Re: Feedback to Seamonkey developers - SM 2.0 high CPU resource consumption bursts

2009-11-01 Thread Robert Kaiser

Hartmut Figge schrieb:

First i had posted about this issue several weeks ago in
4abf7628.4060...@hfigge.myfqdn.de, also dcsm.n-b. And later i thought
that some numbers would be nice. *g*


As it looks like we have a real problem with a reproducible and 
logically explainable cause, do we also have a bug report for that?


And do we know if TB3 has the same issue?

In any case, thanks for finding this out, those points above should IMHO 
be the next steps if they haven't been done already.


Also, it might make sense to do a release notes entry for this under 
Known Issues, we'd need a text and the bug reference for that.


Robert Kaiser
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Re: Feedback to Seamonkey developers - SM 2.0 high CPU resource consumption bursts

2009-11-01 Thread NoOp
On 10/31/2009 07:13 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote:
 NoOp:
 
 I have 'Check for...' turned off for all news servers, but have
 grown accustom to the high cpu when checking my gmane.org newsgroups
 in 2.0 where I have at least 25 subscribed groups.
 
 Yes, it doesn't matter if you check manually or if that si done
 automatically.
 
 When I first open the server (click the right triangle next to the 
 server name), cpu skyrockets  all things mozilla pause. I can
 confirm that this does not happen when doing the same from my 1.1.18
 (linux  windows).
 
 I have already given the time frame. First the problem could be avoided
 by backing out 'Patch, version 1.1' from
 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=311774.
 4ac0a452.4070...@hfigge.myfqdn.de. 

Ok I give, what specifically is: 4ac0a452.4070...@hfigge.myfqdn.de ?

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Re: Feedback to Seamonkey developers - SM 2.0 high CPU resource consumption bursts

2009-11-01 Thread Hartmut Figge
NoOp:
On 10/31/2009 07:13 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote:

 I have already given the time frame. First the problem could be avoided
 by backing out 'Patch, version 1.1' from
 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=311774.
 4ac0a452.4070...@hfigge.myfqdn.de. 

Ok I give, what specifically is: 4ac0a452.4070...@hfigge.myfqdn.de ?

Don't understand the question. Are you asking about, what a MID is? Or
for the content of posting to which the MID is pointing?

Well, using the MIDF on the MID one can get the Posting e.g. in Goggle.
http://groups.google.com/group/de.comm.software.mozilla.nightly-builds/msg/159965120a124f64

The MIDF is one of two add-ons i cannot live without. The other one is
Mnenhy. *g*

Hartmut
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Re: Feedback to Seamonkey developers - SM 2.0 high CPU resource consumption bursts

2009-11-01 Thread NoOp
On 11/01/2009 04:12 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote:
 NoOp:
On 10/31/2009 07:13 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote:
 
 I have already given the time frame. First the problem could be avoided
 by backing out 'Patch, version 1.1' from
 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=311774.
 4ac0a452.4070...@hfigge.myfqdn.de. 

Ok I give, what specifically is: 4ac0a452.4070...@hfigge.myfqdn.de ?
 
 Don't understand the question. Are you asking about, what a MID is? Or
 for the content of posting to which the MID is pointing?

The Message ID: 4ac0a452.4070...@hfigge.myfqdn.de
I don't use google groups et al; nor do many others.

 
 Well, using the MIDF 

Obviously you are not from Malaysia :-)
http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/MIDF

 on the MID one can get the Posting e.g. in Goggle.
 http://groups.google.com/group/de.comm.software.mozilla.nightly-builds/msg/159965120a124f64

Blah - it's Message-ID (according to the header), as in
Message-ID: 4aee23d7.2050...@hfigge.myfqdn.de
 The link works, but it's really a post on
news://de.comm.software.mozilla.nightly-builds/ and why assume anyone
uses google group eh?

