Re: news.mozilla.org's missing posts issue again? Was "Re: Seamonkey freezing on new Facebook".

[A Williams]

Ant wrote:

On 10/11/2020 9:32 PM, Ant wrote:

I'm seeing missing newsgroup posts again with "Article not found

The newsgroup server reports that it can't find the article.

 Newsgroup server responded: no such article in group
 Perhaps the article has expired?
 Try searching for article: ..."

<77mdnuxityleyodcnz2dnuu7-ahnn...@mozilla.org> (116783) and 
 (116761).


I saw other threads too in the past too. I hope this post doesn't get 
lost. Thank you for reading and hopefully answering. :)


guwdndv5fijvrefcnz2dnuu7-vudn...@mozilla.org (116761) from me on 
10/4/2020 at 1:30 PM PDT.


77mdnuxityleyodcnz2dnuu7-ahnn...@mozilla.org (116783) from GerardJan on 
10/6/2020 at 10:42 PM PDT.


I looked in 
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla.support.seamonkey/iRwL__dw6ZE 
and don't seem to see them. What happened to its threading branches? :(


Having seen that information, posts by GerardJan are considered to be 
spam on this group and are filtered - after a delay of several hours - 
on the server.  No idea whether a script is used or if the moderation is 
done by hand.
Threads like this one are also not particularly welcomed by the 
moderator, that might explain why one of your postings (if I understood 
the sender-description) vanished.
This is a Mozilla-Help Forum, although I agree that posts vanishing is 
of interest.

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Re: news.mozilla.org's missing posts issue again? Was "Re: Seamonkey freezing on new Facebook".

[A Williams]

Ant wrote:

I'm seeing missing newsgroup posts again with "Article not found

The newsgroup server reports that it can't find the article.

     Newsgroup server responded: no such article in group
     Perhaps the article has expired?
     Try searching for article: ..."

<77mdnuxityleyodcnz2dnuu7-ahnn...@mozilla.org> (116783) and 
 (116761).


I saw other threads too in the past too. I hope this post doesn't get 
lost. Thank you for reading and hopefully answering. :)


Who posted them?
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Re: Crashes

[A Williams]

Ken Rudolph wrote:
SeaMonkey has crashed 3 times today.  I'm not sure why; but maybe I do 
need to update the program finally...I've been hesitant to do it since I 
have had no problems with SM until today.  Anyway, W-10, SM 2.49.1 
(yeah, I know, very out of date).


Look, I go back to Netscape 0.8, so I'm not exactly a newbee.  Still, 
I'm always afraid to update SeaMonkey - afraid that my profile will get 
corrupted or something will go wrong.  I'm just curious if experts think 
that upgrading to 2.49.4 (which seems to be the latest version) would 
stop these annoying crashes.




Do you have any add-ons which have been updated recently?
Does about:crashes show anything useful?  (it never has for me though)
Other than that: I'd clear Cache, empty Trash, Compact mail-folders.
2.49.1 counts as "recent" in my book, it should be stable but something 
is causing it to die.

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Re: Mail Client Message List

[Jake Williams]

>>oldest messages at the top<<
If you click on the word "date" at the top of the date column, it should invert 
(newest at the top) if you do that once, does it still go upsidedown the 
next time you check the mail? JW
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Re: Test - ignore

[A Williams]

no...@nonospam.org wrote:

Sorry


You can put what you want as your user-name on this server, mine is an 
invitation to spammers to spam themselves.

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Re: seamonkey unsupported at kroger.com

[A Williams]

Ray_Net wrote:

Mr. Ed wrote on 25-02-18 20:49:

On 02/25/18 2:29 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

A Williams wrote on 25-02-18 10:13:

Ray_Net wrote:

Correct, So what can we do to convince the SM developpers that the
"Advertising firefox compatibility" should put FireFox-version in the
final part of the UA string ?

You are aware you can change the UA string yourself?  I forget how
but it is
apparently trivial.

Yes, But that's not the better solution. When this is done by SM
itself the
newbies are better served
And If you change the UA string yourself at EVERY upgrade version YOU
must do
it again and again.

Use the add-on "PrefBar" .  Enter once and only change it when you
want to.

If SM do the job ... I don't need to install another add-on and I don't
need to change the string at every releases 


You're assuming everyone has this problem.
If Seamonkey stops advertising itself as Seamonkey, its perceived 
"market share" drops to zero.  Using PrefBar would - presumably - fix 
your problem without affecting anyone else.

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Re: seamonkey unsupported at kroger.com

[A Williams]

Ray_Net wrote:



Correct, So what can we do to convince the SM developpers that the
"Advertising firefox compatibility" should put FireFox-version in the
final part of the UA string ?


You are aware you can change the UA string yourself?  I forget how but 
it is apparently trivial.

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Re: Is this group moderated?

[A Williams]

Daniel wrote:

A Williams wrote:


and the 24 hours was chosen deliberately.


Because ??



Accepting misconfigured timezones, rejecting real fakes.
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Re: Is this group moderated?

[A Williams]

Daniel wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


Because such an invalid time stamp is proof that the message is spam.
Real people don't keep their computer date and time so far off from
reality.


Well, just at the moment, Paul, you might pick me, as I'm swapping
between Linux and Win7. My clock varies by eleven hours (o.k., not the
24hrs+ Mr/Mrs/Ms Williams refers to, but...) dependant on which OS I'm
using at the time and if I've remembered to adjust the clock or not!!



Lord Williams of somewhere-or-other
and the 24 hours was chosen deliberately.
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Re: Is this group moderated?

[A Williams]

Daniel wrote:

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

rickman wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote on 12/14/2017 2:30 PM:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 12/14/17 11:46 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 12/13/2017 3:45 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:

If so, *WHY*?

I ask because I follow a similar group following a different
fork of
Netscape.

On that group the moderator chastised a poster for suggesting
conformance to courtesy/productivity issues.

YMMV



Mozilla newsgroups are listed at
.  Those newgroups
that are
moderated are indicated as such.  There is no indication of
moderation
for mozilla.support.seamonkey.


True enough. But in practice, Chris Ilias removes messages that
violate
his criteria and issues warnings both public and private. If you
want to
call that moderation, there it is.



You have received warnings about off-topic, or other unacceptable
posts to
this specific newsgroup?


I have. I didn't always agree with the assessment, but what could I do?

And it's not like he's fining me or firing me or putting me in jail.
At most
it's an annoyance when it happens to me, and a pleasure when it
happens to
real bad guys like the Italian spammer. ;-)


Do any spammers get the ax?  I have seen no indication of that.


Except for the ones in Italian I see zero spam or drama in this group.


Neither have I recently!! After I got the filter working correctly.

I'm guessing they only make it here because they come via Google groups
... and nobody dares upset them!!



Why would blocking a spammer upset Google?
Speaking strictly for myself, there are two categories I'd like to see 
blocked - the other one being posts where the date is more than 24 hours 
in the future.

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I'm Your Private Badger

[A Williams]

Having read about and installed Privacy Badger - 
https://www.eff.org/privacybadger - does it still work with seamonkey? 
I get nowhere trying to configure it.

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Re: Chrome hijacking

[A Williams]

Chris Ilias wrote:

On 2017-11-27 10:52 PM, Mort Linder wrote:

Hi,

Thanks so much for informing me that chrome is correct. However, why
do my other 2 laptops show SeaMonkey there, while only this one keeps
chrome?



Why are you ignoring requests to post a screenshot? Do you know what a
screenshot is?



If it was me, it would be because I have never bothered with hosting 
sites like Flickr or Google Photos.  Since the problem here appears to 
have been one of perception, there would be no need to start now.

hmmv
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Re: dailymotion

[A Williams]

Ray_Net wrote:

cyberzen wrote on 23-11-17 22:08:

hello

when I want to see a video in dailymotion, I can hear the sound, but
the image remains black
no problem with firefox

http://www.dailymotion.com

Same for me: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6a1nsi
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/49.0 SeaMonkey/2.46


I get sound and vision.  SM 2.46 under Linux.
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Re: Gmail: unknown device blocked

[A Williams]

Paul Marwick wrote:

I've been using Seamonkey mail as my primary email client for a long
time. My main email account is a gmail account, which has been in
existence for a long time as well.

Twice since I installed 2.49.1, I've had messages from Gmail saying that
someone tried to use my password from an unknown device. In both cases,
Seamonkey had been running against the gmail account for a period of
hours at least. One instance was my laptop, then today I got a similar
warning regarding my desktop machine (which runs Seamonkey mail all the
time).

In both instances, once I confirmed that the IP used for the "attempt"
was my own IP, things have gone back to normal.

Is anyone else seeing this sort of error? It may be that Google has done
something to change its security, but it does seem odd that I've only
seen the error since I installed the latest version, and it also seems
odd that Google can't identify the device, even though it normally shows
that I'm accessing the account from a Linux based machine. At the time,
the only thing accessing the Gmail account would have been Seamonkey...

I've also got another IMAP account which is behaving a little oddly. I
access it both with Seamonkey mail and through a webmail interface (the
webmail interface is the most recent version of Horde). Suddenly, any
time I attempt to use the webmail interface from Seamonkey, it is
reporting that the browser doesn't support javascript or javascript is
disabled. I've not changed anything, and I was able to access the
webmail interface after the upgrade to 2.49.1. I can still access it
correctly in Chromium or Firefox - its only Seamonkey that has the problem.

I'm using the official Arch Linux Seamonkey build:

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1
Build identifier: 20171107205422

Paul.



As you can see from the User Agent, I'm still on 2.46.
I have two ISPs, my "normal" one and one for emergencies when the 
"normal" one does not work for some reason (they are totally seperate).

Yesterday I had a problem and switched to the backup ISP.
My gmail access is via IMAP and gmail complained almost immediately, 
saying someone had access to my password and asking if this was really 
me.  The attempted access was blocked.


In my case the messages (and the access) were legitimate.
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Re: 2.49.1 no longer auto completes user name or password

[A Williams]

To the best of my knowledge things are not that simple.
Firefox has cast Thunderbird out into the wilderness, presumably before 
making those changes you are so keen on.  If - this is a guess - those 
changes would have broken Thunderbird, Firefox no longer cares.

Seamonkey does care - for obvious reasons.



cmcadams wrote:

Thank you. So basically the mothership doesn't care much about us, and
isn't communicating changes well or perhaps at all.

Craig


Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

autocomplete was refactored in Gecko 51 (2.48) and then again in 52
(2.49). Including changing some defaults when it comes to non-secure
sites. Was not fun to play catchup. There might still linger other
problems.

FRG

cmcadams wrote:

Bingo, that fixed my modem screens login problem. But...SM was
happily enough filling most forms even with signon.autofillForms.http
set to false. And there were never problems with 1.48 with the
(presumed) same about:config settings. I'll confess I don't get it.

Craig


Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Not sure if this already applies to 2.49.1.

Set signon.autofillForms.http to true and see what goes.

But I think FB should be https or?

FRG


David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/13/2017 4:32 PM, Hawker wrote:

As the subject says, I just installed 2.49.1. In Facebook it still
auto
completes the user name but not password. After entering it still
does
not do it the next time.
On some other sites it neither auto enters the user name or password.
How can I put it back like it was?



Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64)
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.49.1

I have not seen this problem with saved logins.  There are some sites,
however, that construct their login forms in a manner that defeats the
saving of passwords and even defeats the use of existing saved
passwords.  That is a problem with the site and not with SeaMonkey.







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Re: Fresh Win2K problems..

[A Williams]

S Slicer wrote:

Yamo' wrote:

Hi,

Robert Baer a écrit le 12/05/2017 à 11:50 on alt.computer and
mozilla.support.seamonkey :

Robert Baer wrote:

My Win2k got slower and slower, so..
I took a hard drive, wiped it and installed Win2K SP2, then
installed SP4.
Installed my various programs that i had been using.

Well, i have some rather puzzling problems.
1) SeaMonkey 2.9 refuses to allow DuckDuckGo.com to run; the computer
immediately and completely shuts down.
2) In newsgroups, the search facility finds nothing, period.
3) Cannot find option to filter out undesirable messages.

Help, please.

   #4) This link caused SM to crash.
   #5) Numerous links fail to work.




This post won't be seen on mozilla.support.seamonkey by many users
because the only server where you can post to it is news.mozilla.org


No offense intended, but I found Windows 2000 to be the least compatible
version of Windows that I ever had.  I had numerous crashes, and tons of
software that just wouldn't run on it.


Are you sure you don't mean Windows ME?  It was the Windows 98 successor 
and was an utter mess.
Windows 2000 came between Win NT 4.whatever and Win XP Pro, it was 
definitely not a turkey.


