CS>toxins in soap

[Nenah Sylver]

Go to the KD Gold website.  
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Re: QUESTION FOR JERRY DURAND = Re: CS>Gotham Steel Pan

[Joe]

http://annschenkel.com/your-liver-your-dishwashing-soap/

Here's a reference to it in a Shaklee ad...

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> On May 31, 2016, at 10:06 PM, Jerry Durand  wrote:
> 
> It's in Dr Neiper's book.  I don't remember the details now, but he was 
> highly against dishwashing detergent.
> 
>> On 05/31/2016 09:52 PM, English wrote:
>> JERRY DURAND -- WANT TO EXPLAIN WHY dish washing soap leads to a large 
>> number of heart attacks???  That's a new one
> 
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Re: QUESTION FOR JERRY DURAND = Re: CS>Gotham Steel Pan

[English]

THANKS Jerry.  I will try to find the answer.  This just seems so strange to 
me, especially because soap is rinsed off.  Maybe it has to do with fumes or 
something like that.  If that is the case, I find it hard to believe that being 
exposed to those small amount of fumes while doing dishes (by hand)  would be a 
serious health issue -- enough to cause a LARGE number of heart attacks. Thanks 
again for your prompt response !!!



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From: Jerry Durand 
To: silver-list 
Sent: Wed, Jun 1, 2016 12:07 am
Subject: Re: QUESTION FOR JERRY DURAND = Re: CS>Gotham Steel Pan


It's in Dr Neiper's book.  I don't remember the details now, but hewas 
highly against dishwashing detergent.


On 05/31/2016 09:52 PM, English wrote:


JERRY DURAND-- WANT TO EXPLAIN WHY dish washing soap leads to a large 
numberof heart attacks???  That's a new one




  

  

  


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Re: CS>Non Stick Cookware

[S Khanna]

I second that, Jerry.  The only problem is the weight - gets a bit cumbersome 
to handle sometimes.
There is a new cast iron pan on the market which weighs considerably less.  
I'll look up the name.
Sally

  From: Jerry Durand 
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 7:17 PM
 Subject: Re: CS>Non Stick Cookware
   
 I thought I should expand on this since the concept of cast iron seems foreign 
to many modern people.
 
 Never, ever use soap/detergent!
 
 You clean with a stainless scrubby ball (get from most grocery or hardware 
stores for $1 or two) and warm to hot water.  Dry completely and put away.
 
 New cast iron (even pre-seasoned) needs to be fully seasoned, you can either 
do this by just using it with a little extra oil/fat in it or do it all at once 
by baking in oil.  You can find instructions on the web.
 
 No soap!
 
 On 05/31/2016 09:08 AM, Jerry Durand wrote:
  
 
Seasoned cast iron.  Best non-stick ever if you take care of it (like not 
washing the seasoning off).
 
 
 -- Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc. http://www.interstellar.com/tel: +1 
408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886Skype: jerrydurand  

  

Re: QUESTION FOR JERRY DURAND = Re: CS>Gotham Steel Pan

[Jerry Durand]

It's in Dr Neiper's book.  I don't remember the details now, but he was 
highly against dishwashing detergent.


On 05/31/2016 09:52 PM, English wrote:
JERRY DURAND -- WANT TO EXPLAIN WHY dish washing soap leads to a large 
number of heart attacks???  That's a new one






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QUESTION FOR JERRY DURAND = Re: CS>Gotham Steel Pan

[English]

JERRY DURAND -- WANT TO EXPLAIN WHY dish washing soap leads to a large number 
of heart attacks???  That's a new one






-Original Message-
From: Jerry Durand 
To: silver-list 
Sent: Tue, May 31, 2016 10:36 pm
Subject: Re: CS>Gotham Steel Pan

If cast iron is less than 50 years old, it's still a youngster. It's not 
getting old until around 100 or so years.  :)

BTW, Dr. Neiper says dishwashing soap leads to a large number of heart 
attacks.

