Re: Update Warning

2016-02-27 Thread kitty hevener via Talk
Joseph, thanks for the tip about GWX control panel.  I installed and have 
not seen get windows 10 messages since.


-Original Message- 
From: Joseph Norton via Talk

Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2016 6:45 AM
To: 'Dennis Long' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' ; 'Kevin Barry'
Subject: RE: Update Warning

Hi Dennis:

If you have Windows 7, 8 or 8.1 and don't want to be forced to upgrade to
Windows 10, this program will stop the automatic download and installation
of Windows 10 and also let you know if the "Get Windows 10" app is present
and let you remove those things.

So, if you are comfortable with Windows 7, 8, or 8.1, this tool will help
you decide when, or whether to upgrade to Windows 10.

As far as I know, you may not need to be as concerned after July 29, as
MicroSoft is going to charge for updating to Windows 10 after that, so, I
doubt they will push it as heavily at that point.

If you want to download this tool, you can get it from:

http://ultimateoutsider.com/downloads/

There are both an installer and a stand-alone executable that you can just
run if you don't like installers.

The advantage of installing the product is that it can watch your system and
warn you if MicroSoft begins pushing Windows 10 to you.

Hope this helps.


-Original Message-
From: Talk
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Behalf Of Dennis Long via Talk
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2016 1:12 AM
To: 'Kevin Barry' <krba...@gmail.com>; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: RE: Update Warning

What will it stop?  Is it for windows 7 or windows 10?

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Kevin Barry via Talk
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 1:52 AM
To: net bat <net...@comcast.net>; Window-Eyes Discussion List
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: Re: Update Warning

download and install the free GWX control panel from ultimate outsider. It
stops all of this nonsense


On Thursday, February 25, 2016, net bat via Talk
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
wrote:


your full of it.
i have not had any access denied to my account with windows 7 and i
will stay with it until 2020 when support ends.
win 10 is not better when it keeps changeing permissions on your
account and you get denied access to your own account and files you
created or installed. twice i could not boot the system and had to re
format and start over because i was denied access to my account.
this has happened 3 times with  a upgrade and with 2 clean re installs.
i got locked out of my own account and i could only log in as a guest
there is still many places in windows 10 where window eyes will lag
behind, lose speech or not speak at all.
apps? there hasn't been a singl app that i am interested in and few
are w e accessible.
periphials and software?
for get it. there is no drivers for my 1 year old dell printer. i
would have to upgrade openbook i would not be able to use windows live
mail which is totally accessible for me without haveing to find things
on the screen with the mouse.
microsoft wants us to use the windows 10 mail program which is still
not accessible. they are changeing the protocalls for email so you
can't use windows wlive mail,hot mail etc. with a microsoft account.
the un accessible edge browser? how long will it be before there is
full access to this?
i do not have a microsoft account
and if this will be the only choice i have the computer will go out
the door.
i refuse to put everything in the cloud where i would not have any
control over stopping hackers from getting my  personal information.
with everyones info being stored on just one microsoft server the
whole pc worlds personal info could be hacked at one fel swoop. no thanks.

-Original Message- From: Gary Melconian via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:20 PM
To: 'Pamela Dominguez' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' ; 'Pastor Gil

Pries'

Subject: RE: Update Warning

No matter you are going ot get windows 10. Guys face the facts its
time oto move on from windows 7 or 8 to windows 10. It's a much better
platform then
7 or 8 eve was. Best world the best o 7 and 8.1 comined into windows 10.
Thast a much better solution then anything else.

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+garymelc=msn@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Pamela Dominguez via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 8:51 PM
To: Pastor Gil Pries <g...@embarqmail.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion
List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: Re: Update Warning

Yes, I have heard it comes back.  They are really trying to push it on us.
Pam.

-Original Message-
From: Pastor Gil Pries via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:04 AM
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Update Warning

Hi,
The update, KB3035583, came back in my update list after I hid it 2

dtimes.

This is the third time I 

RE: Update Warning

2016-02-27 Thread Joseph Norton via Talk
Hi Dennis:

If you have Windows 7, 8 or 8.1 and don't want to be forced to upgrade to
Windows 10, this program will stop the automatic download and installation
of Windows 10 and also let you know if the "Get Windows 10" app is present
and let you remove those things.

So, if you are comfortable with Windows 7, 8, or 8.1, this tool will help
you decide when, or whether to upgrade to Windows 10.

As far as I know, you may not need to be as concerned after July 29, as
MicroSoft is going to charge for updating to Windows 10 after that, so, I
doubt they will push it as heavily at that point.

If you want to download this tool, you can get it from:

http://ultimateoutsider.com/downloads/

There are both an installer and a stand-alone executable that you can just
run if you don't like installers.

The advantage of installing the product is that it can watch your system and
warn you if MicroSoft begins pushing Windows 10 to you.

Hope this helps.


-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+joseph.norton=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Dennis Long via Talk
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2016 1:12 AM
To: 'Kevin Barry' <krba...@gmail.com>; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: RE: Update Warning

What will it stop?  Is it for windows 7 or windows 10?

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Kevin Barry via Talk
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 1:52 AM
To: net bat <net...@comcast.net>; Window-Eyes Discussion List
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: Re: Update Warning

download and install the free GWX control panel from ultimate outsider. It
stops all of this nonsense


On Thursday, February 25, 2016, net bat via Talk
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
wrote:

> your full of it.
> i have not had any access denied to my account with windows 7 and i 
> will stay with it until 2020 when support ends.
> win 10 is not better when it keeps changeing permissions on your 
> account and you get denied access to your own account and files you 
> created or installed. twice i could not boot the system and had to re 
> format and start over because i was denied access to my account.
> this has happened 3 times with  a upgrade and with 2 clean re installs.
> i got locked out of my own account and i could only log in as a guest 
> there is still many places in windows 10 where window eyes will lag 
> behind, lose speech or not speak at all.
> apps? there hasn't been a singl app that i am interested in and few 
> are w e accessible.
> periphials and software?
> for get it. there is no drivers for my 1 year old dell printer. i 
> would have to upgrade openbook i would not be able to use windows live 
> mail which is totally accessible for me without haveing to find things 
> on the screen with the mouse.
> microsoft wants us to use the windows 10 mail program which is still 
> not accessible. they are changeing the protocalls for email so you 
> can't use windows wlive mail,hot mail etc. with a microsoft account.
> the un accessible edge browser? how long will it be before there is 
> full access to this?
> i do not have a microsoft account
> and if this will be the only choice i have the computer will go out 
> the door.
> i refuse to put everything in the cloud where i would not have any 
> control over stopping hackers from getting my  personal information.
> with everyones info being stored on just one microsoft server the 
> whole pc worlds personal info could be hacked at one fel swoop. no thanks.
>
> -Original Message- From: Gary Melconian via Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:20 PM
> To: 'Pamela Dominguez' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' ; 'Pastor Gil
Pries'
> Subject: RE: Update Warning
>
> No matter you are going ot get windows 10. Guys face the facts its 
> time oto move on from windows 7 or 8 to windows 10. It's a much better 
> platform then
> 7 or 8 eve was. Best world the best o 7 and 8.1 comined into windows 10.
> Thast a much better solution then anything else.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+garymelc=msn@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf 
> Of Pamela Dominguez via Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 8:51 PM
> To: Pastor Gil Pries <g...@embarqmail.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion 
> List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
> Subject: Re: Update Warning
>
> Yes, I have heard it comes back.  They are really trying to push it on us.
> Pam.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pastor Gil Pries via Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:04 AM
> To: t...@window-eyes.com
> Subject: Update Warning
>
> Hi,
> The update, KB3035583, came back in my update list after I hid it 2
dtimes.
> This is th

