Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.
In message <1446351929.83901.425694457.53ca2...@webmail.messagingengine.com>, Bryan Vyhmeist er writes: > The 12V DC is a 4-pin connector (2x2) much like one of the CPU 12V lines And this company has some very interesting gadgets if you want to play with redundancy and local UPS for 12V boards: http://www.mini-box.com/micro-UPS-load-sharing -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.
In message <1446400321.1756740.425985249.06027...@webmail.messagingengine.com>, Bryan Vyhmei ster writes: >> And this company has some very interesting gadgets if you want to play >> with redundancy and local UPS for 12V boards: >> >> http://www.mini-box.com/micro-UPS-load-sharing > >I've purchased their thin Mini-ITX power supplies and other parts for >years now but never any of the micro-UPS stuff. I take it you're using >some of these items? I've last week started using the Y-PWR "ideal diode" boards and so far they're working out great. I also bought an OpenUPS2, but havn't had time to play with it yet. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] NanoBSD Reboot failure
In message bafeb7c0-933b-4297-b870-a42181ee9...@speakeasy.net, Jed Clear writ es: I'm running NanoBSD (FreeBSD 8.2R) on a net5501. It generally runs great, but every time I go to reboot it, I get an error and it doesn't reboot. Same error for halt, reboot, and shutdown. That looks like you have lost contact with your disk. 8.X switched to the gpart(8) module, and if you use fdisk(8) to change the active partition, something screws up and you loose contact with the disk. Not sure if boot0cfg(8) also suffers this problem. The solution is to use gpart to set the active partition and the nanobsd.sh and assorted files have been updated to do this as far as I'm aware. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Life expectancy of a compact flash?
In message 4da598a2.5080...@christiantena.net, Philip writes: Maybe logs could be written to a USB memory stick? Same issues apply and are often much worse on USB sticks. CF cards are targeted mainly at professional photographers these days, USB sticks are for consumers. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Life expectancy of a compact flash?
In message 4da59d5b.2040...@christiantena.net, Philip writes: I am sure you are right. I was just thinking that if the USB memory stick fails you can buy a new one for £1 and you wouldn't need to reinstall the whole OS. Ohh, absolutely. But that sort of hinges on your logfiles not being important in the first place... -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Life expectancy of a compact flash?
In message 4da4d3c2.6060...@bogus.com, Joel Jaeggli writes: The answer is it depends on so many factors that you do not and often cannot know, that you might as well give up predicting it at all. Unless you can get statistics out of the flash-adaptation layer in the card, there is no way to project what kind of state the flash array truely it is in. By the time you get the first bit of relevant information, in the shape of a read or write error, it is already time to throw the card out. If you use the card like it was intended, few writes of big files (photos in a camera) you will generally be fine. If you do a lot of small writes you will generally not be. For 'big', 'small', 'few' and 'a lot', insert any random numbers you care to dream up, nobody knows the real numbers. (A few of the high end manufacturers have data that is indicative, but they will only share them under NDA.) NanoBSD and Fifolog (both in FreeBSD) were both written to specifically avoid and when unavoidable, to optimize the write pattern for CF card longevity. Poul-Henning -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] FreeBSD 8 ?
In message 20110322195921.ga33...@pp.htv.fi, Esa Karkkainen writes: The only problem that I've had with my net4801 running 8.2-p1, is that the box seems to crash when cumulative traffic exceeds 12-15 Mbits/s. I'm using polling on the internal and external interfaces, the third one is not used at the moment. Have you tried without polling ? Polling is a pretty crude hack which doesn't really get you that much when all the interfaces are on the same interrupt line... -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] FreeBSD 8 ?
In message 3b99cb97-fd34-4cac-a315-b487e8590...@develooper.com, =?iso-8859-1? Q?Ask_Bj=F8rn_Hansen?= writes: I build a NanoBSD image on FreeBSD 7 for my Soekris and Alix boxes. I probably should upgrade it to FreeBSD 8; but skimming the FreeBSD lists it seems like there are a few gotchas related to the small/embedded systems. Is that right, or should I expect things to just work? The only problem I have run into is that you need to make sure you have a fresh-ish bios on the soekris for a serial console to work reliably. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] net4521 install squeeze
In message AANLkTi=6zOXUHFB+-3YOwo_X=xc-EWB0A=6fkhmyg...@mail.gmail.com, Javi er Reyna Padilla writes: Nice doc for FreeBSD, I am currently working with NanoBSD. sooo nice :-) You may also find this useful: http://phk.freebsd.dk/misc/build_options/ -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] net4526 for precision timing?
In message 4d2e376a.9040...@earthlink.net, Curt Corder writes: (a) Is the Elan SC520 TMR1IN pin still accessible via the R61/R62 junction? (b) And if so, could/would someone be so kind as to point out where on the 4526 it is? :) I have not tried using the 4526 for this, because it lacks the second serial port to talk to the GPS receiver. I have no idea where to find the TMR1IN pin, you will have to ask Soren to tell you. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] net4526 for precision timing?
In message 4d2f2393.6010...@earthlink.net, Curt Corder writes: Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: Looks like the path of least resistance would indicate I stick with the 4501. I think the 4526 may offer significant resistance: The flash is soldered in and not very big... -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Repair?
In message 1284381725.3220.4.ca...@402-desktop-ubuntu, Thomas Albech writes: Hi list, I recently posted a problem with one of my 5501's that only detected 410Mb of memory. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4669371/memory.jpg A new PSU was tried and everything failed on this box, where the other 5501 I have detected all memory. Then I was wondering if it was possible to have that repaired by Soekris or I simply should forget about this box and buy a new one? Send email to r...@soekris.com -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Thrid Serial port on net5501 ?
In message 1279365241.2229.20.ca...@tsubaki.mahoruhome, JOORIS Emmanuel write
s:
Hello,
On the net5501 board, JP4 is the second serial port, but on the JP5, pin
18-19 are on pin S{IN/OUT}2.
is this a third serial port, or just a copy of RXD/TXD of JP4 ?
Just a 0-3.3V copy of the second serial port.
If you need a 3rd, use a USB-serial dongle
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Re: [Soekris] Faulty memory?
