Re: CSCataracts
Dear Richard, I so appreciate your very kind reply. What I wasn't clear about in my post is that this is my fur daughter. IOW, my dog. :-) The compassion in your post really touched me. Thanks again, Raine Richard Harris wrote: Hi Raine, Sorry to read of your daughter's eye problems. If you can't afford the proper eye care for her, please Get In Touch with Your Local Lions Club. Lions, of which I'm a proud member for over 50 years, is the largest Service Club in the world and our primary funcetion is Sight Conservation. Each year, we help needy individuals like your daughter. Please give us a chance. Read my Site and Blogspot and let me kbnow if I can help. Sincerely, __ Richard Harris, 57 Year FL Pharmacist 448 West Juniata Street Clermont, FL 34711 www.rharrisinc.com http://www.seasilver.com/reh http://healthandhealing.blogspot.com http://healthandhealing.blogspot.com/
Re: CSMy First Batch
Thank you for your insight, MA. I will definitely take this into consideration for my next batch. This is all a learning experience for me. For those who stop brewing when the beard/fuzz appears, what ppm do you end up with? Thanks, Raine marmar...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 4/20/2005 4:26:37 AM Central Standard Time, rainelov...@sbcglobal.net writes: I had to clean the fuzzy beard off once during the 1 hour brew-time (I was brewing 32 oz, shooting for 10 ppm. It isn't likely that one hour of brew time will produce 10 ppms in 32 ozs. of DW with 27 volts of current. More likely that you will need at least 4-5 hours of brew time. In fact, it would likely take that much time to produce 10 ppms in _16_ ozs. of DW -- and you're using twice that amount. FWIW MA
CSCO2 and EIS
All previous posts on the composition of EIS have ignored the CO2 factor. I have explored this and have some interesting information. Water at room temperature will equalize with the CO2 present in the air. Although air contains about 350 or so ppm of CO2, the water will absorb .58 ppm of CO2 before equalizing with the air. The math to figure this out can be found at http://www.chem.usu.edu/~sbialkow/Classes/3650/Carbonate/Carbonic%20Acid.html and other sites list the concentration as about .5 ppm. Pure water that has equalized with the CO2 in the air will have a pH of 5.65. I have found references that report that normal rain is about 5.7, so this jives pretty well. If you leave water in a glass, the surface will quickly equalize with the air, but diffusion of the CO2 to below the surface is quite slow. So if EIS is produced from water that has stabilized with the air and not stirred, the amount of silver carbonate will be about 3.6 ppm. However if the water is agitated so that the surface layer is continually mixed with the rest of the volume, then as CO2 is consumed by forming a carbonate, more will be absorbed from the air. If this is taken to the limit, then up to 32 ppm of silver carbonate (the solubility limit) can be formed. The unanswered question is just how fast CO2 will be absorbed from the air. I believe there is an easy way to tell with any particular setup. First take distilled water and check the pH. If it is close to 7 then great, if not, then heat it up to boiling to drive off the CO2. Once cooled (without stirring), check the pH and it should be around 7. Be sure to heat in plastic in a microwave, or glass on the stove, any metals will likely add trace contaminates that will affect the pH or act as a buffer invalidating the results. Now place the water into the device for making EIS and run it with NO electrodes. Sample the pH over time and record how fast it changes. This will give the information as to how fast CO2 is absorbed from the air with any particular stirring arrangement. Once we have that information, it should be relatively easy to figure out the concentration of silver carbonate formed by any device when making EIS. Although simply leaving the electrodes, and not running current through them may appear to be the same, any silver oxide on the electrodes can dissolve and affect the pH. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCS pneumonia protocol with air brush
