Re: Attn. GWMicro Staff - Disappointed in WE 9.2

[Pamela Dominguez via Talk]

The point of my message was that computers without numlock keys were brought 
up, and it somehow got changed to computers not having number pads at all. 
I think when I first heard of ones without numlocks from the lates dell 
domputers, they had a number pad, but the number pad did not have a numlock 
on it.  Pam.


-Original Message- 
From: net bat via Talk

Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 3:48 PM
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Subject: Re: Attn. GWMicro Staff - Disappointed in WE 9.2

i don't know if this would work. but some bloggers say you can turn the numb
lock on by opening the ease of access and useing the on screen keyboard to 
turn
it off.  some bios have a option to have the numlock key on or off on boot 
up.
since i don't have anyone here to look in my bios settings i couldn't tell 
you

if this is true.

-Original Message- 
From: Pamela Dominguez via Talk

Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 12:27 PM
To: Robert Ringwald ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Attn. GWMicro Staff - Disappointed in WE 9.2

But it has to be a numberpad with a numlock.  From what I understand, some
people have computers with numberpads that don't have a numlock.  Pam.

-Original Message- 
From: Robert Ringwald via Talk

Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2015 2:58 PM
To: tchild ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Attn. GWMicro Staff - Disappointed in WE 9.2

tchild wrote:

H!, I have a Del with Windows 8 and the numlock key is present and
works. I am going to be ordering a new PC on Monday from Del. Does anyone
know of anything I need to tell the sales people since I use Window eyes?


I would imagine just make sure your new Del has a num pad. Otherwise you'll
have to use an external num pad.

I know in the past, I have not had a lot of luck with keeping external num
pads working correctly. So I always get a computer with a num pad built in.
It might make the lap top a little larger but it is worth it.

-Bob Ringwald

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Re: Attn. GWMicro Staff - Disappointed in WE 9.2

[Pamela Dominguez via Talk]

But it has to be a numberpad with a numlock.  From what I understand, some 
people have computers with numberpads that don't have a numlock.  Pam.


-Original Message- 
From: Robert Ringwald via Talk

Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2015 2:58 PM
To: tchild ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Attn. GWMicro Staff - Disappointed in WE 9.2

tchild wrote:

H!, I have a Del with Windows 8 and the numlock key is present and
works. I am going to be ordering a new PC on Monday from Del. Does anyone
know of anything I need to tell the sales people since I use Window eyes?


I would imagine just make sure your new Del has a num pad. Otherwise you'll
have to use an external num pad.

I know in the past, I have not had a lot of luck with keeping external num
pads working correctly. So I always get a computer with a num pad built in.
It might make the lap top a little larger but it is worth it.

-Bob Ringwald

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Re: Attn. GWMicro Staff - Disappointed in WE 9.2

[net bat via Talk]

i don't know if this would work. but some bloggers say you can turn the numb 
lock on by opening the ease of access and useing the on screen keyboard to turn 
it off.  some bios have a option to have the numlock key on or off on boot up. 
since i don't have anyone here to look in my bios settings i couldn't tell you 
if this is true.


-Original Message- 
From: Pamela Dominguez via Talk

Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 12:27 PM
To: Robert Ringwald ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Attn. GWMicro Staff - Disappointed in WE 9.2

But it has to be a numberpad with a numlock.  From what I understand, some
people have computers with numberpads that don't have a numlock.  Pam.

-Original Message- 
From: Robert Ringwald via Talk

Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2015 2:58 PM
To: tchild ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Attn. GWMicro Staff - Disappointed in WE 9.2

tchild wrote:

H!, I have a Del with Windows 8 and the numlock key is present and
works. I am going to be ordering a new PC on Monday from Del. Does anyone
know of anything I need to tell the sales people since I use Window eyes?


I would imagine just make sure your new Del has a num pad. Otherwise you'll
have to use an external num pad.

I know in the past, I have not had a lot of luck with keeping external num
pads working correctly. So I always get a computer with a num pad built in.
It might make the lap top a little larger but it is worth it.