Re: Update Warning

2016-02-26 Thread net bat via Talk

windows 10

-Original Message- 
From: Dennis Long via Talk

Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 10:11 PM
To: 'Kevin Barry' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Update Warning

What will it stop?  Is it for windows 7 or windows 10?

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Kevin Barry via Talk
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 1:52 AM
To: net bat <net...@comcast.net>; Window-Eyes Discussion List
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: Re: Update Warning

download and install the free GWX control panel from ultimate outsider. It
stops all of this nonsense


On Thursday, February 25, 2016, net bat via Talk
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
wrote:


your full of it.
i have not had any access denied to my account with windows 7 and i
will stay with it until 2020 when support ends.
win 10 is not better when it keeps changeing permissions on your
account and you get denied access to your own account and files you
created or installed. twice i could not boot the system and had to re
format and start over because i was denied access to my account.
this has happened 3 times with  a upgrade and with 2 clean re installs.
i got locked out of my own account and i could only log in as a guest
there is still many places in windows 10 where window eyes will lag
behind, lose speech or not speak at all.
apps? there hasn't been a singl app that i am interested in and few
are w e accessible.
periphials and software?
for get it. there is no drivers for my 1 year old dell printer. i
would have to upgrade openbook i would not be able to use windows live
mail which is totally accessible for me without haveing to find things
on the screen with the mouse.
microsoft wants us to use the windows 10 mail program which is still
not accessible. they are changeing the protocalls for email so you
can't use windows wlive mail,hot mail etc. with a microsoft account.
the un accessible edge browser? how long will it be before there is
full access to this?
i do not have a microsoft account
and if this will be the only choice i have the computer will go out
the door.
i refuse to put everything in the cloud where i would not have any
control over stopping hackers from getting my  personal information.
with everyones info being stored on just one microsoft server the
whole pc worlds personal info could be hacked at one fel swoop. no thanks.

-Original Message- From: Gary Melconian via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:20 PM
To: 'Pamela Dominguez' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' ; 'Pastor Gil

Pries'

Subject: RE: Update Warning

No matter you are going ot get windows 10. Guys face the facts its
time oto move on from windows 7 or 8 to windows 10. It's a much better
platform then
7 or 8 eve was. Best world the best o 7 and 8.1 comined into windows 10.
Thast a much better solution then anything else.

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+garymelc=msn@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Pamela Dominguez via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 8:51 PM
To: Pastor Gil Pries <g...@embarqmail.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion
List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: Re: Update Warning

Yes, I have heard it comes back.  They are really trying to push it on us.
Pam.

-Original Message-
From: Pastor Gil Pries via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:04 AM
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Update Warning

Hi,
The update, KB3035583, came back in my update list after I hid it 2

dtimes.

This is the third time I have hidden it.
It put the Get Windows 10 icon in my systray.
Once I uninstalled it the icon is gone again.
Thought you all would like to know.

Pastor Gil
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RE: Update Warning

2016-02-26 Thread Dennis Long via Talk
What will it stop?  Is it for windows 7 or windows 10?

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Kevin Barry via Talk
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 1:52 AM
To: net bat <net...@comcast.net>; Window-Eyes Discussion List
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: Re: Update Warning

download and install the free GWX control panel from ultimate outsider. It
stops all of this nonsense


On Thursday, February 25, 2016, net bat via Talk
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
wrote:

> your full of it.
> i have not had any access denied to my account with windows 7 and i 
> will stay with it until 2020 when support ends.
> win 10 is not better when it keeps changeing permissions on your 
> account and you get denied access to your own account and files you 
> created or installed. twice i could not boot the system and had to re 
> format and start over because i was denied access to my account.
> this has happened 3 times with  a upgrade and with 2 clean re installs.
> i got locked out of my own account and i could only log in as a guest 
> there is still many places in windows 10 where window eyes will lag 
> behind, lose speech or not speak at all.
> apps? there hasn't been a singl app that i am interested in and few 
> are w e accessible.
> periphials and software?
> for get it. there is no drivers for my 1 year old dell printer. i 
> would have to upgrade openbook i would not be able to use windows live 
> mail which is totally accessible for me without haveing to find things 
> on the screen with the mouse.
> microsoft wants us to use the windows 10 mail program which is still 
> not accessible. they are changeing the protocalls for email so you 
> can't use windows wlive mail,hot mail etc. with a microsoft account.
> the un accessible edge browser? how long will it be before there is 
> full access to this?
> i do not have a microsoft account
> and if this will be the only choice i have the computer will go out 
> the door.
> i refuse to put everything in the cloud where i would not have any 
> control over stopping hackers from getting my  personal information.
> with everyones info being stored on just one microsoft server the 
> whole pc worlds personal info could be hacked at one fel swoop. no thanks.
>
> -Original Message- From: Gary Melconian via Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:20 PM
> To: 'Pamela Dominguez' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' ; 'Pastor Gil
Pries'
> Subject: RE: Update Warning
>
> No matter you are going ot get windows 10. Guys face the facts its 
> time oto move on from windows 7 or 8 to windows 10. It's a much better 
> platform then
> 7 or 8 eve was. Best world the best o 7 and 8.1 comined into windows 10.
> Thast a much better solution then anything else.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk 
> [mailto:talk-bounces+garymelc=msn@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf 
> Of Pamela Dominguez via Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 8:51 PM
> To: Pastor Gil Pries <g...@embarqmail.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion 
> List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
> Subject: Re: Update Warning
>
> Yes, I have heard it comes back.  They are really trying to push it on us.
> Pam.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pastor Gil Pries via Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:04 AM
> To: t...@window-eyes.com
> Subject: Update Warning
>
> Hi,
> The update, KB3035583, came back in my update list after I hid it 2
dtimes.
> This is the third time I have hidden it.
> It put the Get Windows 10 icon in my systray.
> Once I uninstalled it the icon is gone again.
> Thought you all would like to know.
>
> Pastor Gil
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RE: Update Warning

2016-02-25 Thread Dennis Long via Talk
 This is just my opinion so take it for what it's worth.  I agree if need be
I won't update the updates.  I have them set to where I select what gets
installed anyway.  A lot of problems could be avoided by not clicking on
links you don't know emails that don't sound right probably aren't don't
open attachments if you don't know the sender or aren't expecting it.  Again
just my opinion.  