In message 1277912664.16234.4.ca...@402-desktop-ubuntu, Thomas Albech writes: I recently experienced a very unstable Soekris 5501 that I have had running for quite some time without ever having problems with it. Always check your power-supply as the first thing, 99 times out of 100 that is the problem. If the problem persists with a known good power-supply, then suspect hardware trouble. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] mounting a net4801 board
In message o2t2cb417231005071107mbf3b70afxfa37c27631e7d...@mail.gmail.com, Ru ssell Sutherland writes: I am planning on mounting a net4801 board, without the case, on a vertical piece of plywood. Are there any precautions I need to take in terms of grounding, insulation etc.? Make sure not to bend the PCB by tightening the screws too hard, and make sure that air can circulate behind the PCB. Mounting the PCB with for tiny wood-screws through four rubber grommets as standoff works great, but pretty much any kind of plastic-pipe will do. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Power on/off and bios access
In message 4bcdf2fe.6050...@computer.org, Jan Ceuleers writes: Bob Bishop wrote: (I removed the +++ escape sequence with guard timer from an open source piece of software I wrote a couple of decades ago because of this patent) That was pointless, unless the software was a modem. Poul-Henning -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Power on/off and bios access
In message 201004201937.o3kjblgu022...@host22.the-web-host.com, Scott Newell writes: And am I the the only one who wonders how Poul-Henning Kamp gets all of the knowledge about the double-secret Soekris features? :-) No you are not...BIOS dump and run strings over it? Occams razor would prefer a much simpler explanation :-) And it is indeed much simpler: I proposed that feature to Soren back when the 5501 was still on the drawing board :-) And the bios wouldn't show you any trace of it, because it's implemented in the smallest microcontroller (8051 ?) I have seen yet: the small eight-pin chip located between the DE-9 connector and the miniPCI socket. And yes, it seems to work at all speeds, probably does autobaud. Poul-Henning -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Power to the net5501
In message 4bbf71b1.1010...@redfish-solutions.com, Philip A. Prindeville wr ites: The only way to deliver power to the board is via J5? No, that illustration forgets the white 6-pin connector on the right hand side, towards the front (right behind the USB connector) That connector can be used both as power input and output. Check the NET4801 manual for details. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] How to read net5501 sensors under FreeBSD 8
In message 4b95197c.9070...@kaarposoft.dk, Henrik /KaarPoSoft writes: Thank you very much for your observations! Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message 4b951495.3040...@kaarposoft.dk, Henrik /KaarPoSoft writes: But: Are the sensors wired and scaled the same way in net5501 and net4801? almost. Do you have any pointers to documentation on this? I belive soren documented it in an email to this list some time ago. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] powering a net5501 from a car battery
In message 20100226221950.ga20...@titania.njm.me.uk, N.J. Mann writes: In message 4b8831fa.8010...@christiantena.net, Philip (s...@christiantena.net) wrote: I want to power my net5501 from a spare 12V car battery that I have. You want a 'Deep cycle battery' not a 'Starting battery'. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead-acid_battery If you use a 'Starting Battery' it will not last very long. Actually, if charged *correctly*, it is likely ti last significantly longer than the deep-cycle battery. But you have to deal with all the hydrogen, refill water etc etc. BTW: I can highly recommend surfing the archived papers of the Stationary Battery Conference: http://www.battcon.com/ArchivePapers.htm It gives a much clearer idea of what is actual science and what is just handwaving. Surprising amounts of the latter... -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Does 2.5 1/6H hard disk fit in the net5501 standard case?
In message 4b81bdee.6090...@kaarposoft.dk, Henrik /KaarPoSoft writes: However, the specs say that it has form-factor 2.5 x 1/6H. Will it fit in the net5501 standard case with the 2.5 HDD mounting kit? I don't think so, it's really pretty tight in there. But if you do not need the PCI expansion slot, you could simply bolt the disk down over on that side of the cabinet by drilling four holes in the bottom of the cabinet. Or, for more interrim installation: a couple of shots with the glue-gun or a wad of double-stick tape... -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Soekris 5501 with SSD disks
In message yq1636d4b7b@sermon.lab.mkp.net, Martin K. Petersen writes: The mind boggles at the disingenuity of the FTL in many of these SSDs. The problem is the M-Systems patents which Sandisk have sued the world its dog for: either you pay, or you make some crap. Only Intel avoids paying, because Sandisk likes to be able to buy flashchips there... -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Soekris 5501 with SSD disks
In message 4b6a0db0.3000...@bogus.com, Joel Jaeggli writes: Actaully wear leveling on the part of the disk controller should if implemented properly work even if the disk is both fully or nearly so committed and unaware of block utilization. If by work you mean allow blocks to get written, yes. If you mean allow blocks to get written *fast*, then no. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Soekris 5501 with SSD disks
In message 4b69cd90.8080...@krotus.com, Jordan Share writes: On 2/3/2010 6:18 AM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: Well, you can always partition the disk in half, and literally never write to the last half of the disk (which is what I thought Bob to be suggesting in his post). Again, that only works if the FAL knows that half contains no good data to begin with... -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Soekris 5501 with SSD disks
In message 3f8f34c5-f376-46b0-9e2c-53a213d0e...@cq.nu, Bob Camp writes: Don't get an SSD thinking you're going to get speed. The 5501 will limit the throughput well below what you'd expect for an SSD. An SSD still does miracles for access time. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Soekris 5501 with SSD disks
In message af2fdca3-913c-4c7c-8508-d6cda5ac0...@freebsd.org, Joel Dahl writes : So, is anyone running a Soekris 5501 with a SSD disk? Yes, I've been running with an MTRON 32GB device for over a year. Nothing much to report, it works... -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] 5501 ekstra ekstra com port
In message 1fc4953a944a38562e8228f4e0247e84.squir...@mail02.apz.dk, Ebbe Hjo rth writes: Hi, I have FreeBSD installed on the 5501, and got the little cable to use the 2nd onboard com port. So i have setup FreeBSD to use com port 1 as console, and com port 2 for a temperature sensor, but now i have a gsm modem, where do i connect that? USB ? No reason to use a RS232 GSM modem, the usual 3G USB sticks will work. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] net5501 freebsd 8.0 compile options
In message 011c0fceacbb4e59a0945d7c10a92...@vectron.com, Bob Camp writes: Hi While we're on the topic. How many PPS's can a 48xx stamp at more or less the same time? One. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] net5501 freebsd 8.0 compile options
In message ea8da95b-7382-4f2b-9b57-420c40c50...@cq.nu, Bob Camp writes: Hi I had a nasty suspicion that was the case. So now it's either get another 15 45xx boards or figure out another way to do it. If you know anybody just moderately VHDL capable, getting a low-profile PCI card with an FPGA, a counter and a bunch of latches shouldn't be too hard. I did this 10 years ago for the Xilings XC6200 Hot-1, but that does not exist anymore :-( If you make it open source I'll happily write the kernel driver for it. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] net5501 freebsd 8.0 compile options
In message 065a73544e7648008d44f09c127b4...@vectron.com, Bob Camp writes: Hi My understanding is that the precision time stuff is specific to the 45xx boards. The magic hardware that does the time stamping is not present on the 55xx boards. You are absolutely correct. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] net5501 freebsd 8.0 compile options
In message 4b27c5ac.9070...@wsg.net, David E. Cross writes: I thought it was in the CPU itself. Seems a shame that AMD would remove that :( It is, but it is a different CPU. The 45xx has the Elan CPU, the 48xx and 55xx has (different) Geodes. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] GPIO control of SW1(Reset Button) on 5501 with OpenBSD
In message 4b24d1a7.1010...@gmail.com, Lars Nooden writes: Lars Nooden wrote: Or if that information is not available, which pc87366 pin is it? I don't think it is one of the pc87366 pins, I think it is one of the pins on the Geode Companion chip. Poul-Henning -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Trouble building nanobsd
In message 1258630765.29454.6.ca...@localhost.localdomain, Dean Maluski write s: Trying to build a custom nanbsd image to run ntp on a NET4501. Whenever I customize the build I don't get ._disk.full. If I simply do a sh nanobsd.sh I do get the _disk.full image. Check the _* logfiles from the customize functions, in all likelyhood one of them fails and terminates the nanobsd build. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] POST cycles on 5501 when disk spins up
In message 4af865ed.5090...@lr.los-gatos.ca.us, Ralph Becker-Szendy writes: Beginning this weekend, the machine crashes frequently, then refuses to boot. After powerup, it tries to spin the disk up, fails. Keeps trying, and eventually succeeds. Bad power-supply. My theory: Either one of the power supplies has become weaker with age (either the external brick, or the internal converter), [...] Very likely explanation. Try another brick first. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] GPIO net4501
In message 4aedba99@lisehoej.dk, Anders Christensen writes: Hi, Can anyone supply me with some code that shows how to get the GPIO set at input and read them? They are input by default. Here is some code that twiddles a LCD display: http://phk.freebsd.dk/soekris/lcd/ -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] FreeBSD 8 on net5501?
