RE: [SLUG] Re: [ot] Using telephone wiring for networking?
I thought so too, until I tested* some supposedly 1500V transformers of the type used in NICs and found that they broke down at voltages a lot lower than 1500V (I think the lowest was 500V). Unless they are tested (and certified so), they may survive or they may emit smoke. Needless to say I rejected the batch. Now a faulty switch mode power supply could potentially put a lot more than 240V onto the low voltage output, as they switch at a much higher voltage internally, like 400 or 600 V. That would break down an uncertified NIC. Kaboom. - Jill. * that was at Scitec many years ago. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 7 December 2005 11:45 AM To: slug@slug.org.au Subject: [SLUG] Re: [ot] Using telephone wiring for networking? On Wednesday 07 December 2005 07:58, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 06 December 2005 13:35, Robert Collins wrote: On Tue, 2005-12-06 at 10:41 +1100, James Gray wrote: AIUI austel certification only kicks in if you are connecting the thing to the phone network. If you happen to have a bunch of copper in the walls, that is not connected to the public network - it does not apply. And by connected to the public network they mean in any way through any device. So even if you isolate your network from the public one with a router or modem etc, you're still deemed to be connected. Not sure if you're still deemed to be connected if the external/public link is wireless though (they are more concerned about electrical isolation than spurious data). At tleast this was how the regs were written back in '95 when I was AUSTel Certified. Things may have changed - usual disclaimers apply. Jesus thats scarey. Why isn't my power socket AUSTel certified ? Because the assumption is that you are using AUSTel approved network/telephone equipment which has been certified to meet the isolation requirements. I've personally seen what happens to a thin-ether (10base2) network when a PC's power supply decided to send all 240VAC through the motherboard and hence the network card. Goodnight Irene for everything else too. However, the same machine had an AUSTel certified internal (ISA) modem - the PABX it was running through was untouched. See the difference? U ... when an elderly and distinguished scientist says something is impossible he's nearly always wrong ... A nic card has an isolating transformer rated to some 1000v between it and the cable. For the 240v to escape A it needs a faulty transformer on A, then to infect B it needs another faulty transformer on B James -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] [ot] Using telephone wiring for networking?
Title: Message Hehe they probably also don't tell you that it interferes with your TV, radio and hifiif you live in a marginal reception area, and doesn't work when the council's off peak hot water relay controls cut in! - Jill. -Original Message-From: Michael Fox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 6 December 2005 1:59 PMTo: slug@slug.org.auSubject: Re: [SLUG] [ot] Using telephone wiring for networking? And speaking of networking...Australian PC User issue Jan 2006 has a hardware review about the Netcomm NP210 HomePlug devices.These units plug into a powerpoint and allow you to network between rooms using your powerpoints.Of course it ends up being slower then wireless anyways, let alone ethernet :)-- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] [ot] Using telephone wiring for networking?
Er, I think you'll find it is certified to something. Unless you are using a dodgy brothers homebrew power supply, you should see some labels on the gear which can be traced to an Australian safety standard. If your appliance doesn't connect to the telephone network then it doesn't need to have austel certification, just safety. IIRC the device connected on the phone side of the modem needs the austel certification, the modem's power supply needs austel certification if it powers up the phone line side, but anything on the other (i.e. isolated) side just needs the standard safety certification. On the subject of fun safety things, old CRT monitors without a UL flame rating can result in fires. I've seen two go up in smoke literally when their power supply expired of its own accord. Cheers, Jill. -Original Message- From: Robert Collins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 6 December 2005 5:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: slug@slug.org.au Subject: Re: [SLUG] [ot] Using telephone wiring for networking? Sorry, I think my irony was not clear enough. I'm not saying the austel standards based/useless/wrong. I was pointing out that my *power supply* is electrical equipment, connected to the phone network but not certified. So I dont see why *other equipement* cannot also be considered outside the bounds of the standards, because of the same isolation requirements. Rob -- GPG key available at: http://www.robertcollins.net/keys.txt. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] [ot] Using telephone wiring for networking?
Depends on length. I seem to recall some interesting figures for short lengths (say 6m) for the old 1980's style phone cable. I suspect the claims you are talking about are from people using CAT5 twisted pair which is data cable, also used for phones. Also was the claim for running 100MBit/s continuously, or for running 100baseT which is slower? Cheers, Jill. -Original Message- From: Richard Hayes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 5 December 2005 5:08 PM To: slug@slug.org.au Subject: [SLUG] [ot] Using telephone wiring for networking? Dear List, I have seen claims that normal twisted pair telephone can work up to 100MBits/Sec. Has anyone had any experience with it in the real world? http://www.homepna.org/ -- Richard Hayes Nada Marketing PO Box 12 Gordon Australia 2072 Tel: +(61-2) 9412 4367 Fax: +(61-2) 9412 4920 Mob: +(61) 0414 618 425 www.nada.com.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] I hate udev!
Gents, You really, really should not be hot plugging SCSI equipment or turning it off when plugged into a live SCSI chain. The way most SCSI device physical connections are wired, if the device is powered down, it risks over-heating other transistors in the SCSI chain. It's not the way they were designed to operate. There is also a chance of data corruption on the live side, due to the impedance at the interface being wrong with things switched off. If I were you I would either go buy some USB kit, which is designed to be hot plugged, or put up with having it all SCSI devices on all the time. - Jill. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 25 November 2005 8:47 PM To: slug@slug.org.au Subject: Re: [SLUG] I hate udev! On Friday 25 November 2005 17:32, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ben Stanley wrote: So SCSI is not electrically designed for hot-plugging, and most pieces of SCSI equipment come with dire warnings against doing so... Agreed. However, I don't believe for a minute that all devices connected to a scsi chain have to be on for the chain to be valid. It's quite acceptable to turn a device connected to the chain off. Removing the terminator / breaking the chain however, is a definite no no. [snip] P.S I gave in an rebooted the server during the night. I've now recored the major and minor numbers of the device file so that if it happens again I'll just mknod them. P.P.S thanks everyone for the advice pertaining to backups. Some food for thought there. But do yourself a favor and do lsmod to see what scsi modules are loaded for the tape cause you will just get No such device if the mknod uses unloaded drivers. James -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] Solaris vs Linux .. Nexenta??
I think Linux needs does to stay competitive with other kernels. New platforms are always coming out, and I'd like to see Linux continue to shine on them (compared with other kernels). I'm referring to Linux as an OS kernel, not all the other FOSS software like OpenOffice. There are some really interesting things coming out in virtual server space. Remember also that the collection of kernel-less GNU software has been around long before Linux became popular. So I don't see that there is a problem with distro folks wanting to put a bundle of useful things with a Solaris, BSD or Mach kernel. The complaint about Open Office's user interface being like MS Office is really nothing to do with Linux, and a lot to do with whatever the end user wanted. For that matter, you can install another Office package. You don't even need to use MS Office on Windows, you can use another.* * although there are getting fewer of them. BTW did anyone else do a double take with that name, Nexenta? It went past me as Netra with Xen. Cheers, Jill. -Original Message- From: Glen Turner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 28 November 2005 12:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: slug@slug.org.au Subject: Re: [SLUG] Solaris vs Linux .. Nexenta?? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If Linux is ever going to compete with MAC/Windows on a commercial level why not have a hybrid GNOME/KDE/SOLARIS (UNIX) distro, and essentially take the best qualities of each? Why does Linux need to compete? That way lies stupidity like OpenOffice copying the worst features of Microsoft Word's user interface. If you are a Linux distributor that decides you do want to compete with Microsoft then why would you involve Sun? Sun and Novell both had ample opportunity to compete with Microsoft and fluffed it. What can they contribute? And will that contribution bring with it the seeds of failure of their previous attempts? In practice the opposite to your question is happening. Solaris is taking the best of the FOSS software in order to remain competitive. In a supreme irony, so is SCO. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] Network Attached Storage (NAS)
We installed a NAS a couple of years ago, and for the most part it has been relatively trouble-free. Some problems which came up: - Nonstandard Windows 2000 system surprised some of the Windows systems administrators as some tools were not present which they were used to. - Overly-trusting NFS system. If I was root on Unix box A, then I automatically became admin on the NAS. This was not particularly secure so we disabled it and went back to CIFS only. You might enquire about this because later versions of NAS may be a bit more secure now. I think the NASs that use Services for Unix may be OK as you just specify whether root on one is admin on the other (or not). - Check how expandable the disk array is, and subscribe to the manufacturer's end-of-life list. We got caught out with an expandable system but it would only work with the same brand arrays, and they were EOLd about a year after we bought it. - Users always fill up file systems unless they are micro-managed. We partitioned our NAS with the main array being one phy partition, multiple logical ones (Win shares). The net result was some users tended to hog the array and others complained about no space. The better option is to virtualise the space: ask your provider if they can do this. It might cost a bit extra though. - In a large org, users come and go. This means files and sometimes great gobs of stuff get orphaned, and Groups get unmanaged. You really need to have eye on this, maybe get some procedures written down that everyone follows. As for large files, they should be OK. They will just take a while to open. For large directories, I have seen one with over 16000 entries in it. It takes about 40 seconds to view the directory. Do take out a service contract on a NAS because a lot more people are relying on it being available compared with desktop computers, and if it breaks you need it up quickly. Make sure you can restore user's file when they accidentally delete them, so you will need some backup/restore system. Cheers, Jill. -Original Message- From: Rajnish [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 5 August 2005 12:28 PM To: slug@slug.org.au Subject: [SLUG] Network Attached Storage (NAS) All, I would like to get your esteemed opinion on a number of queries concerning NAS. But first a background - our LAN accomodates a number of diff OSes, including Solaris, Linux, Win2K and WinXP. We would like to attach NAS device(s) on the LAN, and be able to access storage space from all the above OSes. In particular, it is important that NAS devices support NFS - to enable Un*x boxes to mount the space. The space is to be used both as permanent storage as well as overflow workspaces for our developers. Questions: 1) Is NAS a suitable solution for such an environment ? If a case is to be made for/against it, what are the ups and downs ? 2) More importantly, what are your experiences with dealing with these devices ? Do they support NFS ? 3) Your experiences with speed and reliability ? We have particularly large files (200MB-2GB) to deal with and compiles includes a large number of files. Any tips, suggestions, references will be appreciated. Thanking you all in anticipation. Please reply to NG for future reference. -- Regards, Rajnish -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61
RE: [SLUG] Ideas for linux internet server hardware.
Possibly out-of-scope for what you are doing, but I recently had a look at the IBM blade servers. They are very quiet compared with the 1u pizza boxes, mainly because the blower is bigger and doesn't have to run as fast as the little 1U fans have to achieve the same cooling effect. There is also a muffler available if you need to get it even quieter. Then again, if your computer room is too hot, everything will be noisy. Bring the temperature down to you-need-jacket level and it all quietens down remarkably. Cheers, Jill. -Original Message- From: Lindsay Holmwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 21 July 2005 4:10 PM To: Slug list Subject: Re: [SLUG] Ideas for linux internet server hardware. Matthew Hannigan wrote: On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 08:18:44PM +1000, Ben Donohue wrote: Just wondering if there are any ideas out there about where to buy good compatible with Linux hardware. Possibly building a custom machine. Or how about 3 years warranty on a name brand server? HP? IBM? The obvious are HP, IBM or maybe DELL. I can't say enough of the IBM xSeries. They start at very reasonable prices, are certified to work with Linux, are very well supported (a number of IBM redbooks available on tweaking RHEL to work nicely), and have quite a range of upgrades and build options. One note with all these server type 1u rack units like the sun 20z or hp dl360 is that they sound like a cessna taking off. So only suitable for a machine room. I work a lot with x306's and an x365, and the same applies to them. Server room only. Matt ps. I have no connection to sun. Lindsay (and I have no connection to IBM) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] Ideas for linux internet server hardware.
Well our home Athlon Debian system seems to know all about fan management (noisy bugger in summer!). Linux certainly has power and fan management, it's in the APM software suite. The only problems I have seen in APM is where the hardware manufacturer does not tell how to manage the fans. Start with the Red Hat hardware compatibility list: that, at least, will give you a list of hardware known to be working with Linux (aim for the fully qualified ones). The IBM bladeserver I was mentioning was running Linux (didn't check if it was Red Hat ES or SuSE), and certainly knows about cooling management. The Dell webpage is confusing if you look at their home/personal range as it's all Windows, but go to their corporate section and look under rack mount servers. They have Linux (Red Hat) as an option, and that will know about fan management. But the Dells are noisy. Cheers, Jill. -Original Message- From: Matthew Hannigan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 22 July 2005 9:41 AM To: Rowling, Jill Cc: Slug list Subject: Re: [SLUG] Ideas for linux internet server hardware. On Thu, Jul 21, 2005 at 05:00:20PM +1000, Rowling, Jill wrote: Then again, if your computer room is too hot, everything will be noisy. Bring the temperature down to you-need-jacket level and it all quietens down remarkably. Ah, yeah, but that's the issue for some (most?) machine / linux combos; linux doesn't necessarily have the power / fan management required. Matt -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] [OT] What tools for an automatic control system
Hi, It depends on the rate of change and response that you need. You mentioned real time, so I assume you need something close to analog control gear in terms of response time. In a closed system (that is, you know how big it will get, it won't get any more inputs/outputs in its lifetime), you can calculate what sort of response time you will get if you have one monitor for several inputs, assuming all inputs are changing. In a variable system, where you are adding or removing i/o, you may be better served with a 1:1 relationship between input and monitor. This becomes more critical in the case of safety control systems, but is less of an issue if it is just the garden lights. For control and feedback mechanisms you might want to brush up on some control theory and maths if you want to avoid oscillatory systems. Sorry I can't advise you on free tools; my control systems were in microcontroller assembler or C (many microcontrollers come with A/D and D/A converters), but I think you could get away with 'dd' from the command line if your device has a driver... Cheers, Jill. -Original Message- From: Richard Hayes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 20 July 2005 6:31 AM To: slug@slug.org.au Subject: [SLUG] [OT] What tools for an automatic control system Dear list, I am thinking about creating an automatic control system. The main purpose is to maintain an established relationship between say, temperature and pressure. E.g. If the temperature is too high, reduce pressure There will be a number of real time data feeds. 1. Would it be better if each data feed / sensor had it own independent 'agent' / servlet to monitor its function or is a single integrated system to monitor all the sensors? 2. What free tools exist to monitor systems? Any other suggestions. -- Richard Hayes Nada Marketing PO Box 12 Gordon Australia 2072 Tel: +(61-2) 9412 4367 Fax: +(61-2) 9412 4920 Mob: +(61) 0414 618 425 www.nada.com.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] ubuntu samab
Hi all, You really need to be using encrypted passwords for all Windows clients. IIRC there used to be a patch (regedit script) for Win 95 and Win 98 clients to ensure they were using encrypted passwords. It should be somewhere on samba.org but you can google for it. Check in your smb.conf file that you have this entry: encrypt passwords = yes Regards, Jill. -Original Message- From: Carlo Sogono [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 19 July 2005 8:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; slug@slug.org.au Subject: RE: [SLUG] ubuntu samab Ashley, Might be a password problem. AFAIK, Win 98 uses cleartext passwords while XP (only?) uses encrypted. Your samba server might be using cleartext passwords and the XP clients are not accepting these. Also your old samba version might be a lot older than ubuntu's. Carlo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ashley maher Sent: Tuesday, 19 July 2005 8:33 AM To: slug@slug.org.au Subject: [SLUG] ubuntu samab I've installed a new ubuntu samba server. The server replaces a samba server that has worked well for years. I used the config file (slightly moded) from the old server to the new. Windows 98 machines logon fine. Windows XP Pro clients had problems with the machine accounts. So I deleted a machine account to try and rejoin to find if this fixes the problem and not authorised. I then remembered Ubuntu locks the root pwd. I've always used teh samba docs and used root-samba-root-user-pwd to join machine accounts. Clearly Ubuntu does something in the config to get around this. THe web site didn'g get me far. Urls' or assistance appreciated. (The more for dummies the better) Regards, Ashley -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] OT: GPG for Windows (Outlook)?
