Re: I am more thinking of the 4k monitor for as an animator's workstation.

2018-01-25 Thread Leoung O'Young 
For 3D it is probably not necessary.
But if we are going to view and edit the 4k animation in Aftereffect I 
would think it will be handy to have a 4K monitor.
This one is quite cheap for a 32", it looks like a no name brand. I may 
take a chance on it.

https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.primecables.ca_en_p-2D365178-2Dcab-2D27772-2D32in-2D4k-2D3840x2160-2Dhdr-2Dips-2Damd-2Dfreesync-2Dultra-2Dslim-2Dmonitor-2Dgun-2Dmetal-2Dwith-2Dslim-2Dbezel-2Dmonoprice-3Ffrom-5Fpla-3Dgoogle-26gclid-3DEAIaIQobChMI6Kyi0qrx2AIVkjRpCh1WzA5TEAQYAyABEgLFp-5FD-5FBwE&d=DwICaQ&c=76Q6Tcqc-t2x0ciWn7KFdCiqt6IQ7a_IF9uzNzd_2pA&r=GmX_32eCLYPFLJ529RohsPjjNVwo9P0jVMsrMw7PFsA&m=g1bFM9kRnaNT494pv6Usc_9W4S7eCywgL0xvifyeY4o&s=jcA-q_OK1XA-LKy58iaHMcqSxnGM7P89z08RnsUGnyw&e=
Leoung

On 1/25/2018 6:00 AM, Matt Lind wrote:
> Animators generally don't need 4K monitors as they mostly work in wireframe
> or shaded mode only care about broad details such as feet penetrating the
> floor.  Details like that are clearly visible even on 1080p monitors.  Even
> if they aren't, primitive rig devices can be set up to make it obvious, such
> as putting a colored plane where penetration may occur, or applying an
> expression to raise a flag.  Just examples.
>
> Artists working with color and lighting, on the other hand, may need 4K
> monitors.
>
> Matt
>
>
>
>
>
> Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2018 14:54:40 -0500
> From: "Leoung O'Young" 
> Subject: Re: Softimage 2015 R1 Redshift and 4K?
>
> I am more thinking of the 4k monitor for as an animator's workstation.
>
>
> --
> Softimage Mailing List.
> To unsubscribe, send a mail to softimage-requ...@listproc.autodesk.com with 
> "unsubscribe" in the subject, and reply to confirm.
>
>


--
Softimage Mailing List.
To unsubscribe, send a mail to softimage-requ...@listproc.autodesk.com with 
"unsubscribe" in the subject, and reply to confirm.

Re: I am more thinking of the 4k monitor for as an animator's

2018-01-25 Thread Mirko Jankovic 
Well if something is really needed is always open for discussion.
I mean when I was starting I was working on 15 inch crt monitor.
Could I use it all these years as well? Sure, no need for bigger.
But then again would I kept my eyesight good? ;)
--
Softimage Mailing List.
To unsubscribe, send a mail to softimage-requ...@listproc.autodesk.com with 
"unsubscribe" in the subject, and reply to confirm.

RE: I am more thinking of the 4k monitor for as an animator's

2018-01-25 Thread Sven Constable 
Maybe considering also the screen size and format. Most 4k displays are at
least 16:9 or even wider (21:10?) For my taste far too wide and doesn't
match the way I work. For animating I prefer to have Fcurves/dopesheet/mixer
below my viewport so I'd need more height than width. Of course we can
create own layouts for XSI to make use of any format.
My next monitors will be a pair of Eizos square format monitors. They have
only 1920x1920 pixel but that's enough for me.

Sven 

-Original Message-
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Matt Lind
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2018 2:58 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: I am more thinking of the 4k monitor for as an animator's

Yes, there are advantages to any new technology, but the question is whether
those advantages are "needed" at the premium price of being an early
adopter?  If you're trying to control costs and be practical, the answer is
usually no.  Waiting a little bit and buying when the price comes down is
often a better use of money.

I would love to have a new fangled computer with 10 processors each with 100
cores and multiple graphics cards with SLI linkage and VR everything, but do
I need it?  no.  My 10 year old computer still functions just fine for my
purposes.  In some ways, it's better as it exposes bottlenecks in my code
more readily than a faster computer which is so much more efficient it
effectively masks the problems I need to find and eradicate.

Not saying don't buy a 4K monitor.  Just saying it isn't needed for the
purpose given.

