Re: CSBeck blood purifier

2012-10-11 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
I cannot see this.  My Puppy has reverse polarity and I don¹t get any dark
oxides forming‹quite the reverse in fact.  dee



From: D B mothman...@gmail.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 23:31:17 +0100
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier
Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 15:31:18 -0700

The idea of reversing polarity during the manufacturing process is a very
bad idea and obvious design flaw. Far better to select one electrode, and
make a mark at the top with a pair of pliers, then simply connect it to
positive one run , then negative the next, keeping note of dates you use the
marked electrode with neg or pos current. 

The reason for this is that you will accrue a large amount of dark oxides
which should not be disturbed during manufacturing. If they get into the sol
(colloid) then the ions coming of the electrode will then stick
to those chunks and your sol will bottom out much quicker, the particles
also being less therapeutically beneficial as they will be getting so large
to the point where they will just not be able to pass inside cell tissue and
kill pathogens, also creating more possibility
of argyria skin discolouration, though that can be lessened or even removed
with selenium supplementation to chelate it from the skin I read. The
regular changing of polarity will just push a load of muck into the
distilled water and act as a magnet for the smaller groups of ions to stick
to. 

With best wishes, Dave




Re: CSDMSO Question

2012-10-11 Thread Jane MacRoss
By all means use the DMSO (I seriously don't think there is much difference 
between the brands)  but also try warm/hot water with fresh lemon juice in the 
morning - a litre if possible  before food - and drink any cherry juice at all 
for the gout. 

Jane


  From: Paul Steel 


  I have some lower back pain and might have a little gout as well.

  Was think about spraying some 99.9% pure DMSO on both areas and then I saw 
this 70% DMSO Gel
  http://www.ihealthtree.com/dmso-gel-70-30-unfrag-plastic-4oz.html

  Anyone know if this would be as effected and safe to use instead??


Re: CSDMSO Question

2012-10-11 Thread Paul Steel
Thanks Jane

Will try this...Like right now :)


 
Paul Steel
h 508.520.6905
c 508.922.0519
The harder you work the luckier you get!

 



 From: Jane MacRoss highfie...@internode.on.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 7:58 AM
Subject: Re: CSDMSO Question
 

 
By all means use the DMSO (I seriously 
don't think there is much difference between the brands)  but also try 
warm/hot water with fresh lemon juice in the morning - a litre if possible 
 before food - and drink any cherry juice at all for the gout. 
 
Jane
 
 
From: Paul Steel 


I  have some lower back pain and might have a little gout as well.

Was 
  think about spraying some 99.9% pure DMSO on both areas and then I saw this 
  70% DMSO Gel
http://www.ihealthtree.com/dmso-gel-70-30-unfrag-plastic-4oz.html

Anyone 
  know if this would be as effected and safe to use 
instead??


Re: CSBeck blood purifier

2012-10-11 Thread MaryAnn Helland
Ditto here.  My unit is a Colloid Master, which reverses polarity on a set 
schedule.  My EIS is always crystal clear, with no residues, and minimal 
discoloration of the electrodes.
MA





From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, October 11, 2012 5:39:43 AM
Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier

I cannot see this.  My Puppy has reverse polarity and I don’t get any dark 
oxides forming—quite the reverse in fact.  dee



From: D B mothman...@gmail.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 23:31:17 +0100
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier
Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 15:31:18 -0700

The idea of reversing polarity during the manufacturing process is a very bad 
idea and obvious design flaw. Far better to select one electrode, and make a 
mark at the top with a pair of pliers, then simply connect it to positive one 
run , then negative the next, keeping note of dates you use the 
marked electrode with neg or pos current. 

The reason for this is that you will accrue a large amount of dark oxides 
which should not be disturbed during manufacturing. If they get into the sol 
(colloid) then the ions coming of the electrode will then stick 
to those chunks and your sol will bottom out much quicker, the particles also 
being less therapeutically beneficial as they will be getting so large to the 
point where they will just not be able to pass inside cell tissue and kill 
pathogens, also creating more possibility 
of argyria skin discolouration, though 
that can be lessened or even removed with selenium supplementation to chelate 
it 
from the skin I read. The regular changing of polarity will just push a load of 
muck into the distilled water and act as a magnet for the smaller groups of 
ions 
to stick to. 

