CSHVAC vs LVDC CS making
I have an idea although I think it is to technical for a faq I've heard people talking about different ways of making HVAC CS but how is this actually done? It would be nice to have a description of the various ways of making HVAC CS schematics would be nice also but I've heard of several methods of HVAC CS production but no description of what is actually involved -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSilver Compounds and electrobiological/electromagnetic response
I Anderson wrote: Hi Kevin, You ask a BIG question, which requires time to marshal a response. Does anaerobic metabolism cause cancer? It is in the mitochondria that cellular energy processes occur, normally by the oxidation of glucose with the products being ATP, CO2 and water. The process proceeds through a glycolysis phase which produces a small amount of ATP and lactic acid. The lactic acid would then be oxidised further with a much larger production of ATP, CO2 and water. Warburg found that the second phase did not occur in cancer cells, Hi, don't mean to be picky but I thought the energy cycle went from the high energy compound adenosine triphosphate to the lower energy one, adenosine diphosphate, and sometimes further to adenosine monophosphate, or AMP; yes? Take care, Malcolm -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS CS as nose drops
Hi; I posted some comments re: IV use of colloidal silver without considerations for sterility. This was because the idea that the CS would automatically be of a strength and quality to guarantee safety no matter what was not cleaned or how seemed to go beyond good sense, not because CS applied topically, or even IV, was dangerous of itself. I have regularly used CS in a 'spritzer', a little squeeze bottle that shoots out a spray, actually, both in my nose and throat and stop colds and flu dead in it's tracks if I get it in the first day. It works, every time, for me. When I didn't have a spritzer bottle, I just snuffled some from an eyedropper and it worked fine. I usually hit it two times about an hour apart, three if I remember to or if I start earlier in the day. Take care, Malcolm Printer Man wrote: Does anyone use CS as nose drops to help fight colds? If so, what kind of schedule or procedure seems to work best? Any concerns such as those listed in the recent thread on IV CS? Many thanks in advance, John __ -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPriorities (coconut oil)
Kevin writes: Notice #5; coconut oil is a no-no here, yet Mary Enig et al champions it as an anti-cancer agent. It is this kind of disagreement among alternative health practitioners that leaves one wondering. Unrealistic to expect total agreement of course... From an extensive 2-part article in current Nexus Magazine, Coconuts and Coconut Oil contain health-promoting saturated fatty acids and derivative compounds which have powerful antimicrobial properties: The food industry has, of course, long been aware that the functional properties of the lauric oils, and especially coconut oil, are unsurpassed by other available commercial oils. Unfortunately in the United States, during the late 1930s and again during the 1980s and 1990s, the commercial interests of the domestic fats and oils industry were successful in driving down usage of coconut oil. http://www.nexusmagazine.com/coconuts.html jr -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPriorities (coconut oil)
Website: http://www.coconut-info.com/ mailing list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/coconut-info/?yguid=60070201 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSUnidentified subject!
Hi Terry, I read your message with interest.. I have found Reams' theories to be a very difficult to critique mainly because he invented his own scientific jargon. However, his treatments appear to be valid and confirm in the most, what I have learned. What does seem to be missing is the recognition of the manner in which calcium becomes bio-available. Most diseased states benefit from an increase in serum calcium levels, it is the most needed of all minerals and is involved to some extent in every bodily process, so I guess it is surprising that it is one of the hardest to absorb by modern man. The requirements for the absorption of calcium are that it is ionised (dissolved) and that the vitamin D receptors in the small intestinal wall are populated with vitamin D. In these times of little sun exposure, and sun blocks, one needs to supplement with vitamin D if one wishes to absorb 20 times more calcium than one would otherwise. To my mind it doesn't much matter which type of calcium one takes, if one remembers that calcium will form insoluble compounds with phosphorous, and it is advantageous to take malic acid in the form of apple juice which will keep the calcium ionised long enough for good absorption. The idea that two different types of calcium will react together to supply useable energy I find suspect, especially considering that this will take place in the stomach. Once in the body calcium is transported into the blood by calcium-binding proteins which are stimulated by vitamin D, and from the blood the deposition in the bones is controlled by the calcitonin hormone released from the parathyroid gland. Calcitonin, along with inositol triphosphate control both the deposition and removal of calcium from the cells. The parathyroid glands are controlled by the pituitary gland, which lies behind the eyes, and is stimulated by FULL spectrum light, whilst inositol triphosphate is stimulated by cellular photoreceptors. So it can be seen that sunlight is a basic need for proper bodily function and instrumental in the absorption and distribution of the most important body constituent, calcium. Regards Ivan. -Original Message- From: Terry Chamberlin [mailto:tcj...@yahoo.ca] Sent: Monday, 8 April 2002 7:48 a.m. To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSUnidentified subject! I was wondering why there is such a difference between ones Urine PH, and Ones Saliva PH. Also, which one would give a correct indication of the body's Alkaline/Acid content.. Thanks, Grant.. The following is to address the pH issue, from the literature I give to all my clients. It is intended here for informational purposes, not as a marketing ploy. The Calcium Connection Determining which calcium your body needs Nowadays there is a lot of talk about our need for calcium. You will see products from milk to orange juice with the words Calcium Added! prominently displayed on the label. Nearly everyone knows how a lack of calcium can contribute to such health issues as arthritis and osteoporosis. Nearly everyone also knows that calcium levels have decreased significantly in our modern food, which is commercially grown in mineral-poor soil. To get enough calcium, most people recognize the need to take calcium supplements. But when you go to the pharmacy or a health food store, it can become confusing. You see all kinds of calciums. There is calcium carbonate, lactate, citrate and gluconate, which are on almost every shelf. Then there are the less well-known calciums such as calcium phosphate, sulphate, aspartate, orotate, hydroxide, plus others with names too difficult to pronounce! It makes you wonder: Are some kinds of calcium better than others? Does it matter which kind of calcium you take? Is it possible to take too much calcium? Can calcium hurt you? Do the various kinds of calcium affect the body in different ways? According to the late Dr. Carey Reams, bio-chemist and bio-physicist, our bodies need a balanced variety of calciums. He spent over 50 years studying and researching the affects of various calciums and other minerals on the human body. He found that there are essentially three categories of calciums to be considered: Alkaline-pH calciums (calcium hydroxide, phosphate and carbonate), Acid-pH calciums (calcium lactate and sulphate) and neutral-pH calciums (calcium citrate, aspartate, gluconate, etc.). pH, as used here, refers to the acidifying or alkalinizing effect upon the body. The body needs calcium from each of these groups in order to achieve balance for good health. Frequently people have an adequate amount of one kind, but a deficiency of the other. The presence of both acidifying and alkalinizing calciums is important because the interaction between the two is how both kinds are assimilated. Without enough of one kind, there is a poor assimilation of the other. Imagine taking a cup of vinegar and a cup of baking soda. If you dump
RE: CSSilver Compounds and electrobiological/electromagnetic response
Hi Kevin, Yes both high and low pH will kill cancer cells, indeed cancer cells kill themselves by producing large quantities of lactic acid. The acid drops the pH to a point where the cell can no longer function. A cancer mass is a core of dead cells surrounded by a skin of actively growing cancerous tissue... it is not the mass itself which kills the host, but the toxins leaking from the dead centre. Cesium or rhodium salts by their physical nature are able to enter cancer cells but are unable to get out, and being the most alkaline of all metals will raise the pH to a level which also kills the cancer, neutralising the acidic toxins as they go. This is called High pH Therapy and is something that I offer to people who ask me for help. Manfred von Ardennene, of Otto Warburg's students advances a therapy which relies on the massive uptake and use glucose to feed cancer cells, thus lowering their pH: In Europe, the sugar feeds cancer concept is so well accepted that oncologists, or cancer doctors, use the Systemic Cancer Multistep Therapy (SCMT) protocol. Conceived by Manfred von Ardenne in Germany in 1965, SCMT entails injecting patients with glucose to increase blood-glucose concentrations. This lowers pH values in cancer tissues via lactic acid formation. In turn, this intensifies the thermal sensitivity of the malignant tumors and also induces rapid growth of the cancer. Patients are then given whole-body hyperthermia (42 C core temperature) to further stress the cancer cells, followed by chemotherapy or radiation.19 SCMT was tested on 103 patients with metastasized cancer or recurrent primary tumors in a clinical phase-I study at the Von Ardenne Institute of Applied Medical Research in Dresden, Germany. Five-year survival rates in SCMT-treated patients increased by 25 to 50 percent, and the complete rate of tumor regression increased by 30 to 50 percent.20 The protocol induces rapid growth of the cancer, then treats the tumor with toxic therapies for a dramatic improvement in outcome. The irrefutable role of glucose in the growth and metastasis of cancer cells can enhance many therapies. Some of these include diets designed with the glycemic index in mind to regulate increases in blood glucose, hence selectively starving the cancer cells; low-glucose TPN solutions; avocado extract to inhibit glucose uptake in cancer cells; hydrazine sulfate to inhibit gluconeogenesis in cancer cells; and SCMT http://www.mercola.com/article/sugar/sugar_cancer.htm As Terry Chamberlain has pointed out, too high a pH is associated with poor digestion, constipation etc. This creates a dilemna for anyone already experiencing those symptoms (I have on and off) who wants to guard against cancer. A naturopath friends advice to acidify my system by taking lots of lemon juice, and for a while calcium lactate, certainly fixed up a bout of constipation Well that may be correct, but it has to be pretty difficult to be too alkaline, unless one is a strict vegetarian, or is taking large doses of alkaline salts. Lemon juice is ultimately alkaline forming as is calcium, the lactates are well tolerated by all except those with low pH. You may have been calcium deficient. Glad your on the move now though. Ivan. -Original Message- From: Kevin Nolan [mailto:ken...