Re: [silk] Singapore serviced apartment?

[Chew Lin Kay]

​There's a hotel just across (relatively speaking) from where you need to
be -- Hotel Park Avenue Rochester.

For serviced apartments this showed up:
https://singapore.lmbhousing.com/lmb-locations/one-north-buona-vista

​

On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 4:15 AM, Saritha Rai  wrote:

> Thanks a lot, Lakshmi.  Will try!
> Thanks Udhay.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: silklist [mailto:silklist-bounces+sarirai=gmail@lists.hserus.net]
> On Behalf Of Udhay Shankar N
> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2017 10:03 AM
> To: Silk List
> Subject: Re: [silk] Singapore serviced apartment?
>
> [pasting in this message from Lakshmi as the list software discarded it for
> being sent from an ID that is not susbcribed to the list]
>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Lakshmi Pratury 
> To: silklist@lists.hserus.net
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2017 09:53:57 +0530
> Subject: Re: [silk] Singapore serviced apartment?
> There is a place called the "big hotel" with rather tiny rooms but very
> clean and smart and most importantly, for us as a start up, very
> affordable. They call a cab if u want and its not too far to a train
> station. Give it a try!
>
> On Sep 4, 2017 8:41 AM, "Saritha Rai"  wrote:
>
> > Thanks.  Nothing relevant showing up, unfortunately.
> >
>
>
>

[silk] Who does futures and foresight in universities/non-profits?

[Chew Lin Kay]

Hello everyone!

I was wondering if anyone might know of universities or non-profits in
North America who are using futures techniques to scope their space and
shape their strategy? My specific interests are in a) keeping my toes in
the water re futures and foresight generally, and b) understanding how
different groups move from vision to strategy.

I was specifically looking at something more like Georgetown's Red House (
https://futures.georgetown.edu/) rather than University of Hawaii's more
academic programme, but am always happy to talk.

Chew Lin

Re: [silk] Silklisters in Boston/Cambridge?

[Chew Lin Kay]

On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 7:48 PM, John Sundman  wrote:

> .
>
> What will you be studying at Harvard?
>
> jrs
>
>
>
​Given that I don't currently cycle, if I don't learn by November I might
as well put a hiatus on that endeavour until the summer...

Divinity school, MDiv with a concentration on either interfaith
peacebuilding or religious literacy (probably and, if I can define it more
clearly. eventually).

CL​

Re: [silk] Silklisters in Boston/Cambridge?

[Chew Lin Kay]

Right, so wear many layers, don't drive and don't cycle when it's cold
outside. I'm Singaporean, the complaining should come easy. Got it!

On 29 Mar 2017 9:33 AM, "Biju Chacko"  wrote:

> On 29 Mar 2017 05:48, "Sean Doyle"  wrote:
>
>
>
>
> I really don't think it's bad at all but it's probably Stockholm Syndrome.
>
>
> This explains why I think, "Traffic is pretty good today" when it takes
> "just" 30 minutes to cover the 7km to work.
>
> -- b
>

[silk] Silklisters in Boston/Cambridge?

[Chew Lin Kay]

/delurks

Hello Silklisters!

I'll be heading to Harvard for grad school in August -- is anyone currently
in the area? And excepting that, anyone has tips to help a tropical baby
survive her first winter? (how is it snowing in March?!)

Chew Lin

[silk] Future Institute?

[Chew Lin Kay]

Does anyone know the work of this group? http://www.futureinstitute.in

Am asking for a friend, who would like to know more about the work they've
done so far and where that has been applied.

Thank you!
Chew Lin

Re: [silk] NGO that teaches village schools to hunt down missing funds?

[Chew Lin Kay]

Thank you very much everyone!

On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 12:19 AM, Mahesh Murthy <mahesh.mur...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I understand HaqDarshak does this
> On 15-Jan-2016 3:11 PM, "Ingrid" <ingrid.srin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On 15 January 2016 at 13:59, Chew Lin Kay <chewlin@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > ​Hello everyone,
> > >
> > > Udhay suggested that I tap the Collective Brain for this--has anyone
> > heard
> > > of NGOs in India (one? many?) that trains volunteers to a) read the
> > > relevant ​federal and state level documents on funding for schools, b)
> > > explain said allocations to local schools so that c) schools can go
> back
> > to
> > > the authorities to demand for the money that should have been
> > forthcoming?
> > > I think the programme also involved data collection (e.g. schools
> saying
> > > that they need more flexibility in spending, less specific allocations
> > for
> > > certain less useful areas etc).
> > >
> > > Many thanks!
> > > Chew Lin
> > >
> >
> > India's Right To Education policy requires that schools be monitored by
> > local School Management Committees/Village Education Committees
> (comprising
> > representatives of parents of students, teachers, local authorities among
> > others). Many NGOs that work in this area include capacity building of
> > these committees as part of their programme design.
> >
> > A Delhi NGO that focuses entirely on this aspect is Saajha, featured
> here:
> >
> >
> http://forbesindia.com/article/30-under-30/abhishek-choudhary-and-saransh-vaswani-a-class-act/39603/1
> >
> > Saajha was incubated by Pratham who evaluate school infrastructure and
> > facilities as part of their ASER report:
> >
> http://www.pratham.org/templates/pratham/images/rte_indicators_aser2013.pdf
> >
> > I'm not aware of an organisation that focuses specifically on school
> > budgets.
> >
> > Hope that's useful.
> >
> > Ingrid
> >
>

[silk] NGO that teaches village schools to hunt down missing funds?

[Chew Lin Kay]

​Hello everyone,

Udhay suggested that I tap the Collective Brain for this--has anyone heard
of NGOs in India (one? many?) that trains volunteers to a) read the
relevant ​federal and state level documents on funding for schools, b)
explain said allocations to local schools so that c) schools can go back to
the authorities to demand for the money that should have been forthcoming?
I think the programme also involved data collection (e.g. schools saying
that they need more flexibility in spending, less specific allocations for
certain less useful areas etc).

Many thanks!
Chew Lin

Re: [silk] best indian whisky and rum ?

[Chew Lin Kay]

Slide thread-drift: if you're in Bangalore, write in to visit Amrut's
distillery. It was quite fabulous, admiring the stills, getting the spiel
and partaking of the angel's share. Unfortunately customs and excise rules
meant they couldn't sell, but we could taste. Good lord that was fun.

Chew Lin

On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 6:47 PM, Rajesh Mehar rajeshme...@gmail.com wrote:

 I would second (or is it third) the Amrut range. They have 3 variants.
 Amrut Single Malt, Amrut Fusion, and Amrut Peated. I personally like the
 peated whiskey the best. It has a much more dense and smoky flavor to it. I
 would rank the Fusion second, followed by the regular variant.

[silk] Silkmeet in Manila?

[Chew Lin Kay]

Hello lovely people,

I'll be in Manila (specifically, Makati) from 28 Nov to 1 Dec. Might there
be any Silklisters about?--a meet on Sunday (30 Nov) would be nice. :)

Chew Lin

Re: [silk] Books and libraries

[Chew Lin Kay]

So many books to read, so little time!

/ahem

Popping up to say a) thank you for all the book recommendations that I will
now feel compelled to read, and b) on top of what Thaths said, an e-ink
device really is that much easier on the eyes--borrowed a Kindle, no
problems reading in glare and in dimmer conditions. Would buy one if I can
figure out an easy way round the DRM issues in Singapore.

Chew Lin

On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 1:17 AM, Sandhya aka Sandy sandhya.varn...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 That's a timely Q. I just finished reading Feast of Roses by Indu
 Sundaresan. It's the second book on Nur Jahan. The 1st is The Twentieth
 Wife and I haven't read that yet. A fascinating read and makes the Mughal
 era come to life. A formidable woman who was the power behind the throne of
 Jahangir at a time when women were just supposed to hangout in the harem.
 Descriptive, evocative, the staggering wealth and scale of living come to
 life. The plotting and scheming of the people seem very real.

 Frankly, I was never a fan of Mughal history because of the way it was
 thrust on us at school - dates to mug up, wars to remember, and dry
 accounts of # of elephants and camels and horses - I used to tune out. Now
 if they had books like these.. it made me curious about history and I
 started googling on the Mughal emperors.

 Cheers
 Sandhya

 On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay 
 sankarshan.mukhopadh...@gmail.com wrote:

  On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 3:23 PM, Venkatesh Hariharan ven...@gmail.com
  wrote:
   Dava Sobel's Longitude is a fascinating account of how longitude was
  fixed.
   I never realized how challenging this task was.
 
  On that note, 
  https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/17239116-everest---the-first-ascent
  is an interesting read as well.
 
 
  --
  sankarshan mukhopadhyay
  https://about.me/sankarshan.mukhopadhyay
 
 

Re: [silk] Books and libraries

[Chew Lin Kay]

Thanks for the tip! I was very intrigued because on a recent vacation to
Indonesia, a friend was able to purchase off the Amazon store while he
isn't able to do so in Singapore. (I guess the other workaround is the
thousands of books available for free download regardless of whether I can
buy off the Amazon store...)

