Re: CS>generator

[Lynn Greene]

Thank you. Right now, the soldering is needed on one side. And it quit lighting 
up at some point, too. I had tried a different power cord.
I’ll send it today. 
Lynn

> On Aug 28, 2020, at 5:19 AM, Ode Coyote  wrote:
> 
> Not working as in, won't light up at all?
> 
> It might be a broken wire in the power supply plug.
> If you have any other power supplies that will plug in, 12 volts and up...try 
> one.
> 
> Yes, it can be repaired.
> Send a $20 bill [cash] with the gen and power supply and your address to :
> Coyote Zenterprizes
> PO Box 13
>  Moncure NC 27559
> 
> If it's a simple fix, some of that $20 will be returned in cash as well.
> 
> On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 5:48 PM Lynn Greene  > wrote:
> Hello. I’ve had my silver puppy since 2015. It worked great but is not 
> working now. Soldering the wires did not fix the problem. I’m in Canada, and 
> I know there are mail problems in the States. Also, are you out of North 
> Carolina now? I thought you were previously in the Pacific Northwest.
> 
> Since I've had the machine, I had to wiggle the cord at the machine end to 
> get it to work, but now it needs repair. Can it be repaired?
> What should I do next?
> Thanks, Lynn Greene
> 
> 250-493-6955
> 
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Re: CS>generator

[Ode Coyote]

Not working as in, won't light up at all?

It might be a broken wire in the power supply plug.
If you have any other power supplies that will plug in, 12 volts and
up...try one.

Yes, it can be repaired.
Send a $20 bill [cash] with the gen and power supply and your address to :
Coyote Zenterprizes
PO Box 13
 Moncure NC 27559

If it's a simple fix, some of that $20 will be returned in cash as well.

On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 5:48 PM Lynn Greene  wrote:

> Hello. I’ve had my silver puppy since 2015. It worked great but is not
> working now. Soldering the wires did not fix the problem. I’m in Canada,
> and I know there are mail problems in the States. Also, are you out of
> North Carolina now? I thought you were previously in the Pacific Northwest.
>
> Since I've had the machine, I had to wiggle the cord at the machine end to
> get it to work, but now it needs repair. Can it be repaired?
> What should I do next?
> Thanks, Lynn Greene
>
> 250-493-6955
>
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CS>generator

[Lynn Greene]

Hello. I’ve had my silver puppy since 2015. It worked great but is not working 
now. Soldering the wires did not fix the problem. I’m in Canada, and I know 
there are mail problems in the States. Also, are you out of North Carolina now? 
I thought you were previously in the Pacific Northwest.

Since I've had the machine, I had to wiggle the cord at the machine end to get 
it to work, but now it needs repair. Can it be repaired?
What should I do next?
Thanks, Lynn Greene

250-493-6955


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CS>silver-9-cs-generator

[Ron]

This might send twice - sorry.

Here Tiz: http://silverpuppy.com/product/products/silver-9-cs-generator
Ron

On 3/20/2018 6:30 AM, PT Ferrance wrote:
Are these replacements for your Silver Puppy, Ode?
PT




*From:* Ode Coyote <silverpuppy1...@gmail.com>
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, March 20, 2018 8:23 AM
*Subject:* Re: CS>CS Page

The "Silver 7" did 15 -20...but at 20 PPM and a cold day it would 
sometimes go into a super saturated solution conductivity feedback loop 
and fail to shut down...the new "Silver 9" defaults to 10 PPM where 
meters still make sense, unless you tell it to make it stronger [program it]
You can tell the "Silver 9" to go to 100 + if you want. [and turn itself 
off when it gets there]


ode


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Re: CS>carrying a CS generator on a plane

[Neville]

If you don't mind me saying something here?


I made my unit using banana plugs so I can remove the electrodes from the unit 
so it's easier to transport around, fits easier to put into a bag or something 
while transporting it with me.


N.



From: Nenah Sylver <nenah12egro...@cox.net>
Sent: Saturday, 3 March 2018 5:51 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>carrying a CS generator on a plane


Reid wrote:  A friend is traveling to Africa with a CS generator or two and I 
wonder which is the preferable way of carrying this... carry on or checked 
baggage.  My thought has been that when some official (officious official) has 
questions, these could be answered, while with checked baggage removing this 
would be more arbitrary.  Any opinions?  Thanks!

---

Reid,

I would carry it on with me, because anyone who doesn’t know what it is could 
remove it from the luggage. (There have been reports of thefts on airlines, 
anyway, so anything valuable I would keep with me.) I would simply explain that 
it’s a portable, battery-operated generator to mineralize the water. This is 
the truth.



Nenah



Nenah Sylver, PhD

author, The Rife Handbook

of Frequency Therapy and Holistic Health

now in all formats: hardcover, ebook for Mac, Kindle, iPad, Android

DVDs of 2016 Rife and Electromedicine Conference Available NOW

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Re: CS>carrying a CS generator on a plane

[Ron]

Carry on is likely the better way. What's it gonna look like on the 
checked baggage x-ray?

Maybe you could have a printout describing the thing plus a picture.
Ron

On 3/2/2018 10:51 AM, Nenah Sylver wrote:


Reid wrote:  A friend is traveling to Africa with a CS generator or 
two and I wonder which is the preferable way of carrying this... carry 
on or checked baggage.  My thought has been that when some official 
(officious official) has questions, these could be answered, while 
with checked baggage removing this would be more arbitrary.  Any 
opinions? Thanks!


---

Reid,

I would carry it on with me, because anyone who doesn’t know what it 
is could remove it from the luggage. (There have been reports of 
thefts on airlines, anyway, so anything valuable I would keep with 
me.) I would simply explain that it’s a portable, battery-operated 
generator to mineralize the water. This is the truth.


Nenah

Nenah Sylver, PhD

author,/*/The Rife Handbook/*/*//*

/*/of Frequency Therapy and Holistic Health/*/*//*

now in all formats: hardcover, ebook for Mac, Kindle, iPad, Android

*DVDs of 2016 Rife and Electromedicine Conference Available NOW***

**w*ww.nenahsylver.com* <http://www.nenahsylver.com/>





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CS>carrying a CS generator on a plane

[Nenah Sylver]

Reid wrote:  A friend is traveling to Africa with a CS generator or two and
I wonder which is the preferable way of carrying this... carry on or checked
baggage.  My thought has been that when some official (officious official)
has questions, these could be answered, while with checked baggage removing
this would be more arbitrary.  Any opinions?  Thanks!

---

Reid,

I would carry it on with me, because anyone who doesn't know what it is
could remove it from the luggage. (There have been reports of thefts on
airlines, anyway, so anything valuable I would keep with me.) I would simply
explain that it's a portable, battery-operated generator to mineralize the
water. This is the truth.

 

Nenah

 

Nenah Sylver, PhD

author, The Rife Handbook

of Frequency Therapy and Holistic Health

now in all formats: hardcover, ebook for Mac, Kindle, iPad, Android 

DVDs of 2016 Rife and Electromedicine Conference Available NOW

w <http://www.nenahsylver.com/> ww.nenahsylver.com  

Re: CS>What's the best CS Generator?

[bob Larson]

exc!  thank you Ode!


> On Mar 28, 2017, at 3:30 AM, Ode Coyote  wrote:
> 
> Voltage is nearly irrelevant. 
>  A higher voltage will allow more current to flow in a less conductive 
> solution which gets you to an ideal amperage over the surface area of the 
> electrodes faster.
> If the current isn't limited to that ideal, excessive voltage allows 
> "runaway" to happen.
> If the voltage is high enough and the power supply big enough to not just 
> melt or catch fire, the water will boil away.
> 
> As the electrodes 'wear' they also get pitted and rough.  That rough surface 
> increases the surface area as the electrodes get thinner.
>  Current discharge concentrates in points, corners and edges. ["lightening 
> rods" are pointy for a reason]
> Rectangular electrodes will erode into spears, straight wire electrodes, into 
> needles...both getting shorter and shorter...reducing surface area.
> 
> Too much current on too little electrode will super saturate the water at and 
> near the electrodes surface forcing the ions to find something to make 
> molecules with ["particles"]
>  For the most part, that will be oxygen produced by the electrolysis of the 
> water making silver oxide *in the water* ["Golden Mist"] turning the batch 
> yellow to brown..even black.
>  Using a lower current , that oxide stays on the electrode where reversing 
> the polarity can turn it back into silver ions, or it can be wiped off.
> 
> Bending the tips away from each other to increase distance at these discharge 
> points helps to prevent that.
> 
> Flat electrodes have significant back side which doesn't contribute much to 
> available surface area.
> Round wire electrodes have little backside effect and if the ends aren't in 
> the water,  tip discharge is eliminated.
> 
> Ode
> 
>> On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 2:48 PM, bob Larson  wrote:
>> surface area keeps shrinking.
>> as long as there's enough it's good?  
>> 
>>> On Mar 27, 2017, at 8:39 AM, Jerry Durand  wrote:
>>> 
>>> You get MUCH better results using constant current.  You need to calculate 
>>> the current needed based on the surface area of your silver electrodes.
>>> 
 On 03/27/2017 07:08 AM, okierspike wrote:
 I went on line to a salvage company and bought  2 power units for 10 
 dollars apiece.They are ac to dc 30 volt and 750 mili amps.  As far as 
 stirring i give my rods a shake and switch  polarity at the halfway point. 
  From my research 30 volt is the target.   Any feed back is appreciated.  
 
 Craig
 
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Re: CS>What's the best CS Generator?

[Ode Coyote]

Voltage is nearly irrelevant.
 A higher voltage will allow more current to flow in a less conductive
solution which gets you to an ideal amperage over the surface area of the
electrodes faster.
If the current isn't limited to that ideal, excessive voltage allows
"runaway" to happen.
If the voltage is high enough and the power supply big enough to not just
melt or catch fire, the water will boil away.

As the electrodes 'wear' they also get pitted and rough.  That rough
surface increases the surface area as the electrodes get thinner.
 Current discharge concentrates in points, corners and edges. ["lightening
rods" are pointy for a reason]
Rectangular electrodes will erode into spears, straight wire electrodes,
into needles...both getting shorter and shorter...reducing surface area.

Too much current on too little electrode will super saturate the water at
and near the electrodes surface forcing the ions to find something to make
molecules with ["particles"]
 For the most part, that will be oxygen produced by the electrolysis of the
water making silver oxide *in the water* ["Golden Mist"] turning the batch
yellow to brown..even black.
 Using a lower current , that oxide stays on the electrode where reversing
the polarity can turn it back into silver ions, or it can be wiped off.

Bending the tips away from each other to increase distance at these
discharge points helps to prevent that.

Flat electrodes have significant back side which doesn't contribute much to
available surface area.
Round wire electrodes have little backside effect and if the ends aren't in
the water,  tip discharge is eliminated.

Ode

On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 2:48 PM, bob Larson  wrote:

> surface area keeps shrinking.
> as long as there's enough it's good?
>
> On Mar 27, 2017, at 8:39 AM, Jerry Durand 
> wrote:
>
> You get MUCH better results using constant current.  You need to calculate
> the current needed based on the surface area of your silver electrodes.
>
> On 03/27/2017 07:08 AM, okierspike wrote:
>
> I went on line to a salvage company and bought  2 power units for 10
> dollars apiece.They are ac to dc 30 volt and 750 mili amps.  As far as
> stirring i give my rods a shake and switch  polarity at the halfway point.
> From my research 30 volt is the target.   Any feed back is appreciated.
>
> Craig
>
>
> --
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> tel: +1 408 356-3886 <(408)%20356-3886>
> @DurandInterstel
>
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Re: CS>What's the best CS Generator?

[Jerry Durand]

Shouldn't shrink that fast, how much CS are you making?  I've been using
the same pieces of silver for a couple of years and I sell CS to other
people.

But, yes, you need to take into account any change in surface area.

On 03/27/2017 11:48 AM, bob Larson wrote:
> surface area keeps shrinking.
> as long as there's enough it's good?  
>

-- 
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www.interstellar.com
tel: +1 408 356-3886
@DurandInterstel

Re: CS>What's the best CS Generator?

[bob Larson]

surface area keeps shrinking.
as long as there's enough it's good?  

> On Mar 27, 2017, at 8:39 AM, Jerry Durand  wrote:
> 
> You get MUCH better results using constant current.  You need to calculate 
> the current needed based on the surface area of your silver electrodes.
> 
>> On 03/27/2017 07:08 AM, okierspike wrote:
>> I went on line to a salvage company and bought  2 power units for 10 dollars 
>> apiece.They are ac to dc 30 volt and 750 mili amps.  As far as stirring 
>> i give my rods a shake and switch  polarity at the halfway point.  From my 
>> research 30 volt is the target.   Any feed back is appreciated.  
>> 
>> Craig
>> 
> 
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> www.interstellar.com
> tel: +1 408 356-3886
> @DurandInterstel
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Re: CS>What's the best CS Generator?

[Jerry Durand]

You get MUCH better results using constant current.  You need to
calculate the current needed based on the surface area of your silver
electrodes.

On 03/27/2017 07:08 AM, okierspike wrote:
> I went on line to a salvage company and bought  2 power units for 10
> dollars apiece.They are ac to dc 30 volt and 750 mili amps.  As
> far as stirring i give my rods a shake and switch  polarity at the
> halfway point.  From my research 30 volt is the target.   Any feed
> back is appreciated.  
>
> Craig
>

-- 
Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc.
www.interstellar.com
tel: +1 408 356-3886
@DurandInterstel

Re: CS>What's the best CS Generator?

[bob Larson]

that works "quick & dirty" 
30v is optimal.  i use 24v which is fine too but i've upgraded to a lab bench 
pwr supply w/ up to 60v (for CGold) and precise current regulation.  i torch 
the silver every 15-20min to recover that silver for use.
at 10ma current, starting w/ electrolyte added to make the water conductive, it 
takes 22.5min to make a liter of (really) 15ppm ionic CS clear & clean.  
develops some color soon but not much if it's kept in the dark.  same w/ the 
wall-wart 24v cuz it plugs into a 10ma current regulator 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 27, 2017, at 7:08 AM, okierspike <okiersp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I went on line to a salvage company and bought  2 power units for 10 dollars 
> apiece.They are ac to dc 30 volt and 750 mili amps.  As far as stirring i 
> give my rods a shake and switch  polarity at the halfway point.  From my 
> research 30 volt is the target.   Any feed back is appreciated.  
> 
> Craig
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
> 
>  Original message 
> From: Y Arenias <yaren...@gmail.com>
> Date: 3/25/17 4:08 PM (GMT-06:00)
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: RE: CS>What's the best CS Generator?
> 
> Thank you all for your replies!
> 
> Re oxygen making silver oxide, so apparently it definitely doesn’t happen 
> with a bubbler. A chemist friend explained like this (please correct me if 
> he’s wrong):
> 
>  
> 
> If it was a simple matter of bubbling oxygen into a silver ion solution to 
> form silver oxide, chemists wouldn't have to go through the chemical 
> reactions and add (1) silver nitrate AgNO3(aq) to (2) sodium hydroxide 
> NaOH(aq) (caustic soda also known as lye, the chemical liquid drain openers 
> comprise of), as follows: NaOH(aq)+AgNO3(aq)→AgOH(s)+NaNO3(aq)
> 
> And then there’s a subsequent double reaction: 2AgOH→Ag2O(s)+H2O(l) = silver 
> oxide
> 
> (The small (s) is for solid and the (l) is for liquid as silver oxide or for 
> that matter silver hydroxide are of very low solubility.)
> 
> I agree that it does seem overpriced, but if it produces smaller ions, then 
> it’s going to be more effective, so maybe it’s worth the investment. So since 
> a bubbler is a better agitator (keeping the ions/particles from 
> agglomerating) than a magnetic stirrer, then it seems worth. If anyone has 
> any more thoughts on what’s the best CS generator please let me know. Of 
> course the criteria are the smallest ions/particles possible (i.e., without 
> agglomeration), and a strong, easy to use/maintain machine.
> 
>  
> 
> From: bob Larson [mailto:bobli...@att.net] 
> Sent: Friday, March 24, 2017 9:19 PM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>What's the best CS Generator?
> 
>  
> 
> mag stir plate is far better than bubbles.  the silveredge is way inflated 
> overpriced & mr. barwick has in past presented a lot of skewed info among 
> good info.  
> adding Oxygen O2 to silver ions in water only makes silver oxide doesn't it ? 
>  so?
> 
> 
> On Mar 22, 2017, at 4:20 PM, Jerry Durand <jdur...@interstellar.com> wrote:
> 
> I go with the SilverPuppy. 
> 
> On 03/22/2017 04:17 PM, Y Arenias wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone, I’ve spent a lot of time researching CS generators, and it seems 
> the internet is full of conflicting information.
> 
> I’ve read studies that say adding oxygen to silver ions makes them way more 
> powerful in destroying pathogens, which points to buying a Microparticle CS 
> generator from SilverEdge. Also, an oxygen bubbler seems to be the most 
> powerful agitator which keeps the ions at their smallest. So while I know 
> some people say a bubbler might introduce dust, seems unlikely since the 
> bubbles are at high pressure and go in and out at a fast rate. Ozone machines 
> are used to bubble ozone into water for drinking (large amounts) and I’ve 
> never heard anyone saying there’s a problem with dust. What do people say?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Y
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc.
> www.interstellar.com
> tel: +1 408 356-3886
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>  

RE: CS>What's the best CS Generator?

[okierspike]

I went on line to a salvage company and bought  2 power units for 10 dollars 
apiece.    They are ac to dc 30 volt and 750 mili amps.  As far as stirring i 
give my rods a shake and switch  polarity at the halfway point.  From my 
research 30 volt is the target.   Any feed back is appreciated.  
Craig


Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
 Original message From: Y Arenias <yaren...@gmail.com> Date: 
3/25/17  4:08 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CS>What's 
the best CS Generator? 
Thank you all for your replies!Re oxygen making silver oxide, so apparently it 
definitely doesn’t happen with a bubbler. A chemist friend explained like this 
(please correct me if he’s wrong): If it was a simple matter of bubbling oxygen 
into a silver ion solution to form silver oxide, chemists wouldn't have to go 
through the chemical reactions and add (1) silver nitrate AgNO3(aq) to (2) 
sodium hydroxide NaOH(aq) (caustic soda also known as lye, the chemical liquid 
drain openers comprise of), as follows: NaOH(aq)+AgNO3(aq)→AgOH(s)+NaNO3(aq) 
And then there’s a subsequent double reaction: 2AgOH→Ag2O(s)+H2O(l) = silver 
oxide(The small (s) is for solid and the (l) is for liquid as silver oxide or 
for that matter silver hydroxide are of very low solubility.) I agree that it 
does seem overpriced, but if it produces smaller ions, then it’s going to be 
more effective, so maybe it’s worth the investment. So since a bubbler is a 
better agitator (keeping the ions/particles from agglomerating) than a magnetic 
stirrer, then it seems worth. If anyone has any more thoughts on what’s the 
best CS generator please let me know. Of course the criteria are the smallest 
ions/particles possible (i.e., without agglomeration), and a strong, easy to 
use/maintain machine. From: bob Larson [mailto:bobli...@att.net] 
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2017 9:19 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>What's the best CS Generator? mag stir plate is far better than 
bubbles.  the silveredge is way inflated overpriced & mr. barwick has in past 
presented a lot of skewed info among good info.  
adding Oxygen O2 to silver ions in water only makes silver oxide doesn't it ?  
so?
On Mar 22, 2017, at 4:20 PM, Jerry Durand <jdur...@interstellar.com> wrote:I go 
with the SilverPuppy.  On 03/22/2017 04:17 PM, Y Arenias wrote:Hi everyone, 
I’ve spent a lot of time researching CS generators, and it seems the internet 
is full of conflicting information.I’ve read studies that say adding oxygen to 
silver ions makes them way more powerful in destroying pathogens, which points 
to buying a Microparticle CS generator from SilverEdge. Also, an oxygen bubbler 
seems to be the most powerful agitator which keeps the ions at their smallest. 
So while I know some people say a bubbler might introduce dust, seems unlikely 
since the bubbles are at high pressure and go in and out at a fast rate. Ozone 
machines are used to bubble ozone into water for drinking (large amounts) and 
I’ve never heard anyone saying there’s a problem with dust. What do people 
say?Thanks! Y 

-- Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc.www.interstellar.comtel: +1 408 
356-3886@DurandInterstel 

Re: CS>What's the best CS Generator?