With best wishes, Dave

Re: CSDMSO Question

2012-10-11 Thread Lena Guyot
Hi Paul, 
The only hitch with DMSO is that it can be very drying to the skin. Mixed 50/50 
with Aloe, it's just as effective and the skin will be happier.
There's also a recipe called Brooks mix: 75%CS, 15%glycerin, and 10%DMSO. Great 
for wounds and aches. I put mine in a 1oz roll0on I got on eBay.
Also, tart cherry juice is good for gout, but if it gets pricey or hard to find 
for you, there are tart cherry capsules (I take one every night) that are 
pretty effective, too.
If you suspect gout, try to avoid foods with purines, like sardines, shrimp, 
smoked oysters, etc. That's what brought mine on.

Be well,
Léna



On Oct 11, 2012, at 7:53 AM, Paul Steel wrote:

 I have some lower back pain and might have a little gout as well.
 
 Was think about spraying some 99.9% pure DMSO on both areas and then I saw 
 this 70% DMSO Gel
 http://www.ihealthtree.com/dmso-gel-70-30-unfrag-plastic-4oz.html
 
 Anyone know if this would be as effected and safe to use instead??
 
 Thanks All
  
 Paul Steel
 h 508.520.6905
 c 508.922.0519
 The harder you work the luckier you get!
  



Re: CSDMSO Question

2012-10-11 Thread PT Ferrance
You can purchase cherry juice concentrate at a health food store.  I have done 
this for years.
Good luck.
PT





From: Jane MacRoss highfie...@internode.on.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, October 11, 2012 7:58:57 AM
Subject: Re: CSDMSO Question

 
By all means use the DMSO (I seriously  don't think there is much difference 
between the brands)  but also try  warm/hot water with fresh lemon juice in the 
morning - a litre if possible   before food - and drink any cherry juice at 
all 
for the gout. 

 
Jane
 
 
From: Paul Steel 


Ihave some lower back pain and might have a little gout as well.

Wasthink about spraying some 99.9% pure DMSO on both areas and then I saw 
this70% DMSO Gel
http://www.ihealthtree.com/dmso-gel-70-30-unfrag-plastic-4oz.html

Anyoneknow if this would be as effected and safe to use  instead??


Re: CSDMSO Question

2012-10-11 Thread jaxi
http://royalfarmsinc.com/cherries.htm

This is my favorite.  I used to be able to buy it locally but now I just
order directly them.

Jaxi

On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 10:10 AM, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 You can purchase cherry juice concentrate at a health food store.  I have
 done this for years.
 Good luck.
 PT

 --
 *From:* Jane MacRoss highfie...@internode.on.net
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Thu, October 11, 2012 7:58:57 AM
 *Subject:* Re: CSDMSO Question

 By all means use the DMSO (I seriously don't think there is much
 difference between the brands)  but also try warm/hot water with fresh
 lemon juice in the morning - a litre if possible  before food - and drink
 any cherry juice at all for the gout.

 Jane



 *From:* Paul Steel pste...@yahoo.com

 I have some lower back pain and might have a little gout as well.

 Was think about spraying some 99.9% pure DMSO on both areas and then I saw
 this 70% DMSO Gel
 http://www.ihealthtree.com/dmso-gel-70-30-unfrag-plastic-4oz.html

 Anyone know if this would be as effected and safe to use instead??




Re: CSBeck blood purifier

2012-10-11 Thread Zoe W
Same here,  Ive used a silver puppy for years and its always been nice and 
clear.  On occasion I do have to clean the silver rods, but nothing serious.

zoe



 From: MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Thursday, 11 October 2012, 10:05
Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier
 

Ditto here.  My unit is a Colloid Master, which reverses polarity on a set 
schedule.  My EIS is always crystal clear, with no residues, and minimal 
discoloration of the electrodes.
MA





 From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, October 11, 2012 5:39:43 AM
Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier

I cannot see this.  My Puppy has reverse polarity and I don’t get any dark 
oxides forming—quite the reverse in fact.  dee



 From: D B mothman...@gmail.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 23:31:17 +0100
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier
Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 15:31:18 -0700

The idea of reversing polarity during the manufacturing process is a very bad 
idea and obvious design flaw. Far better to select one electrode, and make a 
mark at the top with a pair of pliers, then simply connect it to positive one 
run , then negative the next, keeping note of dates you use the 
marked electrode with neg or pos current. 

