Re: Don't start a new post with every post
JeffM wrote: When you REPLY to an *existing* thread, hit **Reply**. DO NOT start a new thread with each new post. That's what I'm doing ... hitting 'reply' then removing all the other stuff from the digest leaving only the topic I'm referring to. But surely you then have to change the subject line, otherwise everything will be headed something like Re: support-seamonkey Digest, Vol 54, Issue 32. If I'm doing something wrong you'll have to be clearer in putting me right. The link you gave specified using 'reply' rather than 'write' or 'compose', but that's what I am doing - using the 'reply'. Perhaps I am removing something important in my trimming? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: webmail attachments
Ah, there is no New Type button in the helper app box here. Just Close and Help. If it's a Linux thing, perhaps someone who knows about such things could advise. Thanks, Ray From: Paul p...@main.com To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org Subject: Re: Re webmail attachments Message-ID: nl-dnyulxsxz0ojrnz2dnuvz_qmdn...@mozilla.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Ray Chandler wrote: Incidentally, I couldn't see a way of adding to the helper apps list - how do you do that? Thanks, Ray I am not at all familiar with Linux but I bet SM is much the same across platforms. In the helper app box should be a button for New Type. (There is on Windows version). If so, click that and follow the prompts. If not, then hopefully a Linux person will respond. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Migrating Profiles to SeaMonkey 2
It seems that the profile workarounds referenced on the download reference link at http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_migration_-_SeaMonkey doesn't work... at least it doesn't work for profiles that are not in the default profile location. fwiw, I'm back at 1.1.17 following a full day of attempting everything possible including multiple uninstalls of 2.0.4 the command line option C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe -P profilename -migration the above results in absolutely zero action by SeaMonkey 2... no disk activity, no cpu activity, simply nothing. There is no migration wizard as described. There is an import option in the mail/newsgroups tools option... and while that _appears_ to work, (bookmarks, passwords and a few other items are migrated, but nothing related to email such as messages and addresses) those are completely gone the next time SeaMonkey is started. No help requested... just posting this for others who may be considering moving on up to 2.0.4 (Bugzilla? No thanks, been down that frustrating worm hole many times before with nothing to show for the effort beyond frustration ;-) Beverly Howard ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: webmail attachments
Ray Chandler wrote: Ah, there is no New Type button in the helper app box here. Just Close and Help. If it's a Linux thing, perhaps someone who knows about such things could advise. Thanks, Ray From: Paulp...@main.com To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org Subject: Re: Re webmail attachments Message-ID:nl-dnyulxsxz0ojrnz2dnuvz_qmdn...@mozilla.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Ray Chandler wrote: Incidentally, I couldn't see a way of adding to the helper apps list - how do you do that? Thanks, Ray I am not at all familiar with Linux but I bet SM is much the same across platforms. In the helper app box should be a button for New Type. (There is on Windows version). If so, click that and follow the prompts. If not, then hopefully a Linux person will respond. A Linux person responds, only to confuse the issue more. First I checked my Helper Applications and there are none for office extensions in the content type column! My Linux also only has buttons for close and help. No NewType. However, when I double click a power point presentation attachment that a friend sent me, a dialog box pops up asking me if I want to open the attachment with OO Impress or save the file. So, I sent myself a doc attachment from another account and it also popped up a dialog box asking me if I want to open or save the file. I could select either option. Ok, so I go back and check Helper Applications, and there is now an entry for Word document at the bottom of the list! Still none for the power point file. Confusing? You betcha! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Don't start a new post with every post
On 14.06.2010 02:40, Ray Chandler wrote: --- Original Message --- JeffM wrote: When you REPLY to an *existing* thread, hit **Reply**. DO NOT start a new thread with each new post. That's what I'm doing ... hitting 'reply' then removing all the other stuff from the digest leaving only the topic I'm referring to. But surely you then have to change the subject line, otherwise everything will be headed something like Re: support-seamonkey Digest, Vol 54, Issue 32. If I'm doing something wrong you'll have to be clearer in putting me right. The link you gave specified using 'reply' rather than 'write' or 'compose', but that's what I am doing - using the 'reply'. Perhaps I am removing something important in my trimming? If you're changing the subject line then it becomes a new post even though you are actually replying. Either way it's confusing to most. -- *Jay Garcia - Netscape/Flock Champion* www.ufaq.org Netscape - Firefox - SeaMonkey - Flock - Thunderbird ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: webmail attachments
