Re: Any updates on when we might start seeing Seamonkey updates?

2015-06-12 Thread Jochen Roderburg
On 2015-06-12, WaltS48 thalion...@evomeraim.com wrote:
 On 06/11/2015 07:12 PM, Cruz, Jaime wrote:
 We're falling farther and farther behind both Firefox AND Thunderbird
 now...


 Thunderbird 38.0.1 was release today. Updates throttled a bit AIUI, but 
 you can do Help  About Thunderbird and update, if you aren't using a 
 Linux distributions build.


Hmm, is this the version with integrated calendar now ?

That would be of interest to Seamonkey, too, but might also mean more work
of adaptation for the Seamonkey crew.  ;-)

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Re: Any updates on when we might start seeing Seamonkey updates?

2015-06-12 Thread Jochen Roderburg
On 2015-06-12, Jochen Roderburg roderb...@t-online.de wrote:
 On 2015-06-12, WaltS48 thalion...@evomeraim.com wrote:

 Thunderbird 38.0.1 was release today. Updates throttled a bit AIUI, but 
 you can do Help  About Thunderbird and update, if you aren't using a 
 Linux distributions build.


 Hmm, is this the version with integrated calendar now ?

 That would be of interest to Seamonkey, too, but might also mean more work
 of adaptation for the Seamonkey crew.  ;-)


I have downloaded now a Windows and a Linux version and see that the
calendar *is* included.
To be precise, it is not really integrated, a fitting version of the wellknown
Lightning extension is pre-packaged in the installation files.
Not sure what this means for the Seamonkey adaptation.  ;-)

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Re: SM 2.10 under Linux does not find its shared libraries

2012-06-13 Thread Jochen Roderburg
On 2012-06-12, Hartmut Figge h.fi...@gmx.de wrote:
 Jochen Roderburg:

Problem solved now, see parallel thread titled XPCOMGlueLoad error.   :-)

 The next one will come. Surely. :)

 Hart 'dr' mut

Most certainly.
New versions, new features, new bugs.
Same procedure as every year.
Source of endless fun.  ;-)

CU, Jochen

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Re: XPCOMGlueLoad error

2012-06-12 Thread Jochen Roderburg
On 2012-06-12, Jens Hatlak j...@junetz.de wrote:
 Peter Nieman wrote:
 Updated to 2.10 and Seamonkey failed to start. Error message:

 XPCOMGlueLoad error for file /usr/local/seamonkey-2.0/libxpcom.so:
 libxul.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
 Couldn't load XPCOM.

 Sounds like the following, which will be fixed in SM 2.10.1:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=762621

 HTH

 Jens


Yes, yes, even if it sounds very strange, that is now finally the real
solution of this problem.

I had found the same thing myself over the day independent of this new
Bugzilla entry and just wanted to report my findings here and somewhere on
Bugzilla.;-)

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Re: SM 2.10 under Linux does not find its shared libraries

2012-06-12 Thread Jochen Roderburg

Problem solved now, see parallel thread titled XPCOMGlueLoad error.   :-)

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Re: SM 2.10 under Linux does not find its shared libraries

2012-06-11 Thread Jochen Roderburg
On 2012-06-10, Hartmut Figge h.fi...@gmx.de wrote:
 Hartmut Figge:

 [To Jochen Roderburg]
What do you get when issuing this command?

hafi@i5_64 ~ $ ls /usr1/seamonkey210/ | egrep '(seam|libxp)'
libxpcom.so
seamonkey
seamonkey-bin

 By the way, it would be much easier for me in the related German NG
 de.comm.software.mozilla.misc ;)

 Hartmut

Interessant.   ;-)

Did not know that one.
I found it now under Google Groups.
Is this a normal Usenet group?

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Re: SM 2.10 under Linux does not find its shared libraries

2012-06-11 Thread Jochen Roderburg
On 2012-06-10, Hartmut Figge h.fi...@gmx.de wrote:
 Jochen Roderburg:

I have installed SM in /usr1/seamonkey210 and start with
/usr1/seamonkey210/seamonkey

XPCOMGlueLoad error for file /usr1/seamonkey210/libxpcom.so:
libxul.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
Couldn't load XPCOM.

 Normally extracting the .tar.bz2 in /usr1/seamonkey210 would create the
 subdirectory seamonkey with the content of the .tar.bz2 and SM would be
 started with /usr1/seamonkey210/seamonkey/seamonkey.