@optusnet.com.au] Sent: Monday, 8 April 2002 1:54 p.m. To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSSilver Compounds and electrobiological/electromagnetic response Thanks Ivan. As you say, a big question. Low cellur pH then seems to be a chief cause of cancer initiation. Does that mean that raising cellular pH will reverse the process once cancer has set in? As Terry Chamberlain has pointed out, too high a pH is associated with poor digestion, constipation etc. This creates a dilemna for anyone already experiencing those symptoms (I have on and off) who wants to guard against cancer. A naturopath friends advice to acidify my system by taking lots of lemon juice, and for a while calcium lactate, certainly fixed up a bout of constipation. regards, Kevin Nolan - Original Message - From: I Anderson i...@win.co.nz To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 10:09 PM Subject: RE: CSSilver Compounds and electrobiological/electromagnetic response Hi Kevin, You ask a BIG question, which requires time to marshal a response. Does anaerobic metabolism cause cancer? Warburg had quite a bit to say about oxygen and cancer, but I am not sure that he gave an answer to that question. What he did find in cancerous tissue was impaired or defective mitochondrial processes. It is in the mitochondria that cellular energy processes occur, normally by the oxidation of glucose with the products being ATP, CO2 and water. The process proceeds through a glycolysis phase which produces a small amount of ATP and lactic acid. The lactic acid would then be oxidised further with a much larger production of
RE: CSPriorities
The anti-microbial action of pure virgin coconut oil is but a bonus to its real benefits. The fact that CNO is a saturated short chain fat means that it normalises cholesterol levels, does not deplete the bodies reserves of antioxidants as do polyunsaturated fats, does not form toxic trans-fatty acids, is protective of the heart, liver and vascular systems, increases metabolism, causes weight loss and so on. It is the healthiest of all the fats. Regards Ivan. -Original Message- From: Russ Rosser [mailto:russros...@rovin.net] Sent: Monday, 8 April 2002 2:02 p.m. To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSPriorities Raw coconut oil? There was a HUGE thread about coconut's anti-microbial properties some time ago. The lists harps on saturated fat. Cancer was unknown among Eskimos whie their diet was up to 90% fat, in the form of RAW whale blubber, etc. Even the word eskimo means 'eats it raw.' --Russ -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPriorities
Fritz - we may not have come up with the definitive answer to the cancer puzzle, but the lack-of-response problem has been well and truly cured! Just glad to see so many considered views on this topic. It has certainly helped to clear up a certain amount of confusion in my mind, and hopefully for others too. Keep up your healthy schizophrenia. :-) Kevin Nolan - Original Message - From: Joseph Fritz To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 1:57 PM Subject: Re: CSPriorities At 12:16 PM 4/6/02 +1000, you wrote: I post a reference challenging the central tenet of oxygen-based cancer treatment, and invite comment. Number of responses - nil. Another lister posts an absolutist, rambling religious discource. Responses - overwhelming. Maybe it's time to rename this list! Kevin Nolan Kevin I enjoy reading all the posts on this list! I am very interested in cancer treatments/cures and all alternative therapies no matter what the disease. I know most/all doesn't help me at all but you never know when you might meet someone that it will. I especially enjoy the more technical discussions. I believe in only replying when I can add something or help even if it only helps someone laugh. Just because you don't get a response doesn't mean people aren't listening just might mean that we are not informed enough to give you an educated and/or coherent reply. Sincerely Joseph B Fritz PS I am an agnostic satanist discordian libertarian christian jew anarchist and sometimes I'm not PSS COMMIT RANDOM ACTS OF KINDNESS
RE: CSCancer: cause and cure
Jason, There is no point in attempting to repair mutated DNA, in my opinion. When a healthy cell develops a problem the cell self destructs, this does not happen in cancer cells and so they continue to grow. Best to kill them off. Some treatments such as polyMVA do work directly with the DNA, often allowing the cell to go into apoptosis (self destruction). The prime causes of cancers are many and varied, but the process is the same in them all. A pH of 7.4 in all fluids and tissue, except urine and stomach, with the proper calcium reserves, create conditions which make it difficult for even the worst carcinogens to gain entry to the cell. The central problem is an internal landscape which is chemically, and therefore electrically, unable to defend against mutagens. Such an internal chemistry begets an impaired immune system which is unable to repair the defects caused by ionising radiation for instance. I am sure that various electrical or EMF devices can cause an immune or physiological response, just as IR light, or sound can. Even colours or essential oils have this property, as does acupuncture or meditation or the laying on of hands. But the bottom line is that the internal landscape needs adjustment for lasting results and may be sufficient in and of itself. Regards Ivan -Original Message- From: AVRA / Jason [mailto:silverd...@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, 8 April 2002 5:43 p.m. To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCancer: cause and cure Kevin: I agree with your thinking. When one central cause for something is usually found, then one central cure usually suffices; vitamic C always cures Scurvy. That is why my primary and fundamental method of treatment is based in natural medicine. Oxygen treatments don't always work, that is for certain. You move the body toward a state of improved health, while addressing identifiable and treatable conditions directly. I believe the oxygen issue is a symptom of a cause, not a cause. I believe the PH issue can be both a symtpom and a cause. I believe the DNA issue can be a symptom and a cause. Solvents and other chemicals in the body can be a cause. Radiation can be a cause. Deficiencies can be a cause. Electromagnetic pollution can be a cause. In all of my experience with cancers, the one central theme I have noticed is that all cancer has been demonstrated ( to me ) to be an immune system deficiency. I've heard it said that cancer can be an immune system over-response, but this is not my experience. Dr. Robert O. Beck's research makes the most sense to me, as his observations fit soundly with all the symptoms and causes of cancer that I am aware of. The central problem is cell differentiation, the causes are multitudinous. If it is a DNA problem, then the cancer will have to be destroyed, or the DNA repair mechanisms corrected. If the DNA is shortened, how are any of these so-called cancer cures going to affect an absolute change, without eliminating the cells? The answer is that they aren't. The individual is going to die, despite internet websites touting six hundred thousand cancer cures. There are very few researchers capable of direct DNA repair. What about modified DNA? Oxygen therapy isn't going to correct this, neither is a proper PH balance. The cancer is going to create the conditions that promotes its own survival, and it is VERY capable of doing so, as it is a primitive cell structure. The body is not going to recognize the cancer as an invasive agent. The dead person won't be able to tell the world of all the failed alt cancer cures tried, and the families are usually to embarrased to speak out. The ongoing DNA repair work, on many levels, shows extreme promise. The methods are through scalar wave technology and other multi-dimensional energy approaches. I'm involved in some aspects of this type of research, which is still years away from true practical application. Sonic waveforms show great promise. The problem is that the technology that can accurately measure subtle forms of energy is just now becoming readily available. The technology allowing complete measurement of DNA sequencing has also been slow to surface. The problem here is that weapons applications has kept much of this technology non-commercial. Since it costs hundreds of thousands of dollars just to obtain the basic equipment needed, independent research has been very slow due to a complete lack of funding outside of defense applications. Those involved in such research applications ( myself included ) cannot share too much along these lines, because the hundreds of thousands of dollars in measurement equipment rapidly translates to millions of dollars in applications equipment... If the primary interests are not protected, then there would be no research at all. True, repeatable medical applications are still quite a ways off, at any rate. But
RE: CSSilver Compounds and electrobiological/electromagnetic response
