CSNegative ion frequency detox device
From another list: __ ...was led to the NRG Detox Footbath...an electrical device emits a negative ionizing frequency, is emmersed in a footbath of warm water into which one places one's feet for up to 40 minutes and this draws out positively-charged pathogens and toxic metal and mineral elements. It has helped me but you should see the water aferward! Yucky, copper-colored to dark brown gunk floating around in it! (Wow! Do I have the cleanest toenails ever now!)... http://makeashorterlink.com/?Y25325CD6 Note: Could not track down NRG Detox Footbath; correct name may be Detox Foot Spa: http://www.doctorajadams.com/DetoxFootSpa.html jr -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS/H2O2 and aromatherapy oils ?
- Original Message - From: esl...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 11:48 AM Subject: CSCS/H2O2 and aromatherapy oils ? I had a thought to combine CS with some H2O2 and eucalyptis or lemon oil for cleaning /deodorizing and topical use. Has anyone tried this and does the CS lose it's effectiveness when shaken with oil? If it worked I think it would make a great smelling, natural, cleaning deodorizing solution. I'm trying to get rid of commercial chemical cleansers in my home. Thanks Steve I have used CS in a medical nebulizer along with eucalyptus, tea tree, thyme, and oregano oils. The combination seems to work fine for me. Nenah -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNeed Engineering Help
Check into the art of cupping Basically, it's the formation of a vaccuum by reducing the volume of hot air in a cup or bottle when it cools. One way is to place a piece of toilet paper soaked in alchohol in a tall shot glass, light it and snuff it out against the skin. Another way is to heat the cup in hot water and let it cool against the skin. I've even found that squeezing the air out of a sturdy plastic bottle [ asprin bottle] and letting it expand will induce a pretty good vaccuum. great for boils and such Ode At 12:32 PM 12/19/2003 -0600, you wrote: Morning Marshall, It is my understanding that the electricity somehow neutralizes the poison in the bite. I doubt there is any poison left after two weeks, so don't be surprised if it does not help at this time. This has been my feelings also. However, Dr. Osborn reports doing this as much as 5 weeks after the bite with favorable results. We did the treatment about 7 PM. By 11 PM, I noticed a difference in the draining. A different color and viscosity. I bandage before going to sleep with a CS soaked bandage. This am more drainage was noticed than on previous nights. I leave the bandage off for periods during the day. This am, while walking around doing the very limited morning chores, drainage was such that it ran down to my sock. It had never done this before. I can use 3 fingers, pressing down, and moving them around the bite, within 1/2 inch, no pain, and the area seems softer. Something is happening differently. I have a number of treatments in line that I have not used yet simply because the wound is draining so well. I have had a number of simple infections ( simple boils ) that have been many times more painful than this spider bite. The absence of pain has amazed me. Last night a neighbor nurse called me and wanted me to come to the office where she works for cortisone and antibiotics. She said, one week of antibiotics will not kill you. I had to say, No thank you. Hopefully, I do not need these anytime soon. CS soaks, MSM soaks, and Epsom Salts soaks plus the Onion poultice when the swelling was bad ( about 3 days ) plus a barrage of supplements and vitamin C may have been the key to zero pain. I can only guess what the resulting effect would have been using conventional treatment of antibiotics. Wayne But if you try it and it does help, tell us. I would love to be wrong on this. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSThe Missing Link
Hi Robb, I am glad to see that you are getting improvement with the use of Gatorade along with CS. I see that you have started with 15 ounces CS and another 5 - 6 ounces Gatorade and this was too much for you. Have you found an acceptable ratio for you or is it too early to ask pls ? Do you also add H2O2 ? and how many drops pls ? My wife has tried CS, CMO, etc. but with no improvement and I would certainly like her to try CS with Gatorade along with H2O2 if required. Thanks and wish you keep improving with your health. Best regards. Gaston - Original Message - From: Robb Allen rube211...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 12:35 AM Subject: CSThe Missing Link . I started this practice with 15 ounces of CS with another 5 or 6 ounces of gatorade mixed in. This is too much~!!!.the spirochetes in my joints are screaming at me and this is a really BIG shock to me..I've been fighting this over and overpulling my hair out trying to figure out how and why some people are helped and some arn't.particularly with lyme disease. .Robb -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSH2O2 question
Hi there, can someone please tell me if drinking H2O2, 3%, in water is the same chemically as drinking ozonated water and therefore would have the same benefits? Also can you please tell me if you add H2O2 to CS can you keep such a solution for hours, days, weeks? Thanks, BW, Sheila --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.545 / Virus Database: 339 - Release Date: 27/11/03 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSilver is Safer
I had similar scary experiences when I had a silver car. More near misses of people not seeing me than any other vehicle I've ever owned. Got rear-ended at the bottom of a slope also.. paula - Original Message - From: Craig Chamberlin cchamber...@itsmyplace.com This is contrary to my experience with a silver car (I live in Portland, OR). During late fall, winter, and spring (the rainy season) silver is difficult to see on grey days. I felt like people were trying to get me. Later I purchased a black car and didn't have the problem anymore. Here, it is my humble observation, that more older folks drive white cars...don't know why. I don't have access to stats on colors/accidents, etc. I will see if they are available. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSNegative press for Cs on Lyme site
http://www.lymealliance.org/research/grier/grier_8.php Hi there, was looking up sites on lyme and came across this negative, inaccurate article about CS, anyone out there got the knowledge, brainpower to correct this guy? BW, Sheila --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.545 / Virus Database: 339 - Release Date: 27/11/03 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSVery interesting
http://www.tetrasil.com/science.html# JOH -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSNeed Engineering Help
