Re: CSHMS BEAGLE
Mariano Delise, nancym...@prodigy.net wrote: I am living proof that CS will help. I have MS, and have been drinking CS for over a year. It has given my life back to me. That's a *great* thing to hear. Maybe you'd like to describe your symptoms, treatment protocol, and signs of progress in a little more detail? We are always answering Does CS work for blank questions. All we have to answer with are testimonials like yours. The strange Organisms are mycoplasmya, and they are the cause of all auto inmmune diseases. It's too bad these pathologist's do not learn from each other, but must reinvent the wheel! Those medical people who are not selfishly protecting their turf are still locked into the system, whereby they are rushing full tilt from patient to patient in order to achieve the income they expect while opportunities for continuing education are dominated by the same medical education establishment that trained them. It's a rare physician that will go so far outside his or her professional niche to look seriously into fringe thought. We really need to take responsibility for ourselves and, if anything, help teach those professionals who will listen. Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSfw: Action - Protect Your Right to Use Alternative Medici
James, James, Jim, Bob, and all... I think that, behind the scenes, everything is well understood and the problem will not be soon repeated -- except for those who will insist on responding to old messages before catching up completely with their e-mail! sigh James-Osbourne: Holmes, For once you are not in my crosshairs! GRIN Nor was James Allison, whom I was only encouraging not to respond to the ill-targeted attack from Jim. Friendly fire was noted but no casualties incurred, I hope. I have been trying to be much more careful with list resources, and I have felt that you have recognized that. I believe you have, and I am quite grateful to you, as I am to everyone for their efforts to stay on track. Thanks again for your tremendous effort in running this thing, and I wish to express my admiration and appreciation for your balance of freedom and order. Quite a trick, eh? hehehe It's the day to day example of our active members that sets and holds the tone of the list. I do the vision thing sometimes to establish and correct our direction, but you folks turn the wheels. God Bless, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSfungus and CS
You would think though that the combination of cs and h2o2 would be effective even just slightly but nothing happened. It just carried on. The medium i used to grow the fungus was geletene with sugar. The gel was quite hard when i made it and did think it would grow anything, it took some time but it did grow. What tests can i try to proove to myself and others that cs does work? Take care damian At 10:50 PM 11/14/01 -0500, you wrote: Marshall said: Ah, that explains it then. Fungus grows roots into the gelatine, and CS does not have mobility in solids, so it never reached the roots. Once it plated out on the surface there was nothing to stop the roots from regrowing. H2O2 does have the mobility to get to the roots. Would Ringworm also grow roots into skin? (whether dead follicles or live) And CS, unless using DMSO, would not penetrate the skin. Is that why CS is not so effective on Ringworm? Connie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSWilliam Briggs - help with inaccuracies
Dear Mike, This site would appear to be so full of inaccuracies as to boggle the mind. I append my comments throughout the message. -Original Message- From: Mike Fuller [mailto:car...@touch88.com.au] Sent: Thursday, 15 November 2001 6:25 p.m. To: Silver list Subject: CSWilliam Briggs - help with inaccuracies Hi all, I will be attending a talk to be given by William Briggs, author of a book on CS (don't know the title), to be held here in Perth on Nov 26. I was invited, separately, by a couple of different friends, both of whom I have talked to extensively about the virtues of CS. Because of this I did a little net searching on William Briggs and found a site that appears to be closely associated with him, the Compassion Response Network: http://www.nw.com.au/%7Ekeane/healing/02CSHealthSafety/00index2.htm What I found was quite a number of, in my opinion, inaccuracies and half truths. I may be doing Mr Briggs an injustice by assuming that the statements are linked to him and, if that is not so, I apologise totally. If, however, these are really related to his ideas then I would like to be sure of my facts before my friends are exposed to his talk. Could those with a reasonable grasp of the following issues, selected from the various web pages on the site, please comment on them accordingly? Also, anyone who has read his book may be able to discern if these are similar concepts to those he has written. BTW, at one point Bill Briggs is described as Australia's leading authority on colloidal silver. On colloids, ions and salts: A Particulate Test, or Specific Ion Test. This test measures only colloidal (that is, ionic) silver, and can be expressed as ppm of colloidal silver True. A silver ion selective electrode (ISE) will register only the activity of silver ions (or sulphide ions). It does not measure concentration directly, but this can be inferred by the use of a calibration