Seamonkey high memory usage

2021-03-11 Thread Keith Davis via support-seamonkey
Seamonkey starts off OK for sure. Memory usage low, lower than most other 
browsers on start-up.
As browsing continues, memory usage grows and grows, getting up to 500,000K, 
then higher, up to 750,000K or more.  Then, often crashes and freezes.
And this is when only a few tabs are opened.  The problem remains even after 
closing all tabs and memory usage doesn't drop at all.
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Re: High Memory Usage 2.53.3 64 bit

2020-09-17 Thread David H. Durgee
I'm afraid I don't know the answer to either of your questions.  The one
I am using is:

Restart Application Button 53.0
By Baris Derin

Restart Application Button lets you restart your Firefox and SeaMonkey
application by a quick toolbar button click.

This is in my list of extensions and it should be easy to find it and
try it for your problems.

Dave

> Ant wrote:
> Ah. I wonder what command it is using to tell it to automatically
> relaunch. Does it work when SM is stuck and automatically tell its
> startup's prompt to force exit the stuckage and relaunch? I get those
> once in a while with seamonkey.exe process stuck even though I quit SM
> earlier.
> 
> 
> On 9/17/2020 4:56 AM, David H. Durgee wrote:
>> The restart application button closes SeaMonkey and then launches it
>> again.  With the hot key you must start SeaMonkey manually.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>> Ant wrote:
>>> What is the difference between than regular exit (I use its default
>>> ctrl-q hotkeys)?
>>>
>>> On 9/16/2020 6:02 PM, David H. Durgee wrote:
 I use the "restart Application Button" add-on here for this.
> ...

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Re: High Memory Usage 2.53.3 64 bit

2020-09-17 Thread Ant
Ah. I wonder what command it is using to tell it to automatically 
relaunch. Does it work when SM is stuck and automatically tell its 
startup's prompt to force exit the stuckage and relaunch? I get those 
once in a while with seamonkey.exe process stuck even though I quit SM 
earlier.



On 9/17/2020 4:56 AM, David H. Durgee wrote:

The restart application button closes SeaMonkey and then launches it
again.  With the hot key you must start SeaMonkey manually.

Dave


Ant wrote:
What is the difference between than regular exit (I use its default
ctrl-q hotkeys)?

On 9/16/2020 6:02 PM, David H. Durgee wrote:

I use the "restart Application Button" add-on here for this.

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Re: High Memory Usage 2.53.3 64 bit

2020-09-17 Thread David H. Durgee
The restart application button closes SeaMonkey and then launches it
again.  With the hot key you must start SeaMonkey manually.

Dave

> Ant wrote:
> What is the difference between than regular exit (I use its default
> ctrl-q hotkeys)?
> 
> On 9/16/2020 6:02 PM, David H. Durgee wrote:
>> I use the "restart Application Button" add-on here for this.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>> Ant wrote:
>>> You can't do a normal quit? Sometimes I can do that if it lets me and
>>> still save my sessions.
>>>
>>> On 9/16/2020 1:29 AM, Szymon Stryczek wrote:
 I have exactly the same experience (just on 64-bit Windows).
 Slowdowns start to happen around Seamonkey reaching 2GB of RAM usage
 and they extend for me not only to tab switching but all, site
 scrolling, mail sending etc.
 "about:memory" + GC seems to help a little bit but honestly the only
 option that really helps me is brutal kill of process and my beloved
 "restore previous session" functionality - that does the trick for few
 next hours.
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Re: High Memory Usage 2.53.3 64 bit

2020-09-17 Thread Ant
What is the difference between than regular exit (I use its default 
ctrl-q hotkeys)?


On 9/16/2020 6:02 PM, David H. Durgee wrote:

I use the "restart Application Button" add-on here for this.

Dave


Ant wrote:
You can't do a normal quit? Sometimes I can do that if it lets me and
still save my sessions.

On 9/16/2020 1:29 AM, Szymon Stryczek wrote:

I have exactly the same experience (just on 64-bit Windows).
Slowdowns start to happen around Seamonkey reaching 2GB of RAM usage
and they extend for me not only to tab switching but all, site
scrolling, mail sending etc.
"about:memory" + GC seems to help a little bit but honestly the only
option that really helps me is brutal kill of process and my beloved
"restore previous session" functionality - that does the trick for few
next hours.

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Re: High Memory Usage 2.53.3 64 bit

2020-09-16 Thread David H. Durgee
I use the "restart Application Button" add-on here for this.

Dave

> Ant wrote:
> You can't do a normal quit? Sometimes I can do that if it lets me and
> still save my sessions.
> 
> On 9/16/2020 1:29 AM, Szymon Stryczek wrote:
>> I have exactly the same experience (just on 64-bit Windows).
>> Slowdowns start to happen around Seamonkey reaching 2GB of RAM usage
>> and they extend for me not only to tab switching but all, site
>> scrolling, mail sending etc.
>> "about:memory" + GC seems to help a little bit but honestly the only
>> option that really helps me is brutal kill of process and my beloved
>> "restore previous session" functionality - that does the trick for few
>> next hours.
>>
>>
>>
>> bdelmee wrote:
>>> Unfortunately this is my experience, too (on 64-bit linux)
>>>
>>> I typically keep 8-10 tabs open, which a t the end of a day
>>> typically means SM2.49.5 uses about 1-1.2 GB RAM.
>>> With SM2.53.3 this balloons to 2.5-3GB - much higher.
>>> There are also perceivable delays to switch between tabs.
>>>
>>> I am not complaining - i have been using the Mozilla suite since
>>> before its 1.0
>>> release and am very thankful to the developers who have kept
>>> SeaMonkey alive.
>>> Perhaps if I (and other users) spent more time with betas, things
>>> would be
>>> better but the trend is worrying.
>>>
>>>
>>>  Mr. Ed  wrote on 2020-09-10 02:06:
 I noticed today while running FaceBook and trying to turn off 
 Messenger
 Active Status the screen went slightly blurry, the "X" in upper
 right corner
 turned RED and the pointer became a spinning  circle. Everything
 froze.  I was
 able to open Task Manager via the "Control-Alt-Delete" and checked
 SeanMonkey.  Memory was just running up the scale.  Was a little
 over1GB when
 opened Task Manager and was increase like crazy.  In about 30
 seconds it was
 almost to 3GB.  I then 'stopped' SeaMonkey.