If your external source insists on the passworded zip then it depends on how often you need to do this. If you need to do it often enough, then the mail filter needs to be altered for that user/source combo. Sometimes you have to negotiate with the sender instead. There are free-as-in-beer versions of gpg for windows (google for it) which both users can install at each end, and they just need to agree on a password. They will work with outlook. For a one-off they can courier a cdrom to each other, far cheaper than changing the whole system. -Original Message- From: James Gray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 15 July 2005 9:59 AM To: SLUG Subject: [SLUG] OT: GPG for Windows (Outlook)? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] Retreiving data from a borked CF card
I've had something similar with a USB device and fixed it with: # umount -f /dev/whatever (even though it wasn't mounted) Re-mounting was OK afterwards. Cheers, Jill -- Jill Rowling, System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia Level 2, 55 Mentmore Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484, Fax: (02) 9667-3160 -- -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] Templates and their manufacture.
HTML form? Java app? - Jill. -Original Message- From: Bill Bennett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 5 July 2005 3:40 PM To: slug@slug.org.au Subject: [SLUG] Templates and their manufacture. As a given project (I wasn't paying attention at the time) I have to make a template. I thought a template was something like the preamble of the LaTeX documents I have been preparing for years: paragraph indent, font type, offsets etc. Well, it is and it isn't. The template I have been given is a GUI type that asks for information and, when complete does something and tells you/displays a message. As a dedicated command line user and an equally dedicated avoider of Microsoft, I am somewhat stuck. Can anyone, please, suggest an application that will do what I have been requested? Regards, Bill Bennett. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] Samba 3 login from XP
Couple of things. 1. As you are not the domain controller, do you want to try security = server And password server = abc (where abc is the name of your local password server)? 2. If that doesn't help, what happens if you comment out the socket options line? I think NTLM takes a while to do it's thing, and specifying the delays may cause more problems. Regards, Jill. -Original Message- From: Edwin Humphries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 29 June 2005 11:51 AM To: Slug@slug.org.au Subject: [SLUG] Samba 3 login from XP I have a dual boot laptop (XP and FC4). I need to be able to access the data partition (FAT32) from another XP machine regardless of which OS the laptop is running. The partition mounts under FC fine, but I can't get the samba login to work properly. The laptop is visible on the Windows network, but trying to login pulls up an authentication window; entering the username and password just reopens the window. -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] is a floppy inserted ?
One other consideration, more for the archive than for this particular case - if there IS a floppy in there, the results will probably go to stdout. If there is NOT a floppy in there, the remark may go to stderr. You'll have to test it, whichever tool you choose in a script. Cheers, Jill. -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] subdirs in /tmp ?
Are you sure /tmp is cleared on reboot? I thought that was just a Sun/SPARC thing. Our home x86 Debian system keeps /tmp between reboots until it is cleared selectively by a cron. - Jill. -- Jill Rowling, System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia Level 2, 55 Mentmore Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484, Fax: (02) 9667-3160 -- -Original Message- From: Peter Chubb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 15 June 2005 1:06 PM To: Voytek Cc: slug@slug.org.au Subject: Re: [SLUG] subdirs in /tmp ? snip /tmp is cleared on every reboot, and often there's a cron job that goes around removing files that haven't been accessed in some period. If you're running Debian, this is handled by the tmpreaper package, IIRC. Or tmpwatch on RedHat-derived systems. If you want persistent temporary files, use /var/tmp, that's what it's for. -- -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] the parable of the mudpile...
Systems Engineering used to be a compulsory subject at both UNSW EE/CS and UTS EE; clearly it isn't compulsory everywhere! Unfortunately most small businesses (includes many telcos, computer game developers and some dot-com survivors) are unaware that the cost of a project is inversely proportional to the effort put into the initial specification, and just cannot understand the leap from small projects to large projects. The usual result is they cease to be in business after a while. - Jill. -Original Message- From: Rob Sharp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 10 June 2005 1:34 PM To: SLUG Subject: Re: [SLUG] the parable of the mudpile... Is that not how every mud-hut building company works? ;-) I only hope the senior dev^H^H^Hmud-hut builder isn't on the SLUG list...! Rob. -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] urgent! Hard disc dissapeared.
Sorry to rain on your parade, but most likely you have a hardware fault. If you open up the box, with the power off, check that the cables are all in place. I have seen a connector fall off a Dell system once. Cheers, Jill. -Original Message- From: Jeff Ai [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 11 May 2005 4:13 PM To: Sydney Linux User Group Subject: [SLUG] urgent! Hard disc dissapeared. I was doing some recording using audacity, when i tried to save a project, the system froze and i could not switch to a console to shut the machine down, so i had to use the reset button and after this my system could not boot up anymore, it could not a mount the hard disk which i mount to /home ... the error message reads The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2 filesystem. If the device is valid and it really contains an ext2 filesystem (and not swap of ufs or something else), then the superblock is currupt, and you might try running e2fsck with an alternate superblock: e2fsck -b 8193 device then i log into the rescue mode and the /dev/hdb1 is not there. what is going on here? googling didn't give me much more information. i have all my data on this disk and only have a partial backup ... can anyone please help me? thanks a lot urgent! Hard disc disappeared. J Ai -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] Solaris 10 and RH EL 3.0 Dual Boot
Google came up with a few suggestions - I haven't tried a dual boot myself though: http://supportforum.sun.com/sunos/index.php?t=msggoto=963rid=0 Regards, Jill. -Original Message- From: Rajnish [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2005 11:46 AM To: slug@slug.org.au Subject: [SLUG] Solaris 10 and RH EL 3.0 Dual Boot All, I've got to setup solaris 10 and RH Enterprise in a dual boot configuration on x86 platform. My dual/triple boot is limited to linuxes, and M$-windoze platforms. As I am totally in the dark on solaris boot setup/process, I am interested in beginner level to intermediate level information - so any links (from your firefox bookmarks), and other pointers (whatever level of relevance) for me to read will be most appreciated. Please reply to slug, if possible. Thanking you in anticipation. -- Regards, Rajnish -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] Buying a Printer
Curling paper is a feature of most laser printers. It's caused by moisture in the paper causing the paper to expand a bit, then it goes past the rollers and gets ironed into a curl. You should find that brand new paper out of the packet does not curl. Only put about as much as you need into the paper tray, and keep the rest sealed until you need it. This is not a problem for high volume (office) printing, as the paper doesn't sit round for long enough to absorb moisture, nor is it a problem for bubble jets or ink jets as they do not use heated rollers. I usually put the hot curled paper under a big book before it cools down. Cheers, Jill. -Original Message- From: Simon Males [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 19 April 2005 9:31 PM To: Richard Neal Cc: slug@slug.org.au Subject: Re: [SLUG] Buying a Printer snip The only problem I have with the printer itself is that it curles paper. For less then 5 page jobs its not all that much of an issue, but like my 25 document it becomes really difficult to sit the pages squarely together for a decent stable job. It makes the output tray over flow and messy. Although while attempting to duplex, the pages seemed to be ironed out and do not curl at all. -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] Firefox favicon.ico
http://www.mavetju.org/unix/favicon.php Shows how to create favicons and hints as to how to get them in the Mozilla menus if they don't work. This should also work for Firefox. Regards, Jill. -Original Message- From: Howard Lowndes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 12 April 2005 4:58 PM To: Mail List - SLUG Subject: [SLUG] Firefox favicon.ico OK, totally cosmetic, but worth the enquiry. How do I get the favicon.ico to appear alongside an entry in the bookmarks toolbar. I have some of them there, but not all, and I know there is a favicon.ico for those that don't appear as clicking on the bookmark brings up the site complete with favicon.ico on the tab, but it still doesn't appear in the bookmarks toolbar. -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates - Your Linux people http://lannet.com.au -- When you just want a system that works, you choose Linux; When you want a system that just works, you choose Microsoft. -- Flatter government, not fatter government; Get rid of the Australian states. -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] running Konqueror as non-root + lan:/ ioslave + illeg al port assignment for NFS
Just a reminder folks that NFS is intended for behind-a-firewall sites; please don't connect it straight to the internet. Cheers, Jill. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 6 April 2005 7:51 AM To: slug@slug.org.au Subject: Re: [SLUG] running Konqueror as non-root + lan:/ ioslave + illegal port assignment for NFS On Wed, Apr 06, 2005 at 12:22:26AM +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote: You can't talk to an NFS server set up like that with any non-root program in a safe and sensible manner. You can, however, set up the server to accept connections from unsafe ports. This is pretty reasonable if it's a read-only share, or you're in a trustable environment... but it's completely unsafe in most circumstances. :-) Using a trusted port as a measure of security is unsafe under almost every circumstance. In effect you are trusting the physical security of the subnet plus every machine on that subnet. Suppose someone clips a laptop (or palm pilot, or wristwatch) to a spare ethernet outlet or jumps onto your wavelan... suddenly they have acess to a trusted port (and a trusted ip too). Just add insecure to the nfs options list on the server. If only there was a secure option... *sigh* - Tel ( http://bespoke.homelinux.net ) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] dealing with compromised machine ?
Just shut the machine down as soon as possible. Even get the local janitor to do it if you can't get to the site. Rebooting it won't help. All processes and software are potentially compromised, including the behaviour of the TCP stack, file mod dates, really everything. The sensible way about it is to have an outage on that machine, and switch over to your alternate server which is patched and up-to-date (ahh hopefully you have one...). Regards, Jill. -Original Message- From: Voytek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 6 April 2005 8:16 AM To: slug@slug.org.au Subject: [SLUG] dealing with compromised machine ? I have a compromised RH73 machine, until such time as I can pull it down, what can I do to identify and shut down any rogue processes/backdoors ? BDC scan identified: BDC/Linux-Console v7.0 (build 2492) (i386) (Dec 11 2003 13:24:00) Copyright (C) 1996-2003 SOFTWIN SRL. All rights reserved. /var/tmp/mremap_pte infected: Linux.OSF.8759 ...(several more) /var/tmp/tlsd.pl infected: Backdoor.Perl.Termapp.A ... * packed with (Upx) * packed with (ExePack 3.69) * packed with (ExePack 3.69) additionally, there was baddies in and below /tmp I've removed all the baddies, but, I expect there will be some open ports ? is there a way to shut them in the interim period till I can get to the machine ? -- Voytek -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Virtual hosting with VMWare
Title: Virtual hosting with VMWare Hi all, I am starting to design a virtual server system for internal work. The one piece of hardware would need to host a couple of RHEL4 virtual servers (one primary, one for application test development - mainly Apache), and possible a couple of Windows servers (for old applications). I'm thinking of using VMWare and not sure what the base host OS should be at this stage (could be RHEL3,4 or even Win2003 just to annoy me). The hardware would need to be able to connect to a FC SAN. I would imagine it would need to be maxed out for RAM to accommodate all the virtual hosts. Dell has some hardware which should be able to do this. Has anyone had any experience with doing something like this? If so, how did you organise installing patches and updates on the base host? On the virtual hosts? How did you find VMWare coped with the varying loads from the virtual hosts, compared with running separate physical hardware? Does adding a TOE (TCP Offload Engine) vastly improve the end-user response time? Happy to hear any comments, Regards, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia Level 2, 55 Mentmore Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484, Fax: (02) 9667-3160 -- -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] Virtual hosting with VMWare
Thanks for that! I see VMWare company is now part of EMC. Since I suspect we are going to be using an EMC SAN system, I think that will be OK. VMWare ESX seems to only support up to RHEL3 as a guest OS. By that I mean officially support, in practice all sorts of things would probably work. OK, lots of reading for me to do! Cheers, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia Level 2, 55 Mentmore Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484, Fax: (02) 9667-3160 -- -Original Message- From: Broun, Bevan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 6 April 2005 11:15 AM To: Rowling, Jill Cc: 'slug@slug.org.au' Subject: Re: [SLUG] Virtual hosting with VMWare Hi Jill We have a few vmware servers but are really we still rampping up. I think you will want vmware esx which installs straight on your hardware. It costs a little more than gsx, an lots more than workstation, but is more efficient. vware's rule of thumb is 4 servers on gsx and 8 on esx. Using either server version allows mulitple admins to work at vmware, creating machines. You can control who stop's and start machines ... You will want a dual cpu system at least. You will probably want to buy the 'VIN' rather than straight esx. It will give you the ablity for your virtual machines to use both CPUs. It also allows some other stuff which is funky but you will need at least 2 vmware server to use it. You need to check vmware's SAN compatablity list. I just got hit with a nasty no linux virtual machines on NetApp cluster. Your ideal world is at list 2 vmware 'VIN's connected to a SAN with the virtual admin console so you can vmotion live machines between system. Have fun. BB -- -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Annodex
Title: Annodex Some information on Annodex which we saw recently; this is a CSIRO blurb: http://www.ict.csiro.au/topic/Apr05.htm#video Cheers, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia Level 2, 55 Mentmore Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484, Fax: (02) 9667-3160 -- -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] AGM - President and Vice President
I'll second Grant's nomination. -Original Message- From: Grant Parnell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 31 March 2005 11:19 AM To: Craige McWhirter Cc: SLUG Subject: Re: [SLUG] AGM - President and Vice President On Wed, 30 Mar 2005, Craige McWhirter wrote: Just an FYI, we're 48 hours from an AGM and we have no nominations for President and Vice President of SLUG. Time to put on your thinking caps folks. If you're interested in standing, now's the time to speak up :) I might as well nominate myself for President then. Quite obviously if successful we'll need another secretary though. C'mon folks get in there and make SLUG what you want it to be! -- ---GRiP--- Electronic Hobbyist, Former Arcadia BBS nut, Occasional nudist, Linux Guru, SLUG Secretary and Presidential Candidate, AUUG and Linux Australia member, Sydney Flashmobber, Tenpin Bowler, BMX rider, Walker, Raver rave music lover, Big kid that refuses to grow up. I'd make a good family pet, take me home today! Some people actually read these things it seems. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] Wall-to-wall Windows
Not crap, just an unfortunate series of events. Here's my take on it: Printing faults crash the Citrix servers. Yes they do crash if they have insufficient memory, Windows or otherwise. They also crash if they are the wrong version or have never been maintained. I've also had problems with a SAMBA system when a device driver was updated on a remote Windows NT server, and the wrong printer driver was used. This comes back to not having any centralised policies regarding Change management. User account policies difficult to control. Yes, and they need to be centralised. This is applicable for any OS, and concerns policy, not technology. They had several Unix / Linux systems doing things, presumably because they were more cost effective than anything else on offer. Note also that this was a merger of three departments, so possibly a few people left in the merger. Again no documentation. Data was spread across multiple system partitions. Again, policy, not technology. No policy means data will always spread to fill a space (like the gas equations). Email and virus complaints - nothing new here. If it's not managed or maintained of course Exchange will fall over. It's the last sentence which is really silly though: one suspects the writer got a guernsey from a certain quarter for that one. My predictions: They will eventually get the thing running, then they will run out of funding for the Windows sysadmins' wages, then the thing will fall over again and they will have to justify the cost of fixing it again. Or they will outsource the lot and wonder why the charges are so high. It's going to be fun when they fill up their disks again. - Jill. -Original Message- From: David Guest [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 17 February 2005 4:31 PM To: GLUG; SLUG Subject: [SLUG] Wall-to-wall Windows Is operating system vilification permited under the NSW anti-vilification laws? http://smh.com.au/articles/2005/02/14/1108229893549.html Really, someone should take the IT section of SMH to task over this sort of crap. David -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] Exporting applications from windows?
