Re: CSGoogle Launches Encrypted Search and also Encrypted Gmail Option

2010-05-26 Thread Rowena
What they were complaining about is that they kind of sucked in info 
from people's wi-fi setups, not just taking the pictures.


I've been down all sorts of Googled lanes too, and have got to know my 
childhood area better in Australia than when I was over there, and saved 
and edited the photos to boot. (But they so often go down a lane and 
then stop and, presumably, go back with the camera off, instead of going 
all the way down to the next road!)


I've clambered all around Everest, sniffed the dust in Babylon, stared 
slack jawed at Pompeii, searched minesites and cattle stations in 
Queensland, and next week I think I might Google-tour Jane's hillside 
retreat!


And a couple of months ago when Google cameras came down our road again, 
I gave them a wave, so watch out for me!


R

On 26/05/2010 1:44 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:

I love Google, especially Google Earth where you can go down all the lanes and 
see where people live.  The privacy thing doesn't bother me at all--after all, 
they only take the picture once.  It is really helpful when you are trying to 
choose a new place to live, because you can look at all the different areas to 
see if you will like them--without leaving the front room.  dee

On 25 May 2010, at 17:54, Rowena wrote:

   


It was on the news here in Australia that Google is being frowned upon for 
spying on the houses it passes as it takes photos.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/05/25/2908415.htm  quoted in part:

Communications Minister Stephen Conroy has lashed out at Google, accusing the 
internet giant of the single biggest breach of privacy in history.

In recent weeks Google has been criticised after revelations that its Street 
View photo cars were also collecting information about people's wireless 
internet connections.

.
 


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Re: CSGoogle Launches Encrypted Search and also Encrypted Gmail Option

2010-05-26 Thread Jane MacRoss
LOL - last time someone sent me a picture of my place it was either out of 
range OR the garbage bins were out the front!!!

Jane 

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  - Original Message - 
  From: Rowena 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 5:03 PM
  Subject: Re: CSGoogle Launches Encrypted Search and also Encrypted Gmail 
Option


  What they were complaining about is that they kind of sucked in info from 
people's wi-fi setups, not just taking the pictures.

  I've been down all sorts of Googled lanes too, and have got to know my 
childhood area better in Australia than when I was over there, and saved and 
edited the photos to boot.  (But they so often go down a lane and then stop 
and, presumably, go back with the camera off, instead of going all the way down 
to the next road!)  

  I've clambered all around Everest, sniffed the dust in Babylon, stared slack 
jawed at Pompeii, searched minesites and cattle stations in Queensland, and 
next week I think I might Google-tour Jane's hillside retreat!

  And a couple of months ago when Google cameras came down our road again, I 
gave them a wave, so watch out for me!

  R

  On 26/05/2010 1:44 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: 
I love Google, especially Google Earth where you can go down all the lanes and 
see where people live.  The privacy thing doesn't bother me at all--after all, 
they only take the picture once.  It is really helpful when you are trying to 
choose a new place to live, because you can look at all the different areas to 
see if you will like them--without leaving the front room.  dee

On 25 May 2010, at 17:54, Rowena wrote:

  
It was on the news here in Australia that Google is being frowned upon for 
spying on the houses it passes as it takes photos.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/05/25/2908415.htm  quoted in part:

Communications Minister Stephen Conroy has lashed out at Google, accusing the 
internet giant of the single biggest breach of privacy in history.

In recent weeks Google has been criticised after revelations that its Street 
View photo cars were also collecting information about people's wireless 
internet connections.

.

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RE: CSAny recipes for a natural sunscreen cream?

2010-05-26 Thread Dianne France

I haven't tried this one but saved it to make this year.  It

was a post from a friend.

 

Here is my recipe for homemade sunscreen:

Lotion:
48 g liquid oil (can use olive, sweet almond, etc)
52 g coconut oil
20 g emulsifying wax (to mix water and oil)
10 g stearic acid (to thicken)

380 g water
10 g vegetable glycerine
35 g zinc oxide

Heat first 4 ingredients in a double boiler until incorporated. 
Then, with a hand blender, mix oil mixture into water until creamy 
and thickened. Add glycerine and zinc with blender. You can also 
add essential oils of your choice for fragrance (about 5 g for this 
recipe).

www.SoapGoods.com had all the supplies. 

If you have a favorite lotion, just use that and add 25% zinc oxide 
to the bottle- it's that easy! ( for an 8oz bottle, that would be 2 
oz zinc oxide)

 

 

- Original Message - 
From: Lisa 
To: Lisa 
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 7:12 PM
Subject: CSAny recipes for a natural sunscreen cream?



Hi All,
 
I’m looking to create a natural sunscreen cream for my kids on those days that 
they’re out in the sun all day. I do know how important it is for them to get 
some sun in order to keep their Vit D stores up: however, with TBall and 
beaches etc., I’d like to get them protected with something that’s not full of 
gunk.
 
Anybody?
 
Thanks in advance…
 
Lisa  
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Re: CSResipe Tincture of Cayenne is made with Ever-Clear Grain Alcohol

2010-05-26 Thread Ode Coyote



  Uh..not real fond of extremely hot/spicy food.
In this case, possible charcoal briquette with paws.

I crushed 3 of them for a big pot of soup, decided one was enough.
It was more than enough. [on the warm side of just right]

Ode


At 10:31 PM 5/25/2010 -0500, you wrote:

Ever tried shooting any varmints with that?...

Dan


On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 8:10 AM, Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net wrote:


  My neighbor is a Mex dude that grows all sorts of peppers...like tiny
 little yellow round ones about as big as a BB..that, if placed IN a BB gun
 will burn a hole right through a cider bock on impact.

 Ode


 At 11:17 AM 5/24/2010 -0500, you wrote:

 If you find a store that caters to Hispanics, they will have lots of
 different types of hot peppers.  Here they are in every store though.

 Samala,
 Renee

 ---Original Message---



 I'll have to keep my eye out for fresh ­ but here in NH, there's not a lot
 of real, hot peppers around!




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RE: CSResipe Tincture of Cayenne is made with Ever-Clear Grain Alcohol

2010-05-26 Thread Ode Coyote



  I  Think he calls them Texas wild peppers.
Even if it ain't big, it believes it is and behaves that way...right?
The biggest little pepper in Texas.

Ode


At 03:30 PM 5/25/2010 -0500, you wrote:
Ooo, I've never seen those.  Wonder what they are?  Wish I had some of 
those seeds!  I'd plant them next to my wild chili pequins.  We actually 
have 2 types of the wild ones here--both turn red.  Pequins are more round 
and the petines are egg shapped, both very tiny though.


Samala,
Renee

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   My neighbor is a Mex dude that grows all sorts of peppers...like tiny
little yellow round ones about as big as a BB..that, if placed IN a BB gun
will burn a hole right through a cider bock on impact.




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Re: CSantidoting cayenne

2010-05-26 Thread Ode Coyote



 Uhh...not exactly.
More like DUCK  TUCK and HIDE !!
I'd settle for... memorable.

Ode


At 03:31 PM 5/25/2010 -0500, you wrote:

Lol

Hard lesson, huh?  ;-)

Samala

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   ..and if you're a guy...wash those hands before  you go pee. [Another
one from the Book Of Accidental Revelations, Sub chapter Peters Peppers]




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Re: CSGoogle Launches Encrypted Search and also Encrypted Gmail Option

2010-05-26 Thread Donna

use Scroggle.org

http://scroogle.org/cgi-bin/scraper.htm

Donna ACS

I would love to have another search engine to go to for information 
but don't know an encrypted site.  Information please.
I feel our freedoms are slowly being erroded away.  Kinda like how do 
you boil a frog story...heat the water slow enough and he

never jumps out.

Dianne

 Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 16:52:16 -0400
 From: bodhisat...@mutemail.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSGoogle Launches Encrypted Search and also Encrypted 
Gmail Option


 The problem is, Google isn't to be trusted. NSA/CIA have people 
littered

 through the company, and in fact, black-ops funding helped Google along
 apparently.. I would never, ever trust them, and do not use any of 
their

 services.

 Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
  I love Google, especially Google Earth where you can go down all 
the lanes and see where people live. The privacy thing doesn't bother 
me at all--after all, they only take the picture once. It is really 
helpful when you are trying to choose a new place to live, because you 
can look at all the different areas to see if you will like 
them--without leaving the front room. dee

 
  On 25 May 2010, at 17:54, Rowena wrote:
 
 


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Re: CSGoogle Launches Encrypted Search and also Encrypted Gmail Option

2010-05-26 Thread bodhisattva
I had all of the images of my place scrubbed from all of the engines.  I 
went through, 1 by 1, and had all of our personal data, phone numbers, 
and backgrounds scrubbed from all of the online services as well. Some 
of them require a notarized declaration to do this, others  you have to 
push through an attorney, but most are pretty easy.


In my line of work, and my wifes, privacy is essential.  If you check my 
email headers, you'll find them blank. If you find my IP, it's not mine, 
it is mutated every few weeks to a different one (Millions of 
potentials), at a different geographical location. My connection is a 
2048-Bit Encrypted tunnel and the key is re-keyed every few weeks. If 
you google search this email address you will find 3 link, and 2 of them 
are from Mikes Archives. In 6 months I won't have the same email 
address, it will be out of some tropical island or some such overseas 
server.