I suppose Win ME's problem was it was a dead end, it was succeeded by XP 
Home which had a completely different code base.

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Re: How to Access News Groups from an Android Cell Phone?

[A Williams]

Arnie Goetchius wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 4/29/17 6:58 PM, Arnie Goetchius wrote:

Richmond wrote:

Arnie Goetchius  writes:


I subscribe to the Mozilla NGs and Eternal-September NGs using SM. Does anyone
have a link that shows the procedures on to access these groups from a cell
phone?

You need a client like this one for example:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.piaohong.NewsReader=en_GB


I downloaded that but could not find any instructions on how to set it up. Any
other clients you can suggest? I don't mind paying for the app as long as I can
access some setup instructions on  what the various settings should be.

I already have Google Chrome installed on my phone. Isn't there a way to access
Usenet groups using Chrome?


This is a SeaMonkey support group.

Chrome support is elsewhere. :)


I certainly only use Chrome when Seamonkey does not work. How about the portable
version of Seamonkey. Any experience with that?

https://portableapps.com/apps/internet/seamonkey_portable




The word "portable" does not mean what you think it does in this 
context.  You run portable Seamonkey from - usually - an USB stick 
sticking into a PC or laptop.

I assume all the data is on the same USB stick, nothing else makes sense.
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Re: 100% CPU plugin-container

[A Williams]

Daniel wrote:

On 22/03/2017 9:19 AM, sean wrote:

sean wrote:

My computer is becoming unusable as the 2.20a2 nightly and the 2.49a2
before it are crashing all browsers left right & sideways thanks to
100% CPU usage of plugin-container & flashplugin-installer. This 100%
usage is bouncing around my 8 CPU cores, whether or not Seamonkey is
in use. I have Firefox & Chromium installed as alternates, in fact the
machine coming out of hibernation/standby registers 100% CPU usage by
plugin-container in at least one core every time it comes out of
hibernation/standby.

sean


still randomly having 100% CPU usage with the culprit being seamonkey's
plugin container... here's hoping the latest nightly version has this
under control...

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:54.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/54.0 SeaMonkey/2.51a2
Build identifier: 20170321013004


Sean, do you have something you want to do with the CPU usage that
SeaMonkey is not using??

If SM is the only thing that I am using/doing stuff with, I'd hope that
my SM was using as much as possible of CPU time.



If SM is doing something useful, yes.  If it is simply looping then 
definitely not.  If the loop persists even after the tab / window / 
browser has been closed or shut down, absolutely not.


I had the last situation for quite a while a couple of years back and it 
got to the stage I wrote a little script to kill Seamonkey, otherwise it 
would be there again after a reboot.

I can't remember which release fixed this problem but it is a while ago now.
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Re: Thanks to All

[A Williams]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/15/2016 1:17 PM, sean wrote:

Robert Drury wrote:

Just wanted to say I've been using Seamonkey, or its predecessors, for
25 years and intend to keep using it.  Thanks, everyone.


Agreed! While I was sorta like Michael Dell's Mom early on in wondering
why anybody would even want a computer at home. Once we went on line in
96 I've been using Netscape/Mozilla/Seamonkey derived products ever
since.I tolerated the FirePhoenix/Bird/Fox & Thunderbird split for a few
years... but eventually returned to Seamonkey...

just elated how nice 2.49a1 is so far...

sean



At the beginning of 1996, I started using Netscape.  Then I went to
Mozilla Suite.  I stayed with Mozilla Suite -- stuck in an aging version
-- when Firefox came along because I did not like the Firefox user
interfacep; I still do not like it.  With the initial release of
SeaMonkey, I finally updated to it.

I see much happening to Firefox that I do not like.  That includes the
blocking of NPAPI plugins, extensions that are not Webextensions, and
many themes.  Overall, Mozilla is following a path to make Firefox a
clone of Chrome.  If I wanted Chome, I would download and install it.



Pretty much the same story here.
I may have experimented with Netscape 3 but only really got going when 
version 4 came out.  This was initially under whatever Windows version 
was around at the time, then - when Netscape 4.x was ported to Linux - 
on both platforms.  When I use Firefox at all, it is the ESR version.

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Re: Can't Watch MLB.TV Games

[A Williams]

Sanpam wrote:

Is anyone able to watch the live games on MLB.TV with SM? All I get is a
spinning circle. The games work fine using IE 11. Any fix for this? I
think it does involve flash.


I have been experimenting with Seamonkey, Firefox ESR and Chromium 
starting with http://m.mlb.com/scoreboard

Linux, no Flash installed although I think Chromium has its own Flash.

Seamonkey shows the "Additional plugins are required to display all the 
media on this page", I don't know what is missing.  The page frequently 
blacks out completely, combined with high IP usage.  Clicking on the 
video links - when I can see them - brings up videos which don't play, 
probably a problem with a helper application.


Firefox ESR tends to also suffer from the blacked-out page, and it also 
has the problem that one processor often runs at 100%.  Unlike 
Seamonkey, the problems resolve after a minute or so.  The videos work 
perfectly.


Chromium does not suffer from either blacked-out pages or 100% IP usage, 
videos do not play.


I hardly ever use Firefox or Chromium so their "Options" are pretty much 
the default ones.  Firefox will be using the "OpenH264 Video Codec 
provided by Cisco Systems 1.5.3" and that does not appear to be 
available for Seamonkey.


What a messed-up site.
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Re: (Linux 64) SeaMonkey 2.40 Menu Corruption

[A Williams]

NoOp wrote:

In SM 2.40 (Linux64) I have started to get menu box screen corruption -
both Browser and Mail menus). If I scroll up and down the menu box
quickly with the mouse menu items dissapear or turn black - see
screenshot at:



User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:43.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/43.0 SeaMonkey/2.40
Build identifier: 20160118183220

This appears to only be happening on the Linux 64 version on one machine
- no other screen corruption occurs on this machine with other
applications. I can reproduce in safe mode, I cannot reproduce with
SeaMonkey 2.40 Windows 10 if I reboot into that OS.

This only started with 2.40 - anyone else come across this issue?



Are you using nouveau by any chance?  I am and Strange Things (tm) 
happen quite frequently.

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Re: flash

[A Williams]

Mason83 wrote:

On 18/03/2016 20:07, Pat Connors wrote:


Lately my flash stops working.  I thought it was SM 2.39 and
downloaded 2.40 and still acting the same. Any suggestions?
Also with both, my downloader stopped working?


Let me fetch my soapbox!

Flash must die already. And proprietary codecs must die with it.
Might as well kill software patents, while we're at it.
Note: HEVC licensing is a minefield.

The future of the open web is HTML5  embedding WebM using
royalty-free VP10 and Opus. I don't need Flash to watch Youtube.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML5_video
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebM_Project
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VP9
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opus_%28audio_format%29

Other interesting video codecs: Daala, Thor.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daala
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thor_%28video_codec%29
https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item=Libvpx-VP10-Starts
http://xiphmont.livejournal.com/tag/xiph

Regards.



Google were accidentally spreading rootkits a few days ago, the adverts 
they were pushing turned out to be compromised.  The rootkits were then 
used to spread ransomware.
I looked the rootkits up, one needed a Java or a Flash vulnerability to 
get established, the other used a zero-day Flash exploit.
Of the top 10 exploits last year (or was it 2014?), 8 were Flash.  The 
top 8.  The other two were Internet Exploder.
My PC at work has Flash installed and I can't remove it.  I have 
disabled it (and Java) in the browser.

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Re: updates... *finally*?

[A Williams]

Edmund Wong wrote:

Hi All,

Just wish to announce that I believe the updates are working
now.

Please confirm.  I tried it locally and it looks ok.

Edmund



Win XP and Win 7 both work, I'm waiting for the Opensuse repository to 
serve things up here.

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Re: Eabling Java

[A Williams]

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

stan pierce wrote:

I use NoScript and often get the message from applications to enable
Java. To do this, I
Temporarily Allow This Page. Is there a simpler or better was to
enable Java? Thanks. Stan.


Doesn't SM have a built in pop up to enable Java?
FF does.  I use FF and Java to connect to my employer's servers via a VPN.
Otherwise I have no use for Java except for one site that allows 3-D
rendering of
complex molecules.  Hardly anyone allows Java anymore due to the
security problems.



Tools -> Add-ons manager -> Plugins
(this is under Linux, but should be the same under Windows)
There you see the various plugins, "Ask to Activate" leads to what you 
(Paul) see under FF.


Noscript overrides this.
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Re: Does Bit Defender work with SM?

[A Williams]

Larry S. wrote:

My wife has to replace her computer (hard drive kaput). After some
research she is interested in Bit Defender (2016 version)for the new
Windows 10 machine, but has read a couple of reports that there is a
problem using BD with SM.

Does anyone here have any insights and/or opinions about the issue?

Thank you for any and all informed views.

Larry S.


I have seen enough complaints here about Norton Antivirus deciding 
Seamonkey updates are malware, but never Bit Defender.  Where has she 
heard that it is a problem?

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Re: seamonkey UI

[A Williams]

Michael Ströder wrote:

Paul Gheno wrote:

the advent of mobile technology has changed the way GUIs are thoughts
the reason why is screen size.


All Seamonkey users I know of have desktop systems.

Ciao, Michael.



I have also used it on a laptops for years as well.  Just saying.
The only real difference in configuration needed is that I keep POP3 
input messages for 3 (?) months or until I delete them.

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Re: Blocked images in email

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Ed Mullen wrote:

I receive a periodic HTML email newsletter from my investment advisor's
firm.  I used to see the graphics but no longer can, not even in old
emails going back to 2013.  I only see empty boxes.

The person sending the newsletter uses mailchimp.com and the images
reside on their server. The email itself comes from a different mail
server.

Oddly, in Thunderbird I see the images.

I can't figure out why SM is blocking them and TB is not.  Any help
greatly appreciated.



Edit -> Preferences -> Mail & Newsgroups -> Message Display
"Block images and other content from remote sources"

would be my guess.
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Re: Seamonkey 2.39: data amanger broken (Linux x64-86)

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Philippe Conde wrote:

Hello,

When I open the data manager I have only the cookies tab all other tabs
(permission, preference, password) are missing => I see a long gray bar at
their location
Choosing a site where I have password (this password is automatically filled
when I log to the site) I have still only the tab cookies and and gray bar
at the place of the other tabs

The error console shows
"Timestamp: 26/12/15 17:55:10
Error: NS_ERROR_FAILURE: Component returned failure code: 0x80004005
(NS_ERROR_FAILURE) [nsIURI.host]
Source File: chrome://communicator/content/dataman/dataman.js
Line: 288"

Anybody has the same problem?
Regards
Philippe



Works for me.
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:42.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/42.0 SeaMonkey/2.39


Must be database corruption.
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Re: Enable Java

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OldFeller wrote:

How do I enable Java Script for only the browser webpage page I am
trying to view?



afaik Seamonkey does not offer this directly.

You could install the add-on "Noscript" (which is itself mostly written 
in JavaScript) and that allows you to execute or prohibit scripts at the 
site-level.

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Re: Managing Permissions

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mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:

A Williams - root@127.0.0.1 wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/29/2015 4:45 AM, A Williams wrote:

I tend to give most "collateral damage" sites the "Allow for Session"
setting for Cookies.  Today I went through the permissions listing
and
discovered that quite a few unwanted sites have the "Allow" setting.

So I changed the permissions to "Allow for Session".

Positioning to the next site and back again, I see that the
Permissions
are immediately reset to "Allow".  Deleting all existing cookies (for
the site) and then trying again does not help.

How do I make this change - my personal "do not track" - stick?



It may not help with the permissions not sticking, but why not set the
default cookie retention policy to "Accept for current session only"
(Edit > Preferences > Privacy & Security > Cookies), and then set the
permission to "Allow" for specific sites which you want to allow to
store persistent cookies? That way, you don't allow previously unknown
sites to set persistent cookies; only those which you explicitly allow
can do that.

Also, bear in mind that restricting cookies to a session won't prevent
them from being used to track activity across several sites which you
visit in the same session.



My setting there is: Ask for each cookie, except for session cookies.
That gives me (almost!) all of the control I need.  This thread is about 
the "almost".





Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64)
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:42.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.39

That is not happening for me.



I think I can see what is happening and it appears my permissions.sqlite
is corrupt.  Taking a site at random (ok, its near the top)
http://123people.com
When I look at the permissions for that site, "Set Cookies" is in there
twice - two lines for the one entry - changing one of the lines works,
the second one is resilient.


Are they both for the same subdomain? It may be, for example, that one
is for 123people.com and the other for www.123people.com, which is not a
duplicate.


