how to make jaws low-cost
I emailed erik damery CEO of vfo with the following suggestions. in order to make a low cost or free jaws, do the following. 1. rip out all nuance stuff. and for the free jaws, support and all nuance stuff has to be paid or purchased separately if you want it. 2. replace nuance eloquence with speech player and espeak. replace vocalizer with the free speechHub and microsoft speech platform voices. 3. rip out omniPage for OCR and replace it with the free tesseract OCR or a free google OCR option. 4. free or low-cost jaws should be download only. or pay $20 for a dvd. 5. no jaws network install unless you buy the $20 dvd. 6. free jaws is authorized with a generic serial number. 7. all free jaws or low cost jaws serial numbers are the same maybe serial=freejaws or something like that. I wrote to vfo at least two times about this. I hope they are listening, because using illegal keys made by middle eastern folks is sort of annoying and I would much rather have a free or very very low cost jaws for home use minus all the nuance stuff, but have a basic jaws tandom in there so us freeJaws users can remote and help each other out. Personally I cannot wait for the day to say goodbye to the foreign-made key code. because i will never have the income to go to conventions to buy jaws. besides using espeak would let jaws read the irish gaelic and some other rare languages that eloquence and even nuance vocalizer does not support. perhaps with any luck the big announcement coming in a few months, will finally allow me to say goodbye to the foreign-made-key-codes forever. i hope. i hope erik damery CEO of vfo is listening. give us free or very very low-cost jaws for those who cannot afford to buy full jaws with its nuance bells and whistles! ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: braille displays
I do not know. I can only tel you that it is available for preorder from www.blitab.com On 4/9/2017 5:44 PM, Dwayne McNutt wrote: When is this Braille device supposed to be available for sale? -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dwaynemcnutt=outlook@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Joshua Kennedy via Talk Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2017 1:15 PM To: cov...@ccs.covici.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: braille displays no this is very different than the bristol braille. this has 25 lines of 40 cells. and it runs android. On 4/9/2017 6:29 AM, John Covici wrote: Is this the same as the bristol braille which only has40 x 9 lines? I can't imagine using a tablet like that, a Braille display, maybe, but not a tablet. On Sat, 08 Apr 2017 19:53:25 -0400, Joshua Kennedy via Talk wrote: are you gunna get the blitab 25 line full page braille display when it is out for $500? On 4/8/2017 5:22 PM, Pamela Dominguez wrote: Because it is much better to have a full 40 cell line than a short little 20 cell line. That would be my guess, anyway. I don't like that my braille sense u2 only has 32 cells. Pam. -Original Message- From: Joshua Kennedy via Talk Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2017 12:28 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: braille displays regarding the new 40 cell display? whatever it may be? Why would you buy a 40 cell display for thousands of dollars with old outdated piezoelectric crystal braille cell technology, when both the orbit reader20 is coming out real soon? And if you want more than 20 cells? Why not wait for the blitab braille tablet? The blitab will have a full page 25 lines of braille and I'm guessing 32 or 40 cells across. just look at the www.blitab.com website. or go to youtube and watch videos on the blitab braille tablet. I also know that the blitab with its full page of braille will sell for around or below $500. I can't wait to get a full page 25 line braille tablet for near $500! and if you go to the website you can sign up and pre-order the blitab full page braille tablet. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/geodom%40optonline.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/covici%40ccs.covici.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/dwaynemcnutt%40outlook.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: braille displays
no this is very different than the bristol braille. this has 25 lines of 40 cells. and it runs android. On 4/9/2017 6:29 AM, John Covici wrote: Is this the same as the bristol braille which only has40 x 9 lines? I can't imagine using a tablet like that, a Braille display, maybe, but not a tablet. On Sat, 08 Apr 2017 19:53:25 -0400, Joshua Kennedy via Talk wrote: are you gunna get the blitab 25 line full page braille display when it is out for $500? On 4/8/2017 5:22 PM, Pamela Dominguez wrote: Because it is much better to have a full 40 cell line than a short little 20 cell line. That would be my guess, anyway. I don't like that my braille sense u2 only has 32 cells. Pam. -Original Message- From: Joshua Kennedy via Talk Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2017 12:28 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: braille displays regarding the new 40 cell display? whatever it may be? Why would you buy a 40 cell display for thousands of dollars with old outdated piezoelectric crystal braille cell technology, when both the orbit reader20 is coming out real soon? And if you want more than 20 cells? Why not wait for the blitab braille tablet? The blitab will have a full page 25 lines of braille and I'm guessing 32 or 40 cells across. just look at the www.blitab.com website. or go to youtube and watch videos on the blitab braille tablet. I also know that the blitab with its full page of braille will sell for around or below $500. I can't wait to get a full page 25 line braille tablet for near $500! and if you go to the website you can sign up and pre-order the blitab full page braille tablet. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/geodom%40optonline.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/covici%40ccs.covici.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: all list members with jaws questions
correct. it is not a vfo offer. it is an offer for those who want to or need to use jaws but who do not have the income needed to buy it. On 4/9/2017 2:46 AM, Vaughan Dodd wrote: This is not a Freedom Scientific or VFO offer. Vaughan.. On 4/9/2017 12:27 PM, Joshua Kennedy via Talk wrote: Hi to all list members with jaws questions. this includes dave and brenda and mike. and all jaws switcher overs. I have a special jaws offer for all you guys wanting to switch over to jaws. if you want to know more, please email me privately off list at the email address below: joshknnd1...@gmail.com I will not discuss the offer publically on the list if interested email me privately. thanks Josh Kennedy ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/vdodd001%40vodafone.co.nz. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
