Re: SM overrules Reply-To setting

2017-12-03 Thread Paul B. Gallagher 

David E. Ross wrote:


On 12/3/2017 8:27 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Lately I've noticed that SM 2.49.1 doesn't handle listserv replies as
expected.

When the message to which I'm replying has the following parameters:

From: 
To: 
Sender: 
Reply-To: 

simply clicking "Reply" or using the equivalent keyboard shortcut CTRL-R
composes a reply to the individual poster and not to the list. I have to
consciously decide to reply to the list by pulling down that choice from
the "Reply" button or from Message | Reply to List.

This is different from the previous behavior, where a simple reply went
to the list and I had to consciously choose if I wanted to take it
off-list. It's unexpected and annoying that SM overrules an explicit
Reply-To: address and forces delivery to the From: address.

I'd like the old behavior back. Can I choose that in about:config or
some obscure pref? Or do I need to file a bug?

Thanks.


I believe this is bug #1392371 against Thunderbird's component Message
Compose Window.  Since SeaMonkey uses the same (or approximately the
same) code as Thunderbird, this is likely also seen in SeaMonkey.  A fix
in Thunderbird is already available, but I have no idea when it will be
included in SeaMonkey.

See .


OK, two comments:

1) I've subscribed to listservs for decades, but only noticed this 
behavior in the past week (since installing 2.49.1). The bug says it 
goes back to 2016.


2) The fix says the new key mail.override_list_reply_to in about:config 
fixes the bug, and when I toggled it to "false" it did indeed work. Thanks.


I still think it should work correctly out of the box; how many end 
users are going to figure this out? More than one percent? The easiest 
way is to make "false" the default.


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Re: SM overrules Reply-To setting

2017-12-03 Thread David E. Ross 
On 12/3/2017 8:27 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> Lately I've noticed that SM 2.49.1 doesn't handle listserv replies as 
> expected.
> 
> When the message to which I'm replying has the following parameters:
> 
> From: 
> To: 
> Sender: 
> Reply-To: 
> 
> simply clicking "Reply" or using the equivalent keyboard shortcut CTRL-R 
> composes a reply to the individual poster and not to the list. I have to 
> consciously decide to reply to the list by pulling down that choice from 
> the "Reply" button or from Message | Reply to List.
> 
> This is different from the previous behavior, where a simple reply went 
> to the list and I had to consciously choose if I wanted to take it 
> off-list. It's unexpected and annoying that SM overrules an explicit 
> Reply-To: address and forces delivery to the From: address.
> 
> I'd like the old behavior back. Can I choose that in about:config or 
> some obscure pref? Or do I need to file a bug?
> 
> Thanks.
> 

I believe this is bug #1392371 against Thunderbird's component Message
Compose Window.  Since SeaMonkey uses the same (or approximately the
same) code as Thunderbird, this is likely also seen in SeaMonkey.  A fix
in Thunderbird is already available, but I have no idea when it will be
included in SeaMonkey.

See .

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Re: one profile loads google very slowly

2017-12-03 Thread nunojsilva 
On 2017-12-03, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

> Jim wrote:
>
>> I have 5 SM profiles set up on my PC. Even though my PC is 6 years
>> old and has slowed down considerably from when I first got it
>> (probably one factor is that Intel did not write a driver for Intel
>> RST for my chipset for Windows 10). Anyway, when I go to
>> www.google.com with my profile, the web page loads pretty much
>> instantaneously (even though I cleared the cache, history, etc, etc
>> before opening it, so it would not use cached info). My daughter has
>> www.google.com as her home page, and it takes forever to load. I
>> think we have the same add-ons, although I'm running noscripts, and
>> she is not. However, I have allowed all scripts for the Google page
>> on my browser. Any ideas? I'm considering deleting and recreating
>> her profile, to see if that helps.
>
> Probably simpler/easier/more effective to clear her cache and
> cookies. If that doesn't work, then you can consider more draconian
> measures.

I'd also compare the preferences set in prefs.js between the two
profiles.

If you find out what is causing the slowdown, please share. I'd be
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.49.1 (Windows) freezes

2017-12-03 Thread cmcadams 
Adding to what NoOp wrote, a little while after my last post I was browsing 
walmart.com and SM 1.49.1 Win began behaving as he described. Unresponsive, twirlies 
and intermittent white-outs, all without outright crashing. CPU was high, memory was 
at 1.1-1.2GB.


So, walmart might be a place to go for some trouble.

Craig


NoOp wrote:

On 12/3/2017 11:57 AM, cmcadams wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

2.49.1 and now the development build .2 was/is the most stable release I ever 
used so
YMMV.

All depends on your browsing habits, if you keep countless tabs open, how often 
you
close the browser and a thousand other variables. It might also be some shitty 
java
script only activated when the website sees a never Firefox version or even bad
browser sniffing.


No countless tabs, often just one. I don't run the browser continuously.


I suggest using a script and adblocker if you don't already do so. If it still
freezes it should always do it on the same pages then.


uBlock Origin. Noscript became impossible, making things work that I needed to 
have
work on a specific site became a time-wasting game.


And if you did go back from 2.51 your profile might have corruption too. Check 
for
indexDB or storage errors on startup. If you see some you need to clean it 
first.


I haven't been playing pioneer, lately, and no explicit startup errors.


Just back up your profile and try it. It might not work for you or it might be
better. You won't know until you try it out.


OP asked if 2.49.1 ever froze. It has, but not often enough to make it 
unusable. It
can go for prolonged periods without crashing at all. It has crashed under
stress...for example, SM 2.49.1 popped like a soap bubble when I tried sending a
particularly enormous email loaded with animated GIFs. Weirdly, that happened 
both
when I attached the files AND when I then tried sending by reference. (In the 
latter
case the email DID at least go through.) But it has also crashed when absolutely
nothing out of the ordinary is going on, when it will go into its "white out"
routine, as described, and I have to kill and restart. No rhyme or reason I've 
been
able to spot. Just a guess: script! I will remember your backup and indexDB 
advice.

Craig


Ditto.

Unfortunately it typically doesn't crash, it just freezes so no new
crash reports are generated.

