Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed
Le 13 juillet 2011, Ant a écrit : On Jul 13, 5:56 am, Lucas Levrel lucas.lev...@u-pec.fr wrote: Le 12 juillet 2011, Ant a écrit : I use hot keys: ctrl-w. Just be careful not to hit q key that is right next to it to exit SM. I wished I could change it or at least have SM2 prompt me! :( If you have several tabs open it should. Prefs Browser Tabbed browsing Warn me when... Nope. It exits with ctrl-q hotkeys without any warnings/promptings on my home (updated XP Pro. SP3) and office (updated 64-bit Windows 7 HP) PCs. :( Looks abnormal. What do you get in about:config if you look for browser.tabs.warn (I get three default set at true)? Do you see the problem with a fresh profile? -- LL ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed
Jens Hatlak wrote: Bill Spikowski wrote: Jens Hatlak wrote: I posted the exact version you need to install: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/colorfultabs/versions/#version-4.8.1.6.1 I just installed this on SM 2.2; the Add-Ons Manager says it's not compatible, but the tabs sure are colorful now! All I really want is to highlight the current tab with any color that's different than the other tabs. Can this extension do that? I don't think so. What you want is this: 1. Install Stylish 1.2 (needs compatibility override for SM 2.2) or do the below in your userChrome.css 2. add this style: .tabbrowser-tab[selected=true] hbox { background-color:#b7e490 !important; } The color is just an example (you can choose what you like), and you can of course apply any CSS there, like color: for the foreground color etc. HTH Jens That's what I was looking for. Thanks! Now, how do I change the color to a light blue? -- JD.. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed
JD wrote: Now, how do I change the color to a light blue? Search Google for web color chooser, pick yours and copy the #ABCDEF (RGB) value. HTH Jens -- Jens Hatlak http://jens.hatlak.de/ SeaMonkey Trunk Tracker http://smtt.blogspot.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed
JD wrote: Jens Hatlak wrote: .. userChrome.css 2. add this style: .tabbrowser-tab[selected=true] hbox { background-color:#b7e490 !important; } The color is just an example (you can choose what you like), Now, how do I change the color to a light blue? Jens has told you the 'how' .. but you can select a color from this comprehensive listing: http://www.somacon.com/p142.php -- -bts -Four wheels carry the body; two wheels move the soul ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: JD wrote: Jens Hatlak wrote: .. userChrome.css 2. add this style: .tabbrowser-tab[selected=true] hbox { background-color:#b7e490 !important; } The color is just an example (you can choose what you like), Now, how do I change the color to a light blue? Jens has told you the 'how' .. but you can select a color from this comprehensive listing: http://www.somacon.com/p142.php Azure it is: #F0 Thanks Beau! -- JD.. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed
Jens Hatlak wrote: JD wrote: Now, how do I change the color to a light blue? Search Google for web color chooser, pick yours and copy the #ABCDEF (RGB) value. HTH Jens Beau provided a link that works for me. Azure it is: #F0 -- JD.. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed
JD wrote: http://www.somacon.com/p142.php Azure it is: #F0 Thanks Beau! Yer welcome. ;-) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azure_%28color%29 -- -bts -Four wheels carry the body; two wheels move the soul ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed
Jay Garcia wrote: On 11.07.2011 08:19, Daniel wrote: --- Original Message --- JohnQPublic wrote: Sorry to say it, but the tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser just aren't up to snuff... The active tab needs to be highlighted with a different color, so it's easy to see. Firefox accomplishes this by making the active tab lighter, which works fine. If there's any difference in SeaMonkey, I can't see it with my CRT monitor. I realize that LCD monitors render grayscales better, but SeaMonkey should take that into consideration. I've looked through the settings and can't find any way to fix this, so presume it's built-in(?). On my screen, the currently selected tab looks significantly lighter than the non-selected tabs. Additionally, if you hover your mouse over the tabs, small images are displayed of the non-selected tab screens. Nothing is displayed when hovering over the currently selected tab, because it is currently selected. HTH Daniel Apparently the only way to close a tab in SeaMonkey with the mouse is to click the little x at the rightside of the tab bar, but it's too small to hit easily quickly with the mouse pointer. Also that's much less satisfactory than having an x on each tab. Without an x on each tab, it's necessary to first select a tab then click the x. Very cumbersome. Or am I overlooking something obvious as a newbie? Yes, I'm aware of the keyboard shortcuts affecting tabs, but I normally use a mouse for these operations. Please bottom post, thanks. As I get older, I have somewhat the same problems - being able to differentiate active tabs as well as other UI functionality. Making the active tab a different color is far better than just making it lighter, IMHO of course. Same goes for other buttons and such where opposing colors can make all the difference. Jay, I'm not trying to start another top/interspersed/bottom posting thread,here. What I should have done, as I was only responding to the top para, I should have deleted the bottom para, so I would then have, effectively, been bottom posting. Sorry! -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed
Jens Hatlak wrote: Margo Guda wrote: Jens Hatlak wrote: Ant wrote: Does ColorfulTabs extension still work and help? In v2.0.x and earlier, it helped. I haven't upgraded to v2.2 yet. ColorfulTabs 4.8.1.6.1 works with compatibility checks disabled. (...) How can I install it in SM2.2? Even with compatibility checking for add ons disabled, seamonkey refuses to install this version. I have an older version which no longer works and will not update. I already installed the compatibility reporter add on, but it has not helped in this case. I posted the exact version you need to install: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/colorfultabs/versions/#version-4.8.1.6.1 I just installed this on SM 2.2; the Add-Ons Manager says it's not compatible, but the tabs sure are colorful now! All I really want is to highlight the current tab with any color that's different than the other tabs. Can this extension do that? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed
Jens Hatlak wrote: Margo Guda wrote: Jens Hatlak wrote: Ant wrote: Does ColorfulTabs extension still work and help? In v2.0.x and earlier, it helped. I haven't upgraded to v2.2 yet. ColorfulTabs 4.8.1.6.1 works with compatibility checks disabled. (...) How can I install it in SM2.2? Even with compatibility checking for add ons disabled, seamonkey refuses to install this version. I have an older version which no longer works and will not update. I already installed the compatibility reporter add on, but it has not helped in this case. I posted the exact version you need to install: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/colorfultabs/versions/#version-4.8.1.6.1 On Linux or Mac it will say it's only for Windows, but you can safely ignore that and click Install for Windows anyway. HTH Jens Thank you, it does help. I have added the bolding for the selected tab and it is now back where I wanted it, or even better. Margo Guda. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed
Ant wrote: Jens Hatlak wrote: ColorfulTabs 4.8.1.6.1 works with compatibility checks disabled. (...) On Linux or Mac it will say it's only for Windows, but you can safely ignore that and click Install for Windows anyway. Wait. Works with: * Firefox 4.0b1 - 4.0.*. I am still using v4.6.5 in my SM v2.0.14. Are you saying we can use newer versions that don't say SM? I'm saying you can use that very version that I specified. Unfortunately add-on authors do not always update the compatibility information in all places. Basically there are two: What AMO claims, and what the add-on file (XPI/install.rdf) claims. The latter determines which applications the add-on is compatible with. If an application (e.g. SeaMonkey) is not listed there, the add-on won't install, even if AMO tells differently (e.g. that's the case with Slim Add-on Manager version 5.0). I know that sucks, but it's a fact. Now if an add-on file claims compatibility with any version of SeaMonkey and you have the Add-on Compatibility Reporter installed, then you'll be able to install that add-on, even if AMO says it's not compatible with that application. This is the case with ColorfulTabs 4.8.1.6.1. Lastly, if an add-on file claims compatibility with an application but with a lower version than what AMO claims, AMO wins. This is actually a good thing since it allows add-on authors to simply bump the AMO data and be done with it; no need to release new files. Now if only AMO was able to check its own compatibility claims against those of the add-on file in question... HTH Jens P.S.: Before anyone asks: I won't check into those AMO deficiencies. AFAIK they switched their back-end from PHP to Python, and my abilities there are 10:0. -- Jens Hatlak http://jens.hatlak.de/ SeaMonkey Trunk Tracker http://smtt.blogspot.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed
Bill Spikowski wrote: Jens Hatlak wrote: I posted the exact version you need to install: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/colorfultabs/versions/#version-4.8.1.6.1 I just installed this on SM 2.2; the Add-Ons Manager says it's not compatible, but the tabs sure are colorful now! All I really want is to highlight the current tab with any color that's different than the other tabs. Can this extension do that? I don't think so. What you want is this: 1. Install Stylish 1.2 (needs compatibility override for SM 2.2) or do the below in your userChrome.css 2. add this style: .tabbrowser-tab[selected=true] hbox { background-color:#b7e490 !important; } The color is just an example (you can choose what you like), and you can of course apply any CSS there, like color: for the foreground color etc. HTH Jens -- Jens Hatlak http://jens.hatlak.de/ SeaMonkey Trunk Tracker http://smtt.blogspot.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed
Jens Hatlak wrote: Bill Spikowski wrote: Jens Hatlak wrote: I posted the exact version you need to install: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/colorfultabs/versions/#version-4.8.1.6.1 I just installed this on SM 2.2; the Add-Ons Manager says it's not compatible, but the tabs sure are colorful now! All I really want is to highlight the current tab with any color that's different than the other tabs. Can this extension do that? I don't think so. What you want is this: 1. Install Stylish 1.2 (needs compatibility override for SM 2.2) or do the below in your userChrome.css 2. add this style: .tabbrowser-tab[selected=true] hbox { background-color:#b7e490 !important; } The color is just an example (you can choose what you like), and you can of course apply any CSS there, like color: for the foreground color etc. I've found a workaround within Colorful Tabs. I've been playing with the settings, trying to figure out how the thing works. Just setting the Fading Level to about 6 fades the non-active tab colors only, letting the active tab stand out nicely. If that stops working I'll try your suggestion with Stylish! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed
Bill Spikowski wrote: Jens Hatlak wrote: Bill Spikowski wrote: Jens Hatlak wrote: I posted the exact version you need to install: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/colorfultabs/versions/#version-4.8.1.6.1 I just installed this on SM 2.2; the Add-Ons Manager says it's not compatible, but the tabs sure are colorful now! All I really want is to highlight the current tab with any color that's different than the other tabs. Can this extension do that? I don't think so. What you want is this: 1. Install Stylish 1.2 (needs compatibility override for SM 2.2) or do the below in your userChrome.css 2. add this style: .tabbrowser-tab[selected=true] hbox { background-color:#b7e490 !important; } The color is just an example (you can choose what you like), and you can of course apply any CSS there, like color: for the foreground color etc. I've found a workaround within Colorful Tabs. I've been playing with the settings, trying to figure out how the thing works. Just setting the Fading Level to about 6 fades the non-active tab colors only, letting the active tab stand out nicely. If that stops working I'll try your suggestion with Stylish! I know that was one of the things I found to be better by simply changing from the default Theme to the SM Modern Theme. In either case the active tab is highlighted, but I prefer the look/feel of SM Modern. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed
Ant wrote: Does ColorfulTabs extension still work and help? In v2.0.x and earlier, it helped. I haven't upgraded to v2.2 yet. ColorfulTabs 4.8.1.6.1 works with compatibility checks disabled. I configured it to apply a host-based coloring. Additionally I set up this style with Stylish: .tabbrowser-tab[selected=true] hbox { font-weight:bold !important; } HTH Jens -- Jens Hatlak http://jens.hatlak.de/ SeaMonkey Trunk Tracker http://smtt.blogspot.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed
Le 12 juillet 2011, Ant a écrit : I use hot keys: ctrl-w. Just be careful not to hit q key that is right next to it to exit SM. I wished I could change it or at least have SM2 prompt me! :( If you have several tabs open it should. Prefs Browser Tabbed browsing Warn me when... -- LL ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed
On Jul 13, 12:56 am, Jens Hatlak j...@junetz.de wrote: Ant wrote: Does ColorfulTabs extension still work and help? In v2.0.x and earlier, it helped. I haven't upgraded to v2.2 yet. ColorfulTabs 4.8.1.6.1 works with compatibility checks disabled. I configured it to apply a host-based coloring. Additionally I set up this style with Stylish: .tabbrowser-tab[selected=true] hbox { font-weight:bold !important; } Thanks. :) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed
Jens Hatlak wrote: Ant wrote: Does ColorfulTabs extension still work and help? In v2.0.x and earlier, it helped. I haven't upgraded to v2.2 yet. ColorfulTabs 4.8.1.6.1 works with compatibility checks disabled. I configured it to apply a host-based coloring. Additionally I set up this style with Stylish: .tabbrowser-tab[selected=true] hbox { font-weight:bold !important; } HTH Jens How can I install it in SM2.2? Even with compatibility checking for add ons disabled, seamonkey refuses to install this version. I have an older version which no longer works and will not update. I already installed the compatibility reporter add on, but it has not helped in this case. I would really like to get colorful tabs to work again. Margo Guda. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed
Does ColorfulTabs extension still work and help? In v2.0.x and earlier, it helped. I haven't upgraded to v2.2 yet. On 7/11/2011 5:34 AM PT, JohnQPublic typed: Sorry to say it, but the tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser just aren't up to snuff... The active tab needs to be highlighted with a different color, so it's easy to see. Firefox accomplishes this by making the active tab lighter, which works fine. If there's any difference in SeaMonkey, I can't see it with my CRT monitor. I realize that LCD monitors render grayscales better, but SeaMonkey should take that into consideration. I've looked through the settings and can't find any way to fix this, so presume it's built-in(?). Apparently the only way to close a tab in SeaMonkey with the mouse is to click the little x at the rightside of the tab bar, but it's too small to hit easily quickly with the mouse pointer. Also that's much less satisfactory than having an x on each tab. Without an x on each tab, it's necessary to first select a tab then click the x. Very cumbersome. Or am I overlooking something obvious as a newbie? Yes, I'm aware of the keyboard shortcuts affecting tabs, but I normally use a mouse for these operations. -- When many work together for a goal, great things may be accomplished. It is said a lion cub was killed by a single colony of ants. --Saskya Pandita /\___/\ Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed
On 7/11/2011 12:15 PM PT, Juergen Herz typed: Apparently the only way to close a tab in SeaMonkey with the mouse is to click the little x at the rightside of the tab bar I'm surprised no one mentioned middle clicking a tab as method for closing it. I never used another method. Granted, not every mouse has a 3rd mouse button but nearly every. I use hot keys: ctrl-w. Just be careful not to hit q key that is right next to it to exit SM. I wished I could change it or at least have SM2 prompt me! :( -- If I want to be a robber, I rob the king's treasury. If I want to be a hunter, I hunt the rhino. What is the use of robbing beggars and hunting ants? So if you want to love, love God. --Swami Vivekananda /\___/\ Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed
JohnQPublic wrote: Sorry to say it, but the tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser just aren't up to snuff... The active tab needs to be highlighted with a different color, so it's easy to see. Firefox accomplishes this by making the active tab lighter, which works fine. If there's any difference in SeaMonkey, I can't see it with my CRT monitor. I realize that LCD monitors render grayscales better, but SeaMonkey should take that into consideration. I've looked through the settings and can't find any way to fix this, so presume it's built-in(?). Apparently the only way to close a tab in SeaMonkey with the mouse is to click the little x at the rightside of the tab bar, but it's too small to hit easily quickly with the mouse pointer. Also that's much less satisfactory than having an x on each tab. Without an x on each tab, it's necessary to first select a tab then click the x. Very cumbersome. Or am I overlooking something obvious as a newbie? Yes, I'm aware of the keyboard shortcuts affecting tabs, but I normally use a mouse for these operations. Try a different theme? SeaMonkey Modern 2.2 makes the active tab lighter than the inactive tabs. Right clicking brings up a menu that has Close Tab right at the top. I see no tiny x in the modern theme. YMMV with SM portable. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed
On 11.07.2011 07:34, JohnQPublic wrote: --- Original Message --- Sorry to say it, but the tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser just aren't up to snuff... The active tab needs to be highlighted with a different color, so it's easy to see. Firefox accomplishes this by making the active tab lighter, which works fine. If there's any difference in SeaMonkey, I can't see it with my CRT monitor. I realize that LCD monitors render grayscales better, but SeaMonkey should take that into consideration. I've looked through the settings and can't find any way to fix this, so presume it's built-in(?). Apparently the only way to close a tab in SeaMonkey with the mouse is to click the little x at the rightside of the tab bar, but it's too small to hit easily quickly with the mouse pointer. Also that's much less satisfactory than having an x on each tab. Without an x on each tab, it's necessary to first select a tab then click the x. Very cumbersome. Or am I overlooking something obvious as a newbie? Yes, I'm aware of the keyboard shortcuts affecting tabs, but I normally use a mouse for these operations. Add to your userChrome.css: .tabbrowser-tab[selected=true] hbox, .tabbrowser-tab[selected=true] .tab-close-button { background-color: #88 !important; color: #fff !important; } .tabbrowser-tab[selected=true]:hover hbox, .tabbrowser-tab[selected=true]:hover .tab-close-button { background-color: #BB !important; color: #fff !important; } This will hilite the active tab to blue. Dunno about making the X any larger. -- *Jay Garcia - Netscape Champion* www.ufaq.org Netscape - Firefox - SeaMonkey - Thunderbird ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed
JohnQPublic wrote: Sorry to say it, but the tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser just aren't up to snuff... The active tab needs to be highlighted with a different color, so it's easy to see. Firefox accomplishes this by making the active tab lighter, which works fine. If there's any difference in SeaMonkey, I can't see it with my CRT monitor. I realize that LCD monitors render grayscales better, but SeaMonkey should take that into consideration. I've looked through the settings and can't find any way to fix this, so presume it's built-in(?). On my screen, the currently selected tab looks significantly lighter than the non-selected tabs. Additionally, if you hover your mouse over the tabs, small images are displayed of the non-selected tab screens. Nothing is displayed when hovering over the currently selected tab, because it is currently selected. HTH Daniel Apparently the only way to close a tab in SeaMonkey with the mouse is to click the little x at the rightside of the tab bar, but it's too small to hit easily quickly with the mouse pointer. Also that's much less satisfactory than having an x on each tab. Without an x on each tab, it's necessary to first select a tab then click the x. Very cumbersome. Or am I overlooking something obvious as a newbie? Yes, I'm aware of the keyboard shortcuts affecting tabs, but I normally use a mouse for these operations. -- Daniel with just XXX messages to read in moz.general ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed
On 11.07.2011 08:19, Daniel wrote: --- Original Message --- JohnQPublic wrote: Sorry to say it, but the tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser just aren't up to snuff... The active tab needs to be highlighted with a different color, so it's easy to see. Firefox accomplishes this by making the active tab lighter, which works fine. If there's any difference in SeaMonkey, I can't see it with my CRT monitor. I realize that LCD monitors render grayscales better, but SeaMonkey should take that into consideration. I've looked through the settings and can't find any way to fix this, so presume it's built-in(?). On my screen, the currently selected tab looks significantly lighter than the non-selected tabs. Additionally, if you hover your mouse over the tabs, small images are displayed of the non-selected tab screens. Nothing is displayed when hovering over the currently selected tab, because it is currently selected. HTH Daniel Apparently the only way to close a tab in SeaMonkey with the mouse is to click the little x at the rightside of the tab bar, but it's too small to hit easily quickly with the mouse pointer. Also that's much less satisfactory than having an x on each tab. Without an x on each tab, it's necessary to first select a tab then click the x. Very cumbersome. Or am I overlooking something obvious as a newbie? Yes, I'm aware of the keyboard shortcuts affecting tabs, but I normally use a mouse for these operations. Please bottom post, thanks. As I get older, I have somewhat the same problems - being able to differentiate active tabs as well as other UI functionality. Making the active tab a different color is far better than just making it lighter, IMHO of course. Same goes for other buttons and such where opposing colors can make all the difference. -- *Jay Garcia - Netscape Champion* www.ufaq.org Netscape - Firefox - SeaMonkey - Thunderbird ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed
JohnQPublic wrote: Sorry to say it, but the tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser just aren't up to snuff... The active tab needs to be highlighted with a different color, so it's easy to see. Firefox accomplishes this by making the active tab lighter, which works fine. If there's any difference in SeaMonkey, I can't see it with my CRT monitor. I realize that LCD monitors render grayscales better, but SeaMonkey should take that into consideration. I've looked through the settings and can't find any way to fix this, so presume it's built-in(?). Apparently the only way to close a tab in SeaMonkey with the mouse is to click the little x at the rightside of the tab bar, but it's too small to hit easily quickly with the mouse pointer. Also that's much less satisfactory than having an x on each tab. Without an x on each tab, it's necessary to first select a tab then click the x. Very cumbersome. Or am I overlooking something obvious as a newbie? Yes, I'm aware of the keyboard shortcuts affecting tabs, but I normally use a mouse for these operations. I also find that's it's become nearly impossible to identify the active tab in SM 2.1. This is a pretty big problem to me -- I hope a solution will be forthcoming! OTOH, please keep the single x for closing tabs! It's one of the best features of SM, relative to IE and a few other browsers I occasionally use. If a user is having trouble locating a single x, imagine their trouble locating multiple x's on each tab! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed
Jay Garcia wrote: On 11.07.2011 07:34, JohnQPublic wrote: --- Original Message --- Sorry to say it, but the tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser just aren't up to snuff... The active tab needs to be highlighted with a different color, so it's easy to see. Firefox accomplishes this by making the active tab lighter, which works fine. If there's any difference in SeaMonkey, I can't see it with my CRT monitor. I realize that LCD monitors render grayscales better, but SeaMonkey should take that into consideration. I've looked through the settings and can't find any way to fix this, so presume it's built-in(?). Apparently the only way to close a tab in SeaMonkey with the mouse is to click the little x at the rightside of the tab bar, but it's too small to hit easily quickly with the mouse pointer. Also that's much less satisfactory than having an x on each tab. Without an x on each tab, it's necessary to first select a tab then click the x. Very cumbersome. Or am I overlooking something obvious as a newbie? Yes, I'm aware of the keyboard shortcuts affecting tabs, but I normally use a mouse for these operations. Add to your userChrome.css: .tabbrowser-tab[selected=true] hbox, .tabbrowser-tab[selected=true] .tab-close-button { background-color: #88 !important; color: #fff !important; } .tabbrowser-tab[selected=true]:hover hbox, .tabbrowser-tab[selected=true]:hover .tab-close-button { background-color: #BB !important; color: #fff !important; } This will hilite the active tab to blue. Dunno about making the X any larger. I tried this on 2.0.14 and it works a treat! It's nice to have experts around. Thanks Jay! -- Gerald Ross Cochran, GA I'm not easy, but I can be tricked. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed
On 7/11/11 6:19 AM, Daniel wrote: JohnQPublic wrote: Sorry to say it, but the tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser just aren't up to snuff... The active tab needs to be highlighted with a different color, so it's easy to see. Firefox accomplishes this by making the active tab lighter, which works fine. If there's any difference in SeaMonkey, I can't see it with my CRT monitor. I realize that LCD monitors render grayscales better, but SeaMonkey should take that into consideration. I've looked through the settings and can't find any way to fix this, so presume it's built-in(?). On my screen, the currently selected tab looks significantly lighter than the non-selected tabs. Additionally, if you hover your mouse over the tabs, small images are displayed of the non-selected tab screens. Nothing is displayed when hovering over the currently selected tab, because it is currently selected. HTH Daniel Apparently the only way to close a tab in SeaMonkey with the mouse is to click the little x at the rightside of the tab bar, but it's too small to hit easily quickly with the mouse pointer. Also that's much less satisfactory than having an x on each tab. Without an x on each tab, it's necessary to first select a tab then click the x. Very cumbersome. Or am I overlooking something obvious as a newbie? Yes, I'm aware of the keyboard shortcuts affecting tabs, but I normally use a mouse for these operations. I found the display of tooltips for the content of tabs to be @*!!##%% annoying. I set browser.tabs.tooltippreview.enable to false to disable that feature. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ On occasion, I might filter and ignore all newsgroup messages posted through GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent because of spam from that source. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed
On 7/11/11 5:34 AM, JohnQPublic wrote: Sorry to say it, but the tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser just aren't up to snuff... The active tab needs to be highlighted with a different color, so it's easy to see. Firefox accomplishes this by making the active tab lighter, which works fine. If there's any difference in SeaMonkey, I can't see it with my CRT monitor. I realize that LCD monitors render grayscales better, but SeaMonkey should take that into consideration. I've looked through the settings and can't find any way to fix this, so presume it's built-in(?). Apparently the only way to close a tab in SeaMonkey with the mouse is to click the little x at the rightside of the tab bar, but it's too small to hit easily quickly with the mouse pointer. Also that's much less satisfactory than having an x on each tab. Without an x on each tab, it's necessary to first select a tab then click the x. Very cumbersome. Or am I overlooking something obvious as a newbie? Yes, I'm aware of the keyboard shortcuts affecting tabs, but I normally use a mouse for these operations. This is bug #657275 at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=657275. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ On occasion, I might filter and ignore all newsgroup messages posted through GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent because of spam from that source. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed
On 11.07.2011 10:09, Gerald Ross wrote: --- Original Message --- Jay Garcia wrote: On 11.07.2011 07:34, JohnQPublic wrote: --- Original Message --- Sorry to say it, but the tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser just aren't up to snuff... The active tab needs to be highlighted with a different color, so it's easy to see. Firefox accomplishes this by making the active tab lighter, which works fine. If there's any difference in SeaMonkey, I can't see it with my CRT monitor. I realize that LCD monitors render grayscales better, but SeaMonkey should take that into consideration. I've looked through the settings and can't find any way to fix this, so presume it's built-in(?). Apparently the only way to close a tab in SeaMonkey with the mouse is to click the little x at the rightside of the tab bar, but it's too small to hit easily quickly with the mouse pointer. Also that's much less satisfactory than having an x on each tab. Without an x on each tab, it's necessary to first select a tab then click the x. Very cumbersome. Or am I overlooking something obvious as a newbie? Yes, I'm aware of the keyboard shortcuts affecting tabs, but I normally use a mouse for these operations. Add to your userChrome.css: .tabbrowser-tab[selected=true] hbox, .tabbrowser-tab[selected=true] .tab-close-button { background-color: #88 !important; color: #fff !important; } .tabbrowser-tab[selected=true]:hover hbox, .tabbrowser-tab[selected=true]:hover .tab-close-button { background-color: #BB !important; color: #fff !important; } This will hilite the active tab to blue. Dunno about making the X any larger. I tried this on 2.0.14 and it works a treat! It's nice to have experts around. Thanks Jay! Well not an expert but I DID know where to find it! 8-) -- *Jay Garcia - Netscape Champion* www.ufaq.org Netscape - Firefox - SeaMonkey - Thunderbird ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed
On 2011-07-11 14:34, JohnQPublic wrote: Apparently the only way to close a tab in SeaMonkey with the mouse is to click the little x at the rightside of the tab bar I'm surprised no one mentioned middle clicking a tab as method for closing it. I never used another method. Granted, not every mouse has a 3rd mouse button but nearly every. Juergen ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed
JohnQPublic wrote: Sorry to say it, but the tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser just aren't up to snuff... The active tab needs to be highlighted with a different color, so it's easy to see. Firefox accomplishes this by making the active tab lighter, which works fine. If there's any difference in SeaMonkey, I can't see it with my CRT monitor. I realize that LCD monitors render grayscales better, but SeaMonkey should take that into consideration. I've looked through the settings and can't find any way to fix this, so presume it's built-in(?). Apparently the only way to close a tab in SeaMonkey with the mouse is to click the little x at the rightside of the tab bar, but it's too small to hit easily quickly with the mouse pointer. Also that's much less satisfactory than having an x on each tab. Without an x on each tab, it's necessary to first select a tab then click the x. Very cumbersome. Or am I overlooking something obvious as a newbie? Yes, I'm aware of the keyboard shortcuts affecting tabs, but I normally use a mouse for these operations. SeaTab X ( http://tom-cat.com/mozilla/seamonkey/extensions-seatabx.html ) will place a closer X on the tab. It says it works with SM2.2. (If it doesn't, use the Compatibilty Reporter add-on ( https://addons.mozilla.org/seamonkey/addon/add-on-compatibility-reporter/ ). (I have version bumped the xpi installer to work with 2.* and it works fine.) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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SeaTab X and Jay Garcia's tip have saved the day!! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed
On 2011/07/11 07:34 (GMT-0500) JohnQPublic composed: Sorry to say it, but the tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser just aren't up to snuff... Your opinion. The active tab needs to be highlighted with a different color, That's the way it is here on my CRT, same as it has been for many years: http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Moz/tabsclosebuttonSMm1400.jpg Apparently the only way to close a tab in SeaMonkey with the mouse is to click the little x at the rightside of the tab bar, but it's too small to hit easily quickly with the mouse pointer. Also that's much less satisfactory than having an x on each tab. Without an x on each tab, it's necessary to first select a tab then click the x. Very cumbersome. Or am I overlooking something obvious as a newbie? You're overlooking the context menu, and overlooking what happens to users who keep open many tabs in browsers with an X button on every tab. Imagine yourself trying to hit the correct X if an X was on every tab in the above picture. First thing I do in every new FF profile is get the Xs off the tabs. -- The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive. Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed
Gerald Ross wrote: Jay Garcia wrote: On 11.07.2011 07:34, JohnQPublic wrote: --- Original Message --- Sorry to say it, but the tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser just aren't up to snuff... The active tab needs to be highlighted with a different color, so it's easy to see. Firefox accomplishes this by making the active tab lighter, which works fine. If there's any difference in SeaMonkey, I can't see it with my CRT monitor. I realize that LCD monitors render grayscales better, but SeaMonkey should take that into consideration. I've looked through the settings and can't find any way to fix this, so presume it's built-in(?). Apparently the only way to close a tab in SeaMonkey with the mouse is to click the little x at the rightside of the tab bar, but it's too small to hit easily quickly with the mouse pointer. Also that's much less satisfactory than having an x on each tab. Without an x on each tab, it's necessary to first select a tab then click the x. Very cumbersome. Or am I overlooking something obvious as a newbie? Yes, I'm aware of the keyboard shortcuts affecting tabs, but I normally use a mouse for these operations. Add to your userChrome.css: .tabbrowser-tab[selected=true] hbox, .tabbrowser-tab[selected=true] .tab-close-button { background-color: #88 !important; color: #fff !important; } .tabbrowser-tab[selected=true]:hover hbox, .tabbrowser-tab[selected=true]:hover .tab-close-button { background-color: #BB !important; color: #fff !important; } This will hilite the active tab to blue. Dunno about making the X any larger. I tried this on 2.0.14 and it works a treat! It's nice to have experts around. Thanks Jay! I found that with 2.0.14 I simply couldn't stand the new Default theme - lasted about 2 days with it; changed it to SM Modern and have been as happy (as I can be) ever since... ...tiny buttons in the download dialog withstanding. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed
Interviewed by CNN on 11/07/2011 23:16, Felix Miata told the world: You're overlooking the context menu, and overlooking what happens to users who keep open many tabs in browsers with an X button on every tab. Imagine yourself trying to hit the correct X if an X was on every tab in the above picture. First thing I do in every new FF profile is get the Xs off the tabs. One feature of the Multizilla mega-extension I liked was the ability to have the X and the site icon in the same space: it normally looked like the site icon, but if you hovered the mouse over it it turned into the X. It saved a lot of space on the tab bar. Yes, some users might prefer to remove the icon entirely, leaving only text. That's their choice. But I think that the x-when-hover is a nice middle ground. (Chrome went the other way, keeping the X but removing the site icon... it's one of the things I don't like on it.) -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... Sent from my Mars Rover. *Added by TagZilla 0.066.2 running on Seamonkey 2.1 * Get it at http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#tagzilla ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed
Juergen Herz juer...@jherz.redirectme.net wrote in message news:elidnrwdy-ht1obtnz2dnuvz_rydn...@mozilla.org... On 2011-07-11 14:34, JohnQPublic wrote: Apparently the only way to close a tab in SeaMonkey with the mouse is to click the little x at the rightside of the tab bar I'm surprised no one mentioned middle clicking a tab as method for closing it. I never used another method. Granted, not every mouse has a 3rd mouse button but nearly every. Thanks for the tip! It works fine with Firefox too. That's definitely the easiest way provided the spring on the 3rd mouse button (a middle rollerwheel on my mice) isn't too strong. I've tried 2 mice and one was OK, the other requires an extra strong fingerpress to click the middle button. (It tends to roll rather than be clicked.) That will be one of my criteria when I go mouse shopping next time. -- J.Q.P. (FF3.6.18 default browser, customized FF5.0_portable with FF3+ theme, Chrome12_portable, Opera11_portable, Iron12_portable, Maxthon3_portable, SeaMonkey2.2_portable, IE6, Outlook Express default mail/news, XP Home SP3) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey