RE: CSGodzilla

2010-06-29 Thread Scott Adams
Good link thanks!
 
Scott Adams
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From: zzekel...@aol.com [mailto:zzekel...@aol.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 12:19 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSGodzilla



In a message dated 6/28/2010 1:06:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
ptf2...@bellsouth.net writes:


Thanks, Rowena.  How do you use this for a gum infection?
PT

Please excuse me butting in--
PT please check out  this site germkiller
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/microelectricitygermkiller/?v=1t=sear
chch=webpub=groupssec=groupslk=1 sign in  The list owner has a super
archive with instructions for building several different zillas 
testimonies as to their effectiveness. List owner  members are wonderful
about answering questions   offering help... Lois



Re: CSGodzilla

2010-06-28 Thread Bob Banever
Christel,

  You can email V at lig...@theledman.net  He makes and sells the units.  
You can also make your own using the photos at microelectricitygermkiller group 
on Yahoo.  Here'a a link to his site... 
http://photoman.bizland.com/godzilla/index.html  The Power Pulse Meter is the 
Godzilla!  He makes two types I believe.  Good luck!

Bob
  - Original Message - 
  From: cat4...@aol.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 1:45 PM
  Subject: CSGodzilla


  Bob I hope you don't object to a short private request. Don't always get to 
read the posts .
  Would you be so kind and quich=kly tell me where you purchased the godzilla?
  The link that was posted does not show one.
  Thank you kindly
  Christel

  In a message dated 6/25/2010 1:42:58 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
bbane...@earthlink.net writes:
Brickey,

   Don't worry.  Get yourself a baby Godzilla (or make your own) and 
stop the bacterial infection in the root instantly.  This device sends a small 
(3 - 6 volt) DC current thru the tooth and root killing the germs.  Go to 
microelectricitygermkiller group on Yahoo for all the info.  Very easy to use, 
very inexpensive and worth it's weight in gold.  I've use this successfully 
several times.  Good luck.

Bob
  - Original Message - 
  From: brick...@aol.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 9:07 PM
  Subject: CSDental Exam


  After many years with no cavities the Dentist said I needed a root canal 
on my front tooth. I was shocked that  EIS allowed that to happen. I brush 
daily with EIS, H2O2, MSM, Peppermint Oil, and Xylitol. It turned out the tooth 
had a root canal done years ago but it had two roots. The Dentist said that was 
the second time he has seen a front tooth with two roots. The previous Dentist 
in Los Algodones, Mexico did not see the second root. I guess EIS is still 
doing its job preventing tooth problems. My back teeth have four roots.
  Brickey

Re: CSGodzilla

2010-06-28 Thread Rowena
They are too cheap to buy -  just a couple of pieces of wire fixed to a 
6 v battery.

The place to find out about them is

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/microelectricitygermkiller/

There are several different models now, but the original and basic is 
just damp cloth at the end of two pieces of wire, one fixed to the 
negative terminal, the other to the positive, and the part of the body 
you are treating at the other end of the wires so that the current 
passes through, killing germs on the way.


It is not advised to use any higher current than 6v.

R


On 26/06/2010 4:45 AM, cat4...@aol.com wrote:
Bob I hope you don't object to a short private request. Don't always 
get to read the posts .
Would you be so kind and quich=kly tell me where you purchased the 
godzilla?

The link that was posted does not show one.
Thank you kindly
Christel
In a message dated 6/25/2010 1:42:58 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
bbane...@earthlink.net writes:


Brickey,
   Don't worry.  Get yourself a baby Godzilla (or make your
own) and stop the bacterial infection in the root instantly.  This
device sends a small (3 - 6 volt) DC current thru the tooth and
root killing the germs.  Go to microelectricitygermkiller group on
Yahoo for all the info.  Very easy to use, very inexpensive and
worth it's weight in gold.  I've use this successfully several
times.  Good luck.
Bob

- Original Message -
*From:* brick...@aol.com mailto:brick...@aol.com
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Thursday, June 24, 2010 9:07 PM
*Subject:* CSDental Exam

After many years with no cavities the Dentist said I needed a
root canal on my front tooth. I was shocked that  EIS allowed
that to happen. I brush daily with EIS, H2O2, MSM, Peppermint
Oil, and Xylitol. It turned out the tooth had a root canal
done years ago but it had two roots. The Dentist said that was
the second time he has seen a front tooth with two roots. The
previous Dentist in Los Algodones, Mexico did not see the
second root. I guess EIS is still doing its job preventing
tooth problems. My back teeth have four roots.
Brickey



Re: CSGodzilla

2010-06-28 Thread needling around
Thanks, Rowena.  How do you use this for a gum infection?
PT
  - Original Message - 
  From: Rowena 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 4:39 AM
  Subject: Re: CSGodzilla


  They are too cheap to buy -  just a couple of pieces of wire fixed to a 6 v 
battery.  
  The place to find out about them is

  http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/microelectricitygermkiller/

  There are several different models now, but the original and basic is just 
damp cloth at the end of two pieces of wire, one fixed to the negative 
terminal, the other to the positive, and the part of the body you are treating 
at the other end of the wires so that the current passes through, killing germs 
on the way.

  It is not advised to use any higher current than 6v.


  R


  On 26/06/2010 4:45 AM, cat4...@aol.com wrote: 
Bob I hope you don't object to a short private request. Don't always get to 
read the posts .
Would you be so kind and quich=kly tell me where you purchased the godzilla?
The link that was posted does not show one.
Thank you kindly
Christel

In a message dated 6/25/2010 1:42:58 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
bbane...@earthlink.net writes:
  Brickey,

 Don't worry.  Get yourself a baby Godzilla (or make your own) and 
stop the bacterial infection in the root instantly.  This device sends a small 
(3 - 6 volt) DC current thru the tooth and root killing the germs.  Go to 
microelectricitygermkiller group on Yahoo for all the info.  Very easy to use, 
very inexpensive and worth it's weight in gold.  I've use this successfully 
several times.  Good luck.

  Bob
- Original Message - 
From: brick...@aol.com 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 9:07 PM
Subject: CSDental Exam


After many years with no cavities the Dentist said I needed a root 
canal on my front tooth. I was shocked that  EIS allowed that to happen. I 
brush daily with EIS, H2O2, MSM, Peppermint Oil, and Xylitol. It turned out the 
tooth had a root canal done years ago but it had two roots. The Dentist said 
that was the second time he has seen a front tooth with two roots. The previous 
Dentist in Los Algodones, Mexico did not see the second root. I guess EIS is 
still doing its job preventing tooth problems. My back teeth have four roots.
Brickey

Re: CSGodzilla

2010-06-28 Thread ZZekelink
 
In a message dated 6/28/2010 1:06:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
ptf2...@bellsouth.net writes:

Thanks, Rowena.  How do you use this for a gum  infection?
PT



Please excuse me butting  in--
PT please check out  this site _germkiller  sign in_ 
(http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/microelectricitygermkiller/?v=1t=searchch=webpub=groupsse
c=groupslk=1)   The list owner has a super archive with instructions for  
building several different zillas  testimonies as to their effectiveness.  
List owner  members are wonderful about answering questionsoffering 
help... Lois


CSGodzilla

2010-06-25 Thread Cat4461
Bob I hope you don't object to a short private request. Don't always get to 
 read the posts .
Would you be so kind and quich=kly tell me where you purchased the  
godzilla?
The link that was posted does not show one.
Thank you kindly
Christel
 
 
In a message dated 6/25/2010 1:42:58 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
bbane...@earthlink.net writes:

Brickey,
 
   Don't worry.  Get yourself a  baby Godzilla (or make your own) and 
stop the bacterial infection in the root  instantly.  This device sends a 
small (3 - 6 volt) DC current thru the  tooth and root killing the germs.  Go 
to microelectricitygermkiller group  on Yahoo for all the info.  Very easy to 
use, very inexpensive and worth  it's weight in gold.  I've use this 
successfully several times.   Good luck.
 
