Re: Crash in my Windows XP Pro SP3 box with foreign characters. Re: SeaMonkey 2.35!

[Gérard]

On 09/15/2015 10:44 AM, Ant wrote:

According to those links it is a known problem: Bug 1200021, reported
for Firefox 40 and Firefox 38esr.


I think I figured out the pattern of my crashes. It is happening when
there are foreign languages' characters like on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJomcfTgNZ8=1191 , http://google.cn ,
etc. Is there a way to block these foreign characters to avoid crashes?
It's not like I can read them. :(


Did you try to see, if this also happens with one of my builds here:
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/
?


No, but Walt said it is not fixed as shown in mentioned
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1200021 ? Or is there a bug
report of this issue? I'll be happy to use a prerelease with this fix
and if it is stable overall.


Sad. The 1200021 bug report hasn't changed since I last updated it even though I
was willing to help to test it. :(


it works with my XP version 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJomcfTgNZ8=1191

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35!

[cetega23]

On Thursday, September 3, 2015 at 8:14:40 AM UTC-7, Edmund Wong wrote:
> Dear All,
> 
> I'm just so stoked. (This isn't a normal release post as it's just way
> to special.)
> 
> It is with great privilege and joy that I can announce to the world, the
> SeaMonkey Project has just RELEASED SeaMonkey 2.35.
> 
> SeaMonkey 2.33.1 was released in March.  It's now September.  Yes, you
> have all suffered the worries of vulnerabilities.  But worry no longer
> for the *actual* release of SeaMonkey 2.35 has been pushed to the
> server. Win32, Linux and OSX64!
> 
> The SeaMonkey Project team wishes to thank EVERYONE for their patience
> with us while we get back into the flow.  While we aren't actually
> 'flowing' (right now, limping), we are determined to get things back
> to normal, now that we KNOW we can get things done.
> 
> So update your copy now!
> 
> http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/
> 
> PS: SeaMonkey 2.38b1 is the next release.

Nice, big thanks for the support! After Opera started going in a direction I 
didn't care for, Seamonkey went from being a backup option to my full time 
primary browser. I look forward to using it for a long time to come.

On a side note, please don't ever get rid of the drop-down address bar the way 
other browsers are doing, haha. I use it constantly.
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Re: Crash in my Windows XP Pro SP3 box with foreign characters. Re: SeaMonkey 2.35!

[Ant]

According to those links it is a known problem: Bug 1200021, reported
for Firefox 40 and Firefox 38esr.


I think I figured out the pattern of my crashes. It is happening when
there are foreign languages' characters like on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJomcfTgNZ8=1191 , http://google.cn ,
etc. Is there a way to block these foreign characters to avoid crashes?
It's not like I can read them. :(


Did you try to see, if this also happens with one of my builds here:
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/
?


No, but Walt said it is not fixed as shown in mentioned
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1200021 ? Or is there a bug
report of this issue? I'll be happy to use a prerelease with this fix
and if it is stable overall.


Sad. The 1200021 bug report hasn't changed since I last updated it even 
though I was willing to help to test it. :(

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35 and extensions

[Ant]

On 9/5/2015 6:39 AM, Wolf wrote:

Thanks a lot to the SeaMonkey Project team for their hard work to keep
SeaMonkey alive.

My question:
Will these extensions work with the new version of SeaMonkey 2.35:
*Lightning*, *PrefBar* and *BetterPrivacy Mod*?

...

I use PrefBar, and it still works.
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35 and extensions

[sean]

On 09/05/2015 06:39 AM, Wolf wrote:

Thanks a lot to the SeaMonkey Project team for their hard work to keep
SeaMonkey alive.

My question:
Will these extensions work with the new version of SeaMonkey 2.35:
*Lightning*, *PrefBar* and *BetterPrivacy Mod*?

Still waiting for Seamonkey 2.35 on UbuntuZilla.

Regards
Wolf




Seamonkey hit Ubuntuzilla overnight, updated mine this morning... along 
with an updated version of Lightning... 4.0b6, but it appears disabled 
for the moment.


sean

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35 and extensions

[sean]

On 09/10/2015 12:10 PM, NoOp wrote:

On 09/10/2015 09:21 AM, sean wrote:

On 09/05/2015 06:39 AM, Wolf wrote:

Thanks a lot to the SeaMonkey Project team for their hard work to keep
SeaMonkey alive.

My question:
Will these extensions work with the new version of SeaMonkey 2.35:
*Lightning*, *PrefBar* and *BetterPrivacy Mod*?

Still waiting for Seamonkey 2.35 on UbuntuZilla.

Regards
Wolf




Seamonkey hit Ubuntuzilla overnight, updated mine this morning... along
with an updated version of Lightning... 4.0b6, but it appears disabled
for the moment.

sean



Install 4.0.2
Lightning   4.0.2   true{e2fda1a4-762b-4020-b5ad-a41df1933103}
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/lightning/

You can always check the versions here:
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Calendar/Calendar_Versions


just finished doing so here... Seamonkey offered to download and update 
to the 4.0b6 version of Lightning... which wasn't compatible... strange...

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35 and extensions

[NoOp]

On 09/10/2015 12:19 PM, sean wrote:
> On 09/10/2015 12:10 PM, NoOp wrote:
>> On 09/10/2015 09:21 AM, sean wrote:
>>> On 09/05/2015 06:39 AM, Wolf wrote:
 Thanks a lot to the SeaMonkey Project team for their hard work to keep
 SeaMonkey alive.

 My question:
 Will these extensions work with the new version of SeaMonkey 2.35:
 *Lightning*, *PrefBar* and *BetterPrivacy Mod*?

 Still waiting for Seamonkey 2.35 on UbuntuZilla.

 Regards
 Wolf

>>>
>>>
>>> Seamonkey hit Ubuntuzilla overnight, updated mine this morning... along
>>> with an updated version of Lightning... 4.0b6, but it appears disabled
>>> for the moment.
>>>
>>> sean
>>>
>>
>> Install 4.0.2
>> Lightning4.0.2   true{e2fda1a4-762b-4020-b5ad-a41df1933103}
>> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/lightning/
>>
>> You can always check the versions here:
>> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Calendar/Calendar_Versions
> 
> just finished doing so here... Seamonkey offered to download and update 
> to the 4.0b6 version of Lightning... which wasn't compatible... strange...
> 

Yeah, I had the same issue with all of my linux versions (downloaded
from Adrian's builds on http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/#2.35
/
https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/releases/2.35/contrib/seamonkey-2.35.en-US.linux-x86_64.tar.bz2

Maybe a build issue as I _think_ the build calls out the next version to
use. The build was stagnant for a long time, so perhaps the correct
version was 4.0b6 previously?


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35 and extensions

[NoOp]

On 09/10/2015 09:21 AM, sean wrote:
> On 09/05/2015 06:39 AM, Wolf wrote:
>> Thanks a lot to the SeaMonkey Project team for their hard work to keep
>> SeaMonkey alive.
>>
>> My question:
>> Will these extensions work with the new version of SeaMonkey 2.35:
>> *Lightning*, *PrefBar* and *BetterPrivacy Mod*?
>>
>> Still waiting for Seamonkey 2.35 on UbuntuZilla.
>>
>> Regards
>> Wolf
>>
> 
> 
> Seamonkey hit Ubuntuzilla overnight, updated mine this morning... along 
> with an updated version of Lightning... 4.0b6, but it appears disabled 
> for the moment.
> 
> sean
> 

Install 4.0.2
Lightning   4.0.2   true{e2fda1a4-762b-4020-b5ad-a41df1933103}
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/lightning/

You can always check the versions here:
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Calendar/Calendar_Versions



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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35!

[Brian Mailman]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 9/6/2015 4:16 PM, WaltS48 wrote:

On 09/06/2015 06:45 PM, Brian Mailman wrote:

humptydumpty wrote:

Edmund Wong wrote:

Dear All,

I'm just so stoked. (This isn't a normal release post as it's just way
to special.)

It is with great privilege and joy that I can announce to the world, the
SeaMonkey Project has just RELEASED SeaMonkey 2.35.

SeaMonkey 2.33.1 was released in March.  It's now September.  Yes, you
have all suffered the worries of vulnerabilities.  But worry no longer
for the *actual* release of SeaMonkey 2.35 has been pushed to the
server. Win32, Linux and OSX64!

The SeaMonkey Project team wishes to thank EVERYONE for their patience
with us while we get back into the flow.  While we aren't actually
'flowing' (right now, limping), we are determined to get things back
to normal, now that we KNOW we can get things done.

So update your copy now!

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/

PS: SeaMonkey 2.38b1 is the next release.


I'm stoked also because the issue regarding the viewing of binary files
in newsgroups has been fixed in this version. Running SM 2.35 on a
Windows 10 system.

Thanks to the team for their great work.


What issue regarding the viewing of binary files in newsgroups?

B/







Some news servers strip away binaries from newsgroup messages except in
newsgroups that have "binary" in their names.  Other server simply block
such messages.  No code in a news reader application (e.g., SeaMonkey,
Thunderbird) can compensate for that.


Got it, thanks.  It's been a long time since I was a regular in 
alt.config.  That's as it should be.


B/




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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35 and extensions

[Wolf]

Wolf wrote:

EE schrieb:

Cecil Bankston wrote:

Wolf wrote:

Thanks a lot to the SeaMonkey Project team for their hard work to keep
SeaMonkey alive.

My question:
Will these extensions work with the new version of SeaMonkey 2.35:
*Lightning*, *PrefBar* and *BetterPrivacy Mod*?

Still waiting for Seamonkey 2.35 on UbuntuZilla.



Lightning & PrefBar work.  I don't use BetterPrivacy.


BetterPrivacy seems to be working for me.


I will try
Lightning 4.0.2 multilingual for SeaMonkey 2.35 – 2.35.*
PrefBar 7.0.0
BetterPrivacy Mod 1.68.m


The above mentioned Add-ons are working with Seamonkey 2.35

Regards
Wolf

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35!

[Alex Beauroy]

On 3. 9. 2015 17.14 goź., Edmund Wong wrote:

Dear All,

I'm just so stoked. (This isn't a normal release post as it's just way
to special.)

It is with great privilege and joy that I can announce to the world, the
SeaMonkey Project has just RELEASED SeaMonkey 2.35.

SeaMonkey 2.33.1 was released in March.  It's now September.  Yes, you
have all suffered the worries of vulnerabilities.  But worry no longer
for the *actual* release of SeaMonkey 2.35 has been pushed to the
server. Win32, Linux and OSX64!

