CS>The truth about mask wearing and covid-19 transmission

[Dan Nave]

RETIRED SURGEON Sam Laucks, has this to say about wearing masks:

“OK, here’s my rant...

I have spent the past 39 years working in the field of surgery. For a
significant
part of that time, I have worn a mask. I have worked with hundreds
(probably thousands) of colleagues during those years, who have also worn
masks.

Not a single one of us became ill, passed out or died from lack of oxygen.
Not a single one of us became ill, passed out or died from breathing too
much carbon dioxide. Not a single one of us became ill, passed out or died
from rebreathing a little of our own exhaled air.

Let’s begin here by putting those scare tactics to rest!

(It is true that some people, with advanced lung diseases, may be so
fragile that a mask could make their already-tenuous breathing more
difficult. If your lungs are that bad, you probably shouldn’t be going out
in public at the present time anyway; the consequences if you are exposed
to Covid-19 would likely be devastating.)

~ “But”, you ask, “can’t viruses go right through the mask, because they
are so small?” (“Masks keep viruses out just as well as a chain link fence
keeps mosquitoes out,” some tell us.) It is true that individual virus
particles can pass through the pores of a mask; however, viruses don’t move
on their own. They do not fly across the room like a mosquito, wiggle
through your mask like a worm, or fly up your nose like a gnat.
.
~ The virus is essentially nothing more than a tiny blob of genetic
material. Covid-19 travels in a CARRIER – the carrier is a fluid droplet-
fluid droplets that you expel when you cough, sneeze, sing, laugh, talk or
simply exhale. Most of your fluid droplets will be stopped from entering
the air in the room if you are wearing a mask. Wearing a mask is a very
efficient way to protect others if you are carrying the virus (even if you
don’t know that you are infected). In addition, if someone else’s fluid
droplets happen to land on your mask, many of them will not pass through.
This gives the wearer some additional protection, too. But, the main reason
to wear a mask is to PROTECT OTHERS. Even if you don’t care about yourself,
wear your mask to protect your neighbors, co-workers and friends!
.
~ A mask is certainly not 100% protective. However, it appears that the
severity of Covid-19 infection is at least partially “dose-dependent.” In
other words, the more virus particles that enter your body, the sicker you
are likely to become. Why not decrease that volume if you can? “What have
you got to lose?!”
.
~ “But doesn’t a requirement or a request to wear a mask violate my
constitutional rights?” You’re also not allowed to go into the grocery
store if you are not wearing pants. You can’t yell “fire” in the Produce
Department. You’re not allowed to urinate on the floor in the Frozen Food
Section. Do you object to those restrictions? Rules, established for the
common good, are component of a civilized society.
.
~ “But aren’t masks uncomfortable?” Some would say that underwear or shoes
can be uncomfortable, but we still wear them. (Actually, being on a
ventilator is pretty darned uncomfortable, too!) Are masks really so bad
that you can’t tolerate them, even if they will help keep others healthy?
.
~ “But won’t people think I’m a snowflake or a wimp if I wear a mask?” I
hope you have enough self-confidence to overcome that.
.
~ “But I never get sick; I’m not worried.” Well, then, wear a mask for the
sake of the rest of us who are not so perfect!

There is good evidence that masks make a real difference in diminishing the
transmission of Covid-19. Please, for the sake of others (and for the sake
of yourself), wear your mask when in public. It won’t kill you!

P.S. - And, by the way, please be sure that BOTH your nose and mouth are
covered!

Recommendations around mask usage are confusing. The science isn't.

Evidence shows that masks are extremely effective to slow the coronavirus
and may be the best tool available right now to fight it.

Re: CS>Hypothesis

[Dan Nave]

I'm going to maintain "physical distancing" from this post...

On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 9:24 PM Neville Munn  wrote:

> OK, here's a hypothesis for this Covid crap and a couple of simple Yes/No
> questions.  I'm not a virologist or biochemist so these are simple
> questions.
>
> A Virus, in this case Coronavirus, (which is the normal Virus we get every
> year, which we know had been 'manipulated' in a laboratory), is 'not
> living', so, when it enters a lung cell it then takes 'life' from that
> cell, then it multiplies, then it 'breaks' out of the cell as a 'living'
> cell/s and spreads.  We know EIS will kill Viruses, so, if a Nebuliser is
> used, then the silver will/should kill that/those Corona cell/s...Yes/No?
> If Yes, then whilst the silver 'vapour' is distributed throughout the lungs
> those lung cells become surrounded by the silver in the lungs, hence the
> Virus cannot enter the lung cell...Yes/No?  Eventually because the virus
> cannot enter the lung cells due to the cells being surrounded by silver,
> they should die by natural attrition...Yes/No?
>
> If anyone can answer, KEEP IT SIMPLE please.
>
> N.
>

Re: CS>Question about CS and COVID

[Dan Nave]

Are we actually seeing any reports of CS being effective on Covid-19?

On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 7:38 AM Ode Coyote 
wrote:

> HiYa Shelby !!
>
> CS will kill the HECK out of Covid 19
>
> ode
>
> On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 11:19 AM Shelby  wrote:
>
>> Hello, I have never posted here before and I hope I am doing it
>> correctly. I learned that COVID is inside a lipid cell. How can CS help
>> with this?
>>
>>
>>
>> Shelby
>>
>>
>> 
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Re: CS>Polarity reversal

[Dan Nave]

There should be no problem with relay life in this case as the main cause
of relay failure is from high current damaging the contacts.  Colloidal
silver generation is usually done with very low currents.

Dan

On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 1:13 PM Gm Gm  wrote:

> Hi there:
>Just wondering if anyone has done any experimenting with the
> timing for polarity reversal. Not doubting the 1 minute at all. But at that
> rate, that would be 60 cycles an hour, and 600 cycles for a 10 hour brew.
> Since I make several brews at a time, that is a lot of wear and tear on the
> relays. Does anyone know the lifetime cycles those relays can handle before
> failure? I am going to be using a DH 48S-2Z unit from Amazon.
>Thank you... Regards Grant.
>

Re: CS>Dengue fever that led to 10 years disability. Please advise.

[Dan Nave]

Best to get a diagnosis.  Hard to treat if you don't know what it is,
unless you want to try homeopathy.

On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 4:32 PM Reid Harvey 
wrote:

> Greetings All, I emailed about my friend's husband's disability of 10
> years, starting with dengue fever, and now she's given me the following
> details.  Can somebody please suggest some remedy??  I've told her there
> should be treatment other than what's allopathic.  Please advise!
>
> "Well he had dengue 10 years ago…not sure if that is still the problem,
> but he never really recovered from it and had aches in his joints and
> fevers every 10 days or so since then. I was concerned it caused an auto
> immune disease, but they haven’t found any of the usual ones (Lyme, lupus,
> MS, etc) so not sure… he now has neuropathy, muscle spasms, lack of taste,
> difficulty swallowing, and any cold he gets lasts a long time."
>
>

CS>Also, take the conspiracy stuff to the off-topic list where it belongs

[Dan Nave]

Also, take the conspiracy stuff to the off-topic list where it belongs

CS>In these trying times

[Dan Nave]

In these trying times, don't forget to take your meds.
Lithium, antipsychotic medications, tranquilizers,
antidepressants; whatever you need.
Thank you.

Re: CS>Anode verses cathode size.

[Dan Nave]

According to 'Ole Bob, the cathode size is not critical to the process.
Although, the smaller the cathode, the higher the applied voltage needs to
be to maintain the current.  But, if you have enough voltage available to
run the system, it should be fine.  However, I like Marshall's suggestion
for polarity switching.


On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 10:37 AM Sam L.  wrote:

> Thanks Marshall
> I am out of the States at the moment so just working with what I have. My
> design is similar to Trems high speed generator, it would look something
> like this   -I+I-I+I-I+I-I+I-I with the anodes and cathodes being 1 inch
> apart. I have four 2.5 inch square inch electrodes and two 4 square inch
> electrode and lots of 12 and 14 gauge silver rod.
> I have a small half gallon generator that I use now, is enough for me and
> my sons family and friends but now demand is increasing. I would be using a
> small submersible fish pump for stirring in a 4 gallon container.
> I would need to experiment with the brew time of course but once I got
> that down my theory is to just take one gallon out and replace with 1
> gallon distilled water.
> Any suggestions are appreciated.
> tia
> Sam L.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 10:58 AM Marshall  wrote:
>
>> I have used the flow through process for about 20 years.  It is best if
>> you alternate the anode and cathode every minute.  That prevents the
>> buildup of black on one and white on the other, since when you reverse
>> the polarity, it will burn it back off.  Obviously if you are doing
>> that, both electrodes need to be the same size.  If you use silver
>> sheets you can easily get into decent flow through rates.  Use a
>> flowmeter with a fountain pump to regulate the flow, and run a constant
>> current.
>>
>> Marshall
>>
>> On 4/7/2020 8:34 PM, Sam L. wrote:
>> > A old timer here, just haven't posted in a long time. I have different
>> > sizes of silver bars and rod, Is a long story so I will not get into
>> > details about it.
>> > As I understand it,I need one square inch of anode per 1 mA. I have
>> > current control and stirring and a mA meter to verify. I guess my
>> > question being, does the cathode size matter?
>> > And if it does how would that affect the EIS solution.
>> > I am trying to engineer a flow though process where I just drain off 1
>> > gallon and then add 1 gallon of distilled water.
>> > Not to bring up bad memories, but was a discussion here a decade ago
>> > or more with Mike M and I believe it was concerning the size of the
>> > cathode verses the anode?
>> > tia
>> > Sam L
>> >
>> > --
>> > A government big enough to give you everything you want will take
>> > everything you have.
>>
>>
>> --
>> The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.
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>>
>>
>
> --
> A government big enough to give you everything you want will take
> everything you have.
>

Re: CS>Quercetin and Zinc may combat COVID-19

[Dan Nave]

No, not correct.  Very sloppy thinking, but maybe OK for the Silver List.


On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 11:21 PM Neville Munn  wrote:

> Sorry, I'm not a Bio chemist, that is all gobbledegook to me.
>
> So, I'll rephrase what I asked before...
>
> All I want to know is...Quote: "The process of converting a living cell
> into a virus also converts it into a more primitive cell structure" End
> quote.
>
> Is that correct...Yes/No?
>
> N.
>
> --
> *From:* Dan Nave 
> *Sent:* Sunday, 5 April 2020 2:13 PM
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com 
> *Subject:* CS>Quercetin and Zinc may combat COVID-19
>
> "A South Korean research paper has demonstrated in Vitro that by
> increasing the Zinc concentration in cellular cytoplas
>

Re: CS>Answering CS disinfo correctly.

[Dan Nave]

A living cell doesn't convert into a virus.  While it may or may not
convert into a more primitive cell (for which he gives no references) what
primitive form of what enzyme is vulnerable to Colloidal Silver, and how
close does colloidal silver have to get to affect it.  Closer than 6
feet?...

"The process of converting a living cell into a virus also converts it into
a more primitive cell structure.  This more primitive form of enzyme is
vulnerable to the effect of Colloidal Silver and becomes permanently
disabled by simply being near Colloidal Silver."


On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 11:02 PM Neville Munn  wrote:

> Tell me what's wrong with it Dan.  Delete the Silver part, I'm not
> concerned with that, I left it in because I shouldn't quote something and
> delete content,  just correct the rest of it?
>
> N.
>
> ------
> *From:* Dan Nave 
> *Sent:* Sunday, 5 April 2020 1:16 PM
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com 
> *Subject:* Re: CS>Answering CS disinfo correctly.
>
> Whoever wrote this is an idiot.  He doesn't understand what he is writing
> about.  At the very least he is an extremely sloppy thinker or writer.
>
> "The process of converting a living cell into a virus also converts it
> into a more primitive cell structure.  This more primitive form of enzyme
> is vulnerable to the effect of Colloidal Silver and becomes permanently
> disabled by simply being near Colloidal Silver."
>
> On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 8:38 AM Neville Munn 
> wrote:
>
> Well, this is an excerpt, I can't remember where I got it from, it's too
> long ago, but for what it's worth...
>
> "A single virus will invade a living cell of body tissue, then take over
> the nucleus of the cell and alter its reproductive mechanism to replicate
> itself.  The newly produced virus then spreads through the bloodstream.
> The process of converting a living cell into a virus also converts it into
> a more primitive cell structure.  This more primitive form of enzyme is
> vulnerable to the effect of Colloidal Silver and becomes permanently
> disabled by simply being near Colloidal Silver."
>
> If the above is true, and I don't doubt it is, then the above would apply
> to Nebulizing, concerning the lungs in particular. (opinion)
>
> N.
> --
> *From:* MaryAnn Helland 
> *Sent:* Saturday, 4 April 2020 11:02 PM
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com 
> *Subject:* Re: CS>Answering CS disinfo correctly.
>
> Does anyone have any info regarding nebulizing CS as an antidote to Covid
> exposure?  I've been doing so twice a day since this whole mess started --
> as a precautionary measure -- but I don't really know if CS is actually
> effective against this or any other virus.
>
> Any thoughts?
> MA
>
>

CS>Quercetin and Zinc may combat COVID-19

[Dan Nave]

"A South Korean research paper has demonstrated in Vitro that by increasing
the Zinc concentration in cellular cytoplasm, that viral replication is
inhibited. As intracellular levels of Zinc are increased the inhibition of
viral replication can reach 100% according to charts within the paper. The
researchers used two antimalarial drugs which are Ionophores. Ionophores
are molecules that can carry a charged ion like Zinc across a cellular
membrane. South Korea has been treating high risk, Critically I’ll COVID-19
patients with the drug Hydroxychloroquine. It is likely the single clinical
reason that South Korea has the lowest death rate in the world for COVID-19
victims of 0.6% Hydroxychloroquine is a pharmaceutical drug that requires a
prescription. However there is a nutritional supplement called Quercetin
that is a Zinc Chelator and Ionophore and requires no prescription. It’s
interesting that there has been a great deal of research done on the
ability of Elderberries as and antiviral agent. And Elderberries, Red Wine
and Blueberries all three have high amounts of Quercetin. It may be likely
that the high Quercetin content of these foods is the reason for their
measurable anti-viral properties. So what would be better than
supplementing Zinc and Quercetin together to elevate intracellular Zinc
levels in order to inhibit viral replication? Since there have been no
Clinical Trials of this supplement regimen then dosages are your best
guess. But even increasing Zinc to levels that result in a thirty percent
inhibition seems like a major advantage to the patient, and may be enough
to tip the struggle in your favour."
https://nutritionalpharmacology.wordpress.com/2020/03/21/combating-covid-19-with-zinc-and-quercetin/


Although they recommend taking some zinc to get your levels up, they don't
recommend taking the quercetin along with it until you feel you have some
symptoms of, or exposure to, COVID-19.

Re: CS>Answering CS disinfo correctly.

[Dan Nave]

Whoever wrote this is an idiot.  He doesn't understand what he is writing
about.  At the very least he is an extremely sloppy thinker or writer.

"The process of converting a living cell into a virus also converts it into
a more primitive cell structure.  This more primitive form of enzyme is
vulnerable to the effect of Colloidal Silver and becomes permanently
disabled by simply being near Colloidal Silver."

On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 8:38 AM Neville Munn  wrote:

> Well, this is an excerpt, I can't remember where I got it from, it's too
> long ago, but for what it's worth...
>
> "A single virus will invade a living cell of body tissue, then take over
> the nucleus of the cell and alter its reproductive mechanism to replicate
> itself.  The newly produced virus then spreads through the bloodstream.
> The process of converting a living cell into a virus also converts it into
> a more primitive cell structure.  This more primitive form of enzyme is
> vulnerable to the effect of Colloidal Silver and becomes permanently
> disabled by simply being near Colloidal Silver."
>
> If the above is true, and I don't doubt it is, then the above would apply
> to Nebulizing, concerning the lungs in particular. (opinion)
>
> N.
> --
> *From:* MaryAnn Helland 
> *Sent:* Saturday, 4 April 2020 11:02 PM
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com 
> *Subject:* Re: CS>Answering CS disinfo correctly.
>
> Does anyone have any info regarding nebulizing CS as an antidote to Covid
> exposure?  I've been doing so twice a day since this whole mess started --
> as a precautionary measure -- but I don't really know if CS is actually
> effective against this or any other virus.
>
> Any thoughts?
> MA
>
>

Re: CS>The MY 520S

[Dan Nave]

Neville, you and Reid are starting to scare me...

Ultrasonic nebulizers do not heat or boil the liquid to be nebulized.
Ultrasonic nebulizers work by vibrating at a frequency that is somewhat
above the normal sound range for hearing, hence "ultra-sonic."
The ultrasonic vibrations must travel through a liquid for this to work, so
you have to fill distilled water in the nebulizer up to the level where the
clear plastic starts.
Then you fill your CS in the bottom half of the little cup and insert that
into the unit.  There is a sealing ring that you install on top to keep it
sealed properly.
The point of the little cup is to keep the liquid to be nebulized away from
the vibrating part of the nebulizer so it doesn't gum it up.
Also, it lets you use less of the CS or whatever you are using.
This vibrating causes tiny particles on the surface of the liquid to "jump"
into the air, so to speak, and float in the air as a mist.
Be careful installing the top of the nebulizer because it is somewhat
fussy...

