Re: Share all mail and newsgroups between profiles?

2016-05-11 Thread nomail2482

Richard Owlett wrote:

Environment: SeaMonkey 2.26.1 under WinXP Pro SP3
[Environment will *NOT* be changing in near future]

I'm working on two projects for which very different browser defaults make 
sense.
BUT I *MUST* have access to the same set of mails and Usenet accounts 
[including status, flag, very customized tags, etc].

How?
TIA


Newbie to this NG.
I've been doing this for years on WXPSP3 and had to figure out how to do it 
with W8.1Pro
I copied profile.ini to the default windows user profile that gets created for 
each new windows user.
WXP:   C:\Documents and Settings\Default User\Local Settings\Application 
Data\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\profiles.ini
W8.1P: C:\Users\Default\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\profiles.ini
[General]
StartWithLastProfile=1

[Profile0]
Name=default
IsRelative=0
Path=V:\Public Profile\

Re: Progress report - was [Re: Share all mail and newsgroups between profiles?]

2016-04-25 Thread Daniel

On 25/04/2016 12:54 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:



That good to know although long term I don't intend to dual boot much.
I suspect I may continue with Windows for internet access due to inertia.
Debian will be for productive work.


Me, long term, will be Linux for everything, maybe having Win7 in a 
Virtual Machine.


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Re: Progress report - was [Re: Share all mail and newsgroups between profiles?]

2016-04-24 Thread Richard Owlett

On 4/24/2016 6:12 AM, Daniel wrote:

On 24/04/2016 12:39 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:

On 4/20/2016 12:12 PM, Ed Mullen wrote:


Create a new profile and migrate your email and news.




Then make whatever changes you want.


As I said elsewhere I hadn't read that for several and
misremembered its
scope.
I'm taking this as an opportunity for a major
housecleaning/reorganization and preparation for an upcoming
move from
WinXP to Debian Linux. All files that pertain to how I use SM
will be in
a directory structure that's aimed at how I work, not SM's default
layout. It's more work but should pay off in long run.




Richard, was this what you were trying to do all along??


Not by design.
It's more a case of diverse projects from side issues of speech 
recognition, GPS, and being 'tech support' for friends 
influencing primary and secondary goals and means.

IOW a complete stew.



Reason I ask is that I duel boot Windows 7 with Mageia Linux and
have SeaMonkey installed on both systems.

I then share the one set of Profile files, which are on my
Windows G\:, with both SeaMonkey installations.

The reason I but the profile files on a Windows partition is
because my Mageia Linux can "see" my Windows drives, but my
Windows cannot "see" my Linux mounts!!



That good to know although long term I don't intend to dual boot 
much.
I suspect I may continue with Windows for internet access due to 
inertia.

Debian will be for productive work.
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Re: Progress report - was [Re: Share all mail and newsgroups between profiles?]

2016-04-24 Thread Daniel

On 24/04/2016 12:39 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:

On 4/20/2016 12:12 PM, Ed Mullen wrote:


Create a new profile and migrate your email and news.



Then make whatever changes you want.


As I said elsewhere I hadn't read that for several and misremembered its
scope.
I'm taking this as an opportunity for a major
housecleaning/reorganization and preparation for an upcoming move from
WinXP to Debian Linux. All files that pertain to how I use SM will be in
a directory structure that's aimed at how I work, not SM's default
layout. It's more work but should pay off in long run.




Richard, was this what you were trying to do all along??

Reason I ask is that I duel boot Windows 7 with Mageia Linux and have 
SeaMonkey installed on both systems.


I then share the one set of Profile files, which are on my Windows G\:, 
with both SeaMonkey installations.


The reason I but the profile files on a Windows partition is because my 
Mageia Linux can "see" my Windows drives, but my Windows cannot "see" my 
Linux mounts!!


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Progress report - was [Re: Share all mail and newsgroups between profiles?]

2016-04-23 Thread Richard Owlett

On 4/20/2016 12:12 PM, Ed Mullen wrote:


Create a new profile and migrate your email and news.


Then make whatever changes you want.