In message 4aa421b4.4000...@menhennitt.com.au, Graham Menhennitt writes: Is anybody running FreeBSD 8-current on a net5501? Any problems? Any special kernel config parameters? Any tricks I need to know? I am. Same as always. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Readdressing the cooling question....
In message d890b440-9424-4576-9c39-5231a3c5d...@netxsecure.net, Michael A. W illiams writes: Has anyone negative experiences with SSD ? Yes, I have killed two mirrored M-Tron MOBI-3000 32GB SSD's in a data collection application. It looks like a either a bug or really bad thinking in their firmware. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] SSD drives
In message 005901c9f5af$03b97ee0$0b2c7c...@org, Peter Bako writes: Has anyone setup SSD drives in their 4801 or 5501 units? If yes which brand(s) did you use, did you have any issues with it, how much did it cost, etc. Did you have issues with performance, heat, etc? I'm running a couple of 5501's with MTRON MOBI-3000 32GB SSDs. Works like you would expect. Beware of camera grade SSD's, they are just CF cards in a bigger box. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Net4801 and SSD?
In message 4a2791c2.8040...@elandem.org, Mat Ford writes: Hi, Anyone succesfully using an SSD with Net4801? Most SSD seem to come with SATA i/f but that isn't going to work with a stock Net4801. Is there a stable workaround anyone can recommend? Yes, works fine. Make sure you don't get a repackaged CF card or other camera grade stuff. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] CPUTYPE for net5501 and FreeBSD 7.2
In message 26ddd1750904221039w7f16bf87k9a12a83001017...@mail.gmail.com, Maxim Khitrov writes: which CPUTYPE should be used for Geode LX 800? Here are the lines I use: cpu I486_CPU cpu I586_CPU cpu I686_CPU options CPU_GEODE options CPU_SOEKRIS The important bit is the last two. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] CPUTYPE for net5501 and FreeBSD 7.2
In message 26ddd1750904221112p2c8570adkf6e481fbe9f52...@mail.gmail.com, Maxim Khitrov writes: Thanks, but that is for the kernel configuration, what do you use for CPUTYPE in make.conf? By the way, I think you can remove I486_CPU and I686_CPU lines from the kernel since geode is a 586. It doesn't make enough difference for me to bother... -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Thinking about an SSD
In message bruls498b23utccokt32si1o5itp5fk...@4ax.com, David Alexander writes : I run my 5501 mailserver on a Mtron MOBI-3000 32GB SSD. SSDs run cooler than HDs. True? yes. SSDs are silent. This seems obvious unless I've missed something. yes. SSDs will be much faster than a CF card? Maybe. Pretty much all the cheap SSD's on the market are camera grade technology and therefore run at exactly the same speed. The crucial benchmark is small random writes. A real SSD runs faster than a normal disk, ie: better than 5 msec. (Probably only Intels single-level at this point) A so-so SSD runs as fast as a normal disk, ie: 5-20 msec. (Intels multilevel, MTRON mobi-3000) A camera grade SSD takes between 0.1 and 0.5 second per write. (Anything that is too cheap to believe) Surf for benchmarks and ignore everything they write, except for the random write test, that is the only one which matters. This is the most competent review I have seen so far: http://www.anandtech.com/printarticle.aspx?i=3531 He gets some minor details about how wear-leveling is implemented wrong, but he is the first reviewer to grasp the big picture. Poul-Henning -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Trouble building NanoBSD image
In message 49c66c4a.4020...@km3t.org, Dave Pascoe writes: Trying to build a NanoBSD image for a net5501 from FreeBSD-7.1 stable. Build world finishes but the kernel build fails (see error below) with no descriptive error message (after xlib and presumably before net/). In all likelyhood the error is earlier in your logfile, we build with make -j parallelism and that generally means that you can trust the error to the be last output. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Power savings
In message 53d706300903031646k7cd8b8f8h23c27514724e3...@mail.gmail.com, Bryan
Irvine writes:
I was thinking of getting one of these little guys in my house. My
excuse? Power savings over the existing firewall. I remember seeing
something a long time ago that compared the cost savings of a full
desktop firewall and a soekris, and basically the soekris pays for
itself within x amount of time. I was wondering if anyone had a link
to power comparisons.
The savings depend on your price of electricity, every watt you burn
24*365 will cost you:
R * 24 * 365 / 1000 = P
Where R is your electricity rate in ${money} per kWh
and P is ${money} per year.
In my case:
1.83 * 24 * 365 / 1000 = 16.030 DKR (= USD2.75 = EUR2.15)
A NET5501 seems to run at 4-5 Watts, whereas the typical old PC,
without monitor, will run at around 50-100 Watts.
A conservative savings is therefore 45W = 720 DKR (= USD125 = EUR97)
Optimistically you save 95W = 1520 DKR (= USD262 = EUR204)
But obviously, this varies a lot according to your electricity rate.