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez via Talk
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 3:12 PM
To: net bat <net...@comcast.net>; Window-Eyes Discussion List
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: Re: Update Warning

I agree with you one hundred and fifty per cent!  And as for the cloud, they
can keep it!  Pam.

-Original Message-
From: net bat via Talk
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 1:07 AM
To: Gary Melconian ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Update Warning

your full of it.
i have not had any access denied to my account with windows 7 and i will
stay with it until 2020 when support ends.
win 10 is not better when it keeps changeing permissions on your account and
you get denied access to your own account and files you created or
installed.
twice i could not boot the system and had to re format and start over
because i was denied access to my account.
this has happened 3 times with  a upgrade and with 2 clean re installs.
i got locked out of my own account and i could only log in as a guest there
is still many places in windows 10 where window eyes will lag behind, lose
speech or not speak at all.
apps? there hasn't been a singl app that i am interested in and few are w e
accessible.
periphials and software?
for get it. there is no drivers for my 1 year old dell printer. i would have
to upgrade openbook i would not be able to use windows live mail which is
totally accessible for me without haveing to find things on the screen with
the mouse.
microsoft wants us to use the windows 10 mail program which is still not
accessible. they are changeing the protocalls for email so you can't use
windows wlive mail,hot mail etc. with a microsoft account.
the un accessible edge browser? how long will it be before there is full
access to this?
i do not have a microsoft account
and if this will be the only choice i have the computer will go out the
door.
i refuse to put everything in the cloud where i would not have any control
over stopping hackers from getting my  personal information.
with everyones info being stored on just one microsoft server the whole pc
worlds personal info could be hacked at one fel swoop. no thanks.

-Original Message-
From: Gary Melconian via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:20 PM
To: 'Pamela Dominguez' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' ; 'Pastor Gil Pries'
Subject: RE: Update Warning

No matter you are going ot get windows 10. Guys face the facts its time oto
move on from windows 7 or 8 to windows 10. It's a much better platform then
7 or 8 eve was. Best world the best o 7 and 8.1 comined into windows 10.
Thast a much better solution then anything else.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+garymelc=msn@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 8:51 PM
To: Pastor Gil Pries <g...@embarqmail.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: Re: Update Warning

Yes, I have heard it comes back.  They are really trying to push it on us.
Pam.

-Original Message-
From: Pastor Gil Pries via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:04 AM
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Update Warning

Hi,
The update, KB3035583, came back in my update list after I hid it 2 dtimes.
This is the third time I have hidden it.
It put the Get Windows 10 icon in my systray.
Once I uninstalled it the icon is gone again.
Thought you all would like to know.

Pastor Gil
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Re: Update Warning

2016-02-25 Thread Bryan Peterson via Talk
I for one have no problem with updating and plan to do so as soon as 
finances allow.




Focus your powers and prepare for buttle.
-Original Message- 
From: Nick Sarames via Talk

Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 5:58 PM
To: Pamela Dominguez ; Window-Eyes Discussion List ; Andy Baracco
Subject: Re: Update Warning

It's called business.

On 2/25/2016 3:08 PM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote:
I agree with that.  I don't know why these companies have to keep pushing 
stuff down our throats.  Pam.


-Original Message- From: Andy Baracco via Talk
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 12:27 AM
To: Gary Melconian ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Update Warning

A mobility instructor once told me that the fastest route between two 
points

is the one you know. To paraphrase, the best computing solution for you is
the one that you feel most comfortable with.

Andy


-Original Message- From: Gary Melconian via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:20 PM
To: 'Pamela Dominguez' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' ; 'Pastor Gil 
Pries'

Subject: RE: Update Warning

No matter you are going ot get windows 10. Guys face the facts its time 
oto
move on from windows 7 or 8 to windows 10. It's a much better platform 
then

7 or 8 eve was. Best world the best o 7 and 8.1 comined into windows 10.
Thast a much better solution then anything else.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+garymelc=msn@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 8:51 PM
To: Pastor Gil Pries <g...@embarqmail.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: Re: Update Warning

Yes, I have heard it comes back.  They are really trying to push it on us.
Pam.

-Original Message-
From: Pastor Gil Pries via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:04 AM
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Update Warning

Hi,
The update, KB3035583, came back in my update list after I hid it 2 
dtimes.

This is the third time I have hidden it.
It put the Get Windows 10 icon in my systray.
Once I uninstalled it the icon is gone again.
Thought you all would like to know.

Pastor Gil
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Re: Update Warning

2016-02-25 Thread Nick Sarames via Talk

It's called business.

On 2/25/2016 3:08 PM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote:
I agree with that.  I don't know why these companies have to keep 
pushing stuff down our throats.  Pam.


-Original Message- From: Andy Baracco via Talk
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 12:27 AM
To: Gary Melconian ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Update Warning

A mobility instructor once told me that the fastest route between two 
points
is the one you know. To paraphrase, the best computing solution for 
you is

the one that you feel most comfortable with.

Andy


-Original Message- From: Gary Melconian via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:20 PM
To: 'Pamela Dominguez' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' ; 'Pastor Gil 
Pries'

Subject: RE: Update Warning

No matter you are going ot get windows 10. Guys face the facts its 
time oto
move on from windows 7 or 8 to windows 10. It's a much better platform 
then

7 or 8 eve was. Best world the best o 7 and 8.1 comined into windows 10.
Thast a much better solution then anything else.

-Original Message-
From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+garymelc=msn@lists.window-eyes.com] On

Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 8:51 PM
To: Pastor Gil Pries <g...@embarqmail.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List
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Subject: Re: Update Warning

Yes, I have heard it comes back.  They are really trying to push it on 
us.

Pam.

-Original Message-
From: Pastor Gil Pries via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:04 AM
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Update Warning

Hi,
The update, KB3035583, came back in my update list after I hid it 2 
dtimes.

This is the third time I have hidden it.
It put the Get Windows 10 icon in my systray.
Once I uninstalled it the icon is gone again.
Thought you all would like to know.

Pastor Gil
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Re: Update Warning

2016-02-25 Thread Pamela Dominguez via Talk
I agree with you one hundred and fifty per cent!  And as for the cloud, they 
can keep it!  Pam.


