RE: CSOT: FoodInc. movie
Smitty I watched several of the clips..good information. I fear for our kids. Dianne Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 15:51:26 -1000 Subject: Re: CSOT: FoodInc. movie From: papad...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com For those interested, there's some coverage here = http://tinyurl.com/n52x8d Smitty This is off topic, but I have seen a post on GMO foods and the supermarket. Has anyone on the list caught the movie called Foodinc? It's for certain eye opener. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com _ Windows Live: Make it easier for your friends to see what you’re up to on Facebook. http://windowslive.com/Campaign/SocialNetworking?ocid=PID23285::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:SI_SB_facebook:082009
Re: CSCS Lyme test
My three days may have been misleading as I didn't quit taking CS at that time. I went on a maintenance dose of four oz. A day for the next six years or so. Thereby keeping enough silver going through my blood stream to stop any further replication as the hidden ones came out oh hiding. Damn well worked for me. No flare ups--No more swollen inflamed joints--gradual lessening of brain fog(I'm still dumber than a stump)--No colds of flu or any other respiratory problems, I used to make so much snot I couldn't attend public affairs as I would have drowned in it. No more! The floaters have left my eyes--no more tennis elbow (I've had it in both elbows) My knees would crackle and pop and swell up to nearly the size of my waist--Each. I was on crutches and couldn't even walk across my kitchen without them. After the three day treatment with a little healing time I could out run an 18 year football player. That is a look at a Small And I repeat Small part of my Lyme experience, So Marshall and all you doubters WHAT IN THE HELL did I have. Dave On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 7:04 PM, Joseph Metz josephm...@comcast.net wrote: The various blood tests, Western Blot, etc., are not accurate because the Llyme bacteria doesn't stay in the blood for long, too easy for the imunne system to attack it. The Stricker panel CD 57 tests well for chronic lyme but isn't accepted by mainstream medical because Raphael Stricker didn't use a control group when he developed it. Smitty wrote: After 42 years of late Lyme I bought a CS maker from Wish granted.comand it took me three days to rid myself of Lyme. Did you have a test to determine if you were rid of Lyme ? Do they even have a test that will tell you with any accuracy. When I had Lyme the tests were over 50% unreliable. False positives AND negatives. They were a total waste of money. Marshall -- -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSGrave's disease
No I agree, and although I do not like meat much, I recognize that the human is supposed to eat animal protein of some kind as they can become ill if just vegetarian. sol is a case in point. I also realize that some people are vegetarian because they do not like the way animals are treated, and I certainly can sympathize with that, but it does not mean that we should eat soy as an alternative. I wouldn't. dee On 22 Aug 2009, at 00:18, Dave Darrin wrote: So what is your point!!! The things you just named are also known as FOOD. We are not all vegan. Dave On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Indi indi.sha...@gmail.com wrote:
Re: CSGrave's disease
The point sure does get lost fast around here when someone says vegetarian. It's pretty weird... -- /\ /\ \ / ^ 'v-v'B.Trig On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 04:39:43PM +0100, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: No I agree, and although I do not like meat much, I recognize that the human is supposed to eat animal protein of some kind as they can become ill if just vegetarian. sol is a case in point. I also realize that some people are vegetarian because they do not like the way animals are treated, and I certainly can sympathize with that, but it does not mean that we should eat soy as an alternative. I wouldn't. dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSGrave's disease
Yeah, if you walk into a bar and mention rehab you'll get a similar result. --- On Sat, 8/22/09, B.Trig thebeelzebubtrig...@gmail.com wrote: From: B.Trig thebeelzebubtrig...@gmail.com Subject: [thebeelzebubtrig...@gmail.com: Re: CSGrave's disease] To: cussin...@yahoo.com Date: Saturday, August 22, 2009, 4:41 PM - Forwarded message from B.Trig thebeelzebubtrig...@gmail.com From: B.Trig thebeelzebubtrig...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 12:00:41 -0400 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSGrave's disease The point sure does get lost fast around here when someone says vegetarian. It's pretty weird... -- /\ /\ \ / ^ 'v-v' B.Trig On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 04:39:43PM +0100, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: No I agree, and although I do not like meat much, I recognize that the human is supposed to eat animal protein of some kind as they can become ill if just vegetarian. sol is a case in point. I also realize that some people are vegetarian because they do not like the way animals are treated, and I certainly can sympathize with that, but it does not mean that we should eat soy as an alternative. I wouldn't. dee - End forwarded message -
Re: CSCS Lyme test
I went on a maintenance dose of four oz. a day for the next six years or so. . . . . I thought you were new to using CS. Smitty -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS Lyme test
Not me--I'm one of the old timers here. I don't remember exactly how long but it was shortly after mike took over as moderator. Dave On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 10:47 AM, Smitty papad...@gmail.com wrote: I went on a maintenance dose of four oz. a day for the next six years or so. . . . . I thought you were new to using CS. Smitty -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS Lyme test
Not me--I'm one of the old timers here. I don't remember exactly how long but it was shortly after mike took over as moderator. Dave sorry. . .wrong guy. . . . Smitty -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CS[List Owner] Checking in, checking up?
