CSCS for Jessica
Hi, Jessica, For very cheap CS try Rich who is on the Silver Pets List on Yahoo Groups. http://home.kc.rr.com/richadams/cstrade.html Take care, Cindy
Re: CSTopics...
## A big part of it all is people [Like myself ] just hitting reply without always looking to see where the reply goes. Being on multiple silver lists can do that. Ode At 02:10 PM 11/7/2007 +0005, you wrote: I agree, when is this vaccine talk going to be put to rest? This is a CS group talk, not vaccine. Diane M Smitty: Aren't non-CS topics supposed to be on the silver-off-topic-list ? I don't routinely object to some fraction of the list's traffic being off topic at any time. In fact, 50% CS-related is doing well, often- times, as long as overall volume stays moderate to light. Mike Devour silver-list owner [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPrill water and CS
If a Magnesium Oxide beads tossed into a container can actually purify water as well as distillation or a well maintained multi stage Manganese sand ion exchange de-ionizing filter tower...then, yea. Somehow, I don't think Prill Beads will do that...but not hard to find out. Get a conductivity meter. If it reads .2 [very pure] to 4 uS [not great but generally useable ] either before, or after, you made that water into Prill Water...use it. http://www.thewolfeclinic.com/prillbeads.html recent newspaper article says that right at the dam, Lake Mead has some of the purest, most pristine water on Earth, somewhat like glacial water. When you fly over Lake Mead, it is no longer green Most of the glacier water seen from a distance in Alaska is... green...LOADED with minerals the glacier ground up out of the rock beds. The purity of glacier ice itself depends a lot on which day it snowed and what ice layer is being used. It has everything it the air did on that day, sometimes it was even deadly. The Colorado River under the dam varies between crystal clear and so thick that it's like thin mud [ Can't quite drink it, can't quite walk on it] and too danged cold to swim in for more than a minute or so. [I'll not be forgetting that shock for a while ] ode At 02:35 PM 11/7/2007 +, you wrote: I have a question for you. When making cs, can I use prill water, I make at home, instead of steam distilled water I buy at the store??? Mary -- Original message from Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net: -- -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMaking CS
_http://keelynet.com/biology/colloid.htm_ (http://keelynet.com/biology/colloid.htm) Those are vintage instructions from *way* back, including a grain-of- wheat bulb as a crude current limiter and recommending the use of SALT to make things happen faster. Do *NOT* use these instructions as written. The use of salt has been discouraged for years now. Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS and H2O2
At 10:55 AM 11/7/2007 -0600, you wrote: Wow- that is one cool picture. Do you add h2o2 to every batch? I only add it when it is turning color. Maybe I could add it everytime. ## I do whatever occurs to me at the time. ode -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSimon aka Charles is gone...
Faith concludes: We cause as much pain in the world when we take offense as when we give it. Very interesting summation of the idea, Faith. Dee writes: I agree totally with you Mary Ann, civility costs nothing and it is surely a positive thing to make people feel good rather than the opposite... Civility costs effort, more or less depending on your personality. grin Mary Ann says: The measure of any group of people in society -- cyber-society included -- is the level of behavior of the least of that society. If it is required of polite people to become thick-skinned and tolerate bad behavior, then everyone loses Yes, and somewhere between these two legitimate ideals -- perfect civility and perfect immunity -- is the reality we live in. Anybody who wants to launch into great dramas every time somebody else says something that can be stretched enough to be interpreted as offensive will be just as disruptive as Simon/Charles, as well as fail to achieve any of their own goals for their participation. We've all seen these personalities. They usually don't hang around very long. On the other hand, if you stubbornly persist in injecting unnecessary little personal jabs at people while ostensibly helping them, you're going to create a problem, too. Still, the reason I'm most disappointed in Charles, is that this list is, in essence, my property, the product of my labor. The atmosphere I foster, the effort I put into making it a welcoming place and keeping the discussion on an even keel, is what will make the group attractive to people and allow them to use it to meet their own needs and encourage them to help each other. You don't come in here and expect to be able to dictate standards of behavior! I'm astonished that an ostensible libertarian would be so disrespectful of another person's property rights! And be persistently aggressive, too. Both are antithetical to libertarian philosophy. sigh So I agree with everyone who says you shouldn't let yourself be bothered by idiots on the 'net. But that doesn't mean I'm obliged to let anyone come in here and stealthily corrupt the atmosphere I'm trying to create with hostile and aggressive behavior. Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCan I get a response to this?
Also it says 'silver salts' which is NOT what we have in EIS. Dee ---Original Message--- From: zoe w Date: 11/07/07 04:29:50 To: Deborah Gerard Subject: Re: CSCan I get a response to this? I'm no expert but right off I see silver nitrate capsules This is NOT CS.Im sure others on the list can give you more and better details. zoe it has been shown now that parenterally administered silver salts can accumulate in neurons and glial cells of the brain and spinal cord. The amount of silver deposited in the various tissues is directly proportional to the blood supply of the respective organ. It can't be stated any more clearly than that. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: CSWith all the types of silver.....
Nice outline. Bravo Mike. Faith G - Original Message - From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 11:13 PM Subject: Re: CSWith all the types of silver. Dear Liz, Welcome aboard! You write: And along comes someone like me who is looking for information and it just gripes my rear to have to try to wade through all the malarkey for the real story. Sigh. Maybe I'm the one who is crazy? No, not at all! You're just exploring the wonderful, chaotic world of alternative health and medicine. Lacking an over-controlling central authority, such as the FDA/AMA, etc., it is left to *US* to do our own research and choose among many options. Somewhere between the rampant hucksterism and outright fraud at one extreme, and the fanatical debunkers at the other, you will find people who can tell you what works. Hopefully here, in fact! The good news is that along with the chaos comes ultimate freedom and access to far more options than exist within the mainstream. There are several classes of silver preparation that are generically referred to as colloidal silver, whether the term is really descriptive or not: 1) Mild silver protein (MSP) 2) Chemically precipitated silver 3) Solutions of silver compounds 4) High voltage electrolytic or sputtering processes 5) Low voltage electrolytic process The first, MSP, is based on a standard preparation that was in common use before there were pharmaceutical antibiotics. Some of these are well made, but expensive, and with their higher concentration have been associated with argyria when over used. The chemical precipitates and compounds suffer from uncertainty as to what is in them -- from too much to too little to just food coloring -- and have also been associated with cases of argyria. These are most often seen in health-food stores. Some of the high volume high voltage production processes seem to produce a product of reasonable (low) concentration that is fairly stable and affordable and may be worth buying under some circumstances. What most of us have settled on is the last one. The product is clear, usually colorless, maybe 5 to 10 ppm, and simply and inexpensively produced at home. Basic equipment to make this product can be home-built, and very well controlled and reliable generators are available for less than $200 (US). You will quickly recoup your investment in equipment when making perfectly fine CS for the cost of distilled water and some electricity. You'll be free to use it as generously as you need, and you'll also have the security of knowing exactly what goes into it. You'll see the term EIS used here, which stands for Electrically Isolated Silver. It was coined by some of our members to distinguish what we make from the spectrum of other products being sold. It highlights the fact that it is produced by an electrolytic process, and consists of a low concentration of isolated particles and ions of silver in pure distilled water without additives or impurities. I'm sure other folks will fill in the blanks of this overview. No doubt I'm leaving out, mis-stating, or oversimplifying some things, but I hope it'll confirm some of what you've already begun to find out and save you some confusion and time wasted. Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSimon aka Charles is gone...