These are all prudent precautions. Why make it easy for anyone?

Jane MacRoss wrote:
LOL - last time someone sent me a picture of my place it was either 
out of range OR the garbage bins were out the front!!!
 
Jane
 
http://www.eamega.com/HighFieldHealth

~The Highest Field of Energy Healing you now!~

- Original Message -
*From:* Rowena mailto:new...@internode.on.net
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, May 26, 2010 5:03 PM
*Subject:* Re: CSGoogle Launches Encrypted Search and also
Encrypted Gmail Option

What they were complaining about is that they kind of sucked in
info from people's wi-fi setups, not just taking the pictures.

I've been down all sorts of Googled lanes too, and have got to
know my childhood area better in Australia than when I was over
there, and saved and edited the photos to boot.  (But they so
often go down a lane and then stop and, presumably, go back with
the camera off, instead of going all the way down to the next road!) 


I've clambered all around Everest, sniffed the dust in Babylon,
stared slack jawed at Pompeii, searched minesites and cattle
stations in Queensland, and next week I think I might Google-tour
Jane's hillside retreat!

And a couple of months ago when Google cameras came down our road
again, I gave them a wave, so watch out for me!

R

On 26/05/2010 1:44 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:

I love Google, especially Google Earth where you can go down all the lanes 
and see where people live.  The privacy thing doesn't bother me at all--after 
all, they only take the picture once.  It is really helpful when you are trying 
to choose a new place to live, because you can look at all the different areas 
to see if you will like them--without leaving the front room.  dee

On 25 May 2010, at 17:54, Rowena wrote:

  

It was on the news here in Australia that Google is being frowned upon for 
spying on the houses it passes as it takes photos.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/05/25/2908415.htm  quoted in part:

Communications Minister Stephen Conroy has lashed out at Google, accusing 
the internet giant of the single biggest breach of privacy in history.

In recent weeks Google has been criticised after revelations that its 
Street View photo cars were also collecting information about people's wireless 
internet connections.

.







Re: CSGoogle Launches Encrypted Search and also Encrypted Gmail Option

2010-05-26 Thread needling around
How do we go about doing this???
Thanks.
PT
  - Original Message - 
  From: bodhisattva 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 9:32 AM
  Subject: Re: CSGoogle Launches Encrypted Search and also Encrypted Gmail 
Option


  I had all of the images of my place scrubbed from all of the engines.  I went 
through, 1 by 1, and had all of our personal data, phone numbers, and 
backgrounds scrubbed from all of the online services as well. Some of them 
require a notarized declaration to do this, others  you have to push through an 
attorney, but most are pretty easy.

  In my line of work, and my wifes, privacy is essential.  If you check my 
email headers, you'll find them blank. If you find my IP, it's not mine, it is 
mutated every few weeks to a different one (Millions of potentials), at a 
different geographical location. My connection is a 2048-Bit Encrypted tunnel 
and the key is re-keyed every few weeks. If you google search this email 
address you will find 3 link, and 2 of them are from Mikes Archives. In 6 
months I won't have the same email address, it will be out of some tropical 
island or some such overseas server.

  These are all prudent precautions. Why make it easy for anyone?

  Jane MacRoss wrote: 
LOL - last time someone sent me a picture of my place it was either out of 
range OR the garbage bins were out the front!!!

Jane 

http://www.eamega.com/HighFieldHealth
~The Highest Field of Energy Healing you now!~
  - Original Message - 
  From: Rowena 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 5:03 PM
  Subject: Re: CSGoogle Launches Encrypted Search and also Encrypted Gmail 
Option


  What they were complaining about is that they kind of sucked in info from 
people's wi-fi setups, not just taking the pictures.

  I've been down all sorts of Googled lanes too, and have got to know my 
childhood area better in Australia than when I was over there, and saved and 
edited the photos to boot.  (But they so often go down a lane and then stop 
and, presumably, go back with the camera off, instead of going all the way down 
to the next road!)  

  I've clambered all around Everest, sniffed the dust in Babylon, stared 
slack jawed at Pompeii, searched minesites and cattle stations in Queensland, 
and next week I think I might Google-tour Jane's hillside retreat!

  And a couple of months ago when Google cameras came down our road again, 
I gave them a wave, so watch out for me!

  R

  On 26/05/2010 1:44 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: 
I love Google, especially Google Earth where you can go down all the lanes and 
see where people live.  The privacy thing doesn't bother me at all--after all, 
they only take the picture once.  It is really helpful when you are trying to 
choose a new place to live, because you can look at all the different areas to 
see if you will like them--without leaving the front room.  dee

On 25 May 2010, at 17:54, Rowena wrote:

  It was on the news here in Australia that Google is being frowned upon for 
spying on the houses it passes as it takes photos.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/05/25/2908415.htm  quoted in part:

Communications Minister Stephen Conroy has lashed out at Google, accusing the 
internet giant of the single biggest breach of privacy in history.

In recent weeks Google has been criticised after revelations that its Street 
View photo cars were also collecting information about people's wireless 
internet connections.

.



Re: CSGoogle Launches Encrypted Search and also Encrypted Gmail Option

2010-05-26 Thread bodhisattva
I wrote a tutorial on some of it, I was going to put together an E_Book 
and never got it done. Orgonite has kept me very busy.  But I can give 
you a list of the basis.  On Google Street View, there is a tiny button 
at the bottom, you have to look really hard, and it says Report Image, 
then you report it, say your privacy is being impeded, and they remove 
it.  Usually they remove just your home, but you can still see your home 
from other angles, so you report those each separately, and they pull 
them too. Before you know it, half your street is pulled.


For the others, I'll dig up my list.. Hope I can find it. I take privacy 
very seriously, electronic stuff is just a trojan horse for ever 
increasing totalitarianism.


For example, one Trick they use is to get you to knowingly submit to 
your own data mining. Facebook(Fedbook) is a good example, it's really a 
front company for intel divisions to gather immense data on people.  But 
never join shoppers clubs, discount clubs, shopper cards, any of this, 
it's all datamined and shared.  Remember, nothing is free from corporate 
scums, if they give you 10% off your purchase for signing up for Joe 
Smith Discount Club, what you are really doing is Opting-In to full 
monitoring of your purchases. Tivo for example, unless you call and 
demand an Opt-Out (All), they monitor every second of your TV usage, and 
then give this away to anyone they feel like. They don't tell you this, 
but I can show you how to find out from the Tivo screens if they are 
doing this - and they usually are.


Big brother is here, bigger than ever before. I hope people stop 
willingly giving out their lives to these corrupt fools. Implants? 
Already here. Heck, most people don't need implants, they carry around 
an implant already. (Cell phone)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TN5phfu3mE
WARNING Facebook

If you own a cell phone (and I do not), watch this video..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ze3MOkXUaTI

needling around wrote:

How do we go about doing this???
Thanks.
PT

- Original Message -
*From:* bodhisattva mailto:bodhisat...@mutemail.com
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, May 26, 2010 9:32 AM
*Subject:* Re: CSGoogle Launches Encrypted Search and also
Encrypted Gmail Option

I had all of the images of my place scrubbed from all of the
engines.  I went through, 1 by 1, and had all of our personal
data, phone numbers, and backgrounds scrubbed from all of the
online services as well. Some of them require a notarized
declaration to do this, others  you have to push through an
attorney, but most are pretty easy.

In my line of work, and my wifes, privacy is essential.  If you
check my email headers, you'll find them blank. If you find my IP,
it's not mine, it is mutated every few weeks to a different one
(Millions of potentials), at a different geographical location. My
connection is a 2048-Bit Encrypted tunnel and the key is re-keyed
every few weeks. If you google search this email address you will
find 3 link, and 2 of them are from Mikes Archives. In 6 months I
won't have the same email address, it will be out of some tropical
island or some such overseas server.

These are all prudent precautions. Why make it easy for anyone?

Jane MacRoss wrote:

LOL - last time someone sent me a picture of my place it was
either out of range OR the garbage bins were out the front!!!
 
Jane
 
http://www.eamega.com/HighFieldHealth

~The Highest Field of Energy Healing you now!~

- Original Message -
*From:* Rowena mailto:new...@internode.on.net
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, May 26, 2010 5:03 PM
*Subject:* Re: CSGoogle Launches Encrypted Search and also
Encrypted Gmail Option





Re: CSGoogle Launches Encrypted Search and also Encrypted Gmail Option

2010-05-26 Thread needling around
Thanks.  I'll look forward to  the list.
I too am very big on privacy.
PT
  - Original Message - 
  From: bodhisattva 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 10:16 AM
  Subject: Re: CSGoogle Launches Encrypted Search and also Encrypted Gmail 
Option


  I wrote a tutorial on some of it, I was going to put together an E_Book and 
never got it done. Orgonite has kept me very busy.  But I can give you a list 
of the basis.  On Google Street View, there is a tiny button at the bottom, you 
have to look really hard, and it says Report Image, then you report it, say 
your privacy is being impeded, and they remove it.  Usually they remove just 
your home, but you can still see your home from other angles, so you report 
those each separately, and they pull them too. Before you know it, half your 
street is pulled.