Hope that helps.

Dan

On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 9:43 PM Neville Munn  wrote:

> These little Nebulisers.
>
> They say put water in the bottom bowl, insert medicine cup with your
> preferred medication, then turn it on.  I guess it heats the water up, but,
> is any of that water going to mix with my EIS?  Or does it just heat
> something up independently to the medication?  The old Nebuliser I have had
> for years doesn't take any water, so how do these little things work?
>
> Yeah, I know, I'm a dumb_rse, so humour me.  The little 'manual' talks
> about heat, which I guess is the water being heated?  I don't want to
> dilute my EIS.  My old one, you just put the medication in a little cup,
> turn it on and it's good to go.
>
> N.
>

Re: CS>Making EIS

[Dan Nave]

Thanks Victor,
This looks great.  The one I have has some sort of ceramic deal that keeps
getting plugged up when it dries out.  This design looks pretty good.
There are some sellers selling at twice the price, so beware.
I just bought one.
Dan

On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 5:55 PM Victor Cozzetto 
wrote:

> Awesome! MY-520 on eBay. I will have to keep that written somewhere ;-)
> Wow, I have been looking for this for a while now, as my old one broke,
> and I was never able to find the same model!!
> I absolutely love this little thing, and it cannot be beat for the price.
> Thanks Ode!
> Victor
> *
> Victor F. Cozzetto
> Wise Traditions Nutritionist
> U.S.: (516) 908-1039
> www.Vitagenics.net 
> YouTube Channel 
> *
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 8:46 PM Ode Coyote 
> wrote:
>
>> The MY-520 is what I like...and it's CHEAP on ebay.
>>
>> *The really good part is they have a "medicine cup" that keeps silver
>> water away from the ultrasonic transducer which will become encrusted with
>> silver if exposed...very hard to clean out. *
>>
>> *The Ultrasonic Vibrations are transferred to the medicine cup through a
>> bit of distilled water which will not foul the transducer.*
>>
>> *They also run on 12 volts DC which means you can plug them into a car
>> power outlet [aka lighter socket]*
>>
>

CS>Making EIS

[Dan Nave]

Got out the old SilverPuppy and started cranking out colloidal silver.
Almost set for the COVID-19 pandemic...

CS>Re: CS>Re: CS>Chinese Using “Silver Fogger Machine” to Beat Coronavirus

[Dan Nave]

Actually, he says to use an ultrasonic nebulizer of some sort.
Read the article.


On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 5:17 PM Ron  wrote:

> Hi Dave - Hi Neville,
> Are we talking about spray or atomizing? And "their" product is not the
> question - or the answer.
>
> Ron
>
> On 2/22/2020 3:11 PM, Dan Nave wrote:
>
> He says to do what you suggest in his article.
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 2:36 AM Neville Munn 
> wrote:
>
>> Hmmm, and from a personal perspective, why can't one use a nasal spray
>> full of our 'home grown' silver I ask?  Here in Australia, they are talking
>> about some propriety concoction administered via nasal spray...Well, what's
>> new, I don't see any difference between "their" product and what we make in
>> our homes?
>>
>> N.
>>
>> --
>> *From:* Dan Nave 
>> *Sent:* Saturday, 22 February 2020 3:02 PM
>> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com 
>> *Subject:* CS>Chinese Using “Silver Fogger Machine” to Beat Coronavirus
>>
>>
>> https://thesilveredge.com/chinese-using-silver-fogger-machine-to-beat-coronavirus/
>>
>>
>> Silver Edge article on the Chinese Using “Silver Fogger Machine” to Beat
>> Coronavirus
>>
>
>

CS>Re: CS>Chinese Using “Silver Fogger Machine” to Beat Coronavirus

[Dan Nave]

He says to do what you suggest in his article.


On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 2:36 AM Neville Munn  wrote:

> Hmmm, and from a personal perspective, why can't one use a nasal spray
> full of our 'home grown' silver I ask?  Here in Australia, they are talking
> about some propriety concoction administered via nasal spray...Well, what's
> new, I don't see any difference between "their" product and what we make in
> our homes?
>
> N.
>
> ------
> *From:* Dan Nave 
> *Sent:* Saturday, 22 February 2020 3:02 PM
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com 
> *Subject:* CS>Chinese Using “Silver Fogger Machine” to Beat Coronavirus
>
>
> https://thesilveredge.com/chinese-using-silver-fogger-machine-to-beat-coronavirus/
>
>
> Silver Edge article on the Chinese Using “Silver Fogger Machine” to Beat
> Coronavirus
>

CS>Chinese Using “Silver Fogger Machine” to Beat Coronavirus

[Dan Nave]

https://thesilveredge.com/chinese-using-silver-fogger-machine-to-beat-coronavirus/


Silver Edge article on the Chinese Using “Silver Fogger Machine” to Beat
Coronavirus

Re: CS>Colloidal copper/silver combor

[Dan Nave]

That looks like an interesting concept and device but at $69 it is
outrageously expensive.

On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 at 7:46 AM Robert Banever 
wrote:

>
> Speaking of copper I recently purchased a pure copper device called the
> Copper-Zap.  It's placed in the nasal passageways for 60 seconds when you
> feel a cold coming on.  I've used it twice so far and if certainly got rid
> of any sensation of a virus attacking my sinus cavity.  Copper alone is
> known to kill or inactivate both virus and bacteria.  I wonder if copper
> pipes in peoples homes are doing the same thing?
>
>

Re: CS>Colloidal copper/silver combor

[Dan Nave]

Arm and Hammer baking soda recommends 1/2 teaspoon of baking soda in 1/2
cup of water, check out the instructions on the box.  You can take it more
than one time a day, but I don't think you should take large quantities
continually.  I suspect if you take 1 teaspoon or more at a time, you might
get diarrhea.

On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 at 2:20 PM Jean Baugh 
wrote:

>   And speaking of alkaline water, what opinions are there about a tsp of
> baking soda to a glass of water?
>

> Jean
>
> **
>
>

Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[Dan Nave]

Rheumatoid Arthritis

On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 7:33 PM Deborah Gerard  wrote:

> RA=Arthritis...people use the abbreviation quit a lot for it.
>
> On Monday, June 10, 2019, 03:24:47 AM EDT, Phil Morrison <
> philmorrison...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> To: Deb Gerard
>
> RA ... radioactivity?
>
> Ref please.
>
>

Re: CS>Fwd: brown EIS

[Dan Nave]

Try washing everything (glassware, electrodes, stirrers, etc) out well with
hydrogen peroxide and white paper towels.  Rinse at least three times with
distilled water.  Don't leave any hydrogen peroxide behind.  Do not use any
soap or cleaner and don't contaminate it with your hands.  (Easier said
than done)  Then try making your EIS.  You may have to make one or two
batches before it comes out OK.

On Sun, Apr 28, 2019 at 3:32 PM Joe Huard  wrote:

>
>
> Dear Members,
>
> I have been a long-time inactive on this list because of a lack of time.
> However, I have been making EIS for many years.
>
> My problem is that the EIS  that I make now is brown.
>
> I used the Colloid Master AC with distilled water at 2 µS/cm. It was never
> even yellow until this year using all of the same water, apparatus and
> glass jar.
>
> It measures 23 µS/cm., so around 14.7 PPM.
>
> I use it in my Water Pic, but would like to try drinking and nebulizing it.
>
> Is there any solution?
>
>
> JoeH
>
>
>

CS>Study - Three-antibiotic cocktail clears 'persister' Lyme bacteria in mouse study

[Dan Nave]

<
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2019-04-three-antibiotic-cocktail-persister-lyme-bacteria.html?utm_source=nwletter_medium=email_campaign=daily-nwletter
>

For you lymies on the list...Three-antibiotic cocktail clears 'persister'
Lyme bacteria in mouse study.

Re: CS>Silver + minerals = ?

[Dan Nave]

Our EIS (colloidal silver) is almost entirely distilled water.  Vanishing
small quantities of silver in it.  It should be fine.

On Sun, Apr 14, 2019 at 9:19 AM PT Ferrance  wrote:

> Hi,
> It turned out part of my problem is the water I was drinking was quite
> acidic.  As I have tried to bring up the pH I have noticed I have to clean
> the jug I make it in more often because of a reddish-orange growth that
> develops on the inside.  To make my drinking water I start with distilled
> water and then add minerals, especially magnesium and also colloidal trace
> minerals.  Then I test for pH and bring it up to the balanced area of
> around 6.5 with potassium and sodium bicarbonate.
>
> My question is, if I add a small amount of EIS to this jug of water will I
> be creating some other chemical that would not be good for me to take in?
>
> Thanks for any help you can give.
> PT
>
>

Re: CS>question about earthing material

[Dan Nave]

Check out this site.  They have a lot of silver fabrics. It may be best to
contact them directly about any particular fabric to make sure that it is
100% fine silver.
< http://www.lessemf.com/fabric1.html#1230;

Dan

On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 7:27 PM PT Ferrance  wrote:

> If James McDonald is still on this list.  Do you have a new supplier of
> the rip-stop silver fabric for the bandages?  The website you list below is
> not longer available.
> Thanks.
> PT
>
>
> On Saturday, January 26, 2013, 12:19:31 PM EST, James McDonald <
> kscma...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> I use their rip-stop silver fabric to make "powered silver bandages" I
> have several different sized cut(in the shape of bandaids & pads) with a
> small power source to run silver ios off of the "bandaids. My neighbor who
> has diabetess and had an ulcer from the knee to the ankle, it has been
> opened for over 5 years. It only took 2 months with wearing the silver
> bandaid 2 hours a day. Worked great! No scar's and healed nicely. I am
> making several of these so my kids will have them as well as neighbors who
> already want them. I have told them of the cost of material, they still
> want them. Buying the material in bulk would be cheaper, but I have just
> handwashed the silver fabric just to be extra careful!
>
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Sent:* Saturday, January 26, 2013 2:37 AM
> *Subject:* Re: CS>question about earthing material
>
> A natural would be cotton or bamboo or silk interlaced with carbon
> thread.  If this is not available, I think one could buy carbon thread or
> conductive thread and just sew a few zig zag patterns in the foot region of
> a spread.  just glanced at this page with some conductive silver plated
> fabrics.  http://www.fine-silver-productsnet.com/shmefayaandf.html
>
> On 1/26/2013 12:01 AM, Nenah Sylver wrote:
>
> This is addressed to Bonita Poulin and anyone else who might know.
> Thanks to some very informative discussions in this group, I am ready
> to buy some Earthing material with which to make a half-sheet for my bed. 
> Bonita
> had written: “I just received the fabric and grounding cord I ordered
> from www.lessEMF.com  . The fabric covers most
> of my queen size bed. Total cost, including USDS shipping was $69.50, much
> cheaper than the ready made grounding sheets sold online.”
> It is indeed a great price. The only thing, the material sold on this
> site is polyester. I like natural fibers, and am wondering how comfortable
> you found this material. Also, have you felt better since sleeping on this?
> Researching more into this, I’ve found that the conductive silver
> threads can break (thus losing their conductivity), so the sheets must be
> handled carefully.
> Any info you can provide will be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks.
> Nenah
>
> Nenah Sylver, PhD
> author, the NEW *Rife Handbook* (2011)
> *Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy* (2004)
> VoiceBio and Biomodulator certification
> www.nenahsylver.com; www.rifehandbook.com
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: CS>Re: CS/blood electrification

[Dan Nave]

I think the mechanics and effects of body electrification will be shown to
be incredibly complex and the sodium hydroxide and hypochlorous acid theory
will be shown to be too simplistic to account for all the effects of body
electrification.  It may be more likely with direct current stimulation as
in the Godzilla zapper sort of application, but when you get to pulsed
waveforms, square waves vs sine waves, biphasic vs monophasic pulses,
various pulse rates and frequencies of pulses, then all bets will be off.
The body apparently also responds to electric fields as well, as was shown
in experiments of limb regeneration.

On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 2:32 PM, Ode Coyote 
wrote:

> Electrons do not enter the bloodstream.  No free electrons can exist in a
> liquid...they are transported by electro chemical
> reactions...'piggybacking' on ionic compounds.
> What happens is that the salt in your blood is split into Sodium Hydroxide
> and Hypochlorous Acid, changing the PH of your blood at either electrode
> site.
> Changing the polarity reverses the PH change, going through neutral before
> becoming the opposite electro chemical.
> Bare wires on skin do not produce electrical burns...rather, chemical burns
>
> Your nerves use fast chemical reactions in an insulated sheath to deliver
> communications...not like "electricity over a metal wire"
> If the voltage and power is high enough, the electricity will form a
> plasma channel [ioinizing everything in its path as a conductive high
> temperature gas] and essentially blow a vapor hole through you . [Lightning
> Strike, electric chair, grabbing a 440 volt line while standing in a puddle]
>
> Ode
>
> On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 9:40 AM, Reid Harvey 
> wrote:
>
>> If I might chime in I'm recalling conversation from ten years or more
>> ago.  Two electrodes wrapped in gauze would be placed on either side of the
>> artery at one's wrist, with a small current, such that electrons get into
>> the blood stream.  Sorry I can't remember some of the details, such as the
>> voltage and timing and the nature of the electrons, etc.
>>
>> What we had discussed I believe, was that electrons get into the blood
>> stream, fending off pathogens.  In case others do not recall this, wouldn't
>> it be in the archives?  As mentioned some months ago I had managed to
>> assist a friend in overcoming a terrible toothache, that he placed the
>> electrodes on either side of the infected tooth.  I seem to recall that he
>> did this for a period of a few minutes every couple of hours, such that the
>> toothache was gone after two days.
>>
>> Reid
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 9:31 AM, MaryAnn Helland 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Where can I learn more about this, Phil?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 11:42 PM, Phil Morrison <
>>> philmorrison...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Blood electrification operates on a periodic square wave platform.
>>>
>>> Rivitive and the like operate on a periodic sine wave
>>> function.
>>>
>>> These are totally different waveforms ... no comparison.
>>>
>>> The square wave restores the blood colloidal system, separates sticky
>>> cells and breaks up agglomerates, creating "immortal" blood.
>>>
>>> Three cheers for Bob Beck.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: CS>zapper address

[Dan Nave]

I have stardust in me...


On Sun, Jul 8, 2018 at 7:25 AM, Ron  wrote:

> Yeah but yours don't have 'stardust' in 'em.
> Ron ;-)
>
>
> On 7/7/2018 8:24 PM, Dan Nave wrote:
>
> I made several using Hulda Clark's original concept, a 9 volt square wave
> oscillator operating at about 30KHz.  You can look up a simple schematic
> design using a 555 timer and a few resistors and capacitors.  I used hand
> held electrodes, basically pieces of copper tubing.  I have had good
> results with this for several conditions, including prostatitis, vaginitis,
> shingles,  and mononucleosis ("mono").
>
> On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 8:35 AM, Harsha Godavari 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the information. Here is a URL for Wesley's book:
>> <https://ia800209.us.archive.org/0/items/desideratumorel00we
>> slgoog/desideratumorel00weslgoog.pdf>
>>
>> BTW I have one of the earlier zappers but did not find it very effective.
>> The current price of the terminator-2  is close $200.00 in Canuck money and
>> that's a bit pricey for joe_sixpack :-)
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Shirley Reed 
>> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>> Sent: Fri, 06 Jul 2018 22:02:49 -0600 (MDT)
>> Subject: CS>zapper address
>>
>> The website is http://www.worldwithoutparasites.com  and the one I
>> prefer is the Terminator 2.   Mr. Croft charges  134.00 dollars for that
>> model, but he tells where to get his simplest version for 35 or so
>> dollars.  Everyone can get a free copy of a  very short book published in
>> 1749 by John Wesley, founder of the Methodist religion, telling things he
>> saw with his own eyes regarding the use of primitive equipment.  The first
>> 30 or so pages tell about their equipment.  If I could understand it I
>> would try to use it, but I could study it for a month and still might not
>> understand it.  Around  page 40 he starts telling the experiences.  He
>> gives dates, places,name of patient, exactly what was wrong, what the
>> treatment was, and gives the outcome.  He founded 2 to 4 free clinics for
>> the poor in London depending on th source of the info.  The name of the
>> book is  Desideratum.  It means "necessary thing" in Latin.  It's in the
>> public domain so you can get a free copy here and there. Or at
>> abebooks.com  you can get a facsimile.  for about 8 dollars.  It's in
>> Shakespear's english so be prepared.  As for the names of the illnesses,
>> just ask for the definition and it will take you to an archaic medical
>> dictionary and give the modern day equivaltent.   Only Jesus did better,
>> imho.
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: CS>zapper address

[Dan Nave]

I made several using Hulda Clark's original concept, a 9 volt square wave
oscillator operating at about 30KHz.  You can look up a simple schematic
design using a 555 timer and a few resistors and capacitors.  I used hand
held electrodes, basically pieces of copper tubing.  I have had good
results with this for several conditions, including prostatitis, vaginitis,
shingles,  and mononucleosis ("mono").