On 05/31/2016 08:32 PM, cassidy wrote:
> I like my iron skillet and also a small stainless steel.   My iron 
> skillet is very old so well seasoned ..does great.
>

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Re: CS>Non Stick Cookware

[phoenix23...@tds.net]

My dear mother-in-law introduced me to the 'joys' of cooking with good old cast
iron cookware back when I was a dumb, young bride.  How dumb was I (and a 
citygirl to boot)?  She sent some fresh picked corn on the cob to me via hubby 
and Iboiled it for 40 mins.  Had no clue how long to cook it since I had never, 
ever fixedfresh corn before. Anyhow, she showed me how to season a cast 
iron skillet.  Used to... you would slather up the skillet up real good with 
Crisco (this was back before trans-fats were frowned upon) and put it in a 200 
- 250 degree oven for  4 - 6  hours.  You wouldwipe out any excess, unabsorbed 
Crisco and you would be good to go. You never wanted that skillet to 'dry out' 
during that baking time and would add extra Criscoif need be.   As Jerry said, 
you never, ever used soap or abrasives except very sparingly and onlyas 
necessary.  If soap or abrasives were used by some weird circumstance, you 
wouldhave to reseason the skillet in the oven again.  Always dry it very well 
before puttingthe skillet/pan up because it can rust. I have an iron skillet 
that is dedicated to baking cornbread and cornbread only.  Youmelt a good blob 
of lard/butter/coconut oil (the times have changed..lol)  in a hot oven inyour 
iron skillet, pull it out of the oven, pour in your batter.  Let it bake for 20 
- 25 mins til set, remove from oven.  Cover the pan with a plate, invert the 
cake of cornbread onto the plate and slip the cornbread back into the skillet, 
bottom-side up now.  Continue to bake for another 10 - 15 mins.  Slide the 
cornbread out of the skillet onto the serving plate.  Brush any crumbs out of 
the skillet and let cool before putting the skillet up.  I usually let it cool 
completely and then store it in a large Ziploc bag.  AndI just dare anybody to 
use that skillet for anything but cornbread...lol.. After 30 years, it is 
perfect.Lola 
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Sent: Tue, 31 May 2016 22:17:31 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: CS>Non Stick Cookware


 I thought I should expand on this since the concept of cast iron
 seems foreign to many modern people.


 Never, ever use soap/detergent!


 You clean with a stainless scrubby ball (get from most grocery or
 hardware stores for $1 or two) and warm to hot water.  Dry
 completely and put away.


 New cast iron (even pre-seasoned) needs to be fully seasoned, you
 can either do this by just using it with a little extra oil/fat in
 it or do it all at once by baking in oil.  You can find instructions
 on the web.


 No soap!

On 05/31/2016 09:08 AM, Jerry Durand
 wrote:
Seasoned cast iron.  Best non-stick ever if you
 take care of it (like not washing the seasoning off).


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Re: CS>Gotham Steel Pan

[Jerry Durand]

If cast iron is less than 50 years old, it's still a youngster. It's not 
getting old until around 100 or so years.  :)


BTW, Dr. Neiper says dishwashing soap leads to a large number of heart 
attacks.


On 05/31/2016 08:32 PM, cassidy wrote:
I like my iron skillet and also a small stainless steel.   My iron 
skillet is very old so well seasoned ..does great.




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Re: CS>Gotham Steel Pan

[cassidy]

I like my iron skillet and also a small stainless steel.   My iron 
skillet is very old so well seasoned ..does great.


On 5/31/2016 10:42 AM, Ron wrote:

I believe that Teflon types release the harmful chems at higher temps.




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Re: CS>Non Stick Cookware

[Joe]

Hi All
I do something similar to Jerry Durand. I use a le creuset cast iron lined with 
glass/ceramic that is not unlike non-stick. It's expensive but last forever. I 
seasoned it with lard in a slow oven 175' for about 3 to 4 hours. Decant the 
lard out and let the pan cool - see YouTube. I get rid of the remainder w a 
paper towel or rag. 
After I cook in it and the pan has cooled, I scrape out the big bits with a 
wooden spoon then use table salt as an abrasive and a rag to get rid of the 
rest. Rinse in cold water and put away til next time.  No detergent or soap. 
It works. Oh, and I cook over a lower heat to prevent scorch. 
Liked this thread. I'm not using aluminum any more. 
Joe Robinson 

