Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-15 Thread Darrell Bowles via Talk
they were wise when ai-square bought GWMICRO, they are not so wise now. 
The last message that was sent please disregard.


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> On Jun 15, 2016, at 9:32 AM, Darrell Bowles via Talk 
>  wrote:
> 
> They were Wiseman AI squared GW Micro Product Discussion Listserv
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 15, 2016, at 9:26 AM, Veronica Smith via Talk 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Thank you for your wise words! v
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Talk
>> [mailto:talk-bounces+madison_tewe=spinn@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
>> Of Doug Geoffray via Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 10:19 AM
>> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
>> Subject: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared
>> 
>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>> I wanted to chime in here and give my personal thoughts to the bombshell 
>> released today regarding VFO (the parent company of Freedom Scientific 
>> and Optelec) acquiring Ai Squared.  And by bombshell, I don't mean a bad 
>> thing, I just mean it is shocking and unexpected news.
>> 
>> I know this may seem scary to many people.  I know that we have a great 
>> number of extremely loyal customers who may be feeling betrayed. There 
>> are lots of legit concerns and questions that I'm sure come to 
>> everyone's minds.  But honestly, nobody knows the answers at this 
>> point.  We are just starting the discussions internally of how best to 
>> take all our new resources, talent, products, etc. and meld them 
>> together to give the best customer experience.  For the next 6 months or 
>> so, it will be business as usual. After the 6 months, who knows at this 
>> point but I can guarantee the customers will benefit from the results.  
>> Nobody will be abandoned or taken advantage of, etc.  I'm very impressed 
>> with John Blake (CEO of VFO).  I truly believe John is in this for the 
>> customer.
>> 
>> Personally, I'm extremely excited with the possibilities.  Think about 
>> it, we now have all the best minds in this industry under one roof.  
>> Instead of us duplicating resources, we can combine them and inovate. 
>> Although Freedom has been our number one competitor since Dan and I 
>> started GW Micro in 1990, I've always had great respect for their 
>> engineers.  Okay, I've had questions about their corporate leadership, a 
>> certain lawsuit comes to mind (smile), but that was a completely 
>> different leadership team.  That was a different owner and a different 
>> CEO.  Vector has an outstanding reputation.  John Blake has shown great 
>> leadership and concern for the customer. Under this new leadership and 
>> available resources, I'm ready to take that and do whatever it takes to 
>> have the best possible solutions for our customers, for every low vision 
>> and blind person out there.
>> 
>> People may be concerned about lack of competition causing innovation and 
>> quality to suffer.  Nothing can be further from the truth. There is 
>> still plenty of competition out there, including free options but we 
>> have the determination and drive, starting at the corporate level all 
>> they way down to provide the best quality products, hands down.  Yes, 
>> this will take some time to prove but I'm hoping that everyone out there 
>> will give us that opportunity. Again, I'm putting everything I have into 
>> this venture and I wouldn't do that if I didn't believe in it.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Doug
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Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-15 Thread Darrell Bowles via Talk
They were Wiseman AI squared GW Micro Product Discussion Listserv

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 15, 2016, at 9:26 AM, Veronica Smith via Talk 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thank you for your wise words! v
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+madison_tewe=spinn@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
> Of Doug Geoffray via Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 10:19 AM
> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> I wanted to chime in here and give my personal thoughts to the bombshell 
> released today regarding VFO (the parent company of Freedom Scientific 
> and Optelec) acquiring Ai Squared.  And by bombshell, I don't mean a bad 
> thing, I just mean it is shocking and unexpected news.
> 
> I know this may seem scary to many people.  I know that we have a great 
> number of extremely loyal customers who may be feeling betrayed. There 
> are lots of legit concerns and questions that I'm sure come to 
> everyone's minds.  But honestly, nobody knows the answers at this 
> point.  We are just starting the discussions internally of how best to 
> take all our new resources, talent, products, etc. and meld them 
> together to give the best customer experience.  For the next 6 months or 
> so, it will be business as usual. After the 6 months, who knows at this 
> point but I can guarantee the customers will benefit from the results.  
> Nobody will be abandoned or taken advantage of, etc.  I'm very impressed 
> with John Blake (CEO of VFO).  I truly believe John is in this for the 
> customer.
> 
> Personally, I'm extremely excited with the possibilities.  Think about 
> it, we now have all the best minds in this industry under one roof.  
> Instead of us duplicating resources, we can combine them and inovate. 
> Although Freedom has been our number one competitor since Dan and I 
> started GW Micro in 1990, I've always had great respect for their 
> engineers.  Okay, I've had questions about their corporate leadership, a 
> certain lawsuit comes to mind (smile), but that was a completely 
> different leadership team.  That was a different owner and a different 
> CEO.  Vector has an outstanding reputation.  John Blake has shown great 
> leadership and concern for the customer. Under this new leadership and 
> available resources, I'm ready to take that and do whatever it takes to 
> have the best possible solutions for our customers, for every low vision 
> and blind person out there.
> 
> People may be concerned about lack of competition causing innovation and 
> quality to suffer.  Nothing can be further from the truth. There is 
> still plenty of competition out there, including free options but we 
> have the determination and drive, starting at the corporate level all 
> they way down to provide the best quality products, hands down.  Yes, 
> this will take some time to prove but I'm hoping that everyone out there 
> will give us that opportunity. Again, I'm putting everything I have into 
> this venture and I wouldn't do that if I didn't believe in it.
> 
> Regards,
> Doug
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RE: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-15 Thread Veronica Smith via Talk
Thank you for your wise words! v

-Original Message-
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[mailto:talk-bounces+madison_tewe=spinn@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Doug Geoffray via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 10:19 AM
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Subject: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

Hello everyone,

I wanted to chime in here and give my personal thoughts to the bombshell 
released today regarding VFO (the parent company of Freedom Scientific 
and Optelec) acquiring Ai Squared.  And by bombshell, I don't mean a bad 
thing, I just mean it is shocking and unexpected news.

I know this may seem scary to many people.  I know that we have a great 
number of extremely loyal customers who may be feeling betrayed. There 
are lots of legit concerns and questions that I'm sure come to 
everyone's minds.  But honestly, nobody knows the answers at this 
point.  We are just starting the discussions internally of how best to 
take all our new resources, talent, products, etc. and meld them 
together to give the best customer experience.  For the next 6 months or 
so, it will be business as usual. After the 6 months, who knows at this 
point but I can guarantee the customers will benefit from the results.  
Nobody will be abandoned or taken advantage of, etc.  I'm very impressed 
with John Blake (CEO of VFO).  I truly believe John is in this for the 
customer.

Personally, I'm extremely excited with the possibilities.  Think about 
it, we now have all the best minds in this industry under one roof.  
Instead of us duplicating resources, we can combine them and inovate. 
Although Freedom has been our number one competitor since Dan and I 
started GW Micro in 1990, I've always had great respect for their 
engineers.  Okay, I've had questions about their corporate leadership, a 
certain lawsuit comes to mind (smile), but that was a completely 
different leadership team.  That was a different owner and a different 
CEO.  Vector has an outstanding reputation.  John Blake has shown great 
leadership and concern for the customer. Under this new leadership and 
available resources, I'm ready to take that and do whatever it takes to 
have the best possible solutions for our customers, for every low vision 
and blind person out there.

People may be concerned about lack of competition causing innovation and 
quality to suffer.  Nothing can be further from the truth. There is 
still plenty of competition out there, including free options but we 
have the determination and drive, starting at the corporate level all 
they way down to provide the best quality products, hands down.  Yes, 
this will take some time to prove but I'm hoping that everyone out there 
will give us that opportunity. Again, I'm putting everything I have into 
this venture and I wouldn't do that if I didn't believe in it.

Regards,
Doug
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RE: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-15 Thread Mike Pietruk via Talk
Karyn 

I doubt that anti-trust can come into play in this situation.  For one 
thing, there is no barrier to entry into the screen reader/equipment 
market other than it makes little economic sense for anyone to do so given 
the economy and the disincentives for entrepreneurship.  The other, given 
the first, is that these are struggling businesses that are just 
attempting to keep afloat.
If the Justice Department attempted to block this, all that would happen 
is that AISquared would likely fold not survive.
These are mergers and consolidations out of desperation more than anything 
else.
Keep in mind that when HJ and GW-Micro came into existence, we were at the 
beginning of the era of the dotcoms.
We are not now living in such a time.




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On Tue, 14 Jun 2016, Karyn Campbell via Talk wrote:

> Darrell,
> 
> I would agree with that due to the anticompetetive nature of this so-called
> deal.
> 
> Hoepfully the Dept. of Justice will stop this one.
> 
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RE: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-14 Thread Sky Mundell via Talk
Hi Guys. Speaking of getting JAWS being promoted over Window-Eyes, I spoke
to an organisation about Window-Eyes last year, and one of the guys at the
organisation told me that he have had a huge moral problem with cost and
licenceing model of JAWS.

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Behalf Of Grant Metcalf via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 8:35 PM
To: fender...@sbcglobal.net; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

To those infavor of government intervention, Have you forgotten that the
Shark was highly promoted by governmental involvement? Do you think that
getting the government involved will probably?possibly? and/or impossibly!
help the cause of WindowEyes? I have my sincere doubts!


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Subject: RE: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

Great idea. Not!!!
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Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 8:21 PM
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Subject: RE: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

Darrell,

I would agree with that due to the anticompetetive nature of this so-called
deal.

Hoepfully the Dept. of Justice will stop this one.

Karyn Campbell, Illinois USA,  karyn1...@gmail.com
Using WE   9.4 on HP Pavilion running Windows 10 with Office 2013 and I.E.
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Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-14 Thread Grant Metcalf via Talk

To those infavor of government intervention,
Have you forgotten that the Shark was highly promoted by governmental 
involvement? Do you think that getting the government involved will 
probably?possibly? and/or impossibly! help the cause of WindowEyes? I have 
my sincere doubts!



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Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 6:46 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

Great idea. Not!!!
-Original Message-
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[mailto:talk-bounces+fenderwal=sbcglobal@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Karyn Campbell via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 8:21 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

Darrell,

I would agree with that due to the anticompetetive nature of this so-called
deal.

Hoepfully the Dept. of Justice will stop this one.

Karyn Campbell, Illinois USA,  karyn1...@gmail.com
Using WE   9.4 on HP Pavilion running Windows 10 with Office 2013 and I.E.
11 as default browser and Asuss convertible laptop running Windows 10 with
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RE: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-14 Thread via Talk
Great idea. Not!!!
-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Karyn Campbell via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 8:21 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

Darrell,

I would agree with that due to the anticompetetive nature of this so-called
deal.

Hoepfully the Dept. of Justice will stop this one.

Karyn Campbell, Illinois USA,  karyn1...@gmail.com
Using WE   9.4 on HP Pavilion running Windows 10 with Office 2013 and I.E.
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RE: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-14 Thread Karyn Campbell via Talk
Darrell,

I would agree with that due to the anticompetetive nature of this so-called
deal.

Hoepfully the Dept. of Justice will stop this one.

Karyn Campbell, Illinois USA,  karyn1...@gmail.com
Using WE   9.4 on HP Pavilion running Windows 10 with Office 2013 and I.E.
11 as default browser and Asuss convertible laptop running Windows 10 with
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RE: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-14 Thread Vaughan Dodd via Talk
Hi Doug and list.

I need to thank you Doug for the positive perspective and the sincerity of what 
you have said.

I just hope that internally, there is product design collaboration, and if that 
is so, user concern, (including mine) will of course disipate.

You are one of those great software engineers in this industry, so I'm trusting 
your judgement.  I note the emphasis on changes in corporate xstructure.  So 
hopefully - that includes proper international support, the opening up of 
better braille support across screen reader products, and the leadership 
commitment to direct interaction with customers, such as you and Dan created 
way back in the Vocal-Eyes days.

Vaughan.



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Sent: Wednesday, 15 June 2016 4:19 a.m.
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Subject: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

Hello everyone,

I wanted to chime in here and give my personal thoughts to the bombshell 
released today regarding VFO (the parent company of Freedom Scientific and 
Optelec) acquiring Ai Squared.  And by bombshell, I don't mean a bad thing, I 
just mean it is shocking and unexpected news.