[Ode Coyote]

The black stuff is at worst, harmless and might even be helpful.  iDunno
You don't need to keep pure silver in the dark, only the photo reactive
silver compounds like silver chloride and silver carbonate made by using
salt or baking soda as a buffer in the watera very common practice in
the old days [10-20 years ago] , but less common now.

Ode

On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 6:13 PM, Y Arenias <yaren...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thank you all again for some very helpful info.
>
> I’m not sure how to send a message and keep the thread going, so sorry I
> keep starting a new thread
>
> Bob, What does it mean to stabilize the ionic silver and encapsulate it?
> (I thought that once you make the stuff, if you keep it in a dark place,
> then it should keep fine – I heard that the ).
>
> Sounds like it’s really important to keep those electrodes clean to make
> sure one doesn’t ingest too much black stuff!
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* bob Larson [mailto:bobli...@att.net]
> *Subject:* Re: CS>What's the best CS Generator?
>
>
>
> right, bubbled O2 won't combine w/the Ag+ ions.
>
> but you don't need any silver nitrate involved process either.
>
> if you want silver oxide make some cs w/ a battery or other d.c. power
> source.  the black stuff that grows on the anode (+) is it.
>
> as others have said, ion size is fixed.  the silveredge makes cs  pretty
> much just like everybody elses, the hype is just that.  the particles that
> form might be a small optimal size but there's no stabilization to prevent
> them from growing so they will.
>
> the silver puppy, silvergen, colloid master, & others are much better
> quality design, parts & construction, & cheaper too if ionic cs is all you
> was to make.
>
> if you are willing to learn & sacrifice automated control in favor of
> total manual control you can buy a complete kit that will make ionic by the
> juice glass or 55gal drum & go far beyond that into reducing ions to
> optimally sized nanoparticles, stabilize them at that size, & encapsulate
> them for protection from stomach acid.
>
> ionic cs saved my life & managed my hepC symptoms amazingly well for a
> decade.  now i drink stable capped nanoparticles & use ionic in blends and
> topically.
>
> BTW, i got rid of the hepC w/ big pharma/VA treatment in 2012.  while cs
> mkept me feeling well, no colds or flus etc, it did NOT stop progression of
> liver damage into cirhossis cuz it cannot effectively get to the virus
> inside liver cells.
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Mar 25, 2017, at 3:21 PM, Jean Baugh <oldgloryte...@srcaccess.net>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Jerry,
>
>
>
> Thank you for this informative post.
>
>
>
> I make my CS by the gallon with the SilverGen.
>
>
>
> Jean
>
>
>
> *
>
>
>
> *From: *Jerry Durand <jdur...@interstellar.com>
>
> (if it produces smaller ions, then it’s going to be more effective, so
> maybe it’s worth the investment..)
>
>
> A comment on this one line, ALL silver ions, no matter how you got them
> are the same size.  Exactly.  No differences unless you make a radioactive
> isotope and I don't think you want that.
>
>

RE: CS>What's the best CS Generator?

[Y Arenias]

Thank you all again for some very helpful info.

I’m not sure how to send a message and keep the thread going, so sorry I keep 
starting a new thread

Bob, What does it mean to stabilize the ionic silver and encapsulate it? (I 
thought that once you make the stuff, if you keep it in a dark place, then it 
should keep fine – I heard that the ).

Sounds like it’s really important to keep those electrodes clean to make sure 
one doesn’t ingest too much black stuff!

 

 

From: bob Larson [mailto:bobli...@att.net] 
Subject: Re: CS>What's the best CS Generator?

 

right, bubbled O2 won't combine w/the Ag+ ions.

but you don't need any silver nitrate involved process either.

if you want silver oxide make some cs w/ a battery or other d.c. power source.  
the black stuff that grows on the anode (+) is it.

as others have said, ion size is fixed.  the silveredge makes cs  pretty much 
just like everybody elses, the hype is just that.  the particles that form 
might be a small optimal size but there's no stabilization to prevent them from 
growing so they will.

the silver puppy, silvergen, colloid master, & others are much better quality 
design, parts & construction, & cheaper too if ionic cs is all you was to make.

if you are willing to learn & sacrifice automated control in favor of total 
manual control you can buy a complete kit that will make ionic by the juice 
glass or 55gal drum & go far beyond that into reducing ions to optimally sized 
nanoparticles, stabilize them at that size, & encapsulate them for protection 
from stomach acid.  

ionic cs saved my life & managed my hepC symptoms amazingly well for a decade.  
now i drink stable capped nanoparticles & use ionic in blends and topically.

BTW, i got rid of the hepC w/ big pharma/VA treatment in 2012.  while cs mkept 
me feeling well, no colds or flus etc, it did NOT stop progression of liver 
damage into cirhossis cuz it cannot effectively get to the virus inside liver 
cells.



Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 25, 2017, at 3:21 PM, Jean Baugh <oldgloryte...@srcaccess.net> wrote:

Hi Jerry,

 

Thank you for this informative post.

 

I make my CS by the gallon with the SilverGen.

 

Jean

 

*

 

From: Jerry Durand <jdur...@interstellar.com>

(if it produces smaller ions, then it’s going to be more effective, so maybe 
it’s worth the investment..)


A comment on this one line, ALL silver ions, no matter how you got them are the 
same size.  Exactly.  No differences unless you make a radioactive isotope and 
I don't think you want that.

Re: CS>What's the best CS Generator?

[Gmail]

I ve used a silver puppy for 15 years. 
I have given many as presents thru the years.

The big lie is the idea that those who are in power will represent the 
interests of others who have no power. Mike Adams

> On Mar 25, 2017, at 7:55 PM, bob Larson  wrote:
> 
> right, bubbled O2 won't combine w/the Ag+ ions.
> but you don't need any silver nitrate involved process either.
> if you want silver oxide make some cs w/ a battery or other d.c. power 
> source.  the black stuff that grows on the anode (+) is it.
> as others have said, ion size is fixed.  the silveredge makes cs  pretty much 
> just like everybody elses, the hype is just that.  the particles that form 
> might be a small optimal size but there's no stabilization to prevent them 
> from growing so they will.
> the silver puppy, silvergen, colloid master, & others are much better quality 
> design, parts & construction, & cheaper too if ionic cs is all you was to 
> make.
> if you are willing to learn & sacrifice automated control in favor of total 
> manual control you can buy a complete kit that will make ionic by the juice 
> glass or 55gal drum & go far beyond that into reducing ions to optimally 
> sized nanoparticles, stabilize them at that size, & encapsulate them for 
> protection from stomach acid.  
> ionic cs saved my life & managed my hepC symptoms amazingly well for a 
> decade.  now i drink stable capped nanoparticles & use ionic in blends and 
> topically.
> BTW, i got rid of the hepC w/ big pharma/VA treatment in 2012.  while cs 
> mkept me feeling well, no colds or flus etc, it did NOT stop progression of 
> liver damage into cirhossis cuz it cannot effectively get to the virus inside 
> liver cells.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 25, 2017, at 3:21 PM, Jean Baugh  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Jerry,
>> 
>> Thank you for this informative post.
>> 
>> I make my CS by the gallon with the SilverGen.
>> 
>> Jean
>> 
>> *
>> 
>> From: Jerry Durand 
>>> (if it produces smaller ions, then it’s going to be more effective, so 
>>> maybe it’s worth the investment..)
>> 
>> A comment on this one line, ALL silver ions, no matter how you got them are 
>> the same size.  Exactly.  No differences unless you make a radioactive 
>> isotope and I don't think you want that.

Re: CS>What's the best CS Generator?

[bob Larson]

right, bubbled O2 won't combine w/the Ag+ ions.
but you don't need any silver nitrate involved process either.
if you want silver oxide make some cs w/ a battery or other d.c. power source.  
the black stuff that grows on the anode (+) is it.
as others have said, ion size is fixed.  the silveredge makes cs  pretty much 
just like everybody elses, the hype is just that.  the particles that form 
might be a small optimal size but there's no stabilization to prevent them from 
growing so they will.
the silver puppy, silvergen, colloid master, & others are much better quality 
design, parts & construction, & cheaper too if ionic cs is all you was to make.
if you are willing to learn & sacrifice automated control in favor of total 
manual control you can buy a complete kit that will make ionic by the juice 
glass or 55gal drum & go far beyond that into reducing ions to optimally sized 
nanoparticles, stabilize them at that size, & encapsulate them for protection 
from stomach acid.  
ionic cs saved my life & managed my hepC symptoms amazingly well for a decade.  
now i drink stable capped nanoparticles & use ionic in blends and topically.
BTW, i got rid of the hepC w/ big pharma/VA treatment in 2012.  while cs mkept 
me feeling well, no colds or flus etc, it did NOT stop progression of liver 
damage into cirhossis cuz it cannot effectively get to the virus inside liver 
cells.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 25, 2017, at 3:21 PM, Jean Baugh  wrote:
> 
> Hi Jerry,
> 
> Thank you for this informative post.
> 
> I make my CS by the gallon with the SilverGen.
> 
> Jean
> 
> *
> 
> From: Jerry Durand 
>> (if it produces smaller ions, then it’s going to be more effective, so maybe 
>> it’s worth the investment..)
> 
> A comment on this one line, ALL silver ions, no matter how you got them are 
> the same size.  Exactly.  No differences unless you make a radioactive 
> isotope and I don't think you want that.

CS>What's the best CS Generator?

[Jean Baugh]

Hi Jerry,

Thank you for this informative post.

I make my CS by the gallon with the SilverGen.

Jean

*

From:  Jerry Durand 
> (if it produces smaller ions, then it¹s going to be more effective, so maybe
> it¹s worth the investment..)

A comment on this one line, ALL silver ions, no matter how you got them are
the same size.  Exactly.  No differences unless you make a radioactive
isotope and I don't think you want that.

Re: CS>What's the best CS Generator?

[Smitty]

Hey people.
You can't put a price on good health  !!

On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 11:22 AM, Jerry Durand 
wrote:

>
>
> On 03/25/2017 02:08 PM, Y Arenias wrote:
>
> I agree that it does seem overpriced, but if it produces smaller ions,
> then it’s going to be more effective, so maybe it’s worth the investment.
>
>
> A comment on this one line, ALL silver ions, no matter how you got them
> are the same size.  Exactly.  No differences unless you make a radioactive
> isotope and I don't think you want that.
>
> --
> Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc.www.interstellar.com
> tel: +1 408 356-3886 <(408)%20356-3886>
> @DurandInterstel
>
>
>

Re: CS>What's the best CS Generator?

[Jerry Durand]

On 03/25/2017 02:08 PM, Y Arenias wrote:
> I agree that it does seem overpriced, but if it produces smaller ions,
> then it’s going to be more effective, so maybe it’s worth the investment.

A comment on this one line, ALL silver ions, no matter how you got them
are the same size.  Exactly.  No differences unless you make a
radioactive isotope and I don't think you want that.

-- 
Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc.
www.interstellar.com
tel: +1 408 356-3886
@DurandInterstel

Re: CS>What's the best CS Generator?

[PT Ferrance]

I use a silverpuppy and I am more than happy with it.  I use the convection 
agitation.If there is ever a question Ode is always available to answer it.
PT
 


  From: Y Arenias <yaren...@gmail.com>
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 5:08 PM
 Subject: RE: CS>What's the best CS Generator?
   
Thank you all for your replies!Re oxygen 
making silver oxide, so apparently it definitely doesn’t happen with a bubbler. 
A chemist friend explained like this (please correct me if he’s wrong):  If it 
was a simple matter of bubbling oxygen into a silver ion solution to form 
silver oxide, chemists wouldn't have to go through the chemical reactions and 
add (1) silver nitrate AgNO3(aq) to (2) sodium hydroxide NaOH(aq) (caustic soda 
also known as lye, the chemical liquid drain openers comprise of), as follows: 
NaOH(aq)+AgNO3(aq)→AgOH(s)+NaNO3(aq) And then there’s a subsequent double 
reaction: 2AgOH→Ag2O(s)+H2O(l) = silver oxide(The small (s) is for solid and 
the (l) is for liquid as silver oxide or for that matter silver hydroxide are 
of very low solubility.) I agree that it does seem overpriced, but if it 
produces smaller ions, then it’s going to be more effective, so maybe it’s 
worth the investment. So since a bubbler is a better agitator (keeping the 
ions/particles from agglomerating) than a magnetic stirrer, then it seems 
worth. If anyone has any more thoughts on what’s the best CS generator please 
let me know. Of course the criteria are the smallest ions/particles possible 
(i.e., without agglomeration), and a strong, easy to use/maintain machine.  
From: bob Larson [mailto:bobli...@att.net] 
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2017 9:19 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>What's the best CS Generator?  mag stir plate is far better 
than bubbles.  the silveredge is way inflated overpriced & mr. barwick has in 
past presented a lot of skewed info among good info.  
adding Oxygen O2 to silver ions in water only makes silver oxide doesn't it ?  
so?
On Mar 22, 2017, at 4:20 PM, Jerry Durand <jdur...@interstellar.com> wrote:
I go with the SilverPuppy.  On 03/22/2017 04:17 PM, Y Arenias wrote:
Hi everyone, I’ve spent a lot of time researching CS generators, and it seems 
the internet is full of conflicting information.I’ve read studies that say 
adding oxygen to silver ions makes them way more powerful in destroying 
pathogens, which points to buying a Microparticle CS generator from SilverEdge. 
Also, an oxygen bubbler seems to be the most powerful agitator which keeps the 
ions at their smallest. So while I know some people say a bubbler might 
introduce dust, seems unlikely since the bubbles are at high pressure and go in 
and out at a fast rate. Ozone machines are used to bubble ozone into water for 
drinking (large amounts) and I’ve never heard anyone saying there’s a problem 
with dust. What do people say?Thanks! Y 


-- Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc.www.interstellar.comtel: +1 408 
356-3886@DurandInterstel  


   

RE: CS>What's the best CS Generator?

[Y Arenias]

Thank you all for your replies!

Re oxygen making silver oxide, so apparently it definitely doesn’t happen with 
a bubbler. A chemist friend explained like this (please correct me if he’s 
wrong):

 

If it was a simple matter of bubbling oxygen into a silver ion solution to form 
silver oxide, chemists wouldn't have to go through the chemical reactions and 
add (1) silver nitrate AgNO3(aq) to (2) sodium hydroxide NaOH(aq) (caustic soda 
also known as lye, the chemical liquid drain openers comprise of), as follows: 
NaOH(aq)+AgNO3(aq)→AgOH(s)+NaNO3(aq) 

And then there’s a subsequent double reaction: 2AgOH→Ag2O(s)+H2O(l) = silver 
oxide

(The small (s) is for solid and the (l) is for liquid as silver oxide or for 
that matter silver hydroxide are of very low solubility.) 

I agree that it does seem overpriced, but if it produces smaller ions, then 
it’s going to be more effective, so maybe it’s worth the investment. So since a 
bubbler is a better agitator (keeping the ions/particles from agglomerating) 
than a magnetic stirrer, then it seems worth. If anyone has any more thoughts 
on what’s the best CS generator please let me know. Of course the criteria are 
the smallest ions/particles possible (i.e., without agglomeration), and a 
strong, easy to use/maintain machine.

 

From: bob Larson [mailto:bobli...@att.net] 
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2017 9:19 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>What's the best CS Generator?

 

mag stir plate is far better than bubbles.  the silveredge is way inflated 
overpriced & mr. barwick has in past presented a lot of skewed info among good 
info.  
adding Oxygen O2 to silver ions in water only makes silver oxide doesn't it ?  
so?


On Mar 22, 2017, at 4:20 PM, Jerry Durand <jdur...@interstellar.com> wrote:

I go with the SilverPuppy.  

On 03/22/2017 04:17 PM, Y Arenias wrote:

Hi everyone, I’ve spent a lot of time researching CS generators, and it seems 
the internet is full of conflicting information.

I’ve read studies that say adding oxygen to silver ions makes them way more 
powerful in destroying pathogens, which points to buying a Microparticle CS 
generator from SilverEdge. Also, an oxygen bubbler seems to be the most 
powerful agitator which keeps the ions at their smallest. So while I know some 
people say a bubbler might introduce dust, seems unlikely since the bubbles are 
at high pressure and go in and out at a fast rate. Ozone machines are used to 
bubble ozone into water for drinking (large amounts) and I’ve never heard 
anyone saying there’s a problem with dust. What do people say?

Thanks! 

Y

 





-- 
Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc.
www.interstellar.com
tel: +1 408 356-3886
@DurandInterstel
 

Re: CS>What's the best CS Generator?

[bob Larson]

mag stir plate is
 far better than bubbles.  the silveredge is way inflated overpriced & mr. 
barwick has in past presented a lot of skewed info among good info.  
adding Oxygen O2 to silver ions in water only makes silver oxide doesn't it ?  
so?

> On Mar 22, 2017, at 4:20 PM, Jerry Durand <jdur...@interstellar.com> wrote:
> 
> I go with the SilverPuppy.  
> 
>> On 03/22/2017 04:17 PM, Y Arenias wrote:
>> Hi everyone, I’ve spent a lot of time researching CS generators, and it 
>> seems the internet is full of conflicting information.
>> I’ve read studies that say adding oxygen to   silver ions makes them 
>> way more powerful in destroying pathogens, which points to buying a 
>> Microparticle CS generator from SilverEdge. Also, an oxygen bubbler seems to 
>> be the most powerful agitator which keeps the ions at their smallest. So 
>> while I know some people say a bubbler might introduce dust, seems unlikely 
>> since the bubbles are at high pressure and go in and out at a fast rate. 
>> Ozone machines are used to bubble ozone into water for drinking (large 
>> amounts) and I’ve never heard anyone saying there’s a problem with dust. 
>> What do people say?
>> Thanks!
>> Y
>>  
> 
> -- 
> Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc.
> www.interstellar.com
> tel: +1 408 356-3886
> @DurandInterstel
> 

Re: CS>What's the best CS Generator?

[Lena Guyot]

I've heard of other good generators, but I'd already purchased my SilverPuppy 
and it has served me so well for at least 8 years now, and the CS/EIS it 
generates has helped me greatly with my decades-long chronic Lyme, cleared my 
sinuses for good, and helped my eyes recover from dry-eye, uveitis, 
iridotomies, and cataract surgery.