Hi all, The way I have seen this done is pretty much the same as the way you do it Windows server to Windows client. I use Citrix mainly, and sometimes Rdesktop. 1) Citrix metaframe: the Linux client is free but the server costs. Exports a whole desktop. Uses a more efficient protocol to transmit than does VNC, so appears quicker. Requires a Windows Application server set up. Good graphical display, limited only by the amount of memory you put in the Windows server. I think in our case the license cost vs. Windows desktop maintenance trade-off was something like 60 people. YMMV. 2) VNC: You need to pay for a Windows CAL for the access, again exports the whole desktop. Tends to run a bit slow over network boundaries, probably too slow for a normal user. 3) Tarantella. Don't know what the cost is, but may be better if you have a lot of things (eg mainframes) to connect to. Haven't tried it. 4) Sun Ray. The windows session is emulated via an intermediate Unix server and the thin client terminal is updated with the display. Uses Citrix or Tarantella to connect to a remote Windows application server. Graphics are good, but needs to be on the same network subnet. 5) Rdesktop. The Linux client is free but the server has to have a Windows Remote Desktop license enabled, plus an extra CAL for the user. Again, exports a whole desktop. This one is a lot easier to setup compared to Citrix, but the display is nowhere near as good. OK for remote maintenance but not really useful for running applications as the graphics gets spotty. Slightly better than using a KVM though! 6) Application available through a Portal, and the user just accesses it with a web browser. Requires something like a Tomcat server, and can involve lots of expensive software licenses. I have seen this run, although the demo application was an Excel Spreadsheet. Not useful for CAD or other graphical software but pretty impressive for ERP applications and other things that can be got running on the Internet. Come to think of it, I think you can run Open Office in server mode so theoretically you could use that to display to the server, and get the server to redirect the display as a web page. No, I have never tried this but it seems possible albeit limited to certain applications. Theoretically will work over WANs and international sites. Cheers, Jill. -Original Message- From: Karl Bowden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 5 February 2005 10:13 PM To: slug-list Subject: Re: [SLUG] Exporting applications from windows? Yeah, I have seen them pop up quite a bit in terminal solutions. Has anybody had any experience with citrix? We already use VNC through the company for remote assistance, and for a few awked situations, but will not help in providing a smooth transition in this situation. I had also been thinking of using win4lin and exporting the win apps over X throught that means. Karl Bowden Ben de Luca wrote: I believe citrix makes this possible but its certainly not free($$$). On 05/02/2005, at 7:08 PM, Karl Bowden wrote: Is it possible to have an application running remotely on a Windows machine but appareing locally on a linux machine? I have been playing arround with rdesktop and a win2k machine. But I have only been able to export a complete desktop. What I am looking for is something more similar to the way X applications can be forwarded over a ssh session. If I am missing something obvious please clip me arround the ears, but a feature like this would much ease the transition to linux at my place of work. Karl Bowden -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses
RE: [SLUG] Dell GX1 Optiplex Wont boot
Hi Peter, Try booting up to the BIOS setups, usually press F1 or F2 or shift-F1 or ctrl F1 or combinations of these during power up (Dell changed them at one stage in about 2003 or 2004, goodness knows why). Then go through the BIOS settings and check that they haven't been set to something stupid like boot over ethernet. The disk head movement and CDROM click is just the disk drives themselves doing a power-on test. They will do that even without a computer connected. You won't get floppy access happening if it has been disabled in the BIOS. Keyboard lights flashing on power-up means the keyboard itself is OK. No Video - that may be a problem; but check the BIOS first as sometimes it doesn't show up until you get into the BIOS settings. HTH - Jill -Original Message- From: Peter Rundle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 23 December 2004 10:42 AM To: slug Subject: [SLUG] Dell GX1 Optiplex Wont boot Sluggers, I've just inherited two Dell Optiplex GX1 400Mhz boxen which are surplus to some corporations requirements because they won't run XP. So obviously we put Linux on them right? Trouble is that they won't boot. I was told that they were perfectly functional and even saw one running before accepting them. Both have exactly the same problem which is that on power on the CPU fan and mother board power up, the disk does a quick head movement and the cd-rom clicks, but then nothing. No video, no disk activity, no floppy access no num lock/caps lock light on the keyboard (though the num caps and scroll lights flash just once on power-on). Tried alternate screens keyboards etc, to no avail. Removed the memory, and they beeb loudly in complaint, but putting it back, reseating the CPU etc, nothing. Tried putting in an alternate PCI video card, but no difference. It seems to be more than a component failure, it's as if the boot sequence is in some sort of disabled state. So something happened to both of them between me picking them up and taking them home, unless my house is in some sort of Optiplex free zone in cyberspace :-( I can't think of anything else that might work. I've looked on the net and it appears that this problem occurs when overclocking them, but I haven't done that. Cluesticks or are they destined for the junk yard? TIA's P. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] Sparc Suse 7.3 install fault
Just out of curiosity, is it trying to install on an unformatted disk? Google finds this: http://lists.linuxpower.org/pipermail/aurora-sparc-user/2003-January/008077. html Regards, Jill. -Original Message- From: Martin Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 21 December 2004 12:42 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: [SLUG] Sparc Suse 7.3 install fault Help anyone I'm trying to install Suse Linux on to a Ultra Enterprise 2 Sun Box can some one help me as I'm new to Sun machines (first time I've installed on one) this is the error I'm getting Neither Yast text nor graphical will start. After drawing the process bar to 100% I get a message box: an error occurred during the installation In a big red box :-O On console 3 I can read: inst_execute_yast:903 command_ti = /var/adm/mount/suse/inst-sys/sbin/inst_setup starting /sbin/Yast inst_execute_yast:921 command_ti =/sbin/Yast yast1 return code is 32512 (errno = 2) sync... ok What's is happing?? Thanks in Advance Martin Thompson Team Leader Riverwood SingTel Optus Pty Limited 26-30 Skinner Ave Riverwood NSW 2210 Telephone: 61 2 9775 6000 Facsimile: 61 2 9775 6010 Mobile: 04 8176 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] networks - Our Customers, Our People, Our Service -- -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] Production Ready software on Linux
Well this comes to mind as the CDs are on my desk :) ModelSim PE/SE says it works on desktops running Linux AMD64, IPF, and x86 compatible (amongst other things). Support contracts available, etc, from Mentor Graphics, http://www.model.com/ for this item. Definitely non-free and commercially recognisable, at least in the electronics design space. But I suspect you are thinking about office software. Really there is a lot of software available if your sales reps just took the time to find out what their customers really wanted rather than trying to push something onto them. Gently invite them to use a search engine, and search for a generic description of the item rather than a brand name. - Jill. -Original Message- From: James Gray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 17 December 2004 11:26 AM To: SLUG Subject: [SLUG] Production Ready software on Linux Hi All, The sales guys have asked me a question. What commercially recognisable software is available AND supported on Linux. They gave MYOB[1] and Star Office. They don't want stuff that runs via emulators (wine etc), or virtual machines (VMWare, BOCHS etc) - they want real, native Linux ELF binaries :) Desktop software is preferred as there is plenty for the backend. Also, little do a single task apps (like Real Player, and Acrobat Reader) aren't really what they're after either. Open/closed source, BSD/GPL/other isn't a factor. So how about it folks? What have you seen/heard of that is offered as a NATIVE Linux app and is commercially produced/supported etc. Any links or publisher's websites would be most beneficial. Cheers, James [1] Word has it they (MYOB) are releasing a native Linux version some time next year. -- When I get real bored, I like to drive downtown and get a great parking spot, then sit in my car and count how many people ask me if I'm leaving. -- Steven Wright -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] Mega X machine spec - ideas?
Yes, a Sun SMP hardware with x86 card(s) might do the job. The main feature would be a very fast TCP stack, with the x86 part handled by the cards. You could always have it looked-at in something like the Sun iForce centre or the Securedata Fishbowl (if they still exist - Securedata got taken over recently I think by Dimension Data). Linux should run OK on the SMP box but I'm not sure if they have ported their x86 processor switching to Linux. Might have to be Solaris. Either way you will need a fair bit of RAM and maybe a couple of SPARC CPUs. Last time I used an x86 offload engine it was pretty slow. Another option is to go Opteron, which will emulate x86. Anyway, talk to them, not to me - I have not dealt with any of the above companies for anything like what you want. Cheers, Jill -- Jill Rowling, System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia Level 2, 55 Mentmore Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 8 December 2004 10:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] Mega X machine spec - ideas? Here's a spec to please the taste buds... I've a customer who has been win4lining for a couple of years with great success. Their setup goes: Windows PC. Cygwin. ssh -XCf -- Linux Box -- /bin/win (win4lin runs on remote box, X forwards back to the Windows PC. They are looking at going from about 15 users to 80 users. This means a machine upgrade of sorts. I was wondering what sort of spec 'intel'-wise you would use to run: 80 users logged on using X windows. Forwarding to Windows PCs via SSH -XCf Those users will all be running win4lin. The windows app is a semi-intensive client/server arrangement that generally requires about 64Mb at least of RAM to run. There is minimal requirement to access disk on that machine. There would be major network traffic happening. I would imagine that 80 ssh sessions would also generate a fair amount of CPU usage. I'm thinking about the dual or quad operton processors from someone like SUN... Has to be x86 unfortunately. Any ideas? Beowolf clusters are not an option TIA Stuart Guthrie -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] powerpoint parsing/converting
There are some automators around, supplied by vendors of Product (Data/Lifecycle) Management systems and Document Management Systems, but they are extremely pricey, with per-annum licenses etc. Most do not run on Linux. You might be better off just leaving them alone (apart from basic virus checking), and just indicate that the file is in ppt. PDF might be a better option for your clients; the Windows users could generate it with cutepdf if they don't have better tools. - Jill. -Original Message- From: Julio Cesar Ody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 7 December 2004 2:15 PM To: slug Subject: Re: [SLUG] powerpoint parsing/converting (answering to the list on purpose) It does. But I need an automated solution. My idea is having a few people uploading their presentations, which will be received by a PHP script, parsed, and converted to SWF. On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 14:04:05 +1100, David Kempe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Julio Cesar Ody wrote: Hi all, is anybody aware of an open source (preferably PHP) tool for parsing and converting Powerpoint (.ppt) files into other formats, such as for example, SWF? I would be happy in having just the parser because I believe I can build the SWF creator using ming. Cheers. doesn't openoffice open ppt and can export to swf? dave -- Julio C. Ody http://rootshell.be/~julioody -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GCS/SS/CC d@ s: a? C++(+++) ULB+++$ P L+++$ !E W++(+++) N+ !o K- !w O- M V- PS+ PE Y+ PGP++(-) t 5 X R+ tv-- b++ DI-- D+ G++ e h r+ y++* --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] another MS workaround
This seems to be an active page, so what you see at any one time seems to change from day to day. The funny suggestion was yesterday, just install firefox. The one about deleting things wasn't there yesterday - Another good reason to say what was funny about the link instead of just posting a random link! (remembering the recent Aust. Idol link issue!) Cheers, Jill. -Original Message- From: Ken Foskey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 24 November 2004 7:29 AM To: slug Subject: Re: [SLUG] another MS workaround On Sat, 2004-11-20 at 16:15 +1100, Kevin Waterson wrote: http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/ProductFeedback/ViewWorkaround.aspx?Feed backID=FDBK10939 well, I laughed Kevin Well I did not. Frankly telling people to destroy their systems and data is NEVER funny. Please read advocacy guides if you need any clarification. This is not aimed at Kevin however we have to stop trying to be funny and be professional or else we will not be taken seriously. -- Ken Foskey OpenOffice.org programmer -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] December meeting - Tenpin Bowling
The assembler ball would be sourced from lots of bits of plastic around the room, would materialise part way down the alley and would pre-assemble its own ten-pins just prior to smashing into them. -Original Message- From: Rod Butcher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 3 November 2004 12:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SLUG] December meeting - Tenpin Bowling The Cobol bowling ball would cause a data exception because the number of holes was redefined as packed decimal by an outsourcer. The Pl/1 bowling ball would disappear into an array of pointers. Rod --- Brought to you by a thunderbird, penguin, gnu and a camel Michael Lake wrote: Grant Parnell wrote: people are away etc. I know many of you would prefer to spend new year's eve at SLUG but we (the committee) think Tenpin Bowling somewhat earlier in the month would be good. I volunteered to organise it. The idea is to have teams of programming languages for example. I guess The Java bowling ball would have an API of holes for left and right handed people and would bowl smoothly on any surface - but it would roll ever sooo slowly down the alley. The Perl ball would have 20 different ways to place your fingers in the holes. The Python ball would be coloured blue. With the C ball you have to allocate the number of holes that you want when you sign out the ball and make sure that you return the ball with the same number of holes at the end of the evening. The Fortran ball would be able to handle having an entire array of balls all send down the alley at once with a single swing. Mike -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] Autofs Woes
This entry in /etc/fstab does automount (eventually), when kudzu gets a round tuit: /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy autonoauto,user,kudzu 0 0 And the permissions are such that end users can write floppies. HTH Jill. -Original Message- From: Craige McWhirter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 2 November 2004 12:26 PM To: SLUG Subject: [SLUG] Autofs Woes -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] Serial to TCP/IP convertor
I bought a Cyclades port monitoring device (TS-400) to do just that, as that is what it does internally using a Linux single board computer. The main thing to watch out for on Solaris SPARC boxes is if the serial port receives a break signal, the Sun box drops into the EEPROM monitor. Other than that, yes you could just monitor the serial port. Regards, Jill. -Original Message- From: Rajnish [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 27 October 2004 5:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] Serial to TCP/IP convertor All, I am looking for a serial port to tcp/ip convertor to run on solaris and linux. Can you point me to a simple process for listening on a serial port and converting data received in it and sending it to clients connecting on its listening port ? Programming guides or any other useful pointers are all welcome. Thanking you in anticipation. Regards, Rajnish -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] data recovery from raid
And your tape backups are ...? (silly question) If you don't want to pay for the expensive recovery work (yes there is a mob in Melbourne that specialises in data recovery -- someone on this list previously said something about $1000 to $5000 per drive), then the next best option is to recover everyone's work from the junk they keep on their own PC hard drives, and all the printouts they like to keep. BTW I think they will need the whole array, not just the two faulty drives, as the 0+1 data is spread with little pairs all over the whole array. After you recover your data, go look at some offsite storage. If it's for business, try http://www.tape.com.au/ and read over http://www.tape.com.au/tms/industry.htm If it's for home, you still need to devise a system to ensure that if your equipment is broken, lost, catches fire or is stolen you can still rebuild it from scratch and load your data back on. Regards, Jill. -Original Message- From: Anth Courtney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 8 October 2004 11:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] data recovery from raid Howzit, One of our raid arrays kicked the bucket over night - 6 drives in a raid 0+1 array, 2 of which have bitten the dust. Can anyone recommend a data recovery company anywhere in Australia who may be able (somehow) to take the disks, work some magic, and recover data from the array? Thanks in advance. cheers, Anth -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] Starting swat spawns multiple instances
Normally swat runs through inetd so if you start it manually like that you will probably have multiple copies running, with some copies served by inetd and others from the startup. I think the installation notes say something about choosing one method or the other, but not both. Try not starting it from either of your methods, and just see if it responds anyway. Cheers, Jill. -Original Message- From: Edwin Humphries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 30 September 2004 10:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] Starting swat spawns multiple instances I'm trying to start swat on a new RH ES 3 install. When I start it (either as service swat start or or as /etc/init.d/swat start) it spawns several copies of swat and many copies of service, swamps RAM and then goes into swap file chaos and locks the machine. Has anyone seen this, or know a fix to it? Regards, Edwin Humphries, Managing Director Mobile: 0419 233 051 Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd P. O. Box 423, Kiama, NSW, 2533 Phone: +61 (0)2 4233 2285 Facsimile: +61 (0)2 4233 2299 Web: http://www.ironstone.com.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] electronic circuit simulation software for linux
For non-free software, have a look at Modelsim (VHDL and HDL): http://www.model.com Most of the non-free circuit simulation software is for Windows or Unix, and is particularly memory/CPU hungry. You may also want to google for Eagle CAD which has some simpler layout software but I don't think it includes simulations. I use Mentor Interconnectix (ICX) for waveform analysis on Solaris. It seems to be only available for Unix and Windows (http://www.mentor.com/highspeed/products/icx/ ) Cheers, Jill. -Original Message- From: Luke (Terry) Vanderfluit [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 17 September 2004 5:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] electronic circuit simulation software for linux Hi, Does anyone know of any electronic circuit simulation software for linux? thanks, Luke -- Luke (Terry) Vanderfluit Mobile: 0421 276 282 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] New website rocks!
