Re: CSWaterOz Ionic Silver - Silver Citrate
A PWT measures electrical conductivity which increases as the ionic content of the liquid increases. The PWT reading has a relationship to total ionic content, not silver content. Any ions added to the water increase the electrical conductivity and thus the PWT reading. Just bubbling air through the water will increase the PWT reading. The notion that silver content can be determined by a PWT is myth, not science. If you want to measure the silver ionic concentration use an Ion Selective Electrode (ISE). ## Agreed..anything measured with a PWT gives an approximate guess based on variable relationships rather than direct measurement. ...how come I can get as high a stable reading as 78 uS on the PWT when making CS? Probably because you have an ionic solution that is at equilibrium. It does not mean you have any specific amount of silver. An ISE can determine the ionic silver concentration (but not total silver). Is it because there are not enough anions present in the water to 'discharge' the silver cations? Anions do not discharge cations. The cations and anions both retain their ionic charge. They are always in balance to maintain a net charge of zero. there's no reason I can see that I couldn't go higher. Silver cation concentration cannot go higher unless the companion anions are provided. If silver cations are added to the water by electrolysis beyond the available anions present, the solution becomes saturated and the silver precipitates out as metallic silver in the form of large flat flakes. ## So, a PWT is measuring the conductivity of both the cations and anions? Obviously the solution is saturated and silver is precipitating out because it does display a heavy TE indicating that metallic particles have formed...but they're small colorless particles that remain suspended, not large fat flakes. The conductivity kept on rising as suspended metallic precipitates formed faster and faster and thicker till I chickened out and stopped. Point is that the conductivity never stopped rising. It was certainly not a constant ratio, rather, it seemed [seemed because I only have eyeball observation of TE increase as an instrument and that's no way to 'quantify' anything] that conductivity gain slowed as particle formation speeded up..but conductivity never leveled off indicating that a saturation point had not been reached beyond which ONLY particles would form. However, A batch made with H2O2 as a 'starter' DID reach a maximum conductivity of 13.1 uS and large fat flat metal flakes [suitable for a metal flake paint job] DID form for hours and hours with no further rise in conductivity ...till I just gave it up. [78 uS is as high as I've gone and still produced a colorless CS but there's no reason I can see that I couldn't go higher. TE at that reading is VERY strong indicating a total silver content probably beyond 150 PPM] You are only guessing about concentration. ## You bet. And stated as a guess. Unless you are adding citrate or some other anion to the water it is unlikely it will get anywhere near 150 ppm. ## Unless, of course, the total silver PPM contains significant numbers of colloidal sized metallic particles which it does. I wasn't even shooting for a 'solution', rather, a mix of solution and metallic suspension. ..but the conductivity of the 'solution' never reached a max anywhere near 13 uS..which might or might not exactly be 13 PPM ionic. I would think I'd run out of anions at some point. ?? Unless the total silver is tested by a scientifically valid method (atomic absorption/emission) you can't be sure what you have. ## I'll agree there! ..and even then it may well be the 'best available that state of the art science can provide' guess. [a thousand times better than a PWT which is more like a wild guess caught in a trappers net and fed valium to calm it down] Ode frank key - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote coyote...@earthlink.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2003 6:50 AM Subject: Re: CSWaterOz Ionic Silver - Silver Citrate If 13 PPM is the max ionic silver content [assuming a relationship between cations and ions..same thing only charge specific, right?] and a PWT uS reading bears a relationship to the quantity and concentraion of those ions...how come I can get as high a stable reading as 78 uS on the PWT when making CS? Is it because there are not enough anions present in the water to 'discharge' the silver cations? [78 uS is as high as I've gone and still produced a colorless CS but there's no reason I can see that I couldn't go higher. TE at that reading is VERY strong indicating a total silver content probably beyond 150 PPM] Ode At 11:43 AM 9/6/2003 -0400, you wrote: Silver is a cation (+). For every cation there must be a companion anion (-) present in a solution so that the net charge is zero. Pure water will allow about 13 ppm of silver cations using hydroxide as the anion
Re: CSWaterOz Ionic Silver - Silver Citrate