Be well,
Léna
On Mar 22, 2017, at 7:20 PM, Jerry Durand wrote:

> I go with the SilverPuppy.  
> 
> On 03/22/2017 04:17 PM, Y Arenias wrote:
>> Hi everyone, I’ve spent a lot of time researching CS generators, and it 
>> seems the internet is full of conflicting information.
>> I’ve read studies that say adding oxygen to silver ions makes them way more 
>> powerful in destroying pathogens, which points to buying a Microparticle CS 
>> generator from SilverEdge. Also, an oxygen bubbler seems to be the most 
>> powerful agitator which keeps the ions at their smallest. So while I know 
>> some people say a bubbler might introduce dust, seems unlikely since the 
>> bubbles are at high pressure and go in and out at a fast rate. Ozone 
>> machines are used to bubble ozone into water for drinking (large amounts) 
>> and I’ve never heard anyone saying there’s a problem with dust. What do 
>> people say?
>> Thanks!
>> Y
>>  
> 
> -- 
> Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc.
> www.interstellar.com
> tel: +1 408 356-3886
> @DurandInterstel
> 

Re: CS>What's the best CS Generator?

[Jerry Durand]

I go with the SilverPuppy. 

On 03/22/2017 04:17 PM, Y Arenias wrote:
>
> Hi everyone, I’ve spent a lot of time researching CS generators, and
> it seems the internet is full of conflicting information.
>
> I’ve read studies that say adding oxygen to silver ions makes them way
> more powerful in destroying pathogens, which points to buying a
> Microparticle CS generator from SilverEdge. Also, an oxygen bubbler
> seems to be the most powerful agitator which keeps the ions at their
> smallest. So while I know some people say a bubbler might introduce
> dust, seems unlikely since the bubbles are at high pressure and go in
> and out at a fast rate. Ozone machines are used to bubble ozone into
> water for drinking (large amounts) and I’ve never heard anyone saying
> there’s a problem with dust. What do people say?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Y
>
>  
>

-- 
Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc.
www.interstellar.com
tel: +1 408 356-3886
@DurandInterstel

CS>What's the best CS Generator?

[Y Arenias]

Hi everyone, I've spent a lot of time researching CS generators, and it
seems the internet is full of conflicting information.

I've read studies that say adding oxygen to silver ions makes them way more
powerful in destroying pathogens, which points to buying a Microparticle CS
generator from SilverEdge. Also, an oxygen bubbler seems to be the most
powerful agitator which keeps the ions at their smallest. So while I know
some people say a bubbler might introduce dust, seems unlikely since the
bubbles are at high pressure and go in and out at a fast rate. Ozone
machines are used to bubble ozone into water for drinking (large amounts)
and I've never heard anyone saying there's a problem with dust. What do
people say?

Thanks! 

Y

 

CSGallon CS generator

[Al Bedoya]

I have the Silvonic 1G from Elixa.com that makes a gallon at a time, has a 
magnetic stirrer, and a lifetime warranty. www.elixa.com/silver/Silvonic1G.htmI 
checked out all the other systems and these guys answered all my questions 
clearly and quickly. Excellent customer service and fast shipping.They also 
have an inexpensive nebulizer and an ointment kit.Cool instructional videos 
too. I follow their advice about usage... when in doubt, use more!Abe 

Re: CSRecommendations for CS generator

[PT Ferrance]

I love my silver puppy and would recommend it to anyone!
PT





From: Walter Anderson walter.ander...@outlook.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, February 20, 2013 12:02:57 AM
Subject: CSRecommendations for CS generator

We would like to buy a quality CS generator for home use. By quality, we
mean a unit that produces quality CS as well as a quality unit that we can
expect to work well for many years to come with minimal maintenance.

We do not have any personal experience with a CS generator, though we've
enjoyed CS given to us by a friend in the past who uses the home unit from
www.silvergen.com. She's been fairly happy with it, but recommended we ask
here as she hasn't looked into this for some time.

FYI we have both 24VDC and 60Hz 120VAC true sine wave power available in our
off-grid home, though we like to turn the AC power off while we sleep.

Ideally, we would like to buy a unit built to produce excellent quality CS,
last 20+ years with only electrode replacement, and accept electrodes that
are not more costly than necessary.

Is there such a unit available for sale?

What would you recommend?

This is new to us, so all feedback and suggestions--even what to look for,
if not a recommendation of a specific unit--are welcome. If you recommend a
specific unit, we'd love to know what features lead you to recommend it.

Thanks for your time! Please let us know if we can help with any further
information.



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Re: CSRecommendations for CS generator

[Gene Wolfe]

I have both a silver puppy and a silvergen. They are both excellent units.

I did have a problem with the puppy and emailed Ode and he came back and 
said he would fix anything for $20. I mailed the unit back to him with 
$20 and he fixed it and sent it back with a $10 bill. You can't ask for 
better service.


Gene

On 2/19/2013 11:02 PM, Walter Anderson wrote:

We would like to buy a quality CS generator for home use. By quality, we
mean a unit that produces quality CS as well as a quality unit that we can
expect to work well for many years to come with minimal maintenance.

We do not have any personal experience with a CS generator, though we've
enjoyed CS given to us by a friend in the past who uses the home unit from
www.silvergen.com. She's been fairly happy with it, but recommended we ask
here as she hasn't looked into this for some time.

FYI we have both 24VDC and 60Hz 120VAC true sine wave power available in our
off-grid home, though we like to turn the AC power off while we sleep.

Ideally, we would like to buy a unit built to produce excellent quality CS,
last 20+ years with only electrode replacement, and accept electrodes that
are not more costly than necessary.

Is there such a unit available for sale?

What would you recommend?

This is new to us, so all feedback and suggestions--even what to look for,
if not a recommendation of a specific unit--are welcome. If you recommend a
specific unit, we'd love to know what features lead you to recommend it.

Thanks for your time! Please let us know if we can help with any further
information.



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Re: CSRecommendations for CS generator

[ATOMICSILVER]

I sent my cs generator back to Silvergen - he wanted over $ 100 to fix  
it , was aggressive in chasing me for payment and generally pretty  
unpleasant to deal with - take your choice !

On 20/02/2013, at 9:17, Gene Wolfe wrote:

I have both a silver puppy and a silvergen. They are both excellent  
units.


I did have a problem with the puppy and emailed Ode and he came back  
and said he would fix anything for $20. I mailed the unit back to  
him with $20 and he fixed it and sent it back with a $10 bill. You  
can't ask for better service.


Gene

On 2/19/2013 11:02 PM, Walter Anderson wrote:
We would like to buy a quality CS generator for home use. By  
quality, we
mean a unit that produces quality CS as well as a quality unit that  
we can

expect to work well for many years to come with minimal maintenance.

We do not have any personal experience with a CS generator, though  
we've
enjoyed CS given to us by a friend in the past who uses the home  
unit from
www.silvergen.com. She's been fairly happy with it, but recommended  
we ask

here as she hasn't looked into this for some time.

FYI we have both 24VDC and 60Hz 120VAC true sine wave power  
available in our
off-grid home, though we like to turn the AC power off while we  
sleep.


Ideally, we would like to buy a unit built to produce excellent  
quality CS,
last 20+ years with only electrode replacement, and accept  
electrodes that

are not more costly than necessary.

Is there such a unit available for sale?

What would you recommend?

This is new to us, so all feedback and suggestions--even what to  
look for,
if not a recommendation of a specific unit--are welcome. If you  
recommend a
specific unit, we'd love to know what features lead you to  
recommend it.


Thanks for your time! Please let us know if we can help with any  
further

information.



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Re: CSRecommendations for CS generator

[Lena Guyot]

Some folks get as fiercely loyal to their equipment as their sports teams. I 
don't feel that way, but can speak from my own experience that my Silver Puppy 
has served me well for years now. I'm sure others are great, too.
Be well,
Léna
On Feb 20, 2013, at 10:17 AM, Gene Wolfe wrote:

 I have both a silver puppy and a silvergen. They are both excellent units.
 
 I did have a problem with the puppy and emailed Ode and he came back and said 
 he would fix anything for $20. I mailed the unit back to him with $20 and he 
 fixed it and sent it back with a $10 bill. You can't ask for better service.
 
 Gene
 
 On 2/19/2013 11:02 PM, Walter Anderson wrote:
 We would like to buy a quality CS generator for home use. By quality, we
 mean a unit that produces quality CS as well as a quality unit that we can
 expect to work well for many years to come with minimal maintenance.
 
 We do not have any personal experience with a CS generator, though we've
 enjoyed CS given to us by a friend in the past who uses the home unit from
 www.silvergen.com. She's been fairly happy with it, but recommended we ask
 here as she hasn't looked into this for some time.
 
 FYI we have both 24VDC and 60Hz 120VAC true sine wave power available in our
 off-grid home, though we like to turn the AC power off while we sleep.
 
 Ideally, we would like to buy a unit built to produce excellent quality CS,
 last 20+ years with only electrode replacement, and accept electrodes that
 are not more costly than necessary.
 
 Is there such a unit available for sale?
 
 What would you recommend?
 
 This is new to us, so all feedback and suggestions--even what to look for,
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RE: CSRecommendations for CS generator

[Judy Knowlton]

Well, my Silver Puppy is wonderful -- had it
several years now.
I sent one to my 55 year old son in Myrtle Beach
for Christmas this year -- he has always used
units he made himself, but he has to watch them
and turn them off -- a problem when you have to go
to work!
The Puppy shuts off automatically.  My son is
making silver like mad, curing dogs and cats and
friends like never before.
I told him it was wonderful when an elderly mother
can give her son a toy for Christmas he really
loves to play with!
Judy Down Maine



-Original Message-
From: Lena Guyot [mailto:drumr...@stny.rr.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 10:49 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSRecommendations for CS generator


Some folks get as fiercely loyal to their
equipment as their sports teams. I don't feel that
way, but can speak from my own experience that my
Silver Puppy has served me well for years now. I'm
sure others are great, too.
Be well,
Léna

On Feb 20, 2013, at 10:17 AM, Gene Wolfe wrote:


  I have both a silver puppy and a silvergen. They
are both excellent units.

  I did have a problem with the puppy and emailed
Ode and he came back and said he would fix
anything for $20. I mailed the unit back to him
with $20 and he fixed it and sent it back with a
$10 bill. You can't ask for better service.

  Gene


  On 2/19/2013 11:02 PM, Walter Anderson wrote:

We would like to buy a quality CS generator for
home use. By quality, we
mean a unit that produces quality CS as well as a
quality unit that we can
expect to work well for many years to come with
minimal maintenance.

We do not have any personal experience with a CS
generator, though we've
enjoyed CS given to us by a friend in the past who
uses the home unit from
www.silvergen.com. She's been fairly happy with
it, but recommended we ask
here as she hasn't looked into this for some time.

FYI we have both 24VDC and 60Hz 120VAC true sine
wave power available in our
off-grid home, though we like to turn the AC power
off while we sleep.

Ideally, we would like to buy a unit built to
produce excellent quality CS,
last 20+ years with only electrode replacement,
and accept electrodes that
are not more costly than necessary.

Is there such a unit available for sale?

What would you recommend?

This is new to us, so all feedback and
suggestions--even what to look for,
if not a recommendation of a specific unit--are
welcome. If you recommend a
specific unit, we'd love to know what features
lead you to recommend it.

Thanks for your time! Please let us know if we can
help with any further
information.



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Re: CSRecommendations for CS generator

[James McDonald]

Is there anybody in your family that is into electronics? If so they can build 
you a CS generator with all the refinements that you would want and it would 
cost under $60.00. And the electrode replacement could be 10guage to 16guage 
99.9% silver wire. Or could use a coin(silver maple leaf) It is not hard to 
build your own with a minium of electronics knowledge. You will spend a lot 
less and get a unit that does what you need. I have built several and the 
cheapest unit and cost only $22.00(including silver) for a friend who did'nt 
have much money, its been used for over a year now.




 From: Judy Knowlton judydownma...@roadrunner.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 11:03 AM
Subject: RE: CSRecommendations for CS generator
 

Well, my Silver 
Puppy is wonderful -- had it several years now.
I sent one 
to my 55 year old son in Myrtle Beach for Christmas this year -- he 
has always used units he made himself, but he has to watch 
them
and turn them off -- 
a problem when you have to go to work!
The Puppy shuts off 
automatically.  My son is making silver like mad, curing dogs and cats 
and friends like never before.
I told him it was 
wonderful when an elderly mother can give her son a toy for Christmas he really 
loves to play with!
Judy Down 
Maine
  
-Original Message-
From: Lena Guyot 
[mailto:drumr...@stny.rr.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 10:49 
AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: 
CSRecommendations for CS generator

Some folks get as fiercely loyal to their 
equipment as their sports teams. I don't feel that way, but can speak from my 
own experience that my Silver Puppy has served me well for years now. I'm sure 
others are great, too. 
Be well,
Léna

On Feb 20, 2013, at 10:17 AM, Gene Wolfe wrote:

I have both a silver puppy and a  silvergen. They are both excellent units.

I did have a problem with the 
  puppy and emailed Ode and he came back and said he would fix anything for 
$20. 
  I mailed the unit back to him with $20 and he fixed it and sent it back with 
a 
  $10 bill. You can't ask for better service.

Gene

 
On 2/19/2013 11:02 PM, Walter Anderson  wrote:

We would like to buy a quality CS generator for home use. By quality, we
mean a unit that produces quality CS as well as a quality unit that we can
expect to work well for many years to come with minimal maintenance. We do not 
have any personal experience with a CS generator, though we've
enjoyed CS given to us by a friend in the past who uses the home unit from 
www.silvergen.com. She's been fairly happy with it, but recommended we ask
here as she hasn't looked into this for some time. FYI we have both 24VDC and 
60Hz 120VAC true sine wave power available in our
off-grid home, though we like to turn the AC power off while we sleep. Ideally, 
we would like to buy a unit built to produce excellent quality CS,
last 20+ years with only electrode replacement, and accept electrodes that
are not more costly than necessary. Is there such a unit available for sale? 
What would you recommend? This is new to us, so all feedback and 
suggestions--even what to look for,
if not a recommendation of a specific unit--are welcome. If you recommend a
specific unit, we'd love to know what features lead you to recommend it. Thanks 
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Re: CSRecommendations for CS generator

[Jaxi Schulz]

I also love my Silver Puppy - super easy, fits perfectly over a quart jar
(I make it a quart at a time), I have the magnetic stirring thing, auto
switch setting and it shuts off when done.  Basically it is pretty much
idiot proof.  When I am in high need I can make batches back to back no
problem and get a decent number of back up jars made for use or giving away
as needed.

Jaxi

On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 8:13 AM, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 I love my silver puppy and would recommend it to anyone!
 PT

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 *From:* Walter Anderson walter.ander...@outlook.com
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Wed, February 20, 2013 12:02:57 AM
 *Subject:* CSRecommendations for CS generator

 We would like to buy a quality CS generator for home use. By quality, we
 mean a unit that produces quality CS as well as a quality unit that we can
 expect to work well for many years to come with minimal maintenance.

 We do not have any personal experience with a CS generator, though we've
 enjoyed CS given to us by a friend in the past who uses the home unit from
 www.silvergen.com. She's been fairly happy with it, but recommended we ask
 here as she hasn't looked into this for some time.

 FYI we have both 24VDC and 60Hz 120VAC true sine wave power available in
 our
 off-grid home, though we like to turn the AC power off while we sleep.

 Ideally, we would like to buy a unit built to produce excellent quality CS,
 last 20+ years with only electrode replacement, and accept electrodes that
 are not more costly than necessary.

 Is there such a unit available for sale?

 What would you recommend?

 This is new to us, so all feedback and suggestions--even what to look for,
 if not a recommendation of a specific unit--are welcome. If you recommend a
 specific unit, we'd love to know what features lead you to recommend it.

 Thanks for your time! Please let us know if we can help with any further
 information.



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Re: CSRecommendations for CS generator. / Go Puppy Go !!

[ZZekelink]

 
In a message dated 2/20/2013 12:02:38 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
walter.ander...@outlook.com writes:

We would  like to buy a quality CS generator for home use. By quality, we
mean a unit  that produces quality CS as well as a quality unit that we can
expect to  work well for many years to come with minimal  maintenance.




II love my silver Puppy. I used the 4 nine volt  batteries for a couple 
years  they worked fine but nothing like the ease of  the Puppy... Ode is 
great with any questions you may have---  Lois

Re: CSRecommendations for CS generator

[Monique Sauve]

Does anyone on this list use:
http://www.thesilveredge.com/howto.shtml

If so how do you like it?

Thanks
Monique


On 2/20/2013 7:30 AM, ATOMICSILVER wrote:
I sent my cs generator back to Silvergen - he wanted over $ 100 to fix 
it , was aggressive in chasing me for payment and generally pretty 
unpleasant to deal with - take your choice !

On 20/02/2013, at 9:17, Gene Wolfe wrote:

I have both a silver puppy and a silvergen. They are both excellent 
units.


I did have a problem with the puppy and emailed Ode and he came back 
and said he would fix anything for $20. I mailed the unit back to him 
with $20 and he fixed it and sent it back with a $10 bill. You can't 
ask for better service.


Gene

On 2/19/2013 11:02 PM, Walter Anderson wrote:

We would like to buy a quality CS generator for home use. By quality, we
mean a unit that produces quality CS as well as a quality unit that we can
expect to work well for many years to come with minimal maintenance.

We do not have any personal experience with a CS generator, though we've
enjoyed CS given to us by a friend in the past who uses the home unit from
www.silvergen.com. She's been fairly happy with it, but recommended we ask
here as she hasn't looked into this for some time.

FYI we have both 24VDC and 60Hz 120VAC true sine wave power available in our
off-grid home, though we like to turn the AC power off while we sleep.

Ideally, we would like to buy a unit built to produce excellent quality CS,
last 20+ years with only electrode replacement, and accept electrodes that
are not more costly than necessary.

Is there such a unit available for sale?

What would you recommend?

This is new to us, so all feedback and suggestions--even what to look for,
if not a recommendation of a specific unit--are welcome. If you recommend a
specific unit, we'd love to know what features lead you to recommend it.

Thanks for your time! Please let us know if we can help with any further
information.



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Re: CSRecommendations for CS generator

[Jaxi Schulz]

That costs WAY WAY too much for what you're getting IMO.  Silver Puppy or
Silver Gen would be better choices.  Again, IMO.

Jaxi

On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Monique Sauve moniquesa...@shaw.ca wrote:

  Does anyone on this list use:
 http://www.thesilveredge.com/howto.shtml

 If so how do you like it?

 Thanks
 Monique



 On 2/20/2013 7:30 AM, ATOMICSILVER wrote:

 I sent my cs generator back to Silvergen - he wanted over $ 100 to fix it
 , was aggressive in chasing me for payment and generally pretty unpleasant
 to deal with - take your choice !
  On 20/02/2013, at 9:17, Gene Wolfe wrote:

  I have both a silver puppy and a silvergen. They are both excellent
 units.

 I did have a problem with the puppy and emailed Ode and he came back and
 said he would fix anything for $20. I mailed the unit back to him with $20
 and he fixed it and sent it back with a $10 bill. You can't ask for better
 service.

 Gene

  On 2/19/2013 11:02 PM, Walter Anderson wrote:

 We would like to buy a quality CS generator for home use. By quality, we
 mean a unit that produces quality CS as well as a quality unit that we can
 expect to work well for many years to come with minimal maintenance.

 We do not have any personal experience with a CS generator, though we've
 enjoyed CS given to us by a friend in the past who uses the home unit 
 fromwww.silvergen.com. She's been fairly happy with it, but recommended we ask
 here as she hasn't looked into this for some time.

 FYI we have both 24VDC and 60Hz 120VAC true sine wave power available in our
 off-grid home, though we like to turn the AC power off while we sleep.

 Ideally, we would like to buy a unit built to produce excellent quality CS,
 last 20+ years with only electrode replacement, and accept electrodes that
 are not more costly than necessary.

 Is there such a unit available for sale?

 What would you recommend?