Matt



Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 12:47:40 +0100
From: Mirko Jankovic 
Subject: Re: I am more thinking of the 4k monitor for as an animator's
workstation.

Well actually 4k monitor does have it's advantages.
Nice big viewport where you can see all those details better is already a
plus, but having extra space to fire up graph editor and maybe some GUI
controls if they are available.. it helps.
Honestly I wouldn't go back to smaller...
As a matter of fact I'm even thinking about waiting for cintiq 32 inch 4k to
move to that. But need to figure out if it is worth all the cache :)


On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 12:00 PM, Matt Lind  wrote:

> Animators generally don't need 4K monitors as they mostly work in 
> wireframe or shaded mode only care about broad details such as feet 
> penetrating the floor.  Details like that are clearly visible even on 
> 1080p monitors.
> Even
> if they aren't, primitive rig devices can be set up to make it 
> obvious, such as putting a colored plane where penetration may occur, 
> or applying an expression to raise a flag.  Just examples.
>
> Artists working with color and lighting, on the other hand, may need 
> 4K monitors.
>
> Matt
>
>
>
>
>
> Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2018 14:54:40 -0500
> From: "Leoung O'Young" 
> Subject: Re: Softimage 2015 R1 Redshift and 4K?
>
> I am more thinking of the 4k monitor for as an animator's workstation.
>
>
> --
> Softimage Mailing List.
> To unsubscribe, send a mail to softimage-requ...@listproc.autodesk.com
> with "unsubscribe" in the subject, and reply to confirm.
>



--
Mirko Jankovic
*https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.cgfolio.com_mirko-2
Djankovic&d=DwIBaQ&c=76Q6Tcqc-t2x0ciWn7KFdCiqt6IQ7a_IF9uzNzd_2pA&r=GmX_32eCL
YPFLJ529RohsPjjNVwo9P0jVMsrMw7PFsA&m=kFH_WPLP3bizDVMXireAaS_3EzrzZz7qF_ybuck
JbZk&s=2mlat73IQAjldTkK6qOsWgn26997gC9R1xwS4RBRUjU&e=
<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.cgfolio.com_mirko-2
Djankovic&d=DwIBaQ&c=76Q6Tcqc-t2x0ciWn7KFdCiqt6IQ7a_IF9uzNzd_2pA&r=GmX_32eCL
YPFLJ529RohsPjjNVwo9P0jVMsrMw7PFsA&m=kFH_WPLP3bizDVMXireAaS_3EzrzZz7qF_ybuck
JbZk&s=2mlat73IQAjldTkK6qOsWgn26997gC9R1xwS4RBRUjU&e=>*

Need to find freelancers fast?
www.cgfolio.com

Need some help with rendering an Redshift project?
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.gpuoven.com_&d=DwIBa
Q&c=76Q6Tcqc-t2x0ciWn7KFdCiqt6IQ7a_IF9uzNzd_2pA&r=GmX_32eCLYPFLJ529RohsPjjNV
wo9P0jVMsrMw7PFsA&m=kFH_WPLP3bizDVMXireAaS_3EzrzZz7qF_ybuckJbZk&s=m3tGpzm_Oh
VokJsNYYKSQAnvvNzMr6puUkS1qUUN-IQ&e=
-- next part --
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: 
http://listproc.autodesk.com/pipermail/softimage/attachments/20180125/f4549b
1b/attachment.html

--

Message: 3
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 14:37:15 +0100
From: Alex Doss 
Subject: Re: Softimage 2015 R1 Redshift and 4K?
To: "Official Softimage Users Mailing List.
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__groups.google.com_forum
_-23-21forum_xsi-5Flist&d=DwIFAw&c=76Q6Tcqc-t2x0ciWn7KFdCiqt6IQ7a_IF9uzNzd_2
pA&r=GmX_32eCLYPFLJ529RohsPjjNVwo9P0jVMsrMw7PF

Re: I am more thinking of the 4k monitor for as an animator's

2018-01-25 Thread Matt Lind 
Yes, there are advantages to any new technology, but the question is whether 
those advantages are "needed" at the premium price of being an early 
adopter?  If you're trying to control costs and be practical, the answer is 
usually no.  Waiting a little bit and buying when the price comes down is 
often a better use of money.

I would love to have a new fangled computer with 10 processors each with 100 
cores and multiple graphics cards with SLI linkage and VR everything, but do 
I need it?  no.  My 10 year old computer still functions just fine for my 
purposes.  In some ways, it's better as it exposes bottlenecks in my code 
more readily than a faster computer which is so much more efficient it 
effectively masks the problems I need to find and eradicate.

