Re: Mail date format changed in 2.53.1

2020-03-08 Thread Manuel Casal Lodeiro

In 08/03/20 10:55, Manuel Casal Lodeiro dixit:

In 3/8/20 9:35 AM, mike dixit:

On 08.03.2020 08:58, Manuel Casal Lodeiro wrote:

The locale format in message headers (in Thread pane in Mail window) has
changed from previous versions after updating to 2.53.1.


In Edit/Preferences/Appearance/Date and Time Formatting you can switch
between Application locale an Regional locale. That solved it for me.


Thanks, Mike. I had been searching for such a setting but hadn't found it.

I'll close Seamonkey and start it back to see if it worked.


Worked like a charm! Thank you so much!

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Re: Mail date format changed in 2.53.1

2020-03-08 Thread Manuel Casal Lodeiro

In 3/8/20 9:35 AM, mike dixit:

On 08.03.2020 08:58, Manuel Casal Lodeiro wrote:

The locale format in message headers (in Thread pane in Mail window) has
changed from previous versions after updating to 2.53.1.


In Edit/Preferences/Appearance/Date and Time Formatting you can switch
between Application locale an Regional locale. That solved it for me.


Thanks, Mike. I had been searching for such a setting but hadn't found it.

I'll close Seamonkey and start it back to see if it worked.
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energy crises. But we, as Black people, have been a source of
endless energy, endless beauty and endless determination. I
have many things to tell you about tomorrow’s love and light.
We will see you in Spring.»

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Mail date format changed in 2.53.1

2020-03-07 Thread Manuel Casal Lodeiro
Sorry if this has been pointed out in some previous message. I looked at 
the subjects and I found no reference. So here it goes:


The locale format in message headers (in Thread pane in Mail window) has 
changed from previous versions after updating to 2.53.1.


I'm using Linux version, with Ubuntu 18.04.4 LTS.

It's very strange, because I don't remember Seamonkey or Mozilla suite 
or Netscape *ever* changing this.


I've taken a look at about:config but I couldn't find where to change 
this back to my locale format DD/MM/YY. Now it's been changed to MM/DD/YY.


Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
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of this industrial empire, with threats of oil shortages and
energy crises. But we, as Black people, have been a source of
endless energy, endless beauty and endless determination. I
have many things to tell you about tomorrow’s love and light.
We will see you in Spring.»

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Re: How to move logins data to a new profile?

2019-11-13 Thread Manuel Casal Lodeiro

In 11/11/19 13:07, Chris Ilias dixit:

On 2019-11-11 4:41 a.m., Manuel Casal Lodeiro wrote:
My moving to a new profile as a solution to the multi-failure that we 
referring with subject "Multiple failures after disk became full 
(Linux)" is progressing quite well.


Finally I decided to put all acounts again in a single profile, and 
it's going ok, but I cannot get the saved logins (website signing 
data) to work in the new profile.


I've moved the following files, from the old profile to the new one, 
as I can see in http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_folder_-_SeaMonkey 
that they store this kind of data:

- key3.db
- signons.sqlite
and also a
- signons3.txt
I saw at the original (damaged) profile

Should I also move logins.json ? (I can't find it that Profile 
reference page) Or what else am I missing?


Yes, you should move logins.json and key3.db.
That mozillazine page is out of date, and no longer maintained. Use the 
instructions in the following page: 
<https://seamonkey.ilias.ca/profilefaq/#transferring>



Thanks so much, Chris! Just adding the old logins.json did the trick!

And thanks too for the reference to ilias.ca. Sadly this site is not so 
well positioned in search engines as Mozillazine, so most users 
searching for this kind of info won't find the most updated one. 
Something should be done about it...


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How to move logins data to a new profile?

2019-11-11 Thread Manuel Casal Lodeiro
My moving to a new profile as a solution to the multi-failure that we 
referring with subject "Multiple failures after disk became full 
(Linux)" is progressing quite well.


Finally I decided to put all acounts again in a single profile, and it's 
going ok, but I cannot get the saved logins (website signing data) to 
work in the new profile.


I've moved the following files, from the old profile to the new one, as 
I can see in http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_folder_-_SeaMonkey that 
they store this kind of data:

- key3.db
- signons.sqlite
and also a
- signons3.txt
I saw at the original (damaged) profile

Should I also move logins.json ? (I can't find it that Profile reference 
page) Or what else am I missing?


When I visit the pages (Wordpress logins for example) where the 
usernames and passwords were automatically (or semi-automatically) 
filled, the usernames nor the passwords show up.


