Re: [freenet-support] Straw poll: Should Freenet require Javascript?
-BEGIN TYPE III ANONYMOUS MESSAGE- Message-type: plaintext In 201010151629.56896.t...@amphibian.dyndns.org Matthew Toseland t...@amphibian.dyndns.org wrote: We are considering making it impossible to use Freenet without a browser supporting Javascript. Yes or no answers would be useful (feel free to make further comments). I will post a similar poll to FMS. I suggest somebody does Frost, I personally don't use Frost. I say not only NO!, but HELL NO!. It's bad enough there are sites I use on the regular internet that require it in order to function. One of the things I've always liked about Freenet is the decided lack of javascript! -END TYPE III ANONYMOUS MESSAGE- ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
[freenet-support] Running Freenet On Dedicated Machine
-BEGIN TYPE III ANONYMOUS MESSAGE- Message-type: plaintext I've been away from Freenet 0.7 for quite a while and have decided to give it another try. The thing is though that I would like to have it run on a dedicated machine within my LAN and have browser access and apps such as Frost, Fuqid, Jsite and so on running from a separate machine. I also need to prevent access to administrative functions (such as shutdown) on the machine it's running on, instead having those functions only accessible from that separate computer. How much of a P.I.T.A. will this be to set up and is there a guide to doing so? -END TYPE III ANONYMOUS MESSAGE- ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
[freenet-support] Brazilian court bans p2p
-BEGIN TYPE III ANONYMOUS MESSAGE- Message-type: plaintext how does this precedent affect freenet? http://torrentfreak.com/brazilian-court-bans-p2p-software-090918/ -END TYPE III ANONYMOUS MESSAGE- ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0.7 build 1203
-BEGIN TYPE III ANONYMOUS MESSAGE- Message-type: plaintext In Matthew Toseland t...@amphibian.dyndns.org wrote: The real solution to browser history stealing is simply to use a separate browser for Freenet than the one you use for the wider web. We now warn users about this at the beginning of the first time wizard. ^^ That is one more reason for the suggestion of a separate UI that I made on freenet.uservoice.com. This is now largely accepted in the development team as a long-term goal. saces is working on something like this based on wxWindows. However, a dedicated browser/client (somewhere in between probably, e.g. there is no point in converting all the config pages to tabbed dialogs) would likely be a significant amount of work and require a significant amount of maintenance. So it's not a priority for 0.8.0. I hope that as Freenet moves to this new UI, somewhere in the days 0.8+++, that plain old browser support is not discontinued. There's plenty of us who know how to be secure with a browser and don't mind doing things like using a separate profile for the purpose with tighter settings. I think there's a lot of use who prefer to stay with that functionality rather than a shiny new whiz-bang UI. -END TYPE III ANONYMOUS MESSAGE- ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
[freenet-support] Freenet 0.7 build 1203
-BEGIN TYPE III ANONYMOUS MESSAGE- Message-type: plaintext In Matthew Toseland wrote: >>> > > The real solution to browser history stealing is simply to use a >>> > > separate >>> > > browser for Freenet than the one you use for the wider web. We now warn > users >>> > > about this at the beginning of the first time wizard. >> > >> > ^^ That is one more reason for the suggestion of a separate UI that I >> > made on freenet.uservoice.com. > > This is now largely accepted in the development team as a long-term goal. > saces is working on something like this based on wxWindows. However, a > dedicated browser/client (somewhere in between probably, e.g. there is no > point in converting all the config pages to tabbed dialogs) would likely be a > significant amount of work and require a significant amount of maintenance. > So it's not a priority for 0.8.0. I hope that as Freenet moves to this new UI, somewhere in the days 0.8+++, that plain old browser support is not discontinued. There's plenty of us who know how to be secure with a browser and don't mind doing things like using a separate profile for the purpose with tighter settings. I think there's a lot of use who prefer to stay with that functionality rather than a shiny new whiz-bang UI. -END TYPE III ANONYMOUS MESSAGE-
[freenet-support] Premix Routing
-BEGIN TYPE III ANONYMOUS MESSAGE- Message-type: plaintext I understand that premix routing is not scheduled to be implemented very soon but could you give any kind of rough estimate (as in a guess at a ball park calendar date) when it'll be in? -END TYPE III ANONYMOUS MESSAGE-
[freenet-support] Premix Routing
-BEGIN TYPE III ANONYMOUS MESSAGE- Message-type: plaintext I understand that premix routing is not scheduled to be implemented very soon but could you give any kind of rough estimate (as in a guess at a ball park calendar date) when it'll be in? -END TYPE III ANONYMOUS MESSAGE- ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Freenet 0.7 build 1066