Praise God, Wayne, You've been a good patient, enduring much well-meaning advice from strangers (who have become close--like family--who truly care and are concerned about you!) What a great piece of witness that you are getting electro-relief at this late stage of treatment! It seems as though you're on the road to complete recovery! Thanks for sharing your experience and impressive photos outlining your recovery! Best wishes to ALL for a Happy Holiday and a Very Good NEW YEAR! Sincerely, Richard Harris, 556 yr FL Pharmacist -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@execonn.com] Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 1:13 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSNeed Engineering Help That is exciting news. I am completely at a loss to understand what is happening or how it could help at this late date, but if it works, great! Marshall Wayne Fugitt wrote: Morning Marshall, It is my understanding that the electricity somehow neutralizes the poison in the bite. I doubt there is any poison left after two weeks, so don't be surprised if it does not help at this time. This has been my feelings also. However, Dr. Osborn reports doing this as much as 5 weeks after the bite with favorable results. We did the treatment about 7 PM. By 11 PM, I noticed a difference in the draining. A different color and viscosity. I bandage before going to sleep with a CS soaked bandage. This am more drainage was noticed than on previous nights. I leave the bandage off for periods during the day. This am, while walking around doing the very limited morning chores, drainage was such that it ran down to my sock. It had never done this before. I can use 3 fingers, pressing down, and moving them around the bite, within 1/2 inch, no pain, and the area seems softer. Something is happening differently. I have a number of treatments in line that I have not used yet simply because the wound is draining so well. I have had a number of simple infections ( simple boils ) that have been many times more painful than this spider bite. The absence of pain has amazed me. Last night a neighbor nurse called me and wanted me to come to the office where she works for cortisone and antibiotics. She said, one week of antibiotics will not kill you. I had to say, No thank you. Hopefully, I do not need these anytime soon. CS soaks, MSM soaks, and Epsom Salts soaks plus the Onion poultice when the swelling was bad ( about 3 days ) plus a barrage of supplements and vitamin C may have been the key to zero pain. I can only guess what the resulting effect would have been using conventional treatment of antibiotics. Wayne But if you try it and it does help, tell us. I would love to be wrong on this. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSThe Missing Link
Hi..I'm not using h202...if you have clear CS and the tyndall effect is nonexistant or very light.you won't need to use any peroxide. I am still decreasing so I'm not sure where I will settle for a dose.probably 2ounces cs and 2 ounces gatorade...its really amazing!!...Robb - Original Message - From: Gaston obouc...@colba.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 10:36 AM Subject: Re: CSThe Missing Link Hi Robb, I am glad to see that you are getting improvement with the use of Gatorade along with CS. I see that you have started with 15 ounces CS and another 5 - 6 ounces Gatorade and this was too much for you. Have you found an acceptable ratio for you or is it too early to ask pls ? Do you also add H2O2 ? and how many drops pls ? My wife has tried CS, CMO, etc. but with no improvement and I would certainly like her to try CS with Gatorade along with H2O2 if required. Thanks and wish you keep improving with your health. Best regards. Gaston - Original Message - From: Robb Allen rube211...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 12:35 AM Subject: CSThe Missing Link . I started this practice with 15 ounces of CS with another 5 or 6 ounces of gatorade mixed in. This is too much~!!!.the spirochetes in my joints are screaming at me and this is a really BIG shock to me..I've been fighting this over and overpulling my hair out trying to figure out how and why some people are helped and some arn't.particularly with lyme disease. .Robb -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSRe: Silver is Safer
White reflects sunlight znd resultant heat, helping the car A/C to be more efficient and insdie temp much more comfortable in FL sun. I would be very reluctant to buy a black or dark color car for use in FL. Have a Happy Holiday a Good New Year! Sincerely, Richard Harris, 56 yr FL Pharmacist -Original Message- From: jrowl...@nctimes.net [mailto:jrowl...@nctimes.net] Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 8:17 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRe: Silver is Safer Here, it is my humble observation, that more older folks drive white cars...don't know why.---Craig Yep---in Sun City, the senior community just outside of Phoenix, nearly every car is white. jr -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSHealth via mind over body
Hi SilverTedEBear, Sorry about your poor CS experience--but feel you need to inquire about the REST of the BECK PROTOCOL and extend your treatments to include the other 3 parts. Have you tried Zapping? If not, I recommend you contact V who builds Godzila/Beck zappers and who has a wealth of information to willingly share upon your request--V's address: web...@powerwebs.com built mine for $85 + $5 SH. I have NO financial interest in this, but a desire to share good, helpful info with everyone who seeks it and has a need. Happy Holiday Good New Year! Sincerely, Richard Harris, 56 yr FL Pharmacist -Original Message- From: SilverTedEBear [mailto:r75jqs...@sneakemail.com] Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 10:06 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSHealth via mind over body I've been looking at this myself but am having trouble connecting. Has anyone had any experience/success with this? I'm looking for something else to add to the arsenal as I am drinking at least a quart of CS a day and still having my herpes outbreaks!! :/ Ted --- Marshall Dudley mdudley-at-execonn.com |SilverList| pxvwhmurx...@sneakemail.com wrote: For those with an interest in this route to health: http://www.immunics.org/ Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree
RE: CSRe: Silver is Safer
Hi Craig, Most of these wise light car owners spend the winter in FL or Arizona and one can still get badly burned from the sun when you read that it's Winter time. Welcome back Marshalee! -Original Message- From: Craig Chamberlin [mailto:cchamber...@itsmyplace.com] Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 2:10 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRe: Silver is Safer Greetings, Well, Duh! White is cooler, in that desert heat!!! Been there, suffered that... :oP Marshalee So, Marshalee...how does the well, duh account for the preponderance of older folks here (Portland, OR) where the heat isn't such an issue? I too have been there and suffered that, a long time ago. In terms of 'solar gain' silver isn't that far away from white...Yes it is more, but not that much more. Kindest regards, Craig -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: [ silvermedicine.org ] Colloidal gold