On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 8:35 AM, Harsha Godavari  wrote:

> Thanks for the information. Here is a URL for Wesley's book:
>  desideratumorel00weslgoog.pdf>
>
> BTW I have one of the earlier zappers but did not find it very effective.
> The current price of the terminator-2  is close $200.00 in Canuck money and
> that's a bit pricey for joe_sixpack :-)
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Shirley Reed 
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Sent: Fri, 06 Jul 2018 22:02:49 -0600 (MDT)
> Subject: CS>zapper address
>
> The website is http://www.worldwithoutparasites.com  and the one I prefer
> is the Terminator 2.   Mr. Croft charges  134.00 dollars for that model,
> but he tells where to get his simplest version for 35 or so dollars.
> Everyone can get a free copy of a  very short book published in 1749 by
> John Wesley, founder of the Methodist religion, telling things he saw with
> his own eyes regarding the use of primitive equipment.  The first 30 or so
> pages tell about their equipment.  If I could understand it I would try to
> use it, but I could study it for a month and still might not understand
> it.  Around  page 40 he starts telling the experiences.  He gives dates,
> places,name of patient, exactly what was wrong, what the treatment was, and
> gives the outcome.  He founded 2 to 4 free clinics for the poor in London
> depending on th source of the info.  The name of the book is  Desideratum.
> It means "necessary thing" in Latin.  It's in the public domain so you can
> get a free copy here and there. Or at abebooks.com  you can get a
> facsimile.  for about 8 dollars.  It's in Shakespear's english so be
> prepared.  As for the names of the illnesses, just ask for the definition
> and it will take you to an archaic medical dictionary and give the modern
> day equivaltent.   Only Jesus did better, imho.
>
>
>

Re: CS>osteoarthritis

[Dan Nave]

How/where did you apply the zapper?  How long, etc?


On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 10:40 AM, Shirley Reed 
wrote:

>   Silver seems to be good for nearly everything.  But a Don Croft zapper
> has taken down the osteoarthritis in my hands for  20 years now.  No pain,
> no disfigurement of the hands and fingers, no heat or redness for 20
> years.  No meds either.  And 9 volt batteries last for 60 or  70 hours or
> so and are 2 for a dollar at the dollar store.  Don't know about fibro but
> suspect it will do the same for it.  My son's acne was gone in 3 days.
> Extreme fatigue on my part took a couple of weeks to greatly resolve and
> longer to be completely gone.
>

Re: CS>HELP...I am loosing my sense of taste...

[Dan Nave]

Using hydrogen peroxide in the mouth can cause you to loose your ability to
taste.

On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 1:48 PM, Deborah Gerard 
wrote:

> Hi Isa,
>
> I was reading last-night about the zinc...I do take zinc 15mg but maybe
> need to up it too or try to eat meat. It is so expensive to eat grass fed
> beef and I sure don't want to eat any of the other toxic garbage...I think
> it is both taste and smell...but mostly taste...drove me nuts I thought the
> food was just getting worse or something...lol..Will get to the bottom of
> it for sure .
>
> Thanks so much,
>
> Debbie
>
> On Saturday, May 12, 2018, 7:49:59 AM EDT, Isa M 
> wrote:
>
>
> Hello Debbie, is it smell or taste (or both..)?  If it is smell Zinc
> supplement can help ... Homeopathy too, Teucrium Marum.
> ᐧ
>
> 2018-05-12 10:29 GMT+02:00 André Juthe :
>
> If you are using CS in your mouth daily then that will make you loose
> taste for obvious reasons (it kills the bacteria in the mouth which should
> be there and which contribute to the taste when eating) but it is
> reversible. I just abstain from CS a week or two.
>
> /AJ
>
> 2018-05-12 6:10 GMT+02:00 David Bearrow :
>
> Hello Debbie,
>
> I’m certainly no expert nor a doctor but I notice you started losing
> tastes just about as spring came around and all the plants and trees
> started spewing pollen into the air. Might it be that allergies have gotten
> to you and enflamed your sinus which can effect your taste?
> If you think this might be true I recommend you cleanse your liver. 
> http://www.drclark.net/
> cleanses/advanced/liver-cleans e-page/liver-cleanse-recipe
> 
>
> Dr Hulda Clark gave this simple recipe for cleaning the liver. It works.
> Its truth. I have mitigated my lifelong horrible alergy to grass using this
> method.
>
> There is a forum at https://www.curezone.org/.
>
> David Bearrow chip...@verizon.net
>
> On Friday, May 11, 2018, STEVE LEVINE  wrote:
>
> Hi Debbie,
>
>
> That doesn't sound like normal aging to me. It could be a pinched nerve
> going to the taste buds in the upper cervical vertebrae. A good chiro could
> take care of that if that is the issue. If it is pathogenic/parasites then
> a zapper and antiparasitics would be helpful.
>
> Thanks
>
> Steve
>
> www.energyhealersteve.com
>
> 702-768-1804
>
> On May 11, 2018 at 8:32 PM Deborah Gerard  wrote:
>
> Can you all comment for me please,
>
> I am going to be 67 next month and in the last year or more I have really
> noticed a dive in my ability to taste things. Is this normal part of aging?
> I eat real clean no gmo's, no wheat, no diary, no processed foods, filter
> my water that is all I drink, take all the vitamins and minerals and make
> CS and take that daily...no hair dye no deodorant no non-stick cookware.
> I cut out sugar and I notice if I eat at someones house say a desert I am
> totally miserable the next day all day with incredible pressure in my
> head...could I have parasites maybe?
>
> Thanks tons in advance,
>
> Debbie...Happy Mother's Day to all you ladies too
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> André Juthe
> andre.ju...@gmail.com
> +46736232019
> Myrvägen 26
> 74732 Alunda
> Sweden
>
>
>

Re: CS>Mouth wash

[Dan Nave]

Those details may be in the archives, but I bet you can't find them...

On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 9:16 PM, Victor Cozzetto 
wrote:

> Same for me, but I'll elaborate on some details that others might find
> useful...
>
> I generally keep my CS/EIS away from everything else. CS is usually my
> very first gargle/rinse in the mornings, and I'll nebulize it or drink it
> at other times if I feel the need. But I will avoid my other dental care
> products (mouthwash, tooth powder or paste), and avoid using it immediately
> after kefir, yogurt, and other probiotics.
>
> CS/EIS is absorbed (or neutralized) quickly, so it is not difficult to
> manage the timings. It is usually the first thing I do, unless I am doing
> Beck protocol (blood electrification, pulsing), in which case I do it after
> those activities. I'm guessing you would do the same for Rife(?)
>
> However, there are other times when I intentionally mix CS/EIS. I liked
> the idea of using CS with my toothpowder (clay, baking soda, turmeric,
> salt) because I probably still get some benefit from the CS. The key point
> here is that I would still be consuming CS in some other ways to ensure
> that I am reaping its full benefits.
>
> Then there are other special situations/protocols where we take CS with
> MSM, drink a solution of baking soda before consuming CS, consuming it
> mixed in aloe vera juice, etc. You can find details on those protocols in
> the archives.
>
> But yea, as Dr. Sylver said, I would keep the salt and EIS gargling
> separate.
>
> Hope that helps.
> Victor
>
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 8:00 AM, Nenah Sylver 
> wrote:
>
>> Carlos wrote: A relative of my friend uses daily at his home sea water,
>> preparing an isotonic solution with it in order to drink it, mouthwash,
>> gargle and other purposes. He is very much interested in finding out if
>> there is any incovenient in mixing EIS and Isotonic Sea Water for tose
>> purposes. Would there be a reaction producing some type of salts that would
>> destroy the bactericidal efect of EIS?
>>
>> ===
>>
>> There might be a reaction between the salts and the EIS, which is why you
>> don’t use salt to make the EIS.
>>
>>
>>
>> However. . . you could first do a salt gargle, and then gargle with the
>> EIS.
>>
>>
>>
>> Nenah Sylver, PhD
>>
>> author, *The Rife Handbook*
>>
>> *of Frequency Therapy and Holistic Health*
>>
>> now in all formats: hardcover, ebook for Mac, Kindle, iPad, Android
>>
>> *DVDs of 2016 Rife and Electromedicine Conference Available NOW*
>>
>> *www.nenahsylver.com *
>>
>>
>>
>
>

CS>C-60 Buckminsterfullerene used for health and longevity

[Dan Nave]

Has anyone heard of, or used, C-60 Buckminsterfullerene
suspended in olive oil?

There are some pretty interesting articles suggesting that
it might be useful for health and longevity.  One rat study
showed that it increased rat lifetime by 90%.

There are differing ideas relative to the health promoting vs
possible toxicity of C-60.

Re: CS>Borax help plz

[Dan Nave]

Probably, if you want to pay that much.


On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 1:03 PM, Paul Steel <pste...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> great info
>
> would take 1 of these 3 times a day work just as well?
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Truth-Nutraceuticals-BORON-Structural-Support/dp/
> B07175T2DG/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?s=hpc=UTF8=1517425208=
> 1-2-spons=boron+supplement=1
>
> thx again
>
>
> On Tuesday, January 30, 2018, 5:54:57 PM EST, Dan Nave <
> bhangcha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Borax is not laundry detergent.  It is often used as a laundry additive,
> meaning that you can use it along with your detergent to get your clothes
> cleaner.  This is because of the properties of borax.
>
> 20 Mule Team Borax, which probably says Natural Laundry Booster on the
> side (because that is what people usually use it for) is what you want.
> (Do not use Boraxo, which has soap added.)  It is made up of boron, sodium,
> and water.  Borax is about 11% boron by weight, so if you want 10mg boron,
> you would take approximately 100mg  of borax.  That is 1/10th of a gram.
> Most boron supplements are 3 mg, which I think is too little.  Rex Newnham
> recommended 10mg.  A lot of people like to wet the end of their little
> finger and dip it into the borax powder up to the first joint.  Whatever
> sticks is what they take (with water).Like a pinch of salt.  Some are
> recommending up to 1/4 teaspoon for specific therapy.  I wouldn't want to
> take that much.
>
> You can research boron and borax.  Borax is less toxic than salt, sodium
> chloride.
>
> Borax is used for arthritis and things like candida overgrowth.  See:
>
> <http://www.health-science-spirit.com/borax.htm>
>
> On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 3:10 PM, RaVen Sequoia <aslra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Dan,
> Do you mean that you can safely ingest Borax from the laundry detergent
> borax formula?
> How much does an adult can ingest daily for and what is it good for
> exactly?
>
> Kindly,
>
> RaVen
>
> On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 3:59 PM, Dan Nave <bhangcha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Borax is borax.  It should be sodium something-borate something-hydrate,
> meaning sodium, boron, and water molecules.  Just make sure there is
> nothing else added.
> 20 Mule Team Borax is what I use.
>
> Dan
>
> On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 10:09 AM, Paul S <pste...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I would like to take borax and have bought 2 brands to try
>
> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000 R4LONQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_ppFB Ab063GZS2
> <https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000R4LONQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_ppFBAb063GZS2>
>
> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B072 5921DN/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_roFB AbTC6FJG3
> <https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0725921DN/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_roFBAbTC6FJG3>
>
> The ingredients seem to be a little different. Any help would be awesome
>
> Thanks a lot
>
> Paul
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Quote: "Problems can become opportunities when the right people come
> together."
> -Robert South
>
>
>

Re: CS>Borax help plz

[Dan Nave]

Borax is not laundry detergent.  It is often used as a laundry additive,
meaning that you can use it along with your detergent to get your clothes
cleaner.  This is because of the properties of borax.

20 Mule Team Borax, which probably says Natural Laundry Booster on the side
(because that is what people usually use it for) is what you want.  (Do not
use Boraxo, which has soap added.)  It is made up of boron, sodium, and
water.  Borax is about 11% boron by weight, so if you want 10mg boron, you
would take approximately 100mg  of borax.  That is 1/10th of a gram.  Most
boron supplements are 3 mg, which I think is too little.  Rex Newnham
recommended 10mg.  A lot of people like to wet the end of their little
finger and dip it into the borax powder up to the first joint.  Whatever
sticks is what they take (with water).Like a pinch of salt.  Some are
recommending up to 1/4 teaspoon for specific therapy.  I wouldn't want to
take that much.

You can research boron and borax.  Borax is less toxic than salt, sodium
chloride.

Borax is used for arthritis and things like candida overgrowth.  See:

<http://www.health-science-spirit.com/borax.htm>

On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 3:10 PM, RaVen Sequoia <aslra...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Dan,
> Do you mean that you can safely ingest Borax from the laundry detergent
> borax formula?
> How much does an adult can ingest daily for and what is it good for
> exactly?
>
> Kindly,
>
> RaVen
>
> On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 3:59 PM, Dan Nave <bhangcha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Borax is borax.  It should be sodium something-borate something-hydrate,
>> meaning sodium, boron, and water molecules.  Just make sure there is
>> nothing else added.
>> 20 Mule Team Borax is what I use.
>>
>> Dan
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 10:09 AM, Paul S <pste...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I would like to take borax and have bought 2 brands to try
>>>
>>> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000R4LONQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_ppFBAb063GZS2
>>>
>>> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0725921DN/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_roFBAbTC6FJG3
>>>
>>> The ingredients seem to be a little different. Any help would be awesome
>>>
>>> Thanks a lot
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Quote: "Problems can become opportunities when the right people come
> together."
> -Robert South
>

Re: CS>Borax help plz

[Dan Nave]

Borax is borax.  It should be sodium something-borate something-hydrate,
meaning sodium, boron, and water molecules.  Just make sure there is
nothing else added.
20 Mule Team Borax is what I use.

Dan

On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 10:09 AM, Paul S  wrote:

> I would like to take borax and have bought 2 brands to try
>
> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000R4LONQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_ppFBAb063GZS2
>
> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0725921DN/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_roFBAbTC6FJG3
>
> The ingredients seem to be a little different. Any help would be awesome
>
> Thanks a lot
>
> Paul
>
> Sent from my iPad
>

Re: CS>Turapur and Clearly Filtered

[Dan Nave]

I think I said that sodium thiosulfate was a free radical scavenger.
Chlorine will dissipate naturally overnight from water in an uncovered
container.
Nothing wrong with taking magnesium oxide.
Dan

On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 1:00 PM, Sandee George  wrote:

> Hi Dan thanks for yours, I have used the prill beads for years and find
> them to work for me.I know that if one leaves the water open over night
> the chlorine is supposed to dissipate, I have to admit that in the mornings
> when I go to fill my glass jug from the gallon bottle which contains the
> prill beads, which I use the water from for every day use, I do not smell
> the chlorine so I am not worried about this.I take magnesium oxide
> every day as a supplement, which as you say is a radical scavenger, as well
> as keeping the ph of my body in balance, so all is well in my book - thanks
> for the time for the input it is appreciated.
> Peace, love, blessings, be happy always
> Sandee 
> Attitude is everything !!
> Producer of Colloidal Silver
> Eye drops & Topical Gel
> san...@spiceisle.com
>
>
>
>
>

Re: CS>Turapur and Clearly Filtered

[Dan Nave]

Prill beads are just magnesium oxide beads.  They may add some magnesium to
the water, but not do much else.  If you want magnesium, add some magnesium
chloride drops to your water.  Don't waste your money. Basically, they
won't clean or detox anything.

Chlorine will outgas from the water overnight if left uncovered. You can
also aerate it or bring it to a boil to remove the chlorine. Charcoal
filter systems should remove chlorine, but reverse osmosis systems must
have a chlorine removing filter to protect the RO membrane, so RO water is
probably good.

Chloramine is more difficult to remove.  There are some aquarium water
treatments that remove the chloramine and the resultant ammonia.  Some say
that ascorbic acid (vitamin C) will remove chlorine and chloramine.  The
ammonia is not really a problem for humans and many foods will neutralize
it.

If you can get past the statement that the EPA believes chlorinated water
to be safe to drink, this article gives a lot of information about chlorine
and chloramide in water.



Some aquarium water treatments contain sodium thiosulfate which can remove
both chlorine and chloramine.  Some people advocate taking sodium
thiosulfate orally as an antioxidant and free radical scavenger...

Check with your local water treatment plant and find out what sort of
chlorine they use.  They should be able to provide that info for you.

Dan


On Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at 7:34 PM, Deborah Gerard  wrote:

> Does the prill beads take chemicals out of water?
>
> TIADebbie
>
> On Saturday, October 7, 2017, 9:36:05 PM EDT, Sandee George <
> oha...@juno.com> wrote:
>
>
> Jean I have just gone and researched this filter or jug designed to filter
> chlorine etc., (Turapur) from tap water - without trying it, I cannot say
> anything good or bad, except that if it works let me know,  because as far
> as I am aware the only thing which will remove chlorine from water is
> distillation.   However my knowledge base may be outdated, have you ever
> tried the prill beads this is what I use if I cannot be bothered to distil
> the water which as you know removes everything out of the water, that is
> the good, bad and indifferent, that is the only way to get a  reading
> on water which is used for kidney dialysis as far as I know, however I am
> happy to be updated 
> Peace, love, blessings, hugs
> Sandee 
> Attitude is everything !!
> Producer of Colloidal Silver
> Eye drops & Topical Gel
> san...@spiceisle.com
>
>
>
>
>

CS>Earth Clinic true Colloidal Silver

[Dan Nave]

Any comments on these videos fro Earth Clinic regarding Colloidal and Ionic
Silver?  She sounds a bit strange, so you don't need to comment on that...