This is a Type III anonymous message, sent to you by the F.L.U.G. (Firenze Linux User Group) mixminion server at firenze.linux.it. If you do not want to receive anonymous messages, please contact antani- admin at firenze.linux.it. For more information about anonymity, see https://remailer.firenze.linux.it or https://e-privacy.firenze.linux.it. -BEGIN TYPE III ANONYMOUS MESSAGE- Message-type: plaintext In Matthew Toseland wrote: >Maybe. What would the benefit be? Isn't it a good thing to have a fairly >homogenous topology, rather than automatically creating ubernodes? Not interested in an "ubernode", just that there are times I would like to reduce the limit from the default 20 to 5 or 10 (sometimes even 2 or 3) and then raise it back up when I'm not using the machine for something else. >On Wednesday 24 October 2007 06:00, [Anon] Anon User wrote: >> >> In Matthew Toseland wrote: >> >Freenet 0.7 build 1066 is available. It will be mandatory on the 30th of >> >October. It includes some fairly large changes including: >> >- Merge of JFK, a Summer of Code project to implement a new, better link >> >encryption setup protocol (we were using a form of STS). >> >- The opennet peers limit takes into account connected darknet peers, so as >> >you get more Friends you will lose Strangers. >> >> >> Could "opennet peers limit" be made configurable in freenet.ini/conf? >> >> Thanks -END TYPE III ANONYMOUS MESSAGE-
[freenet-support] Freenet 0.7 build 1066
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[freenet-support] When will openned be released?
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Re: [freenet-support] When will openned be released?
This is a Type III anonymous message, sent to you by the Winston Smith Project Nefarion mixminion server at nefarion.winstonsmith.info. If you do not want to receive anonymous messages, please contact pbox- [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more information about anonymity, see https://www.winstonsmith.info/pws or https://e-privacy.firenze.linux.it. -BEGIN TYPE III ANONYMOUS MESSAGE- Message-type: plaintext In JT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, are there any concrete plans yet for releasing opennet? Midyear? End of the year? *bump* ...rough guesstimation? -END TYPE III ANONYMOUS MESSAGE- ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7
This is a Type III anonymous message, sent to you by the Winston Smith Project Nefarion mixminion server at nefarion.winstonsmith.info. If you do not want to receive anonymous messages, please contact pbox- [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more information about anonymity, see https://www.winstonsmith.info/pws or https://e-privacy.firenze.linux.it. -BEGIN TYPE III ANONYMOUS MESSAGE- Message-type: plaintext In [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Freenet 0.5 is an opennet. You connect to any random node that happens to be on. Freenet 0.7 doesn't have this yet. In 0.7, there is no main network. There might be now, but the idea of the way it currently is setup is to allow small groups to connect without connecting to everyone else. Pretty much, there's nowhere for the content to go. It'd be like trying to move everything on the internet to your local LAN. That, and it's just a complete program re-write I believe. It's quite easy to 'convert' the content...open a page, save it, and then re-upload it. The data stores work differently, and anyways the data is distributed, so there wouldn't be any easy way to move it over. I don't know enough programming to do this, but I have an idea for a tool: Given that a user has an 0.5 node and a new 0.7 node import the data store. the tool would read the 0.5 store files, convert them to 0.7 format and then write them into the 0.7 store directories. Other than that, freesites will have to be saved in their entirety and then inserted into 0.7. Has FIW been fixed to work with 0.7? If it has, I'd be willing to help insert 0.5 content into 0.7 once I can get 0.7 working on windows98 I would also want to have enough refs to be able to guaranteed connectivity at all times. -END TYPE III ANONYMOUS MESSAGE- ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Campaigning for Open-Net [WAS Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0, 5 and 0, 7]
-BEGIN TYPE III ANONYMOUS MESSAGE- Message-type: plaintext In [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Through the opennet. Which won't exist for, like, a year. Hmmm. On 8/26/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Freenet 0.5 is an opennet. You connect to any random node that happens to be on. Freenet 0.7 doesn't have this yet. In 0.7, there is no main network. There might be now, but the idea of the way it currently is setup is to allow small groups to connect without connecting to everyone else. That is not true. Freenet 0.7 is designed to form one global network, not multiple independent networks consisting of small groups. Ian. Ian, How can freenet grow to be a global network unless someone in one group trades connection information with someone in another group? Hypothetical - A group of people in England, another in France, another in Russia, and another in China have grown individual trusted 0.7 freenets. No one in any of these