Maybe I could get out of this if it was possible to delete permissions
but it does not appear to be.


I think ticking the "Use Default" option should to that - the permission
disappears after you switch to a different domain and back again. But if
your database is actually corrupt that may not work.


possibility 1 - rename the file and start again.


Probably your best bet, if the database is actually corrupt.


possibility 2 - get some utility which can clean up a "SQLite 3.x
database, user version 8" under Linux.


I'm not sure of specifics off the top of my head, but others here have
mentioned an application for editing the data in SQLite databases. You'd
probably need to understand the structure of the database records
though, to know what needs to be deleted. If you attempt this,
definitely make a backup of your profile first!


possibility 3 - "it does not matter what the second line says, it is the
first one which counts" would be the perfect solution!

Something which could compress places.sqlite (21GB) or
webappsstore.sqlite (10GB) would also not be a bad idea.  Further
research is called for.  Thanks.


 From <http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_folder_-_SeaMonkey>, apparently
places.sqlite stores browsing history and bookmarks. Perhaps clearing
browsing history would compact it? Edit > Preferences > Browser >
History > Clear History.

webappsstore.sqlite isn't listed there, but I'd guess that's where web
applications can store data on your computer so perhaps one or other of
the following are relevant:
- Tools > Data Manager; select "Storage only" from the dropdown near the
top left corner to see sites with data stored (I don't have any, and my
webappsstore.sqlite is 3kB, but perhaps you have lots)
- Edit > Preferences > Advanced > Offline Apps; from there you can
either clear all data, or just clear the data for specific sites if you
want to keep some sites. I have the option there set to only allow sites
I've given permission to store data, which probably keeps the size down
(I only have one site listed there, using 401kB, but I think that may be
stored in
%LOCALAPPDATA%\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\\OfflineCache\ rather
than webappsstore.sqlite).

Mark.



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Re: Managing Permissions

[A Williams]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/30/2015 2:47 AM, Daniel wrote:

On 30/11/2015 3:34 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/29/2015 4:45 AM, A Williams wrote:

I tend to give most "collateral damage" sites the "Allow for Session"
setting for Cookies.  Today I went through the permissions listing and
discovered that quite a few unwanted sites have the "Allow" setting.

So I changed the permissions to "Allow for Session".

Positioning to the next site and back again, I see that the Permissions
are immediately reset to "Allow".  Deleting all existing cookies (for
the site) and then trying again does not help.

How do I make this change - my personal "do not track" - stick?



I found the best solution (best for me) to be with the PrefBar extension
from <https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/prefbar/>.  I
imported into PrefBar the Permissions Menu menulist from
<http://prefbar.tuxfamily.org/buttons.html#permissionsmenu> and used it
to get the old Cookies Manager.

On the Cookie Websites tab, I deleted entries for Web sites that
indicate "website can set cookes" and re-entered those sites with the
Session button.  If I want to block a Web site completely from setting
cookies, I select the Stored Cookies tab on Cookie Manager.  I check the
"Don't allow websites that set removed cookies to set future cookies"
checkbox and then delete the unwanted cookies.

Note that, after the Stored Cookies tab indicates only those cookies I
really want to keep, I terminate the Cookie Manager and SeaMonkey.
After making sure that everything is terminated, I locate cookies.sqlite
in my profile and mark it "read-only".  Web sites might think they are
setting persistent cookies but those cookies do not get written to their
database when SeaMonkey is terminated.  They all become "session only".


Thank you, David, for providing your work-arounds, but, if I mark a
cookie as "Allow for Session Only", why does SM ignore my wishes and
change the cookies setting to "Allow". Do the Devs know better, or
something??



Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64)
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:42.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.39

That is not happening for me.



I think I can see what is happening and it appears my permissions.sqlite 
is corrupt.  Taking a site at random (ok, its near the top) 
http://123people.com
When I look at the permissions for that site, "Set Cookies" is in there 
twice - two lines for the one entry - changing one of the lines works, 
the second one is resilient.
Maybe I could get out of this if it was possible to delete permissions 
but it does not appear to be.


possibility 1 - rename the file and start again.
possibility 2 - get some utility which can clean up a "SQLite 3.x 
database, user version 8" under Linux.
possibility 3 - "it does not matter what the second line says, it is the 
first one which counts" would be the perfect solution!


Something which could compress places.sqlite (21GB) or 
webappsstore.sqlite (10GB) would also not be a bad idea.  Further 
research is called for.  Thanks.

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Re: Managing Permissions

[A Williams]

EE wrote:

A Williams wrote:

I tend to give most "collateral damage" sites the "Allow for Session"
setting for Cookies.  Today I went through the permissions listing and
discovered that quite a few unwanted sites have the "Allow" setting.

So I changed the permissions to "Allow for Session".

Positioning to the next site and back again, I see that the Permissions
are immediately reset to "Allow".  Deleting all existing cookies (for
the site) and then trying again does not help.

How do I make this change - my personal "do not track" - stick?


Try the advice here:
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Preferences_not_saved



Thanks, but this advice looks to be for another problem.  Updating my 
preferences works just fine, my problem is with permissions for some - 
not all - websites.  They will be in permissions.sqlite.

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Managing Permissions

[A Williams]

I tend to give most "collateral damage" sites the "Allow for Session" 
setting for Cookies.  Today I went through the permissions listing and 
discovered that quite a few unwanted sites have the "Allow" setting.


So I changed the permissions to "Allow for Session".

Positioning to the next site and back again, I see that the Permissions 
are immediately reset to "Allow".  Deleting all existing cookies (for 
the site) and then trying again does not help.


How do I make this change - my personal "do not track" - stick?
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Re: Warning of Registry Error - Call 800 - Blah Blah Blah !

[A Williams]

Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Jonathan N. Little wrote on 21/11/2015 17:23:

DoctorBill wrote:

"Let him decide by himself ..."

THANK YOU !


Just as long as you reconcile with yourself that you are going to
encounter more issues not less as more and more developers forego
supporting a no-longer-supported-OS.


Certainly ...but I think that the OP is planning to purchase a new PC
with an OS greater than XP.


Did not see any evidence of that, only some hostile reaction when a
valid option of installing Linux was proposed.



Well I can understand that.  XP to Win 7 was a small jump, XP to Win 10 
is probably larger but XP to Linux is a whole new game.  Most Linux 
distribution levels are only supported for 2-3 years so then you have to 
upgrade again.

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Re: Warning of Registry Error - Call 800 - Blah Blah Blah !

[A Williams]

Arnie Goetchius wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

Every once in a while I get stuck in a
"Warningregistry virus error..."

=snipped


There are a ton of free anti virus/malware/pupware
programs for XP3.
You may want to search for some.



I have up to SPS2.


Is there some reason you have not done the free upgrade to XP SP3?



I can think of one and only one valid reason off the top of my head.

Take one HP machine using an AMD 64-bit processor.  HP had an image for 
Intel processors and at one point they simply started using it for their 
AMD offerings as well.  Upgrading one of those to SP3 kills it.


It does sound as though Dr Bill's machine could already be compromised 
though, a decent bootable virus scanner would say more.

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Re: image files in disk cache

[A Williams]

Richard Owlett wrote:

David H. Durgee wrote:

I seem to recall the ability in the past to access an image file
in the disk cache from the media table in the page information,
but at present I am unable to locate it.  I can of course select
an image and save it to a file elsewhere, but when I only need
the file for immediate use this requires me to take action to
delete this file when I am done with it.

Am I missing a setting somewhere?  How can I access an image file
without needing to save it outside the cache for one-time-use
situations?

Dave


If I understand your question, Go->History .
I just tried it. Also found that using History's search box entering
"jpg" [without quotes] displayed only images in jpg format.

HTH



does about:cache help you find what you want?
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Re: Plugin container for Sea Monkey stopped working (v 2.10)

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WaltS48 wrote:

On 10/22/2015 12:19 PM, A Williams wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 10/21/2015 11:09 AM, A Williams wrote:

funtotan...@gmail.com wrote:

On Sunday, June 10, 2012 at 5:01:49 AM UTC-7, Lee wrote:

This warning has just popped up in the last couple of days, is anyone
else having this warning.  Don't know what it effects as it all seems
to be working correctly except for the warning.   Am using Vista.


Yes I am having this problem with SM.  How can we get this resolved?



What version are you running?



Version 2.10 as mentioned in the Subject. ?



The original posting carries a date of June 2012, which is around the
time v 2.10 was current so I'm inclined to believe it.
funtotango's posting was a couple of days ago so I'm rather expecting
him to be running a current level.



Unfortunately fun to tango's post was posted through Google groups and
one of those me to posts that they never respond to when asked for more
information.

Apologies to funtotango if they have a legitimate problem.

Start a new thread identifying your operating system, version of
SeaMonkey and  any other details.

Probably too busy tangoing.



yes, I'd noticed the Grougle Goops aspect as well.  You need a valid 
email addr to set up GG so I could mail him (?) if I really cared.

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Re: Plugin container for Sea Monkey stopped working (v 2.10)

[A Williams]

WaltS48 wrote:

On 10/21/2015 11:09 AM, A Williams wrote:

funtotan...@gmail.com wrote:

On Sunday, June 10, 2012 at 5:01:49 AM UTC-7, Lee wrote:

This warning has just popped up in the last couple of days, is anyone
else having this warning.  Don't know what it effects as it all seems
to be working correctly except for the warning.   Am using Vista.


Yes I am having this problem with SM.  How can we get this resolved?



What version are you running?



Version 2.10 as mentioned in the Subject. ?



The original posting carries a date of June 2012, which is around the 
time v 2.10 was current so I'm inclined to believe it.
funtotango's posting was a couple of days ago so I'm rather expecting 
him to be running a current level.

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Re: Plugin container for Sea Monkey stopped working (v 2.10)

[A Williams]

funtotan...@gmail.com wrote:

On Sunday, June 10, 2012 at 5:01:49 AM UTC-7, Lee wrote:

This warning has just popped up in the last couple of days, is anyone
else having this warning.  Don't know what it effects as it all seems
to be working correctly except for the warning.   Am using Vista.


Yes I am having this problem with SM.  How can we get this resolved?



What version are you running?
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Re: Something trying to trick SeaMonkey?

[A Williams]

chicagofan wrote:


Don't know if this has anything to do with what you are experiencing,
but a friend of mine who runs a business from her home with her husband,
experienced something new last week.  They also have a lot of webcams,
and she says they have been hit with a lot of Russian attempts to hack
their server through their webcams.   She lives in Wisconsin, FWIW.

On the heels of that came some warnings online about webcams being
hacked.   Sorry, I really don't have a clue if this is a SM problem, or
something similar to my friend's problem ... outside attempted hacks.
bj



Gloriously off-topic for the rest of this thread, but the site 
http://www.insecam.org/ was originally presented as being Russian.

Cameras which appear here have no password so I'd hardly call it "hacking".
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Re: Cache in 2.35?

[A Williams]

Ray_Net wrote:

A Williams wrote on 14/09/2015 18:21:

Ray_Net wrote:

Philip Chee wrote on 11/09/2015 20:32:

On 10/09/2015 18:27, Tom Pamin wrote:

Is cache once again handled differently in 2.35? Instaed of cache2, is
it back to using just the cache folder? I also have a cache.trash4895
folder now too?

Yes we switched back to the old cache code. You can delete
everything in
/cache2/ directory now.

Phil


I am still under 2.32
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:35.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/35.0 SeaMonkey/2.32

And i cannot see the /cache/ nor the /cache2/ directory - Is it normal ?


(Edit) -> Preferences -> Advanced -> Cache
and then look for "Cache Folder Location".  It was not what I expected
to see.

I'm still running 2.33.1 because Opensuse have not put the new 2.35 in
the repository yet, 2.33.1 still uses /cache2.

Thanks ! All the stuff is hereunder
C:\Users\RZ\AppData\Local\Mozilla\SeaMonkey

What happens if I delete the complete directory
C:\Users\RZ\AppData\Local\Mozilla\SeaMonkey ?



Look what else is there, my guess would be your entire profile including 
mails, bookmarks and everything else.  Deleting that could be said to be 
a bad move.

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Re: Cache in 2.35?

[A Williams]

Ray_Net wrote:

Philip Chee wrote on 11/09/2015 20:32:

On 10/09/2015 18:27, Tom Pamin wrote:

Is cache once again handled differently in 2.35? Instaed of cache2, is
it back to using just the cache folder? I also have a cache.trash4895
folder now too?

Yes we switched back to the old cache code. You can delete everything in
/cache2/ directory now.