I know this may seem scary to many people.  I know that we have a great number 
of extremely loyal customers who may be feeling betrayed. There are lots of 
legit concerns and questions that I'm sure come to everyone's minds.  But 
honestly, nobody knows the answers at this point.  We are just starting the 
discussions internally of how best to take all our new resources, talent, 
products, etc. and meld them together to give the best customer experience.  
For the next 6 months or so, it will be business as usual. After the 6 months, 
who knows at this point but I can guarantee the customers will benefit from the 
results.  
Nobody will be abandoned or taken advantage of, etc.  I'm very impressed with 
John Blake (CEO of VFO).  I truly believe John is in this for the customer.

Personally, I'm extremely excited with the possibilities.  Think about it, we 
now have all the best minds in this industry under one roof.  
Instead of us duplicating resources, we can combine them and inovate. 
Although Freedom has been our number one competitor since Dan and I started GW 
Micro in 1990, I've always had great respect for their engineers.  Okay, I've 
had questions about their corporate leadership, a certain lawsuit comes to mind 
(smile), but that was a completely different leadership team.  That was a 
different owner and a different CEO.  Vector has an outstanding reputation.  
John Blake has shown great leadership and concern for the customer. Under this 
new leadership and available resources, I'm ready to take that and do whatever 
it takes to have the best possible solutions for our customers, for every low 
vision and blind person out there.

People may be concerned about lack of competition causing innovation and 
quality to suffer.  Nothing can be further from the truth. There is still 
plenty of competition out there, including free options but we have the 
determination and drive, starting at the corporate level all they way down to 
provide the best quality products, hands down.  Yes, this will take some time 
to prove but I'm hoping that everyone out there will give us that opportunity. 
Again, I'm putting everything I have into this venture and I wouldn't do that 
if I didn't believe in it.

Regards,
Doug
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Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-14 Thread Kevin Barry via Talk
Say what you want, but when a leveraged buyout firm purchases a bunch of
businesses in an industry, the customers are in real trouble.
The absolute last thing they have in mind is benefiting the customer.

On Wednesday, June 15, 2016, Darrell Bowles via Talk <
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> As long as freedom scientific lets them.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Jun 14, 2016, at 4:32 PM, RJ Sandefur via Talk <
> talk@lists.window-eyes.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >
> > I just got a message from AIsquared, and they said they're going to
> continue support for all products. RJ
> >
> >
> >> On 6/14/2016 4:29 PM, Dennis Long via Talk wrote:
> >> It won't work
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982 <javascript:;>=
> gmail@lists.window-eyes.com <javascript:;>]
> >> On Behalf Of Darrell Bowles via Talk
> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 4:28 PM
> >> To: Rick Thomas; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> >> Subject: Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared
> >>
> >> I'm going to do it anyway.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>>> On Jun 14, 2016, at 4:25 PM, Rick Thomas via Talk
> >>> <talk@lists.window-eyes.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>> Hi: After calmer consideration, I don't think contacting government
> >>> will do any good since I believe they had no choice but to sell.
> >>> I hope the members of this and the scripting list will get the new
> >>> list addresses to sign up to before this list or the scripting list go
> >> away.
> >>> Also, if the office / WindowEyes payment agreement is nullifyed I hope
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> >>> Good luck to the folks who have managed, built and provided us support
> >>> all these years with our favorite screen reader.
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Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-14 Thread Darrell Bowles via Talk
As long as freedom scientific lets them.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 14, 2016, at 4:32 PM, RJ Sandefur via Talk 
> <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:
> 
> I just got a message from AIsquared, and they said they're going to continue 
> support for all products. RJ
> 
> 
>> On 6/14/2016 4:29 PM, Dennis Long via Talk wrote:
>> It won't work
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
>> On Behalf Of Darrell Bowles via Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 4:28 PM
>> To: Rick Thomas; Window-Eyes Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared
>> 
>> I'm going to do it anyway.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Jun 14, 2016, at 4:25 PM, Rick Thomas via Talk
>>> <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:
>>> Hi: After calmer consideration, I don't think contacting government
>>> will do any good since I believe they had no choice but to sell.
>>> I hope the members of this and the scripting list will get the new
>>> list addresses to sign up to before this list or the scripting list go
>> away.
>>> Also, if the office / WindowEyes payment agreement is nullifyed I hope
>>> we will be notified well in advance so we can make other plans.
>>> Good luck to the folks who have managed, built and provided us support
>>> all these years with our favorite screen reader.
>>> Rick USA
>>> 
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Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-14 Thread RJ Sandefur via Talk
I just got a message from AIsquared, and they said they're going to 
continue support for all products. RJ



On 6/14/2016 4:29 PM, Dennis Long via Talk wrote:

It won't work

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On Behalf Of Darrell Bowles via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 4:28 PM
To: Rick Thomas; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

I'm going to do it anyway.

Sent from my iPhone


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Hi: After calmer consideration, I don't think contacting government
will do any good since I believe they had no choice but to sell.
I hope the members of this and the scripting list will get the new
list addresses to sign up to before this list or the scripting list go

away.

Also, if the office / WindowEyes payment agreement is nullifyed I hope
we will be notified well in advance so we can make other plans.
Good luck to the folks who have managed, built and provided us support
all these years with our favorite screen reader.
Rick USA

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Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-14 Thread Darrell Bowles via Talk
I'm going to do it anyway.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 14, 2016, at 4:25 PM, Rick Thomas via Talk 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi: After calmer consideration, I don't think contacting government will do
> any good since I believe they had no choice but to sell.
> I hope the members of this and the scripting list will get the new list
> addresses to sign up to before this list or the scripting list go away.
> Also, if the office / WindowEyes payment agreement is nullifyed I hope we
> will be notified well in advance so we can make other plans.
> Good luck to the folks who have managed, built and provided us support all
> these years with our favorite screen reader.
> Rick USA
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RE: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-14 Thread Rick Thomas via Talk
Hi: After calmer consideration, I don't think contacting government will do
any good since I believe they had no choice but to sell.
I hope the members of this and the scripting list will get the new list
addresses to sign up to before this list or the scripting list go away.
Also, if the office / WindowEyes payment agreement is nullifyed I hope we
will be notified well in advance so we can make other plans.
Good luck to the folks who have managed, built and provided us support all
these years with our favorite screen reader.
Rick USA

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Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-14 Thread Don H via Talk
Although I am not a Apple user I understand their voice over works 
pretty well.  Maybe our hope should be that Microsoft adds a voice over 
to Windows and I am not talking about Narrator.

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RE: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-14 Thread Rick Thomas via Talk
Hi:
So would you contact the Justice Department or the FTC to file a complaint?
There are allot of scriptors out here who have put allot of time and effort
into work that wont be used under jaws and the folks who have purchassed the
office product to get hthe low-cost version of WindowEyes will be hurt as
well if, when, WindowEyes is cancelled.
I thought about calling but jaws actually works a little better than
WindowEyes in Visual Studio, my main work platform, for now, so the loss of
WindowEyes will only cost me if the Microsoft /  WindowEyes pricing
structure is deprecated and I am forced to buy a full copy of jaws.
Rick USA

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Behalf Of Kim Lingo via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 1:39 PM
To: Darrell Bowles <dgbow...@msn.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List
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Subject: Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

It's been a while since I've had to have any knowledge of this, as this was 
not my area of legal expertise.  However, I think Anti-trust suits are 
usually brought by the Justice Department, and as this really affects only a

very small smidgeon of the overall computer market, I wouldn't look for any 
action by DOJ. on this.  There may be a private right of action, by 
stockholders, but I don't know for sure, and since I'm now retired--you 
know--a recovering attorney--LOL, I'm not really interested in finding 
out.but since there are other options including Narrator which I believe has

no cost, I doubt this would fly either.  Also, you would have to show that 
the public, even a segment of the public has been harmed by this 
acquisition, and since it has just happened, that would be difficult to 
prove.

I haven't kept up with all these developments much since I still use XP, and

Windows 8.4.  I've been thinking about upgrading to Windows 7, since I've 
read so many people experiencing difficulty of one kind or another in using 
windows X.  Maybe I should make the switch to Apple.

Kim Lingo
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To: "'Rick Thomas'" <ofbgm...@mi.rr.com>; "'Window-Eyes Discussion List'" 
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 9:44 AM
Subject: RE: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared


> It has antitrust lawsuit written all over it.
>
> Darrell Bowles
> Assistive Technology Trainer
> Pelissippi State Community College
> 8656613917
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dgbowles=msn@lists.window-eyes.com] On
> Behalf Of Rick Thomas via Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 12:41 PM
> To: 'Doug Geoffray' <dgeoff...@aisquared.com>; 'Window-Eyes Discussion 
> List'
> <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
> Subject: RE: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared
>
> Hi Doug:
> Have you been contacted about anti-trust considerations?
> Seems like with only the JAWS company ownership owning both Jaws and
> WindowEyes there are not any other major competitiors out there and thus
> this combination would be anti-competitive in nature.
> I don't know if that applies to the current combination but has it been
> bought up in discussions?
> Rick USA
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+ofbgmail=mi.rr@lists.window-eyes.com] 
> On
> Behalf Of Doug Geoffray via Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 12:19 PM
> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
> Subject: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> I wanted to chime in here and give my personal thoughts to the bombshell
> released today regarding VFO (the parent company of Freedom Scientific and
> Optelec) acquiring Ai Squared.  And by bombshell, I don't mean a bad 
> thing,
> I just mean it is shocking and unexpected news.
>
> I know this may seem scary to many people.  I know that we have a great
> number of extremely loyal customers who may be feeling betrayed. There are
> lots of legit concerns and questions that I'm sure come to everyone's 
> minds.
> But honestly, nobody knows the answers at this point.  We are just 
> starting
> the discussions internally of how best to take all our new resources,
> talent, products, etc. and meld them together to give the best customer
> experience.  For the next 6 months or so, it will be business as usual.
> After the 6 months, who knows at this point but I can guarantee the
> customers will benefit from the results.
> Nobody will be abandoned or taken advantage of, etc.  I'm very impressed
> with John Blake (CEO of VFO).  I truly believe John is in this for the
> customer.
>
> Personally, I'm extremely excited with the possibilities.  Think about it,
> we now have all the best 

Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-14 Thread Jesse via Talk
Its a strange thing when change happens and maybe, a bit daunting.  That 
said, all we can do is move on and simply remember in other events out 
there where life is on the line makes this news small play.  I somehow 
doubt many in-or around Orlando could give a damn so which is more 
important?  Like them, we'll to move on.


Jesse


On 6/14/2016 12:30 PM, multi 85 via Talk wrote:

Look forward to Mosen spinning it for the FS Cast soon. This is also
bad, because what about the situation where sometimes one screenreader
is good for some situations or works with one program and then you use
another for a different situation? Less screenreaders = could be
problematic.

On 6/14/16, net bat via Talk  wrote:

wishful thinking.
look for another job. when aisquared murges with freedom most aisquared
employees will be fired.
this happened with both my parents when humble oil bought out signal oil.
they
promised all the signal oil employees would be retained.
that lasted for 6 months then all signal people were fired. they only wanted

humble oil employyees working for them that would remain loyal to the
company.


-Original Message-
From: Doug Geoffray via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 9:18 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

Hello everyone,

I wanted to chime in here and give my personal thoughts to the bombshell
released today regarding VFO (the parent company of Freedom Scientific
and Optelec) acquiring Ai Squared.  And by bombshell, I don't mean a bad
thing, I just mean it is shocking and unexpected news.

I know this may seem scary to many people.  I know that we have a great
number of extremely loyal customers who may be feeling betrayed. There
are lots of legit concerns and questions that I'm sure come to
everyone's minds.  But honestly, nobody knows the answers at this
point.  We are just starting the discussions internally of how best to
take all our new resources, talent, products, etc. and meld them
together to give the best customer experience.  For the next 6 months or
so, it will be business as usual. After the 6 months, who knows at this
point but I can guarantee the customers will benefit from the results.
Nobody will be abandoned or taken advantage of, etc.  I'm very impressed
with John Blake (CEO of VFO).  I truly believe John is in this for the
customer.

Personally, I'm extremely excited with the possibilities.  Think about
it, we now have all the best minds in this industry under one roof.
Instead of us duplicating resources, we can combine them and inovate.
Although Freedom has been our number one competitor since Dan and I
started GW Micro in 1990, I've always had great respect for their
engineers.  Okay, I've had questions about their corporate leadership, a
certain lawsuit comes to mind (smile), but that was a completely
different leadership team.  That was a different owner and a different
CEO.  Vector has an outstanding reputation.  John Blake has shown great
leadership and concern for the customer. Under this new leadership and
available resources, I'm ready to take that and do whatever it takes to
have the best possible solutions for our customers, for every low vision
and blind person out there.