Hi folks, Yes, I know I've been vey quiet lately. I've been here, reading along, sometime a day or two behind you, but watching nonetheless. I've been spread quite thin, working on some major remodelling projects, with barely enough energy to sneak through the day. So, I've indulged in the privelege of letting you all take care of yourselves and each other. I have to say I continue to be well satisfied with the general attitude and the atmosphere of helping that you have maintained. Thank you! If I could give you all a hug, I would... A couple of general reminders: Any CS (EIS) related topics are, of course, welcome. Ask some questions if you'd like to move the discussion towards what interests you right now. Most folks here have already learned most of what they needed to know, so subjects of interest to newcomers won't spontaneously come up unless you let us know what you need, okay? Then, be patient and persistent... You should get answers. Other questions related to health and alternative medicine are also welcome, and both CS and non-CS related answers may be given. I ask that non-CS oriented subjects that thus come up be treated somewhat more briefly and then either retired or moved to the Off Topic List or other forums for more detailed and serious discussion. Now, the regulars all know that I'm pretty forgiving on that score. grin The recent thread on liposomal encapsulation technology courtesy of Brooks' sharing is a perfect example. When the topic is *that* interesting, I'll let it run its course quite happily. Only if it starts to dominate things will I ask for a break. If those off-topic discussions can answer immediate questions and give people pointers to other resources for their continued study, then they can be safely retired after a day or two, in most cases. I'll also remind you that politics (like religion) is a prohibited topic, in general, for the list. I'll cite as an example, any discussion of the so-called health-care-reform issue as it's currently being presented here in the united States. We have plenty of folks who can witness to the severe shortcomings of our medical establishment, but the extremely *political* maneuvering and posturing going on has far less to do with health and medicine than with influence and power. Talking about it is a guaranteed prelude to nasty arguments that will yield no benefit and much harm to the purpose of our community. Hint: Any message that mentions President Obama or Sarah Palin in any context is likely to be inappropriate. wink! The main exception to this is an OCCASIONAL (not daily!) heads-up on significant developments regarding legislation or regulations effecting CS or important alternative health issues, with any discussion to take place elsewhere. If some member or some topic starts to get out of hand, I'll get in touch with the person(s) involved privately. Let me know, in private also, if you think anything needs my attention. I take member opinions that come to me that way into account as I gently nudge things along and keep things, if not perfectly on track, than not careening too wildy off the path. Oh, and I've noticed a few subscriptions from usernames that seem a little... suspicious. My advice? Just don't. evil grin As all of you, I've been quietly mourning the loss of Wayne. He and I only corresponded occasionally off-list, but I've long enjoyed his contributions and unique perspective. I even had to rattle his cage a time or two when he got a bit too frisky... Thanks, Wayne. I hope you've found a good place. Peace. Mike Devour silver-list owner [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSBrooks: About GSH need. COMMENT.
Growth Stimulating Hormone. . . . I think. From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick Date: 8/21/2009 11:25:09 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [RE]CSBrooks: About GSH need. COMMENT. Sorry for being dense, but what is GSH please? dee On 21 Aug 2009, at 19:15, Brooks Bradley wrote:
CSSilver/Autism/Safety
Hello, I am new to this list. I am looking for information regarding treating my son with silver - specifically Argentyn 23. A nutritional expert has recommended this product for my 13 year old son. I was given info. about this list as a place to find out more info. Any experience? Risks? Thank-you, Tara Tara McClintick www.booksbytara.com
Fw: CSBrooks: About GSH need. COMMENT.