 This is new to us, so all feedback and suggestions--even what to look for,
 if not a recommendation of a specific unit--are welcome. If you recommend a
 specific unit, we'd love to know what features lead you to recommend it.

 Thanks for your time! Please let us know if we can help with any further
 information.



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Re: CSRecommendations for CS generator

[James McDonald]

I have always used my homebuilt CS generators, the money saved buys plenty of 
the 10guage 99.99% silver wire!





 From: Monique Sauve moniquesa...@shaw.ca
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 4:10 PM
Subject: Re: CSRecommendations for CS generator
 

Does anyone on this list use:
http://www.thesilveredge.com/howto.shtml

If so how do you like it?

Thanks
Monique



On 2/20/2013 7:30 AM, ATOMICSILVER wrote:

I sent my cs generator back to Silvergen - he wanted over $ 100 to fix it , was 
aggressive in chasing me for payment and generally pretty unpleasant to deal 
with - take your choice !

On 20/02/2013, at 9:17, Gene Wolfe wrote:

I have both a silver puppy and a silvergen. They are both excellent units.

I did have a problem with the puppy and emailed Ode and he
  came back and said he would fix anything for $20. I mailed
  the unit back to him with $20 and he fixed it and sent it
  back with a $10 bill. You can't ask for better service.

Gene

 
On 2/19/2013 11:02 PM, Walter Anderson wrote:

We would like to buy a quality CS generator for home use. By quality, we
mean a unit that produces quality CS as well as a quality unit that we can
expect to work well for many years to come with minimal maintenance. We do not 
have any personal experience with a CS generator, though we've
enjoyed CS given to us by a friend in the past who uses the home unit from 
www.silvergen.com. She's been fairly happy with it, but recommended we ask
here as she hasn't looked into this for some time. FYI we have both 24VDC and 
60Hz 120VAC true sine wave power available in our
off-grid home, though we like to turn the AC power off while we sleep. Ideally, 
we would like to buy a unit built to produce excellent quality CS,
last 20+ years with only electrode replacement, and accept electrodes that
are not more costly than necessary. Is there such a unit available for sale? 
What would you recommend? This is new to us, so all feedback and 
suggestions--even what to look for,
if not a recommendation of a specific unit--are welcome. If you recommend a
specific unit, we'd love to know what features lead you to recommend it. Thanks 
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CSRecommendations for CS generator

[Walter Anderson]

We would like to buy a quality CS generator for home use. By quality, we
mean a unit that produces quality CS as well as a quality unit that we can
expect to work well for many years to come with minimal maintenance.

We do not have any personal experience with a CS generator, though we've
enjoyed CS given to us by a friend in the past who uses the home unit from
www.silvergen.com. She's been fairly happy with it, but recommended we ask
here as she hasn't looked into this for some time.

FYI we have both 24VDC and 60Hz 120VAC true sine wave power available in our
off-grid home, though we like to turn the AC power off while we sleep.

Ideally, we would like to buy a unit built to produce excellent quality CS,
last 20+ years with only electrode replacement, and accept electrodes that
are not more costly than necessary.

Is there such a unit available for sale?

What would you recommend?

This is new to us, so all feedback and suggestions--even what to look for,
if not a recommendation of a specific unit--are welcome. If you recommend a
specific unit, we'd love to know what features lead you to recommend it.

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CSRE: 130V CS Generator

[Alchemysa]

From: Robert Toborek rtobo...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: CSRE: 130V CS Generator


Hi Mike,

...  That's my five cents worth of thoughts. Again, thank you,  
Mike for making this available. I'l looking forward to this new  
project.


Cheers!

Robert



I wouldn't hold your breath Robert. I'm sorry to say it but we've  
heard all this before. If you cut through all the waffle you'll find  
Mike is making extravagant claims based on virtually no credible  
evidence whatsover. The simple process that Mike promises seems to be  
far more complicated that anything already available, and may only  
achieve a minor increase in ionic content, which is of arguable  
benefit anyway.  Do yourself a favor and concentrate on making or  
buying a generator using simple and proven techniques that everyone  
else on this list can attest to.


This may seem harsh, but new members come here for information... not  
to be led up the garden path.


David
(Australia)


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Re: CSRE: 130V CS Generator

[David AuBuchon]

There is definitely a great deal to be explored in this area I think.  But
I think a number of variations in setups can accomplish it.  The quart I
was brewing reached 110uS.  I got bored and stopped.  I see no theoretical
limit to the amount of silver ions we can put into solution.  The batch was
clear with a slight amber (not yellow) tint.

David

On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 3:22 AM, Alchemysa da...@alchemysa.com.au wrote:



 From: Robert Toborek rtobo...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: CSRE: 130V CS Generator


 Hi Mike,

 ...  That's my five cents worth of thoughts. Again, thank you, Mike
 for making this available. I'l looking forward to this new project.

 Cheers!

 Robert



 I wouldn't hold your breath Robert. I'm sorry to say it but we've heard
 all this before. If you cut through all the waffle you'll find Mike is
 making extravagant claims based on virtually no credible evidence
 whatsover. The simple process that Mike promises seems to be far more
 complicated that anything already available, and may only achieve a minor
 increase in ionic content, which is of arguable benefit anyway.  Do
 yourself a favor and concentrate on making or buying a generator using
 simple and proven techniques that everyone else on this list can attest to.

 This may seem harsh, but new members come here for information... not to
 be led up the garden path.

 David
 (Australia)


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Re: CSRE: 130V CS Generator

[Malcolm]

Please, then; do not take us down the road to the dump!
Over-generalized criticism with no work or evidence presented to back it
up simply trades on the efforts of those who are working to understand,
but presents NO worthwhile evidence one way or another.
Your claims are utterly unfounded except in your own mind and your post.
They are no more than slurs as you present them. So back them up with
specifics!  Produce some work of your own.
Malcolm

On Sun, 2012-02-26 at 21:52 +1030, Alchemysa wrote:
 
 
  From: Robert Toborek rtobo...@gmail.com
  Subject: Re: CSRE: 130V CS Generator
 
 
  Hi Mike,
 
  ...  That's my five cents worth of thoughts. Again, thank you,  
  Mike for making this available. I'l looking forward to this new  
  project.
 
  Cheers!
 
  Robert
 
 
 I wouldn't hold your breath Robert. I'm sorry to say it but we've  
 heard all this before. If you cut through all the waffle you'll find  
 Mike is making extravagant claims based on virtually no credible  
 evidence whatsover. The simple process that Mike promises seems to be  
 far more complicated that anything already available, and may only  
 achieve a minor increase in ionic content, which is of arguable  
 benefit anyway.  Do yourself a favor and concentrate on making or  
 buying a generator using simple and proven techniques that everyone  
 else on this list can attest to.
 
 This may seem harsh, but new members come here for information... not  
 to be led up the garden path.
 
 David
 (Australia)
 
 
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Re: CSRE: 130V CS Generator [GishPuppy]

[Bruce Anderson]

Hi Mike:
Yes I would like to see a schematic and parts list, to see if I can 
build it and afford it.  Social Security doesn't leave any room for 
expensive

gadgets.
Best wishes:
Bruce A.


On 2/22/2012 6:50 PM, Mike Monett wrote:

Bruce Andersonbruce...@btes.tv  wrote:

To all who responded..Many Thanks.

To Mike Monett.Hey I am also obsolete at 74, but, this gen. works
for me and is easy to build.  I thanked you for it then and I thank you
for it now.

Hi Bruce, It's nice to hear from you again. I'm glad you had good success
with my design. It's nice to know that I can be of help.

Do you think you might be interested in trying the SilverCell process?
After you finally learn how to get a regular cs generator working, this one
is so easy it will knock your socks off!

Also, I just hit 70, so I am catching up to you!


To the one that sent me the the URLBless You.

Thanks,

Mike


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Re: CSRE: 130V CS Generator [GishPuppy] [GishPuppy]

[Mike Monett]

Bruce Anderson bande65...@btes.tv wrote:

Hi Mike:
Yes I would like to see a schematic and parts list, to see if I can 
build it and afford it.  Social Security doesn't leave any room for 
expensive
gadgets.
Best wishes:
Bruce A.

That's great! My main concern was to make it simple and inexpensive enough
so a single mom could afford to make and run it. This means no complex
electronics, no stirrer, no automatic polarity reversal, and the Salt Test
eliminates the need for a COM-100 unless you want one. A $2 Harbor Freight
dmm would be nice, but what single mom would have the time to read the
instructions with hungry kids pulling at her skirt?

Fortunately, I found a trick to monitor the brewing process. When the
silver ions reach the cathode, they plate out as silver metal. This forms
tiny whiskers at the bottom of the U-channel that correspond to the ion
concentration. When they reach about 1/8, simply swap the polarity and
continue brewing. They will disappear from the new anode and appear on the
new cathode. Again, the length corresponds to the silver ion concentration.

When they have left the original electrode and reach about 1/8 inch on the
new cathode, terminate the brew and pour the cs into a PETE bottle. I like
Dasani Remineralized bottles that have been flushed with dw.

When you follow this simple procedure, the cs will consistently measure
between 35uS and 37uS, and the Salt Test shows the dispersion starting
instantly and blocking objects behind the glass when it is complete. The
Salt Test is only moderately accurate, but the SilverCell process gives
such a high ion concentration that it doesn't matter. It is overwhelmingly
above the 20uS minimum that is required to deal with the most virulent
pathogens, such as Herpes Simplex and Herpes Zoster, so an ordinary cold or
flu doesn't stand a chance.

This high ion concentration means you can use sublingual absorption with
good results. This eliminates any possiblilty of killing friendly fauna in
the intestines, and totally eliminates any possibility of Argyria, since
you spit the cs out at the end of 12 minutes. The other advantage is it
kills the bacteria that cause dental cavities and gum disease, so you don't
need to visit the dentist so often.

So the process is simple, inexpensive, easy to operate, non-critical,
self-timing, and produces the highest silver ion concentration of all the
conventional cs generators anywhere. Also, you only need about 50ml instead
of the 8oz glass that many people take, so you don't need to make 5 gallon
batches and try to find something to store it in that won't contaminate the
brew. This is a major problem, since the silver ions will combine with
almost anything that leaches from the plastic or glass.

The contamination problem is the only remaining issue that I'm not happy
with, but I think I may have stumbled on a solution and will try it this
weekend.

There is a bit more information on my web site at

http://www.silvercentral.org/

If I can get the contamination problem solved, I will be able to post the
assembly and operating instructions. I think you will find it well within
your budget, and very easy to build.

More soon

Mike M.


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Re: CSRE: 130V CS Generator [GishPuppy] [GishPuppy]

[Robert Toborek]

Hi Mike,

I'm new to the group and new to the whole concept. I've been watching some
of your posts over the past few days, and all I can say is that I can't
wait to see the complete documentation on the SilverCell!

I just hope not to confuse it with some of the older information, that you
have deemed outdated yourself.

Thank you!

Robert

On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Mike Monett
mailarchive@gishpuppy.comwrote:

 Bruce Anderson bande65...@btes.tv wrote:
 
 Hi Mike:
 Yes I would like to see a schematic and parts list, to see if I can
 build it and afford it.  Social Security doesn't leave any room for
 expensive
 gadgets.
 Best wishes:
 Bruce A.

 That's great! My main concern was to make it simple and inexpensive enough
 so a single mom could afford to make and run it. This means no complex
 electronics, no stirrer, no automatic polarity reversal, and the Salt Test
 eliminates the need for a COM-100 unless you want one. A $2 Harbor Freight
 dmm would be nice, but what single mom would have the time to read the
 instructions with hungry kids pulling at her skirt?

 Fortunately, I found a trick to monitor the brewing process. When the
 silver ions reach the cathode, they plate out as silver metal. This forms
 tiny whiskers at the bottom of the U-channel that correspond to the ion
 concentration. When they reach about 1/8, simply swap the polarity and
 continue brewing. They will disappear from the new anode and appear on the
 new cathode. Again, the length corresponds to the silver ion concentration.

 When they have left the original electrode and reach about 1/8 inch on the
 new cathode, terminate the brew and pour the cs into a PETE bottle. I like
 Dasani Remineralized bottles that have been flushed with dw.

 When you follow this simple procedure, the cs will consistently measure
 between 35uS and 37uS, and the Salt Test shows the dispersion starting
 instantly and blocking objects behind the glass when it is complete. The
 Salt Test is only moderately accurate, but the SilverCell process gives
 such a high ion concentration that it doesn't matter. It is overwhelmingly
 above the 20uS minimum that is required to deal with the most virulent
 pathogens, such as Herpes Simplex and Herpes Zoster, so an ordinary cold or
 flu doesn't stand a chance.

 This high ion concentration means you can use sublingual absorption with
 good results. This eliminates any possiblilty of killing friendly fauna in
 the intestines, and totally eliminates any possibility of Argyria, since
 you spit the cs out at the end of 12 minutes. The other advantage is it
 kills the bacteria that cause dental cavities and gum disease, so you don't
 need to visit the dentist so often.

 So the process is simple, inexpensive, easy to operate, non-critical,
 self-timing, and produces the highest silver ion concentration of all the
 conventional cs generators anywhere. Also, you only need about 50ml instead
 of the 8oz glass that many people take, so you don't need to make 5 gallon
 batches and try to find something to store it in that won't contaminate the
 brew. This is a major problem, since the silver ions will combine with
 almost anything that leaches from the plastic or glass.

 The contamination problem is the only remaining issue that I'm not happy
 with, but I think I may have stumbled on a solution and will try it this
 weekend.

 There is a bit more information on my web site at

 http://www.silvercentral.org/

 If I can get the contamination problem solved, I will be able to post the
 assembly and operating instructions. I think you will find it well within
 your budget, and very easy to build.

 More soon

 Mike M.


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Re: CSRE: 130V CS Generator

[Mike Monett]

Robert Toborek rtobo...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Mike,

I'm new to the group and new to the whole concept. I've been watching some
of your posts over the past few days, and all I can say is that I can't
wait to see the complete documentation on the SilverCell!

I just hope not to confuse it with some of the older information, that you
have deemed outdated yourself.

Thank you!

Robert

Hi Robert,

Thanks for the note. The entire set of assembly and operating instructions
will be aimed at newcomers, with plenty of pictures to illustrate the
details. 

Each page of documentation will have a section that contains just the
information needed for that step, so newcomers don't get overwhelmed with
too many complex details. The second section will be for oldtimers who
might be interested in the theory with detailed equations, related
information, and long descriptions of the interactions and
interrelationship with other important topics in cs.

At the moment, I am torn between setting up two separate forums for the
SilverCell process, or keeping everything in the same forum. I was thinking
that one forum devoted to newcomers might make it easier for them to ask
questions, with a separate forum for the oldtimers who might like to
discuss some of the more complex details. 

This way, the beginners would not be overwhelmed by the oldtimer
discussions, and the oldtimers would not have to put up with answering the
same basic questions over and over and over again. (This would show a flaw
in the documentation, which I would try to correct in the documentation.
But who in the world reads the instructions??)

I tried something similar with two of my Yahoo forums. I immediately ran
into severe problems. Sooner or later, a discussion that belongs in one
forum will spill over to the other forum, and I found there was no way to
prevent or avoid this. And it greatly complicates things for everyone,
since they have to keep track of both forums.

On the other hand, there have been many complaints from members of the
SilverList who would prefer that the discussions remain on the topics that
they are interested in, which is of course, impossible since everyone has
different interests. So you cannot please everyone at the same time.

I guess one compromise might be to tag a subject according to beginner or
advanced, so those who are not interested can ignore the topics they don't
want to waste time on. But even that turns out to be impossible, since
threads have a beautiful habit of morphing into completely different topics
that may contain important and valuable information for everyone.

So the best thing I can think of is to continue in the same vein as the
SilverList, with all the threads merged in the same forum.

Does this make sense to you? Or if anyone can offer any suggestion that
might help make it easy for newcomers and oldtimers to coexist, i sure
would like to hear from you.

Thanks,

Mike M.


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Re: CSRE: 130V CS Generator

[Robert Toborek]

Hi Mike,

Thank for your quick answer! I would imagine one forum with some complexity
scale to the topics would be okay. Single forum may encourage some
knowledgeable oldtimers to contribute and help in answering the basic
newbie questions without overwhelming any single person. Some people learn
faster than others and, at one point, would need to jump the
forum advancement BARRIER. And let's face it, most newbies, like myself,
would probably join both forums anyway.

I've seen it done before, where people of all experience levels contribute,
teach, and correct one another; argue sometimes, but those arguments
usually lead to elimination of potential misconceptions and all is well at
the end.

That's my five cents worth of thoughts. Again, thank you, Mike for making
this available. I'l looking forward to this new project.

Cheers!

Robert

On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Mike Monett
mailarchive@gishpuppy.comwrote:

 Robert Toborek rtobo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Mike,
 
 I'm new to the group and new to the whole concept. I've been watching some
 of your posts over the past few days, and all I can say is that I can't
 wait to see the complete documentation on the SilverCell!
 
 I just hope not to confuse it with some of the older information, that you
 have deemed outdated yourself.
 
 Thank you!
 
 Robert

 Hi Robert,

 Thanks for the note. The entire set of assembly and operating instructions
 will be aimed at newcomers, with plenty of pictures to illustrate the
 details.

 Each page of documentation will have a section that contains just the
 information needed for that step, so newcomers don't get overwhelmed with
 too many complex details. The second section will be for oldtimers who
 might be interested in the theory with detailed equations, related
 information, and long descriptions of the interactions and
 interrelationship with other important topics in cs.

 At the moment, I am torn between setting up two separate forums for the
 SilverCell process, or keeping everything in the same forum. I was thinking
 that one forum devoted to newcomers might make it easier for them to ask
 questions, with a separate forum for the oldtimers who might like to
 discuss some of the more complex details.

 This way, the beginners would not be overwhelmed by the oldtimer
 discussions, and the oldtimers would not have to put up with answering the
 same basic questions over and over and over again. (This would show a flaw
 in the documentation, which I would try to correct in the documentation.
 But who in the world reads the instructions??)

 I tried something similar with two of my Yahoo forums. I immediately ran
 into severe problems. Sooner or later, a discussion that belongs in one
 forum will spill over to the other forum, and I found there was no way to
 prevent or avoid this. And it greatly complicates things for everyone,
 since they have to keep track of both forums.

 On the other hand, there have been many complaints from members of the
 SilverList who would prefer that the discussions remain on the topics that
 they are interested in, which is of course, impossible since everyone has
 different interests. So you cannot please everyone at the same time.

 I guess one compromise might be to tag a subject according to beginner or
 advanced, so those who are not interested can ignore the topics they don't
 want to waste time on. But even that turns out to be impossible, since
 threads have a beautiful habit of morphing into completely different topics
 that may contain important and valuable information for everyone.

 So the best thing I can think of is to continue in the same vein as the
 SilverList, with all the threads merged in the same forum.

 Does this make sense to you? Or if anyone can offer any suggestion that
 might help make it easy for newcomers and oldtimers to coexist, i sure
 would like to hear from you.

 Thanks,

 Mike M.


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Re: CSRE: 130V CS Generator

[Mike Monett]

Robert Toborek rtobo...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Mike,

Thank for your quick answer! I would imagine one forum with some complexity
scale to the topics would be okay. Single forum may encourage some
knowledgeable oldtimers to contribute and help in answering the basic
newbie questions without overwhelming any single person. 

That is a very astute answer. I think the complexity issue can be addressed
by learning who are the members of the forum. The oldtimers will quickly
become well known by their ability to answer the way a newcomer needs it to
be expressed.

