Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/bamc.html Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 8:56 AM, Omari Confer clockworkman@wrote: Eliza cant act.and is not pretty enough not to do so...real talk On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Adrianne Brennan adrianne.brennan@ wrote: My dream casting for Catwoman? Eliza Dushku. She can do complex bad girl with an attitude, and she's wicked hot. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/botdm.html Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/bamc.html Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 7:33 PM, Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@wrote: I agree but I doubt that they will. The only one that seems to take risks with casting is Tarantino and Zach Snyder. On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 8:08 PM, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: You know my feelings about stunt casting. I'm not convinced the child can act, and I sure as hell don't want her slinking on the screen just looking good in a catsuit. Catwoman is--should be--a more complex, nuanced character. Despite the Julie Newmar/Eartha Kitt/Lee Meriwether/Halle Berry portrayals, her character can be fascinating. I'm looking for something more like the Catwoman from the Year One books after the DC Universe reboot brought on by the Crisis on Infinite Earths. Chris Nolan has mostly done great casting the Bat movies--with the horrible exception of Katie Holmes. I hope this is just gossip and he's not going to do this. Even if Catwoman is in the movie--and you know my vote is for Talia Al ghul instead--I'd hope he goes with a relative unknown actress who can actually bring some meat to the role. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comscifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:29:57 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Holy Casting Call, Batman! Because you didn't ask for it... Megan Fox is being considered for the role of Catwoman in Christopher Nolan's next Bat-flick... http://wonderwall.msn.com/movies/The-Shortlist-for-Aug-26-3865.gallery?GT1=28135#m=oZghMddAdLu If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- Windows Live: Make it easier for your friends to see what you're up to on Facebook. Find out more. http://windowslive.com/Campaign/SocialNetworking?ocid=PID23285::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:SI_SB_facebook:082009 -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group
[scifinoir2] Re: Inglourious glorious for Roth
He was a real surprise as the Bear Jew. I couldn't believe he was the same guy. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, ravenadal ravena...@... wrote: http://ochel.notlong.com Working Both Sides of the Camera By Michael O'Sullivan Washington Post Staff Writer Friday, August 21, 2009 Don't make the mistake of calling Eli Roth's role in Inglourious Basterds, the new World War II-era drama from Quentin Tarantino, small. Roth's character of Sgt. Donny Donowitz, one of an elite, all-Jewish unit led by Brad Pitt that terrorizes and kills Nazis, is a meaty one, even if it's not the largest in the film. Known for his unorthodox weapon of choice -- a baseball bat -- Donny goes on a memorable killing spree at the climax of the film, a climax that's so over-the-top, so off-the-wall that it's safe to say that few will need to consult Wikipedia to verify that history really didn't turn out that way. In other words, typical Tarantino. There is no small role in a Tarantino film, says Roth, who spoke by phone about the movie. I wouldn't call Floyd in 'True Romance' a small role. I wouldn't call Christopher Walken's role in 'Pulp Fiction' a small role. There are good roles and bad roles. And Tarantino writes great roles. It's a part Roth says he auditioned for with a cameo in Tarantino's 2007 Death Proof. According to the 37-year-old actor (who's better known as the director of the gory horror films Cabin Fever, Hostel and Hostel II), Roth's acting made a lasting impression on his director. We were doing one or two takes, and it was not taken very seriously, as it was grindhouse. It was just supposed to be having fun. But [Tarantino] said, 'You nailed it.' He goes, 'You nailed my dialogue. I can always cut to you, every take, every time. You got it perfect.' This time around, Roth wanted to knock it out of the park. When he saw just how prominent the part of Donowitz was in the Basterds script, he was floored. I was, like, 'Jesus! This is one of the main guys. He's in every scene with Brad Pitt -- nearly every scene. He's his right-hand man.' I said, 'Look, if I'm going to do this, I've got to bring my A game. If Quentin has faith in me that I can do it, I have to push myself harder than I ever have. I have to be like Robert De Niro or something. And how. Roth bulked up for the part, putting on nearly 40 pounds of muscle, he says. He also spent time in his native Boston, interviewing Jewish veterans of World War II. You've got to look in this guy's eyes, Roth says of Donowitz, and see all the pain and the anger and the fury he's carrying around with him. But his real role model isn't a thespian like De Niro. Rather, Roth looks for inspiration from Ben Stiller, who has built a career not just around acting, but also writing, directing and producing. All Roth's hard work on this film -- he also directed the black-and-white film-within-a film that is a lynchpin of the Basterds plot -- will only pay off when people start seeing him as someone who can do it all, both in front of and behind the camera. I talked to Quentin about that, Roth says, recalling what his friend and mentor told him. He said Tarantino said: 'Now you have permission to write great parts for yourself, and no one's going to give you [expletive] about it. . . . Because you've proven you can go toe to toe with the best, and you've held your own against Brad Pitt.' If Roth is still a little touchy about his acting chops, he gets even more defensive when asked about being pigeonholed as the chief purveyor -- maybe even the inventor -- of the film genre known as torture porn, through the three features he has directed and the raft of violent copycat films that have followed. It's not that I set out to make that genre, he says, sighing, but that's what people call it. And people rip me off. Look, imitation is the highest form of flattery, and if people are ripping you off, it means you did something right. As further evidence, Roth cites the fact that French critic Jean-Francois Raugier of the newspaper Le Monde identified Hostel as the best American movie of 2006. His work is also the subject of college courses, Roth notes, and academic dissertations about the subtext of the blood-drenched films. When told just how funny that sounds, though, Roth really let's loose. I don't know why that's funny, he says, growing agitated. Why is it surprising? It's surprising because people that use the term 'torture porn' think that they're stupid movies. And the people that watch them and actually think about them, and think about what they're about, and analyze them realize that they're much smarter and much more subversive than most people give them credit for. So it's only funny to you because you've never thought about them that way. Okay, okay. Maybe Roth really does have a career as an actor ahead of him. For a
[scifinoir2] Re: Disney to buy Marvel Entertainment for $4 billion