They recommend only true Colloidal Silver.  They make theirs, as shown in
these videos, by adding washing soda as an electrolyte and reducing to
colloidal with Karo syrup (both very diluted, of course).




Dan

Re: CS>Silver Iontopheresis: Antibiotics Replaced.

[Dan Nave]

Interesting.

On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 1:38 PM, Ron  wrote:

> As long as we are on elec lets add some silver.
> https://www.nexusmagazine.com/index.php?option=com_docman;
> task=cat_view=31=71
> Nexus Magazine - Scroll down a few to
> *Silver Iontopheresis: Antibiotics Replaced *You can view or download.
> Lotsa interesting artiicles as well.
> Ron
>
>

Re: CS>Silver Jewellery Tarnishing

[Dan Nave]

Sulfur will tarnish silver, things like MSM are sulfur compounds and might
contribute to it.  Body acid may also.

Dan

On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 11:04 AM, Rowena  wrote:

> My friend with post infection chronic fatigue etc has found her silver
> earrings tarnishing lately, and wonders what might  be the cause of that.
> Is it likely any particular acid or other chemical in her body might be
> causing this.
>
> Rowena
>
>
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Re: CS>To unsubscribe

[Dan Nave]

If you are on the Digest, you have to send your unsubscribe request to
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Re: CS>To unsubscribe

[Dan Nave]

Well stated, Tony.

It is important to leave the body of the email blank, and not have anything
added on by your phone or provider.

Maybe we should set up a 'Denial of Ignorance' attack whenever anyone sends
a 'Help, I can't unsubscribe' message,
where 20 or 30 people blitz the list with a copy of your post...

Dan

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Re: CS>CS eliminates gastrointestinal "bug"

[Dan Nave]

If dealing with candida, one should consider Borax (Boron) rather than CS
or turpentine.

Google:  The Borax Conspiracy

On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 10:33 AM, Aaron Gannon 
wrote:

> Interesting thread here with Nenah and Itguy.
>
> I'm curious, if when using probiotics and nanosilver to help deal with
> something like candida, do you think it's important to separate vitamins
> like vitamins C, aller-max and fulvic acid as well?
>
> Just trying to understand a daily schedule you may have heard about that
> acknowledges the importance of having (not having) an empty stomach/food in
> your stomach.
>
>
> On Wednesday, May 17, 2017, Nenah Sylver  wrote:
>
>> Itguy wrote: I believe we also need to be careful as there seems to be
>> some thought that CS over an extended period of time may damage the
>> intestines, specifically the flora and flora related to our immune system. 
>> Jim
>> Meissner passed away and was a well known Rife and CS expert, his
>> intestines were riddled with cancer and he was known to take CS every
>> morning. http://www.meissnerresearch.com/
>>
>>That's not to say I want to be implicated in spreading any type of
>> FUD or discouraging CS. I'm saying when dealing with something that can
>> impact the bacterial count in the body we should probably exercise some
>> caution or at least approach it carefully.
>>
>>
>>
>> =
>>
>> I completely agree with you that CS must be used prudently. If CS is
>> taken on an empty stomach, it will kill ALL bacteria in the gut, whether
>> friendly flora or foe flora. If CS is taken with food, it won’t have as
>> much of an effect (if any) on the friendly flora. I make sure to take
>> probiotics and CS hours apart of each other.
>>
>>
>>
>> As for someone who’s into holistic health who gets cancer and dies: I
>> believe that if it’s someone’s time to go, no matter what we do…it’s time.
>> But your mention of JM and the gut reminds me of how important the gut
>> flora is. Researchers even have a name for it: microbiome.
>>
>>
>>
>> Nenah
>>
>>
>>
>> Nenah Sylver, PhD
>>
>> author, *The Rife Handbook*
>>
>> *of Frequency Therapy and Holistic Health*
>>
>> now in all formats: hardcover, ebook for Mac, Kindle, iPad, Android
>>
>> *DVDs of 2016 Rife and Electromedicine Conference Available NOW*
>>
>> *www.nenahsylver.com *
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: CS>Black Salve

[Dan Nave]

Thanks for all the Black Salve information everyone!

Dan

On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 11:49 PM, Dan Nave <bhangcha...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Does anyone have recommendations for where to purchase Black Salve?
> What are the qualities of the Black Salve you recommend that make it
> different than any other one, if you know?
>
> Thanks,  Dan
>

CS>Tel Tofflemire

[Dan Nave]

In case you didn't see it on the Black Salve thread.

Tel died last year on Mar 3rd.  His QuailwoodHerbal
website is no longer operating.

CS>Black Salve

[Dan Nave]

Does anyone have recommendations for where to purchase Black Salve?
What are the qualities of the Black Salve you recommend that make it
different than any other one, if you know?

Thanks,  Dan

Re: CS>CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON WITH MY FORMULATION?

[Dan Nave]

What's your feeling about adding H2O2 to CS after it has aged a few days?

Dan

On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 8:05 AM, Ode Coyote 
wrote:

> Never never use salt in a batch of CS.
> H202 will boost the formation of silver 'particles' so much so that
> conductivity may never rise [no increase in current draw].
> Those silver particles have no charge and will eventually grow so large
> that they will settle out as shiny metal flakes, later oxidized by excess
> H2O2 into fuzzy black silver oxide balls and deep yellow liquid.
>
> If you want to keep using H2O2 while making CS, use 3 or less drops of 3%
> per quart
>
> Ode
>
> Ode
>
> On Sat, Mar 4, 2017 at 11:19 PM,  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> I am having a problem, that did not manifest before.
>> I have made colloidal silver before, 1 quart jar, distilled water, tsp of
>> h202, 18 volts dc.
>> I would see a gray cloud form in the jar, before...
>>
>> I started up again, but this time no gray cloud from the electrode.
>> ???
>> could it be the h202 is different in this case, can't think of anything
>> else.
>> If I put a pinch of salt I will get the cloud, but now all I get is o2
>> bubbles clustering on one electrode after
>> 40 minutes?
>>
>>What am I doing differently,
>> that I am not aware of, or is this better
>>now than before??
>>
>>  Glenda
>>
>
>

CS>An interesting article on the gallbladder and bile.

[Dan Nave]

An interesting article on the gallbladder and bile.  May be of interest to
those wanting to loose weight or those with thyroid issues...



"Congested bile is linked to a whole host of seemingly unrelated symptoms
including hormone dysfunction, hypothyroidism
, hot flashes,
constipation, depression, migraines, insomnia, dry skin, chronic fatigue,
yeast overgrowth, parasites—and the list goes on.

Finnish researchers found hypothyroidism is seven times more likely in
individuals with reduced bile flow. Release of bile triggers the release of
an enzyme that converts T4 into T3, the usable form of thyroid hormone.

Those who improve their bile enjoy a whopping 53 percent bump in
metabolism."

Re: CS>newbie question

[Dan Nave]

Something like this would be good.  This is from a good and reliable
supplier.  I'm sure there are other suppliers around as well with good
product, but this is the sort of colloidal silver that I would recommend.

Use about a Tablespoon at a time and gargle with it for strep throat.  Try
to keep it in the mouth/throat for as long as possible since it only works
when it is in contact with the bacteria, etc.  Swallow small amounts until
it is gone.

Do it every half hour for a while then every hour.  Next day, perhaps, do
something like 4 times.  There is no set protocol, use your judgement.

You could add 10% of DMSO to the CS just before you put it in your mouth so
it will penetrate better.


On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 11:57 AM, Aaron Gannon  wrote:

> Hi! I'm a newbie to the group. Two questions:
>
> 1. Someone I know has strep throat (resulting from a case of syphilis that
> has since been cured) and wants pure calloidal silver. What is the best
> dosage and where can it be purchased without fear of the product being low
> quality.
>
> 2. Is there a way to see an archive of topics discussed so I can learn
> more about calloidal silver. I'm very aware now the medical establishment
> has been hijacked by money and I'd like to see some conscious people's
> thoughts on calloidal silver as a remedy.
>
> Thank you!
> Aaron
>
>

Re: CS>newbie question

[Dan Nave]

The colloidal silver will probably never penetrate the pelvic bone.  I
doubt it would be effective.

Dan

On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 4:17 PM, Anita Thompson 
wrote:

> Hi
>
> My partner has recently been diagnosed with golden staph in the pelvic
> bone. He is on antibiotics, but I would like to treat him with colloidal
> silver. Any suggestions would be appreciated. I make my own silver and have
> been giving him 10 ml every few days for several months. Any reason this
> hasn't helped?
>
> Thanks Anita
> --
> *From:* Joe Huard 
> *Sent:* Friday, 2 December 2016 6:04:29 AM
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Subject:* Re: CS>newbie question
>
> Look in the archives for all older posts and colloidal silver has only 0ne
> "a".
>
> Joe
>
> On 2016-12-01 12:57 PM, Aaron Gannon wrote:
>
> Hi! I'm a newbie to the group. Two questions:
>
> 1. Someone I know has strep throat (resulting from a case of syphilis that
> has since been cured) and wants pure calloidal silver. What is the best
> dosage and where can it be purchased without fear of the product being low
> quality.
>
> 2. Is there a way to see an archive of topics discussed so I can learn
> more about calloidal silver. I'm very aware now the medical establishment
> has been hijacked by money and I'd like to see some conscious people's
> thoughts on calloidal silver as a remedy.
>
> Thank you!
> Aaron
>
>
> --
>  If a man is deep in the woods, with no woman around, and says something, is 
> he still wrong?
>
>

Re: CS> Fwd: An article on boron

[Dan Nave]

No, but the Silymarin, ALA, selenium protocol should help.


On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 12:51 AM, Deborah Gerard 
wrote:

> will it help with HepC?
>
>
> On Thursday, November 3, 2016 8:59 PM, Phil Morrison <
> philmorrison...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Boron is a major mineral in the regeneration
> of the heart meridian, defends heart, and helps conserve Magnesium.
>
> Boron also absorbs radiation and releases it without disturbing neutrons
> or protons in its nucleus (the only mineral not subject to change by
> radiation), and will not itself become radioactive.   For example, DNA is
> not altered by radiation when protected by adequate levels of Boron.
>
> Boron fuels deeper brain function enabling
> positive thoughts that go with pure and high ideals.   ADD/ADHD may be
> signs of Boron
> deficiency.
>
>
>
>
>

CS>Fwd: An article on Boron

[Dan Nave]

News in Nutrition


Boron, Mineral Surprise
by Dr John Whitcomb

Boron, Mineral Surprise

References: Science Direct, Wikipedia,

Ever heard of boron? Not a very common mineral in mammals. In fact, it's
considered an "ultra trace"
mineral. Produced by spallation and supernovae, it is not an abundant
mineral, but is present in
many soils in a trace level. There is no obvious known animal use for it as
making rats deficient
has been a challenge requiring ultra pure diets. Rats then get lousy skin
and fur. It's very light
in weight and makes extremely hard crystals, allowing it to be used as an
industrial abrasive and in
high tech magnets and super strong fibers.

Imagine my surprise when I find that it has a surprising role in humans. It
is one of the most
effective known tools to reduce sex hormone binding globulin. It also may
play a surprising role in
osteoporosis and arthritis. In parts of the world where intake of boron is
less than a mg a day, the
incidence of arthritis is 50-70%. In those parts of the world where boron
intake is 3-10 mg a day,
arthritis is around 0-10%. That's just epidemiology, and we don't have good
human studies with
arthritis.

We do have a study showing boron's effect on SHBG. SHBG is Sex Hormone
Binding Globulin. It is the
protein tasked with transporting estrogen and testosterone around the body.
Hormones are based on
cholesterol, a fat, and fat doesn't dissolve in water. SHBG allows them to
be transported in water.
It binds about 99% of the hormones, leading only 1% in the bioavailable or
free form. The way birth
control pills work is to dramatically increase SHBG, thereby binding
virtually all free estrogen and
testosterone. The problem arises when you stop the pill, SHBG may not go
back to normal.

In fact, SHBG's continuing to be high may be a problem with men too.
Continued high SHBG leads to
very tiny levels of free testosterone. Lowering SHBG may be part of how we
raise the level of the
hormones we depend on for good health, testosterone and estrogen.

In this study, 10 mg of boron was given to eight healthy men for a week. In
that short time period,
their blood boron increased and their free testosterone increased
dramatically by 29%, mostly due to
a drop in SHBG. Interestingly enough, CRP, the main mediator of
inflammation, dropped dramatically
as well. This is a terribly short study, with a tiny number of
participants, but it opens a door to
think about the benefit of boron. Then, I look at the ingredients in my
most effective bone builder,
Pro Bono, and I see 2.5 mg of boron daily. The literature on boron and
calcium and bone metabolism
is thin, but it suggests we do better when we have more.

www. What will work for me. I had no idea that boron played such a big role
in general health. I'm
sort of fascinated that this arcane, micro mineral might be so useful. I'm
determined to follow this
further. Between lowering CRP, lowering SHBG, raising testosterone,
lowering calcium excretion, we
might have a whole host of reasons to consider this spallated mineral to be
a little superstar. And
it's fun to learn the term spallation. I'm adding boron to my list of
minerals to use for arthritis,
inflammation and SHBG management.

Pop Quiz

1. Boron is a critical element for human health. T or F

Trick question. We don't really know. It's a micro trace element with no
known mechanism of action
but with many small studies showing beneficial effects.

2. Sex Hormone Binding Globulin rises dramatically with boron. T or F

False. It drops. That is good. Make for higher free testosterone.

3. Birth Control Pills may lead to a permanent elevation of SHBG. T or F

True. That leads to less muscle, less immune function, less libido.

4. Spallation is the creation of minerals by cosmic rays. T or F

True. Boron, beryllium, aluminium, neon, iodine among others are formed
this way. Also describes how
to make flint arrowheads.

5. A good dose of boron is well provided in most vitamins. T or F

Well, we don't know. Boron is included at 150 mcg in Centrum. May not be
enough for optimal effects.
Dr John Whitcomb | October 31, 2016 at 12:15 pm

CS>test

[Dan Nave]

test

Re: CS>Re: Hep C

[Dan Nave]

If you are going to try something like this, you have to be extremely
careful to limit the current.  You could kill yourself...

On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 9:56 AM, Joe Huard  wrote:

> At least a year ago, but no one has tried it. Perhaps no one in baby
> grand's group has Hep C.
>
> Joe
>
> On 2016-08-04 10:52 PM, Robert Larson wrote:
>
> Didn't "baby grand" come up with that a few years ago?  any wave of
> miraculous results ?
> On Aug 3, 2016 1:11 PM, Joe Huard 
>  wrote:
>
> May I interject a comment here? I am also a member of the
> microelectricitygermkiller group and Bob the list owner has devised a
> method to use the godzilla on Hep C via an enema attachment. He has it all
> posted in the files section, and has requested people who have Hep C to try
> it and post their results.
>
> Joe
>
> On 2016-08-03 2:38 PM, bobLists wrote:
>
> they certainly don't .   their's no preferred current path for electricity
> through it.
> using CS soaked sponge pads over liver area both sides does conduct some,
> but what, diffusely thropugh the whole body?  get beneath the skin it's all
> conductive to varying extents
>
> --
> *From:* Ron [mailto:ron@gmail.com ]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 3, 2016 10:15 AM
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Subject:* Re: CS>Re: Hep C
>
> You are likely right in that those methods probably don't reach the liver
> either.
>
> Ron
>
> On 8/3/2016 9:04 AM, Robert Larson wrote:
>
> In my experience messing with zappers microcurrent using handholds foot
> bath arteries on the wrist veins on the wrist: worthless for Hepatitis C
> if it is cleaning blood I never noticed a thing.  on the other hand CS
> very definitely has a profound beneficial effect on symptom management of
> hepatitis C.
> On Aug 3, 2016 06:59, Ron   wrote:
>
> Good idea.
>
> This is simply using a 12 volt battery to purify the blood. Very effective
> I believe.
>  https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/microelectricitygermkiller/info
>
> Ron
>
> On 8/2/2016 3:07 PM, Shirley Reed wrote:
>
> It would not hurt to look into the zapper for this ailment and any other,
> imho.  don croft makes one that is inexpensive and super easy to use.  I do
> not sell this or anything else,  but have used one for 15 years and it has
> relieved the pain of osteoarthritis in my hands and has taken down swelling
> and redness during that time.  My neighbor has had at least 2 surgeries and
> now has paddles for hands and still hurts all the time. I told her about it
> three times and then saw it was no use.  Best wishes,  pj
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Re: CS>help for hep c

[Dan Nave]

Try taking Borax (boron) for arthritis in the hands.  It works great.  I
have personally seen 6 or 7 people that this has worked for, including
myself.  I use 20 Mule Team Borax, as much as will stick to your damp
little finger to the first joint and dissolve in 1/2 cup water.  It only
takes a week or so of taking it for me, I can tell the difference that
fast.  Then I stop taking it until I notice any pain when clenching my
fists such as when you try to squeeze out a sponge, hard, with one hand,
etc.  Worked for me, my brother, and other people at work. Borax is less
toxic than salt, so you can get an idea of how much you can use.  Also, I
got faster results with the Borax as indicated above than when trying to
take it as a 3mg Boron supplement (purchased).
Dan

On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 5:07 PM, Shirley Reed 
wrote:

> It would not hurt to look into the zapper for this ailment and any other,
> imho.  don croft makes one that is inexpensive and super easy to use.  I do
> not sell this or anything else,  but have used one for 15 years and it has
> relieved the pain of osteoarthritis in my hands and has taken down swelling
> and redness during that time.  My neighbor has had at least 2 surgeries and
> now has paddles for hands and still hurts all the time. I told her about it
> three times and then saw it was no use.  Best wishes,  pj
>

Re: CS>Hep C

[Dan Nave]

<
http://holisticprimarycare.net/topics/topics-o-z/vitamins-a-supplements/380-triple-antioxidant-combo-improves-outcomes-in-patients-who-have-hepatitis-c.html
>

This article indicates "A triple antioxidant protocol combining
alpha-lipoic acid, selenium, and silymarin can improve outcomes in patients
with hepatitis C, in some cases averting the need for conventional
interferon/ribavirin treatment or liver transplant, said Burt Berkson, MD,
at the annual meeting of the American Holistic Medical Association."