I am making it with good results. I took a leap of faith and plunked down $400 with Pride Labs. I feel more energetic and positive. My mind is more clear. I will have to get a better read on dosage but right now take 4-8 oz per day of 30ppm colloidal gold. Drink it first thing in the morning. I have made 75ppm gold and used this too. The instructions with the Pride Labs machine say this is still non clumping colloidal gold My unit makes the CG via polarized HVDC. Not HVAC, which is what pushed me over the line to buy it and not try to make my own unit with a neon sign transformer. CG production: An above water arc is created between gold wire and the water. Best I can tell, the gold atoms arc into (migrate into) the water creating the colloidal gold. My take is: The less junk food you eat, the better the CG effect is. It's a bit subtle so will be missed by a heavy meat eater. This is my theory. Thus CG is not a universal cure all. You have to do your bit too with the CG. My guess is someone who prays and meditates will feel a stronger CG effect. Same for Chi Gung and Tai Chi. I would love to take CG on a five day fast when the weather warms up. Call up the Pride labs support number in Oregon for more info, they are friendly and informative. Go to their website. The unit makes a quart of colloidal gold (silver and copper wires were also included in kit) in 15-30 minutes. Comes with a ppm meter so you know how powerful the solution is. Weighs about 3 pounds Dan ___ - Original Message - From: Dan To: silverdatawebs...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 11:21 AM Subject: [ silvermedicine.org ] Colloidal gold Anybody making colloidal gold with good results ? Or do we have to spend $40 an ounce on the internet ! Dan Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT --- Our website address: http://www.silvermedicine.org Posting Rules: * No political posts, even health related, are permitted that are not directly related to another list members personal request or health condition. * No off-topic posting is permitted * All posts should contain language that is respectful toward other people. * Other health related information may be shared, provided that the information directly deals with another list member's health and well being. * No products or promotional material may be submitted as a part of messages. * Tag lines, within reason, are permitted at the end of email messages. * Violation of the above policy may result in immediate removal from the silvermedicine.org list without warning. No medical advice of any kind is given through this forum, and therefore no information shared is to be construed as such. Messages and materials shared are offered as personal experience, research, and discussion information for research purposes. As always, a licensed health-care professional should be consulted in all matters of illness and health. The FDA has listed all colloidal silver products as unclassified drugs. The FDA has no information on the safety or effectiveness of colloidal silver to treat any condition. To view the archives and membership area, goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/silverdatawebsite/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: silverdatawebsite-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com To contact the moderator privately send an email to: silverdatawebs...@hotmail.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSVery interesting
- Original Message - From: James Holmes ami...@starband.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 11:59 AM Subject: CSVery interesting http://www.tetrasil.com/science.html# JOH Yes, and this is even more interesting: http://www.prweb.com/releases/2002/1/prweb32492.php Del -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSThe Missing Link
Is this just ordinary Gatorade that you buy at the supermarket? What is the idea behind combining it with CS? Del - Original Message - From: Robb Allen rube211...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 12:11 PM Subject: Re: CSThe Missing Link Hi..I'm not using h202...if you have clear CS and the tyndall effect is nonexistant or very light.you won't need to use any peroxide. I am still decreasing so I'm not sure where I will settle for a dose.probably 2ounces cs and 2 ounces gatorade...its really amazing!!...Robb - Original Message - From: Gaston obouc...@colba.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 10:36 AM Subject: Re: CSThe Missing Link Hi Robb, I am glad to see that you are getting improvement with the use of Gatorade along with CS. I see that you have started with 15 ounces CS and another 5 - 6 ounces Gatorade and this was too much for you. Have you found an acceptable ratio for you or is it too early to ask pls ? Do you also add H2O2 ? and how many drops pls ? My wife has tried CS, CMO, etc. but with no improvement and I would certainly like her to try CS with Gatorade along with H2O2 if required. Thanks and wish you keep improving with your health. Best regards. Gaston - Original Message - From: Robb Allen rube211...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 12:35 AM Subject: CSThe Missing Link . I started this practice with 15 ounces of CS with another 5 or 6 ounces of gatorade mixed in. This is too much~!!!.the spirochetes in my joints are screaming at me and this is a really BIG shock to me..I've been fighting this over and overpulling my hair out trying to figure out how and why some people are helped and some arn't.particularly with lyme disease. .Robb -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNegative press for Cs on Lyme site
Hi Sheila: I have certainly seen worse articles, although I would agree that this article does not cover both sides of the story. I don't think that this pracitioner would change his mind by an onslaught of emails. In fact, I agree with many of his points about the information that is commonly available on the web. However, I've recently begun the developement of a section concerning MD's, clinics, and medical silver products. The section is broken down into three parts: 1. Practitioners - Medical Professionals using silver products 2. Medical Products - Medical grade silver products, including those with either EPA or FDA approval 3. Medical Research - Clinical, Laboratory, or otherwise degreed research concerning silver. http://www.silvermedicine.org/silver-medical.html This, I'm hoping, will become a good resource to combat ignorance concerning silver and medicine. I expect the release of much more information in the upcoming year, as there is a very qualified MD I know of who has been doing clinical research with CS the past few years, and I'm hoping that tissue sample studies ( done by a certified FDA lab ), and a host of new research material will become publically available this year. Best Regards, Jason - Original Message - From: J S Campbell campbe...@members.v21.co.uk To: silver-list silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 8:49 AM Subject: CSNegative press for Cs on Lyme site http://www.lymealliance.org/research/grier/grier_8.php Hi there, was looking up sites on lyme and came across this negative, inaccurate article about CS, anyone out there got the knowledge, brainpower to correct this guy? BW, Sheila --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.545 / Virus Database: 339 - Release Date: 27/11/03 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNegative press for Cs on Lyme site
This guy should have stayed in football. In his third response to the KAIRE claims he states that silver nitrate is caustic and does kill bacteria. Silver nitrate is made by dissolving silver metal in nitric acid and unless you neutralize it with an excess of hydroxide it remains acidic. Regards, Al - Original Message - From: J S Campbell campbe...@members.v21.co.uk To: silver-list silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 11:49 AM Subject: CSNegative press for Cs on Lyme site http://www.lymealliance.org/research/grier/grier_8.php Hi there, was looking up sites on lyme and came across this negative, inaccurate article about CS, anyone out there got the knowledge, brainpower to correct this guy? BW, Sheila --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.545 / Virus Database: 339 - Release Date: 27/11/03 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNegative press for Cs on Lyme site