all list members with jaws questions
Hi to all list members with jaws questions. this includes dave and brenda and mike. and all jaws switcher overs. I have a special jaws offer for all you guys wanting to switch over to jaws. if you want to know more, please email me privately off list at the email address below: joshknnd1...@gmail.com I will not discuss the offer publically on the list if interested email me privately. thanks Josh Kennedy ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: braille displays and we
when i tried it, it did not see the orbit20 as a braille display. and it did not see it as a refreshabraille when I put it into rb18 emulation mode either. On 4/8/2017 6:28 PM, Rod Hutton wrote: Hi Josh, I'm curious which braille display option you chose when trying to get it to work with Window-Eyes. As memory serves, the best way to install a braille display with Window-Eyes is to run the Setup wizard. When you get to the braille display section, I believe it will attempt to recognize the display automatically. See what happens If you try this. Hth, Rod -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy via Talk Sent: Saturday, April 8, 2017 2:26 PM To: steve.jacob...@visi.com; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Subject: RE: braille displays and we I cannot use orbit20 with window eyes. I can use orbit20 with NVDA, and I can use orbit20 with jaws. orbit20 works excellent with NVDA and it also works excellent with jaws also! the screen reader tells orbit20 to use dots 7 and 8 as a cursor under the character you are currently editing. Josh Sent with AquaMail for Android http://www.aqua-mail.com On April 8, 2017 14:17:22 "Steve Jacobson" <steve.jacob...@visi.com> wrote: Joshua, I have not seen the latest prototypes of the Orbit Reader, but I assume there are still no cursor routing keys, is that correct? You said you can't use it with Window-Eyes, but have you used it with other screen readers? If so, what does it do when you have a cursor that moves when you are editing a word? In other words, how well does it show that a cursor moved but no characters changed? Best regards, Steve Jacobson -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+steve.jacobson=visi@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Joshua Kennedy via Talk Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2017 11:33 AM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Subject: braille displays and we also I am testing still the orbit reader20 prototype and it does not work with window eyes even in rb18 emulation mode or refreshabraille18 emulation mode. the braille on the orbit20 is better than any other braille display I have ever seen in my whole life. It feels like the braille you see on elevator doors, hotel room doors, or ATM machine signage quality firm durable braille. and it is liquid and dust resistant also. I accidentally dropped the orbit reader 20 prototype once and nothing happened, it fell upside down and i was able to pick it up and it just keeps working, not a scratch on it at all and no pins fell out at all. and its basic internal text or braille editor does not care what braille code you write in. you can write any kind of braille you wish whether its contracted braille ueb braille music or nemeth math braille. just like a perkins brailler or slate and stylus, you can write any braille code you wish, even make up your own or write grade3 shorthand if you want. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/steve.jacobson %40visi.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: braille displays
because when I want to use the orbit I just switch to NVDA or jaws. I mostly use those two anyway. also the orbit is nice and affordable. But the other displays cost thousands of dollars which is way way way out of my price range. On 4/8/2017 6:12 PM, Vaughan Dodd wrote: Because: the Orbit does not meet everyone's requirements, and because the tablet device isn't here yet. You yourself have just observed that the Orbit does not work with Window-Eyes. Simply because Window-Eyes is no longer being developed. So: why buy a display which won't work with the screen reader one is using? On 4/9/2017 4:28 AM, Joshua Kennedy via Talk wrote: regarding the new 40 cell display? whatever it may be? Why would you buy a 40 cell display for thousands of dollars with old outdated piezoelectric crystal braille cell technology, when both the orbit reader20 is coming out real soon? And if you want more than 20 cells? Why not wait for the blitab braille tablet? The blitab will have a full page 25 lines of braille and I'm guessing 32 or 40 cells across. just look at the www.blitab.com website. or go to youtube and watch videos on the blitab braille tablet. I also know that the blitab with its full page of braille will sell for around or below $500. I can't wait to get a full page 25 line braille tablet for near $500! and if you go to the website you can sign up and pre-order the blitab full page braille tablet. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/vdodd001%40vodafone.co.nz. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: braille displays and we
orbit20 prototype works great with Jaws and NVDA though. On 4/8/2017 5:24 PM, Pamela Dominguez wrote: Oh, that sucks, then. Pam. -Original Message- From: Joshua Kennedy via Talk Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2017 12:33 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: braille displays and we also I am testing still the orbit reader20 prototype and it does not work with window eyes even in rb18 emulation mode or refreshabraille18 emulation mode. the braille on the orbit20 is better than any other braille display I have ever seen in my whole life. It feels like the braille you see on elevator doors, hotel room doors, or ATM machine signage quality firm durable braille. and it is liquid and dust resistant also. I accidentally dropped the orbit reader 20 prototype once and nothing happened, it fell upside down and i was able to pick it up and it just keeps working, not a scratch on it at all and no pins fell out at all. and its basic internal text or braille editor does not care what braille code you write in. you can write any kind of braille you wish whether its contracted braille ueb braille music or nemeth math braille. just like a perkins brailler or slate and stylus, you can write any braille code you wish, even make up your own or write grade3 shorthand if you want. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/geodom%40optonline.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: braille displays
