Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed

2011-07-18 Thread Lucas Levrel

Le 13 juillet 2011, Ant a écrit :


On Jul 13, 5:56 am, Lucas Levrel lucas.lev...@u-pec.fr wrote:

Le 12 juillet 2011, Ant a écrit :


I use hot keys: ctrl-w. Just be careful not to hit q key that is right next
to it to exit SM. I wished I could change it or at least have SM2 prompt me!
:(


If you have several tabs open it should.
Prefs  Browser  Tabbed browsing  Warn me when...


Nope. It exits with ctrl-q hotkeys without any warnings/promptings on
my home (updated XP Pro. SP3) and office (updated 64-bit Windows 7 HP)
PCs. :(


Looks abnormal. What do you get in about:config if you look for 
browser.tabs.warn (I get three default set at true)?


Do you see the problem with a fresh profile?


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Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed

2011-07-15 Thread JD

Jens Hatlak wrote:

Bill Spikowski wrote:

Jens Hatlak wrote:

I posted the exact version you need to install:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/colorfultabs/versions/#version-4.8.1.6.1



I just installed this on SM 2.2; the Add-Ons Manager says it's not
compatible, but the tabs sure are colorful now!

All I really want is to highlight the current tab with any color that's
different than the other tabs. Can this extension do that?


I don't think so. What you want is this:

1. Install Stylish 1.2 (needs compatibility override for SM 2.2) or do
the below in your userChrome.css
2. add this style:

.tabbrowser-tab[selected=true]  hbox {
background-color:#b7e490 !important;
}

The color is just an example (you can choose what you like), and you can
of course apply any CSS there, like color: for the foreground color etc.

HTH

Jens



That's what I was looking for. Thanks!

Now, how do I change the color to a light blue?

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Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed

2011-07-15 Thread Jens Hatlak

JD wrote:

Now, how do I change the color to a light blue?


Search Google for web color chooser, pick yours and copy the #ABCDEF 
(RGB) value.


HTH

Jens

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Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed

2011-07-15 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
JD wrote:

 Jens Hatlak wrote:
 .. userChrome.css
 2. add this style:

 .tabbrowser-tab[selected=true]  hbox {
 background-color:#b7e490 !important;
 }

 The color is just an example (you can choose what you like),
 
 Now, how do I change the color to a light blue?

Jens has told you the 'how' .. but you can select a color from this
comprehensive listing:

http://www.somacon.com/p142.php

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Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed

2011-07-15 Thread JD

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

JD wrote:


Jens Hatlak wrote:

.. userChrome.css
2. add this style:

.tabbrowser-tab[selected=true]  hbox {
background-color:#b7e490 !important;
}

The color is just an example (you can choose what you like),


Now, how do I change the color to a light blue?


Jens has told you the 'how' .. but you can select a color from this
comprehensive listing:

http://www.somacon.com/p142.php



Azure it is: #F0

Thanks Beau!

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Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed

2011-07-15 Thread JD

Jens Hatlak wrote:

JD wrote:

Now, how do I change the color to a light blue?


Search Google for web color chooser, pick yours and copy the #ABCDEF
(RGB) value.

HTH

Jens



Beau provided a link that works for me. Azure it is: #F0


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Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed

2011-07-15 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
JD wrote:

 http://www.somacon.com/p142.php
 
 Azure it is: #F0
 
 Thanks Beau!

Yer welcome.   ;-)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azure_%28color%29

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Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed

2011-07-14 Thread Daniel

Jay Garcia wrote:

On 11.07.2011 08:19, Daniel wrote:

  --- Original Message ---


JohnQPublic wrote:

Sorry to say it, but the tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser just aren't up to
snuff...

The active tab needs to be highlighted with a different color, so it's
easy
to see. Firefox accomplishes this by making the active tab lighter, which
works fine. If there's any difference in SeaMonkey, I can't see it
with my
CRT monitor. I realize that LCD monitors render grayscales better, but
SeaMonkey should take that into consideration. I've looked through the
settings and can't find any way to fix this, so presume it's built-in(?).



On my screen, the currently selected tab looks significantly lighter
than the non-selected tabs.

Additionally, if you hover your mouse over the tabs, small images are
displayed of the non-selected tab screens. Nothing is displayed when
hovering over the currently selected tab, because it is currently selected.