  For the others, I'll dig up my list.. Hope I can find it. I take privacy very 
seriously, electronic stuff is just a trojan horse for ever increasing 
totalitarianism.

  For example, one Trick they use is to get you to knowingly submit to your 
own data mining. Facebook(Fedbook) is a good example, it's really a front 
company for intel divisions to gather immense data on people.  But never join 
shoppers clubs, discount clubs, shopper cards, any of this, it's all datamined 
and shared.  Remember, nothing is free from corporate scums, if they give you 
10% off your purchase for signing up for Joe Smith Discount Club, what you 
are really doing is Opting-In to full monitoring of your purchases. Tivo for 
example, unless you call and demand an Opt-Out (All), they monitor every second 
of your TV usage, and then give this away to anyone they feel like. They don't 
tell you this, but I can show you how to find out from the Tivo screens if they 
are doing this - and they usually are.

  Big brother is here, bigger than ever before. I hope people stop willingly 
giving out their lives to these corrupt fools. Implants? Already here. Heck, 
most people don't need implants, they carry around an implant already. (Cell 
phone)

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TN5phfu3mE
  WARNING Facebook

  If you own a cell phone (and I do not), watch this video..
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ze3MOkXUaTI

  needling around wrote: 
How do we go about doing this???
Thanks.
PT
  - Original Message - 
  From: bodhisattva 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 9:32 AM
  Subject: Re: CSGoogle Launches Encrypted Search and also Encrypted Gmail 
Option


  I had all of the images of my place scrubbed from all of the engines.  I 
went through, 1 by 1, and had all of our personal data, phone numbers, and 
backgrounds scrubbed from all of the online services as well. Some of them 
require a notarized declaration to do this, others  you have to push through an 
attorney, but most are pretty easy.

  In my line of work, and my wifes, privacy is essential.  If you check my 
email headers, you'll find them blank. If you find my IP, it's not mine, it is 
mutated every few weeks to a different one (Millions of potentials), at a 
different geographical location. My connection is a 2048-Bit Encrypted tunnel 
and the key is re-keyed every few weeks. If you google search this email 
address you will find 3 link, and 2 of them are from Mikes Archives. In 6 
months I won't have the same email address, it will be out of some tropical 
island or some such overseas server.

  These are all prudent precautions. Why make it easy for anyone?

  Jane MacRoss wrote: 
LOL - last time someone sent me a picture of my place it was either out 
of range OR the garbage bins were out the front!!!

Jane 

http://www.eamega.com/HighFieldHealth
~The Highest Field of Energy Healing you now!~
  - Original Message - 
  From: Rowena 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 5:03 PM
  Subject: Re: CSGoogle Launches Encrypted Search and also Encrypted 
Gmail Option





Re: CSSous Vide Cooking

2010-05-26 Thread Garrick
I know about sous vide but have no reason to go to such lengths. Why not
just juice more especially in the warm months. Get a green power juicer that
really extracts stuff. I have one of those plus I made a press with an
automobile jack to press the pulp dry. If you use a champion juicer then
pressing the pulp dry is essential

I have eaten just watermelon for a few days at a time. But you have to take
that rind and juice it too. And press it dry afterward. Throw pulp into your
garden

You are very fortunate to have good seaweed near where you live. That's a
super concentrated health food same as juices and green juices are. Seaweed
can be delicious in a salad too. I love seaweed and can eat it right off the
stove after adding a bit of ginger juice ot cooking the seaweed with a bit
of onions and/or garlic

Seaweed cooked with greens is a great side dish for meat, fish, for anything

garrick







On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 12:02 AM, Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.comwrote:

 I expect that like most people, I want to eat healthy. When I was
 younger, I took various cooking classes and enjoyed planning and
 executing new and interesting gourmet type meals. As I got older I found
 that time would not allow for those type of meals and I used juicing as
 a way of getting vegetables in my diet combined with bulk type main
 courses that I could freeze and reheat when needed. Now I am at the
 stage where crock pot meals and casseroles are more my style. I find
 that when I try juicing, a lot of fruits and vegetables just rot before
 I get to juicing them.
 So now I depend a lot on powdered plants that I buy or make myself. I
 just blend them in a protein drink and feel that it makes for a pretty
 good diet. Better at least than fast food. I also use tincturing as a
 way to capture and preserve whole food nutrients and medicinal plant
 extracts.  As some know, I do make some silver citrate. Since it can be
 concentrated, I experiment with it as a preservative for some extracts,
 Mostly water based extracts. I also plan to look at using magnetic
 pulses as a preservative. Perhaps in conjunction with other
 preservatives.
 Some items such as giant brown kelp that I get locally, I extract the
 juice and powder it using a homemade low temp vacuum machine to try and
 preserve the enzymes. I don't do it often as my wife doesn't like the
 odor.
 Because of some posts by Renee, I may try my hand at essential oil
 extraction but I am not sure that will be cost effective but maybe in
 certain cases.
 But I still wish that I could get more raw fresh vegetables and fruits
 in my diet. Sous Vide cooking looks to be one way to cook and preserve
 meats and vegetables while retaining a large amount of their vitamins.
 Sous Vide is a cooking method that cooks food at low temperatures in
 vacuum sealed bags submerged in water. Temperatures are carefully
 controlled at temps below boiling. Cooking can take several days at the
 lower temperatures. Vitamins, even vitamin C, are mostly retained, even
 during storage in the sealed cooking bags. This may be the ultimate
 crock pot.
 The main drawback is that Sous Vide cookers are expensive. You can do it
 manually but it takes a great deal of your time.
 But I came across plans for a DIY Sous Vide cooker that you may even be
 able to simplify some more than it is. The plans use a microcontrolled
 heater but I think that one could devise a method using a simple digital
 thermometer that has a settable audio temp warning capability.  The
 audio warning could be used to halt the heater for a predetermined
 amount of time when the desired regulated temperature is achieved and
 maintain satisfactory temperature control. A digital thermometer of that
 type costs around $20.
 Sous Vide cooking does not reliably kill all pathogens and so food must
 still be refrigerated or frozen but the food will keep for an extended
 period of time without a significant loss of vitamins. Again, something
 such as silver citrate or magnetic pulsing might help to extend the
 period of preservation.

 For those who may be interested here are the plans for the DIY cooker:

 http://lifehacker.com/5545690/build-your-own-electronically+controlled-s
 ous+vide-cookerhttp://lifehacker.com/5545690/build-your-own-electronically+controlled-s%0Aous+vide-cooker

 Here is some misc information on Sous Vide cooking:

 A Practical Guide to Sous Vide Cooking
 http://amath.colorado.edu/~baldwind/sous-vide.htmlhttp://amath.colorado.edu/%7Ebaldwind/sous-vide.html

 Main Benefits of Sous Vide Cooking
 http://www.cookingsousvide.com/info/main-benefits-of-sous-vide-cooking

 Shades of Green
 http://www.popsci.com/diy/article/2009-01/shades-green

 What Sous Vide Can Achieve, at a Glance
 http://www.globalgourmet.com/food/cookbook/2009/under-pressure/sous-vide
 .htmlhttp://www.globalgourmet.com/food/cookbook/2009/under-pressure/sous-vide%0A.html



 A study on the nutrient retention of Sous Vide cooking:

 

RE: CSResipe Tincture of Cayenne is made with Ever-Clear Grain Alcohol

2010-05-26 Thread Renee
Yeah, might just be another version of the pequine, because it also is the
size of a BB.  Mine is red, his happens to be yellow I guess.  And yes--hot
enough that just a couple will do a whole pot of chili.  Whew!

Speaking of BBs, a couple hours south of here there is a place that makes
BBs.  I have not got to tour it, but I was told that what they do is drop
the molten metal from high up and on the way down it forms BBs.  There is a
very high tower there when I've driven past the place.  I need to go see
that one day--just sounds interesting.

Samala,
Renee

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Even if it ain't big, it believes it is and behaves that way...right?
The biggest little pepper in Texas.
 

CSOFF Topic Sous Vide Cooking

2010-05-26 Thread Saralou Pedigo
Don't know which web page...I found it looking for how to cook a lamb roast.
It happened to be a DIY page for cooking via a homemade Sous Vide.

As instructed, I tested my small cooler to see how quickly it lost heat and
plunged my bagged lamb into 150ºF water for 5-6 hours.  I know, the article
said rare lamb should be 135ºf or so but my husband doesn't eat rare and I
eat lamb only when it's given to me so haven't acquired the taste entirely.

Worked great.  Will use the method next nice beef I have as it was perfectly
pink and I never get beef quite right.

The downside is that with the DIY method, you're cooking your food in a
plastic baggie, likely not the best of health preserving methods.

Ben Alkire of Purdue University developed a distiller specifically designed
for essential oils.  You might try one of those...or at least give him a
phone call.  Dr. Rob Pappas may know of other home distillers...or at least
he could give you a tip or two on avoiding toxicity.