are you gunna get the blitab 25 line full page braille display when it is out for $500? On 4/8/2017 5:22 PM, Pamela Dominguez wrote: Because it is much better to have a full 40 cell line than a short little 20 cell line. That would be my guess, anyway. I don't like that my braille sense u2 only has 32 cells. Pam. -Original Message- From: Joshua Kennedy via Talk Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2017 12:28 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: braille displays regarding the new 40 cell display? whatever it may be? Why would you buy a 40 cell display for thousands of dollars with old outdated piezoelectric crystal braille cell technology, when both the orbit reader20 is coming out real soon? And if you want more than 20 cells? Why not wait for the blitab braille tablet? The blitab will have a full page 25 lines of braille and I'm guessing 32 or 40 cells across. just look at the www.blitab.com website. or go to youtube and watch videos on the blitab braille tablet. I also know that the blitab with its full page of braille will sell for around or below $500. I can't wait to get a full page 25 line braille tablet for near $500! and if you go to the website you can sign up and pre-order the blitab full page braille tablet. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/geodom%40optonline.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
braille displays and we
also I am testing still the orbit reader20 prototype and it does not work with window eyes even in rb18 emulation mode or refreshabraille18 emulation mode. the braille on the orbit20 is better than any other braille display I have ever seen in my whole life. It feels like the braille you see on elevator doors, hotel room doors, or ATM machine signage quality firm durable braille. and it is liquid and dust resistant also. I accidentally dropped the orbit reader 20 prototype once and nothing happened, it fell upside down and i was able to pick it up and it just keeps working, not a scratch on it at all and no pins fell out at all. and its basic internal text or braille editor does not care what braille code you write in. you can write any kind of braille you wish whether its contracted braille ueb braille music or nemeth math braille. just like a perkins brailler or slate and stylus, you can write any braille code you wish, even make up your own or write grade3 shorthand if you want. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
braille displays
regarding the new 40 cell display? whatever it may be? Why would you buy a 40 cell display for thousands of dollars with old outdated piezoelectric crystal braille cell technology, when both the orbit reader20 is coming out real soon? And if you want more than 20 cells? Why not wait for the blitab braille tablet? The blitab will have a full page 25 lines of braille and I'm guessing 32 or 40 cells across. just look at the www.blitab.com website. or go to youtube and watch videos on the blitab braille tablet. I also know that the blitab with its full page of braille will sell for around or below $500. I can't wait to get a full page 25 line braille tablet for near $500! and if you go to the website you can sign up and pre-order the blitab full page braille tablet. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: making the switch
no they updated the android version a few weeks ago. On 4/7/2017 9:11 AM, Russ Kiehne wrote: The reason I ask, it's my understanding there hasn't been a update to the android version in a very long time? -Original Message- From: Joshua Kennedy Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2017 7:39 AM To: Russ Kiehne ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: Re: making the switch I have not tested all those file types, but I think it probably would. On 4/6/2017 9:18 AM, Russ Kiehne wrote: Does it do all of the following? With voice dream reader, I can read books from bookshare, unprotected epub. Supported File Formats PDF, EPUB (DRM free), DAISY 3.0 text-based eBooks, DAISY 2.02 audiobooks, Zipped MP3 files, such as LibriVox, Plain Text, Rich Text Format (RTF), Microsoft Word, Microsoft PowerPoint, Apple Pages, Apple Keynote, HTML, What's nice about voice dream reader, you can download books from both bookshare and Project Gutenberg directly to your ios device. Voice dream reader is supplied with Acapela. You have the optionof using Neospeech or Ivona. I bought the optional neospeech voice to make it sound just like a booksense when reading any text based file. -Original Message- From: Josh Kennedy Sent: Wednesday, April 5, 2017 7:22 AM To: Russ Kiehne ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: Re: making the switch voice dream reader for the android works very very good. I like it a lot. Sent with AquaMail for Android http://www.aqua-mail.com On April 5, 2017 10:20:36 "Russ Kiehne" <russ94...@gmail.com> wrote: How well does the android version of voice dream reader work with it? I hear that the ios version is much better! -Original Message----- From: Joshua Kennedy via Talk Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2017 3:39 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: making the switch I am very happy making the switch for the most part to my $80 RCA galileo pro android marshmallow tablet laptop hybrid. I love the fact I can go almost anywhere on the web without fear of windows viruses taking over the system. And I like playing with different apps from the app store, using different voices such as acapela voices, playing games such as crafting kingdom and pirates and traders, and pontes game zone and watching netflix and using other tv apps. My tablet even interacts with my apple tv box using a very nice app called tubio. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/russ94577%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: NVDA addons
www.grossgang.com www.nvaccess.org On 4/6/2017 10:57 PM, Andy Baracco wrote: URLs please? Andy - Original Message - From: "Joshua Kennedy via Talk" <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> To: "'Window-Eyes Discussion List'" <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 7:23 PM Subject: NVDA addons you get all of the addons from the NVDA community addons website. you can also get some from Jeff's NVDA addons page. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/wq6r%40socal.rr.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