Sent to wrong addy From: Norton, Steve To: 's...@emotap.com' s...@emotap.com Sent: Sat Aug 22 13:53:00 2009 Subject: Re: CSBrooks: About GSH need. COMMENT. In this case it refers to Glutathione. - Steve N From: sms s...@emotap.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sat Aug 22 13:39:44 2009 Subject: CSBrooks: About GSH need. COMMENT. Growth Stimulating Hormone. . . . I think. From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick mailto:d...@deetroy.org Date: 8/21/2009 11:25:09 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [RE]CSBrooks: About GSH need. COMMENT. Sorry for being dense, but what is GSH please? dee On 21 Aug 2009, at 19:15, Brooks Bradley wrote:
Re: CSCS Lyme test
From: Smitty papad...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 1:47:26 PM Subject: Re: CSCS Lyme test I went on a maintenance dose of four oz. a day for the next six years or so. . . . . I thought you were new to using CS. Smitty -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com __ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com.
Re: CSRE: Making first batch
Hi Joseph, I set up a barebones type of generator - 4 9v's - 2 rods that I got off ebay that said ., 2 9v connectors and 2 alligator clips. I am using whatever distilled water I can get - unfortunately it's not easy to find where I live and the one place I did find - perhaps didn't have the absolute best. But it is what it is - and that is that I used. About 15 minutes after hooking everything up I noticed both rods getting black. One then started getting fuzzy black. I kept the power going for about 3 hours, during which I adjusted the connectors a bit and then started noticing the particles rising. The result was a light yellow. I am dealing with 3 sick cats in Israel. It's the best I can do. I need help with this, no doubt. I did dose them with it anyway because simply I have nothing else I can give them. That's the story. I'm hoping I can get some kind of distiller down the line but right now I'm tapped out financially as well. So it's just blessing after blessing. Stay cool. Joy Hi Joy, First off, forgive this list for ignoring your question. I expected someone more knowledgeable than myself to respond as I consider myself a newbie too. Hopefully someone answered your questions off list. This is a wonderful list but newbies do get ignored sometimes. A little baffling when a newbie doesn't get answered about basic CS. To answer your questions, No I probably would not drink it. No, I have never seen bubbles in mine. If you have external uses, foot bath, cuts, rashes fungus, etc., use it for that. Or maybe let it settle decant whatever sinks. Here's some questions for you. What do you mean by generator? Hows your cs maker built? Is it DC? Direct current? Do you know the voltage? If its a plug in transformer, like from radio shack, it'll say a number followed by the letter V. Are you using batteries? If you connect them end to end, like in a flashlight, you add the voltages together. Mine is a dc wall transformer, it runs 12v for 30-60 minutes, then I turn it over to reverse the polarity for another bit of time. Was this helpful? *From: *j.sherri beitharm...@gmail.com mailto:beitharm...@gmail.com *Date: *August 21, 2009 2:05:25 AM PDT *To: *silver-l...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Subject: **CSMaking first batch - Couple of questions?* Hi, I put up a bare bones generator and both rods are black one with barnacles. Not seeing any activity such as bubbles. It's been an hour. How long does it take for the tiny bubbles to start? Is that a perquisite even? Thanks so much, Joy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: Re: CSRE: Making first batch
Hi, I got these rods from this guy - Pdxsilverguydotcom - (that's how he writes it) on ebay. It was a hassle and a half just to get them - but he seemed decent and has good feedback - so ordered them. I didn't clean them before doing the batch - just rinsed them off. Basically - I just connected 4 9v's to the connectors - then took the red of one side and the black of the other side connected them to the rods with the alligator clips. The rods I bent at the top - put them through a plastic lid of a jar filled with the water. Waited - made some adjustments to the clips till I did see some particles rising and waited about 3 hours. Joy B.Trig wrote: Hi Joy, I never saw that question the first time, not sure why that is... But Joseph is right, a description of your generator setup might help. Your electrodes should definitely not be black, especially not within an hour. Are you sure you're working with silver of at least .999 purity (i.e., 99.9% pure silver)? Also, a lot of us use those green scrubby pads to clean the silver electrodes. Maybe you had some sort of residue on there? As for the barnacles well, I do hope you're not using sea water! ;) -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS Lyme test