HTH

Daniel


Apparently the only way to close a tab in SeaMonkey with the mouse is to
click the little x at the rightside of the tab bar, but it's too small to
hit easily   quickly with the mouse pointer. Also that's much less
satisfactory than having an x on each tab. Without an x on each tab, it's
necessary to first select a tab then click the x. Very cumbersome. Or
am I
overlooking something obvious as a newbie? Yes, I'm aware of the keyboard
shortcuts affecting tabs, but I normally use a mouse for these
operations.





Please bottom post, thanks.

As I get older, I have somewhat the same problems - being able to
differentiate active tabs as well as other UI functionality. Making the
active tab a different color is far better than just making it lighter,
IMHO of course. Same goes for other buttons and such where opposing
colors can make all the difference.



Jay, I'm not trying to start another top/interspersed/bottom posting 
thread,here.


What I should have done, as I was only responding to the top para, I 
should have deleted the bottom para, so I would then have, effectively, 
been bottom posting.


Sorry!

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Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed

2011-07-14 Thread Bill Spikowski

Jens Hatlak wrote:

Margo Guda wrote:

Jens Hatlak wrote:

Ant wrote:

Does ColorfulTabs extension still work and help? In v2.0.x and earlier,
it helped. I haven't upgraded to v2.2 yet.


ColorfulTabs 4.8.1.6.1 works with compatibility checks disabled.
(...)

How can I install it in SM2.2? Even with compatibility checking for add
ons disabled, seamonkey refuses to install this version. I have an older
version which no longer works and will not update. I already installed
the compatibility reporter add on, but it has not helped in this case.


I posted the exact version you need to install:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/colorfultabs/versions/#version-4.8.1.6.1



I just installed this on SM 2.2; the Add-Ons Manager says it's not compatible, 
but the tabs sure are colorful now!


All I really want is to highlight the current tab with any color that's 
different than the other tabs. Can this extension do that?

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Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed

2011-07-14 Thread Margo Guda



Jens Hatlak wrote:

Margo Guda wrote:

Jens Hatlak wrote:

Ant wrote:

Does ColorfulTabs extension still work and help? In v2.0.x and earlier,
it helped. I haven't upgraded to v2.2 yet.


ColorfulTabs 4.8.1.6.1 works with compatibility checks disabled.
(...)

How can I install it in SM2.2? Even with compatibility checking for add
ons disabled, seamonkey refuses to install this version. I have an older
version which no longer works and will not update. I already installed
the compatibility reporter add on, but it has not helped in this case.


I posted the exact version you need to install:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/colorfultabs/versions/#version-4.8.1.6.1


On Linux or Mac it will say it's only for Windows, but you can safely
ignore that and click Install for Windows anyway.

HTH

Jens

Thank you, it does help. I have added the bolding for the selected tab 
and it is now back where I wanted it, or even better.


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Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed

2011-07-14 Thread Jens Hatlak

Ant wrote:

Jens Hatlak wrote:

ColorfulTabs 4.8.1.6.1 works with compatibility checks disabled.

 (...)
On Linux or Mac it will say it's only for Windows, but you can safely
ignore that and click Install for Windows anyway.


Wait. Works with: * Firefox 4.0b1 - 4.0.*. I am still using v4.6.5 in
my SM v2.0.14. Are you saying we can use newer versions that don't say SM?


I'm saying you can use that very version that I specified.

Unfortunately add-on authors do not always update the compatibility 
information in all places. Basically there are two: What AMO claims, and 
what the add-on file (XPI/install.rdf) claims. The latter determines 
which applications the add-on is compatible with. If an application 
(e.g. SeaMonkey) is not listed there, the add-on won't install, even if 
AMO tells differently (e.g. that's the case with Slim Add-on Manager 
version 5.0). I know that sucks, but it's a fact.


Now if an add-on file claims compatibility with any version of SeaMonkey 
and you have the Add-on Compatibility Reporter installed, then you'll be 
able to install that add-on, even if AMO says it's not compatible with 
that application. This is the case with ColorfulTabs 4.8.1.6.1.


Lastly, if an add-on file claims compatibility with an application but 
with a lower version than what AMO claims, AMO wins. This is actually a 
good thing since it allows add-on authors to simply bump the AMO data 
and be done with it; no need to release new files. Now if only AMO was 
able to check its own compatibility claims against those of the add-on 
file in question...


HTH

Jens

P.S.: Before anyone asks: I won't check into those AMO deficiencies. 
AFAIK they switched their back-end from PHP to Python, and my abilities 
there are 10:0.


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Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed

2011-07-14 Thread Jens Hatlak

Bill Spikowski wrote:

Jens Hatlak wrote:

I posted the exact version you need to install:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/colorfultabs/versions/#version-4.8.1.6.1


I just installed this on SM 2.2; the Add-Ons Manager says it's not
compatible, but the tabs sure are colorful now!

