Re: CSwater distiller

2009-11-06 Thread Ode Coyote



  Using hot water to start actually speeds things up without being 
detrimental to the finish...the water cools off before temperature can play 
a role.
 Anything below about 120 deg F doesn't seem to have too much kinetic 
energy in it, making particles collide with each other  and ions oxidize fast.
 Of course, at first, there are very few ions or particles TO 
collide...which is why it goes so slow at first...nothing much there to 
transport the electricity either.


Ode



At 07:54 PM 11/5/2009 +, you wrote:

just to say I have just received my new OdeV water distiller (plus
correct lead lol) and have done one batch.  It has taken six hours
but I think if I put in hot water from the kettle this could cut this
time down a bit.  I am anxiously watching the electric meter here and
it is blipping quite fast!  I have to do another trial run to make
sure there isn't any oil residue left and then I can start making my
water for CS.  Does anyone know if it would be detrimental to use hot
water?  thanks.  dee


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CSLyposomal C

2009-11-06 Thread mukta1

Hi group,

I did not found granulated lecithin where I live, only capsules. Is  
there some other kind of oily stuff that can replace lecithin ? If  
someone had any succes with a different oil please share it with us.


Simeon

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навсякъде в България
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Re: CSlanguage

2009-11-06 Thread MaryAnn Helland
Yeah, yeah -- blahh-blahh-blahh.  You're very predictable Malcolm, and tiresome.
MA





From: Malcolm s...@asis.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 1:01:05 AM
Subject: Re: CSlanguage

 ... so I won't discuss it further -- except to say that it's a relief
to me to not have to read her negative-ness on a daily basis. MA

Or: 'I won't discuss it further, except to discuss it further'  And
further, and further . . .

 ... The shame is that she just couldn't convey her opinions without
rudeness and condescension.

And you?  You were both rude and condescending from the get, and I
called you on it then.

On Thu, 2009-11-05 at 13:40 -0800, MaryAnn Helland wrote:
 Well Malcolm, 
  
 You're exactly who I expected to object to my post.  

Yup.  After two days of them, you betcha!

Praise??  exactly??  Tried to??  Once AGAIN??  How many times is
that?  Ah, yes; I remember now from the 'chicken squawk posts', the
long-suffering, patient, but finally driven - forced - to mild
remonstrance MaryAnn.
The words with quotes above are not direct, not honest in any real sense
and neither forthright nor called for in the context.  Perhaps it's just
a natural - if unrecognized - rhetorical talent in your speech?
Perhaps not.

 And once again, you praise Indi for exactly what you tried to
 criticize in my post.  My remarks were direct, honest and forthright.
 Nothing sideways about it.

Please understand I do NOT object to your distaste for Indi or for her
posts and expressed opinions, that is between the two of you.  But if
you can't see the nature and effect of your word usage . . . . .  well,
you can't; or maybe it's just too tempting, and the debbil makes you do
it??

 Got it?

Shore; hey, sauce for the goose is indeed sauce for the gander;  point
for the dark side.  g
  
 MA

How 'bout moving this off topic (OS) or off list, the main question has
been answered more than adequately; the rest is just frosting.
Malcolm
 
 
 
 __
 From: Malcolm s...@asis.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Thu, November 5, 2009 2:01:29 PM
 Subject: Re: CSIndi
 
 Well, MaryAnn,
 
 I think Mark Antony did something obversely similar when he opened his
 oration in the play by Shakespeare: 
 I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him. and proceeded to castigate
 Brutus and the senate for assassinating Caesar on the senate floor.
 
 One thing you could say in favor of Indi's behavior - she was direct,
 honest and forthright in expressing herself; no sideways little digs.
 
 Got it?
 Malcolm
 
 On Thu, 2009-11-05 at 06:13 -0800, MaryAnn Helland wrote:
  She certainly is.  The shame is that she just couldn't convey her
  opinions without rudeness and condescension.  I realize that there
 are
  a couple of people on this list who will object to my opinion on
 this
  topic -- so I won't discuss it further -- except to say that it's a
  relief to me to not have to read her negative-ness on a daily basis.
  MA
  
  
  
 
 __
  From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Thu, November 5, 2009 3:57:17 AM
  Subject: Re: CSIndi
  
  Oh what a shame, she is a very knowledgeable person.  dee 
  
  On 4 Nov 2009, at 20:16, MaryAnn Helland wrote:
  
   Dee -- Indi voluntarily left the list several months ago -- rather
   than comply with Mike's request to *play nice*.  MA
   
   
   
  
 
  
  
 
 
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CSX PPM to start process

2009-11-06 Thread Max Schanfarber
I bought a water distiller and TDS meter.  After distilling the water
it reads 5 PPM.  Is this good enough to make CS?

Thanks,
Maxi


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Re: CSlanguage

2009-11-06 Thread Alan Jones
Please stop.

On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 1:01 AM, Malcolm s...@asis.com wrote:
  ... so I won't discuss it further -- except to say that it's a relief
 to me to not have to read her negative-ness on a daily basis. MA

 Or: 'I won't discuss it further, except to discuss it further'  And
 further, and further . . .

  ... The shame is that she just couldn't convey her opinions without
 rudeness and condescension.

 And you?  You were both rude and condescending from the get, and I
 called you on it then.

 On Thu, 2009-11-05 at 13:40 -0800, MaryAnn Helland wrote:
 Well Malcolm,

 You're exactly who I expected to object to my post.

 Yup.  After two days of them, you betcha!

 Praise??  exactly??  Tried to??  Once AGAIN??  How many times is
 that?  Ah, yes; I remember now from the 'chicken squawk posts', the
 long-suffering, patient, but finally driven - forced - to mild
 remonstrance MaryAnn.
 The words with quotes above are not direct, not honest in any real sense
 and neither forthright nor called for in the context.  Perhaps it's just
 a natural - if unrecognized - rhetorical talent in your speech?
 Perhaps not.

 And once again, you praise Indi for exactly what you tried to
 criticize in my post.  My remarks were direct, honest and forthright.
 Nothing sideways about it.

 Please understand I do NOT object to your distaste for Indi or for her
 posts and expressed opinions, that is between the two of you.  But if
 you can't see the nature and effect of your word usage . . . . .  well,
 you can't; or maybe it's just too tempting, and the debbil makes you do
 it??