I find the same issue when I am trying to understand some particularly
difficult issue in electronics, or a troubling circuit analysis in LTspice.
I can read the same descriptions that everyone gives, for example in
google, and it just doesn't sink in. But I can find something written by an
obscure author who just happens to word things in just a way that finally
unlocks the knots and now everything makes sense. I'm sure the same thing
will happen in the SilverCell forum. We need everyone we can find to
understand the SilverCell process and explain it to others. This will take
time, but this is something we have plenty of.

Some people learn
faster than others and, at one point, would need to jump the
forum advancement BARRIER. And let's face it, most newbies, like myself,
would probably join both forums anyway.

LOL! That is the best answer I have seen. Why split the forums when the
people that I need to reach the most will join both? 

Thanks. That is the answer I needed.

I've seen it done before, where people of all experience levels contribute,
teach, and correct one another; argue sometimes, but those arguments
usually lead to elimination of potential misconceptions and all is well at
the end.

A lot of the arguments that occurred in cs were because no one understood
the process. I have solved that problem, and I think the things that still
remain are the most important. 

How do the silver ions act in the immune system to counter pathogens, and
what can we do to assist the process? Other questions abound about the
entire relation of pathogens to humans. What can we do to interfere with
the goal of the pathogen and deflect or destroy it, eliminate it from our
life path, and prevent it from entering in the first place?

Let's face the issue. You have a pathogen that if you allow it, will cause
you great harm or kill you. 

This does not lend itself to diplomacy or negotiation. There is only one
correct response, and that is utter, complete destruction and total
obliteration of the pathogen. In many cases, silver ions are invaluable
depending on the threat. In other cases, copper ions may be the best answer.
My designs incorporate both. But are there other answers we should be
looking for? If so, how do we find them?

That's my five cents worth of thoughts. Again, thank you, Mike for making
this available. I'l looking forward to this new project.

Thank you. Your comments are extremely well thought out, and I look forward
to working with you in the new SilverCell forum.

Cheers!

Robert

Thanks,

Mike M.


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Re: CSRE: 130V CS Generator

[Mike Monett]

  Mike Monett mailarchive@gishpuppy.com wrote:

  [...]

   Let's face  the issue. You have a pathogen that if  you  allow it,
   will cause you great harm or kill you.

   This does  not lend itself to diplomacy or  negotiation.  There is
   only one correct response, and that is utter, complete destruction
   and total obliteration of the pathogen. In many cases, silver ions
   are invaluable  depending  on the threat. In  other  cases, copper
   ions may be the best answer.

   My designs incorporate both. But are there other answers we should
   be looking for? If so, how do we find them?

  To give  an  example,  silver   and   copper  ions  are  fairly well
  understood in  the  literature,  and  they  are  extremely effective
  against pathogens.

  But what about other metals, such as zinc? It is  readily available,
  performs exceptionally well in electrolysis, and should be deadly to
  pathogens.

  Like copper,  the chloride is very soluble (4320  g/L  (25C)), where
  silver chloride  has very limited solubility (ppb or sub-ppb  in the
  absence of ammonia.)

  Where silver  has  a  problem with  sulfur  making  insoluble silver
  tarnish (Ag2S),  copper  has a problem with  oxygen,  making  CuO or
  Cu2O. These form contamination products when you try to use  them in
  electrolysis, and they destroy the process.

  But zinc  doesn't  seem to be bothered by either. Just  look  at any
  carbon-zinc battery. The outside is pure zinc. It never seems  to be
  bothered by  unwanted oxides or sulfides. The only  problem  is when
  the electrolyte breaks through the shell, then everything  gets real
  messy. But we don't have to deal with that.

  When you  put  zinc  in electrolysis, it  behaves  beautifully  - it
  immediately migrates to the cathode, where it plates out.  There are
  no hydroxide  problems  to deal with,  and  no  unexpected responses
  anywhere. It just goes and does its thing.

  Is this the metal we need to explore?

  So many questions. So little time...

  Thanks,

  Mike


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Re: CSRE: 130V CS Generator

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

Is this the same system as Ode's Silver Puppy Mike?  dee


On 22 Feb 2012, at 02:06, Mike Monett wrote:

 asif nathekar
 Tue, 21 Feb 2012 14:40:14 -0800
 
 For those who asked.
 
 http://silvercentral.org/systems/130vdc.htm
 
  OMG! That is so obsolete it is not even funny.
 
  I'm Mike,  the author. I just happened to drop in  and  noticed this
  post.
 
  That was  written many years ago. I never intended it  to  appear in
  today's threads since the data is so old.
 
  There is a much better way of doing things. It turns out there  is a
  definite threshold in current density. If you stay below this level,
  which I call the Nernst Threshold, there will be no silver hydroxide
  produced at the anode, no matter how long you run the brew.
 
  This means  you  can run the brew much longer  than  before,  and it
  won't turn  yellow.   You   can   get   a   much  higher  silver ion
  concentration than  conventional  brwing methods,  and  there  is no
  AgOH, and no Tyndall.
 
  The trick  is to use 12 ga silver in a U-shape, with  at  least 1/2
  between the legs and preferably 5/8.
 
  I favor a 400ml borosilicate beaker with a coroplast lid to hold the
  electrodes. They should be 1.5 inches apart, centered in the beaker.
 
  I prefer  a TL431 regulator driving a high  voltage  NPN transistor.
  The diagram is very simple and is in the datasheet.
 
  For iontosphoresis, I prefer resistive stabilization as shown in the
  130VDC file  since semiconductors usually fail shorted,  for example
  due to  ESD events, but resistors usually fail  open.  This protects
  you against a short circuit applying high current to your flesh.
 
  Run at  a  current  density   of   about  275uA/sq.in.  You  need to
  desulfurize the  electrodes  by   connecting  both  to  the negative
  terminal of  your  supply, and use a strip of  aluminum  or titanium
  foil for  the  anode. Apply current for no more than  60  seconds to
  avoid releasing  aluminum  ions   into   solution,  which  will form
  aluminum hydroxide at the cathode.
 
  When the  electrodes  are clean and  free  of  sulfur contamination,
  start the brew. Wait until tiny whiskers appear at the bottom of the
  cathode. This point may be reached in 12 to 17 hours or so,  but the
  timing is not critical like it is in a 3 nines. When they  are about
  1/8 long, swap the polarity.
 
  Check to see if there is any tyndall in a completely dark  room with
  your eyes dark-adjusted. There should be none.
 
  Wait for  the whiskers to disappear and reappear at  the  new anode.
  When they  are about 1/8 long, terminate the brew and  pour  the cs
  into your PETE storage container. I prefer a new Dasani  bottle that
  has been drained and flushed.
 
  I call  this  the  SilverCell process, and  will  provide  much more
  information on the http://silvercentral.org site very soon,  as soon
  as I finish killing the mold spores that have plagued me for  over a
  decade.
 
  Check the  ion concentration with a COM-100. You should see  35uS to
  37uS. It  may  drop to around 32uS or 33uS after 48  hours  and stay
  there. If it drops more than that, there is still some contamination
  on the electrodes. 
 
  The metallic  taste that people often mention is due  to  the sulfur
  contamination. It is the same thing that turns cs purple if  you get
  a bit  of  saliva in the solution or give some to your  cat.  If you
  eliminate the  sulfur contamination, the  metallic  taste disappears
  and the cs will not turn purple.
 
  Check the  ion concentration with the Salt Test  using  pure canning
  salt. You  should see a very strong dispersion appear  instantly and
  grow so it completely obscures objects behind the glass.
 
  I use  12 minutes sublingaul absorption, then spit the  cs  out. You
  should see a definite silver chloride dispersion in the solution.
 
  You can compare the dispersions of the original cs and  the solution
  that has  been in the mouth for 12 minutes. The  sublingual solution
  will be  a bit darker, but the concentration will be  very  close to
  the original dispersion. I estimate about 10% less.
 
  A quick  calculation shows that less than 20 parts  per  billion was
  absorbed into the blood stream. This is far below the  amount needed
  to kill  viruses  and  bacteria, but it is  all  that  is  needed to
  prevent flus and colds.
 
  This says  the immune system must somehow be involved  in  using the
  silver ions,  which  means we are limited by  the  same  things that
  limit the immune system. The cs cannot help for deep infections such
  as the  roots of a tooth, or in joints, or for  pathogens  that have
  developed techniques  to hide from the immune system  like  Lyme, or
  for viral  infections   that   have   already   had  time  to become
  established in body cells.
 
  This says  we need to keep taking the SilverCell cs  regularly  as a
  preventative to keep pathogens from establishing a foothold.
 
  As far  as  deep tooth 

Re: CSRE: 130V CS Generator

[Mike Monett]

  Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org wrote:

  Is this the same system as Ode's Silver Puppy Mike?  dee

  No, it is completely different. I bought a SilverPuppy to see  if it
  was possible to convert it to the SilverCell process. Unfortunately,
  it would  require  a complete redesign and a new pcb,  and  the same
  problem exists for the SilverGen. It would cost more to convert them
  than to simply make a new SilverCell.

  I am completing the assembly and build instructions so  everyone can
  make their  own  SilverCell.  The major cost  is  the  12  ga silver
  electrodes. That  may  come  to  about  $25  not  including  tax and
  shipping.

  The 400ml Griffen Low Profile Bomex borosilicate beakers  are around
  $4.50, but  you might be able to snag two from a  local  high school
  for free.  The design uses a single 9V battery, but it  doesn't have
  to be  brand  new. A used one from a toy, or fire  alarm  will still
  have plenty of juice to make many brews.

  It is  nice to have a small dmm, such as a Harbor Freight for  $2 or
  $3, but it is not essential. There are some small bits  of hardware,
  such as  a 9V battery clip and alligator leads that can  be obtained
  on eBay  for  a  few dollars. You will need to  find  a  resistor of
  approximately 20k  to  30k, and find someone who can  solder  it for
  you. I will give a list of suggestions on how to solve that problem.

  The coroplast  lid can be from an old real estate sign,  or  you can
  simply go  to a sign shop and explain what you are  doing,  and they
  will probably  give you all you need for free. You  can  borrow your
  children's hot glue gun, and it only takes a few sticks. You need to
  find the smallest diameter straw that you can. I believe the  ones I
  use are  0.140  in diameter, and are much smaller  than  the straws
  from McDonalds.

  So altogether,  you might be able to put a  SilverCell  together for
  $40 or  so,  depending on how good you are  at  scrounging.  But one
  thing to  keep  in mind - the sublingual  absorption  has  some real
  benefits. It  will kill the bacteria that cause tooth decay,  so you
  won't need  to see the Dentist as often. Each visit used to  cost me
  over $300,  but I haven't needed any visits for years now.  The ions
  also kill the bacteria that cause gum disease, so that  problem goes
  away as well.

  So the SilverCell can easily pay for itself many times over.

  When? Soon 

  Thanks,

  Mike


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Re: CSRE: 130V CS Generator

[Bruce Anderson]

To all who responded..Many Thanks.

To Mike Monett.Hey I am also obsolete at 74, but, this gen. works 
for me and is easy to build.  I thanked you for it then and I thank you 
for it now.


To the one that sent me the the URLBless You.

On 2/21/2012 9:06 PM, Mike Monett wrote:

 asif nathekar
 Tue, 21 Feb 2012 14:40:14 -0800

 For those who asked.

 http://silvercentral.org/systems/130vdc.htm

   OMG! That is so obsolete it is not even funny.

   I'm Mike,  the author. I just happened to drop in  and  noticed this
   post.

   That was  written many years ago. I never intended it  to  appear in
   today's threads since the data is so old.

   There is a much better way of doing things. It turns out there  is a
   definite threshold in current density. If you stay below this level,
   which I call the Nernst Threshold, there will be no silver hydroxide
   produced at the anode, no matter how long you run the brew.

825 - Release Date: 02/22/12



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Re: CSRE: 130V CS Generator [GishPuppy]

[Mike Monett]

Bruce Anderson bruce...@btes.tv wrote:

To all who responded..Many Thanks.

To Mike Monett.Hey I am also obsolete at 74, but, this gen. works 
for me and is easy to build.  I thanked you for it then and I thank you 
for it now.

Hi Bruce, It's nice to hear from you again. I'm glad you had good success
with my design. It's nice to know that I can be of help.

Do you think you might be interested in trying the SilverCell process?
After you finally learn how to get a regular cs generator working, this one
is so easy it will knock your socks off!

Also, I just hit 70, so I am catching up to you!

To the one that sent me the the URLBless You.

Thanks,

Mike


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CS130volt CS generator

[Bruce Anderson]

Hi, Mike;
Years ago I Think I sent you plans for this generator.  Of course, at
74, my memory may be wrong.
I have since lost the plans.  Do you, by any chance, have a copy that
you could share with me?
TIA;
Bruce Anderson



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CS130V CS Generator

[asif nathekar]

For those who asked.

http://silvercentral.org/systems/130vdc.htm


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RE: CS130volt CS generator

[Steve]

Bruce,

I'm not Mike, but here is a schematic for one that outputs a constant
current set by the pot.  The transformer can be any small one with two
primaries, designed for 120/240 volt operation, and just ignore the
secondary.  You don't really need the transformer, but I recommend it for
safety to isolate your generator from your power.  You can buy the parts at
www.Jameco.com .  

Steve Young

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Subject: CS130volt CS generator

Hi, Mike;
Years ago I Think I sent you plans for this generator.  Of course, at
74, my memory may be wrong.
I have since lost the plans.  Do you, by any chance, have a copy that
you could share with me?
TIA;
Bruce Anderson



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CSRE: 130V CS Generator

[Mike Monett]

   asif nathekar
   Tue, 21 Feb 2012 14:40:14 -0800

   For those who asked.

   http://silvercentral.org/systems/130vdc.htm

  OMG! That is so obsolete it is not even funny.

  I'm Mike,  the author. I just happened to drop in  and  noticed this
  post.

  That was  written many years ago. I never intended it  to  appear in
  today's threads since the data is so old.

  There is a much better way of doing things. It turns out there  is a
  definite threshold in current density. If you stay below this level,
  which I call the Nernst Threshold, there will be no silver hydroxide
  produced at the anode, no matter how long you run the brew.

  This means  you  can run the brew much longer  than  before,  and it
  won't turn  yellow.   You   can   get   a   much  higher  silver ion
  concentration than  conventional  brwing methods,  and  there  is no
  AgOH, and no Tyndall.

  The trick  is to use 12 ga silver in a U-shape, with  at  least 1/2
  between the legs and preferably 5/8.

  I favor a 400ml borosilicate beaker with a coroplast lid to hold the
  electrodes. They should be 1.5 inches apart, centered in the beaker.

  I prefer  a TL431 regulator driving a high  voltage  NPN transistor.
  The diagram is very simple and is in the datasheet.

  For iontosphoresis, I prefer resistive stabilization as shown in the
  130VDC file  since semiconductors usually fail shorted,  for example
  due to  ESD events, but resistors usually fail  open.  This protects
  you against a short circuit applying high current to your flesh.

  Run at  a  current  density   of   about  275uA/sq.in.  You  need to
  desulfurize the  electrodes  by   connecting  both  to  the negative
  terminal of  your  supply, and use a strip of  aluminum  or titanium
  foil for  the  anode. Apply current for no more than  60  seconds to
  avoid releasing  aluminum  ions   into   solution,  which  will form
  aluminum hydroxide at the cathode.

  When the  electrodes  are clean and  free  of  sulfur contamination,
  start the brew. Wait until tiny whiskers appear at the bottom of the
  cathode. This point may be reached in 12 to 17 hours or so,  but the
  timing is not critical like it is in a 3 nines. When they  are about
  1/8 long, swap the polarity.

  Check to see if there is any tyndall in a completely dark  room with
  your eyes dark-adjusted. There should be none.

  Wait for  the whiskers to disappear and reappear at  the  new anode.
  When they  are about 1/8 long, terminate the brew and  pour  the cs
  into your PETE storage container. I prefer a new Dasani  bottle that
  has been drained and flushed.

  I call  this  the  SilverCell process, and  will  provide  much more
  information on the http://silvercentral.org site very soon,  as soon
  as I finish killing the mold spores that have plagued me for  over a
  decade.

  Check the  ion concentration with a COM-100. You should see  35uS to
  37uS. It  may  drop to around 32uS or 33uS after 48  hours  and stay
  there. If it drops more than that, there is still some contamination
  on the electrodes. 

  The metallic  taste that people often mention is due  to  the sulfur
  contamination. It is the same thing that turns cs purple if  you get
  a bit  of  saliva in the solution or give some to your  cat.  If you
  eliminate the  sulfur contamination, the  metallic  taste disappears
  and the cs will not turn purple.

  Check the  ion concentration with the Salt Test  using  pure canning
  salt. You  should see a very strong dispersion appear  instantly and
  grow so it completely obscures objects behind the glass.

  I use  12 minutes sublingaul absorption, then spit the  cs  out. You
  should see a definite silver chloride dispersion in the solution.

  You can compare the dispersions of the original cs and  the solution
  that has  been in the mouth for 12 minutes. The  sublingual solution
  will be  a bit darker, but the concentration will be  very  close to
  the original dispersion. I estimate about 10% less.

  A quick  calculation shows that less than 20 parts  per  billion was
  absorbed into the blood stream. This is far below the  amount needed
  to kill  viruses  and  bacteria, but it is  all  that  is  needed to
  prevent flus and colds.

  This says  the immune system must somehow be involved  in  using the
  silver ions,  which  means we are limited by  the  same  things that
  limit the immune system. The cs cannot help for deep infections such
  as the  roots of a tooth, or in joints, or for  pathogens  that have
  developed techniques  to hide from the immune system  like  Lyme, or
  for viral  infections   that   have   already   had  time  to become
  established in body cells.

  This says  we need to keep taking the SilverCell cs  regularly  as a
  preventative to keep pathogens from establishing a foothold.

  As far  as  deep tooth infections, copper iontophoresis  may  be the
  best answer.  This  means applying a small current  so  fresh copper
  electrodes 

CSMaking a Current Controlled CS Generator (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC]

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE

To:   cs

Subject: Making a CS generator

 

 


Subject: CSBrewing CS

To all  (especially new members)

You can make a Controlled Current Generator with and Wall  DC power supply using

a Current Regulating Central Diode they come in various currents 610-1N5297 
from Mouser Electronics is for 1 Mill amp

You put this in line with power supply with a volt meter you can measure 
voltage (higher as Silver is further apart and lower as you move silver

closer together). It adjust voltage to maintain  mill amp rating.

You can use even a low voltage power supply, it will just take longer.

I have a   9 volt power supply that puts out 9 volts at 800 mill amps, at 1 
mill amp it puts out close to 23 volts.

So if you read the voltage at no load with a multi meter (I mill amp is close 
to no load).

Once you have a batch you can seed the next batch to save time. 

Note you can stir batch with a 4 to 7 watt night light,

Plug in night light (turn on) in an extension cord and put light against side 
near bottom of

Container (1 QT to 1 Gallon). I have a rotating magnetic stirrer, jar sits on 
stirrer and but a roller bearing in

A piece of plastic tubing. Base has a gear motor with a magnet which turns the 
bearing in the jar. I make a gallon at a time. 

  Bob
Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
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CSRe: sunny cs generator info

[Clayton Family]

Hi, welcome. My favorite site when I was new was silvermedicine.org 

and there is still much really good info at fugitt.com/cs

I use a home made generator and batteries, but if I were going to buy one I 
would buy the silverpuppy.

I use a hanna COM 100 meter to test the purity of the water before I start, and 
I bought and tested many different brands of distilled water before I found the 
one that is reliably pure for my area.

