Re: CSUltrasonic nebulizer
I got it on ebay from a medical supplier who said he had one left over from a buy-one-get-one-free sale. I got it for around $45. Richard P.S. the source of the crud in my lungs was about a 10 sq. ft. section of black mold growing on the floor of a condemned house. Be very careful if you ever come in contact with mold. Very powerful stuff for such a little creature. - Original Message - From: Jack Dayton Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 11:26 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSUltrasonic nebulizer Hi Rich, that is welcome news. What was the source? Jack From: Richard Sobe im_numbe...@msn.com I just received my ultrasonic nebulizer today and it works much better than the used compressor type I had and is completely quiet. It goes through 5ml of CS very quickly (4-5 min) although it leaves about 1/2 ml inside the med cup. I am extremely pleased with it. Hopefully it will get rid of this crud living in my lungs finally. I'll keep in touch with the results. Richard Sobe
Re: CSSource for recipes?
The Wal Mart Distilled Water I get is abt .58 cents a gal. It is from Janus Ind. at Cove, Union Co. Oregon. On some Bottles it said it came form the artesian Springs in th area. They used to come from all over the world in the early 1900's ath and drink this water for healing . The last bottles I got has a diffeerent label with that omitted. The first jugs had blue lids and new ones have white. I have bben by the place past La Grande ore on I 84 a number of times. Cove, i also have been to. It is a small town off the hy. and off the Old Oregon Trail of 1800's to the west. i have even eaten some of the plums from the trees the newcomers planted along the trail still there so as to have shade and fruit if they went by in the time period. Did someone say this steam distilled water wasn't good enough for CS Maxine Wilton. -Original Message- From: John Reeder jree...@sbcglobal.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 4:53 PM Subject: RE: CSSource for recipes? I use WalMart DW and find that it is about 0.5-0.9 ppm. That is why I was wondering about the 'steam-distilled' bit. John -Original Message- From: Jack Dayton [mailto:jack...@harbornet.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 4:39 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSSource for recipes? Hi John, WalMart's DW has been discussed within the last few weeks, but I'm not sure what was said, but I think the answer is no. Jack From: John Reeder jree...@sbcglobal.net BTW, is WalMart DW steam-distilled?
Re: CSSource for recipes?
Just a mention of my appreciation for the helpful comments of list members taking the time to address my question as to the best water treatment method for the CS solution, particularly as regards reverse-osmosis filtered water. As per your recommendation I shall limit the water used to steam distilled water only. If anyone would car to comment on the remaining questions, I would be most grateful. If you find it more convenient to do so, please just enter your comments into my text below: a.. Would the most basic generator plans you mention be one that you would personally be satisfied with, or is there a better choice in one-quart capacity home-made generator plan that you might recommend as a better choice in quality output or convenience and features? b.. Would one that uses a small transformer, introduces air bubbles, or incorporates a timing relay or some other features that you may know of prove more satisfying or perhaps produce a superior quality CS more effectively? c.. Do you recommend any other testing devices for quality control, or are these really an unnecessary expense for my limited production when produced within the more customary given parameters? d.. I would appreciate your recommendation for the name of the supplier that you spoke of for the .999 silver wire. Thank you, Chris - Original Message - From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 6:03 AM Subject: Re: CSSource for recipes? To put the distilled water issue in perspective: Early on people advocated using a pinch of salt or a few drops of brine solution to their DW as a starter to speed the production of CS. Plenty of folks, including me, used this and saw positive results with no known cases of harm. The drawbacks are the likelihood of making silver chloride in small quantities, which is not likely a serious problem due to it's relatively low toxicity and solubility, *and* that the particles tended to be larger due to the high current that resulted. Distilled water is said to make smaller particles, but it takes longer and forces you to deal with some plating out of fluff on the negative electrode, either by periodic wiping or some form of stirring and/or polarity switching. You don't, however, make other compounds with this process, unlike when using salt. Now, if you think of using tap water, stream water, water from the rain barrel, reverse osmosis water, or a pinch of sea salt... Whatever dissolved salts and other impurities you introduce to your process are available to make compounds of God knows what. It could be miniscule amounts, but how much is too much? Another thing to keep in mind is that the reaction would go very fast, being done within a few minutes, using anything other than DW. Run too long and you'll have mud. For topical, household, or animal use, just about anything could work. But for human consumption, DW is the safe bet. In an emergency or survival situation, I'd risk using whatever water I had rather than let somebody die of an infection, for instance, but I'd get back to distilled as soon as possible. Hope that helps. Be well, Mike D. RO water 'can' work sorta OK but it's really chancy and far from consistant. Stick with the DW. Perhaps you or another list member might comment on whether I might consider my reverse-osmosis water system (new and well-maintained) as an equally viable alternative to using distilled water for making CS? * Not only NO, but hell no! * If there is a Walgreens in your area, buy their DW [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSource for recipes?
And you'd probably never notice your cat was blue either unless you shaved your cat or it got too close to the burner on the kitchen stove. :) -Original Message- From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 4:21 PM Subject: RE: CSSource for recipes? Reasonable enough. I guess I was thinking mostly about argyria. If my cat turned blue I'd still love her the same and she'd probably never notice. grin -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSUsing the lists well...
It won't come with jackboots and book burnings, mass rallies and fevered harangues.It won't come with black helicopters or tanks on the street. It won'tcome like a storm-- but like a break in the weather, that sudden change of season you might feel when the windshifts on an October evening: Everything is the same, but everything has changed. Something has gone,departed from the world, and a new reality has taken its place... Methinks PC will dictate even more changes. Demagogue: One who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots. ~ H.L. Mencken - Original Message - From: Gladys Williams gw...@juno.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 8:27 PM Subject: Re: CSUsing the lists well... | | What a great pointI stand corrected... | People of Color is widely accepted when | referring to any non-caucasion person or | group--(but again we are suggesting that | causians are uncolored) | | I think we should call caucasians Pinkies-- | Ha Ha just kidding folks. You see I have a | sense of humor. On the serious side Black, | African American or People of Color is | perfectly acceptable to me. | | | Gladys | | -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSUsing the lists well...
...Something has gone,departed from the world, and a new reality has taken its place... Methinks PC will dictate even more changes. Hey Jhon, I view it, in this context anyway, as acknowledging the idiological framework in which we exist. If, in this particular case, PC amounts to simple courtesy, then it is useful. It's a question of knowing the rules before choosing if and when to break them. Hopefully people realize that I want coexistence and cooperation. That's going to mean that they are going to have to live with the weaknesses of others, within reason, and not expect everyone around them to change for their comfort. But it also means not to expect other people to put up with bad manners. Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSWeb site for the Silver List...
