Re: bookmarks sharing post-places

2009-07-30 Thread Steve Wendt 

On 7/30/2009 2:59 PM, Felix Miata wrote:


I also seem to have found a solution for the original issue regarding FF: put
'user_pref("browser.places.importBookmarksHTML", true);' in user.js (which I
found in bug 385077).


Useful info is in comment 70:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=385077#c70
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Re: bookmarks sharing post-places

2009-07-30 Thread Felix Miata 
On 2009/07/29 23:46 (GMT+0200) Jens Hatlak composed:

> Felix Miata wrote:

>> For more than 6 months now the SM devel versions have used places.sqlite
>> instead of bookmarks.html.

> Wrong, SM trunk is using Places only for history (and consequently for 
> the location bar). The bookmarks backend has not changed and will not 
> change for SM 2.0. Beyond that the bets are off.

I knew it was using the file, but didn't know about the separation of
possible components and retention of use of bookmarks.html, so thanks for
explaining.

I also seem to have found a solution for the original issue regarding FF: put
'user_pref("browser.places.importBookmarksHTML", true);' in user.js (which I
found in bug 385077).
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Re: bookmarks sharing post-places

2009-07-29 Thread Philip Chee 
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 17:10:47 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:

> For more than 6 months now the SM devel versions have used places.sqlite
> instead of bookmarks.html.

You are delusional.

Phil (active SeaMonkey developer)

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Re: bookmarks sharing post-places

2009-07-29 Thread Jens Hatlak 

Felix Miata wrote:

For more than 6 months now the SM devel versions have used places.sqlite
instead of bookmarks.html.


Wrong, SM trunk is using Places only for history (and consequently for 
the location bar). The bookmarks backend has not changed and will not 
change for SM 2.0. Beyond that the bets are off.


HTH

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Re: bookmarks sharing post-places

2009-07-29 Thread Felix Miata 
On 2007/29/2009 13:36 (GMT-0500) inva...@invalid.invalid composed:

>> Is there a way to do it without the (FF/SM) application open and navigating
>> menus, similar to what I was able to do by simply copying a file as before?

> The bookmarks are in a SQLite table so it is easy to work with them.

Please elaborate. All I know about SQLite is that modern Geckos use it for
certain types of profile data. With FF2 and SM1 all I need do is copy a file
via a command prompt or script. How do I manage an equivalent feat with SM2
and FF3 without destroying the history component of the places.sqlite files
in the destination profile directories?
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Re: bookmarks sharing post-places

2009-07-29 Thread Felix Miata 
On 2007/28/2009 23:56 (GMT+0200) Martin Feitag composed:

> Felix Miata schrieb:

>> On 2007/14/2009 11:27 (GMT-0500) inva...@invalid.invalid composed:

 Using the Import/Export functionality of the Bookmark Manager maybe?
 Seamonkey allows import export to HTML and so does Firefox afaik.

>>> Exactly!

>> Is there a way to do it without the (FF/SM) application open and navigating
>> menus, similar to what I was able to do by simply copying a file as before?

> You can set the Browser.bookmarks.file in about:config to a specific 
> location. See http://kb.mozillazine.org/Browser.bookmarks.file

For many years I have set a specific bookmarks.html location in advance of
profile creation via user.js for every pre-Gecko 1.9.x profile. The process
you and that URL describe is inapplicable for Gecko 1.9.x profiles, according
to bug 385077.

> FF offers an auto-export pref in about:config for always generating a 
> bookmarks.html I think. Seamonkey always uses boookmarks.html

Exporting from FF is irrelevant to the thread, which is about using one 100%
SM1.1.x-managed bookmarks.html file as the sole basis for a multitude of
other profiles. I don't plan ever to copy bookmarks from any FF profile to
any other profile.

For more than 6 months now the SM devel versions have used places.sqlite
instead of bookmarks.html.
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Re: bookmarks sharing post-places

2009-07-29 Thread invalid 
> Is there a way to do it without the (FF/SM) application open and navigating
> menus, similar to what I was able to do by simply copying a file as before?

The bookmarks are in a SQLite table so it is easy to work with them.

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Re: bookmarks sharing post-places

2009-07-28 Thread Martin Feitag 

Felix Miata schrieb:

On 2007/14/2009 11:27 (GMT-0500) inva...@invalid.invalid composed:


Using the Import/Export functionality of the Bookmark Manager maybe?
Seamonkey allows import export to HTML and so does Firefox afaik.



Exactly!


Is there a way to do it without the (FF/SM) application open and navigating
menus, similar to what I was able to do by simply copying a file as before?


You can set the Browser.bookmarks.file in about:config to a specific 
location. See http://kb.mozillazine.org/Browser.bookmarks.file


FF offers an auto-export pref in about:config for always generating a 
bookmarks.html I think. Seamonkey always uses boookmarks.html

regards

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Re: bookmarks sharing post-places

2009-07-28 Thread Felix Miata 
On 2007/14/2009 11:27 (GMT-0500) inva...@invalid.invalid composed:

>> Using the Import/Export functionality of the Bookmark Manager maybe?
>> Seamonkey allows import export to HTML and so does Firefox afaik.

> Exactly!