All I really want is to highlight the current tab with any color that's
different than the other tabs. Can this extension do that?


I don't think so. What you want is this:

1. Install Stylish 1.2 (needs compatibility override for SM 2.2) or do 
the below in your userChrome.css

2. add this style:

.tabbrowser-tab[selected=true]  hbox {
  background-color:#b7e490 !important;
}

The color is just an example (you can choose what you like), and you can 
of course apply any CSS there, like color: for the foreground color etc.


HTH

Jens

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Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed

2011-07-14 Thread Bill Spikowski

Jens Hatlak wrote:

Bill Spikowski wrote:

Jens Hatlak wrote:

I posted the exact version you need to install:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/colorfultabs/versions/#version-4.8.1.6.1



I just installed this on SM 2.2; the Add-Ons Manager says it's not
compatible, but the tabs sure are colorful now!

All I really want is to highlight the current tab with any color that's
different than the other tabs. Can this extension do that?


I don't think so. What you want is this:

1. Install Stylish 1.2 (needs compatibility override for SM 2.2) or do the below
in your userChrome.css
2. add this style:

.tabbrowser-tab[selected=true]  hbox {
background-color:#b7e490 !important;
}

The color is just an example (you can choose what you like), and you can of
course apply any CSS there, like color: for the foreground color etc.




I've found a workaround within Colorful Tabs. I've been playing with the 
settings, trying to figure out how the thing works. Just setting the Fading 
Level to about 6 fades the non-active tab colors only, letting the active tab 
stand out nicely.


If that stops working I'll try your suggestion with Stylish!
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Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed

2011-07-14 Thread Rufus

Bill Spikowski wrote:

Jens Hatlak wrote:

Bill Spikowski wrote:

Jens Hatlak wrote:

I posted the exact version you need to install:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/colorfultabs/versions/#version-4.8.1.6.1




I just installed this on SM 2.2; the Add-Ons Manager says it's not
compatible, but the tabs sure are colorful now!

All I really want is to highlight the current tab with any color that's
different than the other tabs. Can this extension do that?


I don't think so. What you want is this:

1. Install Stylish 1.2 (needs compatibility override for SM 2.2) or do
the below
in your userChrome.css
2. add this style:

.tabbrowser-tab[selected=true]  hbox {
background-color:#b7e490 !important;
}

The color is just an example (you can choose what you like), and you
can of
course apply any CSS there, like color: for the foreground color etc.




I've found a workaround within Colorful Tabs. I've been playing with the
settings, trying to figure out how the thing works. Just setting the
Fading Level to about 6 fades the non-active tab colors only, letting
the active tab stand out nicely.

If that stops working I'll try your suggestion with Stylish!


I know that was one of the things I found to be better by simply 
changing from the default Theme to the SM Modern Theme.  In either case 
the active tab is highlighted, but I prefer the look/feel of SM Modern.


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Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed

2011-07-13 Thread Jens Hatlak

Ant wrote:

Does ColorfulTabs extension still work and help? In v2.0.x and earlier,
it helped. I haven't upgraded to v2.2 yet.


ColorfulTabs 4.8.1.6.1 works with compatibility checks disabled.

I configured it to apply a host-based coloring. Additionally I set up 
this style with Stylish:


.tabbrowser-tab[selected=true]  hbox {
  font-weight:bold !important;
}

HTH

Jens

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Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed

2011-07-13 Thread Lucas Levrel

Le 12 juillet 2011, Ant a écrit :

I use hot keys: ctrl-w. Just be careful not to hit q key that is right next 
to it to exit SM. I wished I could change it or at least have SM2 prompt me! 
:(


If you have several tabs open it should.
Prefs  Browser  Tabbed browsing  Warn me when...

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Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed

2011-07-13 Thread Ant
On Jul 13, 12:56 am, Jens Hatlak j...@junetz.de wrote:
 Ant wrote:
  Does ColorfulTabs extension still work and help? In v2.0.x and earlier,
  it helped. I haven't upgraded to v2.2 yet.

 ColorfulTabs 4.8.1.6.1 works with compatibility checks disabled.

 I configured it to apply a host-based coloring. Additionally I set up
 this style with Stylish:

 .tabbrowser-tab[selected=true]  hbox {
    font-weight:bold !important;

 }

Thanks. :)
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Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed

2011-07-13 Thread Margo Guda



Jens Hatlak wrote:

Ant wrote:

Does ColorfulTabs extension still work and help? In v2.0.x and earlier,
it helped. I haven't upgraded to v2.2 yet.