WLS wrote: Ray Chandler wrote: Ah, there is no New Type button in the helper app box here. Just Close and Help. If it's a Linux thing, perhaps someone who knows about such things could advise. Thanks, Ray From: Paulp...@main.com To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org Subject: Re: Re webmail attachments Message-ID:nl-dnyulxsxz0ojrnz2dnuvz_qmdn...@mozilla.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Ray Chandler wrote: Incidentally, I couldn't see a way of adding to the helper apps list - how do you do that? Thanks, Ray I am not at all familiar with Linux but I bet SM is much the same across platforms. In the helper app box should be a button for New Type. (There is on Windows version). If so, click that and follow the prompts. If not, then hopefully a Linux person will respond. A Linux person responds, only to confuse the issue more. First I checked my Helper Applications and there are none for office extensions in the content type column! My Linux also only has buttons for close and help. No NewType. However, when I double click a power point presentation attachment that a friend sent me, a dialog box pops up asking me if I want to open the attachment with OO Impress or save the file. So, I sent myself a doc attachment from another account and it also popped up a dialog box asking me if I want to open or save the file. I could select either option. Ok, so I go back and check Helper Applications, and there is now an entry for Word document at the bottom of the list! Still none for the power point file. Confusing? You betcha! Update I just did a search for sample spreadsheet and power point presentation files, just as I did for the sample doc file I saved then emailed to myself. Seems the action of saving the files creates the entry in Helper Applications because all three now appear there. HTH ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Anyone able to get the BP oilspill live feeds working?
NoOp wrote: On 06/13/2010 04:51 PM, J. Van Brimmer wrote: NoOp wrote: http://www.bp.com/genericarticle.do?categoryId=9033572contentId=7062605 Tried on (in both linux windows) SeaMonkey 2.0.x, FireFox 3.x, and Opera. All no go. Finally tested w/IE and found that there is an active-X plugin required then the video's worked. Anyone able to get these working on SeaMonkey? I have a good live feed from Enterprise – ROV 1 working in Seamonkey 2.0.4 running in Debian Lenny. At first it wasn't working, just a blank, white page where the video was supposed to be. Then I tried Firefox 3.6.3, and it worked fine. I noticed that FF was using the Mplayer plugin. I checked my /home/jerry/.mozilla/plugins folder and no mplayer plugins there. Then I checked the /usr/lib/mozilla/lpugins folder and in there were the mplayer plugins. So, I copied all of the Mplayer plugins from there into the /home/jerry/.mozilla/plugins folder. Presto! Now the live feed from Enterprise – ROV 1 is working fine in Seamonkey 2.0.4. It looks like Seamonkey is not checking the /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins folder for plugins. Here is a list of the Mplayer plugins from my /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins folder: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 283024 2008-08-16 10:00 mplayerplug-in-dvx.so -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1067 2008-08-16 10:00 mplayerplug-in-dvx.xpt -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 283216 2008-08-16 10:00 mplayerplug-in-qt.so -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1067 2008-08-16 10:00 mplayerplug-in-qt.xpt -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 283248 2008-08-16 10:00 mplayerplug-in-rm.so -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1067 2008-08-16 10:00 mplayerplug-in-rm.xpt -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 285072 2008-08-16 10:00 mplayerplug-in.so -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 283600 2008-08-16 10:00 mplayerplug-in-wmp.so -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1067 2008-08-16 10:00 mplayerplug-in-wmp.xpt -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1067 2008-08-16 10:00 mplayerplug-in.xpt (Sorry if this is a double post. I first posted this via the Google Groups page. But after several hours I never saw it in the newsgroup.) I think you are on to something. On the systems that I can't get the feed to work they are defaulting to Totem's Movie Player. On the one's that do work, the are using Mplayer. Thanks, I'll have a look give your suggestion a try! Original BP link above plays in iCab but not SeaMonkey 2.0.4 -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.netmailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Don't start a new post with every post