 
 The MIDF is one of two add-ons i cannot live without. The other one is
 Mnenhy. *g*

Never used Mnenhy. But simply posting a 'Message-ID' in a bug report
probably isn't going to get much mileage. My suggestion would be to be
less lazy (:-)) and: 1) post a link to the msg as you've done above,
and/or 2) just post what you are talking about.

For others interested; here is the english translation (provided by
google) of Harmut's post with some snippage:

http://groups.google.com/group/de.comm.software.mozilla.nightly-builds/msg/159965120a124f64
quote
...

Hartmut Figge   
View profile   Translate to English Translated (View Original)
Hartmut Figge:  Alfred Peters  Through Check-Out confirmed:  Yes,
the patch is to blame! 'You're so terribly active. I hope that I succeed
in my  conscience to keep in check. It is not. There was such an
insidious gnawing constantly in the background because of suspicious
matches. Sigh. So, after this patch Kick out the problem with that is
CPU load removed. Hartmut -- Usenet-ABC-Wiki
http://www.usenet-abc.de/wiki/ Of users for user :-)
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From: Hartmut Figge h.fi...@gmx.de
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 13:56:02 +0200
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Hartmut Figge:

 Alfred Peters
 Through Check-Out confirmed:
 Yes, the patch is to blame!

'You're so terribly active. I hope that I succeed in my
 conscience to keep in check.

It is not. There was such an insidious gnawing constantly in the background
because of suspicious matches. Sigh.

So, after this patch Kick out the problem with that is
CPU load removed.

Hartmut
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Of users for user :-)
/quote

And after all of that, I'm not sure that I understand anything :-)
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Re: Feedback to Seamonkey developers - SM 2.0 high CPU resource consumption bursts

2009-11-01 Thread Hartmut Figge
NoOp:
 On 11/01/2009 04:12 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote:

 Well, using the MIDF
 
Obviously you are not from Malaysia :-) 
http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/MIDF

:-P http://messageidfinder.mozdev.org/

But this one will not work on SM2. I had to fix it for my personal
needs. And there will be no official new version AFAIK. The
functionality may be transferred to a future version of Mnenhy, though.

Here is a screenshot of the menu of the MIDF.
http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/mi091018.png (34 KB)

it's Message-ID (according to the header), as in Message-ID: 
4aee23d7.2050...@hfigge.myfqdn.de The link works, but it's really a
post on news://de.comm.software.mozilla.nightly-builds/

Right.

and why assume anyone uses google group eh?

You have to have a method of finding this posting using the MID. One
possibility is the advanced search of Google.

A better one is to interrogate a newsserver directly. Sometimes Google
fails to find a posting.

 The MIDF is one of two add-ons i cannot live without. The other one
 is Mnenhy. *g*
 
Never used Mnenhy. But simply posting a 'Message-ID' in a bug report 
probably isn't going to get much mileage.

Mhm, i felt responsible to add some comment ...

My suggestion would be to  be less lazy (:-))

... but there is this point. *g*

 and: 1) post a link to the msg as you've done above,

The result would still point to a text in German.

and/or 2) just post what you are talking about.

Much could be done better. More investigation, determining the time
frame, providing a patch.

But luckily i am only a user and not a devel. So i can stay with
Wizardry 7, at the moment. :)

Hartmut
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Re: Feedback to Seamonkey developers - SM 2.0 high CPU resource consumption bursts

2009-11-01 Thread Philip Chee
On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 16:28:48 -0800, NoOp wrote:
 On 11/01/2009 04:12 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote:
 NoOp:

 The Message ID: 4ac0a452.4070...@hfigge.myfqdn.de
 I don't use google groups et al; nor do many others.
 
 Well, using the MIDF 
 
 Obviously you are not from Malaysia :-)
 http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/MIDF

Well I am, so that reference by Hartmut confused me no end.