Dave, I don't know what you had. I certainly wish I did. If you speak with someone like Marc Fett or Bryan Rosner, they might be able to tell you or refer you to someone who will know what was most likely. It might behoove you to try to find out. Currently, you could be keeping the Lyme and co-infections at a minimum (in cyst form and L-form) which allows your immune system to keep symptoms it under control. I, too, am relieved that you posted the 'rest of the story' about your CS Protocol as that makes much more sense and isn't false or misleading. I was going to chime in with all the rest of the doubters when I read your first post because what you said would have placed you in the category of a medical miracle. No one that I have ever read or heard about has cleared 42 year old late stage Lyme Disease with co-infections with three days use of CS. Unfortunately, since Lyme tests are so unreliable, that would be a less feasible route to take to find out what you had or still have that is now in remission or completely eliminated. There are high-powered microscopes with powerful cameras (CCD) connected to the unit that will show, in real time, your blood specimen and any spirochetes transforming, encysting, or changing form (L-form), and they can definitely be identified. But again, you have to get a blood specimen that holds the spirochete and also a practitioner who uses this procedure which mostly excludes MD's. These forms can lay dormant for years, and then all of a sudden something within your physiological system changes or weakens in such a way as to allow them to uncyst, change form, reappear and recirculate producing symptoms and re-infection. S-Max ---Original Message--- From: Dave Darrin Date: 8/22/2009 8:01:23 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS Lyme test My three days may have been misleading as I didn't quit taking CS at that time. I went on a maintenance dose of four oz. A day for the next six years or so. Thereby keeping enough silver going through my blood stream to stop any further replication as the hidden ones came out oh hiding. Damn well worked for me. No flare ups--No more swollen inflamed joints--gradual lessening of brain fog(I'm still dumber than a stump)--No colds of flu or any other respiratory problems, I used to make so much snot I couldn't attend public affairs as I would have drowned in it. No more! The floaters have left my eyes--no more tennis elbow (I've had it in both elbows) My knees would crackle and pop and swell up to nearly the size of my waist--Each. I was on crutches and couldn't even walk across my kitchen without them. After the three day treatment with a little healing time I could out run an 18 year football player. That is a look at a Small And I repeat Small part of my Lyme experience, So Marshall and all you doubters WHAT IN THE HELL did I have. Dave
Re: CSCS Lyme test
Dave, I don't know what you had. I certainly wish I did. If it were me, I would try MMS. Here is some info = http://MMSnews.org/NEWS006.htm Smitty -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Fwd: CSRE: Making first batch
Hi List, Joy sent this email to my personal email. Would someone take a look maybe guide her along? Hi Joy, If all 4 batteries are connected end to end, you have 36 volt, which is much higher than mine but seems to be within reason. You connect 2 batteries to each electrode? Probably the water is far from distilled. Someone else can tell you what you are making if the water has minerals in it. Some on the list also use the yellow color as a guide/standard. Still, the process seems to be going very fast, much faster than mine at 12 volt. I would give it to my cats, depending on what they have. What's wrong with your cats? Begin forwarded message: From: j.sherri beitharm...@gmail.com Date: August 22, 2009 12:06:17 PM PDT To: Joseph Metz josephm...@comcast.net Subject: Re: CSRE: Making first batch Hi Joseph, I set up a barebones type of generator - 4 9v's - 2 rods that I got off ebay that said ., 2 9v connectors and 2 alligator clips. I am using whatever distilled water I can get - unfortunately it's not easy to find where I live and the one place I did find - perhaps didn't have the absolute best. But it is what it is - and that is that I used. About 15 minutes after hooking everything up I noticed both rods getting black. One then started getting fuzzy black. I kept the power going for about 3 hours, during which I adjusted the connectors a bit and then started noticing the particles rising. The result was a light yellow. I am dealing with 3 sick cats in Israel. It's the best I can do. I need help with this, no doubt. I did dose them with it anyway because simply I have nothing else I can give them. That's the story. I'm hoping I can get some kind of distiller down the line but right now I'm tapped out financially as well. So it's just blessing after blessing. Stay cool. Joy Joseph Metz wrote: Hi Joy, First off, forgive this list for ignoring your question. I expected someone more knowledgeable than myself to respond as I consider myself a newbie too. Hopefully someone answered your questions off list. This is a wonderful list but newbies do get ignored sometimes. A little baffling when a newbie doesn't get answered about basic CS. To answer your questions, No I probably would not drink it. No, I have never seen bubbles in mine. If you have external uses, foot bath, cuts, rashes fungus, etc., use it for that. Or maybe let it settle decant whatever sinks. Here's some questions for you. What do you mean by generator? Hows your cs maker built? Is it DC? Direct current? Do you know the voltage? If its a plug in transformer, like from radio shack, it'll say a number followed by the letter V. Are you using batteries? If you connect them end to end, like in a flashlight, you add the voltages together. Mine is a dc wall transformer, it runs 12v for 30-60 minutes, then I turn it over to reverse the polarity for another bit of time. Was this helpful? *From: *j.sherri beitharm...