As I said elsewhere I hadn't read that for several and 
misremembered its scope.
I'm taking this as an opportunity for a major 
housecleaning/reorganization and preparation for an upcoming move 
from WinXP to Debian Linux. All files that pertain to how I use 
SM will be in a directory structure that's aimed at how I work, 
not SM's default layout. It's more work but should pay off in 
long run.

Sources consulted include:

References Directly used
A. 
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Transferring_data_to_a_new_profile_-_SeaMonkey

B.   http://kb.mozillazine.org/Finding_the_profile_folder_on_Windows
../#Finding_your_profile  [ (about:support) ]
C. http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_folder_-_SeaMonkey
D. http://kb.mozillazine.org/Moving_from_Windows_to_Linux
   [Info when moving to Linux]
E. 
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Moving_address_books_between_profiles says:
In the Address Book window, select the address book that you 
want to export.

Go to the "Tools" menu and select "Export...".
Enter a name for the address book, select "LDIF" from the 
drop-down list,
choose where on your computer you want to save the address 
book, and then

click to save the file.
F. 
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Moving_your_mail_storage_location_-_SeaMonkey

G. http://kb.mozillazine.org/Moving_your_profile_folder
   [useful comments about  profiles.ini ]

References with background information that influenced some 
choices I make

[some of it is dated and does not apply to SM 2.26.1]
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Mail_Utilities#MboxViewer
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Category:Migration_%28mail%29
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Recovering_a_missing_profile
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profiles.ini_file
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Creating_a_new_default_profile
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_folder_-_SeaMonkey
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_backup
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Bookmarks
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Places.sqlite



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A partial (possibly complete) solution - was [Re: Share all mail and newsgroups between profiles?]

2016-04-21 Thread Richard Owlett

On 4/20/2016 8:21 PM, Ed Mullen wrote:

[SNIP]


Create a new profile and migrate your email and news.





Then make whatever changes you want.
[SNIP]


I'm sorry my brain can't deal with this.  So I'll say that the OP
is asking for something that can't be done outside of what I've
suggested.

Users frequently ask for that: Functionality that doens't exist.

The OP, as I read this, hasn't replied so I can't be sure.



I had had only a brief glance at thread between your previous 
post and this morning.
I had a faulty memory of the Mozillazine article having last seen 
it when moving from SeaMonkey version 1.? to version 2. Read the 
complete article over my morning cup of coffee.


It and the reminders in intervening posts of functionality 
available with pref.js and user.js allow me a *TESTED* solution 
for email. I will have to run tests to see just how well it works 
for USENET. I suspect I may have to download to local storage.


I should have test results sometime tomorrow.
Just 'cause I'm retired doesn't mean I spend ALL day at the 
keyboard ;/

THANK YOU ALL.

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Re: Share all mail and newsgroups between profiles?

2016-04-20 Thread Chris Ilias

On 2016-04-20 7:30 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:

On 4/19/2016 9:52 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:


On 4/19/2016 7:20 PM, WaltS48 wrote:


How? This might help.



Link valuable on other topics while it avoids my question.


No, it really doesn't. Read the second subhead in the linked
section:



*IT IGNORES A _CRITICAL_ !!!REQUIREMENT!!!* that I keep repeating
to wit
"BUT I *MUST* have access to the same set of mails and Usenet accounts
[including status, flag, very customized tags, etc]. "

I have a dozen _*!!!customized!!!*_ tags. They are *CRITICAL* to me!!
Tagging info does not come across. Only the 10 default tags available.
As a minor annoyance it loses my current user name and server name.


Use IMAP. When there were other moderators in the support newsgroups, we 
used a shared IMAP account. All of our custom tags were recognized. It 
may even work with POP3. Give it a try. :)


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Re: Share all mail and newsgroups between profiles?

2016-04-20 Thread Ed Mullen

On 4/20/2016 1:25 PM, WaltS48's fingers rattled off:

On 04/20/2016 01:12 PM, Ed Mullen wrote:

On 4/20/2016 7:30 AM, Richard Owlett's fingers rattled off:

On 4/19/2016 9:52 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:


On 4/19/2016 7:20 PM, WaltS48 wrote:


How? This might help.



Link valuable on other topics while it avoids my question.