Phil

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oh Night, and so be good for us to pass.
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Re: Feedback to Seamonkey developers - SM 2.0 high CPU resource consumption bursts

2009-11-01 Thread Hartmut Figge
Philip Chee:
 On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 16:28:48 -0800, NoOp wrote:
 On 11/01/2009 04:12 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote:

 Well, using the MIDF
 
 Obviously you are not from Malaysia :-) 
 http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/MIDF
 
 Well I am, so that reference by Hartmut confused me no end.

Didn't know, that the MIDF may be unknown in this NG. ;)

Hartmut
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Re: Feedback to Seamonkey developers - SM 2.0 high CPU resource consumption bursts

2009-10-31 Thread User
An update to the reoccuring stalling mystery of SM 2.0 that I posted in detail 
earlier. After many hours of close observation of the CPU load on the individual 
CPU cores on the multi-core CPU I am running on, using both the AMD Power 
Monitor (which displayed individual core load and dynamic core clock speed), as 
well as the Windows-XP Task Manager PERFORMANCE tab CPU activity graphs. I have 
noted that whenever the SM 2.0 stalling occurs every few minutes, the CPU load / 
utilization on one of the 3 cores on the processor reaches nearly full load 100% 
for a number of seconds (often 10 to 20 seconds), during which time the entire 
SM 2.0 suite and all its windows will freeze / stall temporarily. This 
observation has been consistent all this time.


To further verify that this symptom and CPU load is contributed ENTIRELY by SM 
2.0, I also ran the SYSTINTERALS PROCESS EXPLORER, which I use as a system 
diagnostic tool from time to time:


http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896653.aspx

This utility confirms that the CPU load surge is contributed ENTIRELY by the 
process listed as seamonkey.exe in the process list of the Process Explorer 
utility, and not from any other process at all. My system is completely clean of 
any virus or spyware and is closely monitored at all times. There is also no 
other utility running in the background and the set up is identical to when I 
was running all previous SM 1.1.1X releases.


When the CPU load surges, Process Explorer's CPU consumption reading for 
seamonkey.exe surges up to 33.33% (of the entire system's available CPU power), 
this basically concurs with my observation on the AMD Power Monitor utility 
which indicates that one of the three cores on this CPU receives a load very 
close to or at 100% load during the stalling period.



SM 2.0 TWEAKS
At this point, I am at a loss as to what possible internal function or process 
inside SM 2.0 could possibly cause what appears to be a massive CPU consumption 
surge at semi-regular time intervals that could possibly contribute to this. 
Some internal configuration parameters within ABOUT:CONFIG have been tweaked / 
tested with no significant improvement. Some of the parameters / actions I have 
tweaked included:


* Disabling browser session restoration function (browser.sessionstore.enabled)
* Drastically increasing the browser session save interval 
(browser.sessionstore.interval) from the default 10 seconds to 300 seconds (5 
minutes)
* Editing the CRASH REPORTER initialization file CRASHREPORTER.INI so that the 
Crash Reporter is disabled on start up.
* Tweaking the browser cache memory value (browser.cache.memory.capacity), a 
value which was removed from the PREFERENCES window settings quite some time ago 
in the Mozilla suite, before Seamonkey.



OTHER STRANGE OBSERVATIONS - SM Windows task bar button disappearance

One symptom I noticed during the stalling period is when I am scrolling through 
a displayed e-mail (not in mail composition window). If stalling is occuring and 
I turn my mouse wheel, the e-mail scrolling does not immediately occur during 
the stalling period, and the Windows busy mouse pointer icon appears if I try 
to scroll or simply click inside the e-mail. After the stalling period is over, 
the e-mail will scroll, BUT - then the TASKBAR BUTTON for the MAIL WINDOW will 
DISAPPEAR from the Windows taskbar completely.


Usually, I will have the browser window and mail window open at the same time, 
so after this disappearance, I will be left ONLY with the browser window's 
taskbar button on the taskbar EVEN THOUGH the mail window is still open. In 
order to restore the mail window taskbar button, I have to flip the focus to 
the browser window by hitting Ctrl-1, then flip the focus back to the mail 
window by hitting Ctrl-2. At that point, the Windows taskbar button for the mail 
window will reappear on the Windows taskbar.