Saralou
//www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/people/bha.html
://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/people/bensresume.html
://www.nature-helps.com/agora/faq4.htm
//homedistiller.org/oils.htm
//essentialoils.org/

//freetheanimal.com/2010/01/rack-of-lamb-sous-vide.html
://www.seriouseats.com/2010/04/the-food-lab-perfect-rack-of-lamb.html
//www.dangourmet.com/2010/01/pork-loin-roast-sous-vide.html
//www.thethermalcook.com/?p=807
//www.helium.com/items/1826452-how-to-use-a-cooler-to-cook-meat-sous-vide
//
gizmodo.com/5461100/sousvide-supreme-review-how-to-cook-from-the-inside-out

On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 12:02 AM, Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.comwrote:


 Because of some posts by Renee, I may try my hand at essential oil
 extraction but I am not sure that will be cost effective but maybe in
 certain cases.
 .Sous Vide cooking looks to be one way to cook and preserve
 meats and vegetables while retaining a large amount of their vitamins.
 Sous Vide is a cooking method that cooks food at low temperatures in
 vacuum sealed bags submerged in water. Temperatures are carefully
 controlled at temps below boiling. Cooking can take several days at the
 lower temperatures. Vitamins, even vitamin C, are mostly retained, even
 during storage in the sealed cooking bags. This may be the ultimate
 crock pot.
 The main drawback is that Sous Vide cookers are expensive. You can do it
 manually but it takes a great deal of your time.
 But I came across plans for a DIY Sous Vide cooker that you may even be
 able to simplify some more than it is. The plans use a microcontrolled
 heater but I think that one could devise a method using a simple digital
 thermometer that has a settable audio temp warning capability.  The
 audio warning could be used to halt the heater for a predetermined
 amount of time when the desired regulated temperature is achieved and
 maintain satisfactory temperature control. A digital thermometer of that
 type costs around $20.
 Sous Vide cooking does not reliably kill all pathogens and so food must
 still be refrigerated or frozen but the food will keep for an extended
 period of time without a significant loss of vitamins. Again, something
 such as silver citrate or magnetic pulsing might help to extend the
 period of preservation.

 For those who may be interested here are the plans for the DIY cooker:

 http://lifehacker.com/5545690/build-your-own-electronically+controlled-s
 ous+vide-cookerhttp://lifehacker.com/5545690/build-your-own-electronically+controlled-s%0Aous+vide-cooker



 A study on the nutrient retention of Sous Vide cooking:

 http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/123342834/abstract?CRETRY=1S
 RETRY=0http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/123342834/abstract?CRETRY=1S%0ARETRY=0


  - Steve N



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Re: CSOFF Topic Sous Vide Cooking

2010-05-26 Thread needling around
Never having read about this style of cooking I was curious so I did a little 
research.  What I found reminded me of what used to be called 'terra cotta' 
cooking.  Special unglazed cookware was used at low temperatures for extended 
times.  I have seen this done with a flour/water paste seal so none of the 
juices are lost.  

An interesting topic.  Thanks for bringing it up.
PT

  - Original Message - 
  From: Saralou Pedigo 
  To: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com ; silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 12:20 PM
  Subject: CSOFF Topic Sous Vide Cooking


  Don't know which web page...I found it looking for how to cook a lamb roast. 
It happened to be a DIY page for cooking via a homemade Sous Vide.

  As instructed, I tested my small cooler to see how quickly it lost heat and 
plunged my bagged lamb into 150ºF water for 5-6 hours.  I know, the article 
said rare lamb should be 135ºf or so but my husband doesn't eat rare and I eat 
lamb only when it's given to me so haven't acquired the taste entirely.

  Worked great.  Will use the method next nice beef I have as it was perfectly 
pink and I never get beef quite right.

  The downside is that with the DIY method, you're cooking your food in a 
plastic baggie, likely not the best of health preserving methods.

  Ben Alkire of Purdue University developed a distiller specifically designed 
for essential oils.  You might try one of those...or at least give him a phone 
call.  Dr. Rob Pappas may know of other home distillers...or at least he could 
give you a tip or two on avoiding toxicity. 

  Saralou
  //www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/people/bha.html
  ://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/people/bensresume.html
  ://www.nature-helps.com/agora/faq4.htm
  //homedistiller.org/oils.htm
  //essentialoils.org/

  //freetheanimal.com/2010/01/rack-of-lamb-sous-vide.html
  ://www.seriouseats.com/2010/04/the-food-lab-perfect-rack-of-lamb.html
  //www.dangourmet.com/2010/01/pork-loin-roast-sous-vide.html
  //www.thethermalcook.com/?p=807
  //www.helium.com/items/1826452-how-to-use-a-cooler-to-cook-meat-sous-vide
  //gizmodo.com/5461100/sousvide-supreme-review-how-to-cook-from-the-inside-out


  On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 12:02 AM, Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com 
wrote:


Because of some posts by Renee, I may try my hand at essential oil
extraction but I am not sure that will be cost effective but maybe in
certain cases.
.Sous Vide cooking looks to be one way to cook and preserve
meats and vegetables while retaining a large amount of their vitamins.
Sous Vide is a cooking method that cooks food at low temperatures in
vacuum sealed bags submerged in water. Temperatures are carefully
controlled at temps below boiling. Cooking can take several days at the
lower temperatures. Vitamins, even vitamin C, are mostly retained, even
during storage in the sealed cooking bags. This may be the ultimate
crock pot.
The main drawback is that Sous Vide cookers are expensive. You can do it
manually but it takes a great deal of your time.
But I came across plans for a DIY Sous Vide cooker that you may even be
able to simplify some more than it is. The plans use a microcontrolled
heater but I think that one could devise a method using a simple digital
thermometer that has a settable audio temp warning capability.  The
audio warning could be used to halt the heater for a predetermined
amount of time when the desired regulated temperature is achieved and
maintain satisfactory temperature control. A digital thermometer of that
type costs around $20.
Sous Vide cooking does not reliably kill all pathogens and so food must
still be refrigerated or frozen but the food will keep for an extended
period of time without a significant loss of vitamins. Again, something
such as silver citrate or magnetic pulsing might help to extend the
period of preservation.

For those who may be interested here are the plans for the DIY cooker:

http://lifehacker.com/5545690/build-your-own-electronically+controlled-s
ous+vide-cooker



A study on the nutrient retention of Sous Vide cooking:

http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/123342834/abstract?CRETRY=1S
RETRY=0


 - Steve N



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RE: CSSous Vide Cooking

2010-05-26 Thread Norton, Steve
On weekdays I have no time to juice. I get up at 4 AM, go to work, get
home late, eat, do some chores and go to bed. Just too tired. I have
thought of taking a juicer to work but there are complications that make
that not altogether practical but perhaps not impossible. I have three
good centrifugal juicers. I did have a Champion juicer but I have
replaced it with an electric meat grinder and a homemade press. The
grinder/press is actually more handy than I had expected but is better
for larger jobs. I am looking at the sous vide as a way to make
nutritious meals that I can store and use as I need throughout the
weekdays. A fast food alternative if you will. Using silver citrate as
an added preservative, I may be able to take it with me unrefrigerated
(for the day). And it looks to have the cooking convenience of a crock
pot except that I will need to seal the food into individual portions
before cooking. But I can cook them all at the same time. It looks to be
a possibility. I will try it out before I invest much effort or cost
into it. 

In addition to a variety of giant brown seaweed, there is another type
of seaweed available but I have not identified it or used it in any way.
I currently juice the brown seaweed primarily for its fucoidan content.
I am indeed fortunate. I also buy a powdered seaweed that I add to my
protein drinks. Are you able to get fresh seaweed? I will have to try
cooking the seaweed; your descriptions make me hungry. What types of
seaweed do you prefer for cooking? Any good recipes?

Thanks,
Steve N


From: Garrick [mailto:zzen...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 7:39 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSSous Vide Cooking

I know about sous vide but have no reason to go to such lengths. Why not
just juice more especially in the warm months. Get a green power juicer
that really extracts stuff. I have one of those plus I made a press with
an automobile jack to press the pulp dry. If you use a champion juicer
then pressing the pulp dry is essential

I have eaten just watermelon for a few days at a time. But you have to
take that rind and juice it too. And press it dry afterward. Throw pulp
into your garden

You are very fortunate to have good seaweed near where you live. That's
a super concentrated health food same as juices and green juices are.
Seaweed can be delicious in a salad too. I love seaweed and can eat it
right off the stove after adding a bit of ginger juice ot cooking the
seaweed with a bit of onions and/or garlic

Seaweed cooked with greens is a great side dish for meat, fish, for
anything

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CSElectrolyte ratios and amounts

2010-05-26 Thread Dan Nave
If one was to mix up a balanced set of electrolytes to add to
distilled water for drinking and cooking uses containing, perhaps,
bicarbonate of soda, magnesium chloride, and potassium chloride, what
ratios would one use, and how much total, say, per gallon?

Any thoughts?