 Got it?

 Shore; hey, sauce for the goose is indeed sauce for the gander;  point
 for the dark side.  g

 MA

 How 'bout moving this off topic (OS) or off list, the main question has
 been answered more than adequately; the rest is just frosting.
 Malcolm



 __
 From: Malcolm s...@asis.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Thu, November 5, 2009 2:01:29 PM
 Subject: Re: CSIndi

 Well, MaryAnn,

 I think Mark Antony did something obversely similar when he opened his
 oration in the play by Shakespeare:
 I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him. and proceeded to castigate
 Brutus and the senate for assassinating Caesar on the senate floor.

 One thing you could say in favor of Indi's behavior - she was direct,
 honest and forthright in expressing herself; no sideways little digs.

 Got it?
 Malcolm

 On Thu, 2009-11-05 at 06:13 -0800, MaryAnn Helland wrote:
  She certainly is.  The shame is that she just couldn't convey her
  opinions without rudeness and condescension.  I realize that there
 are
  a couple of people on this list who will object to my opinion on
 this
  topic -- so I won't discuss it further -- except to say that it's a
  relief to me to not have to read her negative-ness on a daily basis.
  MA
 
 
 
 
 __
  From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Thu, November 5, 2009 3:57:17 AM
  Subject: Re: CSIndi
 
  Oh what a shame, she is a very knowledgeable person.  dee
 
  On 4 Nov 2009, at 20:16, MaryAnn Helland wrote:
 
   Dee -- Indi voluntarily left the list several months ago -- rather
   than comply with Mike's request to *play nice*.  MA
  
  
  
  
 
 
 


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Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: CSMy adventures in Lip. Encaps. Vits.

2009-11-06 Thread Marshall Dudley
What advantage dos liposomal Alpha Lipoic Acid  have over normal Alpha 
Lipoic Acid ?


Thanks,

Marshall

Acmeair wrote:




Nov 5, 2009 03:05:44 PM, res00...@verizon.net 
mailto:res00...@verizon.net wrote:





Aug 31, 2009 02:57:00 PM, res00...@verizon.net
mailto:res00...@verizon.net wrote:

hey sandy,  you're heading down the path that i am. let's keep
the info stream acoming.  vita c, l-proline, and l-lysine is
the linus pauling's heart recipe. kelp and tumeric are
interesting.thanks,jim from  livingston


Aug 31, 2009 02:03:45 PM, silver-list@eskimo.com
mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com wrote:


Hi all
 
I guess at this point it could be said Brooks has created

a monster. :)
 
After my first several batches of Vit C which continued to

separate I decided to try a different Vit C powder. I came
to realize the C I bought at the health food store had buffers
so I ordered a better C without any additives. While I
waited for my C to arrive I decided to try making
liposomal d-ribose. It turned out perfect!...nice creamy
color with absolutely no separation. ah ha...I then felt
sure when my vit C arrived it would turn out exactly as it
was supposed to.
 
My C came today, I made it and it turned out perfect! So

far I have also made liposomal L-Lysine and liposomal
Alpha Lipoic Acid which also turned out perfect! B-Complex
and Marine Kelp is next on my list. For some reason I
cannot take iodine so I am hoping liposomal kelp will work
for me.
 
Something else I did differently was to stop blending my

lecithin for as long as I had before...maybe only 10
seconds now. I believe these small adjustments make a
difference. I also process my mixtures for 8 min [4 cycles
in the UC] instead of the 6.
 
Did I mention turmeric? ha ha
 
Best regards...


Sandy in Texas

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Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: CSMy adventures in Lip. Encaps. Vits.

2009-11-06 Thread Garnet

Just wanted to say that ALA varies greatly in quality and to
be sure it is not coming from China when you buy.

Dr Bert Burkson was head of ALA investigations for the
FDA when he was at the NIH. He uses ALA in treating
cancer, often by IV. He is now in private practice
and is the director of the Integrative Medicine Center of New
Mexico, located in Las Cruces, and is the author of
The Alpha-Lipoic Acid Breakthrough.

Garnet

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Marshall Dudley wrote:
What advantage dos liposomal Alpha Lipoic Acid  have over normal Alpha 
Lipoic Acid ?


Thanks,

Marshall

Acmeair wrote:




Nov 5, 2009 03:05:44 PM, res00...@verizon.net 
mailto:res00...@verizon.net wrote:





Aug 31, 2009 02:57:00 PM, res00...@verizon.net
mailto:res00...@verizon.net wrote:

hey sandy,  you're heading down the path that i am. let's keep
the info stream acoming.  vita c, l-proline, and l-lysine is
the linus pauling's heart recipe. kelp and tumeric are
interesting.thanks,jim from  livingston


Aug 31, 2009 02:03:45 PM, silver-list@eskimo.com
mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com wrote:


Hi all
 I guess at this point it could be said Brooks 
has created

a monster. :)
 After my first several batches of Vit C which 
continued to

separate I decided to try a different Vit C powder. I came
to realize the C I bought at the health food store had 
buffers

so I ordered a better C without any additives. While I
waited for my C to arrive I decided to try making
liposomal d-ribose. It turned out perfect!...nice creamy
color with absolutely no separation. ah ha...I then felt
sure when my vit C arrived it would turn out exactly as it
was supposed to.
 My C came today, I made it and it turned out 
perfect! So

far I have also made liposomal L-Lysine and liposomal
Alpha Lipoic Acid which also turned out perfect! B-Complex
and Marine Kelp is next on my list. For some reason I
cannot take iodine so I am hoping liposomal kelp will work
for me.
 Something else I did differently was to stop 
blending my

lecithin for as long as I had before...maybe only 10
seconds now. I believe these small adjustments make a
difference. I also process my mixtures for 8 min [4 cycles
in the UC] instead of the 6.
 Did I mention turmeric? ha ha
 Best regards...

Sandy in Texas

Live and let live...


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RE: CSLyposomal C / LECITHIN powder from sunflower seeds

2009-11-06 Thread Nenah Sylver
 

Hi group,

 

I did not found granulated lecithin where I live, only capsules. Is  

there some other kind of oily stuff that can replace lecithin ? If  

someone had any succes with a different oil please share it with us.