I have observed that with SM 1.X or 1.1.XX versions, occasionally I may also 
lose one of the Windows taskbar buttons for an open SM window. Most often this 
happens to the mail composition window under SM 1.X because I flip back and 
forth between browser, mail window and mail composition windows a lot when I use 
SM, often using the Windows Alt-Tab keyboard shortcut. But with SM 2.0, this is 
the first time I can consistently trigger the Windows task bar button 
disappearance by simply doing something while the stalling period is occuring.

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Re: Feedback to Seamonkey developers - SM 2.0 high CPU resource consumption bursts

2009-10-31 Thread Rick Merrill

Are you doing updates more than once a day?
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Re: Feedback to Seamonkey developers - SM 2.0 high CPU resource consumption bursts

2009-10-31 Thread User
Nope. I always disable all automatic updates for all my software if at all 
possible, including SM. The release I am currently running is the original 
release posted on the official Seamonkey project page on the first day it was 
released. It has not been updated since nor am I aware that there is an update 
available. I read that the next forthcoming minor revision will be 2.01.


It's starting to get quite painful now using SM 2.0 due to the regular stalling, 
and all available diagnostic tools I have to look at what's going on from 
outside of the SM application points directly to SM somehow internally causing 
these CPU load surges. I'm seriously starting to think about putting SM 1.1.18 
back on because the SM suite's functionality is an extremely important on my 
system that I am literally always using when my system is running.



Rick Merrill wrote:

Are you doing updates more than once a day?


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Re: Feedback to Seamonkey developers - SM 2.0 high CPU resource consumption bursts

2009-10-31 Thread User

Hartmut Figge wrote:

User:


An update to the reoccuring stalling mystery of SM 2.0 that I posted in detail
earlier. After many hours of close observation of the CPU load on the individual
CPU cores on the multi-core CPU I am running on, using both the AMD Power
Monitor (which displayed individual core load and dynamic core clock speed), as
well as the Windows-XP Task Manager PERFORMANCE tab CPU activity graphs. I have
noted that whenever the SM 2.0 stalling occurs every few minutes, the CPU load /
utilization on one of the 3 cores on the processor reaches nearly full load 100%
for a number of seconds (often 10 to 20 seconds), during which time the entire
SM 2.0 suite and all its windows will freeze / stall temporarily. This
observation has been consistent all this time.


That reminds me on4ae69e4e.60...@hfigge.myfqdn.de  in
de.comm.software.mozilla.nightly-builds. For me the increasing load
occurs every time when the newsservers are updated due to 'Check for new
messages every [ ] minutes'. Or at the start of MailNews.

First i had posted about this issue several weeks ago in
4abf7628.4060...@hfigge.myfqdn.de, also dcsm.n-b. And later i thought
that some numbers would be nice. *g*

http://www.triffids.de/pub/sm/2.0/load/smlog.txt

In the lines starting with 'top' the relative time of the measurement
can be seen. Every second. Interesting is the number below %CPU.

Haven't investigated further. But you are not alone, it seems. ;)

Hartmut



Thanks very much for your reply. Finally - an explanation for the first time on 
this mystery that makes a lot of sense. I did already notice that when loading 
newsgroups or downloading large number of newgroup headers, or when removing 
expired newsgroup articles, that considerable CPU load results. It just never 
occured to me that the auto check newsgroup messages would cause this sort of 
serious load on the entire suite to the point of stalling.


I've since inspected the auto check server settings for the several newsgroup 
servers I have set up with SM 2.0 (all newsgroups of which were successfully 
migrated manually from SM 1.X) and found that there were 2 news servers (the 
Mozilla server included) that had auto check message function on. From what I 
remember, I had these preferences on in SM 1.X as well but never appeared to 
encounter the CPU load issue in SM 1.X and didn't think much about it when 
migrating to SM 2.0.