Indeed, But I was describing the Krebs cycle which takes place in the lumen of the mitochondria and is about the production of adenosine triphosphate (ATP) via firstly glycolysis and finally oxidation of lactic acid, the product of the first stage. The second stage produces about 5 times more ATP than the first. The ATP is then available as an energy source for cellular function by reduction to the species you mention. Regards Ivan. -Original Message- From: Malcolm Stebbins [mailto:s...@asis.com] Sent: Monday, 8 April 2002 5:52 p.m. To: *Silver-List* (E-mail) Subject: Re: CSSilver Compounds and electrobiological/electromagnetic response I Anderson wrote: Hi Kevin, You ask a BIG question, which requires time to marshal a response. Does anaerobic metabolism cause cancer? It is in the mitochondria that cellular energy processes occur, normally by the oxidation of glucose with the products being ATP, CO2 and water. The process proceeds through a glycolysis phase which produces a small amount of ATP and lactic acid. The lactic acid would then be oxidised further with a much larger production of ATP, CO2 and water. Warburg found that the second phase did not occur in cancer cells, Hi, don't mean to be picky but I thought the energy cycle went from the high energy compound adenosine triphosphate to the lower energy one, adenosine diphosphate, and sometimes further to adenosine monophosphate, or AMP; yes? Take care, Malcolm -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPriorities
Russ, your point on raw vs processed is a good one. However the listing makes no such distinction for coconut oil. The fact that cancer is virtually unknown among nearly all primitive societies is surely pointing the finger at western diet, lifestyle and polution as a, if not the, the major causative. To what extent western medicine's elimination of many infectious diseases and better hygiene has perhaps actually increased cancer rates (by pushing up the average life span, and suppressing survival-of-the-fittest selection pressures) is perhaps a mute point. Kevin Nolan - Original Message - From: Russ Rosser russros...@rovin.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 12:01 PM Subject: Re: CSPriorities I think it's imperative to distinguish between the essential food product and its processing! If you buy fats/oils in a form that has stable shelf-life, it may be damaged. Concerning this list... Foods Associated With Cancer Risk 1.. Fat, smoked, and cured meat - Harmful nitrites and nitrates. 2.. Butter, cream, high-fat cheeses - Non-essential saturated fat. 3.. Margarine and commercial oils - Harmful compounds. 4.. Vegetable shortening - Hydrogenated vegetable oils 5.. Tropical oils-palm and coconut - Non-essential. 4 5 aren't about oils at all--they're about the hydrogenation process, which turns any oil into a tool of mass population-reduction. Raw butter cream are actually *medicinal,* and raw cheeses are concentrated sources of thousands of different strains of friendly bacteria. Only rarified, industrialized products merit such one-dimensional critique. Notice #5; coconut oil is a no-no here, yet Mary Enig et al champions it as an anti-cancer agent. It is this kind of disagreement among alternative health practitioners that leaves one wondering. Raw coconut oil? There was a HUGE thread about coconut's anti-microbial properties some time ago. The lists harps on saturated fat. Cancer was unknown among Eskimos whie their diet was up to 90% fat, in the form of RAW whale blubber, etc. Even the word eskimo means 'eats it raw.' --Russ -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSilver Compounds and electrobiological/electromagnetic response
Thanks again Ivan. SCMT sounds like a tightrope act to me, but in skilled hands it obviously has a place. That cesium/rhodium treatment sounds interesting - is it a specific or general therapy, and what level of success have you found, if I may ask? As for lactates being well tolerated, in the general food sensitivity sense probably so. However, as I had prior hypothesized, it turned out that while taking calcium lactate, fatigue resistance was dramatically reduced. After a run that normally was no big deal I found that after crouching down was then unable to stand up again without nearly blacking out, over about an hour interval. Lactic acid is after all a waste product of exercise, so was not entirely surprised. regards, Kevin Nolan - Original Message - From: I Anderson i...@win.co.nz To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 9:02 PM Subject: RE: CSSilver Compounds and electrobiological/electromagnetic response Hi Kevin, Yes both high and low pH will kill cancer cells, indeed cancer cells kill themselves by producing large quantities of lactic acid. The acid drops the pH to a point where the cell can no longer function. A cancer mass is a core of dead cells surrounded by a skin of actively growing cancerous tissue... it is not the mass itself which kills the host, but the toxins leaking from the dead centre. Cesium or rhodium salts by their physical nature are able to enter cancer cells but are unable to get out, and being the most alkaline of all metals will raise the pH to a level which also kills the cancer, neutralising the acidic toxins as they go. This is called High pH Therapy and is something that I offer to people who ask me for help. Manfred von Ardennene, of Otto Warburg's students advances a therapy which relies on the massive uptake and use glucose to feed cancer cells, thus lowering their pH: In Europe, the sugar feeds cancer concept is so well accepted that oncologists, or cancer doctors, use the Systemic Cancer Multistep Therapy (SCMT) protocol. Conceived by Manfred von Ardenne in Germany in 1965, SCMT entails injecting patients with glucose to increase blood-glucose concentrations. This lowers pH values in cancer tissues via lactic acid formation. In turn, this intensifies the thermal sensitivity of the malignant tumors and also induces rapid growth of the cancer. Patients are then given whole-body hyperthermia (42 C core temperature) to further stress the cancer cells, followed by chemotherapy or radiation.19 SCMT was tested on 103 patients with metastasized cancer or recurrent primary tumors in a clinical phase-I study at the Von Ardenne Institute of Applied Medical Research in Dresden, Germany. Five-year survival rates in SCMT-treated patients increased by 25 to 50 percent, and the complete rate of tumor regression increased by 30 to 50 percent.20 The protocol induces rapid growth of the cancer, then treats the tumor with toxic therapies for a dramatic improvement in outcome. The irrefutable role of glucose in the growth and metastasis of cancer cells can enhance many therapies. Some of these include diets designed with the glycemic index in mind to regulate increases in blood glucose, hence selectively starving the cancer cells; low-glucose TPN solutions; avocado extract to inhibit glucose uptake in cancer cells; hydrazine sulfate to inhibit gluconeogenesis in cancer cells; and SCMT http://www.mercola.com/article/sugar/sugar_cancer.htm As Terry Chamberlain has pointed out, too high a pH is associated with poor digestion, constipation etc. This creates a dilemna for anyone already experiencing those symptoms (I have on and off) who wants to guard against cancer. A naturopath friends advice to acidify my system by taking lots of lemon juice, and for a while calcium lactate, certainly fixed up a bout of constipation Well that may be correct, but it has to be pretty difficult to be too alkaline, unless one is a strict vegetarian, or is taking large doses of alkaline salts. Lemon juice is ultimately alkaline forming as is calcium, the lactates are well tolerated by all except those with low pH. You may have been calcium deficient. Glad your on the move now though. Ivan. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CScs and teeth
My dentist has mentioned that I have pockets too...but no plaque since using CS as a mouthwash...and no tarter and no new cavities for years. ken At 08:03 PM 4/7/02 -0500, you wrote: Shirley, I don't quite understand. I don't have an abcess. I have had pirreah (sp?) in the past and get my teeth professionally cleaned every three months. I eat healthy, take many herbs/vitamins, etc. I have pockets on two teeth that even though I use the proxy brush to clean up in the pocket, I can't get the pocket to shrink back against the tooth Are you saying puting the CS in the ear canal will help these pockets? I have no pain. I just don't want to have the surgery on these two teeth where they cut the gum to get rid of the pockets so plaque won't form in them. Thanks, Bobbye - Original Message - From: Shirley Reed pj20...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 12:56 PM Subject: CScs and teeth Bobbye, this may sound ridiculous but it won't cost you anything to try it and no one need know about it. If you will put cs in the ear canal and lie down for 15 minutes with it in the ear canal and do this for each ear---then you will get great relief for the tooth abcess. You may get total relief. And it is almost instant. After a few days or weeks, you may need to do this again. It is not, in my experience, a cure, but is an excellent treatment and palliative. pj __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSilver Compounds and electrobiological/electromagnetic response
Hi Ivan, guess I got your intent backward, sorry! I thought you were discussing the breakdown products of cellular energy use, not the re-forming of ATP; my goof. Malcolm I Anderson wrote: Indeed, But I was describing the Krebs cycle which takes place in the lumen of the mitochondria and is about the production of adenosine triphosphate (ATP) via firstly glycolysis and finally oxidation of lactic acid, the product of the first stage. The second stage produces about 5 times more ATP than the first. The ATP is then available as an energy source for cellular function by reduction to the species you mention. Regards Ivan. -Original Message- From: Malcolm Stebbins [mailto:s...@asis.com] Sent: Monday, 8 April 2002 5:52 p.m. To: *Silver-List* (E-mail) Subject: Re: CSSilver Compounds and electrobiological/electromagnetic response I Anderson wrote: Hi Kevin, You ask a BIG question, which requires time to marshal a response. Does anaerobic metabolism cause cancer? It is in the mitochondria that cellular energy processes occur, normally by the oxidation of glucose with the products being ATP, CO2 and water. The process proceeds through a glycolysis phase which produces a small amount of ATP and lactic acid. The lactic acid would then be oxidised further with a much larger production of ATP, CO2 and water. Warburg found that the second phase did not occur in cancer cells, Hi, don't mean to be picky but I thought the energy cycle went from the high energy compound adenosine triphosphate to the lower energy one, adenosine diphosphate, and sometimes further to adenosine monophosphate, or AMP; yes? Take care, Malcolm -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCancer: cause and cure
