RE: CSCS and RA, CG
What do you want to know about it? Samala, Renee -Original Message- Has anybody here know about Ormus? Tara -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSNeed help
My brother and husband just nebulized pure 15-20ppm CS, 3 to 5 times a day, for a couple days and their chest infection (and sinus as they breathed in through their noses) went away totally. They felt fine after the first day, but did it the second day to make sure it was all gone. Of course, they started immediately as soon as they started feeling bad. it may take longer if your husband has waited longer. Samala, Renee So -- we're going to try nebulizing EIS. Having never done this before, I need to know -- do we use EIS full-strength? Also -- how much, how often, etc. -- general guidelines. TIA. MA
RE: CSNeed help
When you have an ultrasonic nebulizer like we do (bought on ebay for about 25 bucks) it immediately starts making a mist when turned on. as soon as the mist stops, all the medicine in the cup-in this case CS-is used up and you stop. J There are lots of sellers on ebay, most from either Taiwan or China, so it takes more time to get delivered. I think mine took about 2 weeks to get here, but they are exactly the same as the US sellers, just cheaper. The instructions with mine were all in Taiwanese or Chinese, so I searched and found a youtube vid that showed how to fill the nebulizer. It's simple. You add water to just about a millimeter or so above the white rim-you MUST use water with an ultrasonic-and then you fill the little cup with your medicine, then place the white gasket on top of the cup and the top of the machine on that. It comes with a number of the medicine cups because they are very flimsy but we've used the same one here for both guys and it's still fine. it also comes with an adult mask that goes over the nose, and a mouth breathing tube if you just want to mouth breath-which may be better if your problem is just in your lungs. My guys also had the sniffles. It also comes with a child's face mask. Hope your holiday was wonderful, too! Samala, Renee Renee How long do you do you breath it in each time? This sounds great!
RE: CSNeed help
I have some sort of meter. I bought it from Ode when I bought my Silver Puppy. Registers great. You just need to inhale the mist however you can. You can place your mouth close to it, or put a towel over your head and the machine so that you breath the mist. The medicine is in the mist itself, so that's what you want to get down into your lungs. I only have a portable ultrasonic nebulizer, so don't know about other brands, but anything that is making a mist is putting the medicine into the mist and this is what you want to breath deep into your lungs and/or sinuses. Samala, Renee Thank you, Renee. A couple more questions. Do you use a Hanna Tester to determine your ppm level? Also -- we have a Medisana personal humidifier (brand-new in the box, never used). It does not have a hose-type attachment for inhaling -- is there any reason why a person can't just place their mouth against the output port and inhale from there? Or is it not necessary to physically place the mouth on it -- but place mouth/nose near the output port and inhale? MA From: Renee gaiac...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, December 26, 2012 9:33:04 AM Subject: RE: CSNeed help My brother and husband just nebulized pure 15-20ppm CS, 3 to 5 times a day, for a couple days and their chest in _ fection (and sinus as they breathed in through their noses) went away totally. They felt fine after the first day, but did it the second day to make sure it was all gone. Of course, they started immediately as soon as they started feeling bad. it may take longer if your husband has waited longer. Samala, Renee So -- we're going to try nebulizing EIS. Having never done this before, I need to know -- do we use EIS full-strength? Also -- how much, how often, etc. -- general guidelines. TIA. MA
RE: CSNeed help
That's where I got mine. Do get an ultrasonic nebulizer though-it makes a super fine mist. I got the portable, which is small, hand-held. It still needs to be plugged into an electric outlet. One day I want to get one that runs on batteries so that it is TRULY portable, but they are much more expensive than the electric ones. So for right now, my electric one is fine. Samala, Renee EBay Where could one purchase a nebulizer? A
RE: CSOT - zapper burns
Actually, Bob (from another list) said he was told about wetting the towels and then letting them dry, then using them. he tried it and said it works a lot better (he's sensitive so he can tell) than using wet towels. Odd, huh? Samala, Renee Although I wrapped the copper handholds in a layer of wet paper towel I ended up with a burn on the side on which I felt the estim most.
RE: CSNeed help
Yep. That’s exactly like mine. Samala, Renee Renee, something like this?
CSIV-7
Anybody see the 'great new product' IV-7? Here's a disguised sales article for it http://www.articlesbase.com/mlm-articles/is-iv-7-ultimate-germ-defense-a-sca m-2508844.html the guy that developed Ocean's Alive, Ian Clark, says that it worked for him. he drank one half ounce once a day for 2 weeks and his cyst filled up (that's how he tells if he's detoxing) and then after 2 weeks it was just gone. The article above says it is a mix of ionic silver and citric acid. Is this something we could make at home? Or is it just the silver itself that is getting people well, and it has nothing to do with a chemical mix of CS and citric? Thoughts? Samala, Renee
RE: Cayenne / Aches pain was // Re: CSProstatitis
My poor Dad. He couldn't tolerate anything hot at all. He was diabetic and one day my Mom and I were shopping. When we came in Dad was in his chair, out of it, kind of slumped over and not responsive. I thought he had a stroke or heart attack so I got out my super hot cayenne tincture and put a dropper full in his mouth. Swallow response was instinctive. Gave him a second dropper full. Was putting the third dropper up to his mouth and his hand slowly came up and he waved 'no'-so I stopped. I thought-if he can do that, that's enough cayenne maybe. Mom had of course called the ambulance while I was doing this and about then they came running up to the door. When they checked he was actually in a diabetic 'coma' rather than a heart issue. They rushed him to the hospital where they straightened him out. He came home the next day. For about 3 days he could barely whisper and kept saying 'they must have put something down my throat because it's so sore'. Lol I didn't dare tell him I dosed him with habannero cayenne tincture. Samala, Renee Well he sure tasted the cayenne before he got the pill down the face told me that and we pulled him out of the stroke he had a month ago with zero lasting impact. But yes I can try him with minimal amounts to keep up the good work
RE: Cayenne / Aches pain was // Re: CSProstatitis
No, we were with him while they stabilized him. It was low blood sugar, they gave him something, then got him to eat, then let him sleep. I went and got him the next morning. It was the cayenne. I've never had a sore throat either, but then he NEVER ate anything hot, complained about black pepper on his food, and I gave him 2 full droppers of hab tincture with my wild chili pequins added in. and those chili pequins are even hotter than habs! I think because he was out of it the swallowing may have gone slowly, or maybe it happened because he never took anything hot. Whatever the reason, it was the tinc. Samala, Renee I have never had my throat sore from cayenne, particularly the next day. HOWEVER, when I had to go the hospital and they put a tube down my throat which they could have well done with your father, it was sore for the next few days. I still recall how that felt!
RE: Cayenne / Aches pain was // Re: CSProstatitis
No, he never checked his blood sugar. The doctors were exasperated with him, and finally just said-take 2 shots a day of x amount of insulin. His doc didn't like it but they knew dad would never check and it was the only way to 'control' the diabetes. And because he took shots Dad figured he could eat whatever he wanted. It was frustrating. He'd never had his sugar drop that low before and it was the first time he ever was out of it. then it happened 2 more times. The second time they took him to the ER but the third time they said-we can take him, but now you know what it is and you can give him such and such here at home and get him out of it. do you want us to take him? I said no, and brought him out of it myself. Mom got really sick and passed not too long after that, and by then Dad was blind so moved in with us and I got his diabetes under control. Started taking his blood tests because he couldn't tell me no like he could Mom. J Yeah, Dad loved salt. And he had chronic constipation. But I've heard a lot of theories about why people get type 2. And it can always be cured with the correct food, so-food related. Oddly though, Peter Kulish has said that his enzyme product removes plaque from the arteries. To test this out he gave it to several doctors that he knows to test on their patients. Not only did it clear the arteries, the diabetics who were on the circulation enzymes became un-diabetic. They couldn't figure out why as the enzymes didn't have a thing to do with sugar or diabetes. Finally they theorized that the enzymes were not just cleaning the walls of the arteries but that they must have also been cleaning the CELL walls of plaque too, and that once the plaque was off the cell walls of the pancreas, it started working again normally and the symptoms of diabetes stopped! Very interesting, huh? Samala, Renee I have heard that diabetes (and appendicitis) are due to chronic constipation?
RE: CSrebounding.
They are not that bad for you. it's not necessary for moving lymph to even have your feet off the trampoline. A gentle bounce is enough with the feet staying on the mat. If you are interested in actual exercising on the trampoline then you'd be doing those high jumps, twists, turns etc which could hurt your knees. but if you want it just for moving lymph the cheap ones are just fine. Samala, Renee Really? How come everything I can afford is crap not good for you in some way. oh well, just some good shoes and walking.So much for my mini-tramp!
RE: CSNew to List in Pittsburgh, PA - PART 1
There are homeopathic drops for dogs that are suppose to work very good. You have to google for them as I don't recall where I saw them before. Samala, Renee Back to dogs, My brother has a 2yr old dobie that was spade and now leaks urine. She doesn't even know when it happens. Is there anything that can help her.
