html:errors error?

2002-01-16 Thread Frank Lawlor

I just noticed that my error messages are acting strange.
I recently changed to a nightly build (approx 1/2).
For example, instead of getting the text:
  You must specify a Contact Name. 
I am now getting:
  null You must specify a Contact Name. null 
There are no substitution parms in the properties spec:
  error.no_contact_name=You must specify a Contact Name.
The html generated almost looks like there are two
null error entries:

font color=red bnull
You must specify a Contact Name.
null

but when I add my message the error array is empty.

Anyone else on a nightly build noticed any funny error messages?

Thanks,

Frank Lawlor
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Subclassing ActionMapping

2002-01-15 Thread Frank Lawlor

Struts makes it easy to subclass ActionForm, ActionServlet.
Is there a way to specify that ActionMapping is subclassed
and have struts create mappings for calls to the perform
methods that are of my subclass?

Thanks,

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Re: Indexed html:radio is broken

2002-01-09 Thread Frank Lawlor

 I could be mistaken, but this seems related 
 to the issue I noticed recently,
 which is that the property attribute (and 
 apparently, the name/property
 pair, in the indexed case) is improperly 
 overloaded to serve two purposes,

I agree with you that there are many ways one might want to 
map the collection to the radio buttons and the limited set
of html:radio properties can't handle all the reasonable things
one might want to do.

You should submit your proposal.  Can it handle the scenario
that Dave Hay also raised?

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Re: Indexed html:radio is broken

2002-01-09 Thread Frank Lawlor

 That way the buttons SHOULD all have 
 the same name for each iteration, and
 different one for the next one etc..  
 That was the thinking behind it.

Thanks for your quick and helpful response.

That is yet another reasonable interpretation of how
to map the collection to radio buttons.

There many reasonable ways one might want
to map the collection.  I think is important that

 1) the tag supports the reasonable mappings (e.g., how do
 I do what I wanted to do using the html:radio tag)

 2) since there are many possible mappings and how to do
 it is NOT AT ALL INTUITIVE there needs to be some 
 decent documentation and examples.

I think it would be good to start this process by defining some
of the mappings it should support.  This would include mapping
of the collection information to the button specs and the 
mapping of the button selection back to the collection (or
something else - e.g., makes sense to me to allow mapping of the
selected value to a single variable).  David Karr seems to have
some good suggestions.

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Indexed html:radio is broken

2002-01-08 Thread Frank Lawlor

Maybe I'm misunderstanding how to use html:radio with
indexed, but it seems broken to me.

If I specify:

 logic:iterate name=ListForm property=itemList id=item ... 
...
html:radio indexed=true name=item property=contact ... /

then it generates code like:

input type=radio name=item[0].contact ... 
input type=radio name=item[1].contact ... 
  ...

which puts every button in its own button group (the name
MUST stay the same)!

Further, the mapping of a button group to a collection opens
a lot of questions.  In trying to figure out how html:radio might
behave (the documentation is COMPLETELY lacking in 
semantic description!) I could think of several possible behaviors,
not all of which are exclusive.  This is even more true when
value is brought into the picture.

Is there some description somewhere of how this is supposed
to operate (the documentation on the website does NOT explain
any of this)?  What about examples (I found nothing useful in
the examples or the forum posts)?

Is this a bug?

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A suggestion for Product-quality Code

2002-01-07 Thread Frank Lawlor

Now that Struts has passed its 1.0 birthday
I would like to suggest something that I think
would help the many users it is attracting.

When I have lead development groups I have
explained one of the differences between a 
prototype and a product as programming for
more that the narrow path.  What I mean by
this is that a prototype can, and often should,
only worry about making things work so long 
as the user stays on some narrow path to the
goal (stray off the path and you die a horrible
death).

A product needs to be more robust.  In particular
it needs to expect that users WILL attempt.
out of ignorance, malice or inspiration, to use
it in ways not intended.  In the case of Struts
users, it can help their productivity if misuses are
clearly called to the developers attention.

Unfortunately, many of the likely Struts errors 
result simply in silence.  I have spent many 
hours tracking down problems (usually mine)
and even having to trace into Struts code to do
it.