People may be concerned about lack of competition causing innovation and
quality to suffer.  Nothing can be further from the truth. There is
still plenty of competition out there, including free options but we
have the determination and drive, starting at the corporate level all
they way down to provide the best quality products, hands down.  Yes,
this will take some time to prove but I'm hoping that everyone out there
will give us that opportunity. Again, I'm putting everything I have into
this venture and I wouldn't do that if I didn't believe in it.

Regards,
Doug
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RE: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-14 Thread Armando Maldonado via Talk
Well said Tom. 

-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 11:34 AM
To: Darrell Bowles; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

We heard you the first 72 times!

When are you going to take a break to call the Federal Trade Commission, 
the president, the United Nations, and NATO? Filing law suits, 
negotiations, legislative actions, and nuclear war all take time.

On 6/14/2016 2:27 PM, Darrell Bowles via Talk wrote:
> I have confidence in people, I do not haveconfidence in corporate giants.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jun 14, 2016, at 2:26 PM, Bill Tillery via Talk
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>>
>> Thank you Doug,
>>
>> As always you bring a commen sense and calming approach to inevitable
>> changing in the field of accessibility.  I, for one, am certainly willing
to
>> give the new venture a chance to work for everyone and, as always, have
>> total confidence in all of you in this field to give it your best.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+trbft=mediacombb@lists.window-eyes.com]
>> On Behalf Of Doug Geoffray via Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 11:19 AM
>> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
>> Subject: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> I wanted to chime in here and give my personal thoughts to the bombshell
>> released today regarding VFO (the parent company of Freedom Scientific
>> and Optelec) acquiring Ai Squared.  And by bombshell, I don't mean a bad
>> thing, I just mean it is shocking and unexpected news.
>>
>> I know this may seem scary to many people.  I know that we have a great
>> number of extremely loyal customers who may be feeling betrayed. There
>> are lots of legit concerns and questions that I'm sure come to
>> everyone's minds.  But honestly, nobody knows the answers at this
>> point.  We are just starting the discussions internally of how best to
>> take all our new resources, talent, products, etc. and meld them
>> together to give the best customer experience.  For the next 6 months or
>> so, it will be business as usual. After the 6 months, who knows at this
>> point but I can guarantee the customers will benefit from the results.
>> Nobody will be abandoned or taken advantage of, etc.  I'm very impressed
>> with John Blake (CEO of VFO).  I truly believe John is in this for the
>> customer.
>>
>> Personally, I'm extremely excited with the possibilities.  Think about
>> it, we now have all the best minds in this industry under one roof.
>> Instead of us duplicating resources, we can combine them and inovate.
>> Although Freedom has been our number one competitor since Dan and I
>> started GW Micro in 1990, I've always had great respect for their
>> engineers.  Okay, I've had questions about their corporate leadership, a
>> certain lawsuit comes to mind (smile), but that was a completely
>> different leadership team.  That was a different owner and a different
>> CEO.  Vector has an outstanding reputation.  John Blake has shown great
>> leadership and concern for the customer. Under this new leadership and
>> available resources, I'm ready to take that and do whatever it takes to
>> have the best possible solutions for our customers, for every low vision
>> and blind person out there.
>>
>> People may be concerned about lack of competition causing innovation and
>> quality to suffer.  Nothing can be further from the truth. There is
>> still plenty of competition out there, including free options but we
>> have the determination and drive, starting at the corporate level all
>> they way down to provide the best quality products, hands down.  Yes,
>> this will take some time to prove but I'm hoping that everyone out there
>> will give us that opportunity. Again, I'm putting everything I have into
>> this venture and I wouldn't do that if I didn't believe in it.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Doug
>> ___
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author
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Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-14 Thread Tom Kingston via Talk

We heard you the first 72 times!

When are you going to take a break to call the Federal Trade Commission, 
the president, the United Nations, and NATO? Filing law suits, 
negotiations, legislative actions, and nuclear war all take time.


On 6/14/2016 2:27 PM, Darrell Bowles via Talk wrote:

I have confidence in people, I do not haveconfidence in corporate giants.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 14, 2016, at 2:26 PM, Bill Tillery via Talk  
wrote:

Thank you Doug,

As always you bring a commen sense and calming approach to inevitable
changing in the field of accessibility.  I, for one, am certainly willing to
give the new venture a chance to work for everyone and, as always, have
total confidence in all of you in this field to give it your best.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+trbft=mediacombb@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Doug Geoffray via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 11:19 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

Hello everyone,

I wanted to chime in here and give my personal thoughts to the bombshell
released today regarding VFO (the parent company of Freedom Scientific
and Optelec) acquiring Ai Squared.  And by bombshell, I don't mean a bad
thing, I just mean it is shocking and unexpected news.

I know this may seem scary to many people.  I know that we have a great
number of extremely loyal customers who may be feeling betrayed. There
are lots of legit concerns and questions that I'm sure come to
everyone's minds.  But honestly, nobody knows the answers at this
point.  We are just starting the discussions internally of how best to
take all our new resources, talent, products, etc. and meld them
together to give the best customer experience.  For the next 6 months or
so, it will be business as usual. After the 6 months, who knows at this
point but I can guarantee the customers will benefit from the results.
Nobody will be abandoned or taken advantage of, etc.  I'm very impressed
with John Blake (CEO of VFO).  I truly believe John is in this for the
customer.

Personally, I'm extremely excited with the possibilities.  Think about
it, we now have all the best minds in this industry under one roof.
Instead of us duplicating resources, we can combine them and inovate.
Although Freedom has been our number one competitor since Dan and I
started GW Micro in 1990, I've always had great respect for their
engineers.  Okay, I've had questions about their corporate leadership, a
certain lawsuit comes to mind (smile), but that was a completely
different leadership team.  That was a different owner and a different
CEO.  Vector has an outstanding reputation.  John Blake has shown great
leadership and concern for the customer. Under this new leadership and
available resources, I'm ready to take that and do whatever it takes to
have the best possible solutions for our customers, for every low vision
and blind person out there.

People may be concerned about lack of competition causing innovation and
quality to suffer.  Nothing can be further from the truth. There is
still plenty of competition out there, including free options but we
have the determination and drive, starting at the corporate level all
they way down to provide the best quality products, hands down.  Yes,
this will take some time to prove but I'm hoping that everyone out there
will give us that opportunity. Again, I'm putting everything I have into
this venture and I wouldn't do that if I didn't believe in it.

Regards,
Doug
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Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-14 Thread RJ Sandefur via Talk

Will you please stop wining like children!


On 6/14/2016 1:53 PM, Darrell Bowles via Talk wrote:

Of course I do.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 14, 2016, at 1:52 PM, Robert Ringwald via Talk 
 wrote:

Does anyone know the word "Monopoly???"

-Bob Ringwald


-Original Message- From: Doug Geoffray via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 9:18 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

Hello everyone,

I wanted to chime in here and give my personal thoughts to the bombshell
released today regarding VFO (the parent company of Freedom Scientific
and Optelec) acquiring Ai Squared.  And by bombshell, I don't mean a bad
thing, I just mean it is shocking and unexpected news.

I know this may seem scary to many people.  I know that we have a great
number of extremely loyal customers who may be feeling betrayed. There
are lots of legit concerns and questions that I'm sure come to
everyone's minds.  But honestly, nobody knows the answers at this
point.  We are just starting the discussions internally of how best to
take all our new resources, talent, products, etc. and meld them
together to give the best customer experience.  For the next 6 months or
so, it will be business as usual. After the 6 months, who knows at this
point but I can guarantee the customers will benefit from the results.
Nobody will be abandoned or taken advantage of, etc.  I'm very impressed
with John Blake (CEO of VFO).  I truly believe John is in this for the
customer.

Personally, I'm extremely excited with the possibilities.  Think about
it, we now have all the best minds in this industry under one roof.
Instead of us duplicating resources, we can combine them and inovate.
Although Freedom has been our number one competitor since Dan and I
started GW Micro in 1990, I've always had great respect for their
engineers.  Okay, I've had questions about their corporate leadership, a
certain lawsuit comes to mind (smile), but that was a completely
different leadership team.  That was a different owner and a different
CEO.  Vector has an outstanding reputation.  John Blake has shown great
leadership and concern for the customer. Under this new leadership and
available resources, I'm ready to take that and do whatever it takes to
have the best possible solutions for our customers, for every low vision
and blind person out there.

People may be concerned about lack of competition causing innovation and
quality to suffer.  Nothing can be further from the truth. There is
still plenty of competition out there, including free options but we
have the determination and drive, starting at the corporate level all
they way down to provide the best quality products, hands down.  Yes,
this will take some time to prove but I'm hoping that everyone out there
will give us that opportunity. Again, I'm putting everything I have into
this venture and I wouldn't do that if I didn't believe in it.

Regards,
Doug
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Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-14 Thread Darrell Bowles via Talk
I have confidence in people, I do not haveconfidence in corporate giants.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 14, 2016, at 2:26 PM, Bill Tillery via Talk 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thank you Doug,
> 
> As always you bring a commen sense and calming approach to inevitable
> changing in the field of accessibility.  I, for one, am certainly willing to
> give the new venture a chance to work for everyone and, as always, have
> total confidence in all of you in this field to give it your best.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+trbft=mediacombb@lists.window-eyes.com]
> On Behalf Of Doug Geoffray via Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 11:19 AM
> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
> Subject: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> I wanted to chime in here and give my personal thoughts to the bombshell 
> released today regarding VFO (the parent company of Freedom Scientific 
> and Optelec) acquiring Ai Squared.  And by bombshell, I don't mean a bad 
> thing, I just mean it is shocking and unexpected news.
> 
> I know this may seem scary to many people.  I know that we have a great 
> number of extremely loyal customers who may be feeling betrayed. There 
> are lots of legit concerns and questions that I'm sure come to 
> everyone's minds.  But honestly, nobody knows the answers at this 
> point.  We are just starting the discussions internally of how best to 
> take all our new resources, talent, products, etc. and meld them 
> together to give the best customer experience.  For the next 6 months or 
> so, it will be business as usual. After the 6 months, who knows at this 
> point but I can guarantee the customers will benefit from the results.  
> Nobody will be abandoned or taken advantage of, etc.  I'm very impressed 
> with John Blake (CEO of VFO).  I truly believe John is in this for the 
> customer.
> 
> Personally, I'm extremely excited with the possibilities.  Think about 
> it, we now have all the best minds in this industry under one roof.  
> Instead of us duplicating resources, we can combine them and inovate. 
> Although Freedom has been our number one competitor since Dan and I 
> started GW Micro in 1990, I've always had great respect for their 
> engineers.  Okay, I've had questions about their corporate leadership, a 
> certain lawsuit comes to mind (smile), but that was a completely 
> different leadership team.  That was a different owner and a different 
> CEO.  Vector has an outstanding reputation.  John Blake has shown great 
> leadership and concern for the customer. Under this new leadership and 
> available resources, I'm ready to take that and do whatever it takes to 
> have the best possible solutions for our customers, for every low vision 
> and blind person out there.
> 
> People may be concerned about lack of competition causing innovation and 
> quality to suffer.  Nothing can be further from the truth. There is 
> still plenty of competition out there, including free options but we 
> have the determination and drive, starting at the corporate level all 
> they way down to provide the best quality products, hands down.  Yes, 
> this will take some time to prove but I'm hoping that everyone out there 
> will give us that opportunity. Again, I'm putting everything I have into 
> this venture and I wouldn't do that if I didn't believe in it.
> 
> Regards,
> Doug
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RE: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-14 Thread Dennis Long via Talk
I agree.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Bill Tillery via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 2:27 PM
To: 'Doug Geoffray'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

Thank you Doug,

As always you bring a commen sense and calming approach to inevitable
changing in the field of accessibility.  I, for one, am certainly willing to
give the new venture a chance to work for everyone and, as always, have
total confidence in all of you in this field to give it your best.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+trbft=mediacombb@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Doug Geoffray via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 11:19 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

Hello everyone,

I wanted to chime in here and give my personal thoughts to the bombshell
released today regarding VFO (the parent company of Freedom Scientific and
Optelec) acquiring Ai Squared.  And by bombshell, I don't mean a bad thing,
I just mean it is shocking and unexpected news.