I am also running in to people with lyme who choose abx over CS for safety reasons...It would put it all back into perpective if you will add up the number of abx related deaths and compare them with CS related deaths..(none).Those quackwatch people are really starting to make me mad..if some of the things they said were true..I'd be dead or blue by now...Robb - Original Message - From: Jason Eaton ey...@cox.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 3:17 PM Subject: Re: CSNegative press for Cs on Lyme site Hi Sheila: I have certainly seen worse articles, although I would agree that this article does not cover both sides of the story. I don't think that this pracitioner would change his mind by an onslaught of emails. In fact, I agree with many of his points about the information that is commonly available on the web. However, I've recently begun the developement of a section concerning MD's, clinics, and medical silver products. The section is broken down into three parts: 1. Practitioners - Medical Professionals using silver products 2. Medical Products - Medical grade silver products, including those with either EPA or FDA approval 3. Medical Research - Clinical, Laboratory, or otherwise degreed research concerning silver. http://www.silvermedicine.org/silver-medical.html This, I'm hoping, will become a good resource to combat ignorance concerning silver and medicine. I expect the release of much more information in the upcoming year, as there is a very qualified MD I know of who has been doing clinical research with CS the past few years, and I'm hoping that tissue sample studies ( done by a certified FDA lab ), and a host of new research material will become publically available this year. Best Regards, Jason - Original Message - From: J S Campbell campbe...@members.v21.co.uk To: silver-list silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 8:49 AM Subject: CSNegative press for Cs on Lyme site http://www.lymealliance.org/research/grier/grier_8.php Hi there, was looking up sites on lyme and came across this negative, inaccurate article about CS, anyone out there got the knowledge, brainpower to correct this guy? BW, Sheila --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.545 / Virus Database: 339 - Release Date: 27/11/03 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: [ silvermedicine.org ] Colloidal gold
Hi Dan: Thanks for the report. I'm not a colloidal gold expert, but please remember that there is a history behind gold as used in medicine. While the gold products used in clinical practice are gold compounds, and not at all like the product you are making, I thought you would like to consider: 1. That there is a tight dosage window with gold use in the body: If the body adsorbs too much gold, the beneficial effects are reversed; in other words, it can have the exact opposite effect that a smaller dose would ( see any good drug handbook ). I think it would take quite a bit low PPM CG to achieve the same effects as the sulfur or salt gold compounds, but it's just good to keep in mind, in the event that you experience benefit, then all of the sudden you experience nuerological effects, increase in arthritic pain, etc, that one may just simply have to decrease the dosage amount. Best Regards, Jason - Original Message - From: fig...@comcast.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com; silverdatawebs...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 10:50 AM Subject: CSRe: [ silvermedicine.org ] Colloidal gold I am making it with good results. I took a leap of faith and plunked down $400 with Pride Labs. I feel more energetic and positive. My mind is more clear. I will have to get a better read on dosage but right now take 4-8 oz per day of 30ppm colloidal gold. Drink it first thing in the morning. I have made 75ppm gold and used this too. The instructions with the Pride Labs machine say this is still non clumping colloidal gold My unit makes the CG via polarized HVDC. Not HVAC, which is what pushed me over the line to buy it and not try to make my own unit with a neon sign transformer. CG production: An above water arc is created between gold wire and the water. Best I can tell, the gold atoms arc into (migrate into) the water creating the colloidal gold. My take is: The less junk food you eat, the better the CG effect is. It's a bit subtle so will be missed by a heavy meat eater. This is my theory. Thus CG is not a universal cure all. You have to do your bit too with the CG. My guess is someone who prays and meditates will feel a stronger CG effect. Same for Chi Gung and Tai Chi. I would love to take CG on a five day fast when the weather warms up. Call up the Pride labs support number in Oregon for more info, they are friendly and informative. Go to their website. The unit makes a quart of colloidal gold (silver and copper wires were also included in kit) in 15-30 minutes. Comes with a ppm meter so you know how powerful the solution is. Weighs about 3 pounds Dan ___ - Original Message - From: Dan To: silverdatawebs...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 11:21 AM Subject: [ silvermedicine.org ] Colloidal gold Anybody making colloidal gold with good results ? Or do we have to spend $40 an ounce on the internet ! Dan Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT --- Our website address: http://www.silvermedicine.org Posting Rules: * No political posts, even health related, are permitted that are not directly related to another list members personal request or health condition. * No off-topic posting is permitted * All posts should contain language that is respectful toward other people. * Other health related information may be shared, provided that the information directly deals with another list member's health and well being. * No products or promotional material may be submitted as a part of messages. * Tag lines, within reason, are permitted at the end of email messages. * Violation of the above policy may result in immediate removal from the silvermedicine.org list without warning. No medical advice of any kind is given through this forum, and therefore no information shared is to be construed as such. Messages and materials shared are offered as personal experience, research, and discussion information for research purposes. As always, a licensed health-care professional should be consulted in all matters of illness and health. The FDA has listed all colloidal silver products as unclassified drugs. The FDA has no information on the safety or effectiveness of colloidal silver to treat any condition. To view the archives and membership area, goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/silverdatawebsite/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: silverdatawebsite-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com To contact the moderator privately send an email to: silverdatawebs...@hotmail.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive:
Re: CSHealth via mind over body
on 12/19/03 7:06 PM, SilverTedEBear at r75jqs...@sneakemail.com wrote: You must continue with c/s for at least 6 months. former shingles survivor I've been looking at this myself but am having trouble connecting. Has anyone had any experience/success with this? I'm looking for something else to add to the arsenal as I am drinking at least a quart of CS a day and still having my herpes outbreaks!! :/ Ted --- Marshall Dudley mdudley-at-execonn.com |SilverList| pxvwhmurx...@sneakemail.com wrote: For those with an interest in this route to health: http://www.immunics.org/ Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree
CSTetrasil