No, it really doesn't. Read the second subhead in the linked
section:



*IT IGNORES A _CRITICAL_ !!!REQUIREMENT!!!* that I keep repeating
to wit
"BUT I *MUST* have access to the same set of mails and Usenet accounts
[including status, flag, very customized tags, etc]. "

I have a dozen _*!!!customized!!!*_ tags. They are *CRITICAL* to
me!!
Tagging info does not come across. Only the 10 default tags available.
As a minor annoyance it loses my current user name and server name.






_Sharing Mail directories_

Go to: Edit -> Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings ->  -> Server Settings.

Under the "Local directory" field, you'll see a file path. You
can make two or more more profiles share the same mail directory
by setting each account to the same file path in the local
directory field.



Create a new profile and migrate your email and news.




Then make whatever changes you want.




The problem with that is after he has migrated the mail and news, he
says it doesn't migrate the 12 customized tags to the 2nd profile.

Also, as I understand it, if he reads mail, tags mail, flags mail in
profile #1,  he wants it to be displayed in profile #2 already
downloaded, tagged, flagged, marked as read, etc.

I don't think that is even possible.



I'm sorry my brain can't deal with this.  So I'll say that the OP is 
asking for something that can't be done outside of what I've suggested.


Users frequently ask for that: Functionality that doens't exist.

The OP, as I read this, hasn't replied so I can't be sure.


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Re: Share all mail and newsgroups between profiles?

2016-04-20 Thread mozilla-lists . mbourne

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:


The problem with that is after he has migrated the mail and news, he
says it doesn't migrate the 12 customized tags to the 2nd profile.

Also, as I understand it, if he reads mail, tags mail, flags mail in
profile #1,  he wants it to be displayed in profile #2 already
downloaded, tagged, flagged, marked as read, etc.

I don't think that is even possible.


Why wouldn't it be? If both profiles are pointing to the same mail
folder, they should read the same content, including any tags. It would
only be a problem if both profiles were open at the same time, competing
to read/write the same files.


It looks like the tag names, colours, etc. are defined in prefs.js / 
about:config for the profile (mailnews.tags.*). e.g. for one of the 
default labels in my profile:

  user_pref("mailnews.tags.$label3.color", "#009900");
  user_pref("mailnews.tags.$label3.tag", "Personal");
When tagging an email, a reference to the internal tag name is added to 
the headers in the mail file, e.g.:

  X-Mozilla-Keys: $label3

If you've defined custom labels, and then reference the same mail file 
from a different profile, that profile won't know what the extra labels are.


If your set of labels is fairly constant, I guess it should work to 
define the same labels in both profiles and then both would know what 
$label3 or whatever means. You'd probably need to do that by editing 
prefs.js or about:config, to ensure the same label gets the same 
internal name. Probably not practical if you're constantly defining new 
labels though.


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Re: Share all mail and newsgroups between profiles?

2016-04-20 Thread Jonathan N. Little

WaltS48 wrote:

On 04/20/2016 02:19 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:


The problem with that is after he has migrated the mail and news, he
says it doesn't migrate the 12 customized tags to the 2nd profile.

Also, as I understand it, if he reads mail, tags mail, flags mail in
profile #1,  he wants it to be displayed in profile #2 already
downloaded, tagged, flagged, marked as read, etc.

I don't think that is even possible.


Why wouldn't it be? If both profiles are pointing to the same mail
folder, they should read the same content, including any tags. It
would only be a problem if both profiles were open at the same time,
competing to read/write the same files.



The custom tag bit flag would be in the shared mail folder, but the 
second profile would need copy the flag mnemonics recorded in the prefs.js


user_pref("mailnews.tags.$label5.tag", "Your custom flag");
user_pref("mailnews.tags.$label5.color", "#993399");
...



So provide the instructions on how two separate profiles can point to
the same mail folder. Richard thanks you.



In second profile Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings > selected account 
> Server Settings > Local Directory > Browse and browse to existing 
mail folder...



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Re: Share all mail and newsgroups between profiles?