 I tried this again - same results.  Then I disabled Java Script.
 Tried again
 - same results.

 Anyone else experience this with FaceBook?  Sending SM into a loop?
 SeaMonkey
 or FaceBook or (heaven forbid) my problem?

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Re: High Memory Usage 2.53.3 64 bit

2020-09-16 Thread Ant
You can't do a normal quit? Sometimes I can do that if it lets me and 
still save my sessions.


On 9/16/2020 1:29 AM, Szymon Stryczek wrote:

I have exactly the same experience (just on 64-bit Windows).
Slowdowns start to happen around Seamonkey reaching 2GB of RAM usage and 
they extend for me not only to tab switching but all, site scrolling, 
mail sending etc.
"about:memory" + GC seems to help a little bit but honestly the only 
option that really helps me is brutal kill of process and my beloved 
"restore previous session" functionality - that does the trick for few 
next hours.




bdelmee wrote:

Unfortunately this is my experience, too (on 64-bit linux)

I typically keep 8-10 tabs open, which a t the end of a day
typically means SM2.49.5 uses about 1-1.2 GB RAM.
With SM2.53.3 this balloons to 2.5-3GB - much higher.
There are also perceivable delays to switch between tabs.

I am not complaining - i have been using the Mozilla suite since 
before its 1.0
release and am very thankful to the developers who have kept SeaMonkey 
alive.
Perhaps if I (and other users) spent more time with betas, things 
would be

better but the trend is worrying.


 Mr. Ed  wrote on 2020-09-10 02:06:

I noticed today while running FaceBook and trying to turn off  Messenger
Active Status the screen went slightly blurry, the "X" in upper right 
corner
turned RED and the pointer became a spinning  circle. Everything 
froze.  I was

able to open Task Manager via the "Control-Alt-Delete" and checked
SeanMonkey.  Memory was just running up the scale.  Was a little 
over1GB when
opened Task Manager and was increase like crazy.  In about 30 seconds 
it was

almost to 3GB.  I then 'stopped' SeaMonkey.

I tried this again - same results.  Then I disabled Java Script. 
Tried again

- same results.

Anyone else experience this with FaceBook?  Sending SM into a loop? 
SeaMonkey

or FaceBook or (heaven forbid) my problem?

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Re: High Memory Usage 2.53.3 64 bit

2020-09-16 Thread Szymon Stryczek

I have exactly the same experience (just on 64-bit Windows).
Slowdowns start to happen around Seamonkey reaching 2GB of RAM usage and 
they extend for me not only to tab switching but all, site scrolling, 
mail sending etc.
"about:memory" + GC seems to help a little bit but honestly the only 
option that really helps me is brutal kill of process and my beloved 
"restore previous session" functionality - that does the trick for few 
next hours.




bdelmee wrote:

Unfortunately this is my experience, too (on 64-bit linux)

I typically keep 8-10 tabs open, which a t the end of a day
typically means SM2.49.5 uses about 1-1.2 GB RAM.
With SM2.53.3 this balloons to 2.5-3GB - much higher.
There are also perceivable delays to switch between tabs.

I am not complaining - i have been using the Mozilla suite since before 
its 1.0
release and am very thankful to the developers who have kept SeaMonkey 
alive.

Perhaps if I (and other users) spent more time with betas, things would be
better but the trend is worrying.


 Mr. Ed  wrote on 2020-09-10 02:06:

I noticed today while running FaceBook and trying to turn off  Messenger
Active Status the screen went slightly blurry, the "X" in upper right 
corner
turned RED and the pointer became a spinning  circle. Everything 
froze.  I was

able to open Task Manager via the "Control-Alt-Delete" and checked
SeanMonkey.  Memory was just running up the scale.  Was a little 
over1GB when
opened Task Manager and was increase like crazy.  In about 30 seconds 
it was

almost to 3GB.  I then 'stopped' SeaMonkey.

I tried this again - same results.  Then I disabled Java Script.  
Tried again

- same results.

Anyone else experience this with FaceBook?  Sending SM into a loop?  
SeaMonkey

or FaceBook or (heaven forbid) my problem?



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Re: High Memory Usage 2.53.3 64 bit

2020-09-14 Thread bdelmee

Unfortunately this is my experience, too (on 64-bit linux)

I typically keep 8-10 tabs open, which a t the end of a day
typically means SM2.49.5 uses about 1-1.2 GB RAM.
With SM2.53.3 this balloons to 2.5-3GB - much higher.
There are also perceivable delays to switch between tabs.

I am not complaining - i have been using the Mozilla suite since before 
its 1.0
release and am very thankful to the developers who have kept SeaMonkey 
alive.

Perhaps if I (and other users) spent more time with betas, things would be
better but the trend is worrying.