Nope. Fox still owns Toby and the Spider-Man film franchise. One silver lining: Part of the deal involves possible Marvel-Pixar collaborations. Yes --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote: Sweet Christmas! This could mean that Tobey Maguire would do a turn as PP on The Suite Life On Deck as a visiting pyhsics teacher. Excuse me while I go catatonic... If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: ravena...@... Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 13:56:47 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Disney to buy Marvel Entertainment for $4 billion This is Christmas early for the stock holders at Marvel Entertainment. It is the death knell for a lot of great characters. ~(no)rave! August 31, 2009, 9:27 am Disney to Buy Marvel Entertainment for $4 Billion The Walt Disney Company said on Monday that it has agreed to buy Marvel Entertainment, bringing together the house of Mickey Mouse with the publisher of Spider-Man, for $4 billion in cash and stock. Under the terms of the deal, Disney will pay $30 a share in cash and .745 Disney shares for every Marvel share, with no less than 40 percent of the deal being made in stock. Disney valued the deal at $50 a share as of the companies' share prices on Friday. Isaac Perlmutter, Marvel's chief executive, will continue to oversee his company's properties, including more than 5,000 characters that also include Iron Man and the X-Men. Marvel has had a string of successful movies based on its characters, which analysts have praised in part for the company's taking an active role in their production. This transaction combines Marvel's strong global brand and world-renowned library of characters including Iron Man, Spider-Man, X-Men, Captain America, Fantastic Four and Thor with Disney's creative skills, unparalleled global portfolio of entertainment properties, and a business structure that maximizes the value of creative properties across multiple platforms and territories, Robert A. Iger, Disney's chief executive, said in a statement. Disney is the perfect home for Marvel's fantastic library of characters given its proven ability to expand content creation and licensing businesses, Mr. Perlmutter said. _ Windows Live: Make it easier for your friends to see what you're up to on Facebook. http://windowslive.com/Campaign/SocialNetworking?ocid=PID23285::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:SI_SB_facebook:082009
[scifinoir2] Re: OT: Madonna Booed for Condeming Discrimination Against Roma
I was aware of it. There is a great documentary about Django Reindhart that offers a glimpse into the treatment of the Roma today throughout Europe. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, George Arterberry brotherfromhow...@... wrote: While stationed in Bosnia/Croatia/Hungary I saw the pure hate directed towards them . --- On Fri, 8/28/09, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote: From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] OT: Madonna Booed for Condeming Discrimination Against Roma To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, August 28, 2009, 8:20 AM  Keith, I'll answer you with very little. Humanity=pathetic. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com From: KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 05:05:58 + Subject: [scifinoir2] OT: Madonna Booed for Condeming Discrimination Against Roma  Sad. I wonder how many Americans know anything about the Roma, outside of what they've seen in movies? * * * * *** http://omg.yahoo. com/news/ madonna-booed- in-bucharest- for-defending- gypsies/26947? nc BUCHAREST, Romania - At first, fans politely applauded the Roma performers sharing a stage with Madonna. Then the pop star condemned widespread discrimination against Roma, or Gypsies â and the cheers gave way to jeers. The sharp mood change that swept the crowd of 60,000, who had packed a park for Wednesday night's concert, underscores how prejudice against Gypsies remains deeply entrenched across Eastern Europe. Despite long-standing efforts to stamp out rampant bias, human rights advocates say Roma probably suffer more humiliation and endure more discrimination than any other people group on the continent. Sometimes, it can be deadly: In neighboring Hungary, six Roma have been killed and several wounded in a recent series of apparently racially motivated attacks targeting small countryside villages predominantly settled by Gypsies. There is generally widespread resentment against Gypsies in Eastern Europe. They have historically been the underdog, Radu Motoc, an official with the Soros Foundation Romania, said Thursday. Roma, or Gypsies, are a nomadic ethnic group believed to have their roots in the Indian subcontinent. They live mostly in southern and eastern Europe, but hundreds of thousands have migrated west over the past few decades in search of jobs and better living conditions. Romania has the largest number of Roma in the region. Some say the population could be as high as 2 million, although official data put it at 500,000. Until the 19th century, Romanian Gypsies were slaves, and they've gotten a mixed response ever since: While discrimination is widespread, many East Europeans are enthusiastic about Gypsy music and dance, which they embrace as part of the region's cultural heritage. That explains why the Roma musicians and a dancer who had briefly joined Madonna onstage got enthusiastic applause. And it also may explain why some in the crowd turned on Madonna when she paused during the two-hour show â a stop on her worldwide Sticky and Sweet tour â to touch on their plight. It has been brought to my attention ... that there is a lot of discrimination against Romanies and Gypsies in general in Eastern Europe, she said. It made me feel very sad. Thousands booed and jeered her. A few cheered when she added: We don't believe in discrimination ... we believe in freedom and equal rights for everyone. But she got more boos when she mentioned discrimination against homosexuals and others. I jeered her because it seemed false what she was telling us. What business does she have telling us these things? said Ionut Dinu, 23. Madonna did not react and carried on with her concert, held near the hulking palace of the late communist dictator Nicolae Ceausescu. Her publicist, Liz Rosenberg, said Madonna and other had told her there were cheers as well as jeers. Madonna has been touring with a phenomenal troupe of Roma musicians who made her aware of the discrimination toward them in several countries so she felt compelled to make a brief statement, Rosenberg said in an e-mail. She will not be issuing a further statement. One Roma musician said the attitude toward Gypsies is contradictory. Romanians watch Gypsy soap operas, they like Gypsy music and go to Gypsy concerts, said Damian Draghici, a Grammy Award-winner who has performed with James Brown and Joe Cocker. But there has been a wave of aggression against Roma people in Italy, Hungary and Romania, which shows me something is not OK, he told the AP in an interview. The politicians have to do something about it. People have to be educated not to be
[scifinoir2] Re: Samurai Jack Reruns on Boomerang