ColorfulTabs 4.8.1.6.1 works with compatibility checks disabled.

I configured it to apply a host-based coloring. Additionally I set up this
style with Stylish:

.tabbrowser-tab[selected=true]  hbox {
font-weight:bold !important;
}

HTH

Jens

How can I install it in SM2.2? Even with compatibility checking for add ons 
disabled, seamonkey refuses to install this version. I have an older version 
which no longer works and will not update. I already installed the 
compatibility reporter add on, but it has not helped in this case. I would 
really like to get colorful tabs to work again.


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Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed

2011-07-12 Thread Ant
Does ColorfulTabs extension still work and help? In v2.0.x and earlier, 
it helped. I haven't upgraded to v2.2 yet.



On 7/11/2011 5:34 AM PT, JohnQPublic typed:


Sorry to say it, but the tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser just aren't up to
snuff...

The active tab needs to be highlighted with a different color, so it's easy
to see. Firefox accomplishes this by making the active tab lighter, which
works fine. If there's any difference in SeaMonkey, I can't see it with my
CRT monitor. I realize that LCD monitors render grayscales better, but
SeaMonkey should take that into consideration. I've looked through the
settings and can't find any way to fix this, so presume it's built-in(?).

Apparently the only way to close a tab in SeaMonkey with the mouse is to
click the little x at the rightside of the tab bar, but it's too small to
hit easily  quickly with the mouse pointer. Also that's much less
satisfactory than having an x on each tab. Without an x on each tab, it's
necessary to first select a tab then click the x. Very cumbersome. Or am I
overlooking something obvious as a newbie? Yes, I'm aware of the keyboard
shortcuts affecting tabs, but I normally use a mouse for these operations.

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Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed

2011-07-12 Thread Ant

On 7/11/2011 12:15 PM PT, Juergen Herz typed:


Apparently the only way to close a tab in SeaMonkey with the mouse is to
click the little x at the rightside of the tab bar


I'm surprised no one mentioned middle clicking a tab as method for
closing it. I never used another method.
Granted, not every mouse has a 3rd mouse button but nearly every.


I use hot keys: ctrl-w. Just be careful not to hit q key that is right 
next to it to exit SM. I wished I could change it or at least have SM2 
prompt me! :(

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Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed

2011-07-11 Thread WLS

JohnQPublic wrote:

Sorry to say it, but the tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser just aren't up to
snuff...

The active tab needs to be highlighted with a different color, so it's easy
to see. Firefox accomplishes this by making the active tab lighter, which
works fine. If there's any difference in SeaMonkey, I can't see it with my
CRT monitor. I realize that LCD monitors render grayscales better, but
SeaMonkey should take that into consideration. I've looked through the
settings and can't find any way to fix this, so presume it's built-in(?).

Apparently the only way to close a tab in SeaMonkey with the mouse is to
click the little x at the rightside of the tab bar, but it's too small to
hit easily  quickly with the mouse pointer. Also that's much less
satisfactory than having an x on each tab. Without an x on each tab, it's
necessary to first select a tab then click the x. Very cumbersome. Or am I
overlooking something obvious as a newbie? Yes, I'm aware of the keyboard
shortcuts affecting tabs, but I normally use a mouse for these operations.


Try a different theme? SeaMonkey Modern 2.2 makes the active tab lighter 
than the inactive tabs.


Right clicking brings up a menu that has Close Tab right at the top. I 
see no tiny x in the modern theme.


YMMV with SM portable.
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Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed

2011-07-11 Thread Jay Garcia
On 11.07.2011 07:34, JohnQPublic wrote:

 --- Original Message ---

 Sorry to say it, but the tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser just aren't up to
 snuff...
 
 The active tab needs to be highlighted with a different color, so it's easy
 to see. Firefox accomplishes this by making the active tab lighter, which
 works fine. If there's any difference in SeaMonkey, I can't see it with my
 CRT monitor. I realize that LCD monitors render grayscales better, but
 SeaMonkey should take that into consideration. I've looked through the
 settings and can't find any way to fix this, so presume it's built-in(?).
 
 Apparently the only way to close a tab in SeaMonkey with the mouse is to
 click the little x at the rightside of the tab bar, but it's too small to
 hit easily  quickly with the mouse pointer. Also that's much less
 satisfactory than having an x on each tab. Without an x on each tab, it's
 necessary to first select a tab then click the x. Very cumbersome. Or am I
 overlooking something obvious as a newbie? Yes, I'm aware of the keyboard
 shortcuts affecting tabs, but I normally use a mouse for these operations.