 But it is possible to avoid this subdirectory. I have now created
 /usr1/seamonkey210 and copied the content of my existing installation of
r SM 2.10 from ~/seam/release/2.10/seamonkey to /usr1/seamonkey210.

 Calling SM from an xterm gives

 hafi@i5_64 ~ $ /usr1/seamonkey210/seamonkey
 Document http://www.heise.de/newsticker/ loaded successfully
 NOTE: child process received `Goodbye', closing down

 SM has started normally. Then i loaded heise und then quit SM with ^q. I
 could see no problems. What do you get when issuing this command?


Perhaps you have the problematic Mozilla libraries (also) somewhere in your
standard library load path.  I don't, I have them only in the various
Mozilla product directories.

The old Mozilla startup scripts used to define all sorts of Library-Path
environment variables pointing to the install directory, so the problem had
not much chance to come up then.

The scripts had OTOH another small glitch which I have patched for long
times here.  They silently assumed that the final program directory had the
same name as the program:  When the product was installed in somepath/somedir
they tried to load the actiual program binary under the name
somepath/somedir/somedir-bin.

So I was not unhappy that they (starting with FF a while ago and now with
TB/SM) got rid of these scripts, but something seems to be not correct in the 
actual implementation of the new startup programs in TB and SM.

It is, btw, not so that the install directory is not used at all for
the loading of dynamic libraries. Strace shows that a number of them are
loaded correctly, only a few produce errors.

Jochen Roderburg

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Re: SM 2.10 under Linux does not find its shared libraries

2012-06-11 Thread Jochen Roderburg
On 2012-06-10, Jens Hatlak j...@junetz.de wrote:
 Jochen Roderburg wrote:
 Now that SM 2.10 has adopted the firefox startup style under Linux, it does
 not find its own shared libraries any longer without additional help.

 I have no real solution either (you already discovered the 
 LD_LIBRARY_PATH workaround), but FYI the main bug for this is
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=723487.

 Greetings,

 Jens


Thanks for the additional pointer.

It is always a big challenge to find something in those Bugzillas.  ;-)

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Re: XPCOMGlueLoad error

2012-06-11 Thread Jochen Roderburg
On 2012-06-11, Peter Nieman peter@domain.invalid wrote:
 On 11/06/12 01:49, NoOp wrote:
 Looks like there is some added info in today's SM 2.10 under Linux does
 not find its shared libraries

 Yes. Thanks for pointing it out to me.

 Strange that nobody seems to know what caused bug 723487...

 p.n.

And this bug 723487 is actually about Firefox where the new startup programs
already work correct for a while. And I see also nothing there what could help
the TB/SM people to get rid of their variant of the same problem.

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Re: SM 2.10 under Linux does not find its shared libraries

2012-06-11 Thread Jochen Roderburg
On 2012-06-11, Hartmut Figge h.fi...@gmx.de wrote:
 Jochen Roderburg:
On 2012-06-10, Hartmut Figge h.fi...@gmx.de wrote:

 By the way, it would be much easier for me in the related German NG
 de.comm.software.mozilla.misc ;)

Interessant.   ;-)

:-D

Did not know that one.
I found it now under Google Groups.
Is this a normal Usenet group?

 Yes. There are .misc, .browser, .mailnews and and .nightly-builds.

 Hartmut

Thanks, I think I will have found them somewhere before the next problem
arrives.   ;-)

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SM 2.10 under Linux does not find its shared libraries

2012-06-10 Thread Jochen Roderburg
Now that SM 2.10 has adopted the firefox startup style under Linux, it does
not find its own shared libraries any longer without additional help.

Relevant entry from the 2.10 changes files:
The Linux/Unix wrapper shell script has been removed (bug 722262).

The Bugzilla discussion for bug 722262 mentions such problems
and states also that everything is solved.

But what happens now is:

I have installed SM in /usr1/seamonkey210 and start with
/usr1/seamonkey210/seamonkey

XPCOMGlueLoad error for file /usr1/seamonkey210/libxpcom.so:
libxul.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
Couldn't load XPCOM.

An strace shows that is is looking for libxul.so in /lib and /usr/lib.

Of course it helps then starting it with
LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr1/seamonkey210 /usr1/seamonkey210/seamonkey

The corresponding new Thunderbird 13.0 has the same problem
whereas it works already fine for some recent Firefox versions.

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Re: Newsgroup no longer in Google Groups?