I agree totally with you Mary Ann, civility costs nothing and it is surely a positive thing to make people feel good rather than the opposite, no matter how clever one may think one is, or how dumb one may think the other person is! Dee ---Original Message--- From: marmar...@bellsouth.net Date: 07/11/2007 17:43:08 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSSimon aka Charles is gone... Boy -- I've got to respectfully disagree with this Mike. And pardon me for speaking out --I've been sitting on my hands thinking that I should be the one to be silent now. But that's what's wrong with our world -- the ones who object remain silent. The measure of any group of people in society -- cyber-society included -- is the level of behavior of the least of that society. If it is required of polite people to become thick-skinned and tolerate bad behavior, then everyone loses because as we become that way we also become insensitive to our own behavior towards others. Isn't that a slippery slope?
Re: CSBest type of Vitamin C to buy
I always thought you *had* to ingest bioflavenoids with Vit C otherwise it wasn't bio-available. Dee ---Original Message--- From: Marshall Dudley Date: 07/11/2007 17:36:33 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBest type of Vitamin C to buy faith gagne wrote: What on earth is a 'complex' of vitamin C? Is that like a 'complex' of prune juice? Or a 'complex' of the brazil nut? l-ascorbic acid IS vitamin C, period the end amen. Not really. Vitamin C is pretty well anything ascorbate. If it is hydrogen, then it is ascorbic acid, and if sodium, then it is sodium ascorbate. Natural vitamin C is normally in the form of a metal ascorbate I believe. Only the man made C is pure ascorbic acid. Also it is believed that the bioflavoids are very important, and those show up in things like rose hips, but not in the artificial C. Marshall Someone must have their hand in your pocket. Faith G - Original Message - From: laquerenci...@sbcglobal.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 10:05 AM Subject: CSBest type of Vitamin C to buy Hi Richard - I've decided that taking something like the Super Quercitin formulated by Bluebonnet is best for me since its the best sort of C Complex I can come up with. Lots of people follow Linus Pauling's work on L-ascorbic acid xclusively and he was an awfully smart guy. However I'm increasingly convinced by holistic argunments that the body needs a complex of VitCs to assimilate properly. I am a bit concerned though about whatever degree of heat might be used in the processing, since heat tends to destroy VitC. Its pretty hard to find information on how vitamins are processed, in my experience. my 2cents, DByron -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSimon aka Charles is gone...
I do not agree at all. I do not demand that others treat me exactly the way I need to be treated in order for me to feel good about myself. This places quite a burden on friends, neighbors and the entire world, and it does not require me to make any effort at all to understand where other people are coming from. To insist that all others dance in attendance to my emotional wants and needs places a HUGE demand on the rest of the world.To automatically assume that the other person sees me as dumb is a construct of my own thinking designed to keep my demands in place and up front.Nobody lives between my ears but me. I'm in there all by myself so I cannot blame other people for what emerges from my own thinking.. I may not always agree with what the other person has to say and I may not even like what the other person has to say, but I'd damned well better love their RIGHT to say it because I cannot muzzle the next guy without muzzling myself at the same time. We cause as much pain in the world when we take offense as when we give it. Faith G - Original Message - From: Dee To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 8:22 AM Subject: Re: CSSimon aka Charles is gone... I agree totally with you Mary Ann, civility costs nothing and it is surely a positive thing to make people feel good rather than the opposite, no matter how clever one may think one is, or how dumb one may think the other person is! Dee ---Original Message--- From: marmar...@bellsouth.net Date: 07/11/2007 17:43:08 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSSimon aka Charles is gone... Boy -- I've got to respectfully disagree with this Mike. And pardon me for speaking out --I've been sitting on my hands thinking that I should be the one to be silent now. But that's what's wrong with our world -- the ones who object remain silent. The measure of any group of people in society -- cyber-society included -- is the level of behavior of the least of that society. If it is required of polite people to become thick-skinned and tolerate bad behavior, then everyone loses because as we become that way we also become insensitive to our own behavior towards others. Isn't that a slippery slope?
Re: CSBest type of Vitamin C to buy
That is news to me. Faith G - Original Message - From: Dee To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 8:24 AM Subject: Re: CSBest type of Vitamin C to buy I always thought you *had* to ingest bioflavenoids with Vit C otherwise it wasn't bio-available. Dee
frustrations and insults was RE: CSSimon aka Charles is gone...
True thing ..the Soul -the Atma- is never offended, is untouchable indeed YET: the body, with the mind as its loyal servant (that's what mind shouls be really) has to learn that until it has learned it suffers from pain, frustrations and insults FaithStFrancis Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 17:39:47 -0600From: li...@choctaw-oklahoma.usto: silver-l...@eskimo.comsubject: Re: CSSimon aka Charles is gone... A newbie here. I would just like to point out that a person is offended by his/her own choice, no matter how many times it happens or how many people it happens to. I personally chose not to be offended by anyone or anything. Makes life a lot more pleasurable. Linda ---Original Message--- From: M. G. Devour Date: 11/6/2007 10:42:58 AM To: Simon Jester; silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSSimon aka Charles is gone... faith gagne wrote: Simon I think you meant well. Of course he means well. He tries to help. He can't resist abrasive personal jabs while doing so. People get mad at him. He denies being responsible for the results. Yes, in any specific case it is the choice of his victim to be offended or not. The fact that this happens again and again proves the problem is his, not theirs. The world is as it is. It will not change for Charles. A is A, dude. Thank you Faith... the fact is, I do mean well - and everyone here would most likely not recognize me if they spoke to me in person. Sure, and your readers don't see the expression on your face or hear the tone of your voice, or have your posture and gestures to read. If you behaved in person the way you come across in text, you'd have been poked in the nose often enough to cause you to make the effort to be pleasant to people. Too many people take candor and/or succinctness for rudeness. You excuse rudeness as candor and carelessness for succinctness. It takes effort to communicate in this medium, which you choose not to make. No worries... my skin is quite thick enough that Mike's public chastisements don't bother me... and I do understand where he's coming from, and don't necessarily disagree... Thank you, I'm glad you understand. One of the requirements of participation in this forum is compliance with my direction. If you won't cooperate with me and your behavior remains disruptive I will exclude you from the group. ... its just not me. You've made your choice. Be well, Mike Devour silver-list owner [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com _ Explore the seven wonders of the world http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=7+wonders+worldmkt=en-USform=QBRE
Re: CSWith all the types of silver.....
wordsjunkie wrote: *Hi:)* ** *I'm new to the list.* ** *Someone recommended colloidal silver to me for colds and flu, so I fired up the computer and started looking for information.* ** *I've been surfing the net and reading, and I'm probably more confused than I was to begin with.* ** *There is ionic silver, and colloidal silver and clear silver . There's 10ppm that claims it works as well as 500ppm.* ** *There are people who claim patented ways of processing so it's used by the body better.* ** *My head is just spinning!* ** *How the heck do I know what to buy or not to buy? There is so much conflicting information I'm totally lost. Can someone please tell me what kind of silver I can safely take and where to get it at a reasonable price. The prices are outrageous. If it were a whole price of silver like a ring or something I could see them charging the prices they do, but for little particles of silver that you can't see with your naked eye in some filtered water. Give me a break!* ** *So I stumbled over this list and hopefully someone can tell me what's what. Please?* ** *Thank you* ** *Liz* We recommend making your own, instead of buying it. That way you know what you are getting, and it cost less than $1 a gallon. What is referred to as colloidal silver is what we often call EIS ( electro isolated silver ) here. When made properly it will be crystal clear and will contain about 85% ionic silver, and 15% colloid. Yellow is also ok, but not as good as clear. The maximum that true colloidal silver can be made and stay stable is around 25 ppm. Those who are selling something that they claim is 500 ppm are not selling colloidal silver, or lieing about its concentration. They are likely selling MSP or mild silver protein, which is NOT colloidal silver, and can cause argyria, and is only about 1/50 as effective as true colloidal silver (that is 500 ppm MSP is about as effective as 10 ppm CS ). You might take a look at http://silver-lightning.com/theory.html which is as close to the actual truth as I have been able to get on colloidal silver. There are a number of good generators that do stirring, current limiting and concentration monitoring available, and members of this group can give recommendations if you want to go that route. If you have any specific questions feel free to ask them here. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Re: CSCan I get a response to this?
