Re: [freenet-support] Freenet Project health
On Sat, 10 Jul 2004, Nicholas Sturm wrote: helping matters much. It's hoped this will change when one of the Free Software implementations of Java (gcj, Kaffe) becomes more stable wrt Freenet. I lost the meaning in the last sentence. What was intended by wrt? with-respect-to ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Re: [freenet-dev] Retiring from the project
On Tue, 25 May 2004, Ian Clarke wrote: That is a shame. Clearly I don't agree with your reasoning, there is no evidence that any other language would not have similar or worse issues (consider the amount of time we would spend dealing with memory leaks and array overflows had we implemented in C++). As for focus, our Not to mention the issues with portability on a C/C++ implementation. ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] PayPal, ISPs and freedom of speech
motivated. Is money worth losing our freedom for? I don't think so but a lot of shareholders probably disagree with me (because they're rich and can effect political maneuvering). Welcome to Babylon! It's going to get to the point where everyone needs to run a freenet node just to have secure private email conversations. Problem is getting everyone you know and transfer email with to run freenet nodes (and some of them may have hardware incapable of running a node effectively). LOL. Ever heard of PGP? Problem with PGP is that the recipient also needs PGP to be able to read the email from senders using PGP this is not typically the case in most email cases. For instance this list doesn't support PGP transport (otherwise the subscription options would necessarily include an exchange of public keys so that you could send/receive PGP encapsulated email to the mailing list). ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Here's the bounce reply (the list WILL block subscribers on DSL addresses running their own MTAs)
From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue May 18 09:25:34 2004 Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 09:24:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Mail Delivery Subsystem MAILER-DAEMON To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details The original message was received at Tue, 18 May 2004 09:24:32 -0700 (PDT) from localhost.enugen.net [127.0.0.1] - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - [EMAIL PROTECTED] (reason: 554 Service unavailable; Client host [24.71.255.81] blocked using dul.dnsbl.sorbs.net; Dynamic IP Address See: http://www.dnsbl.sorbs.net/cgi-bin/lookup?IP=24.71.255.81) - Transcript of session follows - ... while talking to a.mx.freenetproject.org.: DATA 554 Service unavailable; Client host [24.71.255.81] blocked using dul.dnsbl.sorbs.net; Dynamic IP Address See: http://www.dnsbl.sorbs.net/cgi-bin/lookup?IP=24.71.255.81 554 5.0.0 Service unavailable 554 Error: no valid recipients [ Part 2: Delivery Status ] Reporting-MTA: dns; ruby.enugen.net Received-From-MTA: DNS; localhost.enugen.net Arrival-Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 09:24:32 -0700 (PDT) Final-Recipient: RFC822; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Action: failed Status: 5.0.0 Remote-MTA: DNS; a.mx.freenetproject.org Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 554 Service unavailable; Client host [24.71.255.81] blocked using dul.dnsbl.sorbs.net; Dynamic IP Address See: http://www.dnsbl.sorbs.net/cgi-bin/lookup?IP=24.71.255.81 Last-Attempt-Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 09:24:48 -0700 (PDT) [ Part 3: Included Message ] Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 09:24:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Christopher Brian Jack [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Freenet Support Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: I'm sending this message directly thru my MTA without smarthosting thru my ISP This is the message I am attempting to send to the list to test for a bounced mail. If I get a bounce as I mentioned I'll text export the bounce reply and post the error. ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] mailing list subscriber email should bypass spam blockers
What exactly happens? I don't think the spam filtering we have on dodo would arbitrarily discard messages from DSL hosts, they might be slightly more likely to be held... It seems dodo is using the blacklist server SORBS (www.dnsbl.sorbs.net). This definately will discard messages from a majority of hobbyist residential internet sites (read: cannot afford business accounts which offer static IP addressing) running their own MTAs. If you click on the Check Entry button on this page, you will find the reason for rejection. I know all about SORBS and its overzealous blocking policy. ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Here's the bounce reply (the list WILL block subscribers on DSL addresses running their own MTAs)