Phil


I am still under 2.32
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:35.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/35.0 SeaMonkey/2.32

And i cannot see the /cache/ nor the /cache2/ directory - Is it normal ?


(Edit) -> Preferences -> Advanced -> Cache
and then look for "Cache Folder Location".  It was not what I expected 
to see.


I'm still running 2.33.1 because Opensuse have not put the new 2.35 in 
the repository yet, 2.33.1 still uses /cache2.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.38b1 - add-on version numbers no longer shown in add-On-Manager

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Rainer Bielefeld wrote:

On 09.09.2015 01:13, NoOp wrote:

Is this a bug or the way the new version will appear from now on?


Hello,

please see "Bug 1202990 - Add-on Manager needs special add-on to show
add-on-versions"


CU

Rainer


That is marked WONTFIX.
What about submitting a bug against the root of this behaviour: Firefox.
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Re: Maximize this vid?

[A Williams]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Can anyone figure out how to play this video in full screen, or
nearly-full screen? I really hate peering through that keyhole.


The FS button at lower left seems not to work, even on (ahem) the other
browser from Redmond...




We're sorry, but this video is not available in your region due to right 
restrictions.


(btw, I read today that Rupert Murdoch is in the process of taking over 
National Geographic's print operation, 
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/national-geographic-fox-enter-profit-venture/ 
)

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Re: Removing a site from location bar history

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no...@nonospam.org wrote:

I'm running SeaMonkey v2.33.1 on a Windows 7 machine.

I misspelled a website address and ended up on a real site that is of no
interest to me. Now every time I start to enter the address of the site
I want, this misspelled site shows up at the top of the list in the
location bar.

I have unchecked everything in Preferences-Browser-History, cleared
history, and cleared location bar.

I have unchecked Autocomplete in Preferences-Browser-Location Bar

I have cleared Private Data in Preferences-Browser-Privacy  Security

I have cleared Cache in Preferences-Browser-Advanced

Rebooted and restarted SeaMonkey.

With all of these things turned off, the misspelled site no longer shows
up, but as soon as I turn the settings back on it is there again.

I searched the Windows registry and didn't find it.

Where is this information stored? How can I get rid of it, as if I had
never visited the site?

Thanks!


I have discovered another way of nuking this information:
(in the Browser) Go - History  and then delete any line(s) you don't 
want.  You will note that the list is searchable.

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Re: Removing a site from location bar history

[A Williams]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 7/27/2015 8:08 AM, A Williams wrote:

no...@nonospam.org wrote:

I'm running SeaMonkey v2.33.1 on a Windows 7 machine.

I misspelled a website address and ended up on a real site that is of no
interest to me. Now every time I start to enter the address of the site
I want, this misspelled site shows up at the top of the list in the
location bar.

I have unchecked everything in Preferences-Browser-History, cleared
history, and cleared location bar.

I have unchecked Autocomplete in Preferences-Browser-Location Bar

I have cleared Private Data in Preferences-Browser-Privacy  Security

I have cleared Cache in Preferences-Browser-Advanced

Rebooted and restarted SeaMonkey.

With all of these things turned off, the misspelled site no longer shows
up, but as soon as I turn the settings back on it is there again.

I searched the Windows registry and didn't find it.

Where is this information stored? How can I get rid of it, as if I had
never visited the site?

Thanks!


I have discovered another way of nuking this information:
(in the Browser) Go - History  and then delete any line(s) you don't
want.  You will note that the list is searchable.



I do not think that works.  I have entries in my address area (URL bar)
that are NOT in my history.  On the history window, I set [View  Group
by  None] and sorted by URI.



I just tried it on this machine.  It worked, exactly as I had hoped.
Step 1 was to search for the link using part of the url
Step 2 was to delete it from History
After that it was no longer offered to me in the location bar.
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Re: Removing a site from location bar history

[A Williams]

no...@nonospam.org wrote:

I'm running SeaMonkey v2.33.1 on a Windows 7 machine.

I misspelled a website address and ended up on a real site that is of no
interest to me. Now every time I start to enter the address of the site
I want, this misspelled site shows up at the top of the list in the
location bar.

I have unchecked everything in Preferences-Browser-History, cleared
history, and cleared location bar.

I have unchecked Autocomplete in Preferences-Browser-Location Bar

I have cleared Private Data in Preferences-Browser-Privacy  Security

I have cleared Cache in Preferences-Browser-Advanced

Rebooted and restarted SeaMonkey.

With all of these things turned off, the misspelled site no longer shows
up, but as soon as I turn the settings back on it is there again.

I searched the Windows registry and didn't find it.

Where is this information stored? How can I get rid of it, as if I had
never visited the site?

Thanks!


Additional Information:
Sqlite Manager runs under Seamonkey and can be used to edit this file. 
 It might possibly be a better idea to run this add-on under Firefox 
when Seamonkey is not running - I simply don't know.


You want the table moz_places and the field url
Search that for http://badlink.you.want.to.delete and then you can 
simply delete that line.  I just did that on my system.  All I have to 
check is what happens when I exit and restart Seamonkey.

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Re: Flash plug-in

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Bret Busby wrote:

On 17/07/2015, Keith N. McKenna keith.mcke...@comcast.net wrote:

Bret Busby wrote:

On 17/07/2015, EE nu...@bees.wax wrote:



Has anyone ever called Flash venerable?  I doubt that it is worthy of
that much respect.



I thought that it was only a bead that was venerable; the venerable bead.


If you are referring to the Anglo-Saxon Monk, Priest, and Scholar it is
actually Bede.
Keith



I was being facetious.


From what I understand, that Bede was a creative historian, with

recording as having existed, King Arthur and the Knights Of the Round
Table, possibly dragons, and other fantasy things. Whether he also
recorded Asterix and Obelix, as having saved Londinium from the
Romans, I am not sure.



Never let the truth get in the way of a good story?
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Re: Removing a site from location bar history

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no...@nonospam.org wrote:

I'm running SeaMonkey v2.33.1 on a Windows 7 machine.

I misspelled a website address and ended up on a real site that is of no
interest to me. Now every time I start to enter the address of the site
I want, this misspelled site shows up at the top of the list in the
location bar.

I have unchecked everything in Preferences-Browser-History, cleared
history, and cleared location bar.

I have unchecked Autocomplete in Preferences-Browser-Location Bar

I have cleared Private Data in Preferences-Browser-Privacy  Security

I have cleared Cache in Preferences-Browser-Advanced

Rebooted and restarted SeaMonkey.

With all of these things turned off, the misspelled site no longer shows
up, but as soon as I turn the settings back on it is there again.

I searched the Windows registry and didn't find it.

Where is this information stored? How can I get rid of it, as if I had
never visited the site?

Thanks!


My guess (ok, more than a guess) is that you need to look at 
places.sqlite, http://kb.mozillazine.org/Places.sqlite tells you more 
about the file.

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Re: Removing a site from location bar history

[A Williams]

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

notme wrote:


I misspelled a website address and ended up on a real site that is of no
interest to me. Now every time I start to enter the address of the site
I want, this misspelled site shows up at the top of the list in the
location bar.


What happens if you scroll to, and highlight, the unwanted link in the
dropdown and press your Delete key?



I had a similar problem months ago and tried that.  No.
As I already posted in this thread. the addon Sqlite Manager is the 
cleanest way of fixing this.

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Re: help needed posting

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chicagofan wrote:

Earl Hicks wrote:

Jon  Ed were right on
there was a slight difference in the smtp addressing

Thanks for the help


I missed your new thread, before I posted my useless response to your
original message.  Sorry about that.

Glad you solved the problem.  :)
bj


The best time for a useless response is after the original problem has 
been fixed and the original poster is happy. ;-)

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Re: Flash plug-in

[A Williams]

John Duncan wrote:

rjkrjk wrote:

follow the link to adobe, and d/l current version 1800 209



Paul in Houston, TX wrote on 7/14/2015 12:27 AM:

Paul Bergsagel wrote:

I got the message in SeaMonkey Shockwave Flash is venerable. Use
with caution yesterday
and updated to the latest up to date flash plug-in.

Today I get the same warning about flash. I clicked on the add-ons
manager under the Tools
menu and clicked on Check to see if your plugins are up to date
which takes me to
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/plugincheck/  only to inform me that
all versions of Adobe's
Flash Player are currently vulnerable.

BTW I am using MacOS X. How safe is it to activate flash when it has
been blocked by
Seamonkey because it is outdated?

Thanks,
Paul.


https://helpx.adobe.com/security/products/flash-player/apsa15-04.html

How safe?  That's relative to YOUR browsing habits and computer
knowledge.
I am not the least bit concerned about my machines.
The small kids next door probably already have their computers infected.


A good point, but still, technically speaking, all versions of flash
(and newer versions of the java plugin) have some nasty new 0-days
because of that stupid italian ``hacking team'' that recently themselves
got hacked. Still, with good browsing habits and a bit of common sense,
most power users should be fine.


In this context, the Italian Hacking Job was a good thing.  The Italians 
were already using the exploit and now everybody is aware of it.  I read 
just now that the count of flaws in Flash found so far this month is 
up to 38.  Finally people are thinking of killing the beast.


Was the message really Shockwave Flash is venerable. Use with caution?
That would imply it was simply complaining about an older version.
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Re: Switched to Firefox/Thunderbird on my laptop

[A Williams]

Daniel wrote:

On 12/07/2015 9:49 PM, A Williams wrote:

Daniel wrote:

On 12/07/2015 4:41 AM, Cruz, Jaime wrote:

With being almost three months behind on security updates I couldn't
take a chance anymore.  I left my desktop system up on Seamonkey but
I've switched over to Firefox/Thunderbird on my laptop since I never
know from where I'll be connecting from one week to the next.

Fortunately, the transition was easy enough.  Just had to copy the
entire contents of the Seamonkey folder into the Firefox and
Thunderbird
folders after they were installed.  I did notice that although Firefox
installed as a sub-folder in my existing .mozilla folder, Thunderbird
created its profile directory outside in its own .thunderbird
folder.  I
thought that was a bit odd.


Jamie, does this mean that when you install a new Firefox version (not
upgrade, but complete new version) will the new Firefox write itself
over the top of your profile??



No.  firefox and seamonkey are both subfolders under the .mozilla
directory.  That has been the case for many years now.


Not a problem!! Just, the way I read Jamie's post, the profile was being
created as a sub-directory of the actual Firefox program install, so, if
you deleted the Firefox program, you would also delete the profile.

If that's not the case, no problem!!



Jaime is posting under Linux (the user agent), and a directory called 
.mozilla is also a clear indication that we are not talking Windows 
here.  The install directory is most probably under /usr (or possibly 
/opt) but the data is under /home.
Having said that, there really is no problem here - that's simply the 
way things are.


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Re: Switched to Firefox/Thunderbird on my laptop

[A Williams]

Daniel wrote:

On 12/07/2015 4:41 AM, Cruz, Jaime wrote:

With being almost three months behind on security updates I couldn't
take a chance anymore.  I left my desktop system up on Seamonkey but
I've switched over to Firefox/Thunderbird on my laptop since I never
know from where I'll be connecting from one week to the next.

Fortunately, the transition was easy enough.  Just had to copy the
entire contents of the Seamonkey folder into the Firefox and Thunderbird
folders after they were installed.  I did notice that although Firefox
installed as a sub-folder in my existing .mozilla folder, Thunderbird
created its profile directory outside in its own .thunderbird folder.  I
thought that was a bit odd.


Jamie, does this mean that when you install a new Firefox version (not
upgrade, but complete new version) will the new Firefox write itself
over the top of your profile??



No.  firefox and seamonkey are both subfolders under the .mozilla 
directory.  That has been the case for many years now.

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Re: How dead is SeaMonkey?

[A Williams]

Paul Bergsagel wrote:

Edmund Wong wrote:


I've been dedicating most of my time working on getting builds on Win32
running.  I know it isn't much and there are a lot of other stuff I was
hoping to do (particularly Sync).

I do apologize for the lack of updates; but, as it is, we're really
down in the resource department (particularly time and people).

I am, as I've posted, getting trunk and (hopefully) aurora nightlies
done consistently.  Then I'm doing the l10n repacks (nightly).
Once that can be consistently done, I'm going to do the release
when I have the necessary information.

I realize it's not the kind of update you're looking for, but those
are the steps that I need to do in order to get updates to release.

Thank you for everyone's patience.

Edmund

Edmund,

Thank you for all your hard work updating SeaMonkey. All your hard work
(and all the other devs) is very much appreciated. I am willing to wait
for SeaMonkey to be updated. Many thanks for all the hard work.