However, after disabling the auto check message function, virtually all of the 
stalling appeared to have disappeared. I have only used SM 2.0 for about an hour 
since this making this adjustment, but overall everything is working a lot more 
smoothly though there is still the occasional minor stuttering of video playback 
(I tried only Flash FLV playback in web pages so far), and Flash FLV video 
playback within a web page appears to still generate more CPU load compared to 
SM 1.X, but the demands are still well within available CPU power from my 
multi-core CPU.


One thing I have never been too clear about the newsgroup function on the 
Mozilla suite / Seamonkey - if I have a newsgroup server collapsed in the news 
folder pane, then the newsgroup server is NOT accessed UNTIL I either highlight 
the news server or open it and highlight one of the newsgroups hosted on the 
server, is that correct? Normally, I do not access newsgroups much and would 
like to keep newsgroup functions CPU loads to zero or minimal levels. If you or 
anyone can clarify this point about the newgroup function, I would appreciate it.

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Re: Feedback to Seamonkey developers - SM 2.0 high CPU resource consumption bursts

2009-10-31 Thread Hartmut Figge
User:

One thing I have never been too clear about the newsgroup function on the 
Mozilla suite / Seamonkey - if I have a newsgroup server collapsed in the news 
folder pane, then the newsgroup server is NOT accessed UNTIL I either 
highlight 
the news server or open it and highlight one of the newsgroups hosted on the 
server, is that correct?

Unfortunately not true for at least SM2.0 nightlies of the last months
and now SM2.1. It became obvious with the increase of the load during
the fetch of new postings. Btw, the time frame for this is

h...@e675 ~ $ fenster 0909240813-0909251108
2009-09-23 23:13:00 PDT
2009-09-25 02:08:00 PDT

as i had written in 4ac096d3.7030...@hfigge.myfqdn.de

At the moment the collapsed state of a newsserver is not honored when
new postings are automatically fetched or at the start of MailNews. All
what matters are the two checkboxes for 'Check for ...' under Server
Settings.

Well, this is a horrible waste of bandwidth and useless also. If a
newsserver is collapased, why should he care about new postings?

I had lamented strongly about this issue in dcsm. *g*

Hartmut
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Re: Feedback to Seamonkey developers - SM 2.0 high CPU resource consumption bursts

2009-10-31 Thread User

Hartmut Figge wrote:

User:


One thing I have never been too clear about the newsgroup function on the
Mozilla suite / Seamonkey - if I have a newsgroup server collapsed in the news
folder pane, then the newsgroup server is NOT accessed UNTIL I either highlight
the news server or open it and highlight one of the newsgroups hosted on the
server, is that correct?


Unfortunately not true for at least SM2.0 nightlies of the last months
and now SM2.1. It became obvious with the increase of the load during
the fetch of new postings. Btw, the time frame for this is

h...@e675 ~ $ fenster 0909240813-0909251108
2009-09-23 23:13:00 PDT
2009-09-25 02:08:00 PDT

as i had written in4ac096d3.7030...@hfigge.myfqdn.de

At the moment the collapsed state of a newsserver is not honored when
new postings are automatically fetched or at the start of MailNews. All
what matters are the two checkboxes for 'Check for ...' under Server
Settings.

Well, this is a horrible waste of bandwidth and useless also. If a
newsserver is collapased, why should he care about new postings?

I had lamented strongly about this issue in dcsm. *g*

Hartmut


Thanks again for your reply. Do you have any confirmation whether the collapsed 
news server state in SM 1.X resulted in the application from skipping of the 
news server fetch operation? If yes, then this would appear to be a regression 
of a sensible logic that should be in place. Certainly it caused me a lot of 
wasted time and grief shortly after installation of SM 2.0 to try and find out 
why the hell the application was having regular CPU load surges to the point of 
bringing the entire application to its knees.