Bob

- Original Message - 
From:  _brick...@aol.com_ (mailto:brick...@aol.com)  
To: _silver-l...@eskimo.com_ (mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com)  
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 9:07  PM
Subject: CSDental Exam


After many years with no cavities the Dentist said I needed a root  canal 
on my front tooth. I was shocked that  EIS allowed that to  happen. I brush 
daily with EIS, H2O2, MSM, Peppermint Oil, and Xylitol. It  turned out the 
tooth had a root canal done years ago but it had two roots.  The Dentist said 
that was the second time he has seen a front tooth with two  roots. The 
previous Dentist in Los Algodones, Mexico did not see the second  root. I guess 
EIS is still doing its job preventing tooth problems. My  back teeth have 
four roots.
Brickey




CSGodzilla?

2009-02-24 Thread Kehoe

Hi all,

I have been away from the list for some time.  I need to know about the 
Godzilla.  Where can I get one and if I can't how do I make one? 
Apparently, Colloidal silver doesnt work so well for infected teeth.  My 
son is going through a very painful time with major infectons in his jaw. 
The dentist doesn't have a clue.  He has gone through three rounds of 
antibiotics (after giving up on CS) with no permanent success.


Carol K 



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Re: CSGodzilla?

2009-02-24 Thread Sam L.
Hi Carol.
For more info on the Godzilla, you will need to join this group
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/microelectricitygermkiller/

Alot of good info here.

Sam L.

On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 8:15 AM, Kehoe ke...@netwurx.net wrote:

 Hi all,

 I have been away from the list for some time.  I need to know about the
 Godzilla.  Where can I get one and if I can't how do I make one?
 Apparently, Colloidal silver doesnt work so well for infected teeth.  My
 son is going through a very painful time with major infectons in his jaw.
 The dentist doesn't have a clue.  He has gone through three rounds of
 antibiotics (after giving up on CS) with no permanent success.

 Carol K

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Re: CSGodzilla?

2009-02-24 Thread gmetropulo
does he have root canals? How do you prevent bacteria from remultplying 
even if you get the infection done and need to reseal a tooth?



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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 8:15 am
Subject: CSGodzilla?






Hi all, 
 

I have been away from the list for some time.  I need to know about the
Godzilla.  Where can I get one and if I can't how do I make one?
Apparently, Colloidal silver doesnt work so well for infected teeth.  
My
son is going through a very painful time with major infectons in his 
jaw.

The dentist doesn't have a clue.  He has gone through three rounds of
antibiotics (after giving up on CS) with no permanent success. 
 

Carol K  


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CSGodzilla for childs stubborn tooth abcess?

2008-09-12 Thread gmetropulo
Can the Godzilla be used on a child's stubborn tooth abcess? Where can
one be purchased?


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Re: CSGodzilla for childs stubborn tooth abcess?

2008-09-12 Thread Peter Converse

Hi G,

If you go to the Yahoo group Microelectricitygermkiller you can learn how 
to make a simple 6 Volt Godzilla for under $15. If you want something 
premade there is someone on that list who likes to keep a fairly low profile 
who may answer you if you post a request for one.


Blessings,

Peter

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Subject: CSGodzilla for childs stubborn tooth abcess?



Can the Godzilla be used on a child's stubborn tooth abcess? Where can
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Re: CSgodzilla now LED lights Belly buttons and aortas

2008-05-01 Thread Rowena
Thanks for that, Pat.  It was an excellent picture.  I had two friends who died 
of a ruptured aorta; now I know what happened.  I always imagined it would have 
ruptured directly next to the heart.  The abdominal aorta is also bigger than I 
imagined.
Rowena
  Have you heard of abdominal aortic aneurysm?  Here's a diagram showing the 
aorta in the belly button area.

  http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/imagepages/18072.htm

   Pat





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Re: CSgodzilla now LED lights Belly buttons and aortas

2008-05-01 Thread Tony Moody
Me too. But still can't see the light.

On 30 Apr 2008 at 21:08, Michael Zangari wrote about :
Subject : Re: CSgodzilla now LED lights Bell

 I've been contemplating mine for years now it seems.
   
 
 B Magnatta mom.magna...@gmail.com wrote:
   Ok , so now we are contemplating our navels? ... Lol... 
 
 
 And we added a bright idea  to that, ! 
 
 
 Sincerely Barb M. 
 
 
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 Date: 4/30/2008 12:42:01 PM 
 
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Re: CSgodzilla now LED lights Belly buttons and aortas

2008-04-30 Thread Rowena
I don't know that it is, but I accept that it is if that is what people who 
probably know say so.  The bit that said that was in a quote from an article.
I don't know much about abdominal surgery, but they get some nasty surprises 
when they have to open up, I understand.  This is just from surgeon friends 
talking to me.  There are some good atlases of the body on line that would 
demonstrate where things go.  And how far beneath or under the belly button 
might come into the equation of what goes where and how far down the light 
penetrates.  But as for knowing - no, I am ignorant, I just listen and read, 
and mostly accept what sounds correct.
R

  Rowena, how do you know the aorta artery is behind the belly button? When 
they do laser surgery inside the abdomen, often they go through the belly 
button. Wouldn't that interfere with the artery? Thx. Jess


Re: CSgodzilla now LED lights

2008-04-30 Thread Rowena
Um.  Well, I suppose it does before you are born, but what the article 
indicated was that an artery lies behind the belly button, so that shining the 
LED light on it gets to the blood stream easily.  The other place to shine the 
LED for treating the bloodstream (as opposed to various joints and organs) is 
on the wrists.  The person I was in contact with preferred the belly button 
method.
I don't know any more than I have gleaned via the net, but I can pass that on 
to you.
Regards
Rowena

  Rowena,
  You were the one who emailed and said that all of your blood passes through 
the belly button.  
  I have an enhancer and I tried this I could litterly feel the blood moving to 
different parts of the body, mainly the face.
  Question?  What other acupuncture points are just as valuable???
  I have googled just about everything I could think of to get any information 
but not understanding what all of the words are I am having a hard time.

  Help.  This is good to know.
  Mary


Re: CSgodzilla now LED lights Belly buttons and aortas

2008-04-30 Thread faith gagne
The aorta artery is one of the main vavles of your heart, not your belly 
button.  Faith G.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Rowena 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 5:50 AM
  Subject: Re: CSgodzilla now LED lights Belly buttons and aortas


  I don't know that it is, but I accept that it is if that is what people who 
probably know say so.  The bit that said that was in a quote from an article.
  I don't know much about abdominal surgery, but they get some nasty surprises 
when they have to open up, I understand.  This is just from surgeon friends 
talking to me.  There are some good atlases of the body on line that would 
demonstrate where things go.  And how far beneath or under the belly button 
might come into the equation of what goes where and how far down the light 
penetrates.  But as for knowing - no, I am ignorant, I just listen and read, 
and mostly accept what sounds correct.
  R

Rowena, how do you know the aorta artery is behind the belly button? When 
they do laser surgery inside the abdomen, often they go through the belly 
button. Wouldn't that interfere with the artery? Thx. Jess


Re: CSgodzilla now LED lights Belly buttons and aortas

2008-04-30 Thread mborgert






Rowena,
Whatever is behind the belly button, it still feels good to put the enhancer in that spot. I did it yesterday my husband said he could actually see my face getting redder. It does feel good.
Mary
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The aorta artery is one of the mainvavles of your heart, not your belly button. Faith G.