I've seen most of those. I love the shoes episode and the Scotsman was great fun. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: You have *got* to catch the one where he fights the Viking king...the ep where he's trapped amidst a book of the dead reanimated by Aku and has to fight and fight and fight to survive...the moving take on 300 that's an exciting battle..and eerie show that's mostly in black and white about a spirit infesting a home where horrors took place years before. And funny shows too, like both dealing with the Scotsman, whose sword and skills rival Jack's, but whose greatest weapon may be his rotund wife...the one where Jack loses his sandals and spends the show trying on all types of modern shoes, but keeps stumbling and falling and failing, much to the amusement of the gang he's trying to subdue--great stuff! - Original Message - From: daikaiju66 daikaij...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 9:23:59 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Samurai Jack Reruns on Boomerang Cool. There were quite a few episodes I never got to watch so now I can play catch up. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ wrote: Can't agree more, Keith. I still can't quite get Boomerang on my set yet. The digital signal keeps popping in and out constantly. Comcrap says that they may have given us bad set-top boxes. *Four* of them... (spit!) If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: KeithBJohnson@ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 04:25:44 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Samurai Jack Reruns on Boomerang For the past couple of weeks I've been enjoying reruns of this, one of the greatest animated series I've ever seen. If you've never seen Samurai Jack, then do yourself a favor and check it out. Don't let the oddly flat looking animation throw you. Don't be turned off by the idea of a Samurai nicknamed Jack in a strange future. If you see a couple of eps that seem kinda silly or light, don't give up. Tartokovsky crafted an incredibly good show here, full of action, adventure, and some surprisingly effective drama. I can think of a couple of shows that literally had my mouth hanging open, and a couple that had me near misty eyed (see Jack battle the cursed Viking warrior for example). It's fun when they riff on that anime standard of characters freezing in moments of high action: you know, when a character delivers a fatal sword stroke, then freezes in that move, while the enemy dies, or explodes, as the case is here. There's good music, good writing, and memorable characters. If Boomerang had to replace Justice League, this is one of the better choices to take its place. __ Windows Live: Make it easier for your friends to see what you're up to on Facebook. http://windowslive.com/Campaign/SocialNetworking?ocid=PID23285::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:SI_SB_facebook:082009
[scifinoir2] Re: Leverage
But Hardison has the last laugh. That was a fun episode. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote: (picking self up off floor) Wheaton Da Man! If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com CC: blackscifihorrorfantasyc...@yahoogroups.com From: jazzynupe_...@... Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 07:18:02 -0700 Subject: [scifinoir2] Leverage Did anyone (other than me that is) watch Leverage last night? Wil Wheaton played a hacker named - chaos and he was called - Kobayashi Maru. Fate. start: -00-00 end: -00-00 _ With Windows Live, you can organize, edit, and share your photos. http://www.windowslive.com/Desktop/PhotoGallery
[scifinoir2] Re: Samurai Jack Reruns on Boomerang
Cool. There were quite a few episodes I never got to watch so now I can play catch up. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote: Can't agree more, Keith. I still can't quite get Boomerang on my set yet. The digital signal keeps popping in and out constantly. Comcrap says that they may have given us bad set-top boxes. *Four* of them... (spit!) If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@... Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 04:25:44 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Samurai Jack Reruns on Boomerang For the past couple of weeks I've been enjoying reruns of this, one of the greatest animated series I've ever seen. If you've never seen Samurai Jack, then do yourself a favor and check it out. Don't let the oddly flat looking animation throw you. Don't be turned off by the idea of a Samurai nicknamed Jack in a strange future. If you see a couple of eps that seem kinda silly or light, don't give up. Tartokovsky crafted an incredibly good show here, full of action, adventure, and some surprisingly effective drama. I can think of a couple of shows that literally had my mouth hanging open, and a couple that had me near misty eyed (see Jack battle the cursed Viking warrior for example). It's fun when they riff on that anime standard of characters freezing in moments of high action: you know, when a character delivers a fatal sword stroke, then freezes in that move, while the enemy dies, or explodes, as the case is here. There's good music, good writing, and memorable characters. If Boomerang had to replace Justice League, this is one of the better choices to take its place. _ Windows Live: Make it easier for your friends to see what you're up to on Facebook. http://windowslive.com/Campaign/SocialNetworking?ocid=PID23285::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:SI_SB_facebook:082009
[scifinoir2] Re: True Blood!!!
It's a guilty pleasure but I can't stop watching. The weird thing is Sookie and
Bill are my least favorite parts of the show.
This season has been insane. If you like the Maryanne stuff it's great but if
you don't this season has probably been a bit of a letdown. Things that I liked
about this season:
The Hoyt and Jessica romance is sweet and funny.
Lafayette is back to normal.
Jason Stackhouse is insane and funny as hell. Only he could have a character
arc like this.
Sam Merlotte and Andy Bellefleur are my favorite mismatched allies.Hearing
drunken Andy screaming Pig!!! was too awesome for words.
Eric Northman is a manipulative S.O.B. and my favorite of the vamps.
I'd like to see more Pam(Eric's second in command) on a regular basis. She's
awesome.
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@... wrote:
You are priceless! Beall. I hated it at first and then it grew on me.
Occasionally, it irkes me, so I relate to your angst about the show. That
being said, I love it! Go figure
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From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of grayson.reyescole
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 9:59 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: True Blood!!!
If I've said it once (yes, I'm back from the grave, people) I've said it a
thousand times, I think I'm the only person on the planet that hates this
show. At first I was into it, loved it, couldn't get enough of it,
especially our rainbow coalition hard core cookslashtrick. And then... it
just... got... on... my... last... nerve. Sookie started to make me itch,
and so did Beall {I know it's Bill, but that's how Sookie says it. The Jason
device got about as old as Pinellas County (it's where I live periodlically
and get pissed off in traffic regularly, so I can definitely attest to what
it's like living in a county with the average age of 67). And our girl who
is alternately the angrynegro/worried about demons/sleeping with Sam also
gets on my nerves.
Now that I've gotten that off my chest... the answer is no, I'm not watching
it anymore, but I am not judging anyone who does.
--GRC
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Tracey de Morsella tdlists@ wrote:
Anybody watching True Blood? What do you think. Warning. I'm one week
behind, so protect me from spoilers
Tracey de Morsella, Managing Producer
The Green Economy Post
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[scifinoir2] Re: True Blood!!!
Same here. I guess Godrick served the same purpose in the books but he was
interesting and I would have liked to see him stick around. I'd like to see
more of he and Eric's adventures in Viking land.
I wonder how powerful the Queen will be and just what will they do to get rid
of Maryanne?
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, George Arterberry brotherfromhow...@...
wrote:
Sookie is getting annoying and the same old streotypes are pushing to the
fore.I'm more interested in the vampire hiearchy now more than ever.Wish they
could have delved in to Godrick's history more.
--- On Wed, 8/26/09, daikaiju66 daikaij...@... wrote:
From: daikaiju66 daikaij...@...
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: True Blood!!!