The reason for
 this is that you will accrue a large amount of dark oxides which should not be 
disturbed during manufacturing. If they get into the sol (colloid) then the 
ions coming of the electrode will then stick to those chunks and your sol will 
bottom out much quicker, the particles also being 
less therapeutically beneficial as they will be getting so large to the 
point where they will just not be able to pass inside cell tissue and kill 
pathogens, also creating more possibility 
of argyria skin discolouration, though that can be lessened or even removed 
with selenium supplementation to chelate it from the skin I read. The regular 
changing of polarity will just push a load of muck into the distilled water and 
act as a magnet for the smaller groups of ions to stick to. 

With best wishes, Dave

Re: CSDMSO Question

2012-10-11 Thread Zoe W
Brooks wrote recently that they are now  using aloe gel instead of the 
glycerine.
zoe



 From: Lena Guyot drumr...@stny.rr.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Thursday, 11 October 2012, 10:55
Subject: Re: CSDMSO Question
 

Hi Paul, 
The only hitch with DMSO is that it can be very drying to the skin. Mixed 50/50 
with Aloe, it's just as effective and the skin will be happier.
There's also a recipe called Brooks mix: 75%CS, 15%glycerin, and 10%DMSO. Great 
for wounds and aches. I put mine in a 1oz roll0on I got on eBay.
Also, tart cherry juice is good for gout, but if it gets pricey or hard to find 
for you, there are tart cherry capsules (I take one every night) that are 
pretty effective, too.
If you suspect gout, try to avoid foods with purines, like sardines, shrimp, 
smoked oysters, etc. That's what brought mine on.

Be well,
Léna




On Oct 11, 2012, at 7:53 AM, Paul Steel wrote:

I have some lower back pain and might have a little gout as well.

Was think about spraying some 99.9% pure DMSO on both areas and then I saw 
this 70% DMSO Gel
http://www.ihealthtree.com/dmso-gel-70-30-unfrag-plastic-4oz.html

Anyone know if this would be as effected and safe to use instead??

Thanks All
 
Paul Steel
h 508.520.6905
c 508.922.0519
The harder you work the luckier you get!

 

CSGout flare up

2012-10-11 Thread Brickeyk
I am in the middle of a gout flare up concentrated in my knee. Could not  
walk or even lift my leg. First flare up in 15 years. I made 3 gallons  of 
apple juice and it was turning hard. I stopped drinking my  magnesium/seltzer 
and drank apple juice. Two days of this and gout flared. ER  prescribed 
Colcrys which really helped. I was controlling gout by taking B6 and  
magnesium. 
Hard to believe that a gout flare up was so close. Last flare up was  
caused by drinking wine on sale when I was winter camping near Los Angeles.  
Had 
to drive towing my trailer in LA traffic with using only one leg. I think  
the latest flare up was not caused by hard cider but neglecting my daily  
magnesium drink.
Brickey
 
If you suspect gout, try to  avoid foods with purines, like sardines, 
shrimp, smoked oysters, etc. That's  what brought mine on.


Be well,
Léna



Re: CSGout flare up

2012-10-11 Thread phoenix23002 tds.net
Brickey...  I guess you have heard that cherries can help with a gout
attack, fresh, canned or cherry extract in pill form.  They say gout is
very painful.  I am so sorry for your suffering.  I hope it is resolved
quickly.  :) Lola H.

On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 1:23 PM, brick...@aol.com wrote:

 **
 I am in the middle of a gout flare up concentrated in my knee. Could not
 walk or even lift my leg. First flare up in 15 years. I made 3 gallons
 of apple juice and it was turning hard. I stopped drinking my
 magnesium/seltzer and drank apple juice. Two days of this and gout flared.
 ER prescribed Colcrys which really helped. I was controlling gout by taking
 B6 and magnesium. Hard to believe that a gout flare up was so close. Last
 flare up was caused by drinking wine on sale when I was winter camping near
 Los Angeles. Had to drive towing my trailer in LA traffic with using only
 one leg. I think the latest flare up was not caused by hard cider but
 neglecting my daily magnesium drink.
 Brickey

 If you suspect gout, try to avoid foods with purines, like sardines,
 shrimp, smoked oysters, etc. That's what brought mine on.