It allows much more to dissolve in the water and not be unstable than pure CS would be. Silver citrate has good solubility. Marshall Jonathan B. Britten wrote: Do you have any idea of the logic behind adding the citric acid? I am not a chemist and can not venture even an uneducated guess. Is there any underlying logic apparent to a chemist? On Saturday, Sep 6, 2003, at 06:23 Asia/Tokyo, Frank Key wrote: Ion Chromatograph has confirmed that citrate is the anion in WaterOz Ionic Silver. Silver citrate at a concentration of 100 ppm (WaterOz) can cause argyria if caution is not exercised in how much is consumed. Silver citrate can be produced by electrolysis by using a colloidal silver generator of either HVAC or DC type design. By adding citric acid to the DI water before starting the process, citrate will become the companion anion when silver cations are added to the solution by electrolysis. The ph will be neutral when the silver cations balance the available citrate anions. frank key -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSWaterOz Ionic Silver - Silver Citrate
I think I know what you are trying to accomplish. This is what I would try. Infuse with CS and dry to get a bunch of seed sites of atoms and particles of silver. Put into a mixture of silver citrate or silver nitrate mixed with a photo developer. Of couse a standard photo developer would work best, but it is toxic, so you would have to make sure to completely wash it out. Instead you might want to use a developer that is not toxic, but does not develop as fast. Caffine I think is likely a good choice for that. Make sure that your caffine water mixture is of the right ph, you will need to add something to it to make it basic, such as sodium hydroxide or soduim bicarbonate. After developing for however long you want, wash the developer out. If you want to stop the particle growth dead at a certain stage, then use a stop solution, citric or acedic acid would work well for that. This should allow you to put a heck of a lot of silver into the clay. Marshall Reid Harvey wrote: Frank, Forgive me if I've asked this before. For the concentrated CS we use to saturate water filters, could the silver citrate be used as a stabilizer, simply adding the stoiciometric amount necessary? This would enable us to ship the CS for saturation of filters in other parts of the country. Reid Frank Key wrote: Ion Chromatograph has confirmed that citrate is the anion in WaterOz Ionic Silver. Silver citrate at a concentration of 100 ppm (WaterOz) can cause argyria if caution is not exercised in how much is consumed. Silver citrate can be produced by electrolysis by using a colloidal silver generator of either HVAC or DC type design. By adding citric acid to the DI water before starting the process, citrate will become the companion anion when silver cations are added to the solution by electrolysis. The ph will be neutral when the silver cations balance the available citrate anions. frank key -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSWaterOz Ionic Silver - Silver Citrate
If 13 PPM is the max ionic silver content [assuming a relationship between cations and ions..same thing only charge specific, right?] and a PWT uS reading bears a relationship to the quantity and concentraion of those ions...how come I can get as high a stable reading as 78 uS on the PWT when making CS? Is it because there are not enough anions present in the water to 'discharge' the silver cations? [78 uS is as high as I've gone and still produced a colorless CS but there's no reason I can see that I couldn't go higher. TE at that reading is VERY strong indicating a total silver content probably beyond 150 PPM] Ode At 11:43 AM 9/6/2003 -0400, you wrote: Silver is a cation (+). For every cation there must be a companion anion (-) present in a solution so that the net charge is zero. Pure water will allow about 13 ppm of silver cations using hydroxide as the anion. Pure water supplies the hydroxide. If the goal is to make a concentration of silver greater than 13 ppm, then some additional anions must balance the cations. The salt formed from combining the cations and anions must form a water soluble compound. Silver citrate is one such water soluble compound. Other water soluble compounds of silver include silver nitrate and silver acetate. frank key - Original Message - From: Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 2:37 AM Subject: Re: CSWaterOz Ionic Silver - Silver Citrate Do you have any idea of the logic behind adding the citric acid? I am not a chemist and can not venture even an uneducated guess. Is there any underlying logic apparent to a chemist? On Saturday, Sep 6, 2003, at 06:23 Asia/Tokyo, Frank Key wrote: Ion Chromatograph has confirmed that citrate is the anion in WaterOz Ionic Silver. Silver citrate at a concentration of 100 ppm (WaterOz) can cause argyria if caution is not exercised in how much is consumed. Silver citrate can be produced by electrolysis by using a colloidal silver generator of either HVAC or DC type design. By adding citric acid to the DI water before starting the process, citrate will become the companion anion when silver cations are added to the solution by electrolysis. The ph will be neutral when the silver cations balance the available citrate anions. frank key -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSWaterOz Ionic Silver - Silver Citrate