Greetings, all: I've been following the Tetrasil issue for quite some time. I'm suspecting that there are serious dangers associated with use, although this is only a suspicion, and it's based on one unqualified statement: Tetrasil can only be injected into the body one time, and only one time. Nowhere have I found the information as to why. I assume that the liver takes a BIG hit with the single dose. Now, when these people inject this product into the body, they are bringing the total blood content of silver up to 40PPM. That is bordering on absolute insanity. The company states that the product is non-toxic, and that has to be an outright lie. If it was not toxic, as claimed, then there shouldn't be an issue with injecting it a second time. The patented molecule ( a silica fused molecule, and thus a crystal ) acts as a delivery device that is triggered by pathogens. The makers claim that it is the energy release that is responsible for effectiveness. So you have a biologically inert substance going into the body, and then exploding when it contacts trigger material. What's left is a bunch of oxygen, in who knows what form, and a bunch of silver ions, both being delivered with a kenetic force that likely cannot be predicted in every situation. Now, we can get a similiar response by the addition of H2O2 and HIGH quality silver injected into the body at far lower levels, with complete safety, provided that one knows what one is doing. The most famous case: http://testimonials.silvermedicine.org/content/australia-hiv-iv.html This treatment was done with a product called Silver Colloid Australia. 2 ml of 6% h2o2 were combined with a mediocre but CLEANLY produced CS ( 2 ml ) and injected into the body. This is a truly safe ( when done with full knowledge and proper preparation ), effective treatment, which can be repeated over the long term, and which keeps the amount of silver injected into the body at a minimum. I hate to say this, but I can imagine many circumstances where it may be possible that injecting tetrasil at those high volumes might kill someone. As an example, what if an individual also had a late stage, undiagnosed lymphatic cancer? It is feasible that this might literally result lethal shock. The idea of finding a delivery method for silver ions is an excellent one, and I've always been interested in this line of research. However, this particular company has avoided many issues, and then mysteriously backed down ( at least publically ) from their hype. I've seen it before. It my not be government conspiracy but rather, unwillful negligence. It's possible to cause hemmoroghing by injecting 10 ml of isolated silver into the bloodstream if the body has not been acclimated to silver via oral use, although the circumstances surrounding this have not been identified, and the single case that I am aware of was not lethal, just scary, and occured because the practitioner in question didn't follow instructions. Tetrasil had to modify their original protocol once since it was first used, I'm betting that they've found they HAVE to reduce the amount used in the bloodstream for safety reasons, and I bet that lower amounts of tetrasil are not effective. Enter: Isolated Silver. Best Regards, Jason -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHealth via mind over body
Ole Bob, Was the EIS/DMSO applied topically with the wet bandage covered with Saran wrap, or taken orally? TIA, paula - Original Message - From: Robert Berger bober...@swbell.net My neighbor had shingles and I did not know it. The medics cured him over several months but he has nerve end pains. I gave him an 80/20 mix of EIS and DMSO and that relieved the pains. Ole Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: Silver is Safer
jrowl...@nctimes.net 12/19/03 5:17 PM Wrote: Yep---in Sun City, the senior community just outside of Phoenix, nearly every car is white. Having lived in a variety of climates, one consideration for the choice of a white or silver colored car would be the reduced heat load on the AC unit in a predominately sunny climate. AND -- they don't show the dirt as much. Jack Be Nice -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSHealth via mind over body
Hi Richard, I've considered using the rest of the Beck Protocal and will pursue it as funds allow... especially for the magnetic pulser. I bought a Terminator zapper which hasn't seemed to help any but I have not yet tried the blood zapper. Thanks for V's address. I will file it for future reference. Ted --- Richard Harris yrfti-at-cfl.rr.com |SilverList| 0tpkhmuui...@sneakemail.com wrote: Hi SilverTedEBear, Sorry about your poor CS experience--but feel you need to inquire about the REST of the BECK PROTOCOL and extend your treatments to include the other 3 parts. Have you tried Zapping? If not, I recommend you contact V who builds Godzila/Beck zappers and who has a wealth of information to willingly share upon your request--V's address: web...@powerwebs.com built mine for $85 + $5 SH. I have NO financial interest in this, but a desire to share good, helpful info with everyone who seeks it and has a need. Happy Holiday Good New Year! Sincerely, Richard Harris, 56 yr FL Pharmacist -Original Message- From: SilverTedEBear [mailto:r75jqs...@sneakemail.com] Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 10:06 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSHealth via mind over body I've been looking at this myself but am having trouble connecting. Has anyone had any experience/success with this? I'm looking for something else to add to the arsenal as I am drinking at least a quart of CS a day and still having my herpes outbreaks!! :/ Ted --- Marshall Dudley mdudley-at-execonn.com |SilverList| pxvwhmurx...@sneakemail.com wrote: For those with an interest in this route to health: http://www.immunics.org/ Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHealth via mind over body
Hi Mary Lou, I don't plan on giving up just yet. I'd just hoped that I'd see some sign of progress with it by now. I think the severity may be slightly diminished, but only slightly and the frequency is still high. Ted --- Mary Lou Borgert mborgert-at-worldnet.att.net |SilverList| snb2hpagc...@sneakemail.com wrote: on 12/19/03 7:06 PM, SilverTedEBear at r75jqs...@sneakemail.com wrote: You must continue with c/s for at least 6 months. former shingles survivor I've been looking at this myself but am having trouble connecting. Has anyone had any experience/success with this? I'm looking for something else to add to the arsenal as I am drinking at least a quart of CS a day and still having my herpes outbreaks!! :/ Ted --- Marshall Dudley mdudley-at-execonn.com |SilverList| pxvwhmurx...@sneakemail.com wrote: For those with an interest in this route to health: http://www.immunics.org/ Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSTetrasil
Jason: you are so incredibly knowledgeable...there is a dentist who wishes to inject ozone or maybe peroxide..can't remember..into my infected jaw below the molar I am to have extracted next week...is it possible to do this? Can one do it themselves as she charges over a 100 dollars for each injection and I am pretty cash poor right now..looking for alternatives but don't want to lose my body over this.. CS has helped the pain of the tooth as I wait for the app't with the dentist but I'm feeling still systemically rather awful. Any ideas from anyone much appreciated... Am still trying to figure out where to get dmso from and if one mixes dmso with h2o2 in equal amounts and swishes it as a mouthwash, then spit it out... I love colloidal silver but its expensive and I have to try to buy the cs maker somehow. Best wishes, Donna