 Be well,
 Léna




Re: CSDMSO Question

2012-10-11 Thread Paul Steel
Lena

Maybe i try this
http://www.ihealthtree.com/dmso-gel-70-30-aloe-plastic-4oz.html

Thanks for all the info:)

 
Paul Steel
h 508.520.6905
c 508.922.0519
The harder you work the luckier you get!

 



 From: Lena Guyot drumr...@stny.rr.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: CSDMSO Question
 

Hi Paul, 
The only hitch with DMSO is that it can be very drying to the skin. Mixed 50/50 
with Aloe, it's just as effective and the skin will be happier.
There's also a recipe called Brooks mix: 75%CS, 15%glycerin, and 10%DMSO. Great 
for wounds and aches. I put mine in a 1oz roll0on I got on eBay.
Also, tart cherry juice is good for gout, but if it gets pricey or hard to find 
for you, there are tart cherry capsules (I take one every night) that are 
pretty effective, too.
If you suspect gout, try to avoid foods with purines, like sardines, shrimp, 
smoked oysters, etc. That's what brought mine on.

Be well,
Léna




On Oct 11, 2012, at 7:53 AM, Paul Steel wrote:

I have some lower back pain and might have a little gout as well.

Was think about spraying some 99.9% pure DMSO on both areas and then I saw 
this 70% DMSO Gel
http://www.ihealthtree.com/dmso-gel-70-30-unfrag-plastic-4oz.html

Anyone know if this would be as effected and safe to use instead??

Thanks All
 
Paul Steel
h 508.520.6905
c 508.922.0519
The harder you work the luckier you get!

 

Re: CSDMSO Question

2012-10-11 Thread Lena Guyot
Hi Paul,
I've used this brand. It's good, but pricey for chronic use. I get DMSO from my 
local Feed'n'Seed,(for about 1/4 price) then combine with aloe vera gel I get 
in a tube at our Natural Food Store.
Glycerine is supposed to be drying, too, but in the original Brooks mix, it was 
used to soften the skin and I never noticed it having a drying effect. I made 
large bottles of the mix and then decanted them to my small roll-ons. (nice to 
have them scattered about for whenever, wherever I need them)
Now, I'm using the 50/50 DMSO and Aloe gel, and that seems to work very well. 
More DMSO than that, and the less exposed, more tender skin, like the back of 
knee, seems to get itchy and irritated. But we're all different.

Be well,
Léna
  
On Oct 11, 2012, at 2:09 PM, Paul Steel wrote:

 Lena
 
 Maybe i try this
 http://www.ihealthtree.com/dmso-gel-70-30-aloe-plastic-4oz.html
 
 Thanks for all the info:)
  
 Paul Steel
 h 508.520.6905
 c 508.922.0519
 The harder you work the luckier you get!
  
 
 From: Lena Guyot drumr...@stny.rr.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 10:55 AM
 Subject: Re: CSDMSO Question
 
 Hi Paul, 
 The only hitch with DMSO is that it can be very drying to the skin. Mixed 
 50/50 with Aloe, it's just as effective and the skin will be happier.
 There's also a recipe called Brooks mix: 75%CS, 15%glycerin, and 10%DMSO. 
 Great for wounds and aches. I put mine in a 1oz roll0on I got on eBay.
 Also, tart cherry juice is good for gout, but if it gets pricey or hard to 
 find for you, there are tart cherry capsules (I take one every night) that 
 are pretty effective, too.
 If you suspect gout, try to avoid foods with purines, like sardines, shrimp, 
 smoked oysters, etc. That's what brought mine on.
 
 Be well,
 Léna
 
 
 
 On Oct 11, 2012, at 7:53 AM, Paul Steel wrote:
 
 I have some lower back pain and might have a little gout as well.
 
 Was think about spraying some 99.9% pure DMSO on both areas and then I saw 
 this 70% DMSO Gel
 http://www.ihealthtree.com/dmso-gel-70-30-unfrag-plastic-4oz.html
 
 Anyone know if this would be as effected and safe to use instead??
 
 Thanks All
  
 Paul Steel
 h 508.520.6905
 c 508.922.0519
 The harder you work the luckier you get!
  