I know this may seem scary to many people.  I know that we have a great
number of extremely loyal customers who may be feeling betrayed. There are
lots of legit concerns and questions that I'm sure come to everyone's minds.
But honestly, nobody knows the answers at this point.  We are just starting
the discussions internally of how best to take all our new resources,
talent, products, etc. and meld them together to give the best customer
experience.  For the next 6 months or so, it will be business as usual.
After the 6 months, who knows at this point but I can guarantee the
customers will benefit from the results.  
Nobody will be abandoned or taken advantage of, etc.  I'm very impressed
with John Blake (CEO of VFO).  I truly believe John is in this for the
customer.

Personally, I'm extremely excited with the possibilities.  Think about it,
we now have all the best minds in this industry under one roof.  
Instead of us duplicating resources, we can combine them and inovate. 
Although Freedom has been our number one competitor since Dan and I started
GW Micro in 1990, I've always had great respect for their engineers.  Okay,
I've had questions about their corporate leadership, a certain lawsuit comes
to mind (smile), but that was a completely different leadership team.  That
was a different owner and a different CEO.  Vector has an outstanding
reputation.  John Blake has shown great leadership and concern for the
customer. Under this new leadership and available resources, I'm ready to
take that and do whatever it takes to have the best possible solutions for
our customers, for every low vision and blind person out there.

People may be concerned about lack of competition causing innovation and
quality to suffer.  Nothing can be further from the truth. There is still
plenty of competition out there, including free options but we have the
determination and drive, starting at the corporate level all they way down
to provide the best quality products, hands down.  Yes, this will take some
time to prove but I'm hoping that everyone out there will give us that
opportunity. Again, I'm putting everything I have into this venture and I
wouldn't do that if I didn't believe in it.

Regards,
Doug
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RE: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-14 Thread Bill Tillery via Talk
Thank you Doug,

As always you bring a commen sense and calming approach to inevitable
changing in the field of accessibility.  I, for one, am certainly willing to
give the new venture a chance to work for everyone and, as always, have
total confidence in all of you in this field to give it your best.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+trbft=mediacombb@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Doug Geoffray via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 11:19 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

Hello everyone,

I wanted to chime in here and give my personal thoughts to the bombshell 
released today regarding VFO (the parent company of Freedom Scientific 
and Optelec) acquiring Ai Squared.  And by bombshell, I don't mean a bad 
thing, I just mean it is shocking and unexpected news.

I know this may seem scary to many people.  I know that we have a great 
number of extremely loyal customers who may be feeling betrayed. There 
are lots of legit concerns and questions that I'm sure come to 
everyone's minds.  But honestly, nobody knows the answers at this 
point.  We are just starting the discussions internally of how best to 
take all our new resources, talent, products, etc. and meld them 
together to give the best customer experience.  For the next 6 months or 
so, it will be business as usual. After the 6 months, who knows at this 
point but I can guarantee the customers will benefit from the results.  
Nobody will be abandoned or taken advantage of, etc.  I'm very impressed 
with John Blake (CEO of VFO).  I truly believe John is in this for the 
customer.

Personally, I'm extremely excited with the possibilities.  Think about 
it, we now have all the best minds in this industry under one roof.  
Instead of us duplicating resources, we can combine them and inovate. 
Although Freedom has been our number one competitor since Dan and I 
started GW Micro in 1990, I've always had great respect for their 
engineers.  Okay, I've had questions about their corporate leadership, a 
certain lawsuit comes to mind (smile), but that was a completely 
different leadership team.  That was a different owner and a different 
CEO.  Vector has an outstanding reputation.  John Blake has shown great 
leadership and concern for the customer. Under this new leadership and 
available resources, I'm ready to take that and do whatever it takes to 
have the best possible solutions for our customers, for every low vision 
and blind person out there.

People may be concerned about lack of competition causing innovation and 
quality to suffer.  Nothing can be further from the truth. There is 
still plenty of competition out there, including free options but we 
have the determination and drive, starting at the corporate level all 
they way down to provide the best quality products, hands down.  Yes, 
this will take some time to prove but I'm hoping that everyone out there 
will give us that opportunity. Again, I'm putting everything I have into 
this venture and I wouldn't do that if I didn't believe in it.

Regards,
Doug
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Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-14 Thread Nick Sarames via Talk

Complaining is not the same as taking action.

On 6/14/2016 1:49 PM, Darrell Bowles via Talk wrote:

I am tired of waiting to see what happens. I am going to take action.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 14, 2016, at 1:49 PM, Dennis Long via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> 
wrote:

Let's just wait and see what happens.  We don't know the inner workings of
the agreement.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Reeva Webb via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 12:25 PM
To: Doug Geoffray; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

"nobody will be abandoned or taken advantage of" I respect you a lot and
it's great that your optimistic about this, as far as I'm concerned
lollollollollollollol I'll believe it when I see it.



On Tuesday, June 14, 2016, Doug Geoffray via Talk <
talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:


Hello everyone,

I wanted to chime in here and give my personal thoughts to the
bombshell released today regarding VFO (the parent company of Freedom
Scientific and Optelec) acquiring Ai Squared.  And by bombshell, I
don't mean a bad thing, I just mean it is shocking and unexpected news.

I know this may seem scary to many people.  I know that we have a
great number of extremely loyal customers who may be feeling betrayed.
There are lots of legit concerns and questions that I'm sure come to
everyone's minds.  But honestly, nobody knows the answers at this
point.  We are just starting the discussions internally of how best to
take all our new resources, talent, products, etc. and meld them
together to give the best customer experience.  For the next 6 months
or so, it will be business as usual. After the 6 months, who knows at
this point but I can guarantee the customers will benefit from the

results.

Nobody will be abandoned or taken advantage of, etc.  I'm very
impressed with John Blake (CEO of VFO).  I truly believe John is in
this for the customer.

Personally, I'm extremely excited with the possibilities.  Think about
it, we now have all the best minds in this industry under one roof.
Instead of us duplicating resources, we can combine them and inovate.
Although Freedom has been our number one competitor since Dan and I
started GW Micro in 1990, I've always had great respect for their
engineers.  Okay, I've had questions about their corporate leadership,
a certain lawsuit comes to mind (smile), but that was a completely
different leadership team.  That was a different owner and a different
CEO.  Vector has an outstanding reputation.  John Blake has shown
great leadership and concern for the customer. Under this new
leadership and available resources, I'm ready to take that and do
whatever it takes to have the best possible solutions for our
customers, for every low vision and blind person out there.

People may be concerned about lack of competition causing innovation
and quality to suffer.  Nothing can be further from the truth. There
is still plenty of competition out there, including free options but
we have the determination and drive, starting at the corporate level
all they way down to provide the best quality products, hands down.
Yes, this will take some time to prove but I'm hoping that everyone
out there will give us that opportunity. Again, I'm putting everything
I have into this venture and I wouldn't do that if I didn't believe in it.

Regards,
Doug
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Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-14 Thread Darrell Bowles via Talk
Of course I do.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 14, 2016, at 1:52 PM, Robert Ringwald via Talk 
>  wrote:
> 
> Does anyone know the word "Monopoly???"
> 
> -Bob Ringwald
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: Doug Geoffray via Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 9:18 AM
> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> I wanted to chime in here and give my personal thoughts to the bombshell
> released today regarding VFO (the parent company of Freedom Scientific
> and Optelec) acquiring Ai Squared.  And by bombshell, I don't mean a bad
> thing, I just mean it is shocking and unexpected news.
> 
> I know this may seem scary to many people.  I know that we have a great
> number of extremely loyal customers who may be feeling betrayed. There
> are lots of legit concerns and questions that I'm sure come to
> everyone's minds.  But honestly, nobody knows the answers at this
> point.  We are just starting the discussions internally of how best to
> take all our new resources, talent, products, etc. and meld them
> together to give the best customer experience.  For the next 6 months or
> so, it will be business as usual. After the 6 months, who knows at this
> point but I can guarantee the customers will benefit from the results.
> Nobody will be abandoned or taken advantage of, etc.  I'm very impressed
> with John Blake (CEO of VFO).  I truly believe John is in this for the
> customer.
> 
> Personally, I'm extremely excited with the possibilities.  Think about
> it, we now have all the best minds in this industry under one roof.
> Instead of us duplicating resources, we can combine them and inovate.
> Although Freedom has been our number one competitor since Dan and I
> started GW Micro in 1990, I've always had great respect for their
> engineers.  Okay, I've had questions about their corporate leadership, a
> certain lawsuit comes to mind (smile), but that was a completely
> different leadership team.  That was a different owner and a different
> CEO.  Vector has an outstanding reputation.  John Blake has shown great
> leadership and concern for the customer. Under this new leadership and
> available resources, I'm ready to take that and do whatever it takes to
> have the best possible solutions for our customers, for every low vision
> and blind person out there.
> 
> People may be concerned about lack of competition causing innovation and
> quality to suffer.  Nothing can be further from the truth. There is
> still plenty of competition out there, including free options but we
> have the determination and drive, starting at the corporate level all
> they way down to provide the best quality products, hands down.  Yes,
> this will take some time to prove but I'm hoping that everyone out there
> will give us that opportunity. Again, I'm putting everything I have into
> this venture and I wouldn't do that if I didn't believe in it.
> 
> Regards,
> Doug
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Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-14 Thread Darrell Bowles via Talk
I am tired of waiting to see what happens. I am going to take action.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 14, 2016, at 1:49 PM, Dennis Long via Talk 
> <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:
> 
> Let's just wait and see what happens.  We don't know the inner workings of
> the agreement.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
> On Behalf Of Reeva Webb via Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 12:25 PM
> To: Doug Geoffray; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared
> 
> "nobody will be abandoned or taken advantage of" I respect you a lot and
> it's great that your optimistic about this, as far as I'm concerned
> lollollollollollollol I'll believe it when I see it.
> 
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, June 14, 2016, Doug Geoffray via Talk <
> talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>> I wanted to chime in here and give my personal thoughts to the 
>> bombshell released today regarding VFO (the parent company of Freedom 
>> Scientific and Optelec) acquiring Ai Squared.  And by bombshell, I 
>> don't mean a bad thing, I just mean it is shocking and unexpected news.
>> 
>> I know this may seem scary to many people.  I know that we have a 
>> great number of extremely loyal customers who may be feeling betrayed. 
>> There are lots of legit concerns and questions that I'm sure come to 
>> everyone's minds.  But honestly, nobody knows the answers at this 
>> point.  We are just starting the discussions internally of how best to 
>> take all our new resources, talent, products, etc. and meld them 
>> together to give the best customer experience.  For the next 6 months 
>> or so, it will be business as usual. After the 6 months, who knows at 
>> this point but I can guarantee the customers will benefit from the
> results.
>> Nobody will be abandoned or taken advantage of, etc.  I'm very 
>> impressed with John Blake (CEO of VFO).  I truly believe John is in 
>> this for the customer.
>> 
>> Personally, I'm extremely excited with the possibilities.  Think about 
>> it, we now have all the best minds in this industry under one roof.
>> Instead of us duplicating resources, we can combine them and inovate.
>> Although Freedom has been our number one competitor since Dan and I 
>> started GW Micro in 1990, I've always had great respect for their 
>> engineers.  Okay, I've had questions about their corporate leadership, 
>> a certain lawsuit comes to mind (smile), but that was a completely 
>> different leadership team.  That was a different owner and a different 
>> CEO.  Vector has an outstanding reputation.  John Blake has shown 
>> great leadership and concern for the customer. Under this new 
>> leadership and available resources, I'm ready to take that and do 
>> whatever it takes to have the best possible solutions for our 
>> customers, for every low vision and blind person out there.
>> 
>> People may be concerned about lack of competition causing innovation 
>> and quality to suffer.  Nothing can be further from the truth. There 
>> is still plenty of competition out there, including free options but 
>> we have the determination and drive, starting at the corporate level 
>> all they way down to provide the best quality products, hands down.  
>> Yes, this will take some time to prove but I'm hoping that everyone 
>> out there will give us that opportunity. Again, I'm putting everything 
>> I have into this venture and I wouldn't do that if I didn't believe in it.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Doug
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>> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared.
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RE: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-14 Thread Dennis Long via Talk
Let's just wait and see what happens.  We don't know the inner workings of
the agreement.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Reeva Webb via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 12:25 PM
To: Doug Geoffray; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

"nobody will be abandoned or taken advantage of" I respect you a lot and
it's great that your optimistic about this, as far as I'm concerned
lollollollollollollol I'll believe it when I see it.