On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 12:44 PM, Balaji Dutt balaji.d...@gmail.com wrote:

 Chew Lin Kay wrote:

 Would buy one if I can
 figure out an easy way round the DRM issues in Singapore.

 Chew Lin

 If the DRM issue you are worried about is being able to buy from the
 Kindle Store in Singapore, there's a very easy workaround. Sign up for a
 free account at ComGateway or vPost and you will get a valid US address.
 Add that to your Amazon account and make it your primary address - voila!
 The Kindle Store is now open for you. Amazon does not care that your credit
 card on file with them has a Singapore address, unlike some other websites
 I could name coughHulucough.

 Amazon still won't directly ship a Kindle to you in Singapore so that
 vPost/ComGateway address is actually mandatory if you want to buy a Kindle
 reader.

 --
 Balaji Dutt

[silk] Can science fiction save the world?

[Chew Lin Kay]

I feel like Silk has already explored this?

CL

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-28974943

[image: BBC News] http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/MAGAZINE
3 September 2014 Last updated at 23:14Project Hieroglyph: Fighting
society's dystopian future
COMMENTS (236)
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-28974943?print=true#dna-comments
By Debbie SiegelbaumBBC News, Washington

Pop culture has painted a darkly dystopian vision of the future. But a new
book hopes to harness the power of science fiction to plot out a more
optimistic path for the real world.

Just glancing at this week's movie listings, those in the US can see humans
battling super apes for world domination, a gang of Marvel misfits fighting
against the universe's certain doom, or a young boy tasked with keeping all
memories of a society that has done away with individuality.

The future, according to Hollywood, doesn't look so good. Successful
dystopian science fiction television shows like HBO's The Leftovers and
books like The Hunger Games trilogy add to the notion that bad news is very
much in store.

Acclaimed science-fiction writer Neal Stephenson saw this bleak trend in
his own work, but didn't give it much thought until he attended a
conference on the future a couple years ago.

At the time, Stephenson said that science fiction guides innovation because
young readers later grow up to be scientists and engineers.

But fellow attendee Michael Crow, president of Arizona State University
(ASU), took a more sort of provocative stance, that science fiction
actually needed to supply ideas that scientists and engineers could
actually implement, Stephenson says.

[He] basically told me that I needed to get off my duff and start writing
science fiction in a more constructive and optimistic vein.

That conversation spawned a new endeavour called Project Hieroglyph, which
seeks to bring science fiction writers and scientists together to learn
from, and influence, each other - and in turn, the future.

Renowned writers such as Bruce Sterling and Cory Doctorow were tasked with
working with scientists to imagine optimistic, technically-grounded science
fiction stories depicting futures achievable within the next 50 years.

Those stories, collected in a book also entitled Hieroglyph, will be
released on 9 September.

We want to create a more open, optimistic, ambitious and engaged
conversation about the future, project director Ed Finn says.

According to his argument, negative visions of the future as perpetuated in
pop culture are limiting people's abilities to dream big or think outside
the box. Science fiction, he says, should do more.

A good science fiction story can be very powerful, Finn says. It can
inspire hundreds, thousands, millions of people to rally around something
that they want to do

*Hieroglyph writers' visions of the future:*

   - Environmentalists fight to stop entrepreneurs from building the first
   extreme tourism destination hotel in Antarctica
   - People vie for citizenship on a near-zero-gravity moon of Mars, which
   has become a hub for innovation
   - Animal activists use drones to track elephant poachers
   - A crew crowd-funds a mission to the Moon to set up an autonomous 3D
   printing robot to create new building materials
   - A 20km tall tower spurs the US steel industry, sparks new methods of
   generating renewable energy and houses The First Bar in Space

Indeed, the influence of science fiction is already apparent in modern
research, says Braden Allenby, Project Hieroglyph
http://hieroglyph.asu.edu/ participant and professor of engineering,
ethics and law at ASU.

Why do we end up with the technologies we do? Why are people working on,
for example, invisibility cloaks? Well, it's Harry Potter, right? That's
where they saw it, he says. Why are people interested in hand-held
devices that allow you to diagnose diseases anywhere in the world? Well,
that's what Mr Spock can do. Why can't we?

ASU structural engineer professor Keith Hjelmstad has been thinking about
tall architecture throughout his nearly four-decade-long career. As a
professor, he even instructed the designer of Dubai's Burj Khalifa, the
tallest building in the world.

But it was his collaboration with Stephenson on a short science fiction
story about a steel tower 20km high that really sparked his imagination.

That [idea] caught my curiosity like almost nothing ever has before,
Hjelmstad adds. I wasn't thinking about it and now, of course, I can't
stop thinking about it.

The collaboration also spawned detailed, structurally accurate 3D models of
Stephenson's ideas, a thrilling first in his thirty-year career as a
writer.

I was seeing something that was actually based on physics, he says. It
injects a new element into the science fiction writing process that could
be of benefit to writers and to readers who get to see these depictions,
and also to people like [Hjelmstad] who get to reach a larger audience.

That larger audience may extend to not only other 

[silk] Help! Anyone familiar with aging initiatives on Kolkata?

[Chew Lin Kay]

Hello Silklisters,

I'm doing some research on initiatives to make cities more friendly to an
aging population and read that Kolkata joined the WHO Global Network of
Age-friendly Cities and Communities. Does anyone know what sort of
facilities or programmes Kolkata has for its seniors, and where I can find
out more?

Thank you!

Chew Lin

calcutta as one of the cities with WHO aging city whatsit-- how to find
detai

Re: [silk] Help! Anyone familiar with aging initiatives on Kolkata?

[Chew Lin Kay]

Thanks everyone!

Thinking about Mitesh's observations, do you think these were deliberate
developments to help the seniors in the community, or that the seniors
decided that Kolkata was a friendly place to retire to, because of the
availability of easy transport and good housing?


On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 3:02 AM, Ingrid ingrid.srin...@gmail.com wrote:


  On 08-Jun-2014, at 9:44 pm, Chew Lin Kay chewlin@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hello Silklisters,
 
  I'm doing some research on initiatives to make cities more friendly to an
  aging population and read that Kolkata joined the WHO Global Network of
  Age-friendly Cities and Communities. Does anyone know what sort of
  facilities or programmes Kolkata has for its seniors, and where I can
 find
  out more?
 
  Thank you!
 
  Chew Lin
 
  calcutta as one of the cities with WHO aging city whatsit-- how to find
  detai

 mathew.cher...@helpageindia.com (CEO of Helpage India) might know more.

Re: [silk] What You Learn in Your 40s

[Chew Lin Kay]

So I'm not 40 (yet). Hopefully your lists will help make my cycles of
iteration a little shorter.

I want to also call on the list's wisdom with regards one item on Udhay's
list:

How does one make a living from a calling of being surrounded by
interesting people and interesting conversation?

Re: [silk] Singapore Silk Meet 13/14/15th March?

[Chew Lin Kay]

I'm here!
On 14 Mar 2014 18:50, Chandrachoodan Gopalakrishnan 
chandrachoo...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 14-Mar-2014 6:13 PM, Dibyo gdi...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I'll get there sevenish.
 

 Anybody else coming?

Re: [silk] Singapore Silk Meet 13/14/15th March?

[Chew Lin Kay]

What time? 6.30? 7?

Spiffy/Boat Quay is walkable from Raffles Place, City Hall and Clarke Quay
stations.


On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 9:36 AM, Chandrachoodan Gopalakrishnan 
chandrachoo...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Chew Lin Kay chewlin@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Spiffy Dapper at Boat Quay for drinks?
 
  Sounds good.

 C

Re: [silk] Singapore Silk Meet 13/14/15th March?

[Chew Lin Kay]

They're an upstairs unit, right next to the Haldi Indian restaurant. :)


On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 4:05 PM, Chandrachoodan Gopalakrishnan 
chandrachoo...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 12-Mar-2014 2:12 PM, Chew Lin Kay chewlin@gmail.com wrote:
 
  What time? 6.30? 7?

 6:30 is good. I'll probably get there a bit early and hang around

 C

Re: [silk] Singapore Silk Meet 13/14/15th March?

[Chew Lin Kay]

Spiffy Dapper at Boat Quay for drinks?


On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Balaji Dutt balaji.d...@gmail.com wrote:

 Chandrachoodan Gopalakrishnan wrote:


 14th sounds good to me. Can we fix for then?

 14th it is then. Any suggestions for where we can meet?

 --
 Balaji Dutt

Re: [silk] Singapore Silk Meet 13/14/15th March?

[Chew Lin Kay]

I'll drop by if I can. What brings you these parts? :)

CL


On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 10:48 AM, Chandrachoodan Gopalakrishnan 
chandrachoo...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 07-Mar-2014 3:02 PM, Dibyo Haldar dibyo.hal...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  My schedule tends to be very chippy, but I can try to make it 14th or
 maybe
  even 15th.
 

 14th sounds good to me. Can we fix for then?

Re: [silk] Any listers in Oxford?

[Chew Lin Kay]

Well, are you up for a ramble in Oxford, perhaps? :) Go poke around the
Pitt River Museum, Ashmolean, pretend it's warm enough to sit in the
grass...


