Re: CSVery interesting, and true
If you ever get a chance to watch Derren Brown in action, do it and doubt your senses [Mind Control with Derren Brown] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voAntzB7EwE http://www.youtube.com/user/philosophyblackbelt#p/a/f/0/vBPG_OBgTWg There are those that STUDY this stuff and most that absolutely believe such things are impossible [called suckers ] But you can be fooled even when you know you are being fooled. Ode At 06:15 AM 1/11/2010 -0600, you wrote: I've observed this on every group I've ever been in online and elsewhere. This is one of the few lists I've seen where people really freely discuss and disagree. I really appreciate this group:) Even when we don't agree:D Kudos to all of you for being independent thinkers:) This is a truly amazing thing to watch. And it's short, only five minutes or so. Man they'd have had problems with their experiment if it was me. OMG, I'd have said what I thought and stood by it come hell or high water. Maybe that's the reason I've never been chosen for jury duty, LOL. I've always been the non conformist, sigh. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYIh4MkcfJAfeature=player_embedded Perhaps this is why so many people won't try anything outside of traditional medicine, including CS. Truly sheeple. Follow the herd, don't stand out. Crowd mentality. Makes me want to gack really. It gives me the willies. Annie -- If we could sell our experiences for what they cost us, we'd all be millionaires. Abigail Van Buren -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSVitamin C and Hardening of the Arteries
Hi John, Will you please let me know whether you buffer Vit C with sodium bicarbonate and what are the major other supplements you take. Simeon - Ferratum - бърз заем онлайн!
Re: CSVitamin C and Hardening of the Arteries
Hi, Simeon: I use some vitamin C with calcium as a buffer with bioflavonoids, Alive Vitamin C from berries, and regular vitamin C with bio - no buffer. i eat about two small meals daily so I now take about 8000 mg of Vit C with each of those two meals. Supplement use needs to be customized for each individual and their life, health history, family health history - it's not the one program for everyone. I take a lot of supplements for health support: 400 IU's vit E (mixed tocoph's and tocotr's) twice a day, 100 mg ubiquinol, 20 mg resveratrol, B Complex 100, whole food B6, B12 and Folate (not Folic acid - folate - the real stuff), Vit A (cod Liver Oil), Vit D 6 - 8000 daily, prostate supoport, pycnogenol, lutein, zeaxanthan, asaxanthan, calcium, magnesium, selenium, GTF chromium, whole food VM, chlorella, zeolite, vitamin K, a cup of Flor*essence at retiring, creatine, silica, lithium (once in a while), minerals, etc., I'm a 95% organic eater including wild fish and natural grass fed meat and poultry - no GH or antibiotics. Pure Spring water is another vitamin... I know I've left some out which I'll get to later - I've got to teach this morning. Recently, my hair has turned from all gray to all blond about the color it was when I was a kid of 10 - 12... I do take an HGH activator which I attribute this change to. Yes - it's full head of blond hair - no balding... Thank you God... John 2010/1/12 muk...@mail.bg Hi John, Will you please let me know whether you buffer Vit C with sodium bicarbonate and what are the major other supplements you take. Simeon - Ferratum - бърз заем онлайн! http://mail.bg/ads/www/delivery/ck.php?oaparams=2__bannerid=5892__zoneid=17__cb=7a71d0bfc0__maxdest=http://www.ferratum.bg
Re: CSVitamin C and Hardening of the Arteries
It is like I said before on occasion, everything in moderation, even the good stuff! I know it can be very damaging to unbalance minerals which is why I don't take seperate ones now, but I thought that vit C was ok because most of us don't get nearly enough of it. I do know that since I have been giving hubby vit c almost every day, he doesn't get the broken blood vessels in his eye which he used to get on a regular basis every couple of months or less. I think it has a job to do i.e. strengthening the walls of arteries and veins, but maybe too much causes a problem in SOME people. We are all different, so need different things, which is why the so called 'normal' range that doctors use is largely irrelevant. dee On 11 Jan 2010, at 23:07, Norton, Steve wrote: I sent this once but received back an error message. Trying again. I ran across the following info that says that Vitamin C may cause hardening of the arteries. I am used to seeing info saying that Vitamin C is good for the arteries such as the link further down. I don't take very high doses of Vitamin C, 500 - 1000 mg, but now I am concerned. Anyone have better data? Thanks, - Steve N -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: [RE]CSVitamin C and Hardening of the Arteries:COMMENT
Thank you Brooks for that really helpful article. Can you say whether in your opinion, it is better to take sodium ascorbate or a whole form of vit C. Thank you again and may you have many more Happy New Years! dee On 12 Jan 2010, at 02:01, Brooks Bradley wrote: Dear Steve, We have evaluated High Dosage vitamin C INTENSIVELY, SINCE CIRCA 1975. Although I have no way of disproving the allegations to which you refer.I can not bring myself to even consider such claims to have actual merit. We have, directly, prosecutedliterallyhundreds of evaluations (involving almost 2000 people)involving vitamin C (in all of its various chemical configurations)...All without a single DETECTABLE adverse agent of influence. Although our studies were NOT double-blind in naturethe experimental subjects were ALL subjected to BEFORE and AFTER- SYSTEMIC AND BLOOD CHEMISTRY evaluated parameters. We never encountered a volunteer subject who manifested ANY challenge or insult (except loose stools; if one considers that adverse) from vitamin C dosages as high as 30 grams dailyover periods of time as long as 4 months, continually. The only detectable/measurable consequences presented were UNIVERSALLY positive. However, there were, some! times, surprising conditions.although all were positive in nature. e.g. We did encounter a number of individuals (sometimes as high as 10% of the entire test group of 45 persons) who did not display ANY measurable benefits until the dosage of vitamin C reached 10 grams daily. The spectrum of beneficial responses were, sometimes,simply breath-taking. In one limited study we compared the effects of saturated solutions of vitamin C against a wide array of conventional antibiotics as the principal address for deep penetrating wounds and major lacerations. Not a single ONE of the antibiotics proved superior to the vitamin C..and a majority (7 antibiotics) proved to be considerably less effective. Some antibiotics proved no better than tap water. I am not recommending that ANYONE take ANY AMOUNT of vitamin C---in ANY FORM. These comments are merely a simple synopsis of our DIRECT RESEARCH EXPERIENCES involving experimental volunteers.during the immediately-past 30+ years (a much longer period than we have been a chartered research foundation). I have experienced a deep and direct relationship (principally a professional one)with many facets of the conventional medical profession over the last 50 years. A majority of all these people proved to be well-intentioned, professionally honest and for the most part---capable. I have witnessed what I would characterize as ASTOUNDING.an almost total domination of both the professional and economic parameters of the national medical arena (research as well as the major elements of direct practice )by elements OUTSIDE the physical practice of the art. I will not comment on what I believe the complete nature of this influence to be. However, one particularly vexing consequence of having a profit-oriented, cartel-like, control over ANY human endeavor involving the general population of a people is...that by definitionthe continued expansion of such artificial constructs requires a dedication to net business Income.not the health and vitality of the general population.except as an accidental corollary. This observation is so obvious that it mitigates against ANY reasonable rebuttal involving common sense. I now close this epistle, hopefully, before it requires Mike Devour to declare me out-of-bounds. Thankfully, or rather mercifully, he has allowed me such an incoherent ravingat least once a yearwithout giving me the heave-ho. I did it early this year.because I am so long-in-the-tooth that I may not make another year :) . May Each of You Enjoy the Grandest Year of This Life, Namaste, Brooks Bradley. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSwattage
A PocketPuppy uses 0.168 watts max for 6 to 9 hours for a quart batch @~ 12 PPM. Figure 7 Milliamps continuous duty. Ode At 05:04 PM 1/11/2010 -0800, you wrote: Does anyone know how many watts a silver gen or similar might use. We are moving off grid with few funds and want to stay as healthy as possible.. Using MMS and Silver as our main wellness facilities. We getting a solar panel of 100 watts to run laptop and a couple of modems and one light or so... would like to be able to run a colloidal generator,and wondering if anyone has any idea..? Before I go searching the internet... thanks for all the amazing helpful and knowledgeable energy on here.. with love sunny A peek into our world.. Feed the Future - Forest gardens - Sustainable Lifetime Food for All http://www.pierresoleil.com/ourblogFeed the Future- The blog In depth articles -http://www.pierresoleil.com/ourblog forest gardens, natural wellness, human consciousness WHAT has to happen for us to evolve and emerge? Follow us on Twitter - http://www.twitter.com/return2earthwww.twitter.com/return2earth Wellness v pharma, free energy v oil, own grown v processed food, community v nuclear, natural building v concrete, consciousness v asleep Info on what's going on and alternative and natural technologies for a simpler life Tune in and friend us on http://www.facebook.com/return2earthFacebookhttp://www.facebook.com/return2earth - Pierre Soleil return to earth -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSVitamin C and Hardening of the Arteries
Crumbs John, its amazing you have time to teach in between taking all that lol! dee On 12 Jan 2010, at 10:41, John E. Stevens wrote: Hi, Simeon: I use some vitamin C with calcium as a buffer with bioflavonoids, Alive Vitamin C from berries, and regular vitamin C with bio - no buffer. i eat about two small meals daily so I now take about 8000 mg of Vit C with each of those two meals. Supplement use needs to be customized for each individual and their life, health history, family health history - it's not the one program for everyone. I take a lot of supplements for health support: 400 IU's vit E (mixed tocoph's and tocotr's) twice a day, 100 mg ubiquinol, 20 mg resveratrol, B Complex 100, whole food B6, B12 and Folate (not Folic acid - folate - the real stuff), Vit A (cod Liver Oil), Vit D 6 - 8000 daily, prostate supoport, pycnogenol, lutein, zeaxanthan, asaxanthan, calcium, magnesium, selenium, GTF chromium, whole food VM, chlorella, zeolite, vitamin K, a cup of Flor*essence at retiring, creatine, silica, lithium (once in a while), minerals, etc., I'm a 95% organic eater including wild fish and natural grass fed meat and poultry - no GH or antibiotics. Pure Spring water is another vitamin... I know I've left some out which I'll get to later - I've got to teach this morning. Recently, my hair has turned from all gray to all blond about the color it was when I was a kid of 10 - 12... I do take an HGH activator which I attribute this change to. Yes - it's full head of blond hair - no balding... Thank you God... John -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CS[List Owner] Outage...
Hi folks, There apparently was a period of several hours late on January 10th when an important server in Eskimo's system was not communicating properly with the rest of the network. They sent around a notice of the outage as the condition was being corrected. I expect this explains the transient interruption of service some of you noticed. Be well, Mike D. silver list owner [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CScapillaries in eyes breaking
The article quoted below specifically mentions that pine bark extract seals leaky blood vessels in the eye. The author of the article is one to read with caution (he's prone to hyperbole at the very least) IMO. http://www.naturalnews.com/027920_pycnogenol_diabetes.html A total of 46 diabetic patients were involved in the randomized, controlled study. Twenty-four of them were treated with pine bark extract once a day for three months while the remaining 22 were given a placebo. All the patients http://www.naturalnews.com/patients.html had diabetes for at least four years and all were beginning to develop retinopathy http://www.naturalnews.com/retinopathy.html. *Seventy-five percent of patients in the pine bark group experienced improvement in their vision* while none in the placebo http://www.naturalnews.com/placebo.html group did. Dr. Robert Steigerwalt, one of the lead researchers of the study, confirmed that not only does pine bark extract halt the progression of diabetic http://www.naturalnews.com/diabetic.html retinopathy, it can cause it to regress by sealing the leaky blood vessels in the eye that lead to the disease http://www.naturalnews.com/disease.html. Such results were witnessed in as little as two months. He also noted that diabetics http://www.naturalnews.com/diabetics.html in the early stages of the disease can prevent such complications from ever occurring by supplementing with pine bark extract. Pycnogenol, the branded formula of the antioxidant http://www.naturalnews.com/antioxidant.html plant extract derived from the French maritime pine tree, has proven itself time and time again to be a powerful protective nutrient, particularly for diabetics. When administered during the early stages of diabetes http://www.naturalnews.com/diabetes.html, many studies have shown that pine bark is effective at preventing and treating the diabetic retinal diseases.