On Tuesday, June 14, 2016, Doug Geoffray via Talk <
talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> I wanted to chime in here and give my personal thoughts to the 
> bombshell released today regarding VFO (the parent company of Freedom 
> Scientific and Optelec) acquiring Ai Squared.  And by bombshell, I 
> don't mean a bad thing, I just mean it is shocking and unexpected news.
>
> I know this may seem scary to many people.  I know that we have a 
> great number of extremely loyal customers who may be feeling betrayed. 
> There are lots of legit concerns and questions that I'm sure come to 
> everyone's minds.  But honestly, nobody knows the answers at this 
> point.  We are just starting the discussions internally of how best to 
> take all our new resources, talent, products, etc. and meld them 
> together to give the best customer experience.  For the next 6 months 
> or so, it will be business as usual. After the 6 months, who knows at 
> this point but I can guarantee the customers will benefit from the
results.
> Nobody will be abandoned or taken advantage of, etc.  I'm very 
> impressed with John Blake (CEO of VFO).  I truly believe John is in 
> this for the customer.
>
> Personally, I'm extremely excited with the possibilities.  Think about 
> it, we now have all the best minds in this industry under one roof.
> Instead of us duplicating resources, we can combine them and inovate.
> Although Freedom has been our number one competitor since Dan and I 
> started GW Micro in 1990, I've always had great respect for their 
> engineers.  Okay, I've had questions about their corporate leadership, 
> a certain lawsuit comes to mind (smile), but that was a completely 
> different leadership team.  That was a different owner and a different 
> CEO.  Vector has an outstanding reputation.  John Blake has shown 
> great leadership and concern for the customer. Under this new 
> leadership and available resources, I'm ready to take that and do 
> whatever it takes to have the best possible solutions for our 
> customers, for every low vision and blind person out there.
>
> People may be concerned about lack of competition causing innovation 
> and quality to suffer.  Nothing can be further from the truth. There 
> is still plenty of competition out there, including free options but 
> we have the determination and drive, starting at the corporate level 
> all they way down to provide the best quality products, hands down.  
> Yes, this will take some time to prove but I'm hoping that everyone 
> out there will give us that opportunity. Again, I'm putting everything 
> I have into this venture and I wouldn't do that if I didn't believe in it.
>
> Regards,
> Doug
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Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-14 Thread Kim Lingo via Talk
It's been a while since I've had to have any knowledge of this, as this was 
not my area of legal expertise.  However, I think Anti-trust suits are 
usually brought by the Justice Department, and as this really affects only a 
very small smidgeon of the overall computer market, I wouldn't look for any 
action by DOJ. on this.  There may be a private right of action, by 
stockholders, but I don't know for sure, and since I'm now retired--you 
know--a recovering attorney--LOL, I'm not really interested in finding 
out.but since there are other options including Narrator which I believe has 
no cost, I doubt this would fly either.  Also, you would have to show that 
the public, even a segment of the public has been harmed by this 
acquisition, and since it has just happened, that would be difficult to 
prove.


I haven't kept up with all these developments much since I still use XP, and 
Windows 8.4.  I've been thinking about upgrading to Windows 7, since I've 
read so many people experiencing difficulty of one kind or another in using 
windows X.  Maybe I should make the switch to Apple.


Kim Lingo
- Original Message - 
From: "Darrell Bowles via Talk" <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
To: "'Rick Thomas'" <ofbgm...@mi.rr.com>; "'Window-Eyes Discussion List'" 
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>

Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 9:44 AM
Subject: RE: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared



It has antitrust lawsuit written all over it.

Darrell Bowles
Assistive Technology Trainer
Pelissippi State Community College
8656613917




-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dgbowles=msn@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Rick Thomas via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 12:41 PM
To: 'Doug Geoffray' <dgeoff...@aisquared.com>; 'Window-Eyes Discussion 
List'

<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: RE: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

Hi Doug:
Have you been contacted about anti-trust considerations?
Seems like with only the JAWS company ownership owning both Jaws and
WindowEyes there are not any other major competitiors out there and thus
this combination would be anti-competitive in nature.
I don't know if that applies to the current combination but has it been
bought up in discussions?
Rick USA

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+ofbgmail=mi.rr@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On

Behalf Of Doug Geoffray via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 12:19 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

Hello everyone,

I wanted to chime in here and give my personal thoughts to the bombshell
released today regarding VFO (the parent company of Freedom Scientific and
Optelec) acquiring Ai Squared.  And by bombshell, I don't mean a bad 
thing,

I just mean it is shocking and unexpected news.

I know this may seem scary to many people.  I know that we have a great
number of extremely loyal customers who may be feeling betrayed. There are
lots of legit concerns and questions that I'm sure come to everyone's 
minds.
But honestly, nobody knows the answers at this point.  We are just 
starting

the discussions internally of how best to take all our new resources,
talent, products, etc. and meld them together to give the best customer
experience.  For the next 6 months or so, it will be business as usual.
After the 6 months, who knows at this point but I can guarantee the
customers will benefit from the results.
Nobody will be abandoned or taken advantage of, etc.  I'm very impressed
with John Blake (CEO of VFO).  I truly believe John is in this for the
customer.

Personally, I'm extremely excited with the possibilities.  Think about it,
we now have all the best minds in this industry under one roof.
Instead of us duplicating resources, we can combine them and inovate.
Although Freedom has been our number one competitor since Dan and I 
started
GW Micro in 1990, I've always had great respect for their engineers. 
Okay,
I've had questions about their corporate leadership, a certain lawsuit 
comes
to mind (smile), but that was a completely different leadership team. 
That

was a different owner and a different CEO.  Vector has an outstanding
reputation.  John Blake has shown great leadership and concern for the
customer. Under this new leadership and available resources, I'm ready to
take that and do whatever it takes to have the best possible solutions for
our customers, for every low vision and blind person out there.

People may be concerned about lack of competition causing innovation and
quality to suffer.  Nothing can be further from the truth. There is still
plenty of competition out there, including free options but we have the
determination and drive, starting at the corporate level all they way down
to provide the best quality products, hands down.  Yes, this will take 
some

time to prove but I'm hoping that everyone out there will give us that
opportunity. Again, I'm putting ever

Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-14 Thread Darrell Bowles via Talk
Amen, and amen.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 14, 2016, at 1:30 PM, multi 85 via Talk  
> wrote:
> 
> Look forward to Mosen spinning it for the FS Cast soon. This is also
> bad, because what about the situation where sometimes one screenreader
> is good for some situations or works with one program and then you use
> another for a different situation? Less screenreaders = could be
> problematic.
> 
>> On 6/14/16, net bat via Talk  wrote:
>> wishful thinking.
>> look for another job. when aisquared murges with freedom most aisquared
>> employees will be fired.
>> this happened with both my parents when humble oil bought out signal oil.
>> they
>> promised all the signal oil employees would be retained.
>> that lasted for 6 months then all signal people were fired. they only wanted
>> 
>> humble oil employyees working for them that would remain loyal to the
>> company.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Doug Geoffray via Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 9:18 AM
>> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
>> Subject: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared
>> 
>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>> I wanted to chime in here and give my personal thoughts to the bombshell
>> released today regarding VFO (the parent company of Freedom Scientific
>> and Optelec) acquiring Ai Squared.  And by bombshell, I don't mean a bad
>> thing, I just mean it is shocking and unexpected news.
>> 
>> I know this may seem scary to many people.  I know that we have a great
>> number of extremely loyal customers who may be feeling betrayed. There
>> are lots of legit concerns and questions that I'm sure come to
>> everyone's minds.  But honestly, nobody knows the answers at this
>> point.  We are just starting the discussions internally of how best to
>> take all our new resources, talent, products, etc. and meld them
>> together to give the best customer experience.  For the next 6 months or
>> so, it will be business as usual. After the 6 months, who knows at this
>> point but I can guarantee the customers will benefit from the results.
>> Nobody will be abandoned or taken advantage of, etc.  I'm very impressed
>> with John Blake (CEO of VFO).  I truly believe John is in this for the
>> customer.
>> 
>> Personally, I'm extremely excited with the possibilities.  Think about
>> it, we now have all the best minds in this industry under one roof.
>> Instead of us duplicating resources, we can combine them and inovate.
>> Although Freedom has been our number one competitor since Dan and I
>> started GW Micro in 1990, I've always had great respect for their
>> engineers.  Okay, I've had questions about their corporate leadership, a
>> certain lawsuit comes to mind (smile), but that was a completely
>> different leadership team.  That was a different owner and a different
>> CEO.  Vector has an outstanding reputation.  John Blake has shown great
>> leadership and concern for the customer. Under this new leadership and
>> available resources, I'm ready to take that and do whatever it takes to
>> have the best possible solutions for our customers, for every low vision
>> and blind person out there.
>> 
>> People may be concerned about lack of competition causing innovation and
>> quality to suffer.  Nothing can be further from the truth. There is
>> still plenty of competition out there, including free options but we
>> have the determination and drive, starting at the corporate level all
>> they way down to provide the best quality products, hands down.  Yes,
>> this will take some time to prove but I'm hoping that everyone out there
>> will give us that opportunity. Again, I'm putting everything I have into
>> this venture and I wouldn't do that if I didn't believe in it.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Doug
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Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-14 Thread multi 85 via Talk
Look forward to Mosen spinning it for the FS Cast soon. This is also
bad, because what about the situation where sometimes one screenreader
is good for some situations or works with one program and then you use
another for a different situation? Less screenreaders = could be
problematic.

On 6/14/16, net bat via Talk  wrote:
> wishful thinking.
> look for another job. when aisquared murges with freedom most aisquared
> employees will be fired.
> this happened with both my parents when humble oil bought out signal oil.
> they
> promised all the signal oil employees would be retained.
> that lasted for 6 months then all signal people were fired. they only wanted
>
> humble oil employyees working for them that would remain loyal to the
> company.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Doug Geoffray via Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 9:18 AM
> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> I wanted to chime in here and give my personal thoughts to the bombshell
> released today regarding VFO (the parent company of Freedom Scientific
> and Optelec) acquiring Ai Squared.  And by bombshell, I don't mean a bad
> thing, I just mean it is shocking and unexpected news.
>
> I know this may seem scary to many people.  I know that we have a great
> number of extremely loyal customers who may be feeling betrayed. There
> are lots of legit concerns and questions that I'm sure come to
> everyone's minds.  But honestly, nobody knows the answers at this
> point.  We are just starting the discussions internally of how best to
> take all our new resources, talent, products, etc. and meld them
> together to give the best customer experience.  For the next 6 months or
> so, it will be business as usual. After the 6 months, who knows at this
> point but I can guarantee the customers will benefit from the results.
> Nobody will be abandoned or taken advantage of, etc.  I'm very impressed
> with John Blake (CEO of VFO).  I truly believe John is in this for the
> customer.
>
> Personally, I'm extremely excited with the possibilities.  Think about
> it, we now have all the best minds in this industry under one roof.
> Instead of us duplicating resources, we can combine them and inovate.
> Although Freedom has been our number one competitor since Dan and I
> started GW Micro in 1990, I've always had great respect for their
> engineers.  Okay, I've had questions about their corporate leadership, a
> certain lawsuit comes to mind (smile), but that was a completely
> different leadership team.  That was a different owner and a different
> CEO.  Vector has an outstanding reputation.  John Blake has shown great
> leadership and concern for the customer. Under this new leadership and
> available resources, I'm ready to take that and do whatever it takes to
> have the best possible solutions for our customers, for every low vision
> and blind person out there.
>
> People may be concerned about lack of competition causing innovation and
> quality to suffer.  Nothing can be further from the truth. There is
> still plenty of competition out there, including free options but we
> have the determination and drive, starting at the corporate level all
> they way down to provide the best quality products, hands down.  Yes,
> this will take some time to prove but I'm hoping that everyone out there
> will give us that opportunity. Again, I'm putting everything I have into
> this venture and I wouldn't do that if I didn't believe in it.
>
> Regards,
> Doug
> ___
> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author
>
> and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared.
>
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Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-14 Thread net bat via Talk

wishful thinking.
look for another job. when aisquared murges with freedom most aisquared 
employees will be fired.
this happened with both my parents when humble oil bought out signal oil. they 
promised all the signal oil employees would be retained.
that lasted for 6 months then all signal people were fired. they only wanted 
humble oil employyees working for them that would remain loyal to the company.



-Original Message- 
From: Doug Geoffray via Talk

Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 9:18 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

Hello everyone,

I wanted to chime in here and give my personal thoughts to the bombshell
released today regarding VFO (the parent company of Freedom Scientific
and Optelec) acquiring Ai Squared.  And by bombshell, I don't mean a bad
thing, I just mean it is shocking and unexpected news.

