Re: CS>Obama Declares Swine Flu A National Emergency
When he declares martial law, or did he ever recend it? We're in big trouble! From: Annie B Smythe To: CS List Sent: Sat, October 24, 2009 1:52:51 PM Subject: CS>Obama Declares Swine Flu A National Emergency Obama Declares Swine Flu A National Emergency http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=114132895&ft=1&f=1014 Well hang on folks! Here we go! If it's a national emergency, can they force you to take the vaccine? Annie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Obama Declares Swine Flu A National Emergency
They can`t force me, after all, I`m "allergic to eggs"...heh heh heh... Marshalee On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Annie B Smythe wrote: > > Obama Declares Swine Flu A National Emergency > > > http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=114132895&ft=1&f=1014 > > Well hang on folks! Here we go! If it's a national emergency, can they > force you to take the vaccine? > > > Annie > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > >
Re: CS>Obama Declares Swine Flu A National Emergency
They can`t force me, I`m "allergic to eggs"! heh heh heh... Marshalee On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Annie B Smythe wrote: > > Obama Declares Swine Flu A National Emergency > > > http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=114132895&ft=1&f=1014 > > Well hang on folks! Here we go! If it's a national emergency, can they > force you to take the vaccine? > > > Annie > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > >
CS>Obama Declares Swine Flu A National Emergency
Obama Declares Swine Flu A National Emergency http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=114132895&ft=1&f=1014 Well hang on folks! Here we go! If it's a national emergency, can they force you to take the vaccine? Annie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Raw Cider Vinegar
On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 8:44 PM, Malcolm wrote: > > > Find out WHAT "yeast" and how determined; i.e., skin test, etc. I've no idea what yeast. It was the test from www.food-detective.com. My nutritionist recommended it as the most reliable of the home tests, though she does admit it's got it's limits. Basically you take some blood, add it to the developer and pour it into this little tray (there's actually about 3 or 4 steps) and watch for a change in colour. I've tried various different elimination diets that the nutritionist put me on. This test was to see if there was anything we'd missed. There is a much more comprehensive test where you send the blood away but it's 5 times the price and I really can't afford it. I love mushrooms but then I also love a couple of other things I reacted with, eggs and oats. I reacted to all the grains and gluten, but we already knew that. I also reacted to eggs, tomatoes, lemons, oranges, grapefruit and soybean. I'm willing to just eliminate everything that showed up for a month or so and then try some of them one at a time. I just wondered about the raw apple cider vinegar since it took me so long to find it :-( Thanks for all the help Kirsteen
Re: CS>Raw Cider Vinegar
On Sat, 2009-10-24 at 19:59 +0100, Kirsteen Wright wrote: > Thanks for all the advice everyone. Of course, I'm still thoroughly > confused . > > I don't have candida (at least not as far as I know :-) But the food > intolerance test definitely showed a strong reaction to yeast. So if > the yeast is live I guess I should be avoiding it? On the other hand > I have low HCL (in fact I take a supplement for that) and was hoping > the raw apple cider vinegar would help with that. > > Why is life so complicated :-) Because We are. Find out WHAT "yeast" and how determined; i.e., skin test, etc. be wary of simplistic blanket judgements; try a food elimination test as with allergies. How do you do with mushrooms? > > Thanks > Kirsteen For adding to the confusion? oh, well. M. > > > -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Raw Cider Vinegar
Raw Apple cider vinegar is acceptable, but distilled vinegars may contain gluten. Donna ACS Hi, can anyone give me some advice please. I've recently started taking the raw cider vinegar in water. However, I've recently had a food intolerance test done and came up strongly positive for yeast (among other things). Obviously I have to avoid yeast and I believe this includes vinegar. Does this also include the raw cider vinegar? Any advice much appreciated. Thanks Kirsteen -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Raw Cider Vinegar