On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 11:46 PM, Alaric Snell-Pym
ala...@snell-pym.org.ukwrote:

 On 23/09/13 12:25, Chew Lin Kay wrote:
  Hello lovely people,
 
  Might there be anyone in Oxford, free for a meetup on the 5th or 6th of
  October?

 I don't know, but I live about an hour away from Oxford in Gloucester if
 that's any help :-)

 
  Chew Lin
 

 ABS

 --
 Alaric Snell-Pym
 http://www.snell-pym.org.uk/alaric/

[silk] Any listers in Oxford?

[Chew Lin Kay]

Hello lovely people,

Might there be anyone in Oxford, free for a meetup on the 5th or 6th of
October?

Chew Lin

Re: [silk] Bollywood's Big-Screen Love Affair With Switzerland Fades To Black

[Chew Lin Kay]

Am curious--a) do viewers expect dance scenes in foreign locales? Are films
made exclusively in India seen as cheap/inferior/not-so-good? b) how does
film financing work?--ie how much of the expenditure goes towards foreign
shoots, stars' pay, etc?




On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 11:51 AM, SS cybers...@gmail.com wrote:

  On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 11:46 PM, Srini RamaKrishnan che...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
   Dev Anand was a futuristic film maker in Indian cinema in many ways -
   which includes beating Yash Chopra to Switzerland.
  
   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONDviMDa3Hc
  

 One of my favourites

 shiv

Re: [silk] In singapore for a few months, anyone up for a meetup?

[Chew Lin Kay]

Treetop walk closes at dusk, but the Henderson Waves are pretty and if
families with prams can do it...otherwise Bishan Park fulfills criteria of
pretty, accessible, and edible things nearby (not the dog run).
On 7 May 2013 00:38, Shoba Narayan sh...@shobanarayan.com wrote:


 -
  Message: 15
  Date: Mon, 6 May 2013 21:13:11 +0800
  From: Dibyo Haldar dibyo.hal...@gmail.com
  To: Silk List silklist@lists.hserus.net
  Subject: Re: [silk] In singapore for a few months, anyone up for a
meetup?
  Message-ID:

 caejuthjxqkgxgdhk83ft2d7g149y_b6jd8l3wshkpnxuoum...@mail.gmail.com
  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
 
  On 6 May 2013 18:09, Charles Haynes charles.hay...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  How about a treetop dinner photowalk at Macritchie?
 
  We'll be here through then, so ping us when you come up for air?
 
 
  Is it airconditioned? I think it might be a bit much for us old out of
  shape folks. How about we wait for you at the nearby spa with a bottle
 of
  wine?
 
  -- Charles
 
  Wouldn't mind an air conditioned tree top wine walk if I'm in town when
  that goes down.
 
  Or any other eating related activity.
 
  Dibyo the lurking one.

 +1 if y'all can tolerate a 11-year old.  Between May 22 and 28 please.

Re: [silk] BLR Silk Meet?

[Chew Lin Kay]

Fire pit!

/ahem

http://atablefortwo.com.au/2013/03/learn-about-earth

http://atablefortwo.com.au/2013/03/step-by-step-on-how-to-lay-a-hangi


On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Andy Deemer andydee...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Naresh xxx...@yahoo.com wrote:
  Andy will yu organize the BBQ incl the grill..I can handle drinks

 Asking around about a grill offlist, but if anyone has one we could
 borrow for the night, would be amazing!  (I'd happily arrange the
 edibles.)

 Andy

Re: [silk] And introducing for the first time on silk: Tomasz Rola!

[Chew Lin Kay]

Welcome, Tomasz!

Is this the first intro-by-poem on Silk?

Chew Lin


On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 6:31 AM, Tomasz Rola rto...@ceti.pl wrote:

 Hello,

 My first post here. I was told introducing oneself is a good sign, was
 too afraid to ask questions. Here goes, you will have to find some
 matching rap melody (rap melody? if there is something that fits):

 Yo, my name is Tomasz Rola
 I'm a programmer from Poland
 I like learning and reasoning
 and I also like programming

 Human behaviour and lambda calculus
 and hexadecimal code - these give me stimulus
 and future of technology and its implications
 and some more are my preferred leisure occupations

 They all say technology is interesting
 but on closer look, nobody is listening
 They all claim but not many follow
 which is why we will have a fscked up tomorrow

 So... Introducing oneself to anonymous public... check. Now, what is there
 next on a list, base jump without a parachute... What?!

 Regards,
 Tomasz Rola

 --
 ** A C programmer asked whether computer had Buddha's nature.  **
 ** As the answer, master did rm -rif on the programmer's home**
 ** directory. And then the C programmer became enlightened...  **
 ** **
 ** Tomasz Rola  mailto:tomasz_r...@bigfoot.com **

Re: [silk] Stops on a DIY walking tour of Mylapore and/or George Town

[Chew Lin Kay]

Perhaps I should count myself lucky not to be left to Cheeni's tender
mercies when I was in town.

I did a walking tour with Storytrails that pretty much covered what Thaths
has in mind for Mylapore. Will say that we and other tourists had no
problems entering Kapli temple, though there was some confusion re where to
buy camera tickets (so we just didn't). Not quite sure how you would manage
it, but we were able to visit a priest's house near the tank which
preserves the original courtyard layout.

Agree with Suresh that Rangachari's is lovely, you should ask Divya for
tips!

The other thing I particularly enjoyed in Chennai was visiting the
Government Museum in Egmore. It,s much better we with a specialist guide,
but an elegant bronze is an elegant bronze.
On 20 Feb 2013 19:49, Srini RamaKrishnan che...@gmail.com wrote:

 A preview of my real life action adventure game for tourists - live life
 like a Madras teenager:

 - A visit to the TASMAC store to pick up cheap liquid courage
 -- For bonus points: this is done at around 6PM on a Friday or October 1st
 - A spicy chicken Biryani made of genuine 100% crow
 -- For bonus points one visits a political rally where one can accomplish
 the above two tasks for free
 -- Boss level: you don't get into a fight and return with all your teeth

 - An auto ride, with haggling and cheating included of course but where the
 auto driver is glad to be rid of you rather than the other way round

 - Watching the first day first show of a popular Tamil movie but _so_
 not-optional, standing in line to buy the tickets on current booking
 -- bonus points: you dance in the aisles during the item number
 -- boss level: the police get called in because of you

 - Riding a city bus at peak hour on the foot board
 -- bonus points: you wait until the bus has picked up speed before
 attempting to board

 - A visit to some of the nicer sections of city, where one can witness
 fantastic entrepreneurial spirit in the sale of liberated auto parts

 - A visit to Ritchie street or seedy DVD shops in Parsn complex to pick up
 pirated DVDs
 -- for bonus points you demand to see their secret collection of porn




 On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Thaths tha...@gmail.com wrote:

  An American friend of mine is going to be in Madras soon. He is
 interested
  in a walking tour of Mylapore and/or George Town. I'm thinking of taking
  him around myself.
 
  What are some of the stops in a walk around Mylapore and George Town
 that I
  should not miss?
 
  Here is a tentative plan I have in mind:
 
  1. Mylapore
  Start at the San Thome bascilica
  A walk around the temple tank
  Inside Kapali Temple and explaining the hierarchy of Hindu gods and the
  rituals
  See the (scaffolded) temple chariot and explain the 63 Nayanmar festival
  Rasi Silks
  Giri Traders
  Walk around Mada streets and see the market
  Stop at Ambika Stores and Grand Sweets for an introduction to Indian
  pickling (Ambika) and snacking (Grad Sweets) traditions
  Perhaps a stop at R.K. Mutt
  Dinner or tiffin at Karpagambal Mess or Simply South (next to RK Mutt)
 (or,
  last choice Saravana Bhavan)
 
  2. George Town
  Start with some talk about the architecture of colonial buildings on
 drive
  to George Town (point to Ripon Building, Central Station, Southern
 Railways
  Building, etc. along the way)
  An aside about the glories of Moore Market that used to exist
  Start with a walk around the High Court. Emden bombing, indo sarcenic
  architecture
  Broadway and show the buildings where some law firms operate nearby
  Parry's corner, Burma Bazaar, GPO
  Walk around some of the side streets where businesses cluster together
  Lunch or snack at Rambhavan or Ramakrishna Tiffin Home (or Agarwal
 Sweets)
 
  What are other places I could take him to?
 
  Thaths
  --
  Homer: Hey, what does this job pay?
  Carl:  Nuthin'.
  Homer: D'oh!
  Carl:  Unless you're crooked.
  Homer: Woo-hoo!
  Sudhakar ChandraSlacker Without
 Borders
 

Re: [silk] Chennai Silk meet this week?

[Chew Lin Kay]

Thanks for the suggestion!

Let's do Mahamudra at one. If people can rsvp I can make reservations.
On Jan 15, 2013 7:35 PM, Srini RamaKrishnan che...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 9:18 PM, Chew Lin Kay chewlin@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Have we decided on a place for the meetup on the 19th? Will be at
 Mylapore
  in the morning so will appreciate a place in that area.