2012-01-26 Thread Jochen Roderburg
On 2012-01-24, Hartmut Figge h.fi...@gmx.de wrote:
 Jochen Roderburg:

Anybody knows why this seamonkey newsgroup is no longer available via Google
groups?
 [...]
That's a pity because I found it always very convenient to browse through
the discussions there.

 I do not like this...

Chacun à son goût ...  ;-)


I used the direct NNTP access only when I wanted to post something
myself (like this message ;-)

 ...but i just discovered, that this NG is available on news.gmane.org
 under the name gmane.comp.mozilla.seamonkey.user. Available not only
 over NNTP.

 http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.mozilla.seamonkey.user

 Hartmut

Interesting, that would be another possibility.
It is not mentioned on the seamonkey website.  ;-)

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Newsgroup no longer in Google Groups?

2012-01-22 Thread Jochen Roderburg
Anybody knows why this seamonkey newsgroup is no longer available via Google
groups? They say:

The group named mozilla.support.seamonkey has been removed because it
violated Google's Terms Of Service. 

No more explanations.  :-(

That's a pity because I found it always very convenient to browse through
the discussions there.  I used the direct NNTP access only when I wanted to
post something myself (like this message  ;-)

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Re: Newsgroup no longer in Google Groups?

2012-01-22 Thread Jochen Roderburg
On 2012-01-22, Daniel d...@albury.nospam.net.au wrote:
 Jochen Roderburg wrote:
 Anybody knows why this seamonkey newsgroup is no longer available via Google
 groups? They say:

 The group named mozilla.support.seamonkey has been removed because it
 violated Google's Terms Of Service.

 mozilla.support.seamonkey is showing up for me if I search on 
 Groups-Google.

 WFM


Hmm, I start on Google Groups main page
http://groups.google.com/

When I enter mozilla.support.seamonkey in Search Groups
I get what I think is a search in old archived articles.

When I enter mozilla.support.seamonkey in Search for a Group
I get  No groups match mozilla.support.seamonkey.

When I go direct to the former URL of the group
http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.seamonkey
I get what I reported:

Cannot find mozilla.support.seamonkey   
The group named mozilla.support.seamonkey has been removed because it
violated Google's Terms Of Service. 

JR
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Re: Newsgroup no longer in Google Groups?

2012-01-22 Thread Jochen Roderburg
On 2012-01-22, Hartmut Figge h.fi...@gmx.de wrote:
 Jay Garcia:
On 22.01.2012 04:58, Jochen Roderburg wrote:

 Cannot find mozilla.support.seamonkey   
 The group named mozilla.support.seamonkey has been removed because it
 violated Google's Terms Of Service. 

No idea what is up with this. I get:

No groups match mozilla.support.seamonkey.
Suggestions:

 Click on mozilla.support.seamonkey in the second line of an answer.
 http://groups.google.com/groups/search?q=mozilla.support.seamonkeyqt_s=Search

 Hartmut

As I wrote already, this brings up search results from the (obviously still
existing) group archive, but not the Google group itself.
And when you click on any of the search results, you are back to square one:
Cannot find mozilla.support.seamonkey

Isn't there some administrator who maintains the newsgroup on the mozilla
server and the connection to the (lost) Google group and is more informed
about what Google did not like about the group and could perhaps bring it
back to life?

JR
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Re: SM 2.5 - pictures not reloaded from cache

2011-12-26 Thread Jochen Roderburg
On 2011-12-01, Jochen Roderburg roderb...@uni-koeln.de wrote:
 The new SeaMonkey 2.5 (on Linux) shows a strange behaviour on a few websites
 with pictures.

 When I first load such a page, everything is nornmal, the thumbnails are
 shown and when I click on them I get the full picture.
 Now, when I return to the browser tab one or two days later, the thumbnails
 are no longer shown, only empty frames are there and when I click on them I
 get a page with only a text line containing the URL.

FWIW, this strange behaviour has disappeared again in the 2.6 series (betas and
finals). Hope it stays that way.

I am still curious what might have caused this, but don't know how to find
any info, as there seems to be no complete list of changes anywhere.
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SM 2.5 - pictures not reloaded from cache

2011-12-01 Thread Jochen Roderburg
The new SeaMonkey 2.5 (on Linux) shows a strange behaviour on a few websites
with pictures.  Not sure, if it is relevant, but what they seem to have in
common is that the picture thumbnails on the page are not separate files
from the server, but scaled-down versions of the full-size files to which
they link.