Hi Kirsteen and Sol, I'm not dogmatic about this, you can check it out for yourselves, but as with wine, many fermentation processes are self-limiting; i.e., the alcohol or acetic acid or whatever the bugs produce in a limited environment like a wine or vinegar vat or a saurkraut crock eventually poisons them and so limits the fermentation process. This is not to say NONE of them survive, or perhaps more significantly their spores. OTOH, there are a number of aerobic and even partially anaerobic organisms lumped into the "yeast" category, with widely varying products of fermentation or other exudates depending on their environment. The commonest example is baker's/brewer's yeast which can produce alcohol and/or carbon dioxide depending on the concentrations of not only air, CO2, and alcohol but also temperature. The kingdom of fungi, from molds and yeasts to mushrooms and other strange beasts like walking slime molds is phylogenetically more like us than any bacterium, archaeo- or complex. This makes it much more difficult to defend ourselves against their involvement with us and much more risky to try to poison them out of our systems; we're much more likely to poison ourselves as well. An interesting book you might find enjoyable as well as informative about fungi: "Magical Mushrooms, Mischevious Molds" by George W. Hudler Take care, Malcolm On Sat, 2009-10-24 at 11:49 -0600, sol wrote: > Kirsteen Wright wrote: > > Hi, can anyone give me some advice please. I've recently started taking > > the raw cider vinegar in water. However, I've recently had a food > > intolerance test done and came up strongly positive for yeast (among > > other things). Obviously I have to avoid yeast and I believe this > > includes vinegar. Does this also include the raw cider vinegar? > > My own opinion is it would mean raw cider vinegar. It is not pasteurized > so the yeasts in it are alive. > sol > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > >
Re: CS>Raw Cider Vinegar
Thanks for all the advice everyone. Of course, I'm still thoroughly confused . I don't have candida (at least not as far as I know :-) But the food intolerance test definitely showed a strong reaction to yeast. So if the yeast is live I guess I should be avoiding it? On the other hand I have low HCL (in fact I take a supplement for that) and was hoping the raw apple cider vinegar would help with that. Why is life so complicated :-) Thanks Kirsteen
Re: CS>Raw Cider Vinegar
There is so much conflicting information about ACV and candida. I do have candida and I have not experienced any problems with the yeast when using ACV. I do use Braggs organic with the mother. ACV helps the stomach produce more HCL, for better digestion. I understand it to be alkalizing as well. Yeasts will feed on undigested food and ACV helps with better digestion, so my thought is whether you have candida or not, ACV is helpful and eventually will disperse of the source of food for candida, but I don't for one minute believe it makes candida worse. Diane - Original Message - From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 2:28 PM Subject: Re: CS>Raw Cider Vinegar I believe someone posted that raw cider vinegar with mother, is good to use against yeast. But I believe this is arguable. dee On 24 Oct 2009, at 15:45, Kirsteen Wright wrote: > Hi, can anyone give me some advice please. I've recently started > taking the raw cider vinegar in water. However, I've recently had a > food intolerance test done and came up strongly positive for yeast > (among other things). Obviously I have to avoid yeast and I believe > this includes vinegar. Does this also include the raw cider vinegar? > > Any advice much appreciated. > > Thanks > Kirsteen -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.31/2457 - Release Date: 10/24/09 14:31:00
Re: CS>Raw Cider Vinegar
I believe someone posted that raw cider vinegar with mother, is good to use against yeast. But I believe this is arguable. dee On 24 Oct 2009, at 15:45, Kirsteen Wright wrote: Hi, can anyone give me some advice please. I've recently started taking the raw cider vinegar in water. However, I've recently had a food intolerance test done and came up strongly positive for yeast (among other things). Obviously I have to avoid yeast and I believe this includes vinegar. Does this also include the raw cider vinegar? Any advice much appreciated. Thanks Kirsteen -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Raw Cider Vinegar
Kirsteen Wright wrote: Hi, can anyone give me some advice please. I've recently started taking the raw cider vinegar in water. However, I've recently had a food intolerance test done and came up strongly positive for yeast (among other things). Obviously I have to avoid yeast and I believe this includes vinegar. Does this also include the raw cider vinegar? My own opinion is it would mean raw cider vinegar. It is not pasteurized so the yeasts in it are alive. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Raw Cider Vinegar