- Original Message - 
From: Rowena 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 5:50 AM
Subject: Re: CSgodzilla now LED lights Belly buttons and aortas

I don't know that it is, but I accept that it is if that is what people who probably know say so. The bit that said that was in a quote from an article.
I don't know much about abdominal surgery, but they get some nasty surprises when they have to open up, I understand. This is just from surgeon friends talking to me. There are some good atlases of the body on line that would demonstrate where things go. And how far beneath or underthe belly button might come into the equation of what goes where and how far down the light penetrates. But as for knowing - no, I am ignorant, I just listen and read, and mostly accept what sounds correct.
R

Rowena, how do you know the aorta artery is behind the belly button? When they do laser surgery inside the abdomen, often they go through the belly button. Wouldn't that interfere with the artery? Thx. Jess








Re: CSgodzilla now LED lights Belly buttons and aortas

2008-04-30 Thread ~ Joanne ~

What is the enhancer if I could ask please and thank you.

Joanne

Re: CSgodzilla now LED lights Belly buttons and aortas

2008-04-30 Thread Pat
Have you heard of abdominal aortic aneurysm?  Here's a diagram showing the 
aorta in the belly button area.

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/imagepages/18072.htm

 Pat


  

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Re: CSgodzilla now LED lights Belly buttons and aortas

2008-04-30 Thread B Magnatta
Ok , so now we are contemplating our navels? ... Lol... 

 

And we added a bright idea  to that, ! 

 

Sincerely Barb M. 

 

 



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Date: 4/30/2008 12:42:01 PM 

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Subject: Re: CSgodzilla now LED lights Belly buttons and aortas 

 

 

 


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Re: CSgodzilla now LED lights Belly buttons and aortas

2008-04-30 Thread faith gagne
I googled it.  My mistake.  Evidently an aorta is a certain type of blood 
vessel found in other parts of the body, not just the heart.  Thanks.  Faith G.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Pat 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 12:41 PM
  Subject: Re: CSgodzilla now LED lights Belly buttons and aortas


  Have you heard of abdominal aortic aneurysm?  Here's a diagram showing the 
aorta in the belly button area.

  http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/imagepages/18072.htm

   Pat





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Re: CSgodzilla now LED lights Belly buttons and aortas

2008-04-30 Thread faith gagne
ps.  I was thinking that more surgeries can now be done through the belly 
button rather than splitting the chest open to replace the aortic valve, which 
is what happened to me a number of years ago.  Faith g.

  - Original Message - 
  From: faith gagne 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 1:17 PM
  Subject: Re: CSgodzilla now LED lights Belly buttons and aortas


  I googled it.  My mistake.  Evidently an aorta is a certain type of blood 
vessel found in other parts of the body, not just the heart.  Thanks.  Faith G.
- Original Message - 
From: Pat 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 12:41 PM
Subject: Re: CSgodzilla now LED lights Belly buttons and aortas


Have you heard of abdominal aortic aneurysm?  Here's a diagram showing the 
aorta in the belly button area.

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/imagepages/18072.htm

 Pat

  




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Re: CSgodzilla now LED lights Belly buttons and aortas

2008-04-30 Thread M1marine
 
In a message dated 4/30/2008 9:59:49 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
mborg...@att.net writes:



Rowena,
Whatever is behind the belly button, it still feels good to put the  enhancer 
in that spot.  I did it yesterday my husband said he could  actually see my 
face getting redder.  It does feel good.
Mary



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Re: CSgodzilla now LED lights Belly buttons and aortas

2008-04-30 Thread mborgert






The enhancer, but the article was using it with 660 nm LED lights
Mary.
The article states to place it on the belly button where in 20 minutes all the bloods passes through.
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In a message dated 4/30/2008 9:59:49 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mborg...@att.net writes:


Rowena,
Whatever is behind the belly button, it still feels good to put the enhancer in that spot. I did it yesterday my husband said he could actually see my face getting redder. It does feel good.
Mary

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Re: CSgodzilla now LED lights Belly buttons and aortas

2008-04-30 Thread mborgert






The enhancer is called Dan Dial's Molecular enhancer, actually it is a verson of the Tesla device, believe me it works.
Mary
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What is the enhancer if I could ask please and thank you.

Joanne 






Re: CSgodzilla now LED lights Belly buttons and aortas

2008-04-30 Thread ~ Joanne ~
Hi Mary,

Where does one find that enhancer? Thanks for the reply.

Joanne

Re: CSgodzilla now LED lights Belly buttons and aortas

2008-04-30 Thread mborgert






Google dan dial molecular enhancer
-- Original message from "~ Joanne ~" man...@telus.net: -- 



Hi Mary,

Where does one find that enhancer? Thanks for the reply.

Joanne 






Re: CSgodzilla now LED lights Belly buttons and aortas

2008-04-30 Thread ~ Joanne ~
Hi Mary,

Oh my gosh!!! It is out of my price range...

Thanks,

Joanne

Re: CSgodzilla now LED lights Belly buttons and aortas

2008-04-30 Thread Michael Zangari
I've been contemplating mine for years now it seems.
  

B Magnatta mom.magna...@gmail.com wrote:
  Ok , so now we are contemplating our navels? ... Lol... 



And we added a bright idea  to that, ! 



Sincerely Barb M. 







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From: Pat 

Date: 4/30/2008 12:42:01 PM 

To: silver-list@eskimo.com 

Subject: Re: CSgodzilla now LED lights Belly buttons and aortas 








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RE: CSgodzilla now LED lights

2008-04-29 Thread jessie70
Rowena, how do you know the aorta artery is behind the belly button? When
they do laser surgery inside the abdomen, often they go through the belly
button. Wouldn't that interfere with the artery? Thx. Jess
  -Original Message-
  From: mborg...@att.net [mailto:mborg...@att.net]
  Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 6:17 PM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CSgodzilla now LED lights


  Rowena,
  You were the one who emailed and said that all of your blood passes
through the belly button.
  I have an enhancer and I tried this I could litterly feel the blood moving
to different parts of the body, mainly the face.
  Question?  What other acupuncture points are just as valuable???
  I have googled just about everything I could think of to get any
information but not understanding what all of the words are I am having a
hard time.

  Help.  This is good to know.
  Mary
  -- Original message from Rowena
new...@aapt.net.au: --


That is probably also a very effective tool, and lighter to post!  I
have read that the light is effective right through to bone, and I think it
penetrates bone, though it depends what kind you buy; some are fairly
shallow penetrating just for skin, others go in for up to eight inches..

Part of the problem with substances is getting them to the infected site
when it is so deep. They can kill germs where they happen to touch them, and
likely lessen the overall body load.

But electricity and the light can penetrate immediately and get right
deep down to the source.