touch devices
if you would use an android device if you decide to switch to one, you will find many file managers that gives you access to the file system and folder or directory structure like you find in windows. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
using touch screens
touch screens are quite easy to use. when the screen reader whether its talkback for android or voiceover for iPhone is turned on, when you put your finger or the pen on the screen talkback will read what is under your finger. there are different gestures you use to quickly move around apps and screens such as swiping in different directions, single and double taps and so on. for example if I want to scroll on my tablet I put two fingers on the bottom of the screen and slide them up to near the top of the screen. I know I am scrolling up or down by the ascending or descending tone sound that talkback makes. Some apps like my xfinity tv app really rely on the touch screen. but with other apps like web browsers I can mostly use my tablet's physical keyboard on the RCA galileo pro tablet. as for keyboards, I'm so used to where the keys are on the touch screen I can usually put my finger right on the letter I want, lift my finger off the screen and the letter is inserted into the edit box. with practice, touch screens are easy. you may need someone to show you how they work at first maybe spend a few hours with you getting you used to it. I had a friend who was frustrated with touch screens. I spent about an hour or so showing him. Now he really loves his android phones! ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
NVDA addons
you get all of the addons from the NVDA community addons website. you can also get some from Jeff's NVDA addons page. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: making the switch
I have not tested all those file types, but I think it probably would. On 4/6/2017 9:18 AM, Russ Kiehne wrote: Does it do all of the following? With voice dream reader, I can read books from bookshare, unprotected epub. Supported File Formats PDF, EPUB (DRM free), DAISY 3.0 text-based eBooks, DAISY 2.02 audiobooks, Zipped MP3 files, such as LibriVox, Plain Text, Rich Text Format (RTF), Microsoft Word, Microsoft PowerPoint, Apple Pages, Apple Keynote, HTML, What's nice about voice dream reader, you can download books from both bookshare and Project Gutenberg directly to your ios device. Voice dream reader is supplied with Acapela. You have the optionof using Neospeech or Ivona. I bought the optional neospeech voice to make it sound just like a booksense when reading any text based file. -Original Message- From: Josh Kennedy Sent: Wednesday, April 5, 2017 7:22 AM To: Russ Kiehne ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: Re: making the switch voice dream reader for the android works very very good. I like it a lot. Sent with AquaMail for Android http://www.aqua-mail.com On April 5, 2017 10:20:36 "Russ Kiehne" <russ94...@gmail.com> wrote: How well does the android version of voice dream reader work with it? I hear that the ios version is much better! -Original Message----- From: Joshua Kennedy via Talk Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2017 3:39 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: making the switch I am very happy making the switch for the most part to my $80 RCA galileo pro android marshmallow tablet laptop hybrid. I love the fact I can go almost anywhere on the web without fear of windows viruses taking over the system. And I like playing with different apps from the app store, using different voices such as acapela voices, playing games such as crafting kingdom and pirates and traders, and pontes game zone and watching netflix and using other tv apps. My tablet even interacts with my apple tv box using a very nice app called tubio. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/russ94577%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: making the switch
it is an RCA galileo pro you can get at walmart for $80. It runs android 6.0. It runs the talkback screen reader. It has a physical keyboard you can put the tablet on top of and then it becomes a hinged laptop. talkback has a good number of keyboard commands. On 4/4/2017 7:02 PM, Charles Adkins wrote: just curious, what kind of tablet is this? I would be interested in learning more about them. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 4, 2017, at 6:39 PM, Joshua Kennedy via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote: I am very happy making the switch for the most part to my $80 RCA galileo pro android marshmallow tablet laptop hybrid. I love the fact I can go almost anywhere on the web without fear of windows viruses taking over the system. And I like playing with different apps from the app store, using different voices such as acapela voices, playing games such as crafting kingdom and pirates and traders, and pontes game zone and watching netflix and using other tv apps. My tablet even interacts with my apple tv box using a very nice app called tubio. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/cadkins6739%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
making the switch
I am very happy making the switch for the most part to my $80 RCA galileo pro android marshmallow tablet laptop hybrid. I love the fact I can go almost anywhere on the web without fear of windows viruses taking over the system. And I like playing with different apps from the app store, using different voices such as acapela voices, playing games such as crafting kingdom and pirates and traders, and pontes game zone and watching netflix and using other tv apps. My tablet even interacts with my apple tv box using a very nice app called tubio. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
making the switch
hi I use an RCA galileo pro tablet with physical keyboard magnetic keyboard dock as a secondary in case this 10 year old laptop dies. The galileo pro runs android 6.0 marshmallow. I find websites load faster and work better than they do on the computer. And for $80 united states dollars you can't beat that. And if I want I can detach the screen from the keyboard and just use it as a plain old touch screen tablet. But usually I keep it attached to the keyboard in laptop mode because talkback has a lot of handy keyboard shortcuts that I use. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
windows screen readers
hey tony and all, why not try the latest NVDA? also narrator in windows10 is quite good. if you are tired of paying for screen readers then NVDA is a good choice. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
VFO and nfb and washington?