On Tue, 18 May 2004, Jay Oliveri wrote: Don't wait for someone to implement what you've suggested (allowing direct SMTP connections from a dynamic IP); there's enough work to do without building these kinds of things that just lead to constant maintenance. There's nothing preventing you from using another SMTP gateway; it doesn't have to be your ISP, it just has to answer to a DNS reverse lookup (or something like that). GMane, Yahoo!, GMX, etc. Any smarthost is bad becuase any of them can potentially analyze your email going through it (they don't even need to do that; they can just inspect the headers in the MTA logfile). With the whole PayPal thing how long before ISPs start using *their* TOSes as weapons against freenet particpants. There are a lot more ISPs than PayPal's around meaning there could be a lot more people that disagree with FreeNet's principles. An ISP could do the exact same thing to someone participating in freenet either as a node or by participating on one of their mailing lists in a similar manner to how PayPal suspended the FreeNet donation account. All they'd have to do is look through their MTA log and see the destination (they wouldn't even need to see the message data) then do their thing - that user is involved with something to do with open proxies - let's suspend his/her account for TOS violation ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] PayPal, ISPs and freedom of speech
The ISP can monitor your email even if they don't relay your mail.. With the whole PayPal thing how long before ISPs start using *their* TOSes as weapons against freenet particpants. Only if they get scared. Unfortunately it is depressingly easy to detect nodes at present, we haven't removed the session negotiation (and other) bytes yet... Were the shareholders (or Disney, RIAA, MPAA, et al.) that disagree with freenet/P2P principles to get on an ISP(s)'s case with FUD... I have no money but I wager 2 binary digits that one of the above mentioned entities had something to do with PayPal's action taken against the freenet donation account. I also wager that a transfer of a large not-officially-disclosed amount of money or shares between higher-ups in PayPal and said entity(ies) had something to do with the process. Put short: I smell a payoff arrangement. There are a lot more ISPs than PayPal's around meaning there is statistically a lot more people that disagree with FreeNet's principles wokring for ISPs. ISP could do the exact same thing to someone participating in freenet either as a node or by participating on one of their mailing lists in a similar manner to how PayPal suspended the FreeNet donation account. All they'd have to do is look through their MTA log and see the destination (they wouldn't even need to see the message data) then do their thing ... Not very likely, but I personally run a mailserver on my box too. Unfortunately I started getting bounces for reasons similar to the This could easily have been an ISP rather than PayPal. Furthermore whatever or whoever convinced PayPal to make this decision, having been successful in his/her/its efforts, may progress and continue their agenda now that they have determined that their method of warfare against the freenet project is having success. above. Now I forward my mail through dodo.freenetproject.org via an SSL tunnel (no, we do not provide this service to anyone but core developers!). All the trends show that freedoms of speech and press are disintegrating in all areas of the world and that the decline of these freedoms is capitalist-consumer-economically and sometimes socio-theologically motivated. Is money worth losing our freedom for? I don't think so but a lot of shareholders probably disagree with me (because they're rich and can effect political maneuvering). It's going to get to the point where everyone needs to run a freenet node just to have secure private email conversations. Problem is getting everyone you know and transfer email with to run freenet nodes (and some of them may have hardware incapable of running a node effectively). ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] mailing list subscriber email should bypass spam blockers
And to further the mail objection against having to use my ISP's mailer to talk to *this* list is that Shaw in theory can now look at my mail traffic and if they don't like the Freenet project, could suspend my internet account in a similar manner to how PayPal suspended yours. Please, please, please FIX this and allow direct MTA connections from subscribed members only. Having to go thru the ISP mail server is a MAJOR privacy concern for me (I know from sysadmin experience that they can look at any mail passing thru their server at any time). Just remember every ISP you're forcing subscribers to send their mail through may be the next 'PayPal'. Also note that you have an identity of the sender (they subscribed after all) so if you get a spam from a subscriber you know who to tar and feather so there's no reason to use the overzealous IP blocking services on mailing list subscribers. ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] (fwd) Re: paypal (Re: Returned mail: see transcript for details)