Thanks. I know that there are some equine diseases around here that can and sometimes are transmitted to humans via mosquitoes, it is a concern here in the summer. They use mosquito controls here because of that and other illnesses transmitted by the pesky little bugs. On Nov 7, 2007, at 1:46 PM, marmar...@bellsouth.net wrote: -- Original message from Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com: -- That is great info. That is Equine P...? what? Equine Protozoal Myeloencephalitis -- inflammation of the brain and/or spinal cord from a protozoal infection. Anyone know if it works for heartworms in dogs? Don't know the answer to that -- sorry. MA -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSimon aka Charles is gone...
I do not agree at all. I do not demand that others treat me exactly the way I need to be treated in order for me to feel good about myself. This places quite a burden on friends, neighbors and the entire world, and it does not require me to make any effort at all to understand where other people are coming from. To insist that all others dance in attendance to my emotional wants and needs places a HUGE demand on the rest of the world.To automatically assume that the other person sees me as dumb is a construct of my own thinking designed to keep my demands in place and up front.Nobody lives between my ears but me. I'm in there all by myself so I cannot blame other people for what emerges from my own thinking.. I may not always agree with what the other person has to say and I may not even like what the other person has to say, but I'd damned well better love their RIGHT to say it because I cannot muzzle the next guy without muzzling myself at the same time. We cause as much pain in the world when we take offense as when we give it. Faith G Well put. . . .Faith. . . . As Archie Bunker would say. . . . Case Closed ! Smitty -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSEquine to Human diseases
-- Original message from Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com: -- Thanks. I know that there are some equine diseases around here that can and sometimes are transmitted to humans via mosquitoes, it is a concern here in the summer. Hi Kathryn -- I'm unaware of any diseases that can be transmitted to people from horses via mosquitos. Could you be thinking of West Nile? This is transmitted to people via mosquitos -- but comes from mosquitos that have bitten infected birds. Horses are subject to infection this way too, but are an end-recipient, like people -- not a transmittor. MA
Re: CSPrill water and CS
Okay Ode. Can you help me out with this? I have standing Prill water made with RO. When I put my Hanna PWT in it reads 1 . There are spaces after the 1. Does it mean I have 1.0 uS? It is is 1.0 why are there so many spaces after the 1? I am going to make some Prill water using distilled. It has to sit for 24 hours though. After that I will take a measurement. S-Max ---Original Message--- From: Ode Coyote Date: 11/8/2007 9:20:09 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSPrill water and CS If a Magnesium Oxide beads tossed into a container can actually purify water as well as distillation or a well maintained multi stage Manganese sand ion exchange de-ionizing filter tower...then, yea. Somehow, I don't think Prill Beads will do that...but not hard to find out. Get a conductivity meter. If it reads .2 [very pure] to 4 uS [not great but generally useable ] either before, or after, you made that water into Prill Water...use it. http -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSimon aka Charles is gone...
Thank you. Faith G - Original Message - From: Smitty papad...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 11:52 AM Subject: Re: CSSimon aka Charles is gone... I do not agree at all. I do not demand that others treat me exactly the way I need to be treated in order for me to feel good about myself. This places quite a burden on friends, neighbors and the entire world, and it does not require me to make any effort at all to understand where other people are coming from. To insist that all others dance in attendance to my emotional wants and needs places a HUGE demand on the rest of the world.To automatically assume that the other person sees me as dumb is a construct of my own thinking designed to keep my demands in place and up front.Nobody lives between my ears but me. I'm in there all by myself so I cannot blame other people for what emerges from my own thinking.. I may not always agree with what the other person has to say and I may not even like what the other person has to say, but I'd damned well better love their RIGHT to say it because I cannot muzzle the next guy without muzzling myself at the same time. We cause as much pain in the world when we take offense as when we give it. Faith G Well put. . . .Faith. . . . As Archie Bunker would say. . . . Case Closed ! Smitty -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSWith all the types of silver.....
Hi there Marshall:) Thank you for the links:) Oh yeah, I think I'd prefer to make it myself! At least I'd know what's in it that way, and if it's cheaper to go that route, then point the way! LOL. I'm all for saving money since it doesn't grow on trees at my house. I was looking for another good antiviral agent since Sabucol deliveries are at a stand still. I have a 5 year old grand daughter in kindergarten and I'm sure you know all about the stuff they can bring home. Sigh. I need something safe and effective that everyone in the family can take. I'd like to be able to make enough to use around the house and kitchen as well as for cold and flu season. Thank you again:) Liz - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 9:50 AM Subject: Re: CSWith all the types of silver. wordsjunkie wrote: *Hi:)* ** *I'm new to the list.* ** *Someone recommended colloidal silver to me for colds and flu, so I fired up the computer and started looking for information.* ** *I've been surfing the net and reading, and I'm probably more confused than I was to begin with.* ** *There is ionic silver, and colloidal silver and clear silver . There's 10ppm that claims it works as well as 500ppm.* ** *There are people who claim patented ways of processing so it's used by the body better.* ** *My head is just spinning!* ** *How the heck do I know what to buy or not to buy? There is so much conflicting information I'm totally lost. Can someone please tell me what kind of silver I can safely take and where to get it at a reasonable price. The prices are outrageous. If it were a whole price of silver like a ring or something I could see them charging the prices they do, but for little particles of silver that you can't see with your naked eye in some filtered water. Give me a break!* ** *So I stumbled over this list and hopefully someone can tell me what's what. Please?* ** *Thank you* ** *Liz* We recommend making your own, instead of buying it. That way you know what you are getting, and it cost less than $1 a gallon. What is referred to as colloidal silver is what we often call EIS ( electro isolated silver ) here. When made properly it will be crystal clear and will contain about 85% ionic silver, and 15% colloid. Yellow is also ok, but not as good as clear. The maximum that true colloidal silver can be made and stay stable is around 25 ppm. Those who are selling something that they claim is 500 ppm are not selling colloidal silver, or lieing about its concentration. They are likely selling MSP or mild silver protein, which is NOT colloidal silver, and can cause argyria, and is only about 1/50 as effective as true colloidal silver (that is 500 ppm MSP is about as effective as 10 ppm CS ). You might take a look at http://silver-lightning.com/theory.html which is as close to the actual truth as I have been able to get on colloidal silver. There are a number of good generators that do stirring, current limiting and concentration monitoring available, and members of this group can give recommendations if you want to go that route. If you have any specific questions feel free to ask them here. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSWith all the types of silver.....