The protocol and dosages are indicated in the article.  Also, it is not
overly expensive if you get the ingredients at a decent supplier.

Dan

On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 10:46 AM, Ron  wrote:

> On 7/16/2016 7:53 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote:
> > Can anyone comment for me about Hep Cif just found out I have it and
> I have been taking CS for ten years...I have no symptoms and had testing
> done yesterday and see doc for the first time Tuesday...I was selling my
> blood plasma and they did routine testing and discovered it.
> > Any information you can give me on how to go after this naturally would
> be appreciated I refuse to take any of Big Pharmacy drugs.
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > Debbie
>
> A Google " vitamin C for Hep C " Looks promising.
> 1st hit on my search was http://www.doctoryourself.com/hepatitis.html
>
> Good luck.
> Ron
>
>
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CS>Lyme Disease Article

[Dan Nave]

<
http://www.mvtimes.com/2016/07/13/visiting-physician-sheds-new-light-lyme-disease/
>

You may find this Lyme Disease article interesting.

Dan

Re: CS>Non Stick Cookware

[Dan Nave]

When I bought my cast iron skillet several years back I noticed that the
surface was quite uneven, not flat and smooth like you would expect.  After
using it seems pretty flat but I wondered if it would have been better if
the frying surface was buffed down to make it flatter before seasoning.  A
Anybody do this?


On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 10:16 AM,  wrote:

> Thanks, Cassidy!
>
> The link was helpful.   The skillet I seasoned yesterday turned out sticky
> and the link u gave told me why, too much lard.   So now I'm doing the
> smaller skillet with less lard.   Practice makes perfect.
>
> Thank both u and Lola for all the input!
>
> Appreciatively,
>
> Gail
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jun 4, 2016, at 6:35 AM, cassidy  wrote:
> >
> > Gail,
> > I think that is a good idea... seems I saw that somewhere also... it
> just allows the oil to drip onto your baking sheet or foil lined rack.  The
> thing about iron skillets is you can't really mess up ... unless you wash
> with soap or leave it sitting in water.   and IF you do mess up - all you
> gotta do is re-season it.  I abused my terribly as a newly wed and it has
> survived beautifully after years of abuse - finally I learned what to do.
> > This is a good link:
> https://www.lodgemfg.com/use-and-care/seasoned-cast-iron-use-and-care.asp
> > I seasoned mine for several hours .. that link says just one ?? :/
> good luck and enjoy  :)
> >
> >> On 6/3/2016 10:55 AM, wanda85...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >> Cassidy,
> >>
> >> The skillets are old/used and don't even know where I got them, maybe a
> yard sale or something.
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Re: CS>Re: Bronchitis probably

[Dan Nave]

You might want to try something like this which is more of a tonic and
immune stimulant than some of the other things suggested which are,
frankly, more like alopathic medicine where you are trying to kill a bug
with silver or essential oil, etc.



Dan

On Sat, Mar 26, 2016 at 9:26 PM, Gmail  wrote:

> Forgot -tablespoon of my honey every two hours, and himalayan salt sniffer
> frequently.
>
>
> The Austrian School outlook is best seen in the response of Ludwig von
> Mises to this question: “Professor Mises, if you were given complete power
> over the economy, what would you do?” His one-word answer defines the
> Austrian School: “Resign.”
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mar 26, 2016, at 10:23 PM, Gmail  wrote:
>
> Nothing seems to work. Frequent dry cough. No temperature.
> Olive leaf extract, aged garlic extract, vapor rub on neck and chest,
> vitamin c, lobelia, tea tree oil in steam bath, colloidal silver in
> nebulizer, cs in neti pot,- all are being used- not all at once but
> different times of the day for a week. Any suggestions?
> I am in considerable distress. Oximeter reads 93.
> Could possibly be related to concurrent hay fever symptoms?
> Could be environmental? Chemtrails? Tilling the organic garden a week ago?
> Would a hyperbaric chamber help?
> HELP!
>
> The Austrian School outlook is best seen in the response of Ludwig von
> Mises to this question: “Professor Mises, if you were given complete power
> over the economy, what would you do?” His one-word answer defines the
> Austrian School: “Resign.”
>
>
>
>
>

Re: CS>Bronchitis probably

[Dan Nave]

months

On Sat, Mar 26, 2016 at 9:35 PM, Dan Nave <bhangcha...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I have had good results from something like this which wouldn't go away
> for month by doing several day-long water fasts.  Nothing would touch it
> until I did this, although I was only doing it for weight control (5-2
> diet).
>
> On Sat, Mar 26, 2016 at 9:23 PM, Gmail <ironguard...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Nothing seems to work. Frequent dry cough. No temperature.
>> Olive leaf extract, aged garlic extract, vapor rub on neck and chest,
>> vitamin c, lobelia, tea tree oil in steam bath, colloidal silver in
>> nebulizer, cs in neti pot,- all are being used- not all at once but
>> different times of the day for a week. Any suggestions?
>> I am in considerable distress. Oximeter reads 93.
>> Could possibly be related to concurrent hay fever symptoms?
>> Could be environmental? Chemtrails? Tilling the organic garden a week ago?
>> Would a hyperbaric chamber help?
>> HELP!
>>
>> The Austrian School outlook is best seen in the response of Ludwig von
>> Mises to this question: “Professor Mises, if you were given complete power
>> over the economy, what would you do?” His one-word answer defines the
>> Austrian School: “Resign.”
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: CS>Bronchitis probably

[Dan Nave]

I have had good results from something like this which wouldn't go away for
month by doing several day-long water fasts.  Nothing would touch it until
I did this, although I was only doing it for weight control (5-2 diet).

On Sat, Mar 26, 2016 at 9:23 PM, Gmail  wrote:

> Nothing seems to work. Frequent dry cough. No temperature.
> Olive leaf extract, aged garlic extract, vapor rub on neck and chest,
> vitamin c, lobelia, tea tree oil in steam bath, colloidal silver in
> nebulizer, cs in neti pot,- all are being used- not all at once but
> different times of the day for a week. Any suggestions?
> I am in considerable distress. Oximeter reads 93.
> Could possibly be related to concurrent hay fever symptoms?
> Could be environmental? Chemtrails? Tilling the organic garden a week ago?
> Would a hyperbaric chamber help?
> HELP!
>
> The Austrian School outlook is best seen in the response of Ludwig von
> Mises to this question: “Professor Mises, if you were given complete power
> over the economy, what would you do?” His one-word answer defines the
> Austrian School: “Resign.”
>
>
>
>
>

Re: CS>Zika virus article

[Dan Nave]

http://www.pri.org/stories/2016-02-16/no-we-dont-know-if-zika-causing-microcephaly-we-have-no-evidence-its-pesticides

On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 12:31 AM, Dan Nave <bhangcha...@gmail.com> wrote:

> "Another theory Diamond and Fremont want to explore is whether
> pre-existing immunity to dengue in South America may make Zika infections
> more severe and account for birth defects and other complications. It’s
> possible that antibodies against dengue can cross-react with Zika and make
> Zika infections worse, although there’s no data yet to support this idea.
>
> "However, it is known that a prior infection with dengue puts people at
> risk of more severe disease if they are infected a second time with a
> slightly different subtype of the virus.
>
> "“In dengue, if you’re infected with one serotype of the virus and later
> you’re infected with another serotype, you can get worse disease because
> there is cross-reactivity – something we call antibody-dependent
> enhancement,” Diamond explained. “The question is, for people infected with
> dengue, can their antibodies cross-react and make Zika worse? And
> alternatively, does Zika make dengue worse? This is not the major issue
> now, but as the epidemic spreads, Zika could impact dengue. We don’t know
> yet, but these are fundamental basic questions that we want to answer.”
>
> "Dengue is estimated to be responsible for 390 million infections annually
> across the globe, according to the World Health Organization. In South
> America, 90 percent of people are infected with dengue by age 12, compared
> with a much smaller percentage of people in Africa, where dengue infections
> are more sporadic. Researchers have not seen similar complications from
> Zika infections in Africa.
>
> "The researchers also acknowledge that microcephaly and Guillian-Barré may
> not be related to Zika virus at all. But the mouse models and other tools
> they have developed provide an opportunity to explore critical questions
> about the virus."
>
> https://medicine.wustl.edu/news/scientists-team-up-to-fight-zika/
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 4:29 PM, Dan Nave <bhangcha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> <
>> http://medicalxpress.com/news/2016-03-zika-virus-infects-human-neural.html
>> >
>>
>
>

Re: CS>Zika virus article

[Dan Nave]

"Another theory Diamond and Fremont want to explore is whether pre-existing
immunity to dengue in South America may make Zika infections more severe
and account for birth defects and other complications. It’s possible that
antibodies against dengue can cross-react with Zika and make Zika
infections worse, although there’s no data yet to support this idea.

"However, it is known that a prior infection with dengue puts people at
risk of more severe disease if they are infected a second time with a
slightly different subtype of the virus.

"“In dengue, if you’re infected with one serotype of the virus and later
you’re infected with another serotype, you can get worse disease because
there is cross-reactivity – something we call antibody-dependent
enhancement,” Diamond explained. “The question is, for people infected with
dengue, can their antibodies cross-react and make Zika worse? And
alternatively, does Zika make dengue worse? This is not the major issue
now, but as the epidemic spreads, Zika could impact dengue. We don’t know
yet, but these are fundamental basic questions that we want to answer.”

"Dengue is estimated to be responsible for 390 million infections annually
across the globe, according to the World Health Organization. In South
America, 90 percent of people are infected with dengue by age 12, compared
with a much smaller percentage of people in Africa, where dengue infections
are more sporadic. Researchers have not seen similar complications from
Zika infections in Africa.

"The researchers also acknowledge that microcephaly and Guillian-Barré may
not be related to Zika virus at all. But the mouse models and other tools
they have developed provide an opportunity to explore critical questions
about the virus."

https://medicine.wustl.edu/news/scientists-team-up-to-fight-zika/



On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 4:29 PM, Dan Nave <bhangcha...@gmail.com> wrote:

> <
> http://medicalxpress.com/news/2016-03-zika-virus-infects-human-neural.html
> >
>

CS>Zika virus article

[Dan Nave]

Re: CS>Just to update my bleed.

[Dan Nave]

This may be stating the obvious, but if you are having bleeding issues,
definitely stay away from aspirin.  There are some herbs that thin the
blood as well.

On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 6:16 AM, Neville  wrote:

> Because we are among ourselves here, I want to put an update, seeing has
> September my episode.
>
>
> People can believe this or not, I am not phased by that at all, I have my
> own beliefs, as so does other people.
>
>
> My MRI in September means I had a fairly comprehensive full service and
> tune up.
>
>
> They were concentrating on any abnormality, cancer etc.  The MRI they shot
> some hot stuff through my vein and sent it throughout, I believe, my body
> system?
>
>
> My heart was perfect, no blocking or clogging arteries, anywhere else
> either seemingly.
>
>
> My lungs were is good condition, no shadows or abnormalities, even though
> I have been a smoker for near on 50 years.
>
>
> My liver was good.
>
>
> My kidneys were good.
>
>
> My bladder was good.
>
>
> My Prostrate contained 56cc, which is a little larger than normal, but
> nothing to concern about with my age apparently, maybe it need to be looked
> at someday, who knows?
>
>
> My Antigens showed my blood is damn clean, even a Doctor remarked on how
> good my blood was...Surprise, surprise to someone, but not me .
>
>
> There was more I cannot forget at the moment, but the above is enough.  I
> chucked out the Epilepsy tablet after a couple of weeks, it was doing my
> head in.  That drug only in perhaps a seizure, of which I had none.  I
> recently another tiny tablet, breaking in half each day, I also binned, the
> other 3 days ago.  This is for fluid or something or other in the ankles or
> whatever.  I am only on one tablet now, and I intend to bin that one as
> soon after my MRI in February, or perhaps earlier if I have a mind to.  The
> Medico’s tell me nothing, all they want to do is push drugs into people, I
> am not that type of person, I have always said, I would rather die by my
> own hands than someone else’s hands, I am not a slab of meat to be
> processed and hand over to the Pharmaceuticals, only if emergency, which I
> guess was with me earlier.
>
>
> I inquired on this List many, many years ago sooner after my interest in
> EIS, asking if anyone knew of our silver stuff could clear arteries etc, to
> clear them from cholesterol or whatever, nobody could answer my question.
> Well, I am going to answer my own question right now here, this our silver
> absolutely prevented my blood stream clogged of cholesterol or whatever
> else may clog my arteries.  I put nothing by my mouth unless it is food or
> liquid.  There many reasons for what I say about EIS, but todays life
> society and processed food stuffs would must surely have done something to
> me by now?
>
>
> Remember, after 4 hours in a hospital, I discharged myself to go home to
> have a sleep, advice I ignored for me to stay there in case I died during
> the night, my BP was 220 when I was admitted in that afternoon.  I just
> said “Too bad, everybody has to die someday”, and I signed the form and
> went home to bed.  I went to a Doc the next morning and was re-admitted to
> hospital, but of course I was not in a fit state by then, but I was still
> alive, hence at midnight was flown to a City Hospital to try to stabilise
> my pressure in case I needed urgent surgery, which was none.  At this point
> I am still walking around and talking, nothing in my life has changed,
> except a very minor speech impediment at sometimes, about .9%, nearly 100%
> in another 6 months perhaps I'll be fine , but I was a
> numpty for a few weeks.  My have done, and still do, my own Rehab.
> Those therapist people were for me are for quitters .  Google and other
> things have been my "Therapist" and "Rehab".  Although, I have only went to
> Google three times to help me write this, far fewer than a few weeks ago
> that's for sure.
>
>
> My bleed was just near my left ear, which they were reluctant to do
> surgery due to possible complications, and remarked being a quite unusual
> place for a bleed.  Many of not reasons explained, but my bleed stopped in
> 24 hours, or maybe earlier?  The bleed was 39x35x28mm, not large I suppose,
> but then I have no idea of a bleed anyway, but enough to give me some
> trouble, even today with words and spelling and sentences.  I cannot find
> answers to many of my questions, as much as answers of why strokes occur,
> and of why some people have a rapid recovery?  Many answers of which cannot
> be determined, apparently?
>
>
> But I am certain of one thing, going on the MRI, this silver stuff seems
> to have kept my body in pretty good condition over the last 10 or so years
> I’ve been ingesting my every morning silver regime — and I am not blue
> either.  Could my silver helped my rapid bleed stop?  Who knows?  Did I not
> have a more serious stroke? I have no idea?
>
>
> Maybe one day when I am dead, others me read this 

Re: CS>ot: Baker's Cyst

[Dan Nave]

You may want to try some hot castor oil packs.

On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 8:14 AM, craehow...@juno.com 
wrote:

> Does anyone have any experience with Baker's Cyst?   My 75 year old
> neighbor has been sufferin with it for a few weeks; her doctor has not be
> able to remedy the condition.
> It is affecting her right leg behind the knee and is extremely painful.
> Can anyone suggest something?
>
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Re: CS>Fwd: Any thoughts on this article

[Dan Nave]

Yes.  Take orally and topically.  You can also use a Zapper or Godzilla
device for this.  If she has pox you can soften them with castor oil.

Dan

On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 2:06 PM, RaVen  wrote:

> Does CS help people who suffer from shingles?
> My mother just got it a few days ago.
>
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Re: CS>Fwd: Any thoughts on this article

[Dan Nave]

Or is it pocks?...