The SeaMonkey Project team wishes to thank EVERYONE for their patience
with us while we get back into the flow.  While we aren't actually
'flowing' (right now, limping), we are determined to get things back
to normal, now that we KNOW we can get things done.

So update your copy now!

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/

PS: SeaMonkey 2.38b1 is the next release.

I am deeply moved to see SeaMonkey going on!!! I am proud of the 
wonderful work of the team!!!

With all my gratitude!!!
@lex
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Re: Crash in my Windows XP Pro SP3 box with foreign characters. Re: SeaMonkey 2.35!

[Ant]

On 9/7/2015 1:41 AM, Adrian Kalla wrote:


According to those links it is a known problem: Bug 1200021, reported
for Firefox 40 and Firefox 38esr.


I think I figured out the pattern of my crashes. It is happening when
there are foreign languages' characters like on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJomcfTgNZ8=1191 , http://google.cn ,
etc. Is there a way to block these foreign characters to avoid crashes?
It's not like I can read them. :(


Did you try to see, if this also happens with one of my builds here:
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/ ?


No, but Walt said it is not fixed as shown in mentioned 
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1200021 ? Or is there a bug 
report of this issue? I'll be happy to use a prerelease with this fix 
and if it is stable overall.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35!

[Neil]

Philipp van Hüllen wrote:

1.5 days at work (Win7) and 3rd day at home (MacOS10.10): No problem 
seen, some fixes observed, and it actually feels faster/smoother at 
some points. Nice job. :-)


This might be because this is using the newer VS2013 compiler rather 
than the previous release that used the VS2010 compiler. Or it might 
just be down to general code improvements, I guess.


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Re: Crash in my Windows XP Pro SP3 box with foreign characters. Re: SeaMonkey 2.35!

[Ant]

https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/c020cdb3-bcf8-41c4-89ce-016cb2150903
in a new SM profile with its defaults and no third party extensions.

https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/8a76830b-cee1-4a05-90fa-41b412150903
in safe mode with the new profile.


According to those links it is a known problem: Bug 1200021, reported
for Firefox 40 and Firefox 38esr.


I think I figured out the pattern of my crashes. It is happening when
there are foreign languages' characters like on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJomcfTgNZ8=1191 , http://google.cn ,
etc. Is there a way to block these foreign characters to avoid crashes?
It's not like I can read them. :(


FYI.
https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/6f845258-9280-494a-a806-5628c2150906
for a crash dump with a brand new profile and in safe mode. :(


And you don't believe the bug report listed in that crash report?

[1200021 – crash in
mozilla::layers::ContentClientDoubleBuffered::FinalizeFrame(nsIntRegion
const&)]


It looks like the same. I will add my two cents. Thanks.
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Re: Crash in my Windows XP Pro SP3 box with foreign characters. Re: SeaMonkey 2.35!

[Adrian Kalla]

W dniu 09/07/2015 o 01:11 AM, Ant pisze:
fe mode with the new profile.
>>
>> According to those links it is a known problem: Bug 1200021, reported
>> for Firefox 40 and Firefox 38esr.
> 
> I think I figured out the pattern of my crashes. It is happening when
> there are foreign languages' characters like on
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJomcfTgNZ8=1191 , http://google.cn ,
> etc. Is there a way to block these foreign characters to avoid crashes?
> It's not like I can read them. :(

Did you try to see, if this also happens with one of my builds here:
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/ ?
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35!

[Neil]

EE wrote:

I am not seeing the vertical lines.  Of course, I use third-party 
themes, but I would still expect to see them.


SeaMonkey 2.33 didn't show the lines at all because of bug 1083501 
(fixed in bug 1105105). Otherwise the lines are drawn by the theme, so 
it's vaguely possible that your third-party theme doesn't support them, 
in which case you should try the Modern theme for comparison purposes.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35!

[Neil]

Brian Mailman wrote:


What issue regarding the viewing of binary files in newsgroups?


Firefox has a new cache subsystem. Unfortunately the newsgroup code is 
not compatible with it and so images in HTML news posts do not display. 
As an interim measure we've disabled the new cache so that those posts 
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35!

[bgr . tpl]

Am Donnerstag, 3. September 2015 17:14:40 UTC+2 schrieb Edmund Wong:
> Dear All,
> 
> I'm just so stoked. (This isn't a normal release post as it's just way
> to special.)
> 
> It is with great privilege and joy that I can announce to the world, the
> SeaMonkey Project has just RELEASED SeaMonkey 2.35.
> 
> SeaMonkey 2.33.1 was released in March.  It's now September.  Yes, you
> have all suffered the worries of vulnerabilities.  But worry no longer
> for the *actual* release of SeaMonkey 2.35 has been pushed to the
> server. Win32, Linux and OSX64!
> 
> The SeaMonkey Project team wishes to thank EVERYONE for their patience
> with us while we get back into the flow.  While we aren't actually
> 'flowing' (right now, limping), we are determined to get things back
> to normal, now that we KNOW we can get things done.
> 
> So update your copy now!
> 
> http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/
> 
> PS: SeaMonkey 2.38b1 is the next release.

Sorry, i can not find kontact of SeaMonkey. I have a Problem. SeaMonkey 2.35 
ist korrupt. After download E-Mail come Repert-List. Computer freeze. dead. no 
working.
I have reset to SeaMonkey 2.33.1, is stabil and ok.
Automatische Update of 2,35 i can not stopp. After day news Update of 2.35. I 
reset of 2.33.1 (new install).
What Problem SeaMonkey 2,35?
thank (i can't english )
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35!

[EE]

Neil wrote:

EE wrote:


I am not seeing the vertical lines.  Of course, I use third-party
themes, but I would still expect to see them.


SeaMonkey 2.33 didn't show the lines at all because of bug 1083501
(fixed in bug 1105105). Otherwise the lines are drawn by the theme, so
it's vaguely possible that your third-party theme doesn't support them,
in which case you should try the Modern theme for comparison purposes.

I suppose I shall have to start using the default theme as my gold 
standard instead of Early Blue.  That one worked so well in the past, 
but it has not been updated recently.  An older theme which has not been 
updated officially for years, but which I tweaked to make it work, still 
shows the vertical lines.


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Re: Crash in my Windows XP Pro SP3 box. Re: SeaMonkey 2.35!

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Ant wrote:


 crashes too. I
wonder if it is because of the foreign characters. :(


Plays fine here on Win7 SP1, SM 2.33.1 after a brief pause to load.

Of course, M$ discontinued support for that 12-year-old operating system 
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Re: Crash in my Windows XP Pro SP3 box with foreign characters. Re: SeaMonkey 2.35!

[Ant]

https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/c020cdb3-bcf8-41c4-89ce-016cb2150903
in a new SM profile with its defaults and no third party extensions.

https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/8a76830b-cee1-4a05-90fa-41b412150903

in safe mode with the new profile.


According to those links it is a known problem: Bug 1200021, reported
for Firefox 40 and Firefox 38esr.


I think I figured out the pattern of my crashes. It is happening when
there are foreign languages' characters like on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJomcfTgNZ8=1191 , http://google.cn ,
etc. Is there a way to block these foreign characters to avoid crashes?
It's not like I can read them. :(


FYI. 
https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/6f845258-9280-494a-a806-5628c2150906 
for a crash dump with a brand new profile and in safe mode. :(

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35!

[WaltS48]

On 09/06/2015 06:45 PM, Brian Mailman wrote:

humptydumpty wrote:

Edmund Wong wrote:

Dear All,

I'm just so stoked. (This isn't a normal release post as it's just way
to special.)

It is with great privilege and joy that I can announce to the world, the
SeaMonkey Project has just RELEASED SeaMonkey 2.35.

SeaMonkey 2.33.1 was released in March.  It's now September.  Yes, you
have all suffered the worries of vulnerabilities.  But worry no longer
for the *actual* release of SeaMonkey 2.35 has been pushed to the
server. Win32, Linux and OSX64!

The SeaMonkey Project team wishes to thank EVERYONE for their patience
with us while we get back into the flow.  While we aren't actually
'flowing' (right now, limping), we are determined to get things back
to normal, now that we KNOW we can get things done.

So update your copy now!

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/

PS: SeaMonkey 2.38b1 is the next release.


I'm stoked also because the issue regarding the viewing of binary files
in newsgroups has been fixed in this version. Running SM 2.35 on a
Windows 10 system.

Thanks to the team for their great work.


What issue regarding the viewing of binary files in newsgroups?

B/





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Re: Crash in my Windows XP Pro SP3 box with foreign characters. Re: SeaMonkey 2.35!

[WaltS48]

On 09/06/2015 07:21 PM, Ant wrote:

https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/c020cdb3-bcf8-41c4-89ce-016cb2150903

in a new SM profile with its defaults and no third party extensions.

https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/8a76830b-cee1-4a05-90fa-41b412150903


in safe mode with the new profile.


According to those links it is a known problem: Bug 1200021, reported
for Firefox 40 and Firefox 38esr.


I think I figured out the pattern of my crashes. It is happening when
there are foreign languages' characters like on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJomcfTgNZ8=1191 , http://google.cn ,
etc. Is there a way to block these foreign characters to avoid crashes?
It's not like I can read them. :(


FYI.
https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/6f845258-9280-494a-a806-5628c2150906
for a crash dump with a brand new profile and in safe mode. :(



And you don't believe the bug report listed in that crash report?

[1200021 – crash in 
mozilla::layers::ContentClientDoubleBuffered::FinalizeFrame(nsIntRegion 
const&)]




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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35 Release Notes Complements

[Ant]

On 9/6/2015 11:31 AM, David E. Ross wrote:


https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2015/09/06/seamonkey-2-35-release-notes-complements/



In th blog, the link to "List of bugs that still existed in 2:33
SeaMonkey, but are fixed in 2.35" gives a page that says "The search
named SM2.35 ReallyFixed does not exist."



Yeah, I saw that too. He needs to fix his typo(?). ;)
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Re: Crash in my Windows XP Pro SP3 box. Re: SeaMonkey 2.35!

[Ant]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJomcfTgNZ8=1191 crashes too. I wonder 
if it is because of the foreign characters. :(



On 9/3/2015 12:56 PM, Ant wrote:

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/ (hopefully only that web
page) crashes only one of my very old Windows XP Pro SP3 machine. :( I
was unable to reproduce it on another, but clean Windows XP Pro SP3
machine, in Debian oldstable/Linux and Mac OS X v10.8.5 machines. More
dumps in a new profile and its safe mode:

https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/c020cdb3-bcf8-41c4-89ce-016cb2150903
in a new SM profile with its defaults and no third party extensions.

https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/8a76830b-cee1-4a05-90fa-41b412150903
in safe mode with the new profile.