Re: CSHealth via mind over body
In a message dated 12/20/2003 12:25:17 PM Central Standard Time, yr...@cfl.rr.com writes: web...@powerwebs.com built mine for $85 + $5 SH. Hi Richard: I tried that site and I could only find someone who sold web page designs..what did I do wrong? Donna
CSPicture for 12-20-2003
I only posted one picture. http://www.fugitt.com/files/spid1211/spid1220c.jpg All the older pictures will be listed with the link... www.fugitt.com/files/spid1211 Note the small black spots at 12, 3, and 6 o'clock. These are spots created by the high voltage. The probes were in fact pressed in relatively hard. The spots may be blood like blood blisters. Not sure if this is from the pressure of the voltage. There is also a spot at 9 o'clock but it does not show very well. The drainage has been heavier and clearer for 48 hours. It appears to be slowing down a bit since noon today. 48 hours was tonight at 7pm. By 5 PM tomorrow, I will decide if I get another shock treatment. I wonder if I am the first member of the silver list to be bitten by a spider. Wayne -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSmouth infections
Hi Donna: Thank you, I try to apply everything at my disposal to acquire accurate and beneficial knowledge; it's not always possible, but the silver list folks have certainly made that job easier over the past few years. Concerning your Jaw: I'd like to direct your attention to the following: http://testimonials.silvermedicine.org/content/abcess-tooth-infected.html You really don't want to mess with a mouth infection for too long, they can turn lethal. As far as injecting h2o2 into an abscess? I don't know the strength to use. It would be a painful process without local anesthesia. I have had excellent results, as the above link shows ( one example out of 3 ), using silver, h2o2 and healing clay. While this may sound strange, I recommend using a silver/h2o2 formulation in both ears. In one situation, the co-researcher was having a very hard time knocking down the infection... and it was bad. I use a very strong combination to deal with these types of situations: 3-5 drops of 35% h2o2 in 4 ounces of 85% ionic CS ( in some cases, I force a greater particulate content, which, via electrolysis, results in a poorer quality CS, but a greater reaction with H2O2 ). I make the solution at the time of use, and this solution cannot be swallowed unless it is in the mouth for five minutes or so, preferably held in the mouth as long as possible. If one does, it will give a very bad upset stomach. Waiting 5-7 minutes, I've never seen the h2o2 upset stomach occur with cs h2o2. The reaction between the silver particles and the H2o2 really does appear to drive the silver ions... In essence, we've thus created a silver ion delivery mechanism, which certainly works with the throat, the mouth, and ears. Anyway, in this situation, good results were not achieved until the ear on the side of the infection was treated with h2o2 and silver. The effect was obvious, nearly immediate, quite surprising, and it did involve a small measure of increased pain in the form of a burning sensation ( which usually doesn't occur ) that lasted a few hours. The burning sensation shot down from the ear into the jaw within a minute of filling the ear with h2o2/CS. The healing clay was a critical ingredient. However, there are great logistical problems involved with trying to use a healing clay pack within the mouth. While pelotherapy is usually not painful, in the case were there is a great deal of inflammation in an area where there are sensitive nerves, it is a painful treatment. The clay begins to PULL the infection to the surface, if enough clay magma is able to be placed at the site. A slight increase in swelling often occurs prior to a reduction in inflammation. If the area CAN be drained, subsequently, the H2O2 and silver can reach the tissues. However, this can involved in continually replacing the clay in the mouth, as saliva dilutes it. Not to mention it is difficult to apply and keep the clay in the correct area. In the case above, an oral surgeon would have been required. The oral surgeon wouldn't touch the mouth until the infection was reduced, the co-researcher had no insurance and could not afford the antibiotics ( wisdom tooth partially grown in, abscessed ). It was either deal with the infection, or wait until the situation became a real medical emergency for treatment. Again, please understand that a mouth infection can travel to the heart rapidly. That is all the information I have as present on the subject. Warm Regards, Jason - Original Message - From: alopez...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 5:42 PM Subject: Re: CSTetrasil Jason: you are so incredibly knowledgeable...there is a dentist who wishes to inject ozone or maybe peroxide..can't remember..into my infected jaw below the molar I am to have extracted next week...is it possible to do this? Can one do it themselves as she charges over a 100 dollars for each injection and I am pretty cash poor right now..looking for alternatives but don't want to lose my body over this.. CS has helped the pain of the tooth as I wait for the app't with the dentist but I'm feeling still systemically rather awful. Any ideas from anyone much appreciated... Am still trying to figure out where to get dmso from and if one mixes dmso with h2o2 in equal amounts and swishes it as a mouthwash, then spit it out... I love colloidal silver but its expensive and I have to try to buy the cs maker somehow. Best wishes, Donna --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.554 / Virus Database: 346 - Release Date: 12/20/2003
Re: CSTetrasil
Jason: What about the salve for external use? It seems like that should be safe, and maybe effective??? Del - Original Message - From: Jason Eaton ey...@cox.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 4:24 PM Subject: CSTetrasil Greetings, all: I've been following the Tetrasil issue for quite some time. I'm suspecting that there are serious dangers associated with use, although this is only a suspicion, and it's based on one unqualified statement: Tetrasil can only be injected into the body one time, and only one time. Nowhere have I found the information as to why. I assume that the liver takes a BIG hit with the single dose. Now, when these people inject this product into the body, they are bringing the total blood content of silver up to 40PPM. That is bordering on absolute insanity. The company states that the product is non-toxic, and that has to be an outright lie. If it was not toxic, as claimed, then there shouldn't be an issue with injecting it a second time. The patented molecule ( a silica fused molecule, and thus a crystal ) acts as a delivery device that is triggered by pathogens. The makers claim that it is the energy release that is responsible for effectiveness. So you have a biologically inert substance going into the body, and then exploding when it contacts trigger material. What's left is a bunch of oxygen, in who knows what form, and a bunch of silver ions, both being delivered with a kenetic force that likely cannot be predicted in every situation. Now, we can get a similiar response by the addition of H2O2 and HIGH quality silver injected into the body at far lower levels, with complete safety, provided that one knows what one is doing. The most famous case: http://testimonials.silvermedicine.org/content/australia-hiv-iv.html This treatment was done with a product called Silver Colloid Australia. 