My last crash on 2.49.1 was on 11/15 & that was caused by
hang | NtUserMsgWaitForMultipleObjectsEx | user32.dll@0x5d3ed
That seems to have been caused by a plugin:
plugin (web) Foxit PhantomPDF Plugin for Mozilla Version: 2.2.7.818
Filename: npFoxitPhantomPDFPlugin.dll
Which was removed following the crash. SM 2.49.1 Windows has frozen at
least 4 times since. When I look at the Windows task manager it just
shows 'Not Responding'.

I'll see if I can get some repeat site/page to troubleshoot... in the
interim it's Thunderbird & Other Browser time (on Windows - linux is
just fine) until I can figure out the issue. Thanks for all the responses.






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SM overrules Reply-To setting

2017-12-03 Thread Paul B. Gallagher 
Lately I've noticed that SM 2.49.1 doesn't handle listserv replies as 
expected.


When the message to which I'm replying has the following parameters:

From: 
To: 
Sender: 
Reply-To: 

simply clicking "Reply" or using the equivalent keyboard shortcut CTRL-R 
composes a reply to the individual poster and not to the list. I have to 
consciously decide to reply to the list by pulling down that choice from 
the "Reply" button or from Message | Reply to List.


This is different from the previous behavior, where a simple reply went 
to the list and I had to consciously choose if I wanted to take it 
off-list. It's unexpected and annoying that SM overrules an explicit 
Reply-To: address and forces delivery to the From: address.


I'd like the old behavior back. Can I choose that in about:config or 
some obscure pref? Or do I need to file a bug?


Thanks.

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Re: SeaMonkey on Mint MATE always prompts to be set as default

2017-12-03 Thread NoOp 
On 12/03/2017 07:10 AM, mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:
> Daniel wrote:
>> mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:
>>> I've just installed SeaMonkey from Ubuntuzilla on Linux Mint 18.3 
>>> MATE, using the instructions at 
>>> .
>>>
>>> On starting SeaMonkey, it prompts to "Use SeaMonkey as the default 
>>> client for:" with "Browser" and "Email" preselected. I click OK, and 
>>> it does appear to be correctly set as the default application - .html 
>>> files, http: URLs etc. from other applications open with SeaMonkey. 
>>> However, every time I start SeaMonkey it prompts again to set it as 
>>> the default client. I /could/ just untick "Always perform this check 
>>> when starting SeaMonkey" and I expect it wouldn't prompt again, but 
>>> I'm pretty sure this prompt is only supposed to appear if SeaMonkey is 
>>> not already the default.
>>>
>>> Ubuntuzilla sets up an entry for SeaMonkey in the applications menu 
>>> (file at /usr/share/applications/seamonkey-mozilla-build.desktop), but 
>>> I'm not sure if there's something else that needs to be configured in 
>>> MATE to enable SeaMonkey to detect that it's already set as the 
>>> default browser and mail client? Or perhaps this is a problem with 
>>> SeaMonkey itself, possibly related to 
>>> ?
>>>
>>> I did notice that having SeaMonkey set itself as the default client 
>>> creates a ~/.local/share/applications/userapp-SeaMonkey-WYLOAZ.desktop 
>>> file and adds references to that into ~/.config/mimeapps.list, rather 
>>> than referencing the seamonkey-mozilla-build.desktop which defines the 
>>> menu item. Editing ~/.config/mimeapps.list to point to 
>>> seamonkey-mozilla-build.desktop doesn't make any difference though. 
>>> I've also tried using xdg-settings and xdg-mime to configure similar 
>>> mappings, and selecting SeaMonkey as the default web browser and mail 
>>> reader at Mint's Menu > Preferences > Preferred Applications, but 
>>> SeaMonkey still prompts to be set as the default client every time it 
>>> starts.
>>>
>>> Has anyone got the default client check to work on MATE, or is 
>>> disabling "Always perform this check when starting SeaMonkey" the only 
>>> way of avoiding the prompt every time? I don't really mind doing that; 
>>> it would just be nice to have it work properly if it just needs a bit 
>>> of configuration.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Mark.
>>>
>> Mark, I think your only recourse is to tick the box.
> 
> Tick or untick? With it ticked, SeaMonkey prompts to be set as default 
> every time it starts, which is rather annoying.
> 
>> Logically, if you start up some other Browser/Mail Agent, it would do a 
>> similar check and present you with a similar screen, allowing you to 
>> change your default Browser/Mail Agent.
> 
> I'm not sure I follow. If I start some other browser with similar 
> options, I would set that one not to be default and not to check, 
> leaving SeaMonkey as the default. SeaMonkey (with "Always perform this 
> check..." set) should then detect that it's still the default and not 
> prompt. At least that's what I'd expect, and how it works under Windows. 
> On the Linux Mint MATE machine I'm setting up, SeaMonkey always prompts 
> to set itself as the default client, even when it is already the default:
> - Start SeaMonkey
> - OK the prompt to set it as default browser and mail client
> - Close SeaMonkey
> - Start SeaMonkey
> - SeaMonkey prompts to be set as the default browser and mail client, 
> even though it has just been set as the default and nothing has changed 
> that.
> 
> Ideally I'd leave "Always perform this check..." set, so that if 
> something else did get set to be the default, SeaMonkey would detect 
> that and offer to set itself back to being the default. Disabling 
> "Always perform this check..." would prevent that from happening, but at 
> the moment seems to be the only way to avoid being prompted every time 
> SeaMonkey starts even when it's already the default. Not too bad if 
> that's the way it is; I'm unlikely to accidentally set something else to 
> be the default, and if I did I could just set the default back to 
> SeaMonkey. But if there's just some bit of configuration I'm missing to 
> make SeaMonkey's default check work it would be nice to do.
> 

Have you set SeaMonkey as default in your system settings? I'm not
familiar with MATE, but I think it to be similar to, and based on
Ubuntu; Config cog icon|System Settings|Details|Default
Applications|Web/Mail set to SeaMonkey? Try that & see if that resolves
the issue. If not, you may need to use about:config and search for
'default' and then look for settings with 'browser' - I 'think' the
settings that affect the browser check is:

browser.shell.checkDefaultBrowser

Try setting that to 'true' if set to 'false' (double click to toggle
true/false).