2016-04-20 Thread WaltS48

On 04/20/2016 02:19 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:


The problem with that is after he has migrated the mail and news, he
says it doesn't migrate the 12 customized tags to the 2nd profile.

Also, as I understand it, if he reads mail, tags mail, flags mail in
profile #1,  he wants it to be displayed in profile #2 already
downloaded, tagged, flagged, marked as read, etc.

I don't think that is even possible.


Why wouldn't it be? If both profiles are pointing to the same mail 
folder, they should read the same content, including any tags. It 
would only be a problem if both profiles were open at the same time, 
competing to read/write the same files.




So provide the instructions on how two separate profiles can point to 
the same mail folder. Richard thanks you.


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Re: Share all mail and newsgroups between profiles?

2016-04-20 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

WaltS48 wrote:


The problem with that is after he has migrated the mail and news, he
says it doesn't migrate the 12 customized tags to the 2nd profile.

Also, as I understand it, if he reads mail, tags mail, flags mail in
profile #1,  he wants it to be displayed in profile #2 already
downloaded, tagged, flagged, marked as read, etc.

I don't think that is even possible.


Why wouldn't it be? If both profiles are pointing to the same mail 
folder, they should read the same content, including any tags. It would 
only be a problem if both profiles were open at the same time, competing 
to read/write the same files.


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Re: Share all mail and newsgroups between profiles?

2016-04-20 Thread WaltS48

On 04/20/2016 01:12 PM, Ed Mullen wrote:

On 4/20/2016 7:30 AM, Richard Owlett's fingers rattled off:

On 4/19/2016 9:52 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:


On 4/19/2016 7:20 PM, WaltS48 wrote:


How? This might help.



Link valuable on other topics while it avoids my question.


No, it really doesn't. Read the second subhead in the linked
section:



*IT IGNORES A _CRITICAL_ !!!REQUIREMENT!!!* that I keep repeating
to wit
"BUT I *MUST* have access to the same set of mails and Usenet accounts
[including status, flag, very customized tags, etc]. "

I have a dozen _*!!!customized!!!*_ tags. They are *CRITICAL* to 
me!!

Tagging info does not come across. Only the 10 default tags available.
As a minor annoyance it loses my current user name and server name.






_Sharing Mail directories_

Go to: Edit -> Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings ->  -> Server Settings.

Under the "Local directory" field, you'll see a file path. You
can make two or more more profiles share the same mail directory
by setting each account to the same file path in the local
directory field.



Create a new profile and migrate your email and news.

 



Then make whatever changes you want.




The problem with that is after he has migrated the mail and news, he 
says it doesn't migrate the 12 customized tags to the 2nd profile.


Also, as I understand it, if he reads mail, tags mail, flags mail in 
profile #1,  he wants it to be displayed in profile #2 already 
downloaded, tagged, flagged, marked as read, etc.


I don't think that is even possible.

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Re: Share all mail and newsgroups between profiles?

2016-04-20 Thread Ed Mullen

On 4/20/2016 7:30 AM, Richard Owlett's fingers rattled off:

On 4/19/2016 9:52 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:


On 4/19/2016 7:20 PM, WaltS48 wrote:


How? This might help.



Link valuable on other topics while it avoids my question.


No, it really doesn't. Read the second subhead in the linked
section:



*IT IGNORES A _CRITICAL_ !!!REQUIREMENT!!!* that I keep repeating
to wit
"BUT I *MUST* have access to the same set of mails and Usenet accounts
[including status, flag, very customized tags, etc]. "

I have a dozen _*!!!customized!!!*_ tags. They are *CRITICAL* to me!!
Tagging info does not come across. Only the 10 default tags available.
As a minor annoyance it loses my current user name and server name.






_Sharing Mail directories_

Go to: Edit -> Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings ->  -> Server Settings.

Under the "Local directory" field, you'll see a file path. You
can make two or more more profiles share the same mail directory
by setting each account to the same file path in the local
directory field.



Create a new profile and migrate your email and news.



Then make whatever changes you want.


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Re: Share all mail and newsgroups between profiles?