CSChemistry question ?
Question for chemistry knowing folks. What's the difference between technical grade and food grade? Is technical grade the same as lab grade? And would technical grade magnesium chloride powder to be unsafe to make a solution from for a person to drink as magnesium supplementation? Any impurities or anything? Annie -- If we could sell our experiences for what they cost us, we'd all be millionaires. Abigail Van Buren -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CScolloidal silver
I am new at this(I just joined) and I would like to know all the things that colloidal silver can be used for. I have been a strong believer(for many years) in staying away from drugs(whether legal-illegal-over the counter or prescribed. I like the phrase Practicing Doctor who do you think they are practicing on?
CSGatorade and CS
Marhsall, Renée and others, Gatorade was created to prevent dehydration during strenuous sports and improve performance. Perhaps someone on the list who knows a bit of chemistry can come up with a doable recipe based on the following Oral Rehydration Salt recipe. In the 80s, as part of international disaster relief or humanitarian programs, oral rehydration packets were manufactured and distributed to people in areas where clean water wasn't readily available either because of a natural disaster or an armed conflict. People were dying of dehydration due to chronic diarrhea, especially the elderly and small children. The instructions called for boiling the water first and then adding the dose of Oral Rehydration Salts. The following simple formula for ORS is effective and is still being used: Sodium chloride (NaCl) 2.6 grams per liter Glucose, anhydrous (C6H12O6) 13.5 grams per liter Potassium chloride (KCl) 1.5 grams per liter Trisodium citrate, dihydrate (Na3C6H5O7.2H2O) 2.9 grams per liter That is just table salt, glucose (like honey, maple syrup, molases or sugar), salt substitute and citric acid mixed with drinking water. As Marshall mentioned in his post, just drink orange juice with a little sodium citrate or if nothing else is available and in a pinch I would drink orange soda that will certainly contain citric acid (trisodium citrate). Wishing you all a healthy New Year and with special thanks to you Mike. Carlene ** * ** *
Re: CSVery interesting, and true
thats amazing Ode, I didn't spot any of them! and I thought I was observant! dee On 12 Jan 2010, at 09:26, Ode Coyote wrote: If you ever get a chance to watch Derren Brown in action, do it and doubt your senses [Mind Control with Derren Brown] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voAntzB7EwE http://www.youtube.com/user/philosophyblackbelt#p/a/f/0/vBPG_OBgTWg There are those that STUDY this stuff and most that absolutely believe such things are impossible [called suckers ] But you can be fooled even when you know you are being fooled. Ode At 06:15 AM 1/11/2010 -0600, you wrote: I've observed this on every group I've ever been in online and elsewhere. This is one of the few lists I've seen where people really freely discuss and disagree. I really appreciate this group:) Even when we don't agree:D Kudos to all of you for being independent thinkers:) This is a truly amazing thing to watch. And it's short, only five minutes or so. Man they'd have had problems with their experiment if it was me. OMG, I'd have said what I thought and stood by it come hell or high water. Maybe that's the reason I've never been chosen for jury duty, LOL. I've always been the non conformist, sigh. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYIh4MkcfJAfeature=player_embedded Perhaps this is why so many people won't try anything outside of traditional medicine, including CS. Truly sheeple. Follow the herd, don't stand out. Crowd mentality. Makes me want to gack really. It gives me the willies. Annie -- If we could sell our experiences for what they cost us, we'd all be millionaires. Abigail Van Buren -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSwattage
A silver generator that makes about 8 ounces an hour will consume about 0.1 watt. Marshall Sunwaterclear - Sunny wrote: Does anyone know how many watts a silver gen or similar might use. We are moving off grid with few funds and want to stay as healthy as possible.. Using MMS and Silver as our main wellness facilities. We getting a solar panel of 100 watts to run laptop and a couple of modems and one light or so... would like to be able to run a colloidal generator,and wondering if anyone has any idea..? Before I go searching the internet... thanks for all the amazing helpful and knowledgeable energy on here.. with love sunny */A peek into our world/*.. Feed the Future - Forest gardens - Sustainable Lifetime Food for All *Feed the Future-* *The blog* In depth articles *-* forest gardens, natural wellness, human consciousness WHAT has to happen for us to evolve and emerge? http://www.pierresoleil.com/ourblog /**/ /*Follow us on Twitter - **www.twitter.com/return2earth* http://www.twitter.com/return2earth Wellness v pharma, free energy v oil, own grown v processed food, community v nuclear, natural building v concrete, consciousness v asleep *Info on what's going on and alternative and natural technologies for a simpler life*/ /Tune in and friend us on *Facebook* http://www.facebook.com/return2earth- Pierre Soleil return to earth/ // -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSwattage
2 watts and hour would be an acceleration of power, which makes no sense in this context. Marshall Sunwaterclear - Sunny wrote: Is that 2 watts an hour? sounds great! */A peek into our world/*... Feed the Future - Forest gardens - Sustainable Lifetime Food for All *Feed the Future-* *The blog* In depth articles *-* forest gardens, natural wellness, human consciousness WHAT has to happen for us to evolve and emerge? http://www.pierresoleil.com/ourblog /**/ /*Follow us on Twitter - **www.twitter.com/return2earth* http://www.twitter.com/return2earth Wellness v pharma, free energy v oil, own grown v processed food, community v nuclear, natural building v concrete, consciousness v asleep *Info on what's going on and alternative and natural technologies for a simpler life*/ /Tune in and friend us on *Facebook* http://www.facebook.com/return2earth- Pierre Soleil return to earth/ // *From:* TREM t...@silvergen.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Mon, January 11, 2010 8:13:57 PM *Subject:* Re: CSwattage 2 WATTS Trem www.silvergen.com http://www.silvergen.com/ - Original Message - *From:* Sunwaterclear - Sunny mailto:sunwatercl...@yahoo.com *To:* Silver List mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Monday, January 11, 2010 5:04 PM *Subject:* CSwattage Does anyone know how many watts a silver gen or similar might use. We are moving off grid with few funds and want to stay as healthy as possible.. Using MMS and Silver as our main wellness facilities. We getting a solar panel of 100 watts to run laptop and a couple of modems and one light or so... would like to be able to run a colloidal generator,and wondering if anyone has any idea..? Before I go searching the internet... thanks for all the amazing helpful and knowledgeable energy on here.. with love sunny */A peek into our world/*.. Feed the Future - Forest gardens - Sustainable Lifetime Food for All *Feed the Future-* *The blog* In depth articles *-* forest gardens, natural wellness, human consciousness WHAT has to happen for us to evolve and emerge? http://www.pierresoleil.com/ourblog /**/ /*Follow us on Twitter - **www.twitter.com/return2earth* http://www.twitter.com/return2earth Wellness v pharma, free energy v oil, own grown v processed food, community v nuclear, natural building v concrete, consciousness v asleep *Info on what's going on and alternative and natural technologies for a simpler life*/ /Tune in and friend us on *Facebook* http://www.facebook.com/return2earth- Pierre Soleil return to earth/ // -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSVery interesting, and true
I first read about the Milgrem experiment about seven years ago, and it sent chills down my spine. There's no way I would have or with any conscience could have continued to shock people like that no matter who was telling me it was OK. That comes right down to a person's character and using their own mind. The results of that experiment still gives me chills. What is wrong with people that they can't/won't or don't use their own brains? Annie If we could sell our experiences for what they cost us, we'd all be millionaires. Abigail Van Buren Ode Coyote wrote: If you ever get a chance to watch Derren Brown in action, do it and doubt your senses [Mind Control with Derren Brown] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voAntzB7EwE http://www.youtube.com/user/philosophyblackbelt#p/a/f/0/vBPG_OBgTWg There are those that STUDY this stuff and most that absolutely believe such things are impossible [called suckers ] But you can be fooled even when you know you are being fooled. Ode At 06:15 AM 1/11/2010 -0600, you wrote: I've observed this on every group I've ever been in online and elsewhere. This is one of the few lists I've seen where people really freely discuss and disagree. I really appreciate this group:) Even when we don't agree:D Kudos to all of you for being independent thinkers:) This is a truly amazing thing to watch. And it's short, only five minutes or so. Man they'd have had problems with their experiment if it was me. OMG, I'd have said what I thought and stood by it come hell or high water. Maybe that's the reason I've never been chosen for jury duty, LOL. I've always been the non conformist, sigh. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYIh4MkcfJAfeature=player_embedded Perhaps this is why so many people won't try anything outside of traditional medicine, including CS. Truly sheeple. Follow the herd, don't stand out. Crowd mentality. Makes me want to gack really. It gives me the willies. Annie -- If we could sell our experiences for what they cost us, we'd all be millionaires. Abigail Van Buren -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCell phone use on airplanes - OT
A while back we had a conversation about why you can't use cell phones on an airplane. I thought this reason made some sense. Dan From Mercola... While, in theory, using a cell phone or other wireless device could interfere with the functions of an airliner, it’s not likely. Communication systems onboard planes have been shielded from electromagnetic interference since the 1960s. The real reason why you can’t use your cell phone on a plane has much more to do with their impact on cell phone towers. If you’re flying at 35,000 feet, your cell phone’s signals could reach hundreds of towers at once, and cell phone companies are not set up to handle this type of roaming agreement. That said, if you’re a frequent flyer you should be counting your lucky stars that cell phone use is currently prohibited on flights -- and not because you don’t have to suffer through other passengers’ loud personal calls, either! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCell phone use on airplanes - OT
When inside an airplane you are in a pretty good Faraday shield. It would not affect hundreds of towers, it would in fact hardly make it out of the plane. A little would make it out the windows, but that would be horizontal and would end up going out into space. Marshall Dan Nave wrote: A while back we had a conversation about why you can't use cell phones on an airplane. I thought this reason made some sense. Dan From Mercola... While, in theory, using a cell phone or other wireless device could interfere with the functions of an airliner, it’s not likely. Communication systems onboard planes have been shielded from electromagnetic interference since the 1960s. The real reason why you can’t use your cell phone on a plane has much more to do with their impact on cell phone towers. If you’re flying at 35,000 feet, your cell phone’s signals could reach hundreds of towers at once, and cell phone companies are not set up to handle this type of roaming agreement. That said, if you’re a frequent flyer you should be counting your lucky stars that cell phone use is currently prohibited on flights -- and not because you don’t have to suffer through other passengers’ loud personal calls, either! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSVitamin C and Hardening of the Arteries