Tackling drug-resistant pneumonia with colloidal silver The procedure outlined here will work on any lung pathogen including anthrax; In fact, an M.D. in the USA has been using this type of procedure for 10 years and is proposing it for anthrax. Here it is, straight from the lab: The original problem manifested as a result of our fruitless search for some effective procedure for attacking the bilateral form of those bacterial pneumonias which have proved non-responsive to all of the antibiotic protocols. We have evaluated colloidal silver and many methods of its employment. Only one method was ever rapidly effective in an essentially terminal evaluation. The methodology employed in these experiments included the following protocol: Using a very fine particle nebulizer, a 25 psi to 35 psi, regulated O2 supply as the gas drive and a colloidal silver mixture compounded as follows: Starting with 8 ounces of 10 ppm colloidal silver (warmed to approx. 105 degrees F.) dissolve MSM in this solution to the point of saturation (until no more will go into solution); next add 20 per cent by volume of DMSO to the parent mixture. The complete report: http://philaero-wellness.com/content/view/160/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.17 - Release Date: 4/19/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSCS pneumonia protocol with air brush
I'm sure that an enterprising individual could help several people by assembling and selling for a reasonable fee a complete apparatus for airbrush nebulizing minus the oxygen bottle. I for one would rather pay for this and save the time it would take to find, procure, and assemble the hoses and regulators etc... I'm sure I'm not alone. I'm perfectly capable of doing all this myself, but have not taken the time and probably won't until an alternative minded loved one is faced with a serious condition. I would like to have the apparatus before that happens. I realize this list is not for the commercial ventures of this nature, but an announcement of this availability and request for private email inquiries would seem to be appropriate. Maybe Mike would have a more preferred way of providing this service, but however it's done I would be interested in paying someone to provide this. Thanks, Vince -Original Message- From: Stuff [mailto:st...@laguna.com.mx] Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 10:28 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSCS pneumonia protocol with air brush Tackling drug-resistant pneumonia with colloidal silver The procedure outlined here will work on any lung pathogen including anthrax; In fact, an M.D. in the USA has been using this type of procedure for 10 years and is proposing it for anthrax. Here it is, straight from the lab: The original problem manifested as a result of our fruitless search for some effective procedure for attacking the bilateral form of those bacterial pneumonias which have proved non-responsive to all of the antibiotic protocols. We have evaluated colloidal silver and many methods of its employment. Only one method was ever rapidly effective in an essentially terminal evaluation. The methodology employed in these experiments included the following protocol: Using a very fine particle nebulizer, a 25 psi to 35 psi, regulated O2 supply as the gas drive and a colloidal silver mixture compounded as follows: Starting with 8 ounces of 10 ppm colloidal silver (warmed to approx. 105 degrees F.) dissolve MSM in this solution to the point of saturation (until no more will go into solution); next add 20 per cent by volume of DMSO to the parent mixture. The complete report: http://philaero-wellness.com/content/view/160/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.17 - Release Date: 4/19/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSHeartworm treatment
I'm new to the list and would like to know if anyone has used colloidal silver as a heartworm preventative for dogs. We have to Bichon Frise boys and don't want to give them the traditional monthly treatments: They haven't had any for about five years now, but I do worry that they could be be infected eventually. The holistic products I've found so far contain black walnut hulls and other things that the boys, as we call them, are allergic to. I use colloidal silver on any skin irritation that develops and have very good luck. My husband and I have taken it orally, too, and found it beneficial. But, I can't find anything online that discusses treating dogs with it to prevent heartworm and other parasites. Thanks in advance for any information you can provide. Kind regards, Elaine Kansas City, MO -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHeartworm treatment
Elaine wrote: I'm new to the list and would like to know if anyone has used colloidal silver as a heartworm preventative for dogs. We have to Bichon Frise boys and don't want to give them the traditional monthly treatments: They haven't had any for about five years now, but I do worry that they could be be infected eventually. The holistic products I've found so far contain black walnut hulls and other things that the boys, as we call them, are allergic to. Well silver will not kill the adults worms directly. They may starve the worms if it can kill the bacteria they need for digestion, but I am not aware of anyone trying it for that. As for the microfilaria, whether it will kill them directly or not is a good question. I use colloidal silver on any skin irritation that develops and have very good luck. My husband and I have taken it orally, too, and found it beneficial. But, I can't find anything online that discusses treating dogs with it to prevent heartworm and other parasites. Generally it is not effective against multicelled parasites. Marshall Thanks in advance for any information you can provide. Kind regards, Elaine Kansas City, MO -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSheartworms
Diatomacious earth works well with nearly all parasites. It can be mixed into the pets food. It can usually be purchased from a swimming pool supply, as well as nurseries and feed stores. I might suggest steering clear of the stuff from the garden center and possibly the swimming pool supply. You need a food grade or feed grade diatomacious earth which has not been treated by heating. Apart from that caveat, I've heard good thinges about D.E. as well. Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCO2 and EIS
Hi Marshall, I had agreed with you to run our SG7 without the electrodes but with the vigorous stirring the submergible pump provides. It causes the water surface to be in constant motion so if the water increased conductivity by absorbing Co2 it should be measurable by using the PWT meter. It didn't change much.. starting reading was 1.8-2.0 uS as measured with three meters. End reading was 2.7-2.9 uS. This was in a gallon of DW. I ran the pump for about 18 hours and the reading increased by less than 1 microsiemen. Since I can produce ionic readings of 45-60 uS using only distilled water and silver, it appears the reading must be silver ions since they are the only thing the meter can read other than the little bit of Co2. I didn't drive any Co2 off and do not have a pH measurement for you. My pH meter may or may not be in calibration at this point so the reading would be meaningless. The water was taken directly from a gallon of supermarket DW. Trem - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 8:16 AM Subject: CSCO2 and EIS All previous posts on the composition of EIS have ignored the CO2 factor. I have explored this and have some interesting information. Water at room temperature will equalize with the CO2 present in the air. Although air contains about 350 or so ppm of CO2, the water will absorb .58 ppm of CO2 before equalizing with the air. The math to figure this out can be found at http://www.chem.usu.edu/~sbialkow/Classes/3650/Carbonate/Carbonic%20Acid.html and other sites list the concentration as about .5 ppm. Pure water that has equalized with the CO2 in the air will have a pH of 5.65. I have found references that report that normal rain is about 5.7, so this jives pretty well. If you leave water in a glass, the surface will quickly equalize with the air, but diffusion of the CO2 to below the surface is quite slow. So if EIS is produced from water that has stabilized with the air and not stirred, the amount of silver carbonate will be about 3.6 ppm. However if the water is agitated so that the surface layer is continually mixed with the rest of the volume, then as CO2 is consumed by forming a carbonate, more will be absorbed from the air. If this is taken to the limit, then up to 32 ppm of silver carbonate (the solubility limit) can be formed. The unanswered question is just how fast CO2 will be absorbed from the air. I believe there is an easy way to tell with any particular setup. First take distilled water and check the pH. If it is close to 7 then great, if not, then heat it up to boiling to drive off the CO2. Once cooled (without stirring), check the pH and it should be around 7. Be sure to heat in plastic in a microwave, or glass on the stove, any metals will likely add trace contaminates that will affect the pH or act as a buffer invalidating the results. Now place the water into the device for making EIS and run it with NO electrodes. Sample the pH over time and record how fast it changes. This will give the information as to how fast CO2 is absorbed from the air with any particular stirring arrangement. Once we have that information, it should be relatively easy to figure out the concentration of silver carbonate formed by any device when making EIS. Although simply leaving the electrodes, and not running current through them may appear to be the same, any silver oxide on the electrodes can dissolve and affect the pH. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.17 - Release Date: 4/19/2005
Re: CSCO2 and EIS