Thank you Mike:) Yes, this certainly clears up some things for me. And yes, I think making it myself would be better economically than buying it. If I can use it in place of chemicals to degerm the kitchen and house that's even better! Thanks again:) Liz - Original Message - From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 10:13 PM Subject: Re: CSWith all the types of silver. Dear Liz, Welcome aboard! You write: And along comes someone like me who is looking for information and it just gripes my rear to have to try to wade through all the malarkey for the real story. Sigh. Maybe I'm the one who is crazy? No, not at all! You're just exploring the wonderful, chaotic world of alternative health and medicine. Lacking an over-controlling central authority, such as the FDA/AMA, etc., it is left to *US* to do our own research and choose among many options. Somewhere between the rampant hucksterism and outright fraud at one extreme, and the fanatical debunkers at the other, you will find people who can tell you what works. Hopefully here, in fact! The good news is that along with the chaos comes ultimate freedom and access to far more options than exist within the mainstream. There are several classes of silver preparation that are generically referred to as colloidal silver, whether the term is really descriptive or not: 1) Mild silver protein (MSP) 2) Chemically precipitated silver 3) Solutions of silver compounds 4) High voltage electrolytic or sputtering processes 5) Low voltage electrolytic process The first, MSP, is based on a standard preparation that was in common use before there were pharmaceutical antibiotics. Some of these are well made, but expensive, and with their higher concentration have been associated with argyria when over used. The chemical precipitates and compounds suffer from uncertainty as to what is in them -- from too much to too little to just food coloring -- and have also been associated with cases of argyria. These are most often seen in health-food stores. Some of the high volume high voltage production processes seem to produce a product of reasonable (low) concentration that is fairly stable and affordable and may be worth buying under some circumstances. What most of us have settled on is the last one. The product is clear, usually colorless, maybe 5 to 10 ppm, and simply and inexpensively produced at home. Basic equipment to make this product can be home-built, and very well controlled and reliable generators are available for less than $200 (US). You will quickly recoup your investment in equipment when making perfectly fine CS for the cost of distilled water and some electricity. You'll be free to use it as generously as you need, and you'll also have the security of knowing exactly what goes into it. You'll see the term EIS used here, which stands for Electrically Isolated Silver. It was coined by some of our members to distinguish what we make from the spectrum of other products being sold. It highlights the fact that it is produced by an electrolytic process, and consists of a low concentration of isolated particles and ions of silver in pure distilled water without additives or impurities. I'm sure other folks will fill in the blanks of this overview. No doubt I'm leaving out, mis-stating, or oversimplifying some things, but I hope it'll confirm some of what you've already begun to find out and save you some confusion and time wasted. Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPrill water and CS
Using Prill Water to make CS imparts magnesium and possibly other salts to the CS mix, not a good idea unless you like turning blue. (I am a Prill water user) - Original Message - From: S-Max s...@emotap.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 11:32 AM Subject: Re: CSPrill water and CS Okay Ode. Can you help me out with this? I have standing Prill water made with RO. When I put my Hanna PWT in it reads 1 . There are spaces after the 1. Does it mean I have 1.0 uS? It is is 1.0 why are there so many spaces after the 1? I am going to make some Prill water using distilled. It has to sit for 24 hours though. After that I will take a measurement. S-Max ---Original Message--- From: Ode Coyote Date: 11/8/2007 9:20:09 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSPrill water and CS If a Magnesium Oxide beads tossed into a container can actually purify water as well as distillation or a well maintained multi stage Manganese sand ion exchange de-ionizing filter tower...then, yea. Somehow, I don't think Prill Beads will do that...but not hard to find out. Get a conductivity meter. If it reads .2 [very pure] to 4 uS [not great but generally useable ] either before, or after, you made that water into Prill Water...use it. http -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CScivility
Every elder member of my family would not agree that everyone has the right to be rude to others. The basis of civilization is civility: World Book Dictionary: civility, noun, pl. -ties. 1. polite behavior; courtesy; consideration. Ex. Thank you for your civility in replying to my letter so promptly. (SYN) politeness. 2. an act or expression of politeness or courtesy. 3. (Archaic.) the state of being civilized; freedom from barbarity; civilization. 4. (Archaic.) a. polite or liberal education; training in the humanities. b. good breeding; culture; refinement. civilization, noun. 1. civilized condition; advanced stage in social development. This has nothing to do with anyone's emotions: rather, it depends on us to try to restrain our emotions to avoid putting an unnecessary burden on others. There are many ways to state a point of view, and being considerate of another person is our duty as a citizen. Having a spirited debate does not mean dumping on people. Feeling passionate about a subject demands that we be even more vigilant concerning our words, it does not excuse us from being polite, good citizens. When one speaks about personal responsibility, it begins with our own thoughts and words. It is generally assumed that in a polite gathering, one is not bent on offending others. It becomes those listening to assume that no offense is intended, and to look for the meaning behind the words, ie, what the person is really trying to say. It became quite clear over the course of the conversation that Simon had no concern for the feelings of others- in other words, he was not behaving in a civilized fashion, by the above definition. I thought he said that he is who he is, and whoever does not like it can lump it, even the list owner. That is why he got bounced. Not everyone has the background to accept criticism and verbal abuse. Especially not the weak and ill, and especially when they are coming to this group specifically FOR help. As my dear Grandmother used to say When in doubt, apply the Golden Rule. Kathryn On Nov 8, 2007, at 8:05 AM, faith gagne wrote: I do not agree at all. I do not demand that others treat me exactly the way I need to be treated in order for me to feel good about myself. This places quite a burden on friends, neighbors and the entire world, and it does not require me to make any effort at all to understand where other people are coming from. To insist that all others dance in attendance to my emotional wants and needs places a HUGE demand on the rest of the world. To automatically assume that the other person sees me as dumb is a construct of my own thinking designed to keep my demands in place and up front. Nobody lives between my ears but me. I'm in there all by myself so I cannot blame other people for what emerges from my own thinking.. I may not always agree with what the other person has to say and I may not even like what the other person has to say, but I'd damned well better love their RIGHT to say it because I cannot muzzle the next guy without muzzling myself at the same time. We cause as much pain in the world when we take offense as when we give it. Faith G - Original Message - From: Dee To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 8:22 AM Subject: Re: CSSimon aka Charles is gone... I agree totally with you Mary Ann, civility costs nothing and it is surely a positive thing to make people feel good rather than the opposite, no matter how clever one may think one is, or how dumb one may think the other person is! Dee ---Original Message--- From: marmar...@bellsouth.net Date: 07/11/2007 17:43:08 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSSimon aka Charles is gone... Boy -- I've got to respectfully disagree with this Mike. And pardon me for speaking out --I've been sitting on my hands thinking that I should be the one to be silent now. But that's what's wrong with our world -- the ones who object remain silent. The measure of any group of people in society -- cyber-society included -- is the level of behavior of the least of that society. If it is required of polite people to become thick-skinned and tolerate bad behavior, then everyone loses because as we become that way we also become insensitive to our own behavior towards others. Isn't that a slippery slope? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSEquine to Human diseases
no I think it is equine encephalitis. The pediatricians get to worry about it some years, and headaches are one symptom. Of course the people living near horses were at more risk than others. Maybe it is viral, I don't know. I do remember that we had to worry about it before West Nile came to our neighborhood and killed most of our birds. Kathryn On Nov 8, 2007, at 11:16 AM, marmar...@bellsouth.net wrote: -- Original message from Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com: -- Thanks. I know that there are some equine diseases around here that can and sometimes are transmitted to humans via mosquitoes, it is a concern here in the summer. Hi Kathryn -- I'm unaware of any diseases that can be transmitted to people from horses via mosquitos. Could you be thinking of West Nile? This is transmitted to people via mosquitos -- but comes from mosquitos that have bitten infected birds. Horses are subject to infection this way too, but are an end-recipient, like people -- not a transmittor. MA -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSSimon aka Charles is gone...