Wowie! Thank you Tony! I'll work this in to an upcoming set of updates for the site. Mike D. http://www.silverlist.org Hi Mike, Here are steps to take to filter mail for Netscape 4.7 users. Example: to automatically send all incoming email with CS in the subject line to a Mailbox called Silver List. 1 Create the Silver List mailbox in Local Mail. 1.1 In Netscape Messenger, Click on Local Mail in the left hand menu. 1.2 Right click and click on New Folder. 1.3 Type Silver List in the Name window. click OK 2 Instruct incoming email with CS in the subject line to a Mailbox called Silver List. 2.1 Click Edit in the upper menu and then click Message Filters. 2.2 Click New. 2.3 In the Filter Rule window, change the Filter name to SL, for instance. Its your choice. 2.3 Type CS in the blank window. 2.4 Scroll down the Move To folder to the Silver List entry. Click OK That is it. You can make several filters to make your life easier. To edit a filter go Edit/Message Filter/ select the filter to be edited and click Edit. Make the changes in the Filter Rules panel and click OK. Tony M. G. Devour wrote: I'd like some help from you, folks! Test-drive the thing, please, and let me know of any inadequacies or flaws you come by. The temporary URL is: http://www.eskimo.com/~mdevour/silver-list There are a couple of holes in the Mailing List FAQ section. Particularly, I need instructions for creating mail filtering or sorting rules for AOL and Netscape users. If any of you'd like to help me along there, I'd appreciate it. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: silver-digest Digest V102 #444
I would like to make CS. I have never done so..have no idea how to go about it. Any suggestions for an absolute newcomer? Thanks, Florence
Re: CScolloidal color
On that note [speaking of snowflakes] I once tried using a small amount of H2O2 as a 'starter' to get the initial conductivity of DW up. [one teapoon of off the shelf 3% peroxide to 46 oz of water] The result was the unending formation of brilliant silver snowflakes similar to what you'd find in a paperweight or in metalflake paint. The conductivity of the water never exceeded 14us even after many many hours. For this and other reasons, I suspect that oxygen plays a role in the formation of silver crystals altering their shape along with their size and that the reflective or light scattering properties [color] may be related to the simultanious relationship of not only size, but the corresponding shape of a lattice structure which can be broken down with H2O2. Silver is silver in color, oxygen has no color, yet silver oxides are black. Could there be an incomplete oxide?..not so much a 'compound' but more like an alloy? H2O2 will blast a silver oxide apart..the black on an electrode vanishes very quickly. Could it not also be blasting an alloy apart?I might be crazy, but I see a relationship between color, particle [crystal vs flake] size and oxygen. The crystal shape of pure silver is 'face centered cubic'. Could the addition of one or two atoms of oxygen while the crystal is forming ..not as an compound so much as an alloy?] change that shape with a corresponding relationship to size and refractive properties? Could a free O1 atom [from the H2O2] tend to scavange the oxygen atom from such a hypothetical alloy forming the more stable O2? It has been my experience that the addition of a small amount of H2O2 to a yellow batch will clear the color from the batch [sometimes to a very faint metallic blue tinge if the CS was initially a faint or pale yellow..at over 25PPM] I added 8 drops of H2O2 to the 26+ PPM 750ml half batch placed near the kitchen window which went deep yellow overnight [the other half stored away from cold temperatures is still colorless and crystal clear in diffused light] and the color cleared up in about 5 days but it is incredibly murky like smoke in a bottle with a massive TE. Nothing has settled out. In fact, it looks more like an emulsion than a suspension with a thickness or viscosity like quality to it that's different than water. The PPM as measured with a Dist 1 dropped from 17 to 6. I have found that fresh heavily ozonated water will sometimes tend to make an initially yellow CS [that is, yellow now, not turning yellow later..though it may or may not turn 'more' yellow later on] whereas the same water after having been 'vented' for several days does not [left loosely capped while bubbles form on the sides of the DW jug] ...all other factors being as identical as possible. Using a high current to electrode surface area ratio makes yellow CS. Could it be that oxygen production from the electrode is faster than the oxidation rate of that electrode and excess oxygen is 'alloying' with the silver crystals as they form from ions? Stirring increases the amount of current that can be used and still not make yellow CS. Does stirring not only hydrate and isolate ion clusters from each other, but also, in effect, increase electrode surface area by disrupting a reactive boundary layer? ..and what is there for the silver to react with, but oxygen? I also find it interesting that crystal clear [colorless but strong] CS appears blackish when placed in a milk jug type DW water container while DW in the same type jug right next to it has no tint to it at all. [as viewed through the container] ..and..CS that dries on a white surface will stain that surface brown. Ken At 10:55 AM 6/18/02 -0400, you wrote: I have wondered that as well. My suspicion is the particle shape. I suspect that the mezo may have dense spherical particle, and the cs that is formed by normal electrolysis methods may be more snow flake shaped. The resonances of a particle will be consistant with the bulk of the metal, which would be much larger on a spherical particle than on a snowflake, although the dimensions of the snowflake could be much larger, whereas the snowflake is made up of many small particles aggregated together, it's resonance would be more consistant with the smaller particles that make the snowflake up.. Marshall Ode Coyote wrote: I don't believe this to be entirely true. One can make a completely colorless batch of CS using LVDC that has a very bright tyndal effect seen with a laser pointer and read 10 - 16 PPM with a meter. Ions are too small to be lit up by laser light. Meters don't detect particles. Lab testing will reveal 25 to 50 PPM total silver content. I've seen slow run and stirred batches go as high as a 50% ion to particlulate ratio and still have no color. I don't know what makes Mesosilver so special so I won't dispute that, but, in LVDC home brew land, color is an indication of particle size. My brown tea went down the drain and this boy
RE: CSmosquito larvae
Probably, rather than killing the larvae, an oil slick will coat an emerging mosquito and smother it and might also coat a mosquito that lands to lay eggs. ..add some heat...French fried frog food. ken At 10:01 AM 6/18/02 -0600, you wrote: I don't know about the egg laying. I have seen larvae in ponds polluted with partial mineral oil slicks, so I think it is probable they will lay the eggs on/near oil films. The film need not be very thick to kill the larvae, and probably will not harm your cats. Don't they put corn oil in dry cat food? James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@execonn.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 9:09 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSmosquito larvae Although true, I don't want to add that to my cat's drinking water. Do the adults still try to lay their eggs if there is oil on the water. I figure that they are going to lay them somewhere, so it would be better to have something for them to lay them in, where the larvae will die. I guess one of the best ways would be to have a tub of water with some minnows in it. Marshall James Osbourne, Holmes wrote: Any cheap cooking oil on the surface will clog their breathing apparatus. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@execonn.com] Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 12:21 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSmosquito larvae Being summer with lots of areas where water accumulates where mosquito larvae can hatch, I though I would try using CS and aspertame to see if it would kill them. Last night I added a couple of ounces of 5 ppm CS to a bowl of water that had about 8 oz of water in it. It had larvae in it already. This morning I checked and the larvae were still alive. I then added a packet of Nutrasweet. 4 hours later, they are still alive. I just dumped them out to dry. Oh well, nice idea if it had worked. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSource for recipes?