Add to your userChrome.css:

.tabbrowser-tab[selected=true]  hbox,
.tabbrowser-tab[selected=true]  .tab-close-button {
background-color: #88 !important;
color: #fff !important;
}
.tabbrowser-tab[selected=true]:hover  hbox,
.tabbrowser-tab[selected=true]:hover  .tab-close-button {
background-color: #BB !important;
color: #fff !important;
}

This will hilite the active tab to blue. Dunno about making the X any
larger.

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Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed

2011-07-11 Thread Daniel

JohnQPublic wrote:

Sorry to say it, but the tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser just aren't up to
snuff...

The active tab needs to be highlighted with a different color, so it's easy
to see. Firefox accomplishes this by making the active tab lighter, which
works fine. If there's any difference in SeaMonkey, I can't see it with my
CRT monitor. I realize that LCD monitors render grayscales better, but
SeaMonkey should take that into consideration. I've looked through the
settings and can't find any way to fix this, so presume it's built-in(?).



On my screen, the currently selected tab looks significantly lighter 
than the non-selected tabs.


Additionally, if you hover your mouse over the tabs, small images are 
displayed of the non-selected tab screens. Nothing is displayed when 
hovering over the currently selected tab, because it is currently selected.


HTH

Daniel


Apparently the only way to close a tab in SeaMonkey with the mouse is to
click the little x at the rightside of the tab bar, but it's too small to
hit easily  quickly with the mouse pointer. Also that's much less
satisfactory than having an x on each tab. Without an x on each tab, it's
necessary to first select a tab then click the x. Very cumbersome. Or am I
overlooking something obvious as a newbie? Yes, I'm aware of the keyboard
shortcuts affecting tabs, but I normally use a mouse for these operations.



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Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed

2011-07-11 Thread Jay Garcia
On 11.07.2011 08:19, Daniel wrote:

 --- Original Message ---

 JohnQPublic wrote:
 Sorry to say it, but the tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser just aren't up to
 snuff...

 The active tab needs to be highlighted with a different color, so it's
 easy
 to see. Firefox accomplishes this by making the active tab lighter, which
 works fine. If there's any difference in SeaMonkey, I can't see it
 with my
 CRT monitor. I realize that LCD monitors render grayscales better, but
 SeaMonkey should take that into consideration. I've looked through the
 settings and can't find any way to fix this, so presume it's built-in(?).

 
 On my screen, the currently selected tab looks significantly lighter
 than the non-selected tabs.
 
 Additionally, if you hover your mouse over the tabs, small images are
 displayed of the non-selected tab screens. Nothing is displayed when
 hovering over the currently selected tab, because it is currently selected.
 
 HTH
 
 Daniel
 
 Apparently the only way to close a tab in SeaMonkey with the mouse is to
 click the little x at the rightside of the tab bar, but it's too small to
 hit easily  quickly with the mouse pointer. Also that's much less
 satisfactory than having an x on each tab. Without an x on each tab, it's
 necessary to first select a tab then click the x. Very cumbersome. Or
 am I
 overlooking something obvious as a newbie? Yes, I'm aware of the keyboard
 shortcuts affecting tabs, but I normally use a mouse for these
 operations.
 
 

Please bottom post, thanks.

As I get older, I have somewhat the same problems - being able to
differentiate active tabs as well as other UI functionality. Making the
active tab a different color is far better than just making it lighter,
IMHO of course. Same goes for other buttons and such where opposing
colors can make all the difference.

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Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed

2011-07-11 Thread Bill Spikowski

JohnQPublic wrote:

Sorry to say it, but the tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser just aren't up to
snuff...

The active tab needs to be highlighted with a different color, so it's easy
to see. Firefox accomplishes this by making the active tab lighter, which
works fine. If there's any difference in SeaMonkey, I can't see it with my
CRT monitor. I realize that LCD monitors render grayscales better, but
SeaMonkey should take that into consideration. I've looked through the
settings and can't find any way to fix this, so presume it's built-in(?).

Apparently the only way to close a tab in SeaMonkey with the mouse is to
click the little x at the rightside of the tab bar, but it's too small to
hit easily  quickly with the mouse pointer. Also that's much less
satisfactory than having an x on each tab. Without an x on each tab, it's
necessary to first select a tab then click the x. Very cumbersome. Or am I
overlooking something obvious as a newbie? Yes, I'm aware of the keyboard
shortcuts affecting tabs, but I normally use a mouse for these operations.