 Mr. Ed  wrote on 2020-09-10 02:06:

I noticed today while running FaceBook and trying to turn off  Messenger
Active Status the screen went slightly blurry, the "X" in upper right corner
turned RED and the pointer became a spinning  circle. Everything froze.  I was
able to open Task Manager via the "Control-Alt-Delete" and checked
SeanMonkey.  Memory was just running up the scale.  Was a little over1GB when
opened Task Manager and was increase like crazy.  In about 30 seconds it was
almost to 3GB.  I then 'stopped' SeaMonkey.

I tried this again - same results.  Then I disabled Java Script.  Tried again
- same results.

Anyone else experience this with FaceBook?  Sending SM into a loop?  SeaMonkey
or FaceBook or (heaven forbid) my problem?


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Re: High Memory Usage 2.53.3 64 bit

2020-09-10 Thread Edward

On 9/9/20 8:06 PM,  Mr. Ed  wrote:

I noticed today while running FaceBook and trying to turn off  Messenger
Active Status the screen went slightly blurry, the "X" in upper right corner
turned RED and the pointer became a spinning  circle. Everything froze.  I was
able to open Task Manager via the "Control-Alt-Delete" and checked
SeanMonkey.  Memory was just running up the scale.  Was a little over1GB when
opened Task Manager and was increase like crazy.  In about 30 seconds it was
almost to 3GB.  I then 'stopped' SeaMonkey.

I tried this again - same results.  Then I disabled Java Script.  Tried again
- same results.

Anyone else experience this with FaceBook?  Sending SM into a loop?  SeaMonkey
or FaceBook or (heaven forbid) my problem?


Sometimes, it can be the web site causing this. I found the Yahoo home 
page causing SeaMonkey memory usage to go beyond 1Gb.




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Re: High Memory Usage 2.53.3 64 bit

2020-09-09 Thread Ant

Yes. Same with YouTube, LinkedIn, Gmail, Twitter, etc. :(

On 9/9/2020 5:06 PM,  Mr. Ed  wrote:

I noticed today while running FaceBook and trying to turn off  Messenger
Active Status the screen went slightly blurry, the "X" in upper right corner
turned RED and the pointer became a spinning  circle. Everything froze.  I was
able to open Task Manager via the "Control-Alt-Delete" and checked
SeanMonkey.  Memory was just running up the scale.  Was a little over1GB when
opened Task Manager and was increase like crazy.  In about 30 seconds it was
almost to 3GB.  I then 'stopped' SeaMonkey.

I tried this again - same results.  Then I disabled Java Script.  Tried again
- same results.

Anyone else experience this with FaceBook?  Sending SM into a loop?  SeaMonkey
or FaceBook or (heaven forbid) my problem?-- 
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High Memory Usage 2.53.3 64 bit

2020-09-09 Thread  Mr . Ed  via support-seamonkey
I noticed today while running FaceBook and trying to turn off  Messenger
Active Status the screen went slightly blurry, the "X" in upper right corner
turned RED and the pointer became a spinning  circle. Everything froze.  I was
able to open Task Manager via the "Control-Alt-Delete" and checked
SeanMonkey.  Memory was just running up the scale.  Was a little over1GB when
opened Task Manager and was increase like crazy.  In about 30 seconds it was
almost to 3GB.  I then 'stopped' SeaMonkey.

I tried this again - same results.  Then I disabled Java Script.  Tried again
- same results.

Anyone else experience this with FaceBook?  Sending SM into a loop?  SeaMonkey
or FaceBook or (heaven forbid) my problem?

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Re: High Memory Usage?

2018-09-13 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl

Apples and oranges.
IE is build into Windows and uses internal functions which are not reported by 
the memory usage. It also does not support many newer web features which are 
unfortunately memory hungrier.


SM 64 bit is around 300 MB from start with a few add-ons. x86 50 to 100 MB less.

Tom Pamin wrote:
SM 2.49.4 is using 414,000K of memory in Task Manager. IE uses about 55,000. 
Why the big difference? Can I reduce memory usage for SM?

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Re: High Memory Usage?

2018-09-12 Thread Ant via support-seamonkey

On 9/12/2018 12:09 PM, Ant wrote:
...

Thus, the content of Web pages -- text, images, scripts, etc -- is the
major factor in sizing.


LinkedIn.com is the worse. Very slow, bloated, and a hogger especially 
with multiple tabs. :(


Facebook.com is another one. :(
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Re: High Memory Usage?

2018-09-12 Thread Ant via support-seamonkey

On 9/12/2018 8:23 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 9/12/2018 3:13 AM, Tom Pamin wrote:

SM 2.49.4 is using 414,000K of memory in Task Manager. IE uses about
55,000. Why the big difference? Can I reduce memory usage for SM?



Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 x64
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.49.4
28 extensions

The Windows Task Manager indicates less than 132,000 KB with 2 tabs
open, including Web content.

The about:addons-memory indicates that SeaMonkey itself is using about
12,130 KB with only 1 tab open.  The about:addons-memory extension
itself is the largest extension with 4,310 KB.  Next largest is AdBlock
Plus with 671.5 KB.  Four others each require 106 KB to 266 KB.  All
other extensions are less than 100 KB.  These sizes exclude Web content.

Thus, the content of Web pages -- text, images, scripts, etc -- is the
major factor in sizing.


LinkedIn.com is the worse. Very slow, bloated, and a hogger especially 
with multiple tabs. :(

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Re: High Memory Usage?

2018-09-12 Thread Richmond
Tom Pamin wrote:
> Richmond wrote:
>> Tom Pamin wrote:
>>> SM 2.49.4 is using 414,000K of memory in Task Manager. IE uses about
>>> 55,000. Why the big difference? Can I reduce memory usage for SM?
>>
>> Are you using any addons? I found adblock plus was memory greedy.
>>
> Just disabled Adblock Plus. Usage went down to 364,000.

