Re: CS>Important question about reducing atherosclerosis

[Hanneke]

Brickey, is that 2 teaspoons or tablespoons?
At 04:15 PM 2/01/2010, you wrote:

My father fixed a 90% blockage by
taking 2T Soy Lecithin with each meal. His Dr wanted to operate but his
religion would not allow an operation. Two years later his Dr said the
arteries were working normal. A Davis suggested using the lecithin.
Brickey



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Re: CS>Important question about reducing atherosclerosis

[brickeyk]

My father fixed a 90% blockage by taking 2T Soy Lecithin with each meal.  
His Dr wanted to operate but his religion would not allow an operation. Two  
years later his Dr said the arteries were working normal. A Davis suggested  
using the lecithin.
Brickey

Re: CS>.we don't KNOW what would have happened had we NOT taken CS.

[sol]

At 03:35 PM 1/1/2010, you wrote:
Hpefully you're not using Arm and Hammer Sodium Bicarbonate.  It has 
too much aluminum in it.  There are sources of pure sodium 
bicarbonate.  I tried communicating with Simoncini a couple years 
ago, but he ignored my e-mails.  Too bad, he could've learned 
something from this layman...


John


I researched that claim and have been unable to substantiate it. If 
you have any actual proof, I'd sure like to have a reference to it. 
In any case Church and Dwight say there is no aluminum in Arm and 
Hammer sodium bicarbonate, and I would not hesitate to use it.
sol 




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CS>Where to find pure sodium bicarbonate

[patriot2000]

Lisa wrote:
John can you provide names, websites and/or
links to a pure sodium bicarbonate. 
 I’d like to get something tried and true
J
Thanks, 
Lisa
Here is the information you seek:

http://www.iherb.com/Bob-s-Red-Mill-Baking-Aids

http://www.vitacost.com/BobsRedMill?csrc=PPCADWLT-bob-s_red_mill&mtp=sJ579hK7R|pcrid|3827282501

Both sites have Bob's Red Mill aluminum free baking soda for under $2.50
a pound.  It is also available in most health food stores.
Marlys



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Re: Re: CS>.we don't KNOW what would have happened had we NOT taken CS.

[leslie]

I could not click on fungal_disease.pdf  Would like to see this.
Leslie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Acmeair 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 6:36 PM
  Subject: Re: Re: CS>.we don't KNOW what would have happened had we NOT taken 
CS.


  "Thank you for taking the time to contact Church & Dwight Co., Inc. regarding 
ARM & HAMMER Baking Soda.

  Your comments are important to us and provide valuable information that helps 
us maintain the high level of quality you have come to expect from our products 
and services.

  Our baking soda is 100% sodium bicarbonate and does not contain aluminum."

  you are getting mixed up with "baking powder", me thinks  
 jim



  Jan 1, 2010 02:36:08 PM, silver-list@eskimo.com wrote:

Hpefully you're not using Arm and Hammer Sodium Bicarbonate.  It has too 
much aluminum in it.  There are sources of pure sodium bicarbonate.  I tried 
communicating with Simoncini a couple years ago, but he ignored my e-mails.  
Too bad, he could've learned something from this layman...

John


On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 5:13 PM, Dick Rochon  wrote:

  The Italian oncologist, Dr. Simoncini, (watch on Youtube) was curing lung 
cancer by using baking soda. He claims that cancer is a fungus, and his videos 
show the cancer turning back pink again and going away. He was curing stage 4 
cancers until they took his licence away. A serious danger to the cancer 
industry.

  If he is correct that cancer is a fungus, and soda will kill it, then it 
should also kill black mold, which certainly is a fungus also. If I had it I 
would dilute baking soda in water and use a nebulizer to breath it.

  By the way, I used a solution of dissolved baking soda and DMSO, 50/50, 
about twice a day for a month, on a brown mole that was turning black and 
bleeding, and it totally disappeared. Never had it looked at or diagnosed, so 
cannot claim it was cancer. 

  Dick
- Original Message - 
From: kmartjo...@aol.com 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 11:06 AM
Subject: Fwd: CS>.we don't KNOW what would have happened had we NOT 
taken CS.


IAspergillosis is an incurable disease of the lungs caused by fungal 
Aspergillus. It is treated using
compounds called azoles but researchers at The University of Manchester 
have found that the fungus has
been able to mutate making treatment ineffective.
The research, published in the prestigious US journal Emerging 
Infectious Diseases, showed that 13 out of
14 affected patients recently treated by the team did not respond to 
therapy and that numerous mutations
were responsible.


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  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: 1/1/2010 12:43:29 P.M. Central Standard Time
  Subj: Re: CS>.we don't KNOW what would have happened had we NOT 
taken CS.


  fungal_disease.pdf 


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Re: CS>...these videos are about Autism,Robert F Kennedy Jr Shocking Vaccine

[Bob Banever]

KMART,

  I'd look into taking liquid zeolite and chlorella for mercury detox and 
autism.  I had mercury poisoning a couple of years ago.  A Dr. prescribed the 
zeolite and I felt better in a month.  I took (as an adult) 10 drops in water 
three times daily.  Ate about a tablespoon of chlorella daily as well.  Good 
luck.

  Bob
  - Original Message - 
  From: kmartjo...@aol.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 5:20 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>...these videos are about Autism,Robert F Kennedy Jr Shocking 
Vaccine 


  You didn't watch both video's ...I think Kennedy comments were home school 
kids w/o vaccines had no autismAmish had 4 cases...3 of cases were adopted 
after vaccines shots were given...the 4th was down wind of mercury plant...or 
something 
  Robert F Kennedy Jr Shocking Vaccine Cover Up Part2  
www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjPox5xBOLI&NR=1  . my question remains can CS help 
autism kids, what can be done to help..

  In a message dated 1/1/2010 7:06:15 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
bloss...@internode.on.net writes:
At 11:23 PM 22/12/2009, you wrote:
>It was Sweden, I think, that eliminated Mercury in ALL vaccines 30 
>years ago, but Autism rates kept climbing there, just as fast as 
>everywhere else that didn't.


It thought that was interesting so I did some looking up.  My 
findings are that they did not eliminate Mercury until 93/94, then 
starting to phase out the use of Thimerosal in the vaccines for 
children.  On the rise of autism in Sweden, that too  seems to be not 
quite accurate as you state. They have not been rising as fast as 
everywhere .
If you have a source to back up your statements, I would be 
interested in reading that.

Hanneke



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Re: CS>...these videos are about Autism,Robert F Kennedy Jr Shocking Vaccine

[KMARTJOPPA]

You didn't watch both video's ...I  think Kennedy comments were home school 
kids w/o vaccines had no  autismAmish had 4 cases...3 of cases were 
adopted after vaccines shots were  given...the 4th was down wind of mercury 
plant...or something  
Robert F Kennedy Jr Shocking Vaccine Cover Up Part2  
_www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjPox5xBOLI&NR=1_ 
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjPox5xBOLI&NR=1)   
.  my question remains can CS help autism kids, what can be done to  help..

 
 
In a message dated 1/1/2010 7:06:15 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
bloss...@internode.on.net writes:

At 11:23  PM 22/12/2009, you wrote:
>It was Sweden, I think, that eliminated  Mercury in ALL vaccines 30 
>years ago, but Autism rates kept climbing  there, just as fast as 
>everywhere else that didn't.