Re: SeaMonkey 2.49.1 (Windows) freezes

2017-12-03 Thread NoOp 
On 12/3/2017 11:57 AM, cmcadams wrote:
> Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
>> 2.49.1 and now the development build .2 was/is the most stable release I 
>> ever used so 
>> YMMV.
>> 
>> All depends on your browsing habits, if you keep countless tabs open, how 
>> often you 
>> close the browser and a thousand other variables. It might also be some 
>> shitty java 
>> script only activated when the website sees a never Firefox version or even 
>> bad 
>> browser sniffing.
> 
> No countless tabs, often just one. I don't run the browser continuously.
> 
>> I suggest using a script and adblocker if you don't already do so. If it 
>> still 
>> freezes it should always do it on the same pages then.
> 
> uBlock Origin. Noscript became impossible, making things work that I needed 
> to have 
> work on a specific site became a time-wasting game.
> 
>> And if you did go back from 2.51 your profile might have corruption too. 
>> Check for 
>> indexDB or storage errors on startup. If you see some you need to clean it 
>> first.
> 
> I haven't been playing pioneer, lately, and no explicit startup errors.
> 
>> Just back up your profile and try it. It might not work for you or it might 
>> be 
>> better. You won't know until you try it out.
> 
> OP asked if 2.49.1 ever froze. It has, but not often enough to make it 
> unusable. It 
> can go for prolonged periods without crashing at all. It has crashed under 
> stress...for example, SM 2.49.1 popped like a soap bubble when I tried 
> sending a 
> particularly enormous email loaded with animated GIFs. Weirdly, that happened 
> both 
> when I attached the files AND when I then tried sending by reference. (In the 
> latter 
> case the email DID at least go through.) But it has also crashed when 
> absolutely 
> nothing out of the ordinary is going on, when it will go into its "white out" 
> routine, as described, and I have to kill and restart. No rhyme or reason 
> I've been 
> able to spot. Just a guess: script! I will remember your backup and indexDB 
> advice.
> 
> Craig

Ditto.

Unfortunately it typically doesn't crash, it just freezes so no new
crash reports are generated.

My last crash on 2.49.1 was on 11/15 & that was caused by
hang | NtUserMsgWaitForMultipleObjectsEx | user32.dll@0x5d3ed
That seems to have been caused by a plugin:
plugin (web) Foxit PhantomPDF Plugin for Mozilla Version: 2.2.7.818
Filename: npFoxitPhantomPDFPlugin.dll
Which was removed following the crash. SM 2.49.1 Windows has frozen at
least 4 times since. When I look at the Windows task manager it just
shows 'Not Responding'.

I'll see if I can get some repeat site/page to troubleshoot... in the
interim it's Thunderbird & Other Browser time (on Windows - linux is
just fine) until I can figure out the issue. Thanks for all the responses.



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Re: one profile loads google very slowly

2017-12-03 Thread Paul B. Gallagher 

Jim wrote:

I have 5 SM profiles set up on my PC. Even though my PC is 6 years old 
and has slowed down considerably from when I first got it (probably one 
factor is that Intel did not write a driver for Intel RST for my chipset 
for Windows 10). Anyway, when I go to www.google.com with my profile, 
the web page loads pretty much instantaneously (even though I cleared 
the cache, history, etc, etc before opening it, so it would not use 
cached info). My daughter has www.google.com as her home page, and it 
takes forever to load. I think we have the same add-ons, although I'm 
running noscripts, and she is not. However, I have allowed all scripts 
for the Google page on my browser. Any ideas? I'm considering deleting 
and recreating her profile, to see if that helps.


Probably simpler/easier/more effective to clear her cache and cookies. 
If that doesn't work, then you can consider more draconian measures.


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Re: Printing without the overlays?

2017-12-03 Thread Paul B. Gallagher 

Ant wrote:

On 12/3/2017 11:01 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Ant wrote:


On 11/28/2017 10:47 AM, Ant wrote:
https://wawd.breezy.hr/p/75e9a9f21eca-trainer-technical-writer as an 
example. For each print pages, there is that annoying "ActionKit" 
menu section covering up texts. :(


Is it possible to remove it when printing? Thank you in advance. :)


https://www.skipthedrive.com/jobs/?pg=1=qa_location=d 
example has the same problem too. It looks like there's no way to 
remove those extra overlays from this newsgroup thread's replies. :(


Why would you want to remove them from this newsgroup thread's 
replies? ;-)


Oops. My bad English again since I am not good with it. I should had 
said "according" instead of "from". :P


I understood perfectly, just having some fun. Natives make exactly the 
same kind of awkward sentences by accident. In this case, the joke works 
because "remove" is often followed by "from."


If I were editing this, I'd put the attribution first, where it can't be 
misunderstood:

"From/Judging by/According to/Based on this newsgroup thread's replies,
it looks like there's no way to remove those extra overlays."

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one profile loads google very slowly

2017-12-03 Thread Jim 
I have 5 SM profiles set up on my PC.  Even though my PC is 6 years old 
and has slowed down considerably from when I first got it (probably one 
factor is that Intel did not write a driver for Intel RST for my chipset 
for Windows 10).  Anyway, when I go to www.google.com with my profile, 
the web page loads pretty much instantaneously (even though I cleared 
the cache, history, etc, etc before opening it, so it would not use 
cached info).  My daughter has www.google.com as her home page, and it 
takes forever to load.  I think we have the same add-ons, although I'm 
running noscripts, and she is not.  However, I have allowed all scripts 
for the Google page on my browser.  Any ideas?  I'm considering deleting 
and recreating her profile, to see if that helps.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.49.1 (Windows) freezes

2017-12-03 Thread cmcadams 

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
2.49.1 and now the development build .2 was/is the most stable release I ever used so 
YMMV.


All depends on your browsing habits, if you keep countless tabs open, how often you 
close the browser and a thousand other variables. It might also be some shitty java 
script only activated when the website sees a never Firefox version or even bad 
browser sniffing.


No countless tabs, often just one. I don't run the browser continuously.

I suggest using a script and adblocker if you don't already do so. If it still 
freezes it should always do it on the same pages then.


uBlock Origin. Noscript became impossible, making things work that I needed to have 
work on a specific site became a time-wasting game.