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Re: [Soekris] E1 to 30 analog phones
In message 7aa8bd9d0902220046x24d390a3j8b43f394540ee...@mail.gmail.com, Pete Kay writes: Is it possible to ue Soekris to connect one E1 card with 30 analog phones? I think the soekris has plenty CPU power for the task, but one PCI slot is just not enough... -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] OT: 12V UPS system, rackmount enclosure for batteries
It is very tricky to put lead-acid batteries in parallel without having a charger for each string. By the time you are done getting chargers for your batteries and converters from the serial string voltage (48V likely cheapest) you will have spent more money than the battery capacity is worth, given that we are talking about aged batteries. I would leave th UPS alone, possibly using it for something else in the house, and get a battery-backed power-supply of the kind used for fire-alarms. That is basically a load-tolerant charger and a 12V lead-acid battery in a box. You can also buy or build a charger yourself if you want, a float charger is just a 13.8V supply, but you should temperature correct for battery temperature for maximum lifetime. If you use a 13.8V charger without boost mode (14.5V) you don't need more than a couple of diodes in series to get the 12V for your disks (remember a fuse though). The 5V for the disk can probably be supplied by the regulator on the NET5501. So total parts-list: 13.8V powersupply 12V Lead Acid battery two 5A silicon diodes 3A slow blow fuse See also: http://phk.freebsd.dk/soekris/ups/ Poul-Henning -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] OT: 12V UPS system, rackmount enclosure for batteries
In message 44044.1234860...@critter.freebsd.dk, Poul-Henning Kamp writes: I just noticed this one, which may be relevant: http://www.mini-box.com/picoUPS-100-12V-DC-micro-UPS-system-battery-backup-system?sc=8category=981 -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] net5501 GPIO
In message 20090204155251.039c7...@ingeniware.com, Sergey Manucharian writes: On Wed, 04 Feb 2009 22:27:18 + Poul-Henning Kamp p...@phk.freebsd.dk wrote: The net5501 has the exact same GPIO facilities as the net4801. Well, maybe from userspace they are supposed to have the same behaviour, but the hardware is different. The net4801 use PC-87366 chip, while the net5501 - CS5536. Check this picture of a net5501 from Soekris official webpage: http://www.soekris.com/pictures/net5501/net5501_70_BO_front_big.jpg Next to the GPIO and COM2 connectors you will quite clearly see the winbond PC-87736 chip. The CS5536 is the chipset for the GeodeLX cpu. Poul-Henning -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] net5501 GPIO
In message 20090204144100.1e8e9...@photoclub.am, Sergey Manucharian writes: Hello list, I'd like to start using net5501 as a base for the devices produced by our company. Before doing this I want to make sure that GPIOs work properly with Linux. I found that many people report success working with net4501/4801 GPIOs. But the net5501 uses different hardware - CS5536 chip. I could not find any information about using its GPIOs. The net5501 has the exact same GPIO facilities as the net4801. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] switch away from geode?
In message d9b4a220901270844g2f3fa28cr9783109aeef6...@mail.gmail.com, nate wr ites: are there any plans for soekris to replace geode chips with other low power models in the near future? it seems amd plan on continuing sales of geode chips but not development. I think AMDs decision makes sense, the Geode line is reaching the end of its useful designlife, upgrading it to modern expectations would be a redesign which would compete with the main-line chips. The netbook market has finally registered on the radar with both Intel and AMD, and together with the general focus on green computing, that clearly pushes the mainstream chips in the direction we want for embedded and appliance use. I talked with Søren a couple of days ago and he certainly has plans, but what they are, we'll just have to wait and see. Poul-Henning -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] net5501 link problems
In message 200901281043.03812.gerhard.rie...@linbit.com, Gerhard Rieger write s: under some circumstances we experience problems with the net5501 VIA Rhine III builtin network adapters: network traffic mostly fails, pinging the affected interface from another host has a significant loss rate depending on packet sizes, e.g. size=100: 22% lost size=1400: 90% lost Make sure your cable and other hardware is OK. Electrical problem very often manifest themselves by the longer packet, the more trouble. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] net5501 link problems
In message 200901281115.26947.gerhard.rie...@linbit.com, Gerhard Rieger write s: I don't think that it is so simple. First one of our customers experienced this problem at his site with the first net5501 and sent the box back to us; we could reproduce it. If the statistical packet loss happens depends only on some mystical outcome of the last renegotiation (but speed and duplex are always the same). Hmm, try a different OS to see if it might be a device driver issue ? The VT6105M network chip docs are pretty lousy, so I wouldn't be surprised of device drivers could get in trouble. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] PCI-based SATA
In message 98c005e13f5c664f869f1e6b0766301e0308c...@wp201e001.au.oceania.intra net, Rhys Frederick writes: Hi all, Has anyone had any experience using a Promise TX4 Sata card in the 5501's PCI slot? I'm looking to connect a bunch of SATA drives to a 5501. I realise the system is going to be limited by the 33Mhz PCI bus but wondering if anyone hass used it successfully. I'll probably be running the system with FreeBSD (M0n0 1.3 based distro) and FreeBSD seems to have good support for the promise-based cards. It does not work for me. I belive the problem is that the PLL calibration code in the TX4's bios-rom does not run. I have TX4 card waiting for Soren whenever he cares to pick it up. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Max load for JP5 connections on Net5501 and 4801?
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], =?UTF-8?B?TGFycyBOb29kw6lu?= writes: Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], =?u tf-8?Q?Lars_D=2E_Nood=C3=A9n?= writes: What is the max current load allowed (or recommended) to be drawn on pins for the GPIO on JP5? Source 3mA, sink 6mA according to the PC87366 datasheet. Thanks. (BTW Where in the datasheet is that?) In the table of pin-assignments near the front. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Max load for JP5 connections on Net5501 and 4801?
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], =?u tf-8?Q?Lars_D=2E_Nood=C3=A9n?= writes: What is the max current load allowed (or recommended) to be drawn on pins for the GPIO on JP5? Source 3mA, sink 6mA according to the PC87366 datasheet. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Soekris Alternatives
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], =?ISO-8859-1? Q?Ask_Bj=F8rn_Hansen?= writes: On Oct 9, 2008, at 1:38 PM, Sargun Dhillon wrote: The things which are lacking in the BIOS: -Breaks some bootloaders -Remote flashing support I've been trying to convince Søren to release a tftp bootable version of the bios updates, but he's been too busy to listen to me. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Ethernet Led.. doesnt link a lot
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Massimiliano Cianelli writes : Hello, I got noticed when there is a few more of traffic.. something like ~300kb\s its start to stop blinking.. and turn off ... and sometime it never turn on again. Why that? Someone know how to fix it? Thet ethernet led blinks off for a short time for each packet, with enough packets, it never gets to light up. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] nanobsd on net4801: Missing operating system
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Graham Menhennitt writes: Looking through the logs, I see an error message in the _.di file, mdconfig: failed to load geom_md module: No such file or directory. When I try to manually load geom_md, I get kldload: can't load geom_md.ko: No such file or directory even though that file does exist in /boot/kernel. That's probably you problem. Try running mdconfig -a -t malloc -s 1m to see if you have md(4) compiled into your kernel already ? Also, when I try to write the disk image to my CF card, I run out of space just before the end of the image. It seems that the card (SanDisk 2Gb Ultra II) has a size of 2047836672 bytes but the nanobsd image is 2048901120 bytes (about 1 Mb bigger). I have FlashDevice SanDisk 2G in my config file. That would also be a problem. Use the actual size of your card, I thought Sandisk would standardize their card sizes but that was overly optimistic. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] net5501/nano-FreeBSD 7: CF gets UDMA33 instead of UDMA66?