curve generated from the measurement of standards of known concentration. This is not a particulate test. Pure water itself does not conduct an electron flow, but ions (colloidal particles) and salts are good conductors for electron flow. I thought ions (Ag+) and colloidal particles were different. True colloidal particles do not conduct current in water, being clusters of uncharged atoms. Conduction in water depends upon free ions. As most Colloidal Silver contains a high percentage of ions the terminology has become somewhat blurred, however, when describing characteristics of colloidal silver in a (pseudo) scientific manner, one should be particular about the terminology. On what is formed when making CS: with most products, show that about 80% of the silver content is in silver salts or compounds. Rubbish! Given that one starts with pure water, and other substances are not added, it can be readily demonstrated that greater than 90% is found as silver ions or particles. Silver sinters off from the anode, forming either positively charged silver colloid particles, or combining with any salts or compounds in the water, forming silver chloride, silver nitrate, silver iodide or various other silver compounds depending upon the salts and impurities originally in the water. This is true as far as it goes, however, distilled water of any merit does not contain more than the merest traces of any of these elements (nitrate, iodine, chloride) in the parts per billion range. Even most of the genuinely electro-colloidal solutions contained about 80% silver salts, and some of these were in such high concentrations, or using toxic salts such as silver nitrate, that regular taking of them over years could lead to severe silver toxaemia and perhaps even diagnosed argyria. Rubbish! Show us the figures...from an independent laboratory...with traceable samples. This is just scare-mongering of the worst kind... More on positively charged next, but is ionic silver (the 80%) the same as silver salts or compounds? No. On absorption (adsorption?) and associated charge: Colloidal silver and silver salts however, because of their positive charge, are repelled by the intestinal lining, which therefore does not admit such positively charged particles to be adsorbed into the blood stream. Then of course we would never absorb sodium, potassium, zinc, copper, magnesium or any other mineral (being positively charged ions)...unless of course these are absorbed in the mouth and throat also by that negatively charged blood. But in the mouth and throat, the Ph balance is definitely alkaline, and under such situations, the positively charged silver colloid is rapidly adsorbed, that is, attracted and assimilated by the negatively charged mineral elements in the blood. I was under the impression that, while the ions had a positive valence, the colloidal particles were negatively charged. Colloids are negatively charged in some
Re: CSAnswer how to calculate ppm of CS at home
Hi all, Herx, many thanks for your ppm calculator, it's great to finally have a reasonable idea of the CS ppm I'm making. The ppm of my last CS batch is calculated to be 48.09ppm. I stirred the solution every two to three minutes, where possible. The color of the CS is clear in daylight and has a pronounced familar metalic taste. I'm definately going to incorporate a stirring mechanism next. Namaste, Leo. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSDark CS
Pam, Whenever you have colored CS, it is usually one of only a few reasons. Either your water is not pure (has minerals, etc., in it), or the silver is not pure silver, or you are cooking it too long. If you are using a quart jar, first add one cup of CS, then 3 cups of DW. Position the wires about 2 apart. If using 12 volts, brew for 45 minutes. If using 27-30 volts, brew for 20 minutes. If the water is turning color before the brewing time is over, I would suspect your water is not pure. This doesn't mean you can't make good, effective CS, but, if the water has some minerals in it, you will not likely be able to make clear CS. The CS you have made is perfectly good CS, but you should ingest more of it than you would need to if it were clear. Unless the silver you have been using is not pure, .999% Fine Silver (in which case you should not ingest one drop of it) having colored CS does not make it toxic in any way, just a little less effective (which is why to drink more of it). If you find that, after brewing your CS for, say, 45 minutes (depending on your voltage), the CS still turns gold or brown, brew your next batch for 35 minutes and see what happens. Now that you have silver wire, tell us what happens. If you have the same coloring experience, you are probably brewing too long. Anytime I over-brew, I get colored CS. I use that for myself and my family. I only sell the clear stuff (the customers only want clear). Terry Chamberlin Metabolic Solutions Institute RR1 314 Carleton Rd Lawrencetown, NS B0S 1M0 902-584-3810 voice 413-826-7641 fax service msi...@yahoo.com ___ Build your own website in minutes and for free at http://ca.geocities.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSQuestions and more questions