When I first load such a page, everything is nornmal, the thumbnails are
shown and when I click on them I get the full picture.
Now, when I return to the browser tab one or two days later, the thumbnails
are no longer shown, only empty frames are there and when I click on them I
get a page with only a text line containing the URL.

The pictures are unchanged on the server, and I verified with about:cache
that they are also all in the local disk cache. So they should be loaded
from the cache, but this does not seem to work for unknown reasons.
With LiveHTTPHeaders I can see that SM does make server requests for the
files which are correctly answered with 304 Not Modified.
A simple page reload does also not help, only a full reload brings the
page back to normal (for a while ;-).

All this does not happen with earlier SeaMonkey versions nor with Firefox.

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Re: No Accept-Charset in current betas

2011-10-20 Thread Jochen Roderburg
On 2011-10-19, Jens Hatlak j...@junetz.de wrote:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=572652


I have read this now and see a lot discussion about what has to changed to
get rid of the Accept-Charset header, but not much about why they did this.

Only the person who requested the change had some reasons, mainly:
It is no longer needed, because every browser understands utf-8 nowadays.
And a funny compatibilty argument: Internet Explorer does not send this
header so there is no need for Mozilla to send it. 
OTOH, nothing about losing compatibility with their own older releases.

I don't know if all web sites/applications follow the same logic and
automatically use utf-8 when they get no other information, at least
the one that I mentioned (Horde/IMP webmail) does not do this and
needs an individual little hack for Mozilla browsers now.   :-(

Regards,
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No Accept-Charset in current betas

2011-10-19 Thread Jochen Roderburg
The current beta versions of our Mozilla applications (Firefox 8 / Seamonkey
2.5) do not send the HTTP Accept-Charset header any longer.
This confuses e.g. our Webmail system (Horde/IMP) which uses this header (if
available) to determine if the browser can handle UTF-8.

Does anybody know if there is a rationale behind this change
or is this perhaps just a plain bug?

Jochen Roderburg
RRZK
University of Cologne
Robert-Koch-Str. 10Tel.:   +49-221/478-7024
D-50931 Koeln  E-Mail: roderb...@uni-koeln.de
Germany
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Re: No Accept-Charset in current betas

2011-10-19 Thread Jochen Roderburg
On 2011-10-19, Jens Hatlak j...@junetz.de wrote:
 Jochen Roderburg wrote:
 The current beta versions of our Mozilla applications (Firefox 8 / Seamonkey
 2.5) do not send the HTTP Accept-Charset header any longer.
 This confuses e.g. our Webmail system (Horde/IMP) which uses this header (if
 available) to determine if the browser can handle UTF-8.

 Does anybody know if there is a rationale behind this change
 or is this perhaps just a plain bug?

 AFAICS it was removed because it allows fingerprinting, and is not 
 supported by IE (or all other browsers?). Please note that I did nothing 
 more than read the initial comment of the following bug; please have a 
 read yourself for more information. Please also note that this was a 
 platform change, i.e. nothing was changed for SM in particular but all 
 Gecko-based applications.

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=572652


Thanks for the pointer, I'll have a look at it.

Strange, that I didn't find this by searching for Accept-Charset in
Bugzilla.

J.Roderburg
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Re: Seamonkey as the default browser

2010-03-09 Thread Jochen Roderburg
On 2010-03-09, Richard Lee Holbert rlhinte...@charter.net wrote:
 yes, it does have this and I unchecked it.
 But next time it comes up, it is still checked.

 I will do the about:config and see

Now this is really strange now.

Could there be something on your system that prevents storing the
preferences ?
Can you permanently set other preferences?

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Re: Seamonkey browser brings up wrong email program

2010-03-09 Thread Jochen Roderburg
On 2010-03-08, Roger Fink f...@manana.org wrote:

 Hello, and thanks for that information. I established the new string in
 about:config by copying in your data and typing in true, and I also
 reestablished the mailto open command in Folder Options/File Types in
 Windows (Win2000), which I had previously deleted in trying to solve this.
 However, Seamonkey still continues to open only its own email client.

Maybe you did this not correctly. The parameter is not a string parameter
with the string true as value, it is a boolean parameter with the
boolean value true, like all the other protocol-handler entries.

In the about:config windows it should look like:

network.protocol-handler.external.mailto   user set   boolean   true

You can also compare this with Firefox where it is set by default in this
way.