 

Simeon

-

 

For those who are allergic to soy or egg lecithin, here's lecithin POWDER
from sunflower seeds. I have not tried it.

 

http://www.austradeinc.com/non-soy-lecithin-powder.html 

 

Nenah



CSGeneration Rescue Supports Desiree Jennings

2009-11-06 Thread paul catania
 Generation Rescue Supports Desiree Jennings, Washington Redskin 
Cheerleader Disabled by Flu Shot

 For Immediate Release: November 3, 2009
 Los Angeles, CA: The parents of Generation Rescue, a nonprofit 
organization dedicated to preventing and reversing autism, wish to express 
their hope and prayers for the complete recovery of Desiree Jennings from 
the injuries she suffered after receiving a flu shot.
 Desiree's tragic story has become a national sensation, with multiple 
news stories and more than 5 million viewings of her heart-wrenching journey 
on YouTube. We're grateful that Ms. Jennings has had the courage to share 
her story with the world, and we're hopeful that even more Americans will 
wake up to the reality that vaccines can prevent disease, but also have side 
effects. For certain more sensitive individuals, and as evidenced through 
Desiree Jennings' experience, these side effects can sometimes be 
devastating.
 Many parents of children with autism would not be surprised to see 
that the vaccine makers have mounted a response to Ms. Jenning's 
heart-wrenching story. We've seen doctors on TV, who have never examined Ms. 
Jennings themselves, speculate that her injury is all in her head, a 
psychogenic disorder. This is an astonishing breakdown in medical ethics 
and reminds many of us in the autism world of the days when we were told 
that autism was caused by cold mothers. Today, the same denialism exists 
when a child recovers from autism -- the talking heads appear to pontificate 
that the autism must have never existed.
 Few Americans realize that our government maintains a Vaccine Adverse 
Event Reporting System and a fund to pay for vaccine injury, which so far 
has paid out nearly $2 billion to compensate the families of the 
vaccine-injured, which includes more than 11,000 injuries and 1,000 deaths. 
Do vaccines save lives? Absolutely. Can they also cause harm? Our government 
certainly thinks so.
 According to media reports, Ms. Jennings was suffering from a medical 
condition known as dystonia. Contrary to reports from doctors on TV who 
claim that a vaccine could never cause dystonia, the condition dystonia is 
listed in the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System as a possible side 
effect from vaccines and there are 67 reports of dystonia in the system. Any 
journalist could validate these 67 reports.
 Ms. Jennings experience, in many ways, parallels the experience of our 
children, who many of us watched regress into autism after the 
administration of multiple vaccines. Unlike our children, Ms. Jennings can 
speak and share her experience with the world. We have been pleased to learn 
that Ms. Jennings is being treated by medical doctors who are experts in 
dealing with vaccine injury, that her symptoms have measurably improved, and 
that the hopes of her family that she makes a full recovery are stronger 
than ever.
 We have no doubt that Ms. Jennings will, on a timeframe that allows 
for her recovery and works for her, tell her story to the world. This is Ms. 
Jennings' story, and we eagerly await a positive outcome. Our prayers are 
with her and her family.

 Please add yours!






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Re: CSX PPM to start process

2009-11-06 Thread Clayton Family
You could run it through the distiller again, to see if it gets any  
better.


Wouldn't kill you but not ideal.

On Nov 6, 2009, at 9:19 AM, Max Schanfarber wrote:


I bought a water distiller and TDS meter.  After distilling the water
it reads 5 PPM.  Is this good enough to make CS?

Thanks,
Maxi



Re: CSwater distiller

2009-11-06 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
Thanks Ode, I have done the two first batches which have to be thrown,  
and I had a taste of one.  It took about five and a half hours whereas  
it took 6 and a half from cold.  I must say I didn't like it much -  
just the same as I didn't like the one I used to buy.  It has a bitter  
sort of taste, not like tap water at all.  I tested it with the TDS  
meter though, and it says 000 just the same as the one I buy, so  
hopefully it will be fine for CS.  Don't think I'd drink it though!  dee


On 6 Nov 2009, at 09:44, Ode Coyote wrote:




 Using hot water to start actually speeds things up without being  
detrimental to the finish...the water cools off before temperature  
can play a role.
Anything below about 120 deg F doesn't seem to have too much kinetic  
energy in it, making particles collide with each other  and ions  
oxidize fast.
Of course, at first, there are very few ions or particles TO  
collide...which is why it goes so slow at first...nothing much there  
to transport the electricity either.


Ode






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Re: CSX PPM to start process

2009-11-06 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
Is this just the ordinary TDS meter not a COM-100?  I have the  
ordinary one and mine reads 000  dee


On 6 Nov 2009, at 15:19, Max Schanfarber wrote:


I bought a water distiller and TDS meter.  After distilling the water
it reads 5 PPM.  Is this good enough to make CS?

Thanks,
Maxi





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Re: CSwater distiller

2009-11-06 Thread Kirsteen Wright
On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org wrote:

 .  Don't think I'd drink it though!  dee


 No, I have to admit i wouldn't choose it as drinking water. i just use
filtered tap water for that.

Cheers
Kirsteen


Re: CSMy adventures in Lip. Encaps. Vits.

2009-11-06 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick

I always get the Doctors Best R-ALA.  dee

On 6 Nov 2009, at 16:01, Garnet wrote:


Just wanted to say that ALA varies greatly in quality and to
be sure it is not coming from China when you buy.

Dr Bert Burkson was head of ALA investigations for the
FDA when he was at the NIH. He uses ALA in treating
cancer, often by IV. He is now in private practice
and is the director of the Integrative Medicine Center of New
Mexico, located in Las Cruces, and is the author of
The Alpha-Lipoic Acid Breakthrough.

Garnet




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CSsilver gel

2009-11-06 Thread Bethany Methven
Could anyone give me some ideas with making a colloidal silver gel?  I have 
been trying to use beeswax beads, coconut oil, small amount of vit. E oil and 
colloidal silver gel.  I am having a hard time getting the oils and waxes to 
blend with the silver water.  It keeps separating, even when I bring it to a 
very high temperature in a double broiler.  Is there some sort of natural agent 
that would break down the oils so that they can mix with the water.  When the 
gel sets up at the end,  I have a hard top of waxy stuff and then silver 
water liquid at the bottom.   I would love any ideas. 
 