@gmail.com mailto:beitharm...@gmail.com *Date: *August 21, 2009 2:05:25 AM PDT *To: *silver-l...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Subject: **CSMaking first batch - Couple of questions?* Hi, I put up a bare bones generator and both rods are black one with barnacles. Not seeing any activity such as bubbles. It's been an hour. How long does it take for the tiny bubbles to start? Is that a perquisite even? Thanks so much, Joy
Re: CSCS Lyme test
I see you are not comprehending what I'm trying to convey. I KNOW what I had. Also I KNOW I don't have it now. About a year ago I stopped taking CS (but I keep it on hand) and started a regimen of MMS for about six months and now I take nothing but my vitamin supplements. Thanks for the concern. Dave On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 12:29 PM, Smitty papad...@gmail.com wrote: Dave, I don't know what you had. I certainly wish I did. If it were me, I would try MMS. Here is some info = http://MMSnews.org/NEWS006.htm Smitty -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBrooks: About GSH need. COMMENT.
I don't know but the acronym is used for either Glutathione or Glutathione Peroxidase. - Steve N From: sms s...@emotap.com To: Norton, Steve Sent: Sat Aug 22 14:19:29 2009 Subject: Re: CSBrooks: About GSH need. COMMENT. Steve, What is the SH part? S-Max ---Original Message--- From: Norton, Steve mailto:stephen.nor...@ngc.com Date: 8/22/2009 11:53:03 AM To: s...@emotap.com Subject: Re: CSBrooks: About GSH need. COMMENT. In this case it refers to Glutathione. - Steve N
CSCS Lyme remedy
We've managed to confuse me, whichever of you or all of you who believes you rid Lyme with CS, can you tell me your protocol? I was doing a quart 2-3 times per week, until there was no more Herx. Less than a cup of CS there was never a herx. Did one of you say you were taking a small amount every 20 minutes? Any other ideas to saturate? To get to the places where the Lyme Bacteria hang out? Anyone want to give a simple, I do mean simple, method of electrocution/vibration to kill, eradicate, expose or otherwise eliminate or dosable the Bb bacteria co-infections? Thanks My three days may have been misleading as I didn't quit taking CS at that time. I went on a maintenance dose of four oz. A day for the next six years or so Dave Smitty wrote: After 42 years of late Lyme I bought a CS maker from Wish granted.com and it took me three days to rid myself of Lyme. Did you have a test to determine if you were rid of Lyme ? Do they even have a test that will tell you with any accuracy. When I had Lyme the tests were over 50% unreliable. False positives AND negatives. They were a total waste of money. Marshall --
Re: CSRE: Making first batch
Sounds to me that this is just fine for initial CS making. In this sort of setup, the positive electrode will get slightly black and the negative electrode will get somewhat dark and build up with fuzzy material. Sometimes it is referred to as a beard. Some people like to clean off the electrodes at a certain point and then continue the brew for a half hour or an hour, etc, it is up to you. Some say that you can stop brewing when the beard starts to form. It depends on how much water you are using and how well stirred or how well the silver is dispersed into the water. It does seem that 15 minutes might be a bit quick for that to happen, but it also depends on how much water is used in your setup and how close the electrodes are to each other. Also, as you say, the Distilled Water may not be the best, or there was a slight contamination from your hands or soap or something. Nevertheless, with a light gold color, and this setup, I would think it is fine to use internally or externally. Try lighting the water container from the back side while brewing. At some point you will see small clouds coming off the electrodes, which will tell you that it is getting near done. For this kind of unregulated/unmetered setup, I usually shoot for slight yellow CS so I know there is something there... Dan On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 2:15 PM, j.sherribeitharm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Joseph, I set up a barebones type of generator - 4 9v's - 2 rods that I got off ebay that said ., 2 9v connectors and 2 alligator clips. I am using whatever distilled water I can get - unfortunately it's not easy to find where I live and the one place I did find - perhaps didn't have the absolute best. But it is what it is - and that is that I used. About 15 minutes after hooking everything up I noticed both rods getting black. One then started getting fuzzy