Hi all, Yes, I can confirm under IE6 SP1 6.0.2800.1106 the left hand text is not selectable, but I have no probs with that as it shows up fine under view source. Nice site though. Cheers, Jill. -Original Message- From: Paul Robinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 17 September 2004 11:47 AM To: SLUG Cc: linux-aus Subject: Re: [SLUG] New website rocks! Looks great and works fine in Firefox 0.9. Checked it in IE 6 SP1 and I can't click on any link or select text on the left hand half of the front page. Looks like a div is overlaying it. This wouldn't be a problem except the people we're trying to move away from windows would most likely be using IE. (exact version is 6.0.2800.1106 if anyone else can confirm). HTH, Paul Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=Pia Smith http://www.linux.org.au Rock on Australia, Phwoar! Sweet! ROCK ON AUSTRALIA! - Jeff -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] pdf problems with IE and Linux Apache
Most likely the problem is that the full-q URS is 'www.mydomain.tld/path/MYDOC.PDF' When it should be 'http://www.mydomain.tld/path/MYDOC.PDF' The problem is Windows by default attempts SMB connections before http connections unless you specify http. Regards, Jill. -Original Message- From: Voytek Eymont [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 25 August 2004 10:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] pdf problems with IE and Linux Apache perhaps someone might have some ideas: I have transferred a user site from my Apache OS/2 server to Linux Apache 1.3x; it's an HTML/ flash 'static' site. everything is working OK, EXCEPT: the user has several directories with PDFs, these do not have a top level HTML page, just a bunch of PDFs in a directory. he then sends an email containg a full-q url like 'www.mydomain.tld/path/MYDOC.PDF' yes, the file names are mixed case...(don't ask... I even offered to lower case them myself...) anyhow, back to the problem: since I moved the files to the RH Apache: on several of his systems (XP W2K, IE6, Acrobat6), the fully Q URL will not open by clicking; IE offers to download the file, then returns an error 'cannot download, host not found' *but* the url cut'n'pasted into browser works I have tried myself from several windoze: 98/w2k/xp with differing IE. works properly for me; several colleagues have tried from different windoze boxes, works OK I'm happy to email links to anyone who would like to try, though, rather not post them, to prevent search engine indexing see screen shots attached (screen shots deleted from this copy as they exceed 25k limit) suggestions or ideas greatly appreciated... meanwhile, I'll try looking at web logs in case I can see anything -- Voytek -- Voytek -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] pdf problems with IE and Linux Apache
OK, how about user already has IE open and a second IE session will not automatically open. Try killing the first IE session. In my experience, this has been a problem with users on Win2k and possibly WinXP but was never a problem with Win NT (which would blithely open anything). Not sure what versions of IE this applies to: 6 I think. Also, I'm not sure if this is a bug or a feature! IMHO it is a bug, but one could argue that it is a feature as it also stops the OS from running random rubbish. It does this with Windows IIS servers, too, with static PDF files. So what's happened is you have upgraded your servers at the same time as the users have upgraded their desktop OS; the problem is not at your end. The workaround is to get the users to always save the PDF files locally and open them there rather than opening them directly from the server. It will be worse if they have Acrobat authoring tools: the default is to open for writing over SMB and of course that's not available. This is really off topic and you might be better served wandering over to the MS support database and the Adobe help pages. Good luck, Jill. -Original Message- From: Voytek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 26 August 2004 6:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SLUG] pdf problems with IE and Linux Apache sorry, my typo when transcribing mssg, the actual links *is* prefixed with 'http://' quote who=Rowling, Jill Most likely the problem is that the full-q URS is 'www.mydomain.tld/path/MYDOC.PDF' When it should be 'http://www.mydomain.tld/path/MYDOC.PDF' The problem is Windows by default attempts SMB connections before http connections unless you specify http. Regards, Jill. -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] pdf problems with IE and Linux Apache
Also have a look at the Apache error logs, see what they are trying to download (and what protocol they are trying to use). Come to think of it, I can't load files from the internet from this email client either, I have to past the URL into the web browser so I think it might be a feature. Also the formatting may be ruined by the user's email client; from the error message it looked as though it was putting a space in the URL (possibly caused by formatting wraparound). Just check that the URL is appearing on a newline by itself. Some user mail clients remove all newlines and stuff up plain text URLs; that's why the Windows users tend to send in html. Talk about broken! Regards, Jill. -Original Message- From: Voytek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 27 August 2004 3:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SLUG] pdf problems with IE and Linux Apache Jill, *if* I put the files OFF the Linux server on a non-Linux server, the problem goes away, I'm not really sure -- Voytek -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] Talk: Martin Gregory from Microsoft, Thursday August 1 2th
Hi all, Yes, Martin Gregory's talk was interesting, and he is a good speaker. MS speakers never fail to entertain. I mentioned this talk to some technical people at work who use Windows every day, and after the laughter subsided they said what they didn't like about Windows (most of them have also used Linux): 1. The tendency for every application written for a previous version of the Windows OS to break in a different way compared to the current version == Lack of consistency. With Linux, I can mostly run an application that was developed on a slightly earlier version of the OS. With Solaris I can always run an earlier version (I am talking about user land not kernel land). 2. A requirement to re-fix every application that you write because the Win32 APIs for the new version are incompatible with the ones for the old version, in all but the most trivial cases. This is a major PITA for our developers. 3. Everything newly released uses a different UI to the old version. Old hands hate it and try as much as possible to set things back the way they used to. Remember this is a production environment, not a personal (home) work space, with many people trying to use the same applications. The Linux UI is mostly whatever you set your theme to, and the decorations should follow. I don't write Windows apps (well maybe just some .bat and static web pages and do some minor admin on Windows servers) but my main gripes would be: 4. The necessity to upgrade the hardware in order to run the new Windows OS. A couple of years ago I jumpstarted Solaris 8 onto a dual 33 MHz Axil (sparc) pizza box with 256 MB RAM. It actually worked just fine for what I was doing. There is an excellent chance I would be able to get Linux to run on that hardware, but no way would you get Windows XP to run on a 33 MHz Intel system and still be able to use the thing. 5. Apalling memory management, even with Win XP. We use a 3D CAD system. On Unix, one particular feature is just slow (a vendor issue). On Windows, the thing runs fast but then mysteriously crashes. The vendor hasn't ported it to Linux but I keep asking them - they think it's just a matter of time. You might be able get Linux to be that unstable if you run X11 as root with a dodgy driver. 6. Viruses, pop-ups, spyware. This is something that I just don't see in Linux or Unix or MacOSX. Part of the blame is the poor security model (Windows users are not used to logging in as admin to install something). Another part of the blame has to be squarely on the open, trusting nature of most Windows apps (of course you can run this random exe in the middle of your html). The marketing types say it makes things easier for users. Well, I can see this same problem eventually coming to Linux as the desktop apps get richer, so maybe that's something we need to be aware of. Finally, the FREEDOM thing is probably the most valuable part of the whole debate. MS just doesn't get it. IBM is slowly getting it -- it's taken them 20 years to get it. So by 2020 maybe MS will get it. Then again, time might warp and they might get it sooner. OOOh - a pig flew past. Cheers, Jill. -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] Doors and sockets
This link has some interesting diagrams -- seems to be a student exercise in implementing doorfs or doors on Linux or whatever OS the student is running. http://www.math.luc.edu/~ppetrov/CourseWork/CS410_AdvancedOS/Fall_2000/WWW/l ecture8/examples/doors.htm The reason why I was interested is just out of curiosity; the oldish version of Veritas Netbackup I'm running (on Solaris) is a bit chatty about doors and I wondered why there was nothing about it on the Linux box here. I note that the current Solaris implementation has status evolving so it seems to be a newish thing anyway. Cheers, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia Level 2, 55 Mentmore Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] e2label
I thought it wrote something on the physical disk label blocks (not a file as such) for the disk controller to read. Cheers, Jill. -Original Message- From: Luke (Terry) Vanderfluit [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 12 August 2004 11:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] e2label Hi, Adding a new hard drive to an existing system... OK! Adding an entry to /etc/fstab in the form of: /dev/hdb /mnt/storage foo bar etc and so on then using e2label to be able to use a LABEL to refer to a hdd. LABEL=/storage /storage ext3defaults1 2 Somewhere some files must get modified by the 'e2label' command, can anyone tell me which files? What exactly happens when I use e2label? thanks, kind regards, Luke -- Luke (Terry) Vanderfluit Mobile: 0421 276 282 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Doors and sockets
Title: Doors and sockets Hi all, Anyone know if doorfs has been ported to Linux? Or, for that matter, why are doors supposed to be more efficient than sockets? Cheers, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia Level 2, 55 Mentmore Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] looking at vi file in wordpad
Rename the file to something.doc This will force it to be opened with Word. Word will then prompt the user as to how they want to interpret the newlines: as wraparounds or as newlines. Alternatively use dos2unix or unix2dos to convert the newlines to the appropriate characters. - Jill. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 26 July 2004 12:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] looking at vi file in wordpad Dear slugers, I have created a file using vi. When I look at the same file on a windows box with notepad it is loaded as one line and where I expect to have carriage returns i have box looking characters. Can someone tell me how I can replicate these box looking characters on a windows system using wordpad or notepad. i hope this all makes sense. Looking forward to your reply. regards michael -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] RAID-5 array problems
I wonder if it would come up OK if you formatted and partitioned only 40GB of the new disk, and used the other 40GB as a spare logical drive? That is, trick the hardware into thinking it has three 40 GB disks again. I recently had to replace both halves of a mirrored array (RAID-1 on Solaris/SPARC) because I could not buy the same hardware that was originally installed. I wonder if RAID-5 is similar? The only time I've ever heard of different types of disks used in a RAID system is when people make up a RAID-0 stripe from JBOD. Cheers, Jill. -Original Message- From: Chris Henman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 19 July 2004 12:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] RAID-5 array problems Dear All, I have a RAID-5 array consisting of three 40GB disks (ext3) on a machine running Redhat 3.0ES. Recently one of the three disks failed; hdf. All continued happily on two disks. Yeterday I bought some new disks; 3 x 80GBs. I replaced the bad disk with a new one, formated and partioned the new disk and did a raidhotadd. All seemed well, see copy of lsraid -A -a md0. [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# lsraid -A -a /dev/md0 [dev 9, 0] /dev/md0 02EF0419.559F377C.34A1ABA4.2AAE1C59 online [dev 33, 1] /dev/hde102EF0419.559F377C.34A1ABA4.2AAE1C59 good [dev 33, 65] /dev/hdf102EF0419.559F377C.34A1ABA4.2AAE1C59 good [dev 34, 1] /dev/hdg102EF0419.559F377C.34A1ABA4.2AAE1C59 good until I rebooted. hdf was missing. I did another raidhotadd and all was well again. I waited until the disks had completely resynced and tried again. Same result. Below are raidtab and fstab, neither of which have been altered by me. [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]# cat raidtab raiddev /dev/md0 raid-level 5 nr-raid-disks 3 chunk-size 64k persistent-superblock 1 nr-spare-disks 0 device /dev/hde1 raid-disk 0 device /dev/hdf1 raid-disk 1 device /dev/hdg1 raid-disk 2 also, fstab is quite straightforward. [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]# cat fstab LABEL=/ / ext3defaults1 1 LABEL=/boot /boot ext3defaults1 2 none/dev/ptsdevpts gid=5,mode=620 0 0 /dev/md0/home ext3defaults1 2 none/proc procdefaults0 0 none/dev/shmtmpfs defaults0 0 /dev/hda3 swapswapdefaults0 0 /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom udf,iso9660 noauto,owner,kudzu,ro 0 0 /dev/fd0/mnt/floppy auto noauto,owner,kudzu 0 0 Any suggestions as to why? -- Chris Henman RedBox microSystems ABN 70 946 135 312 Phone: +61 2 6161 4640 Mobile: 0421 597 333 Powered by Linux - Democracy in Information Technology. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List -
RE: [SLUG] kvm required
Hi Simon, You might want to get a demo of a KVM before you buy one. My experience so far is the video is pretty low resolution and sometimes ghosty compared to either remote X or other protocols. KVMs are really essential when you have racks of Windows servers that act up and maybe need a console if you are loading CDs or something. I much prefer using a desktop Linux box to remotely access all the other servers most of the time. The KVM just saves me from running between my office and the computer room when accessing the physical hardware. I wouldn't want to work on it all day. Cheers, Jill. -Original Message- From: Lester Cheung [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 15 July 2004 9:07 AM Cc: slug Subject: Re: [SLUG] kvm required On Thu, Jul 15, 2004 at 12:11:42AM +1000, Ken Foskey wrote: On Wed, 2004-07-14 at 23:10, Simon Males wrote: I just need a rant for a KVM. When i im at home i wish to use standard keyboard/mouse and screen which will be shared by my desktop and laptop. The kvm will require USB ports as my laptop cannot take PS2. I've had a quick browse, and kvm's are not exactly cheap :( Why do you want a kvm at all? I use my laptop to 'X -query mydesktop' to connect within my home lan. Works a treat. The alternative is to ssh in with the -x option. Synergy maybe just for you. :) Debian package in proper... -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] Fedora Font Server [Was: X11 Font?]