The consensus here seems to be that electrically isolated silver produces a mix 
of colloidal and ionic silver, mostly ionic, and that it works the best, and is 
the lowest cost. As you have seen, there is alot of advertising claims made 
that conflict. But an ion is the smallest possible size of any element, so the 
arguments about particle size are somewhat ridiculous.

Have fun reading!

Kathryn

On Dec 6, 2009, at 6:43 AM, Sunwaterclear - Sunny wrote:

 Hi folks, I'm Sunny and I'm new to this list.   I've been taking colloidal 
 silver bought in Wholefoods, which comes from a company called Genesis Today, 
 for a while, just spraying it into my mouth as I originally got it for my gum 
 problems.  Now I'm seeing the potential for a whole lot more...
  
 We've been thinking about buying a colloidal silver generator and I've gotten 
 really confused with all the conflicting information around.I'm reading 
 material about how ppm isn't important but particle surface area is, about 
 the differen

Re: CSRe: sunny cs generator info

[Dan Nave]

The SilverPuppy is a fine unit for individuals or a family, but if you
want to make more volume so as to give to friends or sell, etc, you
will soon be very frustrated at the smaller volumes you are making.
You should consider a unit that makes larger volumes.

See, for instance:

http://www.silvergen.com/informat.htm

Beware of buying a unit that is just batteries, a resistor, and some
electrodes, unless it is priced appropriately.  This kind of system
probably wouldn't be suitable for making CS for sale...

Dan



On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 7:56 AM, Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote:
 Hi, welcome. My favorite site when I was new was silvermedicine.org
 and there is still much really good info at fugitt.com/cs
 I use a home made generator and batteries, but if I were going to buy one I
 would buy the silverpuppy.
 I use a hanna COM 100 meter to test the purity of the water before I start,
 and I bought and tested many different brands of distilled water before I
 found the one that is reliably pure for my area.
 The consensus here seems to be that electrically isolated silver produces a
 mix of colloidal and ionic silver, mostly ionic, and that it works the best,
 and is the lowest cost. As you have seen, there is alot of advertising
 claims made that conflict. But an ion is the smallest possible size of any
 element, so the arguments about particle size are somewhat ridiculous.
 Have fun reading!
 Kathryn
 On Dec 6, 2009, at 6:43 AM, Sunwaterclear - Sunny wrote:

 Hi folks, I'm Sunny and I'm new to this list.   I've been taking colloidal
 silver bought in Wholefoods, which comes from a company called Genesis
 Today, for a while, just spraying it into my mouth as I originally got it
 for my gum problems.  Now I'm seeing the potential for a whole lot more...

 We've been thinking about buying a colloidal silver generator and I've
 gotten really confused with all the conflicting information around.    I'm
 reading material about how ppm isn't important but particle surface area is,
 about the differen



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Re: CSRe: sunny cs generator info

[Sunwaterclear - Sunny]

Hey Dan and The Clayton Family,  Thank you for responding to my plea and for 
your kind sharing of information.

We've just set up a wellness site [purchased the domain name!] trying to find 
something with wellness in it.   The web world is an interesting metaphor for 
what's going on today.  Some organization or groups of people have bought up 
virtually every great site name with wellness in it, and used them as directory 
sites with no passion or caring about wellness at all. 

I said to my husband it's as if we went into the National Forest and cut ALL 
the deadwood in our area, and then sold it to people for profit. 

It reminds me of the whole pharma situation, where big congloms and others have 
become the arbiters of our healthcare... unless of course

Like many of us here on this list, we are determined and dedicated to and 
passionate about finding alternative healthcare that is right for us. 
Whether you use MMS or turmeric or green drinks or CS or combinations of that 
and all the amazing supplements out there, when you seek to take your own 
healthcare into your hands, you become empowered and you free yourself... and 
like that we carve a path for others to find their own freedom path 
to non-allopathic, wellness promoting rather than sympton curing, health 
management.

I see that this list touches on many different areas of wellness and I LOVE 
it... so glad I found it... as a result of my pursuit of silver truth!

big smiles
sunny and pierre
 
A peek into our world.. 

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happening? Where are we going? WHAT has to happen for us to evolve and emerge? 






From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, December 6, 2009 10:00:53 AM
Subject: Re: CSRe: sunny cs generator info

The SilverPuppy is a fine unit for individuals or a family, but if you
want to make more volume so as to give to friends or sell, etc, you
will soon be very frustrated at the smaller volumes you are making.
You should consider a unit that makes larger volumes.

See, for instance:

http://www.silvergen.com/informat.htm

Beware of buying a unit that is just batteries, a resistor, and some
electrodes, unless it is priced appropriately.  This kind of system
probably wouldn't be suitable for making CS for sale...

Dan



On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 7:56 AM, Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote:
 Hi, welcome. My favorite site when I was new was silvermedicine.org
 and there is still much really good info at fugitt.com/cs
 I use a home made generator and batteries, but if I were going to buy one I
 would buy the silverpuppy.
 I use a hanna COM 100 meter to test the purity of the water before I start,
 and I bought and tested many different brands of distilled water before I
 found the one that is reliably pure for my area.
 The consensus here seems to be that electrically isolated silver produces a
 mix of colloidal and ionic silver, mostly ionic, and that it works the best,
 and is the lowest cost. As you have seen, there is alot of advertising
 claims made that conflict. But an ion is the smallest possible size of any
 element, so the arguments about particle size are somewhat ridiculous.
 Have fun reading!
 Kathryn
 On Dec 6, 2009, at 6:43 AM, Sunwaterclear - Sunny wrote:

 Hi folks, I'm Sunny and I'm new to this list.   I've been taking colloidal
 silver bought in Wholefoods, which comes from a company called Genesis
 Today, for a while, just spraying it into my mouth as I originally got it
 for my gum problems.  Now I'm seeing the potential for a whole lot more...

 We've been thinking about buying a colloidal silver generator and I've
 gotten really confused with all the conflicting information around.    I'm
 reading material about how ppm isn't important but particle surface area is,
 about the differen



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Re: CSRe: sunny cs generator info

[Sunwaterclear - Sunny]

Distilled Water

So, Kathryn, you're saying that you tested a lot of distilled water for your 
area... that's interesting. Did you buy different brands?I was thinking 
that if I buy distilled water at Walmart or Ingles that the same brand name 
would all be consistent. Is there a difference? Do different areas have 
different types of distilled water under a big brand name?

We are up for spending about $200 on a good heavy duty producer of CS.  We see 
it as an investment. And how amazing to be able to give away good samples of a 
product without having to spend the earth.   This allows us as a new business 
to do what most businesses want to do... make generous gestures and allow 
people to prove for themselves that things work.

Wellness Clubs

We're planning to create local wellness clubs, where women get together and 
discuss, with facilitation, how they can be more healthier at grassroots 
starting with very basic adjustments.  Of course being a women's group we can 
include all kinds of topics that women love to get together and discuss from 
weight loss [which is all about vanity and appearance to most, but is really 
about HEALTH] to remembering and documenting old wives memories and family held 
homespun cures

We live in the South in a rural location where people aren't rich and biscuits 
and gravy and heavy duty fried chicken  are popular local food.   This is also 
however a place where people know how to GROW and it's also a place where the 
women have control over family food mostly and where people have to prepare 
their own food] 

We want to introduce food ideas for slowly adding more raw, healthier, low 
cost, alternatives and then ease in the idea of supplements and materials that 
we like and that aren't going to bust the bank.  Perhaps even expanding into 
using group power to purchase organic goods in bulk... who knows.. but it feels 
right..

I think everyone is seeking wellness and that many many more people are turning 
to alternative methods, and that 'many more' is increasing exponentially.  

We are on a financial edge right now, renting and living on savings as we 
evolve our message and businesses, and for us staying well is paramount.  

A friend of ours who lives on social security had her widow benefits 
stopped from GM, no more dental, no more prescriptions, no more nothing..so 
she's been forced to find alternative ways... like using apple cider vinegar in 
a glass of water for reflux rather than Prilosec at $20 or using CS instead of 
paying $100 plus for antiboitics.  

Antibiotics and Flu!
Another thing I've noticed is that loads of people we know are getting 
antibiotics for flu.  Flu is viral, antibiotics don't cure flu do they? I sense 
and also pray that there are more doctors emerging like my friend at the VA 
hospital, who are combining allopathic medicine with alternatives that work 
better in certain cases.    She used MMS to cure a staff infection that nothing 
else could.    

Archives?
Finallydoes this list have an archive?   I got the impression it's not web 
based, just email.. so, as I don't know what's been discussed before, please 
forgive me if I'm bringing up topics that have already been addressed over the 
time you've all been around... 

More silver generator recommendations please...

thank you all again and in anticipation of more personal recommendations for 
specific silver generators and periphery necessities - water, testers, 
containers, etc..

with love and blessings
sunny
 
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From: Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, December 6, 2009 8:56:07 AM
Subject: CSRe: sunny cs generator info

Hi, welcome. My favorite site when I was new was silvermedicine.org  

and there is still much really good info at fugitt.com/cs

I use a home made generator and batteries, but if I were going to buy one I 
would buy the silverpuppy.

I use a hanna COM 100 meter to test the purity of the water before I start, and 
I bought and tested many different brands of distilled water before I found the 
one that is reliably pure for my area.

The consensus here seems to be that electrically isolated silver produces a mix 
of colloidal and ionic silver, mostly ionic, and that it works the best, and is 
the lowest cost. As you have seen, there is alot of advertising claims made 
that conflict. But an ion is the smallest possible size of any element, so the 
arguments about particle size are somewhat ridiculous.

Have fun reading!

Kathryn


On Dec 6, 2009, at 6:43 AM, Sunwaterclear - Sunny wrote:

Hi folks, I'm Sunny and I'm new to this list.   I've been taking colloidal 
silver bought

Re: CSRe: sunny cs generator info

[Clayton Family]

Yes, I bought a bottle of each brand I could find, maybe 6 or so, and only 1 
was good enough to use for cs making. It depends on the water they use to start 
with, and then the process can vary also. The brand I ended up with gets water 
from the river that is processed by the city, then steam distilled. The brands 
that start out with well water (which is very hard here) all ended up with too 
many salts or something even after the steam distilling.

best wishes,  Kathryn

On Dec 6, 2009, at 11:28 AM, Sunwaterclear - Sunny wrote:

 Distilled Water
  
 So, Kathryn, you're saying that you tested a lot of distilled water for your 
 area... that's interesting. Did you buy different brands?I was thinking 
 that if I buy distilled water at Walmart or Ingles that the same brand name 
 would all be consistent. Is there a difference? Do different areas have 
 different types of distilled water under a big brand name?
  
 We are up for spending about $200 on a good heavy duty producer of CS.  We 
 see it as an investment. And how amazing to be able to give away good samples 
 of a product without having to spend the earth.   This allows us as a new 
 business to do what most businesses want to do... make generous gestures and 
 allow people to prove for themselves that things work.
  
 Wellness Clubs
  
 We're planning to

Re: CSLooking for CS generator commercial

[Ode Coyote]

  Trem sells the SG7 Pro at
 www.silvergen.com

5 gallon batches.

Ode



At 12:45 PM 11/16/2009 -0600, you wrote:

Hi Silver-list Members,
I'm looking for a CS generator commercial size(100 Lts per day or more).
Please if anybody knows where to get it let me know.

Regards,
James Paul.



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RE: CS CS generator--9 volt battery ????? (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC]

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE

Subject: CSBrewing CS

To all  (especially new members)
You can make a Controlled Current Generator with and Wall  DC power supply
using
a Current Regulating Central Diode they come in various currents 610-1N5297
from Mouser Electronics is for 1 Mill amp
You put this in line with power supply with a volt meter you can measure
voltage (higher as Silver is further apart and lower as you move silver
closer together). It adjust voltage to maintain  mill amp rating.
 
  Bob
You could buy parts you need but you would have to know what exactly the
parts are.
Then you would have to hard wire the items, he uses a circuit board.
You could use just a 9 volt battery to battery connector and then to a
couple pieces of silver
With no light. Above is a controlled current CS generator where you can
increase current for increase
In amount of silver in water. Or just increase current for faster brewing of
CS.
When you take a Volt/Ohm meter to measure voltage on a DC wall plug in you
are measuring
Voltage at a no load condition but if you are using a 1 mill amp controller
this is very
Close to no load condition. Example a 12 volt 400 mill amp power supply puts
out 12 volts
At a 400 mill amp load. At 1 mill amp load it could put out anywhere between
16 and 22 volts.
The interesting thing is when measuring the voltage and using a current
limiter you can move 
The silver around closer and further apart and watch the voltage change to
maintain the mill amp
Rating of the current limiter.

Bob














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From: Deborah Gerard [mailto:devorah...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 9:23 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS CS generator--9 volt battery ? (UNCLASSIFIED)

Can a person buy these parts from like Radio Shack?




From: Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC robert.j.medw...@us.army.mil
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Cc: zzekel...@aol.com
Sent: Fri, November 13, 2009 7:12:25 AM
Subject: RE: CS CS generator--9 volt battery ? (UNCLASSIFIED)

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE

It was 29.99 at http://www.atlasnova.com/CSGenerator.htm
Breaks into 3 parts battery, 2 silver wires and battery clip with a small
circuit board.
You also have a laser pointer to see the CS.
I made some using this you just have to keep swishing the wires as it tryes
to bridge the close wires.
You could just get a battery where ever you go.
On site you can see picture.
Bob

-Original Message-
From: zzekel...@aol.com [mailto:zzekel...@aol.com]
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 8:11 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS CS generator--9 volt battery ?

In a message dated 11/13/2009 7:03:06 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
robert.j.medw...@us.army.mil writes:

I bought that new CS generator that works on a single 9 volt battery,
love
it for traveling.


Bob, I must have missed this one How do you make it ===or where can you buy
it---??? Lois


http://www.atlasnova.com/CSGenerator1.htm
http://www.atlasnova.com/CSGenerator.htm
blockedhttp://www.atlasnova.com/CSGenerator.htm
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Title: Message


From: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com on behalf of Medwith, Robert 
[robert.j.medw...@us.army.mil]Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 12:24 
PMTo: 'cs'Subject: CSBrewing CS
To all 
(especially new members)
You can make a 
Controlled Current Generator with and Wall DC power supply 
using
a Current Regulating 
Central Diode they come in various currents 610-1N5297 from Mouser Electronics 
is for 1 Mill amp
You put this in line 
with power supply with a volt meter you can measure voltage (higher as Silver is 
further apart and lower as you move silver
closer together). It 
adjust voltage to matain mill amp rating.

 
Bob


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CSLooking for CS generator commercial

[Dr. James Paul]

Hi Silver-list Members,
I'm looking for a CS generator commercial size(100 Lts per day or more).
Please if anybody knows where to get it let me know.

Regards,
James Paul.

Re: CSLooking for CS generator commercial

[bottlecaps]

These guys have to best CS generators on the market. http://www.silvergen.com/
This is the SG7 Pro High Speed / High Volume generator.  It can produce 5 
gallon batches in a very short time.  Its speed and volume capability combined 
with small particle CS makes this the generator of choice for the volume user 
or resellers of ionic/colloidal silver.  It can also produce larger volumes of 
ionic/colloidal silver. 
Cindy
  - Original Message - 
  From: Dr. James Paul 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 10:45 AM
  Subject: CSLooking for CS generator commercial


  Hi Silver-list Members,
  I'm looking for a CS generator commercial size(100 Lts per day or more).
  Please if anybody knows where to get it let me know.

  Regards,
  James Paul.

Re: CS CS generator--9 volt battery ?????

[ZZekelink]

 
In a message dated 11/13/2009 7:03:06 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
robert.j.medw...@us.army.mil writes:

I bought  that new CS generator that works on a single 9 volt battery, love
it for  traveling.



Bob, I must have missed this one How do you make it  ===or where can you 
buy it---??? Lois

RE: CS CS generator--9 volt battery ????? (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC]

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
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It was 29.99 at http://www.atlasnova.com/CSGenerator.htm
Breaks into 3 parts battery, 2 silver wires and battery clip with a small
circuit board.
You also have a laser pointer to see the CS.
I made some using this you just have to keep swishing the wires as it tryes
to bridge the close wires.
You could just get a battery where ever you go.
On site you can see picture.
Bob

-Original Message-
From: zzekel...@aol.com [mailto:zzekel...@aol.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 8:11 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS CS generator--9 volt battery ?

In a message dated 11/13/2009 7:03:06 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
robert.j.medw...@us.army.mil writes:

I bought that new CS generator that works on a single 9 volt
battery, love
it for traveling.


Bob, I must have missed this one How do you make it ===or where can you buy
it---??? Lois


http://www.atlasnova.com/CSGenerator1.htm
http://www.atlasnova.com/CSGenerator.htm
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Re: CS CS generator--9 volt battery ????? (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Deborah Gerard]

Can a person buy these parts from like Radio Shack?





From: Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC robert.j.medw...@us.army.mil
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Cc: zzekel...@aol.com
Sent: Fri, November 13, 2009 7:12:25 AM
Subject: RE: CS CS generator--9 volt battery ? (UNCLASSIFIED)

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
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It was 29.99 at http://www.atlasnova.com/CSGenerator.htm
Breaks into 3 parts battery, 2 silver wires and battery clip with a small
circuit board.
You also have a laser pointer to see the CS.
I made some using this you just have to keep swishing the wires as it tryes
to bridge the close wires.
You could just get a battery where ever you go.
On site you can see picture.
Bob

-Original Message-
From: zzekel...@aol.com [mailto:zzekel...@aol.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 8:11 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS CS generator--9 volt battery ?

In a message dated 11/13/2009 7:03:06 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
robert.j.medw...@us.army.mil writes:

    I bought that new CS generator that works on a single 9 volt
battery, love
    it for traveling.
    

Bob, I must have missed this one How do you make it ===or where can you buy
it---??? Lois


http://www.atlasnova.com/CSGenerator1.htm
http://www.atlasnova.com/CSGenerator.htm
Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE


  

CS generator (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC]

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE

Bought one of those new CS generators with a LED light on it powered by a
single 9 volt battery.
Bought it for when I travel (as to Mexico).
It works really sweet and simple, you just have to swish the wires as it
wants to grow fuzzes between
The wires and light up the light brighter which is a normal sign that CS is
getting stronger.
It will not replace other ones I have but it is nice and simple and
portable.

Bob
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Re: CSNeed a CS generator

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

This is it.  dee

On 8 Sep 2009, at 03:42, Leslie wrote:


I would like to know too. Leslie
- Original Message -
From: Sam L.
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 12:59 PM
Subject: Re: CSNeed a CS generator

Hi Ode

You talking about this one

http://www.silverpuppy.com/PocketPup.html

can be found   here

http://www.silverpuppy.com/page1b.html


Sam   L.

CSRe: CS Need a CS generator

[Duncan Crow]

Sandy; this CS generator costs only whatever your silver electrode costs, about 
$25 CAD. It is capable of contunous operation and it makes about 2 quarts per 
minute:

http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/colloidal_silver.html

all good,

Duncan


Hello Everyone...

I cannot afford one of the CS generators off the internet and was wondering if 
any of you know of a really reasonably priced [good] one that I can make or 
buy? I have a link to the site which shows how to make them but you need 
several things I'm not sure about.

Do any of you make and sell them? Is there any way you would sell me one? I'd 
greatly appreciate it.

Best regards...

Sandy from Texas


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Re: CSRe: CS Need a CS generator

[Arnold Beland]

You stand a very good chance of killing yourself by making/using this Death 
Trap.  The lowest price complete Colloidal Silver Generator that I know of 
is the following:


http://www.atlasnova.com/CSGenerator.htm

It was designed by a retired NASA Design Engineer.