It  thought that was interesting so I did some looking up.  My 
findings  are that they did not eliminate Mercury until 93/94, then 
starting to  phase out the use of Thimerosal in the vaccines for 
children.  On the  rise of autism in Sweden, that too  seems to be not 
quite accurate as  you state. They have not been rising as fast as 
everywhere .
If you have a  source to back up your statements, I would be 
interested in reading  that.

Hanneke



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Re: CS>...these videos are about Autism

[Hanneke]

At 11:23 PM 22/12/2009, you wrote:
It was Sweden, I think, that eliminated Mercury in ALL vaccines 30 
years ago, but Autism rates kept climbing there, just as fast as 
everywhere else that didn't.



It thought that was interesting so I did some looking up.  My 
findings are that they did not eliminate Mercury until 93/94, then 
starting to phase out the use of Thimerosal in the vaccines for 
children.  On the rise of autism in Sweden, that too  seems to be not 
quite accurate as you state. They have not been rising as fast as everywhere .
If you have a source to back up your statements, I would be 
interested in reading that.


Hanneke



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Re: Re: CS>.we don't KNOW what would have happened had we NOT taken CS.

[Acmeair]

"Thank you for taking the time to contact Church & Dwight Co., Inc. regarding ARM & HAMMER Baking Soda.Your comments are important to us and provide valuable information that helps us maintain the high level of quality you have come to expect from our products and services.Our baking soda is 100% sodium bicarbonate and does not contain aluminum."
 
you are getting mixed up with "baking powder", me thinks   jimJan 1, 2010 02:36:08 PM, silver-list@eskimo.com wrote:
Hpefully you're not using Arm and Hammer Sodium Bicarbonate.  It has too much aluminum in it.  There are sources of pure sodium bicarbonate.  I tried communicating with Simoncini a couple years ago, but he ignored my e-mails.  Too bad, he could've learned something from this layman...John
On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 5:13 PM, Dick Rochon  wrote:


The Italian oncologist, Dr. Simoncini, (watch on Youtube) was curing lung cancer by using baking soda. He claims that cancer is a fungus, and his videos show the cancer turning back pink again and going away. He was curing stage 4 cancers until they took his licence away. A serious danger to the cancer industry.
 
If he is correct that cancer is a fungus, and soda will kill it, then it should also kill black mold, which certainly is a fungus also. If I had it I would dilute baking soda in water and use a nebulizer to breath it.
 
By the way, I used a solution of dissolved baking soda and DMSO, 50/50, about twice a day for a month, on a brown mole that was turning black and bleeding, and it totally disappeared. Never had it looked at or diagnosed, so cannot claim it was cancer. 
 
Dick

- Original Message - 
From: kmartjo...@aol.com 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 11:06 AM
Subject: Fwd: CS>.we don't KNOW what would have happened had we NOT taken CS.

IAspergillosis is an incurable disease of the lungs caused by fungal Aspergillus. It is treated usingcompounds called azoles but researchers at The University of Manchester have found that the fungus hasbeen able to mutate making treatment ineffective.The research, published in the prestigious US journal Emerging Infectious Diseases, showed that 13 out of14 affected patients recently treated by the team did not respond to therapy and that numerous mutationswere responsible.
 




From: chube...@yahoo.comReply-to: silver-list@eskimo.comTo: silver-list@eskimo.comSent: 1/1/2010 12:43:29 P.M. Central Standard TimeSubj: Re: CS>.we don't KNOW what would have happened had we NOT taken CS.
 fungal_disease.pdf 


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Re: CS>.we don't KNOW what would have happened had we NOT taken CS.

[julie martin]

some years back... wasn't there a list member who had jumped into a pond and 
developed a fungus infection perhaps in his sinuses that was overcome with cs 
as well as other alternative methods?  
julie m


  


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RE: CS>.we don't KNOW what would have happened had we NOT taken CS.

[Lisa]

John can you provide names, websites and/or links to a pure sodium
bicarbonate. 

 

I'd like to get something tried and true :-)



Thanks,

 

Lisa

 

  _  

From: John E. Stevens [mailto:jonellis.steven...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 5:35 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>.we don't KNOW what would have happened had we NOT taken CS.

 

Hpefully you're not using Arm and Hammer Sodium Bicarbonate.  It has too
much aluminum in it.  There are sources of pure sodium bicarbonate.  I tried
communicating with Simoncini a couple years ago, but he ignored my e-mails.
Too bad, he could've learned something from this layman...

John

On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 5:13 PM, Dick Rochon  wrote:

The Italian oncologist, Dr. Simoncini, (watch on Youtube) was curing lung
cancer by using baking soda. He claims that cancer is a fungus, and his
videos show the cancer turning back pink again and going away. He was curing
stage 4 cancers until they took his licence away. A serious danger to the
cancer industry.

 

If he is correct that cancer is a fungus, and soda will kill it, then it
should also kill black mold, which certainly is a fungus also. If I had it I
would dilute baking soda in water and use a nebulizer to breath it.

 

By the way, I used a solution of dissolved baking soda and DMSO, 50/50,
about twice a day for a month, on a brown mole that was turning black and
bleeding, and it totally disappeared. Never had it looked at or diagnosed,
so cannot claim it was cancer. 

 

Dick

- Original Message - 

From: kmartjo...@aol.com 

To: silver-list@eskimo.com 

Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 11:06 AM

Subject: Fwd: CS>.we don't KNOW what would have happened had we NOT taken
CS.

 

IAspergillosis is an incurable disease of the lungs caused by fungal
Aspergillus. It is treated using
compounds called azoles but researchers at The University of Manchester have
found that the fungus has
been able to mutate making treatment ineffective.
The research, published in the prestigious US journal Emerging Infectious
Diseases, showed that 13 out of
14 affected patients recently treated by the team did not respond to therapy
and that numerous mutations
were responsible.

 


  _  


From: chube...@yahoo.com
Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: 1/1/2010 12:43:29 P.M. Central Standard Time
Subj: Re: CS>.we don't KNOW what would have happened had we NOT taken
CS.

 

fungal_disease.pdf 

 

Re: CS>.we don't KNOW what would have happened had we NOT taken CS.

[Clayton Family]

There are other problems with black mold and other toxic molds besides killing 
it. They produce toxins, and the body has to get rid of them. I have wondered 
if Brook's lipsomal vitamin C would address this, since in theory it should 
help a great deal. Killing it is a good idea; however careful attention needs 
to be paid to removing the toxins at the same time. Some methods have been 
listed already- sauna, etc.

btw- aspergillosis is not incurable- it is certainly curable, just not by the 
doctor's usual methods. I am speculating that rotating the antifungal protocols 
to prevent tolerance from developing might be helpful. Not sure though, since 
using the CS worked for me. I don't have to use anything else.

Thanks for the info on the mole and the soda/dmso. That sounds like a good tip.