Hi again, folks: WRT the DW I was using, it was Arrowhead Distilled Water (steam distilled). It turned pink and then purple after I had diluted some of the stronger CS solution with some more DW (after it had been sitting in the cupboard for several days). Maybe I'll try Wal-Mart's brand next time. I'm in Southern California... I have read that different people on this list had varying success with Wal-Mart's brand of DW. As to timing, the first batch I made I let cook for about two hours (no starter). The temperature at all times was room temperature. Our evenings are now down into the 60-degree Fahrenheit range. For the later batches, I used some CS as starter. A couple of batches I let cook for an hour. The last batch I left to cook for a couple of hours, even though I had used starter. Pam Maltzman __ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSMildew experience
I have had to enter a very mildewed/damp building 2 times. The first time, I had a hacking cough for a month -- cured within 3 hours by my first contact with CS -- gargling and drinking. The second time, same cough was caught quickly and cured in about a minute with CS in a nebulizer. JUDY DOWN MAINE Serenity is a blue heron on Maple Juice Cove -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSfungus and CS
Morning damian, What tests can i try to proove to myself and others that cs does work? Some things work better in living creatures than in test tubes and lab experiments. Surely you can find some human subjects nearby. I have found well over 200 that are willing to experiment and test CS on a variety of ailments. Who cares what others think? Many are disbelievers and will remain that way. And I recently wiped out a bad infection of ringworm with CS. Wayne -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSfungus and CS
One of the quickest tests is to put it under your arms as a deoderant. Any odor should stop within a couple of seconds. Leave out a piece of uncooked chicken untiil it starts stinking. Pour CS on it and note the immediate termination of the odor. We use it in our garbage disposal when it starts smelling. Marshall Damian wrote: You would think though that the combination of cs and h2o2 would be effective even just slightly but nothing happened. It just carried on. The medium i used to grow the fungus was geletene with sugar. The gel was quite hard when i made it and did think it would grow anything, it took some time but it did grow. What tests can i try to proove to myself and others that cs does work? Take care damian At 10:50 PM 11/14/01 -0500, you wrote: Marshall said: Ah, that explains it then. Fungus grows roots into the gelatine, and CS does not have mobility in solids, so it never reached the roots. Once it plated out on the surface there was nothing to stop the roots from regrowing. H2O2 does have the mobility to get to the roots. Would Ringworm also grow roots into skin? (whether dead follicles or live) And CS, unless using DMSO, would not penetrate the skin. Is that why CS is not so effective on Ringworm? Connie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSfungus and CS ( RINGWORM )
Morning Marshall, At 11:34 PM 11/14/2001 -0500, you wrote: Could be. Unfortunately I am not very knowledgeable about ringworm other than knowing that it is a type of fungus. I don't know where I am getting the stuff, but I get about 1 infection per year. It seems to be related to hot weather, sweating, and working in the garden. The usual amount of 3 to 6 ounces per day does not seem to kill it. When I take 16 ounces twice a day for about 2 days, the infection stops itching and then the red spots and circles begin to disappear. I also use it applied externally to stop the itching until it is completely cleared up. This last time, I mixed some DMSO and AloeVera with it but could not tell that made much difference. The next time it happens, I hope to grow a culture and actually see this critter and identify it. Wayne -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHMS BEAGLE
I am living proof that CS will help. I have MS, and have been drinking CS for over a year. It has given my life back to me. The strange Organisms are mycoplasmya, and they are the cause of all auto inmmune diseases I`m going to send that article to my sister, who has MS, as well as diabetes and lung disease from second-hand smoke. I hope she`ll actually try CS!!! Marshalee -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSfungus and CS
I don't know if this has been covered before (guess I need to take my ginkgo more often), but has anybody tried CS on puppy doodles and piddles in carpet? I am speculating that if you kill the bacteria or fungus or whatever it is that gives that pleasant odor (sarcasm) that a number of people are familiar with, that the odor should disappear permanently. Can anybody help test this theory? If so, please post to the list any results, good, bad or otherwise. Thanks! Yours in health, James Allison - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 8:01 AM Subject: Re: CSfungus and CS One of the quickest tests is to put it under your arms as a deoderant. Any odor should stop within a couple of seconds. Leave out a piece of uncooked chicken untiil it starts stinking. Pour CS on it and note the immediate termination of the odor. We use it in our garbage disposal when it starts smelling. Marshall Damian wrote: You would think though that the combination of cs and h2o2 would be effective even just slightly but nothing happened. It