Just to confuse the issue, CAD packages sometimes use their own defined fonts which are actually icons used in the application. You copy them manually onto the workstation. In my case, the application runs on the (Unix) server and displays to the (Linux) workstation. If you couldn't copy them to the workstation you would have to use the X font server on the Unix server and that would be pretty slow (double redirection and image generation on the server). Cheers, Jill. -Original Message- From: Glen Turner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 13 July 2004 11:49 AM To: Jeff Waugh Cc: Slug Subject: Re: [SLUG] Fedora Font Server [Was: X11 Font?] On Tue, 2004-07-13 at 02:19, Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=Rob Weir Fedora still uses a font server by default? Why? I asked about this a while back. Too much work/churn to change it without a lot of obvious positive impact, I was told. They should blast a can of Free Software monkeys on it or something. Having it distinct might be good for a while longer. I'm still waiting for someone to write a font server which finds fonts via fontconfig rather than fonts.dir files. And, yeah, it would need to convert X font names into PS/TTF font names, but that would be fine. The operational nightmare is having two distinct font finding paths and two distinct font installation procedures. [1] [1] Or more, if you use GhostScript, xpdf and OpenOffice. -- Glen TurnerTel: (08) 8303 3936 Australian Academic Research Network www.aarnet.edu.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] Archival storage
We (Aristocrat) have recently celebrated our 50th anniversary, and some items of interest were archived such as old engineering designs. The material that has lasted so far has included film drawings (onto polycarbonate film with black latex-based ink), and some paper drawings that were stored away from insects and light. No electronic material was preserved in its original form. I do have some work stuff from about 1997 but that has been copied from its original media (floppy disk) to a server, then migrated from server to server over several operating system changes. The problem then is to find an application that can render the information, as the original software is no longer functional on a modern OS. Sometimes 'strings' is all that's left. Some of the best archived stuff on the planet is the most trivial, like tax chits kept for 3000 years on pot shards. You really can't avoid death and taxes. Cheers, Jill. -Original Message- From: Alexander Samad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 1:49 PM Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SLUG] Archival storage -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] ssh client timing out
Is the one that times out a laptop? I seem to remember there are some userland preferences in MacOSX that specify if you want to go into power save after so many minutes (so many is set by the user). The default is 10 minutes. Go into Apple- Preferences (and I think it's under desktop settings but I may be wrong there). Just set it to never time out. I don't think there is anything wrong at the Linux end. Regards, Jill. -Original Message- From: David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 24 May 2004 10:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] ssh client timing out I have a LAN with two OS X boxen logging into a debian woody server running ssh2d. Both are running OS X 10.2.8 but one will time out after about 10 minutes of no activity with the following message: Read from remote host hostname: Connection reset by peer Connection to hostname closed. The other never times out. My user (happens to be my wife) is getting very p**d off with me because I can't fix it. Can someone help me save my marriage? I can't see anything in sshd2_config that would point to the problem, and in any case it only happens for the one specific client. I've googled and can't find any solutions, although others seem to have had the same problem. I can log into the linux box from anywhere else with no problem. The LAN is setup thus: server - switch - os x(doesn't time out) | switch | os x(times out) Could that have anything to do with it? Thanks.. David -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] Spice under Linux (Debian Woody?)
I haven't used spice for an awful long time (was on punch cards) but I have been using IBIS models on Solaris. Where a part was not specified (eg some peculiar connector), I created the SPICE model from first principals, based on the part's geometry, which can then be converted to an IBIS model with a bit of text editing. If the part Q is not present, you might find it under BJT in the library. As the BJT is a pretty fundamental SPICE part, I'd be surprised if it was not present. BTW quite a few manufacturers have IBIS models up on the internet for downloads, especially big things like FPGAs and RAM arrays. Regards, Jill. -Original Message- From: Matthew Palmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, 9 May 2004 5:43 PM To: Slug List Subject: Re: [SLUG] Spice under Linux (Debian Woody?) On Sat, May 08, 2004 at 10:55:48PM +1000, Terry Collins wrote: Is anyone doing any spice stuff under Linux? Under debian woody? Yes. Yes. (Well, not anymore, but I used to hammer it when doing my circuit analysis courses at Uni). If so, what apps are you using? Straight spice3. I taught myself the Spice circuit description language pretty early, and just stuck with that. After some trial and error, I wrote scripts to parse the output from various analysis methods and turn them into nice-looking GNUplot graphs, even to the level of dB gain graphs and stuff. I've been trying to use Oregano as the schmatic, then gnucap as the analysis, but gnucap barfs on Q (Bipolar Junction Transistor = not implemented), so I am rather stuck atm. Nope, no idea. I just drew the schematics using a text editor, ran spice3 in the -b (batch) mode, and then did whatever I needed with the output using various post-processing scripts. Hmm, possible idea for a SLUG talk - if there's at least (say) 10 people who put up their hands and say yes, a talk on Spice and all things nice -20 would be good I'll look at dredging up my hazy recollections and putting something together. At least it'll be useful to demonstrate the power of Unix scripting... grin - Matt -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] Postgresql database replication
There are a few products (non-free) which claim to do what you want. You might have a look at Bakbone and Computer Associates. Veritas also has plug-ins for databases (can't remember if they had Postgres though). Regards, Jill. -Original Message- From: Howard Lowndes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 8 April 2004 11:29 AM To: UnknownMailList-SLUG; UnknownMailList-Oz-ISP Subject: [SLUG] Postgresql database replication Is anyone doing database replication from Postgresql? If so what replication tool are you using, and how do you rate it. rsync is not suitable for this purpose. -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates - Your Linux people http://www.lannetlinux.com -- Flatter government, not fatter government - Get rid of the Australian states. -- To mess up a Linux box, you need to work at it; to mess up your Windows box, you just need to work on it. - Scott Granneman, SecurityFocus -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] Cross platform interpreter invocation
I recently had to handle a similar problem on a cross-platform PERL script. If you can guarantee that your path is correct, i.e. `python` or (in my case) `perl` will run the appropriate interpreter, then you should be able to pass it the path to the script as an argument. In my case, perl /path/to/my/script Worked OK even though the header in my script had #!/wrong/path/to/interpreter. In your case, python /path/to/your/script Should work on all platforms. The -w argument, if required for PERL should be invoked: perl -w /path/to/my/script Hope that helps, - Jill. -Original Message- From: Mary Gardiner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 30 March 2004 1:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] Cross platform interpreter invocation Hi folks, I'm accustomed to starting my various Python and Perl files with: #!/usr/bin/env python or #!/usr/bin/env perl to deal with the situation where the python or perl binary lives in different places on different systems (please don't reply suggesting I just move it or just install Debian or something, some of us still work in archaic environments where we don't have root on servers we use) However, you can't pass arguments to whatever you're invoking, thanks to the limits of the #! interpretion (#!/usr/bin/env perl -w at the top of a file causes a search for a binary named perl -w). What workaround do people use for this problem in general? (I know -w is equivalent to use warnings; so I know the Perl workaround) -Mary -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] Small Business File/Job Management Solution?
Hi Gerard, That sounds similar to something my employer had pre-1999. Then we changed it gradually. The current system uses a variety of CAD software on multiple OS's (optimised according to needs). AutoCAD only works on Windows, for example, so the user has to use Windows. I-Deas 3D runs on several OS (but not Linux). What we ended up doing is putting all Windows-only CAD files on a NAS server, and all the Unix-based CAD databases on a Unix server. Both servers have tape backup locally on robots, and offsite backups via a tape service provider. Files stored locally to PCs or workstations are not backed up; it is up to the user to save their work to the server(s). In the case of the Unix workstations this is automatic. Workflow is fairly rigid to comply with ISO9001 requirements; drawing title block information is entered into a (locally designed) database which uses PHP/MySQL/Apache. Part of the project release procedure involves creating PDF copes of CAD drawings or views. This is placed (manually) on one of the servers and referenced in the database, and cross-referenced to an ERP package manually. The released CAD information is thus available to all staff anywhere in the world, and currently receives about one lookup per minute (from apache logs) from 6:30 am when the local factory starts a shift, through to about 3:30 am when the US office finishes. There are a few manual parts to the process, but the product is so complicated and needs to be checked, that it would be hard to justify automating those processes. We also looked at using Teamcentre, Hummingbird, Tower (now part of another company), Documentum (now part of EMC), Windchill. All very good products which will deeply embed with your CAD systems but you will not get much change out of $1M. If you are really strapped for cash I would suggest getting a nice PC, plenty of hard drive space, put Linux on it, mySQL, Apache, PHP (or mod PERL if you have a programmer), and also think about putting released CAD drawings separate from completed CAD work. Most end users don't know how to drive a CAD system anyway, and often they just want to see a dimensioned drawing. In which case PDF is fine, create an internal web site to display that for you. Then when they really need to modify the design, they can use the DB to get the design files from the archive area and work on them. If you put SAMBA on the Linux box, and setup the user accounts properly, then all users can access their archives as easily as from a Windows server. Of course you don't have two people working on the one design, they only work on parts of it. And there are certainly plenty of lurkers on the list who can create this for you. Hope that helps a bit, Regards, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia Level 2, 55 Mentmore Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Gerard Blacklock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 10 March 2004 10:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] Small Business File/Job Management Solution? Slug, snip A large percentage of our work consists generating CAD drawings and instruction sheets (document type), this results in a large number CAD files and word format files, we have quite a sensible numbering system for each job hence it is relatively easy to find jobs when the job number is known. snip -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic
RE: [SLUG] Graphics Question
It reminds me of a typical robotics imaging problem. Have you tried looking through some of the robot vision lists or projects? (Might even be something already written by students at UNE...:) Regards, Jill. -Original Message- From: Bill Bennett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 17 February 2004 3:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SLUG] Graphics Question =+- =+- I believe that autotrace can do that. Search freshmeat. =+- =+- Erik Well, not with any accuracy. If we're thinking about the same thing, Accutrace was something that came with CorelDraw. It's still there (as Autotrace) and it's still only about 2/10. I couldn't find anything on accutrace in freshmeat. Does anybody know of anything that works a la accutrace? Bill Bennett. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] copyright breaches - multi user platforms
I doubt it. Microsoft's Unix services appear to be BSD-based. They did buy ATT licenses early on and more recently paid SCO (or so we're told) for rights to use certain Unix (or Linux?) components. Of course they may choose later to get a refund from SCO if their purchase was for nothing! But that should not concern us if they want to waste their money. The multi-user environment used by NT/2k/XP appears to still use VMS style scheduling, so no, I don't think it has anything to do with Unix. Not yet anyway. Also Unix was not the first multi-user OS around 20+ years ago. Multi-user has been around in various guises since the 1960's. - Jill. -Original Message- From: Nicholas Tomlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 9 February 2004 8:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] copyright breaches - multi user platforms Hell sluggers.. I note all this affray to do with SCOs claims for breach of copyright by IBM and like Co´s and their imagined inclusion of code in Linux. How do we know they aren´t affiliated with m$ Is anybody going Microsoft for copying the Unix multi user environment with their NT, 2000 server and XP platforms?? I know Unix was first at it, 20 plus years ago when I was at Uni... -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] OT: Computer hardware stores in Syd CBD
Harris can deliver to you ( http://www.ht.com.au ) if you are in a hurry and don't mind the extra delivery cost. Otherwise just go for a walk around Martin Place. Does it have to be that brand? If you just want a hub go into one of the department stores, or walk up George street. - Jill. -Original Message- From: Rajnish Tiwari [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 9 February 2004 12:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] OT: Computer hardware stores in Syd CBD Hi All, Can you give me names of computer hardware stores in Sydney CBD (around Martin place) that may stock netgear hubs/switches ? Need to get one really quickly. Thanking you in anticipation. Regards, Rajnish -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Knoppix 3.3 CD
Title: Knoppix 3.3 CD Hi all, Out of curiosity I booted my home PC with a new Knoppix 3.3 CD ... but no luck this time. It died with a kernel panic as it doesn't know about the SCSI system I think, Adaptec 29160 controller iirc. This is the first time I've ever had a Knoppix fail on me: usually they are the best distro to see if the hardware works with Linux. Mind you the CD was a freebie so I don't even know if it as a proper ISO on it... but it went through most of the motions of loading various drivers. It would probably work if I manually specified all the hardware. Anyone else tried this distro on SCSI X86 hardware? Regards, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia Level 2, 55 Mentmore Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] Knoppix 3.3 CD
The freebie comment refers to I don't know if the person who created the CD actually checked to see if all the CD was written. No reflection on license or software quality or anything else. Yes, there was the option of a boot prompt and no doubt I could load all the modules at that stage. The distro gives you the option to just load anything that it thinks of or completely customising everything from the modules upwards. The machine's usual boot (Debian) is fine as all modules have been specified correctly; I was just interested that this particular machine was not as easy to auto-configure for Knoppix compared to (say) Mum's old PC. BTW with the previous version of Knoppix, Mum's machine was able to be transformed from being slow on that other OS to a very fast Knoppix system. And when she wanted to use the other OS again, it was simply a matter of reboot and eject the CD. That's what I particularly like about Knoppix -- doesn't scare the users too much. Cheers, Jill. -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] web-script