Kathryn


On Jan 1, 2010, at 4:13 PM, Dick Rochon wrote:

> The Italian oncologist, Dr. Simoncini, (watch on Youtube) was curing lung 
> cancer by using baking soda. He claims that cancer is a fungus, and his 
> videos show the cancer turning back pink again and going away. He was curing 
> stage 4 cancers until they took his licence away. A serious danger to the 
> cancer industry.
>  
> If he is correct that cancer is a fungus, and soda will kill it, then it 
> should also kill black mold, which certainly is a fungus also. If I had it I 
> would dilute baking soda in water and use a nebulizer to breath it.
>  
> By the way, I used a solution of dissolved baking soda and DMSO, 50/50, about 
> twice a day for a month, on a brown mole that was turning black and bleeding, 
> and it totally disappeared. Never had it looked at or diagnosed, so cannot 
> claim it was cancer.
>  
> Dick
> - Original Message -
> From: kmartjo...@aol.com
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 11:06 AM
> Subject: Fwd: CS>.we don't KNOW what would have happened had we NOT taken CS.
> 
> IAspergillosis is an incurable disease of the lungs caused by fungal 
> Aspergillus. It is treated using
> compounds called azoles but researchers at The University of Manchester have 
> found that the fungus has
> been able to mutate making treatment ineffective.
> The research, published in the prestigious US journal Emerging Infectious 
> Diseases, showed that 13 out of
> 14 affected patients recently treated by the team did not respond to therapy 
> and that numerous mutations
> were responsible.
>  
> From: chube...@yahoo.com
> Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Sent: 1/1/2010 12:43:29 P.M. Central Standard Time
> Subj: Re: CS>.we don't KNOW what would have happened had we NOT taken CS.
>  
> fungal_disease.pdf

Re: CS>.we don't KNOW what would have happened had we NOT taken CS.

[John E. Stevens]

Hpefully you're not using Arm and Hammer Sodium Bicarbonate.  It has too
much aluminum in it.  There are sources of pure sodium bicarbonate.  I tried
communicating with Simoncini a couple years ago, but he ignored my e-mails.
Too bad, he could've learned something from this layman...

John

On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 5:13 PM, Dick Rochon  wrote:

>  The Italian oncologist, Dr. Simoncini, (watch on Youtube) was curing lung
> cancer by using baking soda. He claims that cancer is a fungus, and his
> videos show the cancer turning back pink again and going away. He was curing
> stage 4 cancers until they took his licence away. A serious danger to the
> cancer industry.
>
> If he is correct that cancer is a fungus, and soda will kill it, then it
> should also kill black mold, which certainly is a fungus also. If I had it I
> would dilute baking soda in water and use a nebulizer to breath it.
>
> By the way, I used a solution of dissolved baking soda and DMSO, 50/50,
> about twice a day for a month, on a brown mole that was turning black and
> bleeding, and it totally disappeared. Never had it looked at or diagnosed,
> so cannot claim it was cancer.
>
> Dick
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* kmartjo...@aol.com
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Sent:* Friday, January 01, 2010 11:06 AM
> *Subject:* Fwd: CS>.we don't KNOW what would have happened had we NOT
> taken CS.
>
> IAspergillosis is an incurable disease of the lungs caused by fungal
> Aspergillus. It is treated using
> compounds called azoles but researchers at The University of Manchester
> have found that the fungus has
> been able to mutate making treatment ineffective.
> The research, published in the prestigious US journal Emerging Infectious
> Diseases, showed that 13 out of
> 14 affected patients recently treated by the team did not respond to
> therapy and that numerous mutations
> were responsible.
>
>
>  --
> From: chube...@yahoo.com
> Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Sent: 1/1/2010 12:43:29 P.M. Central Standard Time
> Subj: Re: CS>.we don't KNOW what would have happened had we NOT taken
> CS.
>
> *fungal_disease.pdf*
>
>

Re: CS>.we don't KNOW what would have happened had we NOT taken CS.

[Dick Rochon]

The Italian oncologist, Dr. Simoncini, (watch on Youtube) was curing lung 
cancer by using baking soda. He claims that cancer is a fungus, and his videos 
show the cancer turning back pink again and going away. He was curing stage 4 
cancers until they took his licence away. A serious danger to the cancer 
industry.

If he is correct that cancer is a fungus, and soda will kill it, then it should 
also kill black mold, which certainly is a fungus also. If I had it I would 
dilute baking soda in water and use a nebulizer to breath it.

By the way, I used a solution of dissolved baking soda and DMSO, 50/50, about 
twice a day for a month, on a brown mole that was turning black and bleeding, 
and it totally disappeared. Never had it looked at or diagnosed, so cannot 
claim it was cancer. 

Dick
  - Original Message - 
  From: kmartjo...@aol.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 11:06 AM
  Subject: Fwd: CS>.we don't KNOW what would have happened had we NOT taken CS.


  IAspergillosis is an incurable disease of the lungs caused by fungal 
Aspergillus. It is treated using
  compounds called azoles but researchers at The University of Manchester have 
found that the fungus has
  been able to mutate making treatment ineffective.
  The research, published in the prestigious US journal Emerging Infectious 
Diseases, showed that 13 out of
  14 affected patients recently treated by the team did not respond to therapy 
and that numerous mutations
  were responsible.



From: chube...@yahoo.com
Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: 1/1/2010 12:43:29 P.M. Central Standard Time
Subj: Re: CS>.we don't KNOW what would have happened had we NOT taken 
CS.


fungal_disease.pdf 

Re: CS>.we don't KNOW what would have happened had we NOT taken CS.

[Clayton Family]

Yep. There are probably lots of people that have been saved tons of suffering 
by taking cs when they had one or another fungal infection.

There has been research, but not always easy to find.


On Jan 1, 2010, at 12:21 PM, kmartjo...@aol.com wrote:

> I would be deadI was exposed unknowingly to 9 types of mold for years 
> from a/c in car...read  what usually happens withfungal_disease.pdf or 
> www.mayoclinic.com/health/aspergillosis/DS00950 I found additional  
> information after taking CS from EMSL lab show how CS kills aspergillus and 
> other pathogens
> I was so sick 10 months ago...I didn't care if I died...ionic cs, 
> manna tech, twice daily fir saunas, omega 3 oil,alpha lipoic acid, minerals, 
> zeolite, 10 other supplements ..watching "You Tube...The Cancer 
> Answer".running in place on $30.00 ...38" Walmart trampoline... clears 
> lymph glands...do  daily for   30 minutes at a time up to 130 beats per 
> minute or your age group then get in sauna.. 
> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=380881482962821998#   
> a must read for proper supplements..  .Dr.Sherry Rogers books ...Detox or 
> Die, Environmental Illnessother books Clear Body Clear Mind, 7 Pillars of 
> Health, excellent ...Dr.Barry Sears books...on Omega 3 fish oil...
> it was cs

Re: CS> Anyone dealing with mold issues using colloidal silver for health

[Clayton Family]

Yes, I did.  Some of them were easier than others.

On Dec 31, 2009, at 6:58 PM, kmartjo...@aol.com wrote:

> Anyone dealing with mold issues corrected by colloidal silver
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RE: Fwd: CS>.we don't KNOW what would have happened had we NOT taken CS.