Trem wrote: Hi Marshall, I had agreed with you to run our SG7 without the electrodes but with the vigorous stirring the submergible pump provides. It causes the water surface to be in constant motion so if the water increased conductivity by absorbing Co2 it should be measurable by using the PWT meter. It didn't change much.. starting reading was 1.8-2.0 uS as measured with three meters. End reading was 2.7-2.9 uS. This was in a gallon of DW. Since equilibrum of CO2 with the atmostphere is at about .58 ppm, if you started with no CO2 in the water and ended up with .58 ppm, which is the maximum unless you are breathing on it, that should increase the conductivity by about .6 to .8 or so in conductance. That is pretty well what you got. I ran the pump for about 18 hours and the reading increased by less than 1 microsiemen. Since I can produce ionic readings of 45-60 uS using only distilled water and silver, it appears the reading must be silver ions since they are the only thing the meter can read other than the little bit of Co2. Not necessarily. Remember that the stability point of CO2 in the water is about .58 ppm. You seem to have experimentally come up with about the same value. Now as you make EIS, the CO2 forms a carbonate, and the equilibrum shifts toward non saturation. So additional CO2 can be absorbed into the water while making EIS. How much can get made will depend on how fast it gets absorbed, and how long it is run for. That is why the experiments you are doing are important, they can answer these questions. But I think we may need to use pH instead of conductivity for good sensitivity of the absortion rate. I didn't drive any Co2 off and do not have a pH measurement for you. My pH meter may or may not be in calibration at this point so the reading would be meaningless. The water was taken directly from a gallon of supermarket DW. I have found that most DW right out of the jug seems to be pretty close to a pH of 7, so not much CO2 is in there. Plus your measurements showed an increase of CO2 concentration of between .5 and 1 ppm, and since the max is .58 ppm, you had to have started with a pretty low amount. I have a pH meter and will try some tests tonight, but I will have to stir the water by hand in my tests. Marshall Trem - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 8:16 AM Subject: CSCO2 and EIS All previous posts on the composition of EIS have ignored the CO2 factor. I have explored this and have some interesting information. Water at room temperature will equalize with the CO2 present in the air. Although air contains about 350 or so ppm of CO2, the water will absorb .58 ppm of CO2 before equalizing with the air. The math to figure this out can be found at http://www.chem.usu.edu/~sbialkow/Classes/3650/Carbonate/Carbonic%20Acid.html and other sites list the concentration as about .5 ppm. Pure water that has equalized with the CO2 in the air will have a pH of 5.65. I have found references that report that normal rain is about 5.7, so this jives pretty well. If you leave water in a glass, the surface will quickly equalize with the air, but diffusion of the CO2 to below the surface is quite slow. So if EIS is produced from water that has stabilized with the air and not stirred, the amount of silver carbonate will be about 3.6 ppm. However if the water is agitated so that the surface layer is continually mixed with the rest of the volume, then as CO2 is consumed by forming a carbonate, more will be absorbed from the air. If this is taken to the limit, then up to 32 ppm of silver carbonate (the solubility limit) can be formed. The unanswered question is just how fast CO2 will be absorbed from the air. I believe there is an easy way to tell with any particular setup. First take distilled water and check the pH. If it is close to 7 then great, if not, then heat it up to boiling to drive off the CO2. Once cooled (without stirring), check the pH and it should be around 7. Be sure to heat in plastic in a microwave, or glass on the stove, any metals will likely add trace contaminates that will affect the pH or act as a buffer invalidating the results. Now place the water into the device for making EIS and run it with NO electrodes. Sample the pH over time and record how fast it changes. This will give the information as to how fast CO2 is absorbed from the air with any particular stirring arrangement. Once we have that information, it should be relatively easy to figure out the concentration of silver carbonate formed by any device when making EIS. Although simply leaving the electrodes, and not running current through them may appear to be the same, any silver oxide on the electrodes can dissolve and affect the pH. Marshall -- The Silver
Re: CSHeartworm treatment