Are you visiting the same websites with IE and SM? In my experience it
is websites and their adverts, and extensions, which cause memory usage
to creep up.

You could look at about:memory to see if it gives some clues.

You could close all the tabs/windows and then open them again one at a
time to see which makes the memory go up.

You could use Noscript to restrict javascript to the domain being
visited. I am using Noscript 5.1.8.2 as later ones won't work with SM.
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Re: High Memory Usage?

2018-09-12 Thread David E. Ross
On 9/12/2018 3:13 AM, Tom Pamin wrote:
> SM 2.49.4 is using 414,000K of memory in Task Manager. IE uses about 
> 55,000. Why the big difference? Can I reduce memory usage for SM?
> 

Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 x64
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.49.4
28 extensions

The Windows Task Manager indicates less than 132,000 KB with 2 tabs
open, including Web content.

The about:addons-memory indicates that SeaMonkey itself is using about
12,130 KB with only 1 tab open.  The about:addons-memory extension
itself is the largest extension with 4,310 KB.  Next largest is AdBlock
Plus with 671.5 KB.  Four others each require 106 KB to 266 KB.  All
other extensions are less than 100 KB.  These sizes exclude Web content.

Thus, the content of Web pages -- text, images, scripts, etc -- is the
major factor in sizing.

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Re: High Memory Usage?

2018-09-12 Thread Ant via support-seamonkey

On 9/12/2018 3:45 AM, Tom Pamin wrote:

Richmond wrote:

Tom Pamin wrote:

SM 2.49.4 is using 414,000K of memory in Task Manager. IE uses about
55,000. Why the big difference? Can I reduce memory usage for SM?


Are you using any addons? I found adblock plus was memory greedy.


Just disabled Adblock Plus. Usage went down to 364,000.


Try uBlock Origin extension (https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock) and less 
ad filters and subscriptions. My SM can go over 1 GB of RAM on some web 
sites with multiple tabs. :(

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Re: High Memory Usage?

2018-09-12 Thread Tom Pamin

Richmond wrote:

Tom Pamin wrote:

SM 2.49.4 is using 414,000K of memory in Task Manager. IE uses about
55,000. Why the big difference? Can I reduce memory usage for SM?


Are you using any addons? I found adblock plus was memory greedy.


Just disabled Adblock Plus. Usage went down to 364,000.
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Re: High Memory Usage?

2018-09-12 Thread Tom Pamin

GerardJan wrote:

Tom Pamin wrote:
SM 2.49.4 is using 414,000K of memory in Task Manager. IE uses about 
55,000. Why the big difference? Can I reduce memory usage for SM?


Dear Tom,
I have a ¨top¨ attached so you can see how much /memory/ *seamonkey* 
uses at my site.

I have 4Gbyte RAM and uses Fedora version 20


Screenshot from 2018-09-12 12:30:58.png



Not sure I understand how to read it. How much memory is your SM using?
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Re: High Memory Usage?

2018-09-12 Thread Richmond
Tom Pamin wrote:
> SM 2.49.4 is using 414,000K of memory in Task Manager. IE uses about
> 55,000. Why the big difference? Can I reduce memory usage for SM?

Are you using any addons? I found adblock plus was memory greedy.

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Re: Recommendations for high-memory usage

2012-03-21 Thread Daniel

Jesse Molina wrote:


Follow-up on this issue from last month.

I had posted about using Seamonkey on Linux. I use mail and browser and
have a lot of tabs open and I almost never reboot or restart Seamonkey
unless I need to. I was finding that Seamonkey was really dragging with
the amount of load I was putting it under, and drag-and-drop features
would stop working often, requiring a restart to fix.

Someone suggested I try the 64bit version of Seamonkey, and I now am.

The performance improvement is dramatically positive. I have not yet
experienced the same trouble that I was having before, and I have really
tried to open a lot of windows and tabs.

Unfortunately, I just realized that Google maps is not working for me.
Otherwise, I had not had any other technical issues. Yahoo maps are
working fine though.



Google Maps works for me, SM 2.8 on Mandriva Linux 2007!


I did not mention it in my original post, but I was also having problems
with Flash and other videos jumping, skipping and doing other bad things
during playback. This is not longer happening.

Same user profile as before.



Jesse Molina wrote:


Oh really... I had no idea.

Do any plugins or addons have any problem with it?

Do you know of any other trouble that I might want to look out for?

Thanks for the tip! I will definitely try it out.



Daniel wrote:

Jesse, the SeaMonkey Council has been releasing an unsupported 64bit
SeaMonkey since back in the SM 1.x.x daysI am posting this reply
using SM 64bit on my Mandriva Linux!!

Also have SM 64 bit on my Windows 7 Pro!!

Very few problems on either!

Check out Contributed Builds at bottom of page

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/#2.7.2





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Re: Recommendations for high-memory usage

2012-03-21 Thread Jesse Molina


Thanks for the report.  I will check my own setup and see what the cause 
might be.


It could be one of my addons not working correctly.



Daniel wrote:

Google Maps works for me, SM 2.8 on Mandriva Linux 2007!


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Re: Recommendations for high-memory usage

2012-03-20 Thread Jesse Molina


Follow-up on this issue from last month.

I had posted about using Seamonkey on Linux.  I use mail and browser and 
have a lot of tabs open and I almost never reboot or restart Seamonkey 
unless I need to.  I was finding that Seamonkey was really dragging with 
the amount of load I was putting it under, and drag-and-drop features 
would stop working often, requiring a restart to fix.


Someone suggested I try the 64bit version of Seamonkey, and I now am.