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> On May 31, 2016, at 7:17 PM, Jerry Durand  wrote:
> 
> I thought I should expand on this since the concept of cast iron seems 
> foreign to many modern people.
> 
> Never, ever use soap/detergent!
> 
> You clean with a stainless scrubby ball (get from most grocery or hardware 
> stores for $1 or two) and warm to hot water.  Dry completely and put away.
> 
> New cast iron (even pre-seasoned) needs to be fully seasoned, you can either 
> do this by just using it with a little extra oil/fat in it or do it all at 
> once by baking in oil.  You can find instructions on the web.
> 
> No soap!
> 
>> On 05/31/2016 09:08 AM, Jerry Durand wrote:
>> Seasoned cast iron.  Best non-stick ever if you take care of it (like not 
>> washing the seasoning off).
> 
> -- 
> Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc.  www.interstellar.com
> tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886
> Skype:  jerrydurand 

Re: CS>Non Stick Cookware

[Jerry Durand]

I thought I should expand on this since the concept of cast iron seems 
foreign to many modern people.


Never, ever use soap/detergent!

You clean with a stainless scrubby ball (get from most grocery or 
hardware stores for $1 or two) and warm to hot water.  Dry completely 
and put away.


New cast iron (even pre-seasoned) needs to be fully seasoned, you can 
either do this by just using it with a little extra oil/fat in it or do 
it all at once by baking in oil.  You can find instructions on the web.


No soap!

On 05/31/2016 09:08 AM, Jerry Durand wrote:
Seasoned cast iron.  Best non-stick ever if you take care of it (like 
not washing the seasoning off).




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CS>Still

[Jerry Durand]

Just for general info, the still I ordered arrived.  It looks like the
original construction is good.  The tubes need to be flushed out, they
have some smoke in them from the welding.  But I wouldn't use it without
cleaning even if it looked clean.

Only problem is it looks like customs unpacked and repacked
it...poorly...and there's some bends in the lid.  Filing claim now...

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Re: CS>Non Stick Cookware

[Jerry Durand]

Seasoned cast iron.  Best non-stick ever if you take care of it (like
not washing the seasoning off).

On 05/31/2016 05:46 AM, Paul Steel wrote:
> Hey All
>
> I recently bought mercola's cookware and for certain things its
> greatBUT for making eggs its terrible...Even putting in a ton of
> butter doesn't help.
>
> So my question is- Is there such a thing as a good nonstick pan?...If
> so, which one??
>
> Thanks
> Paul
>

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Re: CS>Gotham Steel Pan

[Ron]

I believe that Teflon types release the harmful chems at higher temps.
I still use an old Teflon pan for eggs on low. I figure since I have 
overheated it several times ( and held my breath while airing the room ) 
in the past that it has pretty much out-gassed. Guess I should get a canary?


Ron

On 5/31/2016 8:35 AM, wanda85...@yahoo.com wrote:

I recently bought a Gotham pan and it works good but I do use a little oil in 
it.   They say not but I find it co is the food better with just a touch of oil.

One thing I did read that might be important is that when cooking in a non 
stick pan, u should only good on medium heat, not high.   Seems like the high 
heat will damage it or so they say.

Gail

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On May 31, 2016, at 8:13 AM, Ron  wrote:

OK sorry I opened my mouth. Amazon reviews are terrible.
http://www.amazon.com/GOTHAM-STEEL-inches-Non-stick-Titanium/dp/B018T909XG
Ron


On 5/31/2016 8:07 AM, Ron wrote:
Gotham pan source: 
http://www.carolwrightgifts.com/gotham-steel-as-seen-on-tv/48406.cfm
Not a recommendation of the product.

Reviews of the Green Pan are really bad.
Ron


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Re: CS>Gotham Steel Pan

[wanda85929]

I recently bought a Gotham pan and it works good but I do use a little oil in 
it.   They say not but I find it co is the food better with just a touch of 
oil.   

One thing I did read that might be important is that when cooking in a non 
stick pan, u should only good on medium heat, not high.   Seems like the high 
heat will damage it or so they say.