Thanks  -  Beth


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Re: CSsilver gel

2009-11-06 Thread Dan Nave
You might try a little lecithin.

Dan

On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Bethany Methven mrs_ak_h...@yahoo.comwrote:

   Could anyone give me some ideas with making a colloidal silver gel?  I
 have been trying to use beeswax beads, coconut oil, small amount of vit. E
 oil and colloidal silver gel.  I am having a hard time getting the oils and
 waxes to blend with the silver water.  It keeps separating, even when I
 bring it to a very high temperature in a double broiler.  Is there some sort
 of natural agent that would break down the oils so that they can mix with
 the water.  When the gel sets up at the end,  I have a hard top of waxy
 stuff and then silver water liquid at the bottom.   I would love any ideas.

 Thanks  -  Beth

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Re: CSsilver gel

2009-11-06 Thread MaryAnn Helland
Hi Beth.  Our Ode sells a kit to do this.  Go to www.silverpuppy.com.
MA





From: Bethany Methven mrs_ak_h...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 12:10:29 PM
Subject: CSsilver gel


Could anyone give me some ideas with making a colloidal silver gel?  I have 
been trying to use beeswax beads, coconut oil, small amount of vit. E oil and 
colloidal silver gel.  I am having a hard time getting the oils and waxes to 
blend with the silver water.  It keeps separating, even when I bring it to a 
very high temperature in a double broiler.  Is there some sort of natural agent 
that would break down the oils so that they can mix with the water.  When the 
gel sets up at the end,  I have a hard top of waxy stuff and then silver 
water liquid at the bottom.   I would love any ideas. 

Thanks  -  Beth


Methven Colloidal Silver - Try a natural antibiotic that has been used for 
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CSFw: Pyrex dishes warning

2009-11-06 Thread Peter Converse
Hi All,

You might be interested in this:


- Original Message - 



  Pyrex dishes:I HOPE EVERYONE TAKES THE TIME TO READ THIS MESSAGE.

  Got any new Pyrex dishes in your cooking utensils? This is a must read.

  I Checked at Walmart and all the warnings are there.

  About 5:30 PM there was a loud bang from the oven.  Sylvia opened the 
oven door and the Pyrex dish had shattered into a million pieces.


  The roast beef (our first in many months) was peppered with small shards 
of very sharp glass.  Normally, I am quick to inform Sylvia she did something 
stupid. However,this time she was nowhere near the stove when it blew.  I 
shoveled the glass and the now mashed potatoes into a bucket with two putty 
knives.  I then sucked the remains with the shop vac.  I let everything cool 
down and then scrubbed the oven with Simple Green and some hot soapy water.  It 
took over an hour to clean up the goo.  Upon completion I ran the oven empty to 
see if the temperature controller was working okay.  I suspected the oven got 
too hot and the dish simply blew.  This was not the case however. The oven came 
up to temperature and cycled normally.   We threw a disgusting frozen pizza in 
the oven and it cooked okay.

   What is going on?

  I Googled exploding Pyrex dishes and got ten million hits.  Exploding 
Pyrex is very common. Here is the story: A long, long time ago in a country we 
all know and love was a
  company named Corning.  They made Pyrex dishes.  The material they used 
is called borosilicate glass.  This stuff is indestructible.


  But like everything else, the Bottom Liners had a great idea:  sell the 
technology to another company.  The Chinese discovered that using soda lime 
glass was almost as good as borosilicate glass and a lot cheaper.   Today, 
Walmart is the largest distributor of Pyrex products.  Corning not only sold 
the technology to a company called
  World Kitchen, they also sold the rights to the original Pyrex logo.


  Seamless.  The consumer will never know.

  Now it seems people are getting hurt using soda lime Pyrex.  We were 
lucky because the dish broke while the oven was closed and the damage was 
limited to the oven cavity.  Others have been less fortunate.  Some dishes 
explode when they are lifted from the heating rack in the oven with devastating 
results.  Some people are heavily scarred.  World Kitchen is in denial.  They 
say that the dishes are another brand, not theirs.  Contrary to their denials 
the victims usually have more than one of these dishes and the Pyrex logo is 
clearly visible.

  If you buy a Pyrex dish beware.  The label on the front says oven safe, 
freezer safe, microwave safe.  The instructions on the back tell another story. 
 You cannot move a soda lime Pyrex dish from the freezer to the oven and expect 
it to survive.  The fine print goes on and on about what you are not allowed to 
do with the Pyrex dish.  The fine print has prevented World Kitchen from being 
sued because they have warned the consumer that their Pyrex dishes are junk 
from the get go.  And they are the same price as the original Corning dishes.


  What a bunch of losers we all are for buying this crap.   What to do?


  If you own borosilicate Pyrex dishes, no fear.  They have to be more than 
25 years old to be sure they are indeed Corning dishes.  I am not sure if the 
old Pyrex dishes have anything stamped in them that indicates they are made by 
Corning.  You may continue to use the soda lime dishes for holding stuff.  Just 
do not attempt to roast or microwave with them as the hazard is very clear.

  The reason the soda lime dishes let go is that over time they develop 
micro-cracks.  Once a few micro-cracks are present and once some liquid finds 
its way into the cracks you have the bomb situation.  The liquid is like 
shoving a crowbar in the dish and pulling it apart.  Super heated liquids 
expand rapidly and it is the super heated liquids that force the soda lime 
glass to shatter into tens of thousands of shards.

  Since Corning no longer makes Pyrex and Sylvia proudly holds a large 
collection of the soda lime Pyrex, we decided that one bomb in the kitchen is 
enough.  The P Pyrex dishes will go bye-bye in this week's trash.  I do not 
know what we will use for cake and pie dishes going forward .  If you have some 
suggestions we are listening.

  I strongly urge you not to use the soda lime Pyrex for the oven, stovetop 
or microwave.  The slightest invisible crack is all it takes to have a mess and 
a possible injury.

  In case you are wondering: World Kitchen is not a USA company.
 

I went to Snopes  checked this out.  Be careful when using Pyrex.  --   
http://www.snopes.com/food/warnings/pyrex.asp



You can also click on the above Snopes address for the same verification.