And if you did go back from 2.51 your profile might have corruption too. Check for 
indexDB or storage errors on startup. If you see some you need to clean it first.


I haven't been playing pioneer, lately, and no explicit startup errors.

Just back up your profile and try it. It might not work for you or it might be 
better. You won't know until you try it out.


OP asked if 2.49.1 ever froze. It has, but not often enough to make it unusable. It 
can go for prolonged periods without crashing at all. It has crashed under 
stress...for example, SM 2.49.1 popped like a soap bubble when I tried sending a 
particularly enormous email loaded with animated GIFs. Weirdly, that happened both 
when I attached the files AND when I then tried sending by reference. (In the latter 
case the email DID at least go through.) But it has also crashed when absolutely 
nothing out of the ordinary is going on, when it will go into its "white out" 
routine, as described, and I have to kill and restart. No rhyme or reason I've been 
able to spot. Just a guess: script! I will remember your backup and indexDB advice.


Craig




cmcadams wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

cmcadams wrote on 03-12-17 05:32:

NoOp wrote:

So, it's better to stay with SM 2.46 waiting for the next stable release > 
2.49.1 ?


Sadly, I'll have to say yes. 2.49.1 is better than 2.48, but 2.46 was more stable 
than either of those. How much risk you'd be running, continuing to use an older 
version, I can't tell you.


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Re: Printing without the overlays?

2017-12-03 Thread Ant via support-seamonkey 

On 12/3/2017 11:01 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Ant wrote:


On 11/28/2017 10:47 AM, Ant wrote:
https://wawd.breezy.hr/p/75e9a9f21eca-trainer-technical-writer as an 
example. For each print pages, there is that annoying "ActionKit" 
menu section covering up texts. :(


Is it possible to remove it when printing? Thank you in advance. :)


https://www.skipthedrive.com/jobs/?pg=1=qa_location=d 
example has the same problem too. It looks like there's no way to 
remove those extra overlays from this newsgroup thread's replies. :(


Why would you want to remove them from this newsgroup thread's replies? ;-)


Oops. My bad English again since I am not good with it. I should had 
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Re: Printing without the overlays?

2017-12-03 Thread Paul B. Gallagher 

Ant wrote:


On 11/28/2017 10:47 AM, Ant wrote:
https://wawd.breezy.hr/p/75e9a9f21eca-trainer-technical-writer as an 
example. For each print pages, there is that annoying "ActionKit" menu 
section covering up texts. :(


Is it possible to remove it when printing? Thank you in advance. :)


https://www.skipthedrive.com/jobs/?pg=1=qa_location=d 
example has the same problem too. It looks like there's no way to remove 
those extra overlays from this newsgroup thread's replies. :(


Why would you want to remove them from this newsgroup thread's replies? ;-)

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Re: Where to store my profile??

2017-12-03 Thread Paul B. Gallagher 

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


I'm on Win 7 Pro (64-bit) too, using SM 2.49.1, and I did just as you 
said. And just as you would predict, it failed.


I chose an external drive, and when I clicked the "Select Folder" 
button, I was returned to the previous dialog where it informed me 
that my profile would be stored in... exactly the default folder it 
had originally proposed. No matter how many times I "selected" the 
other location, SM ignored my selection and promised to save the 
profile just where it pleased.


You need to select a folder on the drive, not the drive itself. The 
profile is created directly in the specified folder, not in a salt.name 
subfolder. That's what I found yesterday when I tried with SeaMonkey 
2.49.1 on Windows Vista (sorry... should have mentioned in my response 
that I'd actually tried it on Windows!)


OK, so the root is not allowed, even though the rest of the world thinks 
it's a folder too?


OK, as Daniel requested and as you suggest, I tried a nonroot folder on 
my default HDD (BTW, Daniel, the external drive is also a "physical hard 
drive," not a virtual one). Result: This time SM accepted my selection. 
I also tried the root folder on my default HDD and was ignored as 
before. SM seems to have a root allergy. FWIW.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.49.1 (Windows) freezes

2017-12-03 Thread Ant via support-seamonkey 

On 12/2/2017 6:03 PM, NoOp wrote:

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1
Build identifier: 20171016030418

I switched from Adrian's 2.51 to the released 2.49.1 and on multiple
occasions I've had 2.49.1 freeze on me on Windows (Win 10 - 16GB memory,
same profile that I've been using for years & no, I've not tried with a
new profile yet). It typically happens just when I need it most...
online order checkout, preparing to send important email etc. Note: I've
not experienced the same on the linux version of 2.49.1

Have anyone else had SM 2.49.1 (Windows) freeze on them?


I only have freezes if there are major leaks going on like on bloated 
and slow http://linkedin.com, http://wunderground.com/, etc. It's not 
just v2.49.1 too since it happened before it for me. Web sites are 
getting too bloated even if I block their annoyances with uBlock Origin. :(

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Re: Printing without the overlays?

2017-12-03 Thread Ant via support-seamonkey 

On 11/28/2017 10:47 AM, Ant wrote:
https://wawd.breezy.hr/p/75e9a9f21eca-trainer-technical-writer as an 
example. For each print pages, there is that annoying "ActionKit" menu 
section covering up texts. :(


Is it possible to remove it when printing? Thank you in advance. :)


https://www.skipthedrive.com/jobs/?pg=1=qa_location=d 
example has the same problem too. It looks like there's no way to remove 
those extra overlays from this newsgroup thread's replies. :(

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.49.1 (Windows) freezes

2017-12-03 Thread David E. Ross 
On 12/2/2017 6:03 PM, NoOp wrote:
> User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
> Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1
> Build identifier: 20171016030418
> 
> I switched from Adrian's 2.51 to the released 2.49.1 and on multiple
> occasions I've had 2.49.1 freeze on me on Windows (Win 10 - 16GB memory,
> same profile that I've been using for years & no, I've not tried with a
> new profile yet). It typically happens just when I need it most...
> online order checkout, preparing to send important email etc. Note: I've
> not experienced the same on the linux version of 2.49.1
> 
> Have anyone else had SM 2.49.1 (Windows) freeze on them?

Windows 7
SeaMonkey 2.49.1

Two days ago, I had a freeze when starting to pay bills online.  I
attributed the problem to the bank's Web server being overloaded.  It
was the first of the month, when interest payments are posted; and the
server might have been far too busy with customers checking their
accounts.  The problem was resolved, but I do not remember how I
resolved it.