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2009, 10:14 AM
It's a guilty pleasure but I can't stop watching. The weird thing is Sookie
and Bill are my least favorite parts of the show.
This season has been insane. If you like the Maryanne stuff it's great but if
you don't this season has probably been a bit of a letdown. Things that I
liked about this season:
The Hoyt and Jessica romance is sweet and funny.
Lafayette is back to normal.
Jason Stackhouse is insane and funny as hell. Only he could have a character
arc like this.
Sam Merlotte and Andy Bellefleur are my favorite mismatched allies.Hearing
drunken Andy screaming Pig!!! was too awesome for words.
Eric Northman is a manipulative S.O.B. and my favorite of the vamps.
I'd like to see more Pam(Eric's second in command) on a regular basis. She's
awesome.
--- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Tracey de Morsella tdlists@ wrote:
You are priceless! Beall. I hated it at first and then it grew on me.
Occasionally, it irkes me, so I relate to your angst about the show. That
being said, I love it! Go figure
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From: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogro ups.com] On
Behalf Of grayson.reyescole
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 9:59 PM
To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: True Blood!!!
If I've said it once (yes, I'm back from the grave, people) I've said it a
thousand times, I think I'm the only person on the planet that hates this
show. At first I was into it, loved it, couldn't get enough of it,
especially our rainbow coalition hard core cookslashtrick. And then... it
just... got... on... my... last... nerve. Sookie started to make me itch,
and so did Beall {I know it's Bill, but that's how Sookie says it. The Jason
device got about as old as Pinellas County (it's where I live periodlically
and get pissed off in traffic regularly, so I can definitely attest to what
it's like living in a county with the average age of 67). And our girl who
is alternately the angrynegro/worried about demons/sleeping with Sam also
gets on my nerves.
Now that I've gotten that off my chest... the answer is no, I'm not watching
it anymore, but I am not judging anyone who does.
--GRC
--- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Tracey de Morsella tdlists@ wrote:
Anybody watching True Blood? What do you think. Warning. I'm one week
behind, so protect me from spoilers
Tracey de Morsella, Managing Producer
The Green Economy Post
http://greeneconomy post.com
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[scifinoir2] Re: Basterds Take Box Office,District 9 Holds Strong
Oldboy is one of the best movies I've seen this decade. I bought the South Korean special edition way back when and I plan to buy the Tartan dvd and use it as a lending copy. Whatever you do don't read any spoilers before seeing the movie. It's one of the best first time movie going experience you can have. Mr. Worf, The American version did plan on neutering the story. They were going to base it on the manga and not the film. The manga doesn't have the same twist or ending. The antagonist's motivations are supposed to be totally different as well. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote: Keith, the good things about Oldboy are more than due. Seeing the movie named in previous posts this morning made me go over the scenes in my head, as best I can remember them, and I'm feeling the thrill of it anew. Haven't found it yet in my travels but, when I do, it's mine. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@... Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 03:16:09 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Basterds Take Box Office,District 9 Holds Strong I've heard good things about Old Boy, and lots of conversation about the rumored version starring Will Smith. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 6:45:30 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Basterds Take Box Office,District 9 Holds Strong Ok, I will post a review. :) But if she is having nightmares about shrimp I can tell you now that she won't be able to handle Thirst. Some of the images in Old boy was pretty graphic. I didn't bring it up because there isn't any scifi in it. It is an interesting story though. A guy gets snatched off of the street and imprisoned for 15 years in a small hotel looking room. One day he is given 7 days to figure out why he was placed there. Cool movie. It would have never been produced in Hollywood. On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: Let us know how it is, please. After my wife seeing District 9--a feat I pulled off only because she had *no* clue of what it would be like--I can't sneak in Thirst. She had nightmares about shrimp jumping off a dinner plate and menacing her--no fooling! - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 12:56:40 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Basterds Take Box Office,District 9 Holds Strong I saw the trailer for Thirst. It looks good. I saw the movie Old boy and was blown away by several scenes and the twisted ass plot. I am looking forward to the movie because the director is known for making good dark, and twisted films. On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 9:05 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: No surprise about Tarantino's flick. I'm not really motivated to see it though. Anyone seen or heard of the Korean vampire flick Thirst? I've heard some good things about it. I saw District 9 yesterday and loved it. Had two issues: the shaky camera in the first 20 minutes or so, which darn near had me throwing up, and the negative portrayal of the Nigerians (though to be fair, no human in the movie was portrayed well). The Nigerian thing was a major issue, but overall I really enjoyed the flick. Hope to drop a full review soon... * http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i91e05ffd5e045bf1badc73eee3940fce Quentin Tarantino's World War II actioner Inglourious Basterds, a pivotal Weinstein Co. release starring Brad Pitt, debuted gloriously during the weekend with an estimated $37.6 million in chart-topping boxoffice. Basterds is touted by some as a make-or-break film for the recently struggling indie, even though Universal is distributing the film internationally and will share evenly in any worldwide profit. Sony's sci-fi thriller District 9 finished second after falling just 49% in its sophomore session to $18.9 million and a 10-day cume of $73.5 million. The weekend's other three wide openers bowed softly. Robert Rodriguez's PG-rated family fantasy Shorts from Warner Bros. rung up $6.6 million for sixth place; Fox Searchlight's comedy Post Grad registered $2.8 million in 10th, and Disney's sports documentary X Games 3D: The Movie -- slotted for one week only in 1,399 extra-dimensional venues --
[scifinoir2] Re: Basterds Take Box Office,District 9 Holds Strong
