Re: [SLUG] latex question
* Michael Lake [EMAIL PROTECTED] spake thus:
\setlength{\unitlength }{1mm}
\begin{picture}(10,10) % width=10x10
\put(0,0){\makeleftpage }
\put(140,0){\makerightpage } % puts 140mm to the right
\end{picture}
erg - nope, I'm afraid that doesn't work as well as you expect. It's not
only overlapping left-right but also all stuck in the middle at the top
of the page :P
sorry.
Taryn
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Re: [SLUG] latex question
At Tue, 25 Oct 2005 12:37:07 +1000, Taryn East wrote:
\begin{tabular}{l|r}
\makeleftpage \makerightpage \\
\end{tabular}
You could also use something explicit (and simpler?) like this:
\makeleftpage \hspace{3mm} \vrule \hspace{3mm} \makerightpage
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Re: [SLUG] latex question
* Ian Wienand [EMAIL PROTECTED] spake thus:
Looking back at your original example, Latex is assuming you are using
a portrait page, which isn't wide enough to get all that stuff in.
Thus Latex then just shoves the boxes ontop of each other.
a good idea, but sadly not the case - my real .tex is in landscape
format and still suffers from the same problem :(
You can check the width with the \showthe command (\showthe\textwidth)
to make sure it does look wide.
it seems to break on this while generating the page - pesumably this is
normal behaviour.
I get a text width of 758.835pt... which sounds like a large number and
therefore plausible - but I admit my in-brain conversion function is
dodgy.
WIERDWIERDWIERD! I've suddenly got it to work and I'm not yet sure why.
:(
I was preparing an example to show how I changed it - I was using the
parboxes to surround them and was going to compare the parboxes vs the
(then) broken minipages... but my example worked where it shouldn't
have:
\newcommand{\makerightpage}{
\begin{minipage}{0.25\textwidth}
whatever\\
whatever\\
whatever\\
\end{minipage}
}
\newcommand{\makeleftpage}{
\begin{minipage}{0.75\textwidth}
some really long line to show that the line length pushes it out
beyond the edge of the right-hand section when it's not working.
\end{minipage}
}
\begin{tabular}{l|r}
\makeleftpage \makerightpage
\end{tabular}
So I put in the data from my more complex real invoice and it works too.
I'm honestly not sure what I *wasn't* doing the last time that is now
fixed... this is annoying as I'm not sure, therefore how to avoid it in
future... :(
though it does solve my current problem, at least. :)
Thanks for helping get my thought processes moving through this one.
Taryn
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Re: [SLUG] latex question
* Angus Lees [EMAIL PROTECTED] spake thus:
At Tue, 25 Oct 2005 12:37:07 +1000, Taryn East wrote:
\begin{tabular}{l|r}
\makeleftpage \makerightpage \\
\end{tabular}
You could also use something explicit (and simpler?) like this:
\makeleftpage \hspace{3mm} \vrule \hspace{3mm} \makerightpage
ah thank you - I like that - much simpler, and steers clear of the
horrible HTML-ish tables-as-layout thing to.