Jay Garcia wrote: On 14.06.2010 02:40, Ray Chandler wrote: --- Original Message --- JeffM wrote: When you REPLY to an *existing* thread, hit **Reply**. DO NOT start a new thread with each new post. That's what I'm doing ... hitting 'reply' then removing all the other stuff from the digest leaving only the topic I'm referring to. But surely you then have to change the subject line, otherwise everything will be headed something like Re: support-seamonkey Digest, Vol 54, Issue 32. If I'm doing something wrong you'll have to be clearer in putting me right. The link you gave specified using 'reply' rather than 'write' or 'compose', but that's what I am doing - using the 'reply'. Perhaps I am removing something important in my trimming? If you're changing the subject line then it becomes a new post even though you are actually replying. Either way it's confusing to most. Huh? Do you mean thread where you write post? (_Any_ new message is a new post. Some are new threads; some are not.) No, changing the subject line does _not_ change the threading (at least as far as References-aware user agents go). (Recall the usual complaints about (usually accidental) threat hijacking.) However, I think I see the cause of the problem here: Evidentally JeffM is reading logical messages wrapped inside the digest message (logical). When he replies, his user agent threads his reply message to the physical message to which he replied--the digest message (which of course doesn't even appear on the mail mailing list / newsgroup). Ideally for the rest of the list (readers), JeffM would read individual messages, and then his replying would thread normally. (No, I don't know what to suggest to let JeffM preserve his choice to subscribe to the digest version but also reply with the list's preferred threading.) Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Don't start a new post with every post
At the top of every digest it says: When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of support-seamonkey digest... So if changing the subject line makes it a new post, but new posts are a bad thing when replying to a thread, what should I do? Ray Jay Garcia wrote: To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org Subject: Re: Don't start a new post with every post Message-ID: erodnwnjryfqpovrnz2dnuvz_vedn...@mozilla.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 If you're changing the subject line then it becomes a new post even though you are actually replying. Either way it's confusing to most. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Don't start a new post with every post
On 14.06.2010 10:12, Daniel Barclay wrote: --- Original Message --- Jay Garcia wrote: On 14.06.2010 02:40, Ray Chandler wrote: --- Original Message --- JeffM wrote: When you REPLY to an *existing* thread, hit **Reply**. DO NOT start a new thread with each new post. That's what I'm doing ... hitting 'reply' then removing all the other stuff from the digest leaving only the topic I'm referring to. But surely you then have to change the subject line, otherwise everything will be headed something like Re: support-seamonkey Digest, Vol 54, Issue 32. If I'm doing something wrong you'll have to be clearer in putting me right. The link you gave specified using 'reply' rather than 'write' or 'compose', but that's what I am doing - using the 'reply'. Perhaps I am removing something important in my trimming? If you're changing the subject line then it becomes a new post even though you are actually replying. Either way it's confusing to most. Huh? Do you mean thread where you write post? (_Any_ new message is a new post. Some are new threads; some are not.) No, changing the subject line does _not_ change the threading (at least as far as References-aware user agents go). (Recall the usual complaints about (usually accidental) threat hijacking.) However, I think I see the cause of the problem here: Evidentally JeffM is reading logical messages wrapped inside the digest message (logical). When he replies, his user agent threads his reply message to the physical message to which he replied--the digest message (which of course doesn't even appear on the mail mailing list / newsgroup). Ideally for the rest of the list (readers), JeffM would read individual messages, and then his replying would thread normally. (No, I don't know what to suggest to let JeffM preserve his choice to subscribe to the digest version but also reply with the list's preferred threading.) Daniel Yes, it changes the subject but does remain in the original thread. However, if the subject is XXX and you change it to YYY then try searching for XXX and see what happens. YYY becomes a new post in the same thread. -- *Jay Garcia - Netscape/Flock Champion* www.ufaq.org Netscape - Firefox - SeaMonkey - Flock - Thunderbird ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Don't start a new post with every post