:(


On 9/3/2015 9:53 AM, Ant wrote:

Uh oh! Is anyone else getting SM crashes on
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/ web page with v2.35? Or is it
just me?
https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/77035408-ffbd-429b-a5f3-5fc112150903

for a dump. I hope this version isn't buggy and force me to downgrade
back to v2.33.1 :(



On 9/3/2015 8:14 AM, Edmund Wong wrote:

Dear All,

I'm just so stoked. (This isn't a normal release post as it's just way
to special.)

It is with great privilege and joy that I can announce to the world, the
SeaMonkey Project has just RELEASED SeaMonkey 2.35.

SeaMonkey 2.33.1 was released in March.  It's now September.  Yes, you
have all suffered the worries of vulnerabilities.  But worry no longer
for the *actual* release of SeaMonkey 2.35 has been pushed to the
server. Win32, Linux and OSX64!

The SeaMonkey Project team wishes to thank EVERYONE for their patience
with us while we get back into the flow.  While we aren't actually
'flowing' (right now, limping), we are determined to get things back
to normal, now that we KNOW we can get things done.

So update your copy now!

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/

PS: SeaMonkey 2.38b1 is the next release.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35!

[Brian Mailman]

humptydumpty wrote:

Edmund Wong wrote:

Dear All,

I'm just so stoked. (This isn't a normal release post as it's just way
to special.)

It is with great privilege and joy that I can announce to the world, the
SeaMonkey Project has just RELEASED SeaMonkey 2.35.

SeaMonkey 2.33.1 was released in March.  It's now September.  Yes, you
have all suffered the worries of vulnerabilities.  But worry no longer
for the *actual* release of SeaMonkey 2.35 has been pushed to the
server. Win32, Linux and OSX64!

The SeaMonkey Project team wishes to thank EVERYONE for their patience
with us while we get back into the flow.  While we aren't actually
'flowing' (right now, limping), we are determined to get things back
to normal, now that we KNOW we can get things done.

So update your copy now!

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/

PS: SeaMonkey 2.38b1 is the next release.


I'm stoked also because the issue regarding the viewing of binary files
in newsgroups has been fixed in this version. Running SM 2.35 on a
Windows 10 system.

Thanks to the team for their great work.


What issue regarding the viewing of binary files in newsgroups?

B/

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Re: Crash in my Windows XP Pro SP3 box with foreign characters. Re: SeaMonkey 2.35!

[Ant]

On 9/4/2015 2:21 AM, Stefan Sitter wrote:


https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/c020cdb3-bcf8-41c4-89ce-016cb2150903

in a new SM profile with its defaults and no third party extensions.

https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/8a76830b-cee1-4a05-90fa-41b412150903

in safe mode with the new profile.


According to those links it is a known problem: Bug 1200021, reported
for Firefox 40 and Firefox 38esr.


I think I figured out the pattern of my crashes. It is happening when 
there are foreign languages' characters like on 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJomcfTgNZ8=1191 , http://google.cn , 
etc. Is there a way to block these foreign characters to avoid crashes? 
It's not like I can read them. :(

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35!

[David E. Ross]

On 9/6/2015 4:16 PM, WaltS48 wrote:
> On 09/06/2015 06:45 PM, Brian Mailman wrote:
>> humptydumpty wrote:
>>> Edmund Wong wrote:
 Dear All,

 I'm just so stoked. (This isn't a normal release post as it's just way
 to special.)

 It is with great privilege and joy that I can announce to the world, the
 SeaMonkey Project has just RELEASED SeaMonkey 2.35.

 SeaMonkey 2.33.1 was released in March.  It's now September.  Yes, you
 have all suffered the worries of vulnerabilities.  But worry no longer
 for the *actual* release of SeaMonkey 2.35 has been pushed to the
 server. Win32, Linux and OSX64!

 The SeaMonkey Project team wishes to thank EVERYONE for their patience
 with us while we get back into the flow.  While we aren't actually
 'flowing' (right now, limping), we are determined to get things back
 to normal, now that we KNOW we can get things done.

 So update your copy now!

 http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/

 PS: SeaMonkey 2.38b1 is the next release.

>>> I'm stoked also because the issue regarding the viewing of binary files
>>> in newsgroups has been fixed in this version. Running SM 2.35 on a
>>> Windows 10 system.
>>>
>>> Thanks to the team for their great work.
>>
>> What issue regarding the viewing of binary files in newsgroups?
>>
>> B/
>>
> 
> 
> 

Some news servers strip away binaries from newsgroup messages except in
newsgroups that have "binary" in their names.  Other server simply block
such messages.  No code in a news reader application (e.g., SeaMonkey,
Thunderbird) can compensate for that.

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Re: Seamonkey 2.35 (linux x86-64) No more bookmarks

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Philippe Conde wrote:

> EE wrote:
> 
>> Philippe Conde wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I had Seamonkey 2.31 installed. I saved the installation folder under a
>>> new name.
>>> I downloaded the tar.bz archive and extracted it to a new folder.
>>> Starting the seamonkey 2.35 I see that the bookmarks are not more
>>> displayed only an empty folder is shown
>>>
>>> I reverted back to seamonkey2.31 and the boormarks are again visible.
>>>
>>> I have found a folder "bookmarkbackups" with a 1 or 10 file named like
>>> "bookmarks-2015-09-05_432_eq3uQe85vRg8yIrjHHCSyA==.jsonlz4"
>>>
>>> There exist also a bookmarks.html dated from 2015-09-01.
>>>
>>> Any idea how to retrieve/reinstall the bookmarks in seamonkey 2.35?
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Philippe
>>>
>> Open the bookmarks manager window, pull down the Tools menu, select
>> Restore, and restore that .jsonlz4 file.  That should put the bookmarks
>> back.
> 
> This works in seamonkey V2.31: Seamonkey propose the different save files.
> In Seamonkey 2.35 it doesn't propose any save files; If I try import from
> HTML format is doesn't works.
> 
> in see a lot of errors in the error console:
> 
> "Horodatage : 05/09/15 21:07:23
> Erreur : 1441480043324addons.manager  ERROR   Exception
> calling provider GMPProvider.startup: [Exception... "Component returned
> failure code: 0x80004005 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE)
> [nsIStringBundle.GetStringFromName]"  nsresult: "0x80004005
> (NS_ERROR_FAILURE)"  location: "JS frame ::
> resource://gre/modules/addons/GMPProvider.jsm ::
> GMPProvider.buildPluginList
> :: line 567"  data: no] Stack trace:
> 
GMPProvider.buildPluginList()@resource://gre/modules/addons/GMPProvider.jsm:567
> < GMPProvider.startup()@resource://gre/modules/addons/GMPProvider.jsm:456
> < callProvider()@resource://gre/modules/AddonManager.jsm:208 <
> _startProvider()@resource://gre/modules/AddonManager.jsm:669 <
> AMI_startup()@resource://gre/modules/AddonManager.jsm:840 <
> AMP_startup()@resource://gre/modules/AddonManager.jsm:2471 <
> AMC_observe()@resource://gre/components/addonManager.js:55 <
> Fichier Source : resource://gre/modules/Log.jsm
> Ligne : 749
> 
> Horodatage : 05/09/15 21:07:24
> Erreur : ReferenceError: PlacesUtils is not defined
> Fichier Source :
> chrome://communicator/content/places/browserPlacesViews.js Ligne : 41
> 
> Horodatage : 05/09/15 21:07:29
> Erreur : ReferenceError: PlacesUIUtils is not defined
> Fichier Source :
> chrome://communicator/content/bookmarks/bookmarksManager.js Ligne : 23"
> 
> Something is going wrong
> I'll first control my download.
> 
> Thanks for your answer. I learned something today about the bookmarks :-)
> 
> Philippe

Hello,

I think that the installation/migration to seamonkey V2.35 failed and let a 
profile unusable for seamonkey 2.35 but still usable by seamonkey 2.31

I solved this problem by moving back to seamonkey 2.31
- I removed all add-ons (add-block, lighning, belgian eid) and language pack
- I created a new profile with seamonkey 2.31. and copied therein:
-   my settings/preferences (pref.js and user.js), 
-   my cookies,(coockies.sqlite) and certifcate (cert8.db)
-   my logins and passwords (key3.db and login.json)
-   my mails (mail folder).
- I Imported in the new profile the bookmarls.html.

After checking that this new profile was fully correct I removed the old 
profile and switched to seamonkey2.35;

This time  the installation was succesfully and I have now a correct profile 
with all my data.

In the error console at startup ir had only this error.
"Error : DEPRECATION WARNING: PlacesBackups.getMostRecent is deprecated and 
will be removed in a future version
You may find more details about this deprecation at: 
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=859695
resource://gre/modules/PlacesBackups.jsm 263 PB_getMostRecent
resource://gre/components/nsSuiteGlue.js 912 
SuiteGlue.prototype._backupBookmarks
resource://gre/components/nsSuiteGlue.js 226 SuiteGlue.prototype.observe
null 0 null"


Regards
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35 Release Notes Complements

[David E. Ross]

On 9/6/2015 10:35 AM, Ant wrote:
> https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2015/09/06/seamonkey-2-35-release-notes-complements/
> 

In th blog, the link to "List of bugs that still existed in 2:33
SeaMonkey, but are fixed in 2.35" gives a page that says "The search
named SM2.35 ReallyFixed does not exist."

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Re: Crash? Re: SeaMonkey 2.35!

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Yamo' a écrit le 04/09/2015 10:59 :
> 
> Also no problem here.


It works fine.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35!

[Philipp van Hüllen]

Philipp van Hüllen schrieb:

*cheer*


1.5 days at work (Win7) and 3rd day at home (MacOS10.10): No problem 
seen, some fixes observed, and it actually feels faster/smoother at some 
points. Nice job. :-)


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35!

[EE]

NFN Smith wrote:

Ant wrote:

V2.35 fixed the e-mail composer's e-mail address orders. Hurray! :D



Plus the vertical lines marking threads in the mail/news client.  I'm
very pleased with that.

I'll be interested to see how quickly the various Linux distro
maintainers get their versions out. For ubuntuzilla, I'm accustomed to
seeing Seamonkey updates a little less than a week after the main release.