groups knows someone in the other freenet group, and they don't want to just advertise in IRC chat to find someone to connect to because they don't know and trust this as a way to add people to their freenet. How will these freenet groups become a part of a global network? The answer is simple. Without open-net and at least some reasonable percentage of nodes operating as part of both open and dark nets, 0.7 will NEVER become part of any global network. It will instead be limited, broken into hundreds or thousands of little 'island netowrks' Open-net is required to tie these islands into a global network. I will repeat something I read on frost recently, We should all start pestering the hell outta both Ian and Toad to get open-net deployed. -END TYPE III ANONYMOUS MESSAGE- ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Campaigning for Open-Net [WAS Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0, 5 and 0, 7]
-BEGIN TYPE III ANONYMOUS MESSAGE- Message-type: plaintext In <35af28770608261648v10edeb06mee2478eebf1be3b0 at mail.gmail.com> urza9814 at gmail.com wrote: >Through the opennet. Which won't exist for, like, a year. >Hmmm. > >On 8/26/06, diddler4u at hotmail.com wrote: >> >>Freenet 0.5 is an opennet. You connect to any random node that happens >> >>to be on. Freenet 0.7 doesn't have this yet. In 0.7, there is no main >> >>network. There might be now, but the idea of the way it currently is >> >>setup is to allow small groups to connect without connecting to >> >>everyone else. >> > >> >That is not true. Freenet 0.7 is designed to form one global network, not >> >multiple independent networks consisting of small groups. >> > >> >Ian. >> >> Ian, >> >> How can freenet grow to be a global network unless someone in one group >> trades connection information with someone in another group? >> >> Hypothetical - A group of people in England, another in France, another in >> Russia, and another in China have grown individual trusted 0.7 freenets. No >> one in any of these groups knows someone in the other freenet group, and >> they don't want to just advertise in IRC chat to find someone to connect to >> because they don't know and trust this as a way to add people to their >> freenet. How will these freenet groups become a part of a global network? The answer is simple. Without open-net and at least some reasonable percentage of nodes operating as part of both open and dark nets, 0.7 will NEVER become part of any global network. It will instead be limited, broken into hundreds or thousands of little 'island netowrks' Open-net is required to tie these islands into a global network. I will repeat something I read on frost recently, "We should all start pestering the hell outta both Ian and Toad to get open-net deployed." -END TYPE III ANONYMOUS MESSAGE-
[freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7
This is a Type III anonymous message, sent to you by the Winston Smith Project Nefarion mixminion server at nefarion.winstonsmith.info. If you do not want to receive anonymous messages, please contact pbox- admin at winstonsmith.info. For more information about anonymity, see https://www.winstonsmith.info/pws or https://e-privacy.firenze.linux.it. -BEGIN TYPE III ANONYMOUS MESSAGE- Message-type: plaintext In <35af28770608241201n680631f1v158485f8cdc4073 at mail.gmail.com> urza9814 at gmail.com wrote: >Freenet 0.5 is an opennet. You connect to any random node that happens >to be on. Freenet 0.7 doesn't have this yet. In 0.7, there is no main >network. There might be now, but the idea of the way it currently is >setup is to allow small groups to connect without connecting to >everyone else. Pretty much, there's nowhere for the content to go. >It'd be like trying to move everything on the internet to your local >LAN. >That, and it's just a complete program re-write I believe. It's quite >easy to 'convert' the content...open a page, save it, and then >re-upload it. The data stores work differently, and anyways the data >is distributed, so there wouldn't be any easy way to move it over. > I don't know enough programming to do this, but I have an idea for a tool: Given that a user has an 0.5 node and a new 0.7 node import the data store. the tool would read the 0.5 store files, convert them to 0.7 format and then write them into the 0.7 store directories. Other than that, freesites will have to be saved in their entirety and then inserted into 0.7. Has FIW been fixed to work with 0.7? If it has, I'd be willing to help insert 0.5 content into 0.7 once I can get 0.7 working on windows98 I would also want to have enough refs to be able to guaranteed connectivity at all times. -END TYPE III ANONYMOUS MESSAGE-
[freenet-support] Which Linux for freenet?
-BEGIN TYPE III ANONYMOUS MESSAGE- Message-type: plaintext It sounds like a stupid question perhaps, but I'm currently on windows and am giving serious thought and study time to at minimum switching to a windows - - linux dual boot arrangment. So far I'm leaning toward either Debian or Mandriva, does freenet prefer one better than the other? Or does it matter much if it's one of the 'mainstream' distro's? Thanks -END TYPE III ANONYMOUS MESSAGE- ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