My understanding is that you simply should not look at the lights.  If
you need to find out if they are working, you can look on a closed circuit
television.  I shine it on my hand, though, and that is enough to show how
strong the light is, whether the batteries have run out, whatever.  Part of
my reading was to say that there was temporary damage from looking briefly
at the light, but that it improved without permanent damage.  However, I
don't know about looking at it longer.  I would have thought it rather
irresponsible to show that being done without eye protection.  But what do I
know, except what I read on the internet?

On the other hand,

http://www.consumerhealth.org/articles/display.cfm?ID=2102232338



 says:  So basically, the use of light-emitting diodes eliminated the
draw back of lasers, and light could be applied into such sensitive areas as
the eyes and around the face.

And
Initially, single frequency light penetrated approximately an inch and a
half, but today, larger un

its can penetrate up to eight inches. It will go through the skull. We
use it on strokes, concussions and internal problems in the brain. Excellent
studies have been done using light for pain relief, degenerative
osteoarthritis, carpal tunnel tendonitis, skin ailments, acne, psoriasis,
healing of the sinus cells, throat and ear problems, whiplash and lower back
problems.



PENETRATING THROUGH THE BLOOD STREAM You can even get light into the
blood stream. One of the best ways is through your belly button, because the
aorta artery is behind the belly button. So if you insert the light there
for 20 minutes, every drop of blood in the body will pass in front of the
light, increasing the activity of your white cells, red cells, B-cells and
T-cells, so you can boost your whole immune system.


LED technology is used by vets on animals, so it  must work.

What is Light Emitting Diode Therapy?
Light Emitting Diode Therapy, commonly known as LEDT, is a form of
phototherapy which involves the application of low power monochromatic and
non-coherent light to injuries and lesions to stimulate healing.

LEDT is used to increase the speed, quality and tensile strength of
tissue repair, resolve inflammation, and give pain relief. The technical
term often used to describe this form of therapy is photobiomodulation.

LEDT is distinct from LLLT, in that LEDs do not produce coherent light
waves. However, many practitioners believe that the effects of LEDT are
similar, and some research has indicated this to be the case.

LEDs have a number of significant benefits over lasers in some respects.
LEDs are a good deal cheaper than laser diodes, thus making them ideal for
use in cluster probes, and are inherently more robust so they can withstand
rougher treatment. This is why NASA has chosen to use LEDT.

http//www.msfc.nasa.gov/news


R



There is one on another internet site that is a dental tool to shine
led healing light on gums.  It would be hard to do that with the array.
  It mentions treating infection.  It also has zappers, colloidal silver
generators, and more but I haven't ordered anything from them so I
don't know anything about them-

http://www.elixa.com/light/arrays.htm

This site shows a woman using infrared and red leds on her face without
eye protection.  Does anyone know which leds are not good

RE: CSgodzilla now LED lights

2008-04-29 Thread Dee
The aorta comes directly from the heart.  Dee 

---Original Message---
 
From: jessie70
Date: 29/04/2008 17:40:25
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSgodzilla now LED lights
 
Rowena, how do you know the aorta artery is behind the belly button? When
they do laser surgery inside the abdomen, often they go through the belly
button. Wouldn't that interfere with the artery? Thx. Jess
-Original Message-
From: mborg...@att.net [mailto:mborg...@att.net]
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 6:17 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSgodzilla now LED lights

Re: CSgodzilla now LED lights

2008-04-28 Thread mborgert






Rowena,
You were the one who emailed and said that all of your blood passes through the belly button. 
I have an enhancer and I tried this I could litterly feel the blood moving to different parts of the body, mainly the face.
Question? What other acupuncture points are just as valuable???
I have googled just about everything I could think of to get any information but not understanding what all of the words are I am having a hard time.

Help. This is good to know.
Mary
-- Original message from "Rowena" new...@aapt.net.au: -- 




That is probably also a very effective tool, and lighter to post! I have read that the light is effective right through to bone, and I think it penetrates bone, though it depends what kind you buy; some are fairly shallow penetrating just for skin, others go in for up to eight inches.. 

Part of the problem with substances is getting them to the infected site when it is so deep.They can kill germs where they happen to touch them, and likely lessen the overall body load.

But electricity and the light can penetrate immediately and get right deep down to the source.

My understanding is that you simply should not look at the lights. If you need to find out if they are working, you can look on a closed circuit television. I shine it on my hand, though, and that is enough to show how strong the light is, whether the batteries have run out, whatever. Part of my reading was to say that there was temporary damage from looking briefly at the light, but that it improved without permanent damage. However, I don't know about looking at it longer. I would have thought it rather irresponsible to show that being done without eye protection. But what do I know, except what I read on the internet?

On the other hand,

http://www.consumerhealth.org/articles/display.cfm?ID=2102232338

says:So basically, the use of light-emitting diodes eliminated the draw back of lasers, and light could be applied into such sensitive areas as the eyes and around the face. 

And 
Initially, single frequency light penetrated approximately an inch and a half, but today, larger un
its can penetrate up to eight inches. It will go through the skull. We use it on strokes, concussions and internal problems in the brain. Excellent studies have been done using light for pain relief, degenerative osteoarthritis, carpal tunnel tendonitis, skin ailments, acne, psoriasis, healing of the sinus cells, throat and ear problems, whiplash and lower back problems. 

PENETRATING THROUGH THE BLOOD STREAM You can even get light into the blood stream. One of the best ways is through your belly button, because the aorta artery is behind the belly button. So if you insert the light there for 20 minutes, every drop of blood in the body will pass in front of the light, increasing the activity of your white cells, red cells, B-cells and T-cells, so you can boost your whole immune system. 

LED technology is used by vets on animals, so it must work.


What is Light Emitting Diode Therapy?
Light Emitting Diode Therapy, commonly known as LEDT, is a form of phototherapy which involves the application of low power monochromatic and non-coherent light to injuries and lesions to stimulate healing.
LEDT is used to increase the speed, quality and tensile strength of tissue repair, resolve inflammation, and give pain relief. The technical term often used to describe this form of therapy is photobiomodulation.
LEDT is distinct from LLLT, in that LEDs do not produce coherent light waves. However, many practitioners believe that the effects of LEDT are similar, and some research has indicated this to be the case.
LEDs have a number of significant benefits over lasers in some respects. LEDs are a good deal cheaper than laser diodes, thus making them ideal for use in cluster probes, and are inherently more robust so they can withstand rougher treatment. This is why NASA has chosen to use LEDT.
http//www.msfc.nasa.gov/news 

R


There is one on another internet site that is a dental tool to shine led healing light on gums. It would be hard to do that with the array.  It mentions treating infection. It also has zappers, colloidal silver generators, and more but I haven't ordered anything from them so I don't know anything about them-http://www.elixa.com/light/arrays.htmThis site shows a woman using infrared and red leds on her face without eye protection. Does anyone know which leds are not good for the eyes? 






Re: CSgodzilla

2008-04-24 Thread Tad Winiecki


On Apr 23, 2008, at 8:04 PM, gmetrop...@aol.com wrote:


Does V still make the godzilla?



I think not, check his website-

http://photoman.bizland.com/godzilla/order.html

I got an led array from him recently though-

http://www.theledman.net/

There is one on another internet site that is a dental tool to shine 
led healing light on gums.  It would be hard to do that with the array. 
 It mentions treating infection.  It also has zappers, colloidal silver 
generators, and more but I haven't ordered anything from them so I 
don't know anything about them-


http://www.elixa.com/light/arrays.htm

This site shows a woman using infrared and red leds on her face without 
eye protection.  Does anyone know which leds are not good for the eyes? 
 I know the blue is not.