Elaine, I have a 7 year old Bichon... I've never given him any heartworm medication and he's just fine. He's never been sick a day in his life I stopped all vaccinations (with the exception of rabies) 4 years ago. CS will kill any single celled organism it comes in contact with... don't know if that applies to heart worms though. Bob - Original Message - From: Elaine ela...@kc.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 11:07 AM Subject: CSHeartworm treatment I'm new to the list and would like to know if anyone has used colloidal silver as a heartworm preventative for dogs. We have to Bichon Frise boys and don't want to give them the traditional monthly treatments: They haven't had any for about five years now, but I do worry that they could be be infected eventually. The holistic products I've found so far contain black walnut hulls and other things that the boys, as we call them, are allergic to. I use colloidal silver on any skin irritation that develops and have very good luck. My husband and I have taken it orally, too, and found it beneficial. But, I can't find anything online that discusses treating dogs with it to prevent heartworm and other parasites. Thanks in advance for any information you can provide. Kind regards, Elaine Kansas City, MO -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSHeartworm treatment
Elaine, I give my bulldogs and labs CS every morning for their first bowl of drinking water. My understanding with CS is it kills parasites, fungus, and bacteria on contact. Dogs get heartworms from mosquitoes and I'm not sure that CS would help prevent heartworms disease. If you have allot of mesquites in your area I would continue with a heartworm prevention medicine. I still use Ivomec injection on my dogs for heartworm prevention. I also drink the CS and have never felt better in my whole life. I believe that it has killed most of the parasites and bad bacteria in my body. Good Luck with your boys! Gwlynda Country Ridge Bulldogs -Original Message- From: Elaine [mailto:ela...@kc.rr.com] Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 1:07 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSHeartworm treatment I'm new to the list and would like to know if anyone has used colloidal silver as a heartworm preventative for dogs. We have to Bichon Frise boys and don't want to give them the traditional monthly treatments: They haven't had any for about five years now, but I do worry that they could be be infected eventually. The holistic products I've found so far contain black walnut hulls and other things that the boys, as we call them, are allergic to. I use colloidal silver on any skin irritation that develops and have very good luck. My husband and I have taken it orally, too, and found it beneficial. But, I can't find anything online that discusses treating dogs with it to prevent heartworm and other parasites. Thanks in advance for any information you can provide. Kind regards, Elaine Kansas City, MO -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSWhich Plastics Are Safe?
This article explains which plastics leach chemicals into water or other liquids. http://www.rense.com/general64/plasti.htm -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHeartworm treatment
- Original Message - But, I can't find anything online that discusses treating dogs with it to prevent heartworm and other parasites. Probably because no one has shown it (EIS) to be effective in preventing/killing adult or juvenile heartworm. Preventing carrying mosquitoes from infecting your dog w/ heartworm, I don't believe can be achieved using a silver solution. Langsley Russell, an owner of the silverpets list, has a page all about HW and the chances your dog can get it here: http://www.bullovedbulldogs.com/heartworm.htm Rich Adams -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSstomach bacteria and probiotics-dogs and heartworm
I had several comments to make. I am always interested in any article about probiotics because people seem to have various responses to them. Lactobacilli bacteria is becomming very popular esp due to the rise of candida infections. It seems to help alot of people but i have problems with it. When I use probioitcs on a regular basis, I tend to get sores in my mouth. Fermented foods esp apple cidar vineager causes major candida flares for me. My sister uses it during allergy season and says it really helps her asthma. I have also heard of other people saying it really helped their candida so it helps to hear all opinions. I agree with the idea of using bifido bacteria and think it might be a better choice since it affects both the lower and upper intestine. ONe comment on inulin-I have read just the opposite about it. It can be very helpful for feeding good bacteria, but there has been concern that it can also feed bad bacteria causing an overgrowth in the wrong kind of bacteria growing in the gut. A friend of mine had some major problems after using a probiotic with FOS in it. She had been tested and the test revealed an overgrowth of bad bacteria. Just my opinion and if someone has another view, I would welcome hearing it. I am also cautious with flea preventatives as I have known people who attribute their pets illness after using advantaqe flea protectant. I wonder about the heart worm drugs also. Maybe liquid olive leaf would help keep those worms away if the dogs could tolerate it. ONe of the vets that I have talked to advises me to stay away from dog parks because dogs can pick up alot being in those areas where alot of dogs frequent. My dog doesnt seem to enjoy the company of other dogs anyway and prefers the companionship of the family who she considers to be herpack __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSheartworms
Diatomacious earth works well with nearly all parasites. It can be mixed into the pets food. It can usually be purchased from a swimming pool supply, as well as nurseries and feed stores. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHeartworm treatment
I give my horses diatomaceous earth as a natural wormer. A lot of horsemen do the same. Sally bbanever bbane...@earthlink.net wrote: Elaine, I have a 7 year old Bichon... I've never given him any heartworm medication and he's just fine. He's never been sick a day in his life I stopped all vaccinations (with the exception of rabies) 4 years ago. CS will kill any single celled organism it comes in contact with... don't know if that applies to heart worms though. Bob - Original Message - From: Elaine To: Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 11:07 AM Subject: CSHeartworm treatment I'm new to the list and would like to know if anyone has used colloidal silver as a heartworm preventative for dogs. We have to Bichon Frise boys and don't want to give them the traditional monthly treatments: They haven't had any for about five years now, but I do worry that they could be be infected eventually. The holistic products I've found so far contain black walnut hulls and other things that the boys, as we call them, are allergic to. I use colloidal silver on any skin irritation that develops and have very good luck. My husband and I have taken it orally, too, and found it beneficial. But, I can't find anything online that discusses treating dogs with it to prevent heartworm and other parasites. Thanks in advance for any information you can provide. Kind regards, Elaine Kansas City, MO -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: CSHeartworm treatment
Hi, Elaine, Well, I read that microfilaria are one-celled organisms, and as such, CS ought to nail them. We don`t have much heartworm in Utah, but even so my 3 Pugs get CS in their water, or occasionally a bowl of straight CS. So far so good. Marshalee I'm new to the list and would like to know if anyone has used colloidal silver as a heartworm preventative for dogs. We have to Bichon Frise boys and don't want to give them the traditional monthly treatments: They haven't had any for about five years now, but I do worry that they could be be infected eventually. The holistic products I've found so far contain black walnut hulls and other things that the boys, as we call them, are allergic to. I use colloidal silver on any skin irritation that develops and have very good luck. My husband and I have taken it orally, too, and found it beneficial. But, I can't find anything online that discusses treating dogs with it to prevent heartworm and other parasites. Thanks in advance for any information you can provide. Kind regards, Elaine Kansas City, MO -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCO2 and EIS
pH of commercial distilled water must vary by area? Back when I was still using it, I tested several jugs, I believe and all were around pH 5. Is the silver carbonate harmful? Is it inactive as far as pathogens are concerned? What does it actually mean in practical terms if there is silver carbonate in the EIS? TIA, sol Marshall Dudley wrote: I have found that most DW right out of the jug seems to be pretty close to a pH of 7, so not much CO2 is in there. Plus your measurements showed an increase of CO2 concentration of between .5 and 1 ppm, and since the max is .58 ppm, you had to have started with a pretty low amount. I have a pH meter and will try some tests tonight, but I will have to stir the water by hand in my tests. Marshall -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.10.1 - Release Date: 4/20/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSheartworms
Diatomacious earth is great for intestinal worms, but it canot get to the heart. Marshall Terry Chamberlin wrote: Diatomacious earth works well with nearly all parasites. It can be mixed into the pets food. It can usually be purchased from a swimming pool supply, as well as nurseries and feed stores. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCO2 and EIS