CSnew cancer threapy
My brother just sent me this from the dallas paper website by JANET ST. JAMES WFAA Posted on June 8, 2012 at 6:46 PM Updated today at 1:52 PM Related: * LINK: Forest Park Medical Center http://forestparkmc.com/ DALLAS - Walking is just fine with 58-year-old Mary Cecil, who used to be an avid runner. I was running and I started feeling pain in my left leg, and it was also tender when I slept on that side, she said. Cecil suspected a shin splint or pulled muscle. A bone scan, however, revealed a rare and aggressive tumor called dedifferentiated chondrosarcoma. The bone cancer is virtually unstudied. According to limited information, only one in 10 diagnosed with it survive two years. Very scary, recalled Cecil of how she felt upon learning of the diagnosis. The world just turned upside down in one visit here. Cecil had surgery to remove the cancerous part of her femur and replace it with a metal implant, but that wasn't enough. She struggled with powerful chemotherapy medications. Ms. Cecil's tumor was resistant to every single drug that we were giving her, said Dr. Jorge Casas, an orthopaedic oncologist at Forest Park Medical Center. And it was resistant to most of the drugs that we would have given her. Casas said chemo-sensitivity tests were ordered in this case because the cancer is so difficult to treat. In other more common cancers, studied regularly, tests have previously shown what drugs may work best. Based on the sensitivity test, and new research, Forest Park doctors decided to try an unconventional approach, using over-the-counter vitamin D and the common arthritis drug, Celebrex. Recent studies show vitamin D does more than just reinforce strong bones. The vitamin D can inhibit growth of the cancer cells, Casas explained. Celebrex has been shown to inhibit a process called angiogenesis, which is the formation of new blood vessels in other unrelated cancers. It worked. A year after diagnosis, Cecil is considered cancer-free. Casas said the combination has shown positive results in other bone cancer cases recently too. He also gave credit to collaborating with other doctors willing to consider alternative cancer therapies. The more communication there is between the different doctors, the more out-of-the-box treatments that we're going to see. I'm just thankful to be mobile and able to exercise, Cecil said. And though Cecil may never run again, she is thrilled to be walking, and alive. E-mail jstja...@wfaa.com javascript:location.href='mailto:'+String.fromCharCode(106,115,116,106,97,1 09,101,115,64,119,102,97,97,46,99,111,109)+'?subject=cancer%20treatment' Yeah, celebrex isn't that great to be on long term, but in a case like this, for a year or so, I think it would be fine. Samala, Renee
RE: CSmicrowave food: hard-boiled vibrations
Well, I've always heard that there is an antidote growing within x number of feet of pi or po, but I've never seen anything here to antidote the po. No jewel weed, no wild acorn, no nothing in local accounts from natives. Jewel weed doesn't grow here--too hot. We have live oak, which has acorns, but that's it. I wish there was something but I've never run into a native or an herbalist that knows of anything local. And--granted, last year was one of the worst summers in history here as we had over 60 days of 100 plus temps and of course, no rain--so maybe that is part of the reason or not, but the poison oak is RAMPANT this year! I've never seen it spread so fast, nor be so prolific in growth as this year. Oddly, I've heard others in other parts of the country on different lists say the same thing about po and pi in their part of the country! That both are just growing like crazy and spreading everywhere. I wonder what that's all about? Samala, Renee -Original Message- Also, Jewelweed will do the same thing -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSmicrowave food: hard-boiled vibrations
I could see that being true. Euell Gibbons use to say that he ate 3 small pi leaves every day in the spring and that it kept him from ever having a reaction. I've just never gotten up enough nerve to try it! :) Samala, Renee -Original Message- From: PTFerrance [mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net] An old timer I knew many years ago, who just happened to raise Nubian goats told me that her goats had a natural immunity to PI and a way to get rid of it once you had contracted it was to drink goats milk after the goat had been dining on the PI. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSour Flower Essence conversation
Bizarre, huh? Although-who do I turn to for info? Google. Yet I thought private lists were, well, private. Samala, Renee From: Jane MacRoss [mailto:highfie...@internode.on.net] Unless you specify to stop google it has access to everything everyone
RE: CSour Flower Essence conversation
Well, I know about harvesting personal preferences-I see ads for things in SA in the little sections on google because it knows where I live. I just didn't think it would access private groups. I did see a way (someone wrote about it) to stop google from looking at where I am, so I set that and now g doesn't show these things. Still-personal preferences are not private group messages. I wonder if duck accesses private groups. So it doesn't matter which browser we use, g is still going to access the groups information, whether we use google or not. Samala, Renee From: Elizabeth Williams [mailto:belzi...@hotmail.com] duckduckgo does not harvest their customers information. it is the seach engine that I use.
RE: CSmicrowave food: hard-boiled vibrations
Lol--I have poison oak flower essences! Haven't had a lot of use for it yet, and it's for stubbornness (to relieve it) and I thought perhaps an antidote to poison oak rash, but it's not. That was just MY thinking--the antidote thing, not from the plant itself. First you have to know your plant, to know if it is poisonous or not. You need to get a very good wild flower book, and/or a wild plant book for your local area. I have 3 that I use all the time for our area, because no one book will have them all. If I find a plant I don't know it's usually in 2 of the books but not the third, so if I only happened to use the one book that didn't have it, I wouldn't learn the plant. So go through your books at the store to see how many cross-overs they have. My third book is a book on local trees, bushes and flowers, which is great if I find a bush I don't know. Then you still need to sit with the plant to see what it will do, essence wise, to see if you want/need it or not. You do not have to worry about the essence doing what the plant would do if you touched or ate it--because the energy of the physical plant is different than the energy of the flower essence. Still, if you are worried about a plant being poisonous, then simply don't use it. With literally hundreds of different plants at your fingertips, you can certainly pass up a couple. You will find that if you start making a lot of essences, many of them will be for the same type of thing. Like I have probably 4 that are all grounding, though each has secondary things that are different from each other. It's best to make just a few essences and try them to see if you like them. I know what it's hard at first because you want to make them ALL! Lol especially if the plants start calling you. But unless you have a client base to use them on (we did, my partner and I, and we had a hypnotist that used them with her clients, etc) there's not a lot of need for 100 essences. I found the difference between Bach's essences and most other 'modern' essences is that Bach really restricted his practitioners. He worked with people right after the war and they were dealing with all sorts of negative issues, so all his essences were basically for negative things--to fix them. Sadness, depression, grief, etc. when he had all he felt that covered all their problems he said--that's it, that's all you will ever need, don't make any other essences! That's why you'll see makers like me and others have hundreds of essences and Bach only has his few (in comparison). His practitioners can't go making new essences! But in reality, essences are far more than for relieving negative issues. The plants want to help us grow, develop. They work on raising vibration, on bringing in more joy, on opening to being a channel, to helping with getting better luck, more romance, and all sorts of things that Bach never even considered. He got what he NEEDED and then didn't look any further. The plants have so much more to offer us. So don't be afraid of plants--be aware of touching a dangerous plant that you might have a reaction to, but you won't get any dark or negative energy from any essence. I have never, ever found that in any of mine (about 200 different ones) nor have I ever heard of any maker running across this. Hope this helps. Samala, Renee -Original Message- From: Lisa [mailto:blacksa...@comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 8:22 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSmicrowave food: hard-boiled vibrations Renee, Thank you so much for this invaluable information! You have such great knowledge and it's wonderful that you're willing to share it. My concern with essences (I do have all the Bach flower essences) and although I would love to expand with mores...I'd worry about any poisonous flowers that would cause harm. I know that we have several different things here in the Northeast and I wouldn't trust myself to be sure that a pretty flower would help rather than harm. What's your suggestion on this? Thank you. Lisa -Original Message- From: Renee [mailto:gaiac...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 11:15 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSmicrowave food: hard-boiled vibrations Essences are very easy to make. There's no trick to it, and you don't have to 'talk' to plants to make it--though it helps. :) The more you make essences, the more you work with plants, the more you learn to communicate with them. But I tell beginners to just go with whatever flower they are drawn to. Go outside and notice the plants, the flowers. See which one you are drawn to. Then ask the plant if it wants to be an essence for you. I've always gotten a yes except one time--and that wasn't a no, it was a 'wait'. I had to wait a whole year, so there must have been something the plant wanted to do before working as an essence. Plants LOVE to work with people. Anyway--ask if it is ok to take some flowers to make
RE: CSRe: Plant essences / Renee / was s
You are welcome. I enjoy 'teaching'. :) Samala, Renee -Original Message- Renee I really appreciate your generosity in sharing. Gayla -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSFlower Essences
lol--sit with the plants for a month and you'll know more than I do!! I will send a list of my essences and what they 'do', but I don't think attachments are allowed on this list? I can send it privately to anyone who wants it so they can see what essences do--just write me off list at gaiac...@gmail.com Most plants have more than one 'response', does more than just one thing, but one will be the main thrust and the others are side shoots, so to speak. You can look at the list and see what energetics you are interested in. Then you can cross reference my local plants with your local plants to see if they grow in your area. Some do, some do not. In fact, you have WAY more flowering plants in the northeast than we have here in south texas. Many places do. I went nuts when I visited Washington state to teach an essence class. My host took me to a huge botanical garden and we (the class) made essences there by pouring water over the flowers, since we were not allowed to pick flowers. Then every time she took me somewhere I was crazed watching the roadside flowers. I recognized many because I'm originally from Illinois and there are many more wildflowers there than here in south texas, but I didn't know about essences when I lived there. So I'd see their equivalent on the roadways in Washington, and want to stop and couldn't. Although I did get to walk along the streets that bordered woods by where my host lived, so made many there. It was a trip trying to get them home on the plane--finding room for all those bottles, wrapping them so they wouldn't break. And then all the plants that I didn't know from back home. They literally took my breath away! Here in south texas it is not a diverse plant area. Not so many herbs or wild foods as up north either. So you may find some of my texas plants (which are about the only ones in my catalog) where you are, but you will have a much greater opportunity to get to learn your local plants and what their essences will do. It's simply a matter of being with the plants. Get quiet and literally sit with them. Decide on a plant, sit down, ask the plant what it wants to do through you. Because--just because a goldenrod plant here does one thing through me, does NOT automatically mean it will do the same thing through you! You may ask that it will do the same, and expect it to do the same, and the plant will accommodate you and do just that. But it may have a totally different desire to express when working through YOU. I taught my students that my rosemary is for joy, but that there is a man in Scotland whose rosemary is for memory problems, and that there's one in Australia whose rosemary is for repelling negative energy. Now--if mine is for joy, does that make theirs invalid? Absolutely not. Even though they are the same plants, plants are working THROUGH the maker and want to do different things through each maker. Because as much as we try not to put ourselves into the energy of the essence, we ARE a part of each essence. And so the plant has the right to choose what it wishes to express THROUGH each maker. I told them that since ALL rosemary essences were valid, it was up to the end user to decide which essence they needed/wanted, and which seemed a better fit for them. Energy is an interactive process. It is the users job to get a feel for the essence, (meaning asking if they really need that essence at that time, and which company's essences works best for them) and it's the essence's job to to bring that energy into harmony with the user. Samala, Renee -Original Message- WOW! Would I just LOVE to sit with you for a month and learn as much as I could :o) -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSFlower Essences