Is there a way to do it without the (FF/SM) application open and navigating
menus, similar to what I was able to do by simply copying a file as before?
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Re: bookmarks sharing post-places

2009-07-14 Thread invalid 
> Using the Import/Export functionality of the Bookmark Manager maybe?
> Seamonkey allows import export to HTML and so does Firefox afaik.
> 

Exactly!
Martin



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Re: bookmarks sharing post-places

2009-07-11 Thread Ray Davison 

Felix Miata wrote:

I'm talking about multiple Geckos on multiple puters all running at
the same time, and started using a copy of a master bookmarks file
(managed by SM 1.1.x on OS/2).


Point taken.  I do find it useful to run browsers on multiple machines 
at the same time, using the same bookmarks.  I have CMD files to 
distribute from the "master".


I can only guess that someone considered bookmarks and history to be 
near enough to the same thing that they threw them together.  I had not 
noticed it.  I think they should reconsider.


Since OS/2 SM 2X mail is unusable here I haven't been using it.  But I 
just exported the bookmarks from SM Win 2.0b1 to HTML.  I got only 
bookmarks, no history.  Presumably that could be imported to another 
profile.  I assume you would have to clear out the bookmarks that were 
already there.  Bit of a bother, aye what?


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Re: bookmarks sharing post-places

2009-07-11 Thread Felix Miata 
On 2009/07/09 22:38 (GMT-0700) Ray Davison composed:

> Felix Miata wrote:

>> Is there any convenient and practical way to share bookmarks without
>> destroying history?

> You are the "owner/user" of the bookmarks and history, not the 
> browser(s).  Why not have all browsers share all data?

AFAIK only one app can use a profile at a time. I'm talking about multiple
Geckos on multiple puters all running at the same time, and started using
a copy of a master bookmarks file (managed by SM 1.1.x on OS/2).
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Re: bookmarks sharing post-places

2009-07-10 Thread Martin Feitag 

Felix Miata schrieb:

Has anyone found a practical way to do this, preferably without running any
involved Gecko application?

When all bookmarks depended exclusively on bookmarks.html, it was easy to
share by simply copying that file from whichever profile was used to maintain
it to any other profile that wished to use it. It didn't matter if the
profile was for Firefox or SeaMonkey or some other Gecko.

Places merged history and bookmarks. As a result, if you delete places.sqlite
from a profile and copy the bookmarks.html file to that profile in order for
it to be automatically converted to places format, all history is lost for
that profile. If instead you copy from a master places.sqlite profile to
another that desires to use its bookmarks, the original history is replaced
with that of the profile copied from. Either way, the discrete history of the
profile copied to is lost.

Is there any convenient and practical way to share bookmarks without
destroying history?

FWIW, my bookmarks.html file is more than 500k.


Using the Import/Export functionality of the Bookmark Manager maybe?
Seamonkey allows import export to HTML and so does Firefox afaik.

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Re: bookmarks sharing post-places

2009-07-09 Thread Philip Chee 
On Thu, 09 Jul 2009 14:52:52 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
> Has anyone found a practical way to do this, preferably without running any
> involved Gecko application?
> 
> When all bookmarks depended exclusively on bookmarks.html, it was easy to
> share by simply copying that file from whichever profile was used to maintain
> it to any other profile that wished to use it. It didn't matter if the
> profile was for Firefox or SeaMonkey or some other Gecko.
> 
> Places merged history and bookmarks. As a result, if you delete places.sqlite
> from a profile and copy the bookmarks.html file to that profile in order for
> it to be automatically converted to places format, all history is lost for
> that profile. If instead you copy from a master places.sqlite profile to
> another that desires to use its bookmarks, the original history is replaced
> with that of the profile copied from. Either way, the discrete history of the
> profile copied to is lost.
> 
> Is there any convenient and practical way to share bookmarks without
> destroying history?

Yes. It's called Weave. Unfortunately the Google SoC application for a
student to work on a bookmarks module for SeaMonkey (Firefox bookmarks
are already synced) didn't make the cut.

Phil

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Re: bookmarks sharing post-places

2009-07-09 Thread Ray Davison 

Felix Miata wrote:


Is there any convenient and practical way to share bookmarks without
destroying history?


You are the "owner/user" of the bookmarks and history, not the 
browser(s).  Why not have all browsers share all data?


Where possible - I don't really have a handle on the transition to 
sqlite - I have all OS/2 and Win browsers share the entire profile.


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Re: bookmarks sharing post-places

2009-07-09 Thread Steve Wendt 

On 07/09/09 11:52 am, Felix Miata wrote:


Has anyone found a practical way to do this, preferably without running any
involved Gecko application?

Is there any convenient and practical way to share bookmarks without
destroying history?


I imagine it shouldn't be too hard for someone with the time and 
inclination to copy the code that imports the bookmarks into a smaller 
app, that just zaps the existing bookmarks first.

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bookmarks sharing post-places

2009-07-09 Thread Felix Miata 
Has anyone found a practical way to do this, preferably without running any
involved Gecko application?

When all bookmarks depended exclusively on bookmarks.html, it was easy to
share by simply copying that file from whichever profile was used to maintain
it to any other profile that wished to use it. It didn't matter if the
profile was for Firefox or SeaMonkey or some other Gecko.

Places merged history and bookmarks. As a result, if you delete places.sqlite
from a profile and copy the bookmarks.html file to that profile in order for
it to be automatically converted to places format, all history is lost for
that profile. If instead you copy from a master places.sqlite profile to
another that desires to use its bookmarks, the original history is replaced
with that of the profile copied from. Either way, the discrete history of the
profile copied to is lost.

Is there any convenient and practical way to share bookmarks without
destroying history?

FWIW, my bookmarks.html file is more than 500k.
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