The performance improvement is dramatically positive.  I have not yet 
experienced the same trouble that I was having before, and I have really 
tried to open a lot of windows and tabs.


Unfortunately, I just realized that Google maps is not working for me. 
Otherwise, I had not had any other technical issues.  Yahoo maps are 
working fine though.


I did not mention it in my original post, but I was also having problems 
with Flash and other videos jumping, skipping and doing other bad things 
during playback.  This is not longer happening.


Same user profile as before.



Jesse Molina wrote:


Oh really... I had no idea.

Do any plugins or addons have any problem with it?

Do you know of any other trouble that I might want to look out for?

Thanks for the tip! I will definitely try it out.



Daniel wrote:

Jesse, the SeaMonkey Council has been releasing an unsupported 64bit
SeaMonkey since back in the SM 1.x.x daysI am posting this reply
using SM 64bit on my Mandriva Linux!!

Also have SM 64 bit on my Windows 7 Pro!!

Very few problems on either!

Check out Contributed Builds at bottom of page

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/#2.7.2




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Re: Recommendations for high-memory usage

2012-03-20 Thread GerardJan

Jesse Molina wrote:


Follow-up on this issue from last month.

I had posted about using Seamonkey on Linux. I use mail and browser and
have a lot of tabs open and I almost never reboot or restart Seamonkey
unless I need to. I was finding that Seamonkey was really dragging with
the amount of load I was putting it under, and drag-and-drop features
would stop working often, requiring a restart to fix.

Someone suggested I try the 64bit version of Seamonkey, and I now am.

The performance improvement is dramatically positive. I have not yet
experienced the same trouble that I was having before, and I have really
tried to open a lot of windows and tabs.

Unfortunately, I just realized that Google maps is not working for me.
Otherwise, I had not had any other technical issues. Yahoo maps are
working fine though.

I did not mention it in my original post, but I was also having problems
with Flash and other videos jumping, skipping and doing other bad things
during playback. This is not longer happening.

Same user profile as before.



Jesse Molina wrote:


Oh really... I had no idea.

Do any plugins or addons have any problem with it?

Do you know of any other trouble that I might want to look out for?

Thanks for the tip! I will definitely try it out.



Daniel wrote:

Jesse, the SeaMonkey Council has been releasing an unsupported 64bit
SeaMonkey since back in the SM 1.x.x daysI am posting this reply
using SM 64bit on my Mandriva Linux!!

Also have SM 64 bit on my Windows 7 Pro!!

Very few problems on either!

Check out Contributed Builds at bottom of page

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/#2.7.2






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Re: Recommendations for high-memory usage

2012-03-01 Thread Daniel

Jim Taylor wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Jim Taylor wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Philip TAYLOR wrote:



Daniel wrote:


Also have SM 64 bit on my Windows 7 Pro!! Very few problems
on either! Check out Contributed Builds at bottom of page
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/#2.7.2


So where do I look for mention of a 64-bit Windows binary ?
All I see under Contributed builds is as follows :



Snip



Philip Taylor


Don't know, but I must have been directed somewhere to get my
original
64 bit Windows version.


I haven't seen a 64 bit windows build since 2.0. That doesn't mean
there
hasn't been one, just that I haven't noticed one. The win64 2.0 is
available at http://wiki.mozilla-x86-64.com/Download

Jim


Sorry, Jim, are you saying that there is not SM 2.7.2 for Windows in
64bit??


No, reread my post. I said I haven't seen a 64 bit windows build since
2.0. That doesn't mean there hasn't been one, just that I haven't
noticed one. and gave a link to the 64bit wiki.

Jim


...and, in one of my two replies that you cut, I effectively said I was 
mistaken and that you may be correct!


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Re: Recommendations for high-memory usage

2012-02-29 Thread Daniel

Jim Taylor wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Philip TAYLOR wrote:



Daniel wrote:


Also have SM 64 bit on my Windows 7 Pro!! Very few problems
on either! Check out Contributed Builds at bottom of page
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/#2.7.2


So where do I look for mention of a 64-bit Windows binary ?
All I see under Contributed builds is as follows :



Snip



Philip Taylor


Don't know, but I must have been directed somewhere to get my original
64 bit Windows version.


I haven't seen a 64 bit windows build since 2.0. That doesn't mean there
hasn't been one, just that I haven't noticed one. The win64 2.0 is
available at http://wiki.mozilla-x86-64.com/Download

Jim


Sorry, Jim, are you saying that there is not SM 2.7.2 for Windows in 64bit??

Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:10.0.2) 
Gecko/20120216 SeaMonkey/2.7.2


Admittedly, I actually d/l'ed 64bit V 2.0 and have just been updating 
since then, but I would expect there is a 64bit V 2.7.2 somewhere.


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Re: Recommendations for high-memory usage

2012-02-29 Thread Daniel

NoOp wrote:

On 02/27/2012 02:28 AM, Daniel wrote:
...


Also have SM 64 bit on my Windows 7 Pro!!

Very few problems on either!

If you mean:
From: Danielsnip
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:10.0.2)
Gecko/20120216 SeaMonkey/2.7.2
from your other post. The WOW64[1] in your URI tells me that is
standard SeaMonkey (32bit) running on your Win7 64bit O/S. Please have a
look in C: Program Files (x86) and I think you'll find your SeaMonkey
installation there.

[1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WoW64
quote
WoW64 (Windows 32-bit on Windows 64-bit) is a subsystem of the Windows
operating system that is capable of running 32-bit applications and is
included on all 64-bit versions of Windows—including Windows XP
Professional x64 Edition, IA-64 and x64 versions of Windows Server 2003,
as well as 64-bit versions of Windows Vista, Windows Server 2008, and
Windows 7. In Windows Server 2008 R2 Server Core, it is an optional
component. WoW64 is designed to take care of many of the differences
between 32-bit Windows and 64-bit Windows, particularly involving
structural changes to Windows itself.
/quote
...