Maybe the time has come to reconsider how often SeaMonkey needs to be
updated. Does SeaMonkey benefit, in the long run, with such a rapid
update schedule?  If SeaMonkey adopted a less frequent update schedule
would the net benefits be greater than if SeaMonkey continued with the
current rapid update schedule?



I think most - but not all - Seamonkey users have no problems with the 
features coming a bit later, as long as the security holes are fixed. 
Let the Firefox/Thunderbird users beta-test new features for us.


The problem is that it is difficult to have one without the other.  The 
security patches are for a code base which includes the new features - 
hell - a large proportion of the security patches *are* for the new 
features.  Deliberately remaining a bit behind is a slippery slope.
It is unfortunate that the child (Firefox, Thunderbird) does not help 
the parent a bit more with resources.

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Re: Is this Maleware or a scam ?

[A Williams]

Robert Kaiser wrote:

DoctorBill schrieb:

scam or Maleware


Note that the word is malware, it's because it is malicious, not
because it's male or female.

KaiRo



I thought the implication was that males are malicious.
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Re: RETR command did not succeed. Yahoo

[A Williams]

SamuelS wrote:

Hello all,

Can anyone shed light on RETR command when trying to dl email messages
to SM from yahoo?

The RETR command did not succeed. Error retrieving a message. Mail
server pop.mail.yahoo.com responded: inactivity timeout.

I Am running SM 2.32.1 in W 8.1, I have separate folders on my D drive
for each folder. Crazy, but the only way I could figure out that SM
would permit me to use that drive.. I had to re-install w 8.1 and start
from scratch in terms of reloading programs etc...

At any rate, SM freezes when dl mail and will not dl mail beyond message
2756 without returning the above message and a time out too...

I have also increased the time out to 300 seconds. What Am I not doing
correctly for this to work, again? The other Yahoo accounts dl fine.

I have tried g'ling the error message to find a solution and have come
up empty, for the most part and have tried implementing suggestions
found to no avail.

Any suggestions or guides for this?

TIA - bo1953



RETR will be retrieve.
I'd use the web interface to see what there is there, if there is 
anything beyond 2756.  Possible corruption in your downloaded-mails 
directory.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.33b1 released

[A Williams]

hawker wrote:

On 2/26/2015 9:47 PM, Thee Chicago Wolf (MVP) wrote:

On Thu, 26 Feb 2015 17:34:58 -0800, Ant ant@zimage.comANT wrote:


Did you drop support for Windows XP?
When trying to start 2.33b1 on XP I get:

 The procedure entry point InterlockedCompareExchange64 could
not be
 located in the dynamic link library KERNEL32.dll.

That would be a real pity!

Regards!



I just tried to install on my XP SP3 machine and go the exact same
message.


That is why we have betas. I hope it is a bug. I still use Windows XP
Pro SP3. Did you guys report it in its Bugzilla? :)

I added it to the tracking bug 1132299 which was started by Edmond Wong


Thank you! I hope they will fix it! Now, if I could tell Netgear to
support Windows XP SP3. Argh.


Fix it? Why? XP is deader than dead, even with the POS2009 hack.
They've now switched to VS2013 for compiling so the compiler is
targeting OS from this century. While I did read about this problem
affecting XP SP2 users, I don't think it makes a difference in terms
of SP2/SP3. The future is leaving the past behind. No one is making
proper driver/software support for XP anymore so eventually it just
won't run. It doesn't make sense to compile for something that's EOL
even if a few people are still using it. Maybe the devs will work
around it but I doubt for very long. It will become just too time
consuming to support.



I suspect the core user base of Seamonkey is anachronistic hold outs in
general. Most of us are probably old Netscape 1-4 users who could never
get used to the more modern interface of other browsers and like how the
old Netscape suite worked. IE we get comfortable with one thing and
don't switch unless we have too.

That probably also means that the Seamonkey base has a larger than
average hold out of XP SP3 users.  XP works, little motivation to go to
Win 7. I have it at home, I don't like it.  I'm certainly guilty of both
charges.



My XP machine is an old laptop limping along.  The DVD drive stopped 
working years ago - a controller problem, not a drive problem - so I 
can't install anything newer.
Uninstalled Flash, Java, any obvious security holes.  I have a 
standalone browsing machine (for a limited range of sites) with no data 
worth compromising.  Works for me.


If XP support *was* removed, I'd like to know in advance so I could 
freeze the last working level.

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Re: FF equivalent to SM 2.26.1 ?

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Ed Mullen wrote:

Paul in Houston, TX wrote on 3/2/2015 12:29 PM:

FF equivalent to SM 2.26.1 ?

Hi, can someone tell me the FF equivalent to SM 2.26.1 ?
Thanks.


29




The last one before Australis?  That has to be a bonus.
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Re: Question about Composer

[A Williams]

WaltS48 wrote:

On 02/14/2015 09:05 PM, »Q« wrote:

In news:bocdnttnh9zxaeljnz2dnuu7-aedn...@mozilla.org,
Beauregard T. Shagnasty a.nony.mous@example.invalid wrote:


Mr. Ed wrote:


On 2/14/2015 4:56 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

jeff.nee...@gmail.com wrote on 14/02/2015 19:59:

Hi.  Is anyone aware of a word count facility that can be added to
Composer?
It would be really helpful.  Many thanks again.

Composer is just maintained. There will be no enhancement.
You should use http://bluegriffon.org/


Looks like bluegriffon hasn't been changed in two years.
Hard to believe that it was perfected that long ago.


BlueGriffon is still at least a dozen years newer than Composer.


And Glazman had been working on HTML editors since the days when
Composer was a going concern.  AFAIK, BG is still the best WYSINWOG
html editor.  ;)




One wonders how many security vulnerabilities it is subject to, based on
whatever old Gecko engine it is based on.

No word count, but he might want to take a look at Thimble.

https://thimble.webmaker.org/en-US



Can you have security problems of that nature when editing local html?
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Re: new topic : Does you (( new SeaMonkey fans )) use Composer, Lightning calendar, ?????

[A Williams]

Alex Beauroy wrote:

new topic : Does  you (( new SeaMonkey fans )) use Composer, Lightning
calendar, ?
IRC ChatZilla ???
@lex


Browser, Email and Composer.
I'm not counting the Address Book as a separate entity, its implied by 
Email.
Am thinking about Lightning because my old Sunbird is reliably unstable 
under Linux.

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Re: allowing flash player

[A Williams]

Gerd Schweizer wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher schrieb:

Gerd Schweizer wrote:


In Germany the tv organizations offer cinemas in the internet till one
week after sending. But they need the flash player. How can i tell
seamonkey to allow the actual flash player? It's alreaday installed.


What makes you think it's not allowed? Flash works fine here, has for
years.


A discussion here some time ago.
Some sites deny the access with the text my flash player wouldn't be
actual. After installing the actual version (ends with already
installed) the same result.
Flashblock i don't know, also i don't use whitelists.




actual = means current.  The German word is Aktuell.
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.32 released

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Edmund Wong wrote:

Greetings,

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey 2.32!

For a more complete list of changes in SeaMonkey 2.32, see the What's
New in SeaMonkey 2.32 section of the Release Notes [2], which also
contain a list of known issues and answers to frequently asked
questions. For a more general overview of the SeaMonkey project (and
screen shots!), visit www.seamonkey-project.org.

Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.32
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.32/


I had two major gripes with 2.31.

The first one shows up with the page
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/jan/15/youtube-best-sport-videos-star-wars-chelsea-serena-willimas 
(yep, her name is wrong in the link).
2.31 hung instead of displaying the comments.  I suspect this is related 
to the Chase bug, and 2.32 fixes it.  YES!!


The second one has to do with a plugin I only use under Linux so I'll 
have to wait until opensuse provide the new level.


Still, fixing that Comments bug is going to reduce my Firefox usage a 
lot.  Thanks.

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Re: Seamonkey deinstallieren

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weis...@gmail.com wrote:

Hallo, ich habe zu Testzwecken Seamonkey installiert und würde das Programm 
gerne wieder deinstallieren. Die Installation erfolgte mit der Datei SeaMonkey 
Setup 2.30.exe (29,9 MB). In der Systemsteuerung finde ich keinen Eintrag zu 
Seamonkey.
Wie kann Seamonkey unter Windows 8.1 deinstalliert werden? Im voraus vielen 
Dank. Gruß Jörg

Hello, I have installed for testing purposes Seamonkey and would like to 
uninstall the program. The installation was done with the file SeaMonkey setup 
2.30.exe ( 29.9 MB). In the Control Panel , I find no entry to Seamonkey .
How can Seamonkey be uninstalled 8.1 on Windows? Thank you in advance . 
Greeting Jörg



Da ist SM wohl ohne Admin-Rechte installiert worden.
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=5t=2672609 dürfte helfen.
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SM 2.31 unhappy, Firefox happy.

[A Williams]

One of the websites I use a lot misbehaves with SM 2.31.  The Error 
Console shows an insane number of errors/warnings (starting from the 
oldest):


Timestamp: 20.12.2014 19:48:15
Warning: window.controllers is deprecated. Do not use it for UA detection.
Source File: chrome://editor/content/ComposerCommands.js
Line: 198

Timestamp: 20.12.2014 19:46:53
Error: TypeError: browsers[i] is undefined
Source File: chrome://navigator/content/tabbrowser.xml
Line: 331
(7 of those)

Timestamp: 20.12.2014 19:43:10
Error: SyntaxError: illegal character
Source File: 
https://pixel.quantserve.com/pixel/p-mBVrc_qCgY3g5.gif?media=adlabels=_imp.adserver.doubleclick,_imp.publisher.75295,_imp.placement.284192221,_imp.creative.55719018

Line: 1, Column: 6
Source Code:
GIF89a

followed by 0001 in a box

Timestamp: 20.12.2014 19:43:09
Error: pixel.rubiconproject.com : server does not support RFC 5746, see 
CVE-2009-3555

(3 of these)

Timestamp: 20.12.2014 19:43:10
Warning: Unknown property '-moz-background-clip'.  Declaration dropped.
Source File: http://i.r1-cdn.net/static/css/ilike.css
Line: 423, Column: 22
Source Code:
  -moz-background-clip: padding;

Timestamp: 20.12.2014 19:43:10
Warning: Unknown property '-moz-border-radius'.  Declaration dropped.
Source File: http://i.r1-cdn.net/static/css/ilike.css
Line: 421, Column: 20
Source Code:
  -moz-border-radius: 0 0 0 3px;
(** a large number of the previous 2 errors **)

Timestamp: 20.12.2014 19:43:04
Warning: Unknown property '-moz-box-shadow'.  Declaration dropped.
Followed by an incredibly long string

Warning: Unknown property '-moz-background-size'.  Declaration dropped.
(lots of these)

Timestamp: 20.12.2014 19:43:04
Warning: Error in parsing value for 'display'.  Declaration dropped.
Followed by another very long string

Warning: Unknown property '-moz-flex-basis'.  Declaration dropped.
(hundreds of the last two errors)

complaints about column-rule, column-gap, column-count (unknown 
properties, Declaration dropped)


Warning: Unknown property '-moz-background-size'.  Declaration dropped.
(lots of these)

The full list would blow any size restrictions on this Newsgroup.
SM 2.30 and the current Firefox can both handle the page.
This affects Linux and Windows 7.

Should I be looking for 2.32 beta versions?  Or should I fallback to 2.30?
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Re: Update to SeaMonkey 2.31 caused a crash

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Gerry Hickman wrote:

Hi,

When there's a browser update, and you restart SM, it will run the
updater and then start the browser with a redirect to the release notes.
This has always worked.

Today, I restarted SM, it ran the updater, but then a SM related dialog
(which I've never seen) appeared saying there had been a crash and did
I want to report it. I chose Quit SeaMonkey, and now it seems to work
normally and reports the version as 2.31...



I had something rather like that on a Win 7 x64 machine a week or so 
ago, possibly the day after 2.31 was released.  No problems since.
My case was on the initial update.  Are you saying yours was as well 
(which is what I think you are saying) or that Seamonkey performed the 
update process a second time?

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Re: Seamonkey 2.31 chase web site

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David H. Durgee wrote:

Marisa Ciceran wrote:

Same problem here as of the start of this weekend. I've been on the
phone several times with Chase support about this and this time the
agent I spoke to said he sent a note to their compatibility developers.

I am on 64-bit Windows 7 Pro on on ASUSI7 4790k processor.