All commercial DW is steam distilled, some double distilled for even greater purity. Possibly some is vacuum distilled and will likely be very good. There are, however, some unscrupulous sellers that sell reverse osmosis water and otherwise 'filtered' water labeled as distilled. [or maybe just never ever clean their distillers] One store near Chicago was selling such a lie under two different brand names in the same store. Some reports of such inferior water in Florida too. DW is usually distilled semi locally and sold under brand name license, so there may be some variations even within the same brand depending on store location along with variations between batches due to distiller maintenance frequency. Some brands enforce their high standards quite strictly and some not. Anything under 7 microsiemens conductivity will do fine. Extremely pure water can present problems too. Ken At 04:38 PM 6/18/02 -0700, you wrote: Hi John, WalMart's DW has been discussed within the last few weeks, but I'm not sure what was said, but I think the answer is no. Jack From: John Reeder jree...@sbcglobal.net BTW, is WalMart DW steam-distilled? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSSource for recipes?
If that's measured with Dist 1 PPM meter, it's OK It's impure enough to get the reaction started fairly fast and not so impure as to cause contamination problems. I actually prefer DW that reads 1 PPM over the more pure water. Extremely pure water does not pull enough current to prevent fluffy deposits from growing [which slow the reaction even further and wastes silver] and can take several hours to draw significant current which will throw any attempts at timing a batch right out the window unless an ammeter is employed to set a base reading. Ken At 04:54 PM 6/18/02 -0700, you wrote: I use WalMart DW and find that it is about 0.5-0.9 ppm. That is why I was wondering about the 'steam-distilled' bit. John -Original Message- From: Jack Dayton [mailto:jack...@harbornet.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 4:39 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Source for recipes? Hi John, WalMart's DW has been discussed within the last few weeks, but I'm not sure what was said, but I think the answer is no. Jack From: John Reeder jree...@sbcglobal.net BTW, is WalMart DW steam-distilled? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSsilver uses
Silver nitrate is a corrosive substance and will stain tissues black. Silver chloride? Ken At 08:19 PM 6/18/02 -0700, you wrote: Children wire sometimes born of a mother who had venereal disease. When left untreated the child would go blind. When the Silver Chloride was added to the eye blindness was prevented. It was a rule to treat all children. I believe I remember hearing that the treatment sometimes burned the eye tissue. Marlene Wa. - Original Message - From: Tai-Pan Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 9:57 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>silver uses Hi d.linen, Sort of indirectly, not really for blindness. Bless you, Bob Lee d.linen wrote: They used to put silver nitrate in the eyes of newborns to prevent blindness. Rich Adams wrote: > > Can ANYONE list some commercial uses of silver other then the bandages at > silverlon and other then the burn centers use it? In regards to healing > that is... > > Respectfully, > Rich Adams > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org/>http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html>http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com> -- oozing on the muggy shore of the gulf coast l...@fbtc.net
Re: CSSource for recipes?
Be careful here. drinking water and distilled water are not the same but often have very similar labels and are sold under the same brand name, side by side on the shelf. [virtually identical except for the color and both words start with D] I have actually dismantled a CS generator wondering what was wrong with it before discovering that I was using drinking water...and then after reading the label incorrectly 3 times. Duh Ken At 11:46 PM 6/18/02 -0700, you wrote: The Wal Mart Distilled Water I get is abt .58 cents a gal. It is from Janus Ind. at Cove, Union Co. Oregon. On some Bottles it said it came form the artesian Springs in th area. They used to come from all over the world in the early 1900's ath and drink this water for healing . The last bottles I got has a diffeerent label with that omitted. The first jugs had blue lids and new ones have white. I have bben by the place past La Grande ore on I 84 a number of times. Cove, i also have been to. It is a small town off the hy. and off the Old Oregon Trail of 1800's to the west. i have even eaten some of the plums from the trees the newcomers planted along the trail still there so as to have shade and fruit if they went by in the time period. Did someone say this steam distilled water wasn't good enough for CS Maxine Wilton. -Original Message- From: John Reeder mailto:jree...@sbcglobal.net>jree...@sbcglobal.net> To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com>silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com>silver-list@eskimo.com> Date: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 4:53 PM Subject: RE: CS>Source for recipes? I use WalMart DW and find that it is about 0.5-0.9 ppm. That is why I was wondering about the 'steam-distilled' bit. John -Original Message- From: Jack Dayton [mailto:jack...@harbornet.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 4:39 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Source for recipes? Hi John, WalMart's DW has been discussed within the last few weeks, but I'm not sure what was said, but I think the answer is no. Jack From: John Reeder jree...@sbcglobal.net BTW, is WalMart DW steam-distilled? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSSource for recipes?
Filters remove only particles; not dissolved substances. A very fine one typically passes anything smaller that about 1 micron. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: John Reeder [mailto:jree...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 9:38 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSSource for recipes? My tap water pegs the scale. The faucet filter that I used to trust is about 120 ppm. John -Original Message- From: S J Young [mailto:you...@konnections.net] Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 8:18 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSSource for recipes? John, Any water measuring less than 1 ppm is very good and most likely steam distilled. You will need special laboratory equipment and procedures to get significantly greater purity. The Wallmart DW must be steam distilled or it would indicate a higher ppm. As an experiment, put a few drops of your tap water into a few ounces of the DW, and you will see the ppm goes way up. --Steve - Original Message - From: John Reeder jree...@sbcglobal.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 5:54 PM Subject: RE: CSSource for recipes? Re: CSSource for recipes?I use WalMart DW and find that it is about 0.5-0.9 ppm. That is why I was wondering about the 'steam-distilled' bit. John -Original Message- From: Jack Dayton [mailto:jack...@harbornet.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 4:39 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSSource for recipes? Hi John, WalMart's DW has been discussed within the last few weeks, but I'm not sure what was said, but I think the answer is no. Jack From: John Reeder jree...@sbcglobal.net BTW, is WalMart DW steam-distilled? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSsilver uses
Do you mean silver nitrate? James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Marlene Hanson [mailto:mlehan...@msn.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 9:20 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSsilver uses Children wire sometimes born of a mother who had venereal disease. When left untreated the child would go blind. When the Silver Chloride was added to the eye blindness was prevented. It was a rule to treat all children. I believe I remember hearing that the treatment sometimes burned the eye tissue. Marlene Wa. - Original Message - From: Tai-Pan Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 9:57 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSsilver uses Hi d.linen, Sort of indirectly, not really for blindness. Bless you, Bob Lee d.linen wrote: They used to put silver nitrate in the eyes of newborns to prevent blindness. Rich Adams wrote: Can ANYONE list some commercial uses of silver other then the bandages at silverlon and other then the burn centers use it? In regards to healing that is... Respectfully, Rich Adams -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org http://silverlist.org/ To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- oozing on the muggy shore of the gulf coast l...@fbtc.net
RE: CSSource for recipes?