As always Jason you are quite the independent thinker. I have been impressed enough with your prior testimonial and the Altcancer site to order their mysterious OH product. That bit about Pentium II's and III's has rung an alarm bell. Could be coincidence, but ever since spending much more time than previously next to my PII machine, have been experiencing increasing neuralgic headache and vague, shifting aches and pains. Other listers posts about trouble from exposure to monitors and fluorescent lights also come to mind. Time to take EM pollution seriously! Your work with the likes of scalar-wave and holographic technology is way beyond my experience, but I certainly hope you obtain success and will be keen to follow your progress. regards, Kevin Nolan - Original Message - From: AVRA / Jason silverd...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 3:42 PM Subject: Re: CSCancer: cause and cure Kevin: I agree with your thinking. When one central cause for something is usually found, then one central cure usually suffices; vitamic C always cures Scurvy. That is why my primary and fundamental method of treatment is based in natural medicine. Oxygen treatments don't always work, that is for certain. You move the body toward a state of improved health, while addressing identifiable and treatable conditions directly. I believe the oxygen issue is a symptom of a cause, not a cause. I believe the PH issue can be both a symtpom and a cause. I believe the DNA issue can be a symptom and a cause. Solvents and other chemicals in the body can be a cause. Radiation can be a cause. Deficiencies can be a cause. Electromagnetic pollution can be a cause. In all of my experience with cancers, the one central theme I have noticed is that all cancer has been demonstrated ( to me ) to be an immune system deficiency. I've heard it said that cancer can be an immune system over-response, but this is not my experience. Dr. Robert O. Beck's research makes the most sense to me, as his observations fit soundly with all the symptoms and causes of cancer that I am aware of. The central problem is cell differentiation, the causes are multitudinous. If it is a DNA problem, then the cancer will have to be destroyed, or the DNA repair mechanisms corrected. If the DNA is shortened, how are any of these so-called cancer cures going to affect an absolute change, without eliminating the cells? The answer is that they aren't. The individual is going to die, despite internet websites touting six hundred thousand cancer cures. There are very few researchers capable of direct DNA repair. What about modified DNA? Oxygen therapy isn't going to correct this, neither is a proper PH balance. The cancer is going to create the conditions that promotes its own survival, and it is VERY capable of doing so, as it is a primitive cell structure. The body is not going to recognize the cancer as an invasive agent. The dead person won't be able to tell the world of all the failed alt cancer cures tried, and the families are usually to embarrased to speak out. The ongoing DNA repair work, on many levels, shows extreme promise. The methods are through scalar wave technology and other multi-dimensional energy approaches. I'm involved in some aspects of this type of research, which is still years away from true practical application. Sonic waveforms show great promise. The problem is that the technology that can accurately measure subtle forms of energy is just now becoming readily available. The technology allowing complete measurement of DNA sequencing has also been slow to surface. The problem here is that weapons applications has kept much of this technology non-commercial. Since it costs hundreds of thousands of dollars just to obtain the basic equipment needed, independent research has been very slow due to a complete lack of funding outside of defense applications. Those involved in such research applications ( myself included ) cannot share too much along these lines, because the hundreds of thousands of dollars in measurement equipment rapidly translates to millions of dollars in applications equipment... If the primary interests are not protected, then there would be no research at all. True, repeatable medical applications are still quite a ways off, at any rate. But it really is something to keep an eye out for in the future. If the cancer cause is through something like heavy metal poisoning, the body must be stimulated to be able to cleanse itself. That is the ACTION that needs to be taken, and I'm sure that many of the suggested treatments accomplish this. If one has severe organ deficiencies, without correcting this, the therapies will also be largely innefective. Some may be dangerous. Chelating the metals out can sometimes cause more damage, as they can simply dump the heavy metals back into the active metabolism. Liver
Re: CSColloidal silver and a pregnant woman is safe; drugs and vaccinations are not safe
New borns have to learn how to see. Not so much that their vision is blurred as it is they cannot identify anything. It takes time to associate meaning to visual input, of course, Mom is usually the first meaning. Vision is built like a vocabulary. Read Anthropologist on Mars [forgot the authors name but he's a renowned neuro surgeon] For instance: He did an operation that allowed a 50s yr old man blind from birth to see. His vision was clear but he could not distinguish between a cube and a globe without touching it. ken At 08:51 AM 4/7/02 -0700, you wrote: Colloidal silver is safe for children and newborn babies. It is given in newborn babies' eyes at birth. Pure colloidal silver is better than the ones used in hospitals, which has another ingredient which isn't very good. It blurs the vision of the newborn and prevents bonding between the baby and mother, from what I've heard, because eye contact is important. Tell your daughter to read about safe, normal childbirth. No forceps. Forceps have done brain damage to lots of kids. Sam was braindamaged at birth by forceps. http://www.sambiser.com/ No vaccinations. Vaccinations have caused brain damage, cancer, and all sorts of violent behavior according to Rev. Hanna Kroeger, whose own daughter suffered from all of these symptoms after vaccination. An RNA virus from animals have been in vaccine and can damage the brain. Hanna Kroeger says many flower children were vaccinated, and could no longer function in school. Hanna's intelligent daughter loved school until she was vaccinated. Three days after the vaccination, diseases started and school became torturous. Thousands of children had brain damage while the news media praised the vaccine. Hanna's daughter eventually had a death experience, and saw heaven and Jesus. Jesus told her that her mission was not yet completed, so she was sent back to life. You can read the story in the book: Free Your Body of Tumors and Cysts. http://www.kroegerherb.com/kro_hanbooks_line.html \\\ =(o o)= ++--V---+++ Dear frienda, I am happy to be a member of your group because there is so much information after many years of experience about the uses of colloidal silver. My daughter-in--law has been using with success a lot colloidal silver to fight high blood pressure. Now she is 2 months pregnant and we would be grateful to know if she can eventually take colloidal silver without any risk to the child. Thank you for your help B. Demoiseau -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCancer: cause and cure
Ivan: Point and case is a very virulent basil cell cancer I've just been made aware of. The individual has been on a strict alkaline diet now for a long time, and has been given a death sentance by the Mao Clinic. The individual is a vegetarian as well. The change in the alkaline conditions of the body have done absolutely nothing to slow the cancer growth. While this may surprise others, it doesn't surprise me. I haven't met an honest cancer expert that doesn't agree with the idea that a body alkaline environment isn't always enough. DNA repair is absolutely critical in another arena of research, life extension... I agree that as far as cancer is concerned, the direct repair of DNA is really not ideal. But when one is talking about accelerating cell functions, it is critical that one begins with optimally functioning cells. Needless to say, it really pisses me off that places like the Mayo clinic are trashing people's lives. It further upsets me that any treatment is touted as the cure, which leads the individual to stop seeking a solution, thinking that what they are doing is enough. This individual has lost an eye, and may lose another, because the cancer has not responded to treatment, and is now fully inoperable. None of all of that was necessary. Jason - Original Message - From: I Anderson i...@win.co.nz To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 4:55 AM Subject: RE: CSCancer: cause and cure Jason, There is no point in attempting to repair mutated DNA, in my opinion. When a healthy cell develops a problem the cell self destructs, this does not happen in cancer cells and so they continue to grow. Best to kill them off. Some treatments such as polyMVA do work directly with the DNA, often allowing the cell to go into apoptosis (self destruction). The prime causes of cancers are many and varied, but the process is the same in them all. A pH of 7.4 in all fluids and tissue, except urine and stomach, with the proper calcium reserves, create conditions which make it difficult for even the worst carcinogens to gain entry to the cell. The central problem is an internal landscape which is chemically, and therefore electrically, unable to defend against mutagens. Such an internal chemistry begets an impaired immune system which is unable to repair the defects caused by ionising radiation for instance. I am sure that various electrical or EMF devices can cause an immune or physiological response, just as IR light, or sound can. Even colours or essential oils have this property, as does acupuncture or meditation or the laying on of hands. But the bottom line is that the internal landscape needs adjustment for lasting results and may be sufficient in and of itself. Regards Ivan -Original Message- From: AVRA / Jason [mailto:silverd...