On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 9:22 PM, Dan Nave <bhangcha...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes.  Take orally and topically.  You can also use a Zapper or Godzilla
> device for this.  If she has pox you can soften them with castor oil.
>
> Dan
>
> On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 2:06 PM, RaVen <aslra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Does CS help people who suffer from shingles?
>> My mother just got it a few days ago.
>>
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Re: CS>Info on colloidal copper

[Dan Nave]

What were the particulars of your brew method for Colloidal Copper?

On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 10:20 AM, Deborah Gerard 
wrote:

> I live in Michigan. Here in Grand Rapids there is a Lacks Institute big
> cancer treatment ctr...we also have the Medical Mile. I am have never heard
> of  cancer pt's having high copper levels and chelating them out fighting
> cancer...you would think the media here would be on it and sharing the fact
> of the new way to fight cancer...I don't know if I trust what is being
> published about copper overload so much was written years ago about the
> benefits of copper fighting tumors and cancer somebody at work here giving
> copper a bad name?
> Made colloidal copper yesterday and after four hours got a great laser
> beam thru the product. Spraying face and throat area couple times a day.
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, September 16, 2015 1:35 AM, Bill Kingsbury <
> b.b...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> "Nano Colloidal Copper Holds The Key To Beautiful Younger Looking Skin"
>
>
> http://www.investigatorsreport.com/nano-colloidal-copper-holds-the-key-to-beautiful-younger-looking-skin.html
>
>
> "Colloidal Copper: The Amazing Mineral For Healthy Youthful Skin"
>
>
> http://www.investigatorsreport.com/colloidal-copper-the-amazing-mineral-for-healthy-youthful-skin.html
>
> Video (7:27) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WexGU7o_sxw
>
>
>
>
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Re: CSelectromagnetic instruments

[Dan Nave]

Currently, typical MRI utilizes static field with strengths of with
strengths of 0.5 to 3 Tesla 0.5 to 3 Tesla (FDA guideline is max 4 T for
infants  1 month guideline is max 4 T for infants  1 month and 8 T for
others) and 8 T for others) „ 1 Tesla = 10,000 Gauss 1 Tesla = 10,000 Gauss
„Magnetic field strength of the earth ~ 0.5 Magnetic field strength of the
earth ~ 0.5 Gauss

There has been mention of dizziness and There has been mention of
dizziness and disorientation of personnel and patients as disorientation of
personnel and patients as they move through a field of 4T or higher. they
move through a field of 4T or higher.

There is There is no clinically significant effect no clinically
significant effect on heart rate, systolic and diastolic blood heart rate,
systolic and diastolic blood pressure, respiratory rate, core body
pressure, respiratory rate, core body temperature for static fields up to 8
T. temperature for static fields up to 8 T.

Biological Effect of Biological Effect of Time -varying Magnetic Field (3)
varying Magnetic Field (3) „ The primary concerns with regard to time The
primary concerns with regard to time - varying fields are varying fields
are cardiac fibrillation cardiac fibrillation and brain stimulation brain
stimulation. „ But study showed that But study showed that the risk of
cardiac the risk of cardiac stimulation stimulation in present day MRI
gradient in present day MRI gradient fields is negligible. fields is
negligible.

etc...

quotes from 
https://www.temple.edu/medicine/departments_centers/clinical_departments/documents/MRI-safety-quiz.pdf


so, I think the original comment is incorrect...

On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 4:06 PM, evelyn evesnew...@gmail.com wrote:

 I wanted to csution everyone about electromagnetic instruments.  Firstly,
 they are unsafe near the head - especilly for anyone with any kind of
 seizure disorder , alzheimers, or elecrical sensitivity.  Secondly, I saw
 on a website related to Dr. Beck's protocol an instrument for producing
 magnetic fields.  It said it produced mag fields in the strength of
 hundreds of gauss.  This is outrageous and could cause death in some
 people.   5 gauss for short exposures is a standard even OSHA uses. as a
 maximum.  Hundreds of gauss is something the whole neighborhood could
 feel.

Re: CSTerminator

[Dan Nave]

Current doesn't penetrate or travel evenly in all parts of the body.  Those
parts that carry the current should be effected.
Probably is effective in the blood and wherever the blood flows to.  It is
pretty evident that it doesn't cause a major die-off
of intestinal bacteria like antibiotics might, or we would suffer similar
consequences after zapping.

On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 2:34 AM, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote:

 How do they kill parasites then? I understood these lodge in the
 intestines and organs.  Just curiousDee

 Sent from my iPad

 On 23 Aug 2015, at 19:42, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote:

 No, they don't seem to penetrate the intestine.

 On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 4:18 AM, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote:

 One thing worries me about these devices, could they destroy the
 microbiome?  Dee

 Sent from my iPad

  On 23 Aug 2015, at 03:35, Steve Levine scl...@cox.net wrote:
 
  As far as I can tell this is the best deal on the T2 Zapper:
 http://wolfcreekranch1.tripod.com/terminator_zapper.html
 
  $115 and free shipping.
 
  Steve
   evelyn evesnew...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  =
  Regarding electromagnetic devices, I want to comment on a device I saw
  linked to Dr. Bob Beck's website - a manufacturer of devices I beleive
 in
  Canada.
  For certain electromagnetic stimulation can help with biological issues
  because we function on electromagnetic signals, especially from the
 nervous
  system. However, one of the devices gave out an etremely strong magnetic
  field (something like hundreds or thouisands of gauss.) This is
 dangerous.
  Even the conservative OSHA limits are only a few gauss for short
 periods.
 
  On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 6:42 PM, BW jennelle8...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Where can one get a Terminator?
  Thanks
  Bonnie
  On Aug 22, 2015 7:42 AM, Shirley Reed directcurren...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
 
  The Terminator is a wonderful device.  Fifteen years ago
 osteoarthritis
  was beginning to affect both of my hands rather badly.  After a few
 days of
  use, the extremely painful, red and very hot Heberden's nodes on the
 right
  index finger had lost all the redness and heat and most of the pain
 and
  tenderness.  The nodes remain to this day but are very small and have
 no
  tenderness.  If I forget to change batteries they will start getting
 tender
  again.  The first hour I used the T, the pain of a heel spur
 completely
  disappeared.  The spur is still there I think, but no pain at all.
 Also,
  at that time a son had acne and it was all gone in three days.  I
 have a
  couple of T's because I loan them out occasionally.  It is possible
 that
  one man I loaned one to has avoided amputation of both legs because
 of its
  use.  His doc's told them they thought he had bone marrow dying in
 both
  legs.  Great pain and unable to walk .  In three days time on the T.
 his
  pain was
  over 50% gone.  A couple more days and no wheelchair, no crutches and
  shortly after that not even a cane.  No pain of course either.   He's
 in
  great shape now.  It can take away extreme fatigue in a hurry too.  I
 hope
  to never be without a T.  At nearly 75 yrs., I use it very regularly
 though
  not round the clock.   Dollar store batteries work just fine and at
 .50
  cents apeice, are a great bargain.  They are a little fat, but a small
  piece of tape keeps the top on well.   Best wishes, pj or dc
 
 
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Re: CSTerminator

[Dan Nave]

No, they don't seem to penetrate the intestine.

On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 4:18 AM, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote:

 One thing worries me about these devices, could they destroy the
 microbiome?  Dee

 Sent from my iPad

  On 23 Aug 2015, at 03:35, Steve Levine scl...@cox.net wrote:
 
  As far as I can tell this is the best deal on the T2 Zapper:
 http://wolfcreekranch1.tripod.com/terminator_zapper.html
 
  $115 and free shipping.
 
  Steve
   evelyn evesnew...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  =
  Regarding electromagnetic devices, I want to comment on a device I saw
  linked to Dr. Bob Beck's website - a manufacturer of devices I beleive in
  Canada.
  For certain electromagnetic stimulation can help with biological issues
  because we function on electromagnetic signals, especially from the
 nervous
  system. However, one of the devices gave out an etremely strong magnetic
  field (something like hundreds or thouisands of gauss.) This is
 dangerous.
  Even the conservative OSHA limits are only a few gauss for short periods.
 
  On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 6:42 PM, BW jennelle8...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Where can one get a Terminator?
  Thanks
  Bonnie
  On Aug 22, 2015 7:42 AM, Shirley Reed directcurren...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
 
  The Terminator is a wonderful device.  Fifteen years ago osteoarthritis
  was beginning to affect both of my hands rather badly.  After a few
 days of
  use, the extremely painful, red and very hot Heberden's nodes on the
 right
  index finger had lost all the redness and heat and most of the pain and
  tenderness.  The nodes remain to this day but are very small and have
 no
  tenderness.  If I forget to change batteries they will start getting
 tender
  again.  The first hour I used the T, the pain of a heel spur completely
  disappeared.  The spur is still there I think, but no pain at all.
 Also,
  at that time a son had acne and it was all gone in three days.  I have
 a
  couple of T's because I loan them out occasionally.  It is possible
 that
  one man I loaned one to has avoided amputation of both legs because of
 its
  use.  His doc's told them they thought he had bone marrow dying in both
  legs.  Great pain and unable to walk .  In three days time on the T.
 his
  pain was
  over 50% gone.  A couple more days and no wheelchair, no crutches and
  shortly after that not even a cane.  No pain of course either.   He's
 in
  great shape now.  It can take away extreme fatigue in a hurry too.  I
 hope
  to never be without a T.  At nearly 75 yrs., I use it very regularly
 though
  not round the clock.   Dollar store batteries work just fine and at .50
  cents apeice, are a great bargain.  They are a little fat, but a small
  piece of tape keeps the top on well.   Best wishes, pj or dc
 
 
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Re: CSThyroid Nodules

[Dan Nave]

Separate handholds don't hurt.  You have to touch them across your tongue,
or something like that, to get any sensation.  Like testing a 9V battery...

On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 5:57 AM, RaVen aslra...@gmail.com wrote:

 Okay, I did buy the square plastic box with the 2 pennies in it I was
 nervous about jolting my body...
 Does the separate hand holds hurt?



 On Aug 17, 2015, at 11:37 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote:

 Depends on what type you bought.  I am talking about one that has separate
 hand holds, or where you can put electrodes on different parts of the body
 rather than those ones with two pennies for electrodes.  Otherwise it is
 just a square wave oscillator going from 0 to 9 volts, oscillating at
 around 30KHz.


 On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 8:22 PM, RaVen aslra...@gmail.com wrote:

 Speaking of zappers -- I bought an affordable one from some nice guy who
 makes them  - can't remember his name (blush) --- but it didn't do a thing
 for me.
 Did I need something stronger? What do you (those who have had experience
 with) recommend?



 On Aug 17, 2015, at 7:41 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote:

 I wonder if you could benefit from using a Hulda Clark type Zapper. I
 used one of her original style Zappers and had good results against
 Shingles in myself and other people, and with Mononucleosis which are viral
 diseases.  The Zapper seemed to be effective.

 Dan

 On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 12:24 PM, Sandra George oha...@juno.com wrote:

 Lola I beg to differ CS does NOT kill virus, a virus is considered to be
 dead, because they do not breathe, they do not use
 oxygen, it piggy backs on others cells for support, it then uses the
 host to self multiply its cells, which is why CS can not kill them, I
 learned this myself last year when I contracted the Chickenguyna virus, and
 all the other virus I have contracted over the years.  What CS does is
 clean up the garbage of all the other lurgies which enter the body, a virus
 is one of the hardest things to kill, I have heard it said, that after a
 long period of time, a virus will die or become dormant in the body   as
 does herpes and more, however to actually say they die or are eradicated
 from the body I think a blood test is the only way known to establish this
 fact - there are others on this site who know more about this than I do, so
 I am sure they will contribute their dollar’s worth to what I have said - a
 virus is a totally different animal to any other human type disease!
 I will venture into other fields here to say that mentally a virus can be
 killed however a huge amount of personal work has to be done to achieve
 this, and even then I am not sure, cause I have not been able to achieve
 this myself after many many years of work !
 Regards
 Sandee
 Attitude is everything !!!
 Sandra George
 Colloidal Silver Products
 Eye Drops  Topical Gel
 aliveagai...@yahoo.com




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Re: CSThyroid Nodules

[Dan Nave]

I don't agree that the Terminator Zapper is effective.  I have found them
ineffective, but they may have some effect if they are placed across  a
vein, IMHO...

On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 7:06 AM, Tony Moody a...@aptech.co.za wrote:

 Raven ,

 If that is the thing called Terminator. That is particulary benign to the
 body and seems more
 beneficial that the ordinary Hulda clark device. I used to make and sell
 standard Hulda Clark
 Zappers and still prefer to use the Terminator on myself if I have
 something which won't go. It
 seems to have a better penetrating action. There is a use for both.

 I usually dampen the coins and place them on my tummy, tucked behind my
 belt. I can leave
 that on for hours.

 OK,
 Tony

 On 21 Aug 2015 at 6:57, RaVen wrote about :
 Subject : Re: CSThyroid Nodules

 
  Okay, I did buy the square plastic box with the 2 pennies in it I was
  nervous about jolting my body...  Does the separate hand holds hurt?
 
 
 
  On Aug 17, 2015, at 11:37 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Depends on what type you bought.  I am talking about one that has
  separate hand holds, or where you can put electrodes on different parts
 of
  the body rather than those ones with two pennies for electrodes.
  Otherwise it is just a square wave oscillator going from 0 to 9 volts,
  oscillating at around 30KHz.
 
 
  On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 8:22 PM, RaVen aslra...@gmail.com wrote:
  Speaking of zappers -- I bought an affordable one from some nice guy
  who makes them  - can't remember his name (blush) --- but it didn't
  do a thing for me.  Did I need something stronger? What do you (those
  who have had experience with) recommend?
 
 
 
  On Aug 17, 2015, at 7:41 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
  I wonder if you could benefit from using a Hulda Clark type Zapper. I
  used one of her original style Zappers and had good results against
  Shingles in myself and other people, and with Mononucleosis which are
  viral diseases.  The Zapper seemed to be effective.
 
  Dan
 
  On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 12:24 PM, Sandra George oha...@juno.com 
  wrote: Lola I beg to differ CS does NOT kill virus, a virus is
  considered to be dead, because they do not breathe, they do not use
  oxygen, it piggy backs on others cells for support, it then uses the
  host to self multiply its cells, which is why CS can not kill them, I
  learned this myself last year when I contracted the Chickenguyna
  virus, and all the other virus I have contracted over the years.
What CS does is clean up the garbage of all the other lurgies which
  enter the body, a virus is one of the hardest things to kill, I have
  heard it said, that after a long period of time, a virus will die or
  become dormant in the body   as does herpes and more, however to
  actually say they die or are eradicated from the body I think a blood
  test is the only way known to establish this fact - there are others
  on this site who know more about this than I do, so I am sure they
  will contribute their dollar’s worth to what I have said - a virus
  is a totally different animal to any other human type disease!
I will venture into other fields here to say that mentally a virus
  can be killed however a huge amount of personal work has to be done
 to
  achieve this, and even then I am not sure, cause I have not been able
  to achieve this myself after many many years of work ! Regards
  Sandee Attitude is everything !!! Sandra George Colloidal Silver
  Products Eye Drops  Topical Gel aliveagai...@yahoo.com
 
 
 
 
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Re: CSThyroid Nodules

[Dan Nave]

I wonder if you could benefit from using a Hulda Clark type Zapper. I used
one of her original style Zappers and had good results against Shingles in
myself and other people, and with Mononucleosis which are viral diseases.
The Zapper seemed to be effective.

Dan

On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 12:24 PM, Sandra George oha...@juno.com wrote:

 Lola I beg to differ CS does NOT kill virus, a virus is considered to be
 dead, because they do not breathe, they do not use
 oxygen, it piggy backs on others cells for support, it then uses the host
 to self multiply its cells, which is why CS can not kill them, I learned
 this myself last year when I contracted the Chickenguyna virus, and all the
 other virus I have contracted over the years.  What CS does is clean up
 the garbage of all the other lurgies which enter the body, a virus is one
 of the hardest things to kill, I have heard it said, that after a long
 period of time, a virus will die or become dormant in the body   as does
 herpes and more, however to actually say they die or are eradicated from
 the body I think a blood test is the only way known to establish this fact
 - there are others on this site who know more about this than I do, so I am
 sure they will contribute their dollar’s worth to what I have said - a
 virus is a totally different animal to any other human type disease!
 I will venture into other fields here to say that mentally a virus can be
 killed however a huge amount of personal work has to be done to achieve
 this, and even then I am not sure, cause I have not been able to achieve
 this myself after many many years of work !
 Regards
 Sandee
 Attitude is everything !!!
 Sandra George
 Colloidal Silver Products
 Eye Drops  Topical Gel
 aliveagai...@yahoo.com




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Re: CSThyroid Nodules

[Dan Nave]

Depends on what type you bought.  I am talking about one that has separate
hand holds, or where you can put electrodes on different parts of the body
rather than those ones with two pennies for electrodes.  Otherwise it is
just a square wave oscillator going from 0 to 9 volts, oscillating at
around 30KHz.


On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 8:22 PM, RaVen aslra...@gmail.com wrote:

 Speaking of zappers -- I bought an affordable one from some nice guy who
 makes them  - can't remember his name (blush) --- but it didn't do a thing
 for me.
 Did I need something stronger? What do you (those who have had experience
 with) recommend?