Specifically, some of the problems I have run into
are:

- If the ActionForm name is not defined in struts-config, silence
- If the ActionForward string is not found, silence
- If no app.properties found, pretty close to silence
- if you say html:text indexed=yes (should be true), silence
  (note, the documentation implies it should be yes)
- If the ActionError type is not found, silence

In most of these cases exception and/or log entries 
would be very helpful.

Don't get me wrong.  Struts is great and the developers 
have done a great job (congratulations!), but now that 
it is attracting a wider following, it is time to also help 
the many developers be more productive.

Frank Lawlor
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RE: Struts intermittently not working after startup

2001-12-13 Thread Frank Lawlor

 Error 500: No action instance for path /findEntity could be created
 ...

I've gotten this type of thing when I'm changing any
of the action classes during development.  I assume
struts might be doing its own class loading and I'm
pulling the old class out from under it.  If you are
not modifying the classes, I don't know what might be
the cause.

By the way, is there any way to tell struts to 
re-initialize itself, including reloading the classes?

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RE: 500 Error

2001-12-13 Thread Frank Lawlor

 I just upgraded to Tomcat 4.01 and get the following exception:
 javax.servlet.ServletException: Servlet.init() for servlet jsp threw 
 exception
   at 
 org.apache.catalina.core.StandardWrapper.load(StandardWrapper.
 java:871)
 .
 java.lang.NoSuchMethodError
   at 
 org.apache.jasper.compiler.TldLocationsCache.processJars(TldLo
 cationsCache.java:202)

One possible cause of this is having an incorrect (usually
old) version of a class/jar in your path.  

  - Make sure you have installed all correct version of
any jars.
  - Make sure you don't put jars in the jre lib or lib/ext
dirs unless they belong there.
  - The above seems to indicate a problem with the
org.apache.jasper.compiler.TldLocationsCache class so
look to see where this is located (probably in some
jasper*.jar) and make sure its not an old one.  Tomcat
should have the correct version in jasper/jasper-compiler.jar

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RE: Dynamic SQL query library

2001-12-13 Thread Frank Lawlor

 While not politically correct I too use a CachedRowSet, 
 by setting a 
 property in my FromBean of rowset to accomplish this. For more see 
 http://developer.java.sun.com/developer/earlyAccess/crs
 Vic
 

Note, however, that CachedRowSet is no commercially redistributable
(Stated on the above reverence).

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RE: Struts Design question

2001-12-13 Thread Frank Lawlor

  But my beans already contain the validation! Besides, performing the
 validation in the ActionForm is effectively tying business logic (data
 validation) to the web framework dontya think?
 
 Well, I put data type and required field validation only in the bean.
 Validation that is more advanced than that, or based on business rules
 should be in your app server (if you have one), or in the 
 action object.
 

While the response might be OK in a specific solution,
I think it is, in general, the wrong partitioning
of the validation issue.  The questioner was more on
the correct track.

To understand the more general case, consider the
case where a company has a database(s) and is
developing multiple applications, some may even
be developed by 3rd parties.

How do they look at the data validation issue?
Any DB administrator will tell you HE/SHE is 
responsible for the DB integrity, not the 
(irresponsible :-) app developers:

  - The data integrity issues need to be defined
by those who really understand and are 
responsible for them.  This includes business
data rules.

  - You don't want to replicate the validation in
multiple applications.

  - You don't want to have to change multiple 
applications and the database simultaneously
if there are changes.

  - etc., etc., etc.

Note that this doesn't mean ALL validation is 
associated with the database, just that which 
relates to the data model and the business integrity of
the data base.  If one app requires certain data,
another app different data, and the database doesn't
care, then it is the application responsibility.

To address this we defined a set of objects which
front the database.  They worry not only about
validation, but also things specific to the database
(e.g. query language), connection pooling, etc.

To work well with web applications these objects 
need to have a validation interface that lets you
provide the total set of new (string?) data and allows 
the object to return field-specific and object-general
error information.

This is also a good place to place the common
business data rules (not application rules) so
that all applications use one common set, maintenance
is consistent, etc.

In VERY simple cases you could merge this with Action
classes, but generally there are significant differences,
no 1-1 relationship, etc.