2016-04-20 Thread Richard Owlett

On 4/20/2016 10:01 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

On 4/20/2016 9:01 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:





Not to start a flameware but it seems to run contrary to the
concept of an "Internet Suite" where browser and email clients
are combined. Would not separate clients such a Firefox and
Thunderbird be a simpler and more suitable solution?



"Suite" may not be the best word, but it was closest I could
think of.


It also happens to be the word the developers use so I think is
applies:



"The SeaMonkey project is a community effort to develop the
SeaMonkey all-in-one internet application suite"



SeaMonkey comes so close to my ideal, to miss by a
"femto-smidgen" is
annoying.
I will just have to continue editing my preferences as I switch
tasks.


I think you miss my point. If you want to tab some meat and ladle
some soup without contaminating each then a single tool the spork
is not the best option over a separate fork and spoon.


You're assuming I'm normal. Siblings would dispute that.





To paraphrase P. T. Barnum, "You can satisfy some of the people
all of
the time. You can satisfy all of the people some of the time.
You can
not satisfy all of the people all of the time."   ;/




Actually that was Abe Lincoln ;-)



Both seem to have been given credit.
http://www.funtrivia.com/askft/Question58275.html
http://www.worldofquotes.com/topic/Deceit/1/
http://members.tripod.com/~mr_sedivy/quotes17.html

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Re: Share all mail and newsgroups between profiles?

2016-04-20 Thread Jonathan N. Little

Richard Owlett wrote:

On 4/20/2016 9:01 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:





Not to start a flameware but it seems to run contrary to the
concept of an "Internet Suite" where browser and email clients
are combined. Would not separate clients such a Firefox and
Thunderbird be a simpler and more suitable solution?



"Suite" may not be the best word, but it was closest I could think of.


It also happens to be the word the developers use so I think is applies:



"The SeaMonkey project is a community effort to develop the SeaMonkey 
all-in-one internet application suite"




SeaMonkey comes so close to my ideal, to miss by a "femto-smidgen" is
annoying.
I will just have to continue editing my preferences as I switch tasks.


I think you miss my point. If you want to tab some meat and ladle some 
soup without contaminating each then a single tool the spork is not the 
best option over a separate fork and spoon.




To paraphrase P. T. Barnum, "You can satisfy some of the people all of
the time. You can satisfy all of the people some of the time. You can
not satisfy all of the people all of the time."   ;/




Actually that was Abe Lincoln ;-)


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Re: Share all mail and newsgroups between profiles?

2016-04-20 Thread Richard Owlett

On 4/20/2016 9:01 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

On 4/19/2016 6:02 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 4/19/2016 1:16 PM, EE wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

Environment: SeaMonkey 2.26.1 under WinXP Pro SP3
[Environment will *NOT* be changing in near future]

I'm working on two projects for which very different browser
defaults
make sense.
BUT I *MUST* have access to the same set of mails and Usenet
accounts
[including status, flag, very customized tags, etc].

How?
TIA


Mail and newsgroups do not involve the browser.  If you mean
that you
want the browser to work when you click a link in either mail or
newsgroup message, that should work regardless.



No, I think Owlett wants to be able to switch browser profiles
without
losing the current mail-news session (without switching mail-news
profile).



That is the idea. Your phrasing may be a little more
restrictive than
what I'm thinking of.



Not to start a flameware but it seems to run contrary to the
concept of an "Internet Suite" where browser and email clients
are combined. Would not separate clients such a Firefox and
Thunderbird be a simpler and more suitable solution?



"Suite" may not be the best word, but it was closest I could 
think of.
SeaMonkey comes so close to my ideal, to miss by a 
"femto-smidgen" is annoying.
I will just have to continue editing my preferences as I switch 
tasks.


To paraphrase P. T. Barnum, "You can satisfy some of the people 
all of the time. You can satisfy all of the people some of the 
time. You can not satisfy all of the people all of the time."   ;/



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Re: Share all mail and newsgroups between profiles?

2016-04-20 Thread Jonathan N. Little

Richard Owlett wrote:

On 4/19/2016 6:02 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 4/19/2016 1:16 PM, EE wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

Environment: SeaMonkey 2.26.1 under WinXP Pro SP3
[Environment will *NOT* be changing in near future]

I'm working on two projects for which very different browser defaults
make sense.
BUT I *MUST* have access to the same set of mails and Usenet accounts
[including status, flag, very customized tags, etc].