 On Aug 17, 2015, at 7:41 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote:

 I wonder if you could benefit from using a Hulda Clark type Zapper. I used
 one of her original style Zappers and had good results against Shingles in
 myself and other people, and with Mononucleosis which are viral diseases.
 The Zapper seemed to be effective.

 Dan

 On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 12:24 PM, Sandra George oha...@juno.com wrote:

 Lola I beg to differ CS does NOT kill virus, a virus is considered to be
 dead, because they do not breathe, they do not use
 oxygen, it piggy backs on others cells for support, it then uses the host
 to self multiply its cells, which is why CS can not kill them, I learned
 this myself last year when I contracted the Chickenguyna virus, and all the
 other virus I have contracted over the years.  What CS does is clean up
 the garbage of all the other lurgies which enter the body, a virus is one
 of the hardest things to kill, I have heard it said, that after a long
 period of time, a virus will die or become dormant in the body   as does
 herpes and more, however to actually say they die or are eradicated from
 the body I think a blood test is the only way known to establish this fact
 - there are others on this site who know more about this than I do, so I am
 sure they will contribute their dollar’s worth to what I have said - a
 virus is a totally different animal to any other human type disease!
 I will venture into other fields here to say that mentally a virus can be
 killed however a huge amount of personal work has to be done to achieve
 this, and even then I am not sure, cause I have not been able to achieve
 this myself after many many years of work !
 Regards
 Sandee
 Attitude is everything !!!
 Sandra George
 Colloidal Silver Products
 Eye Drops  Topical Gel
 aliveagai...@yahoo.com




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Re: CSThyroid Nodules

[Dan Nave]

Mono = Kissing disease

On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 7:15 PM, Neville one.red...@hotmail.com wrote:


 Being a layman, excuse me for interrupting here, but the following
 [bolded] caught my attention...

 There are some terminologies which may differ dependant on which country
 one resides in.  Could you tell me if what you all are discussing is
 anything to do with, or related to in any way, what is termed in Australia
 as Glandular Fever or Kissing Disease?

 I'll explain if the above is relevant.

 Thank You

 N.


 --
 From: dah...@centurytel.net
 Subject: Re: CSThyroid Nodules
 Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 09:51:37 -0500
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com

 I have been working with a hashimoto patient  and I might add a new
 perspective to this discussion, particularly since this is a silver list,
 interested in CS fighting infections:



 My suspicions that thyroiditis was caused by an infection seems to be
 backed up by many online excerpts:

 In my clinical experience working with many Hashimoto’s patients I have
 found that the most common underlying cause of Hashimoto’s disease is a
 chronic stealth infection that has been overlooked by both conventional and
 alternative practitioners. *One of the most common infection connections
 with Hashimoto’s disease is the Epstein-Barr Virus (EBV). EBV is actually a
 herpes virus that most people contract when they are young causing
 mononucleosis aka “The Kissing Disease” which results in swollen lymph
 nodes and fatigue.* Normally, your body fights it off and your immune
 system controls it for life just like chicken pox for example. However,
 people with Hashimoto’s disease have been shown to have a genetic
 deficiency in the immune cells (CD8+) that control this virus. The virus
 then reactivates inside the thyroid gland inducing autoimmunity via
 molecular mimicry. As long as the EBV is active, the autoimmunity will
 persist.  I find a significant number of patients with Hashimoto’s disease
 have reactivated EBV which is identified through a simple blood test. I use
 the activity of the EBV as a guide to balancing the immune system and
 reducing the attack on the thyroid gland.



 doug

CSSilver impregnated filter paper for water purification

[Dan Nave]

http://phys.org/news/2015-08-water-borne-bacteria-pages-drinkable.html

Interesting article on silver impregnated filter paper for water
purification.

Dan

Re: CSCMO and dairy

[Dan Nave]

Google Boron or Borax and arthritis.  Works pretty good for many people

Or, use this link:http://www.rexnewnhamarthritiseducation.com/paper.asp


Dan

On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 7:01 PM, Smitty papad...@gmail.com wrote:

 I and several friends have had great response
 with FlexoPlex for joints.
 Smitty

 On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 10:54 AM, Patricia pcassi...@tx.rr.com wrote:

  i agree Lola. and  Goat products are digested so differently from
 regular cow products I don't think it applies   just my thought.Also
 all the amino acids etc you are getting has to be good.

 On 7/24/2015 3:48 PM, Lola Harris wrote:

 Nancy... maybe the warnings apply to commercially prepared milk/dairy
 products. Raw dairy is
 a whole different animal compared to the commercial stuff.  Maybe the
 raw, natural dairy doesn't
 interfere with the CMO?   Is your dairy raw?   Just thinking out loud.
 Lola

  - Original Message -
 From: Nancy Winiecki hemna...@yahoo.com hemna...@yahoo.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 16:36:52 -0400 (EDT)
 Subject: CSCMO and dairy

  I injured my knees on several occasions doing heavy yard work,
 especially pulling a cart loaded with branches uphill.   For 21 years I
 have been doing heavy digging, mattocking, and pulling loads, perhaps I
 have been wearing down the cartilage in my knees.  Anyway after the last
 incident I can't bend my R knee but I was using an IR heat lamp and
 magnetic pulser on it and it slowly gets better, but I looked on the
 Silverlist and was reminded about CMO for joints, Cetyl Myristoleate, and
 got some so have been taking and feel like I improve every day.  There are
 always stresses though from what yard work I do, I have 2 acres with
 weeding, watering. etc.  One instruction on diet with CMO says to avoid
 dairy, and I drink goat milk, goat whey, goat cheese and sour cream a lot.
 I've been avoiding it but wonder if it is necessary, since I haven't read
 this anywhere else.


  http://www.cmohq.com/page12.htmlhttp://www.cmohq.com/page12.html

  Has anyone tried this or felt they had good results from CMO while
 comsuming dairy?

  Nancy

Re: CSJoy in Canada Ode

[Dan Nave]

Time for you to get a new phone...

On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Ode Coyote silverpuppy1...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Joy, my phone hangs up on people after about 1 minute. [I didn't hang up
 on you]
 I don't have a service where I could call you back internationally.

 Ode [Ken

Re: CSGray silver water

[Dan Nave]

Don't cut your wires.  Just make a wide bend at the bottom so they point
back up.


On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 2:49 PM, Reece Maxey ozarko...@att.net wrote:

 Mike, are you saying not stirring helps? That is the opposite to
 what I've read. Explain farther please, I'm not stirring as of now.

 I'm a thrifty soul, so don't want to cut off my 6 wires to increase
 the distance to the bottom of the jar. I did have an instance of the
 silver plating the bottom when higher voltage was used.

 I want to personally see some positive results of using CS before
 I invest in more equipment or buy something such as a Puppy.
  My wife and I are both reasonably healthy few colds, flu symptoms.

 I did use a  nebulizer when I had a bad case of bronchitis and believe
 that it did help. Silver gel on a cut on hand did speed the healing too.
 Really don't have much sickness, so building immunity is major goal.
 Most of extended family and friends are afraid to use CS.
 Opa

 Sent from my iPad

 On Apr 21, 2015, at 1:08 PM, Phil Morrison philmorrison...@gmail.com
 wrote:


 Some folks claim making CS under full moon clears up gray.

 Not stirring and keeping electrodes well off bottom of reaction
 jar also helps.
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Re: CSCan you all give advice for a beloved dog with cancer...please.

[Dan Nave]

I cured our dog of what I believe was a cancerous tumor by using a hulda
clark zapper.  Put one electrode in each of 2 plastic containers and had
the dog stand with front feet in one and back feet in the other for 7
minutes at a time while I petted it.  I also gave it garlic cloves in it's
food which it didn't like, but ate it after I put some of it in it's mouth
since it then tasted like garlic anyway.  Only took a couple of weeks.

I don't think you are supposed to give garlic and do the zapping at the
same time since there may be some negative effect.  But separated by a few
days or a week it shouldn't be a problem.

I would give straight colloidal silver to drink as well.

On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 11:03 AM, Lena Guyot drumr...@stny.rr.com wrote:

 Actually, the promoter seems to have been struggling with issues I would
 have thought her biomat would have resolved. Not exactly encouraging
 example. L

 On Mar 14, 2015, at 11:41 AM, PT Ferrance wrote:

 I'm with you, Lena.  The thing is that I haven't found biomats to be all
 that helpful, plus the emf things (which happens if something is plugged
 into an outlet)... and then there is far infrared garments and blankets
 which are so much less expensive and very helpful.
 PT

   --
  *From:* Lena Guyot drumr...@stny.rr.com
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Saturday, March 14, 2015 10:38 AM
 *Subject:* Re: CSCan you all give advice for a beloved dog with
 cancer...please.

 So. First it was 'Tre', then it was 'Tre Dan', then, for a while, it was
 'Dan Tre', then back to 'Tre'. Now, all of a sudden, it's 'Treva'.

 Could it be that some folks, weary of constant biomat selling, are putting
 a filter or block on these names? What gives?

 The pattern: a few short, semi-helpful posts are made,  and then, voilà!
 another thinly-veiled promo for biomats.  H.

 On Mar 14, 2015, at 1:40 AM, Treva wrote:

 Hi. Lola and Deborah.
 I'm more silent here but ever learning.
 I'd like to offer you a free cancer ebook. Pets self monitor on the device
 and come and go while its on.
 They just know stuff better than people do.
 Pls write me at lymeo...@yahoo.com
 Sincerely
 Treva

 lymeover.com Natural forces within us are the true healers of disease -
 Hippocrates. So our own far infra red is produced and sent into us with
 variable temperatures.  Ask today how this can happen. Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 13, 2015, at 10:35 AM, Lola Harris phoenix23...@tds.net wrote:

 Hi, Deborah.  Yes, I do use CS... but mainly for cuts, colds,
 flu etc. It is part of my 'get well' arsenal..lol.
 Lola

 - Original Message -
 From: Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Fri, 13 Mar 2015 13:26:16 -0400 (EDT)
 Subject: Re: CSCan you all give advice for a beloved dog with
 cancer...please.

 Thank-you Lola...do you use colloidal silver too?


 On Friday, March 13, 2015 1:12 PM, Lola Harris phoenix23...@tds.net
 wrote:


 Deborah... You might ck out  a yahoo group that has used Artemisinin for
 their pets' cancer.  I have no first hand knowledge or experience with this
 group but I have used Artemisinin (from Nutricology) to help keep my
 breast cancer at bay over the years (10 yrs survivor having surgery only...
 no chemo or radiation).  Lola



 - Original Message -
 From: Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com
 To: Silver-List silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Fri, 13 Mar 2015 12:44:42 -0400 (EDT)
 Subject: CSCan you all give advice for a beloved dog with cancer...please.

 This is a post from a someone seeking help for her dogany advice using
 the colloidal silver would so much be appreciated.

  Golden Retriver Ezra. Just got the lab work results back yesterday and he
 has anal gland cancer. He has had this mass in that area for a year that I
 now of and was being montired. Bad thing is the place I go to doesn't have
 the High tech equipment to see inside Ezra's body to see if the cancer has
 spread to other organs or lymnodes. I have to go out of state to do this
 and don't have the funds for the trip much less sugery if the cancer is in
 a certain area only. I can't be in two places at the same time I have other
 animals too, 3 birds. I know Ezra isn't feeling good, he isn't himself and
 I think he is depressed. I'm not sure if he is in pain, time will tell when
 the cancer spreads that he won't be able to relieve himself. I'm so sad for
 Ezra. He's a good boy. He is my second service dog, 10 years old. I ask for
 a healing of his body .

Re: CSUsing CS While Sprouting Grains

[Dan Nave]

I would think if you use some CS while sprouting you will not get any
contamination.


On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 8:51 AM, ASL raVen aslra...@gmail.com wrote:

 Do you have a picture of what it is best to stop as soon as sprouting
 begins looks like?

 RaVen

Re: CSBeck

[Dan Nave]

I use Boron (Borax) for arthritis.  I find it quite effective.  Recently,
within the last month, I had a friend who is 66 yrs old who said his hand
were so arthritic that he was having real problems doing his normal work.
I recommended that he try the Borax.  After 2 weeks he told me that his
hands were 75% better.  I think they will continue to get better over time
with some Borax supplementation.

Dan

On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 11:03 PM, Victor Cozzetto victor.cozze...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hi Phil,

 I have never used boron, but I would be curious to hear other's
 experiences.

 We add a little bentonite clay to our bread sometimes, or other dishes. We
 are slowly making it a more consistent part of our diet.

 We also just drink a glass of water with clay mixed in for a week at a
 time every now and then.

 From what I've read, clay is pretty good at detoxing radiation, among
 other things.

 I live in Tokyo, but I probably get more radiation from my trips to NY ;-)

 Victor
 Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 3, 2015, at 12:41 PM, Phil Morrison philmorrison...@gmail.com
 wrote:


 Victor ...

 Do you use Boron supplements much living in Japan?

 The Russians used lots of Boron in dealing with Chernobyl.

 Like you, I find parts of Beck Protocol very useful.

CSUsing CS While Sprouting Grains

[Dan Nave]

Has anyone used CS added to the water to prevent spoilage when sprouting
grains?  I used CS in the water when trying to root some plants that
normally root in water, but they never developed roots.  They apparently
didn't realize that they were cut, or needed some bacteria to start the
process.

Re: CSAd-hominen attacks.

[Dan Nave]

To Tony,

O.K.

Dan ;-)

On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 5:53 AM, Tony Moody a...@aptech.co.za wrote:

 To Mike and all Silver List members

 My most humble apologies for my recent over-reaction and display of
 rudeness and bad
 manners.

 With regret,

 Tony Moody


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Re: CSForum

[Dan Nave]

Jason,

Time for your yearly post on cleaning electrodes.  Frankly, I seem to have
missed it...

I would also be interested in hearing about the crystallization effects
of the slow brew process.

Dan

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Jason ja...@eytonsearth.org wrote:

 Hi Gail/David:

 Facebook is the worst of the worst for their groups setup and activity.

 The lack of accurate information on those groups is astounding, and even
 when someone posts something of real value, it is lost in obscurity a
 few minutes later... not to mention the instant bullying and control
 freaks that thrive in such a setting.

 I'm very active in some other lists because there is a lot of very dynamic
 exchanges of ideas.

 I'm all for getting away from the status quo, because the status quo means
 stagnation.

 I can't remember that last time I heard an original idea on the
 silverlist... oh wait, I can!  It was from David, and the last before that
 was probably a rehash on some ideas pioneered by Brooks Bradley.

 I was on the phone with Peter Lindeman last year, and had a great
 discussion about brewing silver for a few weeks using only a trickle of a
 current solar-generated. This slow process creates some amazing
 crystallization effects.

 Also, posts that have gotten through in the past few years have gone
 largely ignored.  I do a yearly test here about the importance of cleaning
 the silver electrodes if you really want a great product.

 I always get the same response.  Not even anyone curious about how I
 personally tested this theory or how they can test to see the difference in
 quality.  Just three people or so saying they have no need to clean the
 electrodes.

 I really like the last innovation I'd seen from Ken; those looped
 electrodes make a big difference in cutting down electrode degradation.

 ...also, Trem's electrode configuration on the SG-7 is excellent, and I
 think it only works so well because he uses both polarity reversal and
 water-pump driven water circulation.

 ~Jason


 On 2/16/2015 8:25 AM, wanda85...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hi David,

 Do u think a new forum will really help?

 Personally I think many have gone to Facebook.   I'm amazed how so
 many groups r dying out when they use to be so active.People must
 be off doing other things with their life.  I know I've lost interest
 as I'm busy with other things.

 This list is kind of like old faithful to me.  I just assumed it
 would go on as usual.

 Uncle Ben would have certainly added some spice to the group.   Who
 knows maybe his posts aren't getting through either so he gave up.

 I don't post often either as I really just don't have much to say and
 some of the few posts I've tried to post didn't show up either.
 Hopefully things will straighten out quickly.

 Now let's see if this goes through fwiw.

 Gail



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Re: CS Forum

[Dan Nave]

I think the lost posts are a problem associated with eskimo.com, not email
lists in general.

On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 10:28 AM, Jason ja...@eytonsearth.org wrote:

 Hi Mike:

 I like both formats.

 For the most part, I've stopped posting to the silver list because about
 70% of my emails don't make it.  Furthermore, they don't actually bounce,
 so the only way I know that they don't make it is by checking the archives.

 Since they don't actually bounce, this indicates that the eskimo server
 software is no longer very reliable.

 You can run your own email list server, complete with your own public
 archives, from your own domain if you ever desire to do so.  One reliable
 open source platform is Mailman GNU.  It is written in Python.

 There are different types of people that use mail lists and forums. Forums
 are a more affective tool because there is a built in accountability.
 Someone can post a thread with an opinion, and someone else can post
 conflicting information.  Both perspectives are always very visible,
 allowing visitors to draw their own conclusions based on the information
 presented.  Thread topics can be hashed over until beat dead, and then the
 thread locked and pinned with a fair representation of each unique
 perspective.