[Jessie]

 I am jumping in without knowing much but isn't this aspergillosis used 
in making some type of supplements? I believe I have some enzymes or 
something over the years. Or is it close in spelling to something else? 
Jess


On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 11:06 AM, kmartjo...@aol.com wrote:

 IAspergillosis is an incurable disease of the lungs caused by fungal 
Aspergillus. It is treated using
compounds called azoles but researchers at  The University of Manchester 
have found that the fungus has

been able to  mutate making treatment ineffective.
The research, published in the  prestigious US journal Emerging 
Infectious Diseases, showed that 13 out of
14  affected patients recently treated by the team did not respond to 
therapy and  that numerous mutations

were responsible.

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From: chube...@yahoo.com
Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com
To:silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: 1/1/2010 12:43:29 P.M. Central StandardTime
Subj: Re: CS>.we don't KNOW what would have happened hadwe NOT 
taken CS.


fungal_disease.pdf

Fwd: CS>.we don't KNOW what would have happened had we NOT taken CS.

[KMARTJOPPA]

IAspergillosis is an incurable disease of the lungs caused by fungal  
Aspergillus. It is treated using
compounds called azoles but researchers at  The University of Manchester 
have found that the fungus has
been able to  mutate making treatment ineffective.
The research, published in the  prestigious US journal Emerging Infectious 
Diseases, showed that 13 out of
14  affected patients recently treated by the team did not respond to 
therapy and  that numerous mutations
were responsible.
 
 
  

 From: chube...@yahoo.com
Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com
To:  silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: 1/1/2010 12:43:29 P.M. Central Standard  Time
Subj: Re: CS>.we don't KNOW what would have happened had  we NOT taken 
CS.


fungal_disease.pdf  

Re: CS>.we don't KNOW what would have happened had we NOT taken CS.

[Steve G]

You really don't KNOW this to be true.  It is what you believe.  And you COULD 
be right. 

I find that many people aren't clear on the difference between facts and 
opinions.   The truth is, since you DID take CS, there is no way to know FOR 
SURE what would have happened had you not taken it.

Having said that.  I believe that your health has been  dramatically improved 
by the steps you have taken, whether there is a way to prove this saved your 
life or not is another issue.

Cheers.

Steve G.


--- On Fri, 1/1/10, kmartjo...@aol.com  wrote:

From: kmartjo...@aol.com 
Subject: CS>.we don't KNOW what would have happened had we NOT taken CS.
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Friday, January 1, 2010, 1:21 PM



 

I would be deadI 
was exposed unknowingly to 9 types of mold for years from a/c in 
car...read  what usually happens with    
fungal_disease.pdf or www.mayoclinic.com/health/aspergillosis/DS00950 
I found additional  information after taking CS from EMSL lab show 
how CS kills aspergillus and other pathogens
I was so sick 10 months ago...I didn't care if I 
died...ionic cs, manna tech, twice daily fir saunas, omega 3 oil,alpha 
lipoic acid, minerals, zeolite, 10 other supplements ..watching "You 
Tube...The Cancer Answer".running in place on $30.00 ...38" Walmart 
trampoline... clears lymph glands...do  daily for   30 minutes at 
a time up to 130 beats per minute or your age group then get in 
sauna.. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=380881482962821998#   
a must read for proper supplements..  
.Dr.Sherry Rogers books ...Detox or Die, Environmental 
Illnessother books Clear Body Clear Mind, 7 Pillars of Health, excellent 
...Dr.Barry Sears books...on Omega 3 fish oil...
it was cs that was most important...at a desperate 
time like I was suffocating I started putting ionic 5 ppm in CPAP machine and 
put directly in my lungs...3-4 days later I started feeling better
anyone has any suggestions on this type of mold 
illness, please share,    
12-15  some medical practicing doctors gave me 
2 MRI'S, 1 MRA, 4 CT Scans, many X rays, stress tests, 3 pulmonary function 
tests, 14  allergy shots...I was allergic to. they had no 
clue
one doctor I told I was taking CS , told me not to take colloidal 
silver ..After taking a month later..I told him how 
I was taking CS I quote this Doctor  said " 
that amazing,  I am surprised I didn't think of 
that"
no wonder most people who get this or  black 
mold disease dies...I read everything I can on my illness...Reading books 
and searching the internet, asking question of  Kaufman's "Know The Cause" 
blog has changed my life...I still have some issues, but I show promise for 
improved health...
 

In a message dated 1/1/2010 10:36:14 A.M. Central Standard Time, 
chube...@yahoo.com writes:

  


  I agree with Ode's general line here that we don't KNOW what would have 
happened had we NOT 
taken CS.

On the other hand. when a 
large group of people, such as the people on this list, consistently 
take CS and have nothing else fully in common in their lives and none 
of 
them get sick for years.. this is pretty compelling evidence that 
goes beyond the typical assumptions made from anecdotal one-time 
non-reproduceable results.

It's not proof, but 
DAMN!

--- On Fri, 1/1/10, Ode Coyote 
 wrote:


From: 
  Ode Coyote 
Subject: Re: 
  CS>..How many watched the video and passed on..these videos are 
  about Autism
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Friday, January 1, 
  2010, 9:27 AM


  
> No..actually it was a conclusion jumped 
  to without considering threshold level factors and the broader 
picture 
  of sources.

The vaccine may have crossed an existing threshold 
  for you, but by your own testimony, wasn't the major source of 
  mercury.
The chelation and amalgam removal may have brought you 
  just below MS effect threshold.
You see... 10 Tuna fish sandwiches 
  may have done the same thing as the vaccine.
But you did get the 
  vaccine and didn't eat the sandwiches...so how do you know?

You 
  don't know.

I've been using CS for ten years and haven't gotten 
  sick, therefore "CS prevents illness".
However, HAVING used the CS, 
  you DON'T know what would have happened had you not...and you just 
  can't do both at once to find out.

So, at best, we can draw a 
  general conclusion about ideas.
It's a good idea to use CSeven 
  if it doesn't work, it does no harm and it just might work, but 
  there's no way to know on a personal basis and illness is nothing BUT 
  personal.
It's a good idea to avoid ALL sources of mercury as best 
  you 
  can.

Ode






  

CS>.we don't KNOW what would have happened had we NOT taken CS.

[KMARTJOPPA]

I would be deadI  was exposed unknowingly to 9 types of mold for years 
from a/c in  car...read  what usually happens with fungal_disease.pdf or 
www.mayoclinic.com/health/aspergillosis/DS00950  I found additional  
information after taking CS from EMSL lab show  how CS kills aspergillus and 
other pathogens
I was so sick 10 months ago...I didn't care if I  died...ionic cs, 
manna tech, twice daily fir saunas, omega 3 oil,alpha  lipoic acid, 
minerals, zeolite, 10 other supplements ..watching "You  Tube...The Cancer 
Answer".running in place on $30.00 ...38" Walmart  trampoline... clears 
lymph 
glands...do  daily for   30 minutes at  a time up to 130 beats per minute or 
your age group then get in  sauna.. 
_http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=380881482962821998#_ 
(http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=380881482962821998)
a must read for proper supplements..   .Dr.Sherry Rogers books ...Detox 
or Die, Environmental  Illnessother books Clear Body Clear Mind, 7 
Pillars of Health, excellent  ...Dr.Barry Sears books...on Omega 3 fish oil...
it was cs that was most important...at a desperate  time like I was 
suffocating I started putting ionic 5 ppm in CPAP machine and  put directly in 
my lungs...3-4 days later I started feeling better
anyone has any suggestions on this type of mold  illness, please share, 
   
12-15  some medical practicing doctors gave me  2 MRI'S, 1 MRA, 4 CT 
Scans, many X rays, stress tests, 3 pulmonary function  tests, 14  allergy 
shots...I was allergic to. they had no  clue
one doctor I told I was taking CS , told me not to take colloidal  
silver ..After taking a month later..I told him how  I was taking 
CS 
I quote this Doctor  said "  that amazing,  I am surprised I didn't think 
of  that"
no wonder most people who get this or  black  mold disease dies...I 
read everything I can on my illness...Reading books  and searching the 
internet, asking question of  Kaufman's "Know The Cause"  blog has changed my 
life...I still have some issues, but I show promise for  improved health...
 