@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, 8 April 2002 5:43 p.m. To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCancer: cause and cure Kevin: I agree with your thinking. When one central cause for something is usually found, then one central cure usually suffices; vitamic C always cures Scurvy. That is why my primary and fundamental method of treatment is based in natural medicine. Oxygen treatments don't always work, that is for certain. You move the body toward a state of improved health, while addressing identifiable and treatable conditions directly. I believe the oxygen issue is a symptom of a cause, not a cause. I believe the PH issue can be both a symtpom and a cause. I believe the DNA issue can be a symptom and a cause. Solvents and other chemicals in the body can be a cause. Radiation can be a cause. Deficiencies can be a cause. Electromagnetic pollution can be a cause. In all of my experience with cancers, the one central theme I have noticed is that all cancer has been demonstrated ( to me ) to be an immune system deficiency. I've heard it said that cancer can be an immune system over-response, but this is not my experience. Dr. Robert O. Beck's research makes the most sense to me, as his observations fit soundly with all the symptoms and causes of cancer that I am aware of. The central problem is cell differentiation, the causes are multitudinous. If it is a DNA problem, then the cancer will have to be destroyed, or the DNA repair mechanisms corrected. If the DNA is shortened, how are any of these so-called cancer cures going to affect an absolute change, without eliminating the cells? The answer is that they aren't. The individual is going to die, despite internet websites touting six hundred thousand cancer cures. There are very few researchers capable of direct DNA repair. What about modified DNA? Oxygen therapy isn't going to correct this, neither is a proper PH balance. The cancer is going to create the conditions that promotes its own survival, and it is VERY capable of
Re: CSCancer: cause and cure
Jonathan B Britten wrote: All the same, I have gotten so much useful info. and so many good links that I think Quackwatch deserves at least grudging respect as a source of information, along with the disinformation. Formats such as this one can help us to distinguish between the two. Quite so, sir. Without firsthand knowledge the only way to ascertain truth on this kind of issue is to listen to all sides and hopefully enough good info will come forth to provide something approximating a self-evident resolution. Doesn't pay to label anyone entirely right or wrong. Kevin Nolan - Original Message - From: Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 11:55 AM Subject: Re: CSCancer: cause and cure List, I find some useful info. and links on Quackwatch, but the flaws and biases are just grotesque. Among other outrages, you can find a listing of Omura's brilliant, patented Bi-Digital O-Ring Test as an unnatural method, and a wholesale dismissal of the German-made EAV-type diagnotstic machines and methodology. A review of one such machine is illustrative: the reviewer had no operating manual and had no idea of how the machine was supposed to be used; the reviewer mistakenly believed that a glass vial -- containing nothing -- was supposed to cause a deflection in the ohm-meter on the machine, and suggested the failure of an empty glass vial to do so indicated the falseness of the entire concept. This is just awful. An essentialpart of EAV diagnosis is based on molecular (or sub-molecular) resonance. No one has ever claimed that an empty glass vial would produce changes in an EAV or Vegatest reading. I know only a very little about this field, but I can certainly recognize grotesque bias and unfairness when I see it. Quackwatch certainly demonstrated a very wrongheaded, misleading, and inaccurate approach to EAV. Read Barret's final words in this section of the website to understand his prejudice: he says that anyone who uses such methods is either deluded or incompetent or criminal, and urges readers to report anyone who uses such devices to him and to other agencies that can carry out criminal prosecution. Barrett seems to want to be expert, judge, prosecutor, and jury all at the same time.I was really disturbed by this bullying and antagnoistic approach. All the same, I have gotten so much useful info. and so many good links that I think Quackwatch deserves at least grudging respect as a source of information, along with the disinformation. Formats such as this one can help us to distinguish between the two. JBB -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSvolltage ?
nwilson wrote: Can ac adapters be connected in series on dc secondary to increase dc voltage with out burning out the secondary windings? Have number of them 12 volts, would like to reach the 30, 40 volt range. Don't forget that the lowly telephone outlet has 52 VDC, typically in most locations. Sometimes it will be only 50, and I have seen it as low as 48. This source supplies ample current.This methods of CS generating offers the smallest, most portable, and cheapest CS generator. Parts usually cost $ 5.00, if you buy the best alligator clips. Wayne
CSCitric Acid and CS
Has anyone read/heard/etc anything about the presence of CS and a citric based drink or food a non-no at the time of oral ingestion of CS? I read such about a year ago and since then we have been careful about ingesting CS with orange juice, vitamin C, etc since then. Thought? Insights? Kathie
RE: CSColloidal silver and a pregnant woman is safe; drugs and vaccinations are not safe
Silver nitrate has fallen into disfavor: too cheap. They now run a bead of antibiotic across the eyeball. I am not current; it used to be tetracycline. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Trem [mailto:t...@silvergen.com] Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 11:16 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: CSColloidal silver and a pregnant woman is safe; drugs and vaccinations are not safe Hi Joyce, I think you're mistaken. CS is not put in babies eyes at birth. They use silver nitrate which is a strong poison. Most drs. don't even know what CS is. Trem - Original Message - From: Joyce Inouye jinou...@ccsf.cc.ca.us To: Bernard Demoiseau berna...@turboweb.net.au Cc: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 8:51 AM Subject: Re: CSColloidal silver and a pregnant woman is safe; drugs and vaccinations are not safe Colloidal silver is safe for children and newborn babies. It is given in newborn babies' eyes at birth. Pure colloidal silver is better than the ones used in hospitals, which has another ingredient which isn't very good. It blurs the vision of the newborn and prevents bonding between the baby and mother, from what I've heard, because eye contact is important. Tell your daughter to read about safe, normal childbirth. No forceps. Forceps have done brain damage to lots of kids. Sam was braindamaged at birth by forceps. http://www.sambiser.com/ No vaccinations. Vaccinations have caused brain damage, cancer, and all sorts of violent behavior according to Rev. Hanna Kroeger, whose own daughter suffered from all of these symptoms after vaccination. An RNA virus from animals have been in vaccine and can damage the brain. Hanna Kroeger says many flower children were vaccinated, and could no longer function in school. Hanna's intelligent daughter loved school until she was vaccinated. Three days after the vaccination, diseases started and school became torturous. Thousands of children had brain damage while the news media praised the vaccine. Hanna's daughter eventually had a death experience, and saw heaven and Jesus. Jesus told her that her mission was not yet completed, so she was sent back to life. You can read the story in the book: Free Your Body of Tumors and Cysts. http://www.kroegerherb.com/kro_hanbooks_line.html \\\ =(o o)= ++--V---+++ Dear frienda, I am happy to be a member of your group because there is so much information after many years of experience about the uses of colloidal silver. My daughter-in--law has been using with success a lot colloidal silver to fight high blood pressure. Now she is 2 months pregnant and we would be grateful to know if she can eventually take colloidal silver without any risk to the child. Thank you for your help B. Demoiseau -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCancer: cause and cure
Hi Kevin; A substance that prevents the liver from producing sugar (glycol I think) so all it can produce is oils, which normal cells can live on and cancer cells can not, is Hydrazine Sulfate: http://life.uniserve.com/expl/hydrazin.htm You can also induce hypoglycemic shock through dietary mods, and then use insulin injections on top of that, to starve outright, cancer cells in only a few hours. Dr Clark's clinic and a few others were using this technique, probably they still are. This one of course requires clinical precautions and is not to be used at home. While I personally don't agree with killing cancer cells, preferring instead the vastly more elegant method of normalizing them, accumulated data indicates that even surgery to remove most of the lump(s) allows the alternative work to be more effective because it's not addressing as physically large a problem. Further note: Although many people believe in NOT increasing growth hormone when you hav cancer, most cancers are in fact not GH dependent anyway. An increase in growth hormones can REDUCE the speed at which the cancer divides by slowing the speed at which the cells age throughout the body. This is illustrated on the video on my SomaLife site, http://somateam.com/can8290.html With impressive references at the end of the movie. You'll need a copy of Real Player to see the ABC and FOX TV NEWS videos... get a FREE Real Player 8 without registering: http://www.netscape.com/plugins/get_real.html?cp=pi1 -Netscape ftp://ftp.avtlg.ru/util/RealPlayer8Basic_Std_SKU.exe -Explorer ftp://ftp.fh-furtwangen.de/win32/multimedia/player/realplayer-8.0/rp8-compl ete2-u1-setup.exe ftp://ftp.ulaval.ca/pc/audio-video/real_player/real_player_8.0_us/rp8-stand ard-setup.exe ftp://ftp.cs.bham.ac.uk/pub/groups/autotrain/win32/BrowserSoftware/RealPlay er8.exe ciao Duncan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSvolltage ?