Hello Ken, If I remember correctly, the discussion was about using steam-distilled water for making cs and the poster stated that they used WalMart water and I asked if it was steam-distilled. Then I stated that I used WalMart brand and just realized upon reading your post that I actually use WalGreens's brand with measures 0.5-0.9 ppm with my Hanna PWT meter. I continually get mixed up with the WalMart/Walgreen names, wish one of them would change. It used to be easier to distinguish between Sears and Wards. If cs is poured into the 'DW/cs to be', doesn't that prevent the fluffy deposits. Lately, I have been having trouble getting my Colloid Master 777 to shut off after the proper cs level is reached. I don't know if it is an equipment problem or if the problem is the nut behind the wheel. Perhaps you are right and my water is too pure. Ideas? I haven't called the CM 777 people yet. John -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:coy...@alltel.net] Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 6:31 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSSource for recipes? If that's measured with Dist 1 PPM meter, it's OK It's impure enough to get the reaction started fairly fast and not so impure as to cause contamination problems. I actually prefer DW that reads 1 PPM over the more pure water. Extremely pure water does not pull enough current to prevent fluffy deposits from growing [which slow the reaction even further and wastes silver] and can take several hours to draw significant current which will throw any attempts at timing a batch right out the window unless an ammeter is employed to set a base reading. Ken At 04:54 PM 6/18/02 -0700, you wrote: I use WalMart DW and find that it is about 0.5-0.9 ppm. That is why I was wondering about the 'steam-distilled' bit. John -Original Message- From: Jack Dayton [mailto:jack...@harbornet.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 4:39 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSSource for recipes? Hi John, WalMart's DW has been discussed within the last few weeks, but I'm not sure what was said, but I think the answer is no. Jack From: John Reeder jree...@sbcglobal.net BTW, is WalMart DW steam-distilled? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CSsilver uses
Hello Ken, What do you mean by 'silver-impregnated plastic'? Silver particles imbedded in the plastic? John -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:coy...@alltel.net] Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 6:00 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSsilver uses The Japanese have come up with silver impregnated plastic for public telephones and childrens toys...specifically for the prevention of disease transmission. Ken At 04:05 PM 6/18/02 -0400, you wrote: I know that Childrens Hospital in Philadelphia uses silver in their interventional radiology dept. They have a number of tubes and catheters that have silver at the tip that remains inside the body, to reduce the risk of infection. They say it allows the tubes to stay in longer and not get infected..yet they look at me like I have 10 heads when I tell them that I flush the catheter with CS! ~:-} Christiane Can ANYONE list some commercial uses of silver other then the bandages at silverlon and other then the burn centers use it? In regards to healing that is... Respectfully, Rich Adams -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CScolloidal color
This is my best guess on this. No real research to back it up though. Fact: The silver particles have a charge, this keeps them separated so they don't aggregate. Fact: Silver is a catalyst that electrostatically attracts oxygen to it's surface. When O3 or H2O2 is added, the free monatomic oxygen quickly adheres to the surface, canceling the charge though electron donation (kind of like an ionic bond). The particle loses some or all of it's charge, and is no longer repelled by other silver particles, so they succumb to the van d wall's force and aggregate together. If that is true, then that should mean that boiling ones water to drive out dissolved oxygen may decrease particle size, or may make it a higher percentage ionic. On the other hand, it may require monatomic oxygen to cause the aggregation. Marshall Ode Coyote wrote: On that note [speaking of snowflakes] I once tried using a small amount of H2O2 as a 'starter' to get the initial conductivity of DW up. [one teapoon of off the shelf 3% peroxide to 46 oz of water] The result was the unending formation of brilliant silver snowflakes similar to what you'd find in a paperweight or in metalflake paint. The conductivity of the water never exceeded 14us even after many many hours. For this and other reasons, I suspect that oxygen plays a role in the formation of silver crystals altering their shape along with their size and that the reflective or light scattering properties [color] may be related to the simultanious relationship of not only size, but the corresponding shape of a lattice structure which can be broken down with H2O2. Silver is silver in color, oxygen has no color, yet silver oxides are black. Could there be an incomplete oxide?..not so much a 'compound' but more like an alloy? H2O2 will blast a silver oxide apart..the black on an electrode vanishes very quickly. Could it not also be blasting an alloy apart?I might be crazy, but I see a relationship between color, particle [crystal vs flake] size and oxygen. The crystal shape of pure silver is 'face centered cubic'. Could the addition of one or two atoms of oxygen while the crystal is forming ..not as an compound so much as an alloy?] change that shape with a corresponding relationship to size and refractive properties? Could a free O1 atom [from the H2O2] tend to scavange the oxygen atom from such a hypothetical alloy forming the more stable O2? It has been my experience that the addition of a small amount of H2O2 to a yellow batch will clear the color from the batch [sometimes to a very faint metallic blue tinge if the CS was initially a faint or pale yellow..at over 25PPM] I added 8 drops of H2O2 to the 26+ PPM 750ml half batch placed near the kitchen window which went deep yellow overnight [the other half stored away from cold temperatures is still colorless and crystal clear in diffused light] and the color cleared up in about 5 days but it is incredibly murky like smoke in a bottle with a massive TE. Nothing has settled out. In fact, it looks more like an emulsion than a suspension with a thickness or viscosity like quality to it that's different than water. The PPM as measured with a Dist 1 dropped from 17 to 6. I have found that fresh heavily ozonated water will sometimes tend to make an initially yellow CS [that is, yellow now, not turning yellow later..though it may or may not turn 'more' yellow later on] whereas the same water after having been 'vented' for several days does not [left loosely capped while bubbles form on the sides of the DW jug] ...all other factors being as identical as possible. Using a high current to electrode surface area ratio makes yellow CS. Could it be that oxygen production from the electrode is faster than the oxidation rate of that electrode and excess oxygen is 'alloying' with the silver crystals as they form from ions? Stirring increases the amount of current that can be used and still not make yellow CS. Does stirring not only hydrate and isolate ion clusters from each other, but also, in effect, increase electrode surface area by disrupting a reactive boundary layer? ..and what is there for the silver to react with, but oxygen? I also find it interesting that crystal clear [colorless but strong] CS appears blackish when placed in a milk jug type DW water container while DW in the same type jug right next to it has no tint to it at all. [as viewed through the container] ..and..CS that dries on a white surface will stain that surface brown. Ken At 10:55 AM 6/18/02 -0400, you wrote: I have wondered that as well. My suspicion is the particle shape. I suspect that the mezo may have dense spherical particle, and the cs that is formed by normal electrolysis methods may be more snow flake shaped. The resonances of a particle will be consistant with the bulk of the metal, which would be much larger on a spherical particle than on a snowflake,
Re: CSsilver uses
It is not a strong solution, 1% or so if I remember right. Silver Nitrate will not cause black staining unless either exposed to bright light, or a developer is present. Apparently the lack of bright light and a developer prevents the silver nitrate from blinding due to reduction. Marshall Ode Coyote wrote: Silver nitrate is a corrosive substance and will stain tissues black. Silver chloride? Ken At 08:19 PM 6/18/02 -0700, you wrote: Children wire sometimes born of a mother who had venereal disease. When left untreated the child would go blind. When the Silver Chloride was added to the eye blindness was prevented. It was a rule to treat all children. I believe I remember hearing that the treatment sometimes burned the eye tissue. Marlene Wa. - Original Message - From: Tai-Pan Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 9:57 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSsilver uses Hi d.linen, Sort of indirectly, not really for blindness. Bless you, Bob Lee d.linen wrote: They used to put silver nitrate in the eyes of newborns to prevent blindness. Rich Adams wrote: Can ANYONE list some commercial uses of silver other then the bandages at silverlon and other then the burn centers use it? In regards to healing that is... Respectfully, Rich Adams -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org/http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.htmlhttp://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- oozing on the muggy shore of the gulf coast l...@fbtc.net
CSRe: Website for Silver List
Tony writes: Here are steps to take to filter mail for Netscape 4.7 users. Example: to automatically send all incoming email with CS in the subject line to a Mailbox called Silver List. 1 Create the Silver List mailbox in Local Mail. 1.1 In Netscape Messenger, Click on Local Mail in the left hand menu. 1.2 Right click and click on New Folder. 1.3 Type Silver List in the Name window. click OK Step 1.2---nothing happens when right-clicking here. (Netscape 4.77) jr -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSWhat does CS taste like?