Well, thank you, NoOp, that's my thing for the day!! Nothing about 
SeaMonkey under C: Program Files (x86) or anywhere else!!


Where do I get SM 64bit from??...apart from d/l'ing the V 2.0 version 
and update, update, update!!


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Re: Recommendations for high-memory usage

2012-02-29 Thread Daniel

Daniel wrote:

Jim Taylor wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Philip TAYLOR wrote:



Daniel wrote:


Also have SM 64 bit on my Windows 7 Pro!! Very few problems
on either! Check out Contributed Builds at bottom of page
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/#2.7.2


So where do I look for mention of a 64-bit Windows binary ?
All I see under Contributed builds is as follows :



Snip



Philip Taylor


Don't know, but I must have been directed somewhere to get my original
64 bit Windows version.


I haven't seen a 64 bit windows build since 2.0. That doesn't mean there
hasn't been one, just that I haven't noticed one. The win64 2.0 is
available at http://wiki.mozilla-x86-64.com/Download

Jim


Sorry, Jim, are you saying that there is not SM 2.7.2 for Windows in
64bit??

Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:10.0.2)
Gecko/20120216 SeaMonkey/2.7.2

Admittedly, I actually d/l'ed 64bit V 2.0 and have just been updating
since then, but I would expect there is a 64bit V 2.7.2 somewhere.



And, NoOp's post, which I replied to 17 mins after making the above 
post, informs me that WOW64 is only imitation 64bit program.


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Re: Recommendations for high-memory usage

2012-02-29 Thread WLS
On 02/29/2012 05:13 AM, Daniel wrote:
 NoOp wrote:
 On 02/27/2012 02:28 AM, Daniel wrote:
 ...

 Also have SM 64 bit on my Windows 7 Pro!!

 Very few problems on either!
 If you mean:
 From: Danielsnip
 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:10.0.2)
 Gecko/20120216 SeaMonkey/2.7.2
 from your other post. The WOW64[1] in your URI tells me that is
 standard SeaMonkey (32bit) running on your Win7 64bit O/S. Please have a
 look in C: Program Files (x86) and I think you'll find your SeaMonkey
 installation there.

 [1]
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WoW64
 quote
 WoW64 (Windows 32-bit on Windows 64-bit) is a subsystem of the Windows
 operating system that is capable of running 32-bit applications and is
 included on all 64-bit versions of Windows—including Windows XP
 Professional x64 Edition, IA-64 and x64 versions of Windows Server 2003,
 as well as 64-bit versions of Windows Vista, Windows Server 2008, and
 Windows 7. In Windows Server 2008 R2 Server Core, it is an optional
 component. WoW64 is designed to take care of many of the differences
 between 32-bit Windows and 64-bit Windows, particularly involving
 structural changes to Windows itself.
 /quote
 ...
 
 Well, thank you, NoOp, that's my thing for the day!! Nothing about
 SeaMonkey under C: Program Files (x86) or anywhere else!!
 
 Where do I get SM 64bit from??...apart from d/l'ing the V 2.0 version
 and update, update, update!!
 


There is no 64-bit build of SeaMonkey 2.7.2 for Windows.

Here is the link to the releases.

http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/releases/2.7.2/

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Re: Recommendations for high-memory usage

2012-02-29 Thread Jim Taylor

Daniel wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Jim Taylor wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Philip TAYLOR wrote:



Daniel wrote:


Also have SM 64 bit on my Windows 7 Pro!! Very few problems
on either! Check out Contributed Builds at bottom of page
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/#2.7.2


So where do I look for mention of a 64-bit Windows binary ?
All I see under Contributed builds is as follows :



Snip



Philip Taylor


Don't know, but I must have been directed somewhere to get my
original
64 bit Windows version.


I haven't seen a 64 bit windows build since 2.0. That doesn't mean
there
hasn't been one, just that I haven't noticed one. The win64 2.0 is
available at http://wiki.mozilla-x86-64.com/Download

Jim


Sorry, Jim, are you saying that there is not SM 2.7.2 for Windows in
64bit??


No, reread my post.  I said I haven't seen a 64 bit windows build 
since 2.0. That doesn't mean there hasn't been one, just that I 
haven't noticed one. and gave a link to the 64bit wiki.


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Re: Recommendations for high-memory usage

2012-02-28 Thread Daniel

Jesse Molina wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Jesse, the SeaMonkey Council has been releasing an unsupported 64bit
SeaMonkey since back in the SM 1.x.x daysI am posting this reply
using SM 64bit on my Mandriva Linux!!

Also have SM 64 bit on my Windows 7 Pro!!

Very few problems on either!

Check out Contributed Builds at bottom of page

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/#2.7.2




 Oh really... I had no idea.

 Do any plugins or addons have any problem with it?

 Do you know of any other trouble that I might want to look out for?

 Thanks for the tip! I will definitely try it out.




Jesse, I'm using my Win7 sm 64bit tonight, so I cannot tell you what 
extensions I've bothered to install on Linux!


On my Win7, I have Java 1.6.0.30 (old! must update!!), RealPlayer, 
Shockwave.


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Re: Recommendations for high-memory usage

2012-02-28 Thread Philip TAYLOR



Daniel wrote:


Also have SM 64 bit on my Windows 7 Pro!! Very few problems
on either! Check out Contributed Builds at bottom of page
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/#2.7.2


So where do I look for mention of a 64-bit Windows binary ?
All I see under Contributed builds is as follows :


Contributed builds (other platforms)

These are unofficial builds and may be configured
differently than the official SeaMonkey builds. Please read
their readme files for further information.