Thanks,
Taryn
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Re: [SLUG] returning windows software
On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 08:44:49 +1000 Michael Lake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: James Purser wrote: On Mon, 2005-10-24 at 13:28 +, l cheung wrote: Get a life, get a power book. :) Yes but can you return OSX? It's a good idea to keep OSX on it as a small partition that can be booted by default for the first year. If you have to return the machine under warranty the techos at Broadway (thats where the Apple service centre is) will then be able to boot it and run their diagnostics. You'll get it back with your Linux untouched. Otherwise they will have to do a new install and wipe your Linux. o, never thought of that... good point Would this apply to the Acer techos as well while the machine is under warranty? ie for the same reasons? Mike -- Michael Lake Chemistry, Materials Forensic Science, UTS Ph: 9514 1725 Fx: 9514 1460 [pls ignore idiot lawyer's msg below] -- UTS CRICOS Provider Code: 00099F DISCLAIMER: This email message and any accompanying attachments may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, do not read, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message or attachments. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender expressly, and with authority, states them to be the views the University of Technology Sydney. Before opening any attachments, please check them for viruses and defects. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] usb audio problem
Henry Chatroop wrote: On the off chance that I am having a run of bad luck with hubs I will be buying another 7 port powered hub and repeater of a different brand today. And it made no difference. Henry Interested in the applications of technology - past, present and future - especially unusual. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Re: returning windows software
quote who=Nicholas Jefferson Yes but can you return OSX? No, and the Trade Practices Act is no use because Apple Computer produces the software that is preloaded - i.e. Apple freely chooses to sell hardware + software systems, unconstrained by coercive contracts. If Apple was also the only hardware manufacturer in the world *then* the government might intervene, but short of that there isn't a hope of getting a refund for OS X. Plus, quite a few companies resell Apple hardware with non-Apple software. - Jeff -- UbuntuBelowZero in Montreal! http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBelowZero Well, you know us usability folks... We like to believe that the two aren't mutually exclusive. - Calum Benson on power and cleanliness -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Re: returning windows software
Plus, quite a few companies resell Apple hardware with non-Apple software. Do you still effectively pay for OS X or do these companies obtain hardware sans software from Apple? I'd like a PowerPC but I'd rather not pay for software I don't use - it's difficult enough getting a refund for XP, let alone OS X ;-) Kind regards, Nicholas -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Re: returning windows software
quote who=Nicholas Jefferson Plus, quite a few companies resell Apple hardware with non-Apple software. Do you still effectively pay for OS X or do these companies obtain hardware sans software from Apple? I'd like a PowerPC but I'd rather not pay for software I don't use - it's difficult enough getting a refund for XP, let alone OS X ;-) The latter, I believe. Hey, even Apple will sell you their hardware with a competing operating system on it (and support it)... If asked nicely! ($$$) - Jeff -- Ubuntu USA Europe Tour: Oct-Nov 2005http://wiki.ubuntu.com/3BT I would hack on the file selector. But I think I would write like, 3 LOC for every 100 lines of mail I had to read/write. - James Willcox -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Xserver/Xclient
Hi all I'm told that one of the big pros of the X server/client is that the server and the client can be on separate machines ( I guess like a remote desktop). How can I use my windows machine to run applications on the linux machine. Currently I'm just using a vnc setup. Phill smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Xserver/Xclient
Phill wrote: Hi all I'm told that one of the big pros of the X server/client is that the server and the client can be on separate machines ( I guess like a remote desktop). How can I use my windows machine to run applications on the linux machine. Currently I'm just using a vnc setup. Phill Short answer: install cygwin on your windows machine, making sure to install whatever X server is included with it. Other info which may or may not be useful: in terms of X servers, the terms server/client are probably inverted to natural thought (maybe its just me though). Linux needs an X server to display the application, that X server does not have to be on the machine that the application is running on. In fact, the machine the linux app is running on does not even need an X server installed. You might naturally think of the linux box as the server in a case like this, which it is in the sense that it is serving the app. But the X server runs on the client. Which basically means you need an x server on your windows machine. Hence cygwin. Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] xmms config volume problem