just carried on. The medium i used to grow the fungus was geletene with sugar. The gel was quite hard when i made it and did think it would grow anything, it took some time but it did grow. What tests can i try to proove to myself and others that cs does work? Take care damian At 10:50 PM 11/14/01 -0500, you wrote: Marshall said: Ah, that explains it then. Fungus grows roots into the gelatine, and CS does not have mobility in solids, so it never reached the roots. Once it plated out on the surface there was nothing to stop the roots from regrowing. H2O2 does have the mobility to get to the roots. Would Ringworm also grow roots into skin? (whether dead follicles or live) And CS, unless using DMSO, would not penetrate the skin. Is that why CS is not so effective on Ringworm? Connie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSnew to the list
Hello, I just joined the list and have TONS of questions! My name is Darlene and I am just learning about colloidal silver. I have dabbled in natural health and herbs for some time, and will be pursuing a degree in natural nutrition as soon as my finances are in order!:)) I was hoping someone would reccomend a book on CS that would also explain on making my own. Until then, I wanted to know how one should take CS? Right now I bought some because I think I am getting a throat infection, and my doctor is on vacation. I have been on antibiotics so much these past few months and really do not want to be again. My resistance has been down due to stress, I lost both my mom and mother-in-law to cancer just a few months ago, needless to say my immune system has been like a yo-yo! How many parts per million is good? And can anyone reccomend a dosage for illnes, and for taking daily, like for my 7 year old, and my dogs? And what should I look for with stor bought as far as quality? I purchased mine at a nutrition store where I use to work, and have some knowledge of there quality processes so I trusted that it would be good, but I don't know enough about CS to really know. I have many more questions but don't know where to begin, lol. thanks again Darlene www.healthypetnet.com/friskypets -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CScs and dmso
List, Should dmso and cs be applied separately or can they be mixed in the same bottle and sprayed on the area to be treated? If they can be mixed, how long will the solution be any good?Also, my dmso is 99.8 (or .9)--anyway, very pure and comes in a thick white plastic bottle. As I understand it, we need to use not less a concentration of dmso than 10% to be effective against virii. Is this true also for fungi?I assume that a little bit more dmso than 10% will be ok too. Thanks. pj __ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: silver-digest Digest V101 #1098
- Original Message - From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 7:28 AM Subject: silver-digest Digest V101 #1098 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: silver-digest Digest V101 #1100
- Original Message - From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 9:17 PM Subject: silver-digest Digest V101 #1100 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: silver-digest Digest V101 #1099
- Original Message - From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 7:27 PM Subject: silver-digest Digest V101 #1099 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: silver-digest Digest V101 #1101
- Original Message - From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 5:21 AM Subject: silver-digest Digest V101 #1101 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSGot some more questions.
The CS was probably made too fast in too cold an environment and was not stabilized by proper hydration. It then agglomerated into large particle CS ranging from amber and violet to reddish. If you wish to rescue these batches, put a few drops of hydrogen peroxide in them and wait...but do not use them as starter for the next batches. Ken At 06:44 PM 11/14/01 -0800, you wrote: Hi again, folks: When I made my first bunch of batches of CS, I ended up with the better part of four quart-size Mason jars full of it. The last couple of batches were extra-dark amber. I put them in a kitchen cupboard, but the cupboard door was left open to light. Right now I have about 1-1/2 jars left. Last night I diluted what I had left with some distilled water. The CS looked kind of dark pinkish. Today, both jars have darkened again. The one I haven't yet tasted is dark amber. The other one, which I have opened several times to take some out of, looks actually purple. Is this stuff okay? Does CS have a long shelf life? Maybe I should just keep this dark stuff for topical use... my 12-gauge silver wire arrived the other day from CC Silver, so I want to try that out. Maybe that ribbon-shaped stuff I bought from the jewelry supply place wasn't as pure as they told me it was. Anyway, thanks in advance for your advice. I really appreciate your generosity in answering all my questions. Pam Maltzman __ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Tired of buying questionable qaulity colloidal silver at high health food store prices? Make your own high quality Colloidal Silver at home with this automatic process, current controlled colloidal silver generator. http://www.silverpuppy.com
CSHead UP newbies.