One thing that seems to be contradicting your assessment though, is that I have 
one news server group set up whereby when it is accessed, it will prompt me for 
a password. However, when I have that newsgroup collapsed, the password is never 
prompted, so presumably this implies that news server is never accessed / 
checked. This would seem contradictory to your assessment that the news server 
is checked even if the news server group was collapsed. So I am not sure about 
this point.


I did not view the messages in the links to other German newsgroups you 
mentioned earlier, because I had presumed they might be in German language. But 
if it is English I would be interested to check it out. I agree that it is a 
useless waste of bandwidth and also more importantly, a completely avoidable 
problem with regards to CPU load and application thread load. It would be nice 
if someone who has close involvement in the newsgroup logic development on SM 
2.0 provide some insight / clarification on this issue.

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Re: Feedback to Seamonkey developers - SM 2.0 high CPU resource consumption bursts

2009-10-31 Thread Hartmut Figge
User:

Thanks again for your reply. Do you have any confirmation whether the
collapsed news server state in SM 1.X resulted in the application
from skipping of the news server fetch operation?

Too long ago for me. I am using self compiled nightlies for many years
and SM1, well, after deleting older builds my archive now begins with a
SM1.5a from 060201. ;)

One thing that seems to be contradicting your assessment though, is 
that I have one news server group set up whereby when it is accessed,
it will prompt me for a password. However, when I have that newsgroup
collapsed, the password is never prompted, so presumably this implies
that news server is never accessed / checked. This would seem
contradictory to your assessment that the news server is checked even
if the news server group was collapsed. So I am not sure about this
point.

That behavior is true for newsservers when 'Check for ...' under Server
Settings is not checked. I have to to so for some newsservers because
otherwise the collapsed state is nor respected. *grrr*

I did not view the messages in the links to other German newsgroups 
you mentioned earlier, because I had presumed they might be in German
language.

So it is. I'm writing much in the german newsgroups of mozilla. But in
news.mozilla.org, well, that's hard work for me.

But if it is English I would be interested to check it out.

There is a translator in google. :-P

I agree that it is a useless waste of bandwidth and also more
importantly, a completely avoidable problem with regards to CPU load
and application thread load.

With regard of not respecting the collapsed state it is a waste, but on
the other other hand there is now a very nice feature which may be
related to the load.

While reading a NG new postings now appear automatically. No need, to
trigger that. Very nice. :) Oh, i am using View-Threads-Threads with
Unread.

Hartmut
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Re: Feedback to Seamonkey developers - SM 2.0 high CPU resource consumption bursts

2009-10-31 Thread NoOp
On 10/31/2009 04:58 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote:
 User:
 
One thing I have never been too clear about the newsgroup function on the 
Mozilla suite / Seamonkey - if I have a newsgroup server collapsed in the 
news 
folder pane, then the newsgroup server is NOT accessed UNTIL I either 
highlight 
the news server or open it and highlight one of the newsgroups hosted on the 
server, is that correct?
 
 Unfortunately not true for at least SM2.0 nightlies of the last months
 and now SM2.1. It became obvious with the increase of the load during
 the fetch of new postings. Btw, the time frame for this is
 
 h...@e675 ~ $ fenster 0909240813-0909251108
 2009-09-23 23:13:00 PDT
 2009-09-25 02:08:00 PDT
 
 as i had written in 4ac096d3.7030...@hfigge.myfqdn.de
 
 At the moment the collapsed state of a newsserver is not honored when
 new postings are automatically fetched or at the start of MailNews. All
 what matters are the two checkboxes for 'Check for ...' under Server
 Settings.
 
 Well, this is a horrible waste of bandwidth and useless also. If a
 newsserver is collapased, why should he care about new postings?
 
 I had lamented strongly about this issue in dcsm. *g*
 
 Hartmut

I have 'Check for...' turned off for all news servers, but have grown
accustom to the high cpu when checking my gmane.org newsgroups in 2.0
where I have at least 25 subscribed groups. Perhaps I got used to it in
testing 2.x pre/nightly/alpha/beta etc.