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Re: CSElectrolyte ratios and amounts

2010-05-26 Thread M. G. Devour
 If one was to mix up a balanced set of electrolytes to add to
 distilled water for drinking and cooking uses containing, perhaps,
 bicarbonate of soda, magnesium chloride, and potassium chloride, what
 ratios would one use, and how much total, say, per gallon?
 
 Any thoughts?

No answer to your question, Dan, but had to remark:

Sometimes it seems their's an angel next to me stamping his feet and 
shouting in my ear, Take the hint, dammit!!

In light of the post we had quoting an article from Mercola on fructose 
ill effects on weight and blood pressure, I looked at Emergen-C again 
to see what sweetener they use. Yup. Fructose. sigh

It's a nice product, but that's a drawback.

And today, you post your question...

Having a recipe for a home-made, healthy Gatorade replacement would be 
a very nice thing. Please share your results?

Be well!

Mike D.

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Re: CSElectrolyte ratios and amounts

2010-05-26 Thread Marshall Dudley

According to Gaterade they are phasing fructose out:

   *


 Does Gatorade include High Fructose Corn Syrup? Why or Why
 not?

 Currently, G2 does not contain HFCS, and the remaining products
 from The Gatorade Company will soon be following suit. We are
 changing the source of carbohydrate in Gatorade Thirst Quencher in
 2010 to a sucrose-dextrose blend, which still serves the important
 functional purpose of providing energy to fuel athletes’ working
 muscles during activity. What’s important to note is that from a
 scientific efficacy standpoint nothing will change, and our
 research shows the taste with the sucrose-dextrose blend is
 actually preferred by many athletes.

Marshall


Garrick wrote:
Why not mix the proper minerals and skip the sugars and fructose. 
Those minerals are the electrolytes that help colloidal silver go 
through the stomach intact. The fructose is not a factor. Gatorade has 
fructose because the athlete also wants some carbohydrate replacement 
to revive. Not that I like fructose but this is the reasoning


IOW make a Gatorade equivalent but omit all sugars.

garrick



On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 10:23 AM, M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com 
mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com wrote:


 If one was to mix up a balanced set of electrolytes to add to
 distilled water for drinking and cooking uses containing, perhaps,
 bicarbonate of soda, magnesium chloride, and potassium chloride,
what
 ratios would one use, and how much total, say, per gallon?

 Any thoughts?

No answer to your question, Dan, but had to remark:

Sometimes it seems their's an angel next to me stamping his feet and
shouting in my ear, Take the hint, dammit!!

In light of the post we had quoting an article from Mercola on
fructose
ill effects on weight and blood pressure, I looked at Emergen-C again
to see what sweetener they use. Yup. Fructose. sigh

It's a nice product, but that's a drawback.

And today, you post your question...

Having a recipe for a home-made, healthy Gatorade replacement would be
a very nice thing. Please share your results?

Be well!

Mike D.

[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
[mdev...@eskimo.com mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com ]
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Re: CSElectrolyte ratios and amounts

2010-05-26 Thread Garrick
Why not mix the proper minerals and skip the sugars and fructose. Those
minerals are the electrolytes that help colloidal silver go through the
stomach intact. The fructose is not a factor. Gatorade has fructose because
the athlete also wants some carbohydrate replacement to revive. Not that I
like fructose but this is the reasoning

IOW make a Gatorade equivalent but omit all sugars.

garrick



On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 10:23 AM, M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote:

  If one was to mix up a balanced set of electrolytes to add to
  distilled water for drinking and cooking uses containing, perhaps,
  bicarbonate of soda, magnesium chloride, and potassium chloride, what
  ratios would one use, and how much total, say, per gallon?
 
  Any thoughts?

 No answer to your question, Dan, but had to remark:

 Sometimes it seems their's an angel next to me stamping his feet and
 shouting in my ear, Take the hint, dammit!!

 In light of the post we had quoting an article from Mercola on fructose
 ill effects on weight and blood pressure, I looked at Emergen-C again
 to see what sweetener they use. Yup. Fructose. sigh

 It's a nice product, but that's a drawback.

 And today, you post your question...

 Having a recipe for a home-made, healthy Gatorade replacement would be
 a very nice thing. Please share your results?

 Be well!

 Mike D.

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Re: CSElectrolyte ratios and amounts

2010-05-26 Thread Garrick
Fine but for colloidal silver purposes who needs any sweetener?

On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.comwrote:

 According to Gaterade they are phasing fructose out:

   *


 Does Gatorade include High Fructose Corn Syrup? Why or Why
 not?

 Currently, G2 does not contain HFCS, and the remaining products
 from The Gatorade Company will soon be following suit. We are
 changing the source of carbohydrate in Gatorade Thirst Quencher in
 2010 to a sucrose-dextrose blend, which still serves the important
 functional purpose of providing energy to fuel athletes’ working
 muscles during activity. What’s important to note is that from a
 scientific efficacy standpoint nothing will change, and our
 research shows the taste with the sucrose-dextrose blend is
 actually preferred by many athletes.

 Marshall





Re: CSElectrolyte ratios and amounts

2010-05-26 Thread Frank
Hi Garrick, You mention that those minerals are the electrolytes that help 
colloidal silver go through the stomach intact I am very interested in this 
issue. Can you help me in finding out a way to corroborate that statement?
I would appreciate it
Frank  


From: Garrick 
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 11:34 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: Re: CSElectrolyte ratios and amounts


Why not mix the proper minerals and skip the sugars and fructose. Those 
minerals are the electrolytes that help colloidal silver go through the stomach 
intact. The fructose is not a factor. Gatorade has fructose because the athlete 
also wants some carbohydrate replacement to revive. Not that I like fructose 
but this is the reasoning

IOW make a Gatorade equivalent but omit all sugars.

garrick




On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 10:23 AM, M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote:

   If one was to mix up a balanced set of electrolytes to add to
   distilled water for drinking and cooking uses containing, perhaps,
   bicarbonate of soda, magnesium chloride, and potassium chloride, what
   ratios would one use, and how much total, say, per gallon?
  
   Any thoughts?


  No answer to your question, Dan, but had to remark:

  Sometimes it seems their's an angel next to me stamping his feet and
  shouting in my ear, Take the hint, dammit!!

  In light of the post we had quoting an article from Mercola on fructose
  ill effects on weight and blood pressure, I looked at Emergen-C again
  to see what sweetener they use. Yup. Fructose. sigh

  It's a nice product, but that's a drawback.

  And today, you post your question...

  Having a recipe for a home-made, healthy Gatorade replacement would be
  a very nice thing. Please share your results?

  Be well!

  Mike D.

  [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
  [mdev...@eskimo.com]
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RE: CSSous Vide Cooking

2010-05-26 Thread Renee
Hi Steve.  There is a handy little device called a pump-n-seal.  $20 I think
 somewhere in there.

This device, which is nothing more than a hand vacuum pump, will suck all
the air/oxygen out of a container.  This keeps juices from turning brown and
from loosing nutrition.

You can Google for it.

What you do is either save jars that have been vacuumed sealed already, that
when you look at the lids there is a white vinyl or plastic ring on the
inside.  This makes a pressure seal.  Or you can buy canning jars.  Those
lids will work perfectly.

The kit for the pump comes with a thumbtack (:-) that you poke a hole into
the jar lid.  Then you take one of the little yellow reusable tabs they give
you and place the black spot over the hole.  Fill with your juice, veggies,
nuts, whatever, place the pump over the tab and start pumping.  When it
becomes difficult to pump (or the liquid reaches the top) stop pumping. 
Your jar is now sealed.  Refrigeration is best for juices, but so long as
you drink them up that day non-refrigeration should be ok too.  Without air,
it's hard for things to spoil, but remember you won't be able to get every
air molecule out--so use it up in a day if not refrigerated.

Then to open the jar you must lift one corner of the yellow tab.  This
allows air to flow back into the jar, releasing the vacuum so that you can
unscrew the jar.  Pretty handy.  

The pump can also be used with regular ziplock bags, but it's a bit messy. 
To make a tight seal there you have to get a qtip or your finger and run a
small line of some type of oil inside the zip part.  Fill the bag first, run
the line of oil, insert the tube for the pump into a corner of the bag, zip
up to the pump tube, then pinch that shut as you pump.  When all the air is
out quickly pull the tube out and zip it closed.  The oil keeps the vacuum
in place.  

But I have purchased one of those little battery vacuums that come with zip
lock bags.  They work really good too, so long as you don't vacuum it too
hard, like trying to suck every little gasp of air out. :-)

samala,
Renee
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On weekdays I have no time to juice. I get up at 4 AM, go to work, get
home late, eat, do some chores and go to bed. Just too tired. I have
thought of taking a juicer to work but there are complications that make
that not altogether practical but perhaps not impossible. 

Re: CSGoogle Launches Encrypted Search and also Encrypted Gmail Option

2010-05-26 Thread Pat

Google is not too accurate.  They keep showing a house down the road as our 
house address.  I correct it, but then it happens again.  I guess it's good in 
case someone's looking for me.  lol  Our picture shows hubby on the lawnmower 
out front.  Wonder how many people have seen a car in the driveway which 
shouldn't be there (the wife's boyfriend?  hahaha)  

When we were driving the FedEx truck, the live view maps were wonderful.  We 
could check out the area before going in.  You don't want to end up in tight 
spaces or wrong places in a large truck.