Silly question eh? What does CS taste like? Eric
Re: CSWhat does CS taste like?
Eric, It tastes like water, with a very slight metallic taste. Very easy to get down. Nancy... - Original Message - From: S. Eric Jackson To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 1:51 PM Subject: CSWhat does CS taste like? Silly question eh? What does CS taste like? Eric
Re: CScolloidal color
Greetings to all Silver list members Ode Coyote wrote: I might be crazy, but I see a relationship between color, particle [crystal vs size and oxygen. The crystal shape of pure silver is 'face centered cubic'. ..and..CS that dries on a white surface will stain that surface brown. What if I say that I can hear the anti-microbial properties in the 5 ppm Colloidal Silver in Blue and taste the cellular proliferation in the 10 ppm in Yellow. It sounds crazier than you. But there are individuals in our midst who see,talk and think like that. This trait is inborn. What is synesthesia? With regards Lew Source: http://www.scientificamerican.com/askexpert_question.cfm?articleID=00019AA3 -7A7C-1D06-8E49809EC588EEDF Thomas J. Palmeri, Randolph B. Blake and René Marois of the psychology department and the Center for Integrative and Cognitive Neuroscience at Vanderbilt University study synesthesia. They provide the following explanation: When you eat chicken, does it feel pointy or round? Is a week shaped like a tipped-over D with the days arranged counterclockwise? Does the note B taste like horseradish? Do you get confused about appointments because Tuesday and Thursday have the same color? Do you go to the wrong train station in New York City because Grand Central has the same color as the 42nd Street address of Penn Station? When you read a newspaper or listen to someone speaking do you see a rainbow of colors? If so, you might have synesthesia. Synesthesia is an anomalous blending of the senses in which the stimulation of one modality simultaneously produces sensation in a different modality. Synesthetes hear colors, feel sounds and taste shapes. What makes synesthesia different from drug-induced hallucinations is that synesthetic sensations are highly consistent: for particular synesthetes, the note F is always a reddish shade of rust, a 3 is always pink or truck is always blue. The estimated occurrence of synesthesia ranges from rarer than one in 20,000 to as prevalent as one in 200. Of the various manifestations of synesthesia, the most common involves seeing monochromatic letters, digits and words in unique colorsthis is called grapheme-color synesthesia. One rather striking observation is that such synesthetes all seem to experience very different colors for the same graphemic cues. Different synesthetes may see 3 in yellow, pink or red. Such synesthetic colors are not elicited by meaning, because 2 may be orange but two is blue and 7 may be red but seven is green. Even more perplexing is that synesthetes typically report seeing both the color the character is printed in as well as their synesthetic color. For example, is both blue (real color) and light green (synesthetic color). Synesthetes report having unusually good memory for things such as phone numbers, security codes and polysyllabic anatomical terminology because digits, letters and syllables take on such a unique panoply of colors. But synesthetes also report making computational errors because 6 and 8 have the same color and claim to prejudge couples they meet because the colors of their first names clash so hideously. For too long, synesthetes were dismissed as having overactive imaginations, confusing memories for perceptions or taking metaphorical speech far too literally. Recent research, however, has documented the reality of synesthesia and is beginning to make headway into understanding what might cause such unusual perceptions. Research has documented that synesthetic colors are perceived in much the same way that nonsynesthetic individuals perceive real colors. Thus, synesthetic color differences can facilitate performance on tasks in which real color differences facilitate performance for nonsynesthetes and can impair performance on tasks in which real color differences impair performance for nonsynesthetes. In one such task, people are asked to say the color of the ink a word is printed in as quickly as possible (for example, responding pink to and blue to ). For lexical synesthetes, these words take on unique colors. When the synesthetic color matches the ink color, responses are fast. But when the synesthetic color mismatches the ink color, responses are slow, presumably because subjects need to resolve the conflict over which color name to respond with. Although such results demonstrate that synesthesia is automatic, in the sense that they cannot turn off their synesthesic experience even when it interferes with a task, these results do not reveal whether synesthetic colors are perceptions or memories. To demonstrate the perceptual reality of synesthetic colors, researchers have introduced synesthetic color differences into a variety of
CSkidney/bladder infections
Can anyone relate any bladder/kidney infection with CS stories? My friend, who I gave a jug of CS to awhile back, has what she thinks an infection. She had very little left of the CS I gave her. She thought, what the hell, and ingested the little bit over 2 days, she says the pain is gone and wants more CS from me. Rich Adams rad...@kc.rr.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSSource for recipes?
Yeah, I know, so much for cheap filters. We buy our water now and it seems to be pretty good stuff, especially with a snort of cs added to each glass of drinking water. John -Original Message- From: James Osbourne, Holmes [mailto:a...@cybermesa.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 8:06 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSSource for recipes? Filters remove only particles; not dissolved substances. A very fine one typically passes anything smaller that about 1 micron. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: John Reeder [mailto:jree...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 9:38 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSSource for recipes? My tap water pegs the scale. The faucet filter that I used to trust is about 120 ppm. John -Original Message- From: S J Young [mailto:you...@konnections.net] Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 8:18 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSSource for recipes? John, Any water measuring less than 1 ppm is very good and most likely steam distilled. You will need special laboratory equipment and procedures to get significantly greater purity. The Wallmart DW must be steam distilled or it would indicate a higher ppm. As an experiment, put a few drops of your tap water into a few ounces of the DW, and you will see the ppm goes way up. --Steve - Original Message - From: John Reeder jree...@sbcglobal.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 5:54 PM Subject: RE: CSSource for recipes? Re: CSSource for recipes?I use WalMart DW and find that it is about 0.5-0.9 ppm. That is why I was wondering about the 'steam-distilled' bit. John -Original Message- From: Jack Dayton [mailto:jack...@harbornet.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 4:39 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSSource for recipes? Hi John, WalMart's DW has been discussed within the last few weeks, but I'm not sure what was said, but I think the answer is no. Jack From: John Reeder jree...@sbcglobal.net BTW, is WalMart DW steam-distilled? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSUsing the lists well...
On Tue, 18 Jun 2002 20:27:32 -0400, Gladys Williams gw...@juno.com wrote: I think we should call caucasians Pinkies-- Ha Ha just kidding folks. You see I have a sense of humor. On the serious side Black, African American or People of Color is perfectly acceptable to me. I'm pretty beige, myself. :) -- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSource for recipes?