-Original Message- 
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Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 1:07 AM
To: Gary Melconian ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Update Warning

your full of it.
i have not had any access denied to my account with windows 7 and i will 
stay

with it until 2020 when support ends.
win 10 is not better when it keeps changeing permissions on your account and
you get denied access to your own account and files you created or 
installed.
twice i could not boot the system and had to re format and start over 
because i

was denied access to my account.
this has happened 3 times with  a upgrade and with 2 clean re installs.
i got locked out of my own account and i could only log in as a guest
there is still many places in windows 10 where window eyes will lag behind,
lose speech or not speak at all.
apps? there hasn't been a singl app that i am interested in and few are w e
accessible.
periphials and software?
for get it. there is no drivers for my 1 year old dell printer. i would have 
to
upgrade openbook i would not be able to use windows live mail which is 
totally
accessible for me without haveing to find things on the screen with the 
mouse.

microsoft wants us to use the windows 10 mail program which is still not
accessible. they are changeing the protocalls for email so you can't use
windows wlive mail,hot mail etc. with a microsoft account.
the un accessible edge browser? how long will it be before there is full 
access

to this?
i do not have a microsoft account
and if this will be the only choice i have the computer will go out the 
door.
i refuse to put everything in the cloud where i would not have any control 
over

stopping hackers from getting my  personal information.
with everyones info being stored on just one microsoft server the whole pc
worlds personal info could be hacked at one fel swoop. no thanks.

-Original Message- 
From: Gary Melconian via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:20 PM
To: 'Pamela Dominguez' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' ; 'Pastor Gil Pries'
Subject: RE: Update Warning

No matter you are going ot get windows 10. Guys face the facts its time oto
move on from windows 7 or 8 to windows 10. It's a much better platform then
7 or 8 eve was. Best world the best o 7 and 8.1 comined into windows 10.
Thast a much better solution then anything else.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+garymelc=msn@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 8:51 PM
To: Pastor Gil Pries <g...@embarqmail.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: Re: Update Warning

Yes, I have heard it comes back.  They are really trying to push it on us.
Pam.

-Original Message-
From: Pastor Gil Pries via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:04 AM
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Update Warning

Hi,
The update, KB3035583, came back in my update list after I hid it 2 dtimes.
This is the third time I have hidden it.
It put the Get Windows 10 icon in my systray.
Once I uninstalled it the icon is gone again.
Thought you all would like to know.

Pastor Gil
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Re: Update Warning

2016-02-25 Thread Pamela Dominguez via Talk
I agree with that.  I don't know why these companies have to keep pushing 
stuff down our throats.  Pam.


-Original Message- 
From: Andy Baracco via Talk

Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 12:27 AM
To: Gary Melconian ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Update Warning

A mobility instructor once told me that the fastest route between two points
is the one you know. To paraphrase, the best computing solution for you is
the one that you feel most comfortable with.

Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Gary Melconian via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:20 PM
To: 'Pamela Dominguez' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' ; 'Pastor Gil Pries'
Subject: RE: Update Warning

No matter you are going ot get windows 10. Guys face the facts its time oto
move on from windows 7 or 8 to windows 10. It's a much better platform then
7 or 8 eve was. Best world the best o 7 and 8.1 comined into windows 10.
Thast a much better solution then anything else.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+garymelc=msn@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 8:51 PM
To: Pastor Gil Pries <g...@embarqmail.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: Re: Update Warning

Yes, I have heard it comes back.  They are really trying to push it on us.
Pam.

-Original Message-
From: Pastor Gil Pries via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:04 AM
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Update Warning

Hi,
The update, KB3035583, came back in my update list after I hid it 2 dtimes.
This is the third time I have hidden it.
It put the Get Windows 10 icon in my systray.
Once I uninstalled it the icon is gone again.
Thought you all would like to know.

Pastor Gil
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Re: Update Warning

2016-02-25 Thread Pamela Dominguez via Talk
I have enough stuff to always learn without having to always learn how to 
use new windows, too.  Pam.


-Original Message- 
From: Bob Tinney via Talk

Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 12:00 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Update Warning

I just can't figure out why so many are afraid of Windows 10.  You can
update to windows 10 for free until July 17 of this year.  After that,
it will cost $100.00.  Windows 10 is much faster and more secure that
Windows 7 and easier to use and faster than windows 8 and 8.1.

Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net


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RE: Update Warning

2016-02-25 Thread Joseph Norton via Talk
Hi:

No one should be forced to upgrade, if what they're working with works for
them.

Though I have not had the issues with Windows 10 you have, and I am doing
pretty well under Windows 10, I see no urgency if someone does not want to
update to Windows 10.

My wife, for example, is quite happy with Windows 8.1.  It does what she
wants, and, she is happy with that.

Interestingly, I did install Windows 10 on her computer, but, the HD decided
to fail at about the same time, so the computer would randomly reboot.  I
replaced the HD in her laptop and reverted back to Windows 8.1 and she is
running along with the GWX control panel watching out for her.




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From: Talk
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Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 1:08 AM
To: Gary Melconian <garym...@msn.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: Re: Update Warning

your full of it.
i have not had any access denied to my account with windows 7 and i will
stay with it until 2020 when support ends.
win 10 is not better when it keeps changeing permissions on your account and
you get denied access to your own account and files you created or
installed. 
twice i could not boot the system and had to re format and start over
because i was denied access to my account.
this has happened 3 times with  a upgrade and with 2 clean re installs.
i got locked out of my own account and i could only log in as a guest there
is still many places in windows 10 where window eyes will lag behind, lose
speech or not speak at all.
apps? there hasn't been a singl app that i am interested in and few are w e
accessible.
periphials and software?
for get it. there is no drivers for my 1 year old dell printer. i would have
to upgrade openbook i would not be able to use windows live mail which is
totally accessible for me without haveing to find things on the screen with
the mouse.
microsoft wants us to use the windows 10 mail program which is still not
accessible. they are changeing the protocalls for email so you can't use
windows wlive mail,hot mail etc. with a microsoft account.
the un accessible edge browser? how long will it be before there is full
access to this?
i do not have a microsoft account
and if this will be the only choice i have the computer will go out the
door.
i refuse to put everything in the cloud where i would not have any control
over stopping hackers from getting my  personal information.
with everyones info being stored on just one microsoft server the whole pc
worlds personal info could be hacked at one fel swoop. no thanks.

-Original Message-
From: Gary Melconian via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:20 PM
To: 'Pamela Dominguez' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' ; 'Pastor Gil Pries'
Subject: RE: Update Warning

No matter you are going ot get windows 10. Guys face the facts its time oto
move on from windows 7 or 8 to windows 10. It's a much better platform then
7 or 8 eve was. Best world the best o 7 and 8.1 comined into windows 10.
Thast a much better solution then anything else.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+garymelc=msn@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 8:51 PM
To: Pastor Gil Pries <g...@embarqmail.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: Re: Update Warning

Yes, I have heard it comes back.  They are really trying to push it on us.
Pam.

-Original Message-
From: Pastor Gil Pries via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:04 AM
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Update Warning

Hi,
The update, KB3035583, came back in my update list after I hid it 2 dtimes.
This is the third time I have hidden it.
It put the Get Windows 10 icon in my systray.
Once I uninstalled it the icon is gone again.
Thought you all would like to know.