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], James R. Van Artsdalen writes: A Sandisk Ducati 4GB CF is installed. Sandisk claims 45 MB/s reads (and writes!). I'm seeing about 26 MB/s using dd bs=64k. The verbose kernel output from FreeBSD's boot implies that the CF socket is emulating a 40-pin cable so UDMA33 is used instead of UDMA66. Do normal CF sockets require UDMA33 in spite of the short cable length or is this perhaps a Soekris motherboard issue? I'm not quite sure what the exact terminology is, I think it may be half-way deliberate choice on Sørens part. The ata bus runs to the SATA bridge-chip, the 44 pin connector, the CF socket and the pads for solder-on CF flash on the board (I don't know in which order). I've tried patching a kernel to force UDMA66 mode, and I do see sporadic UDMA errors when I do so, both on PATA, SATA and CF cards. In practice, the difference between UDMA33 and UDMA66 isn't that big, since the CF-cards only can keep that sort of speed up for sequential reads/writes in the first place (ie: camera use pattern). A patch was committed to FreeBSD -current recently which makes it possibel to force 80-wire cable but I'm not aware if this has been MFC'ed to 7.x yet. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] List is quiet
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], =?UTF-8?B?TGFycyBOb29kw6lu?= writes: It was definitely big business in the mid-1990's: to put a web interface on top of old legacy systems, a middle layer mapped out X and Y coordinates of every character on the terminal and then 'scraped' what was in the expected spot. Just to pull rank here: First time I did a scraper, it was written in RM cobol, using a IBM 3274 communications package over named pipes on a Zilog S8000 system, coupled up via a 4800 bps sync dial-up half-duplex modem-line to the Danish State Radio's IBM mainframe. The target of our desire was their record-collection database, and they paid us to do it, because they wanted to use a bar-code scanner to track materials in and out of the discoteque. It worked fine for months, until december first, when their VTAM wizards put a nice colored X-mas candle on the login-in screen, overrunning the fixed size buffer in the 3274 emulations handling of VTAM session openings (What ? You can have a login-screen which takes multiple packets ??! as the telex from the US based company who delivered the 3274 packaged replied). The year must have been 1985 or 1986. Poul-Henning -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] List is quiet
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Johannes Bauer writes: Poul-Henning Kamp schrieb: Some @(*#$ idiot decided to write his own scraper and generated to many errors that the log partition ran full. I hope everything is humming again now. I don't get it. As English is not my mother tounge, I even ran scraper through a dictionary. Among the exactly 50 translations of which it can mean in German (http://www.dict.cc/?s=scraper) there is not a single one which would even remotely make sense. Would you mind explain what happened there? Appearantly somebody wanted a private copy of the mailing-list archives and wrote a perl script to pick it out through the web-interface. In practice he couldn't code, so about 9 out of ten requests were in error. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] List is quiet
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ronald L. Ros son Jr. writes: Just checking to see if there are any issues with the mailing list since I have not seen any posts in awhile. Please disregard if this makes it thru. Indeed the lists have been quiet. Some @(*#$ idiot decided to write his own scraper and generated to many errors that the log partition ran full. I hope everything is humming again now. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Hard drives for the Net5501: Travelstar?
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Martin John son writes: I'm about to build a couple of modest NET5501 servers, so I'm looking for some 2.5-inch hard disks that can tolerate 24*7 running. The Travelstar E5K and E7K ranges looks plausible for this job: http://www.hitachigst.com/portal/site/en/products/travelstar/ Their web page lists capacities up to 500 GB, in 5400 RPM (E5Kxxx) and 7200 (E7Kxxx) RPM versions. Presumably the E5K versions use slightly less power, and should run a bit cooler. I've had mixed experiences with E7K 100GB drives, there seems to have been a bad production series of them. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] flash wear with FreeBSD fifolog
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mike Tancsa writes: I am working on our next rev of nanobsd and was looking to incorporate FreeBSD's fifolog program for more persistent logging. It seems to take care not to write out to flash too often so as to reduce wear. With modern day flashes, (I am using SanDisks), what can I expect in terms of lifetime ? Also, if I create a partition just for the logs, and lets say I wear out part of the flash, will there be any impact to my OS partition which is read only ? Very pointed and relevant questions, which flash vendors absolutely refuse to give us the data to answer. It depends on the underlying flash chips quality, the wear-leveling algoritm and how much free space it has to play with. No matter what kind of wear-leveling, even the most idiotic, the sequential write that fifolog does is close the optimal use case, provided the space you write into is sequential seen at the disk interface. (That is why I prefer to use a partition for fiflogs) If you know the write cycle lifetime spec for your card, the best case lifetime is: Nsectors * write_rate * write_cycles = lifetime If you fill in with some numbers: 128k [sector] (=64MB) * 10 [seconds/write] * 2 [writes/sector] = 2621440 [seconds] = 830 [years] For most people, that leaves plenty of margin, but if you are not happy with that, allocate more space or reduce the write rate. The other thing to keep in mind is how long time you have your log data available: 128k [sector] * 10 [seconds/write] = 1310720 [seconds] 15 [days] Depending on your syslog, you may not be able to keep the write rate down, so allocating more space would be the best bet. In the original application, we have 3.5GB fifolog space, and I'll leave the calculations of lifetime as an exercise for the reader :-) Poul-Henning -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] NET5530 - Information about Led
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Stuart Henderson writes: On 2008-07-25, Massimiliano Cianelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course you could rip the LEDs off the board and stick your own ones into the holes on the front of the case, if you don't think you need tham. Yes.. I can do that, but.. where I can connect those led on the board? :-P The GPIO connector. There's no manual so you'll have to make do with the wiki. http://wiki.soekris.info/Unofficial_Hardware_Manual#net5501 It's the same as the NET4801 -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Max. current to draw from 5501 GPIO pins?