John, if you don't mind telling us, how old are you with the full head of blonde hair? Jess -Original Message- From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 6:52 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSVitamin C and Hardening of the Arteries Crumbs John, its amazing you have time to teach in between taking all that lol! dee On 12 Jan 2010, at 10:41, John E. Stevens wrote: Hi, Simeon: I use some vitamin C with calcium as a buffer with bioflavonoids, Alive Vitamin C from berries, and regular vitamin C with bio - no buffer. i eat about two small meals daily so I now take about 8000 mg of Vit C with each of those two meals. Supplement use needs to be customized for each individual and their life, health history, family health history - it's not the one program for everyone. I take a lot of supplements for health support: 400 IU's vit E (mixed tocoph's and tocotr's) twice a day, 100 mg ubiquinol, 20 mg resveratrol, B Complex 100, whole food B6, B12 and Folate (not Folic acid - folate - the real stuff), Vit A (cod Liver Oil), Vit D 6 - 8000 daily, prostate supoport, pycnogenol, lutein, zeaxanthan, asaxanthan, calcium, magnesium, selenium, GTF chromium, whole food VM, chlorella, zeolite, vitamin K, a cup of Flor*essence at retiring, creatine, silica, lithium (once in a while), minerals, etc., I'm a 95% organic eater including wild fish and natural grass fed meat and poultry - no GH or antibiotics. Pure Spring water is another vitamin... I know I've left some out which I'll get to later - I've got to teach this morning. Recently, my hair has turned from all gray to all blond about the color it was when I was a kid of 10 - 12... I do take an HGH activator which I attribute this change to. Yes - it's full head of blond hair - no balding... Thank you God... John -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCell 'phone danger
http://emf.mercola.com/sites/emf/archive/2010/01/12/Real-Reason-Cell-Phone-Use-is-Banned-on-Airlines.aspx
Re: CSwattage
Thanks folks for your response. I have been pursuing this with silver gen too. I asked a rather vague question about power and they wrote me saying this in response Thanks for your inquiry. The SG6 Auto works on 120 VAC and uses 2 watts of power. I wrote back asking this. Hi, thanks andI have more questions.;-) Simple stuff that I can't quite fathom out from the site and I'm on the edge of buying the silver gen v all others, but can't without this basic information. How much colloidal silver can the silvergen produce automatically and how much time that takes? Is the 2 watts the amount of electrical energy the silver gen consumes to produce this 'automatic amount'. i.e. if the silver gen can be set up and left to produce - what's the max amount it can produce before it has to be set up again. is it a quart,a gallon or what? how long does it take to produce that maximum amount? Our Rv has a DC system. Can I plug the silver gen into that and do I need a converter if we're using that system? If we don't need a converter, would I be able to use the system on a regular energy grid without a converter? Not sure how all this works as you can see so am repeating myself to hopefully make my info needs clear. I appreciate your patience. I am downsizing considerably to living in an Rv, with perhaps a 100 watt solar panel as our source of energy, wired into the RV DC systems so that we can use laptop, silver generator etc. A peek into our world... Feed the Future - Forest gardens - Sustainable Lifetime Food for All Feed the Future- The blog In depth articles - forest gardens, natural wellness, human consciousness WHAT has to happen for us to evolve and emerge? Follow us on Twitter - www.twitter.com/return2earth Wellness v pharma, free energy v oil, own grown v processed food, community v nuclear, natural building v concrete, consciousness v asleep Info on what's going on and alternative and natural technologies for a simpler life Tune in and friend us on Facebook - Pierre Soleil return to earth From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, January 12, 2010 10:15:18 AM Subject: Re: CSwattage A silver generator that makes about 8 ounces an hour will consume about 0.1 watt. Marshall Sunwaterclear - Sunny wrote: Does anyone know how many watts a silver gen or similar might use. We are moving off grid with few funds and want to stay as healthy as possible.. Using MMS and Silver as our main wellness facilities. We getting a solar panel of 100 watts to run laptop and a couple of modems and one light or so... would like to be able to run a colloidal generator,and wondering if anyone has any idea..? Before I go searching the internet... thanks for all the amazing helpful and knowledgeable energy on here.. with love sunny */A peek into our world/*.. Feed the Future - Forest gardens - Sustainable Lifetime Food for All *Feed the Future-* *The blog* In depth articles *-* forest gardens, natural wellness, human consciousness WHAT has to happen for us to evolve and emerge? http://www.pierresoleil.com/ourblog /**/ /*Follow us on Twitter - **www.twitter.com/return2earth* http://www.twitter.com/return2earth Wellness v pharma, free energy v oil, own grown v processed food, community v nuclear, natural building v concrete, consciousness v asleep *Info on what's going on and alternative and natural technologies for a simpler life*/ /Tune in and friend us on *Facebook* http://www.facebook.com/return2earth- Pierre Soleil return to earth/ // -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSChemistry question ?
Here is a good source of info: http://yarchive.net/chem/chemical_grades.html I frequently use reagent grade chemicals internally. If you go to the FDA definition of allowable pharmaceutical grade impurities you will see almost no difference between reagent and pharmaceutical grade chemicals. Actually pharmaceutical grade is often less stringent than reagent grade. That is because reagent grade chemicals are often used in making pharmaceuticals. A main issue is the amount of heavy metals in the chemical. Usually you can request a copy of an assay of the reagent or technical grade chemical and see what if any heavy metals are present. If you use chelators regularly (bentonite, ALA, chlorella, etc) you may not be as concerned about heavy metals. Reagent grade is a higher purity than technical grade. From thr Sci-Tech Encyclopedia: Commercial chemicals are available at several levels of purity. Chemicals labeled technical or commercial are usually quite impure. The grade USP indicates only that the chemical meets the requirements of the United States Pharmacopeia. The term CP means only that the chemical is purer than technical. Chemicals designated reagent grade or analyzed reagent are specially purified materials which usually have been analyzed to establish the levels of impurities. The American Chemical Society has established specifications and tests for purity for some chemicals. Materials which meet these specifications are labeled Meets ACS Specifications. I do use some technical grade chemicals where it is not possible or it is difficult to get reagent grade. And I do use chelators. When deciding to use a technical grade I try to get a copy of an assay. If no assay is available and the amount used is low and the purity is reasonably high I might still use it. There is no absolute answer to your question. - Steve N -Original Message- From: Annie B Smythe [mailto:anniebsmy...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 5:08 AM To: CS List Subject: CSChemistry question ? Question for chemistry knowing folks. What's the difference between technical grade and food grade? Is technical grade the same as lab grade? And would technical grade magnesium chloride powder to be unsafe to make a solution from for a person to drink as magnesium supplementation? Any impurities or anything? Annie -- If we could sell our experiences for what they cost us, we'd all be millionaires. Abigail Van Buren -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSVery interesting, and true
Off topic and yet very interesting. I heard a rumor from a friend of a friend who worked for Derren Brown. He explained to me how through a system of tiny hidden optical cameras, and earphone communication and signals, Derren Brown can appear to be a magician. I also studied the basis of Derren Brown's skill - something called Neuro Linguistic programming. I studied with the guy who created it. Much of what I learned and haven't always put into action, is that the mind has the ability to control the physical from temperature reduction to healing.. yet it requires a serious re-programming of habitual neuralapathways. So in answer to your question about how come people can't.. well some of them just can't.. we are not all equal in our abilities.. Our whole approach is the result of a mingling of parental, religious, societal waves of belief that have swept over us... and direct what data we sort for and how we filter the data that comes in. I think part of this whole healing thing is belief. Every thought we have affects our physical..emotions are literally energy shifts caused by physiological change in our bodies caused by thoughts that lead us to make associations.. and stir up the automatic instincts, fight, flight, freeze and a moving towards what works or moving away from a problem.. So whilst CS is a wonderful product because I beleive in it, it might be that for osmeone else, itwill have no effect because their physical cellular structure is being affected by their thoughts... Let us be patient with those who do not get as much as we do, just as I hope that you all will be patient with me when I am naive and unknowing.. and hold the space for all of us to emerge.. with love sunny A peek into our world.. Feed the Future - Forest gardens - Sustainable Lifetime Food for All Feed the Future- The blog In depth articles - forest gardens, natural wellness, human consciousness WHAT has to happen for us to evolve and emerge? Follow us on Twitter - www.twitter.com/return2earth Wellness v pharma, free energy v oil, own grown v processed food, community v nuclear, natural building v concrete, consciousness v asleep Info on what's going on and alternative and natural technologies for a simpler life Tune in and friend us on Facebook - Pierre Soleil return to earth From: Annie B Smythe anniebsmy...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, January 12, 2010 10:26:33 AM Subject: Re: CSVery interesting, and true I first read about the Milgrem experiment about seven years ago, and it sent chills down my spine. There's no way I would have or with any conscience could have continued to shock people like that no matter who was telling me it was OK. That comes right down to a person's character and using their own mind. The results of that experiment still gives me chills. What is wrong with people that they can't/won't or don't use their own brains? Annie If we could sell our experiences for what they cost us, we'd all be millionaires. Abigail Van Buren Ode Coyote wrote: If you ever get a chance to watch Derren Brown in action, do it and doubt your senses [Mind Control with Derren Brown] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voAntzB7EwE http://www.youtube.com/user/philosophyblackbelt#p/a/f/0/vBPG_OBgTWg There are those that STUDY this stuff and most that absolutely believe such things are impossible [called suckers ] But you can be fooled even when you know you are being fooled. Ode At 06:15 AM 1/11/2010 -0600, you wrote: I've observed this on every group I've ever been in online and elsewhere. This is one of the few lists I've seen where people really freely discuss and disagree. I really appreciate this group:) Even when we don't agree:D Kudos to all of you for being independent thinkers:) This is a truly amazing thing to watch. And it's short, only five minutes or so. Man they'd have had problems with their experiment if it was me. OMG, I'd have said what I thought and stood by it come hell or high water. Maybe that's the reason I've never been chosen for jury duty, LOL. I've always been the non conformist, sigh. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYIh4MkcfJAfeature=player_embedded Perhaps this is why so many people won't try anything outside of traditional medicine, including CS. Truly sheeple. Follow the herd, don't stand out. Crowd mentality. Makes me want to gack really. It gives me the willies. Annie -- If we could sell our experiences for what they cost us, we'd all be millionaires. Abigail Van Buren -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSChemistry question ?