yes, probably. Of course, you can do anything that makes sense to you. Anything that is fermented has similar types of fermentation byproducts that one can be sensitive to, so they can be thought of as a group. Sometimes these sensitivities need to be observed for a period of time only, other times one needs to avoid them for life. Experimentation can help determine this. Kathryn On Oct 24, 2009, at 9:45 AM, Kirsteen Wright wrote: Hi, can anyone give me some advice please. I've recently started taking the raw cider vinegar in water. However, I've recently had a food intolerance test done and came up strongly positive for yeast (among other things). Obviously I have to avoid yeast and I believe this includes vinegar. Does this also include the raw cider vinegar? Any advice much appreciated. Thanks Kirsteen -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>CS
Great post, Dan, thanks. On Oct 23, 2009, at 10:28 PM, Dan Nave wrote: From an old post of mine. I'll just leave it all in and give credit where credit is due... When I started looking into how to make CS one of the main problems I encountered was how to customize my setup for the materials I might have access to, how to tell when the CS was done, and what concentration it was. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Raw Cider Vinegar
Hi, can anyone give me some advice please. I've recently started taking the raw cider vinegar in water. However, I've recently had a food intolerance test done and came up strongly positive for yeast (among other things). Obviously I have to avoid yeast and I believe this includes vinegar. Does this also include the raw cider vinegar? Any advice much appreciated. Thanks Kirsteen
Re: CS>can anyone make a suggestion about an open wound
I repeat: Investigate Silverlon dressings. They have solved all these issues. This is one of the areas where colloidal silver has gone mainstream with huge success. They have a dressing specifically for healing surgical incisions. It allows the wound to drain and breathe while protecting against infection. Also stimulates healing (as silver is known to do) and reduces pain. Ask your doctor about it. http://www.silverlon.com:80/index.htm Del - Original Message - From: "Garnet" To: Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 11:13 PM Subject: Re: CS>can anyone make a suggestion about an open wound A 20% DMSO 80% EIS compress is not a bad way to go. Although it is not the best way to deal with large areas of tissue destruction, it might be good for an incision. The type of wound she has can take a long time to heal. It is going to weep a lot and needs to be kept open and draining as it heal from the inside out. Closing it prematurely will cause infection. There are wound care specialists, generally a plastic surgeon. I used a wound care clinic when I had a bad dog bite wound, that killed off the skin and dermal layers down to the muscle. It was a whole new world, much like burn treatment, healing the area. Took a month to heal a 1.75 " area as the skin had to grow in from the sides, it is pure scar tissue. Garnet -- http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Very_Low_Dose_Naltrexone http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA Clayton Family wrote: I assume that it is an opening into the abdominal cavity. An incision into the body is often left to heal on it's own these days since the chance of infection is so great if it is sewed shut. It can take some weeks to close on its own. I would be tempted to get some silver bandages to use over it, even though they are pretty spendy. Alternatively, keeping a gauze dampened with CS might just do the same thing as far as keeping it from getting infected. I would be tempted to ask the doctor if a silver dressing would make the skin heal too fast- maybe they don't want it to close too soon, due to risk of infection. Kathryn On Oct 23, 2009, at 11:42 AM, Bernadette wrote: My friend was diagnosed with stage 4 ovarian cancer. They discovered it on a Thursday and on the following Tuesday she was operated on and everything "female" was taken out. They closed up her belly-button since a lymph node was pushing through (that is how they found out about the ovarian cancer). Now the incision will not heal properly. She is on chemo for 1 year - going once a week (three weeks on and one week off). Other than the cancer she is in excellent health. She is 66 years old. Would CS help heal this type of open wound? She wrote the following: "As far as my opening the Dr. said that there is nothing more he can do. TO reopen it they would have to stop the cemo and that becomes a real problem in the chances are the cemo would not work. So we will go with the cemo and hope that maybe this will close on its own. There is that chance. It is not in fected at this time and if I keep it clean it should be fine." She is willing to try different approaches - I would like to give her some suggestions and then she can make up her own mind as to try them or not. Thank you for any help you could afford her. Bernadette -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