Nancy


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Re: CSgodzilla now LED lights

2008-04-24 Thread Rowena
That is probably also a very effective tool, and lighter to post!  I have read 
that the light is effective right through to bone, and I think it penetrates 
bone, though it depends what kind you buy; some are fairly shallow penetrating 
just for skin, others go in for up to eight inches..  

Part of the problem with substances is getting them to the infected site when 
it is so deep. They can kill germs where they happen to touch them, and likely 
lessen the overall body load.  

But electricity and the light can penetrate immediately and get right deep down 
to the source.

My understanding is that you simply should not look at the lights.  If you need 
to find out if they are working, you can look on a closed circuit television.  
I shine it on my hand, though, and that is enough to show how strong the light 
is, whether the batteries have run out, whatever.  Part of my reading was to 
say that there was temporary damage from looking briefly at the light, but that 
it improved without permanent damage.  However, I don't know about looking at 
it longer.  I would have thought it rather irresponsible to show that being 
done without eye protection.  But what do I know, except what I read on the 
internet?

On the other hand, 

http://www.consumerhealth.org/articles/display.cfm?ID=2102232338



 says:  So basically, the use of light-emitting diodes eliminated the draw back 
of lasers, and light could be applied into such sensitive areas as the eyes and 
around the face. 

And 
Initially, single frequency light penetrated approximately an inch and a half, 
but today, larger un

its can penetrate up to eight inches. It will go through the skull. We use it 
on strokes, concussions and internal problems in the brain. Excellent studies 
have been done using light for pain relief, degenerative osteoarthritis, carpal 
tunnel tendonitis, skin ailments, acne, psoriasis, healing of the sinus cells, 
throat and ear problems, whiplash and lower back problems. 



PENETRATING THROUGH THE BLOOD STREAM You can even get light into the blood 
stream. One of the best ways is through your belly button, because the aorta 
artery is behind the belly button. So if you insert the light there for 20 
minutes, every drop of blood in the body will pass in front of the light, 
increasing the activity of your white cells, red cells, B-cells and T-cells, so 
you can boost your whole immune system. 


LED technology is used by vets on animals, so it  must work.

What is Light Emitting Diode Therapy?
Light Emitting Diode Therapy, commonly known as LEDT, is a form of phototherapy 
which involves the application of low power monochromatic and non-coherent 
light to injuries and lesions to stimulate healing.

LEDT is used to increase the speed, quality and tensile strength of tissue 
repair, resolve inflammation, and give pain relief. The technical term often 
used to describe this form of therapy is photobiomodulation.

LEDT is distinct from LLLT, in that LEDs do not produce coherent light waves. 
However, many practitioners believe that the effects of LEDT are similar, and 
some research has indicated this to be the case.

LEDs have a number of significant benefits over lasers in some respects. LEDs 
are a good deal cheaper than laser diodes, thus making them ideal for use in 
cluster probes, and are inherently more robust so they can withstand rougher 
treatment. This is why NASA has chosen to use LEDT.

http//www.msfc.nasa.gov/news 


R



There is one on another internet site that is a dental tool to shine 
led healing light on gums.  It would be hard to do that with the array. 
  It mentions treating infection.  It also has zappers, colloidal silver 
generators, and more but I haven't ordered anything from them so I 
don't know anything about them-

http://www.elixa.com/light/arrays.htm

This site shows a woman using infrared and red leds on her face without 
eye protection.  Does anyone know which leds are not good for the eyes? 


Re: CSgodzilla now LED lights

2008-04-24 Thread mborgert






Thank you for the article.
I remember Brooks wrote about led lights, but I cannot remember what he said.
Does anyone have Brooks's article on LED light Therapy???
Mary
-- Original message from "Rowena" new...@aapt.net.au: -- 



That is probably also a very effective tool, and lighter to post! I have read that the light is effective right through to bone, and I think it penetrates bone, though it depends what kind you buy; some are fairly shallow penetrating just for skin, others go in for up to eight inches.. 

Part of the problem with substances is getting them to the infected site when it is so deep.They can kill germs where they happen to touch them, and likely lessen the overall body load.

But electricity and the light can penetrate immediately and get right deep down to the source.

My understanding is that you simply should not look at the lights. If you need to find out if they are working, you can look on a closed circuit television. I shine it on my hand, though, and that is enough to show how strong the light is, whether the batteries have run out, whatever. Part of my reading was to say that there was temporary damage from looking briefly at the light, but that it improved without permanent damage. However, I don't know about looking at it longer. I would have thought it rather irresponsible to show that being done without eye protection. But what do I know, except what I read on the internet?

On the other hand,

http://www.consumerhealth.org/articles/display.cfm?ID=2102232338

says:So basically, the use of light-emitting diodes eliminated the draw back of lasers, and light could be applied into such sensitive areas as the eyes and around the face. 

And 
Initially, single frequency light penetrated approximately an inch and a half, but today, larger un
its can penetrate up to eight inches. It will go through the skull. We use it on strokes, concussions and internal problems in the brain. Excellent studies have been done using light for pain relief, degenerative osteoarthritis, carpal tunnel tendonitis, skin ailments, acne, psoriasis, healing of the sinus cells, throat and ear problems, whiplash and lower back problems. 

PENETRATING THROUGH THE BLOOD STREAM You can even get light into the blood stream. One of the best ways is through your belly button, because the aorta artery is behind the belly button. So if you insert the light there for 20 minutes, every drop of blood in the body will pass in front of the light, increasing the activity of your white cells, red cells, B-cells and T-cells, so you can boost your whole immune system. 

LED technology is used by vets on animals, so it must work.


What is Light Emitting Diode Therapy?
Light Emitting Diode Therapy, commonly known as LEDT, is a form of phototherapy which involves the application of low power monochromatic and non-coherent light to injuries and lesions to stimulate healing.
LEDT is used to increase the speed, quality and tensile strength of tissue repair, resolve inflammation, and give pain relief. The technical term often used to describe this form of therapy is photobiomodulation.
LEDT is distinct from LLLT, in that LEDs do not produce coherent light waves. However, many practitioners believe that the effects of LEDT are similar, and some research has indicated this to be the case.
LEDs have a number of significant benefits over lasers in some respects. LEDs are a good deal cheaper than laser diodes, thus making them ideal for use in cluster probes, and are inherently more robust so they can withstand rougher treatment. This is why NASA has chosen to use LEDT.
http//www.msfc.nasa.gov/news 

R


There is one on another internet site that is a dental tool to shine led healing light on gums. It would be hard to do that with the array.  It mentions treating infection. It also has zappers, colloidal silver generators, and more but I haven't ordered anything from them so I don't know anything about them-http://www.elixa.com/light/arrays.htmThis site shows a woman using infrared and red leds on her face without eye protection. Does anyone know which leds are not good for the eyes? 






CSgodzilla

2008-04-23 Thread GMetropulo
Does V still make the godzilla?


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Re: CSgodzilla

2008-04-23 Thread Sam L.
I think so but you need to contact him first at
vzo...@yahoo.com

Sam L.

On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 8:04 PM, gmetrop...@aol.com wrote:

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Re: CSGodzilla with silver electrodes - other uses?

2006-08-24 Thread Rowena
Harking back to old topic - silver wire as electrodes in Godzilla for use on 
the skin.