Provided that the output is isolated from a 3rd prong of the input it should be fine. Most do not have a ground prong anyway. Marshall ronwilson wrote: Can ac adapters be connected in series on dc secondary to increase dc voltage with out burning out the secondary windings? Have number of them 12 volts, would like to reach the 30, 40 volt range.
CSMonitors and radiation
Morning Kevin, alarm bell. Could be coincidence, but ever since spending much more time than previously next to my PII machine, have been experiencing increasing neuralgic headache and vague, shifting aches and pains. Being a computer addict since day 1, I have always been interested in the ill effects of computer use. When I got my first computer Jan, 1988, I spent 70 hours per week trying to master the beast. Much later it came down to 60, then 50, and seldom under 40 hours. The case and power supply on my desk has an hour meter. I installed the hour meter and a digital temperature meter before this case was ever put on my desk. At the moment, the hour meter reads... 57,775.9 hours. The original power supply is still working. over the years, I must have installed 6 or 8 different motherboards and dozens of hard drives. I have 4 computers networked that no one uses except me. Two of them have TV tuner boards. One is used only for CD writing and my digital microscope. The other runs a control system and data acquisition system that feeds my plants, controls my heat, and logs deer movement in my back field. Not only all the above, but I build and service computers. To my knowledge, I have never had any pain or ailment that I could contribute to computer use. Often I wonder how this is possible? First, I never read all the crap that comes on the screen. When working with my programming tools, I can often hit 3 to 5 combination keystrokes so fast that the screen only blinks a few times. Having proper glasses and keeping the distance from the monitor helps also. Different monitors have better shielding that others. I use and sell only iiYama monitors. These were originally called IDEK.I use .25 dpi and keep the screen resolution set to 1152 X 864 . Anything higher makes some websites impossible to read. This resolution works best for the TV software. I use S-Video input and get excellent color and resolution. I have a descrambler and S-Video switching unit sitting on top of the full tower case on my desk. Possibly all the vitamins, minerals, CS, oxygen therapy and sunlight therapy assist my body in tolerating the abnormal and evil bombardment that I subject it too over the years. Heaven only knows, I may die tomorrow from toxic radiation. The number of hours in a year 8,736 I must have 50 to 75000 hours in front of a computer. Any ideas anyone? Wayne -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCitric Acid and CS
I believe this is the reasoning. 1. You do not want silver compounds circulating in the blood. 2. If you drink CS that is both ionic and true colloid, the ionic part will immediately combine with the hcl of the stomach and produce silver chloride, which due to it lack of solubility will precipitate out. 3. If you drink CS and citric acid at the same time the ions can form silver citrate, which is soluble, and thus will get absorbed into the blood. Thus, the accuracy of this most likely depends on whether or not silver citrate in the blood is harmful or not. Silver Citrate is light sensitive, but the amount may be too low to matter anyway. Marshall Kathie Jones wrote: Has anyone read/heard/etc anything about the presence of CS and a citric based drink or food a non-no at the time of oral ingestion of CS? I read such about a year ago and since then we have been careful about ingesting CS with orange juice, vitamin C, etc since then. Thought? Insights? Kathie
Re: CSUnidentified subject!
- Original Message - From: I Anderson i...@win.co.nz Subject: RE: CSUnidentified subject! Hi Terry, confirm in the most, what I have learned. What does seem to be missing is the recognition of the manner in which calcium becomes bio-available. Most diseased states benefit from an increase in serum calcium levels, it is the most needed of all minerals and is involved to some extent in every bodily process, so I guess it is surprising that it is one of the hardest to absorb by modern man. The requirements for the absorption of calcium are that it is ionised (dissolved) and that the vitamin D receptors in the small intestinal wall are populated with vitamin D. In these times of little sun exposure, and sun blocks, one needs to supplement with vitamin D if one wishes to absorb 20 times more calcium than one would otherwise. To my mind it doesn't much matter which type of calcium one takes, if one remembers that calcium will form insoluble compounds with phosphorous, and it is advantageous to take malic acid in the form of apple juice which will keep the calcium ionised long enough for good absorption. The idea that two different types of calcium will react together to supply useable energy I find suspect, especially considering that this will take place in the stomach. Up to this point, I agree completely: The ONLY variable I found which consistently affects calcium absorption is cellular metabolism. This primary life - force process has a direct relation to the cellular magnetic charge, which must be negative. This is, BTW, an alkaline state of the cytoplasm. Any other state of charge disrupts cellular metabolism. When this happens, calcium absorption is not the only thing that goes wrong. The easiest, most consistent way I found to help the body recharge itself is through day - time charging of the sternum point with a powerful negative pole of a permanent magnet. If the body has a significant load of parasites, Zapping may help. I get magnets from www.magnetizer.com (they also have a very educational book), and I get zappers from www.worldwithoutparasites.org which I found to be the best there are, for several reasons. Ronen. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCancer: cause and cure
Hi Carl; I think that allowing a client to choose his favourite cancer therapy would be a serious mistake. Perhaps if he had all the options he could make an *informed* decision on the appropriateness of a specific therapy. Choosing one therapy over another does not take into account that several therapies may be used simultaneously without interfering with each other, and the outcome be quicker and more successful for it. The Gerson therapy for example will help a person detox - OK, and so will ozone. Neither will interfere with the other. Many people are chronocally hypo-oxygenated, and the ozone can correct cancer a lot faster by re-enabling the DNA repair, than just good breathing and diet change. Also a secondary contributor to low pH like infection notably candida will not be thwarted that quickly with diet change, but with ozone, grapefruit seed extract etc, sure. And low pH will retard a successful therapy. I have the video here from Charlotte Gerson's presentation to the Cancer Control Society last year. In another presentation, Dr. Donsbach for example outlines his program, which includes many therapies, not just a couple. He produces results in 52% of TERMINAL cases. Compare that to the .5% we get in hospitals. I'm not arguing about which cancer therapy is better, just that allowing a client to choose a therapy may leave too much out for it to be effective. An informed decision properly selected from the best information we have should be the rule. ciao Duncan Even though I am no scientist, I thought I would put my 2 cents in. I have never had cancer. Hope I never do. But if I ever do contract cancer, I know that the only treatment I would follow would be the Gerson therapy. It is basically a juice diet with vitamin/mineral supplements, and coffee enemas. It is the pre-cursor to the Kelley and Gonzalez therapies. .. And he could use this diet to correct not only cancer, but a lot of other diseases, because this diet would clean the body of the toxins in the body. It would normalize the body chemistry. I think it was claimed that he cured 75-80% of cancer patients that the AMA type doctors had failed to cure. But his practice is carried on by his daughter, Charolette Gerson, down in Mexico. For anyone who is interested, her website is http://www.gerson.org/ Anyway, what I am leading up to is that in my opinon, the only thing that can heal the body is the body itself. If you put the right nutrients into the body ( that is the food that the body is biologically adapted to -- for man, fruits and vegetables), and stop putting in the other poisons, the body will heal itself. Even of cancer --if it is not too far advanced. And the fastest way to put in fruits and vegetables into the body is thrugh juicing. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: CS: Everything you EVER wanted to know CS
I found this below. I know as a newbie to the use of CS it answers many questions I have/had. I hope it will help others. Starts below my signature line. There is also a synopsis on how they make their CS using 10,000volts experts may want to read this. Over -n- Out Wayne The moral development of a nation can be judged by the way that they treat their animals - Mahatma Gandi COLLOIDAL SILVER Colloidal Silver is a near perfect antibiotic. Just about every known pathogenic germ, bacteria, virus or fungus, will die within six minutes of contact with colloidal silver. In addition, there are no known bad side effects from using colloidal silver. Silver can be used topically or internally. For burns or sores that may be infected, use a bandage to keep a cotton ball soaked in colloidal silver on the wound. That approach will also help with warts. Women suffering with a vaginal yeast infection can use 1 Tablespoon of colloidal silver mixed in with 8 oz. of water as a douche solution for almost immediate results. For infectious diseases, colloidal silver can be taken internally either straight or mixed with liquid or other preference. If you are dealing with an existing infectious condition, you may want to take 1 tablespoon of colloidal silver three times a day. AS the condition improves you can reduce dosage to two tablespoons a day and then reduce to once a day. For general protection form colds, flu and other infectious diseases, a daily dose of one tablespoon is recommended. Only increase dosage if a condition develops in spite of the normal daily dosage. Call if you have any question or want to discuss treatment of some particular situation. How Our Colloidal Silver is Made The Physics of it. We make colloidal silver in half-gallon batches using a 10,000-volt A/C transformer. A bar of 99.99% pure silver is suspended from one electrode into steam distilled water. A small piece of 99.99% pure silver wire is suspended form the other electrode just above the water. The process is very similar to that used to electroplate a precious metal onto an object except that the absence of a receiving object at another electrode causes the silver to remain in a colloidal suspension in the water. On one cycle, high voltage electricity flows through the bar and tiny particles of pure silver are separated from the bar and attempt to make their way to the other electrode. Since the wire is suspended above the water the silver cannot make its' way to the electrode and remains in a colloidal suspension in the water. On the other cycle, electricity flows through the wire suspended above the water and a blue arc of electricity is created between the wire and the water. This is a null cycle and no silver is added to the water. The extreme heat of the arc slowly vaporizes the silver from the tip of the wire and eventually the wire needs to be replaced. The Rediscovery of a Super Antibiotic Research has shown that colloidal silver is a powerful, natural antibiotic and preventative against infections. Acting as a catalyst, colloidal silver has been shown to disable the enzyme that single celled bacteria, viruses and fungi need to metabolize oxygen. They suffocate without corresponding harm occurring to human enzymes or parts of the human body chemistry. The result is the destruction of disease causing organisms in the body and in food. Colloidal silver was in common use until 1938 when the medical profession turned its' attention to pharmaceutical drugs. Early Research At the turn of the century, scientists had discovered that the body's most important fluids are colloidal in nature: suspended ultra-fine particles. Blood, for example, carries nutrition and oxygen to the body cells. This led to studies with colloidal silver. Prior to 1938, colloidal silver was used by physicians as a mainstream antibiotic treatment and was considered quite high-tech. Production methods, however, were costly. Then the pharmaceutical industry moved in, causing colloidal research to be set aside in favor of fast working, more toxic and potentially dangerous drugs. Contemporary Studies While studying regeneration of limbs, spinal cords and organs in the late 1970s, Robert O. Becker, MD., author of The Body Electric, discovered that silver ions promote bone growth and kill surrounding bacteria. The march 1978 issue of Science Digest, in an article, Our Mightiest Germ Fighter, reported: Thanks to eye-opening research, silver is emerging as a wonder of modern medicine. An antibiotic kills perhaps a half-dozen different disease organisms, but silver kills some 650. Resistant strains fail to develop. Moreover, silver is virtually non-toxic. The article ended with a quote by Dr. Harry Margraf, a biochemist and pioneering silver researcher who worked with the late Carl Moyer, M.D., chairman of Washington University's Department of Surgery in the 1970s: Silver is the
Re: CSCan CS help emphysema?
I have emphysema and here is an email I saved for times like this. I use a homemade nebulizer occasionally and also use 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide...about 4 drops per day and that is subject to change. I hope this might help. Dick T. Hi, I hope this letter is received in the spirit in which it is meant. I want to tell you a bit about my husband's experience with colloidal silver. First, let me say that I am an R.N. and have been working closely with our internist in my husband's treatment. And I would like to add that I sell no health products whatsoever. My husband has had emphysema with bronchiectasis for a number of years. He began to go downhill badly in Jan. of 2000. He developed pneumonia which was resistant to treatment. He was hospitalized for the pneumonia, but failed to recover completely from it. By May, he was much worse. He was on oxygen continuously and was very weak. By June, 2000, I was convinced he was dying. The simple act of brushing his teeth was exhausting, and he was unable to get up from a chair without help. I had to use a wheelchair just to take him to the doctor's office. Further, he was completely withdrawn. We had spent over $2000. on antibiotics to no avail. After short-lived improvement of a few days, he would relapse again. He was virtually drowning---coughing up copious greenish-brown secretions. Every breath was a gasp. I could hear the fluid moving in his lungs from across the room. He had lost twenty pounds and was beginning to go into heart failure. He had grossly swollen feet and was retaining a lot of fluid. He had lost twenty pounds, which he could ill afford. During this time he was under the care of our internist as well as a lung specialist in another city. He was on all of the standard emphysema medications. Finally, a friend, another RN, told me about colloidal silver. I was extremely skeptical. However, what did we have to lose? I researched it on the internet and bought several booklets about it. Then I spoke to our doctor about it. I gave her the materials I had found and we talked. The only side-effect that the literature turned up was an extremely rare cosmetic skin condition called argeria in which the skin can turn permanently bluish or gray. As far as I can tell, argeria has occurred in no more than thirty persons world wide, and is most probably caused not by colloidal silver, but rather by silver salts and compounds such as silver nitrate. Finally, our doctor said, Go for it. I have always felt that if the concommitant infection that is part and parcel of emphysema could be controlled that it would be 90% of the battle. But the antibiotics had failed. He had mixed infection and while one broad spectrum would attack one major invader, the other bacteria took advantage of the attack and proliferated. He began to drink 3 ounces/day of colloidal silver...which I generated at home...on June 2, 2000. He also used the CS in his nebulizer which is the only way to deliver the silver directly to the site. When lungs are full of infected fluid, the oral route into the bloodstream is not sufficient to penetrate this large focus of infection. He also began taking MSM (methylsulfonilmethane) and Coenzyme Q 10. We also instituted a passive-aerobic exercise plan, using a machine called the Swing Master. Silver was used for its antibacterial effects by medical science in the 30s and early 40s, but was largely abandoned due to the discovery of antibiotics. As you are probably aware, bacteria are becoming more and more resistant to antibiotics and are rapidly failing in effectiveness. Colloidal silver, per se, was not used in the 30s and 40s because the technique of electrically generating the liquid was not known at that time. Instead, silver was 'shaved' and suspended in various liquids. The treatment was quite expensive...about $200/treatment, and so it was understandably abandoned in favor of the new penicillin...and all the other antibiotics since. Colloidal silver has not only an antibacterial effect, but is also effective against many virus and fungus infections. To date there is no known resistance by these organisms to it. This is because of the way CS works. Instead of attacking the organism directly, colloidal silver incapacitates an enzyme required by one-celled pathogens while the cell is dividing. CS prevents cellular respiration in the organism, in effect smothering the pathogen at a critical state in its proliferation. So why haven't we heard about this, you might ask, if it is so effective? For the simple reason that antibiotics are a multi-billion dollar business for pharmaceutical companies. Silver colloid cannot be patented. There is not only no money in it for the pharmaceutical companies, but it represents a huge threat to their income if it becomes widely known how effective it is. Within three weeks of beginning the silver,
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Re: CSCS ointment
Hi George, If you have the container look at the ingredient list the first ingredient is the most abundant in recipe the second next and so on. I would just experiment till you get the right consistancy. I make my salves and ointments using this approach. Marlene From: Carl George cgeo...@fullnet.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSCS ointment Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 22:30:06 -0500 Hi, Listers, I promise, this will be my last post of the day. Does anyone have a recipe for making CS ointment (or salve). I bought some ($15.50) made by Silver Wings. Ingredients were organic, cold pressed aloe vera jelly; colloidal silver, and tea tree oil. It works really well on burns, itches, etc. But it is pricey, and if I could make it, I would much rather make it than buy it. But how much CS should I put with aloe vera jelly, tea tree oil, etc. I would appreciate any information. Thanking you in advance. Carl George _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: CS: Everything you EVER wanted to know CS
Wayne writes/quotes: ...We make colloidal silver... Who is we? jr -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: CS: Everything you EVER wanted to know CS
Wayne writes/quotes: ...We make colloidal silver... Who is we? Here is the web page that I found the information at. I know sometimes on lists it is hard to help people without getting all the facts for everyone to be satisfied. But anyway here is the site link. http://www.healthfree.com Over -n- Out Wayne The moral development of a nation can be judged by the way that they treat their animals - Mahatma Gandi www.mindspring.com/~apple12 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V102 #253
And who might 'They' be? Byron But anyway here is the site link. http://www.healthfree.com
CSRe: silver-digest Digest V102 #253
At 03:17 PM 4/8/02 -0700, you wrote: There is also a synopsis on how they make their CS using 10,000volts experts may want to read this. Over -n- Out Wayne And who might 'They' be? Byron
Re: CSPriorities (coconut oil)
I use coconut cream everyday in my cereal. Is this the same as coconut oil, in that it helps balance cholesterol, etc? More than likely it's sweetened and probably commercially processed from copra (www.coconut-info.com) It loses its benefits this way. Catherine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CScs and abcess
Bobbye, Since your situation is different from mine, you may not get the same results. But if you do put the cs in the ear and leave it there for 15 minutes in each ear, you MAY get relief from tooth and gum problems. Then again you may not. I get wonderful relief from swollen root areas by putting the cs in the ears. I was completely surprised when this turned out to be the case. Best wishes, pj __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSColloid vs. ionic TASTE
Does anyone know how particulate size affects the ability to *taste* CS? Frank? Tx. --Russ -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCancer: cause and cure