 Mahamudra, http://www.ishalife.com/mahamudra.html

 // Mahamudra has been recognized as the Finest Restaurant in Asia by
 The Miele Guide, Singapore for year 2011 - 2012 //

Re: [silk] Chennai Silk meet this week?

[Chew Lin Kay]

Have we decided on a place for the meetup on the 19th? Will be at Mylapore
in the morning so will appreciate a place in that area.
On Jan 12, 2013 6:46 AM, Thaths tha...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have reserved a table for 6 at The Bay Leaf (6th St, Gopalapuram,
 Chennai, Tamil Nadu, India; In an alley next to Gangotree on Cathedral Rd)
 for 12:30 today.

 Thaths

 On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 8:01 PM, Divya divyasamp...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Ok, I'll be there.

 Cheers
 Divya

 Sent from my iPad

 On 9 Jan 2013, at 14:19, Thaths tha...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wednesday, January 9, 2013, Badri Natarajan asi...@vsnl.com wrote:
 
  On 9 Jan 2013, at 11:24, Suresh Ramasubramanian sur...@hserus.net
 wrote:
 
  None of the joints you mentioned serves beer. We can eat at bay leaf
 and cross the road to hotel maris for cheap beer and snacks
 
  I vote for Bay Leaf too. Earlier the better for me as I will need to go
 to the office after and Bayleaf is reasonably convenient for that. Perhaps
 12.30?

 I think we have quorum for the Bay Leaf at 12:30.

 Thaths


  Badri

 --
 Homer: Hey, what does this job pay?
 Carl:  Nuthin'.
 Homer: D'oh!
 Carl:  Unless you're crooked.
 Homer: Woo-hoo!
 Sudhakar ChandraSlacker Without
 Borders




 --
 Homer: Hey, what does this job pay?
 Carl:  Nuthin'.
 Homer: D'oh!
 Carl:  Unless you're crooked.
 Homer: Woo-hoo!
 Sudhakar ChandraSlacker Without
 Borders

Re: [silk] Silkmeet Bangalore?

[Chew Lin Kay]

Not sure how long--say two hours?

Distillery is on the Mysore Bangalore highway, near the Rajarajeswari
Medical College.

So Deepa and Vinay are in, yes?
On Jan 10, 2013 12:06 PM, Deepa Mohan mohande...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 11:21 AM,  thew...@gmail.com wrote:
  More details? Where, when, and for how long?

 I also want more details...what area...how long...

Re: [silk] Silkmeet Bangalore?

[Chew Lin Kay]

Hello the good people of Silk!

Can I have a show of hands who wants to join us for the Amrut visit? I
called their marketing person, who mentioned something about permissions
from the excise department, so if i can have a show of hands by three this
afternoon, I can find out whatever forms it is that need to be filled.

We have a visitors slot at 1030. If you are unable to make it, will love to
have a post whiskey silk meet.)

Chew Lin
On Jan 3, 2013 11:27 AM, Chew Lin Kay chewlin@gmail.com wrote:

 Shall update on Jan 10 re exact timing! Please to prod Udhay if you don't
 see anything by the end of that day. :)

 CL


 On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Deepa Mohan mohande...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm also interested in the distillery visit!

 Deepa.

 On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 9:26 AM,  thew...@gmail.com wrote:
  I'm definitely up for a visit to the distillery. When are you going
 there?
 
  Lahar

Re: [silk] Where do I buy wines from Indian vineyards in Chennai?

[Chew Lin Kay]

Thaths: re collecting strange alcoholic things, I am happy to bring over
the Singapore Sling alcopop if you're still in Bangalore or Chennai next
week. :)

Re: [silk] Silkmeet Bangalore?

[Chew Lin Kay]

Shall update on Jan 10 re exact timing! Please to prod Udhay if you don't
see anything by the end of that day. :)

CL


On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Deepa Mohan mohande...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm also interested in the distillery visit!

 Deepa.

 On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 9:26 AM,  thew...@gmail.com wrote:
  I'm definitely up for a visit to the distillery. When are you going
 there?
 
  Lahar

[silk] Silkmeet Bangalore?

[Chew Lin Kay]

Hello everyone!

I will be in Bangalore from 10-13 January--would anyone be interested in a
Silkmeet? I'd suggest the afternoon/evening of Saturday the 12th, though
anyone who is interested in visiting the Amrut distillery is welcome to
join us.

Chew Lin

Re: [silk] Silkmeet Bangalore?

[Chew Lin Kay]

Saturday the 12th. I am thinking 11am, but am supposed to call their biz
manager when I land.


On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 11:56 AM, thew...@gmail.com wrote:

 **
 I'm definitely up for a visit to the distillery. When are you going there?

 Lahar

 Sent on my BlackBerry® from Vodafone
 --
 *From: * Chew Lin Kay chewlin@gmail.com
 *Sender: * silklist-bounces+thewall=gmail@lists.hserus.net
 *Date: *Wed, 2 Jan 2013 11:47:56 +0800
 *To: *silklistsilklist@lists.hserus.net
 *ReplyTo: * silklist@lists.hserus.net
 *Subject: *[silk] Silkmeet Bangalore?

 Hello everyone!

 I will be in Bangalore from 10-13 January--would anyone be interested in a
 Silkmeet? I'd suggest the afternoon/evening of Saturday the 12th, though
 anyone who is interested in visiting the Amrut distillery is welcome to
 join us.

 Chew Lin

Re: [silk] Chennai Silk meet this week?

[Chew Lin Kay]

Wait confused now. Which location for the 12 and which for the 19?

Am doing a walk in Mylapore on the morning of the 19th, so will appreciate
somewhere in that general vicinity (that being relative, for some for a
country known euphemistically as the little red dot)


On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 2:26 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian sur...@hserus.netwrote:

 12 and 19

 --srs (iPad)

 On 31-Dec-2012, at 23:43, Badri Natarajan asi...@vsnl.com wrote:


 On 31 Dec 2012, at 14:12, Suresh Ramasubramanian sur...@hserus.net
 wrote:

 Not particularly good or authentic

 --srs (htc one x)


 So what's the date again? One on the 19th and one on either the 12th or
 the 14th? Is there any agreement?

 Khader Nawaz Khan Road better for me, but can go elsewhere as required..

 Badri

Re: [silk] Chennai Silk meet this week?

[Chew Lin Kay]

Somewhat off-topic,but I've been reading about Akasaka in Tiruvanmiyur, and
am charmed by the idea of a Japanese restaurant with their own fishing
boat. Has anyone tried it, and what do they think?

CL


On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian sur...@hserus.netwrote:

 Well, khader nawaz khan road is within half an hour of mylapore.  And so
 am I, in Adyar.

 By taxi of course, I wouldn't recommend walking.

 --srs (iPad)

 On 01-Jan-2013, at 11:59, Chew Lin Kay chewlin@gmail.com wrote:

  Wait confused now. Which location for the 12 and which for the 19?
 
  Am doing a walk in Mylapore on the morning of the 19th, so will
 appreciate somewhere in that general vicinity (that being relative, for
 some for a country known euphemistically as the little red dot)
 

Re: [silk] Chocolate in India

[Chew Lin Kay]

I believe in small quantities of high quality, Suresh. :D Shall check it
out, thank you!

CL


On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 12:05 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian
sur...@hserus.netwrote:

 Umm. There was some decent genuinely dark chocolate there when I visited
 it a few months back

 My rather heavy weight makes me steer clear of chocolatiers

 --srs (iPad)

 On 16-Dec-2012, at 21:22, Chew Lin Kay chewlin@gmail.com wrote:

 Will put both chocolate shops on my list--what do you like at Mikael
 Besse, Suresh?

 Venakt: I will indeed be in Bangalore! Will be there 10-13 Jan, and will
 love to meet your friend. :)

 CL

Re: [silk] Chennai Silk meet this week?

[Chew Lin Kay]

I'll be in Chennai 14-21 Jan--what does everyone's dates look like?

Chew Lin


On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Venkat Mangudi - Silk 
s...@venkatmangudi.com wrote:

 RIP. You folks should just take the Shatabdi and come over to Bangalore.
 :-)
 On Dec 13, 2012 11:43 AM, Badri Natarajan asi...@vsnl.com wrote:

 Okay guys - I'm officially calling this silk meet dead.

 Suresh can't make it, we've not heard from Caitlin and we're not sure
 where or when we're meeting and I wouldn't have arrived before 8.30-8.45
 anyway.

 Let's reschedule for some more convenient time in Jan.

 Caitlin - when are you here in Chennai again?

 Someone else was going to be in Chennai in Jan right?

 Badri
 On 12 Dec 2012, at 22:29, Badri Natarajan asi...@vsnl.com wrote:


 On 12 Dec 2012, at 22:25, Chandrachoodan Gopalakrishnan 
 chandrachoo...@gmail.com wrote:




 On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 4:41 PM, Badri Natarajan asi...@vsnl.com wrote:



 Where are the rest of us meeting? Any suggestions? I'm not really good
 with locations..(PS - my wife will probably come along as well..)


 What kind of food/drink options are we looking at?



 Flexible. Convenient to Mylapore would be nice..dunno what Caitlin
 prefers or where she's based..