Pastor Gil
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RE: Update Warning

2016-02-25 Thread Roger Behm via Talk
Hi Andy,

You are right, updating to windows 10 pro, which I would suggest only doing
if you must, can cost more in software not running under windows 10 or
peripherals not having drivers for windows 2010.
 
I am still using very successfully windows XP pro on four of my desktops,
keeping my AVG internet security up to date and using firefox when necessary
for browsing.

I love I like using outlook express and outlook 2003, which doesn't have all
the issues that windows live, thunderbird or other some what accessible
email clients are being used under windows 7 and higher.

I also have windows 7 pro on 5 other desktops in my  home, with office
either 2010 or 2013, so I can see what works on windows 7 pro.

I also have 1 laptop with windows 8.1 and 1 laptop with windows 10 pro, so I
am up-to-date and can support my customers who are running those operating
systems and see what peripherals  and software work under windows 7, 8, and
10.
I also received office 2016 from my wife's job for $10.00, but have not
installed it yet, since I don't see any advantage in using it right now, to
tell you the truth, I am still using very successfully office 2003 on my XP
machines with the patch that opens up office 2007 and higher file tuypes.

My thinking is,  if it still works for what you want to do, why upgrade
unless your work place demands it or you like being a test monkey!

Eventually like all , you will be forced by Microsoft to be at windows 10,
but that is years away and for now windows XP pro  and Windows 7 pro are
just great!

Regards,

Roger Behm



-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+aistech=ameritech@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Andy Baracco via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 11:12 PM
To: Bob Tinney; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Update Warning

The main concern for me is that I have an older computer with older 
peripherals. I'm sure my computer can run Windows 10, but I fear that there 
may not be Windows 10 drivers for my peripherals, meaning that I will have 
to spend money to replace them, so this isn't necessarily a painless or free

deal for me.

Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Bob Tinney via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:00 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Update Warning

I just can't figure out why so many are afraid of Windows 10.  You can
update to windows 10 for free until July 17 of this year.  After that,
it will cost $100.00.  Windows 10 is much faster and more secure that
Windows 7 and easier to use and faster than windows 8 and 8.1.

Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net


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Re: Update Warning

2016-02-24 Thread Kevin Barry via Talk
download and install the free GWX control panel from ultimate outsider. It
stops all of this nonsense


On Thursday, February 25, 2016, net bat via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
wrote:

> your full of it.
> i have not had any access denied to my account with windows 7 and i will
> stay with it until 2020 when support ends.
> win 10 is not better when it keeps changeing permissions on your account
> and you get denied access to your own account and files you created or
> installed. twice i could not boot the system and had to re format and start
> over because i was denied access to my account.
> this has happened 3 times with  a upgrade and with 2 clean re installs.
> i got locked out of my own account and i could only log in as a guest
> there is still many places in windows 10 where window eyes will lag
> behind, lose speech or not speak at all.
> apps? there hasn't been a singl app that i am interested in and few are w
> e accessible.
> periphials and software?
> for get it. there is no drivers for my 1 year old dell printer. i would
> have to upgrade openbook i would not be able to use windows live mail which
> is totally accessible for me without haveing to find things on the screen
> with the mouse.
> microsoft wants us to use the windows 10 mail program which is still not
> accessible. they are changeing the protocalls for email so you can't use
> windows wlive mail,hot mail etc. with a microsoft account.
> the un accessible edge browser? how long will it be before there is full
> access to this?
> i do not have a microsoft account
> and if this will be the only choice i have the computer will go out the
> door.
> i refuse to put everything in the cloud where i would not have any control
> over stopping hackers from getting my  personal information.
> with everyones info being stored on just one microsoft server the whole pc
> worlds personal info could be hacked at one fel swoop. no thanks.
>
> -Original Message- From: Gary Melconian via Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:20 PM
> To: 'Pamela Dominguez' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' ; 'Pastor Gil Pries'
> Subject: RE: Update Warning
>
> No matter you are going ot get windows 10. Guys face the facts its time oto
> move on from windows 7 or 8 to windows 10. It's a much better platform then
> 7 or 8 eve was. Best world the best o 7 and 8.1 comined into windows 10.
> Thast a much better solution then anything else.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+garymelc=msn@lists.window-eyes.com] On
> Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez via Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 8:51 PM
> To: Pastor Gil Pries <g...@embarqmail.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
> Subject: Re: Update Warning
>
> Yes, I have heard it comes back.  They are really trying to push it on us.
> Pam.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pastor Gil Pries via Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:04 AM
> To: t...@window-eyes.com
> Subject: Update Warning
>
> Hi,
> The update, KB3035583, came back in my update list after I hid it 2 dtimes.
> This is the third time I have hidden it.
> It put the Get Windows 10 icon in my systray.
> Once I uninstalled it the icon is gone again.
> Thought you all would like to know.
>
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Re: Update Warning

2016-02-24 Thread net bat via Talk

your full of it.
i have not had any access denied to my account with windows 7 and i will stay 
with it until 2020 when support ends.
win 10 is not better when it keeps changeing permissions on your account and 
you get denied access to your own account and files you created or installed. 
twice i could not boot the system and had to re format and start over because i 
was denied access to my account.

this has happened 3 times with  a upgrade and with 2 clean re installs.
i got locked out of my own account and i could only log in as a guest
there is still many places in windows 10 where window eyes will lag behind, 
lose speech or not speak at all.
apps? there hasn't been a singl app that i am interested in and few are w e 
accessible.

periphials and software?
for get it. there is no drivers for my 1 year old dell printer. i would have to 
upgrade openbook i would not be able to use windows live mail which is totally 
accessible for me without haveing to find things on the screen with the mouse.
microsoft wants us to use the windows 10 mail program which is still not 
accessible. they are changeing the protocalls for email so you can't use 
windows wlive mail,hot mail etc. with a microsoft account.
the un accessible edge browser? how long will it be before there is full access 
to this?

i do not have a microsoft account
and if this will be the only choice i have the computer will go out the door.
i refuse to put everything in the cloud where i would not have any control over 
stopping hackers from getting my  personal information.
with everyones info being stored on just one microsoft server the whole pc 
worlds personal info could be hacked at one fel swoop. no thanks.


-Original Message- 
From: Gary Melconian via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:20 PM
To: 'Pamela Dominguez' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' ; 'Pastor Gil Pries'
Subject: RE: Update Warning

No matter you are going ot get windows 10. Guys face the facts its time oto
move on from windows 7 or 8 to windows 10. It's a much better platform then
7 or 8 eve was. Best world the best o 7 and 8.1 comined into windows 10.
Thast a much better solution then anything else.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+garymelc=msn@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 8:51 PM
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Subject: Re: Update Warning

Yes, I have heard it comes back.  They are really trying to push it on us.
Pam.