 
In a message dated 1/1/2010 10:36:14 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
chube...@yahoo.com writes:

I agree with Ode's general line here that we don't KNOW what would have 
happened had we NOT  taken CS.

On the other hand. when a  large group of people, such as the people on 
this list, consistently  take CS and have nothing else fully in common in 
their lives and none of  them get sick for years.. this is pretty 
compelling evidence that  goes beyond the typical assumptions made from 
anecdotal 
one-time  non-reproduceable results.

It's not proof, but  DAMN!

--- On Fri, 1/1/10, Ode Coyote   wrote:


From:  Ode Coyote 
Subject: Re:  CS>..How many watched the video and passed on..these videos 
are  about Autism
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Friday, January 1,  2010, 9:27 AM


> No..actually it was a conclusion jumped  to without considering threshold 
level factors and the broader picture  of sources.

The vaccine may have crossed an existing threshold  for you, but by your 
own testimony, wasn't the major source of  mercury.
The chelation and amalgam removal may have brought you  just below MS 
effect threshold.
You see... 10 Tuna fish sandwiches  may have done the same thing as the 
vaccine.
But you did get the  vaccine and didn't eat the sandwiches...so how do you 
know?

You  don't know.

I've been using CS for ten years and haven't gotten  sick, therefore "CS 
prevents illness".
However, HAVING used the CS,  you DON'T know what would have happened had 
you not...and you just  can't do both at once to find out.

So, at best, we can draw a  general conclusion about ideas.
It's a good idea to use CSeven  if it doesn't work, it does no harm and 
it just might work, but  there's no way to know on a personal basis and 
illness is nothing BUT  personal.
It's a good idea to avoid ALL sources of mercury as best  you  can.

Ode

Re: CS>Vitamin B 5 for you old lab rats...

[Malcolm]

Anyone who battles stomach cancer successfully for 30+ years is worth
more than a flippant yak.

On Fri, 2010-01-01 at 12:27 +, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
> Not a very good sign is it?  dee
> 
> On 31 Dec 2009, at 23:12, sol wrote:
> 
> > At 10:50 PM 12/29/2009, you wrote:
> > 
> >> How and When to Be Your Own Doctor
> >> by Dr. Isabelle A. Moser with Steve Solomon
> >> 
> >> http://starthealthylife.com/page263.htm
> > 
> > I went to the site and in the forward read that Dr. Moser died at age 56. 
> > Do you know what she died of?
> > sol 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
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CS>CS;Re Dr Mosers' death at an early age

[Harold MacDonald]

Being a Canadian ,born in Alberta Canada 85+ years ago and spending time in 
Saskatchewan ,I can well understand why Dr Moser succumbed at an early age.
She went through some of the harshest living conditions with the poorest of 
sustenance,and a very stressful load; believing her story is factual.

I have much admiration and respect for what she has done.

Harold 



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Re: CS>..How many watched the video and passed on..these videos are about Autism

[Steve G]

I agree with Ode's general line here that we don't KNOW what would have 
happened had we NOT taken CS.

On the other hand. when a large group of people, such as the people on this 
list, consistently take CS and have nothing else fully in common in their lives 
and none of them get sick for years.. this is pretty compelling evidence 
that goes beyond the typical assumptions made from anecdotal one-time 
non-reproduceable results.

It's not proof, but DAMN!

--- On Fri, 1/1/10, Ode Coyote  wrote:

From: Ode Coyote 
Subject: Re: CS>..How many watched the video and passed on..these  videos are 
about Autism
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Friday, January 1, 2010, 9:27 AM


> No..actually it was a conclusion jumped to without considering threshold 
> level factors and the broader picture of sources.

 The vaccine may have crossed an existing threshold for you, but by your own 
testimony, wasn't the major source of mercury.
The chelation and amalgam removal may have brought you just below MS effect 
threshold.
 You see... 10 Tuna fish sandwiches may have done the same thing as the vaccine.
 But you did get the vaccine and didn't eat the sandwiches...so how do you know?

 You don't know.

I've been using CS for ten years and haven't gotten sick, therefore "CS 
prevents illness".
 However, HAVING used the CS, you DON'T know what would have happened had you 
not...and you just can't do both at once to find out.

So, at best, we can draw a general conclusion about ideas.
It's a good idea to use CSeven if it doesn't work, it does no harm and it 
just might work, but there's no way to know on a personal basis and illness is 
nothing BUT personal.
It's a good idea to avoid ALL sources of mercury as best you can.

Ode





  

Re: CS>Important question about reducing atherosclerosis

[Donna]

Thanks
Donna ACS

Please - look these up.  Do some of you're own research.  Your size 
and weight depend on how much you take.


John

On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 10:16 AM, Donna > wrote:


On this how much L-Lyseine&Red Clover should be taken?  And what
is EDTA?
Thanks,
Donna ACS

Gordon:

L-Lyseine is recommended by two-time Nobel Prize Winner Linus
Pauling to help clean the arteries and veins.  Also, EDTA will
break down plaque to a liquid and flush it out through your
urinary tract.  I also use some heavy metal chelators,
Pectasol Plus, Xeolite, Metal Magic and there are others
(Chlorella, etc.,) that help to remove hgeavy metals.
 Pycnogenol will strengthen the integrity of your veins and
arteries (vitamin C does, too) and Red Clover will keep your
veins and arteries flexible so they don't become brittle and
"POP."  All of this will take a while.  It's not an allopathic
10 day antibiotic treatment. It's long term.  i've been taking
all the above for years.

John

On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 9:02 PM, G Baldwin
mailto:baldwin6...@comcast.net>
>> wrote:

   List members,

   I hope someone can help me.  I have moderate blockage in
carotid
   artery.  Left ear pulsing sound caused by the restriction
is very
   distracting and seems to get louder with time.  Can anyone
suggest
   a protocol that I could try to reduce the build-up in the
   arteries?  I am concerned about a stroke.  Any helpful
suggestions
   will be very greatly appreciated.

   Regards,

   Gordon


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Re: CS>Important question about reducing atherosclerosis

[EJohns9525]

 
Here is something about L- arginine I'm thinking about getting for my  
husband and myself .  I have high blood pressure and he has high  cholesterol. 
 
 
_http://www.livingwithoutdisease.com/why_u.php_ 
(http://www.livingwithoutdisease.com/why_u.php) 
 
Edith
 
 
In a message dated 1/1/2010 9:25:04 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
jonellis.steven...@gmail.com writes:

Please -  look these up.  Do some of you're own research.  Your size and  
weight depend on how much you take. 