I am not sure it means anything, except maybe why some people have made (or think they have made) EIS with an ionic content over 30 ppm despite the limited solubility of silver hydroxide and silver oxide. Silver carbonate has a solubility of 32 ppm, so in conjunction with silver hydroxide and silver oxide, it should be possible to have an ionic content of about 60 ppm. I believe that silver carbonate will convert to silver chloride upon contact with stomach acid, so the end result should not be significatnly differerent than if there is no silver carbonate. But until more research is done I can't say for sure. Marshall sol wrote: pH of commercial distilled water must vary by area? Back when I was still using it, I tested several jugs, I believe and all were around pH 5. Is the silver carbonate harmful? Is it inactive as far as pathogens are concerned? What does it actually mean in practical terms if there is silver carbonate in the EIS? TIA, sol Marshall Dudley wrote: I have found that most DW right out of the jug seems to be pretty close to a pH of 7, so not much CO2 is in there. Plus your measurements showed an increase of CO2 concentration of between .5 and 1 ppm, and since the max is .58 ppm, you had to have started with a pretty low amount. I have a pH meter and will try some tests tonight, but I will have to stir the water by hand in my tests. Marshall -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.10.1 - Release Date: 4/20/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSheartworms
http://www.bullovedbulldogs.com/heartworm.htm http://mwr.nasb.navy.mil/vet%20clinic.htm Excuse my ignorance, but I see no stage of the lifecycle of a heartworm that would be susceptible to DE? sol Terry Chamberlin wrote: Diatomacious earth works well with nearly all parasites. It can be mixed into the pets food. It can usually be purchased from a swimming pool supply, as well as nurseries and feed stores. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.10.1 - Release Date: 4/20/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSFaith laser
Hi Faith, I bought a laser light too...turned off the room light and shook the jar a little and could see the tiny silver specks, hope that helps. Debbie
CSquestion on SilverGen
I need some support please that my choice of a Silver Gen 6 colloidal silver maker was a good one. I have taken Trem's suggestion of asking the list. The first unit I received had to be sent back due to a problem they have had with a part that does not show up until the SG 6 is used. This caused me a whole weekend of distress about what did I do wrong to wreck this expensive device? However, Trem reassured me that it was a defective part and I breathed a sigh of relief. I received my replacement and finally got to make a couple of quarts of silver. The first quart set at medium strength measures 3 ppm on my Hanna TDS which Trem says should be doubled or more for the real count. The second quart on the highest setting measures 6 which doubled is 12 or more. On the website it says the Silver Gen will make up to 20 ppm. I have ordered one of the testers which Trem says is accurate yesterday from him so I will know the actual strength. I purchased a Silver Gen 6 as a person told me that I could make a gallon of 20 ppm over night and it would shut off automatically. This was confirmed by Trem before I purchased. I have to watch and turn off the inexpensive CS maker I already had which makes clear 20 ppm (10 on my TDS) CS easily in my gallon pickle jars without having to do anything with the electrodes which are the Canadian silver coins. An electronics repair friend of mine made it for me and it wouldn't pass the safety test so is on the dangerous side and requires strict awareness:) I haven't a clue about the electrical specifications as it just plugs into the wall receptacle. Trem tells me I am going to have to adjust space between the electrodes and the depth of the electrodes in the water to obtain a higher ppm in the SG6. This was not something I thought I would have to do when I purchased a professionally made unit and don't have to do with my cheap unit. Would someone share their experience and satisfaction with the Silver Gen 6 and hopefully bolster my sagging spirits around this device? Has anyone else had a problem making the higher ppms with the Silver Gen 6? Do you have to move the electrodes and how do you have them to make the higher ppm? Thank you in advance for your support Kallie Miller -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSFaith laser
Thanks Debbie .. I'll try. FSF From: Deborah Gerard devorah...@sbcglobal.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSFaith laser Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:35:04 -0700 (PDT) Hi Faith, I bought a laser light too...turned off the room light and shook the jar a little and could see the tiny silver specks, hope that helps. Debbie _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSHeartworm Preventive