Linux/x86_64 Linux/x86_64 .tar.bz2 (readme) (MD5 sum) (SHA1
sum)

SeaMonkey 2.8 Beta 4

Released February 25, 2012

Release Notes - The release notes describe new changes,
system requirements, installation instructions, and known
issues in this release - please read them carefully before
using this version of SeaMonkey!




This preview of SeaMonkey's future is available from the
SeaMonkey 2.8 Beta 4 download page.


Incidentally, I just clicked on the English (British) language
pack, and Seamonkey told me (more uncopyable text : PLEASE make
the contents of all textual content copyable)


[blue jigsaw piece icon] Seamonkey prevented this site
(www.sea-monkey-project.org) from asking you to install
software on your computer.  [Install software | V]


Why would Seamonkey want to prevent its own reference site
from asking me to install software on my computer.  And
why (unrelated question) does the pop-up warning me of
these disappear as soon as I try to transcribe its contents
into this Compose window even if both applications are running
as non-overlapped windows ?  And one final (also completely
unrelated) question : why is Edit/rewrap non-determinstic ?
Every time I use it, without changing a single jot or tittle,
the line breaks change.

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Re: Recommendations for high-memory usage

2012-02-28 Thread Daniel

Philip TAYLOR wrote:



Daniel wrote:


Also have SM 64 bit on my Windows 7 Pro!! Very few problems
on either! Check out Contributed Builds at bottom of page
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/#2.7.2


So where do I look for mention of a 64-bit Windows binary ?
All I see under Contributed builds is as follows :



Snip



Philip Taylor


Don't know, but I must have been directed somewhere to get my original 
64 bit Windows version.


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Re: Recommendations for high-memory usage

2012-02-28 Thread Jim Taylor

Daniel wrote:

Philip TAYLOR wrote:



Daniel wrote:


Also have SM 64 bit on my Windows 7 Pro!! Very few problems
on either! Check out Contributed Builds at bottom of page
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/#2.7.2


So where do I look for mention of a 64-bit Windows binary ?
All I see under Contributed builds is as follows :



Snip



Philip Taylor


Don't know, but I must have been directed somewhere to get my original
64 bit Windows version.

I haven't seen a 64 bit windows build since 2.0.  That doesn't mean 
there hasn't been one, just that I haven't noticed one.  The win64 2.0 
is available at http://wiki.mozilla-x86-64.com/Download


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Re: Recommendations for high-memory usage

2012-02-28 Thread Philip TAYLOR



Jim Taylor wrote:


I haven't seen a 64 bit windows build since 2.0. That doesn't
mean there hasn't been one, just that I haven't noticed one. The
win64 2.0 is available at http://wiki.mozilla-x86-64.com/Download


Thank you, Jim.  If 64-bit development is not tracking 32-bit
from the perspective of security fixes, it is not an option
I am willing to consider.

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Re: Recommendations for high-memory usage

2012-02-28 Thread NoOp
On 02/27/2012 02:28 AM, Daniel wrote:
...
 
 Also have SM 64 bit on my Windows 7 Pro!!
 
 Very few problems on either!
If you mean:
From: Daniel snip
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:10.0.2)
Gecko/20120216 SeaMonkey/2.7.2
from your other post. The WOW64[1] in your URI tells me that is
standard SeaMonkey (32bit) running on your Win7 64bit O/S. Please have a
look in C: Program Files (x86) and I think you'll find your SeaMonkey
installation there.

[1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WoW64
quote
WoW64 (Windows 32-bit on Windows 64-bit) is a subsystem of the Windows
operating system that is capable of running 32-bit applications and is
included on all 64-bit versions of Windows—including Windows XP
Professional x64 Edition, IA-64 and x64 versions of Windows Server 2003,
as well as 64-bit versions of Windows Vista, Windows Server 2008, and
Windows 7. In Windows Server 2008 R2 Server Core, it is an optional
component. WoW64 is designed to take care of many of the differences
between 32-bit Windows and 64-bit Windows, particularly involving
structural changes to Windows itself.
/quote
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Re: Recommendations for high-memory usage

2012-02-27 Thread Philip TAYLOR



Jesse Molina wrote:

 I have 16GB of RAM, very modern multi-core CPU etc. Seamonkey
 only goes up to 2GB before it maxes out.

Seamonkey is currently a 32-bit application; are you running
a 32-bit or 64-bit O/S, and if the former, are you using PAE,
4GT or AWE ?  Only 4GT is likely to be of help -- it would allow
a 32-bit application such as Seamonkey to use 3GB of RAM.

Philip Taylor



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Re: Recommendations for high-memory usage

2012-02-27 Thread Jesse Molina


Hi.  I am currently on a 3.1.0-1-686-pae kernel.  I am aware that 
Seamonkey is only 32 bit and of the 2GB limitation, and I've seen it max 
out at 2GB many times before.


I regret that it may be some time... if ever, that we see Seamonkey go 
64bit.  So much old code in there.




Philip TAYLOR wrote:



Jesse Molina wrote:

  I have 16GB of RAM, very modern multi-core CPU etc. Seamonkey
  only goes up to 2GB before it maxes out.

Seamonkey is currently a 32-bit application; are you running
a 32-bit or 64-bit O/S, and if the former, are you using PAE,
4GT or AWE ? Only 4GT is likely to be of help -- it would allow
a 32-bit application such as Seamonkey to use 3GB of RAM.