2 ml of 6% h2o2 were combined with a mediocre but CLEANLY produced CS ( 2 ml ) and injected into the body. This is a truly safe ( when done with full knowledge and proper preparation ), effective treatment, which can be repeated over the long term, and which keeps the amount of silver injected into the body at a minimum. I hate to say this, but I can imagine many circumstances where it may be possible that injecting tetrasil at those high volumes might kill someone. As an example, what if an individual also had a late stage, undiagnosed lymphatic cancer? It is feasible that this might literally result lethal shock. The idea of finding a delivery method for silver ions is an excellent one, and I've always been interested in this line of research. However, this particular company has avoided many issues, and then mysteriously backed down ( at least publically ) from their hype. I've seen it before. It my not be government conspiracy but rather, unwillful negligence. It's possible to cause hemmoroghing by injecting 10 ml of isolated silver into the bloodstream if the body has not been acclimated to silver via oral use, although the circumstances surrounding this have not been identified, and the single case that I am aware of was not lethal, just scary, and occured because the practitioner in question didn't follow instructions. Tetrasil had to modify their original protocol once since it was first used, I'm betting that they've found they HAVE to reduce the amount used in the bloodstream for safety reasons, and I bet that lower amounts of tetrasil are not effective. Enter: Isolated Silver. Best Regards, Jason -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSMouth infections
Good evening, Jason. I was just reading the re-print of Albert Searle's (1920) text, The Use Of Colloids In Health And Disease. Searle of course gives strong recomendation for the use of colloidal silver. But I was struck by Searle's discussion of colloidal manganese beginning on page 90 of his book. If I am reading Searle's account correctly, he endorses colloidal manganese more than colloidal silver for the treatment of deep abscesses. I don't know of any discussions of manganese colloid on this List, and the pro's and con's of using it. Would you happen to know how it compares to CS, from today's standpoint? Thank you in advance for any assistance you can give on this question! Best regards, Matthew
Re: CSmouth infections
In a message dated 12/20/2003 8:22:44 PM Central Standard Time, ey...@cox.net writes: trying to use a healing clay pack within the mouth Is healing clay something I can purchase in a healh food store...I would like to try this as it is becoming a desperate affair...I just have to find something that knock this thing out of my mouth.. Many warm thoughts and gratitude for your kind input, Donna
Re: CSMouth infections
Hi Matthew: Thanks for posting those links by the way! I don't have any experience with manganese, but it is certainly a fascinating idea. Keep in mind that Manganese has been cited as being tumerogenic and a mutagen, but only at doses that far exceed what I'd expect we'd use in isolated form. http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/rtecs/oo8d8678.html I see products for sale on the market in the 100 + PPM range, that claim to be a pure product, but I imagine it would be the same with manganese as CS: We're not going to find a quality nor stable isolated product that isn't really a compound of some sort. Perhaps someone else on the list has some experience! Best Regards, Jason - Original Message - From: Matthew McCann PE To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 6:42 PM Subject: CSMouth infections Good evening, Jason. I was just reading the re-print of Albert Searle's (1920) text, The Use Of Colloids In Health And Disease. Searle of course gives strong recomendation for the use of colloidal silver. But I was struck by Searle's discussion of colloidal manganese beginning on page 90 of his book. If I am reading Searle's account correctly, he endorses colloidal manganese more than colloidal silver for the treatment of deep abscesses. I don't know of any discussions of manganese colloid on this List, and the pro's and con's of using it. Would you happen to know how it compares to CS, from today's standpoint? Thank you in advance for any assistance you can give on this question! Best regards, Matthew --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.554 / Virus Database: 346 - Release Date: 12/20/2003
Re: CSmouth infections
Hi Donna: Many health food stores carry at least one brand of green clay, usually Aztec Healing Clay which is-- by a long shot-- not my favorite product. If you can find a bulk source, you can usually pick up a 50 lb bag for between $10.00 ( at a quarry ) - $50.00 ( a large ceramic store often carries pure bentonite in technical grade ). Every clay from every different quarry, and sometimes the clay in different locations of the same quarry, is different. However, all green bentonites at least share the same general properties. I wouldn't recommend anyone start their experiences with healing clays with such a tricky situation. However, you're welcome to view: http://www.eytonsearth.org ( green healing clays ) and http://www.burulibusters.com - ( graphic images, beware ) for further information. At Eytons' Earth, we study green healing clays, including bentonite ( montmorillonite ) and now Illite. At Buruli Busters, Thierry et all show the study of French Montmorillonite and French Illite against Buruli Ulcerations. The images on their site are quite graphic in nature; I have further astounding images concerning these treatments that are too graphic for public viewing. Thanks to Thierry's presentation to the WHO, the World Health Organization now lists green clay as a viable treatment for Buruli Ulcers. Let's all just HOPE we don't get this type of bacterial infection on our continents. Transmission of the micobacteria responsible for this afflication into our own ecosystems is possible. One day, I'm finally going to talk them into employing CS in their protocol, as there are some symptoms to the treatment that I think CS could address extremely successfully. Best Regards, Jason - Original Message - From: alopez...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 6:55 PM Subject: Re: CSmouth infections In a message dated 12/20/2003 8:22:44 PM Central Standard Time, ey...@cox.net writes: trying to use a healing clay pack within the mouth Is healing clay something I can purchase in a healh food store...I would like to try this as it is becoming a desperate affair...I just have to find something that knock this thing out of my mouth.. Many warm thoughts and gratitude for your kind input, Donna --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.554 / Virus Database: 346 - Release Date: 12/20/2003
Re: CSRe: [ silvermedicine.org ] Colloidal gold