How?
TIA


Mail and newsgroups do not involve the browser.  If you mean that you
want the browser to work when you click a link in either mail or
newsgroup message, that should work regardless.



No, I think Owlett wants to be able to switch browser profiles without
losing the current mail-news session (without switching mail-news
profile).



That is the idea. Your phrasing may be a little more restrictive than
what I'm thinking of.



Not to start a flameware but it seems to run contrary to the concept of 
an "Internet Suite" where browser and email clients are combined. Would 
not separate clients such a Firefox and Thunderbird be a simpler and 
more suitable solution?




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Re: Share all mail and newsgroups between profiles?

2016-04-20 Thread WaltS48

On 04/19/2016 09:37 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:

On 4/19/2016 7:20 PM, WaltS48 wrote:

On 04/19/2016 05:36 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:

On 4/19/2016 2:43 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:


On 4/19/2016 10:45 AM, WaltS48 wrote:


Use 2 profiles.


Of course. I'll even quote myself:

BUT I *MUST* have access to the same set of mails and Usenet
accounts
[including status, flag, very customized tags, etc].



Well, then, I spose the way to go would be to have both profiles
point to the same mail folders. Obviously, you must not have both
profiles open at the same time.



_*HOW*_ ?



_*Why?

*_Work_**_on browser project #1 with the Mail & Newsgroups profile.

Work on browser project #2 with just a browser profile.



*NO*

Question itself *EXPLICITLY* eliminates that as being acceptable!




Create a profile just for Mail & Newsgroups, start it with
whatever command Windows uses to start just that window, and use
it for both browser projects, while having separate profiles for
each browser project.

How? This might help.



Link valuable on other topics while it avoids my question.

I will re-quote a key statement in my original post

BUT I *MUST* have access to the same set of mails and Usenet accounts
   _*[including status, flag, very customized tags, etc]*_



Looks like nobody knows how, or isn't inclined to experiment creating 
customized tags, status, flags, etc in one profile and figuring out how 
to move it all to another.


Too complicated for me to attempt, and I have experimented to help solve 
problems in the past.


Heck, SeaMonkey is too complicated to setup an email account in for me. 
I have no idea what the port numbers are. Thunderbird finds and enters 
that information for me.


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Re: Share all mail and newsgroups between profiles?

2016-04-20 Thread Richard Owlett

On 4/19/2016 9:52 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:


On 4/19/2016 7:20 PM, WaltS48 wrote:


How? This might help.



Link valuable on other topics while it avoids my question.


No, it really doesn't. Read the second subhead in the linked
section:



*IT IGNORES A _CRITICAL_ !!!REQUIREMENT!!!* that I keep repeating
to wit
"BUT I *MUST* have access to the same set of mails and Usenet 
accounts [including status, flag, very customized tags, etc]. "


I have a dozen _*!!!customized!!!*_ tags. They are *CRITICAL* to 
me!!
Tagging info does not come across. Only the 10 default tags 
available.

As a minor annoyance it loses my current user name and server name.






_Sharing Mail directories_

Go to: Edit -> Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings ->  -> Server Settings.

Under the "Local directory" field, you'll see a file path. You
can make two or more more profiles share the same mail directory
by setting each account to the same file path in the local
directory field.


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Re: Share all mail and newsgroups between profiles?

2016-04-19 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Richard Owlett wrote:


On 4/19/2016 7:20 PM, WaltS48 wrote:


How? This might help.



Link valuable on other topics while it avoids my question.


No, it really doesn't. Read the second subhead in the linked section:

_Sharing Mail directories_

Go to: Edit -> Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings -> here> -> Server Settings.


Under the "Local directory" field, you'll see a file path. You can make 
two or more more profiles share the same mail directory by setting each 
account to the same file path in the local directory field.


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Re: Share all mail and newsgroups between profiles?