I also find that's it's become nearly impossible to identify the active tab in 
SM 2.1. This is a pretty big problem to me -- I hope a solution will be forthcoming!


OTOH, please keep the single x for closing tabs! It's one of the best features 
of SM, relative to IE and a few other browsers I occasionally use. If a user is 
having trouble locating a single x, imagine their trouble locating multiple x's 
on each tab!


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Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed

2011-07-11 Thread Gerald Ross

Jay Garcia wrote:

On 11.07.2011 07:34, JohnQPublic wrote:

  --- Original Message ---


 Sorry to say it, but the tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser just aren't up to
 snuff...

 The active tab needs to be highlighted with a different color, so it's easy
 to see. Firefox accomplishes this by making the active tab lighter, which
 works fine. If there's any difference in SeaMonkey, I can't see it with my
 CRT monitor. I realize that LCD monitors render grayscales better, but
 SeaMonkey should take that into consideration. I've looked through the
 settings and can't find any way to fix this, so presume it's built-in(?).

 Apparently the only way to close a tab in SeaMonkey with the mouse is to
 click the little x at the rightside of the tab bar, but it's too small to
 hit easily  quickly with the mouse pointer. Also that's much less
 satisfactory than having an x on each tab. Without an x on each tab, it's
 necessary to first select a tab then click the x. Very cumbersome. Or am I
 overlooking something obvious as a newbie? Yes, I'm aware of the keyboard
 shortcuts affecting tabs, but I normally use a mouse for these operations.


Add to your userChrome.css:

.tabbrowser-tab[selected=true]  hbox,
.tabbrowser-tab[selected=true]  .tab-close-button {
background-color: #88 !important;
color: #fff !important;
}
.tabbrowser-tab[selected=true]:hover  hbox,
.tabbrowser-tab[selected=true]:hover  .tab-close-button {
background-color: #BB !important;
color: #fff !important;
}

This will hilite the active tab to blue. Dunno about making the X any
larger.



I tried this on 2.0.14 and it works a treat!
 It's nice to have experts around.  Thanks Jay!
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Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed

2011-07-11 Thread David E. Ross
On 7/11/11 6:19 AM, Daniel wrote:
 JohnQPublic wrote:
 Sorry to say it, but the tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser just aren't up to
 snuff...

 The active tab needs to be highlighted with a different color, so it's easy
 to see. Firefox accomplishes this by making the active tab lighter, which
 works fine. If there's any difference in SeaMonkey, I can't see it with my
 CRT monitor. I realize that LCD monitors render grayscales better, but
 SeaMonkey should take that into consideration. I've looked through the
 settings and can't find any way to fix this, so presume it's built-in(?).

 
 On my screen, the currently selected tab looks significantly lighter 
 than the non-selected tabs.
 
 Additionally, if you hover your mouse over the tabs, small images are 
 displayed of the non-selected tab screens. Nothing is displayed when 
 hovering over the currently selected tab, because it is currently selected.
 
 HTH
 
 Daniel
 
 Apparently the only way to close a tab in SeaMonkey with the mouse is to
 click the little x at the rightside of the tab bar, but it's too small to
 hit easily  quickly with the mouse pointer. Also that's much less
 satisfactory than having an x on each tab. Without an x on each tab, it's
 necessary to first select a tab then click the x. Very cumbersome. Or am I
 overlooking something obvious as a newbie? Yes, I'm aware of the keyboard
 shortcuts affecting tabs, but I normally use a mouse for these operations.
 
 

I found the display of tooltips for the content of tabs to be @*!!##%%
annoying.  I set browser.tabs.tooltippreview.enable to false to
disable that feature.

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Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed

2011-07-11 Thread David E. Ross
On 7/11/11 5:34 AM, JohnQPublic wrote:
 Sorry to say it, but the tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser just aren't up to
 snuff...
 
 The active tab needs to be highlighted with a different color, so it's easy
 to see. Firefox accomplishes this by making the active tab lighter, which
 works fine. If there's any difference in SeaMonkey, I can't see it with my
 CRT monitor. I realize that LCD monitors render grayscales better, but
 SeaMonkey should take that into consideration. I've looked through the
 settings and can't find any way to fix this, so presume it's built-in(?).
 
 Apparently the only way to close a tab in SeaMonkey with the mouse is to
 click the little x at the rightside of the tab bar, but it's too small to
 hit easily  quickly with the mouse pointer. Also that's much less
 satisfactory than having an x on each tab. Without an x on each tab, it's
 necessary to first select a tab then click the x. Very cumbersome. Or am I
 overlooking something obvious as a newbie? Yes, I'm aware of the keyboard
 shortcuts affecting tabs, but I normally use a mouse for these operations.