Hi Ya'all, You newbies are driving my crazy (or may be its only a putt) WHEN IN HEAVENS NAME ARE YOU PEOPLE GOING TO PUT DIGITAL MULTI METERS IN YOUR SYSTEM. You are like a bunch of blind people trying to describe an elephant.!!! All of you times and directions are so full of inconsistencies that only a divine being could understand what you are doing. Grumpy Ole Bob :-( -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFailed Experiment
Any experience using H2O2 or chlorine on evergreen trees or fruit trees for fungus? I found the second year spraying of my trees did not seem to get rid of the fungus problem. I had a cherry tree where 3 limbs died, only a couple limbs left. Cs sprayed twice a week turned it into one of my best trees this year. I removed the dead branches. Brickey -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Allergic reaction?
I'm thinking I may be having an allergic or toxic reaction from my body wanting to get rid of CS. I used homemade CS in my eye about 2 weeks ago...when I had a sty forming and it went away within a day, but I continued the CS for pain several times a day for 3-4 days. I also ate it thinking I may have staph in my body it could kill too. I have a lump over my eyebrow (same side) that is getting a little bigger each day over the last week. There is no redness, no 'pain' when I push on it. Last couple days I do feel occasional aches or pressure on top of head or rear of temple. Nice for removing wrinkles, but getting a little strange looking and a tad worried to know what it is. I did go to the doctor yesterday, but he didn't know what it is. If anyone has any clues, please reply...thanks! attachment: winmail.dat
Re: CSFailed Experiment
Judith: How do you grow the Stevia.? I understand it is very difficult to grow. Regards Harsha Godavari Judith Thamm wrote: Dear Damian, I have also tested CS as a fungicide in our nursery and found that I got better results from Stevia leaf than CS. Put 2-3 Teaspoons stevia in a litttre of water and let it soak overnight. Straain and store on a glass bottle. This solution will keep without refirigeration for months. You can boil the leaves and water for 20 ins, but I prefer the cold soak method. I dilute the murky green solution to half water half stevia liquid. Used it for propagating seedlings. [Note now retired from nursery - gone orgainic instead]. Regards, Judith. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAllergic reaction?
There appears to be a worm attached to the bottom of this message. Sound like it might be a Herx reaction to me. The thing above the eye though I have no idea. Marshall JB wrote: I'm thinking I may be having an allergic or toxic reaction from my body wanting to get rid of CS. I used homemade CS in my eye about 2 weeks ago...when I had a sty forming and it went away within a day, but I continued the CS for pain several times a day for 3-4 days. I also ate it thinking I may have staph in my body it could kill too. I have a lump over my eyebrow (same side) that is getting a little bigger each day over the last week. There is no redness, no 'pain' when I push on it. Last couple days I do feel occasional aches or pressure on top of head or rear of temple. Nice for removing wrinkles, but getting a little strange looking and a tad worried to know what it is. I did go to the doctor yesterday, but he didn't know what it is. If anyone has any clues, please reply...thanks! Name: winmail.dat winmail.datType: application/ms-tnef Encoding: base64 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSParticle size
Which production method produces the smallest silver particle size and what might that size be? A PBS special (NOVA, transcript #2815) two nights ago, Bioterror, casually mentioned that it was the U.S. strain of weaponized anthrax (confirmed by DNA analysis) that's being found in the mail, with a particulate size of 1.5 to 3.0 microns. (For those in the San Diego area, it will be rebroadcast 11/1...@4pm) Thanks, jr -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSFW: PI Notice: eBay Auction(s) Cancelled - INSERT TEXT HERE