-Bob Ringwald

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Re: Attn. GWMicro Staff - Disappointed in WE 9.2

[tchild via Talk]

Yes, the one I got had a numpad but no numlock.. They did send me another 
one although.


-Original Message- 
From: Pamela Dominguez via Talk

Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2015 2:27 PM
To: Robert Ringwald ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Attn. GWMicro Staff - Disappointed in WE 9.2

But it has to be a numberpad with a numlock.  From what I understand, some
people have computers with numberpads that don't have a numlock.  Pam.

-Original Message- 
From: Robert Ringwald via Talk

Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2015 2:58 PM
To: tchild ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Attn. GWMicro Staff - Disappointed in WE 9.2

tchild wrote:

H!, I have a Del with Windows 8 and the numlock key is present and
works. I am going to be ordering a new PC on Monday from Del. Does anyone
know of anything I need to tell the sales people since I use Window eyes?


I would imagine just make sure your new Del has a num pad. Otherwise you'll
have to use an external num pad.

I know in the past, I have not had a lot of luck with keeping external num
pads working correctly. So I always get a computer with a num pad built in.
It might make the lap top a little larger but it is worth it.

-Bob Ringwald

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Re: Attn. GWMicro Staff - Disappointed in WE 9.2

[tchild via Talk]

H!, I have a Del with Windows 8 and the numlock key is present and 
works. I am going to be ordering a new PC on Monday from Del. Does anyone 
know of anything I need to tell the sales people since I use Window eyes?


-Original Message- 
From: Nick Sarames via Talk

Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2015 1:08 PM
To: Lloyd Rasmussen ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Attn. GWMicro Staff - Disappointed in WE 9.2

I actually have a Del, where the numlock can not be turned off.

On 12/5/2015 1:59 PM, Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk wrote:
It works in some programs, but not in others, because of the way 
information is being put on the screen by newer software. Of course, your 
Numlock must also be turned off.

73,


Lloyd Rasmussen, W3IUU, Kensington, MD
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-Original Message- From: Robert Ringwald via Talk
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2015 12:28 PM
To: Talk
Subject: Attn. GWMicro Staff - Disappointed in WE 9.2

It used to be, in some editions of Window-Eyes that the number pad worked 
as a mouse. This no longer is the case. Why?



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Re: Attn. GWMicro Staff - Disappointed in WE 9.2

[net bat via Talk]

if useing firefox it will stay in the sys tray. and i have this with windows 7 
and 10.

the num pad will not move the mouse out of the sys tray.
i've tried all modes for mouse movement. and with firefox they do not work.
full screen,focus window, user window etc. does nothing with firefox.

-Original Message- 
From: Jonathan C. Cohn via Talk

Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2015 10:04 AM
To: Robert Ringwald ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Attn. GWMicro Staff - Disappointed in WE 9.2

It might be that you are using the WindowEyes cursor instead of the mouse 
cursor. Try clicking the minus sign on the numeric keypad and see if that makes 
a difference Also, I understand that Windows 8 and Windows 10 make it harder to 
implement the mouse cursor functionality as part of increasing security and 
efficiency..

Best wishes,

Jonathan



On Dec 5, 2015, at 12:28, Robert Ringwald via Talk 
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:


It used to be, in some editions of Window-Eyes that the number pad worked as 
a mouse. This no longer is the case. Why?



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Fulton Street Jazz Band (Dixieland/Swing)
916/ 806-9551
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Re: Attn. GWMicro Staff - Disappointed in WE 9.2

[Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk]

It works in some programs, but not in others, because of the way information 
is being put on the screen by newer software. Of course, your Numlock must 
also be turned off.

73,


Lloyd Rasmussen, W3IUU, Kensington, MD
http://lras.home.sprynet.com
-Original Message- 
From: Robert Ringwald via Talk

Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2015 12:28 PM
To: Talk
Subject: Attn. GWMicro Staff - Disappointed in WE 9.2

It used to be, in some editions of Window-Eyes that the number pad worked as 
a mouse. This no longer is the case. Why?