On Tue, 18 Jun 2002 16:54:32 -0700, John Reeder jree...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Re: CSSource for recipes?I use WalMart DW and find that it is about 0.5-0.9 ppm. That is why I was wondering about the 'steam-distilled' bit. WalMart DW is different in different parts of the country. That's because WalMart uses different suppliers (and doesn't bother to identify the suppliers). -- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSource for recipes?
Hi Ken, On Wed, 19 Jun 2002 09:31:18 -0400, Ode Coyote coy...@alltel.net wrote: Extremely pure water does not pull enough current to prevent fluffy deposits from growing [which slow the reaction even further and wastes silver] and can take several hours to draw significant current which will throw any attempts at timing a batch right out the window unless an ammeter is employed to set a base reading. What I've found (anecdotaly) is that it's not the purity of the water that causes the fluff (silver oxide). It's the ozonated water that seems to make it. -- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCS Paint Paste
Interesting science lab supplier's catalog excerpts: Silver Paint A dispersion of silver particles in water. #A1206 Silver Paint, 25g Quick Dry Silver Paint Silver particles dispersed in an organic carrier. Drying is much faster than a water-based colloidal silver, but the sample is in contact with organic material. Both adhesion and electrical conductivity are excellent. #A1208 Quick Dry Silver Paint, 100g #A1209 Thinner for Silver Paint, 100ml Conductive Silver Adhesives: Liquid colloidal silver Liquid colloidal silver, fast drying, with applicator brush. Flat surface texture; average grain size less than 10µ. #P-CS-15 Colloidal Silver, 15g #P-CS-30 Colloidal Silver, 30g #P-SE-25 Liquid Silver Extender, 25ml Conductive Silver Adhesives: Colloidal silver paste Colloidal silver paste, viscous, preferable for small samples. Can be applied with a toothpick. #P-CP-25 Colloidal Silver Paste, 25g #P-SP-25 Silver Paste Extender, 25ml http://www.ebsciences.com/sem/sem_sup.htm#product11 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS Distilled water
Hi Larry, I work/live in Germany and I just checked 5 different brands of empty distilled water bottles I have and none have a skull and crossbones on them. They are VDE 0510 standard and are for household use to include irons, batteries, fish tanks, humidifiers and photography to name a few. And I make my CS from this water. There are a few brands that are labeled not for drinking but they are not the VDE 0510 standard. Hope this helps. Theodore --- larry tankersley la...@webtv.net wrote: Dear list... does anyone know if this is true. Did you know that every bottle of reverse osmosis, distilled, or de-ionized water sold in Europe contains a skull and crossbones on the label? Do you know that the European label states that these waters are only to be used for steam irons and batteries, and not to be given to pets? If Europeans won't drink these waters or feed them to their pets, then do you really think it's okay for you to drink them? .. The statement comes from a site that is selling water treatment Gizze's. I've posted two folks I know,one in Prague and one in Germany and ask them to see if this is true there. If you know someone in Europe you could ask, or are in Europe and could post back to the list, I would be most interested to hear from you. Thanks larry tankersley; Gainesville,Florida USA -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com
RE: CSSource for recipes?
True, but I messed up, I don't get my DW from WalMart, but from WalGreens. John -Original Message- From: Dean T. Miller [mailto:dtmil...@midiowa.net] Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 12:03 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSSource for recipes? On Tue, 18 Jun 2002 16:54:32 -0700, John Reeder jree...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Re: CSSource for recipes?I use WalMart DW and find that it is about 0.5-0.9 ppm. That is why I was wondering about the 'steam-distilled' bit. WalMart DW is different in different parts of the country. That's because WalMart uses different suppliers (and doesn't bother to identify the suppliers). -- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSkidney/bladder infections
Our granddaughter, who is 8 came down with a bladder/kidney infection last Sunday. Our daughter gave her lots of CS and cranberry juice. A few hours later she started running a fever of 103, and her kidney started hurting quite severely. Her mother then called the doctor, who made an appointment for her Monday morning. That night her fever broke, and she went to the doctor's office without any symptoms. They tested her and said she had no infection. My daughter said that the cs she gave her must have cured her, and the doctor said he had no idea what that is, but he is hearing a lot of his patients say that now. The only thing I can think of is that the increase in symptoms was a herx reaction. Marshall Rich Adams wrote: Can anyone relate any bladder/kidney infection with CS stories? My friend, who I gave a jug of CS to awhile back, has what she thinks an infection. She had very little left of the CS I gave her. She thought, what the hell, and ingested the little bit over 2 days, she says the pain is gone and wants more CS from me. Rich Adams rad...@kc.rr.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSUsing the lists well...
From: Gladys Williams gw...@juno.com You go to church on Sunday morning and a Stripper is doing her act in the back pew. Offensive? Hi Gladys, heck no , I wouldn't be offended unless she wasn't qualified for the performance. What church did you say that was? :-) Jack -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSource for recipes?
The same is true of Walmart, their DW in Knoxville is awful. Marshall Dean T. Miller wrote: On Tue, 18 Jun 2002 16:54:32 -0700, John Reeder jree...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Re: CSSource for recipes?I use WalMart DW and find that it is about 0.5-0.9 ppm. That is why I was wondering about the 'steam-distilled' bit. WalMart DW is different in different parts of the country. That's because WalMart uses different suppliers (and doesn't bother to identify the suppliers). -- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS Paint Paste
Yep, used the stuff many a time for a conductive paint on. Marshall jrowl...@nctimes.net wrote: Interesting science lab supplier's catalog excerpts: Silver Paint A dispersion of silver particles in water. #A1206 Silver Paint, 25g Quick Dry Silver Paint Silver particles dispersed in an organic carrier. Drying is much faster than a water-based colloidal silver, but the sample is in contact with organic material. Both adhesion and electrical conductivity are excellent. #A1208 Quick Dry Silver Paint, 100g #A1209 Thinner for Silver Paint, 100ml Conductive Silver Adhesives: Liquid colloidal silver Liquid colloidal silver, fast drying, with applicator brush. Flat surface texture; average grain size less than 10µ. #P-CS-15 Colloidal Silver, 15g #P-CS-30 Colloidal Silver, 30g #P-SE-25 Liquid Silver Extender, 25ml Conductive Silver Adhesives: Colloidal silver paste Colloidal silver paste, viscous, preferable for small samples. Can be applied with a toothpick. #P-CP-25 Colloidal Silver Paste, 25g #P-SP-25 Silver Paste Extender, 25ml http://www.ebsciences.com/sem/sem_sup.htm#product11 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCScs 4 pints a gallon? duh
Diane wrote: I found where I can get 4 pints for 68.00$ and they give me a free pint and a 2oz spray bottle full. Is this a really good buy? Hi Di, I dont think that is the way to go. by the time you place your 2nd order you will have spent almost $150.00 depending on SH. For $ 125.00 including SH you can own a simple to use silver generator that will provide hundreds of gallons of a good grade of CS, and the only extra cost will be about $1.00 per gallon for distilled water. Check out http://silverpuppy.com/ole%20bob.html The owner is very helpful with newbies (now don't let me down Ken):-) Jack -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: looking to buy electrodes
Reid wrote: From: Reid Harvey ceram...@bol-online.com Thanks to all for the helpful responses, and BTW, I think the U.S. mint has a colossal nerve to state right on the coin that at 92% the standing liberty dollars is 'fine silver.' Reid I'm shocked! I didn't think our government would do such a thing. Jack -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSource for recipes?