-Original Message-
From: Pastor Gil Pries via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:04 AM
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Update Warning

Hi,
The update, KB3035583, came back in my update list after I hid it 2 dtimes.
This is the third time I have hidden it.
It put the Get Windows 10 icon in my systray.
Once I uninstalled it the icon is gone again.
Thought you all would like to know.

Pastor Gil
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RE: Update Warning

2016-02-24 Thread Kevin Minor via Talk
Hi.

I was one of those who went from Windows 8.1 to Windows 10 the day it was 
released, but I had some issues with this PC.  Elloquence would get stuck on a 
phoneme, and the only way to fix it was to turn the PC off and back on again.  
Even worse, the PC would randomly reboot itself.  I ended up sending it to the 
Lenovo hospital where they replaced the hard drive.  Thankfully the computer 
was still under warranty, so I didn't have to pay for the repair.  I then 
decided to give Windows 10 another try, but the same thing with speech getting 
stuck happened again.  I called up Microsoft Accessibility and reverted to 
Windows 8.1.  I was a happy user of 8.1, until a couple of weeks ago when my 
speech did what it did in 10.  I discovered that the problem was in the USB hub 
that I had my external sound card and wireless keyboard connected to.  I then 
decided to once again try Windows 10, and, knock on the wooden computer table, 
I've had no problems.  I upgraded on February 13, so it's be
 en a little less than two weeks ago.

I'm sharing this to let those who think it's important to update to the latest 
OS that there are circumstances where this may not be the best thing to do.  
Believe it or not, I have a PC that will be fifteen years old in October of 
this year, and it has XP on it.  I haven't had a single problem with that old 
desktop PC, and it has been on constantly for most of its life.  I have a ham 
radio program on it which allows other ham radio operators the ability to 
connect to a radio that I have hooked to the PC so that they can talk to hams 
in the Lexington, Kentucky area.  Sometimes the latest and greatest thing isn't 
necessary.  Don't get me wrong, I really like Windows 10, and I don't regret 
upgrading to it on my Lenovo laptop.  Just realize that not everybody has 
different levels of hardware that may limit them to a certain OS.

Just something to consider.

Have a blessed day, and don't work too hard.

Kevin Minor, Lexington, KY
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Re: Update Warning

2016-02-24 Thread Nick Sarames via Talk
Sometimes, you need to get out of your comfort  zone.  That's how I 
learned my way around Manhattan.


On 2/25/2016 12:27 AM, Andy Baracco via Talk wrote:
A mobility instructor once told me that the fastest route between two 
points is the one you know. To paraphrase, the best computing solution 
for you is the one that you feel most comfortable with.


Andy


-Original Message- From: Gary Melconian via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:20 PM
To: 'Pamela Dominguez' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' ; 'Pastor Gil 
Pries'

Subject: RE: Update Warning

No matter you are going ot get windows 10. Guys face the facts its 
time oto
move on from windows 7 or 8 to windows 10. It's a much better platform 
then

7 or 8 eve was. Best world the best o 7 and 8.1 comined into windows 10.
Thast a much better solution then anything else.

-Original Message-
From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+garymelc=msn@lists.window-eyes.com] On

Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 8:51 PM
To: Pastor Gil Pries <g...@embarqmail.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: Re: Update Warning

Yes, I have heard it comes back.  They are really trying to push it on 
us.

Pam.

-Original Message-
From: Pastor Gil Pries via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:04 AM
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Update Warning

Hi,
The update, KB3035583, came back in my update list after I hid it 2 
dtimes.

This is the third time I have hidden it.
It put the Get Windows 10 icon in my systray.
Once I uninstalled it the icon is gone again.
Thought you all would like to know.

Pastor Gil
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Re: Update Warning

2016-02-24 Thread Andy Baracco via Talk
A mobility instructor once told me that the fastest route between two points 
is the one you know. To paraphrase, the best computing solution for you is 
the one that you feel most comfortable with.


Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Gary Melconian via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:20 PM
To: 'Pamela Dominguez' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' ; 'Pastor Gil Pries'
Subject: RE: Update Warning

No matter you are going ot get windows 10. Guys face the facts its time oto
move on from windows 7 or 8 to windows 10. It's a much better platform then
7 or 8 eve was. Best world the best o 7 and 8.1 comined into windows 10.
Thast a much better solution then anything else.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+garymelc=msn@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 8:51 PM
To: Pastor Gil Pries <g...@embarqmail.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: Re: Update Warning

Yes, I have heard it comes back.  They are really trying to push it on us.
Pam.

-Original Message-
From: Pastor Gil Pries via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:04 AM
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Update Warning

Hi,
The update, KB3035583, came back in my update list after I hid it 2 dtimes.
This is the third time I have hidden it.
It put the Get Windows 10 icon in my systray.
Once I uninstalled it the icon is gone again.
Thought you all would like to know.

Pastor Gil
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RE: Update Warning

2016-02-24 Thread Gary Melconian via Talk
No matter you are going ot get windows 10. Guys face the facts its time oto
move on from windows 7 or 8 to windows 10. It's a much better platform then
7 or 8 eve was. Best world the best o 7 and 8.1 comined into windows 10.
Thast a much better solution then anything else.  

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+garymelc=msn@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 8:51 PM
To: Pastor Gil Pries <g...@embarqmail.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: Re: Update Warning

Yes, I have heard it comes back.  They are really trying to push it on us. 
Pam.

-Original Message-
From: Pastor Gil Pries via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:04 AM
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Update Warning

Hi,
The update, KB3035583, came back in my update list after I hid it 2 dtimes.
This is the third time I have hidden it.
It put the Get Windows 10 icon in my systray.
Once I uninstalled it the icon is gone again.
Thought you all would like to know.

Pastor Gil
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RE: Update Warning

2016-02-24 Thread Gary Melconian via Talk
I don't ge tit either. Actually you will be up to date. Everything will b
working smoothly an that will be that. but I don't ge it.  
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Re: Update Warning

2016-02-24 Thread Andy Baracco via Talk
The main concern for me is that I have an older computer with older 
peripherals. I'm sure my computer can run Windows 10, but I fear that there 
may not be Windows 10 drivers for my peripherals, meaning that I will have 
to spend money to replace them, so this isn't necessarily a painless or free 
deal for me.


Andy


-Original Message- 
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Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:00 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Update Warning

I just can't figure out why so many are afraid of Windows 10.  You can
update to windows 10 for free until July 17 of this year.  After that,
it will cost $100.00.  Windows 10 is much faster and more secure that
Windows 7 and easier to use and faster than windows 8 and 8.1.

Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net


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Re: Update Warning

2016-02-24 Thread Bob Tinney via Talk
I just can't figure out why so many are afraid of Windows 10.  You can 
update to windows 10 for free until July 17 of this year.  After that, 
it will cost $100.00.  Windows 10 is much faster and more secure that 
Windows 7 and easier to use and faster than windows 8 and 8.1.