Peter

Re: CSFw: Pyrex dishes warning

2009-11-06 Thread MaryAnn Helland
Suggest that everyone read the Snopes account of this topic.
MA





From: Peter Converse pconve...@primus.ca
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 1:25:04 PM
Subject: CSFw: Pyrex dishes warning


Hi All,
 
You might be interested in this:
 
 
- Original Message - 
 

Pyrex dishes:    I HOPE EVERYONE TAKES THE TIME TO READ THIS MESSAGE.

Got anynewPyrex dishes in your cooking utensils? This is a must read.

I Checked at Walmart and all the warnings are there.

About 5:30 PM there was a loud bang from the oven.  Sylvia opened the oven door 
and the Pyrex dish had shattered into a million pieces.

The roast beef (our first in many months) was peppered with small shards of 
very sharp glass.  Normally, I am quick to inform Sylvia she did something 
stupid. However,this time she was nowhere near the stove when it blew.  I 
shoveled the glass and the now mashed potatoes into a bucket with two putty 
knives.  I then sucked the remains with the shop vac.  I let everything cool 
down and then scrubbed the oven with Simple Green and some hot soapy water.  It 
took over an hour to clean up the goo.  Upon completion I ran the oven empty to 
see if the temperature controller was working okay.  I suspected the oven 
got too hot and the dish simply blew.  This was not the case however. The oven 
came up to temperature and cycled normally.   We threw a disgusting frozen 
pizza in the oven and it cooked okay.

 What is going on?

I Googled exploding Pyrex dishes and got ten million hits.  Exploding Pyrex is 
very common. Here is the story: A long, long time ago in a country we all know 
and love was a
company named Corning.  They made Pyrex dishes.  The material they used is 
called borosilicate glass.  This stuff is indestructible.

But like everything else, the Bottom Liners had a great idea:  sell the 
technology to another company.  TheChinesediscovered that using soda lime glass 
was almost as good as borosilicate glass and a lot cheaper.   Today, Walmart is 
the largest distributor of Pyrex products.  Corning not only sold the 
technology to a company called
World Kitchen, they also sold the rights to the original Pyrex logo.

Seamless.  The consumer will never know.

Now it seems people are getting hurt using soda lime Pyrex.  We were lucky 
because the dish broke while the oven was closed and the damage was limited to 
the oven cavity.  Others have been less fortunate.  Some dishes explode when 
they are lifted from the heating rack in the oven with devastating results.  
Some people are heavily scarred.  World Kitchen is in denial.  They say that 
the dishes are another brand, not theirs.  Contrary to their denials the 
victims usually have more than one of these dishes and the Pyrex logo 
is clearly visible.

If you buy a Pyrex dish beware.  The label on the front says oven safe, freezer 
safe, microwave safe.  The instructions on the back tell another story.  You 
cannot move a soda lime Pyrex dish from the freezer to the oven and expect it 
to survive.  The fine print goes on and on about what you are not allowed to do 
with the Pyrex dish.  The fine print has prevented World Kitchen from being 
sued because they have warned the consumer that their Pyrex dishes are junk 
from the get go.  And they are the same price as the original Corning dishes.

What a bunch of losers we all are for buying this crap.   What to do?

If you own borosilicate Pyrex dishes, no fear.  They have to be more than 25 
years old to be sure they are indeed Corning dishes.  I am not sure if the old 
Pyrex dishes have anything stamped in them that indicates they are made by 
Corning.  You may continue to use the soda lime dishes for holding stuff.  Just 
do not attempt to roast or microwave with them as the hazard is very clear.

The reason the soda lime dishes let go is that over time they develop 
micro-cracks.  Once a few micro-cracks are present and once some liquid finds 
its way into the cracks you have the bomb situation.  The liquid is like 
shoving a crowbar in the dish and pulling it apart.  Super heated liquids 
expand rapidly and it is the super heated liquids that force the soda lime 
glass to shatter into tens of thousands of shards.

Since Corning no longer makes Pyrex and Sylvia proudly holds a large collection 
of the soda lime Pyrex, we decided that one bomb in the kitchen is enough.  The 
P Pyrex dishes will go bye-bye in this week's trash..  I do not know what we 
will use for cake and pie dishes going forward .  If you have some suggestions 
we are listening.

I strongly urge you not to use the soda lime Pyrex for the oven, stovetop or 
microwave.  The slightest invisible crack is all it takes to have a mess and a 
possible injury.

In case you are wondering: World Kitchenisnota USA company. 
I went to Snopes  checked this out.  Be careful when using 
Pyrex.  --   http://www.snopes.com/food/warnings/pyrex.asp
 
You can also click on the above Snopes address 

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Re: CSsilver gel

2009-11-06 Thread Annie B Smythe
You have to use an emulsifier and a stabilizer, if you want to use waxes 
and/or oils, just like when you make creams.


Most silver gels I've come across just use carbomer 940. There's a place 
that sells it to folks. 
http://www.snowdriftfarm.com/form_carbomer_pre-gel.html It makes a 
crystal clear gel.


Annie

Bethany Methven wrote:


Could anyone give me some ideas with making a colloidal silver gel?  I 
have been trying to use beeswax beads, coconut oil, small amount of vit. 
E oil and colloidal silver gel.  I am having a hard time getting the 
oils and waxes to blend with the silver water.  It keeps separating, 
even when I bring it to a very high temperature in a double broiler.  Is 
there some sort of natural agent that would break down the oils so that 
they can mix with the water.  When the gel sets up at the end,  I have 
a hard top of waxy stuff and then silver water liquid at the bottom.   I 
would love any ideas.
 
Thanks  -  Beth


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Re: CSX PPM to start process

2009-11-06 Thread Garnet

Are you by any chance using the charcoal post filter that comes
with some of the one gallon distillers? If that it couls be the
reason.

Garnet

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Clayton Family wrote:

You could run it through the distiller again, to see if it gets any better.

Wouldn't kill you but not ideal.

On Nov 6, 2009, at 9:19 AM, Max Schanfarber wrote:


I bought a water distiller and TDS meter.  After distilling the water
it reads 5 PPM.  Is this good enough to make CS?

Thanks,
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RE: CSwater distiller (UNCLASSIFIED)

2009-11-06 Thread Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC
Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE


I use hot water all the time, my hot water is Gas Fired which 
Is cheaper to heat then Electric.