Um, the folks here are not as open as you would think. I had a friend that made an essence of mountain cedar, to stop mt cedar allergies, and the center was not inclined to carry his essence. Maybe if a person went with strictly emotional/spiritual things instead so they wouldn't be worried about fda type interference. shrug At the time I was the only tx native flower essence maker that did more than just dabble in it. There were a couple people that made perhaps a dozen or so, but none that did all that I did. But I've been 'away' from it for a couple years now so don't know if there's another that specializes in tx native. The wildflower center is a great place though! Samala, Renee -Original Message- Can you get to Austin? Just outside there is a botanical garden founded by Lady Bird Johnson. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSFlower Essences--free help on line
You know, I totally forgot to say that it's really good to take some good photos of the flowers you make essences from. It's just a great extra thing to do. And I had remembered that years ago I found a site on line that placed very good images of their flowers (for essences) on line and said that you could get the same energy from looking at the photos as you did from taking the essences. I never tried that, but thought it was a wonderful thing for them to do. So I've just looked and found their site, which has been greatly updated. Of course you can buy their essences, but they do have this whole section of photos and explains exactly how to work with the essence energy through the photos! So you might want to give that a try, too. http://www.nmessences.com/healing/index.html samala, Renee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSFlower Essences
Oh, I'm too forgetful today! Lol I also forgot to say that pretty much all the flowers at the center also grow here on my 4 acres. If not, then I can usually find them out in the country on the roadsides. Most of my essences were made from flowers here at my place though. Only a few I got from roadside. Theirs is just in a prettier layout than my 'wild' yard. :) Samala, Renee -Original Message- Can you get to Austin? Just outside there is a botanical garden founded by Lady Bird Johnson. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSour Flower Essence conversation
I was just searching around and for fun thought I'd put in texas native flower essences to see what other makers there might be out there-and discovered that our conversation is already on google! I had no idea google had access to the silver list archives. Samala, Renee
RE: CSFlower Essences
You are welcome, Melly. Samala, Renee From: Melly Bag [mailto:tita_...@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 8:56 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSFlower Essences Renee, Thank you for sharing how to make the flower essence. You are very generous to always share what you know, and there is plenty of knowledge in that brain of yours.. More power to you. Take care. Melly
RE: Plant essences / Renee / was / Re: CSmicrowave food: hard-boiled vibrations
Hey PT. Yes, I've heard of plant spirit medicine. And the one (maybe it's the same?) where the guy hears the plants singing--actually hears them, and he's a musician so he can duplicate their songs! Amazing, huh? No, I never bother to wash any of the flowers off. Never even gave that a thought! They never asked and I it never occurred to me. If you live in a city where you have much smog and such then it would probably be a good thing to wait for a rain, or take a sprinkling can with you and 'wash' them. It gets very hot, dry and dusty here, but I've never really noticed anything on the flowers. Sometime leaves, but not flowers. This is not to say the flowers don't also get dirty, just that I've never noticed. I usually try to do my essence making in the morning, anyway, so maybe they are cleaner from night dew. Samala, Renee -Original Message- One question, do you pick things after a rain or do you somehow wash off the part you are going to use? Things around here can get pretty dirty! :-) -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSmicrowave food: hard-boiled vibrations
Essences are very easy to make. There's no trick to it, and you don't have to 'talk' to plants to make it--though it helps. :) The more you make essences, the more you work with plants, the more you learn to communicate with them. But I tell beginners to just go with whatever flower they are drawn to. Go outside and notice the plants, the flowers. See which one you are drawn to. Then ask the plant if it wants to be an essence for you. I've always gotten a yes except one time--and that wasn't a no, it was a 'wait'. I had to wait a whole year, so there must have been something the plant wanted to do before working as an essence. Plants LOVE to work with people. Anyway--ask if it is ok to take some flowers to make an essence. You will feel a yes or no, a positive or negative feeling inside you. If you get a positive feeling you then ask how many flowers you will need. The first number that pops into your head will be how many. Don't second guess yourself. Normally I usually get 3 or 4, but sometimes it has been 6 and sometimes only 1. Now, you need a small jar, like a baby food jar. You can make as much of an essence as you want, but since you literally use drops of the mother tincture and then drops of the stock bottle, a little goes a long way. Making even a half cup of essence will last you and your family a lifetime. So, small jar with good water. Well water, spring water or distilled water. A pair of scissors, a lid for the jar, a small strainer. Fill the jar half way with water (leaving room for alcohol as a preservative). Ask the plant how many flowers. When you get the number take the scissors and clip that many flowers into the lid of the jar. I do this so as not to touch the flowers, trying to keep 'me' out of the essence--though of course the energy of the maker does get in. Once the flowers are clipped into the lid, tilt them into the jar of water. Set the jar in the sun, lid off. I rarely have bugs get in. I think the energy is too strong. I pick a spot that is 'bare' to set the jar. I use a tree stump, but you can use a sidewalk, or a driveway. If you set it on the ground or in other plants you will pick up that energy. I place my hands around the jar, not touching it, and say a prayer asking the light of the sun to place the energy of the plant into the water so that all who partake of the essence will be healed. You will feel the energy stop flowing from your hands, so stop then. Leave the jar sitting in the sun for however long you like. I learned that the summer south texas sun will evaporate a LOT of water in just 2 hours, lol, so I usually try to do mine in the morning. Sometimes it sits for an hour, sometimes 2 or 3. When you feel the essence is ready, bring it in. strain out the flowers and put the water back into the jar. Now add the same amount of alcohol (I use vodka but traditional is brandy, use what you like) as you have water. If you have a quarter cup water add a quarter cup alcohol. Label this as your mother tincture, with the name of the flower. Sit with this and after a while you'll get what this essences is for. Or just take it and see what happens. To make your dosage bottle you take your mother tincture, get another bottle with half water, half alcohol. Ask the mother essence how many drops you need to make the stock bottle. The number that pops into your head is right. Place that many drops of essence into the new bottle, label it as your stock bottle and put the flower name on it. Now from the stock bottle, you will make your dosage bottle. Take a dropper bottle, fill with half water, half alcohol. Ask the stock bottle how many drops you need to put into the dosage bottle. Now you have your essence! You can see that you need very little of the mother essence because you use just drops of that to make a stock bottle and then drops of the stock to make your dosage bottle. Any questions--just ask. Samala, Renee -Original Message- Would you share how you make the essences? Thanks. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: Plant essences / Renee / was / Re: CSmicrowave food: hard-boiled vibrations
Yes, the dosage bottle is the bottle you take from. I tell people to do what feels right to them. I get a lot of folks asking 'how many drops, how many times a day for how many days' because they are use to doctor prescriptions. It's not like that with essences. I tell people they should get use to trusting their bodies. I COULD muscle test them to see how many, how long, but instead I say 'just suck some up into the dropper and that's how much you take. Your body knows exactly how many drops to put into that dropper. Put the bottle on your bathroom counter. Every time you go into the bathroom take some. When you start going--'oh, I have to take some of my essence' but then you go to the bathroom and come out and only later you realized you DIDN'T take any, then you are pretty much through with that essence'. Yes, you can use bark, seeds, leaves, whatever. People make essences from butterflies, whales, gasses, etc--they will take a photo of say, a whale, and meditate with it and say 'put the energy of the whale into this bottle'. Now, I stick with flower essences :) but it's possible to do anything and everything. When I started making them I got the hit that the seed essence of the SAME flower plant would give a different energy than the flowers did. I asked and got yes. So would leaves. So I thought--how cool would that be, an essence of the flower, the seed, the leaf? But I never got around to making anything but the flower because once you have a hundred flower essences, then you start on a hundred seed essences and then a hundred leaf essences--well, you run out of room, out of bottles, out of time. :) And yes--if a plant is growing/flowering by you, and you are drawn to it--then it has something for you. There are a lot of plants that you may not be drawn to, though you think the flowers smell nice, or are pretty. It's when you pay attention you learn which ones you 'need'. But they SO want to help. I hardly go anywhere where there is a flower that isn't already an essence and I get 'me, over here, ME, pick me!' lol I do mostly texas native essences but do have a few that are not wildflowers, but houseplants, because they were so insistent. And you don't have to just orally take essences. You can put some water in a spray bottle, add the essence and spray your area, your bed, your car. Some ladies carry their favorite bottle in their bra, though pockets work too, to keep the essence in your aura. Place some in your bath water. Lots of ways to use them. Samala, Renee -Original Message- From: Jane MacRoss [mailto:highfie...@internode.on.net] Is the dosage bottle the bottle you ingest the essence from? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSwater alkalizers and silver
Um, don't think so. According to some articles the only way to get a high ph (anything over neutral) is if the water has a lot of minerals in it. That's why the expensive machines also have a setting for dropping in liquid minerals so that as the water makes the ph it stays. Best CS is made when there's very little of anything in the water. So I have to wonder if adding minerals to water to get and stabilize the higher ph, if that would exclude good CS. Maybe I'll ask this on Mike's silver list. It's a good question. Samala, Renee Anyhow, I suppose one could run DW through an alkalizer and then use that to brew CS.
RE: CSwater alkalizers and silver
You always have to have something in the middle to keep the flow of water 'out' of the other container. Some use sponges, some use pure cotton wadded up, some use chamois cloth. Since one container is acid and one alkaline water, if they were to flow across and mix freely you wouldn't have acid or alkaline-it may easily be neutral. But you do need something that allows the current to flow across-hence the filter in between. There's some good videos on making your own alkalizer, one place where you can buy a nice looking set up for around $150 but all of these suggest stainless steel or titanium. Titanium is actually better, but according to this site http://www.freshandalive.com/fresh_and_alive_content/products-ionizer-fna-2g .htm you should really get platinum coated titanium, which can be hard to source. He shows a vid of 'plain' titanium being etched away by this electric process. The image he shows of the titanium in the vid is a long half-pipe looking piece, yet the close up on his actually for-sale machine looks like a little one inch piece. I wrote him asking about this discrepancy and he said the long pipe was to show how much the titanium got eaten away along the edges, and that the coated small piece will NEVER wear out-because I had asked him about replacement times. So it would seem to me that for the money from his site you'd actually be getting the best device, plus I'm thinking you could use these coated titanium pieces and the electric plug for making a foot bath device. Yeah, you'd have to clean the electrodes VERY good, but-since the coated electrodes never wear out you'd be getting 2 devices for pretty much one price. For the foot baths all you'd need to buy would be 2 plastic shoe boxes. Seems like a good deal. Supposedly the cost for his unit is because of the coated titanium. I think this may be true because as I searched around for a supply for the coated titanium all I could find was 1 inch pieces (which is what his looks like) at $65 each-so that's 130 just in the titanium. So less than a hundred for the containers, the plug in and the cotton wad filter. You could probably find these things for cheaper, but if someone didn't want to mess gathering parts from all over his is the best deal out there. The $150 one uses titanium, if I remember right, but it's not coated and eventually you'll have to replace the electrodes. Samala, Renee From: David AuBuchon [mailto:aubuchon.da...@gmail.com] Do DIY alkalizers like this really work? http://www.instructables.com/id/Water-Alkalizer-or-Ioniser-for-5/?ALLSTEPS Sounds like a big money saver over commerical products. Assuming they have value to begin with.