Hello I am using xmms with alsa and using a shell script to play a series of sound files at different amplitudes -by setting the volume level in the ~/.xmms/config file before running - ie: volume_left=50 volume_right=0 However they play at full volume anyway and when I look in the config file two new lines have been appended: volume_left=100 volume_right=100 Evidently alsa is adding these lines in. How do I stop it doing this or which alsa file does my shell script have to modify to set the desired volume levels? Thanks in advance for any help you can provide. Henry Interested in the applications of technology - past, present and future - especially unusual. [xmms] allow_multiple_instances=TRUE use_realtime=FALSE always_show_cb=TRUE convert_underscore=TRUE convert_%20=TRUE show_numbers_in_pl=TRUE snap_windows=TRUE save_window_positions=TRUE dim_titlebar=TRUE use_pl_metadata=TRUE get_info_on_load=FALSE get_info_on_demand=TRUE eq_doublesize_linked=TRUE no_playlist_advance=FALSE sort_jump_to_file=FALSE smooth_title_scroll=TRUE use_backslash_as_dir_delimiter=FALSE player_x=309 player_y=71 player_shaded=FALSE player_visible=TRUE shuffle=FALSE repeat=FALSE doublesize=TRUE autoscroll_songname=TRUE timer_mode=0 vis_type=0 analyzer_mode=0 analyzer_type=1 analyzer_peaks=TRUE scope_mode=0 vu_mode=1 vis_refresh_rate=0 analyzer_falloff=3 peaks_falloff=1 playlist_x=295 playlist_y=25 playlist_width=300 playlist_height=232 playlist_shaded=FALSE playlist_visible=FALSE playlist_transparent=FALSE playlist_font=-adobe-helvetica-bold-r-*-*-10-* use_fontsets=FALSE mainwin_use_xfont=FALSE mainwin_font=-adobe-helvetica-medium-r-*-*-8-* playlist_position=0 equalizer_x=20 equalizer_y=136 snap_distance=10 equalizer_visible=FALSE equalizer_shaded=TRUE equalizer_active=FALSE equalizer_autoload=FALSE easy_move=FALSE use_eplugins=FALSE always_on_top=FALSE sticky=FALSE equalizer_preamp=-1.11022e-15 random_skin_on_play=FALSE pause_between_songs=FALSE pause_between_songs_time=2 mouse_wheel_change=8 show_wm_decorations=FALSE eqpreset_default_file=dir_default.preset eqpreset_extension=preset equalizer_band0=-1.11022e-15 equalizer_band1=-1.11022e-15 equalizer_band2=-1.11022e-15 equalizer_band3=-1.11022e-15 equalizer_band4=-1.11022e-15 equalizer_band5=-1.11022e-15 equalizer_band6=-1.11022e-15 equalizer_band7=-1.11022e-15 equalizer_band8=-1.11022e-15 equalizer_band9=-1.11022e-15 output_plugin=/usr/lib/xmms/Output/libALSA.so disabled_iplugins= url_history_length=0 generic_title_format=%p - %t filesel_path=/home/henry/Desktop/rest/download2/_audio/_H/Hawaii 5-0/soundamerica/ volume_left=50 volume_right=0 [ALSA] buffer_time=500 period_time=50 mmap=TRUE pcm_device=hw:1,0 mixer_card=0 mixer_device=PCM soft_volume=TRUE volume_left=100 volume_right=100 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Xserver/Xclient
On Wednesday 26 October 2005 10:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm told that one of the big pros of the X server/client is that the server and the client can be on separate machines ( I guess like a remote desktop). How can I use my windows machine to run applications on the linux machine. Currently I'm just using a vnc setup. Phill Short answer: install cygwin on your windows machine, making sure to install whatever X server is included with it. [snip] I don't believe that this is the answer. Cygwin allows the windows machine to have a unix-api and for it to run unix programs. It does not do what cxoffice does for linux machines. I know of no windows sw that will run a remote unix app. You can look at putty which will give you a term screen which can run apps. I think vnc is better/easier than cygwin, but that gives you a desktop ala any of the other X-servers that run on windows. Really, said he sticking out his neck and saying cut-it-off, only X lets you run arbitary apps on machine A displaying on machine B. The window manager/desktop is a background issue. ie no window manager and you can still run say kmail on the blank grey screen of B from machine A. James -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Xserver/Xclient
James wrote: On Wednesday 26 October 2005 10:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm told that one of the big pros of the X server/client is that the server and the client can be on separate machines ( I guess like a remote desktop). How can I use my windows machine to run applications on the linux machine. Currently I'm just using a vnc setup. Phill Short answer: install cygwin on your windows machine, making sure to install whatever X server is included with it. [snip] I don't believe that this is the answer. Cygwin allows the windows machine to have a unix-api and for it to run unix programs. It does not do what cxoffice does for linux machines. No, but you can run an X server under cygwin which can then be used as the display for an app from a linux machine. At least that is my understanding without ever having tried it. I know of no windows sw that will run a remote unix app. You can look at putty which will give you a term screen which can run apps. Not gui ones though, without an X server of some sort and XForward enabled. I think vnc is better/easier than cygwin, but that gives you a desktop ala any of the other X-servers that run on windows. Really, said he sticking out his neck and saying cut-it-off, only X lets you run arbitary apps on machine A displaying on machine B. The window manager/desktop is a background issue. ie no window manager and you can still run say kmail on the blank grey screen of B from machine A. James Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Xserver/Xclient