Many thanks. I am aware of extremes and will gauge my physical reactions to CG. Dan - Original Message - From: Jason Eaton ey...@cox.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 3:26 PM Subject: Re: CSRe: [ silvermedicine.org ] Colloidal gold Hi Dan: Thanks for the report. I'm not a colloidal gold expert, but please remember that there is a history behind gold as used in medicine. While the gold products used in clinical practice are gold compounds, and not at all like the product you are making, I thought you would like to consider: 1. That there is a tight dosage window with gold use in the body: If the body adsorbs too much gold, the beneficial effects are reversed; in other words, it can have the exact opposite effect that a smaller dose would ( see any good drug handbook ). I think it would take quite a bit low PPM CG to achieve the same effects as the sulfur or salt gold compounds, but it's just good to keep in mind, in the event that you experience benefit, then all of the sudden you experience nuerological effects, increase in arthritic pain, etc, that one may just simply have to decrease the dosage amount. Best Regards, Jason - Original Message - From: fig...@comcast.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com; silverdatawebs...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 10:50 AM Subject: CSRe: [ silvermedicine.org ] Colloidal gold I am making it with good results. I took a leap of faith and plunked down $400 with Pride Labs. I feel more energetic and positive. My mind is more clear. I will have to get a better read on dosage but right now take 4-8 oz per day of 30ppm colloidal gold. Drink it first thing in the morning. I have made 75ppm gold and used this too. The instructions with the Pride Labs machine say this is still non clumping colloidal gold My unit makes the CG via polarized HVDC. Not HVAC, which is what pushed me over the line to buy it and not try to make my own unit with a neon sign transformer. CG production: An above water arc is created between gold wire and the water. Best I can tell, the gold atoms arc into (migrate into) the water creating the colloidal gold. My take is: The less junk food you eat, the better the CG effect is. It's a bit subtle so will be missed by a heavy meat eater. This is my theory. Thus CG is not a universal cure all. You have to do your bit too with the CG. My guess is someone who prays and meditates will feel a stronger CG effect. Same for Chi Gung and Tai Chi. I would love to take CG on a five day fast when the weather warms up. Call up the Pride labs support number in Oregon for more info, they are friendly and informative. Go to their website. The unit makes a quart of colloidal gold (silver and copper wires were also included in kit) in 15-30 minutes. Comes with a ppm meter so you know how powerful the solution is. Weighs about 3 pounds Dan ___ - Original Message - From: Dan To: silverdatawebs...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 11:21 AM Subject: [ silvermedicine.org ] Colloidal gold Anybody making colloidal gold with good results ? Or do we have to spend $40 an ounce on the internet ! Dan Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT --- Our website address: http://www.silvermedicine.org Posting Rules: * No political posts, even health related, are permitted that are not directly related to another list members personal request or health condition. * No off-topic posting is permitted * All posts should contain language that is respectful toward other people. * Other health related information may be shared, provided that the information directly deals with another list member's health and well being. * No products or promotional material may be submitted as a part of messages. * Tag lines, within reason, are permitted at the end of email messages. * Violation of the above policy may result in immediate removal from the silvermedicine.org list without warning. No medical advice of any kind is given through this forum, and therefore no information shared is to be construed as such. Messages and materials shared are offered as personal experience, research, and discussion information for research purposes. As always, a licensed health-care professional should be consulted in all matters of illness and health. The FDA has listed all colloidal silver products as unclassified drugs. The FDA has no information on the safety or effectiveness of colloidal silver to treat any condition. To view the archives and membership area, goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/silverdatawebsite/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: silverdatawebsite-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com To contact the moderator
Re: CSHealth via mind over body
Hi Ted, Go to Amazon.com and order Dr. Morton Walker's book DMSO Nature's Healer. It has allot to say about Herpes. DMSO can go allot of things that CS will do and together they are very formidable. Ole Bob SilverTedEBear wrote: I've been looking at this myself but am having trouble connecting. Has anyone had any experience/success with this? I'm looking for something else to add to the arsenal as I am drinking at least a quart of CS a day and still having my herpes outbreaks!! :/ Ted -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSTetrasil
I am currently treating an abcessed molar that my dentist wants me to have extracted with DMSO and CS. I purchase the DMSO from my vet or a veterinary supply like www.jeffers.com . I am mixing it 10% with Cs 10ppm. That is I take 9 ml of CS 10ppm and mix it with 1 ml of DMSO. Then I rub it on the gums around the tooth. It is definitely helping ease the pain, hence it must be taking down the inflammation and hopefully the infection as well. I have been doing this for about two weeks but not every day as I forget. When the pain returns it reminds me. Garnet On Sat, 2003-12-20 at 19:42, alopez...@aol.com wrote: Jason: you are so incredibly knowledgeable...there is a dentist who wishes to inject ozone or maybe peroxide..can't remember..into my infected jaw below the molar I am to have extracted next week...is it possible to do this? Can one do it themselves as she charges over a 100 dollars for each injection and I am pretty cash poor right now..looking for alternatives but don't want to lose my body over this.. CS has helped the pain of the tooth as I wait for the app't with the dentist but I'm feeling still systemically rather awful. Any ideas from anyone much appreciated... Am still trying to figure out where to get dmso from and if one mixes dmso with h2o2 in equal amounts and swishes it as a mouthwash, then spit it out... I love colloidal silver but its expensive and I have to try to buy the cs maker somehow. Best wishes, Donna -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHealth via mind over body
What is EIS? On Sat, 2003-12-20 at 16:23, sol wrote: Ole Bob, Was the EIS/DMSO applied topically with the wet bandage covered with Saran wrap, or taken orally? TIA, paula - Original Message - From: Robert Berger bober...@swbell.net My neighbor had shingles and I did not know it. The medics cured him over several months but he has nerve end pains. I gave him an 80/20 mix of EIS and DMSO and that relieved the pains. Ole Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com K
Re: CSHealth via mind over body
Ted, I have a DC friend that buys 12 gallons of my EIS every year, and he reported that one person that came in had shingles. He wrapped him with wet EIS bandages and covered that with saran wrap around the chest. In four days the man was cured. My neighbor had shingles and I did not know it. The medics cured him over several months but he has nerve end pains. I gave him an 80/20 mix of EIS and DMSO and that relieved the pains. Ole Bob Mary Lou Borgert wrote: on 12/19/03 7:06 PM, SilverTedEBear at r75jqs...@sneakemail.com wrote: You must continue with c/s for at least 6 months. former shingles survivor I've been looking at this myself but am having trouble connecting. Has anyone had any experience/success with this? I'm looking for something else to add to the arsenal as I am drinking at least a quart of CS a day and still having my herpes outbreaks!! :/ Ted -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