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Marc Balmer writes: Does anybody here know what the maximum current is that I can draw from the Soekris 5501 (and/or 4801) GPIO pins? The pins can source 3mA, sink 6mA according to the 87366 data sheet. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] 5501-70 intermittantly fails to start with constant error light
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Rhys Frederick writes: OK so it would appear the problem is sorted. I'm now using a 13.5V 1.8A solid transformer-style PSU (non switch-mode) [...] I've seen signs that the 5501 is a tad more picky with respect to power than the 4801, but I have not been able to determine if it is because of usage pattern (ie: short/taller power usage spikes) or sensitivity to external disturbances. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] asking about voltage and temperature monitoring soekris net 4801
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Wilkinson, A lex writes: 0n Thu, May 22, 2008 at 06:41:06PM +0800, komang adi wrote: yes, i have seen that before. But, i'm using ubuntu for the OS. The program at http://phk/soekris/env4801/ using free besd. Can i just apply it for the ubuntu? Thanks Poul, the aforementioned URL redirects to http://www.searchfusion.com/ Sorry, I was sleepy: http://phk.freebsd.dk/soekris/env4801 -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] asking about voltage and temperature monitoring soekris net 4801
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], koman g adi writes: i'm trying to monitor the condition of the voltage and temperature of the soekris net4801 using lm-sensors, but i just find the link about that at http://www.linuxvillage.ca/support/soekris4801.html#sensor_conf, but the output just like this : Looks like the sensor subsystem is not properly turned on in the Check this program: http://phk/soekris/env4801/ Poul-Henning -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Transcend Industrial
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Chris Babcock writes: Does anybody here know if the Transcend industrial CF cards work properly in a 5501? Also, are they stuck as master or slave, or do they properly honor the CS function on the Soekris boxes? Be aware that Trancend has card options that are always master, slave with the default being cable-select, so you can avoid the issue by getting the right option. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Net5501 and SATA disk on FreeBSD
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Patrick =? ISO-8859-15?Q?Lamaizi=E8re?= writes: I would like to know if this is a bug on FreeBSD (so I will fill a PR) or a problem with the board. And if we can work-around this problem with a patch on the ata driver. The UDMA33/UDMA66 cable recognition depends on one particular wire to be not connected as far as I recall. My guess is that soren connected that. Now, you could either find the offending wire on the pcb and cut it, or you can hack the freebsd driver to ignore the test (I don't think the chip checks autonomously) but that does not give you a guarantee that UDMA66 will actually work. I havn't tried it. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Network LED's Behaviour on net5501
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Alexa nder Norberg writes: Hi, The Network LED's on the front of my Soekris net5501 die down whenever the network (WAN/LAN) traffic is more than 250-300 KB/s. Yes, they turn off for a fixed number of milliseconds for each packet and above a certainl level of trafic that turns them totally off. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] net5501-60 CF not detected on cold boot
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mike Tancsa writes: Even stranger, is on this one I cant seem to disable PXE. BootDrive = 80 81 F0 FF To truly disable PXE, set this to 80 81 ff ff -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] net5501-60 CF not detected on cold boot
Pure guesswork: The RTC is not always starting the first time you power on a box, and if Soren uses that for timing out the detection of CF cards that might explain the problem. I suggest you send email directly to soren about hardware issues. Poul-Henning In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Rob Mason writes: Damn hotkeys... wasn't done but I hit ctrl-enter by mistake. Failing boxes: SN: 161145 SN: 161146 SN: 161147 SN: 161148 SN: 161149 SN: 161150 SN: 161152 SN: 161153 SN: 161154 SN: 161155 SN: 161160 SN: 161161 SN: 161162 SN: 161163 SN: 161164 SN: 161165 SN: 161166 SN: 161191 SN: 161192 SN: 161197 All the boxes have bios version 1.33 but has been some change to the hardware? Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks, R Hello, I am having the same issue as was reported to the list already. With certain 5501s the CF is not detected when the unit is first powered on but shows up after reboot is passed to combios. Currently we have 20 or so units on hand that exhibit this behaviour while 3 or 4 work as expected. Actually in the units that work the card is detected as the slave device but it does see the card when powered up. When it doesn't work this is what I see on the serial console: POST: 012345689bcefghips1234ajklnopqr,,,tvwxy comBIOS ver. 1.33 20070103 Copyright (C) 2000-2007 Soekris Engineering. net5501 0256 Mbyte MemoryCPU Geode LX 434 Mhz Slot Vend Dev ClassRev Cmd Stat CL LT HT Base1Base2 Int --- 0:01:2 1022 2082 1010 0006 0220 08 00 00 A000 10 0:06:0 1106 3053 0296 0117 0210 08 40 00 E101 A0004000 11 0:07:0 1106 3053 0296 0117 0210 08 40 00 E201 A0004100 05 0:08:0 1106 3053 0296 0117 0210 08 40 00 E301 A0004200 09 0:09:0 1106 3053 0296 0117 0210 08 40 00 E401 A0004300 12 0:20:0 1022 2090 06010003 0009 02A0 08 40 80 6001 6101 0:20:2 1022 209A 01018001 0005 02A0 08 00 00 0:21:0 1022 2094 0C031002 0006 0230 08 00 80 A0005000 15 0:21:1 1022 2095 0C032002 0006 0230 08 00 00 A0006000 15 1 Seconds to automatic boot. Press Ctrl-P for entering Monitor. Intel UNDI, PXE-2.0 (build 082) Copyright (C) 1997,1998,1999 Intel Corporation VIA Rhine III Management Adapter v2.43 (2005/12/15) CLIENT MAC ADDR: 00 00 24 C9 D6 B4 PXE-E51: No DHCP or proxyDHCP offers were received. PXE-M0F: Exiting Intel PXE ROM. No Boot device available, enter monitor. comBIOS Monitor. Press ? for help. reboot POST: 012345689bcefghips1234ajklnopqr,,,tvwxy comBIOS ver. 1.33 20070103 Copyright (C) 2000-2007 Soekris Engineering. net5501 0256 Mbyte MemoryCPU Geode LX 434 Mhz Pri Mas CF 1GB LBA Xlt 983-32-63 990 Mbyte Slot Vend Dev ClassRev Cmd Stat CL LT HT Base1Base2 Int --- 0:01:2 1022 2082 1010 0006 0220 08 00 00 A000 10 The strange part is if I put a hard drive in there (80G sata western digital) the CF is detected without issue. The card is an Adata 1GB speedy compact flash. I have 200 or so, so I really need them to be detected properly. I noted the serial numbers for the units that I could get at and it looks like they are all from the same lot. Working boxes: SN: 145774, SN: 153514 and SN: 158171 (this is a 5501-70) Failing boxes: SN: 161145 SN: 161145 SN: 161145 SN: 161145 ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] 4G CF limitation on 45xx and 48xx?
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jonathan Groll writes: On Mon, Mar 03, 2008 at 09:03:51PM -0800, Jon Hart wrote: As listed on the products page of soekris.com, the 45xx and 48xx series devices that accept compact flash only appear to support up to 4G disks, whereas the newer 5501 supports up to 32. Is this actually the case here, or can 45xx and 48xx happily accept 4G? I'm hoping that this is just a case of old documentation, as when the 45xx and 48xx came out, I don't even believe there was a CF 4G. I ask because I have 4801 and a 4511 and am looking to transfer some things off a heat belching SFF desktop, and was hoping to not to have to buy another Soekris just to support 4G. Thats not to say that I wouldn't like to have a 5501, but... I have an 8GB card I can try to test it in a few hours. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] FreeBSD CF DMA problem
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Paul Hoffman writes: My net4801 is into its 3rd year running FreeBSD on a standard HD 24/7. Can't expect it to last forever though. So I'm trying to get a CF working without much luck so far. It's a Kingston 1GB 50x 'elite pro' The problem is that the CF card reports DMA capability but on older 4801's the CF card is not wired for that. FreeBSD cannot see the missing wires, and things get stuck. You can set hw.ata.ata_dma=0 in the loader to tell the disk driver to not attempt DMA. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] comBIOS via COM2 / GPIO 18 19 20
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] o writes: Hi all, Is it possible to access the comBIOS via the second com port? I connected the GPIO pins 18-20 (RX, TX, GND) to my USB/serial converter, it works fine with linux as /dev/ttyS1, but i also want to control the BIOS and PXE boot as well. As far as I know, there is no way to make comBIOS use the second com port, short of a recompile. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Fwd: 5501 under Debian can not see harddisk 5K160
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], =?IS O-8859-1?Q?Ren=E9_Luckow?= writes: However, SATA+PATA works? And I should add: it's not supposed to work according to Søren. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Anyone know what JP3 does on net5501?