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RE: File upload facility / file manager example app

2001-12-13 Thread Frank Lawlor

 Does anyone out there know of an opensource, java based  file upload
 facility or file manager app ???

You will have to check the licensing statements yourself
but two sources:

 - the struts source download has an upload app
 - the O'Reilly website has a very complete dicussion
   and sample code of this (search on upload).

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RE: Problem with Struts in IBM VisualAge 3.5.2

2001-12-13 Thread Frank Lawlor

 - Did you remove IBM's XML parser and install
   the correct Xerces version?

 - Did you add your application project to the
   Class Path | Project Path of the TomcatRunner
   class?

 - Check to make sure you have
   ...\VisualAge for
Java\ide\project_resources\Apache_Tomcat_Test_Environment\webapps\employeeli
st\WEB-INF\struts-config.xml

 - Make sure the struts-config.xml format is correct (start
   with a known good one just to check)

 - You don't have any security enabled
   (IBM\VisualAge for Java\ide\program\lib\security\java.policy)
   do you?  Make sure a simple app can open a file.

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RE: How to pass beans this way with Struts?

2001-12-11 Thread Frank Lawlor

 Frank Lawlor wrote:
  Because this needs to be open-ended and 
  dynamic, my project managers can easily
  define a new 'page type' and define the beans
  they will provide to these client pages.  To make this
  easy to use yet flexible, they use JSPs to define
  the beans to be passed for any page type.  E.g.:
 
 Ted Husted wrote

 The project managers would define ActionForm beans, and map these to
 Action in the Struts-config. You would then not need to 
 define the beans
 in the JSP. The Struts html:form tag takes care of this. It sees where
 you are submitting the form, and then looks for or creates the
 appropriate bean. No scriptlets needed. 
 ...

Thanks for the response.

My concern with this is that it means deploying new classes,
updating the config, possibly restarting the app, etc.  With
my current approach it usually just means the definition of
a simple JSP (understood technology) and uploading the file 
to a directory.

Then there is still the issue of dynamically invoking a 
client-defined JSP.  Currently I use an XML file to define
the dynamic JSPs.  There is an easy client interface to pick
the desired 'style' for any page type.  Using the struts
approach would mean some kind of dynamic generation of the
forwards and reprocessing.

I guess I'll have to see if I can integrate my current design
w/struts, but I hate having multiple ways of doing the same sort
of thing.


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How to pass beans this way with Struts?

2001-12-10 Thread Frank Lawlor

I'm new to Struts and trying to see how to best
map an existing app to Struts.

In my current app I let clients define certain
page types (e.g., 'home', 'contacts', etc.)  To
allow this and still have some security I put
the client pages in their own web app.  There
may be any number of these client pages
with any name.

To invoke them, I populate the request with beans
they may use and then forward to the client 
version of the page.

Because this needs to be open-ended and 
dynamic, my project managers can easily
define a new 'page type' and define the beans
they will provide to these client pages.  To make this
easy to use yet flexible, they use JSPs to define
the beans to be passed for any page type.  E.g.:

%
   ...
   com.athensgroup.autoweb_projects.AGTable table = 
  new com.athensgroup.autoweb_projects.AGTable(cons); 
   table.setTableTitle(Data-driven Contacts Table);
   table.setColumnNames(new String[]{Cons.NAME, 
  Cons.COMPANY, Cons.PHONE, Cons.EMAIL, Cons.ROLE});
   table.setColumnLabels(new String[]{Name, Company, 
  Phone, e-mail, Role});
   request.setAttribute(ContactsTable, table); 
%

First issue seems to be how to manage some arbitrary
number of app beans.  Do I need to map these into 
some one Form bean?  How can this be done when
these are an arbitrary number of these beans which may 
dynamically added for any given page 'type'?

The next question is how to forward to some page in
another app which is dynamically discovered.  I don't
see any way statically define the forwards (needs to
be dynamic).

If this is too hard for struts, can I just do my own 
includes, forwards, etc. as I do now without impacting 
the rest of the app which uses struts?


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Question/Issue with forward specifications

2001-12-06 Thread Frank Lawlor

In my code I had accidentally typed:
   return mapping.findForward(succcess);

(note the 3 c's)

Instead of getting a runtime error my app just went
nowhere?