Bob Ringwald piano, Solo, Duo, Trio, Quartet, Quintet
Fulton Street Jazz Band (Dixieland/Swing)
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Amateur (ham) Radio Station K6YBV

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Re: Attn. GWMicro Staff - Disappointed in WE 9.2

[Nick Sarames via Talk]

I actually have a Del, where the numlock can not be turned off.

On 12/5/2015 1:59 PM, Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk wrote:
It works in some programs, but not in others, because of the way 
information is being put on the screen by newer software. Of course, 
your Numlock must also be turned off.

73,


Lloyd Rasmussen, W3IUU, Kensington, MD
http://lras.home.sprynet.com
-Original Message- From: Robert Ringwald via Talk
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2015 12:28 PM
To: Talk
Subject: Attn. GWMicro Staff - Disappointed in WE 9.2

It used to be, in some editions of Window-Eyes that the number pad 
worked as a mouse. This no longer is the case. Why?



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Amateur (ham) Radio Station K6YBV

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Re: Attn. GWMicro Staff - Disappointed in WE 9.2

[Jonathan C. Cohn via Talk]

It might be that you are using the WindowEyes cursor instead of the mouse 
cursor. Try clicking the minus sign on the numeric keypad and see if that makes 
a difference Also, I understand that Windows 8 and Windows 10 make it harder to 
implement the mouse cursor functionality as part of increasing security and 
efficiency..
Best wishes,

Jonathan



> On Dec 5, 2015, at 12:28, Robert Ringwald via Talk 
>  wrote:
> 
> It used to be, in some editions of Window-Eyes that the number pad worked as 
> a mouse. This no longer is the case. Why?
> 
> 
> Bob Ringwald piano, Solo, Duo, Trio, Quartet, Quintet 
> Fulton Street Jazz Band (Dixieland/Swing)
> 916/ 806-9551
> Amateur (ham) Radio Station K6YBV
> 
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> who do." -Isaac Asimov
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Re: Attn. GWMicro Staff - Disappointed in WE 9.2

[net bat via Talk]

it does not work with firefox, but still does with i e 11
with firefox the mouse pointer stays in the sys tray when you try to move it 
with the number pad.



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Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2015 9:28 AM
To: Talk
Subject: Attn. GWMicro Staff - Disappointed in WE 9.2

It used to be, in some editions of Window-Eyes that the number pad worked as a 
mouse. This no longer is the case. Why?



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Re: Attn. GWMicro Staff - Disappointed in WE 9.2

[Robert Ringwald via Talk]

tchild wrote:

H!, I have a Del with Windows 8 and the numlock key is present and
works. I am going to be ordering a new PC on Monday from Del. Does anyone
know of anything I need to tell the sales people since I use Window eyes?


I would imagine just make sure your new Del has a num pad. Otherwise you'll 
have to use an external num pad.


I know in the past, I have not had a lot of luck with keeping external num 
pads working correctly. So I always get a computer with a num pad built in. 
It might make the lap top a little larger but it is worth it.


-Bob Ringwald

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Re: Attn. GWMicro Staff - Disappointed in WE 9.2

[manny via Talk]

Hi,
I can still use my mouse with the numpad in firefox version 30.0

Good Luck, Manny please help me reach a million clicks by forwarding my 
stand-up comedy performance to your friends, or Tweet or Facebook it. ** 
** ** ** ** **http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75fbevlz10g ** ** ** ** ** 
computer specifications: Window Eyes 9.2, Dell xps420 Windows 7 home 
premium, with dual boot to windows 10, with 8 gb RAM, Intel q6600 quad 
core drivers and software updated automatically with Ninite and Driver 
Booster, which sighted assistance is needed, but other than that Driver 
Booster is a great program. Recommended software: Firefox, Thunderbird, 
Google Chrome, Winamp, Fritz 12, Chessbase 11, MS Office 2010 security: 
Microsoft security essential, Malware Bytes pro, Win Patrol, Roboform, 
Maintenance: C-cleaner, Ultra Defrag

On 12/5/2015 8:10 AM, net bat via Talk wrote:
if useing firefox it will stay in the sys tray. and i have this with 
windows 7 and 10.

the num pad will not move the mouse out of the sys tray.
i've tried all modes for mouse movement. and with firefox they do not 
work.

full screen,focus window, user window etc. does nothing with firefox.