black. I kept the power going for about 3 hours, during which I adjusted the connectors a bit and then started noticing the particles rising. The result was a light yellow. I am dealing with 3 sick cats in Israel. It's the best I can do. I need help with this, no doubt. I did dose them with it anyway because simply I have nothing else I can give them. That's the story. I'm hoping I can get some kind of distiller down the line but right now I'm tapped out financially as well. So it's just blessing after blessing. Stay cool. Joy Hi Joy, First off, forgive this list for ignoring your question. I expected someone more knowledgeable than myself to respond as I consider myself a newbie too. Hopefully someone answered your questions off list. This is a wonderful list but newbies do get ignored sometimes. A little baffling when a newbie doesn't get answered about basic CS. To answer your questions, No I probably would not drink it. No, I have never seen bubbles in mine. If you have external uses, foot bath, cuts, rashes fungus, etc., use it for that. Or maybe let it settle decant whatever sinks. Here's some questions for you. What do you mean by generator? Hows your cs maker built? Is it DC? Direct current? Do you know the voltage? If its a plug in transformer, like from radio shack, it'll say a number followed by the letter V. Are you using batteries? If you connect them end to end, like in a flashlight, you add the voltages together. Mine is a dc wall transformer, it runs 12v for 30-60 minutes, then I turn it over to reverse the polarity for another bit of time. Was this helpful? *From: *j.sherri beitharm...@gmail.com mailto:beitharm...@gmail.com *Date: *August 21, 2009 2:05:25 AM PDT *To: *silver-l...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Subject: **CSMaking first batch - Couple of questions?* Hi, I put up a bare bones generator and both rods are black one with barnacles. Not seeing any activity such as bubbles. It's been an hour. How long does it take for the tiny bubbles to start? Is that a perquisite even? Thanks so much, Joy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS Lyme test
Dave, this maintenance dose or 4 ounces a day; was it 4 ounces once a day, or divided dose, or what? Thanks, Dan On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 10:00 AM, Dave Darrindavedar...@gmail.com wrote: My three days may have been misleading as I didn't quit taking CS at that time. I went on a maintenance dose of four oz. A day for the next six years or so. Thereby keeping enough silver going through my blood stream to stop any further replication as the hidden ones came out oh hiding. Damn well worked for me. No flare ups--No more swollen inflamed joints--gradual lessening of brain fog(I'm still dumber than a stump)--No colds of flu or any other respiratory problems, I used to make so much snot I couldn't attend public affairs as I would have drowned in it. No more! The floaters have left my eyes--no more tennis elbow (I've had it in both elbows) My knees would crackle and pop and swell up to nearly the size of my waist--Each. I was on crutches and couldn't even walk across my kitchen without them. After the three day treatment with a little healing time I could out run an 18 year football player. That is a look at a Small And I repeat Small part of my Lyme experience, So Marshall and all you doubters WHAT IN THE HELL did I have. Dave On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 7:04 PM, Joseph Metz josephm...@comcast.net wrote: The various blood tests, Western Blot, etc., are not accurate because the Llyme bacteria doesn't stay in the blood for long, too easy for the imunne system to attack it. The Stricker panel CD 57 tests well for chronic lyme but isn't accepted by mainstream medical because Raphael Stricker didn't use a control group when he developed it. Smitty wrote: After 42 years of late Lyme I bought a CS maker from Wish granted.com and it took me three days to rid myself of Lyme. Did you have a test to determine if you were rid of Lyme ? Do they even have a test that will tell you with any accuracy. When I had Lyme the tests were over 50% unreliable. False positives AND negatives. They were a total waste of money. Marshall -- -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: Re: CSRE: Making first batch
You have a basic setup. The primary requirements are: Use only distilled water!!! if your container is a regular 8 ounce glass, the timing should be only 30 to 45 minutes max. What you made will work fine for your animal, but try for the above next time. Just wipe off your rods with a paper towel and you'll be good to go. Stay with us, and you'll get tips for refining your process and using your product. Chuck Never eat prunes when you're famished. On 8/22/2009 3:15:51 PM, j.sherri (beitharm...@gmail.com) wrote: Hi, I got these rods from this guy - Pdxsilverguydotcom - (that's how he writes it) on ebay. It was a hassle and a half just to get them - but he seemed decent and has good feedback - so ordered them. I didn't clean them before doing the batch - just rinsed them off. Basically - I just connected 4 9v's to the connectors - then took the red of one side and the black of the other side connected them to the rods with the alligator clips. The rods I bent at the top - put them through a plastic lid of a jar filled with the water. Waited - made some adjustments to the clips till I did see some particles rising and waited about 3 hours. Joy No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.64/2319 - Release Date: 08/22/09 06:06:00