Marisa

NoOp wrote:

On 12/08/2014 10:21 AM, Lemuel Johnson wrote:

On 12/8/2014 10:52 AM, NoOp wrote:

On 12/08/2014 05:23 AM, J. Weaver Jr. wrote:

Ken Rudolph wrote:

Ron wrote:

Just got the 2.31 upgrade  now I can't log in to my account on
chase.com I hit logon  it just reloads the log on page. Works in
IE and
Seamonkey 2.30

Same thing happening here.  This is frustrating.  Can I go back to
Seamonkey 2.30?  Or maybe spoof the browser to firefox (which
used to
work when bank sites didn't accept SeaMonkey)?

Same problem here: worked great with IE  2.30, not at all with 2.31.
sigh Is there a Bugzilla entry for this yet?  -JW


https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=109471
( Unable to login at chase.com due to NS_ERROR_FAILURE (SeaMonkey
only))
and for reference, here is a previous one that was fixed last year:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=924025
(Unable to log in at chase.com)


I believe that's actually
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1094714

Lem Johnson


You are correct - thanks for the catch!

Gary



Well, that is enough reason to hold back from upgrading for me!  I have
a Chase account, so until this is fixed or there is a work-around this
one is a show-stopper.

Dave



Well, the cause is now known, and it *is* possible to access the site 
using SM 2.31.  Comment 21 in the 1094714 bug report has it.



The steps recommended by Phillip Chee solved the problem for me (Ken Jarman), 
Thanks Phillip:
1. Restart SeaMonkey. DO NOT go to chase.com YET
2. Open the Error Console (CTRL-SHIFT-J)
3. Evaluate: Components.utils.import(resource://gre/modules/Webapps.jsm);
4. Try to login to chase.com


One hell of a workaround.
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Re: Seamonkey 2.31 chase web site

[A Williams]

David H. Durgee wrote:

A Williams wrote:

David H. Durgee wrote:

Marisa Ciceran wrote:

Same problem here as of the start of this weekend. I've been on the
phone several times with Chase support about this and this time the
agent I spoke to said he sent a note to their compatibility developers.

I am on 64-bit Windows 7 Pro on on ASUSI7 4790k processor.

Marisa

NoOp wrote:

On 12/08/2014 10:21 AM, Lemuel Johnson wrote:

On 12/8/2014 10:52 AM, NoOp wrote:

On 12/08/2014 05:23 AM, J. Weaver Jr. wrote:

Ken Rudolph wrote:

Ron wrote:

Just got the 2.31 upgrade  now I can't log in to my account on
chase.com I hit logon  it just reloads the log on page. Works in
IE and
Seamonkey 2.30

Same thing happening here.  This is frustrating.  Can I go back to
Seamonkey 2.30?  Or maybe spoof the browser to firefox (which
used to
work when bank sites didn't accept SeaMonkey)?

Same problem here: worked great with IE  2.30, not at all with
2.31.
sigh Is there a Bugzilla entry for this yet?  -JW


https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=109471
( Unable to login at chase.com due to NS_ERROR_FAILURE (SeaMonkey
only))
and for reference, here is a previous one that was fixed last year:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=924025
(Unable to log in at chase.com)


I believe that's actually
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1094714

Lem Johnson


You are correct - thanks for the catch!

Gary



Well, that is enough reason to hold back from upgrading for me!  I have
a Chase account, so until this is fixed or there is a work-around this
one is a show-stopper.

Dave



Well, the cause is now known, and it *is* possible to access the site
using SM 2.31.  Comment 21 in the 1094714 bug report has it.


The steps recommended by Phillip Chee solved the problem for me (Ken
Jarman), Thanks Phillip:
1. Restart SeaMonkey. DO NOT go to chase.com YET
2. Open the Error Console (CTRL-SHIFT-J)
3. Evaluate:
Components.utils.import(resource://gre/modules/Webapps.jsm);
4. Try to login to chase.com


One hell of a workaround.


Is this a one-time fixes-it-forever work-around or one that needs to be
repeated every time you restart SeaMonkey?  Is the restart necessary or
just cleaner?

I am assuming now that it is identified it will be fixed in the next
release, correct?  I doubt that Chase is the only site impacted by it.

Dave


I'm assuming it is an each-time-you-restart-seamonkey job.
What it really means is that the developers care *and* know what the 
problem is.  I'd expect the next version of Seamonkey to be fixed.

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Re: To Ed Mullen

[A Williams]

Thee Chicago Wolf (MVP) wrote:

Ed,

Your ejevo...@edmullen.net address bounces. I would like to compare
my EaseUS experience with you. Please reply directly to me, thanks.

Jay O'Brien
jayobr...@att.net


Never, EVER post your real email to Usenet. Even on these news
servers, spammers trawl for addresses to spam.



Why not?  Spammers are welcome to this one.  It is even valid for them, 
if they are using some form of *nix.
That is a reason I *really* like this News Server.  It cheerfully 
accepts whatever address I give it.

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Re: Email-Konto deaktivieren

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dieboxmachtmu...@gmail.com wrote:

Gibt es eine Möglichkeit, ein Email-Konto zu deaktivieren OHNE es zu löschen 
(beispielsweise weil das Konto nicht mehr existiert, man (den Zugriff auf) die 
Nachrichten aber in Seamonkey behalten möchte)?

Danke!



Ich habe die englische Version, aber . . .

Edit - Mail  Newsgroups Account Settings - (die Konto) - Server Settings

und dann ziemlich alles deaktivieren was aussieht als ob es deaktiviert 
gehört.

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Re: pictures in SeaMonkey?

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Bryan Roache wrote:

Hi, how do I turn off pictures in SeaMonkey browser from being loaded? I
do not see an option  to do so  in preferences menu. Did they  remove it
from the new builds?


Has that ever been possible?  You can block images from certain servers 
if you wish, but blocking everything?


What is possible is to prevent images from being loaded in emails:
Preferences - Mail  Newsgroups - Message Display
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Re: SM 2.30 (and FF 33.0) cannot connect to SSL localhost anymore

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EE wrote:

Gabriel wrote:

I'm really upset!
I had this problem with the latest update of FF to v. 33.0 and now the
same is with SM 2.30 OSX (Snow Leopard).

I cannot connect to my local Webmin on https://localhost:nnn/;  (the
same with the local name or 127.0.0.1 IP, 'nnn' is the port number)
because of the error An error occurred during a connection to
127.0.0.1:nnn. The key does not support the requested operation. (Error
code: sec_error_invalid_key).
The local certificate is already in the exception list.
Webmin is the latest version 1.710 and all the component are up to date
(such as openSSL)

SM build:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:33.0)
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/33.0 SeaMonkey/2.30
Build identifier: 20141014004953

Does anyone know how to force SM or FF to connect or how to fix the
problem?

Thank you!

Gabriel


Why do you need a secure connection to the localhost?  It is your own
computer.



You know Google reported a hole in SSL at the start of the week?  It was 
around the time the latest Firefox came out and they were planning to 
disable SSL support with the next level in mid November.
I don't have the newest Seamonkey yet (it has not propagated to my Linux 
distribution yet) but Apple *may* possibly have taken this step already. 
 Firefox disabled configuration except by about:config last year but 
Seamonkey did not.


Preferences - Privacy  Security - SSL - SSL Protocol Versions.
Is SSL 3.0 enabled?
btw:
- the checked boxes have to be contiguous.
- SSL 3.0  TLS 1.0.

Google will tell you how to do this for Firefox.  It was non-intuitive 
to me.


The hole in SSL was large enough to make disabling it a sensible idea. 
My preference would be towards leaving it off rather than keeping it for 
localhost.

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Re: Wrong page

[A Williams]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Chris Ilias wrote:

On 2014-09-17 2:48 PM, A Williams wrote:

Are we stuck with this well-meant posting being at the forefront of this
Newsgroup for all eternity?  Sorry, but it needs to be moderated away
before other less well-meaning posters decide manipulating their clocks
is a good idea.



Go to View--Sort by--Order_Received.


One of many possible options.

My setup is this:

Sort by: Date, Ascending, Threaded
Messages: All
Threads: Threads with unread

In this configuration, the original post with the future date only
appears when the thread contains a (new) unread message, and when that
happens, the thread appears last because it was updated last. As soon as
I read the new message (or mark it as read), the thread no longer has
any unread messages, so it doesn't appear the next time I visit the
newsgroup.

The OP is getting no special priority on my system, so there's no
incentive to for posters to change their clocks. To the contrary, it
will be an annoyance for their other correspondents.



Well yes, and I was thinking of a particular intensely annoying poster 
who issues reams of upper-case garbage.

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Re: Wrong page

[A Williams]

Are we stuck with this well-meant posting being at the forefront of this 
Newsgroup for all eternity?  Sorry, but it needs to be moderated away 
before other less well-meaning posters decide manipulating their clocks 
is a good idea.

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Re: leave on server until i delete

[A Williams]

Trane Francks wrote:

On 8/30/14 10:01 PM, Daniel wrote:

On 30/08/14 07:51, Trane Francks wrote:

On 8/30/14 4:03 AM, A Williams wrote:

Trane Francks wrote:

On 8/29/14 6:15 AM, Rick Merrill wrote:

When does the delete actually happen?  Exit SM or shutdown
computer or
upon delete 1 at a time?


It happens immediately upon deletion (or moving) from the inbox.



Are you sure?
I have web and pop3 access to one of my accounts and occasionally have
call to use both in parallel.
Moving mails from the Inbox to Trash appears to do nothing irrevocable,
nuking them from Trash appears to trigger the update which is then
carried out the next time pop3 checks for new mail.  Get Msgs forces
the issue.  Maybe there is some other factor at work but I'm not
seeing it.


Indeed, I stand corrected. It seems that moving mail out of the inbox
does not cause mail to be deleted upon the next check for mail.


But, Trane, wouldn't that mean you might download the same message again
and again and again??


I don't think so. The server knows the message has been downloaded.



I'll agree on that one.
It knows when it has been downloaded, and (relevant in this case) it 
also knows when it has been deleted.


This is all observation, I have never looked at the code and it would 
probably take me weeks to get my head around it if I did.

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Re: leave on server until i delete

[A Williams]

Trane Francks wrote:

On 8/29/14 6:15 AM, Rick Merrill wrote:

When does the delete actually happen?  Exit SM or shutdown computer or
upon delete 1 at a time?


It happens immediately upon deletion (or moving) from the inbox.



Are you sure?
I have web and pop3 access to one of my accounts and occasionally have 
call to use both in parallel.
Moving mails from the Inbox to Trash appears to do nothing irrevocable, 
nuking them from Trash appears to trigger the update which is then 
carried out the next time pop3 checks for new mail.  Get Msgs forces 
the issue.  Maybe there is some other factor at work but I'm not seeing it.

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Re: SM Files Where Are They???

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David E. Ross wrote:

On 8/23/2014 9:19 AM, NO wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 8/19/2014 7:11 PM, SamuelS wrote:

On 19-Aug-14 21:05, Chris Ilias wrote:

On 2014-08-19 8:28 PM, NO wrote:

Chris Ilias wrote:

On 2014-08-19 8:41 AM, SamuelS wrote:

You were so helpful previously in terms of guiding me in moving files
from my c: drive to d: drive, now I find that that my 2nd profile may
not have been moved. Can someone advise how I can find that profile on
the c: drive so I can get it moved?

This page should help:
http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/profilefaq/#transferring


This profile is the one which is taking up over 30% of my drive space
currently...

That doesn't sound right. What makes you think it's taking up so much
space? How small is your HD?


I have made the new profile and located it in the new directory, now I
receive a message  SeaMonkey cannot use the profile Default1 It may
be in use, unavailable or damage. Please choose another profile or
create a new one.

This is the 3rd profile and still not able to access...

What is the next move?

Make sure SeaMonkey is closed when you copy the files over.


Hello Chris,

I re-sent the files to the new location and still cannot remove the
extra profiles or link to the moved files...

What have I done to prevent this?

TIAA... bo1953


Locate the file profiles.ini.  It should be in
C:\Users\xxx\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\profiles.ini, where
xxx is your Windows user name (NOT a SeaMonkey profile name).  That
file contains the pointers to your profiles.

In profiles.ini, you should see all profiles listed, with their names,
locations, and a flag that indicates whether the locations are complete
or relative to the location of profile.ini.  An example is:
[Profile0]
Name=SamuelS
IsRelative=0
Path=C:\myprofiles\SeaMonkey\Sam
Default=1
This means this is the first profile (numbered from 0), the profile is
named SamuelS, that the Path is complete, the profile is at
C:\myprofiles\SeaMonkey\Sam (no security hash in the name in the form
of uchx8jc7.Sam), and that this is your primary (default) profile.  (For
my own use, I did not use hashes to name the folders where I placed my
profiles since my profiles are hidden by placing them on a drive other
than C.)