I just got this from EBay. I listed one bottle yesterday. I made no claims with the listing, only the contents of the bottle (steam distilled H2O, silver colloids) and a description of the bottle. There were several CS products already listed prior to my listing. -- From: en...@ebay.com Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 16:26:37 PST To: wufn...@stargate.net Subject: PI Notice: eBay Auction(s) Cancelled - INSERT TEXT HERE Dear Connie (wufn...@stargate.net), eBay appreciates the fact that you chose to list your auction(s): 1663900863 Colloidal Silver with us. However, it has been brought to our attention that the FDA has found colloidal silver products to be unsafe. The FDA has classified colloidal silver products to be misbranded because adequate directions cannot be written so that the general public can use these drugs safely for their intended purposes. They are also misbranded when their labeling falsely suggests that there is substantial scientific evidence to establish that the drugs are safe and effective for their intended uses. Based on this information, eBay has determined that the sale of items containing colloidal silver will no longer be allowed on our site. Therefore, these auctions have been ended and all associated fees have been refunded to your account. For a complete text of the ruling by the FDA in this matter, please view the following page: http://www.fda.gov/bbs/topics/ANSWERS/ANS00971.html Please use the following link to view the FDA's About Me Page for more information: http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/usfda/ Per our current policies for prescription drugs and food products, eBay does not permit the listing of any components of prescription or over-the-counter drugs unless the sale of such components without a prescription has been approved by the Food Drug Administration (FDA). In addition, eBay does not allow listings containing drug claims - that is, a claim that the item is intended for use in the diagnosis, cure, mitigation, treatment, or prevention of disease in humans and/or animals (e.g., pharmaceutical drugs, contact lenses, misbranded dietary supplements). For more information, please review the following pages: http://pages.ebay.com/help/community/png-prescription.html and http://pages.ebay.com/help/community/png-food.html Please view our guideline page for a better understanding of our auction guidelines and how they affect the way you list your items: http://pages.ebay.com/help/community/png-list.html For information on infringing or illegal items or for other eBay listing guidelines, please view: http://pages.ebay.com/help/community/png-items.html For more information on why eBay has ended an auction, please visit: http://pages.ebay.com/help/community/png-endauction.html Future auctions listed that fail to meet our listing guidelines will be ended early and repeated violations may jeopardize your account status. We value you as a member of our community and wish to continue this relationship, so we must ask you to refrain from any violations of the Listing Policies or User Agreement in the future.TAB We thank you in advance for your understanding and cooperation. Please feel free to contact us with any questions or concerns you may have on our existing listing policies. Regards, ricardo x (en...@ebay.com) eBay Inc -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSUnidentified subject! YASH
I propose a new acronym YASH (yet another shameless hustler). Trying to be kind, Arnold - Original Message - From: Alvin Rose ar...@nf.sympatico.ca To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 7:50 PM Subject: CSUnidentified subject! Hi Listers If you're looking for information on Blood purifiers Zapperscolloidal silver or rife and alternative Medicine...You will find a wealth of information on these subjects as well as how to build your own unit and many other subjects...visit http://www.rtvc-2000.com and take a look at the info. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSTaking another look at side effect studies..... More evidence of probable misquoted studies commonly circulated