When I first open the server (click the right triangle next to the
server name), cpu skyrockets  all things mozilla pause. I can confirm
that this does not happen when doing the same from my 1.1.18 (linux 
windows).

This is a valid issue. But I've not bothered searching for a bug report
yet, but would appreciate it if perhaps you know of one already opened?


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Re: Feedback to Seamonkey developers - SM 2.0 high CPU resource consumption bursts

2009-10-31 Thread Hartmut Figge
NoOp:

 I have 'Check for...' turned off for all news servers, but have
 grown accustom to the high cpu when checking my gmane.org newsgroups
 in 2.0 where I have at least 25 subscribed groups.

Yes, it doesn't matter if you check manually or if that si done
automatically.

 When I first open the server (click the right triangle next to the 
 server name), cpu skyrockets  all things mozilla pause. I can
 confirm that this does not happen when doing the same from my 1.1.18
 (linux  windows).

I have already given the time frame. First the problem could be avoided
by backing out 'Patch, version 1.1' from
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=311774.
4ac0a452.4070...@hfigge.myfqdn.de. But strangely this was not longer
true as i tried that some time later.

I could have investigated further, but, did i mention already that i'm
lazy? ;)

Hartmut
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Re: Feedback to Seamonkey developers - SM 2.0 high CPU resource consumption bursts

2009-10-31 Thread NoOp
On 10/31/2009 07:13 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote:
 NoOp:
 
 I have 'Check for...' turned off for all news servers, but have
 grown accustom to the high cpu when checking my gmane.org newsgroups
 in 2.0 where I have at least 25 subscribed groups.
 
 Yes, it doesn't matter if you check manually or if that si done
 automatically.
 
 When I first open the server (click the right triangle next to the 
 server name), cpu skyrockets  all things mozilla pause. I can
 confirm that this does not happen when doing the same from my 1.1.18
 (linux  windows).
 
 I have already given the time frame. First the problem could be avoided
 by backing out 'Patch, version 1.1' from
 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=311774.
 4ac0a452.4070...@hfigge.myfqdn.de. But strangely this was not longer
 true as i tried that some time later.

Thanks for the link.

 
 I could have investigated further, but, did i mention already that i'm
 lazy? ;)
 

Yes, on multiple occasions :-)



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Re: Feedback to Seamonkey developers - SM 2.0 high CPU resource consumption bursts

2009-10-31 Thread User

NoOp wrote:

When I first open the server (click the right triangle next to the
server name), cpu skyrockets  all things mozilla pause. I can confirm
that this does not happen when doing the same from my 1.1.18 (linux
windows).


Strangely also, when the newsgroup auto check messages function is enabled, I 
found that the web browser URL field auto complete function is extremely slow. 
Previously in SM 1.X for Windows, the auto complete search is almost 
instantaneous when I type in a partial match of a previously visited URL. But 
for all the time up until I disabled the newsgroup auto check message function 
in SM 2.0, I found that the browser URL field auto complete function was 
extremely slow and I had to wait a number of seconds before matches would be 
displayed.


Now with the newsgroup auto check messages function turned off in SM 2.0, the 
browser URL auto complete search function is as fast as what I had in SM 1.X.

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Re: Feedback to Seamonkey developers - SM 2.0 high CPU resource consumption bursts

2009-10-30 Thread User
Update to the original feedback post I made earlier - After extensive monitoring 
of individual core load on the multi-core CPU while playing back many different 
Flash FLV videos, I can positively confirm that virtually all of the time, Flash 
FLV playback using the exact same Flash plug-in that I previously used on SM 
1.X, requires SIGNIFICANTLY more CPU power and generates much more load on the 
CPU cores when played back under SM 2.0 compared to playing back on SM 1.X. The 
core load percentage as well as the individual core clock speed as adjusted 
through dynamic throttling, clearly confirms this.

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