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Re: Update Warning

2016-02-24 Thread Pamela Dominguez via Talk
Yes, I have heard it comes back.  They are really trying to push it on us. 
Pam.


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To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Update Warning

Hi,
The update, KB3035583, came back in my update list after I hid it 2 dtimes.
This is the third time I have hidden it.
It put the Get Windows 10 icon in my systray.
Once I uninstalled it the icon is gone again.
Thought you all would like to know.

Pastor Gil
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RE: Update Warning

2016-02-24 Thread Joseph Norton via Talk
Hi:

I wouldn't disable critical updates, just get GWX Control Panel from 

http://ultimateoutsider.com/downloads/

and it should take care of the Get Windows 10 app.

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Hi,

Thanks for this reminder.

Rod

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Sent: February 24, 2016 1:53 PM
To: Pastor Gil Pries <g...@embarqmail.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List
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Subject: Re: Update Warning

go into windows update and turn off the option to automatically install
important updates with the critical updates.
i found the patch too but it did not install so i was able to re hide it
again.
so far i have had no need for any of the optional updates.
i wish microsoft would use descriptions instead of hideing behind
meaningless numbers for there updates.
***
you may hide the update. but the gwx program that downloads the patch is
still there in the system32 folder.
and the windows 10 setup files are already on your computer in a hidden
folder waiting to be installed.
bt_windows
try the gwx control program to delete all of this.
you can re run it as needed to check that the gwx program has not installed
again.

http://winsupersite.com/windows-10/use-gwx-control-panel-stop-windows-10-upg
rade-prompts

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From: Pastor Gil Pries via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 6:04 AM
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Update Warning

Hi,
The update, KB3035583, came back in my update list after I hid it 2 dtimes.
This is the third time I have hidden it.
It put the Get Windows 10 icon in my systray.
Once I uninstalled it the icon is gone again.
Thought you all would like to know.

Pastor Gil
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RE: Update Warning

2016-02-24 Thread Joseph Norton via Talk
Hi:

There is a program that is very accessible called GWX Control Panel.

It will help you get rid of the Get Windows 10 app and help keep it off as
well.

I have it on my wife's Windows 8.1 laptop so she doesn't get bothered by the
Windows 10 update and it has worked very well.

Check it out at 

http://ultimateoutsider.com/downloads/

Hope this helps.



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Subject: Update Warning

Hi,
The update, KB3035583, came back in my update list after I hid it 2 dtimes.
This is the third time I have hidden it.
It put the Get Windows 10 icon in my systray.
Once I uninstalled it the icon is gone again.
Thought you all would like to know.

Pastor Gil
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Re: Update Warning

2016-02-24 Thread Singing Sparrow via Talk

you can use the gwx control pannel program to deal with this.

On 2/24/2016 8:04 AM, Pastor Gil Pries via Talk wrote:

Hi,
The update, KB3035583, came back in my update list after I hid it 2 dtimes.
This is the third time I have hidden it.
It put the Get Windows 10 icon in my systray.
Once I uninstalled it the icon is gone again.
Thought you all would like to know.

Pastor Gil
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RE: Update Warning

2016-02-24 Thread Rod Hutton via Talk
Hi,

Thanks for this reminder.

Rod

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Sent: February 24, 2016 1:53 PM
To: Pastor Gil Pries <g...@embarqmail.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: Re: Update Warning

go into windows update and turn off the option to automatically install 
important updates with the critical updates.
i found the patch too but it did not install so i was able to re hide it
again.
so far i have had no need for any of the optional updates.
i wish microsoft would use descriptions instead of hideing behind
meaningless 
numbers for there updates.
***
you may hide the update. but the gwx program that downloads the patch is
still 
there in the system32 folder.
and the windows 10 setup files are already on your computer in a hidden
folder 
waiting to be installed.
bt_windows
try the gwx control program to delete all of this.
you can re run it as needed to check that the gwx program has not installed 
again.

http://winsupersite.com/windows-10/use-gwx-control-panel-stop-windows-10-upg
rade-prompts

-Original Message- 
From: Pastor Gil Pries via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 6:04 AM
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Update Warning

Hi,
The update, KB3035583, came back in my update list after I hid it 2 dtimes.
This is the third time I have hidden it.
It put the Get Windows 10 icon in my systray.
Once I uninstalled it the icon is gone again.
Thought you all would like to know.

Pastor Gil
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Re: Update Warning

2016-02-24 Thread net bat via Talk
go into windows update and turn off the option to automatically install 
important updates with the critical updates.

i found the patch too but it did not install so i was able to re hide it again.
so far i have had no need for any of the optional updates.
i wish microsoft would use descriptions instead of hideing behind meaningless 
numbers for there updates.

***
you may hide the update. but the gwx program that downloads the patch is still 
there in the system32 folder.
and the windows 10 setup files are already on your computer in a hidden folder 
waiting to be installed.

bt_windows
try the gwx control program to delete all of this.
you can re run it as needed to check that the gwx program has not installed 
again.


http://winsupersite.com/windows-10/use-gwx-control-panel-stop-windows-10-upgrade-prompts

-Original Message- 
From: Pastor Gil Pries via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 6:04 AM
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Update Warning

Hi,
The update, KB3035583, came back in my update list after I hid it 2 dtimes.
This is the third time I have hidden it.
It put the Get Windows 10 icon in my systray.
Once I uninstalled it the icon is gone again.
Thought you all would like to know.

Pastor Gil
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Re: Update Warning

2016-02-24 Thread Pastor Gil Pries via Talk

   It appeared as an important update, so I installed it.
I didn't pay attention to the number unfortunately.
It was an update for Windows 7.

Pastor Gil

-Original Message- 
From: Dennis Long

Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 6:09 AM
To: 'Pastor Gil Pries' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Update Warning

How did it appear as a required update?

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On Behalf Of Pastor Gil Pries via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:05 AM
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Subject: Update Warning

Hi,
The update, KB3035583, came back in my update list after I hid it 2 dtimes.
This is the third time I have hidden it.
It put the Get Windows 10 icon in my systray.
Once I uninstalled it the icon is gone again.
Thought you all would like to know.

Pastor Gil
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Update Warning

2016-02-24 Thread Pastor Gil Pries via Talk
Hi,
The update, KB3035583, came back in my update list after I hid it 2 dtimes.
This is the third time I have hidden it.
It put the Get Windows 10 icon in my systray.
Once I uninstalled it the icon is gone again.
Thought you all would like to know.

Pastor Gil
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RE: Windows Update Warning

2015-12-16 Thread via Talk
I too have used it.  It's very good and, helpful.

And, screen friendly as well.