BTW I highly recommend the other two movies in the Vengeance Trilogy, Sympathy For Mr. Vengeance and Lady Vengeance. They all have something epic about them and it's great to see Chan Wook Park's growth as a filmmaker. I really suggest watching them in order if you have a chance. They all stand alone but it's intersting to see the callbacks and references to Mr. Vengeance and Oldboy in Lady Vengeance. He also has two other films that are worth a look. JSA is a murder mystery set in the DMZ between North and South Korea. I'm A Cyborg But That's OK is a quirky drama about a young woman in a mental hospital. It wasn't my cup of tea but my wife really liked it. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote: Keith, the good things about Oldboy are more than due. Seeing the movie named in previous posts this morning made me go over the scenes in my head, as best I can remember them, and I'm feeling the thrill of it anew. Haven't found it yet in my travels but, when I do, it's mine. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@... Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 03:16:09 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Basterds Take Box Office,District 9 Holds Strong I've heard good things about Old Boy, and lots of conversation about the rumored version starring Will Smith. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 6:45:30 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Basterds Take Box Office,District 9 Holds Strong Ok, I will post a review. :) But if she is having nightmares about shrimp I can tell you now that she won't be able to handle Thirst. Some of the images in Old boy was pretty graphic. I didn't bring it up because there isn't any scifi in it. It is an interesting story though. A guy gets snatched off of the street and imprisoned for 15 years in a small hotel looking room. One day he is given 7 days to figure out why he was placed there. Cool movie. It would have never been produced in Hollywood. On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: Let us know how it is, please. After my wife seeing District 9--a feat I pulled off only because she had *no* clue of what it would be like--I can't sneak in Thirst. She had nightmares about shrimp jumping off a dinner plate and menacing her--no fooling! - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 12:56:40 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Basterds Take Box Office,District 9 Holds Strong I saw the trailer for Thirst. It looks good. I saw the movie Old boy and was blown away by several scenes and the twisted ass plot. I am looking forward to the movie because the director is known for making good dark, and twisted films. On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 9:05 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: No surprise about Tarantino's flick. I'm not really motivated to see it though. Anyone seen or heard of the Korean vampire flick Thirst? I've heard some good things about it. I saw District 9 yesterday and loved it. Had two issues: the shaky camera in the first 20 minutes or so, which darn near had me throwing up, and the negative portrayal of the Nigerians (though to be fair, no human in the movie was portrayed well). The Nigerian thing was a major issue, but overall I really enjoyed the flick. Hope to drop a full review soon... * http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i91e05ffd5e045bf1badc73eee3940fce Quentin Tarantino's World War II actioner Inglourious Basterds, a pivotal Weinstein Co. release starring Brad Pitt, debuted gloriously during the weekend with an estimated $37.6 million in chart-topping boxoffice. Basterds is touted by some as a make-or-break film for the recently struggling indie, even though Universal is distributing the film internationally and will share evenly in any worldwide profit. Sony's sci-fi thriller District 9 finished second after falling just 49% in its sophomore session to $18.9 million and a 10-day cume of $73.5 million. The weekend's other three wide openers bowed softly. Robert Rodriguez's PG-rated family fantasy Shorts from Warner Bros. rung up $6.6 million for sixth place; Fox Searchlight's comedy Post Grad registered $2.8 million in 10th, and
[scifinoir2] Re: Basterds Take Box Office,District 9 Holds Strong
Jackie Brown is a much more restrained and adult movie than Pulp Fiction. Samuel L. Jackson's performance from that one is highly underrated. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, ravenadal ravena...@... wrote: It was not well received. It only did $39 million at the box office (on the other hand, it only cost $12 mil). I first saw it at an art house with a bunch of Taratino fan boys who hated it because it wasn't Pulp Fiction 2. What it is is another Leonard Elmore book to film adaptation, more in line with Get Shorty and Be Cool than Pulp Fiction. Jackie Brown is full of great performances from the likes of Robert DeNiro (hilariously dim-witted), Samuel L. Jackson (who slowly morphs into Mephistopheles), Bridget Fonda, Michael Keaton, Robert Forster and, last but not least, Pam Grier. Tarantino's showcase homage for blaxploitation queen Grier is chase and respectful - which, alas, may have something to do with the tepid box office. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: Is Jackie Brown not a good movie, or not that well received? I've never seen it. - Original Message - From: ravenadal ravenadal@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 7:23:59 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Basterds Take Box Office,District 9 Holds Strong I love Tarantino. Pulp Fiction is still my favorite movie of all-time. I have seen everything Tarantino has made. I even liked Jackie Brown. I can't wait to see Inglourious Basterds. I was going to go last night, but I decided to go to see District 9 instead. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: After watching Tarentino's one hour manic interview with Charlie Rose, I'm more interested in seeing Basterds. Guy is very smart, very well read, very well versed in history. His movies can be a bit overblown, but that's not it. I can see myself seeing it on cable. I hear it's actually much more of a talky than the grossout violence fest we seem to keep getting fed by the trailers. - Original Message - From: Tracey de Morsella tdlists@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 1:36:19 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Basterds Take Box Office,District 9 Holds Strong I canââ¬â¢t get up any enthusiasm to see bastards either. Donââ¬â¢t know why. Iââ¬â¢m not even sure I will pursue it on cable. It seems like it is some sort of Dirty Dozen tribute and I loved that, but Iââ¬â¢m not feeling it. Gotta get a baby sitter so we can go see District 9 From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 9:06 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Basterds Take Box Office,District 9 Holds Strong No surprise about Tarantino's flick. I'm not really motivated to see it though. Anyone seen or heard of the Korean vampire flick Thirst? I've heard some good things about it. I saw District 9 yesterday and loved it. Had two issues: the shaky camera in the first 20 minutes or so, which darn near had me throwing up, and the negative portrayal of the Nigerians (though to be fair, no human in the movie was portrayed well). The Nigerian thing was a major issue, but overall I really enjoyed the flick. Hope to drop a full review soon... * http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i91e05ffd5e045bf1badc73eee3940fce Quentin Tarantino's World War II actioner Inglourious Basterds, a pivotal Weinstein Co. release starring Brad Pitt, debuted gloriously during the weekend with an estimated $37.6 million in chart-topping boxoffice. Basterds is touted by some as a make-or-break film for the recently struggling indie, even though Universal is distributing the film internationally and will share evenly in any worldwide profit. Sony's sci-fi thriller District 9 finished second after falling just 49% in its sophomore session to $18.9 million and a 10-day cume of $73.5 million. The weekend's other three wide openers bowed softly. Robert Rodriguez's PG-rated family fantasy Shorts from Warner Bros. rung up $6.6 million for sixth place; Fox Searchlight's comedy Post Grad registered $2.8 million in 10th, and Disney's sports documentary X Games 3D: The Movie -- slotted for one week only in 1,399 extra-dimensional venues -- fetched just $800,000. Among other second-frame holdovers, Warners' literary adaptation The Time Traveler's Wife fell a modest 46%
[scifinoir2] Re: Basterds Take Box Office,District 9 Holds Strong