Smith


I am not seeing the vertical lines.  Of course, I use third-party 
themes, but I would still expect to see them.  I got used to not seeing 
them, so it is no big deal.


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Re: Seamonkey 2.35 (linux x86-64) No more bookmarks

[Philippe Conde]

EE wrote:

> Philippe Conde wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I had Seamonkey 2.31 installed. I saved the installation folder under a
>> new name.
>> I downloaded the tar.bz archive and extracted it to a new folder.
>> Starting the seamonkey 2.35 I see that the bookmarks are not more
>> displayed only an empty folder is shown
>>
>> I reverted back to seamonkey2.31 and the boormarks are again visible.
>>
>> I have found a folder "bookmarkbackups" with a 1 or 10 file named like
>> "bookmarks-2015-09-05_432_eq3uQe85vRg8yIrjHHCSyA==.jsonlz4"
>>
>> There exist also a bookmarks.html dated from 2015-09-01.
>>
>> Any idea how to retrieve/reinstall the bookmarks in seamonkey 2.35?
>>
>> Regards
>> Philippe
>>
> Open the bookmarks manager window, pull down the Tools menu, select
> Restore, and restore that .jsonlz4 file.  That should put the bookmarks
> back.

This works in seamonkey V2.31: Seamonkey propose the different save files.
In Seamonkey 2.35 it doesn't propose any save files; If I try import from 
HTML format is doesn't works.

in see a lot of errors in the error console: 

"Horodatage : 05/09/15 21:07:23
Erreur : 1441480043324  addons.manager  ERROR   Exception 
calling provider GMPProvider.startup: [Exception... "Component returned 
failure code: 0x80004005 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE) 
[nsIStringBundle.GetStringFromName]"  nsresult: "0x80004005 
(NS_ERROR_FAILURE)"  location: "JS frame :: 
resource://gre/modules/addons/GMPProvider.jsm :: GMPProvider.buildPluginList 
:: line 567"  data: no] Stack trace: 
GMPProvider.buildPluginList()@resource://gre/modules/addons/GMPProvider.jsm:567 
< GMPProvider.startup()@resource://gre/modules/addons/GMPProvider.jsm:456 < 
callProvider()@resource://gre/modules/AddonManager.jsm:208 < 
_startProvider()@resource://gre/modules/AddonManager.jsm:669 < 
AMI_startup()@resource://gre/modules/AddonManager.jsm:840 < 
AMP_startup()@resource://gre/modules/AddonManager.jsm:2471 < 
AMC_observe()@resource://gre/components/addonManager.js:55 < 
Fichier Source : resource://gre/modules/Log.jsm
Ligne : 749

Horodatage : 05/09/15 21:07:24
Erreur : ReferenceError: PlacesUtils is not defined
Fichier Source : chrome://communicator/content/places/browserPlacesViews.js
Ligne : 41

Horodatage : 05/09/15 21:07:29
Erreur : ReferenceError: PlacesUIUtils is not defined
Fichier Source : chrome://communicator/content/bookmarks/bookmarksManager.js
Ligne : 23"

Something is going wrong
I'll first control my download.

Thanks for your answer. I learned something today about the bookmarks :-)

Philippe



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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35 and extensions

[Cecil Bankston]

Wolf wrote:

Thanks a lot to the SeaMonkey Project team for their hard work to keep
SeaMonkey alive.

My question:
Will these extensions work with the new version of SeaMonkey 2.35:
*Lightning*, *PrefBar* and *BetterPrivacy Mod*?

Still waiting for Seamonkey 2.35 on UbuntuZilla.

Regards
Wolf


Lightning & PrefBar work.  I don't use BetterPrivacy.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35 and extensions

[Wolf]

Cecil Bankston schrieb:

Wolf wrote:

Thanks a lot to the SeaMonkey Project team for their hard work to keep
SeaMonkey alive.

My question:
Will these extensions work with the new version of SeaMonkey 2.35:
*Lightning*, *PrefBar* and *BetterPrivacy Mod*?

Still waiting for Seamonkey 2.35 on UbuntuZilla.

Regards
Wolf


Lightning & PrefBar work.  I don't use BetterPrivacy.


Thanks a lot Cecil,
BetterPrivacy anybody?

Regards
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35 and extensions

[EE]

Cecil Bankston wrote:

Wolf wrote:

Thanks a lot to the SeaMonkey Project team for their hard work to keep
SeaMonkey alive.

My question:
Will these extensions work with the new version of SeaMonkey 2.35:
*Lightning*, *PrefBar* and *BetterPrivacy Mod*?

Still waiting for Seamonkey 2.35 on UbuntuZilla.

Regards
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Lightning & PrefBar work.  I don't use BetterPrivacy.


BetterPrivacy seems to be working for me.

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Re: Seamonkey 2.35 (linux x86-64) No more bookmarks

[EE]

Philippe Conde wrote:

Hello,

I had Seamonkey 2.31 installed. I saved the installation folder under a new
name.
I downloaded the tar.bz archive and extracted it to a new folder.
Starting the seamonkey 2.35 I see that the bookmarks are not more displayed
only an empty folder is shown

I reverted back to seamonkey2.31 and the boormarks are again visible.

I have found a folder "bookmarkbackups" with a 1 or 10 file named like
"bookmarks-2015-09-05_432_eq3uQe85vRg8yIrjHHCSyA==.jsonlz4"

There exist also a bookmarks.html dated from 2015-09-01.

Any idea how to retrieve/reinstall the bookmarks in seamonkey 2.35?

Regards
Philippe

Open the bookmarks manager window, pull down the Tools menu, select 
Restore, and restore that .jsonlz4 file.  That should put the bookmarks 
back.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35 and extensions

[Wolf]

EE schrieb:

Cecil Bankston wrote:

Wolf wrote:

Thanks a lot to the SeaMonkey Project team for their hard work to keep
SeaMonkey alive.

My question:
Will these extensions work with the new version of SeaMonkey 2.35:
*Lightning*, *PrefBar* and *BetterPrivacy Mod*?

Still waiting for Seamonkey 2.35 on UbuntuZilla.

Regards
Wolf


Lightning & PrefBar work.  I don't use BetterPrivacy.


BetterPrivacy seems to be working for me.


I will try
Lightning 4.0.2 multilingual for SeaMonkey 2.35 – 2.35.*
PrefBar 7.0.0
BetterPrivacy Mod 1.68.m

Regards
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35 release notes

[WaltS48]

On 09/04/2015 01:18 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 9/3/2015 6:10 PM, WaltS48 wrote:

On 09/03/2015 08:44 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 9/3/2015 12:18 PM, EE wrote:

In the SM 2.35 release notes, it says:
After creating a news account through clicking a news URL, the MailNews
account wizard may be broken (the account type will always be News). To
work around the problem, set the mail.server.serverX.valid pref (where X
is the internal number of the corresponding news account) to true in
about:config.

There is no setting for "mail.server.serverX.valid" in about:config, for
either mail or newsgroups.  Why would you not just change
"mail.server.serverX.type" from nntp to pop3 (or imap)?



This is a 15-year-old bug, #41133.  See
, especially comment
#8.



And SeaMonkey 2.35 is affected? Last comment was made 2013-01-13.



I think the Mail-News component is affected, thus affecting both
SeaMonkey and Thunderbird.  The bug report was never closed.



So, if I enter the address in Firefox with Thunderbird open, and no 
mozilla news server configured it should create it like it does in 
SeaMonkey. Confirmed that SM 2.35 is still affected BTW.


I will test that later today

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Re: Crash in my Windows XP Pro SP3 box. Re: SeaMonkey 2.35!

[Stefan Sitter]

On 03.09.2015 21:56, Ant wrote:

https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/c020cdb3-bcf8-41c4-89ce-016cb2150903
in a new SM profile with its defaults and no third party extensions.

https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/8a76830b-cee1-4a05-90fa-41b412150903
in safe mode with the new profile.


According to those links it is a known problem: Bug 1200021, reported 
for Firefox 40 and Firefox 38esr.


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Re: Crash? Re: SeaMonkey 2.35!

[Yamo']

Hi,

Jonathan N. Little a écrit le 03/09/2015 21:06 :
> Ant wrote:
>> Uh oh! Is anyone else getting SM crashes on
>> http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/ web page with v2.35? Or is it
>> just me?
> 
> No problem here.



Also no problem here.


But with 2.39a1 and 2.35 I sometime send messages without any subject
when replying by mail or nntp!




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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35

[Robert Gault]

Finally the progress bar for mail and newsgroups is working correctly again. 
Yippee!

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35 release notes

[WaltS48]

On 09/04/2015 08:33 AM, WaltS48 wrote:

On 09/04/2015 01:18 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 9/3/2015 6:10 PM, WaltS48 wrote:

On 09/03/2015 08:44 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 9/3/2015 12:18 PM, EE wrote:

In the SM 2.35 release notes, it says:
After creating a news account through clicking a news URL, the
MailNews
account wizard may be broken (the account type will always be
News). To
work around the problem, set the mail.server.serverX.valid pref
(where X
is the internal number of the corresponding news account) to true in
about:config.

There is no setting for "mail.server.serverX.valid" in
about:config, for
either mail or newsgroups.  Why would you not just change
"mail.server.serverX.type" from nntp to pop3 (or imap)?



This is a 15-year-old bug, #41133.  See
, especially
comment
#8.



And SeaMonkey 2.35 is affected? Last comment was made 2013-01-13.



I think the Mail-News component is affected, thus affecting both
SeaMonkey and Thunderbird.  The bug report was never closed.



So, if I enter the address in Firefox with Thunderbird open, and no
mozilla news server configured it should create it like it does in
SeaMonkey. Confirmed that SM 2.35 is still affected BTW.

I will test that later today




Tested with Firefox 40.0.3 (new profile) and Thunderbird 38.2.0 (new 
profile). Both installed from my Software Management application.


Clicking the link in Comment 0 opens a Launch Application dialog box and 
doesn't create a newsgroup account in Thunderbird. Same with the link in 
Comment 8.


I only see the problem in SeaMonkey.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35!

[NFN Smith]

Ant wrote:

V2.35 fixed the e-mail composer's e-mail address orders. Hurray! :D



Plus the vertical lines marking threads in the mail/news client.  I'm 
very pleased with that.


I'll be interested to see how quickly the various Linux distro 
maintainers get their versions out. For ubuntuzilla, I'm accustomed to 
seeing Seamonkey updates a little less than a week after the main release.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35!