 Once a specific issue has been locked and pinned, you can always reference
 it with a simple html link, saving time... so you can run an email list and
 a forum, and they can work well together.

 I had to shut down one forum because spammers couldn't post their spam,
 but they started to flood my server with registrations.  I believe
 VBulletin does a better job with all of this than the free software I was
 using.

 Most spammers are deterred when first posts require moderation, and when
 one must be a member with a post history before allowing html outbound
 links.

 ~Jason

 On 2/15/2015 7:55 AM, Rowena wrote:

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Re: CSRe: Help - for the Silverlist.

[Dan Nave]

Neville,

Get the add-on Adblock Plus for most ads, and Flash Control for flash ads.
The Flash Control add-on puts a black area over any flash programs on the
screen, and I can click on it to see the program, and click again to black
it out.  These work great!  I use on Chrome browser.

If you use Explorer, try downloading Avant Browser overlay, which has
buttons on the screen you can press with the mouse to do these functions.

These little programs really get rid of a lot of problems with adds while
browsing.

Dan

On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 4:29 PM, Neville one.red...@hotmail.com wrote:

 I can put up with any little issue with this email list, cos I don't get
 bloody adverts and crap splashed, constantly moving and blinking all over
 my screen and shoved in my face.  It's clean and a pleasure not to be
 inundated with all those advertising blurbs I'm endlessly confronted and
 bombarded with at every turn.

 I don't particularly care who reads whatever waffle I put up, life is too
 short to worry about who may read what I wrote.  If I worried about that
 too much, I'd never say anything, about the only thing of any intelligence
 computers ever introduced was the old WYSIWYG, What You See Is What You
 Get, and that sums me up perfectly g.

 N.

  Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 14:53:48 -0700
  From: sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CSRe: Help - for the Silverlist.
 
  Joe Huard wrote:
   So is this list public; see
   http://www.mail-archive.com/search?q=soll=silver-list%40eskimo.com
   Joe
  Oh, boy, you are right, I had forgotten the archives are public. Darn
  oldtimer memory!
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Re: CSHelp

[Dan Nave]

Floyd,

Why don't you restate your questions again under a new subject line?  You
will probably get some response now...

This unit looks like a voltage regulated device which can go into a runaway
mode if you brew for too long.  Not very sophisticated but it will make
acceptable colloidal silver if you know a few things about how to use it.
Also, contamination of any kind in the brew chamber can cause problems.

Dan

On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 11:43 AM, Floyd Petri fpe...@eastex.net wrote:

 *I am getting Silver-List posts again after all posts bouncing again. It
 seems like for me it is and 8-5 thing with no weekends. Anything sent after
 5 and on weekends bounces. If this email goes through it is confirmed for
 that for me and I will post accordingly.*



 *Ron you can identify the CS-3 machine here:
 http://thechoiceforhealth.webs.com/ http://thechoiceforhealth.webs.com/ .
 The large heavy print is for a vision problem. I am slowly going blind. No
 I am not new to emailing. I am 71 years old and had a BBS before the
 Internet was invented. Then I had the first computer, Timex Sinclair 2K of
 RAM, then the Commodore Pet, then the TRS 80 and then the IBM with 256K
 Ram. From there I built my own.*

 *Floyd*



 *From:* Ron [mailto:ron@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Monday, February 09, 2015 8:07 AM
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Subject:* Re: CSHelp



 Floyd,
 Since your machine is unidentifiable it is impossible to respond to you
 with other than generalizations.

 I wonder if you are using the large heavy print in your emails (which is
 considered shouting) because you have a vision problem, are new to emailing
 or are simply rude and demanding by nature.

 It is obvious that your machine is not up to the job required. Do yourself
 a favor and scrap it and get a modern one that comes with instructions and
 all and every bit of knowledge and advice you could ever want *FROM THIS
 FINE GROUP!*

 Ron

 On 2/8/2015 7:12 PM, Floyd Petri wrote:

 *This is my 3rd request for help and gave some questions three times. Two
 people tacked a question of their own onto mine and one person asked me
 some questions which I answer. No one has answered any of my questions.
 Either no one knows anything, they are two bashful or no one cares. Either
 way I am very disappointed. So someone answer me this. Is there a better
 colloidal silver making list around anywhere?*



 *Floyd*




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Re: CSSilver nanowire as insulation

[Dan Nave]

One process:

Uniform Silver Nanowires Synthesis by Reducing AgNO3 with Ethylene Glycol
in the Presence of Seeds and Poly(Vinyl Pyrrolidone)

A solution-phase approach has been demonstrated for the large-scale
synthesis of silver nanowires with diameters in the range of 30−40 nm, and
lengths up to ∼50 μm. The first step of this process involved the formation
of Pt (or Ag) nanoparticles by reducing PtCl2 (or AgNO3) with ethylene
glycol (EG) heated to ∼160 °C. These Pt (or Ag) nanoparticles could serve
as seeds for the heterogeneous nucleation and growth of silver (formed by
reducing AgNO3 with EG) because of their close match in crystal structure
and lattice constants. In the presence of poly(vinyl pyrrolidone) (PVP),
the growth of silver could be directed into a highly anisotropic mode to
form uniform nanowires with aspect ratios as high as ∼1000. UV−visible
spectroscopy, SEM, TEM, XRD, and electron diffraction were used to
characterize these silver nanowires, indicating the formation of a highly
pure phase, as well as a uniform diameter and bicrystalline structure. Both
morphology and aspect ratios of these silver nanostructures could be varied
from nanoparticles and nanorods to long nanowires by adjusting the reaction
conditions, including the ratio of PVP to silver nitrate, reaction
temperature, and seeding conditions. Measurements of the transport
properties at room temperature indicated that these silver nanowires were
electrically continuous with a conductivity (∼0.8 × 105 S/cm) approaching
that of bulk silver.

http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/cm020587b?journalCode=cmatex

On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 12:39 AM, Neville one.red...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Quote from article...Clothing coated in AgNWs would feel virtually
 identical to normal clothing because such a small amount of AgNW
 solution... end quote.

 I see the word 'solution' there, is this simply like dipping a pair of
 socks into your solution while it's brewing?

 Those two words don't seem to go together for me - 'AgNW' and 'solution'?
 So which is it, is the clothing full of minute silver wires, or is it just
 clothing dipped in a silver solution?

 N.

 Read more at: http://phys.org/news/2015-01-super-insulated-indoor.html#jCp
 --
 Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2015 21:52:34 -0600
 Subject: Re: CSSilver nanowire as insulation
 From: bhangcha...@gmail.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com


 It would have to be nanowire, but how they make that, I don't know.

 On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 10:10 AM, André Juthe andre.ju...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Does that mean that you could dip your clothes in your silver solution in
 order to get some of that effect or does it have to be nanowires?

 2015-01-08 17:01 GMT+01:00 Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com:

 Well, it IS about silver...

 http://phys.org/news/2015-01-super-insulated-indoor.html

 (Phys.org)—By wearing clothes that have been dip-coated in a silver
 nanowire (AgNW) solution that is highly radiation-insulating, a person may
 stay so warm in the winter that they can greatly reduce or even eliminate
 their need for heating their home. Considering that 47% of global energy is
 spent on indoor heating, and 42% of that specifically for residential
 heating, such highly insulating clothing could potentially have huge cost
 savings.

Re: CSSilver nanowire as insulation

[Dan Nave]

It would have to be nanowire, but how they make that, I don't know.

On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 10:10 AM, André Juthe andre.ju...@gmail.com wrote:

 Does that mean that you could dip your clothes in your silver solution in
 order to get some of that effect or does it have to be nanowires?

 2015-01-08 17:01 GMT+01:00 Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com:

 Well, it IS about silver...

 http://phys.org/news/2015-01-super-insulated-indoor.html

 (Phys.org)—By wearing clothes that have been dip-coated in a silver
 nanowire (AgNW) solution that is highly radiation-insulating, a person may
 stay so warm in the winter that they can greatly reduce or even eliminate
 their need for heating their home. Considering that 47% of global energy is
 spent on indoor heating, and 42% of that specifically for residential
 heating, such highly insulating clothing could potentially have huge cost
 savings.

CSSilver nanowire as insulation

[Dan Nave]

Well, it IS about silver...

http://phys.org/news/2015-01-super-insulated-indoor.html

(Phys.org)—By wearing clothes that have been dip-coated in a silver
nanowire (AgNW) solution that is highly radiation-insulating, a person may
stay so warm in the winter that they can greatly reduce or even eliminate
their need for heating their home. Considering that 47% of global energy is
spent on indoor heating, and 42% of that specifically for residential
heating, such highly insulating clothing could potentially have huge cost
savings.

CSVitamin D3 Rat Poison Hysteria.

[Dan Nave]

You wrote: Another one I have been researching for 5 yrs is
vit(hormone)d3.  According to the USDA  website pill,capsule,liquid etc
form can be a mouse poison.

As a health resacher, you may be interested in the following information:

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodenticide :

Calciferols (vitamins D), cholecalciferol (vitamin D3) and ergocalciferol
(vitamin D2) are used as rodenticides. They are toxic to rodents for the
same reason they are important to humans: they affect calcium and phosphate
homeostasis in the body. Vitamins D are essential in minute quantities (few
IUs per kilogram body weight daily, only a fraction of a milligram), and
like most fat soluble vitamins, they are toxic in larger doses, causing
hypervitaminosis. If the poisoning is severe enough (that is, if the dose
of the toxin is high enough), it leads to death.


From a conversation at http://www.marshallprotocol.com/forum39/11446.html
:

40,000,000 IU / gram* 0.075% = 30,000 IU / gram of rodent killer

2-3 grams is sufficient to kill a mouse.
That is 75,000 IU is sufficient to kill a mouse.

Humans and mice are not the same, but for comparison,
a mouse is said to weigh about 25 grams
and a person might weigh around 70 kilograms.

If the dosage by weight is an appropriate measure for toxicity...
an equivalent amount for a human would be 2,100,000,000 IU.
***

Let's say a 75 kg human instead.

75 kg / 25 gram = 3000

75000 x 3000 = 150 000 000 IU

Or to put it in more simple terms, 2 grams times 3000 = 6 kg of 0.075% D
vit.
= 4.5 gram of 100% D vit.
***

Re: CSFwd: bacteria in my daughters lungs and heart

[Dan Nave]

Colloidal silver can be put into a nebulizer if it is being used/

On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 9:32 PM, Roger Barker rbar...@clear.net.nz wrote:

 Hi Michael, you might like to check out this video.

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTXSTGGRvKY

 It might just be another string for your bow.

 Very best wishes for success in your battle and may it prove to be a  Very
 Happy New Year for you all.

 Roger B
 NZ


 On 27/12/2014, at 1:55 PM, Michael Mckenna wrote:



 -Original Message-
 From: Michael Mckenna piperb...@aol.com
 To: mdevour mdev...@eskimo.com
 Sent: Fri, Dec 26, 2014 2:02 pm
 Subject: bacteria in my daughters lungs and heart

  I am writing to you because I am desperate on what I can do to save her.
 She has been in intensive in the CCU at Albany medical center for 1 week
 now and is getting worse. I have asked every doctor about using CS to kill
 the bacteria to no avail since it is not an FDA approved medicine. They
 have even gone as far to say that it might kill her. If you have any
 suggestions please let me know thanks - Michael Mckenna

Re: CSWho Knew

[Dan Nave]

You are supposed to take 1/4 teaspoon of sea salt, or equivalent, with
every quart of water.

On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 8:04 PM, Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com
wrote:

 I use sea salt on food...are you supposed to take more?

 Debbie


   On Monday, December 22, 2014 8:36 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com
 wrote:


 Do you take the sea salt as recommended as well?


 On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 7:03 PM, Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com
 wrote:

 I drink water all daygood filtered water and still suffer from pain.


   On Monday, December 22, 2014 6:47 PM, Phil Morrison 
 philmorrison...@gmail.com wrote:



 Did you know that pain indicates dehydration and dehydration produces
 damage in the tissues of the body and that can also cause cancer?  Or, that
 dehydration shuts down the immune system?

 Interview with world's water expert below:


 http://www.phenomenews.com/nov2005/0a.htm

Re: CSWho Knew

[Dan Nave]

He writes: So, water is an unknown quantity that God has
revealed for mankind in trouble, in times of need,
when we are being enslaved by the pharmaceutical
industry and the ignorance of my colleagues in the
medical community.
The treatment process is
very simple; prevent
dehydration first. You
need water on a regular
basis, you need salt on a
regular basis. You need
daily exercise because
your brain chemistry
depends on how you
move your muscles.
When you use your
muscles, you burn the
branched-chain amino
acids, which are competitors
to tryptophan passage
across the bloodbrain
barrier. And once
you burn those, your body
chemistry will begin to function normally. The calf
muscles are your secondary hearts for venous
circulation. That is why you need to exercise every day.
You need a balanced vegetable and protein
diet, a ratio of 20 to 80, 80 percent vegetables and
fruits, not very much starch, and 20 percent protein.
Do this and take the right amounts of water and
cut out sodas, I can assure you, I guarantee no
disease will occur in you for a long time. You need
your water before your food. First thing in the
morning when you wake up, two glasses of water
to offset the dehydration of overnight. Then you
need a glass of water half an hour before food
because if you expect to digest the food, you better
give the water beforehand. You need also a glass
of water two-and-a-half hours after food, to wrap
up the process of digestion, and hydrate the areas
that lost water to the circulation. You need for
every quart or liter of water a quarter teaspoon of
salt, you also need the other minerals in order to
regulate the volume of water that is held inside
the cells. You need a balanced protein; eggs are
very good, cottage cheese is excellent, to give
you all the amino acids and balanced structure.
To reverse any of the diseases produced by
dehydration it is essential to adequately supplement
the body with intracellular minerals; the diet must
be high in its potassium, calcium, magnesium, zinc,
selenium and manganese content. This is a very
simple solution to cure any of the modern diseases
we have come across.
I have been asked if
drinking enough water
would be the best protection
against pollutants
in our environment.
Absolutely. It would
offset the damage that
is produced by these
things, first, and secondly
it will immediately
flush the toxic material
out of the body.Water is a tremendous
cleansing solution against all these toxic materials.

On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 8:04 PM, Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com
wrote:

 I use sea salt on food...are you supposed to take more?

 Debbie


   On Monday, December 22, 2014 8:36 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com
 wrote:


 Do you take the sea salt as recommended as well?


 On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 7:03 PM, Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com
 wrote:

 I drink water all daygood filtered water and still suffer from pain.


   On Monday, December 22, 2014 6:47 PM, Phil Morrison 
 philmorrison...@gmail.com wrote:



 Did you know that pain indicates dehydration and dehydration produces
 damage in the tissues of the body and that can also cause cancer?  Or, that
 dehydration shuts down the immune system?

 Interview with world's water expert below:


 http://www.phenomenews.com/nov2005/0a.htm

Re: CSWho Knew

[Dan Nave]

Do you take the sea salt as recommended as well?


On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 7:03 PM, Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com
wrote:

 I drink water all daygood filtered water and still suffer from pain.


   On Monday, December 22, 2014 6:47 PM, Phil Morrison 
 philmorrison...@gmail.com wrote:



 Did you know that pain indicates dehydration and dehydration produces
 damage in the tissues of the body and that can also cause cancer?  Or, that
 dehydration shuts down the immune system?

 Interview with world's water expert below:


 http://www.phenomenews.com/nov2005/0a.htm

CSEbola In The Air: What Science Says About How The Virus Spreads

[Dan Nave]

http://www.npr.org/blogs/goatsandsoda/2014/12/01/364749313/ebola-in-the-air-what-science-says-about-how-the-virus-spreads?utm_source=facebook.comutm_medium=socialutm_campaign=nprutm_term=nprnewsutm_content=202601


This is a pretty good article about how Ebola spreads in the air.

It is the first mainstream article I've seen that tackles this explicitly
and intelligently...

Worth reading.

Dan

Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2014 #281

[Dan Nave]

Why in the world would you want to extend the bitter taste by mixing MSM
into anything?

Just dump the crystals in your mouth, quick take a mouthful of water, swish
it around quickly to surround the crystals, and swallow.  Take another
mouthful of water.  Then go ahead and have your apple sauce, coffee, or
whatever.  Coffee might be good, after the fact.  It will either make it
taste less bitter by contrast, or make it more bitter, not sure.

Dan

On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 9:52 AM, Terry Lee Gonzalez 
tampa-te...@tampabay.rr.com wrote:

 Re CSMSM rids Parasites

 Harsha, I take my MSM with my morning coffee because unlike a lot of
 supplements/nutrients it crosses the blood brain barrier and has an
 energizing effect (at about 5g).  In fact, I usually recommend to people
 that they NOT take MSM before they go to bed, because your brain will be so
 active you won't be able to fall asleep.  But back to your original
 question, MSM powder can be taken with either hot or cold liquid.  It is
 not degraded by heat.  So you could take it with hot tea, hot coffee or
 cold orange juice.  It can be added to a protein shake, apple sauce, yogurt
 or even soup!  The options are endless. Those of us who are truly hardcore
 put the powder on our tongues and wash it down with water.

 Terry

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