Pat






  


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Re: CSElectrolyte ratios and amounts

2010-05-26 Thread Garrick
Hi
Others know much more and you can find stuff in archives via a search for
Gatorade

The theory goes that consuming CS mixed with Gatorade allows the CS to go
straight through stomach without the silver reacting and turning into less
bio-available silver chloride. This is why some say swish CS in your mouth
for 10 minutes and absorb it sub-lingually and though mouth tissues. This
way it enters body intact.

They say the minerals/electrolytes in Gatorade allow this trick. Few here
want to guzzle Gatorade so the dilemma is how to duplicate Gatorade minus
the fructose
This is the theory and I hope I got it right

garrick



On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 6:09 PM, Frank frankcuns-r...@comcast.net wrote:

  Hi Garrick, You mention that those minerals are the electrolytes that
 help colloidal silver go through the stomach intact I am very interested in
 this issue. Can you help me in finding out a way to corroborate that
 statement?
 I would appreciate it
 Frank

  *From:* Garrick zzen...@gmail.com
 *Sent:* Wednesday, May 26, 2010 11:34 AM
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Subject:* Re: CSElectrolyte ratios and amounts

 Why not mix the proper minerals and skip the sugars and fructose. Those
 minerals are the electrolytes that help colloidal silver go through the
 stomach intact. The fructose is not a factor. Gatorade has fructose because
 the athlete also wants some carbohydrate replacement to revive. Not that I
 like fructose but this is the reasoning

 IOW make a Gatorade equivalent but omit all sugars.

 garrick







RE: CSElectrolyte ratios and amounts

2010-05-26 Thread Nenah Sylver
[garrick] The theory goes that consuming CS mixed with Gatorade allows the
CS to go straight through stomach without the silver reacting and turning
into less bio-available silver chloride. This is why some say swish CS in
your mouth for 10 minutes and absorb it sub-lingually and though mouth
tissues. This way it enters body intact.

They say the minerals/electrolytes in Gatorade allow this trick. Few here
want to guzzle Gatorade so the dilemma is how to duplicate Gatorade minus
the fructose
This is the theory and I hope I got it right



Thanks for the explanation, Garrick.

 

There are two electrolyte formulas without any sugars that I like a lot. One
is the Fulvic Acid formula from Vital Earth. The other is Sea Minerals. You
can Google them.

 

Nenah
 

Nenah Sylver, PhD

electromedicine specialist and author

The Rife Handbook of Frequency Therapy (2009)

 The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy (2004)

 http://www.nenahsylver.com www.nenahsylver.com 



RE: CSElectrolyte ratios and amounts

2010-05-26 Thread Norton, Steve
Marshall's most current theory:

 

http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/msg129323.html

 

Doing some further analysis of the ingredients in gatorade I have
discovered another mechanism, one which is likely the primary one for
this increased absorption. I just became aware that the citrate ion (
gateraid contains citric acid ) will replace the chloride ion in
metallic salts. This means that when you mix CS with gaterade the silver
ions do not combine with the chloride ions, but the citrate ions in the
citric acid. Thus when you drink it, no low solubility silver chloride
ions are formed, and they do not form in the stomach either . The silver
citrate then is free to quickly move into the blood stream.

 

Also:

http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/msg129472.html

 

-  Steve N

 

From: Nenah Sylver [mailto:nenahsyl...@cox.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 3:02 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSElectrolyte ratios and amounts

 

[garrick] The theory goes that consuming CS mixed with Gatorade allows
the CS to go straight through stomach without the silver reacting and
turning into less bio-available silver chloride. This is why some say
swish CS in your mouth for 10 minutes and absorb it sub-lingually and
though mouth tissues. This way it enters body intact.

They say the minerals/electrolytes in Gatorade allow this trick. Few
here want to guzzle Gatorade so the dilemma is how to duplicate Gatorade
minus the fructose
This is the theory and I hope I got it right



Thanks for the explanation, Garrick.

 

There are two electrolyte formulas without any sugars that I like a lot.
One is the Fulvic Acid formula from Vital Earth. The other is Sea
Minerals. You can Google them.

 

Nenah
 

Nenah Sylver, PhD

electromedicine specialist and author

The Rife Handbook of Frequency Therapy (2009)

 The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy (2004)

www.nenahsylver.com http://www.nenahsylver.com  



CSSilver Archives

2010-05-26 Thread Norton, Steve
Mike,
I have to say that the more I use the archives the more I love them!
Until I reread your initial notice on how to use the archives, I was
primarily using Google Advanced Search to search the archives. But I now
use the Archive Advanced Search capability and I am very happy with it.
Thanks!
Steve N


Re: CSElectrolyte ratios and amounts

2010-05-26 Thread Garrick
It would be great if Marshall or anyone could give us a calculationHow
much citric acid to add to say 4oz of 10uS colloidal silver. Obviously
citric acid is very common. I have some in my refrigerator. Citric acid is
cheap. I got mine on ebay.

One test would be when you are sick with a cold or flu. Try the citric/CS
and see what it does

garrick




On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 6:29 PM, Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.comwrote:

  Marshall’s most current theory:



 http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/msg129323.html



 “Doing some further analysis of the ingredients in gatorade I have
 discovered another mechanism, one which is likely the primary one for this
 increased absorption. I just became aware that the citrate ion ( gateraid
 contains citric acid ) will replace the chloride ion in metallic salts. This
 means that when you mix CS with gaterade the silver ions do not combine with
 the chloride ions, but the citrate ions in the citric acid. Thus when you
 drink it, no low solubility silver chloride ions are formed, and they do not
 form in the stomach either . The silver citrate then is free to quickly
 move into the blood stream.”



 Also:

 http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/msg129472.html



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CSJuvenile diabetes

2010-05-26 Thread psteel5
Hi guys
 
 We are rushing to the emergincy room at childrens hospital in boston. My 4yr 
old has been sick the last few days. Brought him to his dr and they ran the 
diabetes test and sure enough he has it
 
 Looking for any info anyone has
 
 Thx all 

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CSHarold and L. Glutathione

2010-05-26 Thread Shirley Reed
  Harold, please post your results.  Also, have you done any ALA?  If so, what 
were your results?  What were your good results with the Vit. C?  tia pj


  


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RE: CSSous Vide Cooking

2010-05-26 Thread Norton, Steve
Renee and PT,
Thanks for your comments. Maybe juicing is still a viable option. I had 
forgotten about the pump-n-seal; thanks for suggesting it.
- Steve N

From: Renee [mailto:gaiac...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 12:24 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSSous Vide Cooking

Hi Steve.  There is a handy little device called a pump-n-seal.  $20 I think, 
somewhere in there.
 
This device, which is nothing more than a hand vacuum pump, will suck all the 
air/oxygen out of a container.  This keeps juices from turning brown and from 
loosing nutrition.
 
You can Google for it.
 
What you do is either save jars that have been vacuumed sealed already, that 
when you look at the lids there is a white vinyl or plastic ring on the 
inside.  This makes a pressure seal.  Or you can buy canning jars.  Those lids 
will work perfectly.
 
The kit for the pump comes with a thumbtack (:-) that you poke a hole into the 
jar lid.  Then you take one of the little yellow reusable tabs they give you 
and place the black spot over the hole.  Fill with your juice, veggies, nuts, 
whatever, place the pump over the tab and start pumping.  When it becomes 
difficult to pump (or the liquid reaches the top) stop pumping.  Your jar is 
now sealed.  Refrigeration is best for juices, but so long as you drink them up 
that day non-refrigeration should be ok too.  Without air, it's hard for things 
to spoil, but remember you won't be able to get every air molecule out--so use 
it up in a day if not refrigerated.
 
Then to open the jar you must lift one corner of the yellow tab.  This allows 
air to flow back into the jar, releasing the vacuum so that you can unscrew the 
jar.  Pretty handy.  
 
The pump can also be used with regular ziplock bags, but it's a bit messy.  To 
make a tight seal there you have to get a qtip or your finger and run a small 
line of some type of oil inside the zip part.  Fill the bag first, run the line 
of oil, insert the tube for the pump into a corner of the bag, zip up to the 
pump tube, then pinch that shut as you pump.  When all the air is out quickly 
pull the tube out and zip it closed.  The oil keeps the vacuum in place.  
 