ok I am missing something. what is happening with the nfb in washington? is washington getting tired of the nfb? one good thing the nfb is doing is or was helping to fund development of the low cost orbit braille display. so if you want to fill me in on what the nfb is doing or not doing in washington and why people are getting fed up with them you can email me off list at joshknnd1...@gmail.com I am interested in this interesting nfb news that i don't know about. thanks Josh ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
orbit20 display and future of window eyes
and so this is why the vfo group has to just fold window eyes into jaws or just give us a free jaws for office option. because for some people NVDA does not cut it, and we need something more powerful, yet that is low cost or free. a jaws for office would work fine especially if you need to do stuff in microsoft office. not to mention jaws works good with the orbit reader20 prototype set to refreshabraille18 emulation. window eyes does not work with orbit20 at all. come on vfo group let us use jaws for free if microsoft office is installed on our machines! ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: hp stream with 4gb ram
yes its too bad windows10 doesn't let you use an sd card as the default write disk. if it did, then storeage would not be an issue at all. I guess the hp f222wm touch screen laptop with quad core processor would be a better option for me then. On 3/20/2017 11:05 AM, Matthew Dyer wrote: Josh, I have an HP Stream and its not worth it as most of the blote ware takes up most of the drive. I have one. It was a pin to get one from win 8.1 to win 10. I would try to get something with more storage. If you are doing things like email, web browsing or word prossing you should be fine, but you will need more drive space for storage. HTH. Matthew On 03/19/2017 06:14 PM, Joshua Kennedy via Talk wrote: hey I was thinking of next month just getting an hp stream the newest one with 4gb ram and 32gb emmc storeage and adding a micro sd for more storeage then doing some stuff in disk management to make a folder on my c: drive point to the micro sd card to store apps and such onto the sd card rather than the internal storeage. and i wrote on the microsoft feedback hub a suggestion to let us set an sd card as default write disk so that c:\users\username\ c:\program files\ c:\program files(x86)\ and c:\program data\ and all their subfolders will be stored on an sd card either during first windows install or after install. so i hope an update comes out with such capability soon. do you think the latest hp stream11 with 4gb ram will be fast enough for some simple audio games and word processing web browsing and video watching? maybe the occasional audio editing with gold wave? here is the link to this laptop. https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01JLCKP48/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8=1489961554=8-3=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65=hp+stream=1=51doEdWFgRL=plSrch Josh Kennedy ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/ilovecountrymusic483%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: hp stream with 4gb ram
or do you think i should just go with the hp f222wm touch screen laptop for $285. it has a 500gb spinning hard drive, quad core pentium n processor and 4gigs ram. if windows10 would let me move and save everything to an sd card maybe the $200 laptop with 32gb emmc would not be a problem then. On 3/19/2017 10:07 PM, Rod Hutton wrote: Hi Josh, It seems a little small in terms of storage. I'd be inclined to by a netbook with a spinning hard drive and in this way you'd be free of the memory crush. Four gigs of RAM is okay, but a 2-core system seems too limited to me. I think you could and should do better than this, even though the price is good. Hth, Rod -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Joshua Kennedy via Talk Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 6:15 PM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: hp stream with 4gb ram hey I was thinking of next month just getting an hp stream the newest one with 4gb ram and 32gb emmc storeage and adding a micro sd for more storeage then doing some stuff in disk management to make a folder on my c: drive point to the micro sd card to store apps and such onto the sd card rather than the internal storeage. and i wrote on the microsoft feedback hub a suggestion to let us set an sd card as default write disk so that c:\users\username\ c:\program files\ c:\program files(x86)\ and c:\program data\ and all their subfolders will be stored on an sd card either during first windows install or after install. so i hope an update comes out with such capability soon. do you think the latest hp stream11 with 4gb ram will be fast enough for some simple audio games and word processing web browsing and video watching? maybe the occasional audio editing with gold wave? here is the link to this laptop. https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01JLCKP48/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8=1489961554=8-3=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65=hp+stream=1=51doEdWFgRL=plSrch Josh Kennedy ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
hp stream with 4gb ram
hey I was thinking of next month just getting an hp stream the newest one with 4gb ram and 32gb emmc storeage and adding a micro sd for more storeage then doing some stuff in disk management to make a folder on my c: drive point to the micro sd card to store apps and such onto the sd card rather than the internal storeage. and i wrote on the microsoft feedback hub a suggestion to let us set an sd card as default write disk so that c:\users\username\ c:\program files\ c:\program files(x86)\ and c:\program data\ and all their subfolders will be stored on an sd card either during first windows install or after install. so i hope an update comes out with such capability soon. do you think the latest hp stream11 with 4gb ram will be fast enough for some simple audio games and word processing web browsing and video watching? maybe the occasional audio editing with gold wave? here is the link to this laptop. https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01JLCKP48/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8=1489961554=8-3=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65=hp+stream=1=51doEdWFgRL=plSrch Josh Kennedy ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: best of w-e with jaws for office?
yes that could work. then we'd also have touch support, braille support and stuff. but still as far as i know, no contracted braille input from braille displays. On 3/16/2017 11:23 AM, Brenda wrote: Josh, that may well happen, but... What about those of us who don't use Windows Office? On my win 10 machine I use Jart or notepad or wordpad. I don't like jowls and don't want to and can't afford to pay for it. Since Microsoft has already worked with GW to connect Window-eyes with office, what about merging Window-eyes with Narrator. This would give win10 users who love window-eyes a screen reader with the best of Narrator and Window eyes. Just a thought. Brenda On 3/16/2017 10:29 AM, Joshua Kennedy via Talk wrote: hi Since we have window-eyes for office I think now VFO also should come out with a jaws for office or just take window-eyes and fold it into a jaws for office. because window-eyes does not have touch support, jaws does. jaws has the best OCR, window-eyes does not. and they could just port the current window-eyes script system over to jaws so you could either use window-eyes apps as always or your current jaws scripts. this would also give jaws native espeak support, support for more tts languages, and much much more. and this would also dramatically reduce the need for some people to feel they have to use cracked copies of jaws because its too expensive. a jaws for office or a window eyes for office folded into the main jaws screen reader would greatly reduce screen reader piracy all around i think. so what do you all think? combine the best of window eyes with jaws and have a free jaws for office option? oh yeah and jaws web support i think is the best. combine or just fold the best of window-eyes into jaws and you'd have a great paid jaws, and a great free jaws for office option. Josh Kennedy ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/bjnite%40windstream.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: best of w-e with jaws for office?