[Ant]

On 9/4/2015 7:59 AM, NFN Smith wrote:

Ant wrote:

V2.35 fixed the e-mail composer's e-mail address orders. Hurray! :D



Plus the vertical lines marking threads in the mail/news client.  I'm
very pleased with that.


Oh wow. I didn't even notice. Ha. Nice! Lots of good fixes in this late 
version.




I'll be interested to see how quickly the various Linux distro
maintainers get their versions out. For ubuntuzilla, I'm accustomed to
seeing Seamonkey updates a little less than a week after the main release.


Can you contact them about it? ;)
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35!

[Jonathan Wilson]

Thank you to all the people out there who do such great work keeping 
SeaMonkey (the one full-featured Windows FOSS browser out there that hasn't 
gone down the "we must copy Chrome for no good reason" route) alive and 
kicking.


As someone who started using this browser back when it was named Mozilla 
and had a version number starting with zero and who has been using it ever 
since, I applaud all the great work that is done on it (if I wasn't so busy 
these days, I would even pitch in and write some code myself :)


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35!

[Mexx Headroooommm]

THANK YOU !!! THANK YOU !!! THANK YOU !!! THANK YOU !!! THANK YOU !!!

greets
-Markus

Edmund Wong schrieb am 03.09.2015 um 17:14:
> Dear All,
> 
> I'm just so stoked. (This isn't a normal release post as it's just way
> to special.)
> 
> It is with great privilege and joy that I can announce to the world, the
> SeaMonkey Project has just RELEASED SeaMonkey 2.35.
> 
> SeaMonkey 2.33.1 was released in March.  It's now September.  Yes, you
> have all suffered the worries of vulnerabilities.  But worry no longer
> for the *actual* release of SeaMonkey 2.35 has been pushed to the
> server. Win32, Linux and OSX64!
> 
> The SeaMonkey Project team wishes to thank EVERYONE for their patience
> with us while we get back into the flow.  While we aren't actually
> 'flowing' (right now, limping), we are determined to get things back
> to normal, now that we KNOW we can get things done.
> 
> So update your copy now!
> 
> http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/
> 
> PS: SeaMonkey 2.38b1 is the next release.
> 

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35!

[Ant]

Ditto. Ha, I started since Netscape Communicator days after its 
Navigator days! I'm old! ;)



On 9/4/2015 12:48 AM, Jonathan Wilson wrote:

Thank you to all the people out there who do such great work keeping
SeaMonkey (the one full-featured Windows FOSS browser out there that
hasn't gone down the "we must copy Chrome for no good reason" route)
alive and kicking.

As someone who started using this browser back when it was named Mozilla
and had a version number starting with zero and who has been using it
ever since, I applaud all the great work that is done on it (if I wasn't
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35!

[Ant]

Thank you!!  I have not upgraded yet. :D


On 9/3/2015 8:14 AM, Edmund Wong wrote:

Dear All,

I'm just so stoked. (This isn't a normal release post as it's just way
to special.)

It is with great privilege and joy that I can announce to the world, the
SeaMonkey Project has just RELEASED SeaMonkey 2.35.

SeaMonkey 2.33.1 was released in March.  It's now September.  Yes, you
have all suffered the worries of vulnerabilities.  But worry no longer
for the *actual* release of SeaMonkey 2.35 has been pushed to the
server. Win32, Linux and OSX64!

The SeaMonkey Project team wishes to thank EVERYONE for their patience
with us while we get back into the flow.  While we aren't actually
'flowing' (right now, limping), we are determined to get things back
to normal, now that we KNOW we can get things done.

So update your copy now!

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/

PS: SeaMonkey 2.38b1 is the next release.




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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35!

[NFN Smith]

Edmund Wong wrote:

It is with great privilege and joy that I can announce to the world, the
SeaMonkey Project has just RELEASED SeaMonkey 2.35.


And there was great rejoicing...

Thanks for all your hard work, we really appreciate it.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35!

[Claus Schmidt]

Edmund Wong schrieb:

Dear All,

I'm just so stoked. (This isn't a normal release post as it's just way
to special.)

It is with great privilege and joy that I can announce to the world, the
SeaMonkey Project has just RELEASED SeaMonkey 2.35.

SeaMonkey 2.33.1 was released in March.  It's now September.  Yes, you
have all suffered the worries of vulnerabilities.  But worry no longer
for the *actual* release of SeaMonkey 2.35 has been pushed to the
server. Win32, Linux and OSX64!

The SeaMonkey Project team wishes to thank EVERYONE for their patience
with us while we get back into the flow.  While we aren't actually
'flowing' (right now, limping), we are determined to get things back
to normal, now that we KNOW we can get things done.

So update your copy now!

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/

PS: SeaMonkey 2.38b1 is the next release.


Yes, a great thanks.

Claus
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Re: Crash? Re: SeaMonkey 2.35!

[David E. Ross]

On 9/3/2015 9:53 AM, Ant wrote:
> Uh oh! Is anyone else getting SM crashes on 
> http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/ web page with v2.35? Or is it 
> just me? 
> https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/77035408-ffbd-429b-a5f3-5fc112150903
>  
> for a dump. I hope this version isn't buggy and force me to downgrade 
> back to v2.33.1 :(
> 
> 
> 
> On 9/3/2015 8:14 AM, Edmund Wong wrote:
>> Dear All,
>>
>> I'm just so stoked. (This isn't a normal release post as it's just way
>> to special.)
>>
>> It is with great privilege and joy that I can announce to the world, the
>> SeaMonkey Project has just RELEASED SeaMonkey 2.35.
>>
>> SeaMonkey 2.33.1 was released in March.  It's now September.  Yes, you
>> have all suffered the worries of vulnerabilities.  But worry no longer
>> for the *actual* release of SeaMonkey 2.35 has been pushed to the
>> server. Win32, Linux and OSX64!
>>
>> The SeaMonkey Project team wishes to thank EVERYONE for their patience
>> with us while we get back into the flow.  While we aren't actually
>> 'flowing' (right now, limping), we are determined to get things back
>> to normal, now that we KNOW we can get things done.
>>
>> So update your copy now!
>>
>> http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/
>>
>> PS: SeaMonkey 2.38b1 is the next release.
>>

See bugs at



This problem seems to appear only on the first launch of a profile after
updating SeaMonkey.  It did NOT appear for me when updating from the
contributed v.2.35 to the official v.2.35, which indicates that the
cause is somewhere in a preference or capability that was identical
between the contributed and official versions.

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Re: Crash? Re: SeaMonkey 2.35!

[Jonathan N. Little]

Ant wrote:

Uh oh! Is anyone else getting SM crashes on
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/ web page with v2.35? Or is it
just me?


No problem here.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35!

[EE]

Edmund Wong wrote:

Dear All,

I'm just so stoked. (This isn't a normal release post as it's just way
to special.)

It is with great privilege and joy that I can announce to the world, the
SeaMonkey Project has just RELEASED SeaMonkey 2.35.

SeaMonkey 2.33.1 was released in March.  It's now September.  Yes, you
have all suffered the worries of vulnerabilities.  But worry no longer
for the *actual* release of SeaMonkey 2.35 has been pushed to the
server. Win32, Linux and OSX64!

The SeaMonkey Project team wishes to thank EVERYONE for their patience
with us while we get back into the flow.  While we aren't actually
'flowing' (right now, limping), we are determined to get things back
to normal, now that we KNOW we can get things done.

So update your copy now!

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/

PS: SeaMonkey 2.38b1 is the next release.


Hooray!!  Build 3 works, but I like official releases.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35!

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*cheer*
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35!

[Roger Fink]

 Original Message 

Dear All,

I'm just so stoked. (This isn't a normal release post as it's just way
to special.)

It is with great privilege and joy that I can announce to the world, the
SeaMonkey Project has just RELEASED SeaMonkey 2.35.

SeaMonkey 2.33.1 was released in March.  It's now September.  Yes, you
have all suffered the worries of vulnerabilities.  But worry no longer
for the *actual* release of SeaMonkey 2.35 has been pushed to the
server. Win32, Linux and OSX64!

The SeaMonkey Project team wishes to thank EVERYONE for their patience
with us while we get back into the flow.  While we aren't actually
'flowing' (right now, limping), we are determined to get things back
to normal, now that we KNOW we can get things done.

So update your copy now!

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/

PS: SeaMonkey 2.38b1 is the next release.

Hi - I installed it this a.m. from Major Geeks (it links to your 
download)and the executable installed in my Win7-32 Roaming profile so 
I'm waiting to hear confirmation that it is installing in Program Files 
before I try again. Thanks for all your hard work.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35!

[Roger Fink]

 Original Message 

 Original Message 

Dear All,

I'm just so stoked. (This isn't a normal release post as it's just way
to special.)

It is with great privilege and joy that I can announce to the world, the
SeaMonkey Project has just RELEASED SeaMonkey 2.35.

SeaMonkey 2.33.1 was released in March.  It's now September.  Yes, you
have all suffered the worries of vulnerabilities.  But worry no longer
for the *actual* release of SeaMonkey 2.35 has been pushed to the
server. Win32, Linux and OSX64!

The SeaMonkey Project team wishes to thank EVERYONE for their patience
with us while we get back into the flow.  While we aren't actually
'flowing' (right now, limping), we are determined to get things back
to normal, now that we KNOW we can get things done.

So update your copy now!

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/

PS: SeaMonkey 2.38b1 is the next release.


Hi - I installed it this a.m. from Major Geeks (it links to your
download)and the executable installed in my Win7-32 Roaming profile so
I'm waiting to hear confirmation that it is installing in Program Files
before I try again. Thanks for all your hard work.

Note that it created a second version (i.e. 2.35, in add-remove) so 
uninstalling it from there left the previous version, 2.33.1 intact

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35!

[NoOp]

On 9/3/2015 8:14 AM, Edmund Wong wrote:
> Dear All,
> 
> I'm just so stoked. (This isn't a normal release post as it's just way
> to special.)
> 
> It is with great privilege and joy that I can announce to the world, the
> SeaMonkey Project has just RELEASED SeaMonkey 2.35.
> 
> SeaMonkey 2.33.1 was released in March.  It's now September.  Yes, you
> have all suffered the worries of vulnerabilities.  But worry no longer
> for the *actual* release of SeaMonkey 2.35 has been pushed to the
> server. Win32, Linux and OSX64!
> 
> The SeaMonkey Project team wishes to thank EVERYONE for their patience
> with us while we get back into the flow.  While we aren't actually
> 'flowing' (right now, limping), we are determined to get things back
> to normal, now that we KNOW we can get things done.
> 
> So update your copy now!
> 
> http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/
> 
> PS: SeaMonkey 2.38b1 is the next release.
> 


Congratulations & as always - thanks for all of your hard work Edmund &
SeaMonkey team!