[beitharm...@gmail.com: Re: Re: CSRE: Making first batch]
Hi Joy, I wouldn't recommend using the resulting brew for anything until you're sure you've actually got silver of at least .999 purity for electrodes. I get . (99.99% pure) from this site http://tinyurl.com/mnkj2t Never had any problems, and it's pretty cheap. BTW I reposted this to the list, so others might be able to comment -- hope you don't mind. Once in a while hitting reply sends mail to the poster's personal address instead of the list, I'm thinking that's probably what happened with this mail. HTH, -- /\ /\ \ / ^ 'v-v'B.Trig Hi, I got these rods from this guy - Pdxsilverguydotcom - (that's how he writes it) on ebay. It was a hassle and a half just to get them - but he seemed decent and has good feedback - so ordered them. I didn't clean them before doing the batch - just rinsed them off. Basically - I just connected 4 9v's to the connectors - then took the red of one side and the black of the other side connected them to the rods with the alligator clips. The rods I bent at the top - put them through a plastic lid of a jar filled with the water. Waited - made some adjustments to the clips till I did see some particles rising and waited about 3 hours. Joy B.Trig wrote: Hi Joy, I never saw that question the first time, not sure why that is... But Joseph is right, a description of your generator setup might help. Your electrodes should definitely not be black, especially not within an hour. Are you sure you're working with silver of at least .999 purity (i.e., 99.9% pure silver)? Also, a lot of us use those green scrubby pads to clean the silver electrodes. Maybe you had some sort of residue on there? As for the barnacles well, I do hope you're not using sea water! ;) -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: Re: CSRE: Making first batch
***smacks forehead*** Of *course*, the water! I tend to take that for granted -- /\ /\ \ / ^ 'v-v'B.Trig On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 04:15:38PM -0400, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote: You have a basic setup. The primary requirements are: Use only distilled water!!! if your container is a regular 8 ounce glass, the timing should be only 30 to 45 minutes max. What you made will work fine for your animal, but try for the above next time. Just wipe off your rods with a paper towel and you'll be good to go. Stay with us, and you'll get tips for refining your process and using your product. Chuck Never eat prunes when you're famished. On 8/22/2009 3:15:51 PM, j.sherri (beitharm...@gmail.com) wrote: Hi, I got these rods from this guy - Pdxsilverguydotcom - (that's how he writes it) on ebay. It was a hassle and a half just to get them - but he seemed decent and has good feedback - so ordered them. I didn't clean them before doing the batch - just rinsed them off. Basically - I just connected 4 9v's to the connectors - then took the red of one side and the black of the other side connected them to the rods with the alligator clips. The rods I bent at the top - put them through a plastic lid of a jar filled with the water. Waited - made some adjustments to the clips till I did see some particles rising and waited about 3 hours. Joy No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.64/2319 - Release Date: 08/22/09 06:06:00 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS Lyme test
I wasn't regimented with it some times it was once in the morning to wash down my supplements and some times I would drink another glass or two because I was thirsty. After all it is just Water with all the minerals removed and silver added no big deal except for the bugs. Dave On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote: Dave, this maintenance dose or 4 ounces a day; was it 4 ounces once a day, or divided dose, or what? Thanks, Dan On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 10:00 AM, Dave Darrindavedar...@gmail.com wrote: My three days may have been misleading as I didn't quit taking CS at that time. I went on a maintenance dose of four oz. A day for the next six years or so. Thereby keeping enough silver going through my blood stream to stop any further replication as the hidden ones came out oh hiding. Damn well worked for me. No flare ups--No more swollen inflamed joints--gradual lessening of brain fog(I'm still dumber than a stump)--No colds of flu or any other respiratory problems, I used to make so much snot I couldn't attend public affairs as I would have drowned in it. No more! The floaters have left my eyes--no more tennis elbow (I've had it in both elbows) My knees would crackle and pop and swell up to nearly the size of my waist--Each. I was on crutches and couldn't even walk across my kitchen without them. After the three day treatment with a little healing time I could out run an 18 year football player. That is a look at a Small And I repeat Small part of my Lyme experience, So Marshall and all you doubters WHAT IN THE HELL did I have. Dave On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 7:04 PM, Joseph Metz josephm...