Not saying don't buy a 4K monitor.  Just saying it isn't needed for the 
purpose given.

Matt



Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 12:47:40 +0100
From: Mirko Jankovic 
Subject: Re: I am more thinking of the 4k monitor for as an animator's
workstation.

Well actually 4k monitor does have it's advantages.
Nice big viewport where you can see all those details better is already a
plus, but having extra space to fire up graph editor and maybe some GUI
controls if they are available.. it helps.
Honestly I wouldn't go back to smaller...
As a matter of fact I'm even thinking about waiting for cintiq 32 inch 4k
to move to that. But need to figure out if it is worth all the cache :)


On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 12:00 PM, Matt Lind  wrote:

> Animators generally don't need 4K monitors as they mostly work in 
> wireframe
> or shaded mode only care about broad details such as feet penetrating the
> floor.  Details like that are clearly visible even on 1080p monitors. 
> Even
> if they aren't, primitive rig devices can be set up to make it obvious,
> such
> as putting a colored plane where penetration may occur, or applying an
> expression to raise a flag.  Just examples.
>
> Artists working with color and lighting, on the other hand, may need 4K
> monitors.
>
> Matt
>
>
>
>
>
> Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2018 14:54:40 -0500
> From: "Leoung O'Young" 
> Subject: Re: Softimage 2015 R1 Redshift and 4K?
>
> I am more thinking of the 4k monitor for as an animator's workstation.
>
>
> --
> Softimage Mailing List.
> To unsubscribe, send a mail to softimage-requ...@listproc.autodesk.com
> with "unsubscribe" in the subject, and reply to confirm.
>



-- 
Mirko Jankovic
*https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.cgfolio.com_mirko-2Djankovic&d=DwIBaQ&c=76Q6Tcqc-t2x0ciWn7KFdCiqt6IQ7a_IF9uzNzd_2pA&r=GmX_32eCLYPFLJ529RohsPjjNVwo9P0jVMsrMw7PFsA&m=kFH_WPLP3bizDVMXireAaS_3EzrzZz7qF_ybuckJbZk&s=2mlat73IQAjldTkK6qOsWgn26997gC9R1xwS4RBRUjU&e=
<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.cgfolio.com_mirko-2Djankovic&d=DwIBaQ&c=76Q6Tcqc-t2x0ciWn7KFdCiqt6IQ7a_IF9uzNzd_2pA&r=GmX_32eCLYPFLJ529RohsPjjNVwo9P0jVMsrMw7PFsA&m=kFH_WPLP3bizDVMXireAaS_3EzrzZz7qF_ybuckJbZk&s=2mlat73IQAjldTkK6qOsWgn26997gC9R1xwS4RBRUjU&e=>*

Need to find freelancers fast?
www.cgfolio.com

Need some help with rendering an Redshift project?
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.gpuoven.com_&d=DwIBaQ&c=76Q6Tcqc-t2x0ciWn7KFdCiqt6IQ7a_IF9uzNzd_2pA&r=GmX_32eCLYPFLJ529RohsPjjNVwo9P0jVMsrMw7PFsA&m=kFH_WPLP3bizDVMXireAaS_3EzrzZz7qF_ybuckJbZk&s=m3tGpzm_OhVokJsNYYKSQAnvvNzMr6puUkS1qUUN-IQ&e=
-- next part --
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: 
http://listproc.autodesk.com/pipermail/softimage/attachments/20180125/f4549b1b/attachment.html

--

Message: 3
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 14:37:15 +0100
From: Alex Doss 
Subject: Re: Softimage 2015 R1 Redshift and 4K?
To: "Official Softimage Users Mailing List.
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__groups.google.com_forum_-23-21forum_xsi-5Flist&d=DwIFAw&c=76Q6Tcqc-t2x0ciWn7KFdCiqt6IQ7a_IF9uzNzd_2pA&r=GmX_32eCLYPFLJ529RohsPjjNVwo9P0jVMsrMw7PFsA&m=X908I5RsJddq3HqXq1hz62LupPPCATcVlWpto6s-CWI&s=zhpqv44U92ketTHORJ8RzvaLZTGgIuzntYyHHRHk9JQ&e=";