I put the (thinning) wires from my CS generator on my Godzilla with 
alligator clips to use on the skin, then got to wondering whether, in case 
of need, I could make my CS by putting the electrodes in distilled water. 
This would mean a 6v battery doing the job.

I ask this humbly because I feel I should know this if I have been paying 
attention, but having a ready made generator stuck into a hole in the wall I 
probably never listen properly when battery units are discussed.

Be nice to know ready for camping or prison or disaster or power failure or 
...

R 


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Re: CSGodzilla with silver electrodes - other uses?

2006-08-24 Thread V
Hi Rowena,

   Yes you can make CS with 6 volts it jsut takes longer and works better if 
you bubble air through the water while it going.

Take care,
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 Harking back to old topic - silver wire as electrodes in Godzilla for use on
 the skin.

 I put the (thinning) wires from my CS generator on my Godzilla with 
 alligator clips to use on the skin, then got to wondering whether, in case 
 of need, I could make my CS by putting the electrodes in distilled water. 
 This would mean a 6v battery doing the job.

 I ask this humbly because I feel I should know this if I have been paying 
 attention, but having a ready made generator stuck into a hole in the wall I
 probably never listen properly when battery units are discussed.

 Be nice to know ready for camping or prison or disaster or power failure or
 ...

 R 


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Re: CSGodzilla with silver electrodes - other uses?

2006-08-24 Thread Mark S. Siepak
Couldn't you hook up (3) 6v batteries in series ( + of one to - of next,
last two to electrodes - one from first battery, one from last battery) to
get 18v, as I do with 9v batteries (I use 3, because I am getting the last
drops of electricity out of the ones from toys, smoke detectors, etc)
Mark S. Siepak

 
 Yes you can make CS with 6 volts it jsut takes longer and works better if you
 bubble air through the water while it going.
 

 Harking back to old topic - silver wire as electrodes in Godzilla for use on
 the skin.
 
 I put the (thinning) wires from my CS generator on my Godzilla with
 alligator clips to use on the skin, then got to wondering whether, in case
 of need, I could make my CS by putting the electrodes in distilled water.
 This would mean a 6v battery doing the job.


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CSGodzilla

2006-06-05 Thread Terry Chamberlin
We have simplified our lives by using just a 6 volt
battery available at most drugstores or supermarkets,
and a piece of wire. That's it, no more to it.

For a photo, click here:
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/microelectricitygermkiller


What you are seeing is SO simple there's no reason
why anyone would hesitate.  

Just strip all 4 ends, wrap with cloth on two of
them, the other two connect to the battery. Wet the
cloth with water. Use on either side of the virus or
other germ so the current travels through the area
affected. After 10 minutes, reverse the positions of
the wet electrodes and go another 10 minutes. Repeat
as necessary. That's ALL there is to it. You can try
several angles, but usually one is enuf.

It's taken a long time to discard the unnecessary and
arrive at this solution for people who have no means
(not just financial, but skills) to build devices.
This is not really a device at all. It is just a
piece of wire you attach to a battery!!!

Apprentice Godzilla design allows you to make a few
sets of wires, maybe one set with only a little cloth
wrapped on the ends. Another set can be wrapped with
more cloth, to lower the power output for delicate
skin, like the facial area. You will find out a lot by
getting one of these batteries and a wire, and simply
hooking it up.

From the Godzilla website

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CSGodzilla

2006-06-03 Thread Terry Chamberlin
Ole Bob said,
Terry, whether you use a 6 volt battery or a 555
timer running on 9 volts the output is about the same.
 
The timer also known as a zapper changes polarity
every 10  to 3,500 times per minute. With the battery
it might be necessary to change hands every minute or
so.

There are many ways to improve on the design, such as
your recommendation. And it would be nice to not need
to physically switch the electrodes in order to change
the polarity (though it only needs to be done every
10-20 minutes to avoid skin irritation). Folks who
have no experience with electrical components can
still use a battery and some wire. They can purchase a
lantern battery in a variety of places very cheaply,
and hooking it up has only one option - the two
battery terminals.

The 555 timer is an intimidating article when one has
no experience with components.

It seems to me the Godzilla is a good place to start
for rank beginners, then, when ones confidence has
grown, move on to such as you suggest.

Terry

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Re: CSFw: CSGodzilla device...??

2004-07-29 Thread tbass
Hey Hank,
Thanks for the quick reply to my Godzilla
question. Your information is just what
I was looking for. I'll go over to the Yahoo
page and read up on the info.
Thanks again.
Tom Bassett
WM2M


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Re: CSGodzilla device...??

2004-07-29 Thread Dan Nave
The Godzilla device consists of a battery (usually three 1.5V cells) 
with a variable resistor in series with the batteries.  A lead comes
off 
the battery negative and another off the variable resistor (the battery
positive 
is connected to the other end of the variable resistor).  The ends of
the 
leads are terminated in short stainless steel rods which are in turn 
wrapped with cloth or cotton.  These cloth ends are dampened so they 
will conduct electricity and held in place on the pulse points of the
wrists 
or ankles, or other places.  The resistor is adjusted so that the
current 
remains at a low level.  A current meter is often put in the circuit so
that 
the current can be monitored.  One can suffer burns if the current
density 
in a small area gets too high.  The polarity of the DC is usually
switched, 
either manually or with a switch, every so often.

Dan



 tbass t.ba...@verizon.net 7/28/2004 10:38:31 PM 
CS Gang,
I've read almost all the e-mail about the
Godzilla device. But I have yet to find out
just what it is..? Can someone e-mail me 
direct about this item if it is a commercial product.
I simply want to know about what kind
of instrument I'm reading about.
E-mail to: t.ba...@verizon.net 
Thanks in advance.
Tom Bassett   WM2M



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Re: CSGodzilla device...??

2004-07-29 Thread sol
I looked at the photo of the Godzilla in the link below---what is the 
sea salt for?

sol

Hank wrote:


Hi Tom, Check on the group here
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/microelectricitygermkiller/
 they have a lot of info on all types of zapers and the Godzilla. Here 
is a web page of the one I am going to order after the first of the 
month. http://photoman.bizland.com/godzilla/kit.htm

Yours Hank






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Re: CSGodzilla device...??

2004-07-29 Thread Hank
It is to mix with the water to wet the Cotton Covered Stainless Steel  
Electrodes so the electric will flow better.
If you are going to make CS never put anything in the distiled water but .999 
or . silver electrodes.
Yours Hank
  - Original Message - 
  From: sol 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 3:46 PM
  Subject: Re: CSGodzilla device...??


  I looked at the photo of the Godzilla in the link below---what is the 
  sea salt for?
  sol

  Hank wrote:

   Hi Tom, Check on the group here
   http://groups.yahoo.com/group/microelectricitygermkiller/
they have a lot of info on all types of zapers and the Godzilla. Here 
   is a web page of the one I am going to order after the first of the 
   month. http://photoman.bizland.com/godzilla/kit.htm
   Yours Hank

CSGodzilla device...??

2004-07-28 Thread tbass
CS Gang,
I've read almost all the e-mail about the
Godzilla device. But I have yet to find out
just what it is..? Can someone e-mail me 
direct about this item if it is a commercial product.
I simply want to know about what kind
of instrument I'm reading about.
E-mail to: t.ba...@verizon.net
Thanks in advance.
Tom Bassett   WM2M


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Re: CSGodzilla device...??

2004-07-28 Thread Hank
Hi Tom, Check on the group here
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/microelectricitygermkiller/
 they have a lot of info on all types of zapers and the Godzilla. Here is a web 
page of the one I am going to order after the first of the month. 
http://photoman.bizland.com/godzilla/kit.htm
Yours Hank

  - Original Message - 
  From: tbass 
  To: Silver List 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 10:38 PM
  Subject: CSGodzilla device...??


  CS Gang,
  I've read almost all the e-mail about the
  Godzilla device. But I have yet to find out
  just what it is..? Can someone e-mail me 
  direct about this item if it is a commercial product.
  I simply want to know about what kind
  of instrument I'm reading about.
  E-mail to: t.ba...@verizon.net
  Thanks in advance.
  Tom Bassett   WM2M

CSFw: CSGodzilla device...??

2004-07-28 Thread Hank
Hi again Tom, I went ahead and ordered the Godzilla just now.
The http://groups.yahoo.com/group/microelectricitygermkiller/ 
has pictures and files on how to build your own.
Yours Hank


Hi Tom, Check on the group here
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/microelectricitygermkiller/
 they have a lot of info on all types of zapers and the Godzilla. Here is a web 
page of the one I am going to order after the first of the month. 
http://photoman.bizland.com/godzilla/kit.htm
Yours Hank

  - Original Message - 
  From: tbass 
  To: Silver List 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 10:38 PM
  Subject: CSGodzilla device...??


  CS Gang,
  I've read almost all the e-mail about the
  Godzilla device. But I have yet to find out
  just what it is..? Can someone e-mail me 
  direct about this item if it is a commercial product.
  I simply want to know about what kind
  of instrument I'm reading about.
  E-mail to: t.ba...@verizon.net
  Thanks in advance.
  Tom Bassett   WM2M

Re: CSGodzilla cs H2O2

2003-08-18 Thread Mike Monett
url: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m62019.html
Re: CSGodzilla cs  H2O2
From: Robert Berger
Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 13:38:57

   Mike,

   What is  a Godzilla? I would likr to set up and mae some  CS and
   test it to see what is in it.

   Ole Bob

  Hi Robert,

  Here's some  updated info, plus a comparison of Godzilla  against my
  previous best cs generator.

  Construction
  
  Godzilla has  two electrodes of 12 ga wound in a flat  4-turn spiral
  to fit  inside a Pyrex 2 litre measuring cup. The  top  electrode is
  about 46  inches  long and the bottom is about  50  inches  to allow
  extra length  for the risers to the top cover. The wetted area  is a
  bit over 11 square inches.

  Straighten the  wire  by clamping one end  in  locking  pliers, then
  holding it  in  a  closed door. Grab the other end  with  a  pair of
  pliers and  pull  to  get the kinks out, then wind  it  in  a spiral
  around a  4  inch  jar with a flat bottom.  The  spirals  are  a bit
  springy but the 12 ga holds shape pretty well.

  Open the spiral to fit inside the Pyrex. Try to keep an even spacing
  between turns. Bend the risers up gradually to avoid hot spots. Slip
  a plastic drinking straw over the bottom risers to eliminate current
  where they pass by the upper spiral.

  The lower electrode is at the 16 oz level, the upper is at the 64 oz
  level. The bends to the risers are gradual with a radius of  about 1
  to 2  inches  to  minimize the  concentration  of  current.  A small
  plastic drinking straw slips over the bottom risers to  stop current
  flow where they pass by the top spiral.

  The top  cover is a 10 inch child's plastic starter  plate, WallMart
  UPC #70652-00291,  made  by  Arrow  Plastic  Manufacturing  Co., Elk
  Grove, Il.  Don't  get yellow - it will make you  think  the  cs has
  turned color.  Cut  a  slot for the Pyrex handle  and  add  two 6-32
  screws near the spout to keep the electrodes centered in the Pyrex.

  Current Source
  ~~
  You may  need  a high-compliance current source  to  drive Godzilla,
  such as this one:

http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m61896.html

  and the update:

http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m61938.html

  The initial  voltage  across the cell is pretty high,  but  it comes
  down fast.

  Running at  3.1  mA  for 4 hrs gives 25 ppm  calculated.  The  cs is
  crystal clear.  There   is   very   minimal   oxide  deposit  on the
  electrodes.