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Crash? Re: SeaMonkey 2.35!

[Ant]

Uh oh! Is anyone else getting SM crashes on 
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/ web page with v2.35? Or is it 
just me? 
https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/77035408-ffbd-429b-a5f3-5fc112150903 
for a dump. I hope this version isn't buggy and force me to downgrade 
back to v2.33.1 :(




On 9/3/2015 8:14 AM, Edmund Wong wrote:

Dear All,

I'm just so stoked. (This isn't a normal release post as it's just way
to special.)

It is with great privilege and joy that I can announce to the world, the
SeaMonkey Project has just RELEASED SeaMonkey 2.35.

SeaMonkey 2.33.1 was released in March.  It's now September.  Yes, you
have all suffered the worries of vulnerabilities.  But worry no longer
for the *actual* release of SeaMonkey 2.35 has been pushed to the
server. Win32, Linux and OSX64!

The SeaMonkey Project team wishes to thank EVERYONE for their patience
with us while we get back into the flow.  While we aren't actually
'flowing' (right now, limping), we are determined to get things back
to normal, now that we KNOW we can get things done.

So update your copy now!

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/

PS: SeaMonkey 2.38b1 is the next release.


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Re: Crash in my Windows XP Pro SP3 box. Re: SeaMonkey 2.35!

[Ant]

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/ (hopefully only that web 
page) crashes only one of my very old Windows XP Pro SP3 machine. :( I 
was unable to reproduce it on another, but clean Windows XP Pro SP3 
machine, in Debian oldstable/Linux and Mac OS X v10.8.5 machines. More 
dumps in a new profile and its safe mode:


https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/c020cdb3-bcf8-41c4-89ce-016cb2150903 
in a new SM profile with its defaults and no third party extensions.


https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/8a76830b-cee1-4a05-90fa-41b412150903 
in safe mode with the new profile.


:(


On 9/3/2015 9:53 AM, Ant wrote:

Uh oh! Is anyone else getting SM crashes on
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/ web page with v2.35? Or is it
just me?
https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/77035408-ffbd-429b-a5f3-5fc112150903
for a dump. I hope this version isn't buggy and force me to downgrade
back to v2.33.1 :(



On 9/3/2015 8:14 AM, Edmund Wong wrote:

Dear All,

I'm just so stoked. (This isn't a normal release post as it's just way
to special.)

It is with great privilege and joy that I can announce to the world, the
SeaMonkey Project has just RELEASED SeaMonkey 2.35.

SeaMonkey 2.33.1 was released in March.  It's now September.  Yes, you
have all suffered the worries of vulnerabilities.  But worry no longer
for the *actual* release of SeaMonkey 2.35 has been pushed to the
server. Win32, Linux and OSX64!

The SeaMonkey Project team wishes to thank EVERYONE for their patience
with us while we get back into the flow.  While we aren't actually
'flowing' (right now, limping), we are determined to get things back
to normal, now that we KNOW we can get things done.

So update your copy now!

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/

PS: SeaMonkey 2.38b1 is the next release.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35 release notes

[NoOp]

On 9/3/2015 12:18 PM, EE wrote:
> In the SM 2.35 release notes, it says:
> After creating a news account through clicking a news URL, the MailNews 
> account wizard may be broken (the account type will always be News). To 
> work around the problem, set the mail.server.serverX.valid pref (where X 
> is the internal number of the corresponding news account) to true in 
> about:config.
> 
> There is no setting for "mail.server.serverX.valid" in about:config, for 
> either mail or newsgroups.  Why would you not just change 

"(where X is the internal number of the corresponding news account) to
true in about:config"

mail.identity.id1.valid;true

> "mail.server.serverX.type" from nntp to pop3 (or imap)?
> 

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35!

[humptydumpty]

Edmund Wong wrote:

Dear All,

I'm just so stoked. (This isn't a normal release post as it's just way
to special.)

It is with great privilege and joy that I can announce to the world, the
SeaMonkey Project has just RELEASED SeaMonkey 2.35.

SeaMonkey 2.33.1 was released in March.  It's now September.  Yes, you
have all suffered the worries of vulnerabilities.  But worry no longer
for the *actual* release of SeaMonkey 2.35 has been pushed to the
server. Win32, Linux and OSX64!

The SeaMonkey Project team wishes to thank EVERYONE for their patience
with us while we get back into the flow.  While we aren't actually
'flowing' (right now, limping), we are determined to get things back
to normal, now that we KNOW we can get things done.

So update your copy now!

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/

PS: SeaMonkey 2.38b1 is the next release.

I'm stoked also because the issue regarding the viewing of binary files 
in newsgroups has been fixed in this version. Running SM 2.35 on a 
Windows 10 system.


Thanks to the team for their great work.

Bill
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35 release notes

[David E. Ross]

On 9/3/2015 12:18 PM, EE wrote:
> In the SM 2.35 release notes, it says:
> After creating a news account through clicking a news URL, the MailNews 
> account wizard may be broken (the account type will always be News). To 
> work around the problem, set the mail.server.serverX.valid pref (where X 
> is the internal number of the corresponding news account) to true in 
> about:config.
> 
> There is no setting for "mail.server.serverX.valid" in about:config, for 
> either mail or newsgroups.  Why would you not just change 
> "mail.server.serverX.type" from nntp to pop3 (or imap)?
> 

This is a 15-year-old bug, #41133.  See
, especially comment
#8.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35 release notes

[David E. Ross]

On 9/3/2015 6:10 PM, WaltS48 wrote:
> On 09/03/2015 08:44 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 9/3/2015 12:18 PM, EE wrote:
>>> In the SM 2.35 release notes, it says:
>>> After creating a news account through clicking a news URL, the MailNews
>>> account wizard may be broken (the account type will always be News). To
>>> work around the problem, set the mail.server.serverX.valid pref (where X
>>> is the internal number of the corresponding news account) to true in
>>> about:config.
>>>
>>> There is no setting for "mail.server.serverX.valid" in about:config, for
>>> either mail or newsgroups.  Why would you not just change
>>> "mail.server.serverX.type" from nntp to pop3 (or imap)?
>>>
>>
>> This is a 15-year-old bug, #41133.  See
>> , especially comment
>> #8.
>>
> 
> And SeaMonkey 2.35 is affected? Last comment was made 2013-01-13.
> 

I think the Mail-News component is affected, thus affecting both
SeaMonkey and Thunderbird.  The bug report was never closed.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35 release notes

[WaltS48]

On 09/03/2015 08:44 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 9/3/2015 12:18 PM, EE wrote:

In the SM 2.35 release notes, it says:
After creating a news account through clicking a news URL, the MailNews
account wizard may be broken (the account type will always be News). To
work around the problem, set the mail.server.serverX.valid pref (where X
is the internal number of the corresponding news account) to true in
about:config.

There is no setting for "mail.server.serverX.valid" in about:config, for
either mail or newsgroups.  Why would you not just change
"mail.server.serverX.type" from nntp to pop3 (or imap)?



This is a 15-year-old bug, #41133.  See
, especially comment
#8.



And SeaMonkey 2.35 is affected? Last comment was made 2013-01-13.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35!

[NoOp]

On 9/3/2015 8:14 AM, Edmund Wong wrote:
> Dear All,
> 
> I'm just so stoked. (This isn't a normal release post as it's just way
> to special.)
> 
> It is with great privilege and joy that I can announce to the world, the
> SeaMonkey Project has just RELEASED SeaMonkey 2.35.
> 
> SeaMonkey 2.33.1 was released in March.  It's now September.  Yes, you
> have all suffered the worries of vulnerabilities.  But worry no longer
> for the *actual* release of SeaMonkey 2.35 has been pushed to the
> server. Win32, Linux and OSX64!
> 
> The SeaMonkey Project team wishes to thank EVERYONE for their patience
> with us while we get back into the flow.  While we aren't actually
> 'flowing' (right now, limping), we are determined to get things back
> to normal, now that we KNOW we can get things done.
> 
> So update your copy now!
> 
> http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/
> 
> PS: SeaMonkey 2.38b1 is the next release.
> 

Thanks again.


Working fine ***After removing the suggested 'update Lightning 4.0b6' in
the Windows updates and reinstalling the correct 4.0.2 version
(see:
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Calendar/Calendar_Versions):

Windows 10 64 bit
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/38.0 SeaMonkey/2.35
Build identifier: 20150827182544

Windows 10 32 bit
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/38.0 SeaMonkey/2.35
Build identifier: 20150827182544

Ubuntu 15.04 & 14.04 64 bit
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/38.0 SeaMonkey/2.35
Build identifier: 20150825182814
(thanks to Adrian)

Ubuntu 15.04 32 bit
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/38.0 SeaMonkey/2.35
Build identifier: 20150825182728






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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35!

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35!

[Paul Bergsagel]

Edmund Wong wrote:

Dear All,

I'm just so stoked. (This isn't a normal release post as it's just way
to special.)

It is with great privilege and joy that I can announce to the world, the
SeaMonkey Project has just RELEASED SeaMonkey 2.35.

SeaMonkey 2.33.1 was released in March.  It's now September.  Yes, you
have all suffered the worries of vulnerabilities.  But worry no longer
for the *actual* release of SeaMonkey 2.35 has been pushed to the
server. Win32, Linux and OSX64!

The SeaMonkey Project team wishes to thank EVERYONE for their patience
with us while we get back into the flow.  While we aren't actually
'flowing' (right now, limping), we are determined to get things back
to normal, now that we KNOW we can get things done.

So update your copy now!

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/

PS: SeaMonkey 2.38b1 is the next release.


Just upgraded my 2006 iMac OS 10.7.5

So far no issues, no crashes. A good update.

Thanks to all who worked so hard to make the release of 2.35 happen. Whooot!
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35

[EE]

zeroleft wrote:


Just by taking a look at
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/, you
could think that Adrian Kalla will not provide any more binaries for
SeaMonkey on Linux 32-bits...


Have you looked at 
https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/2.35-candidates/build3/ 
?