List: I have often tried to puzzle through referenced studies on the various side effects of silver use that are often referenced in reports and literature. Earlier today, I was seeking inspiration on how to program my up-and-coming silver bot - a net bot being designed to track down, follow and crawl links, then search through the tens of thousands of references found for interesting information. While I am still facing a programming brick wall, I found an interesting document while testing complex search strings. At first, I was unable to access the document because it was password protected. Not to be discouraged so easily, with a bit of creative effort ( wholly legal luckily ) I extracted the document in question. The document has been compiled by IPCS Inchem - International Program on Chemistry Safety, apparently with the cooperation of the United Nations Environment Programme and the World Health Organization. Since I am uncertain WHY the sub-levels of the site required full authorization to access the document, I am going to refrain from posting it. However, I will draw from the extensive citations. This document has gone a LONG way in clarifying some confusion on where some of the popular referenced studies have come from, and what types of silver were actually being used to actually draw conclusions. I will share interesting notes along the way... Oyster shells were examined for silver presence. The analysis was conducted by atomic absorption spectrophotometrically. The conclusion stated that no silver existed in the hard shell ( below 1ppm ), and yet the soft tissues contained 28-82 (±10-20) ppm (Casarett and Doull, 1975; Windom and Smith, 1972). Very interesting! It was silver salts that have been exclusively used to determine what body systems/organs adsorbed silver, and in which order... Lungs, gastrointestinal tract, through nasal mucosa, conjunctiva, and skin. It is then stored in the in the reticulo-endothelial cells of the skin, mucous membranes, liver, spleen, possibly bone marrow, in basement membranes, especially those of the renal glomerulus, and presumably in muscles (Ham and Tangue, 1972; Kanai et al., 1976; Bader, 1966; Anderson, 1966; Voldrich et al., 1975). All determined exclusively via various silver salts, which at this point were not identified. It is, however, extremely unlikely that silver chloride would have been used. 110mAg was administered to rats ( oral intravenous and intraperitoneal routes ) ( an isotope? ). No doses given, but the conclusions stated that 90%+ of silver was not absorbed. Less than 1% retention after one week from the initial dose was observed in mice, rats, and monkeys (Fnrchner et al., 1968) It seems that even mild degrees of liver damage considerably impair the ability of the liver to excrete quite small doses of silver (Petering, 1976). Unlike lead or mercury there is no evidence that silver is a cumulative poison (Petering, 1976). PLEASE NOTE: It is references like THESE that cause so much confusion... Petering did not use isolated silver... Proteins, salts and silver acetate... No information was obtained on the biotransformation of silver in the animal body except that absorbed ionic silver is transformed into metallic while being deposited in tissues (Petering, 1976). HERE, it appears, is direct evidence that ionic silver does not necessarily convert soley to silver chloride in the body, unless we don't trust Peterings definition of metallic silver. However, after struggling through the document, it is evident that Petering used silver acetate to do his ionic silver study. Perhaps somebody more chemically inclined could explain how and why Ian? Bob? Numerous enzymes were inhibited in vitro by silver ions. High affinity to sulfhydryl and histidine imidazole groups was observed. Silver ions compete with molecular oxygen as hydrogen acceptor, resulting in inhibition of glucose oxydase (Nakamura and Ogura, 1968). Interesting, but still an in vitro study. Protargol, a silver-protein complex containing 8% silver inhibited the in vitro prostaglandin E2 synthesis by bull geminal vesicles even at concentrations of 10-7M (Deby et al., 1973). Interesting, but apparently irrelevant to our silver. Silver ion is a very toxic substance when viewed from the standpoint of its action of an inhibitor of enzymes and as a metabolic inhibitor of lower forms of life. Biochemically, the silver ion (Ag+) can act as potent enzyme inhibitor (Chambers et al., 1974). It has been reported (Wagner et al., 1975) that in vitro administration of silver dramatically decreased liver glutathione peroxidase in rats fed Se-supplemented diets with or without vitamin E. It seems therefore that silver acetate exerts its antagonistic effects on Se (silver induces Se deficiency signs) through an effect on the activity of biosynthesis of glutathione peroxidase. Much of the biologic
CSUnidentified subject!