I assume you have two ethernet cards. Otherwise this becomes a comical situation: The machine can't up its network interface because the http side of things isn't running because the NIC is down... :) If you don't have two network cards, then you may want to use something like a cyclades box or a KVM, depending on how far away you are from the box. If you do have two ethernet cards, then your suggestion makes more sense and something like Webmin might be suitable. Cheers, Jill. -Original Message- From: Trevor Tregoweth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 22 December 2003 11:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] web-script Hi All was wondering if someone could give me a little help, i want to be able to run commands from a web interface on a Linux (redhat 9) machine. what i would like is a start / stop link on a web page to run sat the following eg../etc/rc.d/init.d/network start Thanks Trevor Tregoweth -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Java Runtime and Mozilla
Title: Java Runtime and Mozilla Hi all, I've been trying to get some Java apps to display with Mozilla but it's not happening. The system is x86 (Dell), Red Hat 8 distro, fairly vanilla. I've loaded the Sun Java run time (j2re-1.4.2_03-fcs as an RPM) which has installed itself OK. Mozilla is Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020830, build 2002083014 And has java enabled in preferences. I've added this to my .bashrc: JAVAHOME=/usr/java NPX_PLUGIN_PATH=$JAVAHOME/j2re1.4.2_03/plugin/i386/ns4 export JAVAHOME export NPX_PLUGIN_PATH These values are active: ls $NPX_PLUGIN_PATH libjavaplugin.so But when I run Mozilla to look at a java application, either on this machine (in the installed samples) or a remote machine's live application, Mozilla displays an icon like a jigsaw puzzle piece and an error popup like this: This page contains information of a type (application/x-java-vm) that can only be viewed with the appropriate Plug-in Do I have to add all the java .so's to the Mime types (if so, which ones would be appropriate?) or do I also have to install the Java compilers etc.? Or is this version of Mozilla too old? (The remote java app is only partially viewable in Win2k/Citrix but that's a different problem; I figured if the local application doesn't work at all then there's something I have to fix. The local (to Linux) application is the Sun Java dashboard that comes with the RPM. It should at least load something.). Regards, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia Level 2, 55 Mentmore Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] SCSI termination and 80 pin devices
By Enclosures are they referring to the things that drives sit in to allow them to be hot pluggable (eg Sun RAID enclosures)? I think you need the hardware notes for your controller. I had to read mine about 3 or 4 times before it made sense (referring to a home system). You might want to download the service manual for your drive; once I did that and read it, it all made a lot more sense. Regards, Jill. -Original Message- From: Andy Eager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 18 December 2003 9:11 PM To: Slug list Subject: [SLUG] SCSI termination and 80 pin devices Hi all, I've got an interesting question regarding SCSI bus termination and newer 80 pin devices. I have: 1 x Adaptec 2100S RAID controller 2 x 36 GB 80 pin SCSI drives hot-plug boxes. I have done a lot with SCSI over the years, and it was my understanding that the SCSI bus must be terminated at both ends. The controller (normally) handles one end and the other with either active or passive terminators. (on the disk or the bus) I had some problems with the configuration and when querying Adaptec, they came back and said: If you do have drive enclosures, note that you cannot use the Adaptec supplied cable with the card. This cable has terminating resistor built-in and cannot be used on hard-drive enclosures. Basically, you do not want to use terminated cable under any circumstances if you have drive enclosures or back plane. Anyone familiar with this? Are drive enclosures 'auto terminating' now? TIA Andy -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] Java Runtime and Mozilla
HTML? Sorry... Oops. Context-sensitive mail client seems to default to that at times when I cut paste things... I need to watch that. OK I have changed the $NPX_PLUGIN_PATH environment to be /usr/java/j2re1.4.2_03/plugin/i386/ns610-gcc32 to match `gcc -v`. I've read the docs but I think I'm missing something basic about where Moz puts its things. There seems to be several places for plugins to be registered, for example the Shockwave plugin (installed as an RPM) is generic for all users and is in the about plugins list whereas user-specified plugins are not; they are stored elsewhere. Also I thought Plugins did not need the user to specify a MIME type, and MIME types were not the same as filename extensions, but the Netscape documentation (to which the Moz AboutPlugins refers) suggests otherwise. I've put simlinks in to /usr/java/j2re1.4.2_03/plugin/i386/ns610-gcc32 in everywhere there is a plugins directory (this is just in case the env variable is not being read) but still no good. I might give it a break for a while and will come back to it later. And thanks, Stu for the other URL - I'll do some reading. Server-side stuff seems a lot easier than personal desktop stuff! Cheers, Jill. -Original Message- From: Dave Airlie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 19 December 2003 10:27 AM To: Rowling, Jill Cc: Sydney Linux User Group Subject: Re: [SLUG] Java Runtime and Mozilla please kill the HTML mail.. I wondered why it was 12k Anyhoo, ns4 is most certinaly the wrong directory I'm no sure with your java runtime what is correct it could be ns600 or ns610 or something like about:plugins in Mozilla is your friend :-) also if you are using RH8.0 the plugin will probably need to be compiled with gcc 3.2 so that might be in a separate dir as well.. Dave. -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] OT:24VDC PC UPS
There was a company in your area (Holroyd) that used to sell solar energy systems for farms. They used a 24V DC system and had a few useful computer power supplies. I remember contacting them in the mid 1990's for a mobile product distributor that ran their trucks on 24V DC. I think we ended up using their 24V to 240V converter, so one could use a conventional PC power adapter. The main problem was ruggedising the PCs and things for on-road use. Look in the yellow pages for Solar Energy (would you believe). Regards, Jill. -Original Message- From: Ulung Gurtala [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 23 October 2003 3:28 PM To: SLUG Sydney Linux User Group Subject: [SLUG] OT:24VDC PC UPS This is slighltly off topic but I'm sure someone have come across a similar problem and have a solution for it. I have a 24vDC PC thats going in a truck. I want to ensure there is a reliable power supply and ensure that if the power is interupted the pc will not shutdown. I can source a 24v Battery with enough juice to run the pc for 15 min when the truck ignition is off. What Iam unsure of is the wirring and other electronic gear to ensure that whilst the truck is going (running) it is using a regulated 24v of the trucks electrical system and trickle charging the battery if it is not fully charged and if the truck ignition is off it uses the batteries and allows the users to shut the system down gracefully. Any help is appreciated. Cheers -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Error Messages - Hardware Issue
Just as a guess, possibly there is a hardware fault on the disk at SCSI 0 and the controller is automatically correcting the one-bit parity error. The earlier shutdown would have occurred when there was more than one bit in error. The eth0 error may be a timeout due to the first fault, as you say. If you have a spare disk, it might be time to swap it out. Of course it is probably the main system disk and you didn't really want to keep the machine offline ... :) Time to do a surface scan of the media, I think. Also if it's only one year you might check your hardware warranties. Some of the newer disks are guaranteed for three years. If a surface scan does not show up anything, you might have a controller fault. You can always try re-seating the card and connectors (actually you might want to do that first before the media test). Regards, Jill. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 23 October 2003 10:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] Error Messages - Hardware Issue Hi Sluggers, Last night a server died, and on reboot there are the following error messages that constantly appear in the log: eth0: Too much work at interrupt, IntrStatus=0x0001. Oct 23 10:01:25 rrserver kernel: scsi0: PCI error Interrupt at seqaddr = 0x8 Oct 23 10:01:25 rrserver kernel: scsi0: Data Parity Error Detected during address or write data phase The eth0 error doesn't happen as often as the scsi error, I think it only happens when someone tries to remotely connect to the server. The scsi error happens every 30 seconds or so, I guess this is becuase it has a scsi hard drive. Output of lspci: 00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8367 [KT266] 00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8367 [KT266 AGP] 00:05.0 Multimedia audio controller: C-Media Electronics Inc CM8738 (rev 10) 00:09.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 50) 00:09.1 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 50) 00:09.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 51) 00:0c.0 VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. 86c764/765 [Trio32/64/64V+] (rev 44) 00:0d.0 SCSI storage controller: Adaptec AIC-7892A U160/m (rev 02) 00:0f.0 Ethernet controller: D-Link System Inc RTL8139 Ethernet (rev 10) 00:11.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233A ISA Bridge 00:11.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. Bus Master IDE (rev 06) 00:11.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 23) 00:11.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 23) This machine has been running for nearly a year flawlessly, no recent changes, and it is not connected to the internet, so this is why I think its a hardware issue - But where? Any suggestions appreciated. Thanks, Scott -- Scott Ragen Support Manager/IT Administrator Roadtech Systems www.roadtech.com.au PH: +61 2 9807 3516 FAX: +61 2 9808 5294 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] installing ps2 mouse
I think you'll find the mouse settings are done in the hardware/firmware. If the machine has an OpenBoot PROM, the mouse is set there. The PROM software can scan for hardware (or you might have to boot -r iirc) but if you have the Sun type 5 keyboard plugged in, the mouse circuit goes through that. I think you will either have to ditch the Sun keyboard entirely (which includes the mouse) and put in another one. I think there was an PC style optical mouse available for the Ultra 10 and I think they used a different keyboard. You might try looking at the hardware manuals (download PDF) on docs.sun.com, see how they used to ship for the Ultra 5/10. Regards, Jill. -Original Message- From: Amanda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 6 October 2003 4:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] installing ps2 mouse The hardware is an opentec clone of a Sun Ultra 10, with a sun type 5 keyboard sun mouse. The machine also has 2 ps2 sockets for keyboard mouse. The OS is Debian-sparc 3.0 r1. What I want to do is replace the crappy, worn-out sun mouse with a nice new optical ps2 wheel mouse. Running od -x /dev/sunmouse outputs nice hexadecimal when I move the sun mouse. Running od -x /dev/psaux returns no such device. cd /dev; ./MAKEDEV psaux returns don't know how to make device psaux rm psaux; mknod -m 600 psaux c 10 1 doesn't return any errors but od -x /dev/psaux still returns no such device The kernel is 2.4.18. I downloaded the kernel source for 2.4.22 and went through make xconfig, but I can't see any options particularly appropriate for enabling ps2 mice. dmesg returns, amongst other things mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice I tried posting this question to the debian-sparc list, which is where I learnt about the od command, and I've googled myself silly, but I'm obviously missing something. If someone could please point me in the right direction, I'd be really grateful. Amanda -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Debian and Athlon SCSI system - final summary
Hi all, I can't find the original post to this topic - I think the subject was obscure. In any case, people may be interested to know how this home system was finally reconfigured. I have no idea as to how the typical Ma and Pa crowd would have solved this one... Hardware: AMD Athlon irongate chipset with American Megatrends BIOS and SCSI subsystem, 9GB Seagate. Older style DVD ROM reader, DDS3 tape drive, IDE floppy. Originally configured with SuSE 7.2 The problem: out-of-date software and full hard disk due to need to store lots of images (rock slides and sample photos for geology thesis) Hardware purchased: New SCSI drive, 72 GB Maxtor DVDs for Debian system. Later obtained CDROMs of same because of installation problems with DVD (but may have been SCSI problems - see below). The hardware was installed OK and the OS installed OK but would not boot -- could not find init. After a couple of days of fussing around, this was the solution: 1. Download disk drive manuals and information regarding SCSI ID selection as the different drives had different settings. 2. Jumper the original Seagate disk to SCSI ID 1. Controller is SCSI ID 7, other devices were noted in BIOS settings. 3. Remove the factory jumpers from the new Maxtor disk; they are factory-configured to SCSI ID 6 which is internally jumpered (not the standard interconnect). This information is in the service manual for the drive, downloaded from the manufacturer's website. 4. Re-mount the hardware. 5. Change the BIOS settings to boot off device 0. Although the Americal Megatrends BIOS allowed you to boot from device 6, the software did not actually select this device. I think this is a BIOS fault. 6. Noted the logical device names are now sda (for device 0) and sdb (device 1). 7. Partition sda with a small boot partition. This was essential for this BIOS. For these large drives, boot has to be 8MB as that is only one cylinder. Format it ext2 as the boot loader for some reason can't read ext3. The remainder of the disk can be ext3 or whatever. I partitioned swap, /var, /tmp and / (a large partition). 8. The rest of the configuration was straightforward as per the Debian documentation. The system is now up and running, and the second (original) hard disk is mounted as Reiserfs with the primary HDD as ext3. Regards to all, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia Level 2, 55 Mentmore Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] linux on ibook
The main items I see with running a dual boot system (if that's what you are thinking of doing) are: Do you want to transfer software between the two systems? If so, I think you need to create a small partition specifically for the transfers. MacOS X can't read EXT3 and I'm not sure if Linux can read HFS(?sp?) properly. There seem to be some issues with Debian's power management. This is probably not an issue with the desktop Apple models, but may still be an issue with the laptops. The initialisation sequence for Debian X11 on the LCD occasionally goes awry. The standard fix is to shut down X11 and restart it. If you are doing a dual boot, the MacOS X major system upgrades can sometimes confuse themselves and you may have to re-install Linux afterwards. Just keep everything backed up somewhere. Other than that it looks very good and performs well (on the Tibook). Cheers, Jill. -Original Message- From: Adam Hewitt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 28 August 2003 11:25 AM To: PLUG Cc: SLUG Subject: [SLUG] linux on ibook Hi All, I got myself an ibook about 6 or 7 weeks ago and although originally I was thinking why would anyone want to install linux in this when OS X is so cool, and you can run X11 with Fink?...I am beginning to feel myself being slowly drawn to install linux on it, like a fly to a bug zapper...its so mesmorizing... My question is has anyone compared YDL with a debianPPC install and what kind of results did you get? At heart I am a great debian fan, I run debian on my PC at work, my two servers at home and my desktop at home (although not for long...I need my games :( )...but the though of installing a distro that was made for my ibook has me interested (that and the fact that it comes with apt-rpm installed and configured by default aparently)... Any comments? Adam. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Vendor demonstrations at SLUG meetings - what do you think?