Um, perhaps your mailsever should check for subscriber addresses *before* it runs the overzealous spam filtering services? The message I tried to send (I am a subscribed member and think getting blocked like this is BS) is at the very bottom -- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 12:38:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Christopher Brian Jack [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Freenet Support Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: (fwd) Re: paypal (Re: Returned mail: see transcript for details) On Mon, 17 May 2004, it was written: Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from localhost (localhost) by ruby.enugen.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) id i4HJVc2m010539; Mon, 17 May 2004 12:31:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from MAILER-DAEMON) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 12:31:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Mail Delivery Subsystem MAILER-DAEMON Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status; boundary=i4HJVc2m010539.1084822298/ruby.enugen.net Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (failure) This is a MIME-encapsulated message --i4HJVc2m010539.1084822298/ruby.enugen.net The original message was received at Mon, 17 May 2004 12:31:14 -0700 (PDT) from localhost.enugen.net [127.0.0.1] - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - [EMAIL PROTECTED] (reason: 554 Service unavailable; Client host [24.71.255.81] blocked using dul.dnsbl.sorbs.net; Dynamic IP Address See: http://www.dnsbl.sorbs.net/cgi-bin/lookup?IP=24.71.255.81) - Transcript of session follows - ... while talking to a.mx.freenetproject.org.: DATA 554 Service unavailable; Client host [24.71.255.81] blocked using dul.dnsbl.sorbs.net; Dynamic IP Address See: http://www.dnsbl.sorbs.net/cgi-bin/lookup?IP=24.71.255.81 554 5.0.0 Service unavailable 554 Error: no valid recipients --i4HJVc2m010539.1084822298/ruby.enugen.net Content-Type: message/delivery-status Reporting-MTA: dns; ruby.enugen.net Received-From-MTA: DNS; localhost.enugen.net Arrival-Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 12:31:14 -0700 (PDT) Final-Recipient: RFC822; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Action: failed Status: 5.0.0 Remote-MTA: DNS; a.mx.freenetproject.org Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 554 Service unavailable; Client host [24.71.255.81] blocked using dul.dnsbl.sorbs.net; Dynamic IP Address See: http://www.dnsbl.sorbs.net/cgi-bin/lookup?IP=24.71.255.81 Last-Attempt-Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 12:31:29 -0700 (PDT) --i4HJVc2m010539.1084822298/ruby.enugen.net Content-Type: message/rfc822 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from ruby.enugen.net (localhost.enugen.net [127.0.0.1]) by ruby.enugen.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i4HJVE2m010537 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 17 May 2004 12:31:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Received: from localhost ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) by ruby.enugen.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) with ESMTP id i4HJVDLX010534 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 17 May 2004 12:31:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) X-Authentication-Warning: ruby.enugen.net: brian owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 12:31:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Christopher Brian Jack [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Freenet Support Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PayPal Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm guessing the next people they freeze are going to be people that have their picture on their website and they appear to be northeastern Saudi Arabian becuase they might be laundering funds for terrorism? Your situation needs answers. Unfortunately PayPal is probably pretty well legally grounded and there won't be much you can do. And to date I haven't read a slashdot post about it yet. Maybe you should suggest people start sending money orders to the project maintainers directly? Another suggestion, what about SourceForge's donation system, or does THAT go thru paypal too? Of all the open source projects, how many of THEM pertain to some sort of anonymization project? Is PayPal going to freeze them too? You might want to ask the sourceforge people for help on this one. --i4HJVc2m010539.1084822298/ruby.enugen.net-- ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] More Freenet Problems
On Wed, 31 Mar 2004, Ian Clarke wrote: Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 10:00:22 +0100 From: Ian Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Steven [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [freenet-support] More Freenet Problems On Wed, 2004-03-31 at 04:03, Steven wrote: After recently being It appears to be running my node properly, but I am still unable to get Fred working. Whenever I go to http://127.0.0.1:/ I get a 500 error. Any idea what the problem might be? Hmm... I have a problem similar to this when I run Fred in Windows XP Try http://localhost: On my system http://127.0.0.1: doesn't work no matter what I do it has to be localhost or it doesn't work ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Stable build 5076