-Original Message- From: Jonathan C. Cohn via Talk
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2015 10:04 AM
To: Robert Ringwald ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Attn. GWMicro Staff - Disappointed in WE 9.2

It might be that you are using the WindowEyes cursor instead of the 
mouse cursor. Try clicking the minus sign on the numeric keypad and 
see if that makes a difference Also, I understand that Windows 8 and 
Windows 10 make it harder to implement the mouse cursor functionality 
as part of increasing security and efficiency..

Best wishes,

Jonathan



On Dec 5, 2015, at 12:28, Robert Ringwald via Talk 
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:


It used to be, in some editions of Window-Eyes that the number pad 
worked as a mouse. This no longer is the case. Why?



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Re: Attn. GWMicro Staff - Disappointed in WE 9.2

[Singing Sparrow via Talk]

strange here the mouse cursor seems to move when using it in fire fox.

On 12/5/2015 12:10 PM, net bat via Talk wrote:
if useing firefox it will stay in the sys tray. and i have this with 
windows 7 and 10.

the num pad will not move the mouse out of the sys tray.
i've tried all modes for mouse movement. and with firefox they do not 
work.

full screen,focus window, user window etc. does nothing with firefox.

-Original Message- From: Jonathan C. Cohn via Talk
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2015 10:04 AM
To: Robert Ringwald ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Attn. GWMicro Staff - Disappointed in WE 9.2

It might be that you are using the WindowEyes cursor instead of the 
mouse cursor. Try clicking the minus sign on the numeric keypad and 
see if that makes a difference Also, I understand that Windows 8 and 
Windows 10 make it harder to implement the mouse cursor functionality 
as part of increasing security and efficiency..

Best wishes,

Jonathan



On Dec 5, 2015, at 12:28, Robert Ringwald via Talk 
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:


It used to be, in some editions of Window-Eyes that the number pad 
worked as a mouse. This no longer is the case. Why?



Bob Ringwald piano, Solo, Duo, Trio, Quartet, Quintet
Fulton Street Jazz Band (Dixieland/Swing)
916/ 806-9551
Amateur (ham) Radio Station K6YBV

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Re: Attn. GWMicro Staff - Disappointed in WE 9.2

[Robert Ringwald via Talk]

Nick Sarames wrote:

I actually have a Del, where the numlock can not be turned off.


I have a Del lap top which has a num pad on it. So I can turn it off. In 
order for you to turn it off, you will have to get an external num pad.


-Bob Ringwald


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Re: Attn. GWMicro Staff - Disappointed in WE 9.2

[net bat via Talk]

that depends on weather you are useing the consumer or extended support 
version. grin
i can use version 38 for a full year from its release and still get all the 
security patches without haveing to fight the upgrades every 6 weeks.


-Original Message- 
From: Kevin Barry via Talk

Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2015 5:45 PM
To: manny ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Attn. GWMicro Staff - Disappointed in WE 9.2

It is not the fault of gw. Software makers have removed this ability in
some programs. As for using an old version of firefox; you are taking a
large risk. There are many very exploitable vulnerabilities in such an old
version.

On Sunday, December 6, 2015, manny via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
wrote:


Hi,
I can still use my mouse with the numpad in firefox version 30.0

Good Luck, Manny please help me reach a million clicks by forwarding my
stand-up comedy performance to your friends, or Tweet or Facebook it. ** **
** ** ** **http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75fbevlz10g ** ** ** ** **
computer specifications: Window Eyes 9.2, Dell xps420 Windows 7 home
premium, with dual boot to windows 10, with 8 gb RAM, Intel q6600 quad core
drivers and software updated automatically with Ninite and Driver Booster,
which sighted assistance is needed, but other than that Driver Booster is a
great program. Recommended software: Firefox, Thunderbird, Google Chrome,
Winamp, Fritz 12, Chessbase 11, MS Office 2010 security: Microsoft security
essential, Malware Bytes pro, Win Patrol, Roboform, Maintenance: C-cleaner,
Ultra Defrag
On 12/5/2015 8:10 AM, net bat via Talk wrote:


if useing firefox it will stay in the sys tray. and i have this with
windows 7 and 10.
the num pad will not move the mouse out of the sys tray.
i've tried all modes for mouse movement. and with firefox they do not
work.
full screen,focus window, user window etc. does nothing with firefox.