RE: CSwater alkalizers and silver
I think if that were the case then someone would already be doing it. Once the material is saturated the water shouldn't flow across at all, so it's actually a block, I would think. Whereas any size opening, without a block, would admit water through as a flow, even if it was very narrow. Samala, Renee From: David AuBuchon [mailto:aubuchon.da...@gmail.com] Perhaps if you omitted the sponge, but made the connecting tube rally narrow, that the electrolysis would outpace the mixing of the water, and some distinct product could be produced with silver electrodes?
RE: CSmicrowave food: hard-boiled vibrations
And me. :) I've made just over 100 different essences from the native texas flowers. I just love essences. They are indeed very powerful, yet gentle. There are actually makers from all over the world now. A very good one is in Australia. The Alaska maker is very good. Perelandra has excellent ones. Well, in fact--all essences are wonderful. And simple to make your own. If you are drawn to certain flowers, then those flowers have something for you. An essence from them could be exactly what a person needs. Samala, Renee -Original Message- Yup, tose flower remedys ertainly do work. Did anyone know that there are several other flower essences out there besides just the Bach? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSmicrowave food: hard-boiled vibrations
When I would do shows Id place a big bowl on the table and fill it with bottles of essences. People would come over and want me to tell them what essence they needed, or theyd want to read my catalog to see what they needed. Id tell themdont tell me your problem. Just spend a moment thinking of your problem you want to work on, then reach into the bowl and pull out an essence. Theyd do that, and tell me the essence. Wed look into the catalog to see what the essence was for (since I had so many it was hard for me to remember what each one did, lol) and theyd get such a shocked look on their face and would exclaim this is EXACTLY for what I was thinking about. Lol I told them yes, the body knows. The subconscious knows. Theyd buy it and then want a prescription for how to use ithow many drops, how many times per day and for how many days. Id tell themyour body just showed you it knows. Now, I can muscle test you and tell you, but you need to learn to listen to your body. Put the dropper in and whatever it sucks up is exactly the amount you need. Put the bottle on your bathroom counter. Take some every time you go in there. When you start thinking Ive got to take my essence while Im in the bathroom BUT you forget to take it, then you will know youve had enough. I found that when I was filling bottles that say would need 6 drops of the mother tincture, Id suck up exactly 6 drops! The body knows. The subconscious knows. We just have forgotten to listen. Samala, Renee From: Guyot Léna [mailto:drumr...@stny.rr.com] I've noticed when practicing hypnotherapy, that when clients visualized going through a door into a garden, they'd often find a particular flower of extra radiance and appeal. When we'd look it up, it would often be the exact medical or homeopathic plant needed. The subconscious knows so much!
RE: CSWas: Macular Degeneration; Is: Being Courteous: Open-mindedness to healing modalities
I hope you get that machine soon so you can get rid of your headaches. So sorry you have to suffer so much, but yet you still think of others. Samala, Renee -Original Message- The silver has arrived from HM. I'm too sick to do anything with it. I'll clean it and stick it in the Anchor Hocking Stainless cannister. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSWas: Macular Degeneration; Is: Being Courteous: Open-mindedness to healing modalities
Well, unless the forums are full of negativity I find that any forum or group will die when there's no moderator. And sometimes the moderators just step away for whatever reason--health, personal issues, etc. Don't give up on the machine. If other people got success with it you will too. Remember, with all healing modalities--ALL OF THEM--belief and intent is the biggest part of it. Frequencies work--we know that much. So if the machine actually does send out frequencies of any sort, and you believe it will work, it will work. I've seen it happen all the time. People will say--that's not possible, but of course it is when someone believes. Get some rest. Samala, Renee -Original Message- Things are not looking so good as before. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: Cooking was // Re: CSRemoving Silver Tarnish
lolol Samala, Renee -Original Message- Note to self: do not discuss sex, politics, religion, or microwave on silverlist. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSWas: Macular Degeneration; Is: Being Courteous: Open-mindedness to healing modalities
Tip of the iceberg. Lol Got to run this morning but yeah, I'll post links when I get home this afternoon, late. Here's one to get you started. Simple, but I think it will be powerful. www.mirmethod.com if you google there's also a tapping extravaganza going on now or just starting very soon. A whole bunch of tapping (EFT) experts give 1 hour talks for free. Of course they will sell their products in the end but it's never a big push. They mention it and the host always has 'deals', which are great. It's usually around 100 bucks for something worth 300 on up, depending on the speaker. But you don't need any of it if you do some research on eft. Everything you need to know is on line for free. DMT is dyna-mind technique by Serge King. Google Serge King DMT and the page will pop up. It's just one page long and all you need to know--the how and the why. It's a retrofit of EFT into a simpler method based on Huna, which is what Serge teaches (he was my Huna teacher). Samala, Renee -Original Message- WOW! That's a lot of different things -- and I for one would LOVE to learn more about them. Are there groups and/or web links that you could provide for us to learn more about these different methods? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSWas: Macular Degeneration; Is: Being Courteous: Open-mindedness to healing modalities
I wish I could afford one. Reading about it--hardly anyone has a Polaroid camera anymore and they've stopped making the film, though a secondary company still makes small batches of the necessary film. So since almost no one will be able to take a Polaroid photo of themselves or their clients, how will this machine work? Most black boxes will accept spit or blood. Some say digital images, though others say a digital does not contain the necessary frequencies for the machine to 'attach' to. And--if the machine does all that it says it does, why would anyone need to attach a frequency device to run frequencies through it? It sounds like it does enough work on its own to not need external frequencies. Samala, Renee -Original Message- I looked at some of the other machines, but the ABPA A2 appears to be the closest to the SE-5. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSWas: Macular Degeneration; Is: Being Courteous: Open-mindedness to healing modalities
Hmmm, that's exactly what my cousin, who worked in computers for the government (when they took up whole rooms, he was sent to fix them), told me 25 years ago when I asked him what he thought of the Comodor 64. He told me-outside of maybe keeping track of recipes, there's nothing in a computer anyone needs. They say it does word processing. You can still write letters on a typewriter so who needs word processing. Save your money and in a short while you'll see these sitting at garage sales for $10. J Samala, Renee From: Tel Tofflemire [mailto:telt...@cableone.net] Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 9:02 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSWas: Macular Degeneration; Is: Being Courteous: Open-mindedness to healing modalities This junk has come and gone over the years, but people still pay $1,000's of dollars to try it. We can see it all in a yard sale in a few years, so save your money Wait for the garage sale. Tel, Herbalist
RE: CSWas: Macular Degeneration; Is: Being Courteous: Open-mindedness to healing modalities
Hey Lena. So you run both most of the time. Is the Fscan hooked up to the ABPA 2 or do you run them separate? Just curious. Im glad you found something that works since Ive read how bad lyme is for most people. A terrible thing. Samala, Renee After 45+ years of Lyme, I'm unwilling to lose any ground at the moment. Be well, Léna
RE: CSWas: Macular Degeneration; Is: Being Courteous: Open-mindedness to healing modalities
Whew--that digital explanation sounds like a bunch of nonsense. A digital image is a digital image, whether it's in a flash drive, on a computer or in his device. The idea that his device is the only one that makes a loop just sounds phony. The way they make it sound would be like you'd have to do the photo taking to have that in the device, because otherwise, if someone across the country took their own photo and sent you the digital image then you stored that digital image into their device--how would it still 'track' the person, since it wasn't taken with the device itself? They are saying their device will take any digital image and then track it--but how is that possible if it's a still digital image taken days, weeks, months ago? So basically what they have is something that you input a digital image into, then it 'transfers' that image to that flat green (probably metal) sheet that fits into the photo well on the machine. Then supposedly it will track the person. Maybe because it's on the plate which fits? If that's the case then buying one of those little keychain things that hold x number of digital photos should work too, because they'd fit in the slot and would contain the digital image. Because the Awhatever machine did the tracking for the Polaroid, which means if a digital is input into the slot/well, then it should be able to track it too. And a cheap way of fitting an actual digital image into that slot, and not a printed out copy of the digital image (which probably wouldn't work as it wouldn't have the digital signal) then a small digital image holder should do the same thing as it will have the image actually showing while a flash drive simply contains the image but doesn't show it. I think all they are doing is showing the image inside the slot so the machine can 'see' it like it 'saw' the Polaroid. At least that's my theory. :) Samala, Renee -Original Message- There is a digital interface so you can input photos. I think the purpose for the photo is a bit different than simply running frequencies through it. They claim it works as good as the Polaroid, but it is very expensive: -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSbacteria
If you go to a jewelry store you should be able to buy non-tarnish paper. It's a paper impregnated with something that will stop tarnish. You can put it into a box with silver and the silver will stay nice for a long time. Things that you want to set out to look at and occasionally use you put car wax on. Polish the silver so it shines, then put a thin coating of a good car way. Rub that (buff) and there you are--sealed from the air so no tarnish. Jewelry stores (who don't like to tell you this little secret) will wax their big pieces and set them out. Then all they have to do is dust them. You can't, naturally, do this for inside something like a pitcher or tea pot that you will be drinking out of, but you can on the outside of it, or vases or plates or whatever. So long as your food isn't coming into direct contact with the car wax you will be fine for the occasional use of a waxed item. Samala, Renee -Original Message- I put mine in a plastic zip lock bag...Debbie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSWas: Macular Degeneration; Is: Being Courteous: Open-mindedness to healing modalities
I DO hope it works for you. What a blessing huh? Do let us know. If it's that good it may be worth saving up for. It's hard to distinguish which device is worth the money because there are so many, and a number of people on various lists have different machines and most all love the ones they have. So it's hard to say which one to spend money on. Samala, Renee -Original Message- This would be so nice if it works and gets rid of these headaches. I sure would like to be able to sleep longer than 3 or 4 hours, and not wake up clogged full of spores with a splitting headache and all the other crap from the toxins. Thanks, Mike Monett -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSWas: Macular Degeneration; Is: Being Courteous: Open-mindedness to healing modalities
Yes, I was just thinking about the cost of their special digital thingand how it would work. You can put just one image on a flash drive, but their info made it sound like because it wasnt being seen by the machine, it wouldnt send rebound messages. Of course, their green sheet doesnt show an actual image, but they were making it sound as if it contained the digital image. But like youI think the hair sample is fine. Thats how all the black boxes Ive ever seen workedon spit, blood, hair, a Polaroid even a signature written in ink by the person. So I dont really see a need for that expensive piece of equipment. Samala, Renee An ABPA A2 can only send to one subject at a time, so a thumb-drive with other photos would be counter-productive. Again, my ABPA A2 gets the frx to me using my DNA from hair sample in the input well. That's the way quantum entanglement works. I still have some Polaroid film for my camera, but prefer samples. They're more convenient and work just as well. Léna