I know this may seem scary to many people.  I know that we have a great
number of extremely loyal customers who may be feeling betrayed. There
are lots of legit concerns and questions that I'm sure come to
everyone's minds.  But honestly, nobody knows the answers at this
point.  We are just starting the discussions internally of how best to
take all our new resources, talent, products, etc. and meld them
together to give the best customer experience.  For the next 6 months or
so, it will be business as usual. After the 6 months, who knows at this
point but I can guarantee the customers will benefit from the results.
Nobody will be abandoned or taken advantage of, etc.  I'm very impressed
with John Blake (CEO of VFO).  I truly believe John is in this for the
customer.

Personally, I'm extremely excited with the possibilities.  Think about
it, we now have all the best minds in this industry under one roof.
Instead of us duplicating resources, we can combine them and inovate.
Although Freedom has been our number one competitor since Dan and I
started GW Micro in 1990, I've always had great respect for their
engineers.  Okay, I've had questions about their corporate leadership, a
certain lawsuit comes to mind (smile), but that was a completely
different leadership team.  That was a different owner and a different
CEO.  Vector has an outstanding reputation.  John Blake has shown great
leadership and concern for the customer. Under this new leadership and
available resources, I'm ready to take that and do whatever it takes to
have the best possible solutions for our customers, for every low vision
and blind person out there.

People may be concerned about lack of competition causing innovation and
quality to suffer.  Nothing can be further from the truth. There is
still plenty of competition out there, including free options but we
have the determination and drive, starting at the corporate level all
they way down to provide the best quality products, hands down.  Yes,
this will take some time to prove but I'm hoping that everyone out there
will give us that opportunity. Again, I'm putting everything I have into
this venture and I wouldn't do that if I didn't believe in it.

Regards,
Doug
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Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-14 Thread Darrell Bowles via Talk
So we should be encouraging this type of behavior?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 14, 2016, at 1:09 PM, Curtis Delzer via Talk 
>  wrote:
> 
> Doug, I believe as many on this list, you had no choice, so it is more
> proffitable to go along than resist, so hey since you, cannot beat em,
> you join em, simple as that.
> Company man! go for it and leave the ideals of those who have spent over
> 30 years now supporting your, company. Now it is a huge agency combined
> with multi-fragmented support to their own agenda, not ours. Money
> drives, we don't thrive, we pay, and continue to pay.
> Let us all support NVDA and pray they don't get absorbed as well.
> They do more than Window-Eyes and JFW concerning many aspects of windows
> ten right now.
> -- 
> Curtis Delzer 
> 
> On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 16:18:46 +
> Doug Geoffray via Talk  wrote:
> 
>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>> I wanted to chime in here and give my personal thoughts to the bombshell 
>> released today regarding VFO (the parent company of Freedom Scientific 
>> and Optelec) acquiring Ai Squared.  And by bombshell, I don't mean a bad 
>> thing, I just mean it is shocking and unexpected news.
>> 
>> I know this may seem scary to many people.  I know that we have a great 
>> number of extremely loyal customers who may be feeling betrayed. There 
>> are lots of legit concerns and questions that I'm sure come to 
>> everyone's minds.  But honestly, nobody knows the answers at this 
>> point.  We are just starting the discussions internally of how best to 
>> take all our new resources, talent, products, etc. and meld them 
>> together to give the best customer experience.  For the next 6 months or 
>> so, it will be business as usual. After the 6 months, who knows at this 
>> point but I can guarantee the customers will benefit from the results.  
>> Nobody will be abandoned or taken advantage of, etc.  I'm very impressed 
>> with John Blake (CEO of VFO).  I truly believe John is in this for the 
>> customer.
>> 
>> Personally, I'm extremely excited with the possibilities.  Think about 
>> it, we now have all the best minds in this industry under one roof.  
>> Instead of us duplicating resources, we can combine them and inovate. 
>> Although Freedom has been our number one competitor since Dan and I 
>> started GW Micro in 1990, I've always had great respect for their 
>> engineers.  Okay, I've had questions about their corporate leadership, a 
>> certain lawsuit comes to mind (smile), but that was a completely 
>> different leadership team.  That was a different owner and a different 
>> CEO.  Vector has an outstanding reputation.  John Blake has shown great 
>> leadership and concern for the customer. Under this new leadership and 
>> available resources, I'm ready to take that and do whatever it takes to 
>> have the best possible solutions for our customers, for every low vision 
>> and blind person out there.
>> 
>> People may be concerned about lack of competition causing innovation and 
>> quality to suffer.  Nothing can be further from the truth. There is 
>> still plenty of competition out there, including free options but we 
>> have the determination and drive, starting at the corporate level all 
>> they way down to provide the best quality products, hands down.  Yes, 
>> this will take some time to prove but I'm hoping that everyone out there 
>> will give us that opportunity. Again, I'm putting everything I have into 
>> this venture and I wouldn't do that if I didn't believe in it.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Doug
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Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-14 Thread Curtis Delzer via Talk
Doug, I believe as many on this list, you had no choice, so it is more
proffitable to go along than resist, so hey since you, cannot beat em,
you join em, simple as that.
Company man! go for it and leave the ideals of those who have spent over
30 years now supporting your, company. Now it is a huge agency combined
with multi-fragmented support to their own agenda, not ours. Money
drives, we don't thrive, we pay, and continue to pay.
Let us all support NVDA and pray they don't get absorbed as well.
They do more than Window-Eyes and JFW concerning many aspects of windows
ten right now.
-- 
Curtis Delzer 

On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 16:18:46 +
Doug Geoffray via Talk  wrote:

> Hello everyone,
> 
> I wanted to chime in here and give my personal thoughts to the bombshell 
> released today regarding VFO (the parent company of Freedom Scientific 
> and Optelec) acquiring Ai Squared.  And by bombshell, I don't mean a bad 
> thing, I just mean it is shocking and unexpected news.
> 
> I know this may seem scary to many people.  I know that we have a great 
> number of extremely loyal customers who may be feeling betrayed. There 
> are lots of legit concerns and questions that I'm sure come to 
> everyone's minds.  But honestly, nobody knows the answers at this 
> point.  We are just starting the discussions internally of how best to 
> take all our new resources, talent, products, etc. and meld them 
> together to give the best customer experience.  For the next 6 months or 
> so, it will be business as usual. After the 6 months, who knows at this 
> point but I can guarantee the customers will benefit from the results.  
> Nobody will be abandoned or taken advantage of, etc.  I'm very impressed 
> with John Blake (CEO of VFO).  I truly believe John is in this for the 
> customer.
> 
> Personally, I'm extremely excited with the possibilities.  Think about 
> it, we now have all the best minds in this industry under one roof.  
> Instead of us duplicating resources, we can combine them and inovate. 
> Although Freedom has been our number one competitor since Dan and I 
> started GW Micro in 1990, I've always had great respect for their 
> engineers.  Okay, I've had questions about their corporate leadership, a 
> certain lawsuit comes to mind (smile), but that was a completely 
> different leadership team.  That was a different owner and a different 
> CEO.  Vector has an outstanding reputation.  John Blake has shown great 
> leadership and concern for the customer. Under this new leadership and 
> available resources, I'm ready to take that and do whatever it takes to 
> have the best possible solutions for our customers, for every low vision 
> and blind person out there.
> 
> People may be concerned about lack of competition causing innovation and 
> quality to suffer.  Nothing can be further from the truth. There is 
> still plenty of competition out there, including free options but we 
> have the determination and drive, starting at the corporate level all 
> they way down to provide the best quality products, hands down.  Yes, 
> this will take some time to prove but I'm hoping that everyone out there 
> will give us that opportunity. Again, I'm putting everything I have into 
> this venture and I wouldn't do that if I didn't believe in it.
> 
> Regards,
> Doug
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RE: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-14 Thread Darrell Bowles via Talk
Nevil Chamberlin said after signing the Munich agreement, "I believe it is
Piece for our time."
Doug, you are saying the same thing. Famous last words.

This is a disaster.

Darrell Bowles
Assistive Technology Trainer
Pelissippi State Community College
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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dgbowles=msn@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Curtis Delzer via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 12:58 PM
To: Doug Geoffray <dgeoff...@aisquared.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

what else but give a company "yes" man mentality, the politically correct
and slumberman idea all is well while the quality goes to shit!

--
Curtis Delzer <curtis1...@verizon.net>

On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 16:18:46 +
Doug Geoffray via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:

> Hello everyone,
> 
> I wanted to chime in here and give my personal thoughts to the 
> bombshell released today regarding VFO (the parent company of Freedom 
> Scientific and Optelec) acquiring Ai Squared.  And by bombshell, I 
> don't mean a bad thing, I just mean it is shocking and unexpected news.
> 
> I know this may seem scary to many people.  I know that we have a 
> great number of extremely loyal customers who may be feeling betrayed. 
> There are lots of legit concerns and questions that I'm sure come to 
> everyone's minds.  But honestly, nobody knows the answers at this 
> point.  We are just starting the discussions internally of how best to 
> take all our new resources, talent, products, etc. and meld them 
> together to give the best customer experience.  For the next 6 months 
> or so, it will be business as usual. After the 6 months, who knows at 
> this point but I can guarantee the customers will benefit from the
results.
> Nobody will be abandoned or taken advantage of, etc.  I'm very 
> impressed with John Blake (CEO of VFO).  I truly believe John is in 
> this for the customer.
> 
> Personally, I'm extremely excited with the possibilities.  Think about 
> it, we now have all the best minds in this industry under one roof.
> Instead of us duplicating resources, we can combine them and inovate. 
> Although Freedom has been our number one competitor since Dan and I 
> started GW Micro in 1990, I've always had great respect for their 
> engineers.  Okay, I've had questions about their corporate leadership, 
> a certain lawsuit comes to mind (smile), but that was a completely 
> different leadership team.  That was a different owner and a different 
> CEO.  Vector has an outstanding reputation.  John Blake has shown 
> great leadership and concern for the customer. Under this new 
> leadership and available resources, I'm ready to take that and do 
> whatever it takes to have the best possible solutions for our 
> customers, for every low vision and blind person out there.
> 
> People may be concerned about lack of competition causing innovation 
> and quality to suffer.  Nothing can be further from the truth. There 
> is still plenty of competition out there, including free options but 
> we have the determination and drive, starting at the corporate level 
> all they way down to provide the best quality products, hands down.  
> Yes, this will take some time to prove but I'm hoping that everyone 
> out there will give us that opportunity. Again, I'm putting everything 
> I have into this venture and I wouldn't do that if I didn't believe in it.
> 
> Regards,
> Doug
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Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-14 Thread Brian Moore via Talk

If he had, I would not be mentioning it on this list.

While this might be true, there are two things.

1. it is far too new to speculate on this.  The product structures, 
pricing changes if any etc have not been established yet.  While my 
personal view is that from a consumer perspective, it has lots of 
potential not to turn out well, that counts for nothing and we don't 
have any facts yet to support an anti-trust speculation.


2.  This is such a small industry, I doubt such a small market share 
company would attract the attention of regulators.


Brian.

On 06/14/2016 12:41 PM, Rick Thomas via Talk wrote:

Hi Doug:
Have you been contacted about anti-trust considerations?
Seems like with only the JAWS company ownership owning both Jaws and
WindowEyes there are not any other major competitiors out there and thus
this combination would be anti-competitive in nature.
I don't know if that applies to the current combination but has it been
bought up in discussions?
Rick USA

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Behalf Of Doug Geoffray via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 12:19 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

Hello everyone,

I wanted to chime in here and give my personal thoughts to the bombshell
released today regarding VFO (the parent company of Freedom Scientific
and Optelec) acquiring Ai Squared.  And by bombshell, I don't mean a bad
thing, I just mean it is shocking and unexpected news.

I know this may seem scary to many people.  I know that we have a great
number of extremely loyal customers who may be feeling betrayed. There
are lots of legit concerns and questions that I'm sure come to
everyone's minds.  But honestly, nobody knows the answers at this
point.  We are just starting the discussions internally of how best to
take all our new resources, talent, products, etc. and meld them
together to give the best customer experience.  For the next 6 months or
so, it will be business as usual. After the 6 months, who knows at this
point but I can guarantee the customers will benefit from the results.
Nobody will be abandoned or taken advantage of, etc.  I'm very impressed
with John Blake (CEO of VFO).  I truly believe John is in this for the
customer.