Hi Faith. I think you are confusing the right to free speech with the right to be rude. Twisted thinking like that is what encourages people to behave badly in public. This is especially true in this day and age of cyber-societies, where people can hide behind their computer and say what they want with relative impunity. I don't think that's what the founding fathers had in mind when they created the doctrine of free speech -- that it be a vehicle for people to attack other people without provocation. You are, of course, entitled to your opinion -- as am I. MA
CSHome made CS brewer (UNCLASSIFIED)
Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE Subject: CSBrewing CS You can use almost any DC power supply, the ones with less voltage just take longer. You can speed up brewing by seeding with some CS. I have made CS with a small 9 volt DC power supply and one of the C urgent regulating central diodes. To all (especially new members) You can make a Controlled Current Generator with and Wall DC power supply using a Current Regulating Central Diode they come in various currents 610-1N5297 from Mouser Electronics is for 1 Mill amp You put this in line with power supply with a volt meter you can measure voltage (higher as Silver is further apart and lower as you move silver closer together). It adjust voltage to matain mill amp rating. Bob Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE
Re: CScivility
I have dictionaries of my own and I know how to use them. Of course the Golden Rule is wonderful , but then it can be twisted out of recognition when altered to fit indulgent demands. Faith G - Original Message - From: Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 12:45 PM Subject: Re: CScivility Every elder member of my family would not agree that everyone has the right to be rude to others. The basis of civilization is civility: World Book Dictionary: civility, noun, pl. -ties. 1. polite behavior; courtesy; consideration. Ex. Thank you for your civility in replying to my letter so promptly. (SYN) politeness. 2. an act or expression of politeness or courtesy. 3. (Archaic.) the state of being civilized; freedom from barbarity; civilization. 4. (Archaic.) a. polite or liberal education; training in the humanities. b. good breeding; culture; refinement. civilization, noun. 1. civilized condition; advanced stage in social development. This has nothing to do with anyone's emotions: rather, it depends on us to try to restrain our emotions to avoid putting an unnecessary burden on others. There are many ways to state a point of view, and being considerate of another person is our duty as a citizen. Having a spirited debate does not mean dumping on people. Feeling passionate about a subject demands that we be even more vigilant concerning our words, it does not excuse us from being polite, good citizens. When one speaks about personal responsibility, it begins with our own thoughts and words. It is generally assumed that in a polite gathering, one is not bent on offending others. It becomes those listening to assume that no offense is intended, and to look for the meaning behind the words, ie, what the person is really trying to say. It became quite clear over the course of the conversation that Simon had no concern for the feelings of others- in other words, he was not behaving in a civilized fashion, by the above definition. I thought he said that he is who he is, and whoever does not like it can lump it, even the list owner. That is why he got bounced. Not everyone has the background to accept criticism and verbal abuse. Especially not the weak and ill, and especially when they are coming to this group specifically FOR help. As my dear Grandmother used to say When in doubt, apply the Golden Rule. Kathryn On Nov 8, 2007, at 8:05 AM, faith gagne wrote: I do not agree at all. I do not demand that others treat me exactly the way I need to be treated in order for me to feel good about myself. This places quite a burden on friends, neighbors and the entire world, and it does not require me to make any effort at all to understand where other people are coming from. To insist that all others dance in attendance to my emotional wants and needs places a HUGE demand on the rest of the world. To automatically assume that the other person sees me as dumb is a construct of my own thinking designed to keep my demands in place and up front. Nobody lives between my ears but me. I'm in there all by myself so I cannot blame other people for what emerges from my own thinking.. I may not always agree with what the other person has to say and I may not even like what the other person has to say, but I'd damned well better love their RIGHT to say it because I cannot muzzle the next guy without muzzling myself at the same time. We cause as much pain in the world when we take offense as when we give it. Faith G - Original Message - From: Dee To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 8:22 AM Subject: Re: CSSimon aka Charles is gone... I agree totally with you Mary Ann, civility costs nothing and it is surely a positive thing to make people feel good rather than the opposite, no matter how clever one may think one is, or how dumb one may think the other person is! Dee ---Original Message--- From: marmar...@bellsouth.net Date: 07/11/2007 17:43:08 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSSimon aka Charles is gone... Boy -- I've got to respectfully disagree with this Mike. And pardon me for speaking out --I've been sitting on my hands thinking that I should be the one to be silent now. But that's what's wrong with our world -- the ones who object remain silent. The measure of any group of people in society -- cyber-society included -- is the level of behavior of the least of that society. If it is required of polite people to become thick-skinned and tolerate bad behavior, then everyone loses because as we become that way we also become insensitive to our own behavior towards others. Isn't that a slippery slope? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver
Re: CSSimon aka Charles is gone...
Thank you Mike. I really do not want to get into these back and forth one-upmanship things that we can all get into from time to time.. I think I just responded to something, but I will now try to refrain from responding to any more of them. I don't have to respond. In just moving on I will be helping to create the atmosphere you are working toward and which I appreciate. Faith G - Original Message - From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 12:54 PM Subject: Re: CSSimon aka Charles is gone... Faith concludes: We cause as much pain in the world when we take offense as when we give it. Very interesting summation of the idea, Faith. Dee writes: I agree totally with you Mary Ann, civility costs nothing and it is surely a positive thing to make people feel good rather than the opposite... Civility costs effort, more or less depending on your personality. grin Mary Ann says: The measure of any group of people in society -- cyber-society included -- is the level of behavior of the least of that society. If it is required of polite people to become thick-skinned and tolerate bad behavior, then everyone loses Yes, and somewhere between these two legitimate ideals -- perfect civility and perfect immunity -- is the reality we live in. Anybody who wants to launch into great dramas every time somebody else says something that can be stretched enough to be interpreted as offensive will be just as disruptive as Simon/Charles, as well as fail to achieve any of their own goals for their participation. We've all seen these personalities. They usually don't hang around very long. On the other hand, if you stubbornly persist in injecting unnecessary little personal jabs at people while ostensibly helping them, you're going to create a problem, too. Still, the reason I'm most disappointed in Charles, is that this list is, in essence, my property, the product of my labor. The atmosphere I foster, the effort I put into making it a welcoming place and keeping the discussion on an even keel, is what will make the group attractive to people and allow them to use it to meet their own needs and encourage them to help each other. You don't come in here and expect to be able to dictate standards of behavior! I'm astonished that an ostensible libertarian would be so disrespectful of another person's property rights! And be persistently aggressive, too. Both are antithetical to libertarian philosophy. sigh So I agree with everyone who says you shouldn't let yourself be bothered by idiots on the 'net. But that doesn't mean I'm obliged to let anyone come in here and stealthily corrupt the atmosphere I'm trying to create with hostile and aggressive behavior. Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSObnoxious people... and WORDS
And I'll say AMEN and then remind everybody about the prohibition on more than a passing reference to religious or spiritual topics. GRIN It's been a busy week! LOL! Be well!! Mike D. That Word was Christ and he was always kind to the sick and downtrodden. There are many on this site that are so knowledgeable and appreciated for their time they take to share that knowledge. There are also those of us that are climbing that ladder that are on much lower rungs and it is welcome to have a hand extended down to help you up rather than a foot on your head telling you that you aren't worthy. Dianne - Original Message - From: Jonathan B. Brittenmailto:jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 6:15 PM Subject: Re: CSObnoxious people... and WORDS In the beginning there was the word . . . . Seven of the most profound words ever written. Food for thought for a lifetime. On Friday, Nov 9, 2007, at 06:28 Asia/Tokyo, Faith Saint Francis wrote: WORDS are powerful .. they can either build up, of break down .. alas too often they do not build up. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.orghttp://silverlist.org/ To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.commailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.c om The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.commailto:mdev...@eskimo.com [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ]