On Wed, 17 Mar 2004, Toad wrote: Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 16:09:24 + From: Toad [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [freenet-support] Stable build 5076 Freenet stable build 5076 is now available. The snapshots have been updated. You can get the build via the update.sh script on Linux, BSD, or OS/X, or use the freenet-webinstall.exe utility to update on Windows, or get the jar from http://freenetproject.org/snapshots/freenet-latest.jar . All stable branch users should upgrade. Major changes: * Make 5074 mandatory. Most nodes seem to have upgraded... This is necessary for the next item. * Send the minRequestInterval on the IdentifyPacketMessage, a message that is exchanged when a connection is opened. This will improve the accuracy of rate limiting. * Fix a serious bug in the new NGRoutingTable discard-sort order (i.e. the algorithm that decides which node to drop when we want to drop a node from the routing table). The bug would have caused new nodes that can't be connected to to persist in the routing table forever. It was introduced in 5075. How does this stable build compare to unstable 60012? ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] (no subject)
Umm, how often does the unstable build revise? It's already advanced today twice. The 60013 build seems to be badly connected. The only activelink my servlet main page can get successfully is Dolphin's site. Is this a bug or a feature? ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] doctype and other html tags through fproxy
!DOCTYPE, instead of !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC blah blah The test site I inserted into my own node did have a full doctype tag when I wrote it, but it didn't when I retrieved it, it just had !DOCTYPE. Is this due to fproxy's anonymity filter? If so, why does it remove/shorten them? Also, I've noticed that the default gateway page does have a full doctype tag, why, if is fproxy that removes the tags from freesites, does it let this one through? This is a very likely possibility because the doctype makes reference to a W3C DTD which is a public internet link. The annonymity filter needs to remove references to internet sites since most browsers will send a referral URL that invades your privacy (it essence if the web browser goes to the validation site it will do so with the address of the page you are viewing. This invades your privacy becomes someone reading the access logs can find out what freesite you were visiting). The government could subpoena W3C's weblogs to find out about freesite accesses and they'll have an IP number attached to the visit to their site so the referral freesite URI + the IP number access in W3C's log could be used against you if the material you were accessing is outlawed in the jurisdiction of W3C's server or any government system that sees packets along the route to W3C. They could visit the same freesite by the referal URI and find out what book you were reading at the time 2. I have noticed on some pages they have this sort of section in the header: !--index titleThe Freedom Engine/title categoryIndex/category descriptionThe mother of all freesite link lists./description activelinkActiveLink.jpg/activelink address typeDBR/address type authorCofE/author -- These are the meta tags used by freesites to support their inclusion onto the various indexing freesites. title - ovbious, this is the site's name category - what kind of site is this? I don't have knowledge about what acceptable values for this are description - textual description of the freesite activelink - the site icon to be associated with your freesite (think like the little banner icons many people put onto their regular internet websites for people to link to them with) addresstype - again I'm iffy on all the acceptable values but DBR AFAIK means the address of this freesite permutates automatically to a different site name either daily or weekly at midnight GMT. A site marked as DBR has to reinsert itself at the new DBR generated redirect key or the site effectively disappears (unless you select go to earlier site in the error screen that comes up for references to DBR sites that haven't been updated yet [or your routing can't find the new content yet]). The alternative to DBR is to using revisions by putting an integer in the URI part of your site. You start the integer at 1 on your first insertion of the site. Your site forward references a number of 'editions' ahead (that you have not yet inserted) by refering to the same uri echanging 1 for 2, 2,3 3,4 etc for several steps (usally four or five). You have an activelink image on each edition so on the existing (edition 1) page shows up for edition 1. If you haven't inserted a new edition then the other activelinks show up as