Personally, I'm extremely excited with the possibilities.  Think about
it, we now have all the best minds in this industry under one roof.
Instead of us duplicating resources, we can combine them and inovate.
Although Freedom has been our number one competitor since Dan and I
started GW Micro in 1990, I've always had great respect for their
engineers.  Okay, I've had questions about their corporate leadership, a
certain lawsuit comes to mind (smile), but that was a completely
different leadership team.  That was a different owner and a different
CEO.  Vector has an outstanding reputation.  John Blake has shown great
leadership and concern for the customer. Under this new leadership and
available resources, I'm ready to take that and do whatever it takes to
have the best possible solutions for our customers, for every low vision
and blind person out there.

People may be concerned about lack of competition causing innovation and
quality to suffer.  Nothing can be further from the truth. There is
still plenty of competition out there, including free options but we
have the determination and drive, starting at the corporate level all
they way down to provide the best quality products, hands down.  Yes,
this will take some time to prove but I'm hoping that everyone out there
will give us that opportunity. Again, I'm putting everything I have into
this venture and I wouldn't do that if I didn't believe in it.

Regards,
Doug
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Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-14 Thread Curtis Delzer via Talk
what else but give a company "yes" man mentality, the politically
correct and slumberman idea all is well while the quality goes to shit!

-- 
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On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 16:18:46 +
Doug Geoffray via Talk  wrote:

> Hello everyone,
> 
> I wanted to chime in here and give my personal thoughts to the bombshell 
> released today regarding VFO (the parent company of Freedom Scientific 
> and Optelec) acquiring Ai Squared.  And by bombshell, I don't mean a bad 
> thing, I just mean it is shocking and unexpected news.
> 
> I know this may seem scary to many people.  I know that we have a great 
> number of extremely loyal customers who may be feeling betrayed. There 
> are lots of legit concerns and questions that I'm sure come to 
> everyone's minds.  But honestly, nobody knows the answers at this 
> point.  We are just starting the discussions internally of how best to 
> take all our new resources, talent, products, etc. and meld them 
> together to give the best customer experience.  For the next 6 months or 
> so, it will be business as usual. After the 6 months, who knows at this 
> point but I can guarantee the customers will benefit from the results.  
> Nobody will be abandoned or taken advantage of, etc.  I'm very impressed 
> with John Blake (CEO of VFO).  I truly believe John is in this for the 
> customer.
> 
> Personally, I'm extremely excited with the possibilities.  Think about 
> it, we now have all the best minds in this industry under one roof.  
> Instead of us duplicating resources, we can combine them and inovate. 
> Although Freedom has been our number one competitor since Dan and I 
> started GW Micro in 1990, I've always had great respect for their 
> engineers.  Okay, I've had questions about their corporate leadership, a 
> certain lawsuit comes to mind (smile), but that was a completely 
> different leadership team.  That was a different owner and a different 
> CEO.  Vector has an outstanding reputation.  John Blake has shown great 
> leadership and concern for the customer. Under this new leadership and 
> available resources, I'm ready to take that and do whatever it takes to 
> have the best possible solutions for our customers, for every low vision 
> and blind person out there.
> 
> People may be concerned about lack of competition causing innovation and 
> quality to suffer.  Nothing can be further from the truth. There is 
> still plenty of competition out there, including free options but we 
> have the determination and drive, starting at the corporate level all 
> they way down to provide the best quality products, hands down.  Yes, 
> this will take some time to prove but I'm hoping that everyone out there 
> will give us that opportunity. Again, I'm putting everything I have into 
> this venture and I wouldn't do that if I didn't believe in it.
> 
> Regards,
> Doug
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Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-14 Thread multi 85 via Talk
There's always Dolphin and System Access. I must say that JAWS hasn't
innovated excitingly with the last few versions. I wonder if the
screenreaders merge, what happens, since GW Micro is free and the
other one isn't. Does free option go? Interesting, but thank God for
the other groups, i.e Dolphin, NVDA, SA, Baum.

On 6/14/16, Darrell Bowles via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:
> Yes, because I have  heard this all before.  Oh, when Gwmicro was bought by
> Ai-squared?  No one will be abandoned or taken advantage of,  that's
> smooth,
> but in the views of the majority of us, not truthful.
>
> Darrell Bowles
> Assistive Technology Trainer
> Pelissippi State Community College
> 8656613917
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dgbowles=msn@lists.window-eyes.com] On
> Behalf Of Reeva Webb via Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 12:25 PM
> To: Doug Geoffray <dgeoff...@aisquared.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
> Subject: Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared
>
> "nobody will be abandoned or taken advantage of" I respect you a lot and
> it's great that your optimistic about this, as far as I'm concerned
> lollollollollollollol I'll believe it when I see it.
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, June 14, 2016, Doug Geoffray via Talk <
> talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> I wanted to chime in here and give my personal thoughts to the
>> bombshell released today regarding VFO (the parent company of Freedom
>> Scientific and Optelec) acquiring Ai Squared.  And by bombshell, I
>> don't mean a bad thing, I just mean it is shocking and unexpected news.
>>
>> I know this may seem scary to many people.  I know that we have a
>> great number of extremely loyal customers who may be feeling betrayed.
>> There are lots of legit concerns and questions that I'm sure come to
>> everyone's minds.  But honestly, nobody knows the answers at this
>> point.  We are just starting the discussions internally of how best to
>> take all our new resources, talent, products, etc. and meld them
>> together to give the best customer experience.  For the next 6 months
>> or so, it will be business as usual. After the 6 months, who knows at
>> this point but I can guarantee the customers will benefit from the
> results.
>> Nobody will be abandoned or taken advantage of, etc.  I'm very
>> impressed with John Blake (CEO of VFO).  I truly believe John is in
>> this for the customer.
>>
>> Personally, I'm extremely excited with the possibilities.  Think about
>> it, we now have all the best minds in this industry under one roof.
>> Instead of us duplicating resources, we can combine them and inovate.
>> Although Freedom has been our number one competitor since Dan and I
>> started GW Micro in 1990, I've always had great respect for their
>> engineers.  Okay, I've had questions about their corporate leadership,
>> a certain lawsuit comes to mind (smile), but that was a completely
>> different leadership team.  That was a different owner and a different
>> CEO.  Vector has an outstanding reputation.  John Blake has shown
>> great leadership and concern for the customer. Under this new
>> leadership and available resources, I'm ready to take that and do
>> whatever it takes to have the best possible solutions for our
>> customers, for every low vision and blind person out there.
>>
>> People may be concerned about lack of competition causing innovation
>> and quality to suffer.  Nothing can be further from the truth. There
>> is still plenty of competition out there, including free options but
>> we have the determination and drive, starting at the corporate level
>> all they way down to provide the best quality products, hands down.
>> Yes, this will take some time to prove but I'm hoping that everyone
>> out there will give us that opportunity. Again, I'm putting everything
>> I have into this venture and I wouldn't do that if I didn't believe in
>> it.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Doug
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>> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared.
>>
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RE: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-14 Thread Darrell Bowles via Talk
It has antitrust lawsuit written all over it.

Darrell Bowles
Assistive Technology Trainer
Pelissippi State Community College
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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dgbowles=msn@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Rick Thomas via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 12:41 PM
To: 'Doug Geoffray' <dgeoff...@aisquared.com>; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: RE: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

Hi Doug:
Have you been contacted about anti-trust considerations?
Seems like with only the JAWS company ownership owning both Jaws and
WindowEyes there are not any other major competitiors out there and thus
this combination would be anti-competitive in nature.
I don't know if that applies to the current combination but has it been
bought up in discussions?
Rick USA

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+ofbgmail=mi.rr@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Doug Geoffray via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 12:19 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

Hello everyone,

I wanted to chime in here and give my personal thoughts to the bombshell
released today regarding VFO (the parent company of Freedom Scientific and
Optelec) acquiring Ai Squared.  And by bombshell, I don't mean a bad thing,
I just mean it is shocking and unexpected news.

I know this may seem scary to many people.  I know that we have a great
number of extremely loyal customers who may be feeling betrayed. There are
lots of legit concerns and questions that I'm sure come to everyone's minds.
But honestly, nobody knows the answers at this point.  We are just starting
the discussions internally of how best to take all our new resources,
talent, products, etc. and meld them together to give the best customer
experience.  For the next 6 months or so, it will be business as usual.
After the 6 months, who knows at this point but I can guarantee the
customers will benefit from the results.  
Nobody will be abandoned or taken advantage of, etc.  I'm very impressed
with John Blake (CEO of VFO).  I truly believe John is in this for the
customer.

Personally, I'm extremely excited with the possibilities.  Think about it,
we now have all the best minds in this industry under one roof.  
Instead of us duplicating resources, we can combine them and inovate. 
Although Freedom has been our number one competitor since Dan and I started
GW Micro in 1990, I've always had great respect for their engineers.  Okay,
I've had questions about their corporate leadership, a certain lawsuit comes
to mind (smile), but that was a completely different leadership team.  That
was a different owner and a different CEO.  Vector has an outstanding
reputation.  John Blake has shown great leadership and concern for the
customer. Under this new leadership and available resources, I'm ready to
take that and do whatever it takes to have the best possible solutions for
our customers, for every low vision and blind person out there.

People may be concerned about lack of competition causing innovation and
quality to suffer.  Nothing can be further from the truth. There is still
plenty of competition out there, including free options but we have the
determination and drive, starting at the corporate level all they way down
to provide the best quality products, hands down.  Yes, this will take some
time to prove but I'm hoping that everyone out there will give us that
opportunity. Again, I'm putting everything I have into this venture and I
wouldn't do that if I didn't believe in it.

Regards,
Doug
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RE: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-14 Thread Darrell Bowles via Talk
A free version of JAWS? DO you always listen to what your told?

Darrell Bowles
Assistive Technology Trainer
Pelissippi State Community College
8656613917




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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dgbowles=msn@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of RJ Sandefur via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 12:41 PM
To: Doug Geoffray <dgeoff...@aisquared.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

So does this mean window eyes for office will go away? Does this mean their
might be a free version of jaws for windows? This sounds exciting! RJ


On 6/14/2016 12:18 PM, Doug Geoffray via Talk wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> I wanted to chime in here and give my personal thoughts to the bombshell
> released today regarding VFO (the parent company of Freedom Scientific
> and Optelec) acquiring Ai Squared.  And by bombshell, I don't mean a bad
> thing, I just mean it is shocking and unexpected news.
>
> I know this may seem scary to many people.  I know that we have a great
> number of extremely loyal customers who may be feeling betrayed. There
> are lots of legit concerns and questions that I'm sure come to
> everyone's minds.  But honestly, nobody knows the answers at this
> point.  We are just starting the discussions internally of how best to
> take all our new resources, talent, products, etc. and meld them
> together to give the best customer experience.  For the next 6 months or
> so, it will be business as usual. After the 6 months, who knows at this
> point but I can guarantee the customers will benefit from the results.
> Nobody will be abandoned or taken advantage of, etc.  I'm very impressed
> with John Blake (CEO of VFO).  I truly believe John is in this for the
> customer.
>
> Personally, I'm extremely excited with the possibilities.  Think about
> it, we now have all the best minds in this industry under one roof.
> Instead of us duplicating resources, we can combine them and inovate.
> Although Freedom has been our number one competitor since Dan and I
> started GW Micro in 1990, I've always had great respect for their
> engineers.  Okay, I've had questions about their corporate leadership, a
> certain lawsuit comes to mind (smile), but that was a completely
> different leadership team.  That was a different owner and a different
> CEO.  Vector has an outstanding reputation.  John Blake has shown great
> leadership and concern for the customer. Under this new leadership and
> available resources, I'm ready to take that and do whatever it takes to
> have the best possible solutions for our customers, for every low vision
> and blind person out there.
>
> People may be concerned about lack of competition causing innovation and
> quality to suffer.  Nothing can be further from the truth. There is
> still plenty of competition out there, including free options but we
> have the determination and drive, starting at the corporate level all
> they way down to provide the best quality products, hands down.  Yes,
> this will take some time to prove but I'm hoping that everyone out there
> will give us that opportunity. Again, I'm putting everything I have into
> this venture and I wouldn't do that if I didn't believe in it.
>
> Regards,
> Doug
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RE: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-14 Thread Rick Thomas via Talk
Hi Doug:
Have you been contacted about anti-trust considerations?
Seems like with only the JAWS company ownership owning both Jaws and
WindowEyes there are not any other major competitiors out there and thus
this combination would be anti-competitive in nature.
I don't know if that applies to the current combination but has it been
bought up in discussions?
Rick USA

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+ofbgmail=mi.rr@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Doug Geoffray via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 12:19 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

Hello everyone,

I wanted to chime in here and give my personal thoughts to the bombshell 
released today regarding VFO (the parent company of Freedom Scientific 
and Optelec) acquiring Ai Squared.  And by bombshell, I don't mean a bad 
thing, I just mean it is shocking and unexpected news.