This is bug #657275 at
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=657275.

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Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed

2011-07-11 Thread Jay Garcia
On 11.07.2011 10:09, Gerald Ross wrote:

 --- Original Message ---

 Jay Garcia wrote:
 On 11.07.2011 07:34, JohnQPublic wrote:

   --- Original Message ---

  Sorry to say it, but the tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser just aren't
 up to
  snuff...

  The active tab needs to be highlighted with a different color, so
 it's easy
  to see. Firefox accomplishes this by making the active tab lighter,
 which
  works fine. If there's any difference in SeaMonkey, I can't see it
 with my
  CRT monitor. I realize that LCD monitors render grayscales better, but
  SeaMonkey should take that into consideration. I've looked through the
  settings and can't find any way to fix this, so presume it's
 built-in(?).

  Apparently the only way to close a tab in SeaMonkey with the mouse
 is to
  click the little x at the rightside of the tab bar, but it's too
 small to
  hit easily  quickly with the mouse pointer. Also that's much less
  satisfactory than having an x on each tab. Without an x on each tab,
 it's
  necessary to first select a tab then click the x. Very cumbersome.
 Or am I
  overlooking something obvious as a newbie? Yes, I'm aware of the
 keyboard
  shortcuts affecting tabs, but I normally use a mouse for these
 operations.

 Add to your userChrome.css:

 .tabbrowser-tab[selected=true]  hbox,
 .tabbrowser-tab[selected=true]  .tab-close-button {
 background-color: #88 !important;
 color: #fff !important;
 }
 .tabbrowser-tab[selected=true]:hover  hbox,
 .tabbrowser-tab[selected=true]:hover  .tab-close-button {
 background-color: #BB !important;
 color: #fff !important;
 }

 This will hilite the active tab to blue. Dunno about making the X any
 larger.

 
 I tried this on 2.0.14 and it works a treat!
  It's nice to have experts around.  Thanks Jay!

Well not an expert but I DID know where to find it! 8-)



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www.ufaq.org
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Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed

2011-07-11 Thread Juergen Herz
On 2011-07-11 14:34, JohnQPublic wrote:
 Apparently the only way to close a tab in SeaMonkey with the mouse is to
 click the little x at the rightside of the tab bar

I'm surprised no one mentioned middle clicking a tab as method for
closing it. I never used another method.
Granted, not every mouse has a 3rd mouse button but nearly every.

Juergen
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Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed

2011-07-11 Thread Evan Davidson

JohnQPublic wrote:

Sorry to say it, but the tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser just aren't up to
snuff...

The active tab needs to be highlighted with a different color, so it's easy
to see. Firefox accomplishes this by making the active tab lighter, which
works fine. If there's any difference in SeaMonkey, I can't see it with my
CRT monitor. I realize that LCD monitors render grayscales better, but
SeaMonkey should take that into consideration. I've looked through the
settings and can't find any way to fix this, so presume it's built-in(?).

Apparently the only way to close a tab in SeaMonkey with the mouse is to
click the little x at the rightside of the tab bar, but it's too small to
hit easily  quickly with the mouse pointer. Also that's much less
satisfactory than having an x on each tab. Without an x on each tab, it's
necessary to first select a tab then click the x. Very cumbersome. Or am I
overlooking something obvious as a newbie? Yes, I'm aware of the keyboard
shortcuts affecting tabs, but I normally use a mouse for these operations.


SeaTab X ( http://tom-cat.com/mozilla/seamonkey/extensions-seatabx.html 
) will place a closer X on the tab. It says it works with SM2.2. (If 
it doesn't, use the Compatibilty Reporter add-on ( 
https://addons.mozilla.org/seamonkey/addon/add-on-compatibility-reporter/ 
). (I have version bumped the xpi installer to work with 2.* and it 
works fine.)

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Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed

2011-07-11 Thread Joe32065


SeaTab X and Jay Garcia's tip have saved the day!!
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Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed

2011-07-11 Thread Felix Miata
On 2011/07/11 07:34 (GMT-0500) JohnQPublic composed:

 Sorry to say it, but the tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser just aren't up to
 snuff...

Your opinion.