Thank you Steve:) I've been looking for Magnesium Chloride so I can make it up by the half gallon or gallon, and all the 'grade' terminology is a little confusing. I know pharmaceutical grade and food grade are ok for consumption, and I figured lab grade would have to be mostly pure, but I wasn't sure that technical grade wasn't just another name for lab grade, and what do they use technical grade for anyway? I just don't want to use the wrong thing. :/ Annie Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts. (Sign hanging in Einstein's office at Princeton) Norton, Steve wrote: Here is a good source of info: http://yarchive.net/chem/chemical_grades.html I frequently use reagent grade chemicals internally. If you go to the FDA definition of allowable pharmaceutical grade impurities you will see almost no difference between reagent and pharmaceutical grade chemicals. Actually pharmaceutical grade is often less stringent than reagent grade. That is because reagent grade chemicals are often used in making pharmaceuticals. A main issue is the amount of heavy metals in the chemical. Usually you can request a copy of an assay of the reagent or technical grade chemical and see what if any heavy metals are present. If you use chelators regularly (bentonite, ALA, chlorella, etc) you may not be as concerned about heavy metals. Reagent grade is a higher purity than technical grade. From thr Sci-Tech Encyclopedia: Commercial chemicals are available at several levels of purity. Chemicals labeled technical or commercial are usually quite impure. The grade USP indicates only that the chemical meets the requirements of the United States Pharmacopeia. The term CP means only that the chemical is purer than technical. Chemicals designated reagent grade or analyzed reagent are specially purified materials which usually have been analyzed to establish the levels of impurities. The American Chemical Society has established specifications and tests for purity for some chemicals. Materials which meet these specifications are labeled Meets ACS Specifications. I do use some technical grade chemicals where it is not possible or it is difficult to get reagent grade. And I do use chelators. When deciding to use a technical grade I try to get a copy of an assay. If no assay is available and the amount used is low and the purity is reasonably high I might still use it. There is no absolute answer to your question. - Steve N -Original Message- From: Annie B Smythe [mailto:anniebsmy...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 5:08 AM To: CS List Subject: CSChemistry question ? Question for chemistry knowing folks. What's the difference between technical grade and food grade? Is technical grade the same as lab grade? And would technical grade magnesium chloride powder to be unsafe to make a solution from for a person to drink as magnesium supplementation? Any impurities or anything? Annie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSVitamin C and Hardening of the Arteries
John I admire your attention to health. And I'm wondering two thing.. how much must it cost to take all these supplements and if we dont have those kind of funds, where can we obtain this naturally. Could it be by growing a forest garden? I'm serious here... when I had money I'd buy all this stuff.. and start a regime.. but to be naturally healthy these days it appears one has to also have a lot of 'money-energy'. No griping here, I chose a life of simplicity to divest myself.. but wellness is paramount. Can anyone share how we can get these nutrients more naturally.. for example, berries from a bush and food that is readily available locally? That would be a challenge... and thanks to you all for your astounding knowledge sharing.. with love sunny A peek into our world.. Feed the Future - Forest gardens - Sustainable Lifetime Food for All Feed the Future- The blog In depth articles - forest gardens, natural wellness, human consciousness WHAT has to happen for us to evolve and emerge? Follow us on Twitter - www.twitter.com/return2earth Wellness v pharma, free energy v oil, own grown v processed food, community v nuclear, natural building v concrete, consciousness v asleep Info on what's going on and alternative and natural technologies for a simpler life Tune in and friend us on Facebook - Pierre Soleil return to earth From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, January 12, 2010 6:52:23 AM Subject: Re: CSVitamin C and Hardening of the Arteries Crumbs John, its amazing you have time to teach in between taking all that lol! dee On 12 Jan 2010, at 10:41, John E. Stevens wrote: Hi, Simeon: I use some vitamin C with calcium as a buffer with bioflavonoids, Alive Vitamin C from berries, and regular vitamin C with bio - no buffer. i eat about two small meals daily so I now take about 8000 mg of Vit C with each of those two meals. Supplement use needs to be customized for each individual and their life, health history, family health history - it's not the one program for everyone. I take a lot of supplements for health support: 400 IU's vit E (mixed tocoph's and tocotr's) twice a day, 100 mg ubiquinol, 20 mg resveratrol, B Complex 100, whole food B6, B12 and Folate (not Folic acid - folate - the real stuff), Vit A (cod Liver Oil), Vit D 6 - 8000 daily, prostate supoport, pycnogenol, lutein, zeaxanthan, asaxanthan, calcium, magnesium, selenium, GTF chromium, whole food VM, chlorella, zeolite, vitamin K, a cup of Flor*essence at retiring, creatine, silica, lithium (once in a while), minerals, etc., I'm a 95% organic eater including wild fish and natural grass fed meat and poultry - no GH or antibiotics. Pure Spring water is another vitamin... I know I've left some out which I'll get to later - I've got to teach this morning. Recently, my hair has turned from all gray to all blond about the color it was when I was a kid of 10 - 12... I do take an HGH activator which I attribute this change to. Yes - it's full head of blond hair - no balding... Thank you God... John -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSwattage
Marshall, It uses 2 watts of energy as long as the motor and electronics are operating Most of it dissipated as heat inside the enclosure. Very little power is used externally since that drain is only 1 milliamp. It was a direct answer to her question. Best regards, Trem - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 7:16 AM Subject: Re: CSwattage 2 watts and hour would be an acceleration of power, which makes no sense in this context. Marshall Sunwaterclear - Sunny wrote: Is that 2 watts an hour? sounds great! */A peek into our world/*... Feed the Future - Forest gardens - Sustainable Lifetime Food for All *Feed the Future-* *The blog* In depth articles *-* forest gardens, natural wellness, human consciousness WHAT has to happen for us to evolve and emerge? http://www.pierresoleil.com/ourblog /**/ /*Follow us on Twitter - **www.twitter.com/return2earth* http://www.twitter.com/return2earth Wellness v pharma, free energy v oil, own grown v processed food, community v nuclear, natural building v concrete, consciousness v asleep *Info on what's going on and alternative and natural technologies for a simpler life*/ /Tune in and friend us on *Facebook* http://www.facebook.com/return2earth- Pierre Soleil return to earth/ // *From:* TREM t...@silvergen.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Mon, January 11, 2010 8:13:57 PM *Subject:* Re: CSwattage 2 WATTS Trem www.silvergen.com http://www.silvergen.com/ - Original Message - *From:* Sunwaterclear - Sunny mailto:sunwatercl...@yahoo.com *To:* Silver List mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Monday, January 11, 2010 5:04 PM *Subject:* CSwattage Does anyone know how many watts a silver gen or similar might use. We are moving off grid with few funds and want to stay as healthy as possible.. Using MMS and Silver as our main wellness facilities. We getting a solar panel of 100 watts to run laptop and a couple of modems and one light or so... would like to be able to run a colloidal generator,and wondering if anyone has any idea..? Before I go searching the internet... thanks for all the amazing helpful and knowledgeable energy on here.. with love sunny */A peek into our world/*.. Feed the Future - Forest gardens - Sustainable Lifetime Food for All *Feed the Future-* *The blog* In depth articles *-* forest gardens, natural wellness, human consciousness WHAT has to happen for us to evolve and emerge? http://www.pierresoleil.com/ourblog /**/ /*Follow us on Twitter - **www.twitter.com/return2earth* http://www.twitter.com/return2earth Wellness v pharma, free energy v oil, own grown v processed food, community v nuclear, natural building v concrete, consciousness v asleep *Info on what's going on and alternative and natural technologies for a simpler life*/ /Tune in and friend us on *Facebook* http://www.facebook.com/return2earth- Pierre Soleil return to earth/ // -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSGatorade and CS
Thanks Carlene. This is a good remedy to have on hand, and simple to do. There's a guy with an organization called Small Change. He gets kids--and adults--to set aside their change, or with kids, to collect change--and this money is donated and it all goes to making these dehydration packets distributed to the third world countries. Saves so many lives and for such little money. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- In the 80s, as part of international disaster relief or humanitarian programs, oral rehydration packets were manufactured and distributed to people in areas where clean water wasn't readily available either because of a natural disaster or an armed conflict. People were dying of dehydration due to chronic diarrhea, especially the elderly and small children. The instructions called for boiling the water first and then adding the dose of Oral Rehydration Salts. The following simple formula for ORS is effective and is still being used:
RE: CSChemistry question ?
Are you considering Magnesium Chloride that is specified as laboratory grade and not just technical grade? Here is a definition of grades from a chemical supplier that defines laboratory grade: DEFINITION OF GRADES Reagent ACS -- Meets or surpasses latest American Chemical Society standards for purity. Reagent -- Does not exceed maximum limits of significant impurities as stated. Does not have ultrastringent requirements of Reagent ACS. Laboratory Grade -- Equivalent in purity to United States Pharmacopeia (USP) and National Formulary (NF) listings. However, they are not offered for food, drug, or medicinal use of any kind. Practical Grade -- Sufficiently high quality for use in many syntheses and other applications. Technical Grade -- Selected commercial grades, scrupulously clean, and of reasonable chemical purity. Where usable, most economical grade and suitable for educational purposes. There is Magnesium Chloride used for de-icing roads and sidewalks that I would be hesitant to consider for use. I would definitely want to see an MSDS or assay for it. - Steve N -Original Message- From: Annie B Smythe [mailto:anniebsmy...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 9:06 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSChemistry question ? Thank you Steve:) I've been looking for Magnesium Chloride so I can make it up by the half gallon or gallon, and all the 'grade' terminology is a little confusing. I know pharmaceutical grade and food grade are ok for consumption, and I figured lab grade would have to be mostly pure, but I wasn't sure that technical grade wasn't just another name for lab grade, and what do they use technical grade for anyway? I just don't want to use the wrong thing. :/ Annie Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts. (Sign hanging in Einstein's office at Princeton) Norton, Steve wrote: Here is a good source of info: http://yarchive.net/chem/chemical_grades.html I frequently use reagent grade chemicals internally. If you go to the FDA definition of allowable pharmaceutical grade impurities you will see almost no difference between reagent and pharmaceutical grade chemicals. Actually pharmaceutical grade is often less stringent than reagent grade. That is because reagent grade chemicals are often used in making pharmaceuticals. A main issue is the amount of heavy metals in the chemical. Usually you can request a copy of an assay of the reagent or technical grade chemical and see what if any heavy metals are present. If you use chelators regularly (bentonite, ALA, chlorella, etc) you may not be as concerned about heavy metals. Reagent grade is a higher purity than technical grade. From thr Sci-Tech Encyclopedia: Commercial chemicals are available at several levels of purity. Chemicals labeled technical or commercial are usually quite impure. The grade USP indicates only that the chemical meets the requirements of the United States Pharmacopeia. The term CP means only that the chemical is purer than technical. Chemicals designated reagent grade or analyzed reagent are specially purified materials which usually have been analyzed to establish the levels of impurities. The American Chemical Society has established specifications and tests for purity for some chemicals. Materials which meet these specifications are labeled Meets ACS Specifications. I do use some technical grade chemicals where it is not possible or it is difficult to get reagent grade. And I do use chelators. When deciding to use a technical grade I try to get a copy of an assay. If no assay is available and the amount used is low and the purity is reasonably high I might still use it. There is no absolute answer to your question. - Steve N -Original Message- From: Annie B Smythe [mailto:anniebsmy...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 5:08 AM To: CS List Subject: CSChemistry question ? Question for chemistry knowing folks. What's the difference between technical grade and food grade? Is technical grade the same as lab grade? And would technical grade magnesium chloride powder to be unsafe to make a solution from for a person to drink as magnesium supplementation? Any impurities or anything? Annie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSwattage
I was giving the amount of power that is needed to produce the colloidal silver as measured by the voltage and current across the electrodes. If one is using a motor and electronics then those would have to be added as well. However 2 watts per hour would be a continuously increasing power, that is no power when you first turn it on, drawing 2 watts after one hour, 4 watts after two hours and 2 thousand watts after a thousand hours. The only device that comes close to anything like this would be a huge inductor (probably about the size of a planet). That is why I said that makes no sense for what is for all practical purposes a resistive load. Marshall TREM wrote: Marshall, It uses 2 watts of energy as long as the motor and electronics are operating Most of it dissipated as heat inside the enclosure. Very little power is used externally since that drain is only 1 milliamp. It was a direct answer to her question. Best regards, Trem - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 7:16 AM Subject: Re: CSwattage 2 watts and hour would be an acceleration of power, which makes no sense in this context. Marshall Sunwaterclear - Sunny wrote: Is that 2 watts an hour? sounds great! */A peek into our world/*... Feed the Future - Forest gardens - Sustainable Lifetime Food for All *Feed the Future-* *The blog* In depth articles *-* forest gardens, natural wellness, human consciousness WHAT has to happen for us to evolve and emerge? http://www.pierresoleil.com/ourblog /**/ /*Follow us on Twitter - **www.twitter.com/return2earth* http://www.twitter.com/return2earth Wellness v pharma, free energy v oil, own grown v processed food, community v nuclear, natural building v concrete, consciousness v asleep *Info on what's going on and alternative and natural technologies for a simpler life*/ /Tune in and friend us on *Facebook* http://www.facebook.com/return2earth- Pierre Soleil return to earth/ // *From:* TREM t...@silvergen.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Mon, January 11, 2010 8:13:57 PM *Subject:* Re: CSwattage 2 WATTS Trem www.silvergen.com http://www.silvergen.com/ - Original Message - *From:* Sunwaterclear - Sunny mailto:sunwatercl...@yahoo.com *To:* Silver List mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Monday, January 11, 2010 5:04 PM *Subject:* CSwattage Does anyone know how many watts a silver gen or similar might use. We are moving off grid with few funds and want to stay as healthy as possible.. Using MMS and Silver as our main wellness facilities. We getting a solar panel of 100 watts to run laptop and a couple of modems and one light or so... would like to be able to run a colloidal generator,and wondering if anyone has any idea..? Before I go searching the internet... thanks for all the amazing helpful and knowledgeable energy on here.. with love sunny */A peek into our world/*.. Feed the Future - Forest gardens - Sustainable Lifetime Food for All *Feed the Future-* *The blog* In depth articles *-* forest gardens, natural wellness, human consciousness WHAT has to happen for us to evolve and emerge? http://www.pierresoleil.com/ourblog /**/ /*Follow us on Twitter - **www.twitter.com/return2earth* http://www.twitter.com/return2earth Wellness v pharma, free energy v oil, own grown v processed food, community v nuclear, natural building v concrete, consciousness v asleep *Info on what's going on and alternative and natural technologies for a simpler life*/ /Tune in and friend us on *Facebook* http://www.facebook.com/return2earth- Pierre Soleil return to earth/ // -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSwattage
How would you say it? Dan On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: I was giving the amount of power that is needed to produce the colloidal silver as measured by the voltage and current across the electrodes. If one is using a motor and electronics then those would have to be added as well. However 2 watts per hour would be a continuously increasing power, that is no power when you first turn it on, drawing 2 watts after one hour, 4 watts after two hours and 2 thousand watts after a thousand hours. The only device that comes close to anything like this would be a huge inductor (probably about the size of a planet). That is why I said that makes no sense for what is for all practical purposes a resistive load. Marshall TREM wrote: Marshall, It uses 2 watts of energy as long as the motor and electronics are operating Most of it dissipated as heat inside the enclosure. Very little power is used externally since that drain is only 1 milliamp. It was a direct answer to her question. Best regards, Trem - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 7:16 AM Subject: Re: CSwattage 2 watts and hour would be an acceleration of power, which makes no sense in this context. Marshall Sunwaterclear - Sunny wrote: Is that 2 watts an hour? sounds great! */A peek into our world/*... Feed the Future - Forest gardens - Sustainable Lifetime Food for All *Feed the Future-* *The blog* In depth articles *-* forest gardens, natural wellness, human consciousness WHAT has to happen for us to evolve and emerge? http://www.pierresoleil.com/ourblog /**/ /*Follow us on Twitter - **www.twitter.com/return2earth* http://www.twitter.com/return2earth Wellness v pharma, free energy v oil, own grown v processed food, community v nuclear, natural building v concrete, consciousness v asleep *Info on what's going on and alternative and natural technologies for a simpler life*/ /Tune in and friend us on *Facebook* http://www.facebook.com/return2earth- Pierre Soleil return to earth/ // *From:* TREM t...@silvergen.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Mon, January 11, 2010 8:13:57 PM *Subject:* Re: CSwattage 2 WATTS Trem www.silvergen.com http://www.silvergen.com/ - Original Message - *From:* Sunwaterclear - Sunny mailto:sunwatercl...@yahoo.com *To:* Silver List mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Monday, January 11, 2010 5:04 PM *Subject:* CSwattage Does anyone know how many watts a silver gen or similar might use. We are moving off grid with few funds and want to stay as healthy as possible.. Using MMS and Silver as our main wellness facilities. We getting a solar panel of 100 watts to run laptop and a couple of modems and one light or so... would like to be able to run a colloidal generator,and wondering if anyone has any idea..? Before I go searching the internet... thanks for all the amazing helpful and knowledgeable energy on here.. with love sunny */A peek into our world/*.. Feed the Future - Forest gardens - Sustainable Lifetime Food for All *Feed the Future-* *The blog* In depth articles *-* forest gardens, natural wellness, human consciousness WHAT has to happen for us to evolve and emerge? http://www.pierresoleil.com/ourblog /**/ /*Follow us on Twitter - **www.twitter.com/return2earth* http://www.twitter.com/return2earth Wellness v pharma, free energy v oil, own grown v processed food, community v nuclear, natural building v concrete, consciousness v asleep *Info on what's going on and alternative and natural technologies for a simpler life*/ /Tune in and friend us on *Facebook* http://www.facebook.com/return2earth- Pierre Soleil return to earth/ // -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSwattage
Marshall. It draws 2 watts of AC power conyiuously as long as it is turned on. Most is converted to heat. The electronics and motor use very little power.and does not increase. Trem - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 10:20 AM Subject: Re: CSwattage I was giving the amount of power that is needed to produce the colloidal silver as measured by the voltage and current across the electrodes. If one is using a motor and electronics then those would have to be added as well. However 2 watts per hour would be a continuously increasing power, that is no power when you first turn it on, drawing 2 watts after one hour, 4 watts after two hours and 2 thousand watts after a thousand hours. The only device that comes close to anything like this would be a huge inductor (probably about the size of a planet). That is why I said that makes no sense for what is for all practical purposes a resistive load. Marshall TREM wrote: Marshall, It uses 2 watts of energy as long as the motor and electronics are operating Most of it dissipated as heat inside the enclosure. Very little power is used externally since that drain is only 1 milliamp. It was a direct answer to her question. Best regards, Trem - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 7:16 AM Subject: Re: CSwattage 2 watts and hour would be an acceleration of power, which makes no sense in this context. Marshall Sunwaterclear - Sunny wrote: Is that 2 watts an hour? sounds great! */A peek into our world/*... Feed the Future - Forest gardens - Sustainable Lifetime Food for All *Feed the Future-* *The blog* In depth articles *-* forest gardens, natural wellness, human consciousness WHAT has to happen for us to evolve and emerge? http://www.pierresoleil.com/ourblog /**/ /*Follow us on Twitter - **www.twitter.com/return2earth* http://www.twitter.com/return2earth Wellness v pharma, free energy v oil, own grown v processed food, community v nuclear, natural building v concrete, consciousness v asleep *Info on what's going on and alternative and natural technologies for a simpler life*/ /Tune in and friend us on *Facebook* http://www.facebook.com/return2earth- Pierre Soleil return to earth/ // *From:* TREM t...@silvergen.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Mon, January 11, 2010 8:13:57 PM *Subject:* Re: CSwattage 2 WATTS Trem www.silvergen.com http://www.silvergen.com/ - Original Message - *From:* Sunwaterclear - Sunny mailto:sunwatercl...@yahoo.com *To:* Silver List mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Monday, January 11, 2010 5:04 PM *Subject:* CSwattage Does anyone know how many watts a silver gen or similar might use. We are moving off grid with few funds and want to stay as healthy as possible.. Using MMS and Silver as our main wellness facilities. We getting a solar panel of 100 watts to run laptop and a couple of modems and one light or so... would like to be able to run a colloidal generator,and wondering if anyone has any idea..? Before I go searching the internet... thanks for all the amazing helpful and knowledgeable energy on here.. with love sunny */A peek into our world/*.. Feed the Future - Forest gardens - Sustainable Lifetime Food for All *Feed the Future-* *The blog* In depth articles *-* forest gardens, natural wellness, human consciousness WHAT has to happen for us to evolve and emerge? http://www.pierresoleil.com/ourblog /**/ /*Follow us on Twitter - **www.twitter.com/return2earth* http://www.twitter.com/return2earth Wellness v pharma, free energy v oil, own grown v processed food, community v nuclear, natural building v concrete, consciousness v asleep *Info on what's going on and alternative and natural technologies for a simpler life*/ /Tune in and friend us on *Facebook* http://www.facebook.com/return2earth- Pierre Soleil return to earth/ // -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDarkbulb
The best news is they've become extremely cheap wink Chuck Why do they put pictures of criminals up in the Post Office? What are we supposed to do, write to them? Why don't they just put their pictures on the postage stamps so the mailmen could look for them while they deliver the mail? On 1/11/2010 11:16:58 PM, Steve G (chube...@yahoo.com) wrote: There IS a device which, when turned on, will jam all cell phones within a certain radius. I desperately want one. The bad news is that they are illegal. The good news is that I am unlikely to get caught. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSVitamin C and Hardening of the Arteries
Hi John, Thanks for sharing with us. Good for you. The cost of so many supplements would be prohibitive for most of us and it seems so much time consuming. Also I wonder how you could eat only two small meals a day. You evidently have strong will. My father and my mother died from generalized atherosclerosis and I'd like to take some measures. It would have been good if we could secure better health with less effort...arrrh. Simeon. - ICN.Bg с най-богатата гама от Хостинг услуги на Българския пазар - Професионален Хостинг за 0.23 ст/ден с ДДС, 18 GB място, Неограничен трафик и Безплатен домейн.
Re: CSwattage
What are you wanting to say? An acceleration of power simply makes no sense in the physical world. If you want power, then it is just watts. If you want energy it is watt-hours. Since power (watts) is energy (joules) per second, then watts per second would be energy (joules) per second per second. I really have no idea what is trying to be said. Marshall Dan Nave wrote: How would you say it? Dan On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: I was giving the amount of power that is needed to produce the colloidal silver as measured by the voltage and current across the electrodes. If one is using a motor and electronics then those would have to be added as well. However 2 watts per hour would be a continuously increasing power, that is no power when you first turn it on, drawing 2 watts after one hour, 4 watts after two hours and 2 thousand watts after a thousand hours. The only device that comes close to anything like this would be a huge inductor (probably about the size of a planet). That is why I said that makes no sense for what is for all practical purposes a resistive load. Marshall TREM wrote: Marshall, It uses 2 watts of energy as long as the motor and electronics are operating Most of it dissipated as heat inside the enclosure. Very little power is used externally since that drain is only 1 milliamp. It was a direct answer to her question. Best regards, Trem - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 7:16 AM Subject: Re: CSwattage 2 watts and hour would be an acceleration of power, which makes no sense in this context. Marshall Sunwaterclear - Sunny wrote: Is that 2 watts an hour? sounds great! */A peek into our world/*... Feed the Future - Forest gardens - Sustainable Lifetime Food for All *Feed the Future-* *The blog* In depth articles *-* forest gardens, natural wellness, human consciousness WHAT has to happen for us to evolve and emerge? http://www.pierresoleil.com/ourblog /**/ /*Follow us on Twitter - **www.twitter.com/return2earth* http://www.twitter.com/return2earth Wellness v pharma, free energy v oil, own grown v processed food, community v nuclear, natural building v concrete, consciousness v asleep *Info on what's going on and alternative and natural technologies for a simpler life*/ /Tune in and friend us on *Facebook* http://www.facebook.com/return2earth- Pierre Soleil return to earth/ // *From:* TREM t...@silvergen.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Mon, January 11, 2010 8:13:57 PM *Subject:* Re: CSwattage 2 WATTS Trem www.silvergen.com http://www.silvergen.com/ - Original Message - *From:* Sunwaterclear - Sunny mailto:sunwatercl...@yahoo.com *To:* Silver List mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Monday, January 11, 2010 5:04 PM *Subject:* CSwattage Does anyone know how many watts a silver gen or similar might use. We are moving off grid with few funds and want to stay as healthy as possible.. Using MMS and Silver as our main wellness facilities. We getting a solar panel of 100 watts to run laptop and a couple of modems and one light or so... would like to be able to run a colloidal generator,and wondering if anyone has any idea..? Before I go searching the internet... thanks for all the amazing helpful and knowledgeable energy on here.. with love sunny */A peek into our world/*.. Feed the Future - Forest gardens - Sustainable Lifetime Food for All *Feed the Future-* *The blog* In depth articles *-* forest gardens, natural wellness, human consciousness WHAT has to happen for us to evolve and emerge? http://www.pierresoleil.com/ourblog /**/ /*Follow us on Twitter - **www.twitter.com/return2earth* http://www.twitter.com/return2earth Wellness v pharma, free energy v oil, own grown v processed food, community v nuclear, natural building v concrete, consciousness v asleep *Info on what's going on and alternative and natural technologies for a simpler life*/ /Tune in and friend us on *Facebook* http://www.facebook.com/return2earth- Pierre Soleil return to earth/ // -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSChemistry question ?