yes i agree. but its worth a shot none the less. On 3/16/2017 10:32 AM, Reeva Webb wrote: Don't hold your breath for this to happen. "the world has been against you from day one, tomorrow's never promised night has just begun, so sing with me we're all fucked" Walls Of Jericho Reeva On Mar 16, 2017 9:29 AM, "Joshua Kennedy via Talk" <talk@lists.window-eyes.com <mailto:talk@lists.window-eyes.com>> wrote: hi Since we have window-eyes for office I think now VFO also should come out with a jaws for office or just take window-eyes and fold it into a jaws for office. because window-eyes does not have touch support, jaws does. jaws has the best OCR, window-eyes does not. and they could just port the current window-eyes script system over to jaws so you could either use window-eyes apps as always or your current jaws scripts. this would also give jaws native espeak support, support for more tts languages, and much much more. and this would also dramatically reduce the need for some people to feel they have to use cracked copies of jaws because its too expensive. a jaws for office or a window eyes for office folded into the main jaws screen reader would greatly reduce screen reader piracy all around i think. so what do you all think? combine the best of window eyes with jaws and have a free jaws for office option? oh yeah and jaws web support i think is the best. combine or just fold the best of window-eyes into jaws and you'd have a great paid jaws, and a great free jaws for office option. Josh Kennedy ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/jadedangelpromises%40gmail.com <http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/jadedangelpromises%40gmail.com>. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com <http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com> List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com <http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com> ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
best of w-e with jaws for office?
hi Since we have window-eyes for office I think now VFO also should come out with a jaws for office or just take window-eyes and fold it into a jaws for office. because window-eyes does not have touch support, jaws does. jaws has the best OCR, window-eyes does not. and they could just port the current window-eyes script system over to jaws so you could either use window-eyes apps as always or your current jaws scripts. this would also give jaws native espeak support, support for more tts languages, and much much more. and this would also dramatically reduce the need for some people to feel they have to use cracked copies of jaws because its too expensive. a jaws for office or a window eyes for office folded into the main jaws screen reader would greatly reduce screen reader piracy all around i think. so what do you all think? combine the best of window eyes with jaws and have a free jaws for office option? oh yeah and jaws web support i think is the best. combine or just fold the best of window-eyes into jaws and you'd have a great paid jaws, and a great free jaws for office option. Josh Kennedy ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: making the change
I buy android stuff because its more affordable for me than iPhones are. On 2/6/2017 12:00 PM, Jim wrote: Hi there Russ and Folks! Yes, I can runn all the same APPs on my Android device that you use on your iPhone. As a matter of fact I have actually tried with a high degree of success all but the BookShare APP on my S7 and yes they have all worked well. Yes, I have owned two iPhones and am on my second Android Phone. Yes, there is some diffrence, but the differences that I see are negligable. I know there are purists from both the iPhohne camp as well as the Android camp that will take issue with 3what I am saying, but I find the real differences are more differences in taste and what you actually like. I stand behind what I am saying though, because in my mind a phone is a phone is a pphone give or take a few bells and whistles unless you are attempting to run GM or IBM or some other multi-national Corporation from your phone<SMILE!>. When my currecnt phone contract is up, I might just take a look at an iPhone again depending on what android and apple have to offer me at that time. Just my opinion for whatever that might be worth these days! Thanks & have A Good Day! A On 06-Feb-17 10:41, Joshua Kennedy via Talk wrote: what really matters is 1. we each can afford the devices that do the things we want them to do. and 2. the devices have the apps we want or programs we want and can do the stuff we enjoy with the devices we choose to buy. On 2/6/2017 10:00 AM, Russ Kiehne wrote: Unfortunately, the android version of voice dream reader isn't as good as it is on ios. That is one of my favorite apps on my ipad mini. Here are a few things I do with my ipad mini 4. Bard mobile: I can read nls books on it. Books can be directly downloaded to your ios device. Audible: I can read books from audible. Books can be directly downloaded to the ios device. Kindle: I can read Kindle books from Amazon. Learning Ally: I can read books from Learning Ally. I can directly download books to my ios device. Boice dream reader: I can read books from bookshare, unprotected epub. Supported File Formats PDF, EPUB (DRM free), DAISY 3.0 text-based eBooks, DAISY 2.02 audiobooks, Zipped MP3 files, such as LibriVox, Plain Text, Rich Text Format (RTF), Microsoft Word, Microsoft PowerPoint, Apple Pages, Apple Keynote, HTML, What's nice about voice dream reader, you can download books from both bookshare and Project Gutenberg directly to your ios device. Voice dream reader is supplied with Acapela Heather. You have the option of using Neospeech. LibriVox audio books pro: I can stream or download books from LibriVox or a large selection of old time radio shows. The thing I like about this app, it will resume playback when streaming content. Downcast: this is my favorite podcast app. Tunen radio pro: TuneIn lets you listen to and record the world’s radio with sports, news, talk and music streaming from every continent. Enjoy 100,000 live radio stations and 2 million podcasts, concerts or shows on your iPhone, iPad and iPod. Record your favorite stream. ooTunes: Radio - Recording and Alarm Clock! INFINITE Tunes, Talk, Sports, and Entertainment Radio. over 36,000 web radio stations. Youtube, This app is also one of my favorite as ell. I can watch old tv shows such as: perry Mason, Highway Patrol, Tales of Wells Fargo and Sea Hunt. -Original Message----- From: Joshua Kennedy via Talk Sent: Sunday, February 5, 2017 2:53 PM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: making the change hi actually an even less expensive alternative would be an android RCA galileo pro tablet laptop hybrid running android 6.0. I got one two days ago. It comes