The South African media portrayal of Nigerians and other West African immigrants is pretty brutal at times. They are frequently portrayed as drug dealers or carpetbagging oppurtunists. One thing that I found interesting is that the people in the documentary portion of the film were expressing their feelings about the new wave of immigrants from Zimbabwe and other countries. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: Where'd you hear that? I thought I heard them speak a language that wasn't English or Afrikans? Either way that doesn't matter: the were black people, and portrayed pretty badly as drug dealers, weapons dealers, thugs living in squalor, even had the prostitutes committing the worst act of all, having sex with the prawns. The whites in teh movie were reprehensible too, but they were at least on top in that world. I was sorely troubled by the portrayal of the black thugs, whatever their country of origin. - Original Message - From: Justin Mohareb justinmoha...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 12:09:32 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Basterds Take Box Office,District 9 Holds Strong One thing, though. They're not supposed to be Nigerian, specifically. It appears that, in SA, the term Nigerian is synonymous with gangster. Justin On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 12:05 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: No surprise about Tarantino's flick. I'm not really motivated to see it though. Anyone seen or heard of the Korean vampire flick Thirst? I've heard some good things about it. I saw District 9 yesterday and loved it. Had two issues: the shaky camera in the first 20 minutes or so, which darn near had me throwing up, and the negative portrayal of the Nigerians (though to be fair, no human in the movie was portrayed well). The Nigerian thing was a major issue, but overall I really enjoyed the flick. Hope to drop a full review soon... * http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i91e05ffd5e045bf1badc73eee3940fce Quentin Tarantino's World War II actioner Inglourious Basterds, a pivotal Weinstein Co. release starring Brad Pitt, debuted gloriously during the weekend with an estimated $37.6 million in chart-topping boxoffice. Basterds is touted by some as a make-or-break film for the recently struggling indie, even though Universal is distributing the film internationally and will share evenly in any worldwide profit. Sony's sci-fi thriller District 9 finished second after falling just 49% in its sophomore session to $18.9 million and a 10-day cume of $73.5 million. The weekend's other three wide openers bowed softly. Robert Rodriguez's PG-rated family fantasy Shorts from Warner Bros. rung up $6.6 million for sixth place; Fox Searchlight's comedy Post Grad registered $2.8 million in 10th, and Disney's sports documentary X Games 3D: The Movie -- slotted for one week only in 1,399 extra-dimensional venues -- fetched just $800,000. Among other second-frame holdovers, Warners' literary adaptation The Time Traveler's Wife fell a modest 46% to $10 million in fourth place for a $37.4 million cume, while further down the rankings Paramount Vantage's comedy The Goods: Live Hard, Sell Hard slid 53% to $2.7 million and a $11.2 million cume. Disney's Ponyo dipped 32% to $2.4 million with an $8.1 million cume, and Summit Entertainment's youth musical Bandslam dropped 60% to $890,000 and a $4.5 million cume. The weekend top 10 films collected $108 million, or 31% more than the top performers over the same frame last year, according to Nielsen EDI. That marked a third straight year-over-year weekend uptick. In a limited bow, Paramount Vantage unspooled comedy The Mark Pease Experience, starring Ben Stiller and Jason Schwartzman, in 10 theaters and grossed $3,000, or just $300 per venue. Freestyle Releasing opened the comedy My One and Only, starring Renee Zellweger and Kevin Bacon, with two playdates in New York and two in L.A. and grossed $60,708. -- a promising $15,177 per engagement. IFC Films debuted the crime thriller Five Minutes of Heaven, starring Liam Neeson and James Nesbitt, in a single New York location and fetched a sturdy $5,200. Elsewhere in the specialty market, Samuel Goldwyn/IDP's Paul Giamatti starrer Cold Souls added 32 theaters for a total 53 and grossed $133,295, or a so-so $2,515 per venue, as cume climbed to $340,068. Focus Features' Korean vampire pic Thirst added three playdates for a total 17 and grossed $31,400, or a thin $1,047 per engagement, with a $1.8 million cume. -- Read the Bitter Guide to the Bitter Guy. http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com
[scifinoir2] Re: Eureka Thoughts
Well he may be back since his True Blood tenure was *ahem* short lived. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote: Keith, I'm with you on all of your points. As for why they wrote out Stark's character -- the only thing I can think of is that he got tired of the role. They weren't really giving him much to do with it. I've since seen him on a liquor commercial, but not True Blood, as I don't have HBO and am not a fan of the show. As for Carter's security clearance, that makes no sense to me, either. Feels as though the writers didn't take the extra step in the thought process, simply left it at the supposition that a town sheriff shouldn't have access to top secrets, even if most of those top secrets are the cause of most of the troubles he has to deal with. I half-hoped that, as the series went on, there would be a point at which such was recognized, he would be bumped up If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@... Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 03:52:34 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Eureka Thoughts Everyone watching the new season of Eureka? I must saying I'm enjoying it, even more than last season. I think that's because Carter is noticeably more instrumental in solving cases than last year. Every ep so far, as the big brains discuss string theory, M-branes, and quantum mechanics, Carter's always the one guy in the room who cuts through the superficial coverings to get to the heart of a problem. Indeed, one wonders how the scientists can do anything: as smart as they are, they seem to exemplify what my mom used to say about Book sense, but no common sense. Fortunately they have also toned down the Carter-is-kinda-dumb thing too. Tracey mentioned that last year that had gotten out of hand. There are still some moments like that, but I frankly don't think they're needed. Carter's obviously not a supergenius, so let's lose the Uh...English please? I'm clueless schtick. A couple of weeks ago, for example, Allison spoke of the space object coming to Earth in 126 hours, and Carter looks confused. Allison then had to amend and say five days! Give me a break: you telling me Carter, an intelligent and highly competent man of the law, can't figure that out? Again, good thing that angle is being minimized. Some other thoughts on the show: * I like the new lady brought in, who runs Section 5 (?) At first she irritated the hell out of me by belittling Carter's intelligence, but I like the tender side and sense and humour she has. * Good to see that Carter is falling for the new scientist. For some reason I never really liked his love for Allison, and it's less appealing to me this season for some reason. I say let that angle die, and let him move on. * Anyone know why the guy who played allison's ex- and new-husband left the show? I thought he was coming back, but here he's on True Blood now. * When is Henry going to get a life and a love? I hate what they did by killing off his love, and this recent--spoiler!--storyline of bringing back a computerized copy of her, then killing it off? WTF?! And speaking of that, Henry is mayor now, but doesn't seem to do any mayoral stuff. He basically still sports the mechanics' garb, when he's not at GD running experiments. Does he even have an office at city hall? * Carter is sheriff, charged with keeping all law and protecting everyone in the town, including those at Global Dynamics. Yet he doesn't have a high security clearance. Allison refused to discuss the oncoming spaceship with him because of that, and that top secret section that's been reopened is off limits to him without an escort. Okay, I guess I'm confused: if he's only the sheriff, maybe he wouldn't have top secret clearance to everything at GD. But, more times than I can count, Carter risks his life by entering some high dangerous lab to fight a creature of living ooze, gravity wells, etc. In fact, Carter's the *only* person who consistently tackles these dangers, which usually means he's finally brought in to these top secret discussions. Is it logical, therefore, for his clearance to be relatively low? _ Windows Live: Make it easier for your friends to see what you're up to on Facebook. http://windowslive.com/Campaign/SocialNetworking?ocid=PID23285::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:SI_SB_facebook:082009