Gail

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> On May 31, 2016, at 8:13 AM, Ron  wrote:
> 
> OK sorry I opened my mouth. Amazon reviews are terrible.
> http://www.amazon.com/GOTHAM-STEEL-inches-Non-stick-Titanium/dp/B018T909XG
> Ron
> 
>> On 5/31/2016 8:07 AM, Ron wrote:
>> Gotham pan source: 
>> http://www.carolwrightgifts.com/gotham-steel-as-seen-on-tv/48406.cfm
>> Not a recommendation of the product.
>> 
>> Reviews of the Green Pan are really bad.
>> Ron
>> 
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Re: CS>Non Stick Cookware

[Joe Huard]

I was going to mention cast iron, but I don't own one now. I do own a 
ceramic 12" from Mercola, but don't use it for eggs. For bacon and eggs, 
or sausage and eggs, I use a Paderno pan. It is advertised as ceramic 
inside an aluminum casting. Very light compared to full ceramic.
The Paderno started out very slippery, even better than Teflon. I 
stopped using Teflon years ago. Now it still does a decent job, but 
sticks a bit using it just for breakfast. I use it daily without washing 
it every day. I assume that if I did take the time to wash it every day, 
it might be a tad slippier, but I can live with the slight stickiness by 
lifting the egg from several sides to avoid breaking the yoke.


Joe

On 2016-05-31 10:47 AM, Melisse Gamache wrote:


I use lard on my cast iron and let it heat for 15 minutes.

On May 31, 2016 6:13 AM, "Teri Kavakos" > wrote:


Ceramic is good not totally non sick but use butter and it will do
the job just fine.

Teri

On 5/31/2016 8:46 AM, Paul Steel wrote:

Hey All

I recently bought mercola's cookware and for certain things its
greatBUT for making eggs its terrible...Even putting in a ton
of butter doesn't help.

So my question is- Is there such a thing as a good nonstick
pan?...If so, which one??

Thanks
Paul





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Re: CS>Gotham Steel Pan

[Ron]

OK sorry I opened my mouth. Amazon reviews are terrible.
http://www.amazon.com/GOTHAM-STEEL-inches-Non-stick-Titanium/dp/B018T909XG
Ron

On 5/31/2016 8:07 AM, Ron wrote:
Gotham pan source: 
http://www.carolwrightgifts.com/gotham-steel-as-seen-on-tv/48406.cfm

Not a recommendation of the product.

Reviews of the Green Pan are really bad.
Ron


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CS>Gotham Steel Pan

[Ron]

Gotham pan source: 
http://www.carolwrightgifts.com/gotham-steel-as-seen-on-tv/48406.cfm

Not a recommendation of the product.

Reviews of the Green Pan are really bad.
Ron


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CS>Re: cs non-stick cookware.

[Ron]

https://www.gothamsteel.com/gotham/13./index.dtm?otsrid=3f2169de-0371-4f4c-8856-85c78d6a9e55
Embedded video.

I know nothing about it except the advert. Careful research might get 
some good info.


Ron


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Re: CS>Non Stick Cookware

[Melisse Gamache]

I use lard on my cast iron and let it heat for 15 minutes.
On May 31, 2016 6:13 AM, "Teri Kavakos"  wrote:

> Ceramic is good not totally non sick but use butter and it will do the job
> just fine.
>
> Teri
>
> On 5/31/2016 8:46 AM, Paul Steel wrote:
>
> Hey All
>
> I recently bought mercola's cookware and for certain things its
> greatBUT for making eggs its terrible...Even putting in a ton of butter
> doesn't help.
>
> So my question is- Is there such a thing as a good nonstick pan?...If so,
> which one??
>
> Thanks
> Paul
>
>
>

Re: CS>Non Stick Cookware

[Teri Kavakos]

Ceramic is good not totally non sick but use butter and it will do the 
job just fine.


Teri

On 5/31/2016 8:46 AM, Paul Steel wrote:

Hey All

I recently bought mercola's cookware and for certain things its 
greatBUT for making eggs its terrible...Even putting in a ton of 
butter doesn't help.


So my question is- Is there such a thing as a good nonstick pan?...If 
so, which one??


Thanks
Paul

CS>Non Stick Cookware

[Paul Steel]

Hey All
I recently bought mercola's cookware and for certain things its greatBUT 
for making eggs its terrible...Even putting in a ton of butter doesn't help.

So my question is- Is there such a thing as a good nonstick pan?...If so, which 
one??
ThanksPaul