LMAO Steve, my head is spinning. Just something that is safe to consume without poisoning myself:) Annie Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts. (Sign hanging in Einstein's office at Princeton) Norton, Steve wrote: Are you considering Magnesium Chloride that is specified as laboratory grade and not just technical grade? Here is a definition of grades from a chemical supplier that defines laboratory grade: DEFINITION OF GRADES Reagent ACS -- Meets or surpasses latest American Chemical Society standards for purity. Reagent -- Does not exceed maximum limits of significant impurities as stated. Does not have ultrastringent requirements of Reagent ACS. Laboratory Grade -- Equivalent in purity to United States Pharmacopeia (USP) and National Formulary (NF) listings. However, they are not offered for food, drug, or medicinal use of any kind. Practical Grade -- Sufficiently high quality for use in many syntheses and other applications. Technical Grade -- Selected commercial grades, scrupulously clean, and of reasonable chemical purity. Where usable, most economical grade and suitable for educational purposes. There is Magnesium Chloride used for de-icing roads and sidewalks that I would be hesitant to consider for use. I would definitely want to see an MSDS or assay for it. - Steve N -Original Message- From: Annie B Smythe [mailto:anniebsmy...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 9:06 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSChemistry question ? Thank you Steve:) I've been looking for Magnesium Chloride so I can make it up by the half gallon or gallon, and all the 'grade' terminology is a little confusing. I know pharmaceutical grade and food grade are ok for consumption, and I figured lab grade would have to be mostly pure, but I wasn't sure that technical grade wasn't just another name for lab grade, and what do they use technical grade for anyway? I just don't want to use the wrong thing. :/ Annie Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts. (Sign hanging in Einstein's office at Princeton) Norton, Steve wrote: Here is a good source of info: http://yarchive.net/chem/chemical_grades.html I frequently use reagent grade chemicals internally. If you go to the FDA definition of allowable pharmaceutical grade impurities you will see almost no difference between reagent and pharmaceutical grade chemicals. Actually pharmaceutical grade is often less stringent than reagent grade. That is because reagent grade chemicals are often used in making pharmaceuticals. A main issue is the amount of heavy metals in the chemical. Usually you can request a copy of an assay of the reagent or technical grade chemical and see what if any heavy metals are present. If you use chelators regularly (bentonite, ALA, chlorella, etc) you may not be as concerned about heavy metals. Reagent grade is a higher purity than technical grade. From thr Sci-Tech Encyclopedia: Commercial chemicals are available at several levels of purity. Chemicals labeled technical or commercial are usually quite impure. The grade USP indicates only that the chemical meets the requirements of the United States Pharmacopeia. The term CP means only that the chemical is purer than technical. Chemicals designated reagent grade or analyzed reagent are specially purified materials which usually have been analyzed to establish the levels of impurities. The American Chemical Society has established specifications and tests for purity for some chemicals. Materials which meet these specifications are labeled Meets ACS Specifications. I do use some technical grade chemicals where it is not possible or it is difficult to get reagent grade. And I do use chelators. When deciding to use a technical grade I try to get a copy of an assay. If no assay is available and the amount used is low and the purity is reasonably high I might still use it. There is no absolute answer to your question. - Steve N -Original Message- From: Annie B Smythe [mailto:anniebsmy...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 5:08 AM To: CS List Subject: CSChemistry question ? Question for chemistry knowing folks. What's the difference between technical grade and food grade? Is technical grade the same as lab grade? And would technical grade magnesium chloride powder to be unsafe to make a solution from for a person to drink as magnesium supplementation? Any impurities or anything? Annie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSA question
About 8 months ago I bought a large bottle of colloidal silver. When it was halfway done I decided to add some oil of oregano to the mix. I've been using it ever since [spraying it on my gums because I did have some dental problems and didn't want them to recur] and now am beginning to think that I've ruined the silver. ;-) Is this the case...? thanks sunny A peek into our world.. Feed the Future - Forest gardens - Sustainable Lifetime Food for All Feed the Future- The blog In depth articles - forest gardens, natural wellness, human consciousness WHAT has to happen for us to evolve and emerge? Follow us on Twitter - www.twitter.com/return2earth Wellness v pharma, free energy v oil, own grown v processed food, community v nuclear, natural building v concrete, consciousness v asleep Info on what's going on and alternative and natural technologies for a simpler life Tune in and friend us on Facebook - Pierre Soleil return to earth
Re: CSwattage
Come on... Its just watts. This is a colloidal silver maker not a particle accelerator or a spaceship. (Wayne Fugitt would be all over this one.) Dan On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 2:27 PM, Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: What are you wanting to say? An acceleration of power simply makes no sense in the physical world. If you want power, then it is just watts. If you want energy it is watt-hours. Since power (watts) is energy (joules) per second, then watts per second would be energy (joules) per second per second. I really have no idea what is trying to be said. Marshall Dan Nave wrote: How would you say it? Dan On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: I was giving the amount of power that is needed to produce the colloidal silver as measured by the voltage and current across the electrodes. If one is using a motor and electronics then those would have to be added as well. However 2 watts per hour would be a continuously increasing power, that is no power when you first turn it on, drawing 2 watts after one hour, 4 watts after two hours and 2 thousand watts after a thousand hours. The only device that comes close to anything like this would be a huge inductor (probably about the size of a planet). That is why I said that makes no sense for what is for all practical purposes a resistive load. Marshall TREM wrote: Marshall, It uses 2 watts of energy as long as the motor and electronics are operating Most of it dissipated as heat inside the enclosure. Very little power is used externally since that drain is only 1 milliamp. It was a direct answer to her question. Best regards, Trem - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 7:16 AM Subject: Re: CSwattage 2 watts and hour would be an acceleration of power, which makes no sense in this context. Marshall Sunwaterclear - Sunny wrote: Is that 2 watts an hour? sounds great! */A peek into our world/*... Feed the Future - Forest gardens - Sustainable Lifetime Food for All *Feed the Future-* *The blog* In depth articles *-* forest gardens, natural wellness, human consciousness WHAT has to happen for us to evolve and emerge? http://www.pierresoleil.com/ourblog /**/ /*Follow us on Twitter - **www.twitter.com/return2earth* http://www.twitter.com/return2earth Wellness v pharma, free energy v oil, own grown v processed food, community v nuclear, natural building v concrete, consciousness v asleep *Info on what's going on and alternative and natural technologies for a simpler life*/ /Tune in and friend us on *Facebook* http://www.facebook.com/return2earth- Pierre Soleil return to earth/ // *From:* TREM t...@silvergen.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Mon, January 11, 2010 8:13:57 PM *Subject:* Re: CSwattage 2 WATTS Trem www.silvergen.com http://www.silvergen.com/ - Original Message - *From:* Sunwaterclear - Sunny mailto:sunwatercl...@yahoo.com *To:* Silver List mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Monday, January 11, 2010 5:04 PM *Subject:* CSwattage Does anyone know how many watts a silver gen or similar might use. We are moving off grid with few funds and want to stay as healthy as possible.. Using MMS and Silver as our main wellness facilities. We getting a solar panel of 100 watts to run laptop and a couple of modems and one light or so... would like to be able to run a colloidal generator,and wondering if anyone has any idea..? Before I go searching the internet... thanks for all the amazing helpful and knowledgeable energy on here.. with love sunny */A peek into our world/*.. Feed the Future - Forest gardens - Sustainable Lifetime Food for All *Feed the Future-* *The blog* In depth articles *-* forest gardens, natural wellness, human consciousness WHAT has to happen for us to evolve and emerge? http://www.pierresoleil.com/ourblog /**/ /*Follow us on Twitter - **www.twitter.com/return2earth* http://www.twitter.com/return2earth Wellness v pharma, free energy v oil, own grown v processed food, community v nuclear, natural building v concrete, consciousness v asleep *Info on what's going on and alternative and natural technologies for a simpler life*/ /Tune in and friend us on *Facebook* http://www.facebook.com/return2earth- Pierre Soleil return to earth/ // -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List
Re: CSChemistry question ?
Buy Nigari at an oriental store. It is magnesium chloride used for making Tofu. Dan On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 2:41 PM, Annie B Smythe anniebsmy...@gmail.com wrote: LMAO Steve, my head is spinning. Just something that is safe to consume without poisoning myself:) Annie Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts. (Sign hanging in Einstein's office at Princeton) Norton, Steve wrote: Are you considering Magnesium Chloride that is specified as laboratory grade and not just technical grade? Here is a definition of grades from a chemical supplier that defines laboratory grade: DEFINITION OF GRADES Reagent ACS -- Meets or surpasses latest American Chemical Society standards for purity. Reagent -- Does not exceed maximum limits of significant impurities as stated. Does not have ultrastringent requirements of Reagent ACS. Laboratory Grade -- Equivalent in purity to United States Pharmacopeia (USP) and National Formulary (NF) listings. However, they are not offered for food, drug, or medicinal use of any kind. Practical Grade -- Sufficiently high quality for use in many syntheses and other applications. Technical Grade -- Selected commercial grades, scrupulously clean, and of reasonable chemical purity. Where usable, most economical grade and suitable for educational purposes. There is Magnesium Chloride used for de-icing roads and sidewalks that I would be hesitant to consider for use. I would definitely want to see an MSDS or assay for it. - Steve N -Original Message- From: Annie B Smythe [mailto:anniebsmy...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 9:06 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSChemistry question ? Thank you Steve:) I've been looking for Magnesium Chloride so I can make it up by the half gallon or gallon, and all the 'grade' terminology is a little confusing. I know pharmaceutical grade and food grade are ok for consumption, and I figured lab grade would have to be mostly pure, but I wasn't sure that technical grade wasn't just another name for lab grade, and what do they use technical grade for anyway? I just don't want to use the wrong thing. :/ Annie Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts. (Sign hanging in Einstein's office at Princeton) Norton, Steve wrote: Here is a good source of info: http://yarchive.net/chem/chemical_grades.html I frequently use reagent grade chemicals internally. If you go to the FDA definition of allowable pharmaceutical grade impurities you will see almost no difference between reagent and pharmaceutical grade chemicals. Actually pharmaceutical grade is often less stringent than reagent grade. That is because reagent grade chemicals are often used in making pharmaceuticals. A main issue is the amount of heavy metals in the chemical. Usually you can request a copy of an assay of the reagent or technical grade chemical and see what if any heavy metals are present. If you use chelators regularly (bentonite, ALA, chlorella, etc) you may not be as concerned about heavy metals. Reagent grade is a higher purity than technical grade. From thr Sci-Tech Encyclopedia: Commercial chemicals are available at several levels of purity. Chemicals labeled technical or commercial are usually quite impure. The grade USP indicates only that the chemical meets the requirements of the United States Pharmacopeia. The term CP means only that the chemical is purer than technical. Chemicals designated reagent grade or analyzed reagent are specially purified materials which usually have been analyzed to establish the levels of impurities. The American Chemical Society has established specifications and tests for purity for some chemicals. Materials which meet these specifications are labeled Meets ACS Specifications. I do use some technical grade chemicals where it is not possible or it is difficult to get reagent grade. And I do use chelators. When deciding to use a technical grade I try to get a copy of an assay. If no assay is available and the amount used is low and the purity is reasonably high I might still use it. There is no absolute answer to your question. - Steve N -Original Message- From: Annie B Smythe [mailto:anniebsmy...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 5:08 AM To: CS List Subject: CSChemistry question ? Question for chemistry knowing folks. What's the difference between technical grade and food grade? Is technical grade the same as lab grade? And would technical grade magnesium chloride powder to be unsafe to make a solution from for a person to drink as magnesium supplementation? Any impurities or anything? Annie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to:
CSOT... but important!