CSPart Simon and a CS question
Who gets to decide what is rude? The person speaking or the person spoken to? If you say the person spoken to then you will have a lot of people afraid to say anything for fear of being thought rude even though they may not have intended to be rude. I have that problem a lot myself. People often think I m rude but I have no intention of being so and often don't understand why someone would think I was rude. To keep on topic, I tried to make a batch of cs and went off and forgot about it. There was lots of black stuff in the bottom but nothing floating anywhere else. I decanted off the clear stuff and it seems to be very weak. I would like to know if this is safe to use or do I have to discard it? Linda On 11/8/2007 11:52:25 AM, marmar...@bellsouth.net wrote: Hi Faith. I think you are confusing the right to free speech with the right to be rude. Twisted thinking like that is what encourages people to behave badly in public. This is especially true in this day and age of cyber-societies, where people can hide behind their computer and say what they want with relative impunity. I don't think that's what the founding fathers had in mind when they created the doctrine of free speech -- that it be a vehicle for people to attack other people without provocation. You are, of course, entitled to your opinion -- as am I. MA
CSEnlightened Doctor speaks 2
Your life is surrounded by sweets but you can not take advantage of them, to assimilate, to introduce, to live them; you cannot see them, but they are there, and very close to you. Allow that you are loved; you have a right to be loved, but give consent to them to love you. Just do not think of any more excuses, do not justify yourself, in this way you are going to unlock your pancreas and you are going to allow that the love comes in, and that it penetrates your Being. If you do not love yourself then it is more difficult for others to love you. The energy follows the thought; if you think about your disease you are feeding it, and then it grows; think about your health, about your cure and feed that thought, think that it is possible, even though your doctor tells you that it isn’t; I am a doctor also and I tell you that it is possible. If your internal process is not worked out - then you commence with the affection towards other organs, which are going to oblige more internal changes and it becomes a little more difficult, but not impossible. The miraculous treatments occur when there are important internal changes. The external method of cure is not what matters, it is the attitude of the patient, it is the FAITH, it is not the tablet or the ash which cures. The Virgin can cure you in the same way or better than Sai Baba, but that depends on YOU. Your BEING is always healthy, it is your BODY which is ill, it is your PERSONALITY which suffers. Your SOUL is pure and crystalline, it is immutable, it is your Internal Christ, allow It to flow. May God illumine you so that you can find the right way. A hug from Soul to Soul. S. (FaithStFrancis) _ Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-ussource=wlmailtagline
CSEnlightened Doctor speaks 1
Respected Silver List Forum We have so often seen negative remarks about doctors who care only for the money, and we read about the bad experiences with the like because they keep their knowledge to themselves, thus misleading their patients .. alas it is so. That is why is such a relief to see specks of light in this immense darkness: There are good doctors as well (or else where would we be?) We received this exemplar message on another list (of which the name I can reveal to you in private if you so wish); here is a medical doctor giving his good counsel to a member who has suffered from diabetes for many years, and did not get good results with her medics. Maybe you'll feel as good as we did after reading this uplifting message. Message was translated and published with the permission of the doctor concerned: Dear A.: The first thing you need to have is the total and absolute FAITH that Diabetes can be cured. Do not doubt. The Masters were able to realize whatever miraculous cure although they did not always do it. The disease does not appear like a punishment, but like a POSSIBILITY OF PRODUCING AN INTERNAL CHANGE, it is what our Soul needs to be able to continue evolving, growing; it is one more opportunity which Nature” gives us, to be able to learn what we could not appreciate in another form. Only we are in charge of that situation. Nobody else is. The trick consists in discovering WHAT IT IS THAT OUR DISEASE IS ASKING US, TO WHAT CHANGE OBLIGES US. It is not necessary to resist, or to get angry with our disease, to be friendly towards it, to speak to it, or to understand it. It does not want to be there either, but it has its work to do. Diabetes is a disease of the pancreas in which there is lack of the secretion of insulin. Insulin is a hormone of which the function is to introduce the glucose (the sugar, the candy, the SWEETS) into the cells of your body. Those sweets remain in the blood in large amounts and they are eliminated by the kidneys as if they were a waste of your metabolism. Your body is surrounded by sweets but it cannot take advantage of them. _ Discover the new Windows Vista http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=windows+vistamkt=en-USform=QBRE
CSEquine to Human diseases
-- Original message from Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com: -- no I think it is equine encephalitis. The pediatricians get to worry about it some years, and headaches are one symptom. Of course the people living near horses were at more risk than others. Maybe it is viral, I don't know. I do remember that we had to worry about it before West Nile came to our neighborhood and killed most of our birds. OK -- I think you are referring to Eastern Equine Encephalitis, or Western Equine Encephalitis. Or perhaps Venezuelan Equine Encephalitis. EEE and WEE are no concern, because horses like humans are the end host and cannot infect one another. VEE, on the other hand, is a different type of virus and it is unclear at this time if horses or humans can transmit the disease via mosquitos. However, there hasn't been an outbreak of VEE since 1995 and it was confined to Texas, I do believe. Where are you located, Kathryn? I'm sorry that you lost most of your birds -- that would upset me terribly. We haven't seen much of that here (Kentucky) -- and I hope we never do. West Nile seems to be slowing down. MA
CSPlastic or Glass bottles
Hi there, I hope that I'm not repeating a question that has already been asked recently. I have a SilverPuppy generator, and I'm wondering whether PET plastic bottles are OK or not to store my CS. According to the instructions that came with it, it says PET plastic bottles are OK. Then I came across this web site (http://www.silver-colloids.com/Papers/FAQ.html#glass-bottles) which says that home-made silver always consists mostly of ionic silver, and therefore should be stored in glass bottles. Now I'm wondering if storing my EIS in plastic bottles has been a waste of time. Also, if plastic is bad, does that mean putting EIS into a glass spray bottle (which has a plastic inner straw) is not recommended? Another question ... I have two children (a 2 year old a new-born). When is it safe to start giving them EIS to ward off colds? I'm concerned that with lack of selenium in their diets, they wont be able to eliminate the silver from their bodies. Thanks in advance! David -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSEquine to Human diseases
minnesota... we get lots of bird travel through here, from arctic to s. america. It has not been permanent, and it didn't seem to infect all birds equally- the crows went first, as far as I could see, in our neighborhood. The carcasses were all over the place. There are a few now. On Nov 8, 2007, at 1:51 PM, marmar...@bellsouth.net wrote: -- Original message from Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com: -- no I think it is equine encephalitis. The pediatricians get to worry about it some years, and headaches are one symptom. Of course the people living near horses were at more risk than others. Maybe it is viral, I don't know. I do remember that we had to worry about it before West Nile came to our neighborhood and killed most of our birds. OK -- I think you are referring to Eastern Equine Encephalitis, or Western Equine Encephalitis. Or perhaps Venezuelan Equine Encephalitis. EEE and WEE are no concern, because horses like humans are the end host and cannot infect one another. VEE, on the other hand, is a different type of virus and it is unclear at this time if horses or humans can transmit the disease via mosquitos. However, there hasn't been an outbreak of VEE since 1995 and it was confined to Texas, I do believe. Where are you located, Kathryn? I'm sorry that you lost most of your birds -- that would upset me terribly. We haven't seen much of that here (Kentucky) -- and I hope we never do. West Nile seems to be slowing down. MA -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CScivility