If I see this problem again -- especially if it is NOT the first of a
month -- I am likely to post a bug report.  However, I would first check
with the bank to ask if they have been having server problems.

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   that increase health-care costs.
*  The Republicans in Congress propose to
   eliminate itemized deductions for
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Re: Where to store my profile??

2017-12-03 Thread Felix Miata 
Frank-Rainer Grahl composed on 2017-12-03 13:47 (UTC+0100):

> I am just doing some fixes for 2.55+ in a vm and there at least it seems to 
> be 
> a bit stubborn. If you create and select the folder your profile location 
> will 
> be overwritten. But if you create the folder and then change the profile name 
> it works. Was able to create a profile D:\profiled\u5kls6wt.UserD1 and it 
> shows in about:support .

> Don't think it is different in 2.49.1. This code hasn't been changed for 
> years 
> I think.
 I've used --ProfileManager on initial startup and rejected the default name and
location for at least a decade, always creating a directory first to contain
profiles where I want them, then pointing to that location and typing in a
suitable profile name when the profile manager opens.

I've not used the profile manager to add an additional a profile in at least as
long. Once profiles.ini exists, it's simple to edit it, to add a profile, or
relocate one, or change the name of one.
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.49.1 (Windows) freezes

2017-12-03 Thread Steve Dunn 

On 2017-12-02 21:03, NoOp wrote:

Have anyone else had SM 2.49.1 (Windows) freeze on them?


   I haven't had this problem.  Like you, I'm using the same profile 
I've been using for years.  Unlike you, I haven't used any pre-release 
(alpha, beta, dev, whatever) versions and then gone back down a couple 
of versions to a release version; I got to 2.49.1 from 2.48.  I can't 
say that's the problem but it does seem like a possibility that 
something in your profile got out of whack when you came back from the 
future :-)


   If you're interested in troubleshooting it, a couple of options come 
to mind:  see if you can duplicate it in safe mode, and see if you can 
duplicate it after creating a fresh new profile.  I'd suggest backing up 
your profile before either of these, just to be on the safe side.  Post 
again with the results and that might help some of the gurus track down 
what's going on.

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Re: Where to store my profile??

2017-12-03 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl 

Daniel,

I didn't check if there is a bug yet. If not it needs to go into Bugzilla. But 
the remaining devs including me are swamped. This might take a long time till 
it gets fixed.


FRG


Daniel wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
I am just doing some fixes for 2.55+ in a vm and there at least it seems to 
be a bit stubborn. If you create and select the folder your profile location 
will be overwritten. But if you create the folder and then change the 
profile name it works. Was able to create a profile 
D:\profiled\u5kls6wt.UserD1 and it shows in about:support .


Don't think it is different in 2.49.1. This code hasn't been changed for 
years I think.


FRG

Daniel wrote:

On 3/12/2017 2:21 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Daniel wrote:

On 2/12/2017 9:08 PM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:


...



Thank you also, Frank-Rainer. that's now three of us that have had problems.

Frank-Rainer, is it worthwhile me going to Bugzilla and reporting this or 
would you and your connections be able to sort it without a Bug Report??


Daniel

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Re: Where to store my profile??

2017-12-03 Thread mozilla-lists . mbourne 

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Daniel wrote:


Thank you, Jonathan, but that's not the problem I'm interested in. I
see you are on WOW64 Windows 7, the same as me. Could you please have
a go at giving yourself a new, test, SeaMonkey profile by selecting 
Tools->Switch Profiles->Manage Profiles and then, on the second

screen, give this Profile a Name then Click on the "Choose Folder"
button, pick a new location (i.e. *not* the one suggested by
SeaMonkey) and see if the Location on the "Create Profile Wizard"
screen has changed to the location you had selected??

No need to actually create the Profile (unless you want one), just 
cancel your way out of the "Create Profile Wizard" screen.


I'm on Win 7 Pro (64-bit) too, using SM 2.49.1, and I did just as you 
said. And just as you would predict, it failed.


I chose an external drive, and when I clicked the "Select Folder" 
button, I was returned to the previous dialog where it informed me that 
my profile would be stored in... exactly the default folder it had 
originally proposed. No matter how many times I "selected" the other 
location, SM ignored my selection and promised to save the profile just 
where it pleased.


You need to select a folder on the drive, not the drive itself. The 
profile is created directly in the specified folder, not in a salt.name 
subfolder. That's what I found yesterday when I tried with SeaMonkey 
2.49.1 on Windows Vista (sorry... should have mentioned in my response 
that I'd actually tried it on Windows!)


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Re: SeaMonkey on Mint MATE always prompts to be set as default

2017-12-03 Thread mozilla-lists . mbourne 

Daniel wrote:

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:
I've just installed SeaMonkey from Ubuntuzilla on Linux Mint 18.3 
MATE, using the instructions at 
.


On starting SeaMonkey, it prompts to "Use SeaMonkey as the default 
client for:" with "Browser" and "Email" preselected. I click OK, and 
it does appear to be correctly set as the default application - .html 
files, http: URLs etc. from other applications open with SeaMonkey. 
However, every time I start SeaMonkey it prompts again to set it as 
the default client. I /could/ just untick "Always perform this check 
when starting SeaMonkey" and I expect it wouldn't prompt again, but 
I'm pretty sure this prompt is only supposed to appear if SeaMonkey is 
not already the default.


Ubuntuzilla sets up an entry for SeaMonkey in the applications menu 
(file at /usr/share/applications/seamonkey-mozilla-build.desktop), but 
I'm not sure if there's something else that needs to be configured in 
MATE to enable SeaMonkey to detect that it's already set as the 
default browser and mail client? Or perhaps this is a problem with 
SeaMonkey itself, possibly related to 
?


I did notice that having SeaMonkey set itself as the default client 
creates a ~/.local/share/applications/userapp-SeaMonkey-WYLOAZ.desktop 
file and adds references to that into ~/.config/mimeapps.list, rather 
than referencing the seamonkey-mozilla-build.desktop which defines the 
menu item. Editing ~/.config/mimeapps.list to point to 
seamonkey-mozilla-build.desktop doesn't make any difference though. 
I've also tried using xdg-settings and xdg-mime to configure similar 
mappings, and selecting SeaMonkey as the default web browser and mail 
reader at Mint's Menu > Preferences > Preferred Applications, but 
SeaMonkey still prompts to be set as the default client every time it 
starts.