On 10/26/05, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 26 October 2005 10:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm told that one of the big pros of the X server/client is that the server and the client can be on separate machines ( I guess like a remote desktop). How can I use my windows machine to run applications on the linux machine. Currently I'm just using a vnc setup. Phill Short answer: install cygwin on your windows machine, making sure to install whatever X server is included with it. [snip] I don't believe that this is the answer. Cygwin allows the windows machine to have a unix-api and for it to run unix programs. It does not do what cxoffice does for linux machines. It doesn't do what cxoffice does, but it does what the original poster asked - i.e. to be able to login remotely to a linux machine from Windows and run a graphics interface on the Linux which displays its windows on the Windows machine. In case you are not up to date with it (which I suspect from your definition of Gygwin as a simple unix-api) then it also includes a full port of the core XFree86 to Windows. Cheers, --Amos -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] Xserver/Xclient
It doesn't do what cxoffice does, but it does what the original poster asked - i.e. to be able to login remotely to a linux machine from Windows and run a graphics interface on the Linux which displays its windows on the Windows machine. In case you are not up to date with it (which I suspect from your definition of Gygwin as a simple unix-api) then it also includes a full port of the core XFree86 to Windows. Cygwin has X.org now, and gtk, and gnome, and subversion, and rpm, and ... :) I can vouch that remote X works, I've run a cygwin X.org server displaying applications running on my linux box over ssh. Vnc might work better for you though, especially over slow connections with display intensive applications. - Rog -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Xserver/Xclient
On Wed, Oct 26, 2005 at 12:36:20AM +1000, Phil Scarratt wrote: Phill wrote: I'm told that one of the big pros of the X server/client is that the server and the client can be on separate machines ( I guess like a remote desktop). How can I use my windows machine to run applications on the linux machine. Currently I'm just using a vnc setup. Phill Short answer: install cygwin on your windows machine, making sure to install whatever X server is included with it. Slightly longer answer: Have a look at the Cygwin/X project at http://x.cygwin.com/ . The downloading section has a very quick guide to installing the cygwin components for running an X server. Just select the xorg-x11-base package and it will resolve any dependencies for you automatically. While you're installing cygwin components, I'd strongly suggest installing openssh as well. Even if you already have putty or something else, having access to a commandline ssh client from within cygwin makes forwarding X connections a lot simpler. cygwin will have installed a batch file, startxwin.bat, for launching the X server. Start it up, and it should launch an xterm window. From there you can ssh to your linux machine (make sure you use the -Y option for X11 forwarding) and run your applications. There's a lot more detail in the Cygwin/X user's guide at http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ug/ . Other info which may or may not be useful: in terms of X servers, the terms server/client are probably inverted to natural thought (maybe its just me though). For what it's worth, I wrapped my head around this one by reasoning that the X server arbitrates access to input and output hardware and serves it up to the applications that want to get keyboard input or display stuff on a screen. It does feel back-to-front, but only until you realise that a server doesn't necessarily have to be serving resources directly to a human. Hope that helps. -- Pete -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Xserver/Xclient
On Wed, Oct 26, 2005 at 12:56:50PM +1000, Amos Shapira wrote: In case you are not up to date with it (which I suspect from your definition of Gygwin as a simple unix-api) then it also includes a full port of the core XFree86 to Windows. Minor point of order: it's even more up to date than you think; they've moved from XFree86 to X.org. :-) It's pretty neat, too. Rootless and all. -- Pete -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Anyone know of a LISP Users group in Sydney ?