 The active tab needs to be highlighted with a different color,

That's the way it is here on my CRT, same as it has been for many years:
http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Moz/tabsclosebuttonSMm1400.jpg

 Apparently the only way to close a tab in SeaMonkey with the mouse is to
 click the little x at the rightside of the tab bar, but it's too small to
 hit easily  quickly with the mouse pointer. Also that's much less
 satisfactory than having an x on each tab. Without an x on each tab, it's
 necessary to first select a tab then click the x. Very cumbersome. Or am I
 overlooking something obvious as a newbie?

You're overlooking the context menu, and overlooking what happens to users who
keep open many tabs in browsers with an X button on every tab. Imagine yourself
trying to hit the correct X if an X was on every tab in the above picture.

First thing I do in every new FF profile is get the Xs off the tabs.
-- 
The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
words are persuasive. Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)

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Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed

2011-07-11 Thread Rufus

Gerald Ross wrote:

Jay Garcia wrote:

On 11.07.2011 07:34, JohnQPublic wrote:

--- Original Message ---


Sorry to say it, but the tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser just aren't up to
snuff...

The active tab needs to be highlighted with a different color, so
it's easy
to see. Firefox accomplishes this by making the active tab lighter,
which
works fine. If there's any difference in SeaMonkey, I can't see it
with my
CRT monitor. I realize that LCD monitors render grayscales better, but
SeaMonkey should take that into consideration. I've looked through the
settings and can't find any way to fix this, so presume it's
built-in(?).

Apparently the only way to close a tab in SeaMonkey with the mouse is to
click the little x at the rightside of the tab bar, but it's too
small to
hit easily quickly with the mouse pointer. Also that's much less
satisfactory than having an x on each tab. Without an x on each tab,
it's
necessary to first select a tab then click the x. Very cumbersome. Or
am I
overlooking something obvious as a newbie? Yes, I'm aware of the
keyboard
shortcuts affecting tabs, but I normally use a mouse for these
operations.


Add to your userChrome.css:

.tabbrowser-tab[selected=true] hbox,
.tabbrowser-tab[selected=true] .tab-close-button {
background-color: #88 !important;
color: #fff !important;
}
.tabbrowser-tab[selected=true]:hover hbox,
.tabbrowser-tab[selected=true]:hover .tab-close-button {
background-color: #BB !important;
color: #fff !important;
}

This will hilite the active tab to blue. Dunno about making the X any
larger.



I tried this on 2.0.14 and it works a treat!
It's nice to have experts around. Thanks Jay!


I found that with 2.0.14 I simply couldn't stand the new Default theme - 
lasted about 2 days with it; changed it to SM Modern and have been as 
happy (as I can be) ever since...


...tiny buttons in the download dialog withstanding.

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Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed

2011-07-11 Thread MCBastos
Interviewed by CNN on 11/07/2011 23:16, Felix Miata told the world:

 You're overlooking the context menu, and overlooking what happens to users who
 keep open many tabs in browsers with an X button on every tab. Imagine 
 yourself
 trying to hit the correct X if an X was on every tab in the above picture.
 
 First thing I do in every new FF profile is get the Xs off the tabs.

One feature of the Multizilla mega-extension I liked was the ability to
have the X and the site icon in the same space: it normally looked
like the site icon, but if you hovered the mouse over it it turned into
the X. It saved a lot of space on the tab bar.

Yes, some users might prefer to remove the icon entirely, leaving only
text. That's their choice. But I think that the x-when-hover is a nice
middle ground.

(Chrome went the other way, keeping the X but removing the site icon...
it's one of the things I don't like on it.)
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Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed

2011-07-11 Thread JohnQPublic
Juergen Herz juer...@jherz.redirectme.net wrote in message
news:elidnrwdy-ht1obtnz2dnuvz_rydn...@mozilla.org...
 On 2011-07-11 14:34, JohnQPublic wrote:
 Apparently the only way to close a tab in SeaMonkey with the mouse is to
 click the little x at the rightside of the tab bar

 I'm surprised no one mentioned middle clicking a tab as method for
 closing it. I never used another method.
 Granted, not every mouse has a 3rd mouse button but nearly every.

Thanks for the tip! It works fine with Firefox too.

That's definitely the easiest way provided the spring on the 3rd mouse
button (a middle rollerwheel on my mice) isn't too strong. I've tried 2 mice
and one was OK, the other requires an extra strong fingerpress to click the
middle button. (It tends to roll rather than be clicked.) That will be one
of my criteria when I go mouse shopping next time.
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(FF3.6.18 default browser, customized FF5.0_portable with FF3+ theme,
Chrome12_portable, Opera11_portable, Iron12_portable, Maxthon3_portable,
SeaMonkey2.2_portable, IE6, Outlook Express default mail/news, XP Home SP3)





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