RE: CSWas: Macular Degeneration; Is: Being Courteous: Open-mindedness to healing modalities
Oh, the only 'electric' lists I'm on is Dr. Loyds, Frex and microelectricgermkiller. I'm sure there are other good ones but since I don't have any machines (other than the Godzilla I put together and the FREX which I just recently got) and don't understand electronics enough to build one, these are the only ones I'm on. Godzilla is a simple 6 volt battery that works wonders for wounds, teeth, etc. FREX is a frequency device that does amazing things. You can download the whole frex software for free and run everything--the only thing is it is set to run for x amount of time and then you have to start it back up again, whereas if you buy the program you can set it to continous loop or however long you want it and it will run. It contains about all the different frequencies that are well known. Maybe someone else will tell us some good lists to join. If you are interested in FREX I can send the link. Going to be leaving the house for a few hours in just a moment so don't have time to--well, wait--here it is: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/frex/ here's dr loyd's list http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/drloyd/ neither is specific for the frex or Dr. Loyd's devices, but Dr. Loyd works long distance with people and has remedies and tincture to buy. Frex's list owner, Ken, is a chiropractor in Australia and very well informed about alternative health protocols. Lots of good information there. Samala, Renee -Original Message- From: Mike Monett [mailto:mrmon...@pstca.com] Thanks, Renee. If it works, I'll let you know. I tried to join two Yahoo groups but have not heard from the moderators. Can you tell me what other lists to look for? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSWas: Macular Degeneration; Is: Being Courteous: Open-mindedness to healing modalities
It's in the message. Read where I started to say I'd do it when I got back, but then I found it and put it in. Samala, Renee -Original Message- From: Lisa [mailto:blacksa...@comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 3:47 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSWas: Macular Degeneration; Is: Being Courteous: Open-mindedness to healing modalities Yes, please send a link for the frex device... -Original Message- From: Renee [mailto:gaiac...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 2:02 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSWas: Macular Degeneration; Is: Being Courteous: Open-mindedness to healing modalities Oh, the only 'electric' lists I'm on is Dr. Loyds, Frex and microelectricgermkiller. I'm sure there are other good ones but since I don't have any machines (other than the Godzilla I put together and the FREX which I just recently got) and don't understand electronics enough to build one, these are the only ones I'm on. Godzilla is a simple 6 volt battery that works wonders for wounds, teeth, etc. FREX is a frequency device that does amazing things. You can download the whole frex software for free and run everything--the only thing is it is set to run for x amount of time and then you have to start it back up again, whereas if you buy the program you can set it to continous loop or however long you want it and it will run. It contains about all the different frequencies that are well known. Maybe someone else will tell us some good lists to join. If you are interested in FREX I can send the link. Going to be leaving the house for a few hours in just a moment so don't have time to--well, wait--here it is: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/frex/ here's dr loyd's list http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/drloyd/ neither is specific for the frex or Dr. Loyd's devices, but Dr. Loyd works long distance with people and has remedies and tincture to buy. Frex's list owner, Ken, is a chiropractor in Australia and very well informed about alternative health protocols. Lots of good information there. Samala, Renee -Original Message- From: Mike Monett [mailto:mrmon...@pstca.com] Thanks, Renee. If it works, I'll let you know. I tried to join two Yahoo groups but have not heard from the moderators. Can you tell me what other lists to look for? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSNenah Sylver
Do you mean Spectro-Chrome colored light therapy? I LOVE S-C. Use it whenever we've had a need to and it always works great. Samala, Renee From: Shirley Reed [mailto:pj20...@yahoo.com] When I requested that some of the 'brighter lights' on this list check out colored light therapy, Nenah was the only one who did so
RE: CSWas: Macular Degeneration; Is: Being Courteous: Open-mindedness to healing modalities
-Original Message- From: Mike Monett [mailto:mrmon...@pstca.com] You sure have collected a lot of different healing methods! I wonder how many others there are you haven't mentioned yet:) Oh, lots and lots. :) Been at this alternative stuff for over 25 years now, ever since I had cancer. Just love to 'collect' information on healing. Never sick here so don't have a lot to experiment with, but I usually try things out when I can, just to see. I think some of the BEST methods are the easiest and are free to do. My favorite is The Emotion Code, then EFT, then DMT, then MIR. The Emotion Code is remarkable and uses muscle testing to release trapped emotions. EFT is a more complicated tapping procedure but once you learn it it's invaluable. DMT is a simplified tapping procedure that works wonders for physical problems. MIR is a new method I've just learned that I think will be very powerful, and is super simple to do. These emotional things SEEM to be 1) too simple to work 2) most people don't understand the emotional part of illness Because they are simple and free people often overlook them and don't understand their power. And then most people do not understand the underlying reason for illness, which is almost always buried in emotions. Even if you cure the physical problem if you don't deal with the emotions the problem simply comes back, usually in the same form but a different area, but sometimes even in the same area. That's why it's so common for a person to get cancer again--the doctor's famous '5 year' thing (if you make it 5 years cancer free you could possibly stay cancer free) because most people get it back in under 5 years. Just because you have it cut out, burnt out, etc, but you have NOT addressed the emotional aspects, the thought processes and looked for some spiritual answers, it just comes back. Address those 3 and you are almost sure never to be bothered by cancer again. It is said--and I believe it, that everything starts on the spiritual level and if corrected there we'd never get sick. But we are almost totally unaware of the spirit level. From there it goes to the mental level. Again, if we were aware and fixed the mental issue we would never get sick. Then it goes emotional level. If we stopped it there we'd never get sick. But we simply don't understand our emotions, let alone deal with them. So because we don't, then the body takes on physical symptoms of illness. We can't ignore that like we can emotions, thoughts and spirit. So though we may fix the physical symptoms, if we haven't dealt with the emotions especially, but also the thoughts and spirit, then illness simply comes back. And usually dealing with the emotions kind of also takes care of the thoughts that go along since thoughts and emotions are very closely linked. The spirit--well, any truly healthy person has a healthy spiritual side. You cannot live in darkness and be healthy. But it does help to address the spiritual side when ill, because that allows the physical 'cure' to happen faster. We are such wondrous beings! Oh shoot--how can I forget the SEM water cards and the SSS cards? They are also free and very powerful. :) and they work through the frequency category! Samala, Renee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSWas: Macular Degeneration; Is: Being Courteous: Open-mindedness to healing modalities
Forgot to say--no I didn't build the frex. It's software you download. Then you can run it through just the computer (which is all I have right now) or you can hook up plasma balls. Ken is working on a write up to teach people how to do this themselves. He use to sell plasma balls with the wiring already installed, but people would hook them to the computer wrong and would burn out the plasma. He's such a great and honest guy that he'd replace the balls for them so it became just too expensive so he quit. But he's going to tell us how to build our own. And there is another type of thing you can hook up to FreX but I can't think of it right now. It does everything any other frequency device does--runs frequencies! It has all the different frequencies built into it--the ones by different people. And it has the problems/diseases. So you pick the problem then show the frequencies and then you tell the software to send out the frequencies. Easy! But the least working method is just running the freqs through the computer speakers--yet some people get good results. There's a guy that Ken knows that is building something to add to FreX (like you would the plasma balls) that's suppose to be excellent. I'm waiting for that. Don't know what it will cost though. Samala, Renee -Original Message- From: Mike Monett [mailto:mrmon...@pstca.com] Did you build the FREX or get it from someone? I looked at the site earlier: http://www.frex.com.au/pfa2.html What kinds of things does it do? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT - solar energy
You can buy solar lights that have AA and triple A batteries that are rechargeable, for a couple bucks. Then you can not only use the lights as night lights in the house or yard, but you can recharge the batteries. I also bought a solar battery recharge at a co-op food store here. This will charge even C and D batteries. I paid about $20 for it. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- I live in Florida and am interested in possibly purchasing a small solar system for charging rechargeable batteries.
Re: CSCS: Why people won't listen
Lol--great line Marshall. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- I find that percentage wise more people listen to me then used to. That is primarily because many of those who did not are now dead. Marshall
Re: CSCipro
Yes, continue with the vibration as it increases blood circulation. And--do hot and cold treatments. Twice a day would be best, but at least once a day if that's all you can do. Dr. Christopher saved many toes and feet from being amputated this way. Get 2 buckets. Fill one with as hot water as the person can stand, and keep a kettle of hot water close by to add as the water cools. Fill the other with ice water, and leave ice cubes floating in it. They put a foot in the hot water for as long as they can stand it, then immediately into the cold water for as long as they can stand it. Then back to the hot, then cold, and so on, for as long as they want or are able. Usually a person only has the foot in each water bucket for 30 seconds to a minute. This alone has saved feet. The hot/cold forces the blood in and out of the area. The gangrene is due to lack of blood circulation. Also, cayenne tincture rubbed in will bring circulation. You should be able to buy a tincture in a health food store. Cayenne will bring blood to an area and though it may sting to rub it in, it will not damage skin--and if there is damaged skin it will help repair the skin. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- BTW he started using a vibration platform ten minutes three times a day and it seems to be helping with the circulation to his feet. We shall see. Kathy
Re: CSCipro hydro therapy
Hey Edith. Yes, they use to cure everything with different forms of hydrotherapy! They had special spas set up where nothing but various water therapies was used, including big hoses where water was sprayed on the body areas with huge force. Dr. Schulze said that he went to a hydroclinic. When he got there, there were all these old people sitting in wheelchairs on the front deck, all wrapped up in blankets. They were kind of blank faced and drooling. He felt bad for them and hoped the clinic would be able to help them. He then went through the full hydrotherapy program the clinic had. He said they wheeled him out, all wrapped up in a blanket, to the front deck, where he sat and drooled. It was all he could do--the hydrotherapy had been so strong and powerful, that as healthy as he was, he was just wasted from the procedures! Lol Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- Three days, he was good to go. Amazing, this hydro therapy stuff.
Re: CSwhat is in ACS 200?
There are certain things you can add to water to make it 'wetter'. In leather carving they do it all the time--it allows the water to not dry out/evaporate so fast so that you can carve longer without rewetting the leather. They use gum tragacanth for this. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- And what is the gimmick behind what they call wetter water?:
Re: CSEarlier Post on Domestic Magnetic Fields
Absolutely! I have a Brooks folder where I save ALL your information! Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- Ditto that!
Re: CSMMS
I make and sell it for $10 a bottle, plus a free empty bottle for your citric acid, and $5 shipping. You can contact me off list at gaiacita @ gmail.com Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- I've been reading the posts about MMS, and get Jim Humbles updates. Where is the best place to purchase MMS? Thankis, Kathy
Re: CSMMS
Thanks, people! Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- Buy it from Renee - she's on the list! happy.gif
RE: CSVetericyn and Microcyn
Ah, thanks Tom. You know me--always getting those two mixed up. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- MMS when mixed up makes chlorous acid. To get hypochlorous acid you have to use MMS2.happy.gif
Re: CSVetericyn and Microcyn
The base problem is figuring out WHY the dog is licking the foot? Pain? Arthritis? Something embedded under the skin? Allergy? Then address that. MMS does make hypochlorous acid, but there's no way to determine how much is being made. There are many good external things you can apply to kill pathogens--like aloe vera, sugar or honey, diluted MMS, tea tree oil, etc. Clearing the infection is going to be the easiest part--figuring out why the dog keeps licking the foot will be the hard part. It may be that they'll have to keep that part of the foot covered. Some dogs eventually get into a habit of foot licking which is hard to break. I had a dog that did it in the spring. There was something growing that he was allergic to. Oddly though, he only licked one foot! But the pads of the foot, and between the toes, was always red and raw from licking. I kept aloe on it, along with Vit. E, and would keep it wrapped. Then when summer came, I could undo the wrapping and he'd leave the foot alone. Next spring, same thing. My dog had long hair so I had to always trim all that hair between the toes to get the cream down to the skin. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- let him out with no cover on it, he licked it raw again. They tried colloidal silver, but they probably didn't spray it on often enough. Or, dab it, rather.he hates spray. This has been going on for months.
Re: CSWhere to buy MMS
Ummm, please what? You can write me at gaiac...@gmail.com if you are saying you want some MMS. I will need an address. If it's not an interest in MMS, I'm not sure what this is referring to? Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- Please! Frank
CSNew nasal sprayer
I don't know if others have seen this or not, but it's a first for me, as I almost never look in the OTC med section of any store. But I've been having some serious sinus issues this past week and finally decided it just wasn't going away on its own like it normally does. So I went to Walgreens to see about buying a nasal mister that I could pry the cap off of and fill with CS To my surprise I found the BEST sprayer. It's called SinuCleanse Kids Mist. It was developed by a children's doctor. It is extremely sturdy, the fill part being solid clear blue plastic. It has a pump on top with a long tube mister attached. The tube snugs down into a small clamp like device to keep it from moving around if you are carrying it in your purse. You unclamp the tube so that you can unscrew the top to refill it. The tube can actually be bent upwards at the end to angle it better into the nose. It came with 3 containers of 'non-drug' liquid which is, of course, saline solution. The main part of the container holds 100 measured sprays, so enough to last a long time before needing to refill. It can be thrown into a purse or pocket and it won't leak. The spray comes out as a very fine mist. The spray end is small so that it will fit into a child's nostril, but that just makes it easy to put inside an adult nose without feeling like it's filled your whole nose like you do with an adult spray bottle. I've filled it with CS and sprayed my nose and my throat and inhaled into my lungs. Very nice, very handy. It cost $10 and I think it will prove to be worth it, as it's going to last a very long time before a part wears out. The Afrin I was looking at, walgreens own brand, was $5 for a bottle that I would have had to force the top off of, and it's large to carry around, plus (because I did buy it too) it does not mist anywhere near as good as the Child's Mist. Samala, Renee
Re: CSNew nasal sprayer
Hey Saralou. That first link says $11.99 and a 2 buck off coupon. Thing is in my walgreens, it was $9.99 regular price. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- Here's a picture www.funsavingmoney.net/2010/10/sinucleanse-kids-mist-review.html
Re: CSWhere to buy MMS
I sell MMS. Mine is made to Jim Humble's specification. You get a 4 ounce bottle of MMS, and an empty bottle of the same size (with the same type dropper top) to put your acid in. This way you can get the same size drops of both MMS and your favorite acid (lemon juice, ACV, citric acid) The cost is $10 plus $5 shipping (actual price for a priority box). I have a paypal address. You can write me off list at gaiac...@gmail.com if you are interested. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- Is there a good quality site to buy MMS? Thanks Deb
Re: CSMy protocal for Cats Tumor
Ok, thanks. Makes sense. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- The morning MMS has anywhere from 3 to 5 drops with citric acid at about 15 drops... after setting for 3 minutes I add approx 1/8 c. prill water with 2 drop DMSO... from this mixture I use the 1 teaspoon for feeding... so the drops are definitely deluted down and given over the course of the entire day; and there would still be a small amount left in the bottle that I throw away.
Re: CSMy protocal for Cats Tumor
How much MMS are you giving the cat? Recommended dose for a cat is only one drop MMS to (old method) 5 drops 10% citric acid. New method is one drop MMS to 1 drop citric. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- In the morning I prepared the daily MMS batch (with 3 drops DMSO added after preparing), Then I placed the contents of a Serrepeptase pill in a Tbls of DMSO (with CS) mixture.
Re: Mercola was // Re: CSDistilled Water....MORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?!
I have a PC and have never gotten spammed from his site. And I've been going there for years. Have even bought a few things. Yep, his style has changed, but he noted a few years ago, that he was trying to market more to raise more money to spread education about alternative health. He even named the marketer he was using. This is that marketer's style--as 'fear' mongering actually entices more people to read articles than a calm headline Sad, but true. If you've been on alternative health sites and lists for very long, you can almost tell by the headline whether it's worth reading or not--as Mercola isn't actually saying anything strikingly new--most of this info is out there, being reported--though different headlines--at the same time and sometimes even earlier. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- I have a Mac and this doesn't seem to happen. dee On 18 Dec 2010, at 22:51, PT Ferrance wrote:
Re: CSCMO
Oh--I thought you meant it interfered with the CMO. Anything from the potato family, which includes tomatoes, can be bad for arthritis. It depends on what kind of arthritis you have. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- Coffee is terrible for most arthritis. Even decaf. I know one cup of decaf will make my joints hurt as if they were full of ground glass for 2 weeks.
Re: CSDr. Simeon's HCG Diet
Thanks so much Craig. You've been very clear with your explanation. It may be that this is a very good way to get a person started on a weight loss program. It's gratifying to see it come off so fast, and makes sticking with something easier to do when you see 'instant' results. And if you throw in the exercise later, and a good change in eating habits, it seems like a winning combination. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- Because this is a very low calorie diet, the exercise is begun after the VLCD phase ends. There isn't enough protein to support that, unless you have been an exercise person before you started. She uses a treadmill and I like the rebounder.
RE: CSArthritis vitamin B5
It's good to know there is another that is animal based. When I was looking only Jarrow said animal based, the rest of the web sites that I found said plant based. Don't know if it said that on the label, but it said it on the sites selling the CMO. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- The one I use, bestcmo is animal based. It is the original formula made by Harry Diehl and is highly recommended by Len Sands, an expert in the field. It is more expensive than most because it also contains a proprietary blend of enzymes to make it more bio-available. CMO can be hard to digest.
Re: CSArthritis vitamin B5
Since what I bought was 'home made' by a guy, it simply came in big chunks that my brother would scrape off (it kind of crumbles) a quarter teaspoon, twice a day. He ate it with his meals. It's not bad tasting, particularly, but very greasy, so best taken with some other fatty type food to make it go down. What this dose would translate to in capsules, I have no idea. Sorry Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- Would you share the dosage used?
RE: CSArthritis vitamin B5
I'd love to give it to you, but he's retired and not making it anymore. I feel bad because I've told a couple people but they can't get it. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- Indeed, Id care for this information myself!sad.gif
Re: CSArthritis vitamin B5
Um, I don't know. I don't know him, just bought from him once--just recently when I told someone about him and they contacted him, is when he said he'd quit making it. I would imagine it could be a lot of smelly work, as it comes from cows. So boiling? Baking? I have no idea. The stuff doesn't smell pleasant to begin with--can't imagine what the house would smell like when making it. Lol He doesn't have an email address--I just have a regular address. If someone is interested enough write me and I'll send his address to you and you could write and ask him if he'd care to share his process. I don't want to post it here, publicly. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- If he's retired and not making it anymore, maybe he would be willing to tell you how to make it yourself...
CSMaking CMO
Ok--I'm saying 'home made' here. But I have no idea if he has a lab or what his background is. Chemist? shrug All I know is that I was told about him a few years ago (the stuff keeps forever in the freezer) and that he was a Mom and Pop type biz. Not a big company. Just him making it. That's not to say making it is/was easy! It certainly doesn't sound like it from your posts Lisa. Samala, Renee
CSCMO
Well, I don't think I've ever heard anyone say they had to stop coffee before! I know coffee drinkers that took CMO and never said they quit. But--although this seems like a super healer for everyone, remember--it's just like everything else. Nothing works for everyone and anything will work for someone. Which just means that I've run across a very small number of people who've said they've used the correct CMO and didn't get any results, and another small group of people that said they used it and got a tiny bit of results that weren't much better than any other arthritis supplement they've taken. The ones it seems to work for, it works miracles. Most people only have to take it the one 'round', usually consisting of between 21 to 40 days. 30 days seems to be the most common amount. They say even if, like my brother, you get relief in 10 days (which is common) not to stop, but to continue taking it for 30 days. There have been a couple people that have done the first round, and it worked, but then in 6 months to 2 years later the pain came back. Another round of it seemed then to 'finish' the job. So all I can say is try it, just making sure you get bovine produced CMO. The added supplements don't seem to be necessary for some people. I know one lady that needs the enzymes with it to be able to digest it properly. She's one of the ones that it helps, but not much better than other arthritis supplements. For the ones that it truly works on, their bodies seem to take it without need for enzymes or other supplements. It does seem to work best if taken with other fatty foods, as it is a fat. It also works on dog's arthritis. I don't believe I've ever heard anyone mention cat arthritis though. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- Myristin CMO is animal based, too. They say: We're the family company of the discoverer of cetyl myristoleate (CMO), Harry W. Diehl. EHP Products has been marketing CMO since 1996, and is the only company in the world to offer a 40% CMO softgel.