Hi Listers If you're looking for information on Blood purifiers Zapperscolloidal silver or rife and alternative Medicine...You will find a wealth of information on these subjects as well as how to build your own unit and many other subjects...visit http://www.rtvc-2000.com and take a look at the info. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHMS BEAGLE
I love to tell my successes story. I had relapsing-remitting MS all of my adult life (58 years), but was not diagnosed until 12 years ago. I went on Beta-Seron injections as soon as they went on the market at a cost to my insurance Co of $984. per mo. I had some numbness that would come and go in my feet, arms and hands. I had two not real major exacerbations and life was nottoo bad. I could cope. About four years ago I changed to the chronic progressive form of MS. At this time I went down hill VERY quickly. I was applying for disability since I could hardly walk anymore. I was using a cane, but the rate I was going, I figured I'd be in a wheel chair in a year or so.Every morning I would wake up and another part of my body did not work. In desperation I read a book titled How to beat MS (and what your doctor didn't tell you) by Nadine Wooley. She introduced me to CS. I drink 16 oz per day (a little all day long) and within 8 weeks I began to feel changes in my body, but this time I would wake up in the morning and I slowly started to get feelings back. It was like a reawakening. I went through periods that I call healing crisis ie my toes ached for about three weeks. I really didn't know what was going on, but then one morning I woke up and I could feel the cold tile floor on the bottom of my feet. It had been so long, that I forgot what that felt like. It was so exciting. Even today 1 1/2 years later I still get excited when I step on the cool tile floor. I must stress that the process is very slow and very subtle, but it is an absolute progress. I kept a very short journal of my progress as I improved and I would be delighted to share it with any one interested. I am so very convinced that MS is among Many Many auto immune diseases that will truly respond to CS. I would be happy to answer any questions about my miracle cure. Nancy nancym...@prodigy.net - Original Message - From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 1:51 AM Subject: Re: CSHMS BEAGLE Mariano Delise, nancym...@prodigy.net wrote: I am living proof that CS will help. I have MS, and have been drinking CS for over a year. It has given my life back to me. That's a *great* thing to hear. Maybe you'd like to describe your symptoms, treatment protocol, and signs of progress in a little more detail? We are always answering Does CS work for blank questions. All we have to answer with are testimonials like yours. The strange Organisms are mycoplasmya, and they are the cause of all auto inmmune diseases. It's too bad these pathologist's do not learn from each other, but must reinvent the wheel! Those medical people who are not selfishly protecting their turf are still locked into the system, whereby they are rushing full tilt from patient to patient in order to achieve the income they expect while opportunities for continuing education are dominated by the same medical education establishment that trained them. It's a rare physician that will go so far outside his or her professional niche to look seriously into fringe thought. We really need to take responsibility for ourselves and, if anything, help teach those professionals who will listen. Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: distilled water for cs
Distilled water is also produced by a dehumidifier isn't it? Leacy Life is Good! GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSThanks!
Hi all: Thanks for your replies to my questions. It will be a few more days before I make some more CS... I'm getting ready to go out of town for most of next week, then will make some when I get back for sure--with the new 12-gauge, . silver wire I got from CC Silver. When I got back today from doing errands, one jar had precipitate at the bottom, and the liquid was mostly clear. The other one is dark purplish. When I first made the batches, two of them were very light yellow, one was slightly darker, and the last one was quite dark. They were made at an approximate room temperature between 60 and 70 degrees Fahrenheit. Next time I won't cook it so long. Last time, I had intentionally cooked it past the time when gray swirls appeared in the water. I will not use this dark CS for starter, but will keep it for topical use. Thanks a bunch! You folks are great! Pam __ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSDistilled vs Deionized??
What is the difference between distilled water and deionized water? Can they bothbe used to make cs? Leacy Life is Good! GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSTaking another look at side effect studies..... More evidence of probable misquoted studies commonly circulated
Thanks for a couple of things. thanks for looking, thanks for taking it, thanks for letting us know name withheld by request (never know who's reading this, eh) -Original Message- From: Jason / AVRA [mailto:colloidalsilverd...@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 5:15 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSTaking another look at side effect studies. More evidence of probable misquoted studies commonly circulated
RE: CSfungus and CS
Thankyou for your replies. All the experiments so far suggest methods that are not so concrete, relying on how one feels, rather than what is. I dont mean to sound like a negative fellow. But to be accepted by mainstream dosnt it seem necessary to come up with some more concrete experiments. I dont think it is enough to say that by taking CS you were able to cure such and such because as someone pointed out we are complex creatures and any number of things could have caused a cure or remision. It may be that CS activates some other immune response, rather being the active compound in the cure. Dosnt this sort of thing bother you all. That is the unknowing? Anyhow thanks again and if anyone has got some more experiments i would be pleased to hear. Take care all damian -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@execonn.com] Sent: Friday, 16 November 2001 1:02 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSfungus and CS One of the quickest tests is to put it under your arms as a deoderant. Any odor should stop within a couple of seconds. Leave out a piece of uncooked chicken untiil it starts stinking. Pour CS on it and note the immediate termination of the odor. We use it in our garbage disposal when it starts smelling. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