[scifinoir2] Re: Science ponders 'zombie attack'
They make pretty good diversions. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote: Have to agree with you there. With the Dawn '04 Model zombies, you couldn't keep slow people around you. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: daikaij...@... Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:40:20 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Science ponders 'zombie attack' Except for all the brain eating and undeadness. The arms industry will make a killing though. *ahem* Slow Romero style zombies would be easier to contain but the running, jumping Dawn of the Dead 2004 model would be the end of the world as we know it except for folks lucky enough to get to uninhabited islands. I'd rather deal with the 28 Days Later style infected. At least in the first movie you could safely travel by day, kill them more easily and barricade yourself inside a strong building for protection. Although the 28 Days Later and Quarantine/Rec style infected are damned hard to get rid of they could be dealt with if you take action quickly. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ wrote: A dear friend of mine sent me earlier, and we both agree that such an event might actually be for the betterment of Mankind, slowing down the species's rampant abuse/exploitation of the planet. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: sincere1906@ Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:24:31 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Science ponders 'zombie attack' Science ponders 'zombie attack' By Pallab Ghosh Science correspondent, BBC News If zombies actually existed, an attack by them would lead to the collapse of civilisation unless dealt with quickly and aggressively. That is the conclusion of a mathematical exercise carried out by researchers in Canada. They say only frequent counter-attacks with increasing force would eradicate the fictional creatures. The scientific paper is published in a book - Infectious Diseases Modelling Research Progress. In books, films, video games and folklore, zombies are undead creatures, able to turn the living into other zombies with a bite. But there is a serious side to the work. In some respects, a zombie plague resembles a lethal, rapidly spreading infection. The researchers say the exercise could help scientists model the spread of unfamiliar diseases through human populations. My understanding of zombie biology is that if you manage to decapitate a zombie then it's dead forever Professor Neil Ferguson In their study, the researchers from the University of Ottawa and Carleton University (also in Ottawa) posed a question: If there was to be a battle between zombies and the living, who would win? Professor Robert Smith? (the question mark is part of his surname and not a typographical mistake) and colleagues wrote: We model a zombie attack using biological assumptions based on popular zombie movies. We introduce a basic model for zombie infection and illustrate the outcome with numerical solutions. FROM THE TODAY PROGRAMME More from Today programme To give the living a fighting chance, the researchers chose classic slow-moving zombies as our opponents rather than the nimble, intelligent creatures portrayed in some recent films. While we are trying to be as broad as possible in modelling zombies - especially as there are many variables - we have decided not to consider these individuals, the researchers said. Back for good? Even so, their analysis revealed that a strategy of capturing or curing the zombies would only put off the inevitable. In their scientific paper, the authors conclude that humanity's only hope is to hit them [the undead] hard and hit them often. They added: It's imperative that zombies are dealt with quickly or else... we are all in a great deal of trouble. According to the researchers, the key difference between the zombies and the spread of real infections is that
[scifinoir2] Re: SF's 26 Greatest Tearjerkers
It fits the definition for me. Roy had done everything he could to get more life but that was denied him. When he had Deckard at his mercy he spared him and allowed him to do something that he could not do and that is to go on living. He actually showed empathy and mercy and was at the moment more human than the man hunting him. The speech is just the icing on the cake. I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time... like tears in rain... Time to die. That gets me evey time I see the movie. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: The Blade Runner scene is poignant and memorable, can't believe I forgot that one. But, is it really a tearjerker? It makes me sad, but not misty-eyed... - Original Message - From: B. Smith daikaij...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 9:50:12 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: SF's 26 Greatest Tearjerkers That's actually a great list. There is one omission I found striking and that is Roy Batty's speech on the rooftop in Blade Runner. That is classic. The Serenity choice is a great one. I remember being stunned into silence and hearing audible gasps when the famous line I am a leaf on the wind is said that last time. I'm glad they gave B5 some love too. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Adrianne Brennan adrianne.brennan@ wrote: As touching as Doomsday was, it pales in comparison with the chips speech at the end of season 1 for me. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/botdm.html Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/bamc.html Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 8:32 AM, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@wrote: Grab Kleenex, folks... http://www.sfx.co.uk/page/sfx?entry=sf_s_26_greatest_tearjerkers If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- Hotmail® is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. Try it now. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=PID23391::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HYGN_faster:082009
[scifinoir2] Re: OT: Weapons at Obama rally
I wonder what would have happened if the New Black Panther Party, PIP, AIM or any armed leftist group would have been within a mile of Dubya exercising their rights to openly bear arms? During the last administration people were jailed for wearing shirts or having signs that were politcally abrasive to the people in power and FOX and the like thought it was great. How times have changed. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote: (standing ovation) When I first saw this, I thought only of all of the reports of threats against President Obama. Just scary. The comments on the vid of this on YouTube are running mostly PRO-this guy. I take that to be all of the wounded neocons coming out of their holes, but still a scary thing. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@... Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:31:30 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Weapons at Obama rally That is just so wrong. Our government needs to make a statement about this kind of behavior no matter what their point of view is that asinine stuff like this should never be tolerated. Period. There are certain things that shouldn't be done. I would think that bringing a gun to a political rally should be on the top 5. On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 5:23 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote: Mr Worf, I get the feeling that he won't even be questioned. Am I the only person thinking that the Secret Service needs to be replaced in a hurry? I've lost track of the number of threats against President Obama this year. On the Young Turks web site, they once named them off, at least six. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@... Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 15:19:46 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Weapons at Obama rally So I hope they throw his dumb ass in jail for a good long time. Just for Gp. On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote: This was apparently a planned publicity stunt by a conservative radio host... soemwhere. Can't remember the place. Worst thing about this? It *would* have to be a brother packing the AR-15... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/18/right-wing-radio-host-sta_n_262559.html If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik Hotmail® is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. Try it now. -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ Hotmail® is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. Try it now. -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ _ With Windows Live, you can organize, edit, and share your photos. http://www.windowslive.com/Desktop/PhotoGallery