Arnold
- Original Message - 
From: Duncan Crow duncanc...@yahoo.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 8:50 AM
Subject: CSRe: CS  Need a CS generator


Sandy; this CS generator costs only whatever your silver electrode costs, 
about $25 CAD. It is capable of contunous operation and it makes about 2 
quarts per minute:


http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/colloidal_silver.html

all good,

Duncan


Hello Everyone...

I cannot afford one of the CS generators off the internet and was 
wondering if any of you know of a really reasonably priced [good] one 
that I can make or buy? I have a link to the site which shows how to make 
them but you need several things I'm not sure about.


Do any of you make and sell them? Is there any way you would sell me one? 
I'd greatly appreciate it.


Best regards...

Sandy from Texas


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Re: CSRe: CS Need a CS generator

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

Can you substantiate the claim you make on this web link, i.e. that  
the silver you advocate is better than 90% ionic?  Just curious.  dee


On 8 Sep 2009, at 16:50, Duncan Crow wrote:

Sandy; this CS generator costs only whatever your silver electrode  
costs, about $25 CAD. It is capable of contunous operation and it  
makes about 2 quarts per minute:


http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/colloidal_silver.html

all good,

Duncan

Re: CSRe: CS Need a CS generator

[Sandy]

Thanks, Duncan...I greatly appreciate it. I will surely look into this.

Sandy

--- On Tue, 9/8/09, Duncan Crow duncanc...@yahoo.com wrote:

 From: Duncan Crow duncanc...@yahoo.com
 Subject: CSRe: CS  Need a CS generator
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 10:50 AM
 Sandy; this CS generator costs only
 whatever your silver electrode costs, about $25 CAD. It is
 capable of contunous operation and it makes about 2 quarts
 per minute:
 
 http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/colloidal_silver.html
 
 all good,
 
 Duncan
 
 
 Hello Everyone...
 
 I cannot afford one of the CS generators off the internet
 and was wondering if any of you know of a really
 reasonably priced [good] one that I can make or buy? I have
 a link to the site which shows how to make them but you need
 several things I'm not sure about.
 
 Do any of you make and sell them? Is there any way you
 would sell me one? I'd greatly appreciate it.
 
 Best regards...
 
 Sandy from Texas
 
 
      
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Re: CSNeed a CS generator

[Leslie]

I would like to know too. Leslie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sam L.
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 12:59 PM
  Subject: Re: CSNeed a CS generator


  Hi Ode


  You talking about this one


  http://www.silverpuppy.com/PocketPup.html


  can be found here


  http://www.silverpuppy.com/page1b.html




  Sam L.


  On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 3:13 AM, Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net 
wrote:



 Automatic operation..detects PPM like a meter and turns itself off , 
current controlled, electronic polarity reversing...satisfaction or your 
money back.

$75, free shipping.

 Can't tell you where 'cause I make them.
But somebody will.

Ode


At 11:11 AM 9/5/2009 -0700, you wrote:

  Hi,
  I'm looking for one, too, even if it's used and would be better than 
nothing.
  Thanks,
  June

  mailto:jawm1...@yahoo.comjawm1...@yahoo.com


  --- On Sat, 9/5/09, Sandy Hollis hollis302...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: Sandy Hollis hollis302...@yahoo.com
Subject: CSNeed a CS generator
To: CS silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 11:54 AM


Hello Everyone...

I cannot afford one of the CS generators off the internet and was 
wondering if any of you know of a really reasonably priced [good] one that 
I can make or buy? I have a link to the site which shows how to make them 
but you need several things I'm not sure about.

Do any of you make and sell them? Is there any way you would sell me 
one? I'd greatly appreciate it.

Best regards...

Sandy from Texas

Live and let live...




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Re: CSNeed a CS generator

[Sam L.]

ccsilver also a good place at
http://www.ccsilver.com/silver/superfines.html#four

for small quantities of pure silver rod or strips. I would trust them before
a jewelry
store.

Sam L.

On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 10:48 PM, Melly Bag tita_...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I buy my 99.99% silver from Myron Thoback, NYC. Tel. no. 212-398-8300, as
 for Heman (pronouned Heeman).  I like buying from them coz they are fairly
 honest and ship immediately.  They explained to me that the fine 99.99% is
 the purest one can get. Also said, they never add anything to it.

 Melly

Re: CSNeed a CS generator

[Ode Coyote]

  Automatic operation..detects PPM like a meter and turns itself off , 
current controlled, electronic polarity reversing...satisfaction or your 
money back.


$75, free shipping.

 Can't tell you where 'cause I make them.
But somebody will.

Ode

At 11:11 AM 9/5/2009 -0700, you wrote:

Hi,
I'm looking for one, too, even if it's used and would be better than nothing.
Thanks,
June
mailto:jawm1...@yahoo.comjawm1...@yahoo.com

--- On Sat, 9/5/09, Sandy Hollis hollis302...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: Sandy Hollis hollis302...@yahoo.com
Subject: CSNeed a CS generator
To: CS silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 11:54 AM


Hello Everyone...

I cannot afford one of the CS generators off the internet and was 
wondering if any of you know of a really reasonably priced [good] one 
that I can make or buy? I have a link to the site which shows how to make 
them but you need several things I'm not sure about.


Do any of you make and sell them? Is there any way you would sell me one? 
I'd greatly appreciate it.


Best regards...

Sandy from Texas

Live and let live...



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Re: CSNeed a CS generator

[ZZekelink]

I have a nice little book---Colloidal Silver  Today--the All- Natural 
Wide-Spectrum Germ Killer  by Warren Jefferson, {{  was $3.95 / copy}}  Has 
good explanations, lots of information, Good  directions on how to build your 
own generator. {{even says you can use 1,   9 volt battery  get superior EIS 
(CS).  }}  On the back cover  even a comment by, our esteemed,  Ode 
Coyote...  Lois

Re: CSNeed a CS generator

[cking001]

Here it is: http://tinyurl.com/m7nekh

Chuck
What do you say to a one-legged hitchhiker?
 Hop in!


On 9/6/2009 7:27:07 AM, zzekel...@aol.com wrote:
 I have a nice little book---
 Colloidal Silver Today--the All- Natural Wide-Spectrum Germ Killer by
 Warren Jefferson, {{ was $3.95 / copy}} Has good explanations, lots of
 information, Good directions on how to build your own generator. {{even
 says you can use 1, 9 volt battery  get superior EIS (CS). }} On the back
 cover even a comment by, our esteemed, Ode Coyote...Lois
 
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Re: CSNeed a CS generator//Thanks Chuck

[ZZekelink]

 
I wanted to get a couple more copies to pass to  friends---Lois
 
In a message dated 9/6/2009 7:40:13 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
cking...@nycap.rr.com writes:

http://tinyurl.com/m7nekh


 

Re: CSNeed a CS generator

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

Yes wink SilverPuppy do them as per the post below.  dee

On 6 Sep 2009, at 10:13, Ode Coyote wrote:




 Automatic operation..detects PPM like a meter and turns itself  
off , current controlled, electronic polarity  
reversing...satisfaction or your money back.


$75, free shipping.

Can't tell you where 'cause I make them.
But somebody will.

Ode

At 11:11 AM 9/5/2009 -0700, you wrote:

Hi,
I'm looking for one, too, even if it's used and would be better  
than nothing.

Thanks,
June

Re: CSNeed a CS generator

[Sam L.]

Hi Ode
You talking about this one

http://www.silverpuppy.com/PocketPup.html

can be found here

http://www.silverpuppy.com/page1b.html


Sam L.

On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 3:13 AM, Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net wrote:



  Automatic operation..detects PPM like a meter and turns itself off ,
 current controlled, electronic polarity reversing...satisfaction or your
 money back.

 $75, free shipping.

  Can't tell you where 'cause I make them.
 But somebody will.

 Ode

 At 11:11 AM 9/5/2009 -0700, you wrote:

 Hi,
 I'm looking for one, too, even if it's used and would be better than
 nothing.
 Thanks,
 June
 mailto:jawm1...@yahoo.comjawm1...@yahoo.com

 --- On Sat, 9/5/09, Sandy Hollis hollis302...@yahoo.com wrote:


 From: Sandy Hollis hollis302...@yahoo.com
 Subject: CSNeed a CS generator
 To: CS silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 11:54 AM


 Hello Everyone...

 I cannot afford one of the CS generators off the internet and was
 wondering if any of you know of a really reasonably priced [good] one that
 I can make or buy? I have a link to the site which shows how to make them
 but you need several things I'm not sure about.

 Do any of you make and sell them? Is there any way you would sell me one?
 I'd greatly appreciate it.

 Best regards...

 Sandy from Texas

 Live and let live...



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CSNeed a CS generator

[Sandy Hollis]

Hello Everyone...
 
I cannot afford one of the CS generators off the internet and was wondering if 
any of you know of a really reasonably priced [good] one that I can make or 
buy? I have a link to the site which shows how to make them but you need 
several things I'm not sure about.
 
Do any of you make and sell them? Is there any way you would sell me one? I'd 
greatly appreciate it.
 
Best regards...

Sandy from Texas

Live and let live...


  

Re: CSNeed a CS generator

[june]

Hi,
I'm looking for one, too, even if it's used and would be better than nothing.
Thanks,
June
jawm1...@yahoo.com

--- On Sat, 9/5/09, Sandy Hollis hollis302...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: Sandy Hollis hollis302...@yahoo.com
Subject: CSNeed a CS generator
To: CS silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 11:54 AM








Hello Everyone...
 
I cannot afford one of the CS generators off the internet and was wondering if 
any of you know of a really reasonably priced [good] one that I can make or 
buy? I have a link to the site which shows how to make them but you need 
several things I'm not sure about.
 
Do any of you make and sell them? Is there any way you would sell me one? I'd 
greatly appreciate it.
 
Best regards...

Sandy from Texas

Live and let live...



  

Re: CSNeed a CS generator

[Clayton Family]

Well,

I got my silver wire from a jeweler supply, it is 99.9% pure silver,  
the larger diameter the better, then I use 3 9 volt batteries and  
wires with alligator clips. I poked a hole in a margarine tub lid  
about 1.5 to 2 inches apart for the silver wires, which suspends it in  
the water. It is important to use pure distilled water.



atlasnova dot com sells an inexpensive set up, and there are photos on  
the site also.


I did put a current limiter on mine, I think it is a 75 ohm  
potentiometer, dialed down to read less than one amp current when it  
is all going. I also bought a water tester- it is a COM 100 from the  
silver puppy site. That way I can tell both what I am starting with  
with the water reading, and what i end up with afterward. If you don't  
want to invest in one of these, maybe one of the listmembers know of a  
good enogh brand of distilled water brand in your area- in my area  
only one of them is pure enough for long term CS making, in my opinion.


Best WIshes,

Kathryn


On Sep 5, 2009, at 11:54 AM, Sandy Hollis wrote:



Hello Everyone...

I cannot afford one of the CS generators off the internet and was  
wondering if any of you know of a really reasonably priced [good]  
one that I can make or buy? I have a link to the site which shows  
how to make them but you need several things I'm not sure about.


Do any of you make and sell them? Is there any way you would sell me  
one? I'd greatly appreciate it.


Best regards...

Sandy from Texas

Live and let live...

Re: CSNeed a CS generator

[Sandy Hollis]

Thank you, Kathryn...
 
I guess I'll try to save up the money to buy a silver puppy.


 
Best regards...

Sandy

Live and let live...

--- On Sat, 9/5/09, Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote:


From: Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com
Subject: Re: CSNeed a CS generator
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 2:43 PM


Well,


I got my silver wire from a jeweler supply, it is 99.9% pure silver, the larger 
diameter the better, then I use 3 9 volt batteries and wires with alligator 
clips. I poked a hole in a margarine tub lid about 1.5 to 2 inches apart for 
the silver wires, which suspends it in the water. It is important to use pure 
distilled water.




atlasnova dot com sells an inexpensive set up, and there are photos on the site 
also.


I did put a current limiter on mine, I think it is a 75 ohm potentiometer, 
dialed down to read less than one amp current when it is all going. I also 
bought a water tester- it is a COM 100 from the silver puppy site. That way I 
can tell both what I am starting with with the water reading, and what i end up 
with afterward. If you don't want to invest in one of these, maybe one of the 
listmembers know of a good enogh brand of distilled water brand in your area- 
in my area only one of them is pure enough for long term CS making, in my 
opinion.


Best WIshes,


Kathryn





On Sep 5, 2009, at 11:54 AM, Sandy Hollis wrote:







Hello Everyone...
 
I cannot afford one of the CS generators off the internet and was wondering if 
any of you know of a really reasonably priced [good] one that I can make or 
buy? I have a link to the site which shows how to make them but you need 
several things I'm not sure about.
 
Do any of you make and sell them? Is there any way you would sell me one? I'd 
greatly appreciate it.
 
Best regards...

Sandy from Texas

Live and let live...




  

Re: CSNeed a CS generator

[Dan Nave]

look at the explanation on:

http://www.atlasnova.com/CSMakingInfo.htm

All you need is the batteries, 3 alligator clip leads, and a resistor,
a glass, distilled water, and the silver wires...

You don't actually need the voltmeter, but if you have access to
Harbour Freight Co. you can get one for under $5.

If you have questions we can talk you through it.

Dan



On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Sandy Hollishollis302...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Thank you, Kathryn...

 I guess I'll try to save up the money to buy a silver puppy.


 Best regards...

 Sandy

 Live and let live...

 --- On Sat, 9/5/09, Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote:

 From: Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com
 Subject: Re: CSNeed a CS generator
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 2:43 PM

 Well,
 I got my silver wire from a jeweler supply, it is 99.9% pure silver, the
 larger diameter the better, then I use 3 9 volt batteries and wires with
 alligator clips. I poked a hole in a margarine tub lid about 1.5 to 2 inches
 apart for the silver wires, which suspends it in the water. It is important
 to use pure distilled water.

 atlasnova dot com sells an inexpensive set up, and there are photos on the
 site also.
 I did put a current limiter on mine, I think it is a 75 ohm potentiometer,
 dialed down to read less than one amp current when it is all going. I also
 bought a water tester- it is a COM 100 from the silver puppy site. That way
 I can tell both what I am starting with with the water reading, and what i
 end up with afterward. If you don't want to invest in one of these, maybe
 one of the listmembers know of a good enogh brand of distilled water brand
 in your area- in my area only one of them is pure enough for long term CS
 making, in my opinion.
 Best WIshes,
 Kathryn

 On Sep 5, 2009, at 11:54 AM, Sandy Hollis wrote:

 Hello Everyone...

 I cannot afford one of the CS generators off the internet and was wondering
 if any of you know of a really reasonably priced [good] one that I can
 make or buy? I have a link to the site which shows how to make them but you
 need several things I'm not sure about.

 Do any of you make and sell them? Is there any way you would sell me one?
 I'd greatly appreciate it.

 Best regards...

 Sandy from Texas
 Live and let live...





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Re: CSNeed a CS generator

[Sandy Hollis]

Thank you, Dan...
 
I guess I can get the resistor and alligator clips at from radio shack? I 
should be able to get the other things at Wal Mart. I have plenty of jars. I'll 
call around to some jewelry stores and see if I can get the silver wire. There 
is a Habor Freight within reach too so that should not be a problem.
 
Again, Dan thank you for your help and if I have a problem I'll let you know. 

Best regards...

Sandy from Texas

Live and let live...

--- On Sat, 9/5/09, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote:


From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: CSNeed a CS generator
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 3:00 PM


look at the explanation on:

http://www.atlasnova.com/CSMakingInfo.htm

All you need is the batteries, 3 alligator clip leads, and a resistor,
a glass, distilled water, and the silver wires...

You don't actually need the voltmeter, but if you have access to
Harbour Freight Co. you can get one for under $5.

If you have questions we can talk you through it.

Dan



On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Sandy Hollishollis302...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Thank you, Kathryn...

 I guess I'll try to save up the money to buy a silver puppy.


 Best regards...

 Sandy

 Live and let live...

 --- On Sat, 9/5/09, Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote:

 From: Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com
 Subject: Re: CSNeed a CS generator
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 2:43 PM

 Well,
 I got my silver wire from a jeweler supply, it is 99.9% pure silver, the
 larger diameter the better, then I use 3 9 volt batteries and wires with
 alligator clips. I poked a hole in a margarine tub lid about 1.5 to 2 inches
 apart for the silver wires, which suspends it in the water. It is important
 to use pure distilled water.

 atlasnova dot com sells an inexpensive set up, and there are photos on the
 site also.
 I did put a current limiter on mine, I think it is a 75 ohm potentiometer,
 dialed down to read less than one amp current when it is all going. I also
 bought a water tester- it is a COM 100 from the silver puppy site. That way
 I can tell both what I am starting with with the water reading, and what i
 end up with afterward. If you don't want to invest in one of these, maybe
 one of the listmembers know of a good enogh brand of distilled water brand
 in your area- in my area only one of them is pure enough for long term CS
 making, in my opinion.
 Best WIshes,
 Kathryn

 On Sep 5, 2009, at 11:54 AM, Sandy Hollis wrote:

 Hello Everyone...

 I cannot afford one of the CS generators off the internet and was wondering
 if any of you know of a really reasonably priced [good] one that I can
 make or buy? I have a link to the site which shows how to make them but you
 need several things I'm not sure about.

 Do any of you make and sell them? Is there any way you would sell me one?
 I'd greatly appreciate it.

 Best regards...

 Sandy from Texas
 Live and let live...





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RE: CSNeed a CS generator

[Neville Munn]

It's been said before I know, but remember to ensure the silver is minimum 3 
nine pure fine silver, or in other words...99.9% fine silver, *NOT* jewellery 
silver which contains nickel.

 

Can't emphasise that enough in case others out there may be considering making 
a machine.

 

N.
 


Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 18:06:03 -0700
From: hollis302...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: CSNeed a CS generator
To: silver-list@eskimo.com






Thank you, Dan...
 
I guess I can get the resistor and alligator clips at from radio shack? I 
should be able to get the other things at Wal Mart. I have plenty of jars. I'll 
call around to some jewelry stores and see if I can get the silver wire. There 
is a Habor Freight within reach too so that should not be a problem.
 
Again, Dan thank you for your help and if I have a problem I'll let you know. 

Best regards...

Sandy from Texas

Live and let live...

--- On Sat, 9/5/09, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote:


From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: CSNeed a CS generator
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 3:00 PM


look at the explanation on:

http://www.atlasnova.com/CSMakingInfo.htm

All you need is the batteries, 3 alligator clip leads, and a resistor,
a glass, distilled water, and the silver wires...

You don't actually need the voltmeter, but if you have access to
Harbour Freight Co. you can get one for under $5.

If you have questions we can talk you through it.

Dan



On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Sandy Hollishollis302...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Thank you, Kathryn...

 I guess I'll try to save up the money to buy a silver puppy.


 Best regards...

 Sandy

 Live and let live...

 --- On Sat, 9/5/09, Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote:

 From: Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com
 Subject: Re: CSNeed a CS generator
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 2:43 PM

 Well,
 I got my silver wire from a jeweler supply, it is 99.9% pure silver, the
 larger diameter the better, then I use 3 9 volt batteries and wires with
 alligator clips. I poked a hole in a margarine tub lid about 1.5 to 2 inches
 apart for the silver wires, which suspends it in the water. It is important
 to use pure distilled water.

 atlasnova dot com sells an inexpensive set up, and there are photos on the
 site also.
 I did put a current limiter on mine, I think it is a 75 ohm potentiometer,
 dialed down to read less than one amp current when it is all going. I also
 bought a water tester- it is a COM 100 from the silver puppy site. That way
 I can tell both what I am starting with with the water reading, and what i
 end up with afterward. If you don't want to invest in one of these, maybe
 one of the listmembers know of a good enogh brand of distilled water brand
 in your area- in my area only one of them is pure enough for long term CS
 making, in my opinion.
 Best WIshes,
 Kathryn

 On Sep 5, 2009, at 11:54 AM, Sandy Hollis wrote:

 Hello Everyone...