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Re: CSLyposomal C

2009-11-06 Thread cking001
Don't use oil, use granules.
If need be, order from the internet.
http://www.puritan.com/lecithin-064/lecithin-granules-001060

Chuck
Why is there a light in the fridge and not in the freezer?

On 11/6/2009 6:13:08 AM, muk...@mail.bg wrote:
 Hi group,
 
 I did not found granulated lecithin where I live, only capsules. Is
 there some other kind of oily stuff that can replace lecithin ? If
 someone had any succes with a different oil please share it with us.
 
 Simeon
 


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Re: CSX PPM to start process

2009-11-06 Thread cking001
It's pretty near OK.
My personal limit is 4 or less...
Try double distilling and see what you get.

Chuck
If Wile E. Coyote had enough money to buy all that Acme stuff, why
didn't he just buy dinner?


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 I bought a water distiller and TDS meter.  After distilling the water
 it reads 5 PPM.  Is this good enough to make CS?
 
 Thanks,
 Maxi
 
 
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Re: CSsilver gel

2009-11-06 Thread cking001
Lecithin is an emulsifier...

Chuck
When in doubt empty the magazine.


On 11/6/2009 1:10:29 PM, Bethany Methven (mrs_ak_h...@yahoo.com)
wrote:
 Could anyone give me some ideas with making a colloidal silver gel? I have
 been trying to use beeswax beads, coconut oil, small amount of vit. E oil
 and colloidal silver gel. I am having a hard time getting the oils and
 waxes to blend with the silver water. It keeps separating, even when I
 bring it to a very high temperature in a double broiler. Is there some
 sort of natural agent that would break down the oils so that they can mix
 with the water. When the gel sets up at the end, I have a hard top of
 waxy stuff and then silver water liquid at the bottom.  I would love any
 ideas.
 
 Thanks - Beth
 
 
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 thousands of years! (907) 357-8954 or methvencolloidalsil...@yahoo.com


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CSStrange question

2009-11-06 Thread Deborah Gerard
This is bizarre problem...I have a problem with florescent lights in our 
breakroom at work...they don't bother me before work it is when I am almost 
done at night and I sit there for about twenty minutes and I get spasms in my 
neck that are unreal...anyone have any info on such a problem...I do try to 
stay out of the room as much as possible and am not there for eight hours 
during my shift,
thanks much,
debbie


  

Re: CSsilver gel

2009-11-06 Thread Jane MacRoss
Beth I haven't checked to see if there are other answers to this - how about a 
non oil based gelling agent? You'd have to keep it in the fridge, but starch 
based like they thicken foodstuffs with? You don't have to heat anything too 
much but its pretty instant, or agar gar, something like that?

Jane
  - 
  From: Bethany Methven 


Could anyone give me some ideas with making a colloidal silver gel?  
Thanks  -  Beth




   







Re: CSStrange question

2009-11-06 Thread Garnet

Muscle spasms can be a symptoms of Magnesium deficiency.

Try taking Magnesium, an easy way is to use Milk of 
Magnesia, small
amounts will be absorbed if you are deficient and not cause 
the laxative
effect. Spread it out over the day or use at the end of the 
day. MOM is

rapidly absorbed.

There are many food sources of Mg like almonds, cashews, 
peanuts,

dark leafy greens, dark chocolate.

There are topical Mg Oils, that are not really oils, but 
concentrated
sea water. They are costly but they can be applied topically 
to the

area.

Best way to get Mg is in your food. At the end of the day 
your muscles

may be fatigued and more prone to spasm.

Full spectrum bulbs would be nice, and although costly they 
last many
times longer than ordinary fluorescents and would increase 
worker

productivity. Maybe they would go for it? 6,000 kelvin is the
rating to look for. Not just Grow Lights for plants.

Garnet



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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA


Deborah Gerard wrote:
This is bizarre problem...I have a problem with florescent lights in our 
breakroom at work...they don't bother me before work it is when I am 
almost done at night and I sit there for about twenty minutes and I get 
spasms in my neck that are unreal...anyone have any info on such a 
problem...I do try to stay out of the room as much as possible and am 
not there for eight hours during my shift,

thanks much,
debbie




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Re: CSStrange question

2009-11-06 Thread MaryAnn Helland
Also Potassium deficiency?  If leg muscle cramps wake me at night, a couple 
days of Potassium supplementation makes them go away.  FWIW.
 MA





From: Garnet gar...@grandecom.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 7:01:41 PM
Subject: Re: CSStrange question

Muscle spasms can be a symptoms of Magnesium deficiency.

Try taking Magnesium, an easy way is to use Milk of Magnesia, small
amounts will be absorbed if you are deficient and not cause the laxative
effect. Spread it out over the day or use at the end of the day. MOM is
rapidly absorbed.

There are many food sources of Mg like almonds, cashews, peanuts,
dark leafy greens, dark chocolate.

There are topical Mg Oils, that are not really oils, but concentrated
sea water. They are costly but they can be applied topically to the
area.

Best way to get Mg is in your food. At the end of the day your muscles
may be fatigued and more prone to spasm.

Full spectrum bulbs would be nice, and although costly they last many
times longer than ordinary fluorescents and would increase worker
productivity. Maybe they would go for it? 6,000 kelvin is the
rating to look for. Not just Grow Lights for plants.

Garnet



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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information

Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA


Deborah Gerard wrote:
 This is bizarre problem...I have a problem with florescent lights in our 
 breakroom at work...they don't bother me before work it is when I am almost 
 done at night and I sit there for about twenty minutes and I get spasms in my 
 neck that are unreal...anyone have any info on such a problem...I do try to 
 stay out of the room as much as possible and am not there for eight hours 
 during my shift,
 thanks much,
 debbie
 


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Re: CSsilver gel

2009-11-06 Thread Scotty
Do you want it to be natural or not? Gel or lotion? If not, use the Carbomer 
940. If so, use 1 fluid oz CS, 16tbsp oil (almond preferably), citric acid 
(1tsp) or Citricidal (25 drops), 2tbsp filtered beeswax, 5 drops essential oil 
for fragrance (if desired).  Melt beeswax at low temp, add oil, let heat for a 
few minutes, add CS, stir until all is melted and emulsification will start, 
turn heat down to simmer and continue to stir for 10 mins. No more, no less. 
Remember to stir or else you may get an oil pop. Take off heat, put in a 
glass or ceramic mixing bowl, add remaining ingredients and use a hand mixer to 
whip it. And whip it good...lol! Pour the mixture into a container while 
still warm and 'voila' you have a great lotion! If you want it be more of a 
salve add another tbsp of beeswax up front. Hope this helps. I've been making 
this for the past year and it works great. It's a bit oily at first but the 
skin loves it! Have fun and let
 me know if you have any other questions.
 