broken images. But if at somepoint you insert with the integer now set to 2 the #2 activelink comes alive and the visitor to the #1 site now knows (by the unbroken activelink) that a second edition is now available. To be nice to people that might want to check on older content your edition list should be design so that when more editions are available that your have edition links that you put forward and at least one previous edition so the users can backtrack the editions of your freesite. ie: site using 5 edition links (the numbers in [] would be your edition activelinks) first edition: [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] second edition: [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] third edition: [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] fourth edition: [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] fifth edition: [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] sixth edition: [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] The edition list 'scrolls' as you have more editions than links the user can still follow the backlinks to get to previous editions. Or you can keep a permanent edition list with at least one forward edition link). You'd probably do it with buckets. This following setup would let you do four editions before having having to add another row for the next five editions: while publishing edition 1-4: [ 1] [ 2] [ 3] [ 4] [ 5] while publisihing edition 5-9: [ 1] [ 2] [ 3] [ 4] [ 5] [ 6] [ 7] [ 8] [ 9] [10] while publisihing edition 10-14: [ 1] [ 2] [ 3] [ 4] [ 5] [ 6] [ 7] [ 8] [ 9] [10] [11] [12] [12] [14] [15] while publisihing edition 15-19: [ 1] [ 2] [ 3] [ 4] [ 5] [ 6] [ 7] [ 8] [ 9] [10] [11] [12] [12] [14] [15] [16] [17] [18] [19]
RE: [freenet-support] Stable build 5075 - snapshots lagging behind?
On Sun, 14 Mar 2004, Kevin Bennett wrote: Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 08:17:48 - From: Kevin Bennett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [freenet-support] Stable build 5075 - snapshots lagging behind? FYI: The snapshots don't appear to have been updated. 08:15 GMT Sunday, and I'm still getting 5074 from freenet-latest.jar. Even on march 13th around 8-9pm PST it's still getting 5074... ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] How do I add node refs to my node's routing table?
I am having trouble trying to interconnect friends' freenodes. The give
me their node's reference but I keep getting complaints that the ref does
not contain an estimator fieldset. Is there a way to generate complete
files that have all the required information?
Each node has different routing tables so I'd like to be able to use the
nodes together to increase the available search path within a couple hops
or so.
Any way to do this so that the connections stay permanent?
Im trying to have the nodes work like this
} a.b.c.dA.B.C.D {
a's routes } -= nodeA -- nodeB -= { b's routes
}{
I'm hoping this configration will help connectivity a bit and reduce the
dreaded RNFs and DNFs.
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Re: [freenet-support] How do I add node refs to my node's routing table?
On Sun, 14 Mar 2004, Jay Oliveri wrote:
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 16:34:38 -0500
From: Jay Oliveri [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [freenet-support] How do I add node refs to my node's
routing table?
After reading your emails for the last 2 days I have no clue what you're
trying to do. You were first using stable, then unstable. Then a friend's
node, then nodes on 2 different networks (i can only assume stable
unstable).
So what is it again you're trying to do? (I dont' understand the A's routes
vs. B's routes argument either).
get the two nodes to interoperate with each other. I would suspect this
could be done by adding each node's ref to the other node's seedfile
I am having trouble trying to interconnect friends' freenodes. The give
me their node's reference but I keep getting complaints that the ref does
not contain an estimator fieldset. Is there a way to generate complete
files that have all the required information?
Each node has different routing tables so I'd like to be able to use the
nodes together to increase the available search path within a couple hops
or so.
Any way to do this so that the connections stay permanent?
Im trying to have the nodes work like this
} a.b.c.dA.B.C.D {
a's routes } -= nodeA -- nodeB -= { b's routes
}{
node a has one set of routes, b another set
nodeA and nodeB run on separate networks
but the goal is to have A and B permanently connect to each other so the A
can take advnatage of B's nodes and A's nodes can take advantage of B's.
Why is this so diifuclt to understand, what am I not explainging right?
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Re: [freenet-support] How do I add node refs to my node's routing table?
Yes, provided they are compatible builds. There are two freenet's
maintained by the freenetproject; stable and unstable. They are seperate
networks that do not communicate with each other.