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35

[NoOp]

On 9/1/2015 2:38 PM, NoOp wrote:
> On 9/1/2015 8:13 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
>> Gordon Weast wrote:
>>> By default, Ubuntu 64 bit doesn't install the 32 bit runtime.  Now, even
>>> after trying to find all the libraries in 32 bit form through the Ubuntu
>>> installer, I can't run the 32 bit Seamonkey.  There is a library it
>>> attempts to load that I can't find in 32 bit form for Ubuntu.  I hope
>>> we'll see a 64 bit build of 2.35 soon after the 32 bit mainline.  I have
>>> the machine setup to use the same profile on both Win7 and Linux.
>>> Having Windows using 2.35 and Linux use 2.33 will keep showing me the
>>> Seamonkey welcome to new version screen.
>> 
>> 
>> Generally when installing a 32-bit application on 64-bit Ubuntu all you 
>> have to do to install the missing 32-bit library dependancies is
>> 
>> sudo apt-get install -f
>> 
> 
> Actually it is no longer that easy...
> 
> 
> I already had i386 multiarch installed on Ubuntu 15.04 64bit, I still
> ended up having to install the bits mentioned in here:
> 
> libxul.so:
> libXrender.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
> Couldn't load XPCOM
> 
> You can see some of the work here:
> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/12248722/
> 
> Thanks again Adrian for your 64bit builds!!
> 
> G
> 
> 
> 

Sorry forgot to add the 32bit UI:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:36.0)
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/36.0 SeaMonkey/2.33.1
Build identifier: 20150321194732

vs the 64bit version on the same machine:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/36.0 SeaMonkey/2.33.1
Build identifier: 20150321194827


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35

[NoOp]

On 9/1/2015 8:13 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
> Gordon Weast wrote:
>> By default, Ubuntu 64 bit doesn't install the 32 bit runtime.  Now, even
>> after trying to find all the libraries in 32 bit form through the Ubuntu
>> installer, I can't run the 32 bit Seamonkey.  There is a library it
>> attempts to load that I can't find in 32 bit form for Ubuntu.  I hope
>> we'll see a 64 bit build of 2.35 soon after the 32 bit mainline.  I have
>> the machine setup to use the same profile on both Win7 and Linux.
>> Having Windows using 2.35 and Linux use 2.33 will keep showing me the
>> Seamonkey welcome to new version screen.
> 
> 
> Generally when installing a 32-bit application on 64-bit Ubuntu all you 
> have to do to install the missing 32-bit library dependancies is
> 
> sudo apt-get install -f
> 

Actually it is no longer that easy...


I already had i386 multiarch installed on Ubuntu 15.04 64bit, I still
ended up having to install the bits mentioned in here:

libxul.so:
libXrender.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
Couldn't load XPCOM

You can see some of the work here:
http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/12248722/

Thanks again Adrian for your 64bit builds!!

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35

[Adrian Kalla]

W dniu 09/01/2015 o 12:11 AM, zeroleft pisze:
> But, and I believe it's something similar for others, is because when a
> machine has only 2GB of ram, (and life circumstances do not allow, at
> this time, for memory upgrade or for simply buy a new PC), it probably
> would be counterproductive try to run a 64-bit system in such modest
> hardware.

I think it is unlikely you would loose perceived performance when
switching to 64 bit. But of course you would also not gain any.
On the other hand, your system would be compatible with all 32 and 64
bit applications.


W dniu 08/31/2015 o 10:10 PM, zeroleft pisze:
> Just by taking a look at
>
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/, you
> could think that Adrian Kalla will not provide any more binaries for
> SeaMonkey on Linux 32-bits...

You are right. There are four reasons why I needed to abandon 32 bit
Linux builds:
1. My CentOS 6 32bit virtual machine did get corrupted, and as I found
out, I had no backup of it.
2. My builds were taking too much space on the L10n server.
3. I needed CPU and RAM resources for Windows builds.
4. And the ultimate reason is Mozilla's switch to GTK3: there is no GTK3
for CentOS6 available (Mozilla seems to have produced own packages, but
afaics, they can't be found anywhere publicly - which is BTW a really
big shame, since there is now also no way to build an exact one-to-one
build to check, if Mozilla did have to include something in their builds
because of a National Security Letter...).
And there is no 32 bit version of RHEL7/CentOS7, which needs to be used
for SM 2.39+ builds (and my cross compile tries failed, and I have no
more time to invest into this issue).


-> 32 bit is dead. Long live 64 bit.
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35

[Jonathan N. Little]

Gordon Weast wrote:

By default, Ubuntu 64 bit doesn't install the 32 bit runtime.  Now, even
after trying to find all the libraries in 32 bit form through the Ubuntu
installer, I can't run the 32 bit Seamonkey.  There is a library it
attempts to load that I can't find in 32 bit form for Ubuntu.  I hope
we'll see a 64 bit build of 2.35 soon after the 32 bit mainline.  I have
the machine setup to use the same profile on both Win7 and Linux.
Having Windows using 2.35 and Linux use 2.33 will keep showing me the
Seamonkey welcome to new version screen.



Generally when installing a 32-bit application on 64-bit Ubuntu all you 
have to do to install the missing 32-bit library dependancies is


sudo apt-get install -f

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35

[Gordon Weast]

Adrian Kalla wrote:

W dniu 09/01/2015 o 12:11 AM, zeroleft pisze:

But, and I believe it's something similar for others, is because when a
machine has only 2GB of ram, (and life circumstances do not allow, at
this time, for memory upgrade or for simply buy a new PC), it probably
would be counterproductive try to run a 64-bit system in such modest
hardware.


I think it is unlikely you would loose perceived performance when
switching to 64 bit. But of course you would also not gain any.
On the other hand, your system would be compatible with all 32 and 64
bit applications.


W dniu 08/31/2015 o 10:10 PM, zeroleft pisze:

Just by taking a look at


https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/, you

could think that Adrian Kalla will not provide any more binaries for
SeaMonkey on Linux 32-bits...


You are right. There are four reasons why I needed to abandon 32 bit
Linux builds:
1. My CentOS 6 32bit virtual machine did get corrupted, and as I found
out, I had no backup of it.
2. My builds were taking too much space on the L10n server.
3. I needed CPU and RAM resources for Windows builds.
4. And the ultimate reason is Mozilla's switch to GTK3: there is no GTK3
for CentOS6 available (Mozilla seems to have produced own packages, but
afaics, they can't be found anywhere publicly - which is BTW a really
big shame, since there is now also no way to build an exact one-to-one
build to check, if Mozilla did have to include something in their builds
because of a National Security Letter...).
And there is no 32 bit version of RHEL7/CentOS7, which needs to be used
for SM 2.39+ builds (and my cross compile tries failed, and I have no
more time to invest into this issue).


-> 32 bit is dead. Long live 64 bit.



One reason I have for still wanting a 32 bit version is on an auxiliary 
machine I use in my ham shack.  That one is still a 32 bit 
hyper-threaded machine.  Quite adequate for the purpose and I can't 
justify the cost of a newer machine.  I only boot Linux on it, for the 
most part, even though there is still an XP partition that rarely gets 
used.  I have the XP marked as a POS terminal, so it does still get some 
security updates!


On the other hand, on my main machine which is 64 bit, I dual boot 
between Windows 7/64 and Ubuntu 14.04/64.  By default, Ubuntu 64 bit 
doesn't install the 32 bit runtime.  Now, even after trying to find all 
the libraries in 32 bit form through the Ubuntu installer, I can't run 
the 32 bit Seamonkey.  There is a library it attempts to load that I 
can't find in 32 bit form for Ubuntu.  I hope we'll see a 64 bit build 
of 2.35 soon after the 32 bit mainline.  I have the machine setup to use 
the same profile on both Win7 and Linux.  Having Windows using 2.35 and 
Linux use 2.33 will keep showing me the Seamonkey welcome to new version 
screen.


So, I still have a desire to see both 32 and 64 bit versions.

Gordon
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35

[zeroleft]

Just by taking a look at  
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/, you  
could think that Adrian Kalla will not provide any more binaries for  
SeaMonkey on Linux 32-bits...



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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35

[zeroleft]

On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 17:16:29 -0300, Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP]
wrote:
“Well, if you believe the Fedora folks
(http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item=fedora-24-i686-demotion),
32-bit will soon be dead.”

By chance, I'm a Debian user, even if a not very good at it!

In any case, the reason why I remain under a 32-bit OS, is not the  
lack of a modern processor (my Intel E5400 maybe would be good enough).

http://ark.intel.com/products/40478/Intel-Pentium-Processor-E5400-2M-Cache-2_70-GHz-800-MHz-FSB

But, and I believe it's something similar for others, is because when  
a machine has only 2GB of ram, (and life circumstances do not allow,  
at this time, for memory upgrade or for simply buy a new PC), it  
probably would be counterproductive try to run a 64-bit system in such  
modest hardware.


But anyway, I do not want to get off the subject ...


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35

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On 8/27/2015 4:05 PM, Isaac Schemm wrote:
...

2.35 will be based off of the Firefox 38 (extended support release)
branch. This is why they chose 2.35 instead of 2.34 or 2.36 as the
release to focus on - they automatically get Mozilla's ESR security fixes.


Do I assume we're not getting any more security fixes if v2.35 keeps 
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35

[Isaac Schemm]

Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] wrote:

On Fri, 21 Aug 2015 16:54:52 +0800, Edmund Wong ew...@pw-wspx.org
wrote:


Hi Everyone,

As I mentioned on the blog, I have started spinning up the
release for SeaMonkey 2.35. ('About time!' someone says.)

In the past, I would say on the release bug when the ETA is,
but due to the fact that we are doing this semi-automatically
(Win32 builds and repacks are manually done), and that there
are changes to the infra code, we expect to have some bustages.
This means delay; but considering everyone's been
waiting for it for months on end, a few days of
delay won't make any difference (I hope. :P ).

Again, I really want to thank everyone's patience while
we play catch up.

Edmund


While it looks like the first two build bombed out, I see the third
build has gotten a lot farther. Fingers crossed. So is 2.35 intending
to be based off FF40?

- Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP]

2.35 will be based off of the Firefox 38 (extended support release) 
branch. This is why they chose 2.35 instead of 2.34 or 2.36 as the 
release to focus on - they automatically get Mozilla's ESR security fixes.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35

[EE]

Edmund Wong wrote:

EE wrote:


Version 2.35 for Mac OS and Linux was ready weeks ago.  I thought the
delay was because of Windows?  Or are you still fixing the more obscure
bugs?



I'm not sure I understand this.  Version 2.35 couldn't have been ready,
since we're still trying to get them built right now.

Are you talking about the 'contributed' builds?