Monsanto's GMO Corn Linked To Organ Failure, Study Reveals In a study released by the International Journal of Biological Sciences, analyzing the effects of genetically modified foods on mammalian health, researchers found that agricultural giant Monsanto's GM corn is linked to organ damage in rats. According to the study, which was summarized by Adam Shake at Twilight Earth, Three varieties of Monsanto's GM corn - Mon 863, insecticide-producing Mon 810, and Roundup® herbicide-absorbing NK 603 - were approved for consumption by US, European and several other national food safety authorities. Monsanto gathered its own crude statistical data after conducting a 90-day study, even though chronic problems can rarely be found after 90 days, and concluded that the corn was safe for consumption. The stamp of approval may have been premature, however. In the conclusion of the IJBS study, researchers wrote: Effects were mostly concentrated in kidney and liver function, the two major diet detoxification organs, but in detail differed with each GM type. In addition, some effects on heart, adrenal, spleen and blood cells were also frequently noted. As there normally exists sex differences in liver and kidney metabolism, the highly statistically significant disturbances in the function of these organs, seen between male and female rats, cannot be dismissed as biologically insignificant as has been proposed by others. We therefore conclude that our data strongly suggests that these GM maize varieties induce a state of hepatorenal toxicityThese substances have never before been an integral part of the human or animal diet and therefore their health consequences for those who consume them, especially over long time periods are currently unknown. Monsanto has immediately responded to the study, stating that the research is based on faulty analytical methods and reasoning and do not call into question the safety findings for these products. The IJBS study's author Gilles-Eric Séralini responded to the Monsanto statement on the blog, Food Freedom, Our study contradicts Monsanto conclusions because Monsanto systematically neglects significant health effects in mammals that are different in males and females eating GMOs, or not proportional to the dose. This is a very serious mistake, dramatic for public health. This is the major conclusion revealed by our work, the only careful reanalysis of Monsanto crude statistical data. - Original Message - From: Annie B Smythe anniebsmy...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 12:41 PM Subject: Re: CSChemistry question ? LMAO Steve, my head is spinning. Just something that is safe to consume without poisoning myself:) Annie Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts. (Sign hanging in Einstein's office at Princeton) Norton, Steve wrote: Are you considering Magnesium Chloride that is specified as laboratory grade and not just technical grade? Here is a definition of grades from a chemical supplier that defines laboratory grade: DEFINITION OF GRADES Reagent ACS -- Meets or surpasses latest American Chemical Society standards for purity. Reagent -- Does not exceed maximum limits of significant impurities as stated. Does not have ultrastringent requirements of Reagent ACS. Laboratory Grade -- Equivalent in purity to United States Pharmacopeia (USP) and National Formulary (NF) listings. However, they are not offered for food, drug, or medicinal use of any kind. Practical Grade -- Sufficiently high quality for use in many syntheses and other applications. Technical Grade -- Selected commercial grades, scrupulously clean, and of reasonable chemical purity. Where usable, most economical grade and suitable for educational purposes. There is Magnesium Chloride used for de-icing roads and sidewalks that I would be hesitant to consider for use. I would definitely want to see an MSDS or assay for it. - Steve N -Original Message- From: Annie B Smythe [mailto:anniebsmy...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 9:06 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSChemistry question ? Thank you Steve:) I've been looking for Magnesium Chloride so I can make it up by the half gallon or gallon, and all the 'grade' terminology is a little confusing. I know pharmaceutical grade and food grade are ok for consumption, and I figured lab grade would have to be mostly pure, but I wasn't sure that technical grade wasn't just another name for lab grade, and what do they use technical grade for anyway? I just don't want to use the wrong thing. :/ Annie Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts. (Sign hanging in Einstein's office at Princeton) Norton, Steve wrote: Here is a good source of info: http://yarchive.net/chem/chemical_grades.html I frequently use reagent grade chemicals
Re: CSChemistry question ?
Thank you Dan:) That's interesting. Annie Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts. (Sign hanging in Einstein's office at Princeton) If we could sell our experiences for what they cost us, we'd all be millionaires. Abigail Van Buren Dan Nave wrote: Buy Nigari at an oriental store. It is magnesium chloride used for making Tofu. Dan On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 2:41 PM, Annie B Smythe anniebsmy...@gmail.com wrote: LMAO Steve, my head is spinning. Just something that is safe to consume without poisoning myself:) Annie Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts. (Sign hanging in Einstein's office at Princeton) Norton, Steve wrote: Are you considering Magnesium Chloride that is specified as laboratory grade and not just technical grade? Here is a definition of grades from a chemical supplier that defines laboratory grade: DEFINITION OF GRADES Reagent ACS -- Meets or surpasses latest American Chemical Society standards for purity. Reagent -- Does not exceed maximum limits of significant impurities as stated. Does not have ultrastringent requirements of Reagent ACS. Laboratory Grade -- Equivalent in purity to United States Pharmacopeia (USP) and National Formulary (NF) listings. However, they are not offered for food, drug, or medicinal use of any kind. Practical Grade -- Sufficiently high quality for use in many syntheses and other applications. Technical Grade -- Selected commercial grades, scrupulously clean, and of reasonable chemical purity. Where usable, most economical grade and suitable for educational purposes. There is Magnesium Chloride used for de-icing roads and sidewalks that I would be hesitant to consider for use. I would definitely want to see an MSDS or assay for it. - Steve N -Original Message- From: Annie B Smythe [mailto:anniebsmy...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 9:06 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSChemistry question ? Thank you Steve:) I've been looking for Magnesium Chloride so I can make it up by the half gallon or gallon, and all the 'grade' terminology is a little confusing. I know pharmaceutical grade and food grade are ok for consumption, and I figured lab grade would have to be mostly pure, but I wasn't sure that technical grade wasn't just another name for lab grade, and what do they use technical grade for anyway? I just don't want to use the wrong thing. :/ Annie Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts. (Sign hanging in Einstein's office at Princeton) Norton, Steve wrote: Here is a good source of info: http://yarchive.net/chem/chemical_grades.html I frequently use reagent grade chemicals internally. If you go to the FDA definition of allowable pharmaceutical grade impurities you will see almost no difference between reagent and pharmaceutical grade chemicals. Actually pharmaceutical grade is often less stringent than reagent grade. That is because reagent grade chemicals are often used in making pharmaceuticals. A main issue is the amount of heavy metals in the chemical. Usually you can request a copy of an assay of the reagent or technical grade chemical and see what if any heavy metals are present. If you use chelators regularly (bentonite, ALA, chlorella, etc) you may not be as concerned about heavy metals. Reagent grade is a higher purity than technical grade. From thr Sci-Tech Encyclopedia: Commercial chemicals are available at several levels of purity. Chemicals labeled technical or commercial are usually quite impure. The grade USP indicates only that the chemical meets the requirements of the United States Pharmacopeia. The term CP means only that the chemical is purer than technical. Chemicals designated reagent grade or analyzed reagent are specially purified materials which usually have been analyzed to establish the levels of impurities. The American Chemical Society has established specifications and tests for purity for some chemicals. Materials which meet these specifications are labeled Meets ACS Specifications. I do use some technical grade chemicals where it is not possible or it is difficult to get reagent grade. And I do use chelators. When deciding to use a technical grade I try to get a copy of an assay. If no assay is available and the amount used is low and the purity is reasonably high I might still use it. There is no absolute answer to your question. - Steve N -Original Message- From: Annie B Smythe [mailto:anniebsmy...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 5:08 AM To: CS List Subject: CSChemistry question ? Question for chemistry knowing folks. What's the difference between technical grade and food grade? Is technical grade the same as lab grade? And would technical grade magnesium chloride powder to be unsafe to make a solution from for a person to drink as magnesium supplementation? Any impurities or
RE: CSVitamin C and Hardening of the Arteries
Sunny, It takes some research on your part. Here is a start for some of the more common supplements: http://www.mcvitamins.com/Vitamins/vitamins-in-food.htm I did searches on all the plants I came across in the area where I live. You will be surprised at what is available to you locally. For example, I am located near an ocean and several type of kelp are available nearby. In some instances I ask family in other states to send me some plant material they have easy access to me. Or for seeds or root to allow me to grow my own. Then you will need to decide whether to just dry and store the plant or whether making a tincture or extract is the best way to store the supplements. You will also probably want to develop a way to powder the plant material. Leaves aren't so bad but dried roots and similar plant parts can be more difficult to powder. Below are some databases that will help in determining the beneficial components in a plant. I also do google searches with the plant name and benefits in the search box. The databases below are very powerful if you make the effort to learn how to use them. The databases will even tell you what part of the plant contains the nutrient that interests you most. Databases: http://www.leffingwell.com/plants.htm http://www.ars-grin.gov/duke/ http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/duke_energy/dukeindex.html http://www.ars-grin.gov/duke/syllabus/ (esp. Module 2) If you need a plant that is not available locally, then look for bulk plant sources. One I have used a lot is: http://www.herbalcom.com/. Also, look into sprouting dried seeds that are readily available in the supermarket and are inexpensive such as beans, brown rice, peas, lentils, alfalfa, etc. Sprouted seeds can have very concentrated amounts of nutrients that exceed what is available from the seed without sprouting or from the mature plant. Annie seems to know a lot of low cost sources as do others on the list. Ask when you have trouble finding an affordable source for something. Take your time and do it slowly and don't get discouraged. It will take time and you may find the learning experience very enjoyable. And you can do it inexpensively. - Steve N From: Sunwaterclear - Sunny [mailto:sunwatercl...@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 9:10 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSVitamin C and Hardening of the Arteries John I admire your attention to health. And I'm wondering two thing.. how much must it cost to take all these supplements and if we dont have those kind of funds, where can we obtain this naturally. Could it be by growing a forest garden? I'm serious here... when I had money I'd buy all this stuff.. and start a regime.. but to be naturally healthy these days it appears one has to also have a lot of 'money-energy'. No griping here, I chose a life of simplicity to divest myself.. but wellness is paramount. Can anyone share how we can get these nutrients more naturally.. for example, berries from a bush and food that is readily available locally? That would be a challenge... and thanks to you all for your astounding knowledge sharing.. with love sunny From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, January 12, 2010 6:52:23 AM Subject: Re: CSVitamin C and Hardening of the Arteries Crumbs John, its amazing you have time to teach in between taking all that lol! dee On 12 Jan 2010, at 10:41, John E. Stevens wrote: Hi, Simeon: I use some vitamin C with calcium as a buffer with bioflavonoids, Alive Vitamin C from berries, and regular vitamin C with bio - no buffer. i eat about two small meals daily so I now take about 8000 mg of Vit C with each of those two meals. Supplement use needs to be customized for each individual and their life, health history, family health history - it's not the one program for everyone. I take a lot of supplements for health support: 400 IU's vit E (mixed tocoph's and tocotr's) twice a day, 100 mg ubiquinol, 20 mg resveratrol, B Complex 100, whole food B6, B12 and Folate (not Folic acid - folate - the real stuff), Vit A (cod Liver Oil), Vit D 6 - 8000 daily, prostate supoport, pycnogenol, lutein, zeaxanthan, asaxanthan, calcium, magnesium, selenium, GTF chromium, whole food VM, chlorella, zeolite, vitamin K, a cup of Flor*essence at retiring, creatine, silica, lithium (once in a while), minerals, etc., I'm a 95% organic eater including wild fish and natural grass fed meat and poultry - no GH or antibiotics. Pure Spring water is another vitamin... I know I've left some out which I'll get to later - I've got to teach this morning. Recently, my hair has turned from all gray to all blond about the color it was when I was a kid of 10 - 12... I do take an HGH activator which I attribute this change to. Yes - it's full head of blond hair - no balding... Thank you God... John -- The Silver
CSRE: silver-digest Digest V2010 #33
I would go for ascorbate every time, since as I understand it, that is what humans cannot produce themselves (unlike the vast majority of mammals). Specifically I would go for a Liposomal version, as it's absorbtion rate is so high compared to regular supplementation, and doesn't have bowel tolerance issues. I would go as far as to say that it's even superior to IV supplementation due to its affinity to cell absorbtion rather than free roaming. There's some compelling evidence to suggest that under some circumstances it's worth going to 50-100g per day(!!), in cases such as cancer, as within the cell it can convert to H2O2. Thank you Brooks for that really helpful article. Can you say whether in your opinion, it is better to take sodium ascorbate or a whole form of vit C. Thank you again and may you have many more Happy New Years! dee
CSRE: silver-digest Digest V2010 #34
I've actually injected myself with technical grade products (specifically IGF-LR3) without issue, and it was never a concern in my mind. If you're thinking of transdermal use of MgCl/MgCl6H2O then it's even less of an issue as the skin does a fine job of being a pre-filter before the immune system gets called into action. If you're looking for something like Magnesium salt flakes that might be used for a soak in the bath, then they're most likely commercial grade. Paul Thank you Steve:) I've been looking for Magnesium Chloride so I can make it up by the half gallon or gallon, and all the 'grade' terminology is a little confusing. I know pharmaceutical grade and food grade are ok for consumption, and I figured lab grade would have to be mostly pure, but I wasn't sure that technical grade wasn't just another name for lab grade, and what do they use technical grade for anyway? I just don't want to use the wrong thing. :/ Annie
CSRE: silver-digest Digest V2010 #34
Not as thorough as Johns impressive protocol, but an easy way to resolve a huge number of modern life nutritional issues can be dealt with the following (in no particular order): Kelp Moringa Virgin Coconut Oil Vit C and Magnesium A book could easily be written on the above, but between them they cover most of the bases, and you can fine tune from there if there's a need. Regards Paul John I admire your attention to health. And I'm wondering two thing.. how much must it cost to take all these supplements and if we dont have those kind of funds, where can we obtain this naturally. Could it be by growing a forest garden? I'm serious here... when I had money I'd buy all this stuff.. and start a regime.. but to be naturally healthy these days it appears one has to also have a lot of 'money-energy'. No griping here, I chose a life of simplicity to divest myself.. but wellness is paramount. Can anyone share how we can get these nutrients more naturally.. for example, berries from a bush and food that is readily available locally? That would be a challenge... and thanks to you all for your astounding knowledge sharing.. with love sunny
CSWhere to buy CMO
List (especially Brooks), Not finding a source of Cetyl Myristoleate (CMO) locally, I searched the Internet. As you can imagine, there are many sources, each making wonderful claims about their products, and some bad-mouthing their competitors, etc. So I need recommendations from you who have used CMO with good results. What brands and sources do you recommend? What are your recommendations regarding products that compound CMO with digestive enzymes, Glucosamine, Hyaluronic Acid, etc. To keep this on topic, have you users of CMO had any adverse effects from also taking EIS (CS)? Responses either on or off list will be appreciated. Thank you, Steve Y.