 
 
 



RE: CSBeck blood purifier

2012-10-11 Thread Neville Munn


Dee, MA and Zoe, does anyone decant or filter at any time...Yes/No?
N.

Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 17:14:02 +0100
From: mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk
Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier
To: silver-list@eskimo.com

Same here,  Ive used a silver puppy for years and its always been nice and 
clear.  On occasion I do have to clean the silver rods, but nothing serious.
zoe

From: MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Thursday, 11 October 2012, 10:05
 Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier
   
Ditto here.  My unit is a Colloid Master, which reverses polarity on a set 
schedule.  My EIS is always crystal clear, with no residues, and minimal 
discoloration of the electrodes.
MA





From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, October 11, 2012 5:39:43 AM
Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier

I cannot see this.  My Puppy has reverse polarity and I don’t get any dark 
oxides forming—quite the reverse in fact.  dee







   
  

Re: CSGout flare up

2012-10-11 Thread Jane MacRoss
Yes - and please know ANY cherry jiuce will do - like it doesn't have to be 
sour cherries - just any cherries ..
  - Original Message - 
  From: phoenix23002 tds.net 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 4:35 AM
  Subject: Re: CSGout flare up


  Brickey...  I guess you have heard that cherries can help with a gout attack, 
fresh, canned or cherry extract in pill form.  They say gout is very painful.  
I am so sorry for your suffering.  I hope it is resolved quickly.  :) Lola 
H.


  On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 1:23 PM, brick...@aol.com wrote:

I am in the middle of a gout flare up concentrated in my knee. Could not 
walk or even lift my leg. First flare up in 15 years. I made 3 gallons of apple 
juice and it was turning hard. I stopped drinking my magnesium/seltzer and 
drank apple juice. Two days of this and gout flared. ER prescribed Colcrys 
which really helped. I was controlling gout by taking B6 and magnesium. Hard to 
believe that a gout flare up was so close. Last flare up was caused by drinking 
wine on sale when I was winter camping near Los Angeles. Had to drive towing my 
trailer in LA traffic with using only one leg. I think the latest flare up was 
not caused by hard cider but neglecting my daily magnesium drink.
Brickey
  If you suspect gout, try to avoid foods with purines, like sardines, 
shrimp, smoked oysters, etc. That's what brought mine on.


  Be well,
  Léna


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Re: CSDMSO Question

2012-10-11 Thread Jane MacRoss
But don't spend extra on health products as any cherry juice at all cures it 
.
  - Original Message - 
  From: PT Ferrance 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 2:10 AM
  Subject: Re: CSDMSO Question


  You can purchase cherry juice concentrate at a health food store.  I have 
done this for years.
  Good luck.
  PT




--
  From: Jane MacRoss highfie...@internode.on.net
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Thu, October 11, 2012 7:58:57 AM
  Subject: Re: CSDMSO Question


  By all means use the DMSO (I seriously don't think there is much difference 
between the brands)  but also try warm/hot water with fresh lemon juice in the 
morning - a litre if possible  before food - and drink any cherry juice at all 
for the gout. 

  Jane


From: Paul Steel 


I have some lower back pain and might have a little gout as well.

Was think about spraying some 99.9% pure DMSO on both areas and then I saw 
this 70% DMSO Gel
http://www.ihealthtree.com/dmso-gel-70-30-unfrag-plastic-4oz.html

Anyone know if this would be as effected and safe to use instead??

  No virus found in this message.
  Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
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Re: CSBeck blood purifier

2012-10-11 Thread Zoe W


What do you mean by decant?   I make it in quart canning jars  and pour out 
what I need , and cap what is left.
zoe


 From: Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Thursday, 11 October 2012, 17:59
Subject: RE: CSBeck blood purifier
 

 

Dee, MA and Zoe, does anyone decant or filter at any time...Yes/No?

N.




Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 17:14:02 +0100
From: mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk
Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier
To: silver-list@eskimo.com


Same here,  Ive used a silver puppy for years and its always been nice and 
clear.  On occasion I do have to clean the silver rods, but nothing serious.

zoe



 From: MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Thursday, 11 October 2012, 10:05
Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier
 

Ditto here.  My unit is a Colloid Master, which reverses polarity on a set 
schedule.  My EIS is always crystal clear, with no residues, and minimal 
discoloration of the electrodes.
MA





 From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, October 11, 2012 5:39:43 AM
Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier

I cannot see this.  My Puppy has reverse polarity and I don’t get any dark 
oxides forming—quite the reverse in fact.  dee




Re: RE: CSBeck blood purifier

2012-10-11 Thread HARSHA GODAVARI
No. Never  but then I have always used distilled water.

regards
hg

- Original Message -
From: Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.com
Date: Thursday, October 11, 2012 5:02 pm
Subject: RE: CSBeck blood purifier
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com

 
 
 Dee, MA and Zoe, does anyone decant or filter at any time...Yes/No?
 N.
 
 Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 17:14:02 +0100
 From: mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk
 Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 
 Same here,  Ive used a silver puppy for years and its 
 always been nice and clear.  On occasion I do have to clean 
 the silver rods, but nothing serious.
 zoe
     
     From: MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, 11 October 2012, 10:05
  Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier
    
 Ditto here.  My unit is a Colloid Master, which reverses 
 polarity on a set schedule.  My EIS is always crystal 
 clear, with no residues, and minimal discoloration of the electrodes.
 MA
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Thu, October 11, 2012 5:39:43 AM
 Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier
 
 I cannot see this.  My Puppy has reverse polarity and I 
 don’t get any dark oxides forming—quite the reverse in 
 fact.  dee
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
    
    


Re: CSGout flare up

2012-10-11 Thread Ross Craig
i have had gout for thirty years...fought it with everything i could 
research...but in the end, the only thing that for sure prevents more attacks 
is allopurinol. 

lagoon
  - Original Message - 
  From: brick...@aol.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 2:23 PM
  Subject: CSGout flare up


  I am in the middle of a gout flare up concentrated in my knee. Could not walk 
or even lift my leg. First flare up in 15 years. I made 3 gallons of apple 
juice and it was turning hard. I stopped drinking my magnesium/seltzer and 
drank apple juice. Two days of this and gout flared. ER prescribed Colcrys 
which really helped. I was controlling gout by taking B6 and magnesium. Hard to 
believe that a gout flare up was so close. Last flare up was caused by drinking 
wine on sale when I was winter camping near Los Angeles. Had to drive towing my 
trailer in LA traffic with using only one leg. I think the latest flare up was 
not caused by hard cider but neglecting my daily magnesium drink.
  Brickey
If you suspect gout, try to avoid foods with purines, like sardines, 
shrimp, smoked oysters, etc. That's what brought mine on.


Be well,
Léna
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RE: CSBeck blood purifier

2012-10-11 Thread Neville Munn

Decant...Pouring off liquid leaving some liquid behind which may have 
observable settlement or sediment in the bottom of the storage vessel.
To all who replied...So, it would appear there is never any settlement 
observable in the bottom of the containers after being in storage for a while - 
interesting.
Thanks for that everyone.
N.

Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 23:31:15 +0100
From: mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk
Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier
To: silver-list@eskimo.com


What do you mean by decant?   I make it in quart canning jars  and pour out 
what I need , and cap what is left.zoeFrom: Neville Munn 
one.red...@hotmail.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Thursday, 11 October 2012, 17:59
 Subject: RE: CSBeck blood purifier
 
  





Dee, MA and Zoe, does anyone decant or filter at any time...Yes/No?
N.

Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 17:14:02 +0100
From: mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk
Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier
To: silver-list@eskimo.com

Same here,  Ive used a silver puppy for years and its always been nice and 
clear.  On occasion I do have to clean the silver rods, but nothing serious.
zoe

From: MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Thursday, 11 October 2012, 10:05
 Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier
   
Ditto here.  My unit is a Colloid Master, which reverses polarity on a set 
schedule.  My EIS is always crystal clear, with no residues, and minimal 
discoloration of the electrodes.
MA





From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, October 11, 2012 5:39:43 AM
Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier

I cannot see this.  My Puppy has reverse polarity and I don’t get any dark 
oxides forming—quite the reverse in fact.  dee







   
  


  

Re: CSGout flare up

2012-10-11 Thread Jane MacRoss
What a challenge!  My (nursing) patient with gout (since she was on Lasix 
(Frusemide) I considered it to be chronic dehydration)  but I bought her 6 
litres of cherry juice and on 30mL twice a day within a week her gout had gone, 
she denied ever having it - refused to take the cherry juice further, since she 
didn't need it,  and then said it hadn't worked since the pain came back - I 
managed to get her to continue the regime once more but after a repeat of that 
rationale I gave up as she asked me not to come again!  It is a matter of 
persistence and coping with the over 90 mentality!!