Re: [silk] Intro to a tech-driven social worker

[Chew Lin Kay]

 Pretty much any day during the week of 10-14 Dec (except Friday 14 Dec)
 works for me. Does (say) Thurs 13 Dec work for everyone?

 Nothing preventing us from meeting up again when Thaths is here..


Will be in Chennai just after Pongal and will love to put faces to names
too!

Re: [silk] Old Readers Digest

[Chew Lin Kay]

 What is interesting with the old issues is the advertisements from those
 days.


 Deepak


I loved the advertisements too! I particularly remember those written as
advertorials, from a chatty lady giving advice on the best slimming
biscuits and sliver polish.

Unfortunately (or not), the most proliferated advertisements I come across
have to do with recipes for making jello salads:
http://www.midcenturymenu.com/

Re: [silk] Tigers....

[Chew Lin Kay]

This reminds me of: http://www.passiveaggressivenotes.com/

Re: [silk] Help!--linguistic brain-tapping needed, please

[Chew Lin Kay]

On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 4:35 PM, Srini RamaKrishnan che...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Biju Chacko biju.cha...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  This is like every Syrian Christian family is either descended from
  original Brahmin families converted by St Thomas himself or from the
  Knanaya Jews led by Thomas of Cana to Kerala c. AD 800.

 Do the Muslims of Malabar also only descend from Cheraman Perumal
 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheraman_Perumal) and the few Arab
 traders who took him to see the Prophet?


Who better?

[silk] Help!--linguistic brain-tapping needed, please

[Chew Lin Kay]

Hello!

So I was reading an essay about Indian food, when they mentioned the
adoption of Sanskritized Hindi. Can someone explain what that is? I thought
Hindi draws roots from Sanskrit, but this seems to be more complicated than
that. Will offer thanks for now, and drinks when we find each other in the
same neighbourhood.

Chew Lin

Re: [silk] English expressions that irritate me

[Chew Lin Kay]

What, is paradigm shift out of fashion already?

Re: [silk] English expressions that irritate me

[Chew Lin Kay]

I work for the government, which is a veritable minestrone of acronyms and
buzzwords (bowl of soup with flies?); I really should start paying more
attention during meetings. But I offer this: http://pls-revert.tumblr.com/

Re: [silk] The other side of photography

[Chew Lin Kay]

Because much like the wretch who drinks to be happy, the snappers are
deluded: they think their photos are creating memories, when in fact they
are sabotaging them.

I was one of them.

My junk was the real deal. Class-A stuff, the cocaine of the photography
world -- the digital SLR.

With this oversized device I felt confident. I felt virile. It made me
feel superior to the beaming, giggling amateurs fumbling about with their
pathetic phones and small, flaccid point-and-shoots.

It took an epiphany for me to kick the habit.

I was diving in Thailand, when a whale shark emerged from the gloom. I
snapped away at the beast with my underwater apparatus for the few minutes
of air I had left, then returned topside to high-five and celebrate this
potentially once-in-a-lifetime experience.

As I scrolled through the 100-odd pictures I had, I realized: they were all
I had.

My memories are framed by the 2x2-inch blurry screen of my camera. Not once
did I look up to see the fish with my own eyes. 

Srini and I saw this in action quite recently--the d'Orsay had loaned a
number of gorgeous paintings to Singapore. Other than the art students who
were doing studies, there was a whole lot of people consuming the paintings
via their cameras. So perhaps the museum didn't provide enough benches, but
what happened to just soaking it all in?

Re: [silk] In the UK.

[Chew Lin Kay]

One of my happiest memories of a short trip to Bristol involved riverside
coffee, sun in the face, children and doggies (only one was leashed)
walking past. A bit touristy, certainly, but very lovely.

If your mashup also involves animation or puppetry, will love to introduce
you to my Bristol host. :)

CL

On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 5:26 AM, Sidin Vadukut sidin.vadu...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 7:01 PM, Varun Sahni v...@yahoo.com wrote:
  We are in london - do let me know when you are coming thru.
 
  Best,
 
 
  Varun
 
  On 8 Mar 2012, at 21:01, Chandrachoodan Gopalakrishnan
  chandrachoo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hello,
 
  Just a quick note. I've moved to the UK, specifically Bristol (possibly
  London soon) to work in the rather interesting mashup between
  heritage/history and TV production. I will also be pursuing other
 projects -
  making radio/podcasts on a lot of other subjects, as well as remotely
  curating a documentary film festival in Chennai.
 
  If you're in the neighbourhood, or don't mind travelling here, give me a
  shout. Number's part of my sig, email id's up top-left of this post.
 
  C
 
  --
  http://about.me/chandrachoodan
 
  +447594553053

 Arrey sooper! Drop a line and we shall meet over copious small batch
 hand made ales.

Re: [silk] In the UK.

[Chew Lin Kay]

 Yes!
 Especially (not necessarily) if your host was/is part of Ardman.



Neither Wallace nor Gromit, but he does have a very large soft spot for the
Muppets. Does that count? :D

CL

Also! Museums! Must visit the ss Great Britain! And the M Shed!

Re: [silk] Diversity and trust

[Chew Lin Kay]

On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 8:35 PM, Srini RamaKrishnan che...@gmail.comwrote:



 We dislike people of other cultures, other races, other income levels,
 or in short, we dislike the other because we don't understand it
 sufficiently, and it feels too much like work.

 Anything that is not like me must be abnormal/bad/to be avoided

Re: [silk] Race

[Chew Lin Kay]

On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Charles Haynes
charles.hay...@gmail.comwrote:


 I think in the case of Singapore race here might be more usefully
 replaced with culture. There is a diversity of culture in Singapore
 with Teochew/Hokkien/Nyonya chinese, Malay, Malaysian Indian, and
 westerners and while there are correlations with class and religion
 but they are not exact.

 -- Charles


I don't disagree, but what things are, and how they are spoken about, are
two rather different things. For example, while immigration from various
parts of India have been happening for many number of years now, speaking
to an average Singaporean will likely get you the reaction of Oh, Indians
all speak Tamil, right?. The official discourse is written in broad
racialist categories (blame the British); the intra-ethnic diversities
exist and are negotiated in the every day. The broad strokes of official
policy means that the subtleties are often lost.

Re: [silk] Diversity and trust

[Chew Lin Kay]

On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 11:49 AM, Biju Chacko biju.cha...@gmail.com wrote:



 I used to think I was non-racist too, once. Now I'm just depressed by
 how many of my prejudices keep crawling out and surprising me. You'd
 think a guy who's lived his entire life in a multi-cultural milieu
 wouldn't keep pigeon-holing people based on how they look or what
 language they speak.

 Nowadays I think of myself as a bigot keeping a tight rein on his
 prejudices. I figure if I can keep my bigotry from actually
 influencing they way I deal with people, that's about as good as it
 gets.

 I find that the older I get the harder it is to maintain all my
 illusions about myself. Which is too bad, because my illusory self is
 way cooler. He doesn't have a bald spot, to begin with.

 -- b


I prefer to think that if one is not acting on assumptions, and one is
willing to consider the evidence (not the kind that lives in your head),
then it's not bigotry. Stereotypes exist as a useful shorthand etc etc, but
as long as we're living in real life, and taking to account what we see,
rather than what we want to see, we're probably doing all right.

I wonder what my illusory self looks like. HMMM

Chew Lin

Re: [silk] Diversity and trust

[Chew Lin Kay]

On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 6:46 AM, Srini RamaKrishnan che...@gmail.comwrote:


 On a recent visit I noticed that Singapore seems to do this at a
 larger scale - where there are a lot of neighborhood outreach programs
 that bridge the ethnic gaps. There are weekly meetings, outreach
 workers and such.

 Maybe Chew Lin can expand?


Arguably we need the state and civil society to do all these things because
left to our own devices, we hardly smile at our neighbours? :)

Throwing a comment out there until I find more brain space to deal with
it--there is diversity of race, there is diversity of religion, there is
diversity of class. In Singapore we talk a lot about racial harmony, and
we're starting to talk about religious harmony (banning Campus Crusade for
Christ from operating at the National University--not necessarily the
smartest move. But altar wrecking is not necessarily the best plan for
building goodwill either), but we've not, till recently, been able to talk
about the poor in the community (see: income gap as a big election issue.
unfortunately the rhetoric of they're poor cause they didn't work hard is
still a popular one in certain circles, and it all gets messy when race and
class intersect).

CL

[silk] Anupama Chopra: The Punjab-isation of Bollywood

[Chew Lin Kay]

Glomped from the Oct 2011 edition of Vogue India--

If aliens ever attempted to decipher India through contemporary Hindi
movies, they would be forced to conclude that the entire country is
Punjabi. Which also apparently means that all of us are exuberant,
boisterously affectionate affectionate and relentlessly cheerful. That we
routinely run through mustard fields (with dupattas trailing behind, of
course). That our speech is peppered with *assi*, *puttar*, *soni*, *makhna*,
*balle balle*, *shava shava* and (my favourite) *chak de phatte*. That our
men are solid and that our women dutifully kep karva chauth. And that,
given the slightest opportunity, all of us, including aged aunts and
uncles, are delighted to break into a rousing dance number.