Btoh nodes are running NV 0.5, PV STABLE-1.50, BN 5074, CVS
1.90.2.50.2.101
When you say Each node has different routing tables so I'd like to be able
to use the nodes together to increase the available search path within a
couple hops or so, are you saying these two nodes are on different tcp/ip
networks, or one node is from stable and another from unstable?
different TCP/IP networks
give me their node's reference but I keep getting complaints that the
ref does not contain an estimator fieldset. Is there a way to
generate complete files that have all the required information?
Each node has different routing tables so I'd like to be able to use
the nodes together to increase the available search path within a
couple hops or so.
} a.b.c.dA.B.C.D {
a's routes } =- nodeA -- nodeB -= { b's routes
}{
nodeA and nodeB are two different freenet nodes operating at separate IP
numbers nodeA has a set of routes, a's routes and nodeB has a set of
routes b's routes. I would like nodeA and nodeB to have a persitent
connection between each other in order to be able to use each other's
routes.
I'm getting way too many RNF/DNFs so any way to expand the available
routing would be a welcome thing either node. about 60% of the time it
doesn't even get off the originating node. I've tried putting each
other's node's ref into the seedfile but the nodes don't seem to want to
use them. As I said earlier the windows version just complains that there
are no estimator fieldsets for the noderef and won't import it.
On the freebsd node (at the other IP number) the only way I've gotten it
to use the other node is by making it the only entiry in the seedfile.
This had the disadvantage that not only was is restricted to whereever the
windows node could get to its available freenet routes, but to my
shock, it wasn't learning about visitors as many freenet docs have
suggested the node should be able to. Nodes would connect and it even
made outbound connections but it's list of available routes under the node
status subsection still reported only one host in the routing table.
I've ruled out firewall issues on both sides becuase both sides can
negotiate outbound connections and receive inbound connections. I've also
double check in the environment and the node are reporting the correct
WAN-side router IP numbers and access ports.
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[freenet-support] Finding out about if freenet node is learning
I wonder if you could add one more binomial graph to the node status: number of nodes discovered - nodes already known This would be useful for determining if the freenet node is learning about the freenetwork topography. Or is there already a way to determine if a node is learning about new ones? ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Manually adding freenodes
I have two freenodes running on separate networks (some stuff works, and other stuff doesn't on one, and vice versa for the other) How can I manually reference the nodes to each other? (Hopefully this will allow the freenodes to share their routes and allows both nodes to see all the content available to each node separately). ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] specifed IPAddress but my node is still trying to autodetect
How do I stop my node from trying to autodetect when I've specified the IP address. Version 0.5 STABLE-1.50 build 5074 cvs 1.90.2.50.2.101 ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Usability improvement ideas
There _has_ to be a question when installing asking the user if he/she pays for bandwidth (esp outgoing) and set the configuration in Freenet accordingly - bad press resulting from Joe Doe installing Freenet and getting $1000 bills (think NZ, OZ) isn't good. Hmm. Good idea. However, I'm not sure that you CAN run a freenet ndoe with any reasonable performance if it's limited to 3GB/mo as is common in oz. Technically, the solution is the average bandwidth limiter. However this is not known to work well (it is pretty much untested since NIO), mostly because no developers have that sort of connection. Perhaps we should put some effort in, but I'm not sure that it's proportionate as users with such connections won't get much out of or contribute much to Freenet. Yes, it might be useful for the occasional content author, so it IS worth thinking about; it's just that they'll be put off by the dire performance implied. But I'm not a developer and I do need to keep a leash on the bandwidth my node produces. I've set it to 24576 in/24576 out so hopefully overall I won't be leaching more than 48KiB/sec. I share a network with a friend who pays the bill (has a 50G/month limit) and I'd like to have a present, but, limited network bandwidth profile. He was really leary of letting me run a freenet node and he's all but banned kazaa and other related progs from being used by his roommates. Better portals. People _don't_ want links to child pornography (no, I don't want a discussion, flamefest etc, I'm talking the general public who want to USE Freenet) to be the first thing they see. Instead the top portal should contain links like the