1) why doesn't findForward() throw an exception
rather than returning null?

2) more generally, I am concerned about errors
that you cannot discover until runtime and then
only by ensuring you have tested every possible
situation.

One of the important things about Java is the
emphasis on catching things at compile time.
It would be good in the design of Struts to keep
some focus on allowing error detection at 
compile time, or at least at application init.

In the above case for example, there may be some way to
use static constants rather than strings.  It would
be good to look at some of the other Struts elements.

This may not seem like a big deal to some people,
but I remember well the 'bad old days' of maintaining
applications with interpreted code.  Runtime discovery
of bugs is a bad characteristic for quality apps.

Introspect, don't interpret.

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RE: Need help in Running employeelist example in VAJ3.5.3 and WTE

2001-12-04 Thread Frank Lawlor

 when i try to acess the application in browser
 
 http://localhost:808/employeelist/index.jsp
 
 it says  following error.
 
 An error has occured while processing
 request:http://localhost:8080/employeelist/index.jsp
 Message: Server caught unhandled exception from servlet [jsp]: Missing
 message for key index.heading

Take a look in the log files and see if there
are any errors or odd messages during initialization
of the app.


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RE: JDBCRealms

2001-12-04 Thread Frank Lawlor

 When using JDBCRealm with Tomcat, does anyone know if the 
 user's roles are
 loaded from the database for each request, or are they loaded 
 once and held
 in a session object?

I'm pretty sure the database is always queried.
If you have debug on you can see the calls.
This is important if you want to dynamically
change the roles.

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Missing message for key index.title - My Problem Found

2001-12-03 Thread Frank Lawlor

When I try to run the struts-example in Tomcat 4.0
(jre 1.3.1, NT 4, SP6) I get the infamous
Missing message for key index.title

I noticed tho, that the logs have an earlier exception
trying to load /WEB-INF/struts-config.xml:

2001-11-30 12:45:39 action: Initializing configuration from resource path
/WEB-INF/struts-config.xml
2001-11-30 12:45:39 StandardWrapper[/struts-example:action]: Marking servlet
action as unavailable
2001-11-30 12:45:39 StandardContext[/struts-example]: Servlet
/struts-example threw load() exception
javax.servlet.UnavailableException: Missing configuration resource for path
/WEB-INF/struts-config.xml
at
org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.initMapping(ActionServlet.java:1316)
at org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.init(ActionServlet.java:465)
  ...

The error is coming in ActionServlet.initMapping on the lines:
InputStream input = getServletContext().getResourceAsStream(config);
if (input == null)
throw new UnavailableException
(internal.getMessage(configMissing, config));
Changing the first line to
String path = getServletContext().getRealPath(config);
input = new java.io.FileInputStream(path);
throws a security exception!
(it doesn't seem right that getServletContext().getResourceAsStream(config)
swallows this!)

I have security on and it isn't allowing file access!

Unfortunately, I can't see a proper fix for this.
It should be possible to fix it by granting
permission in catalina.policy, but the spec
to give struts.jar permission, e.g.:
  grant codeBase
file:${catalina.home}/webapps/struts-example/WEB-INF/lib/- {
 permission java.security.AllPermission;
  };

doesn't work because of a Tomcat bug loading
libraries from /WEB-INF/lib.

Moving the lib to tomcat/common/lib also
seems to have problems with derived classes
in the /WEB-INF/classes classes.

HOWEVER, the tomcat bug can be worked around
by exploding struts.jar
into your /WEB-INF/classes directory.

This may not be everyone's solution to the infamous
Missing message for key index.title
(see post Missing message for key index.title - general comments).

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Missing message for key index.title - general comments

2001-12-03 Thread Frank Lawlor

I noticed lots of people having struts problems with this
symptom.

From what I have seen of the struts startup, many startup
problems will cause this to be the first symptom for the
example app.  This kind of one error for all situations
makes diagnosis difficult.

Looking in the log may clarify the problem, but I noticed
that some of the problems do not produce obvious log
entries (errors are swallowed).