Here's a link to an FDA report on the effectiveness of giving a lower dose of Interceptor for preventive. Safeheart dosage is 1/5 the dose amt. of Interceptor and is effective against heartworms (though at the lower dose it is not effective against hookworms, roundworms, etc...) Safeheart is not to my knowledge marketed in the US, but you can use Interceptor at the Safeheart dose. For example, a 50lb. dog could be given the 10lb. dose to prevent heartworms. Unless a dog is also at constant high risk of getting hookworms, roundworms, and/or whipworms along with the risk of heartworm, then it makes no sense to give 5 times the necessary dose. Don't know if CS/EIS is capable of killing the microfilaria in the bloodstream, which is how heartworm is 'prevented', but it couldn't hurt. On the other hand, black and green walnut hulls can be very toxic; personally I wouldn't risk giving those over the 1/5 Interceptor. Laura H., TX _http://www.fda.gov/cvm/FOI/1365.htm_ (http://www.fda.gov/cvm/FOI/1365.htm)
Re: CSHeartworm Preventive
In a message dated 4/21/2005 8:29:42 PM Pacific Standard Time, gotoh...@aol.com writes: green walnut hulls can be very toxic; personally I wouldn't risk giving those over the 1/5 Interceptor. I give both my two dogs and one cat a drop each day of green walnut tincture which I made. I have been doing this for at least 5 years as recommended by DR Clark in The Cure For All Diseases. Brickey
CS Archives are back. Messages are gone.
Good news. The archives are back up. For how long is the question. Apparently all postings since Monday, 18 April, are missing. Maybe they will arrive later, maybe not. Unfortunately, my email software discards the digest, so I am missing all the messages posted since sometime on Monday. If they don't show up, would some kind souls consider checking the archives later and reposting if their message didn't make it? We wouldn't want these pearls of wisdom to be lost to mankind forever. Would we?? Mike Monett -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS pneumonia protocol with air brush
I second the motion. I would be wiling to purchase a low-cost but well-made assembly. JBB On Friday, Apr 22, 2005, at 01:52 Asia/Tokyo, Vince Richter wrote: I'm sure that an enterprising individual could help several people by assembling and selling for a reasonable fee a complete apparatus for airbrush nebulizing minus the oxygen bottle. I for one would rather pay for this and save the time it would take to find, procure, and assemble the hoses and regulators etc... I'm sure I'm not alone. I'm perfectly capable of doing all this myself, but have not taken the time and probably won't until an alternative minded loved one is faced with a serious condition. I would like to have the apparatus before that happens. I realize this list is not for the commercial ventures of this nature, but an announcement of this availability and request for private email inquiries would seem to be appropriate. Maybe Mike would have a more preferred way of providing this service, but however it's done I would be interested in paying someone to provide this. Thanks, Vince -Original Message- From: Stuff [mailto:st...@laguna.com.mx] Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 10:28 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSCS pneumonia protocol with air brush Tackling drug-resistant pneumonia with colloidal silver The procedure outlined here will work on any lung pathogen including anthrax; In fact, an M.D. in the USA has been using this type of procedure for 10 years and is proposing it for anthrax. Here it is, straight from the lab: The original problem manifested as a result of our fruitless search for some effective procedure for attacking the bilateral form of those bacterial pneumonias which have proved non-responsive to all of the antibiotic protocols. We have evaluated colloidal silver and many methods of its employment. Only one method was ever rapidly effective in an essentially terminal evaluation. The methodology employed in these experiments included the following protocol: Using a very fine particle nebulizer, a 25 psi to 35 psi, regulated O2 supply as the gas drive and a colloidal silver mixture compounded as follows: Starting with 8 ounces of 10 ppm colloidal silver (warmed to approx. 105 degrees F.) dissolve MSM in this solution to the point of saturation (until no more will go into solution); next add 20 per cent by volume of DMSO to the parent mixture. The complete report: http://philaero-wellness.com/content/view/160/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.17 - Release Date: 4/19/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