Diebold one, the Scientology Bible etc. Advertise the fact that Freedom of Speach is the central issue. This doesn't sound like such a bad idea. I'm sure persons delivering the really disgusting content have other channels for disseminator their keys. But I think freenet itself handles this problem. The very fact I'm getting DNF's is testment to the fact the freenet is very efficient (maybe a little too so) at weeding out stuff not accessed much like child pornagraphy with more active datastore things like stuff being censored by the DMCA and stuff (becuase that's a very hot topic right now). Freenet pretty much handles the child pornography on its own due to the way infrequently used data is preempted for newer data; and likely to require a lot of work of its maintainer (frequent inserts becuase it will degrade in the network rapidly becuase IMHO not a lot of people wish too see that material so they never request it - even more so because these are images and possibly even likely to be splitfiles - makes the maintenance to make the material accessible without the infamous DNF a lot of work for the maintainer of such sites). On the other hand the file degradation feature tends to be bad for trendy things. Where the first month a resource is placed into the network (oh an example I like, such as an anime fansub) and then it idles and erodes away. It frustrates the heck out of me becuase the freesite that links to one video I'd like to see is *still* there but the 700M video DNFs all over the place (it's a splitfile) while trying to fetch it. Somebody want to maintain a freesite that links to controversial material but doesn't link to illegal material? A lot of it is a matter of judgement and personal ethics - Thought Crime links to Mein Kampf and an article on bestiality as well as a lot of overtly political stuff. Anyway, YoYo's Controversy section is a good start. My thought on the home freesite links is that a good starter freesite should appeal to the majority of people and have the darker side of the freenet not bluntly proclaimed on the first page the freenet user sees. Splitting adult content away from general content/freenet/freedom links (ie having a single link to a separate freesite index for adult material may be a start in the right direction). This will at least make the first contact palatable for *anyone* entering the home freesite. Something that might also be good is have some duplication of material that isn't controversial, illegal, or typically censored (ie: kid-safe freesites, educational sites and the lot). So that the freenet looks more like the internet. This will encourage more people to use freenodes to access content. Hitting heavy on the no popups or banner ads slogan needs to be flogged way more than it's mere mention in the documentation now. I think a good one is run a banner on normal internet sites: run your own website! no size limit, no space limit! think this is a lie [click here] (links to freenet.sf.net). Another idea might be to encourage people to mirror their sites onto freenet if they are on gee-oh-sh*tties or yoohoo/homestead with their grossly commercialized page extras forced onto their clients' websites and add a link [to view this site without ads click here]. Which should link to a
Re: [freenet-support] This error is showing up in my logs a LOT
On Thu, 11 Mar 2004, Toad wrote: Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 17:46:55 + From: Toad [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Christopher Brian Jack [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [freenet-support] This error is showing up in my logs a LOT I'd guess it was a problem with the OS, or the JVM. You can however work around it by setting ipAddress=my ip address and ipDetectorInterval=0 in the config file (remove any preceding %'s or #'s first), and of course restarting the node. The automatic config update checker won't catch this change? ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] REF seeding
will running the freenet node over extended periods of time increase the reliability of the cached seed nodes. I seem to be in a very unstable part of the network and I can only seem to get like a 1% success rate on accesses. The majority of attempt restart at some stage and other nodes just totally decline. If just keeping the node running won't increase reliability is there another method or utility I can use to find more reliable 'uplink nodes'? Or is there somethiing I can do in configuration to make things more tolerant and increases the chances of successfully retries data under specified keys? ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] slowdom in freeville