On 11/8/2007 12:45:27 PM, Clayton Family (clay...@skypoint.com) wrote: As my dear Grandmother used to say When in doubt, apply the Golden Rule. Mine always said Ruler' Chuck Speak, friend, and enter. If you don't press enter, nothing happens. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CScivility
My grandmother told me that it really doesn't matter what you want. What matters is what others want from you. You are not a world unto your self. - Original Message - From: cking...@nycap.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 12:18 PM Subject: Re: CScivility On 11/8/2007 12:45:27 PM, Clayton Family (clay...@skypoint.com) wrote: As my dear Grandmother used to say When in doubt, apply the Golden Rule. Mine always said Ruler' Chuck Speak, friend, and enter. If you don't press enter, nothing happens. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CScivility
LOL- Mine backed up her rules with the coat hanger... On Nov 8, 2007, at 2:18 PM, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote: On 11/8/2007 12:45:27 PM, Clayton Family (clay...@skypoint.com) wrote: As my dear Grandmother used to say When in doubt, apply the Golden Rule. Mine always said Ruler' Chuck Speak, friend, and enter. If you don't press enter, nothing happens. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPlastic or Glass bottles
Why do you think their diet is deficient in selenium? Any newborn is probably best off with her mother's milk, in any case ( just my opinion, unless there is some infection that needs treating). Others have said they use it to treat children. The storage jars seem to be a matter of personal preference. I use both. I also keep EIS in a nasal spray bottle in my purse at all times, my son has taken to keeping a plastic spray bottle of it in his car. Kathryn On Nov 8, 2007, at 1:51 PM, David Angland wrote: Hi there, I hope that I'm not repeating a question that has already been asked recently. I have a SilverPuppy generator, and I'm wondering whether PET plastic bottles are OK or not to store my CS. According to the instructions that came with it, it says PET plastic bottles are OK. Then I came across this web site (http://www.silver-colloids.com/Papers/FAQ.html#glass-bottles) which says that home-made silver always consists mostly of ionic silver, and therefore should be stored in glass bottles. Now I'm wondering if storing my EIS in plastic bottles has been a waste of time. Also, if plastic is bad, does that mean putting EIS into a glass spray bottle (which has a plastic inner straw) is not recommended? Another question ... I have two children (a 2 year old a new-born). When is it safe to start giving them EIS to ward off colds? I'm concerned that with lack of selenium in their diets, they wont be able to eliminate the silver from their bodies. Thanks in advance! David -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSPrill water and CS
Sorry, I should have been more clear. I do not intend on using Prill water to generate my CS. I use only the best distilled water and have done so for years and would never think of changing my method. But I sure appreciate the heads-up. I was asking Ode about the read out on my Hanna PWT when I measure my Prill water. I made the Prill water with RO water but plan to change to distilled. S-Max --- From: William Missett Date: 11/8/2007 12:13:25 P Using Prill Water to make CS imparts magnesium and possibly other salts to the CS mix, not a good idea unless you like turning blue. (I am a Prill water user) -- From: S-Max s...@emotap.com Okay Ode. Can you help me out with this? I have standing Prill water made with RO. When I put my Hanna PWT in it reads 1 . There are spaces after the 1. Does it mean I have 1.0 uS? It is is 1.0 why are there so many spaces after the 1? I am going to make some Prill water using distilled. It has to sit for 24 hours though. After that I will take a measurement. S-Max -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSObnoxious people...
It's been my experience that obnoxious, rude, overbearing, opinionated folks most often have an insecurity complex i.e. an underlying lack of self-worth that is often sublimated by grandiosity and verbose, not to mention other less than likeable personality traits. Personality disorder are hard to overcome... Neurosis is easy in comparison. I was once told by a dear friend, you have no Idea how your words hurt people and my Xwife once said , Can you just say it's only what you THINK, before you make your dictatorial assertions of TRUTH? Gosh, wonder why she is another X. ; ) ... topping those, when I was perhaps 50 years old, my dear sweet Father. during a 'conversation', became beet red and calmly said, You are the most over bearing person I have ever known... that got my attention, later that day I apologized; and have since then made a concerted effort to temper my speech and to understand why I need to be the right man. Glad I 'got it'.. works better for all... mostly for me. larry tankersley; Gainesville,Florida USA
RE: CSObnoxious people... and WORDS
WORDS are ALL and ALWAYS loaded with energy. It was the great Italian educationist and medical doctor Maria Montessori who told her students '..let your words be counted..' Many gurus will tel you to speak less, and if you do, to speak in a sweet soft voice - watching the portent of your utterings. There are Masters warning us not to speak evil of others (gossipping) lest you want to loose your memory at a more advanced age; and there more warnings and good advices of the like. Too many different views to be ignored. WORDS are powerful .. they can either build up, of break down .. alas too often they do not build up. FaithStFrancis From: la...@webtv.netto: silver-l...@eskimo.comdate: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 21:08:46 +Subject: CSObnoxious people... It's been my experience that obnoxious, rude, overbearing, opinionated folks most often have an insecurity complex i.e. an underlying lack of self-worth that is often sublimated by grandiosity and verbose, not to mention other less than likeable personality traits. Personality disorder are hard to overcome... Neurosis is easy in comparison.I was once told by a dear friend, you have no Idea how your words hurt people and my Xwife once said , Can you just say it's only what you THINK, before you make your dictatorial assertions of TRUTH? Gosh, wonder why she is another X. ; ) ... topping those, when I was perhaps 50 years old, my dear sweet Father. during a 'conversation', became beet red and calmly said, You are the most over bearing person I have ever known... that got my attention, later that day I apologized; and have since then made a concerted effort to temper my speech and to understand why I need to be the right man. Glad I 'got it'.. works better for all... mostly for me. larry tankersley; Gainesville,Florida USA _ Explore the seven wonders of the world http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=7+wonders+worldmkt=en-USform=QBRE
Re: CSEnlightened Doctor speaks 1
If you would like to know more about this philosophy read books by Miguel Ruiz (he says the same thing but in very different words), Ester and Jerry Hicks (my favorite is Ask and It Is Given), or read The Secret. Although I personally don't think The Secret is the best book, but it is very popular right now and pretty easy to find. Linda ---Original Message--- From: Faith Saint Francis Date: 11/8/2007 1:36:43 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSEnlightened Doctor speaks 1 Respected Silver List Forum We have so often seen negative remarks about doctors who care only for the money, and we read about the bad experiences with the like because they keep their knowledge to themselves, thus misleading their patients .. alas it is so. That is why is such a relief to see specks of light in this immense darkness: There are good doctors as well (or else where would we be?) We received this exemplar message on another list (of which the name I can reveal to you in private if you so wish); here is a medical doctor giving his good counsel to a member who has suffered from diabetes for many years, and did not get good results with her medics. Maybe you'll feel as good as we did after reading this uplifting message. Message was translated and published with the permission of the doctor concerned: Dear A.: The first thing you need to have is the total and absolute FAITH that Diabetes can be cured. Do not doubt. The Masters were able to realize whatever miraculous cure although they did not always do it. The disease does not appear like a punishment, but like a POSSIBILITY OF PRODUCING AN INTERNAL CHANGE, it is what our Soul needs to be able to continue evolving, growing; it is one more opportunity which Nature gives us, to be able to learn what we could not appreciate in another form. Only we are in charge of that situation. Nobody else is. The trick consists in discovering WHAT IT IS THAT OUR DISEASE IS ASKING US, TO WHAT CHANGE OBLIGES US. It is not necessary to resist, or to get angry with our disease, to be friendly towards it, to speak to it, or to understand it. It does not want to be there either, but it has its work to do. Diabetes is a disease of the pancreas in which there is lack of the secretion of insulin. Insulin is a hormone of which the function is to introduce the glucose (the sugar, the candy, the SWEETS) into the cells of your body. Those sweets remain in the blood in large amounts and they are eliminated by the kidneys as if they were a waste of your metabolism. Your body is surrounded by sweets but it cannot take advantage of them. Discover the new Windows Vista Learn more!