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], gavr ik peterson writes: The discussion about USB and JP8 on the net5501 got me wondering about JP3 which is located right next to the Geode processor. I would suspect JTAG ? -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Identify second USB port on 5501
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ralph Becker-Szendy writes:
JP15 is the power connector for the harddisk.
It has the same layout as a floppy power connector: {+5 gnd gnd +12}
B. The USB port is on connector JP8, which has a clearly labeled pin 1,
and uses the standard USB pinout (1=Vcc, 2=Data-, 3=Data+, 4=ground).
So it follows that this must be the USB port.
what useful things we can do with the other two 4-pin jumpers.
I don't think I know what JP7 is.
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Re: [Soekris] ACPI Wake-On-Lan LOM
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jochen Grotepass writes: Besides the normal usage of a 5501 like Firewall etc, I am currently testing to use the 5501 as a VDR. So far everything works perfectly but there are three question I like to get at least addressed: 1. ACPI The net5501 does currently not support ACPI. Are there any plans or ideas to get this into the BIOS? No, it's not going to happen. The net5501 already uses so little power that any incremental saving from ACPI is without releveance. 2. Wake-On-Lan Same answer. 3. LOM There are only two functions: +++ (wait) RESET and +++ (wait) POWER -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] NET5501 Power Control
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Dudley writes: I remember seeing some emails go through the list concerning the ability to cause the card to power down for a few moments. +++ (wait half a second) POWER and +++ (wait half a second) RESET -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] net5501 and GPIO
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ralph Becker-Szendy writes: Hi all on the list, Since I just got my first net5501-60 (I've installed smootly, a quite minimal Fedora8 on a 8GB CF) I would like to be pointed out to an userspace example of GPIO usage. Does anyone can give me an URL or an example to start from? Warning: If I remember right, the pinout of the GPIO connector on the net5501 is different from what is described in the net4801 manual. By this I mean the following: Power, ground and serial pins are still where they used to be, and IO pins are where IO pins used to be. But the numbering of IO pins has changed. This is the first I hear about that, can you elaborate which pins you find unexpected places ? -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] net5501 and GPIO
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Roberto Fichera w
rites:
Hi all on the list,
Since I just got my first net5501-60 (I've installed smootly, a quite minimal
Fedora8 on a
8GB CF) I would like to be pointed out to an userspace example of GPIO usage.
Does anyone
can give me an URL or an example to start from?
The NET5501 is the same as the NET4801 in this respect so any example
from there can be used as well.
Included is some code I bang'ed together to program PIC18 chips with,
you can glean various bits from there, but grab a copy of the
datasheet as well, you'll need it.
/*
*
* THE BEER-WARE LICENSE (Revision 42):
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote this file. As long as you retain this notice you
* can do whatever you want with this stuff. If we meet some day, and you think
* this stuff is worth it, you can buy me a beer in return. Poul-Henning Kamp
*
* $Id: icsp.c,v 1.26 2008/01/27 15:04:52 phk Exp $
*
*/
#include sys/types.h
#include machine/cpufunc.h
#include stdio.h
#include assert.h
#include wchar.h
#include printf.h
#include assert.h
#include string.h
#include sys/time.h
#include stdlib.h
#include unistd.h
#include err.h
#include phk_ihex.h
#define HD_COLUMN_MASK 0x00ff
#define HD_DELIM_MASK 0xff00
#define HD_OMIT_COUNT (1 16)
#define HD_OMIT_HEX (1 17)
#define HD_OMIT_CHARS (1 18)
static int verbose = 0;
static u_int net4801 = 0;
static u_int atms = 0;
static u_int porto = 0;
static u_int porti = 0x379;
static int d_opt = 0x08;
struct fixup {
u_int address;
u_int set_bits;
u_int clr_bits;
const char *reason;
};
static struct fixup fix8722[] = {
{ 0x36, 0x04, 0x00, Enable Single-Supply ICSP },
{ 0x38, 0xff, 0x00, Don't code protect code blocks 0-7 },
{ 0x39, 0x40, 0x00, Don't code protect boot block },
{ 0x39, 0x80, 0x00, Don't code protect data EEPROM },
{ 0x3a, 0xff, 0x00, Don't write protect code blocks 0-7 },
{ 0x3b, 0x20, 0x00, Don't write protect config registers },
{ 0x3b, 0x40, 0x00, Don't write protect boot block },
{ 0x3b, 0x80, 0x00, Don't write protect data EEPROM },
{ 0x3c, 0xff, 0x00, Don't tblrd protect code blocks 0-7 },
{ 0x3d, 0x40, 0x00, Don't tblrd protect boot block },
{ .reason = NULL }
};
static struct fixup fix1220[] = {
{ 0x36, 0x04, 0x00, Enable Single-Supply ICSP },
{ .reason = NULL }
};
static struct fixup fix2523[] = {
{ 0x36, 0x04, 0x00, Enable Single-Supply ICSP },
{ .reason = NULL }
};
enum write_alg {
W1, /* PIC18FX220/X320 DS39592B */
W2, /* PIC18F8722 DS39643B */
};
struct chipid {
const char *name;
u_int devid1;
u_int devid1_mask;
u_int devid2;
u_int code_size;
u_int code_block; /* ??? */
u_int eeprom_size;
u_int config_size;
u_int ident_size;
u_int write_size;
u_int erase_size;
struct fixup*fixup;
enum write_alg write_alg;
};
#define K 1024
#define CFG 0x30
#define IDENT 0x20
static struct chipid chips[] = {
{ PIC18F1220, 0xe0, 0xe0, 0x07, 4*K, 2*K, 256, 14, 8, 8, 64,
fix1220, W1 },
{ PIC18F2220, 0x80, 0xe0, 0x05, 4*K, 2*K, 256, 14, 8, 8, 64,
fix1220, W1 },
{ PIC18F4220, 0xa0, 0xe0, 0x05, 4*K, 2*K, 256, 14, 8, 8, 64,
fix1220, W1 },
{ PIC18F1320, 0xc0, 0xe0, 0x07, 8*K, 4*K, 256, 14, 8, 8, 64,
fix1220, W1 },
{ PIC18F2320, 0x00, 0xe0, 0x05, 8*K, 2*K, 256, 14, 8, 8, 64,
fix1220, W1 },
{ PIC18F4320, 0x20, 0xe0, 0x05, 8*K, 2*K, 256, 14, 8, 8, 64,
fix1220, W1 },
{ PIC18F2423, 0x50, 0xf0, 0x11, 16*K, 8*K, 256, 14, 8, 32, 64,
fix2523, W2 },
{ PIC18F2523, 0x10, 0xf0, 0x11, 32*K, 8*K, 256, 14, 8, 32, 64,
fix2523, W2 },
{ PIC18F4423, 0xd0, 0xf0, 0x10, 16*K, 8*K, 256, 14, 8, 32, 64,
fix2523, W2 },
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Re: [Soekris] Net5501 Second USB Port
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Steven Finnegan writes: Does anybody know for sure which internal header is used for the second USB port on the 5501? The one next to the CF-socket. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Ultradesic Guides under FreeBSD 7.0
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Steven Finnegan writes: This is mainly addressed to David Courtney, or anyone else who may have tried using the Ultradesic scripts under FreeBSD 7.0 Using the script that writes the system image to CF, with FreeBSD 6.1, I have always been successful with the line: gzcat gz_image_file | dd of=/dev/ad0 bs=64k However, under FreeBSD 7.0 this line now fails, It was never correct in the first place, the correct command would have been: gzcat gz_image_file | dd of=/dev/ad0 ibs=64k obs=64k Notice obs instead of bs. With bs it expects same size blocks on input and output, and if it reads 213 bytes from input, it writes 213 bytes to output. With obs, it will always fill a 64k buffer before writing the output (with the obvious, correct, handling at EOF). (ibs=64k is technically not necesary, but it is faster to read stuff from the pile in 64k chunks than in 512 byte chunks.) -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] ACPI 4801