It is not clear to me what you are trying to stabilize. If you saturated a water filter with silver citrate, water passing through the filter would simply wash it away since silver citrate is water soluble. It would make more sense to me to impregnate a water filter with metallic silver. frank key - Original Message - From: Reid Harvey pott...@wlink.com.np To: silver list silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 7:56 PM Subject: Re: CSWaterOz Ionic Silver - Silver Citrate Frank, Forgive me if I've asked this before. For the concentrated CS we use to saturate water filters, could the silver citrate be used as a stabilizer, simply adding the stoiciometric amount necessary? This would enable us to ship the CS for saturation of filters in other parts of the country. Reid Frank Key wrote: Ion Chromatograph has confirmed that citrate is the anion in WaterOz Ionic Silver. Silver citrate at a concentration of 100 ppm (WaterOz) can cause argyria if caution is not exercised in how much is consumed. Silver citrate can be produced by electrolysis by using a colloidal silver generator of either HVAC or DC type design. By adding citric acid to the DI water before starting the process, citrate will become the companion anion when silver cations are added to the solution by electrolysis. The ph will be neutral when the silver cations balance the available citrate anions. frank key -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSWaterOz Ionic Silver - Silver Citrate
Ode wrote: If 13 PPM is the max ionic silver content [assuming a relationship between cations and ions..same thing only charge specific, right?] The 13 ppm is for pure water, but you don't have pure water. Your water has dissolved carbon dioxide and other contaminants. The CO2 provides carbonate anions so the silver cation concentration can go a bit higher. ... and a PWT uS reading bears a relationship to the quantity and concentration of those ions... A PWT measures electrical conductivity which increases as the ionic content of the liquid increases. The PWT reading has a relationship to total ionic content, not silver content. Any ions added to the water increase the electrical conductivity and thus the PWT reading. Just bubbling air through the water will increase the PWT reading. The notion that silver content can be determined by a PWT is myth, not science. If you want to measure the silver ionic concentration use an Ion Selective Electrode (ISE). ...how come I can get as high a stable reading as 78 uS on the PWT when making CS? Probably because you have an ionic solution that is at equilibrium. It does not mean you have any specific amount of silver. An ISE can determine the ionic silver concentration (but not total silver). Is it because there are not enough anions present in the water to 'discharge' the silver cations? Anions do not discharge cations. The cations and anions both retain their ionic charge. They are always in balance to maintain a net charge of zero. there's no reason I can see that I couldn't go higher. Silver cation concentration cannot go higher unless the companion anions are provided. If silver cations are added to the water by electrolysis beyond the available anions present, the solution becomes saturated and the silver precipitates out as metallic silver in the form of large flat flakes. [78 uS is as high as I've gone and still produced a colorless CS but there's no reason I can see that I couldn't go higher. TE at that reading is VERY strong indicating a total silver content probably beyond 150 PPM] You are only guessing about concentration. Unless you are adding citrate or some other anion to the water it is unlikely it will get anywhere near 150 ppm. Unless the total silver is tested by a scientifically valid method (atomic absorption/emission) you can't be sure what you have. frank key - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote coyote...@earthlink.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2003 6:50 AM Subject: Re: CSWaterOz Ionic Silver - Silver Citrate If 13 PPM is the max ionic silver content [assuming a relationship between cations and ions..same thing only charge specific, right?] and a PWT uS reading bears a relationship to the quantity and concentraion of those ions...how come I can get as high a stable reading as 78 uS on the PWT when making CS? Is it because there are not enough anions present in the water to 'discharge' the silver cations? [78 uS is as high as I've gone and still produced a colorless CS but there's no reason I can see that I couldn't go higher. TE at that reading is VERY strong indicating a total silver content probably beyond 150 PPM] Ode At 11:43 AM 9/6/2003 -0400, you wrote: Silver is a cation (+). For every cation there must be a companion anion (-) present in a solution so that the net charge is zero. Pure water will allow about 13 ppm of silver cations using hydroxide as the anion. Pure water supplies the hydroxide. If the goal is to make a concentration of silver greater than 13 ppm, then some additional anions must balance the cations. The salt formed from combining the cations and anions must form a water soluble compound. Silver citrate is one such water soluble compound. Other water soluble compounds of silver include silver nitrate and silver acetate. frank key - Original Message - From: Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 2:37 AM Subject: Re: CSWaterOz Ionic Silver - Silver Citrate Do you have any idea of the logic behind adding the citric acid? I am not a chemist and can not venture even an uneducated guess. Is there any underlying logic apparent to a chemist? On Saturday, Sep 6, 2003, at 06:23 Asia/Tokyo, Frank Key wrote: Ion Chromatograph has confirmed that citrate is the anion in WaterOz Ionic Silver. Silver citrate at a concentration of 100 ppm (WaterOz) can cause argyria if caution is not exercised in how much is consumed. Silver citrate can be produced by electrolysis by using a colloidal silver generator of either HVAC or DC type design. By adding citric acid to the DI water before starting the process, citrate will become the companion anion when silver cations are added to the solution by electrolysis. The ph will be neutral when the silver cations balance
Re: CSWaterOz Ionic Silver - Silver Citrate
Hi Ken: Another anion is used, quite possibly carbonate, a few people have even hypothesized that the anion is nitrogen. Best Regards, Jason - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote coyote...@earthlink.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2003 3:50 AM Subject: Re: CSWaterOz Ionic Silver - Silver Citrate If 13 PPM is the max ionic silver content [assuming a relationship between cations and ions..same thing only charge specific, right?] and a PWT uS reading bears a relationship to the quantity and concentraion of those ions...how come I can get as high a stable reading as 78 uS on the PWT when making CS? Is it because there are not enough anions present in the water to 'discharge' the silver cations? [78 uS is as high as I've gone and still produced a colorless CS but there's no reason I can see that I couldn't go higher. TE at that reading is VERY strong indicating a total silver content probably beyond 150 PPM] Ode At 11:43 AM 9/6/2003 -0400, you wrote: Silver is a cation (+). For every cation there must be a companion anion (-) present in a solution so that the net charge is zero. Pure water will allow about 13 ppm of silver cations using hydroxide as the anion. Pure water supplies the hydroxide. If the goal is to make a concentration of silver greater than 13 ppm, then some additional anions must balance the cations. The salt formed from combining the cations and anions must form a water soluble compound. Silver citrate is one such water soluble compound. Other water soluble compounds of silver include silver nitrate and silver acetate. frank key - Original Message - From: Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 2:37 AM Subject: Re: CSWaterOz Ionic Silver - Silver Citrate Do you have any idea of the logic behind adding the citric acid? I am not a chemist and can not venture even an uneducated guess. Is there any underlying logic apparent to a chemist? On Saturday, Sep 6, 2003, at 06:23 Asia/Tokyo, Frank Key wrote: Ion Chromatograph has confirmed that citrate is the anion in WaterOz Ionic Silver. Silver citrate at a concentration of 100 ppm (WaterOz) can cause argyria if caution is not exercised in how much is consumed. Silver citrate can be produced by electrolysis by using a colloidal silver generator of either HVAC or DC type design. By adding citric acid to the DI water before starting the process, citrate will become the companion anion when silver cations are added to the solution by electrolysis. The ph will be neutral when the silver cations balance the available citrate anions. frank key -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSWaterOz Ionic Silver - Silver Citrate
Do you have any idea of the logic behind adding the citric acid? I am not a chemist and can not venture even an uneducated guess. Is there any underlying logic apparent to a chemist? On Saturday, Sep 6, 2003, at 06:23 Asia/Tokyo, Frank Key wrote: Ion Chromatograph has confirmed that citrate is the anion in WaterOz Ionic Silver. Silver citrate at a concentration of 100 ppm (WaterOz) can cause argyria if caution is not exercised in how much is consumed. Silver citrate can be produced by electrolysis by using a colloidal silver generator of either HVAC or DC type design. By adding citric acid to the DI water before starting the process, citrate will become the companion anion when silver cations are added to the solution by electrolysis. The ph will be neutral when the silver cations balance the available citrate anions. frank key -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSWaterOz Ionic Silver - Silver Citrate