I would like to see demos. I can think of a few vendors that have products of interest. The main thing I would like to see is the product was running Linux. Not just FOSS, as that can cover a multitude of items. Examples: (some of these obviously would have to be a graphical presentation rather than a demo) The Beowulf cluster of Sony Playstations; Sun LX50s (or whatever is replacing them); IBM mainframes running lots of Linux images Software vendors who are keen to announce the port of their application to Linux; Cyclades devices; Firewalls - in - a - box (running Linux) ... Cheers, Jill. -Original Message- From: Jeff Waugh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 28 August 2003 5:12 PM To: Penguinillas Subject: [SLUG] Vendor demonstrations at SLUG meetings - what do you think? Hey gang, So, every now and then, a hardware or software vendor asks us if we'd be interested in a demo of their product at our SLUG meetings. Unfortunately, most of these requests are wildly out of scope, but sometimes there are really cool ones, like the Sony Playstation development kit demo. We didn't want to pass that one up. Very on topic, very cool. :-) Assuming the following points: * A vendor demo would almost always replace one of our talks; very rarely would they be speedy ten minute jobs (and if they were, it's more than likely that they'd just be uninformative ads, so would not be very interesting anyway) * We'd only accept FOSS-related or otherwise on topic demos * We'd encourage a technical and/or community focus, rather than a marketing or advertising focus, so hopefully the demo would feel just like a normal SLUG talk anyway (the Sony one was pretty good in this respect) How does everyone feel about having more regular demos such as these? Should we actively seek demos of cool products that SLUGgers are interested in? Let us know what you think! Thanks, - Jeff -- linux.conf.au 2004: Adelaide, Australia http://lca2004.linux.org.au/ Python amazes me for its concision. The current prototype is all of 900 lines of code, yet it contains a lexer, parser (recursive descent), core language interpreter, and parallelizing process spawner. - Raph Levien on Rebar -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Linux and the future?
Yes, that may well be the case. Different distro manufacturers do deals with various non-free suppliers so you may find some extra goodies in the more expensive distros that you might otherwise not get. For example, they may sometimes bundle any of the following extra items in with it: Oracle developer IBM's DB2 Sun's Star Office Etc Then again you can sometimes get hold of these items separately with promotions. Regards, Jill. -Original Message- From: Dan Banyard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 18 August 2003 6:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SLUG] Linux and the future? Thanks for the replies. I understand the larger costs are associated with the support contracts. I have done further investigation and the latest versions of SuSE Professional are shipped without any server applications (8.2). So it would seem that it is not possible to get the SLES OS without the expensive support contracts??? Redhat seem to have done things a little differently with their three different levels of Enterprise server (mentioned below). So I reckon RedHat ES is the one for me cheers dan -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Linux and the future?
I think those prices for RedHat (read the fine print) are for a certain number of hours of support contract. The basic Red Hat system is about $39.95 with no support whatsoever. With the SuSE boxed set, again you get a certain amount of support from their support centre, and again you can get just the CDs with no support for a low cost. If your company has its own IT support, there is probably no reason to supplement it with pre-paid support. However if you were embarking on a new installation for your company, and you actually needed that support line, then you might weigh up that cost against hiring someone to do the same thing. It's a business decision - in both cases you get the same physical software. You can buy the books separately if you like. I found the information in the boxed set SuSE helpful for a first time, however the on line help with the standard CD distro is pretty easy to follow. I've been reading the Debian READMEs and they seem pretty straightforward, too, for something with no apparent support (yeah, and a cast of thousands...). So I think it depends on your experience. Probably for a business you would want to have a separate new machine setup for the upgrade, get everything working on that, then swap it over with the present live system. In business, it is a bad idea to just rely on one computer and hope an upgrade works. Doesn't matter if it's Linux or Windows or whatever. Business continuity comes first. Regards, Jill. -Original Message- From: Dan Banyard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 18 August 2003 10:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] Linux and the future? Hi, I would like to try and get some opinion on the future of Linux. I have been using SuSE Linux for over 3 years now for my business. I am currently configuring a new server on which I will host my web server, email and other vital components. I am happy with SuSE (I currently use v7.2) and have been looking into the latest version. I am now confused as to what SuSE (and RedHat) are offering as they both seem to have moved to either a desktop version for home use (pricing in at around $120 for the box set) or an Enterprise version for business use (pricing in at around $4500). I have been reading through the marketing type blurb on their websites and from what I can tell if you have a business critical system the only choice is to purchase the Enterprise grade system. So I am faced with the decision of the standard version SuSE or the Enterprise version and the enormous price difference. I have technology/software based company which is not an enterprise level business with massive IT budgets for software - but I do not want have my business system supported on a desktop product. Where does a small business go? Surely this is not the future for Linux as wasn't this the whole point of Linux in the first place? It would be great to get some comments from anyone out there? Regards. Dan -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] recursively change file permissions not directories
The sequence find . -exec seems safe enough though.
I suspect it just uses the inode numbers rather than the file name or
something (but beware this is on Solaris ;)
bash-2.05$ find thingy -type f -exec file {} \;
thingy/one/this:empty file
thingy/two/; file thingy: empty file
thingy/three/that: empty file
bash-2.05$ ls -lR thingy
thingy:
total 6
drwxrwxr-x 2 rowling staff512 Aug 12 17:22 one
drwxrwxr-x 2 rowling staff512 Aug 12 17:22 three
drwxrwxr-x 2 rowling staff512 Aug 12 17:22 two
thingy/one:
total 0
-rw-rw-r-- 1 rowling staff 0 Aug 12 17:22 this
thingy/three:
total 0
-rw-rw-r-- 1 rowling staff 0 Aug 12 17:22 that
thingy/two:
total 0
-rw-rw-r-- 1 rowling staff 0 Aug 12 17:22 ; file thingy
bash-2.05$
- Jill
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-Original Message-
From: Andrew McNaughton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 12 August 2003 5:08 PM
To: Norman Gaywood
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Ram Smith
Subject: Re: [SLUG] recursively change file permissions not directories
On Tue, 12 Aug 2003, Norman Gaywood wrote:
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 12:50:01 +1000
From: Norman Gaywood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Ram Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [SLUG] recursively change file permissions not
directories
On Tue, Aug 12, 2003 at 11:32:06AM +1000, Ram Smith wrote:
I have a shared directory structure where alot of the files in each
directory have permisions of 644 I wanting to change it so that the
files are chmod 664 letting all users in the group read and write to
the data. without nuking the permissions on the directories along
with the files.
The way to do this properly, as others are showing, is with a:
find . -type f | xargs chmod 644
This is not doing things properly and is highly dangerous. eg:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] touch ;chmod u+sx
[ some time later ]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] find . -type f | xargs chmod 644
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RE: [SLUG] recursively change file permissions not directories
Hehehe I have yet to find that limit here (E250s and V880). But on a big list like searching the entire SMB-shared systems for the odd mad Windows virus file (I won't go into HOW that happened), I just set it going and do something else. The find seems to sit on one CPU whereas the other CPUs in the box seem to take the other jobs. I guess that's what SMP hardware can do for you: it lets you run sloppy software and get away with it! Regards, Jill. -Original Message- From: Tony Green [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 12 August 2003 5:36 PM To: Rowling, Jill Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SLUG] recursively change file permissions not directories On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 17:27, Rowling, Jill wrote: The sequence find . -exec seems safe enough though. I suspect it just uses the inode numbers rather than the file name or something (but beware this is on Solaris ;) Very true if you're not working with a large list. Doing it this way, you'll have a command spawned for each file find finds, where as xargs will fit as many files into one command as possible. You won't notice a difference on a small list, but on a big one it takes much more time/resources to use the -exec option -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] basename files and paths with embedded spaces
Hmm I'd say mostly because it used not to have to. Indeed it would break quite a few things. The standard separator for command line parameters, for example, is the space character. The usual way of parsing is to break up the parameters based on the number of spaces so things like $1 $2 $3 work in shell scripts. I suspect in order to stay posix compliant (i.e. not break earlier software) you would have to either use quoted strings when referring to files with spaces, or do what MacOSX does and use the backslash symbol before the space. While we are on that topic, I would imagine if you supported UTF8 / i8n then the space problem kind of goes away because all filenames then become somewhat unprintable. Regards, Jill. -Original Message- From: Stuart Guthrie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 7 August 2003 9:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] basename files and paths with embedded spaces Bug or feature: I'm wondering why the standard basename and dirname commands in gnu do not handle spaces in file names and paths. I guess there is a good reason why we need to code around it - ie it would break lots of other stuff to fix it. Question: Is there any /bin/sh script out there that handles this? Googling has so far been fruitless. Looks like I might have to bsh it. Stu -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] can't write superblock when unmounting SMB share
Possibly share_images is mounted read-only or if it's a share on another machine, it's not allowed to write. Root on one machine is just Joe Hickey on the other. On the machine that has the physical disk, you probably need to set the share rwx for all. If the machine that has the physical disk is a Windoze thing you might want to let user root to have the same privileges as an admin user on the Windoze thing. If it's a Unix of some sort, you would need to enable root user in the fstab entry for that share. Regards, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia Level 2, 55 Mentmore Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Douglas Stalker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 30 July 2003 1:22 PM To: Brett Fenton Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SLUG] can't write superblock when unmounting SMB share On Tue, 2003-07-29 at 20:48, Douglas Stalker wrote: RedHat 9.0, SAMBA 3.0.0beta3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] pristic01]# umount share_images umount: share_images: can't write superblock umount -l ? This shows the same problem. even combining -l with -f fails to unmount the share. - Doug -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] samba and large files
I had a quick look on the mailing list archive http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/ (search for SAMBA) They were waffling about terabytes of data so I don't think it's a Samba issue. I suspect you need to have large file support set on you backup software and some other utilities such as ls. The Win2k server seems to be doing what it is supposed to :) and the debian box is just obliging. The ls command may be getting confused with the large file, but dir is just doing what SAMBA is telling it. 4GB is trivial for an exchange database, BTW. They can grow into the hundreds of GB if you let them. Is your version of 'ls' compiled with largefile support? (file 2GB) Regards, Jill. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 22 July 2003 4:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] samba and large files Hey sluggers, I have a drive from a win2k server mounted on a debian box. I am using smbfs 2.2.3 (standard woody versin. The problem I have is that the file from this exchange server appears waaay too massive: the output of ls on the mounted share: -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 18446744073417531392 Jul 22 15:17 priv1.edb -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 1151344640 Jul 22 07:46 priv1.stm -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 54534144 Jul 20 04:23 pub1.edb -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 69214208 Jul 20 04:23 pub1.stm (output of dir in the mdbdata folder locally on the server) 22/07/2003 03:17p 4,002,947,072 priv1.edb 22/07/2003 07:46a 1,151,344,640 priv1.stm 20/07/2003 04:23a 54,534,144 pub1.edb 20/07/2003 04:23a 69,214,208 pub1.stm I am trying to copy these files around the network as a bit of a backup (after stopping the exchange service) and I can't get this to work nicely while samba reports the file size as so massive. I have other exchange files stores that are large but not this large - is there a limit to the size of file samba can handle? thanks dave -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Remote desktop
Title: Remote desktop Hi all, If I have an X terminal (ancient Red Hat thing with Gnome and Enlightenment) and another Linux system (SuSe thing with KDE), how would you suggest I get the SuSe desktop to appear on the X terminal? I presume you have to do something like ssh into the SuSe thing with some parameter to say where to put the display? (Other than using VNC). I can of course run any individual X application and display it on the X terminal but what about the desktop app itself? Regards, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia Level 2, 55 Mentmore Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Remote desktop
Hi all, Remember I did say not using VNC - this is because VNC cannot be loaded onto the X terminal. Not enough resources, shall we say (9 bit colour, 32 MB RAM). So VNC is not an option. I gather that you have to run xdm before you run X11 on the X terminal, and let it start X with a chooser. That aspect isn't clear from the documentation. I will experiment a little at home some more. Just out of curiosity I tried running a Solaris dtsession redisplayed to a Red Hat Linux X session but it was not entirely satisfactory -- running the individual applications was better as Gnome positions things better when it has full control of the desktop (funny bout that). -Original Message- From: Dave Airlie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 22 July 2003 2:12 PM To: Andrew McNaughton Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Binh Nguyen Subject: Re: [SLUG] Remote desktop Right. Pass port 5901 through for display remotehost:1, 5902 for :2, and so forth. ssh -L5901:remotehost:5901 [EMAIL PROTECTED] then make a vnc connection to localhost:1 and you get the vnc server running on display :1 on the remote host. you might also specify encodings when doing this.. as when vnc sees localhost it goes wow fast connection.. and tries raw.. Dave. -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] apt-rpm
Hi Adam, I had terrible problems upgrading an old RH version due to all the changes in the RPM database. You might be better off backing up all the data, and assume that all the executables will break! The database change happened in RH7 I think. Maybe keep a full backup and be prepared to re-install it if the upgrade doesn't. Regards, Jill. -Original Message- From: Adam Hewitt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 22 July 2003 2:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] apt-rpm Hi All, If you have a RH 6.2 machine, can you use apt-rpm to upgrade it to RH 9.0? or can you only update it to the latest 6.2 packages? If you can upgrade it to 9.0, is there anything you need to watch out for that may kill the system? Cheers, Adam. PS. Yes I am in Perth now, but I just love the SLUG crowd, so I hope you dont mind if I keep posting here...;) -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Linux featured at IBM conference
Title: Linux featured at IBM conference Hi all, I received this brochure the other week: There is an IBM conference coming up; Linux is featured (amongst other things). It's not free but here is the web page for the conference for those interested. Click on the grid link to view the whole seminar and sessions. http://www.interaction.com.au/pages/conference.html Regards, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia Level 2, 55 Mentmore Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Samba / Linux User administration and Authenticationand desktops.
Hi Ron, Some suggestions, assuming they're gonna be stuck with Windows: 1) Login password ageing can be set on the Windows administrative side. I don't know how this is done but for the end user it has the same effect as the Unix password ageing. You can set minimum number of characters, etc. If the Unix/Linux system running SAMBA is permitted to be part of the Windows Domain, the passwords can be automatically updated. That means SAMBA has to be able to update /etc/passwd or whatever you are using for your user account management. There are some details in the SAMBA troubleshooting guide as well as the manual. 2) Sharing correct drive mappings has to be done on the Windows authentication / startup side - get the Windows administrator to set up some mapping scripts to do this, park them on a generally accessible system -- usually they are .bat scripts. I have set up SAMBA to share out the user's Unix home directory privately to that user; this is a nicer touch than making them all wide open. 3) This can be done again on the Windows administrative side, but the Windows admin needs to set up roaming profiles. They might have to buy some licenses for this. Apparently roaming profiles are a PITA to set up. 4) Yes. That will happen if the above items are set up. The thing to do on the Windows side is to make sure they don't have admin rights on the PCs. You can do it all with thin clients but if they are intending to run some high bandwidth thing like head office sends this video clip of how to do whatever, then you are stuck. Assuming that's not the case, I have a Linux system setup here with Citrix Metaframe; I can use all my X11 apps by telnetting or ssh-ing to the appropriate Unix system, and I can access any of my Windows apps through the fit client. The Sunrays will do this too, but maybe not CAD or high bandwidth apps. Regards, Jill. -Original Message- From: Ron Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 23 June 2003 12:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] Samba / Linux User administration and Authenticationand desktops. We have a Samba server sharing drives and printers to my PC users in a network. The difficulty we currently face is the (soon to be) burgeoning number of users that move from PC to PC and need to have their own desktop's with their own network drives and printer shares, at each of the PC's to which they move. The PC's are running windows XP or Windows 2000. My PC guy tells me that if we installed a Windows 2000 server with domains we would be able to authenticate them onto the network using this Windows 2000 server, and also control their user profiles and desktops at each of the machines. I have a strong (at times irrational) aversion to Windows 2000 servers. What we would really like is for Samba and Solaris, or even Linux, to : 1) Authenticate the users and force them to change their passwords according to an expiry period, no matter which PC they log into 2) Share the correct drive mappings based on the user id they log into from the PC, not the PC machine name. 3) Allow their own private desktop's to appear no matter which PC they log into. 4) They need to run two MS-based applications. Sounds like a job for thin clients or something. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG -
RE: [SLUG] server crash - incorrect iptables config possible cause.