On Wed, 10 Mar 2004, Toad wrote: [ranty stuff edited out] My experience is the opposite of his, but I guess you know that the last stable builds have been really good already .. They have? In what sense? All I hear are complaints... and I usually run unstable, because it's what gets hacked on mostly... One thing I am liking about Freenet being implemented in Java is that I can just plot in the .JAR file and get on with my life on an imporved FreeNet without spending an hour building stuff. And hooboy did it spend a long time building to make the system able to run freenet. Download this here, that there (actually it was all from sun's site - I want to shoot their lawyers in a place that would relieve them of their manhood) put it all in /usr/ports/distfile and start a biuild that would be full of fireworks and surprises took about 2+ hours on my poor celery 450 FreeBSD box. It isn't loading the system too badly (I hope)... ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Re: This error is showing up in my logs a LOT (added config info)
On Wed, 10 Mar 2004, Christopher Brian Jack wrote: Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 19:49:20 -0800 (PST) From: Christopher Brian Jack [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Freenet Support Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: This error is showing up in my logs a LOT How can I fix this error that's showing up in my logs very repetitively: Mar 10, 2004 2:33:00 AM (freenet.node.IPAddressDetector, QThread-89, ERROR): SocketException t$ java.net.SocketException: Bad address at java.net.NetworkInterface.getAll(Native Method) at java.net.NetworkInterface.getNetworkInterfaces(NetworkInterface.java:204) at freenet.node.IPAddressDetector.checkpoint(IPAddressDetector.java:95) at freenet.node.IPAddressDetector.checkpoint(IPAddressDetector.java:82) at freenet.node.states.maintenance.Checkpoint.checkpoint(Checkpoint.java:56) at freenet.node.states.maintenance.Checkpoint.received(Checkpoint.java:49) at freenet.node.StateChain.received(StateChain.java:168) at freenet.node.StateChain.received(StateChain.java:55) at freenet.node.StandardMessageHandler$Ticket.run(StandardMessageHandler.java:210) at freenet.node.StandardMessageHandler$Ticket.received(StandardMessageHandler.java:157) at freenet.node.StandardMessageHandler$Ticket.access$0(StandardMessageHandler.java) at freenet.node.StandardMessageHandler.handle(StandardMessageHandler.java:67) at freenet.Ticker$Event.run(Ticker.java:256) at freenet.thread.QThreadFactory$QThread.run(QThreadFactory.java:214) My current freenet.conf looks like this: listenPort=2000 #routingTableImp=ng seedNodes=seednodes.ref ipAddress=24.70.68.243 outputBandwidthLimit=12288 inputBandwidthLimit=12288 storeSize=5144M threadFactory=Y mainport.port= mainport.bindAddress=* mainport.allowedHosts=192.168.0.0/24, localhost, ruby --- network config: router WAN is 24.70.68.243 listening at 2000 directed to local machine 192.168.0.15 at port 2000 ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] This error is showing up in my logs a LOT
I used to get these with an earlier version of the Sun JDK. Which version are you using? I'm running FreeBSD here, too (I noticed you mentioned it in another thread). The latest port revision is jdk-1.4.2p6_4. I'd strongly recommend upgrading. It's not nearly as laborious a process once you already have a native JDK installed (which I assume you do now). #java -version java version 1.4.2_02 Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.4.2_02-b03) Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.4.2_02-b03, mixed mode) ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] This error is showing up in my logs a LOT
I used to get these with an earlier version of the Sun JDK. Which version are you using? I'm running FreeBSD here, too (I noticed you mentioned it in another thread). The latest port revision is jdk-1.4.2p6_4. I'd strongly recommend upgrading. It's not nearly as laborious a process once you already have a native JDK installed (which I assume you do now). #java -version java version 1.4.2_02 Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.4.2_02-b03) Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.4.2_02-b03, mixed mode) ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] REF seeding (fwd)
the list complained about by brians-anime.com domain handled by a multidomained mailserver (server's name is ruby and it handles mail for enugen.net and brians-anime.com but idents as ruby.enugen.net) so I had to resend this with the name my server report rather than the domain I publish (brian at nospam brians-anime.com) as my email address. -- Forwarded message -- Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 11:54:59 -0800 (PST) From: Christopher Brian Jack [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Freenet Support Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: REF seeding will running the freenet node over extended periods of time increase the reliability of the cached seed nodes. I seem to be in a very unstable part of the network and I can only seem to get like a 1% success rate on accesses. The majority of attempt restart at some stage and other nodes just totally decline. If just keeping the node running won't increase reliability is there another method or utility I can use to find more reliable 'uplink nodes'? Or is there somethiing I can do in configuration to make things more tolerant and increases the chances of successfully retries data under specified keys? ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