But I have purchased one of those little battery vacuums that come with zip 
lock bags.  They work really good too, so long as you don't vacuum it too hard, 
like trying to suck every little gasp of air out. :-)
 
samala,
Renee


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Blood GLucose Levels was // Re: CSTincture of Cayenne

2010-05-26 Thread Jane MacRoss
After several years I am finally learning to take my husband's BGL when he is 
at all odd or unwell invariably his BGL is way out of normal range - HI 
on a glucometer does not mean Hello and then the insulin begins - hourly 
until I see a normal range appearing - anything under 20mmol/L is gratefully 
received (non US scale is different) our normal is between 4 - 7 mmol/L


Jane 

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  - Original Message - 
  From: ted mozell 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 1:34 AM
  Subject: Re: CSTincture of Cayenne


  Bob ,   Have you used this protocol i would be very interested in 
experimenting with this i have some stomach issues so if i could use use a 
patch that would great  i would be using this for circulation problems  . I 
have used capsaicin 
  once on a sore ankle and put my boot on over it by the time i got to work and 
was climbing up the ladder i had to get down and take my boot off and just wear 
a sock for the rest of the day. Pat i hope you are better .  Thanks Ted 

  On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 5:55 PM, Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net wrote:

Renee,

  Actually studies show that an external patch of capsaicin can also 
stop a heart attack.  It gets absorbed very quickly and by bypassing the mouth 
the hot sensation is eliminated.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Renee 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 5:04 PM
  Subject: Re: CSTincture of Cayenne


Pat--cayenne tincture is perfect for real heart attacks and 
strokes.  It will absolutely stop them--but you need far more than 2 or 3 
drops!  It takes 2 or 3 DROPPERS full to stop them.  Or a glass of water with a 
tablespoon of hot pepper powder. Sometimes even 2 of those, depending on the 
results.  And yes--it's hot--but that's exactly what you need.  It blows open 
the arteries so that the blood can flow.  Now you know why. :-)

A funny side story--my father was like me in that he didn't like 
hot foods or spices.  We never eat them.  Now, Dad was diabetic for over 20 
years and never had a problem, in that his medicine kept it under control.  But 
then at 76 things started spiraling down for him, many things going on at once. 
 He actually did take a heart attack and had a stent put in.

So I gave Mom and bottle of my home made hot pepper tincture to 
have on hand just in case.  

Mom and I had gone shopping and when we walked back into her house, 
Dad was in his chair, but totally out of it.  No response.  I thought he'd had 
another heart attack and had Mom run and get the tincture.

I opened Dad's mouth and put a dropper in.  Gave it a second.  No 
response.  I opened up his mouth again and gave another dropper.  No response.  
I opened his mouth a third time to put a dropper full in and his hand slowly 
raised up, in a stop gesture.  So I didn't put any more in.

The ambulance got there and rushed him to ER.  We followed.  It 
turned out that instead of a heart attack, he'd gone into a diabetic coma.

They got him straightened out, and sent him home the next day.  

What was funny about this?--Well, when Dad got home he very 
hoarsely whispered they must have scratched my throat when they put something 
down it, because it hurts.  

Lolol  I hadn't the courage to tell him they didn't put a thing 
down his throat, that had been my hot pepper tincture!  He was hoarse for 3 
days.  :-)

Samala,
Renee

---Original Message---



Well, I'm still alive today, so I guess last night's event was 
caused by stomach rather than heart. 

My advicedon't ever use tincture of cayenne straight!
   
  
   





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RE: CSElectrolyte ratios and amounts

2010-05-26 Thread Norton, Steve
The molecular weight of silver is 107.9.

The molecular weight of citric acid is 192.1.

Silver citrate is basically one molecule of citric acid bonded to three
silver ions and has a molecular weight of 512.7.

 

So, if you have 10 ppm ionic silver you would need an amount of citric
acid equal to 40 ppm  in the same volume of solution. In other words, an
amount smaller than you can measure for all practical purposes.

 

-  Steve N

 

 

From: Garrick [mailto:zzen...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 4:27 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSElectrolyte ratios and amounts

 


It would be great if Marshall or anyone could give us a
calculationHow much citric acid to add to say 4oz of 10uS colloidal
silver. Obviously citric acid is very common. I have some in my
refrigerator. Citric acid is cheap. I got mine on ebay.

One test would be when you are sick with a cold or flu. Try the
citric/CS and see what it does

garrick





On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 6:29 PM, Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com
wrote:

Marshall's most current theory:

 

http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/msg129323.html

 

Doing some further analysis of the ingredients in gatorade I have
discovered another mechanism, one which is likely the primary one for
this increased absorption. I just became aware that the citrate ion (
gateraid contains citric acid ) will replace the chloride ion in
metallic salts. This means that when you mix CS with gaterade the silver
ions do not combine with the chloride ions, but the citrate ions in the
citric acid. Thus when you drink it, no low solubility silver chloride
ions are formed, and they do not form in the stomach either . The silver
citrate then is free to quickly move into the blood stream.

 

Also:

http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/msg129472.html

 

-  

 



RE: CSElectrolyte ratios and amounts

2010-05-26 Thread Norton, Steve
 

I meant to add that for 1 liter of water, 40 ppm is 40 mg. For 4 ounces
of water that would be 4.8 mg.

-  Steve N

 

From: Norton, Steve [mailto:stephen.nor...@ngc.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 6:27 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSElectrolyte ratios and amounts

 

The molecular weight of silver is 107.9.

The molecular weight of citric acid is 192.1.

Silver citrate is basically one molecule of citric acid bonded to three
silver ions and has a molecular weight of 512.7.

 

So, if you have 10 ppm ionic silver you would need an amount of citric
acid equal to 40 ppm  in the same volume of solution. In other words, an
amount smaller than you can measure for all practical purposes.

 

-  Steve N

 

 

From: Garrick [mailto:zzen...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 4:27 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSElectrolyte ratios and amounts

 


It would be great if Marshall or anyone could give us a
calculationHow much citric acid to add to say 4oz of 10uS colloidal
silver. Obviously citric acid is very common. I have some in my
refrigerator. Citric acid is cheap. I got mine on ebay.

One test would be when you are sick with a cold or flu. Try the
citric/CS and see what it does

garrick





CSCS: Liposomal ,CS?,Glutathione ? Vit .C

2010-05-26 Thread Harold MacDonald
There was earlier talk re Liposomal CS/EIS making, any body try it yet? I plan 
on trying soon.
I just took delivery of L-Glutathione powder  yesterday,but am hoping some-one 
who has Lipo-ed it will advise re any problems.
I have just made my third batch of Liposomal Vit. C [sodium ascorbate] since 
getting the jewelry cleaner.
Having taken the two previous batches, I do see an increase in well-being.I had 
previously been using a hand blender,with  so-so success.
Definitely, the jewelry cleaner is the way to go.The solution is amazingly 
delicious,and I can see why Brooks said it was difficult to keep any on hand.
I found that I had to put the Lecithin granules in the water and let sit for a 
fair length of time to let it dissolve completely.

Best to all

Harold

CSJuvenile diabetes

2010-05-26 Thread Karen
I'm so sorry for you.  My daughter was diagnosed 2 years ago at age 12.  
 
I recommend you join the forum at ChildrenWithDiabetes.com.  They helped me 
immensely.  And if there is anything I can answer I would love to help.
 
Type I is an autoimmune reaction made possible by genetic makeup and triggered 
by something in the environment - at least that is the current thought.  I have 
found nothing that will straighten out those rouge T-cells so they stop 
attacking the pancreatic beta cells.  
 
There is one or two trials being done on newly diagnosed individuals which 
sound promising and when you have the time look up the research that is being 
done by Dr. Denise Faustman.
 
Best of luck to you.
 
Karen
 
 
 
Wednesday, May 26, 2010 5:41 PM



From: 

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To: 
silver-list@eskimo.com


Hi guys

We are rushing to the emergincy room at childrens hospital in boston. My 4yr 
old has been sick the last few days. Brought him to his dr and they ran the 
diabetes test and sure enough he has it

Looking for any info anyone has

Thx all 

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry



  

Re: CSElectrolyte ratios and amounts

2010-05-26 Thread poast
Hello Dan,

While I don't know the exact ratio of the various electrolytes to use, I
would suggest using a conductivity meter to adjust amounts.  Pick up some
mineral water and measure its conductivity.  Then add your electrolytes
and try to come close to matching the conductivity of the mineral water.

My son was wanting to drink purified water.  We started with distilled water
and simply added some sea salt to it.  I adjusted the amount to match the
conductivity of our tap water.  While sea salt has some electrolyte
properties, I think you are looking for something a little stronger.
However you should get the idea behind this.

Tom




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From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 10:00 AM
Subject: CSElectrolyte ratios and amounts


 If one was to mix up a balanced set of electrolytes to add to
 distilled water for drinking and cooking uses containing, perhaps,
 bicarbonate of soda, magnesium chloride, and potassium chloride, what
 ratios would one use, and how much total, say, per gallon?

 Any thoughts?

 Dan


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Re: CSElectrolyte ratios and amounts

2010-05-26 Thread Garrick
Thanks much! So a dot of citric acid would do it. One pin head's worth.

Do you think all the silver ions would become silver citrate? Would they all
find the citric acid and mate with it. I think the Gatorade formula was more
Gatorade than colloidal silver. Mix and drink. Here Marshall says it is 2 to
1 Gatorade to CS http://silver-lightning.com/theory.html#Gator   This is
much more citric acid than what you say...Citric acid overkill maybe

garrick





On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 9:26 PM, Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.comwrote:

  The molecular weight of silver is 107.9.

 The molecular weight of citric acid is 192.1.

 Silver citrate is basically one molecule of citric acid bonded to three
 silver ions and has a molecular weight of 512.7.