-Original Message- From: Jonathan C. Cohn via Talk
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2015 10:04 AM
To: Robert Ringwald ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Attn. GWMicro Staff - Disappointed in WE 9.2

It might be that you are using the WindowEyes cursor instead of the mouse
cursor. Try clicking the minus sign on the numeric keypad and see if that
makes a difference Also, I understand that Windows 8 and Windows 10 make it
harder to implement the mouse cursor functionality as part of increasing
security and efficiency..
Best wishes,

Jonathan



On Dec 5, 2015, at 12:28, Robert Ringwald via Talk <

talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:

It used to be, in some editions of Window-Eyes that the number pad
worked as a mouse. This no longer is the case. Why?


Bob Ringwald piano, Solo, Duo, Trio, Quartet, Quintet
Fulton Street Jazz Band (Dixieland/Swing)
916/ 806-9551
Amateur (ham) Radio Station K6YBV

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Re: Attn. GWMicro Staff - Disappointed in WE 9.2

[Kevin Barry via Talk]

It is not the fault of gw. Software makers have removed this ability in
some programs. As for using an old version of firefox; you are taking a
large risk. There are many very exploitable vulnerabilities in such an old
version.

On Sunday, December 6, 2015, manny via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
wrote:

> Hi,
> I can still use my mouse with the numpad in firefox version 30.0
>
> Good Luck, Manny please help me reach a million clicks by forwarding my
> stand-up comedy performance to your friends, or Tweet or Facebook it. ** **
> ** ** ** **http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75fbevlz10g ** ** ** ** **
> computer specifications: Window Eyes 9.2, Dell xps420 Windows 7 home
> premium, with dual boot to windows 10, with 8 gb RAM, Intel q6600 quad core
> drivers and software updated automatically with Ninite and Driver Booster,
> which sighted assistance is needed, but other than that Driver Booster is a
> great program. Recommended software: Firefox, Thunderbird, Google Chrome,
> Winamp, Fritz 12, Chessbase 11, MS Office 2010 security: Microsoft security
> essential, Malware Bytes pro, Win Patrol, Roboform, Maintenance: C-cleaner,
> Ultra Defrag
> On 12/5/2015 8:10 AM, net bat via Talk wrote:
>
>> if useing firefox it will stay in the sys tray. and i have this with
>> windows 7 and 10.
>> the num pad will not move the mouse out of the sys tray.
>> i've tried all modes for mouse movement. and with firefox they do not
>> work.
>> full screen,focus window, user window etc. does nothing with firefox.
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Jonathan C. Cohn via Talk
>> Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2015 10:04 AM
>> To: Robert Ringwald ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: Attn. GWMicro Staff - Disappointed in WE 9.2
>>
>> It might be that you are using the WindowEyes cursor instead of the mouse
>> cursor. Try clicking the minus sign on the numeric keypad and see if that
>> makes a difference Also, I understand that Windows 8 and Windows 10 make it
>> harder to implement the mouse cursor functionality as part of increasing
>> security and efficiency..
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>>
>>
>> On Dec 5, 2015, at 12:28, Robert Ringwald via Talk <
>>> talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> It used to be, in some editions of Window-Eyes that the number pad
>>> worked as a mouse. This no longer is the case. Why?
>>>
>>>
>>> Bob Ringwald piano, Solo, Duo, Trio, Quartet, Quintet
>>> Fulton Street Jazz Band (Dixieland/Swing)
>>> 916/ 806-9551
>>> Amateur (ham) Radio Station K6YBV
>>>
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>>> us who do." -Isaac Asimov
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