@comcast.net wrote: The various blood tests, Western Blot, etc., are not accurate because the Llyme bacteria doesn't stay in the blood for long, too easy for the imunne system to attack it. The Stricker panel CD 57 tests well for chronic lyme but isn't accepted by mainstream medical because Raphael Stricker didn't use a control group when he developed it. Smitty wrote: After 42 years of late Lyme I bought a CS maker from Wish granted.com and it took me three days to rid myself of Lyme. Did you have a test to determine if you were rid of Lyme ? Do they even have a test that will tell you with any accuracy. When I had Lyme the tests were over 50% unreliable. False positives AND negatives. They were a total waste of money. Marshall -- -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CStissue bed availability
Mr. B has posted that the oral admin. of the new C gets about 5 times the tissue bed availability that one gets from drinking just the C in water or juice, etc. and he and his group found that astounding. I am uncertain as to just what 'tissue bed availability' is. Anyone know? pj -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CScorrection tissue bed
Sorry, That is 5 times more effective than any other orally administered Vit. C and more rapid tissue bed availability. At any rate, what is tissue bed availability? Hope I got it right this time!! :) pj I'm super glad this isn't rocket science. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSGrave's disease
Hi Jean, Since Grave's is considered an autoimmune disease your friend (or you) might find that CMO (Cerasomal cis-9 cetyl Myristoleate) could be useful. Long name, for sure, but there are several hyped products calling themselves CMO that are not the right stuff so the name helps one distinguish. The basic idea is that CMO helps the immune system cool out, so it is much less likely to remain overstimulated and attack one's own self as an enemy. It doesn't damp down the immune system, more like re-educate it. There's quite a bit of info on the web, and some of Brooks Bradley's posts from a year or so ago go into it's use in some detail. Those posts can probably be found on Wayne Fugitt's archives; http://www.fugitt.com/cs_notes/ You'll maybe have to poke around a little . . . HTH, Malcolm On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 16:28 -0500, Jean Baugh wrote: Hi, Thank you to everyone for their information on Grave's disease. It has been passed on to the person who has this. Great list, great people! Thank you, Jean -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSGrave's disease
Hi Malcolm, I immediately passed on your information to my friend. They are in pretty bad shape from the sound of it. After thinking about it a bit, am beginning to think auto immune diseases are more common than uncommon. Very interesting information about re-educating your immune system. I've even wondered if aging might be an auto immune disease. Thank you, Jean * Since Grave's is considered an autoimmune disease your friend (or you) might find that CMO (Cerasomal cis-9 cetyl Myristoleate) could be useful. Long name, for sure, but there are several hyped products calling themselves CMO that are not the right stuff so the name helps one distinguish. The basic idea is that CMO helps the immune system cool out, so it is much less likely to remain overstimulated and attack one's own self as an enemy. It doesn't damp down the immune system, more like re-educate it. There's quite a bit of info on the web, and some of Brooks Bradley's posts from a year or so ago go into it's use in some detail. Those posts can probably be found on Wayne Fugitt's archives; http://www.fugitt.com/cs_notes/ You'll maybe have to poke around a little . . . HTH, Malcolm On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 16:28 -0500, Jean Baugh wrote: Hi, Thank you to everyone for their information on Grave's disease. It has been passed on to the person who has this. Great list, great people! Thank you, -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSBrooks: About GSH need. COMMENT.
GSH = Glutathione Sulfhydryl - from the trailing email of Brooks' email of
9/21/09
--- On Sat, 8/22/09, Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com wrote:
From: Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com
Subject: Re: CSBrooks: About GSH need. COMMENT.
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, August 22, 2009, 1:01 PM
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I don't know but the acronym is used for either Glutathione or Glutathione
Peroxidase.
- Steve N
From: sms s...@emotap.com
To: Norton, Steve
Sent: Sat Aug 22 14:19:29 2009
Subject: Re: CSBrooks: About GSH need. COMMENT.
Steve,
What is the SH part?
S-Max
---Original Message---
From: Norton, Steve
Date: 8/22/2009 11:53:03 AM
To: s...@emotap.com
Subject: Re: CSBrooks: About GSH need. COMMENT.
In this case it refers to Glutathione.
- Steve N