Has anyone got the default client check to work on MATE, or is 
disabling "Always perform this check when starting SeaMonkey" the only 
way of avoiding the prompt every time? I don't really mind doing that; 
it would just be nice to have it work properly if it just needs a bit 
of configuration.


Thanks,
Mark.


Mark, I think your only recourse is to tick the box.


Tick or untick? With it ticked, SeaMonkey prompts to be set as default 
every time it starts, which is rather annoying.


Logically, if you start up some other Browser/Mail Agent, it would do a 
similar check and present you with a similar screen, allowing you to 
change your default Browser/Mail Agent.


I'm not sure I follow. If I start some other browser with similar 
options, I would set that one not to be default and not to check, 
leaving SeaMonkey as the default. SeaMonkey (with "Always perform this 
check..." set) should then detect that it's still the default and not 
prompt. At least that's what I'd expect, and how it works under Windows. 
On the Linux Mint MATE machine I'm setting up, SeaMonkey always prompts 
to set itself as the default client, even when it is already the default:

- Start SeaMonkey
- OK the prompt to set it as default browser and mail client
- Close SeaMonkey
- Start SeaMonkey
- SeaMonkey prompts to be set as the default browser and mail client, 
even though it has just been set as the default and nothing has changed 
that.


Ideally I'd leave "Always perform this check..." set, so that if 
something else did get set to be the default, SeaMonkey would detect 
that and offer to set itself back to being the default. Disabling 
"Always perform this check..." would prevent that from happening, but at 
the moment seems to be the only way to avoid being prompted every time 
SeaMonkey starts even when it's already the default. Not too bad if 
that's the way it is; I'm unlikely to accidentally set something else to 
be the default, and if I did I could just set the default back to 
SeaMonkey. But if there's just some bit of configuration I'm missing to 
make SeaMonkey's default check work it would be nice to do.


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Re: Where to store my profile??

2017-12-03 Thread Daniel 

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Daniel wrote:


Thank you, Jonathan, but that's not the problem I'm interested in. I
see you are on WOW64 Windows 7, the same as me. Could you please have
a go at giving yourself a new, test, SeaMonkey profile by selecting 
Tools->Switch Profiles->Manage Profiles and then, on the second

screen, give this Profile a Name then Click on the "Choose Folder"
button, pick a new location (i.e. *not* the one suggested by
SeaMonkey) and see if the Location on the "Create Profile Wizard"
screen has changed to the location you had selected??

No need to actually create the Profile (unless you want one), just 
cancel your way out of the "Create Profile Wizard" screen.


I'm on Win 7 Pro (64-bit) too, using SM 2.49.1, and I did just as you 
said. And just as you would predict, it failed.


I chose an external drive, and when I clicked the "Select Folder" 
button, I was returned to the previous dialog where it informed me that 
my profile would be stored in... exactly the default folder it had 
originally proposed. No matter how many times I "selected" the other 
location, SM ignored my selection and promised to save the profile just 
where it pleased.


Great, I'm not going mad!! Paul, you mentioned trying an external drive, 
so could you please try to somewhere else, anywhere else, on your 
physical hard drive??


Ta.

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Re: Where to store my profile??

2017-12-03 Thread Daniel 

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
I am just doing some fixes for 2.55+ in a vm and there at least it seems 
to be a bit stubborn. If you create and select the folder your profile 
location will be overwritten. But if you create the folder and then 
change the profile name it works. Was able to create a profile 
D:\profiled\u5kls6wt.UserD1 and it shows in about:support .


Don't think it is different in 2.49.1. This code hasn't been changed for 
years I think.


FRG

Daniel wrote:

On 3/12/2017 2:21 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Daniel wrote:

On 2/12/2017 9:08 PM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

The system has worked well over the last umpteen years. It is only a 
problem when I stuff things up!!


I'm starting to feel that I should not have mentioned the Linux 
profile problem, as both responders have focused on that rather than 
the problem that I was actually trying to get assistance with  
trying to get a Profile were *I* wanted it, rather than it going 
where, *apparently* , SeaMonkey wants to put it!!




Sharing a profile between Windows and Linux is completely 
unsupported. Things like last download dir are stored in it and 
will cause problems if Windows finds a Linux path or Linux a path 
with a Windows drive.


Moving or duplicating SeaMonkey|Firefox|Thunderbird to and from Linux 
and Windows (or Mac) is very easy drag and drop affair. I have don it 
countless times.


Sharing a profile dir is an issue regardless of the OS, but pathing 
issues is a real problem with dissimilar OSes because the the 
prefs.js records paths for some actions.


Thank you, Jonathan, but that's not the problem I'm interested in. I see 
you are on WOW64 Windows 7, the same as me. Could you please have a go 
at giving yourself a new, test, SeaMonkey profile by selecting 
Tools->Switch Profiles->Manage Profiles and then, on the second 
screen, give this Profile a Name then Click on the "Choose Folder" 
button, pick a new location (i.e. *not* the one suggested by 
SeaMonkey) and see if the Location on the "Create Profile Wizard" 
screen has changed to the location you had selected??


No need to actually create the Profile (unless you want one), just 
cancel your way out of the "Create Profile Wizard" screen.


I'd be very appreciative.


Thank you also, Frank-Rainer. that's now three of us that have had problems.

Frank-Rainer, is it worthwhile me going to Bugzilla and reporting this 
or would you and your connections be able to sort it without a Bug Report??


Daniel
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.49.1 (Windows) freezes

2017-12-03 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl 
2.49.1 and now the development build .2 was/is the most stable release I ever 
used so YMMV.


All depends on your browsing habits, if you keep countless tabs open, how 
often you close the browser and a thousand other variables. It might also be 
some shitty java script only activated when the website sees a never Firefox 
version or even bad browser sniffing.


I suggest using a script and adblocker if you don't already do so. If it still 
freezes it should always do it on the same pages then.