Re: CSWas: Dr. Simeon's hCG Diet; Is: homeopathic HCG link
Wondering about how the diet turned out. Did the weight stay off once you went off the diet? Or are you still on it? Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- Just caught this threadHow timely, Tomorrow I will have just finished my 1st round of the HcG diet.It lasts for 23 days by taking .36 cc homeopathically for 1 bottle 23 days. I lost 20 lbs in the 23 days. It was amazing as I do not lose easily. I was not hungry nor hyper on it. The instructions say to go on a maintenance diet for the next 3 weeks then you wait some time before starting another round if you need to. Facebook has a good supportive group. It is very strict and restrictive but you are just not hungry. I did a lot of reading and psyching myself up to start it and am glad I did. I feel great. The only days I did not lose was days when I had cheated while out socially with friends, that is your downfall the social aspect of eating. --- On Sun, 8/1/10, sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote: From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com Subject: Re: CSWas: Dr. Simeon's hCG Diet; Is: homeopathic HCG link To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Sunday, August 1, 2010, 4:12 PM I assume it is like everything else--nothing works for everyone, but everything works for someone. sol Renee wrote: If someone tries this, let us know. I had read where the homeopathic method did not work. You never know who to believe! Samala, Renee /---Original Message---/ [Lisa] Nenah, do you have a link for the homeopathic recipe for the HCG? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSArthritis vitamin B5
I often wonder, when people say CMO doesn't work for them, if they have used the plant based version of it. That isn't what the body needs/uses to restore the ligaments, etc. It needs animal based CMO. From what I've seen just about all CMO except Jarrow, is now plant based. So if anyone is going to try CMO, do get Jarrow animal derived CMO. I got some of the last true beef CMO from a man that made it himself, and it worked in 10 days for my brothers years long hip pain (in both hips actually). He continued taking it for 30 days as I had suggested, but the pain stopped in 10 days and has not come back. It's been a year now. I have also heard good things about borax. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- I have tried CMO, which works for some people. It is not a cure for me, but it may have reduced the symptoms in general, but I can't really tell for sure.
Re: CSDr. Simeon's HCG Diet
Hey Craig. I'm not really thinking of it for myself--just curious as to whether it was like most 'diets' in that a person looses the weight while on the diet, but then once the diet is over, they pretty much go back to eating like they always did--because it's NOT a life style change, simply a diet for a short period of time--and then they gain all the weight back. I was on another list and people were raving about dropping so much weight and fat, but no one had been off the routine long enough to say if it stays off or not. Thanks, I'll take a look at your scan. It's encouraging to know that there is a fast way to jumpstart weight loss, but it would be best if exercise were incorporated along with a new, permanent way of eating rather than simply changing what you eat for a few weeks. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- My wife and I did one round with HCG, she lost 25lbs, I lost 29lbs in 60 days. We have been through the three weeks of stabilization and are now two weeks into the after phase. Our weight hasn't varied more than +/- 2lbs during this entire five week period and mostly has been an average variation of 1.7lbs for her (hers is higher because she caught some kind of nasty cold and dropped an additional 3lbs) and 0.8lbs for me.
Re: CSPine Tree Pollen
If you Google 'buy Russian pine tree pollen' you will find some Chinese sources. You'll get a few different hits if you make pinetree one word in the search phrase. But the company that is really 'pushing' pine tree pollen is from Russia, and I couldn't find it on a quick search. If no one here comes up with that site, I will dig around in my files later and find it. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- I have spent about 5 hours since yesterday trying to find a source for Pine Tree Pollen. No luckanyone ?
Re: CSblack salve, value, Values
Dee, from what I remember of alpha/omega labs video on making black salve, it's not so much that it's cost of ingredients--or even time to make--but that you can't just buy some of the ingredients (in their BS anyway) in small amounts. You have to buy one or two in large amounts. Because it keeps they made big batches. It pretty much sounded like you'd also have to do that at home--so that you'd have a LOT of BS around, and would therefore need to sell it because you'd never in your life use it up. In fact, that's why the containers are so small--you need so little. With their BS (don't know about Ted's) you only put it on twice, to any cancer spot. Therefore, how much would a person ever need? If you are trying to justify the pricing, look at it as a one time purchase. Buy it once and you never have to buy it again. Of course you can look around and find cheaper companies--but you have to buy from someone you trust, because anyone can slap together a salve and call it black salve cancer killer. Doesn't mean it IS that. In fact, there was a company that started selling BS as though they were alpha/omega lab salve, and their salve didn't work. Who knows how many people may have died of skin and other cancers because they purchased this 'fake' BS? Buy from someone you trust, or make your own. Making your own might be cheaper--but once you have to buy x number of ingredients to make yours, it may wind up being cheaper in the end to just buy from a trusted supplier. Only you can decide after a search on the cost of the ingredients for making your own. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- So you don't think that $69 is expensive for a tub of around an ounce or so? I was just asking the very thing that you have mentioned i.e. is there any really special process it has to go through to justify such an expense--that s all.
Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2010 #900
That's amazing Melly. I wonder if the core of the banana leaves you find in the store would work? They are certainly cheap enough. You did mean the leaves and not the 'stem' of the plant, right? Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- From: Melly Bag Date: 12/4/2010 10:35:25 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2010 #900 Renee, They beat up the core and wrap the remaining finger. I think they change it every other day (not sure). This is done in rural areas where there is no medical help. But the thing is, it works -- the fingertip would regenerate and grow a bit of nails too. Melly --- On Fri, 12/3/10, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com wrote: From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com Subject: silver-digest Digest V2010 #900 To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com Date: Friday, December 3, 2010, 4:14 PM
Re: CSBlack Salve skin cancer cure
Yes, I remember that now. Someone on another list in Australia could get to altcancer site. We here couldn't figure out why we couldn't. Finally someone found the herbhealers one. I had typed in the alphaomega labs and got that basically empty page and forgot there was this other site for the US. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- altcancer.com works from outside the USA. http://herbhealers.com/ works in the USA, or so I am told.
RE: CSBlack Salve skin cancer cure
I think that site is gone now. When you put in alphaomega labs all you get is a crummy, empty page, with a search box. They are hardly selling anything here in the US now. I had bought dragon's blood from them, and was going to send someone else there to buy some--but thought I'd better check. Yep--gone. It's a shame what the FDA has done to them. If you didn't get that info while you had the chance, it's too late now. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- The site in ecuador that sells cansema also gives the recipe, or used to. they also sell lugol's iodine, at the same time give the recipe for making your own from elemental iodine and potassium iodide which are both cheap on ebay.
RE: CSBlack Salve skin cancer cure
Yes!! Great find. That's them. Shame now that most of the info is gone from the site. Use to be there was all the long explanations of each product, how to make their black salve, all about the discovery and use of H3o, etc, as was mentioned here in another post. But at least now I know we can still buy most of their products. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- Is this the site? http://www.herbhealers.com/store/
Re: CSRe: Banana for healing
Hey Melly--how do they use the core for fingertips? Just wrap the core over the sliced off part? Change daily? Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- The banana leaf's core is used for cut off fingertips to regenerate even without reconnecting the tips. The trunk is used as a flower frog and helps keep the flowers last longer. Many many uses indeed. Melly --- On Fri, 12/3/10, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com wrote: From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com Subject: silver-digest Digest V2010 #899 To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com Date: Friday, December 3, 2010, 9:01 AM
Re: CSBlack Salve skin cancer cure--round the spine.
Rowena, your doctor is wrong. Surgery is not 100% successful. My father, at 80, was diabetic and had leukemia, which had been kept under control for 6 years with Gleevec. Then there came a small spot on his neck that would not heal. Went to the dermatologist who said--cancer. But it was small enough that he cut it out in his office, under local. Sent the cancer away to the lab, put about 4 stitches in Dad's neck and home we went. There was much pain at the site for Dad, and the doctor had taken such a large chunk out-to be sure to 'get everything'--that Dad couldn't bend his neck. Finally in 10 days Dad went to get the stitches out, and everything looked fine. But the pain stayed and within just 3 or 4 weeks, another spot, in the same spot, returned. Went back and the doctor kept saying--but, but, I got it all. The margins were perfectly clear. He even went and got out the lab report, and showed it to me. I never doubted his word, he was a good man and doctor. Still--nothing is 100%. There is no guarantee of anything, lab tests or no. Yep, the cancer spread and Dad passed away, in much pain, only 2 months later. I often wondered if I should have tried BS, but then, Dad wanted his doctor to take care of it. Samala, Renee
RE: CSCODEX The first shot has been fired
I cannot talk about making our own vitamins, but stumbled on this site yesterday. Sounds like an incredible way to get lots of powerful supplements' at home. He sells the powder, but if you watch the video on the main page you will see that he mixed them together and took 2 teaspoons in a glass of water every day. There is also a free book to download, without having to buy the hard copy (for $15) on Amazon. You have to sign up for the newsletter to get it, but I think his newsletter will have some good info--though I haven't received my first copy yet. http://www.medicinal-herbs-and-spices.com/index.html Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- One thing we could do that would be very powerful is to make our own vitamins. It's time for those who know how to make these things to share their knowledge and their recipes.