[scifinoir2] Re: Science ponders 'zombie attack'
Except for all the brain eating and undeadness. The arms industry will make a killing though. *ahem* Slow Romero style zombies would be easier to contain but the running, jumping Dawn of the Dead 2004 model would be the end of the world as we know it except for folks lucky enough to get to uninhabited islands. I'd rather deal with the 28 Days Later style infected. At least in the first movie you could safely travel by day, kill them more easily and barricade yourself inside a strong building for protection. Although the 28 Days Later and Quarantine/Rec style infected are damned hard to get rid of they could be dealt with if you take action quickly. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote: A dear friend of mine sent me earlier, and we both agree that such an event might actually be for the betterment of Mankind, slowing down the species's rampant abuse/exploitation of the planet. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: sincere1...@... Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:24:31 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Science ponders 'zombie attack' Science ponders 'zombie attack' By Pallab Ghosh Science correspondent, BBC News If zombies actually existed, an attack by them would lead to the collapse of civilisation unless dealt with quickly and aggressively. That is the conclusion of a mathematical exercise carried out by researchers in Canada. They say only frequent counter-attacks with increasing force would eradicate the fictional creatures. The scientific paper is published in a book - Infectious Diseases Modelling Research Progress. In books, films, video games and folklore, zombies are undead creatures, able to turn the living into other zombies with a bite. But there is a serious side to the work. In some respects, a zombie plague resembles a lethal, rapidly spreading infection. The researchers say the exercise could help scientists model the spread of unfamiliar diseases through human populations. My understanding of zombie biology is that if you manage to decapitate a zombie then it's dead forever Professor Neil Ferguson In their study, the researchers from the University of Ottawa and Carleton University (also in Ottawa) posed a question: If there was to be a battle between zombies and the living, who would win? Professor Robert Smith? (the question mark is part of his surname and not a typographical mistake) and colleagues wrote: We model a zombie attack using biological assumptions based on popular zombie movies. We introduce a basic model for zombie infection and illustrate the outcome with numerical solutions. FROM THE TODAY PROGRAMME More from Today programme To give the living a fighting chance, the researchers chose classic slow-moving zombies as our opponents rather than the nimble, intelligent creatures portrayed in some recent films. While we are trying to be as broad as possible in modelling zombies - especially as there are many variables - we have decided not to consider these individuals, the researchers said. Back for good? Even so, their analysis revealed that a strategy of capturing or curing the zombies would only put off the inevitable. In their scientific paper, the authors conclude that humanity's only hope is to hit them [the undead] hard and hit them often. They added: It's imperative that zombies are dealt with quickly or else... we are all in a great deal of trouble. According to the researchers, the key difference between the zombies and the spread of real infections is that zombies can come back to life. Professor Neil Ferguson, who is one of the UK government's chief advisers on controlling the spread of swine flu, said the study did have parallels with some infectious diseases. None of them actually cause large-scale death or disease, but certainly there are some fungal infections which are difficult to eradicate, said Professor Ferguson, from Imperial College London. There are some viral infections - simple diseases like chicken pox have survived in very small communities. If you get it when you are very young, the virus stays with you and can re-occur as shingles, triggering a new chicken pox epidemic. Professor Smith? told BBC News: When you try to model an unfamiliar disease, you try to find out what's happening, try to approximate it. You then refine it, go back and try again. We refined the model again and again to say... here's how you would tackle an unfamiliar disease. Professor Ferguson went on to joke: The paper
[scifinoir2] Re: Netflix/Walmart Marriage - What do you think?
As long as Wal-Mart has no say about the content or types of movies available on Netflix I have no real problems with the merger. Glad to see the group up and running. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Tracey de Morsella \(formerly Tracey L. Minor\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hate to do it, but I too have made an effort to avoid all things Walmart. I really like netflix and enjoyed watching the process of them taking down Walmart in this arena. It never dawned on me the result would be Wal-Mart partnering with them. If it can happen to Microsoft and Apple, I should not be surprised. Tracey -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of g123curious Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 1:14 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Netflix/Walmart Marriage - What do you think? Since I am boycotting Wal-Mart due to their questionable business practices, this just insures that I won't do business with Netflix either. George Captain The USS Ronald E. McNair (Boston) --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Tracey de Morsella \(formerly Tracey L. Minor\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey guys. What do you think about all this? Tracey Netflix, Wal-Mart Unite; Blockbuster Attacks The brutal war over online DVD rentals accelerated Thursday as Netflix and Wal-Mart announced an agreement, which was followed by an announcement by Blockbuster offering incentives to anyone switching from Netflix and Wal-Mart. Under the Netflix-Wal-Mart deal, Netflix will take over Wal-Mart's online DVD rental business beginning June 16 while at the same time promoting Wal-Mart's sell-through business. Wal-Mart is believed to have about 300,000 subscribers. Shares in Netflix rocketed up 24 percent following the announcement. Later in the day, Blockbuster offered to give Netflix and Wal-Mart online rental subscribers two months of online rentals free, a free DVD of their choice to keep, and two coupons for free in-store rentals. In a statement, Blockbuster chairman and CEO John Antioco said, We remain committed to growing our online rental business and plan to continue to compete very aggressively in online DVD rentals. Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.15 - Release Date: 5/22/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.15 - Release Date: 5/22/2005 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- In low income neighborhoods, 84% do not own computers. At Network for Good, help bridge the Digital Divide! http://us.click.yahoo.com/S.QlOD/3MnJAA/Zx0JAA/LRMolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