I have some suggestions that struts (and web apps
generally) can use to help make it easier to debug
installation and other similar startup problems.

1) Don't just swallow errors without a clear error log
entry.  E.g., getServletContext().getResourceAsStream(config)
just swallows security exceptions.  Not good.  It does return 
a null, but this is not enough to identify the problem.

2) keep some type of structure in which some meaningful
message can be sent to the application interface.  For example,
initialization and other code can put some indication of the
problem in an Errors structure.  When the user makes a 
query the application (or struts infrastructure) can check to 
see if Errors is non-empty and display a special error 
page which will provide better help in diagnosing the problem.

3) install and config problems can be more easily diagnosed
by explicitly checking for necessary pre-conditions (e.g.,
file access, network access, etc.) and generating specific
errors.  This could be run separately or optionally as part
of init.

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Missing message for key index.title getResourceAsStream()

2001-11-30 Thread Frank Lawlor

When I try to run the struts-example in Tomcat 4.0
(jre 1.3.1, NT 4, SP6) I get the infamous
Missing message for key index.title

I notice tho, that the logs have an earlier exception
trying to load /WEB-INF/struts-config.xml:

2001-11-30 12:45:39 action: Initializing configuration from resource path
/WEB-INF/struts-config.xml
2001-11-30 12:45:39 StandardWrapper[/struts-example:action]: Marking servlet
action as unavailable
2001-11-30 12:45:39 StandardContext[/struts-example]: Servlet
/struts-example threw load() exception
javax.servlet.UnavailableException: Missing configuration resource for path
/WEB-INF/struts-config.xml
at
org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.initMapping(ActionServlet.java:1316)
at org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.init(ActionServlet.java:465)
  ...

The error is coming in ActionServlet.initMapping on the lines:
InputStream input = getServletContext().getResourceAsStream(config);
if (input == null)
throw new UnavailableException
(internal.getMessage(configMissing, config));

For some reason the getResourceAsStream() call is failing.  The xml file
IS there and I tried a lot of (valid) variations on the location and name
and
they all fail.  There seems to be something wrong with
getResourceAsStream().
Is this because it is in the init of the servlet?

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Missing message for key index.title - Problem Found

2001-11-30 Thread Frank Lawlor

I found the problem, at least in my installation,
and maybe for others.

I have security turned on.  This causes all the
application accesses to local files (e.g.,
properties, struts-config.xml, etc.) to fail.
This isn't apparent since many of the methods
seem to silently swallow the security exception.

Unfortunately, I can't see how to fix this.
It should be possible to fix it by granting
permission in catalina.policy, but the spec
to give struts.jar permission, e.g.:
  grant codeBase
file:${catalina.home}/webapps/struts-example/WEB-INF/lib/- {
 permission java.security.AllPermission;
  };

doesn't work because of a Tomcat bug loading
libraries from /WEB-INF/lib.

Moving the lib to tomcat/common/lib also
seems to have problems with derived classes
in the /WEB-INF/classes classes.

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Missing message for key index.title - Workaround

2001-11-30 Thread Frank Lawlor

One way to workarounf the Tomcat security
bug in loading libs is to explode struts.jar
into your /WEB-INF/classes directory.

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Please Unsubscribe Me!

2001-04-25 Thread Frank Lawlor

I've been trying without luck to unsubscribe with
the official mechanism even though my subscription
note says the userid IS correct.  Notes to
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have gotten no response.

subscriber id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
try also: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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and any capitalization variants on the above.

I'd appreciate anyone with access to the listserve
removing me from the list

Thanks,

Frank Lawlor
Athens Group, Inc.
(512) 345-0600 x151
Athens Group, an employee-owned consulting firm integrating technology
strategy and software solutions.






RE: (architectural issue/feature request) JavaBeans in Struts aren't flexible enough

2001-04-25 Thread Frank Lawlor

I agree 100%.  We do the same thing.  Most of our 
DBAccessor classes fill a HashMap from the DB 
tables and we use bean.getProperty(name) to access
them.

This means we do not need to do maitenance on the 
classes to add new properties.  Just add it to the
database and use it in the JSP.

This is much more extensible and maintainable.

Frank Lawlor
Athens Group, Inc.