Re: [RE]CSVitamin C and Hardening of the Arteries:COMMENT
Dear Mr. Bradley: Yours is a remarkable (and, sadly, all too credible) statement. I'm sure many of us would welcome your cogent explication, on or off list. I can imagine that this topic may seem to be very thin ice indeed, however, and I've had related conversations on similar matters in which my interlocutor absolutely would not say more.Nevertheless, URL links to information that may provide illumination to those seeking better understanding would be most welcome. In that regard, Mathias Rath, MD, makes some very powerful and troubling assertions on his web site. Perhaps these have some connection to the comment below. A very fine book on politics and economics that may prove of value to you and others is this one by Professor McMurtry, for whom I have enormous respect. This book was one of few that helped to change my way of thinking. McMurtry fleshes out the life economy that humanity desperately needs. The other side of things, of course, is the economy that currently reigns. http://www.amazon.com/Value-Wars-Moral-Philosophy-Humanity/dp/ 0745318908/ref=tmm_hrd_title_0 On Tuesday, Jan 12, 2010, at 11:01 Asia/Tokyo, Brooks Bradley wrote: I have witnessed what I would characterize as ASTOUNDING.an almost total domination of both the professional and economic parameters of the national medical arena (research as well as the major elements of direct practice )by elements OUTSIDE the physical practice of the art. I will not comment on what I believe the complete nature of this influence to be. However, one particularly vexing consequence of having a profit-oriented, cartel-like, control over ANY human endeavor involving the general population of a people is...that by definitionthe continued expansion of such artificial constructs requires a dedication to net business Income.not the health and vitality of the general population.except as an accidental corollary. This observation is so obvious that it mitigates against ANY reasonable rebuttal involving common sense. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSWhere to buy CMO
Hi, Steve, I used the Duoflex brand and it worked wonderfully! (I also no longer drink milk, and since I learned that trick, I have no more joint pains or snapping knees.) I gave a canine brand of CMO (Cetyl M) to my 9 year old Pug, who was limping a lot and sleeping most of the day, now she is much more active and playful. Hope this will help! Marshalee On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 9:13 PM, SJY you...@relia.net wrote: List (especially Brooks), Not finding a source of Cetyl Myristoleate (CMO) locally, I searched the Internet. As you can imagine, there are many sources, each making wonderful claims about their products, and some bad-mouthing their competitors, etc. So I need recommendations from you who have used CMO with good results. What brands and sources do you recommend? What are your recommendations regarding products that compound CMO with digestive enzymes, Glucosamine, Hyaluronic Acid, etc. To keep this on topic, have you users of CMO had any adverse effects from also taking EIS (CS)? Responses either on or off list will be appreciated. Thank you, Steve Y.
Re: CSwattage
Yes, Marshall is correct. Obtuse, pedantic, but correct. I'm on his side. :-) OK. Tony On 12 Jan 2010 at 15:35, Dan Nave wrote about : Subject : Re: CSwattage Come on... Its just watts. This is a colloidal silver maker not a particle accelerator or a spaceship. (Wayne Fugitt would be all over this one.) Dan On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 2:27 PM, Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: What are you wanting to say? An acceleration of power simply makes no sense in the physical world. If you want power, then it is just watts. If you want energy it is watt-hours. Since power (watts) is energy (joules) per second, then watts per second would be energy (joules) per second per second. I really have no idea what is trying to be said. Marshall Dan Nave wrote: How would you say it? Dan On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote:I was giving the amount of power that is needed to produce the colloidal silver as measured by the voltage and current across the electrodes. If one is using a motor and electronics then those would have to be added as well. However 2 watts per hour would be a continuously increasing power, that is no power when you first turn it on, drawing 2 watts after one hour, 4 watts after two hours and 2 thousand watts after a thousand hours. The only device that comes close to anything like this would be a huge inductor (probably about the size of a planet). That is why I said that makes no sense for what is for all practical purposes a resistive load. Marshall TREM wrote: Marshall, It uses 2 watts of energy as long as the motor and electronics are operating Most of it dissipated as heat inside the enclosure. Very little power is used externally since that drain is only 1 milliamp. It was a direct answer to her question.Best regards, Trem - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 7:16 AM Subject: Re: CSwattage 2 watts and hour would be an acceleration of power, which makes no sense in this context. Marshall Sunwaterclear - Sunny wrote:Is that 2 watts an hour? sounds great! */A peek into our world/*... Feed the Future - Forest gardens - Sustainable Lifetime Food for All *Feed the Future-* *The blog* In depth articles *-* forest gardens, natural wellness, human consciousness WHAT has to happen for us to evolve and emerge? http://www.pierresoleil.com/ourblog /**/ /*Follow us on Twitter - **www.twitter.com/return2earth* http://www.twitter.com/return2earth Wellness v pharma, free energy v oil, own grown v processed food, community v nuclear, natural building v concrete, consciousness v asleep *Info on what's going on and alternative and natural technologies for a simpler life*/ /Tune in and friend us on *Facebook* http://www.facebook.com/return2earth- Pierre Soleil return to earth/ // *From:* TREM t...@silvergen.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Mon, January 11, 2010 8:13:57 PM *Subject:* Re: CSwattage 2 WATTS Trem www.silvergen.com http://www.silvergen.com/ - Original Message - *From:* Sunwaterclear - Sunny mailto:sunwatercl...@yahoo.com *To:* Silver List mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Monday, January 11, 2010 5:04 PM *Subject:* CSwattage Does anyone know how many watts a silver gen or similar might use. We are moving off grid with few funds and want to stay as healthy as possible.. Using MMS and Silver as our main wellness facilities. We getting a solar panel of 100 watts to run laptop and a couple of modems and one light or so... would like to be able to run a colloidal generator,and wondering if anyone has any idea..? Before I go searching the internet... thanks for all the amazing helpful and knowledgeable energy on here.. with love sunny */A peek into our world/*.. Feed the Future - Forest gardens - Sustainable Lifetime Food for All *Feed the Future-* *The blog* In depth articles *-* forest gardens, natural wellness, human consciousness WHAT has to happen for us to evolve and emerge? http://www.pierresoleil.com/ourblog /**/ /*Follow us on Twitter - **www.twitter.com/return2earth* http://www.twitter.com/return2earth Wellness v pharma, free energy v oil, own grown v processed food, community v nuclear, natural building v concrete, consciousness v asleep *Info on what's going on and alternative and natural technologies for a simpler life*/ /Tune in and friend us on *Facebook* http://www.facebook.com/return2earth- Pierre Soleil return to earth/ // -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing
Re: CSLove and American Water Distillers
At 04:33 PM 1/10/2010, you wrote: How was the water quality, as far as purity goes? I find generally that sellers and manufacturers promise the moon but user experience differs from the promised results. It depended on the quality of the water going IN to be distilled. There is something in the water here that doesn't distill out easily. So at some times of the year, usually in late spring when the river is running very high, I could distill once and the water would be fine. At other times of the year, when the river is low I'd have to double distill to get it pure enough. I may have been lucky. Right now the purchased distilled water is running a bit higher on the meter (about .5 to .6 uS) than I preferred to have it from the home still. But it is making perfectly clear CS. This may indicate that the source of the water that is being distilled and sold here now has changed. What comes out of a distiller depends in part at least on what goes into it, in my experience. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSemail jumbled?
At 04:51 PM 1/10/2010, you wrote: That is really weird. The email I directly write to the silver list addy, is going through, but the reply to Sol's post keeps getting returned as undeliverable. Hi, It may be due to my ongoing computer problems. We just found out the router we bought last month is defective, so I've had many multiple problems connecting to the internet, and I've been without email for varying periods of time. I'm not sure why that would make email to me undeliverable, though, so it may be unrelated. Or yahoo could be bouncing my mail? It shouldn't be, I do not use Yahoo mail, but Yahoo has bounced my personal mail before which was really strange, and kinda scary.. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: vision ware, was Re: CSWhere to find pure sodium bicarbonate
At 05:32 PM 1/10/2010, you wrote: Sol: Do you really think the aluminum is safe? Yes, I don't worry about aluminum. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSemail jumbled?
Heya Sol:) Nope, I was replying to the list. Mike posted a message today, said there was a problem with the servers, or something, going on at that time. Annie Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts. (Sign hanging in Einstein's office at Princeton) -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSbronchitis ?
It is safe and will keep the tank water clean, but the silver does not pass into the steam but is left behind in the tank. sol Last night I put a simple $20 steam humidifier in his room and added about 8 oz of colloidal silver to the water. He seems much better this morning. I was just wondering if this is safeto add colloidal silver to tap water in a steamer? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