Thanks in advance.
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Re: Multiple failures after disk became full (Linux)

2019-11-09 Thread Manuel Casal Lodeiro

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

Someone who knows more about the inner workings of Seamonkey would 
probably be able to give better advice, but I'd start thinking about 
creating a new profile and copying whatever can be rescued there if I 
was in that situation.
Use 
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_folder_-_SeaMonkey#Files_and_folders_in_the_profile 
to help you decide what you want to try and save.  The problem is that 
some of this stuff will be corrupt.


Best of luck



Thanks, that's exactly what I was doing yesterday (still not finished, 
because I'm taking the opportunity to organize my multiple accounts in 2 
profiles, personal and professional, and cleaning up accounts no longer 
used). Fortunately, by now everything I'm moving is showing up 
non-corrupted. The only problems are with filters that don't find the 
new path sometimes and get deactivated in the newe profiles. I must go 
one by one, each of them that fail, and re-assign the correct folder 
where to move filtered messages.


I still haven't tried to pass address book or bookmarks, nor made all 
the configurations in browser and mail. But I don't think it will be a 
big problem.


Thanks for all the suggestions. I absolutely recommend the "moving to 
new profile" approach if somebody gets in similar trouble.

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Re: Multiple failures after disk became full (Linux)

2019-11-09 Thread Manuel Casal Lodeiro
I've done another test: I have sent a message from one of the accounts 
that doesn't show their folders. This is the error message I get: "Your 
message has been sent and saved, but there was an error while running 
message filters on it"


I must say that I never create filters to be applied to sent messages, 
only to incoming messages. So, that message doesn't have any sense.

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Re: Multiple failures after disk became full (Linux)

2019-11-09 Thread Manuel Casal Lodeiro

In 09/11/19 11:35, Don Spam's Reckless Son dixit:

Reinstalling Seamonkey is not going to help - as you say - this problem 
only affects the profile.
I looked around a bit and saw 
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=40=913915 but am not 
sure that still works, certainly "mozbackup" is no longer to be 
considered reliable.  I'd certainly take a backup of your profile (while 
Seamonkey is not running) before playing around more although it may be 
a bit late for that.


I'll take a look to that case you refer, but...

The main difference with the typical corruption cases, is that my email 
messages are not lost, nor they are mixed. If you read my description of 
the failures they are mainly failures of *visualization* (of pages, of 
folders, of tabs names, of messages headers), or more especifically 
problems of *non visualization* of items. Besides I got the randomly 
ocurring error messages regarding Enigmail, applying filters, failed 
writing in folders, etc.


I'm think ablout creating a second profile, test if some of the errors 
are present there, and which ones, and then try to move there only the 
accounts that don't show their folders in the first profile. I guess 
that would give some clues or even a solution to use those accounts, 
though I will have to switche profiles each time I want to use them... 
That wouldn't be much of a problem.


> What are you doing about increasing the size of /home?

My way of emergency freeing space in /home is moving big files to an 
external drive.


Thanks!
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Re: Multiple failures after disk became full (Linux)

2019-11-09 Thread Manuel Casal Lodeiro

Thank you, David, for your quick answer.

In 08/11/19 21:10, David E. Ross dixit:


It is possible that your "full" disc problem affected the installation
of SeaMonkey or corrupted it.  If this is true, then even SeaMonkey's
profile was impacted.

In that case, I suggest the following:

1.  Uninstall SeaMonkey and delete its profile.

2.  Restore the prior version of SeaMonkey and its profile from a
backup.  (You do backups, don't you?)  I assume that you did not have
this problem with the prior version.


I'm not sure when the present version of SM got installed, but I think 
it's not a problem with *this* version, because this one was working 
well before the disk got full.


Regarding the backup, I used to do backups but due to a problem of 
memory anytime I launched the backup application I had to disable it :-( 
So no backup in the last weeks. This is the reason I need some other 
approach to the problem that does not include deleting of the profile data.



3.  With a cleaned up primary disc -- with plenty of space -- install
SeaMonkey 2.49.5.


Now I got some 25 GB free in my /home unit.

Won't a forced reinstall do the same?

Some extra info: Seamonkey is installed at /usr/bin/seamonkey which is 
another partition of the same disk, a partition which did not got full 
at any moment. So, how the filling of the /home partition could have 
affected this system partition? Strange, isn't it?


Thanks.
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Re: Multiple failures after disk became full (Linux)

2019-11-08 Thread Manuel Casal Lodeiro
In case it gives some additional hint: today I've experienced other new 
expressions of this multi-failure...


When I opened the Mail window some of the Folders' names of the first 
available account were missing (just blank spaces in their place). The 
same with some of the email messages in the messages-list pane (only 
with some; the others had its Sender, Subject, Data, etc. fields normally).


I closed Seamonkey and opened it again. This time no name missing, but 
when clicked on the first message at the Inbox of the first account, a 
brand new error popped-up: "Unable to load address book file 
history.mab. It may be read-only, or locked by another application. 
Please try again later."