I would just add that non-protocol medicine, and example of which is Y. Omura's Bi-Digital O-Ring Test, offer the only means I know of to determine which therapies, nutritional regimins, and drugs, are most likely to work for a particular patient. Seems to me that non-protocal medicine is the wave of the future. JBB Duncan Crow wrote: Hi Carl; I think that allowing a client to choose his favourite cancer therapy would be a serious mistake. Perhaps if he had all the options he could make an *informed* decision on the appropriateness of a specific therapy. Choosing one therapy over another does not take into account that several therapies may be used simultaneously without interfering with each other, and the outcome be quicker and more successful for it. The Gerson therapy for example will help a person detox - OK, and so will ozone. Neither will interfere with the other. Many people are chronocally hypo-oxygenated, and the ozone can correct cancer a lot faster by re-enabling the DNA repair, than just good breathing and diet change. Also a secondary contributor to low pH like infection notably candida will not be thwarted that quickly with diet change, but with ozone, grapefruit seed extract etc, sure. And low pH will retard a successful therapy. I have the video here from Charlotte Gerson's presentation to the Cancer Control Society last year. In another presentation, Dr. Donsbach for example outlines his program, which includes many therapies, not just a couple. He produces results in 52% of TERMINAL cases. Compare that to the .5% we get in hospitals. I'm not arguing about which cancer therapy is better, just that allowing a client to choose a therapy may leave too much out for it to be effective. An informed decision properly selected from the best information we have should be the rule. ciao Duncan Even though I am no scientist, I thought I would put my 2 cents in. I have never had cancer. Hope I never do. But if I ever do contract cancer, I know that the only treatment I would follow would be the Gerson therapy. It is basically a juice diet with vitamin/mineral supplements, and coffee enemas. It is the pre-cursor to the Kelley and Gonzalez therapies. .. And he could use this diet to correct not only cancer, but a lot of other diseases, because this diet would clean the body of the toxins in the body. It would normalize the body chemistry. I think it was claimed that he cured 75-80% of cancer patients that the AMA type doctors had failed to cure. But his practice is carried on by his daughter, Charolette Gerson, down in Mexico. For anyone who is interested, her website is http://www.gerson.org/ Anyway, what I am leading up to is that in my opinon, the only thing that can heal the body is the body itself. If you put the right nutrients into the body ( that is the food that the body is biologically adapted to -- for man, fruits and vegetables), and stop putting in the other poisons, the body will heal itself. Even of cancer --if it is not too far advanced. And the fastest way to put in fruits and vegetables into the body is thrugh juicing. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSCancer: cause and cure
Jason, fess up that was only 27 cents worth! We need another nickle's worth to make 42 cents of this! Namaste: We love ya, fella! Hang in there. Bob Bartell -Original Message- From: AVRA / Jason [mailto:silverd...@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 1:43 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCancer: cause and cure Kevin: I agree with your thinking. When one central cause for something is usually found, then one central cure usually suffices; vitamic C always cures Scurvy. That is why my primary and fundamental method of treatment is based in natural medicine. Oxygen treatments don't always work, that is for certain. You move the body toward a state of improved health, while addressing identifiable and treatable conditions directly. I believe the oxygen issue is a symptom of a cause, not a cause. I believe the PH issue can be both a symtpom and a cause. I believe the DNA issue can be a symptom and a cause. Solvents and other chemicals in the body can be a cause. Radiation can be a cause. Deficiencies can be a cause. Electromagnetic pollution can be a cause. In all of my experience with cancers, the one central theme I have noticed is that all cancer has been demonstrated ( to me ) to be an immune system deficiency. I've heard it said that cancer can be an immune system over-response, but this is not my experience. Dr. Robert O. Beck's research makes the most sense to me, as his observations fit soundly with all the symptoms and causes of cancer that I am aware of. The central problem is cell differentiation, the causes are multitudinous. If it is a DNA problem, then the cancer will have to be destroyed, or the DNA repair mechanisms corrected. If the DNA is shortened, how are any of these so-called cancer cures going to affect an absolute change, without eliminating the cells? The answer is that they aren't. The individual is going to die, despite internet websites touting six hundred thousand cancer cures. There are very few researchers capable of direct DNA repair. What about modified DNA? Oxygen therapy isn't going to correct this, neither is a proper PH balance. The cancer is going to create the conditions that promotes its own survival, and it is VERY capable of doing so, as it is a primitive cell structure. The body is not going to recognize the cancer as an invasive agent. The dead person won't be able to tell the world of all the failed alt cancer cures tried, and the families are usually to embarrased to speak out. The ongoing DNA repair work, on many levels, shows extreme promise. The methods are through scalar wave technology and other multi-dimensional energy approaches. I'm involved in some aspects of this type of research, which is still years away from true practical application. Sonic waveforms show great promise. The problem is that the technology that can accurately measure subtle forms of energy is just now becoming readily available. The technology allowing complete measurement of DNA sequencing has also been slow to surface. The problem here is that weapons applications has kept much of this technology non-commercial. Since it costs hundreds of thousands of dollars just to obtain the basic equipment needed, independent research has been very slow due to a complete lack of funding outside of defense applications. Those involved in such research applications ( myself included ) cannot share too much along these lines, because the hundreds of thousands of dollars in measurement equipment rapidly translates to millions of dollars in applications equipment... If the primary interests are not protected, then there would be no research at all. True, repeatable medical applications are still quite a ways off, at any rate. But it really is something to keep an eye out for in the future. If the cancer cause is through something like heavy metal poisoning, the body must be stimulated to be able to cleanse itself. That is the ACTION that needs to be taken, and I'm sure that many of the suggested treatments accomplish this. If one has severe organ deficiencies, without correcting this, the therapies will also be largely innefective. Some may be dangerous. Chelating the metals out can sometimes cause more damage, as they can simply dump the heavy metals back into the active metabolism. Liver and kidney function must be supported at all costs. If the cause of the cancer is some sort of electromagnetic pollution, this really needs to be identified. Watch out for the Pentium II and perhaps some III intel chipsets. I recently had to work with one for almost a year; they are absolutely terrible. It may be only a coincidence, but my own skin cancer was on the side and exactly parallel to the mainboard. Having now gotten away from that computer, I will now no longer work at a a facility that uses them ( I build my own systems and am a strong AMD supporter, although there is no problem with with the newer Intel chipsets/processors ).
CSAir problems
Does anyone have problems breathing the air around their computer? I have a terrible time when I am at my computer. It feels like the air is thick with smoke my sinuses plug up, nose and mouth dry out, throat gets sore and a tickle starts in my lungs. The effects stay with me long after I¹ve left my computer and can last for days (although I¹m at my computer every day) but sometimes I don¹t experience any problem with the air and other times I do. Don¹t know what it is and no one else seems to notice any problem with the air. I have a Mac now but had the same problem with my PC. Would sure like to find out what it is. I know it¹s not directly CS related but if I can find out what the cause is, maybe I can apply CS in a way that will intervene.
CSFood-Grade H2O3 -- BIG difference!
I have added a little food-grade hydrogen peroxide to CS many times before. This evening, I wanted to a use 3% peroxide bottle to hold a quart of CS, so I transferred the HP to another jug, and poured the CS into the bottle without cleaning/drying it out. THE CS INSTANTLY TURNED GREY-ORANGE. I surmise that the silver reacted with certain *stabilizers* in the miniscule amount of residual HP. Agreed? Some HP labels say 'HP 3%, deionized water 97%,' while others--as on this bottle--say '*inert ingredients* 97%.' --Russ -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CScs and abcess
Is the abscess associated with an upper or lower tooth? I'd think CS could control it only by ionic diffusion through the tissues membranes; thus, *proximity* to the afflicted area would surely be key. I see no reason why the ears represent a better route to the interior of an abscess, esp. in the jaw. Therefore, I'd hold CS in the mouth as long as possible to conduce diffusion, then swallow it for immune support against the general systemic insult...and I'd do it continually. Bobbye, you asked about dental electrification... If the dental infection is decidedly abcessed, conductive current between two electrodes would probably bypass it, leaving the interior germs untouched. Should CS fail, this situation is a perfect candidate for ELECTROMAGNETIC PULSING. (My otherwise intractable abscess responded to it.) That said, it is most likely that the infection is not fully sequestered/encysted, in which case A FAULTLESS PROCEDURE IS to contact the associated tooth with one electrode, and the nearest lymph node area with the other. The intra-mouth electrode should be silver with a small, saline-moistened sponge. If straight DC is used, the positive/+ electrode should be in the mouth. --Russ -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