John

On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 10:16 AM, Donna <_dscroggs44...@gmail.com_ 
(mailto:dscroggs44...@gmail.com) >  wrote:

On  this how much L-Lyseine&Red Clover should be taken?  And what is  EDTA?
Thanks,
Donna ACS

Gordon:

L-Lyseine  is recommended by two-time Nobel Prize Winner Linus Pauling to 
help clean  the arteries and veins.  Also, EDTA will break down plaque to a  
liquid and flush it out through your urinary tract.  I also use some  heavy 
metal chelators, Pectasol Plus, Xeolite, Metal Magic and there are  others 
(Chlorella, etc.,) that help to remove hgeavy metals.  Pycnogenol will 
strengthen the integrity of your veins and arteries  (vitamin C does, too) and 
Red 
Clover will keep your veins and arteries  flexible so they don't become 
brittle and "POP."  All of this will  take a while.  It's not an allopathic 10 
day antibiotic treatment.  It's long term.  i've been taking all the above 
for  years.

John

Re: CS>Vitamin B 5 for you old lab rats...

[Steve G]

I agree on the point of view thing.  But there is a different way to look at 
it.  Not DYING at 56 being a gift, but rather LIVING until age 56.    

When my mom got polio in 1954 at the age of 40, my dad was told that she would 
die from this.  That was the most likely outcome for adults that contracted 
polio back then.   It must have been terrifying for him, the thought of losing 
his wife and finding a way to raise his 8 kids on his own.

But instead, she survived,  She lived another 35 years.   After she died, my 
dad told me that although losing her at age 75 was hard, he greatly appreciated 
the extra 35 years.  

The bottom line is that each of us gets a life.  We don't get to choose how 
long it can be, so it's up to us to do what we can with it.  



--- On Fri, 1/1/10, Dorothy Fitzpatrick  wrote:


It depends on your point of view.  I don't consider dying at the age of 56 a 
'gift' not even if it *did* save others lives (and I can't see how it did.)  I 
believe each person is as important as any amount of others.  dee




  

Re: CS>Vitamin B 5 for you old lab rats...

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

It depends on your point of view.  I don't consider dying at the age of 56 a 
'gift' not even if it *did* save others lives (and I can't see how it did.)  I 
believe each person is as important as any amount of others.  dee

On 1 Jan 2010, at 15:15, Renee wrote:

> Everyone dies.  Everyone.  When the soul wants to go home it goes, no matter 
> what the age the person is.  Sometimes we are given the gift of dying of 
> illness to help others avoid it, or to help them with some lessons they need. 
>  Perhaps because of her illness she has changed the lives of who knows how 
> many other people? 
>  
> Samala,
> Renee
>  

Re: CS>Important question about reducing atherosclerosis

[John E. Stevens]

Please - look these up.  Do some of you're own research.  Your size and
weight depend on how much you take.

John

On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 10:16 AM, Donna  wrote:

> On this how much L-Lyseine&Red Clover should be taken?  And what is EDTA?
> Thanks,
> Donna ACS
>
>> Gordon:
>>
>> L-Lyseine is recommended by two-time Nobel Prize Winner Linus Pauling to
>> help clean the arteries and veins.  Also, EDTA will break down plaque to a
>> liquid and flush it out through your urinary tract.  I also use some heavy
>> metal chelators, Pectasol Plus, Xeolite, Metal Magic and there are others
>> (Chlorella, etc.,) that help to remove hgeavy metals.  Pycnogenol will
>> strengthen the integrity of your veins and arteries (vitamin C does, too)
>> and Red Clover will keep your veins and arteries flexible so they don't
>> become brittle and "POP."  All of this will take a while.  It's not an
>> allopathic 10 day antibiotic treatment. It's long term.  i've been taking
>> all the above for years.
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 9:02 PM, G Baldwin > baldwin6...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>
>>List members,
>>
>>I hope someone can help me.  I have moderate blockage in carotid
>>artery.  Left ear pulsing sound caused by the restriction is very
>>distracting and seems to get louder with time.  Can anyone suggest
>>a protocol that I could try to reduce the build-up in the
>>arteries?  I am concerned about a stroke.  Any helpful suggestions
>>will be very greatly appreciated.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Gordon
>>
>>
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Re: CS>Important question about reducing atherosclerosis

[Donna]

On this how much L-Lyseine&Red Clover should be taken?  And what is EDTA?
Thanks,
Donna ACS

Gordon:

L-Lyseine is recommended by two-time Nobel Prize Winner Linus Pauling 
to help clean the arteries and veins.  Also, EDTA will break down 
plaque to a liquid and flush it out through your urinary tract.  I 
also use some heavy metal chelators, Pectasol Plus, Xeolite, Metal 
Magic and there are others (Chlorella, etc.,) that help to remove 
hgeavy metals.  Pycnogenol will strengthen the integrity of your veins 
and arteries (vitamin C does, too) and Red Clover will keep your veins 
and arteries flexible so they don't become brittle and "POP."  All of 
this will take a while.  It's not an allopathic 10 day antibiotic 
treatment. It's long term.  i've been taking all the above for years.


John

On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 9:02 PM, G Baldwin > wrote:


List members,

I hope someone can help me.  I have moderate blockage in carotid
artery.  Left ear pulsing sound caused by the restriction is very
distracting and seems to get louder with time.  Can anyone suggest
a protocol that I could try to reduce the build-up in the
arteries?  I am concerned about a stroke.  Any helpful suggestions
will be very greatly appreciated.

Regards,

Gordon


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Re: CS>Vitamin B 5 for you old lab rats...

[Renee]

Everyone dies.  Everyone.  When the soul wants to go home it goes, no matter
what the age the person is.  Sometimes we are given the gift of dying of
illness to help others avoid it, or to help them with some lessons they need
  Perhaps because of her illness she has changed the lives of who knows how
many other people?  

Samala,
Renee

---Original Message---
 
Not a very good sign is it?  dee
 

Re: CS>Re: Mercury, Vaccinations, Immune & Detox Question...

[Bob Banever]

Peter,

 I suffered from mercury poisoning a few years back.  I successfully 
chelated the metal out by using liquid zeolite (10 drops 3x daily for a 
month) along with burbur (an herbal preparation) and chlorella.  I felt 
better in one week although I did the protocol for one month.


Bob
- Original Message - 
From: "Peter Converse" 

To: "Hanneke" ; 
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 6:36 AM
Subject: CS>Re: Mercury, Vaccinations, Immune & Detox Question...



Hi Hanneke,

Thanks for sharing your history and your insights!

My life has been dramatically altered due to severe mercury poisoning as 
well. In my case, I was told by a practicioner back in 93' that I was on 
my way to developing MS due to the high levels of heavy metals in my body, 
most importantly, mercury.


I am very thankful that the direction of my life was altered from that 
course through the events and modalities which followed over the last 
seventeen years, including replacing amalgam tooth fillings with 
alternatives, orthomolecular therapy, herbal approaches, dietary changes, 
colonics, fasting, chelation - administered orally, by suppository, and by 
IV, and lots of FIR sauna usage. There were some other things which helped 
but these, as well as I remember, were responsible for most of my recovery 
over the years. I also received two miracles, which I would be happy to 
discuss one to one, if anyone is interested.