Hi John, I don't have a PWT yet so I don't know what the Walgreens' DW would read - (A little help here Trem) but steam distilled, I think, would be displayed on the label, it is on Walgreens'. I'll check some other brands and see what I learn. I have been using and recommending the Walgreens brand because Jason, http://silverdata.20m.con recommended it. Jack From: John Reeder jree...@sbcglobal.net I use WalMart DW and find that it is about 0.5-0.9 ppm. That is why I was wondering about the 'steam-distilled' bit.
Re: CSWhat does CS taste like?
Silly question eh? What does CS taste like? Eric To me, just like distilled water. Marshalee
Re: CSUsing the lists well...
I think we should call caucasians Pinkies-- Ha Ha just kidding folks. You see I have a sense of humor. On the serious side Black, African American or People of Color is perfectly acceptable to me. I'm pretty beige, myself. :) -- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF Without CS, in the summer I`m a lovely shade of SCARLET!! Ouch! Usually I`m a nice shade of piggy pink, or in winter, fishbelly. Yuck. Marshalee -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSUsing the lists well...
Wel, we all have same thing in common and no one can change that. We are ALL GODS Children We all deserve respect when it comes to our nationality any more. We may have many nationalities in us if we do genealogy and go back far enough. Bacxk 6 gen's I have Catawba Indian N C .I found. and no one can take our God from us. Maxine mm...@sprynet.com -Original Message- From: Dean T. Miller dtmil...@midiowa.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 11:52 AM Subject: Re: CSUsing the lists well... On Tue, 18 Jun 2002 20:27:32 -0400, Gladys Williams gw...@juno.com wrote: I think we should call caucasians Pinkies-- Ha Ha just kidding folks. You see I have a sense of humor. On the serious side Black, African American or People of Color is perfectly acceptable to me. I'm pretty beige, myself. :) -- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSEyes, silver nitrate, was Re: CSsilver uses
Hi Listers, Many interesting replies on the subject. So here are a few more words about it. Back in the 30s and 40s the VD rate was quite high in this country. The main problem was thought to be due to the gonococcus bacteria, however, we now know that staphylococcus, streptococcus, pneumococcus, and other bacteria and viruses are sometimes responsible. The government conducted a high profile VD program including the use of silver nitrate in the eyes of newborn infants. Originally only babies from infected mothers were treated this way, but it was determined that the tests for gonorrhea were missing some cases, and it would prevent other pathogens from affecting the newborns, so it was decided to treat all newborns the same way. Today we are aware that most pathogens enter the body via the fluids around the eye ball. That is the only place on the human body where a pathogen may enter with out having to pass through a membrane. All other areas of the body require a pathogen to pass through at least one and sometimes two membranes. It is very important to keep the fingers away from the eyes, hands should always be rinsed off before touching the area of the eye or rubbing it. It is recognized that colds, flu, sinus infections and most other illnesses start by rubbing the eye ball and introducing pathogens into the fluids around the eye. Conjunctivitis Neonatorum (also know as Ophthalmia Neonatorum) is a purulent conjunctivitis of the newborn, acquired from an infected birth canal. Mostly by gonorrhea, but not always. The normal routine was the instilling of two drops of 1% silver nitrate soln into each eye immediately after birth, followed by penicillin given parenterally after delivery. Ophthalmia means inflammation of the conjunctiva or the eyeball. The conjunctiva is the mucous membrane that lines the inner surface of the eyelids and continues over the forepart of the eyeball. Infection of this membrane itself can lead to blindness in some cases if the infection gets into the tear sacs and then into the body. The eye has a normal bacteria flora of Staphylococcus epidermidis, S. aureus, Corynebacterium spp., Streptococcus pneumoniae, Neisseria spp., Moraxella spp., and Haemophilus parainfluenzae which keep the area populated and helps prevent other pathogens from finding a foothold. The tears themselves have an antimicrobial substance called lysozyme. However a newborn does not have these flora established yet, so need help in the prevention of pathogens getting a foothold. It is well known that in the course of adult sex play sperm may get into an eye by accident. If the sperm has the gonorrhea pathogen it is possible to get an infection of the eye and the possibility of blindness in that eye. The silver nitrate solutions were also to prevent Chlamydia trachomatis, Haemophilus influenzae, and Streptococcus pneumoniae. Currently it is sometimes replaced by penicillin or erythromycin. An old treatment for preventing infections from getting in the eyeballs was to rub the fingers in the armpits before rubbing the eye. The toxins from the normal flora of the arm pits would kill pathogens on the fingers before rubbing the eye. My grandfather taught me that, thats the way it was done out in the fields. We also know that CS will kill pathogens and is an excellent material for washing the eyes and preventing infections. Bless you, Bob lee Marshall Dudley wrote: Actually it was/is. The purpose was to kill gonorrhea and other pathogens, which if they end up in a newborn's eyes, will cause blindness. http://victoria.tc.ca/~ya462/causes.htm Ophthalmia Neonatorum is an eye infection that strikes newborn babies. It is caused by certain bacteria that pass from the mother's birth canal into the infant's eyes. These bacteria include the ones that cause gonorrhea, a sexually transmitted disease. The symptoms of ophthalmia neonatorum--inflammation of the eyelids and cornea--appear two or three days after birth in most cases. The infection can produce blindness if it is not treated. In many countries, doctors prevent ophthalmia neonatorum by dropping silver nitrate or penicillin solution into the eyes of newborn babies. This procedure is required by most states of the United States. http://www.factmonster.com/ce6/sci/A0856926.html Complications of childbirth affecting the newborn include infant blindness attributable to gonorrhea infection, now largely eliminated by routine administration of silver nitrate to the eyes; Marshall Tai-Pan wrote: > Hi d.linen, > > Sort of indirectly, not really for blindness. > > > Bless you, Bob Lee > > "d.linen" wrote: > >> They used to put silver nitrate in the eyes of newborns to prevent >> blindness. >> -- oozing on the muggy shore of the gulf coast l...@fbtc.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list
Re: CSSource for recipes?
In what ways can extremely pure water cause problems? Richard - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 5:10 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSSource for recipes? Extremely pure water can present problems too. Ken
Re: CSSource for recipes?
From: Chris Buckner cb4libe...@attbi.com I would appreciate your recommendation for the name of the supplier that you spoke of for the .999 silver wire. Hi Chris, I was at a site today that looks like a good source, - check out: www.ccsilver.com Jack
Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V102 #444
From: flor...@aol.com I would like to make CS. I have never done so..have no idea how to go about it. Any suggestions for an absolute newcomer? Thanks, Florence Hi Flo, spend some time at: http://silverdata20m.com there is a tremendous amount of very useful info. there. Jack
Re: CSWhat does CS taste like?
