> > There _has_ to be a question when installing asking the
> > user if he/she pays for bandwidth (esp outgoing) and set the configuration in
> > Freenet accordingly - bad press resulting from Joe Doe installing Freenet and
> > getting $1000 bills (think NZ, OZ) isn't good.

> Hmm. Good idea. However, I'm not sure that you CAN run a freenet ndoe
> with any reasonable performance if it's limited to 3GB/mo as is common
> in oz. Technically, the solution is the average bandwidth limiter.
> However this is not known to work well (it is pretty much untested since
> NIO), mostly because no developers have that sort of connection. Perhaps
> we should put some effort in, but I'm not sure that it's proportionate
> as users with such connections won't get much out of or contribute much
> to Freenet. Yes, it might be useful for the occasional content author,
> so it IS worth thinking about; it's just that they'll be put off by the
> dire performance implied.

But I'm not a developer and I do need to keep a leash on the bandwidth my
node produces.  I've set it to 24576 in/24576 out  so hopefully overall I
won't be leaching more than 48KiB/sec.  I share a network with a friend
who pays the bill (has a 50G/month limit) and I'd like to have a present,
but, limited network bandwidth profile.  He was really leary of letting me
run a freenet node and he's all but banned kazaa and other related progs
from being used by his roommates.

> > Better portals. People _don't_ want links to child pornography (no, I don't want
> > a discussion, flamefest etc, I'm talking the general public who want to USE
> > Freenet) to be the first thing they see. Instead the top portal should contain
> > links like the Diebold one, the Scientology Bible etc. Advertise the fact that
> > Freedom of Speach is the central issue.

This doesn't sound like such a bad idea.  I'm sure persons delivering the
really disgusting content have other channels for disseminator their keys.
But I think freenet itself handles this problem.  The very fact I'm
getting DNF's is testment to the fact the freenet is very efficient (maybe
a little too so) at weeding out stuff not accessed much like child
pornagraphy with more active datastore things like stuff being censored by
the DMCA and stuff (becuase that's a very hot topic right now).

Freenet pretty much handles the child pornography on its own due to the
way infrequently used data is preempted for newer data; and likely to
require a lot of work of its maintainer (frequent inserts becuase it will
degrade in the network rapidly becuase IMHO not a lot of people wish too
see that material so they never request it - even more so because these
are images and possibly even likely to be splitfiles - makes the
maintenance to make the material accessible without the infamous DNF a lot
of work for the maintainer of such sites).

On the other hand the file degradation feature tends to be bad for trendy
things.  Where the first month a resource is placed into the network (oh
an example I like, such as an anime fansub) and then it idles and erodes
away.  It frustrates the heck out of me becuase the freesite that links to
one video I'd like to see is *still* there but the 700M video DNFs all
over the place (it's a splitfile) while trying to fetch it.

> Somebody want to maintain a freesite that links to controversial
> material but doesn't link to illegal material? A lot of it is a matter
> of judgement and personal ethics - Thought Crime links to Mein Kampf and
> an article on bestiality as well as a lot of overtly political stuff.
> Anyway, YoYo's Controversy section is a good start.

My thought on the "home" freesite links is that a good starter freesite
should appeal to the majority of people and have the darker side of the
freenet not bluntly proclaimed on the first page the freenet user sees.
Splitting adult content away from general content/freenet/freedom links
(ie having a single link to a separate freesite index for adult material
may be a start in the right direction).  This will at least make the first
contact palatable for *anyone* entering the "home" freesite.

Something that might also be good is have some duplication of material
that isn't controversial, illegal, or typically censored (ie: kid-safe
freesites, educational sites and the lot).  So that the freenet looks more
like the internet.  This will encourage more people to use freenodes to
access content.  Hitting heavy on the "no popups or banner ads" slogan
needs to be flogged way more than it's mere mention in the documentation
now.  I think a good one is run a banner on normal internet sites: "run
your own website!  no size limit, no space limit!  think this is a lie
[click here]" (links to freenet.sf.net).  Another idea might be to
encourage people to mirror their sites onto freenet if they are on
gee-oh-sh*tties or yoohoo/homestead with their grossly commercialized
page extras forced onto their clients' websites and add a link [to view
this site without ads click here].  Which should link to a customized
distribution page (oh yeah that's a feature suggestion - being able to
customize the redist pages made on your own node) explaining that view the
freesite mirror removes the ads from the page.
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