On 14.06.2010 10:38, Ray Chandler wrote: --- Original Message --- At the top of every digest it says: When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of support-seamonkey digest... So if changing the subject line makes it a new post, but new posts are a bad thing when replying to a thread, what should I do? Ray Jay Garcia wrote: To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org Subject: Re: Don't start a new post with every post Message-ID: erodnwnjryfqpovrnz2dnuvz_vedn...@mozilla.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 If you're changing the subject line then it becomes a new post even though you are actually replying. Either way it's confusing to most. Please bottom post here .. thanks. That may be true for digests/lists, etc. but changing the subject makes it a new post but is still remains in the original thread. It also changes the search criteria as well when searching by subject. -- *Jay Garcia - Netscape/Flock Champion* www.ufaq.org Netscape - Firefox - SeaMonkey - Flock - Thunderbird ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Don't start a new post with every post
Jay Garcia wrote: Yes, it changes the subject but does remain in the original thread. However, if the subject is XXX and you change it to YYY then try searching for XXX and see what happens. If the subject has changed on that branch of the thread, what's the problem? (If it's no longer about XXX, would you want to find it via a textual search?) YYY becomes a new post in the same thread. You're still not making sense. Only messages, not subject strings, can be new posts in a thread. (YYY is a subject string, so it never becomes a new post.) And every message is a new post, _regardless_ of whether the subject changed (and regardless of whether it's a reply to a previous message). Are you trying to say that YYY becomes a new subthread (with subthread defined in terms of subject text (and not References header values))? Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Don't start a new post with every post
On 14.06.2010 13:43, Daniel Barclay wrote: --- Original Message --- Jay Garcia wrote: Yes, it changes the subject but does remain in the original thread. However, if the subject is XXX and you change it to YYY then try searching for XXX and see what happens. If the subject has changed on that branch of the thread, what's the problem? (If it's no longer about XXX, would you want to find it via a textual search?) YYY becomes a new post in the same thread. You're still not making sense. Only messages, not subject strings, can be new posts in a thread. (YYY is a subject string, so it never becomes a new post.) And every message is a new post, _regardless_ of whether the subject changed (and regardless of whether it's a reply to a previous message). Are you trying to say that YYY becomes a new subthread (with subthread defined in terms of subject text (and not References header values))? No, I am speaking of changing a subject regarding the trimming of body text to suit the subject change, but still remaining on-topic. Example: A thread is started - Subject: Firefox Addons In XP Someone replies, changes the subject: Firefox Addons in Windows-7 Now, search for: Firefox Addons In XP - The user replying is still speaking of Firefox Addons but in Win-7 and there may be some important info regarding XP vs Win-7. If it's a short thread it really doesn't matter as you can read the entire thread w/o having to search. What should be done is twofold, 1-use the re:was/now function or 2-start a new thread. I was corrected on that myself at one time. Daniel Makes sense to me and anyone else that I am aware of to search for a subject, find it and then miss an ONtopic reply where the subject has changed and not included in the search results. However, a subject CAN be changed but still include important keywords appropriate to the original subject, etc. that can be search criteria and included in the results. And then there are filters to be reckoned with. -- *Jay Garcia - Netscape/Flock Champion* www.ufaq.org Netscape - Firefox - SeaMonkey - Flock - Thunderbird ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: webmail attachments
To expand on Paul's response in Windows, download the file, then rightclick it and select open with select the app and then check always... I've found that SeaMonkey does a good job of using the resultant windows file associations and, when possible, it's a better option that using helper applications within SeaMonkey. An addendum with respect to Office files... consider downloading and installing the microsoft viewers such as their word doc viewer... much safer than directly opening a doc (etc) file and, if you do need to edit the doc, there is an option that will pass it to word or open office (based on file associations ;-) Beverly Howard ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: webmail attachments
WLS wrote: Subject: Re: webmail attachments Message-ID: 0_odnqmlsextoivrnz2dnuvz_hqdn...@mozilla.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed First I checked my Helper Applications and there are none for office extensions in the content type column! My Linux also only has buttons for close and help. No NewType. However, when I double click a power point presentation attachment that a friend sent me, a dialog box pops up asking me if I want to open the attachment with OO Impress or save the file. So, I sent myself a doc attachment from another account and it also popped up a dialog box asking me if I want to open or save the file. I could select either option. Ok, so I go back and check Helper Applications, and there is now an entry for Word document at the bottom of the list! Still none for the power point file. Confusing? You betcha! To confuse things even further ... I've discovered that the problem is inconsistent. Some .doc files present the opening option, while others offer save only. In either case, the box that pops up offering one or both options clearly identifies that the download as a Word document, so the system seems to know what sort of file it is - it just sometimes offers save only and sometimes gives the open or save options. Just a quirk of my particular Linux/SM combination, I guess. Not disastrous, but quite annoying. Ray ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Don't start a new post with every post