WHen did Bollywood become Punjabi? The groundwork was set during the
Partition, when refugees like BR Chopra moved to Mumbai. Historically,
Bollywood's A-list families--the Chopras, Kapoors, Deols--were Punjabi, and
the on-screen families they created were invariably North Indian. But the
generic turned specifc with *Dilwale Dulhaniya Le Jayenge* in the 1995.
Aditya Chopra's monster hit--16 years later, it's still running at Maratha
Mandir in Mumbai--set the tone for the next decade. The reclusive director
also played mentor to Karan Hohar, who took the Punjabi baton and ran the
next mile. In films like *Kuch Kuch Hota Hai*, *Kabhie Khushi Kabhie  Gham* and
*Kal Ho Naa Ho*, Johar confirmed what we all secretly suspected--that
Punjabis have more fun than the rest of us. The result is now even a South
Indian NRI wedding must have a Bollywood night, in which everyone rocks to
'Maahi Ve' and 'Mauja Hi Mauja'.

The truth is, Bollywood and the Punjabi are a perfect hit. Hindi films are
larger than life. They are brash and robust. The best have an inherent
masti. In other words, they are Punjabi.

Re: [silk] Hello

[Chew Lin Kay]

Welcome, John!

Why is it not red in color? :-) Awesome truck though.


 Studies have shown that yellowish-green vehicles are more visible than red
 ones. However, most fire departments in the US still use red. For example,
 there are six towns on the island of Martha's Vineyard and six fire
 departments (although some of them are tiny, with only a handful of
 firefighters). Tisbury's trucks are green. All five other departments have
 red trucks.



I've grown up with red fire trucks and white + other colours ambulances,
that seeing florescent yellow ones in the UK made me wonder if someone took
highlighter pens to them...

Chew Lin

Re: [silk] Fwd: Re: Recommended Reading from 2011

[Chew Lin Kay]

On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Radhika, Y. radhik...@gmail.com wrote:

 COMICS JOURNALISM (preferred genre by author who described the term
 graphic novel as a marketing term)
 Palestine
 Footnotes from Gaza

 Both by Joe Sacco

 Burma Chronicles
 by Guy Deslile



Sacco and Delisle have vastly different styles but are both very
enjoyable--would also add Deslile's Pyongyang to the list. And while we're
on graphic novels, Blankets by Craig Thompson and Stitches, by David Small.

Re: [silk] Why this Kolaveri di?

[Chew Lin Kay]

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 3:50 PM, Thejaswi Udupa thejaswi.ud...@gmail.comwrote:


 the country conducting and taking part in quizzes for fun, and tend to
 take science fiction and heavy music rather seriously.


Who is this man and how do I quiz for fun (and profit) as well?

Re: [silk] Why this Kolaveri di?

[Chew Lin Kay]

 as for quizzing for fun and profit try your luck here (once you fly down to
 one of these cities)

 bangalore - http://kqaquizzes.org/
 hyderabad - http://www.kcircle.com
 chennai - http://quizfoundation.com/

 there are more, in one indian city or the other


Reason #2501 I need to visit India. And then of course I remember that
quizzing is a blood sport in that country...

Re: [silk] Why this Kolaveri di?

[Chew Lin Kay]

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 9:17 AM, Ashwin Kumar ashwi...@gmail.com wrote:



 It's torture being subjected to this in the office cab, sung by over
 enthusiastic cab mates, and the driver joining in for chorus. *sigh* I do
 not look forward to traveling again today.

 ~ashwin


Time for the good old days of the Macarena?

Re: [silk] Why this Kolaveri di?

[Chew Lin Kay]

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 3:38 PM, Venkat Mangudi s...@venkatmangudi.comwrote:



  
 
 Time for the good old days of the Macarena?

 Which one? Somebody I know has a whole collection of the different
 versions. :)

 --
 Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.


I should have seen this coming, shouldn't I? *facepalm*

Re: [silk] Query on wines.... and snobbery

[Chew Lin Kay]

On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 7:10 PM, Eugen Leitl eu...@leitl.org wrote:

 On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 03:32:37PM +0800, Chew Lin Kay wrote:

   Nevermind machorka, DIY from Nicotiana rustica.
  
  
  DIY meaning self-cured, or self-rolled?

 DIY meaning starting completely from scratch, with the green plant.


Gosh that is hard-core!

[silk] Niall Ferguson v Pankaj Mishra: battle of the historians

[Chew Lin Kay]

Link to Mishra's review of Ferguson's latest book here:
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v33/n21/pankaj-mishra/watch-this-man


 http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2011/nov/14/niall-ferguson-pankaj-mishra



  Niall Ferguson v Pankaj Mishra: battle of the historians

The two academics are having a spat. Is it time for them to step outside
and settle it once and for all?

   - [image: Patrick Barkham]http://www.guardian.co.uk/profile/patrickbarkham
   -
  - Patrick Barkham http://www.guardian.co.uk/profile/patrickbarkham
  - guardian.co.uk http://www.guardian.co.uk/, Monday 14 November
  2011 20.00 GMT
  -  larger http://www.guardian.co.uk/help/accessibility |
smallerhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/help/accessibility

 [image: Mishra v Ferguson]
It's Mishra v Ferguson Photograph: Corbis; Christian Sinibalde

It is shaping up to be the tastiest historical scrap since Rob Newman's
comedy professor character compared the girlfriend of David Baddiel's don
to Peter Beardsley. The warring academics, beloved of 1990s students for
their that's you, that is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UMedd03JCA
repartee, have made way for Niall
Fergusonhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/books/niall-ferguson and
Pankaj Mishra, after the latter likened Ferguson to Tom Buchanan in the
Great Gatsby.

As with all the best academic spats, spectators are advised to equip
themselves with a dictionary and a
historyhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/books/history degree
to follow the action.

Mishra, the Indian author and essayist, argued in the London Review of
Bookshttp://www.lrb.co.uk/v33/n21/pankaj-mishra/watch-this-man that
Ferguson was homo atlanticus redux, a retailer of emollient tales about
the glorious past whose books are known less for their original scholarly
contribution than for containing some provocative counterfactuals. Summing
up Ferguson's latest tome, Civilisation: The West and the Rest, as
gallimaufry, Mishra accused the TV historian and Harvard scholar of
ignoring facts that complicate his narrative of Western dominance, such as
Muslim contributions to science. Ferguson's acknowledgment of colonial
misdeeds was very selective and he was immune ... to humour and irony.

Ferguson responded with a letter to the notoriously left-leaning coterie
at the LRB, raging that Mishra's critique was a crude attempt at character
assassination http://www.lrb.co.uk/v33/n21/pankaj-mishra/watch-this-man that
mendaciously misrepresents my work but also strongly implies that I am a
racist. Mishra, huffed Ferguson, owes me a public apology for his
libellous and dishonest article.

It briefly looked as if Mishra would pour cold water on the flames.
Ferguson is no racist, he responded, before laying into his
pathological instinct to bow down before the conqueror of the moment
and tendency to say whatever seems resonant and persuasive at any given
hour. Time to settle this in court/the playground/outside?

   - © 2011 Guardian News and Media Limited or its affiliated companies.
   All rights reserved.

Re: [silk] Niall Ferguson v Pankaj Mishra: battle of the historians

[Chew Lin Kay]

One more review on Ferguson, from the NYT this time:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/15/books/niall-fergusons-empire-traces-wests-decline-review.html?partner=rssemc=rsspagewanted=all

*Gathering at the Wake for Western Dominance*

In his 2003 book,
“Empire,”http://www.nytimes.com/2003/04/18/books/books-of-the-times-a-mighty-global-power-and-its-heir-apparent.html?scp=2sq=niall+ferguson+empire+kakutanist=nyt
which
was published here in the immediate wake of the United States-led invasion
of Iraq, the popular British historian Niall Ferguson argued that the
United States was “an empire in denial” and was “capable of playing an
imperial role” in the world today, much the way Britain once did, in the
19th century.

Only eight years later Mr. Ferguson has written a tendentious new book,
“Civilization,” which asserts, with similar certainty, that we are now
living through “the end of 500 years of Western predominance,” that while
China is on the rise, the question is not whether East and West will clash,
but whether “the weaker” — that is, the United States and Europe — “will
tip over from weakness to outright collapse.”

The financial crisis “that began in the summer of 2007,” Mr. Ferguson
argues, should “be understood as an accelerator of an already
well-established trend of relative Western decline,” coming on top of
already serious debt problems.

“From 2001, in the space of just 10 years,” he goes on, “the U.S. federal
debt in public hands doubled as a share of G.D.P. from 32 percent to a
projected 66 percent in 2011”; when “unfunded liabilities of the Medicare
and Social Security systems,” growing state deficits and public employees’
pension funds are added on to projections, he contends, “the fiscal
position of the United States in 2009 was worse than that of Greece,” which
is now teetering on the edge of default and desperate for a bailout from
the European Union.