During the nineties my immune system had become so ravaged by documented 
extraodinarily high amounts of mercury that I developed severe food 
sensitivites, Candidiasis, lost close to fifty pounds (which I needed) and 
suffered from seasonal affective disorder, body tremours, emotional 
instability, general anxiety disorder, IBS, CFS, memory problems, 
cognitive deficits, tinnitus, depression, continual opportunistic 
infections, endocrine and hormonal disruptions and a host of other 
complaints. To add insult to injury, Lyme disease was added to the 
diagnosis, confirmed through a reputable lab.


As the years have progressed and the efforts to eliminate heavy metals and 
other toxins have continued along with  continued efforts to mop up all 
the unpleasant ancillary effects and pathogens as well as measures to 
support areas of weakness, nearly all of the issues I suffered from have 
either completely resolved or come close to becoming completely resolved, 
with the exceptions of a weakened ability to detoxify and a weakened 
immune response, which both seem to persist and require continual (and 
expensive) support.


I, as a younger and a less-informed man did not avoid vaccinations like 
the plague, as I now do, although I don't blame them or the amalgam 
fillings (as much as I hate mercury and vaccinations) as the sole sources 
of my past and present troubles. Ode has eloquently pointed out the folly 
of that kind of thinking and the reasons for it. (This is not meant as a 
criticism to you, Hanneke...please read on).


I have also come to the conclusion, through looking at the lives of my 
predecessors and my extended family, although I have no conclusive proof, 
that my genetics include a predispostion toward an inability to 
effectively eliminate heavy metals and other toxins, possibly due to 
methylation problems and phase 2 detoxification insufficiencies. These 
inadaquacies and other similar ones related to my makeup may be actually 
more responsible for my challenges than the toxins themselves. They may 
also be responsible for my son's Asperger's Syndrome (high functioning 
form of autism).


This is my background and present understanding...sorry for its length. 
Really, what I wanted to do was thank you for your great post, share a 
little myself, and seeing some similarities between your experiences and 
mine, ask you (and others) what measures you find to be most helpful in 
supporting your immune system(s) and detox abilities.


Thanks in advance,
Peter

- Original Message - 
From: "Hanneke" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 8:11 PM
Subject: Re: CS>..How many watched the video and passed on..these videos 
are about Autism



I can't seem to find my longer email from a few years ago in which I 
explained about my diagnosis of MS in 1978/1979, a diagnosis I refused to 
accept as being for real. In spite of all the tests done, and 
consultations with specialists/neurologists, I just could not for whatever 
reason accept that it was MS.  I was told I was in denial.
Possible,  of course,  but it did not stop me from starting my own 
research. I read and read, for close to 9 years. My health was 
deteriorating whilst continuing my search. In 1988, I somehow got stuck 
on notions of mercury poisoning, and possibly causing symptoms similar to 
MS. Without much, rather none,  support from doctors, I went ahead and 
had all my mercury/amalgam fillings removed. A big  exercise as such but 
well worth it.


My health started to improve, my symptoms disappeared, some slow, some 
fas

CS>Re: Mercury, Vaccinations, Immune & Detox Question...

[Peter Converse]

Hi Hanneke,

Thanks for sharing your history and your insights!

My life has been dramatically altered due to severe mercury poisoning as 
well. In my case, I was told by a practicioner back in 93' that I was on my 
way to developing MS due to the high levels of heavy metals in my body, most 
importantly, mercury.


I am very thankful that the direction of my life was altered from that 
course through the events and modalities which followed over the last 
seventeen years, including replacing amalgam tooth fillings with 
alternatives, orthomolecular therapy, herbal approaches, dietary changes, 
colonics, fasting, chelation - administered orally, by suppository, and by 
IV, and lots of FIR sauna usage. There were some other things which helped 
but these, as well as I remember, were responsible for most of my recovery 
over the years. I also received two miracles, which I would be happy to 
discuss one to one, if anyone is interested.


During the nineties my immune system had become so ravaged by documented 
extraodinarily high amounts of mercury that I developed severe food 
sensitivites, Candidiasis, lost close to fifty pounds (which I needed) and 
suffered from seasonal affective disorder, body tremours, emotional 
instability, general anxiety disorder, IBS, CFS, memory problems, cognitive 
deficits, tinnitus, depression, continual opportunistic infections, 
endocrine and hormonal disruptions and a host of other complaints. To add 
insult to injury, Lyme disease was added to the diagnosis, confirmed through 
a reputable lab.


As the years have progressed and the efforts to eliminate heavy metals and 
other toxins have continued along with  continued efforts to mop up all the 
unpleasant ancillary effects and pathogens as well as measures to support 
areas of weakness, nearly all of the issues I suffered from have either 
completely resolved or come close to becoming completely resolved, with the 
exceptions of a weakened ability to detoxify and a weakened immune response, 
which both seem to persist and require continual (and expensive) support.


I, as a younger and a less-informed man did not avoid vaccinations like the 
plague, as I now do, although I don't blame them or the amalgam fillings (as 
much as I hate mercury and vaccinations) as the sole sources of my past and 
present troubles. Ode has eloquently pointed out the folly of that kind of 
thinking and the reasons for it. (This is not meant as a criticism to you, 
Hanneke...please read on).


I have also come to the conclusion, through looking at the lives of my 
predecessors and my extended family, although I have no conclusive proof, 
that my genetics include a predispostion toward an inability to effectively 
eliminate heavy metals and other toxins, possibly due to methylation 
problems and phase 2 detoxification insufficiencies. These inadaquacies and 
other similar ones related to my makeup may be actually more responsible for 
my challenges than the toxins themselves. They may also be responsible for 
my son's Asperger's Syndrome (high functioning form of autism).


This is my background and present understanding...sorry for its length. 
Really, what I wanted to do was thank you for your great post, share a 
little myself, and seeing some similarities between your experiences and 
mine, ask you (and others) what measures you find to be most helpful in 
supporting your immune system(s) and detox abilities.


Thanks in advance,
Peter

- Original Message - 
From: "Hanneke" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 8:11 PM
Subject: Re: CS>..How many watched the video and passed on..these videos are 
about Autism



I can't seem to find my longer email from a few years ago in which I 
explained about my diagnosis of MS in 1978/1979, a diagnosis I refused to 
accept as being for real. In spite of all the tests done, and consultations 
with specialists/neurologists, I just could not for whatever reason accept 
that it was MS.  I was told I was in denial.
Possible,  of course,  but it did not stop me from starting my own 
research. I read and read, for close to 9 years. My health was 
deteriorating whilst continuing my search. In 1988, I somehow got stuck on 
notions of mercury poisoning, and possibly causing symptoms similar to MS. 
Without much, rather none,  support from doctors, I went ahead and  had 
all my mercury/amalgam fillings removed. A big  exercise as such but well 
worth it.


My health started to improve, my symptoms disappeared, some slow, some 
faster. The biggest almost immediate improvement was my eye sight. Having 
been blind in one eye for a while, my eyesight had returned bar colour. 
In the first week after the removal of mercury started,  the colour in 
eyesight returned.  This was in 1988.
I was without any MS mimicking symptoms for at least 12 years with good 
health. The only issue I see as a permanent result of the mercury 
poisoning, is an impaired/compromised immune system.