OK Jay, JeffM and Daniel - glad to see you thrashing this out. If a consensus is arrived at, perhaps one of you would let me know what to do differently, if anything. Cheers, Ray ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Don't start a new post with every post
Ray Chandler wrote: At the top of every digest it says: When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of support-seamonkey digest... So if changing the subject line makes it a new post, but new posts are a bad thing when replying to a thread, what should I do? Ray I recommend using a news server rather than a list server for newsgroup posting. You may have to enter your news settings. The NNTP server for this group is mozilla.support.seamonkey Port 119 Depending on your news server, you may also have to tell it your SMTP (outgoing) settings. Mine is smtp.att.yahoo.com Port 456. Yours will likely be different. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Don't start a new post with every post
Paul wrote: Depending on your news server, you may also have to tell it your SMTP (outgoing) settings. Mine is That is for email, and doesn't apply. -- -bts -Four wheels carry the body; two wheels move the soul ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Don't start a new post with every post
On 14.06.2010 17:53, Ray Chandler wrote: --- Original Message --- OK Jay, JeffM and Daniel - glad to see you thrashing this out. If a consensus is arrived at, perhaps one of you would let me know what to do differently, if anything. Cheers, Ray Well, first of all you could quote at least some text from the previous reply. Then bottom post your reply keeping the subject on-topic and unchanged. :-) -- *Jay Garcia - Netscape/Flock Champion* www.ufaq.org Netscape - Firefox - SeaMonkey - Flock - Thunderbird ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Don't start a new post with every post
On 06/14/2010 03:53 PM, Ray Chandler wrote: OK Jay, JeffM and Daniel - glad to see you thrashing this out. If a consensus is arrived at, perhaps one of you would let me know what to do differently, if anything. Cheers, Ray Easiest way is to simply read post using the built-in SeaMonkey nntp newsreader: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/community mozilla.support.seamonkey End-user support, ask user questions about SeaMonkey here. * Newsgroup: mozilla.support.seamonkey You won't waste time downloading emails (even the digest) and will save some electrons in the process. Go green :-) If you have difficulty setting that up (just click on the link should work), let us know I'm sure someone will provide detailed instructions. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Don't start a new post with every post
In news:mailman.2774.1276529917.19335.support-seamon...@lists.mozilla.org, Ray Chandler chandl...@ukf.net wrote: At the top of every digest it says: When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of support-seamonkey digest... So if changing the subject line makes it a new post, but new posts are a bad thing when replying to a thread, what should I do? You're doing it exactly the way you're supposed to. There are people who dislike the way replies to digests work, but that doesn't mean you should have to stop replying to them the way you have been. -- »Q« /\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign\ / against html e-mail X http://www.asciiribbon.org/ / \ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Don't start a new post with every post
»Q« wrote: In news:mailman.2774.1276529917.19335.support-seamon...@lists.mozilla.org, Ray Chandler chandl...@ukf.net wrote: At the top of every digest it says: When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of support-seamonkey digest... So if changing the subject line makes it a new post, but new posts are a bad thing when replying to a thread, what should I do? You're doing it exactly the way you're supposed to. There are people who dislike the way replies to digests work, but that doesn't mean you should have to stop replying to them the way you have been. Ray's question, and the problem for others, is how he can receive posts in digest form and reply while maintaining proper threading. AFAIK, he can't (it's either digest or proper threading), but perhaps some of the experts will offer a solution. I'd like to know what he did with the posts in this thread -- they seem to be successfully threaded with the rest, unlike his previous ones about webmail attachments. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