CSA reason to drink beer
My DH and I were just sitting here talking about thanksgiving and I can't even remember how we got to talking about alcohol--but he said that he'd just seen where some company (he couldn't remember which) said that they were making a grooved beer bottle and he didn't understand why. I told him about the little white dingy thing inside that expensive Guinness beer. When I bought it for the heart worm prevention, the first bottle I picked up rattled. I thought there must have been broken glass inside, so set it aside and picked up another bottle, which also rattled! I opened it and poured it out and this little white thing was in the bottle. So I googled and came up with the fact that they put those white things in there to 'aerate and mix' the beer for 'better flavor' when you drink it. I told him I would imagine that whatever company it was would just put straight grooves inside the bottle, and I wished it would be spiral groves as that would give a vortex. Those bottles would be great to have. Suddenly I thought I'd Google for grooves in glass beer bottles and this came up! I'm looking for some to buy when I go downtown! http://www.brandweek com/bw/content_display/news-and-features/packaged-goods/e3ie9fc421daf51cf8277 1aacc90afc319 Samala, Renee
RE: CSMercury Filling vit C
Hey PT. I've heard of Bowen. How does a massage get rid of mercury? Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- One good way to get rid of mercury is by Bowen treatments if you can find a practitioner near you. Just get a basic Bowen treatment and you will eliminate mercury. I've seen it tested and it works. PT --- On Wed, 11/3/10, M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote: From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSMercury Filling vit C To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wednesday, November 3, 2010, 5:40 PM A couple of cautions: Don't take oral vitamin C before the procedure, as it will make the novocaine less effective. That's why IV C during or immediately after the procedure is preferred. I don't remember how long before the procedure you'd want to stop taking any oral C, but if I had to guess on the basis of my vague recollection, it would probably be at least 12 hours. Maybe somebody else knows this? Lacking the IV option, hopefully liposomal encapsulated C will serve. The other caution is this: If this is your last or only mercury containing filling, once it is removed be prepared for your body to begin to mobilize the mercury you've absorbed over the years in an attempt to get rid of it now that you're not under the daily assault of ongoing exposure. Once the new exposure stops, your body will change gears and start trying to get rid of it. The problem is the eliminative pathways are so inefficient that blood levels of mercury will climb and you'll be at risk of toxic effects as bad or worse than if you left the filling in place. To combat this, you'll want to actively pursue therapies to help your body eliminate mercury faster, such as daily FIR sauna or other means of sweating copiously, oral chelation therapies, etc... Peace, Mike D. What about regular vit C in large doses or powdered acerola? Jess -Original Message- From: Jon [mailto:p888p...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 3:20 PM To: silver list Cc: Pat Subject: CSMercury Filling Hi Pat, Some doctors will give vitamin C by IV after mercury-filling removal to chelate the mercury that is freed by the dental procedure. You could make your own liposomal Vitamin C for this purpose, instead of IV. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSMercury Filling vit C
Ah, thanks PT. Years ago I talked to a lady (the only certified Bowen practitioner around here then) about my Mom's rotator cuff problem. She said that she use to be a sports massage therapist, but gave it up in favor of Bowen. Also, that Bowen took care of all her clients with the rotator cuff problem, so that they didn't need surgery. But Mom didn't trust anyone but her doctors, so she had the surgery. She'd had many surgeries in the past, but said that the cuff one was the worse she'd ever experienced! So I guess I was just assuming Bowen was another form of massage. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- Hi Renee, Bowen is not massage. It is an adjustment of the autonomic nervous system by subtle movements across muscles at specific points. PT --- On Thu, 11/4/10, Renee gaiac...@gmail.com wrote: From: Renee gaiac...@gmail.com Subject: RE: CSMercury Filling vit C To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Thursday, November 4, 2010, 5:43 PM Hey PT. I've heard of Bowen. How does a massage get rid of mercury? Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- One good way to get rid of mercury is by Bowen treatments if you can find a practitioner near you. Just get a basic Bowen treatment and you will eliminate mercury. I've seen it tested and it works. PT --- On Wed, 11/3/10, M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote: From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSMercury Filling vit C To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wednesday, November 3, 2010, 5:40 PM A couple of cautions: Don't take oral vitamin C before the procedure, as it will make the novocaine less effective. That's why IV C during or immediately after the procedure is preferred. I don't remember how long before the procedure you'd want to stop taking any oral C, but if I had to guess on the basis of my vague recollection, it would probably be at least 12 hours. Maybe somebody else knows this? Lacking the IV option, hopefully liposomal encapsulated C will serve. The other caution is this: If this is your last or only mercury containing filling, once it is removed be prepared for your body to begin to mobilize the mercury you've absorbed over the years in an attempt to get rid of it now that you're not under the daily assault of ongoing exposure. Once the new exposure stops, your body will change gears and start trying to get rid of it. The problem is the eliminative pathways are so inefficient that blood levels of mercury will climb and you'll be at risk of toxic effects as bad or worse than if you left the filling in place. To combat this, you'll want to actively pursue therapies to help your body eliminate mercury faster, such as daily FIR sauna or other means of sweating copiously, oral chelation therapies, etc... Peace, Mike D. What about regular vit C in large doses or powdered acerola? Jess -Original Message- From: Jon [mailto:p888p...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 3:20 PM To: silver list Cc: Pat Subject: CSMercury Filling Hi Pat, Some doctors will give vitamin C by IV after mercury-filling removal to chelate the mercury that is freed by the dental procedure. You could make your own liposomal Vitamin C for this purpose, instead of IV. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSThe difference between Egoscue editions?
Yes, this is the correct link. It's the book that has exactly what you need He then came out with Pain Free for Women, Pain Free at the Computer, etc, which are all good for specific things. But the general book on everything that I've talked about is the original, nothing but Pain Free, A Revolutionary Method for Stopping Chronic Pain. Better known as Pain Free. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- I think this is the most popular one. This is the one I have. http://tinyurl.com/29u987ohappy.gif
Re: CSThe difference between Egoscue editions?
Just now reading this message--all the Pain Free editions are the same. One is a small size paperback, one is an over size paperback, and then the hard cover. But everything inside is the same in all editions, afaik. I have both the large and small paperbacks. So, get the cheapest of whichever size you prefer. Year doesn't matter. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- Choices are: Which title is the one that has been discussed on this list?
Re: CSThe difference between Egoscue editions?
Now, I do feel it necessary to give this one warning. I've never heard anyone else ever say this--but since I 'know' the lady and know she is telling the truth, I want to make sure people know this. I only recently found this out, so have to remember to start telling people. She was very crippled. Just about having to crawl on the floor as she couldn't stand. She got the Egoscue book and tried it without anyone there to 'spot' her. She got down and was in so much pain she had to get up--and couldn't! She was in one of the positions and just froze, and had to lay there in terrible pain for 20 minutes. Knowing no one was coming to her rescue she forced herself to turn over and crawl on hands and knees to a chair that she could hold to get up. So her advice was to never do these unless you have someone there to help you 'just in case'. Personally I think for 99.9% of the people doing these stretches alone would be fine. BUT--now you are aware of this problem and it's probably just a good idea to not try them until you have someone around just to be safe. Samala, Renee
Re: CSSpeaking of gels
It doesn't touch the gums. This works from passing through the cheeks. The device is used only on the outside of the skin. So--that's why I don't know if I actually need something that will conduct electricity, or if just keeping the skin moist will conduct it. When I use my Godzilla, all you need to do is keep the electrodes wet. This wets the skin and allows passage of the electricity--but then I am also using 2 separate electrodes, passing electricity back and forth between them This is an ultrasonic device, simply put against the skin--no 'separate' electrodes. So I don't know if it still ONLY needs something to keep the skin moist, or if there is actually something in a conductive gel that intensifies' the current. Hence my question about the gel. I'm thinking it may be like what I've heard people that use TENS units use--a conductive gel Perhaps I'll go ask on the electric list--someone there may know as there may be more people there using such devices as I'm talking about. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- What is the purpose of the gel? I persume it is to provide a medium to conduct the ultrasonic waves into the gums, much like the gel they use for baby ultrasounds. I doubt there is any reason to have it actually conduct electricity. My recomendation would be to try your own gel.
Re: CSSpeaking of gels
Ah! I never thought of that. Thanks Dan. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- They use a gel to bridge the gap from the ultrasonic device to the skin. To conduct the ultrasonic vibrations. There is no electrical conduction...
CSSpeaking of gels
My question is about the electrode conducting gels. I bought an ultrasonic handdeld device for working on my teeth (via outside the cheek) and haven't used it yet because it says to use a conducting gel with it. So I'm wondering if there's anything special about a conducting gel? I have Ode's gel making kit that I have not used yet. Will any gel work or do I need to buy gel made specifically for conduction? Will plain water do, or does it need the gel to keep the skin 'wet' because with water only it could dry out during a 10 to 20 minute use? Samala, Renee
Re: CSSpeaking of gels
I don't know if there's anything special about electrode conducting gel. That's why I asked. The device said use an electrode conducting gel. I was thinking perhaps it had something 'special' in it--salt or something, to make it more conducive to electricity. If it's just a plain gel to keep the skin moist while using the electrode device for 20 minutes, then I could make my own with Ode's gel kit, that I have here at home. So I was wondering if there was some reason to buy a special conductive gel, or can I stick with what I can make here. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- What is a electrode conducting gel please ?
RE: CSDMSO
Hey Bob. I see you've been taking the DMSO orally again. Is there any problem with the smell factor now? Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- Something else- try dissolving the B12 (and other B's) in a little DMSO, then add that to grape juice, then take that on an empty stomach. Works MUCH better than transdermal. Same works for Vitamin C too. I've done it by mixing L-Ascorbic Acid with sodium bicarbonate to make sodium ascorbate and mixing it with potassium bicarbonate to make potassium ascorbate, then taking either of those with DMSO and grape juice. It all works.
RE: CShelp re cholesterol
Be careful of taking the serrapeptase and don't try to push it. Follow the dosage no the bottle. Taking too much too fast can 'chunk' off bits of plaque which can travel and cause strokes. Happened to 2 people on 2 different lists I'm on, trying to get rid of their plaque too fast. It's safe is used as directed. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- I'm taking serrapeptase...but at the dosage on the bottle (I've read that others increase it substanstially). Marshall, can you give an approximate dosage amount in which this would happen in about a month?
Re: CSVORTEX BLENDER EXPERIMENT TO STRUCTURE WATER
According to Peter Kulish, magnet expert at www.biomagscience.net magnetized water will stay magnetized for 12 hours, as it slowly reverts back to the natural magnetic spin of the earth. I have no idea if the vortex changes this. We (Peter and I) talked of this 12 hour period when discussing water run past a magnet on a faucet or my Berkey filter. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- Oh, I remember what I wanted to ask the group. After structuring the water, or wine, with the blender or vortex, how long does it stay magnetized? Can I keep it for days, or weeks, or should it be used the same day?