2016-04-19 Thread Richard Owlett

On 4/19/2016 6:02 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 4/19/2016 1:16 PM, EE wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

Environment: SeaMonkey 2.26.1 under WinXP Pro SP3
[Environment will *NOT* be changing in near future]

I'm working on two projects for which very different browser defaults
make sense.
BUT I *MUST* have access to the same set of mails and Usenet accounts
[including status, flag, very customized tags, etc].

How?
TIA


Mail and newsgroups do not involve the browser.  If you mean that you
want the browser to work when you click a link in either mail or
newsgroup message, that should work regardless.



No, I think Owlett wants to be able to switch browser profiles without
losing the current mail-news session (without switching mail-news
profile).



That is the idea. Your phrasing may be a little more restrictive 
than what I'm thinking of.




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Re: Share all mail and newsgroups between profiles?

2016-04-19 Thread Richard Owlett

On 4/19/2016 7:20 PM, WaltS48 wrote:

On 04/19/2016 05:36 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:

On 4/19/2016 2:43 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:


On 4/19/2016 10:45 AM, WaltS48 wrote:


Use 2 profiles.


Of course. I'll even quote myself:

BUT I *MUST* have access to the same set of mails and Usenet
accounts
[including status, flag, very customized tags, etc].



Well, then, I spose the way to go would be to have both profiles
point to the same mail folders. Obviously, you must not have both
profiles open at the same time.



_*HOW*_ ?



_*Why?

*_Work_**_on browser project #1 with the Mail & Newsgroups profile.

Work on browser project #2 with just a browser profile.



*NO*

Question itself *EXPLICITLY* eliminates that as being acceptable!




Create a profile just for Mail & Newsgroups, start it with
whatever command Windows uses to start just that window, and use
it for both browser projects, while having separate profiles for
each browser project.

How? This might help.



Link valuable on other topics while it avoids my question.

I will re-quote a key statement in my original post

BUT I *MUST* have access to the same set of mails and Usenet 
accounts

   _*[including status, flag, very customized tags, etc]*_

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Re: Share all mail and newsgroups between profiles?

2016-04-19 Thread WaltS48

On 04/19/2016 05:36 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:

On 4/19/2016 2:43 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:


On 4/19/2016 10:45 AM, WaltS48 wrote:


Use 2 profiles.


Of course. I'll even quote myself:

BUT I *MUST* have access to the same set of mails and Usenet
accounts
[including status, flag, very customized tags, etc].



Well, then, I spose the way to go would be to have both profiles
point to the same mail folders. Obviously, you must not have both
profiles open at the same time.



_*HOW*_ ?



_*Why?

*_Work_**_on browser project #1 with the Mail & Newsgroups profile.

Work on browser project #2 with just a browser profile.

Create a profile just for Mail & Newsgroups, start it with whatever 
command Windows uses to start just that window, and use it for both 
browser projects, while having separate profiles for each browser project.


How? This might help. 
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Re: Share all mail and newsgroups between profiles?

2016-04-19 Thread David E. Ross
On 4/19/2016 1:16 PM, EE wrote:
> Richard Owlett wrote:
>> Environment: SeaMonkey 2.26.1 under WinXP Pro SP3
>> [Environment will *NOT* be changing in near future]
>>
>> I'm working on two projects for which very different browser defaults
>> make sense.
>> BUT I *MUST* have access to the same set of mails and Usenet accounts
>> [including status, flag, very customized tags, etc].
>>
>> How?
>> TIA
> 
> Mail and newsgroups do not involve the browser.  If you mean that you 
> want the browser to work when you click a link in either mail or 
> newsgroup message, that should work regardless.
> 

No, I think Owlett wants to be able to switch browser profiles without
losing the current mail-news session (without switching mail-news
profile).

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Re: Share all mail and newsgroups between profiles?

2016-04-19 Thread Richard Owlett

On 4/19/2016 2:43 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:


On 4/19/2016 10:45 AM, WaltS48 wrote:


Use 2 profiles.


Of course. I'll even quote myself:

BUT I *MUST* have access to the same set of mails and Usenet
accounts
[including status, flag, very customized tags, etc].



Well, then, I spose the way to go would be to have both profiles
point to the same mail folders. Obviously, you must not have both
profiles open at the same time.



_*HOW*_ ?