Message-ID:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

U have to be real quick now.
The "funny" thing is that Nvidia is at least trying to regulate the
situation.
Funny, in quotes, coz its just unrealistic for it to try and regulate that:
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.polygon.com_2018_1_23_16921356_nvidia-2Dgraphics-2Dcards-2Dsold-2Dout-2Dcryptocurrency-2Dminers&d=DwIFaQ&c=76Q6Tcqc-t2x0ciWn7KFdCiqt6IQ7a_IF9uzNzd_2pA&r=GmX_32eCLYPFLJ529RohsPjjNVwo9P0jVMsrMw7PFsA&m=83fq0qK5NI_zCHl0RK_KuZSUVpY-QOvdvjqiYIn9uo4&s=M2W7zy0iWvUVS9z3WaNHePP3-UcY6GbzARPm7kFOEAQ&e=
A

On 25 January 2018 at 11:41, Ognjen

Re: I am more thinking of the 4k monitor for as an animator's workstation.

2018-01-25 Thread Mirko Jankovic 
Well actually 4k monitor does have it's advantages.
Nice big viewport where you can see all those details better is already a
plus, but having extra space to fire up graph editor and maybe some GUI
controls if they are available.. it helps.
Honestly I wouldn't go back to smaller...
As a matter of fact I'm even thinking about waiting for cintiq 32 inch 4k
to move to that. But need to figure out if it is worth all the cache :)


On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 12:00 PM, Matt Lind  wrote:

> Animators generally don't need 4K monitors as they mostly work in wireframe
> or shaded mode only care about broad details such as feet penetrating the
> floor.  Details like that are clearly visible even on 1080p monitors.  Even
> if they aren't, primitive rig devices can be set up to make it obvious,
> such
> as putting a colored plane where penetration may occur, or applying an
> expression to raise a flag.  Just examples.
>
> Artists working with color and lighting, on the other hand, may need 4K
> monitors.
>
> Matt
>
>
>
>
>
> Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2018 14:54:40 -0500
> From: "Leoung O'Young" 
> Subject: Re: Softimage 2015 R1 Redshift and 4K?
>
> I am more thinking of the 4k monitor for as an animator's workstation.
>
>
> --
> Softimage Mailing List.
> To unsubscribe, send a mail to softimage-requ...@listproc.autodesk.com
> with "unsubscribe" in the subject, and reply to confirm.
>



-- 
Mirko Jankovic
*https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.cgfolio.com_mirko-2Djankovic&d=DwIBaQ&c=76Q6Tcqc-t2x0ciWn7KFdCiqt6IQ7a_IF9uzNzd_2pA&r=GmX_32eCLYPFLJ529RohsPjjNVwo9P0jVMsrMw7PFsA&m=kFH_WPLP3bizDVMXireAaS_3EzrzZz7qF_ybuckJbZk&s=2mlat73IQAjldTkK6qOsWgn26997gC9R1xwS4RBRUjU&e=
*

Need to find freelancers fast?
www.cgfolio.com

Need some help with rendering an Redshift project?
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.gpuoven.com_&d=DwIBaQ&c=76Q6Tcqc-t2x0ciWn7KFdCiqt6IQ7a_IF9uzNzd_2pA&r=GmX_32eCLYPFLJ529RohsPjjNVwo9P0jVMsrMw7PFsA&m=kFH_WPLP3bizDVMXireAaS_3EzrzZz7qF_ybuckJbZk&s=m3tGpzm_OhVokJsNYYKSQAnvvNzMr6puUkS1qUUN-IQ&e=
--
Softimage Mailing List.
To unsubscribe, send a mail to softimage-requ...@listproc.autodesk.com with 
"unsubscribe" in the subject, and reply to confirm.

Re: I am more thinking of the 4k monitor for as an animator's workstation.

2018-01-25 Thread Matt Lind 
Animators generally don't need 4K monitors as they mostly work in wireframe 
or shaded mode only care about broad details such as feet penetrating the 
floor.  Details like that are clearly visible even on 1080p monitors.  Even 
if they aren't, primitive rig devices can be set up to make it obvious, such 
as putting a colored plane where penetration may occur, or applying an 
expression to raise a flag.  Just examples.

Artists working with color and lighting, on the other hand, may need 4K 
monitors.

Matt





Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2018 14:54:40 -0500
From: "Leoung O'Young" 
Subject: Re: Softimage 2015 R1 Redshift and 4K?

I am more thinking of the 4k monitor for as an animator's workstation.


--
Softimage Mailing List.
To unsubscribe, send a mail to softimage-requ...@listproc.autodesk.com with 
"unsubscribe" in the subject, and reply to confirm.