Scott 
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From: Bethany Methven mrs_ak_h...@yahoo.com
Subject: CSsilver gel
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Friday, November 6, 2009, 10:10 AM







Could anyone give me some ideas with making a colloidal silver gel?  I have 
been trying to use beeswax beads, coconut oil, small amount of vit. E oil and 
colloidal silver gel.  I am having a hard time getting the oils and waxes to 
blend with the silver water.  It keeps separating, even when I bring it to a 
very high temperature in a double broiler.  Is there some sort of natural agent 
that would break down the oils so that they can mix with the water.  When the 
gel sets up at the end,  I have a hard top of waxy stuff and then silver 
water liquid at the bottom.   I would love any ideas. 
 
Thanks  -  Beth


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Re: CSStrange question

2009-11-06 Thread Jane MacRoss
A big glass of water stops mine immediately at night, but a large glass of 
water before you sleep tends to stop it ever happening.

Jane

  From: MaryAnn Helland 


  Also Potassium deficiency?  If leg muscle cramps wake me at night, a couple 
days of Potassium supplementation makes them go away.  FWIW.
   MA

  ,




Re: CSStrange question

2009-11-06 Thread Deborah Gerard
Thanks for your reply..I take 6-800mg's of Magnesium with calcium when I go to 
bed at night and in the morning I spray my inner arms with Mg oil before I go 
to work...wonder what gives...debbie





From: Garnet gar...@grandecom.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 5:01:41 PM
Subject: Re: CSStrange question

Muscle spasms can be a symptoms of Magnesium deficiency.

Try taking Magnesium, an easy way is to use Milk of Magnesia, small
amounts will be absorbed if you are deficient and not cause the laxative
effect. Spread it out over the day or use at the end of the day. MOM is
rapidly absorbed.

There are many food sources of Mg like almonds, cashews, peanuts,
dark leafy greens, dark chocolate.

There are topical Mg Oils, that are not really oils, but concentrated
sea water. They are costly but they can be applied topically to the
area.

Best way to get Mg is in your food. At the end of the day your muscles
may be fatigued and more prone to spasm.

Full spectrum bulbs would be nice, and although costly they last many
times longer than ordinary fluorescents and would increase worker
productivity. Maybe they would go for it? 6,000 kelvin is the
rating to look for. Not just Grow Lights for plants.

Garnet



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Deborah Gerard wrote:
 This is bizarre problem...I have a problem with florescent lights in our 
 breakroom at work...they don't bother me before work it is when I am almost 
 done at night and I sit there for about twenty minutes and I get spasms in my 
 neck that are unreal...anyone have any info on such a problem...I do try to 
 stay out of the room as much as possible and am not there for eight hours 
 during my shift,
 thanks much,
 debbie
 


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Re: CSsilver gel

2009-11-06 Thread Silver Smith
Scotty,

1 fluid oz of CS to 16 Tbsp (8 oz) of oil does not seem like a enough CS?
That is a 1:9 dilution?

A 1:9 dilution of  20ppm CS gives you an approximate 2.2 ppm concentration
of CS.  Is that enough to do any good?

Thoughts,

Thanks,

SS

On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Scotty scottie592...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Do you want it to be natural or not? Gel or lotion? If not, use the
 Carbomer 940. If so, use 1 fluid oz CS, 16tbsp oil (almond preferably),
 citric acid (1tsp) or Citricidal (25 drops), 2tbsp filtered beeswax, 5 drops
 essential oil for fragrance (if desired).  Melt beeswax at low temp,
 add oil, let heat for a few minutes, add CS, stir until all is melted and
 emulsification will start, turn heat down to simmer and continue to stir for
 10 mins. No more, no less. *Remember to stir or else you may get an oil
 pop*. Take off heat, put in a glass or ceramic mixing bowl,
 add remaining ingredients and use a hand mixer to whip it. And whip it
 good...lol! Pour the mixture into a container while still warm and 'voila'
 you have a great lotion! If you want it be more of a salve add another
 tbsp of beeswax up front. Hope this helps. I've been making this for the
 past year and it works great. It's a bit oily at first but the skin loves
 it! Have fun and let me know if you have any other questions.
  *
 Scott *
 With God, all things are possible. - Mark 10:27
 *
 *




 --- On *Fri, 11/6/09, Bethany Methven mrs_ak_h...@yahoo.com* wrote:


 From: Bethany Methven mrs_ak_h...@yahoo.com
 Subject: CSsilver gel

 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Friday, November 6, 2009, 10:10 AM


Could anyone give me some ideas with making a colloidal silver gel?  I
 have been trying to use beeswax beads, coconut oil, small amount of vit. E
 oil and colloidal silver gel.  I am having a hard time getting the oils and
 waxes to blend with the silver water.  It keeps separating, even when I
 bring it to a very high temperature in a double broiler.  Is there some sort
 of natural agent that would break down the oils so that they can mix with
 the water.  When the gel sets up at the end,  I have a hard top of waxy
 stuff and then silver water liquid at the bottom.   I would love any ideas.

 Thanks  -  Beth

 *Methven Colloidal Silver - Try a natural antibiotic that has been used
 for thousands of years!  (907) 357-8954 or
 methvencolloidalsil...@yahoo.com*









Re: CSStrange question

2009-11-06 Thread MaryAnn Helland
LOL -- a large glass of water before I sleep will have me up for other reasons, 
Jane!  :-D
MA





From: Jane MacRoss highfie...@internode.on.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 7:40:47 PM
Subject: Re: CSStrange question


A big glass of water stops mine immediately at night, but a large glass of 
water before you sleep tends to stop it ever happening.
 