Apart from cherry juice I would like to see what impact a litre of pure water 
with a squeeze of fresh lemon juice every morning before breakfast might have 
on your condition. Allopurinol is not a nice drug.

Jane
  - Original Message - 
  From: Ross Craig 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 12:33 PM
  Subject: Re: CSGout flare up


  i have had gout for thirty years...fought it with everything i could 
research...but in the end, the only thing that for sure prevents more attacks 
is allopurinol. 

  lagoon
- Original Message - 
From: brick...@aol.com 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 2:23 PM
Subject: CSGout flare up


I am in the middle of a gout flare up concentrated in my knee. Could not 
walk or even lift my leg. First flare up in 15 years. I made 3 gallons of apple 
juice and it was turning hard. I stopped drinking my magnesium/seltzer and 
drank apple juice. Two days of this and gout flared. ER prescribed Colcrys 
which really helped. I was controlling gout by taking B6 and magnesium. Hard to 
believe that a gout flare up was so close. Last flare up was caused by drinking 
wine on sale when I was winter camping near Los Angeles. Had to drive towing my 
trailer in LA traffic with using only one leg. I think the latest flare up was 
not caused by hard cider but neglecting my daily magnesium drink.
Brickey
  If you suspect gout, try to avoid foods with purines, like sardines, 
shrimp, smoked oysters, etc. That's what brought mine on.


  Be well,
  Léna
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Re: CSGout flare up

2012-10-11 Thread Lena Guyot
Hi Jane,
FWIW, I'd been routinely taking pure water with a squeeze of lemon, when I 
suddenly had a gout flare-up, so I'm not sure that its alkalizing effects had 
much benefit on the condition. (also fairly routinely use Alka-seltzer Gold 
whenever I'm herxing from killing Lyme) 
Tart cherry backed the gout symptoms off very quickly. I used Knudsens's tart 
cherry concentrate, diluted. 
Then, when traveling made things harder to get and store, I used tart cherry 
capsules and haven't had any trouble since. I even occasionally eat things 
containing purines, but sparingly.(but then, I'd never had gout symptoms until 
this year.)

Be well,
Léna
On Oct 11, 2012, at 11:14 PM, Jane MacRoss wrote:

 What a challenge!  My (nursing) patient with gout (since she was on Lasix 
 (Frusemide) I considered it to be chronic dehydration)  but I bought her 6 
 litres of cherry juice and on 30mL twice a day within a week her gout had 
 gone, she denied ever having it - refused to take the cherry juice further, 
 since she didn't need it,  and then said it hadn't worked since the pain came 
 back - I managed to get her to continue the regime once more but after a 
 repeat of that rationale I gave up as she asked me not to come again!  It is 
 a matter of persistence and coping with the over 90 mentality!!
  
 Apart from cherry juice I would like to see what impact a litre of pure water 
 with a squeeze of fresh lemon juice every morning before breakfast might have 
 on your condition. Allopurinol is not a nice drug.
  
 Jane
 - Original Message -
 From: Ross Craig
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 12:33 PM
 Subject: Re: CSGout flare up
 
 i have had gout for thirty years...fought it with everything i could 
 research...but in the end, the only thing that for sure prevents more attacks 
 is allopurinol.
  
 lagoon
 - Original Message -
 From: brick...@aol.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 2:23 PM
 Subject: CSGout flare up
 
 I am in the middle of a gout flare up concentrated in my knee. Could not walk 
 or even lift my leg. First flare up in 15 years. I made 3 gallons of apple 
 juice and it was turning hard. I stopped drinking my magnesium/seltzer and 
 drank apple juice. Two days of this and gout flared. ER prescribed Colcrys 
 which really helped. I was controlling gout by taking B6 and magnesium. Hard 
 to believe that a gout flare up was so close. Last flare up was caused by 
 drinking wine on sale when I was winter camping near Los Angeles. Had to 
 drive towing my trailer in LA traffic with using only one leg. I think the 
 latest flare up was not caused by hard cider but neglecting my daily 
 magnesium drink.
 Brickey
 If you suspect gout, try to avoid foods with purines, like sardines, shrimp, 
 smoked oysters, etc. That's what brought mine on.
 