Unlikely to be anything you did to the software. Most *ix-like operating systems (including Linux) rely entirely on the hardware being in good condition. If you have faulty hardware, you can get unpredictable problems. The only hardware faults that people have written software around are ECC errors, ethernet faults, disk faults and other common problems. Usually if there is a processor fault it is very difficult to handle in software, so instead of panicing or issuing an error message, the machine simply fails to work properly and can hang. Intel hardware usually runs very slowly when it gets hot; it's a hardware feature to stop the silicon melting itself. Some AMD processors can, too (others just cook themselves). I had some really bizarre faults on my home system last January where it would simply hang, no interrupts, no nuttin'. It turned out that I needed to re-seat the AMD Coppermine processor in its socket. After that, all has been OK. Hope that helps, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia Level 2, 55 Mentmore Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 3 April 2003 12:41 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] server crash - incorrect iptables config possible cause. G'day all... I've a Mandrake 8.2 server (2.4 kernel) with iptables. The server has had overheating problems in the past. (Replaced the heatsink/fan unit.) The other day it stopped responding after I'd been adjusting the firewalling rules. I couldn't log into the machine at all and it appeared to be running very slowly. At the time I thought this was more overheating problems. I replaced the server relatively quickly, and I've been diagnosing it. I booted the machine using the installer CD witht the rescue option and renamed rc.firewall so that the scripts it contains wouldn't be run. When I rebooted it, I could log in fine. My question is that could an incorrect firewall (iptables) rule been the cause of the fault? Thanks Mike --- Michael S. E. Kraus Administration Capital Holdings Group (NSW) Pty Ltd p: (02) 9955 8000 -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Jython - is this a joke?
http://click.unixreview.email-publisher.com/maaaUNDaaWzQQa46tLbb/ It's not April 1 yet but Unix Review sent me this reference to a new book on jython. Man, the way things are going with languages, /usr/bin is going to have to be the biggest partition in any Linux system! (closely followed by /var). Regards, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia Level 2, 55 Mentmore Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] (Samba 2.2.6) Changing Windows permission/attributes on files.
This can also be done at the client end (i.e. on Windows). Personally I don't like hiding things on systems at the server end; it can be hard to debug if there's a problem (or if you inherit someone else's setup). In some respects it might be better to have a usually-hidden share setup in smb.conf Regards, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia Level 2, 55 Mentmore Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 11 March 2003 3:27 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SLUG] (Samba 2.2.6) Changing Windows permission/attributes on files. Hi Mike.. I can't recall the exact directive but there's a bit in smb.conf where you specify filenames/extensions to automatically hide. I reckon that's what you're looking for - whack desktop.ini in there and robert's your father's brother. ..S. On Monday, March 10, 2003, at 05:21 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: G'day all... I'm wondering how you can change windows attributes on files under Linux. (The files are being served to MS Windows clients using Samba 2.2.6) I've had some problems with desktop.ini not being marked as hidden where it should be. I'd like to be able to set the hidden attribute on these files. Any ideas / suggestions? Thanks. Mike --- Michael S. E. Kraus Administration Capital Holdings Group (NSW) Pty Ltd p: (02) 9955 8000 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Redhat 8.0 - problems encountered when converting users from windows
And I used to see this a lot with one user (Exceed on Windows) remotely
running X applications on a Solaris system.
No other Exceed/Win users had this problem.
My solution was just to make sure that all X11 users had the same version
and were educated in its operation.
Me: Do you value your data? Then exit the application before shutting down
your computer
User: OK.
The main problem with laptop users is they are used to just being able to
close the lid and pick up the session later. This works fine with local
applications, but does not necessarily suspend the session properly with a
remote application.
I think what is happening is when the remote user restarts, the application
host is unable to reconnect to that X window. I am wondering if that is
something that is an application level problem rather than an X problem as
such.
Then again I know very little about X11 programming; it seems obscure.
Cheers,
Jill.
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-Original Message-
From: Phil Scarratt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 27 February 2003 15:27
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [SLUG] Redhat 8.0 - problems encountered when converting
users from windows
Am interested in how this pans out as I have similar problems in a
school situation where I have been running 15-30 X terminals and
processes not clearing properly - particularly with
OpenOffice/Staroffice. Similarly, up till now I've been killing them.
Fil
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have started using Linux to replace windows on the desktop in our
company. We are only small but I have switched 4 of the desktops to
Linux and I just got 2 new laptops for reps on which I installed RedHat
8.0. The desktops I am running just as an X terminal into a server also
running ReHat 8.0 (via GDM). It has been fairly successful so far with
a few minor hiccoughs.
We run Lotus Notes and I am running it under Crossover Office. It has a
few problems but is stable enough for regular use. The staff quite like
Openoffice and some prefer Evolution to the Notes mail client.
Unfortunately all our document management is in Notes so I have to keep
supporting it for now.
One problem I am having on the server is some processes are not exiting
cleanly and I am left with a process with no controlling terminal. When
the user tries to restart that application ( it might be crossover for
notes or Open office etc) the application will not start, apparently
because it sees processes still running for that user for that
application. For now I have resorted to writing kill scripts to kill
all of a particular type of process for a user (or all processes for a
user if it really needs it) that the user can click on their desktop but
this is messy. eg kill -9 `ps -u $USERNAME | grep soffice | awk '{print
$1}'`
I am not sure if it is happening on the laptops. They of course do not
run through a remote X terminal session but run the application locally.
The users are used to windows so if they have a problem they tend to
shutdown and reboot. This could be disguising the same problem. These
users have not reported any problems. I run RedHat 8.0 on one machine
at home and it does not seem to have the same problem. I suspect it may
be the X sessions somehow losing the connection but it not causing the
process to exit. (Then again it may be something completely different).
A similar problem which may be related is on one 1 proprietary X
terminal that sometimes locks up. When the user power cycles and logs
back in they get an error that there is already a panel open. When you
click on OK the message immediately pops up again. This repeats until
you log out and back in This may be the same problem as above but I am
not sure. I have tried power cycling the terminal without logging out
to see if I can replicate the error with several applications left open
and it works perfectly of course.
I have googled for similar problems without success.
Any suggestions about how I might make these problems go away.
Regards
Steven
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RE: [SLUG] Bynari's Insight Server
There is an article about it in this month's Linux Journal. It looks as though it is used with Windows clients running Outlook, communicating with an IBM mainframe server running Linux (presumably in emulation mode). The article is quite an interesting read in its own right; it seems Exchange is another of those things that one thinks Microsoft developed internally but turns out to be based on an older protocol. Cheers, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia Level 2, 55 Mentmore Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Gonzalo Servat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 18 February 2003 11:06 To: Brad Thomson Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SLUG] Bynari's Insight Server On 18/02/2003 9:10 AM +1100 Brad Thomson wrote: Does anyone have Bynari's Insight server, connector and LDAP client running in a production environment? I'm looking to replace a small (50 seat) Exchange server with something on Linux, and would be intrested in hearing from those that have used something other than Bynari for this purpose, too. Oh, and web-based software is not an option. Hi Brad. About 6 months ago I was looking at this solution for the same sort of seats. I contacted Bynari and they basically said their client is too unstable to be used in production (sounds like a great idea to advertise a product with a price tag on it when you know it's unstable, don't you?) From memory I was told that AltN bought out the Exchange-replacement product from Bynari. See http://www.altn.com/press/press_release.asp?ReleaseID=49 for more info. Although by the look of it it's only out for Windows and judging by all their other software they are a Windows software development house only. I guess their aim is to provide a cheaper alternative to Exchange. HTH, Gonzalo. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Bynari's Insight Server
I once looked at the Samsung Contact software brochures (they keep trying to sell the stuff to me) but it is limited in the number of clients it can handle. I think it was about 200 or so, but I would not be able to consider such a thing as we have typically 800 to 1000 clients at times. Unfortunately for Samsung, they don't come anywhere near Exchange for that. However Bynari's Insight can apparently handle a few thousand clients without apparent performance degradation. Then again the hardware cost would be awesome. Cheers, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia Level 2, 55 Mentmore Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 18 February 2003 11:52 To: Brad Thomson Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SLUG] Bynari's Insight Server On Tue, Feb 18, 2003 at 09:10:00AM +1100, Brad Thomson wrote: I'm looking to replace a small (50 seat) Exchange server with something on Linux, and would be intrested in hearing from those that have used something other than Bynari for this purpose, too. A sometimes mentioned alternative to Exchange is Samsung Contact Server (used to be HP's Openmail) http://www.samsungcontact.com/en/ You can download it; some version of it anyway. I've never used it. Matt -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Error during backup.
Sounds like a fsck of /dev/md5 may be in order (bring the machine to single user, then unmount it then run fsck as per man fsck). This may be the result of a previous bad shutdown, with fsck not set on reboot, or even a memory fault. Or a bad sector on the disk, which can be mapped out if you have to. I hope you have another tape of /opt somewhere. Regards, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia Level 2, 55 Mentmore Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 18 February 2003 12:49 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] Error during backup. G'day... I backup to tape, using mt and dump. During a backup this is the error message I received: --- DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Tue Feb 18 11:51:39 2003 DUMP: Dumping /dev/md5 (/opt) to /dev/tape DUMP: Added inode 8 to exclude list (journal inode) DUMP: Added inode 7 to exclude list (resize inode) DUMP: Label: o-20030218-f DUMP: mapping (Pass I) [regular files] /dev/md5: Can't read next inode while scanning inode #749248 # --- And I was returned to a prompt. What does this mean? Thanks... Mike --- Michael S. E. Kraus Administration Capital Holdings Group (NSW) Pty Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone (02) 9955 8000 fax (02) 9955 8144 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] LaTeX slides
I have used seminar.sty and converted the output using ps2pdf. The only caveat I would suggest is to make sure you use a common font like times if you are not 100% sure of the presentation computer. After preparing my slides and converting them to PDF, I got them looking nice on Linux and MacOSX, then drove over to Mum's place to make sure it worked on Windows. Mike used Prosper. It looked very good as a PDF on Linux and MacOSX but failed completely on Windows until he changed the font to something boring like times. In our case, we had to produce something that worked on different operating systems. If you have the luxury of presenting using your own PC then anything that you can see on the screen will be OK. The only problems you might have are low resolution projectors, and things that look purple on the screen might look blue on the projector. Regards, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia Level 2, 55 Mentmore Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Alan L Tyree [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 6 February 2003 16:52 To: Sydny Linux User Group Subject: [SLUG] LaTeX slides I have to put together a presentation and I would like to use a LaTeX based solution. I have had a look at Michael Wiedmann's page that lists a lot of solutions: http://www.miwie.org/presentations/presentations.html Has anybody had any experiences, good or bad, with any particular solution? Other people at this thing will be using Powerpoint, so I would like to look as good as they do. Thanks, Alan -- -- Alan L Tyree[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.law.usyd.edu.au/~alant Tel: +61 2 4782 2670 Mobile: +61 405 084 990 Fax: +61 2 4782 7092 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] MS access file convert to text file
Don't know, but you may be able to open it with Open Office's database then save it as something else. -- Jill Rowling, System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia Level 2, 55 Mentmore Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Kevin Saenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 23 January 2003 15:28 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] MS access file convert to text file Hi all, I have been sent a MS access file and I can't read it can i convert it to .sql ? thanks -- Kevin Saenz [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Microsoft loses showdown in Houston(OT)
No, 'tis still there, but you need to stitch together the two lines that make up the full URL. It's also on slashdot of course. -- Jill Rowling, System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia Level 2, 55 Mentmore Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 23 January 2003 16:09 To: Jon Biddell Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SLUG] Microsoft loses showdown in Houston(OT) the story has been removed Mark Crisp Messaging, Hosting Security - Asia/Pacific Australia Systems Engineer Unit 8 5 Talavera Rd North Ryde NSW 2113 Phone: 612 8876 8910 Fax: 612 8876 8899 Cell Phone: 0414 86 4031 http://www.equant.com Jon Biddell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 23/01/2003 03:58 PMcc: bcc: Subject: [SLUG] Microsoft loses showdown in Houston(OT) This is a must read. http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storyu=/usatoday/20030122/tc_ usatoday/4798893 Microsoft loses showdown in Houston Byron Acohido USA TODAY HOUSTON -- The people who run this city recently heard a familiar pitch from Microsoft: Sign up for a multiyear, $12 million software licensing plan or face an audit exposing the city's use of software it hadn't paid for. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Slightly OT - DDS3 Backups
When did you last run a cleaning tape on it? I had a similar problem after reading some old tapes. I ran a cleaning tape, put in brand new media and all was well thereafter. Regards, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia Level 2, 55 Mentmore Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] snip Jan 15 21:07:55 mail kernel: st0: Block limits 1 - 16777215 bytes. Jan 15 22:05:19 mail kernel: st0: Error with sense data: [valid=0] Info fld=0x0, Deferred st09:00: sense key Hardware Error Jan 15 22:05:19 mail kernel: Additional sense indicates Internal target failure Jan 15 22:05:19 mail kernel: st0: Error with sense data: [valid=0] Info fld=0x0, Current st09:00: sense key Hardware Error Jan 15 22:05:19 mail kernel: Additional sense indicates Internal target failure Jan 15 22:20:00 mail kernel: scsi : 0 hosts left. Jan 15 22:20:00 mail kernel: st: Unloaded. From what I can find it seems to be a hardware problem. I will see if I can get a new drive and what the results are. Thanks for all suggestions. Regards, Scott -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] OpenMosix vs Grid engine
Hi all, Anyone know what is the difference between Open Mosix clustering vs the Grid Engine project http://gridengine.sunsource.net/ as far as the end user's application software is concerned? Regards, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia Level 2, 55 Mentmore Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Rsync problem
The only problems I've had were with getting MacOS9 files off a MacOSX system transferred to a Linux system. I ended up doing it manually in the OS9 application and using ftp to transfer the stuff across. Other things to look for: - time/date synchronisation on both machines - files which are being opened and updated while the rsync is progressing. I suspect the file seeks on rsync might be relying on the opened file being fairly static. For short files, it should not be an issue, but for longer ones, strange things might happen if the file gets written by another process. Cheers, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia Level 2, 55 Mentmore Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 18 December 2002 15:10 To: Graeme Robinson Cc: David; Howard Lowndes; Mail List - SLUG Subject: Re: [SLUG] Rsync problem -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