And if you did go back from 2.51 your profile might have corruption too. Check 
for indexDB or storage errors on startup. If you see some you need to clean it 
first.


Just back up your profile and try it. It might not work for you or it might be 
better. You won't know until you try it out.


FRG

cmcadams wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

cmcadams wrote on 03-12-17 05:32:

NoOp wrote:
So, it's better to stay with SM 2.46 waiting for the next stable release > 
2.49.1 ?


Sadly, I'll have to say yes. 2.49.1 is better than 2.48, but 2.46 was more 
stable than either of those. How much risk you'd be running, continuing to use 
an older version, I can't tell you.

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Re: Where to store my profile??

2017-12-03 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl 
I am just doing some fixes for 2.55+ in a vm and there at least it seems to be 
a bit stubborn. If you create and select the folder your profile location will 
be overwritten. But if you create the folder and then change the profile name 
it works. Was able to create a profile D:\profiled\u5kls6wt.UserD1 and it 
shows in about:support .


Don't think it is different in 2.49.1. This code hasn't been changed for years 
I think.


FRG

Daniel wrote:

On 3/12/2017 2:21 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Daniel wrote:

On 2/12/2017 9:08 PM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

The system has worked well over the last umpteen years. It is only a 
problem when I stuff things up!!


I'm starting to feel that I should not have mentioned the Linux profile 
problem, as both responders have focused on that rather than the problem 
that I was actually trying to get assistance with  trying to get a 
Profile were *I* wanted it, rather than it going where, *apparently* , 
SeaMonkey wants to put it!!




Sharing a profile between Windows and Linux is completely unsupported. 
Things like last download dir are stored in it and will cause problems if 
Windows finds a Linux path or Linux a path with a Windows drive.


Moving or duplicating SeaMonkey|Firefox|Thunderbird to and from Linux and 
Windows (or Mac) is very easy drag and drop affair. I have don it countless 
times.


Sharing a profile dir is an issue regardless of the OS, but pathing issues 
is a real problem with dissimilar OSes because the the prefs.js records 
paths for some actions.


Thank you, Jonathan, but that's not the problem I'm interested in. I see 
you are on WOW64 Windows 7, the same as me. Could you please have a go at 
giving yourself a new, test, SeaMonkey profile by selecting Tools->Switch 
Profiles->Manage Profiles and then, on the second screen, give this Profile a 
Name then Click on the "Choose Folder" button, pick a new location (i.e. *not* 
the one suggested by SeaMonkey) and see if the Location on the "Create Profile 
Wizard" screen has changed to the location you had selected??


No need to actually create the Profile (unless you want one), just cancel your 
way out of the "Create Profile Wizard" screen.


I'd be very appreciative.


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Re: Where to store my profile??

2017-12-03 Thread Paul B. Gallagher 

Daniel wrote:


Thank you, Jonathan, but that's not the problem I'm interested in. I
see you are on WOW64 Windows 7, the same as me. Could you please have
a go at giving yourself a new, test, SeaMonkey profile by selecting 
Tools->Switch Profiles->Manage Profiles and then, on the second

screen, give this Profile a Name then Click on the "Choose Folder"
button, pick a new location (i.e. *not* the one suggested by
SeaMonkey) and see if the Location on the "Create Profile Wizard"
screen has changed to the location you had selected??

No need to actually create the Profile (unless you want one), just 
cancel your way out of the "Create Profile Wizard" screen.


I'm on Win 7 Pro (64-bit) too, using SM 2.49.1, and I did just as you 
said. And just as you would predict, it failed.


I chose an external drive, and when I clicked the "Select Folder" 
button, I was returned to the previous dialog where it informed me that 
my profile would be stored in... exactly the default folder it had 
originally proposed. No matter how many times I "selected" the other 
location, SM ignored my selection and promised to save the profile just 
where it pleased.


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Re: Where to store my profile??

2017-12-03 Thread Daniel 

Daniel wrote:

On 2/12/2017 11:59 PM, bdelmee wrote:

Maybe this (thunderbird-related) article can help

"How To Share Mail Between Windows and Linux"

http://web.archive.org/web/20050207141558/http://texturizer.net/thunderbird/share_mail.html#step4 


Thank you!

Bugger!! Bugger!! Bugger!! In testing my problem, I had added a few 
extra profiles to my SeaMonkey  so I thought I'd get rid of a few 
 and managed to delete my main profile ... and, of course, I hadn't 
done a back up in quite a while! (Yes, I can hear you all yelling 
BACK-UP!! BACK-UP!! BACK-UP!!)


I do have several, so just a matter of finding out which is most recent 
... and how recent that is!! Oh Well!!


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Re: SeaMonkey on Mint MATE always prompts to be set as default

2017-12-03 Thread Daniel 

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:
I've just installed SeaMonkey from Ubuntuzilla on Linux Mint 18.3 MATE, 
using the instructions at 
.


On starting SeaMonkey, it prompts to "Use SeaMonkey as the default 
client for:" with "Browser" and "Email" preselected. I click OK, and it 
does appear to be correctly set as the default application - .html 
files, http: URLs etc. from other applications open with SeaMonkey. 
However, every time I start SeaMonkey it prompts again to set it as the 
default client. I /could/ just untick "Always perform this check when 
starting SeaMonkey" and I expect it wouldn't prompt again, but I'm 
pretty sure this prompt is only supposed to appear if SeaMonkey is not 
already the default.


Ubuntuzilla sets up an entry for SeaMonkey in the applications menu 
(file at /usr/share/applications/seamonkey-mozilla-build.desktop), but 
I'm not sure if there's something else that needs to be configured in 
MATE to enable SeaMonkey to detect that it's already set as the default 
browser and mail client? Or perhaps this is a problem with SeaMonkey 
itself, possibly related to 
?


I did notice that having SeaMonkey set itself as the default client 
creates a ~/.local/share/applications/userapp-SeaMonkey-WYLOAZ.desktop 
file and adds references to that into ~/.config/mimeapps.list, rather 
than referencing the seamonkey-mozilla-build.desktop which defines the 
menu item. Editing ~/.config/mimeapps.list to point to 
seamonkey-mozilla-build.desktop doesn't make any difference though. I've 
also tried using xdg-settings and xdg-mime to configure similar 
mappings, and selecting SeaMonkey as the default web browser and mail 
reader at Mint's Menu > Preferences > Preferred Applications, but 
SeaMonkey still prompts to be set as the default client every time it 
starts.