As usual, Mr. Ferguson, who teaches in Harvard’s history department and
business school, uses his powerful narrative talents in these pages to give
the reader a highly tactile sense of history. But his book as a whole has a
hurried, haphazard feel to it that underscores its genesis as a companion
volume to a British television series called “Civilization: Is the West
History?”http://www.channel4.com/programmes/civilization-is-the-west-history
Not
only do the book’s more cogent arguments owe a decided debt to ones made by
the New York Times Op-Ed columnist Thomas L. Friedman and the CNN
commentator Fareed Zakaria, but its more original hypotheses also tend to
devolve into questionable generalizations (“Europeans today are the idlers
of the world”), contradictory assertions and silly Power Point schemas that
strain painfully to be relevant and hip.

Indeed, the central thesis of “Civilization” is that six “killer apps”
(along with “the fortuitous weakness of the West’s rivals”) enabled the
West “to dominate the world for the better part of 500 years.” Those “apps”
were competition, science, property rights, medicine, “the consumer
society” (“without which the Industrial Revolution would have been
unsustainable”) and “the work ethic” (which Mr. Ferguson, drawing upon Max
Weber, associates with Protestant Christianity).

Much as Mr. Zakaria did in “The Post-American World” (2008), Mr. Ferguson
notes that in recent decades much of the rest of the world has become
increasingly adept at downloading such Western concepts.

Japan, Mr. Ferguson writes, began “copying everything, from Western clothes
and hairstyles to the European practice of colonizing foreign peoples,” and
in the 1950s “a growing band of East Asian countries followed Japan in
mimicking the West’s industrial model, beginning with textiles and steel
and moving up the value chain from there.” China, of course, has not only
become a vigorous market society, with the world’s largest population, but
also an economic behemoth, holding more than $1 trillion in United States
debt.

“In demographic terms,” Mr. Ferguson says, “the population of Western
societies has long represented a minority of the world’s inhabitants, but
today it is clearly a dwindling one. Once so dominant, the economies of the
United States and Europe are now facing the real prospect of being
overtaken by China within 20 or even 10 years, with Brazil and India not so
very far behind. Western ‘hard power’ seems to be struggling in the Greater
Middle East, from Iraq to Afghanistan, just as the ‘Washington Consensus’
on free-market economic policy disintegrates.”

Mr. Ferguson’s decision to structure this volume around his six “killer
apps” — a decision based, no doubt, on the six-part structure of the
British Channel 4 series — results in a book that, oddly, is schematic and
disorganized at the same time: An extended discussion of the French
Revolution appears in the chapter titled “Medicine,” as does a discursive
talk about imperialism that draws heavily on the author’s earlier writings.

As in his previous books, Mr. 

Re: [silk] Query on wines.... and snobbery

[Chew Lin Kay]

On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Eugen Leitl eu...@leitl.org wrote:

 On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 09:46:28PM +0530, Indrajit Gupta wrote:
  B.
 
  How nice never to have met a Russian cigarette.

 Nevermind machorka, DIY from Nicotiana rustica.


DIY meaning self-cured, or self-rolled?

CL

[silk] Looking for work? Here's a job fair touting tech openings in India

[Chew Lin Kay]

Someone from outside the industry wants to know:

a) why aren't the companies able to recruit from within India, or at least,
the region?

b) what are your thoughts about circular migration?

Chew Lin

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9221756/Looking_for_work_Here_s_a_job_fair_touting_tech_openings_in_India


Computerworld - U.S. companies have been hiring workers from India for
years, especially graduates of U.S. universities.

But Indian companies, as well as American firms operating in India, are now
trying to convince some of them to return to India.

A job fair http://indiahiring.shine.com/ at the San Jose Convention
Center this weekend is focused on helping companies recruit Indian workers
who may in the U.S. on a visa by informing them about the professional and
economic opportunities back home.

Organizers also stressed that the job fair is also open to anyone who is
interested in working in India.

Among the companies involved in the job fair are: Flipkart, an Indian
online shopping company; consulting firm Accenture; and Amazon.com, which
runs development centers in Indian cities.

Others include: McAfee, which is now part of Intel; SmartPlay Technologies,
an Indian semiconductor firm; InfoTech Enterprises, an Indian engineering
design firm; Indian manufacturing firm Jindal Steel  Power; Tata Motors;
San Jose-based Synapse Design; and UST Global, an IT services firm.

There are 13 companies involved in the jobs fair.

An East Coast version of this job fair held last weekend in New Jersey drew
about 1,000 people, said organizers.

A pilot job fair was held last year.

We are looking for professionals where there are gaps in the Indian
market, said Sandeep Bhushan, the business head of Shine, a career site
that is part of India-based HT Media, whose publications include the
Hindustan Times.

Indian companies need experienced people who can step into project
management roles up to senior levels, said Bhushan.

The companies are typically looking for someone with eight or more years of
experience and specific domain knowledge. The workers ahould have the
ability to lead large project teams and run large Web sites, said Bhushan.

A lot of that experience is right here in America, he said.

India's private sector is booming, said Bhushan, and though the salaries
may not be on par with the U.S., the cost of living is about one third of
that in this country.

India is pitched as a sea of opportunity in a PowerPoint presentation
about the job fair, with strong GDP growth rate, rising salaries, and
improving housing, healthcare and education.

That's in contrast to another slide that makes the obvious point that U.S.
has barely recovered from a downturn, with signs that it's headed for
another.

The return of Indian workers to India has been characterized as a reverse
brain drain, but Rajiv Dabhadkar, founder of the National Organization for
Software and Technology Professionals in India, believes that is a naive
view. He said he sees a more circular migration, where Indians will
continue to come to the U.S. for jobs and experience but may be more likely
to return to India than in the past, taking place.

Donna Conroy, of Bright Future Jobs, a group that has been critical of
companies that offshore jobs, was upset by the efforts of U.S.-based
companies to try fill jobs in India. It lets me know that they have
canceled America and the American global workforce off their list, she
said.

*Patrick Thibodeau covers SaaS and enterprise applications, outsourcing,
government IT policies, data centers and IT workforce issues for*
Computerworld*. Follow Patrick on Twitter at [image:
Twitter]@DCgovhttp://twitter.com/DCgov,
or subscribe toPatrick's RSS feed [image: Thibodeau
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Re: [silk] Noses are made, not born

[Chew Lin Kay]

On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 8:57 AM, Udhay Shankar N ud...@pobox.com wrote:



 Certainly, but native ability is only one piece of the puzzle - you also
 need a language to communicate your impressions, and a knowledge of the
 rest of the field - both of which are learned behaviours.

 Udhay



This reminds me of a wine-taster (competitive blind tasting to identify
vintage, grape, vineyard etc) I'd met, who had the vocabulary for wine but
not for chocolate. If we're drawing from the same box of crayons, why
should it be so...difficult?

[silk] Query on Indian-made wines

[Chew Lin Kay]

Hello!

Am un-lurking as Udhay suggested I write the list to tap Collective Wisdom.
I've heard of India (and China) collaborating with old world vineyards to
produce their own wines. Have their production reached a maturity yet, or
should I wait a few years? Does anyone have any recommendations? In short,
should I drink my Sula 2004 chenin blanc, or use it as window cleaner?

xo,
Chew Lin

PS: if you're in SG, am happy to share the Sula, or something else, with
you :)

Re: [silk] Query on Indian-made wines

[Chew Lin Kay]

Well it was going for cheap, and the chap said to drink it soon...

On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Charles Haynes hay...@edgeplay.orgwrote:

 A seven year old indian white wine? Drain cleaner.

 -- Charles
 On Nov 10, 2011 2:20 PM, Chew Lin Kay chewlin@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello!

 Am un-lurking as Udhay suggested I write the list to tap Collective
 Wisdom. I've heard of India (and China) collaborating with old world
 vineyards to produce their own wines. Have their production reached a
 maturity yet, or should I wait a few years? Does anyone have any
 recommendations? In short, should I drink my Sula 2004 chenin blanc, or use
 it as window cleaner?

 xo,
 Chew Lin

 PS: if you're in SG, am happy to share the Sula, or something else, with
 you :)

Re: [silk] Query on Indian-made wines

[Chew Lin Kay]

Is there anything from Indian vineyards worth drinking, then?

On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian
sur...@hserus.netwrote:

 Chew Lin Kay [10/11/11 11:28 +0800]:

  Well it was going for cheap, and the chap said to drink it soon...


 drink it AFTER you have a sizeable load of other stuff inside then the
 taste wont matter :)

 Else - as charles said, drain cleaner.

[silk] Bloody cricket, indeed

[Chew Lin Kay]

Isn't this taking things a bit far?



http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2010/jul/19/sachin-tendulkar-blood-memoirs?utm_source=twitterfeedutm_medium=twitter
 Sachin Tendulkar's blood used to prepare special edition of his memoirs

De luxe version of the Tendulkar Opus, costing £49,000, features cricketer's
blood mixed into paper pulp, tinting the signature page

[image: Sachin Tendulkar] 'It's not everyone's cup of tea' ... Sachin
Tendulkar, whose blood is being used to produce a de luxe edition of his
memoirs. Photograph: Gautam Singh/AP

Worship of cricket's little
masterhttp://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/profiles/sachin-tendulkar-little-master-1912365.html,
Sachin Tendulkar http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/sachin-tendulkar, is set
to cross a new boundary, as a luxury book publisher brings out a special
edition of his autobiography made with the batsman's blood.