with google docs sheets and slides already installed, supports sd cards and has a full USB port for a mouse or a USB flash drive. talkback can be activated when you first turn it on by placing and holding two fingers on the screen until it starts talking keep holding them until talkback comes or turns on and then you can set it up independently. I like it because I can either dock it to the keyboard and then its a laptop. or I can pull the tablet off the keyboard and use it just as a touch screen tablet. and with the soft braille keyboard app i can braille in grade2 on the touch screen just like a braille note touch. and the whole thing is just $80 at walmart or with the walmart app on your phone. and you can use many different voices such as eloquence, or espeak, vocalizer or acapela voices. the talkback screen reader has many keyboard shortcuts I had to remap a few because the default ones did not work right so i just changed them. its as easy as remapping hotkeys in window eyes or jaws. I have also been providing a lot lot of feedback to the talkback developers to make it even better. android 5.0 actually starting with 4.4 on up to current 7.2 or whatever they are at now is a very very good operat
Re: making the change
what really matters is 1. we each can afford the devices that do the things we want them to do. and 2. the devices have the apps we want or programs we want and can do the stuff we enjoy with the devices we choose to buy. On 2/6/2017 10:00 AM, Russ Kiehne wrote: Unfortunately, the android version of voice dream reader isn't as good as it is on ios. That is one of my favorite apps on my ipad mini. Here are a few things I do with my ipad mini 4. Bard mobile: I can read nls books on it. Books can be directly downloaded to your ios device. Audible: I can read books from audible. Books can be directly downloaded to the ios device. Kindle: I can read Kindle books from Amazon. Learning Ally: I can read books from Learning Ally. I can directly download books to my ios device. Boice dream reader: I can read books from bookshare, unprotected epub. Supported File Formats PDF, EPUB (DRM free), DAISY 3.0 text-based eBooks, DAISY 2.02 audiobooks, Zipped MP3 files, such as LibriVox, Plain Text, Rich Text Format (RTF), Microsoft Word, Microsoft PowerPoint, Apple Pages, Apple Keynote, HTML, What's nice about voice dream reader, you can download books from both bookshare and Project Gutenberg directly to your ios device. Voice dream reader is supplied with Acapela Heather. You have the option of using Neospeech. LibriVox audio books pro: I can stream or download books from LibriVox or a large selection of old time radio shows. The thing I like about this app, it will resume playback when streaming content. Downcast: this is my favorite podcast app. Tunen radio pro: TuneIn lets you listen to and record the world’s radio with sports, news, talk and music streaming from every continent. Enjoy 100,000 live radio stations and 2 million podcasts, concerts or shows on your iPhone, iPad and iPod. Record your favorite stream. ooTunes: Radio - Recording and Alarm Clock! INFINITE Tunes, Talk, Sports, and Entertainment Radio. over 36,000 web radio stations. Youtube, This app is also one of my favorite as ell. I can watch old tv shows such as: perry Mason, Highway Patrol, Tales of Wells Fargo and Sea Hunt. -Original Message- From: Joshua Kennedy via Talk Sent: Sunday, February 5, 2017 2:53 PM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: making the change hi actually an even less expensive alternative would be an android RCA galileo pro tablet laptop hybrid running android 6.0. I got one two days ago. It comes with google docs sheets and slides already installed, supports sd cards and has a full USB port for a mouse or a USB flash drive. talkback can be activated when you first turn it on by placing and holding two fingers on the screen until it starts talking keep holding them until talkback comes or turns on and then you can set it up independently. I like it because I can either dock it to the keyboard and then its a laptop. or I can pull the tablet off the keyboard and use it just as a touch screen tablet. and with the soft braille keyboard app i can braille in grade2 on the touch screen just like a braille note touch. and the whole thing is just $80 at walmart or with the walmart app on your phone. and you can use many different voices such as eloquence, or espeak, vocalizer or acapela voices. the talkback screen reader has many keyboard shortcuts I had to remap a few because the default ones did not work right so i just changed them. its as easy as remapping hotkeys in window eyes or jaws. I have also been providing a lot lot of feedback to the talkback developers to make it even better. android 5.0 actually starting with 4.4 on up to current 7.2 or whatever they are at now is a very very good operating system! I plug my android tablet laptop hybrid RCA galileo pro into speakers and with the xfinity tv app sit back and watch tv on it. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/russ94577%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: making the change
yep. I'm thinking of just getting an inexpensive windows laptop because really i just use it for microsoft office, some email, and audio games. sometimes i download videos and convert them to mp3 files but that's not often and i can just let the computer sit there and convert them while i do something else on my android phone or tablet or tv. On 2/5/2017 8:37 PM, Rod Hutton wrote: Hi Josh, And, initially, I had been trying to make a small point that one need not move right away from Windows to another traditionalcomputer, like the Mac. Rather, the point is that it is the data or the task that is most important, say, email or browsing, and that there are many means of accessing them. Finally, as you and I agree, one need not break the bank in order to find accessible solutions. All the best, Rod *From:*Josh Kennedy [mailto:joshknnd1...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Sunday, February 5, 2017 7:36 PM *To:* Rod Hutton <rod_hut...@hotmail.com> *Subject:* RE: making the change yes you're right. But really iPhones and android devices can do a lot of the same stuff. So therefore we both have pretty powerful solutions. Just goes to show, you don't need a full blown pc to do a lot of the day to day computer stuff that we do with our devices anymore. right? On Feb 5, 2017 7:29 PM, "Rod Hutton" <rod_hut...@hotmail.com <mailto:rod_hut...