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Sean I writes: Does having ACPI enabled on freeBSD (or any other operating system for that matter) do any good on a 4801 or 4501? I was just curious. Sean No. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] JP10, DC Power Connector
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Dudley writes: The documentation in the Net4801 manual says that you can directly feed +5 into pin 4. What I'm wondering about is whether I should also feed +12 into pin 3. I don't belive anything on the soekris uses the +12 directly and I have successfully run some with +5V via the DC connector, so I think feeding it +5 is plenty. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Choosing Compact flash (Was: Memory upgrade)
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bill Maas writes: Manufacturers obviously don't plug their cards into Soekris boxes for testing and benchmarking, so average speed in the lab (the 45 Mb/s claim) is not what the average end user will ever see;). In properly built cameras they will. The CF speed is measured using the CFA extension to the ATA command set, where erase operations are done as soon as possible, so that writes are straight writes to the flash array. Search for CFA ERASE SECTOR for more details. I'm working on support in FreeBSD. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] 5501 onboard USB
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mike Tancsa writes: Has anyone been able to use the onboard USB connection on the 5501 ? Is it JP7 ? If so is it a non standard connector ? I don't have the card in front of me, but yes, it works, standard connector. I used a header board from an Asus mobo. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] ATA DMA success on net5501?
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Louis Mamakos w rites: I just received a net5501 and am running FreeBSD 6.x (RELENG_6) on it. It has a 1GB CF card, and a 60GB ATA 2.5 IDE disk drive installed. I have problems with FreeBSD booting, hanging just after the probe/attach of the two ATA disks, unless I disable the DMA in / boot/loader.conf: Which bios version do you have ? There was a ATA DMA related issue until 1.32i (from memory). Poul-Henning -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Net4801 component identification help
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bernd Walter writes: On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 07:27:26AM -0500, Bob Camp wrote: Well - Søren wrote that it is rated for 2,5A, which is a lot of current and lot more than the Soekris requires. There must be a lot more current for the bead to blow that much. Actually, it might be the flank that killed the ferrite, not the raw current. A very sharp flank in the current passing through means a rapid change in magnetic field, and that can, in extreme cases, physically disintegrate the ferrite bead, either by mechanical means or thermal means, even at relatively moderate absolute current levels. This is, btw, exactly why the ferrite beard is there in the first place: to absorb high frequency (= sharp flanks) energy. The flank can be particularly sharp when power comes from lead-acid batteries that have no relevant internal resistance and flows into a capacitor which is essentially a zero ohm resistor until charged. I measured the inrush current peak on a 4801 just some days ago and found it to exceed by a good margin the 17A shutdown limit of the SSR switch I used. All that said, I'd be surprised if the ferrite is the only causalty. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Net4801 component identification help
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Poul-Henning Kamp writes: The flank can be particularly sharp when power comes from lead-acid batteries that have no relevant internal resistance and flows into a capacitor which is essentially a zero ohm resistor until charged. I should add, that this is why it is a good idea to put an inductor of suitable dimensions (physical electrical) in the power cable close to the battery to soften the flanks in such cases. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] do net5501 serial ports have control lines?
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Marc Balmer writes: A simple question... do the net5501 serial ports provide modem control lines that can be used to get at PPS signal from a GPS receiver? Yes. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] net5501 and CF + ATA + SATA
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Richa rd Storm writes: Hello! I am trying to get SATA and ATA and CF working together on net5501. You can't. SATA and PATA are exclusive, if you have an SATA disk connected PATA is disabled. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] net5501 and CF + ATA + SATA
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Rich ard Storm writes: The only illegal configs are those that have both PATA and SATA, any ther combination is possible. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Controlling Error LED's on 5501
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mike Tancsa writes: Yes, as soon as we finish debugging the remaining issues in -current I will mfc all that's necessary. Hi, Just wondering if there are still issues to be worked out ? It would be great if these fixes and enhancements would make it into 6.3R There is some doubt about some of my changes to if_vr, I'm trying to get that tested. The error-led and watchdog stuff is ready to be mfc'ed. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] net5501 boot trouble
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bill Maas writes: I rewired the cable and it works: RxD 2 --- 3 TxD TxD 3 --- 2 RxD DTR 4 --- 6 DSR DSR 6 --- 4 DTR RTS 7 7 RTS | | CTS 8 8 CTS | | DCD 1 1 DCD The traditional way is slightly different: TXD--RXD RXD--TXD DCD--DTR DSR/ DTR--DCD \DSR RTS RTS || CTS CTS The advantage being, that you don't trigger carrier loss if there is hardware flow-control involved on either side. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] net5501 boot trouble
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Steve Holdoway wri tes: I know it's a long time since I've done this, but shouldn't there be an earth on pin 5 as well??? I tacitly assumed people knew that :-) -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] [SOEKRIS] Unmouted LEDs D26 to D31 on net4801
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Anto ine Zen-Ruffinen writes: --===1378384426== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary==_Part_7697_21382784.1193066383666 --=_Part_7697_21382784.1193066383666 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hello list, I'm just asking me a little question about my net4801: Taking a close look to the board I discover that there was pads for LEDs that aren't mounted. Those pads are on the top of the board, next to Disk LED. There are labeled D26 to D31. Anyone now what are they LED signaling, if I mount them ? (I'm sure that Soren know if he has time, to answer...) I belive they are parallel'ed with the network activity LEDS -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