Hello fellow SLUGers, Does anyone know of any LISP user groups in our fair city ? If there are any LISP users on this list, could they drop me a line ? I'm a beginner looking for info on good places to hone my skills. Thanks David -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Albert introducing himself
Hello everyone at SLUG, My name is Albert, I am from Barcelona, Spain and I just arrived to Sydney two weeks ago. I am into the Open Source movement and computer technologies in general, have been working on the GNU/Linux for aobut 5 years, and as it is my first visit in Australia, don't have many contacts yet. I would like to get to meet you all as well as contribute to your organization's events, help setting up linux systems, share linux knowledge (although I am not very well in public speeches as for my rusty english yet), or whatever other ways you may find a need for. feel free to drop me an email or reach me at my mobile 0423 738 403. Best regards to all Albert Casals -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Anyone know of a LISP Users group in Sydney ?
Hello fellow SLUGers, Does anyone know of any LISP user groups in our fair city ? Nope, but I'm willing to get involved with one. If there are any LISP users on this list, could they drop me a line ? I'm a beginner looking for info on good places to hone my skills. Right here. I'm still pretty much a beginner myself, but getting the hang of it quickly. Three resources that you'll find very useful: http://www.cliki.net http://www.lispworks.com/documentation/HyperSpec/Front/index.htm http://www.gigamonkeys.com/book/ The entire book is available from there, but I bought the hardcopy version anyway. It's easier to read on the bus, and it seems only fair to support the publisher when I'm getting that much value out of it. Cheers, James -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Xserver/Xclient
On 10/26/05, Peter Hardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Oct 26, 2005 at 12:56:50PM +1000, Amos Shapira wrote: In case you are not up to date with it (which I suspect from your definition of Gygwin as a simple unix-api) then it also includes a full port of the core XFree86 to Windows. Minor point of order: it's even more up to date than you think; they've moved from XFree86 to X.org. :-) It's pretty neat, too. Rootless and all. Gladly I do not depend on Windows to access Linux so I admit to have an outdated info on this. Thanks to both corrections given over the list. Cheers, --Amos -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] xmms config volume problem
Henry, xmms doesn't usually set the volume. Nor is the volume set in a config file - its essentially a state in the driver. Just use a tool like aumix (or amixer for alsa) to change volume levels: aumix -v50,0 play_sound aumix -v0,50 play_sound The -w option is also handy, depending on your sound setup (changing PCM as opposed to master volume). Cheers, - Simon On Wed, 26 Oct 2005, Henry Chatroop wrote: Hello I am using xmms with alsa and using a shell script to play a series of sound files at different amplitudes -by setting the volume level in the ~/.xmms/config file before running - ie: volume_left=50 volume_right=0 However they play at full volume anyway and when I look in the config file two new lines have been appended: volume_left=100 volume_right=100 Evidently alsa is adding these lines in. How do I stop it doing this or which alsa file does my shell script have to modify to set the desired volume levels? Thanks in advance for any help you can provide. Henry Interested in the applications of technology - past, present and future - especially unusual. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Anyone know of a LISP Users group in Sydney ?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello fellow SLUGers, Does anyone know of any LISP user groups in our fair city ? Nope, but I'm willing to get involved with one. I'd probably pop along to such a thing largely out of curiousity. I think there are many people on this list who have at least had a passing infatuation with LISP, or something like it. If you like LISP, you might like Smalltalk as well. The entire book is available from there, but I bought the hardcopy version anyway. It's easier to read on the bus, and it seems only fair to support the publisher when I'm getting that much value out of it. http://www.paulgraham.com/books.html is probably worth browsing through as well. Mark, doing consulting work in python. Life's not so bad ... -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