To me it tastes slightly metallic Serita ---BeginMessage--- Silly question eh? What does CS taste like? Eric To me, just like distilled water. Marshalee ---End Message---
Re: CSSource for recipes?
From: John Reeder jree...@sbcglobal.net If cs is poured into the 'DW/cs to be', doesn't that prevent the fluffy deposits. Lately, I have been having trouble getting my Colloid Master 777 to shut off after the proper cs level is reached. I don't know if it is an equipment problem or if the problem is the nut behind the wheel. Perhaps you are right and my water is too pure. Ideas? I haven't called the CM 777 people yet. Hi John, I add about 10% CS to a new batch of DW, and if the amount I'm making will fit into the microwave, I heat it to about 100 degrees -- gets things going in a hurry. Jack
Re: CSUsing the lists well...
On Wed, 19 Jun 2002 13:50:17 -0500, Dean T. Miller dtmil...@midiowa.net wrote: I'm pretty beige, myself. :) -- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF I dunno... I've seen you, and it's NOT pretty! Chuck Rent this space 555-7368(RENT) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSmosquito larvae
Beats me. Wild natural mosquitos. I have been down south in the service and our native NW mosquitos are tiny compared to Florida mosquitos. The baby KOI will eat a mosquito larvae that is the same size. Looks like all you need is some gold fish or other small fish to rid your pond of mosquitos. Brickey -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSHVAC CS making- Canadian maple leaf electrodes
CSers, While checking options for new systems and electrodes I'd like to know if anyone can think of a good reason why Canadian Maple Leaf dollars wouldn't work with a 110DC HVAC generator. I would simply suspend the coins with pure silver wire. I hope I am correct in assuming these coins to be about the same size and shape as U.S. standing liberty dollars (2 mm. thickness by 4 cm. diameter). This would give them about 2500mm sq. surface are, about the same area as the electrodes strips I've used upto now. What do you think? Reid -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSPotassium Iodide - How to encapsulate your own
Potassium Iodide in granular form Fisher Scientific, is quite inexpensive and can be ordered in 500 gm jars for about $12.00. It can be capsulated at home using a home encapsulator (also cheap) which can be purchased from some health food stores, otherwise from S.L. Anderson in CA 1(530)589-3062. Don't forget to order the 'tamper' with the encapsulator. The Potassium Iodide weighs 25.76 gm per tablespoon assuming it is not too finely ground. Divide by 12 and now you have a weight of about 2 gm per 1/4 tsp or one '00' capsule. The dosage seems to be 100 mg per tablet. One capsule of the stuff will weigh 2 gm or 2,000 mg, that is really 20 capsules in one. So, to every tsp of potassium iodide, add 19 tsp of corn starch and mix thoroughly in a ziplock bag. When mixed, it can be encapsulated, and every capsule will contain +/- 100 mg potassium iodide. Sincerely, Leo -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSPotassium Iodide - How to encapsulate your own
Isn't it Potassium Iodate that one needs for thyroid protection in case of a Nuclear catastrophe? Or do they yield the same result of loading down the thyroid with elemental iodine? I know this is how the Potassium Iodate from Medical Corps works. It would be nice to know that there is another alternative. Thanks Eric -Original Message- From: Leo Regehr [mailto:leoel...@telusplanet.net] Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 11:23 PM To: Silver List Subject: CSPotassium Iodide - How to encapsulate your own Potassium Iodide in granular form Fisher Scientific, is quite inexpensive and can be ordered in 500 gm jars for about $12.00. It can be capsulated at home using a home encapsulator (also cheap) which can be purchased from some health food stores, otherwise from S.L. Anderson in CA 1(530)589-3062. Don't forget to order the 'tamper' with the encapsulator. The Potassium Iodide weighs 25.76 gm per tablespoon assuming it is not too finely ground. Divide by 12 and now you have a weight of about 2 gm per 1/4 tsp or one '00' capsule. The dosage seems to be 100 mg per tablet. One capsule of the stuff will weigh 2 gm or 2,000 mg, that is really 20 capsules in one. So, to every tsp of potassium iodide, add 19 tsp of corn starch and mix thoroughly in a ziplock bag. When mixed, it can be encapsulated, and every capsule will contain +/- 100 mg potassium iodide. Sincerely, Leo -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: CS Paint Paste
Silver Paint A dispersion of silver particles in water...#A1206 Silver Paint, 25g http://www.ebsciences.com/sem/sem_sup.htm#product11 Marshall, How does this differ from CS, as we know it here? Thanks, jr -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSSource for recipes?
Re: CSSource for recipes?I followed someones advise on this list and that is why I use WalGreens. I tried another brand and it tested at about 3-4 ppm. Used that as drinking water. John -Original Message- From: Jack Dayton [mailto:jack...@harbornet.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 3:51 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSSource for recipes? Hi John, I don't have a PWT yet so I don't know what the Walgreens' DW would read - (A little help here Trem) but steam distilled, I think, would be displayed on the label, it is on Walgreens'. I'll check some other brands and see what I learn. I have been using and recommending the Walgreens brand because Jason, http://silverdata.20m.con recommended it. Jack From: John Reeder jree...@sbcglobal.net I use WalMart DW and find that it is about 0.5-0.9 ppm. That is why I was wondering about the 'steam-distilled' bit.
RE: CSSource for recipes?
Re: CSSource for recipes?I add some cs to my DW also, but I don't use a microwave for anything. I read some data that indicates that microwaves change the molecular structure of food and even water. We have retreated to the 1930s in our kitchen. John -Original Message- From: Jack Dayton [mailto:jack...@harbornet.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 6:34 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSSource for recipes? From: John Reeder jree...@sbcglobal.net If cs is poured into the 'DW/cs to be', doesn't that prevent the fluffy deposits. Lately, I have been having trouble getting my Colloid Master 777 to shut off after the proper cs level is reached. I don't know if it is an equipment problem or if the problem is the nut behind the wheel. Perhaps you are right and my water is too pure. Ideas? I haven't called the CM 777 people yet. Hi John, I add about 10% CS to a new batch of DW, and if the amount I'm making will fit into the microwave, I heat it to about 100 degrees -- gets things going in a hurry. Jack
CSAmbertose
Hello all, Has anyone on the list heard of a product called Ambertose? Or had any experence with it? It is supposed to boost your immune system. You may reply to me personally off list. Or go to the OT list..Thanks Serita -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: CS Paint Paste
On Wed, 19 Jun 2002 21:20:42 -0700, jrowl...@nctimes.net wrote: Silver Paint A dispersion of silver particles in water...#A1206 Silver Paint, 25g http://www.ebsciences.com/sem/sem_sup.htm#product11 Marshall, How does this differ from CS, as we know it here? It's paint. :) The silver particles are in an emulsion (I suppose it could be called colloidal) and they are NOT ionic. They're thick enough to conduct electricity when the solvent (hydrocarbon or water) evaporates. -- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