  Comparison to Previous W CS Generator
  ~~~
  I did  some  runs  to   compare  Godzilla  against  my  previous W
  generator. Here's the data for Godzilla:

  

  Started Godzilla Run #10

  B is cathode. 2 litres. dw is #9. Current is 1.54mA, 134 uA/sq.in.

  Fri Aug 08, 2003, 09:17:02 pm  1.5432mA
  Fri Aug 08, 2003, 09:22:53 pm  1.5438mA
  Fri Aug 08, 2003, 09:50:22 pm  1.5440mA
  Fri Aug 08, 2003, 11:16:06 pm  1.5433mA
  Fri Aug 08, 2003, 11:28:56 pm  1.5434mA - turned off window fan
  Fri Aug 08, 2003, 11:52:15 pm  1.5440mA
  Fri Aug 08, 2003, 11:54:30 pm  1.5442mA
  Fri Aug 08, 2003, 11:57:12 pm  1.5445mA - getting too hot. Fan is on.
  Sat Aug 09, 2003, 07:52:02 am  1.5447mA - many small whiskers.

  About 11 hrs. Here's the calcs

  hrs = 11  ; brew time
  I   = 1.54e-3 ; current
  ml  = 2000; volume of dw

  Solution

  Cou  = 60.98  ; Coulombs transferred
  mg   = 68.17  ; milligrams
  ppm  = 34.08  ; calculated ppm
  uAin = 133.9  ; current density

  

  The actual  ppm  is  lower than the 34 ppm  calculated  due  to some
  deposits on the electrodes.

  The salt test gives instant response as soon as the crystals hit the
  water, and  they leave a trail as they sink to the  bottom.  This is
  pretty strong by my standards.

  Some detail  is obscured on objects behind the glass.  You  can tell
  better by  raising and lowering the glass so your line  of  sight is
  through the  dispersion, then through bare glass. Keep  any overhead
  light from  shining  on the dispersion or you won't be  able  to see
  much at all.

  But the previous cs generator using a W and 4 straight  rods would
  not even  reach  this level. It started turning  color  at  about 22
  ppmc. I ran a test on Saturday to confirm this.

  Here's the data on the W cs generator:

  

  Started Mini Run #13

  W is cathode. 425 ml. dw is #10

  Set the short circuit current to 344uA, 90 uA/sq.in.

  Sat Aug 16, 2003, 04:33:30 pm 13.6V
  Sat Aug 16, 2003, 05:51:04 pm 2.99V
  Sat Aug 16, 2003, 06:17:31 pm 2.49V
  Sat Aug 16, 2003, 08:12:40 pm 1.65V
  Sat Aug 16, 2003, 10:08:11 pm 1.42V
  Sat Aug 16, 2003, 11:32:25 pm 1.30V
  Sat Aug 16, 2003, 11:56:23 pm 1.26V - small gray whiskers

Re: CSGodzilla cs H2O2

2003-08-17 Thread Robert Berger
Mike,

What is a Godzilla?  I would likr to set up and mae some CS and test it to
see what is in it.

Ole Bob



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CSGodzilla cs H2O2

2003-08-15 Thread Mike Monett
Godzilla cs  H2O2

To List;

  There is  something very strange about the cs made with  Godzilla. I
  have remarked  on this with a friend in private email, and  now have
  seen it often enough to present to the group.

  I have  washed  my fabrics using bleach,  ammonia,  vinegar, washing
  soda, borax,  and anything else that I can think of that  might kill
  mold spores. Nothing works more than a few hours.

  I have tried cs and H2O2 by themselves. They had no effect.

  But csH2O2  together had a very strong effect  on  most  of the
  spores. This led to further investigation.

  The first  experiments were with 425 ml solution.  Everything worked
  as expected, and I wanted to make more cs to do all my clothes.

  Thus was  borne  Godzilla - 11.5 sq in electrodes  wound  in  a flat
  spiral and centered in a Pyrex 2 litre measuring cup.

  I was having problems with a hard black coat on the anodes caused by
  some unexplained change in the Wallmart dw. Swapping  the electrodes
  removed the  coating from the cathode, but it reappeared on  the new
  anode. This was tough to get rid of. Eventually I found a  dw called
  Life made by a pharmaceutical company. It seems to work  well, and
  eventually solved the problem.

  The cs  made  during this time had such a  strange  reaction  I only
  mentioned it in private email. Nobody would believe it.

  When I  poured  the cs in a large jar and added the  tiniest  bit of
  H2O2, the entire jar would explode in a bright yellow color,  then a
  white cloud would appear hiding everything.

  It did this for 7 straight runs. I am appending the data for all the
  runs for your examination, and the UPC codes for each bottle of dw.

  On the  8th  run,  adding  H2O2  did  not  produce  the  huge yellow
  explosion, and it has not appeared since.

  The amazing  thing  is how the cs reacts in the  salt  test. Without
  H2O2, it  does  the  normal expected  things.  When  H2O2  is added,
  something else happens that has never happened before. It  is highly
  repeatable.

  I pour 1 litre of cs in a jar, then add 100 ml of ordinary  3% H2O2.
  Then do a salt test.

  When H2O2 is added to the cs made with Godzilla, the salt  test does
  nothing for a few seconds. Then a huge cloud of bubbles  appears and
  the salt disappears. I have never seen this reaction before.

  I repeat the same test over and over until I am almost out  of salt.
  The same thing happens. Then finally I get a strong dispersion.

  This has  very  significant   implications  in  disinfecting clothes
  drenched in sweat. The body salt would normally combine with  the cs
  and form silver chloride. This would destroy the effectiveness.

  But with  the  Godzilla cs, the H2O2 rips the salt  apart  and forms
  bubbles. This  leaves  the silver ions intact to  kill  bacteria and
  mold spores,  and probably any viruses unlucky enough to  be  in the
  way.

  I have  not  been able to do laundry the past few days  due  the the
  power blackout. My only option is to drench the clothes in cs  H2O2
  for several hours and put them in the sun to dry.

  After they  are  dry,  I smell them. Before,  they  stank  of sweat,
  bacteria, and mold spores. Now, they smell fresh, clean, and have no
  trace of any kind of odor.

  There is  only  one  spore  left  that  still  gives  a high-pitched
  screaming headache. This is the one I must kill.

  But this stuff works better than anything I have tried before.

Best Regards,

Mike Monett

  Here is  the data on the dw and the tests in reverse  order.  T is
  the top electrode, B is the bottom electrode.

  

  DW Date and UPC Codes

  Crystal Springs : Loeb
  UPC Code: 66967 00050

  Echo Springs : WallMart
  UPC Code : 74865 3

  Life Brand : Shopper's Drug Mart (0.99 on sale, $1.49 reg)
  UPC Code   : 57800 00353

  Serial Numbers

  #01 Echo Springs: APR25030153
  #02 Echo Springs: JUL10030824
  #03 Echo Springs: JUL10030824
  #04 Crystal Springs : PR0 03MA30 14:45
  #05 Life: PRO3184PT13:27B
  #06 Life: PRO3169PT10:23B
  #07 Life: PRO3169PT10:17B
  #08 Life: PRO3161PT09:24B
  #09 Life: PRO31169PT10:17B
  #10 Life: PRO3161PT09:24B

  

  Started Godzilla Run #11

  T is cathode. 2 litres. dw is #10

  Set the short circuit current to 0.7765 mA.

  Sat Aug 09, 2003, 11:11:49 pm 12.65V 0.776mA
  Sat Aug 09, 2003, 11:23:03 pm 11.10V
  Sun Aug 10, 2003, 06:17:36 am 1.61V
  Sun Aug 10, 2003, 09:49:07 am 1.47V
  Sun Aug 10, 2003, 01:20:42 pm 1.25V
  Sun Aug 10, 2003, 02:10:22 pm 1.235V

  I notice  that walking into the room causes the  voltage  reading to
  become erratic  and  fluctuate  wildly in  the  4th  digit.  Then it
  settles down after sitting at the computer for a while and is stable
  in the 5th digit.

  I think 

Re: CSGodzilla

2002-12-23 Thread Tad Winiecki
If silver electrodes would be better, why not use them?  I have some for CS
that are 1 wide x 3 long strips.  Would that be a good electrode size and
would they need to be covered or just used bare?  Could you just hook a
gator clip on them and use them without having to permanently attach them
with solder or whatever?

Nancy

- Original Message - From: Jason Eaton ey...@lvcm.com
Shirley:   I've been following the Godzilla device as  well...  DC
units cannot be compared to any of the AC units out  there...  Direct
Current is natural to the body, albeit the current is  extremely minute.  
The biggest challenge to consider is managing the  current in the body. 
According to Dr. Robert O. Becker, anything over  about 1 MA can stimulate
the growth of cancer, and can cause an electrolysis  reaction in the fluids
of the body.   I wish they'd recommend using higher quality  electrodes (
precious metals ie gold/silver ).   It all comes down to how long this
device needs to  be used at a time, and the end current travelling below
the skin.   Kind Regards,   Jason




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Re: CSGodzilla

2002-12-22 Thread Jason Eaton
Shirley:

I've been following the Godzilla device as well...  DC units cannot be compared 
to any of the AC units out there...  Direct Current is natural to the body, 
albeit the current is extremely minute.

The biggest challenge to consider is managing the current in the body.  
According to Dr. Robert O. Becker, anything over about 1 MA can stimulate the 
growth of cancer, and can cause an electrolysis reaction in the fluids of the 
body.

I wish they'd recommend using higher quality electrodes ( precious metals ie 
gold/silver ).

It all comes down to how long this device needs to be used at a time, and the 
end current travelling below the skin.

Kind Regards,

Jason
  - Original Message - 
  From: Shirley Reed 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2002 1:12 PM
  Subject: CSGodzilla


 I too find the Godzilla unit very interesting.  That group seems to be 
getting some very impressive results.  I think it was mentioned on that list 
something about the DC current polarizing the blood.  I don't understand 
anything about that, but it seemed to be a negative effect.  The electrode size 
info seemed to be quite significant.  Hope knowledgeable folk will be able to 
put information in very simple terms.  :)   pj




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CSGodzilla

2002-12-21 Thread Shirley Reed
   I too find the Godzilla unit very interesting.  That group seems to be 
getting some very impressive results.  I think it was mentioned on that list 
something about the DC current polarizing the blood.  I don't understand 
anything about that, but it seemed to be a negative effect.  The electrode size 
info seemed to be quite significant.  Hope knowledgeable folk will be able to 
put information in very simple terms.  :)   pj


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