@hotmail.com>> wrote: Hi Josh, Sounds like a truly elegant and powerful solution you have there. The thing is, I have all the gadgets I need. I was simply trumpeting the gadget I have since I have come to see its power in my and my wife's life, and it's so much a part of our lives now, along with our iPhones, that it makes perfect sense to just wallow in the Apple oasis. (smile) Thanks again, and enjoy, Rod -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton <mailto:talk-bounces%2Brod_hutton>=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com <mailto:hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com>] On Behalf Of Joshua Kennedy via Talk Sent: Sunday, February 5, 2017 5:59 PM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com <mailto:talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Subject: making the change hi rod, have you also considered the RCA galileo pro for $80 from walmart or the walmart online store or app? if you can't or don't want to spend the $200 to $300 for an ipod touch and bluetooth keyboard, why not get a good android 2-in-1 like the RCA galileo pro, install brailleback and soft braille keyboard and off you go. the sound is a bit tinny its speaker isn't stereo but it works fine and when you use with wired or bluetooth speakers or headphones the sound is great. and talkback is a very good screen reader and thanks to all the feedback I've been giving their developers I hope it'll get much much better. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
making the change
hi rod, have you also considered the RCA galileo pro for $80 from walmart or the walmart online store or app? if you can't or don't want to spend the $200 to $300 for an ipod touch and bluetooth keyboard, why not get a good android 2-in-1 like the RCA galileo pro, install brailleback and soft braille keyboard and off you go. the sound is a bit tinny its speaker isn't stereo but it works fine and when you use with wired or bluetooth speakers or headphones the sound is great. and talkback is a very good screen reader and thanks to all the feedback I've been giving their developers I hope it'll get much much better. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
making the change
hi actually an even less expensive alternative would be an android RCA galileo pro tablet laptop hybrid running android 6.0. I got one two days ago. It comes with google docs sheets and slides already installed, supports sd cards and has a full USB port for a mouse or a USB flash drive. talkback can be activated when you first turn it on by placing and holding two fingers on the screen until it starts talking keep holding them until talkback comes or turns on and then you can set it up independently. I like it because I can either dock it to the keyboard and then its a laptop. or I can pull the tablet off the keyboard and use it just as a touch screen tablet. and with the soft braille keyboard app i can braille in grade2 on the touch screen just like a braille note touch. and the whole thing is just $80 at walmart or with the walmart app on your phone. and you can use many different voices such as eloquence, or espeak, vocalizer or acapela voices. the talkback screen reader has many keyboard shortcuts I had to remap a few because the default ones did not work right so i just changed them. its as easy as remapping hotkeys in window eyes or jaws. I have also been providing a lot lot of feedback to the talkback developers to make it even better. android 5.0 actually starting with 4.4 on up to current 7.2 or whatever they are at now is a very very good operating system! I plug my android tablet laptop hybrid RCA galileo pro into speakers and with the xfinity tv app sit back and watch tv on it. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: suggestions for next version window eyes
I don't have the money to do that. otherwise i would. On 11/3/2016 3:22 PM, Vaughan Dodd wrote: And four: if you really like Window-eyes - please purchase a user license. Vaughan. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+vaughan.dodd001=msd.govt...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Joshua Kennedy via Talk Sent: Friday, 4 November 2016 7:49 a.m. To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: suggestions for next version window eyes I really like the free window eyes for office. But I have a few suggestions to make it better. 1. rather than plain old e-speak. why not switch to speech player in e-speak with the edward voice as the default voice? it sounds much more like eloquence and is free. 2. Please add touch support and a touch cursor with keyboard emulation like jaws has. 3. Please add and switch to the tesseract OCR engine for doing OCR. and make it much easier to recognise pdf files. Josh ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/vaughan.dodd001%40msd.govt.nz. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com --- This email and any attachments may contain information that is confidential and subject to legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, dissemination, distribution or duplication of this email and attachments is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the author immediately and erase all copies of the email and attachments. The Ministry of Social Development accepts no responsibility for changes made to this message or attachments after transmission from the Ministry. --- ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
suggestions for next version window eyes
I really like the free window eyes for office. But I have a few suggestions to make it better. 1. rather than plain old e-speak. why not switch to speech player in e-speak with the edward voice as the default voice? it sounds much more like eloquence and is free. 2. Please add touch support and a touch cursor with keyboard emulation like jaws has. 3. Please add and switch to the tesseract OCR engine for doing OCR. and make it much easier to recognise pdf files. Josh ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: window eyes for office and jaws and voices
but why? and how did this come to be? and why couldn't window eyes do the same thing? On 11/1/2016 8:29 PM, Sky Mundell wrote: Hi. I doubt that JAWS will create a free office version because JAWS already has the market cornered by government agencies, institutions etc. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Joshua Kennedy via Talk Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 5:18 PM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: window eyes for office and jaws and voices hi Will window eyes for office also get the new vocalizer 2.2 voices such as Nathan? and also will they also make a jaws for office like they did window eyes? I would really like a free jaws for office as well. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/skyt%40shaw.ca . For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
window eyes for office and jaws and voices
hi Will window eyes for office also get the new vocalizer 2.2 voices such as Nathan? and also will they also make a jaws for office like they did window eyes? I would really like a free jaws for office as well. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