Edmund

I found 2.35 in Tinderbox-builds  comm-release-macosx64.  It worked 
fine. I noticed at the time that the Linux version was also available 
but not the Windows version.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35

[Rainer Bielefeld]

Hi Edmund,

Bug 1177045 - (SM235-RELNOTE) Create/Update 2.35 Release Notes
  https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1177045
still is not assigned, and (may be intendedly). Can we be sure that 
someone will take care?


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35

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On 8/21/2015 7:19 PM, Edmund Wong wrote:


Also, what's the URL to this blog?


https://blog.seamonkey-project.org


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35

[Ant]

On 8/21/2015 1:54 AM, Edmund Wong wrote:

Hi Everyone,

As I mentioned on the blog, I have started spinning up the
release for SeaMonkey 2.35. ('About time!' someone says.)

In the past, I would say on the release bug when the ETA is,
but due to the fact that we are doing this semi-automatically
(Win32 builds and repacks are manually done), and that there
are changes to the infra code, we expect to have some bustages.
This means delay; but considering everyone's been
waiting for it for months on end, a few days of
delay won't make any difference (I hope. :P ).

Again, I really want to thank everyone's patience while
we play catch up.


Thanks for the updates again, Edmund! :)
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35

[Ant]

Also, what's the URL to this blog?


On 8/21/2015 1:54 AM, Edmund Wong wrote:

Hi Everyone,

As I mentioned on the blog, I have started spinning up the
release for SeaMonkey 2.35. ('About time!' someone says.)

In the past, I would say on the release bug when the ETA is,
but due to the fact that we are doing this semi-automatically
(Win32 builds and repacks are manually done), and that there
are changes to the infra code, we expect to have some bustages.
This means delay; but considering everyone's been
waiting for it for months on end, a few days of
delay won't make any difference (I hope. :P ).

Again, I really want to thank everyone's patience while
we play catch up.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35

[EE]

Edmund Wong wrote:

Hi Everyone,

As I mentioned on the blog, I have started spinning up the
release for SeaMonkey 2.35. ('About time!' someone says.)

In the past, I would say on the release bug when the ETA is,
but due to the fact that we are doing this semi-automatically
(Win32 builds and repacks are manually done), and that there
are changes to the infra code, we expect to have some bustages.
This means delay; but considering everyone's been
waiting for it for months on end, a few days of
delay won't make any difference (I hope. :P ).

Again, I really want to thank everyone's patience while
we play catch up.

Edmund

Version 2.35 for Mac OS and Linux was ready weeks ago.  I thought the 
delay was because of Windows?  Or are you still fixing the more obscure 
bugs?


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35

[Claus Schmidt]

Edmund Wong schrieb:

Hi Everyone,

As I mentioned on the blog, I have started spinning up the
release for SeaMonkey 2.35. ('About time!' someone says.)

In the past, I would say on the release bug when the ETA is,
but due to the fact that we are doing this semi-automatically
(Win32 builds and repacks are manually done), and that there
are changes to the infra code, we expect to have some bustages.
This means delay; but considering everyone's been
waiting for it for months on end, a few days of
delay won't make any difference (I hope. :P ).

Again, I really want to thank everyone's patience while
we play catch up.


Thanks,

I hope Seamonkey goes on for a long time.

Claus

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35

[Edmund Wong]

Ant wrote:
 Also, what's the URL to this blog?
 

https://blog.seamonkey-project.org


Edmund
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35

[Edmund Wong]

EE wrote:

 Version 2.35 for Mac OS and Linux was ready weeks ago.  I thought the
 delay was because of Windows?  Or are you still fixing the more obscure
 bugs?
 

I'm not sure I understand this.  Version 2.35 couldn't have been ready,
since we're still trying to get them built right now.

Are you talking about the 'contributed' builds?

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35..

[W3BNR]

On 8/6/2015 8:44 AM, Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] wrote:
 On Thu, 6 Aug 2015 20:52:47 +1000, David Cox bernar...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 On 6/08/2015 6:18 AM, Rob Steinmetz wrote:
 Edmund Wong wrote:
 Hi,

 I regret to be the bearer of bad news; but as it stands,
 the worst case scenario (and likely the actual case) is that 2.35 is
 not going to be released in July.

 The new goal is to release it in early August.

 The past month has been mired in fire-fighting bustages,
 getting repacks and builds working (as of this writing,
 trunk is busted) as well as the need to get the backend
 buildbot code updated to reflect that we no longer depend
 on CVS.

 I apologize for the delay and thank everyone for your
 patience.

 Edmund

 Thanks for the update. At this point I'd rather wait until things get
 sorted out than rush into an unstable situation.
 FWIW I've been running Callek's contributed win32 2.35 build for a 
 couple of weeks with no issues. But then, I have a pretty simple setup 
 with few addons but do mix POP and Imap mail servers.
 
 I was running that for a while with good luck as well. I've had good
 luck with a 2.36 contrib build from here:
 https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/
 I won't be sad if 2.34  2.36 is skipped in favor of a 2.37 build to
 be in parity with FF40.
 
 - Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP]
 

I too played with 2.35 and 2.36 (54) without problems, but just in case there
may be problems that did not affect what I do, I'm back here on 2.33.1.

An apparently all my add-ons worked.  I manually changed some of them to work
with all versions of 2.*

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35..

[David Cox]

On 6/08/2015 6:18 AM, Rob Steinmetz wrote:

Edmund Wong wrote:

Hi,

I regret to be the bearer of bad news; but as it stands,
the worst case scenario (and likely the actual case) is that 2.35 is
not going to be released in July.

The new goal is to release it in early August.

The past month has been mired in fire-fighting bustages,
getting repacks and builds working (as of this writing,
trunk is busted) as well as the need to get the backend
buildbot code updated to reflect that we no longer depend
on CVS.

I apologize for the delay and thank everyone for your
patience.

Edmund


Thanks for the update. At this point I'd rather wait until things get
sorted out than rush into an unstable situation.
FWIW I've been running Callek's contributed win32 2.35 build for a 
couple of weeks with no issues. But then, I have a pretty simple setup 
with few addons but do mix POP and Imap mail servers.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35..

[GerardJan]

Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] wrote:

On Thu, 6 Aug 2015 20:52:47 +1000, David Cox bernar...@gmail.com
wrote:


On 6/08/2015 6:18 AM, Rob Steinmetz wrote:

Edmund Wong wrote:

Hi,

I regret to be the bearer of bad news; but as it stands,
the worst case scenario (and likely the actual case) is that 2.35 is
not going to be released in July.

The new goal is to release it in early August.

The past month has been mired in fire-fighting bustages,
getting repacks and builds working (as of this writing,
trunk is busted) as well as the need to get the backend
buildbot code updated to reflect that we no longer depend
on CVS.

I apologize for the delay and thank everyone for your
patience.

Edmund


Thanks for the update. At this point I'd rather wait until things get
sorted out than rush into an unstable situation.

FWIW I've been running Callek's contributed win32 2.35 build for a
couple of weeks with no issues. But then, I have a pretty simple setup
with few addons but do mix POP and Imap mail servers.


I was running that for a while with good luck as well. I've had good
luck with a 2.36 contrib build from here:
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/
I won't be sad if 2.34  2.36 is skipped in favor of a 2.37 build to
be in parity with FF40.

- Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP]



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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35..

[Rob Steinmetz]

Edmund Wong wrote:

Hi,

I regret to be the bearer of bad news; but as it stands,
the worst case scenario (and likely the actual case) is that 2.35 is
not going to be released in July.

The new goal is to release it in early August.

The past month has been mired in fire-fighting bustages,
getting repacks and builds working (as of this writing,
trunk is busted) as well as the need to get the backend
buildbot code updated to reflect that we no longer depend
on CVS.

I apologize for the delay and thank everyone for your
patience.

Edmund

Thanks for the update. At this point I'd rather wait until things get 
sorted out than rush into an unstable situation.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35..

[John Duncan]

Edmund Wong wrote:

Hi,

I regret to be the bearer of bad news; but as it stands,
the worst case scenario (and likely the actual case) is that 2.35 is
not going to be released in July.

The new goal is to release it in early August.

The past month has been mired in fire-fighting bustages,
getting repacks and builds working (as of this writing,
trunk is busted) as well as the need to get the backend
buildbot code updated to reflect that we no longer depend
on CVS.

I apologize for the delay and thank everyone for your
patience.

Edmund

thanks for the update, Ed! These things happen. The future still looks 
bright though.


If anyone else is interested, I tried out the latest OS X trunk builds 
that have been built in the past few days and they are (at least on my 
profile), busted to the point where after an hour or so of use, no 
webpages load, the browser uses 100% of the CPU, and the only way to 
exit is to force close. When you re-open the browser, it will continue 
to not load any webpages and utilize 100% of the cpu until a force quit 
is required. I'd recommend for OS X users that like to be as up to date 
as possible to stay on Build identifier: 20150706003002 
(http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/2015-07-06-00-30-02-comm-central-trunk/seamonkey-2.39a1.en-US.mac.dmg). 
This build was the last stable-unstable build that I have come across 
recently. The latest lightning nightly works very well for this build as 
well.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35..

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On 7/30/2015 11:04 PM, Edmund Wong wrote:


I regret to be the bearer of bad news; but as it stands,
the worst case scenario (and likely the actual case) is that 2.35 is
not going to be released in July.

The new goal is to release it in early August.

The past month has been mired in fire-fighting bustages,
getting repacks and builds working (as of this writing,
trunk is busted) as well as the need to get the backend
buildbot code updated to reflect that we no longer depend
on CVS.

I apologize for the delay and thank everyone for your
patience.


Thank you for the updates, Edmund. These things happen. I'd rather see 
this take the needed time than being rushed to be buggy. I'm still OK 
with my old v2.33.1 installations. At least, I know SeaMonkey is not 
dead. It will be done eventually (just don't end up like 3D Realms' Duke 
Nukem Forever! :P)! :)

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35..

[Paul Bergsagel]

Edmund Wong wrote:

Hi,

I regret to be the bearer of bad news; but as it stands,
the worst case scenario (and likely the actual case) is that 2.35 is
not going to be released in July.

The new goal is to release it in early August.

The past month has been mired in fire-fighting bustages,
getting repacks and builds working (as of this writing,
trunk is busted) as well as the need to get the backend
buildbot code updated to reflect that we no longer depend
on CVS.

I apologize for the delay and thank everyone for your
patience.

Edmund

Thanks Edmund for all the hard work you and all the other developers do 
for SeaMonkey. All the work is very much appreciated!


Thanks for the update. We can wait for a stable release. Don't rush the 
release.

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