Has anyone got the default client check to work on MATE, or is disabling 
"Always perform this check when starting SeaMonkey" the only way of 
avoiding the prompt every time? I don't really mind doing that; it would 
just be nice to have it work properly if it just needs a bit of 
configuration.


Thanks,
Mark.


Mark, I think your only recourse is to tick the box.

Logically, if you start up some other Browser/Mail Agent, it would do a 
similar check and present you with a similar screen, allowing you to 
change your default Browser/Mail Agent.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.49.1 (Windows) freezes

2017-12-03 Thread cmcadams 

Ray_Net wrote:

cmcadams wrote on 03-12-17 05:32:

NoOp wrote:

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1
Build identifier: 20171016030418

I switched from Adrian's 2.51 to the released 2.49.1 and on multiple
occasions I've had 2.49.1 freeze on me on Windows (Win 10 - 16GB memory,
same profile that I've been using for years & no, I've not tried with a
new profile yet). It typically happens just when I need it most...
online order checkout, preparing to send important email etc. Note: I've
not experienced the same on the linux version of 2.49.1

Have anyone else had SM 2.49.1 (Windows) freeze on them?




Yes, although I can't come up with anything specific in the way of configuration or 
actions to blame for it. Activity grinds to a halt, the twirly twirls, and 
memory/cpu activity shoots up and stays there. The window "whites out". Not blank, 
just a change in saturation, let's say, to let you know you're screwed. And after 
you force-kill SM it can take some time for it to take the hint.



So, it's better to stay with SM 2.46 waiting for the next stable release > 
2.49.1 ?


Sadly, I'll have to say yes. 2.49.1 is better than 2.48, but 2.46 was more stable 
than either of those. How much risk you'd be running, continuing to use an older 
version, I can't tell you.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.49.1 (Windows) freezes

2017-12-03 Thread Ray_Net 

cmcadams wrote on 03-12-17 05:32:

NoOp wrote:

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1
Build identifier: 20171016030418

I switched from Adrian's 2.51 to the released 2.49.1 and on multiple
occasions I've had 2.49.1 freeze on me on Windows (Win 10 - 16GB memory,
same profile that I've been using for years & no, I've not tried with a
new profile yet). It typically happens just when I need it most...
online order checkout, preparing to send important email etc. Note: I've
not experienced the same on the linux version of 2.49.1

Have anyone else had SM 2.49.1 (Windows) freeze on them?




Yes, although I can't come up with anything specific in the way of 
configuration or actions to blame for it. Activity grinds to a halt, 
the twirly twirls, and memory/cpu activity shoots up and stays there. 
The window "whites out". Not blank, just a change in saturation, let's 
say, to let you know you're screwed. And after you force-kill SM it 
can take some time for it to take the hint.
So, it's better to stay with SM 2.46 waiting for the next stable release 
> 2.49.1 ?

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Re: Where to store my profile??

2017-12-03 Thread Daniel 

On 3/12/2017 2:21 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Daniel wrote:

On 2/12/2017 9:08 PM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

The system has worked well over the last umpteen years. It is only a 
problem when I stuff things up!!


I'm starting to feel that I should not have mentioned the Linux 
profile problem, as both responders have focused on that rather than 
the problem that I was actually trying to get assistance with  
trying to get a Profile were *I* wanted it, rather than it going 
where, *apparently* , SeaMonkey wants to put it!!




Sharing a profile between Windows and Linux is completely 
unsupported. Things like last download dir are stored in it and will 
cause problems if Windows finds a Linux path or Linux a path with a 
Windows drive.


Moving or duplicating SeaMonkey|Firefox|Thunderbird to and from Linux 
and Windows (or Mac) is very easy drag and drop affair. I have don it 
countless times.


Sharing a profile dir is an issue regardless of the OS, but pathing 
issues is a real problem with dissimilar OSes because the the prefs.js 
records paths for some actions.


Thank you, Jonathan, but that's not the problem I'm interested in. I see 
you are on WOW64 Windows 7, the same as me. Could you please have a go 
at giving yourself a new, test, SeaMonkey profile by selecting 
Tools->Switch Profiles->Manage Profiles and then, on the second screen, 
give this Profile a Name then Click on the "Choose Folder" button, pick 
a new location (i.e. *not* the one suggested by SeaMonkey) and see if 
the Location on the "Create Profile Wizard" screen has changed to the 
location you had selected??


No need to actually create the Profile (unless you want one), just 
cancel your way out of the "Create Profile Wizard" screen.


I'd be very appreciative.

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SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171016030418


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Re: Where to store my profile??

2017-12-03 Thread Daniel 

On 2/12/2017 11:59 PM, bdelmee wrote:

Maybe this (thunderbird-related) article can help

"How To Share Mail Between Windows and Linux"

http://web.archive.org/web/20050207141558/http://texturizer.net/thunderbird/share_mail.html#step4 


Thank you!

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Re: Where to store my profile??

2017-12-03 Thread Daniel 

On 3/12/2017 12:46 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
Ok but didn't you report previously that the download manager doesn't 
show up when downloading a file? This is exactly what happened to me 
when I copied my Windows profile to Linux. Only after I deleted the last 
download dir pref with the Windows path it worked.


FRG

Daniel wrote:

On 2/12/2017 9:08 PM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
Sharing a profile between Windows and Linux is completely 
unsupported. Things like last download dir are stored in it and will 
cause problems if Windows finds a Linux path or Linux a path with a 
Windows drive.


FRG


The system has worked well over the last umpteen years. It is only a 
problem when I stuff things up!!


I'm starting to feel that I should not have mentioned the Linux 
profile problem, as both responders have focused on that rather than 
the problem that I was actually trying to get assistance with  
trying to get a Profile were *I* wanted it, rather than it going 
where, *apparently* , SeaMonkey wants to put it!!


Frank-Rainer you could well be right about my download manager 
problem but you guys *must* ;-) have done something or suggested 
something to fix my problem then.


Now I'm wanting to know if anyone else on a Windows 7/10 computer is 
seeing my latest problem!!


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