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Re: Share all mail and newsgroups between profiles?

2016-04-19 Thread EE

Richard Owlett wrote:

Environment: SeaMonkey 2.26.1 under WinXP Pro SP3
[Environment will *NOT* be changing in near future]

I'm working on two projects for which very different browser defaults
make sense.
BUT I *MUST* have access to the same set of mails and Usenet accounts
[including status, flag, very customized tags, etc].

How?
TIA


Mail and newsgroups do not involve the browser.  If you mean that you 
want the browser to work when you click a link in either mail or 
newsgroup message, that should work regardless.


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Re: Share all mail and newsgroups between profiles?

2016-04-19 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Richard Owlett wrote:


On 4/19/2016 10:45 AM, WaltS48 wrote:


Use 2 profiles.


Of course. I'll even quote myself:

BUT I *MUST* have access to the same set of mails and Usenet accounts
[including status, flag, very customized tags, etc].



Well, then, I spose the way to go would be to have both profiles point 
to the same mail folders. Obviously, you must not have both profiles 
open at the same time.


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Re: Share all mail and newsgroups between profiles?

2016-04-19 Thread Richard Owlett

On 4/19/2016 10:45 AM, WaltS48 wrote:

On 04/19/2016 11:36 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:

On 4/19/2016 9:53 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 4/19/2016 6:17 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:

Environment: SeaMonkey 2.26.1 under WinXP Pro SP3
[Environment will *NOT* be changing in near future]

I'm working on two projects for which very different browser
defaults make sense.
BUT I *MUST* have access to the same set of mails and Usenet
accounts [including status, flag, very customized tags, etc].

How?
TIA



That is why I use Thunderbird for mail and newsgroups and
SeaMonkey only
as a browser.



I had already effectively said no to that path. I'm a
holdover from Netscape 4.? days. I want a sweet [errr suite]
solution ;/ Thanks for responding.



Use 2 profiles.



Of course. I'll even quote myself:

BUT I *MUST* have access to the same set of mails and Usenet 
accounts [including status, flag, very customized tags, etc].



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Re: Share all mail and newsgroups between profiles?

2016-04-19 Thread WaltS48

On 04/19/2016 11:36 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:

On 4/19/2016 9:53 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 4/19/2016 6:17 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:

Environment: SeaMonkey 2.26.1 under WinXP Pro SP3
[Environment will *NOT* be changing in near future]

I'm working on two projects for which very different browser
defaults make sense.
BUT I *MUST* have access to the same set of mails and Usenet
accounts [including status, flag, very customized tags, etc].

How?
TIA



That is why I use Thunderbird for mail and newsgroups and SeaMonkey only
as a browser.



I had already effectively said no to that path. I'm a 
holdover from Netscape 4.? days. I want a sweet [errr suite] solution 
;/ Thanks for responding.




Use 2 profiles.

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Re: Share all mail and newsgroups between profiles?

2016-04-19 Thread Richard Owlett

On 4/19/2016 9:53 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 4/19/2016 6:17 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:

Environment: SeaMonkey 2.26.1 under WinXP Pro SP3
[Environment will *NOT* be changing in near future]

I'm working on two projects for which very different browser
defaults make sense.
BUT I *MUST* have access to the same set of mails and Usenet
accounts [including status, flag, very customized tags, etc].

How?
TIA



That is why I use Thunderbird for mail and newsgroups and SeaMonkey only
as a browser.



I had already effectively said no to that path. I'm a 
holdover from Netscape 4.? days. I want a sweet [errr suite] 
solution ;/ Thanks for responding.


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Re: Share all mail and newsgroups between profiles?

2016-04-19 Thread David E. Ross
On 4/19/2016 6:17 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
> Environment: SeaMonkey 2.26.1 under WinXP Pro SP3
> [Environment will *NOT* be changing in near future]
> 
> I'm working on two projects for which very different browser 
> defaults make sense.
> BUT I *MUST* have access to the same set of mails and Usenet 
> accounts [including status, flag, very customized tags, etc].
> 
> How?
> TIA
> 

That is why I use Thunderbird for mail and newsgroups and SeaMonkey only
as a browser.

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