 I cannot afford one of the CS generators off the internet and was wondering
 if any of you know of a really reasonably priced [good] one that I can
 make or buy? I have a link to the site which shows how to make them but you
 need several things I'm not sure about.

 Do any of you make and sell them? Is there any way you would sell me one?
 I'd greatly appreciate it.

 Best regards...

 Sandy from Texas
 Live and let live...





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RE: CSNeed a CS generator

[Dianne France]

I believe it was Arnold that posted a good supplier site for silver wire was:  
http://www.atlasnova.com/SilverWire.htm
 


From: one.red...@hotmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSNeed a CS generator
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 12:04:07 +1030



It's been said before I know, but remember to ensure the silver is minimum 3 
nine pure fine silver, or in other words...99.9% fine silver, *NOT* jewellery 
silver which contains nickel.
 
Can't emphasise that enough in case others out there may be considering making 
a machine.
 
N.
 


Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 18:06:03 -0700
From: hollis302...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: CSNeed a CS generator
To: silver-list@eskimo.com






Thank you, Dan...
 
I guess I can get the resistor and alligator clips at from radio shack? I 
should be able to get the other things at Wal Mart. I have plenty of jars. I'll 
call around to some jewelry stores and see if I can get the silver wire. There 
is a Habor Freight within reach too so that should not be a problem.
 
Again, Dan thank you for your help and if I have a problem I'll let you know. 

Best regards...

Sandy from Texas

Live and let live...

--- On Sat, 9/5/09, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote:


From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: CSNeed a CS generator
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 3:00 PM


look at the explanation on:

http://www.atlasnova.com/CSMakingInfo.htm

All you need is the batteries, 3 alligator clip leads, and a resistor,
a glass, distilled water, and the silver wires...

You don't actually need the voltmeter, but if you have access to
Harbour Freight Co. you can get one for under $5.

If you have questions we can talk you through it.

Dan



On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Sandy Hollishollis302...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Thank you, Kathryn...

 I guess I'll try to save up the money to buy a silver puppy.


 Best regards...

 Sandy

 Live and let live...

 --- On Sat, 9/5/09, Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote:

 From: Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com
 Subject: Re: CSNeed a CS generator
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 2:43 PM

 Well,
 I got my silver wire from a jeweler supply, it is 99.9% pure silver, the
 larger diameter the better, then I use 3 9 volt batteries and wires with
 alligator clips. I poked a hole in a margarine tub lid about 1.5 to 2 inches
 apart for the silver wires, which suspends it in the water. It is important
 to use pure distilled water.

 atlasnova dot com sells an inexpensive set up, and there are photos on the
 site also.
 I did put a current limiter on mine, I think it is a 75 ohm potentiometer,
 dialed down to read less than one amp current when it is all going. I also
 bought a water tester- it is a COM 100 from the silver puppy site. That way
 I can tell both what I am starting with with the water reading, and what i
 end up with afterward. If you don't want to invest in one of these, maybe
 one of the listmembers know of a good enogh brand of distilled water brand
 in your area- in my area only one of them is pure enough for long term CS
 making, in my opinion.
 Best WIshes,
 Kathryn

 On Sep 5, 2009, at 11:54 AM, Sandy Hollis wrote:

 Hello Everyone...

 I cannot afford one of the CS generators off the internet and was wondering
 if any of you know of a really reasonably priced [good] one that I can
 make or buy? I have a link to the site which shows how to make them but you
 need several things I'm not sure about.

 Do any of you make and sell them? Is there any way you would sell me one?
 I'd greatly appreciate it.

 Best regards...

 Sandy from Texas
 Live and let live...





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Re: CSNeed a CS generator

[Dan Nave]

Yes, Radio Shack is good for the alligator clip wires and resistor.
The silver should be at least 99.9% fine.  You can ask the jeweler for
fine silver.
It is more expensive at a jeweler, you can buy quite a bit more on
line if you look around on line.

You can also buy the silver wire at:

http://www.atlasnova.com/SilverWire.htm

or the complete starter kit at:

http://www.atlasnova.com/ColloidalSilverStarterKit.htm

You don't get as much silver wire with the starter kit, but you get
all the other stuff plus a laser pointer.

Or for about twice the price ($75 including shipping) you can buy a
Pocket Puppy generator from Ode which is a pared down Silver Puppy CS
maker, but still pretty nice.  Polarity switching, auto shuttoff, etc.

http://www.silverpuppy.com/PocketPup.html

Dan

On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 8:06 PM, Sandy Hollishollis302...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Thank you, Dan...

 I guess I can get the resistor and alligator clips at from radio shack? I
 should be able to get the other things at Wal Mart. I have plenty of jars.
 I'll call around to some jewelry stores and see if I can get the silver
 wire. There is a Habor Freight within reach too so that should not be a
 problem.

 Again, Dan thank you for your help and if I have a problem I'll let you
 know.
 Best regards...

 Sandy from Texas
 Live and let live...

 --- On Sat, 9/5/09, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: CSNeed a CS generator
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 3:00 PM

 look at the explanation on:

 http://www.atlasnova.com/CSMakingInfo.htm

 All you need is the batteries, 3 alligator clip leads, and a resistor,
 a glass, distilled water, and the silver wires...

 You don't actually need the voltmeter, but if you have access to
 Harbour Freight Co. you can get one for under $5.

 If you have questions we can talk you through it.

 Dan



 On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Sandy Hollishollis302...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Thank you, Kathryn...

 I guess I'll try to save up the money to buy a silver puppy.


 Best regards...

 Sandy

 Live and let live...

 --- On Sat, 9/5/09, Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote:

 From: Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com
 Subject: Re: CSNeed a CS generator
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 2:43 PM

 Well,
 I got my silver wire from a jeweler supply, it is 99.9% pure silver, the
 larger diameter the better, then I use 3 9 volt batteries and wires with
 alligator clips. I poked a hole in a margarine tub lid about 1.5 to 2
 inches
 apart for the silver wires, which suspends it in the water. It is
 important
 to use pure distilled water.

 atlasnova dot com sells an inexpensive set up, and there are photos on the
 site also.
 I did put a current limiter on mine, I think it is a 75 ohm potentiometer,
 dialed down to read less than one amp current when it is all going. I also
 bought a water tester- it is a COM 100 from the silver puppy site. That
 way
 I can tell both what I am starting with with the water reading, and what i
 end up with afterward. If you don't want to invest in one of these, maybe
 one of the listmembers know of a good enogh brand of distilled water brand
 in your area- in my area only one of them is pure enough for long term CS
 making, in my opinion.
 Best WIshes,
 Kathryn

 On Sep 5, 2009, at 11:54 AM, Sandy Hollis wrote:

 Hello Everyone...

 I cannot afford one of the CS generators off the internet and was
 wondering
 if any of you know of a really reasonably priced [good] one that I can
 make or buy? I have a link to the site which shows how to make them but
 you
 need several things I'm not sure about.

 Do any of you make and sell them? Is there any way you would sell me one?
 I'd greatly appreciate it.

 Best regards...

 Sandy from Texas
 Live and let live...





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Re: CSNeed a CS generator

[Sandy Hollis]

Hi Dan...
 
I believe I will go with the starter kit from Atlas Nova...this will at least 
get me started.
 
Thank you for the info and link.


Best regards...

Sandy

Live and let live...

--- On Sat, 9/5/09, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote:


From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: CSNeed a CS generator
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 9:49 PM


Yes, Radio Shack is good for the alligator clip wires and resistor.
The silver should be at least 99.9% fine.  You can ask the jeweler for
fine silver.
It is more expensive at a jeweler, you can buy quite a bit more on
line if you look around on line.

You can also buy the silver wire at:

http://www.atlasnova.com/SilverWire.htm

or the complete starter kit at:

http://www.atlasnova.com/ColloidalSilverStarterKit.htm

You don't get as much silver wire with the starter kit, but you get
all the other stuff plus a laser pointer.

Or for about twice the price ($75 including shipping) you can buy a
Pocket Puppy generator from Ode which is a pared down Silver Puppy CS
maker, but still pretty nice.  Polarity switching, auto shuttoff, etc.

http://www.silverpuppy.com/PocketPup.html

Dan

On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 8:06 PM, Sandy Hollishollis302...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Thank you, Dan...

 I guess I can get the resistor and alligator clips at from radio shack? I
 should be able to get the other things at Wal Mart. I have plenty of jars.
 I'll call around to some jewelry stores and see if I can get the silver
 wire. There is a Habor Freight within reach too so that should not be a
 problem.

 Again, Dan thank you for your help and if I have a problem I'll let you
 know.
 Best regards...

 Sandy from Texas
 Live and let live...

 --- On Sat, 9/5/09, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: CSNeed a CS generator
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 3:00 PM

 look at the explanation on:

 http://www.atlasnova.com/CSMakingInfo.htm

 All you need is the batteries, 3 alligator clip leads, and a resistor,
 a glass, distilled water, and the silver wires...

 You don't actually need the voltmeter, but if you have access to
 Harbour Freight Co. you can get one for under $5.

 If you have questions we can talk you through it.

 Dan



 On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Sandy Hollishollis302...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Thank you, Kathryn...

 I guess I'll try to save up the money to buy a silver puppy.


 Best regards...

 Sandy

 Live and let live...

 --- On Sat, 9/5/09, Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote:

 From: Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com
 Subject: Re: CSNeed a CS generator
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 2:43 PM

 Well,
 I got my silver wire from a jeweler supply, it is 99.9% pure silver, the
 larger diameter the better, then I use 3 9 volt batteries and wires with
 alligator clips. I poked a hole in a margarine tub lid about 1.5 to 2
 inches
 apart for the silver wires, which suspends it in the water. It is
 important
 to use pure distilled water.

 atlasnova dot com sells an inexpensive set up, and there are photos on the
 site also.
 I did put a current limiter on mine, I think it is a 75 ohm potentiometer,
 dialed down to read less than one amp current when it is all going. I also
 bought a water tester- it is a COM 100 from the silver puppy site. That
 way
 I can tell both what I am starting with with the water reading, and what i
 end up with afterward. If you don't want to invest in one of these, maybe
 one of the listmembers know of a good enogh brand of distilled water brand
 in your area- in my area only one of them is pure enough for long term CS
 making, in my opinion.
 Best WIshes,
 Kathryn

 On Sep 5, 2009, at 11:54 AM, Sandy Hollis wrote:

 Hello Everyone...

 I cannot afford one of the CS generators off the internet and was
 wondering
 if any of you know of a really reasonably priced [good] one that I can
 make or buy? I have a link to the site which shows how to make them but
 you
 need several things I'm not sure about.

 Do any of you make and sell them? Is there any way you would sell me one?
 I'd greatly appreciate it.

 Best regards...

 Sandy from Texas
 Live and let live...





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Re: CSNeed a CS generator

[Melly Bag]

I buy my 99.99% silver from Myron Thoback, NYC. Tel. no. 212-398-8300, as for 
Heman (pronouned Heeman).  I like buying from them coz they are fairly honest 
and ship immediately.  They explained to me that the fine 99.99% is the purest 
one can get. Also said, they never add anything to it.

Melly

--- On Sat, 9/5/09, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: CSNeed a CS generator
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 10:49 PM
 Yes, Radio Shack is good for the
 alligator clip wires and resistor.
 The silver should be at least 99.9% fine.  You can ask
 the jeweler for
 fine silver.
 It is more expensive at a jeweler, you can buy quite a bit
 more on
 line if you look around on line.
 
 You can also buy the silver wire at:
 
 http://www.atlasnova.com/SilverWire.htm
 
 or the complete starter kit at:
 
 http://www.atlasnova.com/ColloidalSilverStarterKit.htm
 
 You don't get as much silver wire with the starter kit, but
 you get
 all the other stuff plus a laser pointer.
 
 Or for about twice the price ($75 including shipping) you
 can buy a
 Pocket Puppy generator from Ode which is a pared down
 Silver Puppy CS
 maker, but still pretty nice.  Polarity switching,
 auto shuttoff, etc.
 
 http://www.silverpuppy.com/PocketPup.html
 
 Dan
 
 On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 8:06 PM, Sandy Hollishollis302...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
  Thank you, Dan...
 
  I guess I can get the resistor and alligator clips
 at from radio shack? I
  should be able to get the other things at Wal Mart. I
 have plenty of jars.
  I'll call around to some jewelry stores and see if I
 can get the silver
  wire. There is a Habor Freight within reach too so
 that should not be a
  problem.
 
  Again, Dan thank you for your help and if I have a
 problem I'll let you
  know.
  Best regards...
 
  Sandy from Texas
  Live and let live...
 
  --- On Sat, 9/5/09, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com
  Subject: Re: CSNeed a CS generator
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 3:00 PM
 
  look at the explanation on:
 
  http://www.atlasnova.com/CSMakingInfo.htm
 
  All you need is the batteries, 3 alligator clip leads,
 and a resistor,
  a glass, distilled water, and the silver wires...
 
  You don't actually need the voltmeter, but if you have
 access to
  Harbour Freight Co. you can get one for under $5.
 
  If you have questions we can talk you through it.
 
  Dan
 
 
 
  On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Sandy Hollishollis302...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
  Thank you, Kathryn...
 
  I guess I'll try to save up the money to buy a
 silver puppy.
 
 
  Best regards...
 
  Sandy
 
  Live and let live...
 
  --- On Sat, 9/5/09, Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com
 wrote:
 
  From: Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com
  Subject: Re: CSNeed a CS generator
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 2:43 PM
 
  Well,
  I got my silver wire from a jeweler supply, it is
 99.9% pure silver, the
  larger diameter the better, then I use 3 9 volt
 batteries and wires with
  alligator clips. I poked a hole in a margarine tub
 lid about 1.5 to 2
  inches
  apart for the silver wires, which suspends it in
 the water. It is
  important
  to use pure distilled water.
 
  atlasnova dot com sells an inexpensive set up, and
 there are photos on the
  site also.
  I did put a current limiter on mine, I think it is
 a 75 ohm potentiometer,
  dialed down to read less than one amp current when
 it is all going. I also
  bought a water tester- it is a COM 100 from the
 silver puppy site. That
  way
  I can tell both what I am starting with with the
 water reading, and what i
  end up with afterward. If you don't want to invest
 in one of these, maybe
  one of the listmembers know of a good enogh brand
 of distilled water brand
  in your area- in my area only one of them is pure
 enough for long term CS
  making, in my opinion.
  Best WIshes,
  Kathryn
 
  On Sep 5, 2009, at 11:54 AM, Sandy Hollis wrote:
 
  Hello Everyone...
 
  I cannot afford one of the CS generators off the
 internet and was
  wondering
  if any of you know of a really reasonably priced
 [good] one that I can
  make or buy? I have a link to the site which shows
 how to make them but
  you
  need several things I'm not sure about.
 
  Do any of you make and sell them? Is there any way
 you would sell me one?
  I'd greatly appreciate it.
 
  Best regards...
 
  Sandy from Texas
  Live and let live...
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: CSMaking a CS generator

[Arnold Beland]

The disadvantage of using one of these devices is that you are stuck with a 
fixed current.  You might very well find that it and an is an advantage to be 
able to vary the amount of current according to the surface area of the silver 
wire that you have immersed in water.  You can do this easily by dividing the 
voltage available by the current that you desire and purchase a resistor for 
the resulting value.  Resistors are available at any radio shack for 99¢ for 
five.  For instance, if you did want one milliamp and you had say, 27 volts 
(3-9 volt batteries) then you would divide 27 by 0.001.  The result would be 
27,000.  So you would insert a 27 K resistor in series and you would have a 
limit of one milliamp.  For a discussion of the advantage of using even lower 
values for current vs. surface area, have a look at this link. 

http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=322679
  - Original Message - 
  From: Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC 
  To: cs 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 12:22 PM
  Subject: CSMaking a CS generator


   


  Subject: CSBrewing CS

  To all  (especially new members)

  You can make a Controlled Current Generator with and Wall  DC power supply 
using

  a Current Regulating Central Diode they come in various currents 610-1N5297 
from Mouser Electronics is for 1 Mill amp

  You put this in line with power supply with a volt meter you can measure 
voltage (higher as Silver is further apart and lower as you move silver

  closer together). It adjust voltage to maintain  mill amp rating.

  You can use even a low voltage power supply, it will just take longer.

  I have a   9 volt power supply that puts out 9 volts at 800 mill amps, at 1 
mill amp it puts out close to 23 volts.

  So if you read the voltage at no load with a multi meter (I mill amp is close 
to no load).

  Once you have a batch you can seed the next batch to save time. 

Bob

   

CSMaking a CS generator

[Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC]

 


Subject: CSBrewing CS

To all  (especially new members)

You can make a Controlled Current Generator with and Wall  DC power
supply using

a Current Regulating Central Diode they come in various currents
610-1N5297 from Mouser Electronics is for 1 Mill amp

You put this in line with power supply with a volt meter you can measure
voltage (higher as Silver is further apart and lower as you move silver

closer together). It adjust voltage to maintain  mill amp rating.

You can use even a low voltage power supply, it will just take longer.

I have a   9 volt power supply that puts out 9 volts at 800 mill amps,
at 1 mill amp it puts out close to 23 volts.

So if you read the voltage at no load with a multi meter (I mill amp is
close to no load).

Once you have a batch you can seed the next batch to save time. 

  Bob

 

RE: CSMaking a CS generator

[Evans, Antonio F.]

more please
 

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From: Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC
[mailto:robert.j.medw...@us.army.mil] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 3:22 PM
To: cs
Subject: CSMaking a CS generator



 


Subject: CSBrewing CS

To all  (especially new members)

You can make a Controlled Current Generator with and Wall  DC power
supply using

a Current Regulating Central Diode they come in various currents
610-1N5297 from Mouser Electronics is for 1 Mill amp

You put this in line with power supply with a volt meter you can measure
voltage (higher as Silver is further apart and lower as you move silver

closer together). It adjust voltage to maintain  mill amp rating.

You can use even a low voltage power supply, it will just take longer.

I have a   9 volt power supply that puts out 9 volts at 800 mill amps,
at 1 mill amp it puts out close to 23 volts.

So if you read the voltage at no load with a multi meter (I mill amp is
close to no load).

Once you have a batch you can seed the next batch to save time. 

  Bob

 

Re: CSSimple CS Generator, Sophisticated Controller

[Tony Moody]

Hi Bruce,

That sounds like a good device to have. 

To clear up a spot of confusion here, you say 130adc . Surely not 130 
Amps DC? Could you say what max volts applied and what the current 
(milliamps) flow is please,  and perhaps you could say what the 
immersed area of each silver electrode is please.

Best regards,
Tony Moody

On 5 Nov 2008 at 16:28, Bruce Anderson wrote about :
Subject : Re: CSSimple CS Generator, Sophist

 Greetings Gents;
 I don't understand the need for speed :}  I make an eight and a half 
 liter batch.  I turn it on while using the computer.  Check it when I 
 think about it.  Stop it when it's 20 +  the starting ppm.  Takes 
 between 6 and 8 hours.  Makes clear EIS with a fine tyndle and last me 
 for weeks.  I use a 130adc homemade generator with stirring.  Do I still 
 need speed?? :-)
 Bruce A.
 


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