RE: CSEnlightened Doctor speaks 1 and the Secret of Positivism
Well, the Secret / el Secreto goes like pan caliente (hot bread) over the counter here, and I am enjoying it to the bottom - or to the last page, reading and re-reading and making a lot of notes - we have the CD as well, very well done, although indeed a bit popular. I find that I lived by these rules for the greater part of my life, and from this book I learn a lot of extras. Of course the same song has been sung in many tones; this is a Universal message. It is all about seeing life in a positive way, avoiding the darkness, and being awestruck at the silver lining, not by the grey cloud. FaithStFrancisMedellin, Colombia Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 15:36:30 -0600From: li...@choctaw-oklahoma.usto: silver-l...@eskimo.comsubject: Re: CSEnlightened Doctor speaks 1 If you would like to know more about this philosophy read books by Miguel Ruiz (he says the same thing but in very different words), Ester and Jerry Hicks (my favorite is Ask and It Is Given), or read The Secret. Although I personally don't think The Secret is the best book, but it is very popular right now and pretty easy to find. Linda ---Original Message--- From: Faith Saint Francis Date: 11/8/2007 1:36:43 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSEnlightened Doctor speaks 1 Respected Silver List Forum We have so often seen negative remarks about doctors who care only for the money, and we read about the bad experiences with the like because they keep their knowledge to themselves, thus misleading their patients .. alas it is so. That is why is such a relief to see specks of light in this immense darkness: There are good doctors as well (or else where would we be?) We received this exemplar message on another list (of which the name I can reveal to you in private if you so wish); here is a medical doctor giving his good counsel to a member who has suffered from diabetes for many years, and did not get good results with her medics. Maybe you'll feel as good as we did after reading this uplifting message. Message was translated and published with the permission of the doctor concerned: Dear A.: The first thing you need to have is the total and absolute FAITH that Diabetes can be cured. Do not doubt. The Masters were able to realize whatever miraculous cure although they did not always do it. The disease does not appear like a punishment, but like a POSSIBILITY OF PRODUCING AN INTERNAL CHANGE, it is what our Soul needs to be able to continue evolving, growing; it is one more opportunity which Nature” gives us, to be able to learn what we could not appreciate in another form. Only we are in charge of that situation. Nobody else is. The trick consists in discovering WHAT IT IS THAT OUR DISEASE IS ASKING US, TO WHAT CHANGE OBLIGES US. It is not necessary to resist, or to get angry with our disease, to be friendly towards it, to speak to it, or to understand it. It does not want to be there either, but it has its work to do. Diabetes is a disease of the pancreas in which there is lack of the secretion of insulin. Insulin is a hormone of which the function is to introduce the glucose (the sugar, the candy, the SWEETS) into the cells of your body. Those sweets remain in the blood in large amounts and they are eliminated by the kidneys as if they were a waste of your metabolism. Your body is surrounded by sweets but it cannot take advantage of them. Discover the new Windows Vista Learn more! _ News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now! http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx
Re: CSObnoxious people... and WORDS
In the beginning there was the word . . . . Seven of the most profound words ever written. Food for thought for a lifetime. On Friday, Nov 9, 2007, at 06:28 Asia/Tokyo, Faith Saint Francis wrote: WORDS are powerful .. they can either build up, of break down .. alas too often they do not build up. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSObnoxious people... and WORDS
That Word was Christ and he was always kind to the sick and downtrodden. There are many on this site that are so knowledgeable and appreciated for their time they take to share that knowledge. There are also those of us that are climbing that ladder that are on much lower rungs and it is welcome to have a hand extended down to help you up rather than a foot on your head telling you that you aren't worthy. Dianne - Original Message - From: Jonathan B. Brittenmailto:jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 6:15 PM Subject: Re: CSObnoxious people... and WORDS In the beginning there was the word . . . . Seven of the most profound words ever written. Food for thought for a lifetime. On Friday, Nov 9, 2007, at 06:28 Asia/Tokyo, Faith Saint Francis wrote: WORDS are powerful .. they can either build up, of break down .. alas too often they do not build up. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.orghttp://silverlist.org/ To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.commailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.commailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSObnoxious people... and WORDS
AGREE! And want to say I appreciate all of you as it makes my world go round. I haven't had too many people help me, especially around here. Leslie - Original Message - From: Dianne France To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 5:22 PM Subject: Re: CSObnoxious people... and WORDS That Word was Christ and he was always kind to the sick and downtrodden. There are many on this site that are so knowledgeable and appreciated for their time they take to share that knowledge. There are also those of us that are climbing that ladder that are on much lower rungs and it is welcome to have a hand extended down to help you up rather than a foot on your head telling you that you aren't worthy. Dianne - Original Message - From: Jonathan B. Britten To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 6:15 PM Subject: Re: CSObnoxious people... and WORDS In the beginning there was the word . . . . Seven of the most profound words ever written. Food for thought for a lifetime. On Friday, Nov 9, 2007, at 06:28 Asia/Tokyo, Faith Saint Francis wrote: WORDS are powerful .. they can either build up, of break down .. alas too often they do not build up. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: Scabies
Scott- They were using DE, and moth balls. It turns out they had sent a couple of samples to my doctor sister and she admitted when leaving that one sample had springtails. She seemed to think this was inconsequential. I had seen springtail also known as Collembola information through google, some people have claimed to have a problem being bitten by them. My brother seems convinced this is the source of their problem and is trying different things on them. I'll report if he feels something succeeds. Anyone heard of this? I don't think he left any critters here but I can't get the moth ball smell out of my guest bedroom. We even ran the ozone generator in there a couple of times. Nancy On Oct 12, 2007, at 11:53 AM, Scott wrote: So, when I dust my house, I do it everywhere using a talcum powder bottle or something that has small holes that will disperse the DE fairly well. Make sure to where a filtering mask (paper ones will work) when spreading the DE. Also, make sure all pets are put outdoors or take them to someone else's house for at least one hour after dusting. Tad Winiecki winie...@pacifier.com wrote: couple of years with an invisible no-see-um that he picked up near Waco. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