When I clicked on "Get messages", then another error: "The messages 
could not be filtered to folder '[NameOFFolder]' because adding a 
message to it failed. Verify that the folder is displaying properly or 
try to repair it from the folder properties."


I hope this gives some extra information about the kind of error I'm 
suffering.

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Multiple failures after disk became full (Linux)

2019-11-08 Thread Manuel Casal Lodeiro
Hello, I'm new to this list so I will first apologize in advance in case 
I'm not following some rules that the list may have (though I haven't 
seen such in the welcome message).


Now I will try to describe the strange behaviour that my Seamonkey 
2.49.5 (in Ubuntu 18.04.3 LTS) is showing since a couple of days. I'm a 
long time user of the Mozilla browser genealogy (started in 1993 with 
Mosaic, then Netscape, then Mozilla Suite, then Seamonkey) and I had 
never seen such a thing. Everything started when I almost run out of 
space in /home disk. Suddenly there were only a few MB left when I 
started to quickly move some big files to some external units, but I 
guess my opened Seamonkey at some point run out of space and began 
showing some errors when trying to save some email message in some Sent 
folder.


Anyway, after freeing some GB in the disk, the problems strangely 
continued, being the main of them (and the only that is always present 
since the begining of this failures) that many of my mail accounts, 
though present at the left pane of the Mail window, now have no small 
black triangle at the left so I cannot access their folders, nor compact 
them, nor receive or send email from them. The other accounts appear to 
be ok, but sometimes they give various kind of errors when sending or 
receiving (Unable to write a copy... Unable to apply filters... Cannot 
connect to server...) that just disappeared when I retry a second 
afterwards. The curious thing is that the accounts that seem to be 
broken are all together - I mean my first 8 accounts are OK and then the 
rest are unaccesible. I thought it was a thing about the 9th account, 
that somehow could be broken and then made that Seamonkey could not 
follow "reading" the rest, so I recreated it (now it appears at the 
bottom, in the usual oldest first / newest last order) and copied all 
the mail files and folders from the original "broken" account. At first 
it fixed the problem and I could see them and use them at the next 
start, but after that, when I closed Seamonkey and started again they 
had lost the tiny triangle so I couldn't display their folders nor use 
those accounts in any way. I tried that for the first 2 non-usable 
accounts, and then I gave up.


Another clear effect of this multiple failure is that when I click on 
the mail icon at the browser to open the mail client window, it takes 
far more than usual to open it (nearly half a minute or so, when it used 
to take just a few seconds). I must explain here that I have 32 
accounts, some of them with dozens of folders and subfolders, some of 
them with thousands of email messages. But size had never caused me any 
trouble nor quite a big delay in opening Mail or in showing accounts and 
folders. I compact frequently.


Weird enough, on the second day the disease spreaded to the browser, 
which showed quite randomly these failures:
- Mouse pointer sometimes changed shape to a different kind of pointing 
hand icon.
- Sometimes, when writing some search terms on the location bar and 
pressed enter to launch Duckduckgo with them, browser showed error 
message that the web couldn't be found; when I press the Retry button 
below, DuckDuckGo shows the results with no problem.
- Suddenly some pages lost some of the content, mainly texts (all or 
just some) and I could only see some bullets, icons, backgrounds and 
graphs. Some texts are converted to the usual square icon that browser 
shows when it doesn't know how to render a charset. Other are just 
missing from the page, leaving no trace at all. When I click on Ctrl+ or 
Ctrl- then all content reappear.
- Tabs lost their name (magically disappear) when I moved the cursor 
over them. Only sometimes.


After many restarts and tries, on the second day, Mail window changed 
the available accounts: differently from before, now there were 
available: the 1st, the 6th, 9th, 11th, and some others. All previous 
tries showed available the first 8 accounts, and none of the rest of 
them. Next time I started Seamonkey it was again the first 8 accounts OK 
and all the rest showing no triangle.


Another strange behaviour that I detected only once is that the 
spam-recognition engine suddenly began to send nearly all messages in 
one of the available accounts to the spam folder, when it usually made 
no errors before.


Things I have tried up to now:
- To remove MSF files of the non available accounts.
- To disable Enigmail (some of the errors of the first day mentioned 
this add-on).
- To repair one by one all of the available folders of the available 
accounts.

- To compact them.
- To start Seamonkey in Safe Mode.
- To look for read only permissions in the non available folders (I have 
read it could be a cause for missing folders at Mozillazine's knowledge 
base).
- To fscheck the unit (at boot time with touch command). I saw no error 
messages.
- To look for strange folder paths at prefs.js (no path seems broken, 
either). Nevertheless, a