Silver is a cation (+). For every cation there must be a companion anion (-) present in a solution so that the net charge is zero. Pure water will allow about 13 ppm of silver cations using hydroxide as the anion. Pure water supplies the hydroxide. If the goal is to make a concentration of silver greater than 13 ppm, then some additional anions must balance the cations. The salt formed from combining the cations and anions must form a water soluble compound. Silver citrate is one such water soluble compound. Other water soluble compounds of silver include silver nitrate and silver acetate. frank key - Original Message - From: Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 2:37 AM Subject: Re: CSWaterOz Ionic Silver - Silver Citrate Do you have any idea of the logic behind adding the citric acid? I am not a chemist and can not venture even an uneducated guess. Is there any underlying logic apparent to a chemist? On Saturday, Sep 6, 2003, at 06:23 Asia/Tokyo, Frank Key wrote: Ion Chromatograph has confirmed that citrate is the anion in WaterOz Ionic Silver. Silver citrate at a concentration of 100 ppm (WaterOz) can cause argyria if caution is not exercised in how much is consumed. Silver citrate can be produced by electrolysis by using a colloidal silver generator of either HVAC or DC type design. By adding citric acid to the DI water before starting the process, citrate will become the companion anion when silver cations are added to the solution by electrolysis. The ph will be neutral when the silver cations balance the available citrate anions. frank key -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSWaterOz Ionic Silver - Silver Citrate
Frank, Forgive me if I've asked this before. For the concentrated CS we use to saturate water filters, could the silver citrate be used as a stabilizer, simply adding the stoiciometric amount necessary? This would enable us to ship the CS for saturation of filters in other parts of the country. Reid Frank Key wrote: Ion Chromatograph has confirmed that citrate is the anion in WaterOz Ionic Silver. Silver citrate at a concentration of 100 ppm (WaterOz) can cause argyria if caution is not exercised in how much is consumed. Silver citrate can be produced by electrolysis by using a colloidal silver generator of either HVAC or DC type design. By adding citric acid to the DI water before starting the process, citrate will become the companion anion when silver cations are added to the solution by electrolysis. The ph will be neutral when the silver cations balance the available citrate anions. frank key -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSWaterOz Ionic Silver - Silver Citrate
An interesting aside to this is that the citrate ion was discovered according to one paper to allow the associated cation to cross the blood brain barrier, which is normally not open to silver transport according to most sources. ( a real bummer when you drink grape juice from lead containers like the Romans did). I have advised against mixing CS and citrus juices for this reason in the past. If WaterOz is in that form and no neurological problems have been reported, then perhaps my stance is a bit too cautionary. i am left wondering if the citrate does not transport the silver into the brain after all, or if silver is not toxic to the brain as is reported other places. Marshall Frank Key wrote: Ion Chromatograph has confirmed that citrate is the anion in WaterOz Ionic Silver. Silver citrate at a concentration of 100 ppm (WaterOz) can cause argyria if caution is not exercised in how much is consumed. Silver citrate can be produced by electrolysis by using a colloidal silver generator of either HVAC or DC type design. By adding citric acid to the DI water before starting the process, citrate will become the companion anion when silver cations are added to the solution by electrolysis. The ph will be neutral when the silver cations balance the available citrate anions. frank key -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSWaterOz Ionic Silver - Silver Citrate
Ion Chromatograph has confirmed that citrate is the anion in WaterOz Ionic Silver. Silver citrate at a concentration of 100 ppm (WaterOz) can cause argyria if caution is not exercised in how much is consumed. Silver citrate can be produced by electrolysis by using a colloidal silver generator of either HVAC or DC type design. By adding citric acid to the DI water before starting the process, citrate will become the companion anion when silver cations are added to the solution by electrolysis. The ph will be neutral when the silver cations balance the available citrate anions. frank key -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSWaterOz Ionic Silver - Silver Citrate
Frank: That's great to know, thank you for the analysis. Best Regards, Jason - Original Message - From: Frank Key fr...@colloidalsciencelab.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 2:23 PM Subject: CSWaterOz Ionic Silver - Silver Citrate Ion Chromatograph has confirmed that citrate is the anion in WaterOz Ionic Silver. Silver citrate at a concentration of 100 ppm (WaterOz) can cause argyria if caution is not exercised in how much is consumed. Silver citrate can be produced by electrolysis by using a colloidal silver generator of either HVAC or DC type design. By adding citric acid to the DI water before starting the process, citrate will become the companion anion when silver cations are added to the solution by electrolysis. The ph will be neutral when the silver cations balance the available citrate anions. frank key -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSWaterOz Ionic Silver - Silver Citrate
Interesting paper on silver citrate: http://www.imspure.com/products/silverion/PDF/DOC1866.pdf Also this site has a number of very interesting links on silver. http://www.eonenet.com/members/maskspray/product4.php3 Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