Cheers,

anne 

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Subject: Re: Windows Update Warning

i used the gwx control pannel and its screen-reader friendly woot
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To: "Loy" <loyrg2...@gmail.com>; "Window-Eyes Discussion List" 
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Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 9:29 AM
Subject: Re: Windows Update Warning


> If you want to get rid of the windows 10 stuff check out gwx control 
> pannel from.
> http://ultimateoutsider.com/downloads/
>
>
>
> On 12/16/2015 7:50 AM, Loy via Talk wrote:
>> That is the update that puts the Windows Update icon in the sys tray.
>> - Original Message - From: "Pastor Gil Pries via Talk" 
>> <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
>> To: <t...@window-eyes.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 8:17 AM
>> Subject: Windows Update Warning
>>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I checked for updates this morning and there was another update 
>>> KB3035583.
>>> I don't know if it is the same update as before, because I hid it.
>>> I hid this one also to be safe.
>>>
>>> Pastor Gil
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Re: Windows Update Warning

2015-12-16 Thread joseph weakland via Talk

i used the gwx control pannel and its screen-reader friendly woot
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Subject: Re: Windows Update Warning


If you want to get rid of the windows 10 stuff check out gwx control 
pannel from.

http://ultimateoutsider.com/downloads/



On 12/16/2015 7:50 AM, Loy via Talk wrote:

That is the update that puts the Windows Update icon in the sys tray.
- Original Message - From: "Pastor Gil Pries via Talk" 
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>

To: <t...@window-eyes.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 8:17 AM
Subject: Windows Update Warning



Hi,

I checked for updates this morning and there was another update 
KB3035583.

I don’t know if it is the same update as before, because I hid it.
I hid this one also to be safe.

Pastor Gil
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Re: Windows Update Warning

2015-12-16 Thread Loy via Talk

That is the update that puts the Windows Update icon in the sys tray.
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To: <t...@window-eyes.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 8:17 AM
Subject: Windows Update Warning



Hi,

I checked for updates this morning and there was another update KB3035583.
I don’t know if it is the same update as before, because I hid it.
I hid this one also to be safe.

Pastor Gil
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Windows Update Warning

2015-12-16 Thread Pastor Gil Pries via Talk
Hi,

I checked for updates this morning and there was another update KB3035583.
I don’t know if it is the same update as before, because I hid it.
I hid this one also to be safe.

Pastor Gil
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RE: Windows Update Warning

2015-12-16 Thread Michael Massey via Talk
Correct, but Pastor Gil mentioned that he hid the update in order to prevent 
the icon from appearing again.  Yet, he had to hide the update again.  

Mike M. 

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Subject: Re: Windows Update Warning

That is the update that puts the Windows Update icon in the sys tray.
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From: "Pastor Gil Pries via Talk" <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
To: <t...@window-eyes.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 8:17 AM
Subject: Windows Update Warning


> Hi,
>
> I checked for updates this morning and there was another update KB3035583.
> I don’t know if it is the same update as before, because I hid it.
> I hid this one also to be safe.
>
> Pastor Gil
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Re: Windows Update Warning

2015-12-16 Thread Singing Sparrow via Talk
If you want to get rid of the windows 10 stuff check out gwx control 
pannel from.

http://ultimateoutsider.com/downloads/



On 12/16/2015 7:50 AM, Loy via Talk wrote:

That is the update that puts the Windows Update icon in the sys tray.
- Original Message - From: "Pastor Gil Pries via Talk" 
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Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 8:17 AM
Subject: Windows Update Warning



Hi,

I checked for updates this morning and there was another update 
KB3035583.

I don’t know if it is the same update as before, because I hid it.
I hid this one also to be safe.

Pastor Gil
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Re: Windows Update Warning

2015-12-16 Thread Chris Skarstad via Talk
That was probably a good thing to do.  I haven't followed this thread 
very closely, but to prevent this windows 10 thing from happening again, 
you'll want to use something called GWX control panel.  Note it's not a 
product made by GW Micro or AI squared, it's just got a similar name.   
Here's a link to the download page.

http://ultimateoutsider.com/downloads/
 I'll even make it easier for y'all. here's a direct link to the 
installer, and then a direct link to the stand-alone executable. The 
only real difference is that the installer creates entries on your start 
menu and puts an icon for it on your desktop.  I chose the stand-alone 
executable, because you just run it, press enter on one button and 
you're done.  Direct link to installer:

http://ultimateoutsider.com/downloads/GwxControlPanelSetup.exe

Direct link to stand-alone executable:
http://ultimateoutsider.com/downloads/GWX_control_panel.exe
Remember, the stand-alone executable is just something you run, so if 
you download that version, remember where your download folder is so you 
can run it.  If you're not sure where your download folder is and you 
just wanna keep it simple, choose the installer. the setup screen is a 
standard one so you should have no trouble, and you can run the program 
just like any other piece of software.




I know this is a big thing for a lot of people including me.  My pc is 
just too old and isn't powerful enough to run Windows 10, so I wanted to 
take those silly update pop-up windows away, and I know a lot of you do 
too. Hope this helps.









On 12/16/2015 8:17 AM, Pastor Gil Pries via Talk wrote:

Hi,

I checked for updates this morning and there was another update KB3035583.
I don’t know if it is the same update as before, because I hid it.
I hid this one also to be safe.

Pastor Gil
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was RE: update warning! Now new question

2015-12-09 Thread Smith, Veronica via Talk
So below you have a quote, could you please tell me how to do that.  
veronica

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Subject: Re: update warning!

what program is that, I'd love to get rid of that win 10 thing too 



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Re: update warning!

2015-12-08 Thread William Vandervest via Talk
what program is that, I'd love to get rid of that win 10 thing too 




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RE: update warning!

2015-12-08 Thread via Talk
Hi,

I have used the gw control panel program someone suggested, and, it removed
the windows10 upgrade from the sysem tray or, whatever its's called these
days, or, the task trya.

Sorry to be som convoluted.

Anyway, it worked.

Cheers,

anne

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Sent: Wednesday, 9 December 2015 8:58 AM
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Subject: update warning!

Hello list members,
This is a warning to not update the Microsoft outlook for today.  I
downloaded and installed the windows update for this month, that consisted
of about 18 updates.  After installing and rebooting my windows 7 computer,
my windows outlook 10 started in safe mode.  I had to go to the Microsoft
disability phone line and they took over my computer to remove the update
and hide it until they fix the update later this month.  It is ok to install
all of the other updates, but do not install the outlook update or your
outlook will start in safe mode.  I hope that this helps all of you.
George

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update warning!

2015-12-08 Thread George Brechman via Talk
Hello list members,
This is a warning to not update the Microsoft outlook for today.  I
downloaded and installed the windows update for this month, that consisted
of about 18 updates.  After installing and rebooting my windows 7 computer,
my windows outlook 10 started in safe mode.  I had to go to the Microsoft
disability phone line and they took over my computer to remove the update
and hide it until they fix the update later this month.  It is ok to install
all of the other updates, but do not install the outlook update or your
outlook will start in safe mode.  I hope that this helps all of you.
George

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