If you new profiles are not indicated in profiles.ini, that is the cause
of your problem.  In a plain-text editor (e.g., Notepad, Wordpad, but
NOT Word), edit the file to add your new profiles and point to them.
Each profile has a unique {Profilen], where n is a number (e.g.,
[Profile1], [Profile2], [Profile3], etc).


David,

Looking at this today and I find that the IsRelative=0 for three (3)
accounts and three of them have the same Path.

Can I delete the ones I do not want or need or how to reset?

As well, how can change, safely, [Profile1] to be [Profile2], if this is
feasible?

TIA - SamuelS



Any such modification to profiles.ini or to the profile folders should
be done with SeaMonkey completely terminated.

Do you wish to remove some profiles that all point to the same Windows
folder?  Then, yes, edit profiles.ini to remove their entries.  If you
are removing ALL the profiles that point to the same Windows folder also
remove the folder to which the profiles.ini entries pointed.

If there are entries in profiles.ini after the removed entries, they
should indeed be renumbered so that the {Profilen] are sequential.

I suggest that you backup your entire system before starting this, just
in case you clobber something you should not have touched.  Once you get
experienced in this kind of process, such a special backup should no
longer be necessary.



Don't delete, rename.  Record what you did and then you can delete a 
couple of weeks later.

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Re: Seamonkey 2.26.1 Crashing

[A Williams]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] wrote:


Then I am guessing it's related to something else, maybe one of your
add-ons. Does it crash on any site in particular?


It's pruning time.

Jus' sayin'...



Dis thread is an argument for top posting, mon.

To the suggestion that updating Java would fix a Javascript problem: the 
only thing they have in common is the first four letters of the name.  I 
have deinstalled Java on my Windows machines, Javascript still works.

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Re: Bug 1043703 Composer issue submitted but....

[A Williams]

Eric wrote:

Does anyone remember the work around for:

Bug 430858 - Composer is unusable (can't type anything in the window etc)

this bug was submitted for a 1.9 version and 2.0 version of Seamonkey.

does anyone remember the work around?

I'm having the exact same issue with the latest build of Seamonkey, at
least until we get a new release.

Windows Vista

TIA

Eric


I had that a year or so ago.
Disable plugins.  One of mine needed updating and now everything is 
amazingly awesome again.  Ymmv!


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Re: Loss of Focus - News

[A Williams]

Ed Mullen wrote:

A Williams pounded out :

EE wrote:

Daniel wrote:

On 06/07/14 20:08, A Williams wrote:

I have a minor problem which appears to only affect the Linux
version of
2.26.x.

In the left-hand column I have the various Mail directories and then
the
News servers and their Newsgroups.

Assuming I want to look at this group.  I click on the
mozilla.support.seamonkey line, it is then highlighted and the
various
headers then appear in the main (right) pane.  So far so good.

If I now click on one of the headers in the right pane, the
mozilla.support.seamonkey line in the left pane is no longer
highlighted.
Where this gets *really* annoying is with other News servers where
messages expire after a while, the same happens when I am going
through
the groups doing the Click here to remove all expired articles
thing,
I do not necessarily know which Group I have just cleaned up.

Just to add to the fun, occasionally it works as it should/did.

??


I have a similar video problem, in that, when I have m.s.seamonkey
selected in my SeaMonkey account of the Accounts pane , if I then
select
something in the Threads pane, sometimes the m.s.seamonkey goes from
being black text on a light blue background to a white text on a light
blue background, i.e. inverted video.

If I then click in the Message pane, the highlighted text in the
Threads
pane might also go inverted.

I've just accepted I might have a video problem, but not significant
enough to worry about!!


Are you using different themes when the highlight works compared to when
it does not work?  If the tree element was not set up correctly in a
theme, that would explain it.



I'm a believer in If it works, don't fix it.  The last time I played
with anything like themes was somewhere around Netscape 6.0.


Err, I don't mean to sound harsh but, the relevance of you post
perplexes me.

If you haven't worked with this since an ancient and aborted version of
SM, why even post about it?




Sorry, what I meant was that I leave themes well alone.  Your question 
was whether I used different themes and that was my answer.
The way I tend to operate is to select a Newsgroup and then click Next 
at the top, a large thread of no interest gets bypassed by typing t.

This time the first Next was enough to cause the problem.
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Loss of Focus - News

[A Williams]

I have a minor problem which appears to only affect the Linux version of 
2.26.x.


In the left-hand column I have the various Mail directories and then the 
News servers and their Newsgroups.


Assuming I want to look at this group.  I click on the 
mozilla.support.seamonkey line, it is then highlighted and the various 
headers then appear in the main (right) pane.  So far so good.


If I now click on one of the headers in the right pane, the 
mozilla.support.seamonkey line in the left pane is no longer highlighted.
Where this gets *really* annoying is with other News servers where 
messages expire after a while, the same happens when I am going through 
the groups doing the Click here to remove all expired articles thing, 
I do not necessarily know which Group I have just cleaned up.


Just to add to the fun, occasionally it works as it should/did.

??
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Re: Loss of Focus - News

[A Williams]

EE wrote:

Daniel wrote:

On 06/07/14 20:08, A Williams wrote:

I have a minor problem which appears to only affect the Linux version of
2.26.x.

In the left-hand column I have the various Mail directories and then the
News servers and their Newsgroups.

Assuming I want to look at this group.  I click on the
mozilla.support.seamonkey line, it is then highlighted and the various
headers then appear in the main (right) pane.  So far so good.

If I now click on one of the headers in the right pane, the
mozilla.support.seamonkey line in the left pane is no longer
highlighted.
Where this gets *really* annoying is with other News servers where
messages expire after a while, the same happens when I am going through
the groups doing the Click here to remove all expired articles thing,
I do not necessarily know which Group I have just cleaned up.

Just to add to the fun, occasionally it works as it should/did.

??


I have a similar video problem, in that, when I have m.s.seamonkey
selected in my SeaMonkey account of the Accounts pane , if I then select
something in the Threads pane, sometimes the m.s.seamonkey goes from
being black text on a light blue background to a white text on a light
blue background, i.e. inverted video.

If I then click in the Message pane, the highlighted text in the Threads
pane might also go inverted.

I've just accepted I might have a video problem, but not significant
enough to worry about!!


Are you using different themes when the highlight works compared to when
it does not work?  If the tree element was not set up correctly in a
theme, that would explain it.



I'm a believer in If it works, don't fix it.  The last time I played 
with anything like themes was somewhere around Netscape 6.0.

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Re: Large Files In Profile

[A Williams]

NoOp wrote:

On 06/20/2014 08:00 AM, Robert Kaiser wrote:

Rob schrieb:

The reason why some of the .sqlite files are so darn large is partly
the silly pre-allocation that is done on them.


Silly is in the eye of the beholder. The preallocation makes write
access to the DB much faster. It's a tradeoff. The vast majority of
people have local profiles on their computer and their disk space is
huge and cheap, while their time probably isn't.

KaiRo



Right... 41.8Mib worth - even with prefetch off?

43810816 Jun 12 10:45 netpredictions.sqlite

And of course there is the issue of thinking that you've cleared all of
your private data (Tools|Clear Private Data) and find that you can just
open netpredictions and find hak5.org  my last visit was:
$ date --date='@1399332866.664296'
Mon May  5 16:34:26 PDT 2014

Or no way to effectively clear site preferences:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=713848
Add Site Preferences option to Clear Private Data (clear stored domain
settings)




Well, in my case the option was on and the file something like 430MB, 
big enough to be annoying when I take backups.  I have migrated this 
profile to a couple of other machines so a cleanup is in my immediate 
future.

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Re: SeaMonkey futures...

[A Williams]

Ray_Net wrote:

Ant wrote, On 14/05/2014 10:50:

On 5/13/2014 11:03 AM PT, A Williams typed:


But will this be forever? Will SM always be using the same design
forever? :P

I certainly hope not. I'm happy with the way things are now, but
forever is a long time. Circumstances do change, and I hope that
when
they change enough to require a new design, the dev team will be
able to
do the necessary modifications.

Any project that is not willing to adjust to new circumstances is
already dead. It just hasn't noticed it yet.


But they have no time and no money to modify drastically the product.


Didn't the original design come from Netscape Communicator days as the
suite product? My old memory is failing me. I have been using it since
then IIRC. I don't think Netscape Navigator was a suite (just a web
browser)?


http://sillydog.org/narchive/ still has the software, and the story.


ftp://ftp.netscape.com/pub/ still lives!

and you can install it and work with ? :-)


I posted that sillydog link because I found the version history comments 
to be interesting, not because I thought it would be a good idea to 
actually install that stuff.
Then again, it reminded me of the era when the Netscape Suite had a 
working Calendar along with other useful programs.
I do some programming, but not on PCs and not in C.  Me getting involved 
in that side of things would be a recipe for disaster.


rantI just can't get my head around a situation where the main 
language around has so many traps for the unwary (or wary) so that so 
much software is crawling with security holes.  There were languages in 
development in the 70's which tried to make things safer, not all of 
them were academic exercises unsuitable for the real world./rant

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Re: SeaMonkey futures...

[A Williams]

Ant wrote:

On 5/11/2014 11:09 PM PT, Ray_Net typed:


But will this be forever? Will SM always be using the same design
forever? :P

I certainly hope not. I'm happy with the way things are now, but
forever is a long time. Circumstances do change, and I hope that when
they change enough to require a new design, the dev team will be able to
do the necessary modifications.

Any project that is not willing to adjust to new circumstances is
already dead. It just hasn't noticed it yet.


But they have no time and no money to modify drastically the product.


Didn't the original design come from Netscape Communicator days as the
suite product? My old memory is failing me. I have been using it since
then IIRC. I don't think Netscape Navigator was a suite (just a web
browser)?


http://sillydog.org/narchive/ still has the software, and the story.
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Videos - high processor usage

[A Williams]

This is about Seamonkey 2.26 (possibly a beta), 64-Bit version running 
under Linux.  AMD X2.  Flash is *not* installed.


Processor usage when watching YouTube videos is around 100%, sometimes 
causing the video to cut out for a second.  Processor usage on the same 
video downloaded as mp4 is typically around 25% although it can peak at 
around 40% on one processor.  This is using Kaffeine as a player.


This problem is not limited to YouTube, it is not limited to any recent 
Seamonkey version although I am noticing it more now that videos are 
routinely made available in html5 rather than just Flash.


I suppose there is nothing which can really be done here except to 
download videos which cause problems - if possible - and use kaffeine.

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Re: SeaMonkey futures...

[A Williams]

Robert wrote:


I've recently upgraded to FireFox v29, and I do not like the new
dumbed-down user interface.

I've looked at the screenshots of SeaMonkey and they look like FireFox used
to look.

Before I go through the motions of downloading, installing, and configuring
SeaMonkey are my primary browser I have one question:

Will FireFox 29's new look will find its way into SeaMonkey, or will
SeaMonkey continue to allow its users to customize the UI?

Thanks for any replies.



This question has been asked here a few times over the last few months. 
 The answer has always been no.

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Re: SeaMonkey futures...

[A Williams]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 5/10/2014 8:26 AM, A Williams wrote:

Robert wrote:


I've recently upgraded to FireFox v29, and I do not like the new
dumbed-down user interface.

I've looked at the screenshots of SeaMonkey and they look like FireFox used
to look.

Before I go through the motions of downloading, installing, and configuring
SeaMonkey are my primary browser I have one question:

Will FireFox 29's new look will find its way into SeaMonkey, or will
SeaMonkey continue to allow its users to customize the UI?

Thanks for any replies.



This question has been asked here a few times over the last few months.
   The answer has always been no.



And the answer to that answer has always been Hooray!!



It would be like a blunt pencil.  Pointless.
I think Firefox wants one look-and-feel for all systems - phone, tablet, 
PC.  Seamonkey simply does not make sense on a phone or tablet.

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Re: Seem To Have Lost Everything...???

[A Williams]

Daniel wrote:

On 06/05/14 21:58, A Williams wrote:

Daniel wrote:

On 06/05/14 00:19, SamuelS wrote:

Hello all - just as I was trying to perform MozBackUp on my Lenovo T61
the system froze and I waited for 10 minutes or so before physically
shutting down the machine.

Upon re-boot I found that a 'new' SeaMonkey window appeared without any
settings or history or profiles available.

I wanted to panic, but no I decided to remain calm and collected as it
appeared that I lost up to 5% of my emails, 100% of my contacts,
100% of
my bookmarks, 100% of my passwords, and just about everything else
stored in SM 2.26.

I know there must be more questions and facts which are left out here,
please let me know what you need in order to assist.

Any insight and assistance is greatly appreciated in figuring out if in
fact it is all lost.