 Be well,
 Léna
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Re: CSGout flare up/cherry juice grape query

2012-10-11 Thread Jane MacRoss
Like everything else gout is, I imagine,  an individual thing - my local cherry 
juice supplier ($15/L) told me that people come to visit their orchards from 
all over the world and follow the cherry season (seems extreme but this is what 
she told me) theirs is ordinary cherry juice and it cured my patient.  I love 
to eat the Polish bottled sour cherries we get here, perhaps this stops me 
having this problem.  Lemon in water doesn't make anything worse for us either 
as far as I can see. 

Did you use chemical free water and was it an organic lemon?  I use both of 
these for this drink.

Also can  you advise me I have been buying US seedless grapes for my husband 
who loves grapes,  they come with a warning that there might be residual 
sulphates on the grapes - although I wash them thoroughly I wondered about GM 
qualities of US produce?

Thanks Lena

Jane
  - Original Message - 
  From: Lena Guyot 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 2:26 PM
  Subject: Re: CSGout flare up


  Hi Jane,
  FWIW, I'd been routinely taking pure water with a squeeze of lemon, when I 
suddenly had a gout flare-up, so I'm not sure that its alkalizing effects had 
much benefit on the condition. (also fairly routinely use Alka-seltzer Gold 
whenever I'm herxing from killing Lyme) 
  Tart cherry backed the gout symptoms off very quickly. I used Knudsens's tart 
cherry concentrate, diluted. 
  Then, when traveling made things harder to get and store, I used tart cherry 
capsules and haven't had any trouble since. I even occasionally eat things 
containing purines, but sparingly.(but then, I'd never had gout symptoms until 
this year.)


  Be well,
  Léna

  On Oct 11, 2012, at 11:14 PM, Jane MacRoss wrote:


What a challenge!  My (nursing) patient with gout (since she was on Lasix 
(Frusemide) I considered it to be chronic dehydration)  but I bought her 6 
litres of cherry juice and on 30mL twice a day within a week her gout had gone, 
she denied ever having it - refused to take the cherry juice further, since she 
didn't need it,  and then said it hadn't worked since the pain came back - I 
managed to get her to continue the regime once more but after a repeat of that 
rationale I gave up as she asked me not to come again!  It is a matter of 
persistence and coping with the over 90 mentality!!

Apart from cherry juice I would like to see what impact a litre of pure 
water with a squeeze of fresh lemon juice every morning before breakfast might 
have on your condition. Allopurinol is not a nice drug.

Jane
  - Original Message -
  From: Ross Craig
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 12:33 PM
  Subject: Re: CSGout flare up


  i have had gout for thirty years...fought it with everything i could 
research...but in the end, the only thing that for sure prevents more attacks 
is allopurinol.

  lagoon
- Original Message -
From: brick...@aol.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 2:23 PM
Subject: CSGout flare up


I am in the middle of a gout flare up concentrated in my knee. Could 
not walk or even lift my leg. First flare up in 15 years. I made 3 gallons of 
apple juice and it was turning hard. I stopped drinking my magnesium/seltzer 
and drank apple juice. Two days of this and gout flared. ER prescribed Colcrys 
which really helped. I was controlling gout by taking B6 and magnesium. Hard to 
believe that a gout flare up was so close. Last flare up was caused by drinking 
wine on sale when I was winter camping near Los Angeles. Had to drive towing my 
trailer in LA traffic with using only one leg. I think the latest flare up was 
not caused by hard cider but neglecting my daily magnesium drink.
Brickey
  If you suspect gout, try to avoid foods with purines, like sardines, 
shrimp, smoked oysters, etc. That's what brought mine on.


  Be well,
  Léna
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CSPH measurement

2012-10-11 Thread Melly Bag
Hi All,
 
When you measure the PPM of your EIS solution, do you dip the ph meter into the 
whole jar, or do you take some into another glass and measure from there?  Is 
there any chemical in the ph meter?
 
Thanks.
 
Melly