When working as an ambulance of

Re: CS>..How many watched the video and passed on..these videos are about Autism

[Ode Coyote]

No..actually it was a conclusion jumped to without considering threshold 
level factors and the broader picture of sources.


 The vaccine may have crossed an existing threshold for you, but by your 
own testimony, wasn't the major source of mercury.
The chelation and amalgam removal may have brought you just below MS effect 
threshold.
 You see... 10 Tuna fish sandwiches may have done the same thing as the 
vaccine.
 But you did get the vaccine and didn't eat the sandwiches...so how do you 
know?


 You don't know.

I've been using CS for ten years and haven't gotten sick, therefore "CS 
prevents illness".
 However, HAVING used the CS, you DON'T know what would have happened had 
you not...and you just can't do both at once to find out.


So, at best, we can draw a general conclusion about ideas.
It's a good idea to use CSeven if it doesn't work, it does no harm and 
it just might work, but there's no way to know on a personal basis and 
illness is nothing BUT personal.

It's a good idea to avoid ALL sources of mercury as best you can.

Ode


This is it in a nutshell, and although I believe your warning Steve is a 
very valid one, in my case it was not an assumption that it was the 
vaccines, but the mercury in the vaccine!


Hanneke

At 12:53 AM 1/01/2010, you wrote:


People are always looking for cause and effect.  There is a danger of 
being too eager to use anecdotal evidence to assign something as a cause 
when there are so many other things that may be to blame  The problem 
with this kind of thing is that nobody knows if there is a correlation or 
not since this is 'merely' anecdotal evidence.



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Re: CS>...these videos are about Autism

[Ode Coyote]

   Just peak at the actual "source of things" and human nature for a dose 
of reality.

..study up on "enabling" and the science of manipulation.
..how playing the "victim game" is a lose lose proposition for both victims 
and their victimizers.
..how the "Blame Game" disables real solutions and true empowerment, hiding 
what power **really** is from view.

..the difference between "power of" and "power over".

You views may be altered a bit.

I'm not a conservative...it's just common sense with a lot of every day 
trail and error experience.
I agree with some of what Liberals say and disagree with some of what 
Conservatives sayBOTH are myopic slogan parrots.

 Believers and anti believers, both miss reality.
 Neither has a corner on the denied denial market.
 Both views head for ultimate societal destruction from different directions.

..if something loses value in the process, for anyone involved...it isn't 
being "shared".


Ode

At 04:58 PM 12/31/2009 -0600, you wrote:

Sorry I said anything.  It would be hard to explain.  Something about
the pejoratives you use and the way you use them.
Probably my bias.  However, I am tired of your constant conservative mantra...

Dan

On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 5:07 AM, Ode Coyote  wrote:
> At 12:20 PM 12/29/2009 -0600, you wrote:
>>
>> Your unconscious bias is noted...
>>
>> You wrote, "Ode..neither a far left enviro-wacko nor far right "burn
>> it, baby". "
>
> ##  OK  Fill me in...what IS that bias? [I'm not conscious of it, right?]
>
> Ode
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Re: CS>Important question about reducing atherosclerosis

[John E. Stevens]

2 grams of vitamin C is not a large dosage.  Linus Pauling took 18 grams
daily...  Colloidal Silver Water is safer than Nasonex to clean out the
sinus cavities and ear blockage from it.

John

On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 11:15 PM, Marshalee Hallett wrote:

> Hi, Gordon,
> I have had a nasty grinding pulse noise in my ear for many years. I`m
> getting checked for an AVM (arterio-venous malformation) in a week, as I
> read on the `Net that one on the carotid can cause these nasty noises.
> If it is blockage, not AVM, try large doses of Vitamin C, about 2 grams a
> day or so. Helps break up the buildup of crud. Also, I take a puff of
> Nasonex in my right nostril occasionally as it helps tone down the noise. I
> guess the steroid eases the swelling in my head.
> Hope this helps!
> Marshalee
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 7:02 PM, G Baldwin wrote:
>
>> List members,
>>
>> I hope someone can help me.  I have moderate blockage in carotid artery.
>>  Left ear pulsing sound caused by the restriction is very distracting and
>> seems to get louder with time.  Can anyone suggest a protocol that I could
>> try to reduce the build-up in the arteries?  I am concerned about a stroke.
>>  Any helpful suggestions will be very greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Gordon
>>
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Re: CS>Important question about reducing atherosclerosis

[John E. Stevens]

Gordon:

L-Lyseine is recommended by two-time Nobel Prize Winner Linus Pauling to
help clean the arteries and veins.  Also, EDTA will break down plaque to a
liquid and flush it out through your urinary tract.  I also use some heavy
metal chelators, Pectasol Plus, Xeolite, Metal Magic and there are others
(Chlorella, etc.,) that help to remove hgeavy metals.  Pycnogenol will
strengthen the integrity of your veins and arteries (vitamin C does, too)
and Red Clover will keep your veins and arteries flexible so they don't
become brittle and "POP."  All of this will take a while.  It's not an
allopathic 10 day antibiotic treatment. It's long term.  i've been taking
all the above for years.

John

On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 9:02 PM, G Baldwin  wrote:

> List members,
>
> I hope someone can help me.  I have moderate blockage in carotid artery.
>  Left ear pulsing sound caused by the restriction is very distracting and
> seems to get louder with time.  Can anyone suggest a protocol that I could
> try to reduce the build-up in the arteries?  I am concerned about a stroke.
>  Any helpful suggestions will be very greatly appreciated.
>
> Regards,
>
> Gordon
>
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Re: CS> HAPPY NEW YEAR

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

Same to you Mike and to all on the list, a Very Happy New Year x dee

On 31 Dec 2009, at 22:41, M. G. Devour wrote:

> Indeed, Happy New Year everyone...
> 
> I wish you better health and blessings in the months to come.
> 
> Thank you for being in my life.
> 
> Peace,
> 
> Mike D.
> [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
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Re: CS>Vitamin B 5 for you old lab rats...

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

Not a very good sign is it?  dee

On 31 Dec 2009, at 23:12, sol wrote:

> At 10:50 PM 12/29/2009, you wrote:
> 
>> How and When to Be Your Own Doctor
>> by Dr. Isabelle A. Moser with Steve Solomon
>> 
>> http://starthealthylife.com/page263.htm
> 
> I went to the site and in the forward read that Dr. Moser died at age 56. Do 
> you know what she died of?
> sol 
> 
> 


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Re: CS>...these videos are about Autism

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

Really?  I must say I find it rather entertaining!  dee

On 31 Dec 2009, at 22:58, Dan Nave wrote:

> Sorry I said anything.  It would be hard to explain.  Something about
> the pejoratives you use and the way you use them.
> Probably my bias.  However, I am tired of your constant conservative mantra...
> 
> Dan
> 
> On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 5:07 AM, Ode Coyote  wrote:
>> At 12:20 PM 12/29/2009 -0600, you wrote:
>>> 
>>> Your unconscious bias is noted...
>>> 
>>> You wrote, "Ode..neither a far left enviro-wacko nor far right "burn
>>> it, baby". "
>> 
>> ##  OK  Fill me in...what IS that bias? [I'm not conscious of it, right?]
>> 
>> Ode
>> 


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