I know this may seem scary to many people.  I know that we have a great 
number of extremely loyal customers who may be feeling betrayed. There 
are lots of legit concerns and questions that I'm sure come to 
everyone's minds.  But honestly, nobody knows the answers at this 
point.  We are just starting the discussions internally of how best to 
take all our new resources, talent, products, etc. and meld them 
together to give the best customer experience.  For the next 6 months or 
so, it will be business as usual. After the 6 months, who knows at this 
point but I can guarantee the customers will benefit from the results.  
Nobody will be abandoned or taken advantage of, etc.  I'm very impressed 
with John Blake (CEO of VFO).  I truly believe John is in this for the 
customer.

Personally, I'm extremely excited with the possibilities.  Think about 
it, we now have all the best minds in this industry under one roof.  
Instead of us duplicating resources, we can combine them and inovate. 
Although Freedom has been our number one competitor since Dan and I 
started GW Micro in 1990, I've always had great respect for their 
engineers.  Okay, I've had questions about their corporate leadership, a 
certain lawsuit comes to mind (smile), but that was a completely 
different leadership team.  That was a different owner and a different 
CEO.  Vector has an outstanding reputation.  John Blake has shown great 
leadership and concern for the customer. Under this new leadership and 
available resources, I'm ready to take that and do whatever it takes to 
have the best possible solutions for our customers, for every low vision 
and blind person out there.

People may be concerned about lack of competition causing innovation and 
quality to suffer.  Nothing can be further from the truth. There is 
still plenty of competition out there, including free options but we 
have the determination and drive, starting at the corporate level all 
they way down to provide the best quality products, hands down.  Yes, 
this will take some time to prove but I'm hoping that everyone out there 
will give us that opportunity. Again, I'm putting everything I have into 
this venture and I wouldn't do that if I didn't believe in it.

Regards,
Doug
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RE: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-14 Thread Darrell Bowles via Talk
Yes, because I have  heard this all before.  Oh, when Gwmicro was bought by
Ai-squared?  No one will be abandoned or taken advantage of,  that's smooth,
but in the views of the majority of us, not truthful.

Darrell Bowles
Assistive Technology Trainer
Pelissippi State Community College
8656613917




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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dgbowles=msn@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Reeva Webb via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 12:25 PM
To: Doug Geoffray <dgeoff...@aisquared.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

"nobody will be abandoned or taken advantage of" I respect you a lot and
it's great that your optimistic about this, as far as I'm concerned
lollollollollollollol I'll believe it when I see it.



On Tuesday, June 14, 2016, Doug Geoffray via Talk <
talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> I wanted to chime in here and give my personal thoughts to the 
> bombshell released today regarding VFO (the parent company of Freedom 
> Scientific and Optelec) acquiring Ai Squared.  And by bombshell, I 
> don't mean a bad thing, I just mean it is shocking and unexpected news.
>
> I know this may seem scary to many people.  I know that we have a 
> great number of extremely loyal customers who may be feeling betrayed. 
> There are lots of legit concerns and questions that I'm sure come to 
> everyone's minds.  But honestly, nobody knows the answers at this 
> point.  We are just starting the discussions internally of how best to 
> take all our new resources, talent, products, etc. and meld them 
> together to give the best customer experience.  For the next 6 months 
> or so, it will be business as usual. After the 6 months, who knows at 
> this point but I can guarantee the customers will benefit from the
results.
> Nobody will be abandoned or taken advantage of, etc.  I'm very 
> impressed with John Blake (CEO of VFO).  I truly believe John is in 
> this for the customer.
>
> Personally, I'm extremely excited with the possibilities.  Think about 
> it, we now have all the best minds in this industry under one roof.
> Instead of us duplicating resources, we can combine them and inovate.
> Although Freedom has been our number one competitor since Dan and I 
> started GW Micro in 1990, I've always had great respect for their 
> engineers.  Okay, I've had questions about their corporate leadership, 
> a certain lawsuit comes to mind (smile), but that was a completely 
> different leadership team.  That was a different owner and a different 
> CEO.  Vector has an outstanding reputation.  John Blake has shown 
> great leadership and concern for the customer. Under this new 
> leadership and available resources, I'm ready to take that and do 
> whatever it takes to have the best possible solutions for our 
> customers, for every low vision and blind person out there.
>
> People may be concerned about lack of competition causing innovation 
> and quality to suffer.  Nothing can be further from the truth. There 
> is still plenty of competition out there, including free options but 
> we have the determination and drive, starting at the corporate level 
> all they way down to provide the best quality products, hands down.  
> Yes, this will take some time to prove but I'm hoping that everyone 
> out there will give us that opportunity. Again, I'm putting everything 
> I have into this venture and I wouldn't do that if I didn't believe in it.
>
> Regards,
> Doug
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RE: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-14 Thread george basioli via Talk
Well dug it already cost a bank for some of these products, and now who is
to stop the; new group from even raising the prices higher???

Like I posted earlier monopley!!!

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+gbmagoo=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Doug Geoffray via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 09:19
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

Hello everyone,

I wanted to chime in here and give my personal thoughts to the bombshell
released today regarding VFO (the parent company of Freedom Scientific and
Optelec) acquiring Ai Squared.  And by bombshell, I don't mean a bad thing,
I just mean it is shocking and unexpected news.

I know this may seem scary to many people.  I know that we have a great
number of extremely loyal customers who may be feeling betrayed. There are
lots of legit concerns and questions that I'm sure come to everyone's minds.
But honestly, nobody knows the answers at this point.  We are just starting
the discussions internally of how best to take all our new resources,
talent, products, etc. and meld them together to give the best customer
experience.  For the next 6 months or so, it will be business as usual.
After the 6 months, who knows at this point but I can guarantee the
customers will benefit from the results.  
Nobody will be abandoned or taken advantage of, etc.  I'm very impressed
with John Blake (CEO of VFO).  I truly believe John is in this for the
customer.

Personally, I'm extremely excited with the possibilities.  Think about it,
we now have all the best minds in this industry under one roof.  
Instead of us duplicating resources, we can combine them and inovate. 
Although Freedom has been our number one competitor since Dan and I started
GW Micro in 1990, I've always had great respect for their engineers.  Okay,
I've had questions about their corporate leadership, a certain lawsuit comes
to mind (smile), but that was a completely different leadership team.  That
was a different owner and a different CEO.  Vector has an outstanding
reputation.  John Blake has shown great leadership and concern for the
customer. Under this new leadership and available resources, I'm ready to
take that and do whatever it takes to have the best possible solutions for
our customers, for every low vision and blind person out there.

People may be concerned about lack of competition causing innovation and
quality to suffer.  Nothing can be further from the truth. There is still
plenty of competition out there, including free options but we have the
determination and drive, starting at the corporate level all they way down
to provide the best quality products, hands down.  Yes, this will take some
time to prove but I'm hoping that everyone out there will give us that
opportunity. Again, I'm putting everything I have into this venture and I
wouldn't do that if I didn't believe in it.

Regards,
Doug
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Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-14 Thread Reeva Webb via Talk
"nobody will be abandoned or taken advantage of" I respect you a lot and
it's great that your optimistic about this, as far as I'm concerned
lollollollollollollol I'll believe it when I see it.



On Tuesday, June 14, 2016, Doug Geoffray via Talk <
talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> I wanted to chime in here and give my personal thoughts to the bombshell
> released today regarding VFO (the parent company of Freedom Scientific
> and Optelec) acquiring Ai Squared.  And by bombshell, I don't mean a bad
> thing, I just mean it is shocking and unexpected news.
>
> I know this may seem scary to many people.  I know that we have a great
> number of extremely loyal customers who may be feeling betrayed. There
> are lots of legit concerns and questions that I'm sure come to
> everyone's minds.  But honestly, nobody knows the answers at this
> point.  We are just starting the discussions internally of how best to
> take all our new resources, talent, products, etc. and meld them
> together to give the best customer experience.  For the next 6 months or
> so, it will be business as usual. After the 6 months, who knows at this
> point but I can guarantee the customers will benefit from the results.
> Nobody will be abandoned or taken advantage of, etc.  I'm very impressed
> with John Blake (CEO of VFO).  I truly believe John is in this for the
> customer.
>
> Personally, I'm extremely excited with the possibilities.  Think about
> it, we now have all the best minds in this industry under one roof.
> Instead of us duplicating resources, we can combine them and inovate.
> Although Freedom has been our number one competitor since Dan and I
> started GW Micro in 1990, I've always had great respect for their
> engineers.  Okay, I've had questions about their corporate leadership, a
> certain lawsuit comes to mind (smile), but that was a completely
> different leadership team.  That was a different owner and a different
> CEO.  Vector has an outstanding reputation.  John Blake has shown great
> leadership and concern for the customer. Under this new leadership and
> available resources, I'm ready to take that and do whatever it takes to
> have the best possible solutions for our customers, for every low vision
> and blind person out there.
>
> People may be concerned about lack of competition causing innovation and
> quality to suffer.  Nothing can be further from the truth. There is
> still plenty of competition out there, including free options but we
> have the determination and drive, starting at the corporate level all
> they way down to provide the best quality products, hands down.  Yes,
> this will take some time to prove but I'm hoping that everyone out there
> will give us that opportunity. Again, I'm putting everything I have into
> this venture and I wouldn't do that if I didn't believe in it.
>
> Regards,
> Doug
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RE: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-14 Thread Darrell Bowles via Talk
With all due respect, Why should we believe it?  It's like the Jeff Jones of
the  AT industry.  I've watched JAWS decline  in innovation, Which is why I
went to windoweyes and NVDA and system access.  This was a chance for
everyone to break away from JAWS, and now it seems to me that that is all
we're going to be left with. Again, it's the Munich agreement, and no matter
what is said here, it doesn't change the fact that we the customer are sold
out.   

Darrell Bowles
Assistive Technology Trainer
Pelissippi State Community College
8656613917




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Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 12:19 PM
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Subject: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

Hello everyone,

I wanted to chime in here and give my personal thoughts to the bombshell
released today regarding VFO (the parent company of Freedom Scientific and
Optelec) acquiring Ai Squared.  And by bombshell, I don't mean a bad thing,
I just mean it is shocking and unexpected news.

I know this may seem scary to many people.  I know that we have a great
number of extremely loyal customers who may be feeling betrayed. There are
lots of legit concerns and questions that I'm sure come to everyone's minds.
But honestly, nobody knows the answers at this point.  We are just starting
the discussions internally of how best to take all our new resources,
talent, products, etc. and meld them together to give the best customer
experience.  For the next 6 months or so, it will be business as usual.
After the 6 months, who knows at this point but I can guarantee the
customers will benefit from the results.  
Nobody will be abandoned or taken advantage of, etc.  I'm very impressed
with John Blake (CEO of VFO).  I truly believe John is in this for the
customer.

Personally, I'm extremely excited with the possibilities.  Think about it,
we now have all the best minds in this industry under one roof.  
Instead of us duplicating resources, we can combine them and inovate. 
Although Freedom has been our number one competitor since Dan and I started
GW Micro in 1990, I've always had great respect for their engineers.  Okay,
I've had questions about their corporate leadership, a certain lawsuit comes
to mind (smile), but that was a completely different leadership team.  That
was a different owner and a different CEO.  Vector has an outstanding
reputation.  John Blake has shown great leadership and concern for the
customer. Under this new leadership and available resources, I'm ready to
take that and do whatever it takes to have the best possible solutions for
our customers, for every low vision and blind person out there.

People may be concerned about lack of competition causing innovation and
quality to suffer.  Nothing can be further from the truth. There is still
plenty of competition out there, including free options but we have the
determination and drive, starting at the corporate level all they way down
to provide the best quality products, hands down.  Yes, this will take some
time to prove but I'm hoping that everyone out there will give us that
opportunity. Again, I'm putting everything I have into this venture and I
wouldn't do that if I didn't believe in it.

Regards,
Doug
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