Only for the most dedicated of fans, the blood edition of the Tendulkar
Opus http://tendulkaropus.com/static.php?page=index2, which also includes
unpublished family pictures and Tendulkar's thoughts about his career,
weighs 37kg, measures half a metre square and stretches to 852 pages edged
in gold leaf, costing
$75,000http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704518904575365221963293944.html(£49,000).
Out next February, only 10 copies are being printed and they have
all already been pre-ordered.

The signature page will be mixed with Sachin's blood – mixed into the paper
pulp so it's a red resin. It is what it is – you will have Sachin's blood on
the page, said publisher Kraken Media's chief executive Karl Fowler. It's
not everyone's cup of tea, it's not to everyone's taste and some may think
it's a bit weird. But the key thing here is that Sachin Tendulkar to
millions of people is a religious icon. And we thought how, in a
publishinghttp://www.guardian.co.uk/books/publishingform, can you
get as close to your god as possible?

As well as taking blood from the cricketer, Kraken asked for a sample of his
saliva and used this to create his DNA profile, which will be printed on a
two-metre gatefold in the book. What you'll be looking at is his genetic
makeup, said Fowler.

All proceeds from the sale of the 10 copies will go to Tendulkar's
charitable foundation to help build a school in Mumbai.

Kraken will also publish around 1,000 copies of a cheaper edition of the
autobiography at $2,000-$3,000 (£1,300-£1,900). Signed by Tendulkar, this
edition will also be a half-metre square in size and will contain around 75%
previously unpublished material about the cricketing star, as well as his
DNA profile – but not his blood. It is also releasing a $200-$300
(£130-£190) smaller edition of the book.

We're publishing next February, in time for the cricket World
Cuphttp://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/cricketworldcup2011,
which is being held in India http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/india. It's
perfect timing, said Fowler. He's never done an autobiography before and
has a great story to tell.

Other titles out later this year from the luxury publisher include a book on
major league baseball, one on Ferrari and one on Formula One. No plans to
use blood in any of these have yet been revealed.

Re: [silk] China’s Cyberposse

[Chew Lin Kay]

Thanks for posting! Am a bit surprised--how come there were no comparisons
made to 4Chan adn some of the campaigns against Scientology arising from
there, especially since that was referenced in an earlier article on
trolling (
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/03/magazine/03trolls-t.html?_r=1sq=trolling%204chanst=csescp=1pagewanted=all)
?

On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 6:52 PM, Srini RamaKrishnan che...@gmail.com wrote:






 http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/07/magazine/07Human-t.html?hp=pagewanted=all

[silk] Math (and physics) as universal languages

[Chew Lin Kay]

By now these would have gone all over the Internet:

Drake's law explaining student is more likely than not to remain single--
http://www.foxcharlotte.com/dpps/news/dpgo-Peter-Backus-uses-math-to-explain-girlfriend-woes-fc-20100112_5537488

And the response, arguing the reverse--
http://www2.warwick.ac.uk/fac/soc/economics/staff/phd_students/backus/girlfriend/diego.pdf

I do hope the public sees this humour as a way of getting a handle on the
math, rather than as academics burning through public funds...

Chew Lin

Re: [silk] Hello from a new acquisition

[Chew Lin Kay]

Hello, fuzzy liberal arts guy, fuzzy liberal arts girl here! I have resisted
punning about laying anthesthesized, but surely you will share why you
picked the monikor. :)

EiF works through providing a safe space (ie environment where you can speak
your mind while other people are discouraged from stoning you) to talk and
share--in terms of outreach we go through religious groups that we have
personal relationships with, in a way we are very much a word-of-mouth
group. We don't work with/for institutions, though each session is hosted by
a house of worship (host: physical space, quick sharing on faith tradition,
food), and our volunteers sometimes get roped into more official events.
In the previous two years EiF had organized camps for youngsters and a
conference for other inter-faith practioners in SG; I haven't participated
in either and so cannot comment.

On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 12:55 PM, J. Alfred Prufrock 
another.prufr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thank you for the explanation. Sounds interesting, How do you work -
 through schools, youth fora, structured or informal interations?
 (This is one of the few topics on this list that a fuzzy liberal arts guy
 like me can understand without extra reading)

 JAP

 2010/1/13 Chew Lin Kay chewlin@gmail.com

 I'm involved in a mostly-autonomous, government-supported (with the
 t-shirt to prove it!) programme, Explorations into Faith. EiF
 organizes dialogues on various topics to provide young people with a
 forum to share their views. Past topics include faith and sustenance,
 faith and political involvement, faith and the concept of evil..

 I enjoy getting involved because it's one way of getting past the
 dogma: ok, so here's what your scriptures say, now how does that
 translate (or not) to how we live? It's also one way of getting past
 the propaganda--Singapore is big on touting its racial and religious
 harmony, but tolerance and understanding are not the same thing. To
 wit: in parochial schools, Muslim students are automatically exempt
 from chapel but children from other religious backgrounds will need an
 official letter from their parents. This is a response to the
 missionary fervour of the eighties when the Christians specifically
 targetted the Muslims--it's an understandable, but ultimately
 illogical and inadequate response.

 EiF is small, and the criticism that we are preaching to the converted
 (har har) is valid, but the progress we make in creating relationships
 and channels for understanding is real. Which doesn't explain how I
 got involved--two reasons. One to get some facilitation chops, and the
 second, a disciplined environment to explore how I meandered to
 atheism.

 CL


 On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 2:29 PM, J. Alfred Prufrock
 another.prufr...@gmail.com wrote:
  volunteer inter-faith facilitator
 
  Please translate.
 
 
  --
  J. Alfred Prufrock
 




 --
 J. Alfred Prufrock

 Gliding wrapt in a brown mantle, hooded
 I do not know whether a man or a woman
 - But who is that on the other side of you?

Re: [silk] Hello from a new acquisition

[Chew Lin Kay]

I'm involved in a mostly-autonomous, government-supported (with the
t-shirt to prove it!) programme, Explorations into Faith. EiF
organizes dialogues on various topics to provide young people with a
forum to share their views. Past topics include faith and sustenance,
faith and political involvement, faith and the concept of evil..

I enjoy getting involved because it's one way of getting past the
dogma: ok, so here's what your scriptures say, now how does that
translate (or not) to how we live? It's also one way of getting past
the propaganda--Singapore is big on touting its racial and religious
harmony, but tolerance and understanding are not the same thing. To
wit: in parochial schools, Muslim students are automatically exempt
from chapel but children from other religious backgrounds will need an
official letter from their parents. This is a response to the
missionary fervour of the eighties when the Christians specifically
targetted the Muslims--it's an understandable, but ultimately
illogical and inadequate response.

EiF is small, and the criticism that we are preaching to the converted
(har har) is valid, but the progress we make in creating relationships
and channels for understanding is real. Which doesn't explain how I
got involved--two reasons. One to get some facilitation chops, and the
second, a disciplined environment to explore how I meandered to
atheism.

CL


On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 2:29 PM, J. Alfred Prufrock
another.prufr...@gmail.com wrote:
 volunteer inter-faith facilitator

 Please translate.


 --
 J. Alfred Prufrock

Re: [silk] Hello from a new acquisition

[Chew Lin Kay]

There is something on the server that is just eating up my messages.
:) Excuse the spam while we sort this out. :)

xo,
CL


On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Udhay Shankar N ud...@pobox.com wrote:

 Forwarding another message in this thread that didn't make it through.
 Weirdness.

 Udhay

 -- Forwarded message --
 From: *Kiran K Karthikeyan* kiran.karthike...@gmail.com
 mailto:kiran.karthike...@gmail.com
 Date: 2010/1/10
 Subject: Re: [silk] Hello from a new acquisition
 To: silklist@lists.hserus.net mailto:silklist@lists.hserus.net


 2010/1/10 Udhay Shankar N ud...@pobox.com mailto:ud...@pobox.com

    For kicks, I'm a fledgling perfume geek (purchase/wear, not mix),
    pretend towards chocolate connoisseurship and am a volunteer inter-faith
    facilitator in one of Singapore's local dialogue programmes


 Welcome Chew!

 I'm fascinated by what a volunterr inter-faith facilitator does. Please
 enlighten...

 Kiran

Re: [silk] Hello from a new acquisition

[Chew Lin Kay]

Apologies for the spammage, we're testing out a theory. Fingers crossed!

xo,
CL

On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian
sur...@hserus.net wrote:

 Udhay Shankar N [10/01/10 16:30 +0530]:

 I'm forwarding this message for new silklister Chew Lin Kay, as she
 seems to be having trouble sending email to the machine that hosts silk.
 The appropriate authorities are on the case.

 Sigh - received and then shunted (held over by mailman) as mailman barfed
 on whatever email she sent. Strange. Tell her to resend as plaintext
 instead of html, or with gmail's web interface, etc.