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Re: Recommendations for high-memory usage

2012-02-27 Thread Daniel

Philip TAYLOR wrote:



Jesse Molina wrote:

  I have 16GB of RAM, very modern multi-core CPU etc. Seamonkey
  only goes up to 2GB before it maxes out.

Seamonkey is currently a 32-bit application; are you running
a 32-bit or 64-bit O/S, and if the former, are you using PAE,
4GT or AWE ? Only 4GT is likely to be of help -- it would allow
a 32-bit application such as Seamonkey to use 3GB of RAM.

Philip Taylor





Philip, in the original Post, the OP stated My platform is Linux 
32-bit.  - Why they have 16GB of ram is beyond me!!


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Re: Recommendations for high-memory usage

2012-02-27 Thread Daniel

Jesse Molina wrote:


Hi. I am currently on a 3.1.0-1-686-pae kernel. I am aware that
Seamonkey is only 32 bit and of the 2GB limitation, and I've seen it max
out at 2GB many times before.

I regret that it may be some time... if ever, that we see Seamonkey go
64bit. So much old code in there.




Jesse, the SeaMonkey Council has been releasing an unsupported 64bit 
SeaMonkey since back in the SM 1.x.x daysI am posting this reply 
using SM 64bit on my Mandriva Linux!!


Also have SM 64 bit on my Windows 7 Pro!!

Very few problems on either!

Check out Contributed Builds at bottom of page

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/#2.7.2

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Re: Recommendations for high-memory usage

2012-02-27 Thread PhillipJones

Jesse Molina wrote:


Hi. I am currently on a 3.1.0-1-686-pae kernel. I am aware that
Seamonkey is only 32 bit and of the 2GB limitation, and I've seen it max
out at 2GB many times before.

I regret that it may be some time... if ever, that we see Seamonkey go
64bit. So much old code in there.



Philip TAYLOR wrote:



Jesse Molina wrote:

 I have 16GB of RAM, very modern multi-core CPU etc. Seamonkey
 only goes up to 2GB before it maxes out.

Seamonkey is currently a 32-bit application; are you running
a 32-bit or 64-bit O/S, and if the former, are you using PAE,
4GT or AWE ? Only 4GT is likely to be of help -- it would allow
a 32-bit application such as Seamonkey to use 3GB of RAM.

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I've found That applications that run in 64bit mode on my Macbook Pro 
(with 8gb Ram) that 64 bit programs seem to freeze much more and exibit 
strange symptoms. Even the system runs better as 32 bit. One nice thing 
is apps in 32 bit don't drain the battery excessively like 64bit does.


(Computer was bought a year ago the 18th of this month.)

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Re: Recommendations for high-memory usage

2012-02-27 Thread Jesse Molina


Oh really... I had no idea.

Do any plugins or addons have any problem with it?

Do you know of any other trouble that I might want to look out for?

Thanks for the tip!  I will definitely try it out.



Daniel wrote:

Jesse, the SeaMonkey Council has been releasing an unsupported 64bit
SeaMonkey since back in the SM 1.x.x daysI am posting this reply
using SM 64bit on my Mandriva Linux!!

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Recommendations for high-memory usage

2012-02-26 Thread Jesse Molina


Hi all

I use Seamonkey.  Both mail and the browser.

My platform is Linux 32-bit.

I leave my computer running constantly and the only time Seamonkey gets 
restarted is when it crashes or when it gets so slow that I just kill it 
and restart.


I have a tenancy to run with maybe twenty windows, each with an average 
of five tabs each.


Eventually, once or twice a week, Seamonkey just crashes or I kill it 
because it has frozen up or become so slow that I can not take it any 
more.  I often find that the first symptom of over-usage is that 
drag-and drop of tabs and mail items stops working.


Are there any recommendations for configuration options, environment, 
plugins to use/not-use, etc for my situation?


I have gotten into the habit of bookmarking windows and their tabs and 
then opening then when I need them, but my usage of so many windows is 
legitimate and it slows down my work when I have to go searching the 
bookmarks list for the tabs I need to reference.


Does anyone have any suggestions or recommendations for me?

Thanks in advance.



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Re: Recommendations for high-memory usage

2012-02-26 Thread Jesse Molina


A few more things that I forgot to mention...

I have been using Seamonkey since Netscape came in a box.  I probably 
should start over with a new profile.  I have not needed to do that in a 
long time though, so some things in there could be slowing me down and I 
do not realize it.


I have 16GB of RAM, very modern multi-core CPU etc.  Seamonkey only goes 
up to 2GB before it maxes out.  Right now, I am at 500MB real / 1GB VS.




Jesse Molina wrote:


Hi all

I use Seamonkey. Both mail and the browser.

My platform is Linux 32-bit.

I leave my computer running constantly and the only time Seamonkey gets
restarted is when it crashes or when it gets so slow that I just kill it
and restart.

I have a tenancy to run with maybe twenty windows, each with an average
of five tabs each.

Eventually, once or twice a week, Seamonkey just crashes or I kill it
because it has frozen up or become so slow that I can not take it any
more. I often find that the first symptom of over-usage is that drag-and
drop of tabs and mail items stops working.

Are there any recommendations for configuration options, environment,
plugins to use/not-use, etc for my situation?

I have gotten into the habit of bookmarking windows and their tabs and
then opening then when I need them, but my usage of so many windows is
legitimate and it slows down my work when I have to go searching the
bookmarks list for the tabs I need to reference.

Does anyone have any suggestions or recommendations for me?

Thanks in advance.





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# Page = page-je...@opendreams.net
# Cell = 1.602.323.7608
# Web  = http://www.opendreams.net/jesse/


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