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Re: Seamonkey as the default browser

2010-03-08 Thread Jochen Roderburg
On 2010-03-08, Richard Lee Holbert rlhinte...@charter.net wrote:
 I have checked every box I can think of
 and yet SeaMonkey keeps asking me if I wish it to be the default browser.
 How can I make it NOT do this ?

Does the dialog box in your SeaMonkey which asks this not have the check
box

Always perform this check when starting SeaMonkey

which you should uncheck?   ;-)


The corresponding internal (about:config) parameter is:

shell.checkDefaultClient   false


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Re: Seamonkey browser brings up wrong email program

2010-03-08 Thread Jochen Roderburg
On 2010-03-08, Roger Fink f...@manana.org wrote:

 I realize the difference, but certainly there must be some way, using
 about:config or some other feature, to get it to invoke the right email
 program. Some people may want to use OE, which is on a Windows computer by
 default, rather than pro-actively installed like Thunderbird.


The about:config parameter you want is

network.protocol-handler.external.mailto  set to  true

You must create this parameter yourself, it is not there by default.
The theory seems to be: why use an external mail program when we
have a built-in one in our suite?   ;-)

Regards, J. Roderburg

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Re: SM2 missing menubar on restored windows

2010-01-18 Thread Jochen Roderburg
On 2010-01-17, Hartmut Figge h.fi...@gmx.de wrote:

 Well, i am writing this because you could look into MonkeyMenu,
 examine what's going wrong, fix it and offer a version .j1 for those,
 who like this extension. :)

 Hartmut

Well, I fear, that goes beyond my capabilities now.   ;-)

And, as I mentioned, I was also not really interested in most of the features
of this extension, only in the Clear URL bar function.

With a new research in the net now I have found another maintained extension
for this purpose, Neo Diggler (a name that says everything  ;-).
This is primarily a Firefox extension, but there exists also an adaptation
to Seamonkey (as part of the xsidebar project http://xsidebar.mozdev.org).
So far this introduced no new side effects in Seamonkey.  ;-)

Regards, Jochen
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SM2 missing menubar on restored windows

2010-01-17 Thread Jochen Roderburg
I discovered recently that SM2 has now also the feature to restore
windows/tabs on normal restarts or after chrashes (like firefox).
That's very nice because I usually have many windows and tabs open and it is
always much work to restore everything by hand on such occasions.

But this feature has also an unexpected behaviour (bug?  ;-), the menubar
disappears on every restored window except the first one und I don't see any
possibility to get it back.  FWIW I have this on the Linux version.

Any idea what is going on here or where I should look?

Best regards,
J.Roderburg
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Re: SM2 missing menubar on restored windows

2010-01-17 Thread Jochen Roderburg
On 2010-01-17, Hartmut Figge h.fi...@gmx.de wrote:
 Jochen Roderburg:

I discovered recently that SM2 has now also the feature to restore
windows/tabs on normal restarts or after chrashes (like firefox).
That's very nice because I usually have many windows and tabs open and it is
always much work to restore everything by hand on such occasions.

 A nice feature, especially if you are using trunk. ;)

But this feature has also an unexpected behaviour (bug?  ;-), the menubar
disappears on every restored window except the first one und I don't see any
possibility to get it back.  FWIW I have this on the Linux version.

 Hm. I'm using only tabs and not new windows, so i haven't seen this.
 Have you looked into bugzilla if there is a related bug?

 Hartmut

Never mind, I finally found the culprit myself.

It was an old extension MonkeyMenu which provides a lot of additional
toolbar buttons for Seamonkey. Actually this was the only installed
extension and I used it only to get a button to clear the URL input line.
This old thing is no longer maintained and I had already patched the version
compatibility to get it installed under SM 2.0.x. OTOH it worked and I did
not suspect it to have such strange side effects.