Jane
 
From: MaryAnn Helland 


Also Potassium deficiency?  If leg muscle cramps wake me at night, a couple 
days of Potassium supplementation makes them go away.  FWIW.
 MA

,




Re: CSStrange question

2009-11-06 Thread Deborah Gerard
You and me both :)





From: MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 7:35:39 PM
Subject: Re: CSStrange question


LOL -- a large glass of water before I sleep will have me up for other reasons, 
Jane!  :-D
MA





From: Jane MacRoss highfie...@internode.on.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 7:40:47 PM
Subject: Re: CSStrange question


A big glass of water stops mine immediately at night, but a large glass of 
water before you sleep tends to stop it ever happening.
 
Jane
 
From: MaryAnn Helland 


Also Potassium deficiency?  If leg muscle cramps wake me at night, a couple 
days of Potassium supplementation makes them go away.  FWIW.
 MA

,





  

Re: CSsilver gel

2009-11-06 Thread Annie B Smythe

I've bought the silver gel from here:

http://thebreathoflife.net/herbalstore/catalog/silverwater.php

before, the most reasonable that I could find anywhere. It's only 3 ppm 
gel and it does a bang up job. I still have a tiny bit in the 8 oz 
bottle. That's the biggest size I could find also for the money paid. 
I've used it for everything. Works great for bug bites, scratches, and 
just about everything else under the sun. Including diaper rash. And 
it's just the right size to stick in my purse to take with me when I go 
to the grocery store and such to use as a hand sanitizer. I also smear a 
bit in my nose and around my mouth before I expose myself to the hacking 
coughing masses.


It stays put when you apply it, and spreads nicely on a band aid or 
other bandage. It has a nice thickness to it. And it's colorless, 
odorless. Does not leave a sticky residue, And even though that's a 
decent price compared to the other stuff I've found, and it works very 
well. I can still make my own cheaper. Oh and it was made with carbomer, 
says so on the label.


If you make your own CS then the dilution would depend on the ppm CS 
that you started out with. If you make your CS a little stronger the ppm 
will be higher in your finished product.


And I have nothing to do with those folks except that I bought some of 
their silver gel. I'm just saying that 3ppm, as low as that is, still 
works quite well. It surprised me just how well it worked!



Annie




Silver Smith wrote:

Scotty,

1 fluid oz of CS to 16 Tbsp (8 oz) of oil does not seem like a enough 
CS?  That is a 1:9 dilution?


A 1:9 dilution of  20ppm CS gives you an approximate 2.2 ppm 
concentration of CS.  Is that enough to do any good?


Thoughts,

Thanks,

SS

On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Scotty scottie592...@yahoo.com 
mailto:scottie592...@yahoo.com wrote:


Do you want it to be natural or not? Gel or lotion? If not, use the
Carbomer 940. If so, use 1 fluid oz CS, 16tbsp oil (almond
preferably), citric acid (1tsp) or Citricidal (25 drops), 2tbsp
filtered beeswax, 5 drops essential oil for fragrance (if desired). 
Melt beeswax at low temp, add oil, let heat for a few minutes, add

CS, stir until all is melted and emulsification will start,
turn heat down to simmer and continue to stir for 10 mins. No more,
no less. *Remember to stir or else you may get an oil pop*. Take
off heat, put in a glass or ceramic mixing bowl, add remaining
ingredients and use a hand mixer to whip it. And whip it
good...lol! Pour the mixture into a container while still warm and
'voila' you have a great lotion! If you want it be more of a salve
add another tbsp of beeswax up front. Hope this helps. I've been
making this for the past year and it works great. It's a bit oily at
first but the skin loves it! Have fun and let me know if you have
any other questions.
 *
Scott  *
With God, all things are possible. - Mark 10:27
*
*

 



--- On *Fri, 11/6/09, Bethany Methven /mrs_ak_h...@yahoo.com
mailto:mrs_ak_h...@yahoo.com/* wrote:


From: Bethany Methven mrs_ak_h...@yahoo.com
mailto:mrs_ak_h...@yahoo.com
Subject: CSsilver gel

To: silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Friday, November 6, 2009, 10:10 AM


Could anyone give me some ideas with making a colloidal silver
gel?  I have been trying to use beeswax beads, coconut oil,
small amount of vit. E oil and colloidal silver gel.  I am
having a hard time getting the oils and waxes to blend with the
silver water.  It keeps separating, even when I bring it to a
very high temperature in a double broiler.  Is there some sort
of natural agent that would break down the oils so that they can
mix with the water.  When the gel sets up at the end,  I have
a hard top of waxy stuff and then silver water liquid at the
bottom.   I would love any ideas.
 
Thanks  -  Beth


*Methven Colloidal Silver - Try a natural antibiotic that has
been used for thousands of years!  (907) 357-8954 or
methvencolloidalsil...@yahoo.com
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Re: CSStrange question

2009-11-06 Thread Annie B Smythe
Some people are sensitive to fluorescent lights. For instance epileptic 
people can't tolerate fluorescents well. They can trigger epileptic 
seizures. Maybe you're just extra sensitive to them when you're fatigued 
at the end of the day.


A Qlink might help. I've heard some promising things about them. I've 
been saving to buy one. You can find them more reasonably priced on eBay 
 than the website.




Annie



Deborah Gerard wrote:


This is bizarre problem...I have a problem with florescent lights in our 
breakroom at work...they don't bother me before work it is when I am 
almost done at night and I sit there for about twenty minutes and I get 
spasms in my neck that are unreal...anyone have any info on such a 
problem...I do try to stay out of the room as much as possible and am 
not there for eight hours during my shift,

thanks much,
debbie




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Re: CSsilver gel

2009-11-06 Thread Gayla Roberts
Slippery elm powder will thicken it too.
Gayla
Bob and Gayla Roberts
Always Enough Ranch
Acampo, CA
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jane MacRoss 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 4:44 PM
  Subject: Re: CSsilver gel


  Beth I haven't checked to see if there are other answers to this - how about 
a non oil based gelling agent? You'd have to keep it in the fridge, but starch 
based like they thicken foodstuffs with? You don't have to heat anything too 
much but its pretty instant, or agar gar, something like that?

  Jane
- 
From: Bethany Methven 


  Could anyone give me some ideas with making a colloidal silver gel?  
  Thanks  -  Beth