 So, if you have 10 ppm ionic silver you would need an amount of citric acid
 equal to 40 ppm  in the same volume of solution. In other words, an amount
 smaller than you can measure for all practical purposes.



 -  Steve N





 *From:* Garrick [mailto:zzen...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, May 26, 2010 4:27 PM

 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Subject:* Re: CSElectrolyte ratios and amounts




 It would be great if Marshall or anyone could give us a calculationHow
 much citric acid to add to say 4oz of 10uS colloidal silver. Obviously
 citric acid is very common. I have some in my refrigerator. Citric acid is
 cheap. I got mine on ebay.

 One test would be when you are sick with a cold or flu. Try the citric/CS
 and see what it does

 garrick



  On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 6:29 PM, Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com
 wrote:

 Marshall’s most current theory:



 http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/msg129323.html



 “Doing some further analysis of the ingredients in gatorade I have
 discovered another mechanism, one which is likely the primary one for this
 increased absorption. I just became aware that the citrate ion ( gateraid
 contains citric acid ) will replace the chloride ion in metallic salts. This
 means that when you mix CS with gaterade the silver ions do not combine with
 the chloride ions, but the citrate ions in the citric acid. Thus when you
 drink it, no low solubility silver chloride ions are formed, and they do not
 form in the stomach either . The silver citrate then is free to quickly
 move into the blood stream.”



 Also:

 http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/msg129472.html



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Re: CSGooglePower

2010-05-26 Thread Rowena



http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/10161393.stm
Google has not handed over sensitive data requested by German 
authorities, despite a deadline of 26 May. Dr Johannes Caspar, the 
Information Commissioner for Hamburg, Germany, told BBC News that there 
was no sign of the requested hard disk The firm has until midnight to 
hand over data harvested by its Street View cars from private wi-fi 
networks.


We've just bought Ashampoo's latest burning studio, and I wondered where 
in Oldenburg, Germany it was sited. I only had the director's names, so 
on Google Earth I entered Oldenburg and one name. Before I could blink 
it brought up four Ashampoo connected sites, including the main one. I 
noticed there were no streetview links anywhere in Germany, and wondered 
why.


I googled germany google street view and got a number of interesting 
sites to visit. The wi-fi trick had been going on there too, and they 
had been downloading information from unsecured wireless networks for years.


http://www.newstatesman.com/digital/2010/05/street-view-google-cars-data 
'However, the disclosure that Google's cars had also recorded 
communications sent over unsecured wireless networks in people's homes 
has alarmed privacy advocates and regulatory authorities. Although the 
company argued it has collected only the same data that was publicly 
available to anyone in the street with a Wi-Fi device, authorities have 
termed the explanation highly unusual and called for a detailed probe.'


http://tech.blorge.com/Structure:%20/2010/05/16/german-officials-angered-by-google-street-view-data-collection/ 
So everything was a simple oversight, a software error! …The data was 
collected and stored against the will of the project’s managers and 
other managers at Google. If we follow this logic further, this means: 
The software was installed and used without being properly tested 
beforehand. Billions of bits of data were mistakenly collected, without 
anyone in Google noticing it, including Google’s own internal data 
protection managers, who two weeks ago were defending to us the 
company’s internal data protection practices. . . . If a user decides to 
leave their network unencrypted, then just about anyone could get some 
data from the wireless network. This is exactly why Wi-Fi router 
manufacturers have been urging users to put encryption on their devices. 
Leaving a wireless network unencrypted means that you are broadcasting 
your Wi-Fi connection to anyone in the vicinity.'


http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2010/02/23/google-rejects-german-street-view-concerns 
By moving ahead, Google may be risking a government-backed lawsuit - or 
even new legislation - and a victory or loss could have a huge effect on 
how other countries respond to Street View in the future.


http://www.pcworld.com/article/190583/google_hopes_to_launch_german_street_view_this_year.html 
Germans can write to Google to ask to have their house excluded from the 
Street View database. We have received letters from over 1,000 people 
since June 2009, Wagner said. ... German data protection authorities 
have only asked for an opt-out process, without a way for people to opt 
back in to having their homes displayed in Street View, said Jones. If 
you buy a house, and the previous owner opted out, then your house will 
be blurry forever, he said.


http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9133309/Google_Street_View_hits_privacy_gridlock_in_Germany

Rowena






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CSProblems with advanced search of archives

2010-05-26 Thread Norton, Steve
Mike,
I am having a problem when I am doing an advanced search of the
archives. When I do an advanced search, I am not able to advance beyond
the first page. For example:

http://www.mail-archive.com/search?a=1l=silver-l...@eskimo.comhaswords
=Liposomal+Glutathionefrom=notwords=subject=datewithin=6mdate=8%2F2
6%2F09order=datenewestsearch=Search

But when I navigate to the second page I get the message: No matches
were found for 
http://www.mail-archive.com/search?q=l=silver-l...@eskimo.como=datenew
eststart=10

What am I doing wrong?

Thanks,
  Steve N



RE: CSElectrolyte ratios and amounts

2010-05-26 Thread Norton, Steve
Extra citric acid doesn't hurt. In fact it is necessary if you are going to 
make high ppm silver citrate.
- Steve N

From: Garrick [mailto:zzen...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 7:51 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSElectrolyte ratios and amounts

Thanks much! So a dot of citric acid would do it. One pin head's worth. 

Do you think all the silver ions would become silver citrate? Would they all 
find the citric acid and mate with it. I think the Gatorade formula was more 
Gatorade than colloidal silver. Mix and drink. Here Marshall says it is 2 to 1 
Gatorade to CS   This is much more citric acid than what you say...Citric acid 
overkill maybe

garrick




On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 9:26 PM, Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com wrote:
The molecular weight of silver is 107.9.
The molecular weight of citric acid is 192.1.
Silver citrate is basically one molecule of citric acid bonded to three silver 
ions and has a molecular weight of 512.7.
 
So, if you have 10 ppm ionic silver you would need an amount of citric acid 
equal to 40 ppm  in the same volume of solution. In other words, an amount 
smaller than you can measure for all practical purposes.
 
-  Steve N
 
 
From: Garrick [mailto:zzen...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 4:27 PM

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSElectrolyte ratios and amounts
 

It would be great if Marshall or anyone could give us a calculationHow much 
citric acid to add to say 4oz of 10uS colloidal silver. Obviously citric acid 
is very common. I have some in my refrigerator. Citric acid is cheap. I got 
mine on ebay.

One test would be when you are sick with a cold or flu. Try the citric/CS and 
see what it does

garrick


On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 6:29 PM, Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com wrote:
Marshall's most current theory:
 
http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/msg129323.html
 
Doing some further analysis of the ingredients in gatorade I have discovered 
another mechanism, one which is likely the primary one for this increased 
absorption. I just became aware that the citrate ion ( gateraid contains citric 
acid ) will replace the chloride ion in metallic salts. This means that when 
you mix CS with gaterade the silver ions do not combine with the chloride ions, 
but the citrate ions in the citric acid. Thus when you drink it, no low 
solubility silver chloride ions are formed, and they do not form in the stomach 
either . The silver citrate then is free to quickly move into the blood stream.
 
Also:
http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/msg129472.html
 


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Re: CSJuvenile diabetes

2010-05-26 Thread Smitty
 Hi guys

We are rushing to the emergincy room at childrens hospital
in boston. My 4yr old has been sick the last few days.
Brought him to his dr and they ran the diabetes test
and sure enough he has it. . .

   Looking for any info anyone has. . . .

You might look here =

http://tinyurl.com/35uap9m

Smitty


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Re: CSJuvenile diabetes

2010-05-26 Thread Shar
Someone wrote this, please investigate it if applicable to your child:

http://www.holisticonline.com/remedies/diabetes/diabetes_herbs.htm

http://www.ayurvediccure.com/diabetes.htm



There are two substances that have been shown in scientific studies to cure
type 1 diabetes if it is caught early enough. These two substances are
niacinamide and vitamin E. Exactly how soon the diabetes has to be caught is
not known. Generally, 80% of the beta cells are dead before the diabetes is
caught, so anyone who has been taking insulin for less than about a year
should try these two substances immediately.



There were two scientific studies on niacinamide and Type 1 diabetes. In one
study, 90% of the newly diagnosed diabetic patients were cured of their
diabetes with niacinamide. In another study, 50% of the newly diagnosed
diabetic patients were cured of their diabetes with niacinamide. What was
the difference in the studies?

The difference was that the newly diagnosed patients in one study (the 90%
cure) were not allowed to partake of any dairy products. In the other study
the patients were allowed to partake of dairy products.

The results of these two studies makes it ABSOLUTELY CLEAR that the patient
must stop taking every possible form of dairy products immediately.

Read more here

http://www.cancertutor.com/Diabetes/Diabetes_Type_I.htm


On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 6:18 PM, Smitty papad...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi guys

 We are rushing to the emergincy room at childrens hospital
 in boston. My 4yr old has been sick the last few days.
 Brought him to his dr and they ran the diabetes test
 and sure enough he has it. . .
 
Looking for any info anyone has. . . .