Jochen Roderburg


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Re: Seamonkey 2.0 beta - Copy Image regression

2009-09-19 Thread Jochen Roderburg
On 2009-09-17, Robert Kaiser ka...@kairo.at wrote:

 If doing C/C++ hackery in small or medium size programs is what you can 
 do, I don't think some minor JavaScript and XUL/XML changes are 
 something you are not able to do ;-)

 Robert Kaiser

It's not so much the languages used there, it's just the sheer amount of
uncomprehensible source text that makes it difficult to find and fix
something in such a program.;-)

Jochen Roderburg
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Re: Seamonkey 2.0 beta - Copy Image regression

2009-09-19 Thread Jochen Roderburg
On 2009-09-18, NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net.invalid wrote:

 In 1.1.18 if I 'Copy Image' and paste to OOo I get the image. That of
 course includes the underlying URL to the photo (in this case I used the
 second image to the right of Mohamad Ali) If I paste to gedit I get only
 the url as gedit only handles text. The link pasted (in this case) is:
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:huCex4q5kTQCuM:http://tbn0.google.com/hosted/images/c%3Fq%3D3dc5ef6334bc72e6_large

 If I repeat the above with 2.0x the image is copied as a bitmap in OOo
 and the link is not available to copy into gedit. If I use Copy Link
 Location in 2.0x the url ends up as:

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://tbn0.google.com/hosted/images/c%3Fq%3D3dc5ef6334bc72e6_largeimgrefurl=http://images.google.com/hosted/life/l%3Fimgurl%3D3dc5ef6334bc72e6usg=__tgytc8ymFuk94hPFARRDQpmDaD0=h=1280w=859sz=93hl=enstart=2tbnid=huCex4q5kTQCuM:tbnh=150tbnw=101prev=/images%3Fq%3D1970s%2Bboxer%2Bsource:life%26hl%3Den

 And that link is considerably different than the one used in 1.1.18
 'Copy Image'. It does however, match the url provided in 'Copy Link
 Location' in 1.1.18.

 So again, my apologies. I'll update my comments on the bug report.


Yes, that is now completely correct and describes exactly what I was trying
to communicate.

Thanks for the comments in the bugzilla article, I see that meanwhile
someone else has left a draft for a correction there which looks very
promising.  I'll have a try if I can patch my installed version in this way.

Jochen Roderburg

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Re: Seamonkey 2.0 beta - Copy Image regression

2009-09-19 Thread Jochen Roderburg
On 2009-09-19, Jochen Roderburg roderb...@uni-koeln.de wrote:

 Thanks for the comments in the bugzilla article, I see that meanwhile
 someone else has left a draft for a correction there which looks very
 promising.  I'll have a try if I can patch my installed version in this way.

Yeah, it was possible and works as expected.  :-)

I know of course that such a small patch has still a long journey ahead
until it is accepted and completely integrated in the program, but it is a
start and as a quick hack it seems to be fully sufficient for my purposes.

So it looks like it wasn't such a bad idea to just talk about the issue
once again.  ;-)

Jochen Roderburg
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Re: Seamonkey 2.0 beta - Copy Image regression

2009-09-17 Thread Jochen Roderburg
On 2009-09-16, Robert Kaiser ka...@kairo.at wrote:
 Jochen Roderburg wrote:
 What can be done to get this regression repaired before a final SM2 version?

 What you can do is to write a patch for it - otherwise you probably just 
 can wait to see if someone else does. We're all volunteers here, working 
 on things in our free time, nobody can be forced to work on a specific 
 thing.

 Robert Kaiser

Yes, I understand well that there are volunteers ar work, especially in the
seamonkey project, and I am really the last one to demand something or
force someone to to anything.  ;-)

OTOH, I love that open source standard replay saying: If you have a
problem with our product, just go ahead and fix it yourself.  That may be
possible with a small or medium size open source program, and I have
actually succesfully made changes or fixed errors in such cases a number of
times.  But with huge programs like these mozilla products, I think this
goes beyond my abilities. That would be a task more appropriate for the
unknown volunteer who managed to smuggle in the error in the first place.

So please regard my messsage just as a report that I see a small not-yet
corrected error in the program with a little hope on my side that it may
attract the attention of someone who could repair it.  ;-)

J.Roderburg
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Seamonkey 2.0 beta - Copy Image regression

2009-09-16 Thread Jochen Roderburg
Hi all,

Seamonkey 1.1.x has the Copy Image function in some menus which copies the
URL of an imbedded image *and* the image itself to the clipboard.  In the
SM2 betas this function has lost the ability to copy the URL.  There is
already a bugzilla entry 469481 for this problem since end of last year, but
it is still not corrected.

What can be done to get this regression repaired before a final SM2 version?
I'm using this feature all the time, without it the new version would
practically be unusable for me.

Best Regards,

Jochen Roderburg
RRZK
University of Cologne
Robert-Koch-Str. 10Tel.:   +49-221/478-7024
D-50931 Koeln  E-Mail: roderb...@uni-koeln.de
Germany
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