TIA - SamuelS


Alternatively to Rob's advice, have a look at Tools-Switch Profiles. Do
you see more profiles listed there then you would expect?? If so, select
each in turn to see if it's your missing profile!!



The time/date the directory was last updated could be considered a clue.


Sorry, where would you see the time/date the directory was last
updated, doing it my way??


Backing off one step: Backups are good.  Especially if they are readable.


As always, yes!



Oops, - I was thinking the best way was to look at the various profile 
directories under %appdata%\mozilla\seamonkey and did not check your 
posting closely enough.

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Re: Seem To Have Lost Everything...???

[A Williams]

Daniel wrote:

On 06/05/14 00:19, SamuelS wrote:

Hello all - just as I was trying to perform MozBackUp on my Lenovo T61
the system froze and I waited for 10 minutes or so before physically
shutting down the machine.

Upon re-boot I found that a 'new' SeaMonkey window appeared without any
settings or history or profiles available.

I wanted to panic, but no I decided to remain calm and collected as it
appeared that I lost up to 5% of my emails, 100% of my contacts, 100% of
my bookmarks, 100% of my passwords, and just about everything else
stored in SM 2.26.

I know there must be more questions and facts which are left out here,
please let me know what you need in order to assist.

Any insight and assistance is greatly appreciated in figuring out if in
fact it is all lost.

TIA - SamuelS


Alternatively to Rob's advice, have a look at Tools-Switch Profiles. Do
you see more profiles listed there then you would expect?? If so, select
each in turn to see if it's your missing profile!!



The time/date the directory was last updated could be considered a clue.
Backing off one step: Backups are good.  Especially if they are readable.
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Re: SM. issues?

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bryan roache wrote:

Hi, every time I start Sm, it begins to check for emails/updates as it
normally does, but then,  it will suddenly be rendered unusable. I do
not seem to have this issue, in either FF, OR Tb.
This issue is stopping  me from using Sea monkey for both browsing, and
sending emails to people. it is also  making my  screen reader,
misbehave because of the problems affecting Sea monkey. Does anyone have
the same issue? How did you fix this? I have Sm v. 2.3.4 on my pen
drive.  I cant install  Sm back on my system  with these issues mucking
up my system. Pleas, can any one help me fix this?



Disable addons and try again.
That was what did it for me some time last year.  One of my addons was 
causing the problem, updating it fixed it that time.

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Re: Seamonkey 2.25 is now up on Ubuntuzilla

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WaltS48 wrote:

On 03/23/2014 04:48 PM, WaltS wrote:

On 03/23/2014 02:39 PM, Cruz, Jaime wrote:

Found it this morning.  Installed it and so far it's working quite well.
  Thanks!




Neither Firefox, Thunderbird or SeaMonkey are in openSUSE 13.1 update
repository. They are in OBS - Mozilla repository, but I don't swing that
way.




Finally Thunderbird 24.4.0 and SeaMonkey 2.25 are available for openSUSE
13.1! ROFLMAO!

An update that fixes 16 vulnerabilities is now available.

Description:

Mozilla Thunderbird was updated to 24.4.0. Mozilla
SeaMonkey was updated to 2.25.

[[security-announce] openSUSE-SU-2014:0584-1: important:
MozillaThunderbi](http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-security-announce/2014-04/msg00016.html)


Note to openSUSE. SeaMonkey 2.26 is scheduled for release on May 1



I have just installed 2.26 from the Mozilla repository.  It is so new 
that the Release Notes on 
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.26/ are for 2.24 
Beta 2.

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Re: I love SeaMonkey - please keep it the same!

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nick...@gmail.com wrote:

I felt compelled to write this after the seeing the disaster that Firefox is 
turning into with that new Australis interface.

SeaMonkey developers, you are doing an amazing job. I think the interface is 
excellent, logical and *just works*, especially for desktop.
Please don't feel any need to ruin it in the same way that Firefox has been 
ruined with the dumbed-down Chrome wannabe interface!

If you feel the same, please show your support for SeaMonkey devs. :)



The devolpers were asked a while back if they had plans along these 
lines.  Short answer: No.


My understanding is that the logic behind Australis is to present the 
same interface for all devices, Phone, Tablet, PC.  That idea worked 
really well for Microsoft with Windows 8.
Seamonkey is never going to run on a Tablet or Phone so the developers 
have no need to waste resources changing things.

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Re: can't copy and paste images

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tfg...@pacbell.net wrote:

I suddenly cannot copy an image and paste into a compose message



What format message are you composing?
I hardly ever send pictures except as attachments but suspect you need 
to be writing html and are writing txt instead.

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Re: Hitches with 2.24 update

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Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 2/6/2014 11:13 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Partway through the update, Norton Internet Security detected
Suspicious.Cloud.7.F and removed it to quarantine. As soon as this
happened, SeaMonkey's check of add-ins for compatibility stalled. After
five minutes of spinning, I clicked Cancel and the installer
terminated.

The file that was flagged by NIS was
C:\Program Files(x86)\SeaMonkey\freebl3.dll
The file size is 299,520 bytes.
The Details panel from Windows Explorer properties reports:
File description: NSS freebl Library
Type: Application extension
File version: 3.15.4.0
Product name: Network Security Services
Product version: 3.15.4 Basic ECC
Copyright:
Size: 292 KB
Date modified: 2/7/2014 1:56 AM
Language: English (United States)
Original filename: freebl3.dll

I launched SeaMonkey, which reported its version as 2.24, but did not
automatically take me to the release notes (well, actually, it tried,
but I just got the busy cursor; it never displayed the page). In fact, I
was unable to browse to any web page, which means I cannot download the
installer and reinstall manually.

I checked my add-ons, and found the Extensions were intact, but the
Plugins panel was blank (about 10 add-ons had vanished). When I asked
SM to check compatibility, I got the same result as with the browser --
unable to browse to any page, including the plugin check.

I am unable to download mail (Ctrl-D produces no response).

I will download the full installer on another computer, move it here,
uninstall and reinstall and see if that helps.


Get rid of Norton!  This is a recurring problem.

I never have this problem with AVG AntiVirus Free Edition 2014.  On a
manual scan, I never have this problem with Malwarebytes.


Reinstallation as described solved the problem. I can now browse and
send/receive email, and my add-ons have reappeared and seem to be
working normally. Only annoyance is that I had to install Modern theme,
restart, disable it in favor of Default theme, which I prefer, restart.

I reported the issue in case others face it, don't know what to do. NG
still worked even when everything else didn't.

Wish the devs could find a way to add their files to Norton's whitelist
I'm assuming that freebl3.dll file was one of ours, NIS had a false
positive -- please confirm???



There have been discussions on this in this Newsgroup for years now, the 
developers have tried various strategies with Norton but nothing helps.

No other Virus Scanner has this problem.
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Re: Seamonkey Stays Active Although Closed

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goodwin wrote:

On 01/13/2014 05:50 PM, MR ZenWiz wrote:

On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 5:43 PM, goodwin jeff.g.gr...@att.net wrote:

On 01/13/2014 10:16 AM, MR ZenWiz wrote:

I just wrote a simple shell script that clobbers whichever one is
giving me trouble:

#!/bin/bash

# A shell script to kill that annoying runaway
seamonkey/firefox/npviewer that won't die

case `basename $0` in
seakill) cmd=seamonkey;;
foxkill) cmd=firefox;;
npvkill) cmd=npviewer;;
*) echo Unrecognized command.; exit 1;;
esac

/usr/bin/pkill -9 $cmd
/bin/ps -fC $cmd



what the heck is npviewer and how did it get into this thread?



Collateral damage.  After I found the problem with SeaMonkey, it began
to occur occasioinally in Firefox, then later with npviewer, which is
part of the Adobe flash player systems that used to cause hangs,
similar to these (GIYF).  I haven't needed npvkill in about two years,
but why remove it if it may ever cause problems again?



Maybe so but hardly on point here - though, thinking about it, maybe I'm
all wet - /anything/ would be on point since it seems to have turned
into a discussion of .lock files - I have no idea where the original
poster stands.

Nice script, good exercise, but better to discover what the cause
actually is.



Yes - that is why I tried to drag the thread back On Topic, but it seems 
clear that no-one knows what is causing this or even how to find out 
what Seamonkey is silently doing.
I have been away and have not looked at Bugzilla for this, there should 
be a new level coming soon and maybe this has been fixed.

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Re: Remove cookies- no lnger in my cookie manager list

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Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Mort wrote:


I have a recent cookie problem, and will be grateful for any help.
I'm running Windows XP SP3 Pro, and Windows 7 Pro.


Presumably on two different machines with two different SM installations?


I have my setting to accept all cookies. Until a few weeks ago, when
I clicked on the cookie manager, a list of on-board cookies
appeared,and I could then delete as I wished. Now, the cookie
manager list is blank. The only change that I made was to upgrade to
SM 2.23.

Is there any way to make those on-board cookies appear in my cookie
manager, so that I could delete the undesirable ones?


If the list is blank, what reason do you have to think they are present?



You are looking at this the wrong way.
The Cookie Manager behaves the same way as the Password Manager and 
there was a big discussion here on the somewhat broken functionality a 
couple of months ago.  I can't remember which Seamonkey level first 
changed things but I think it was the one immediately after the level 
which was skipped after that server crash.


@Mort - you upgraded recently from an older level?  older in this case 
means a level several months old.


In order to look at your cookies you need to:
- Open the Cookie Manager (or Password Manager etc - it makes no 
difference).  It calls itself the Data Manager.

- Look for the Data Manager - left, near the top.
- Change the All data types button immediately below that text to 
Cookies only.


Thanks for asking the question - I only worked out how things now work 
when I started answering the question ;-)

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Re: Seamonkey Stays Active Although Closed

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Chuck wrote:

I am having a problem with Seamonkey clearing out of memory after closing.
I have a CPU monitor and can see it using 100% for over 2 minutes after
closing.
I cannot restart it without going to Task Manager and killing it during
those 2+ minutes.
Any suggestions?
Thanks,
Chuck


Leaving the entire theoretical discussion of semaphores and file-rights 
aside, I have a similar problem on this Linux machine since the upgrade 
to 2.23.
It is only similar because the processor-load normally stays fairly 
low before dropping off to approximately zero, but Seamonkey is still 
active.  I can see this because active programs are automatically 
restarted the next time I reboot and this frequently happens here.
The /home partition where I have my data has 32G free, this 64bit system 
has 8GB of memory (I needed that occasionally for another application) 
so memory is not a problem, oh - this is the 64bit version of Seamonkey.


Looks like a bug in 2.23 to me.  Is there some way to see what it is doing?
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Re: Seamonkey Stays Active Although Closed

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Mike C wrote:

Mike C wrote:

Chuck wrote:

I am having a problem with Seamonkey clearing out of memory after
closing.
I have a CPU monitor and can see it using 100% for over 2 minutes after
closing.
I cannot restart it without going to Task Manager and killing it during
those 2+ minutes.
Any suggestions?
Thanks,
Chuck

 From a previous post: (6/14/2013)

It may be that SeaMonkey didn't shut down properly on some
occasion. If that happens, a file called 'parent.lock' is created,
which prevents another instance of SeaMonkey from running.

With SeaMonkey closed, locate the SeaMonkey 1.x profile, you should
find it here:

C:\Documents  Settings\Your Windows User Name\Application
Data\Mozilla\Profiles\default\.slt

Where '' is a random eight-character string.

The file 'parent.lock', if present, should be in the folder
'.slt', if it is delete it. You should then find that you
will no longer get the message that SeaMonkey is still running and
you should be able to run SeaMonkey 2.7. Note that SeaMonkey 2.8 is
now available, so I would suggest installing that, rather than
v2.7.

This fixed it for me back then.

Mike C

Ignore where SM 2.7 and SM 2.8 is mentioned on my previous post.


What about the locate the SeaMonkey 1.x profile?

I'm running Linux on this machine and have a foreign-language Windows 
anyway so names may be slightly off, but . . .
Typing %appdata% (without those double-quotes) into the run program 
field starts the data-manager in the Application Data directory 
mentioned above.  This works under XP and Win7, no idea about other 
versions.
Having said that, I have never found it necessary to delete that .lock 
file but Mike C obviously has.

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Re: Seamonkey Stays Active Although Closed

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Chuck wrote:

I am having a problem with Seamonkey clearing out of memory after closing.
I have a CPU monitor and can see it using 100% for over 2 minutes after
closing.
I cannot restart it without going to Task Manager and killing it during
those 2+ minutes.
Any suggestions?
Thanks,
Chuck


I have this problem sometimes under Linux, although in my case it simply 
uses 100% forever until I kill it or shut the system down.

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