[OpenStreetMap Serbia] Nove podloge
Pozdrav od hrvatskih mapera!
Američka institucija U.S. Geological Survey je objavila karte cijelog
područja bivše Jugoslavije pod public domain licencom, što znači da ih
možemo koristiti na Openstreetmap projektu. Izjava o licenci na slijedećem
linku:
http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/faq.html#3.html
Lista sa pdf-ovima ovdje:
https://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/topo/former_yugoslavia/
Nažalost nisu skenirane sve karte, žuto su obojane regije sa podlogama:
http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/topo/former_yugoslavia/index_map.jpg
Naš član dodobas je geokodirao karte i stavili smo ih na server kojeg
održava korisnik hbogner na Geodetskom fakultetu u Zagrebu.
Zato vas pozivamo da koristite te podloge kako bi popunili Openstreetmap
projekt sa što više korisnih podataka!
Predlažem da se za elemente ucrtane preko tih podloga koristi tag *source=U.S.
Defense Mapping Agency *kako bi lako našli što je mapirano sa tim kartama.
Kako ih koristiti?
U JOSMu:
Kliknuti na Edit Preferences... WMS TMS + (Plus dolje desno) TMS
Menu name= *U.S. Defense* osm-hr
TMS URL= http://tms.osm-hr.org/1.0.0/all_ustopo/{zoom}/{x}/{y}.png
Screenshot: http://
http://osm-hr.org/josm.pngosm-hr.org/josmhttp://osm-hr.org/josm.png
.png http://osm-hr.org/josm.png
U Potlatchu:
Kliknuti na Background Edit...
I napraviti novi upis:
Name= *U.S. Defense* osm-hr
URL= http://tms.osm-hr.org/1.0.0/all_ustopo/$z/$x/$y.png
Screenshot: *http://osm-hr.org/potlach.jpg* http://osm-hr.org/potlach.jpg
Ako ima problema, javite nam se!
http://osm-hr.org/
P.S.
Pripazite na loše podatke koji će se zbog promjene licence brisati 1.
Aprila. Više o tome na wiki stranici o Remapiranju:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Hr:Remapping
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Re: [OpenStreetMap Serbia] Nove podloge
kako je nekada bilo teško doći do topografskih karti :) (sećam se
izviđačkih dana, koristili smo karte iz sedamdesetih)
odlična vest i puno hvala na obaveštenju, i svima zaslužnim za
geokodiranje i hostovanje istih.
pominjanje dodobasa mi definitivno uliva poverenje u upotrebljivost
istih. puno pozdrava i njemu lično.
sigurno će značiti za ucrtavanje manjih naselja kojih nemamo na našoj mapi.
@ostali
sada možemo da pregledamo okoline naših gradova i proverimo šta
nedostaje, mnogo je lakše sa ovakvim kartama.
2012/1/17 Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com:
Pozdrav od hrvatskih mapera!
Američka institucija U.S. Geological Survey je objavila karte cijelog
područja bivše Jugoslavije pod public domain licencom, što znači da ih
možemo koristiti na Openstreetmap projektu. Izjava o licenci na slijedećem
linku:
http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/faq.html#3.html
Lista sa pdf-ovima ovdje:
https://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/topo/former_yugoslavia/
Nažalost nisu skenirane sve karte, žuto su obojane regije sa podlogama:
http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/topo/former_yugoslavia/index_map.jpg
Naš član dodobas je geokodirao karte i stavili smo ih na server kojeg
održava korisnik hbogner na Geodetskom fakultetu u Zagrebu.
Zato vas pozivamo da koristite te podloge kako bi popunili Openstreetmap
projekt sa što više korisnih podataka!
Predlažem da se za elemente ucrtane preko tih podloga koristi tag
source=U.S. Defense Mapping Agency kako bi lako našli što je mapirano sa tim
kartama.
Kako ih koristiti?
U JOSMu:
Kliknuti na Edit Preferences... WMS TMS + (Plus dolje desno) TMS
Menu name= U.S. Defense osm-hr
TMS URL= http://tms.osm-hr.org/1.0.0/all_ustopo/{zoom}/{x}/{y}.png
Screenshot: http://osm-hr.org/josm.png
U Potlatchu:
Kliknuti na Background Edit...
I napraviti novi upis:
Name= U.S. Defense osm-hr
URL= http://tms.osm-hr.org/1.0.0/all_ustopo/$z/$x/$y.png
Screenshot: http://osm-hr.org/potlach.jpg
Ako ima problema, javite nam se!
http://osm-hr.org/
P.S.
Pripazite na loše podatke koji će se zbog promjene licence brisati 1.
Aprila. Više o tome na wiki stranici o Remapiranju:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Hr:Remapping
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Drago mi je da ima odgovora! Slovenci se još nisu javili :) A BiH nema
nikakav forum niti mailing listu. Morat ćemo slati poruke članovima.
Nisam još napisao da pomak kod pozadina zna biti i veći od 50 metara, ali
zato se ona koristi gdje nema drugih izvora.
Pozdrav,
Janko
2012/1/17 Marko Djordjevic marko.homolud...@gmail.com
kako je nekada bilo teško doći do topografskih karti :) (sećam se
izviđačkih dana, koristili smo karte iz sedamdesetih)
odlična vest i puno hvala na obaveštenju, i svima zaslužnim za
geokodiranje i hostovanje istih.
pominjanje dodobasa mi definitivno uliva poverenje u upotrebljivost
istih. puno pozdrava i njemu lično.
sigurno će značiti za ucrtavanje manjih naselja kojih nemamo na našoj mapi.
@ostali
sada možemo da pregledamo okoline naših gradova i proverimo šta
nedostaje, mnogo je lakše sa ovakvim kartama.
2012/1/17 Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com:
Pozdrav od hrvatskih mapera!
Američka institucija U.S. Geological Survey je objavila karte cijelog
područja bivše Jugoslavije pod public domain licencom, što znači da ih
možemo koristiti na Openstreetmap projektu. Izjava o licenci na
slijedećem
linku:
http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/faq.html#3.html
Lista sa pdf-ovima ovdje:
https://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/topo/former_yugoslavia/
Nažalost nisu skenirane sve karte, žuto su obojane regije sa podlogama:
http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/topo/former_yugoslavia/index_map.jpg
Naš član dodobas je geokodirao karte i stavili smo ih na server kojeg
održava korisnik hbogner na Geodetskom fakultetu u Zagrebu.
Zato vas pozivamo da koristite te podloge kako bi popunili Openstreetmap
projekt sa što više korisnih podataka!
Predlažem da se za elemente ucrtane preko tih podloga koristi tag
source=U.S. Defense Mapping Agency kako bi lako našli što je mapirano sa
tim
kartama.
Kako ih koristiti?
U JOSMu:
Kliknuti na Edit Preferences... WMS TMS + (Plus dolje desno) TMS
Menu name= U.S. Defense osm-hr
TMS URL= http://tms.osm-hr.org/1.0.0/all_ustopo/{zoom}/{x}/{y}.png
Screenshot: http://osm-hr.org/josm.png
U Potlatchu:
Kliknuti na Background Edit...
I napraviti novi upis:
Name= U.S. Defense osm-hr
URL= http://tms.osm-hr.org/1.0.0/all_ustopo/$z/$x/$y.png
Screenshot: http://osm-hr.org/potlach.jpg
Ako ima problema, javite nam se!
http://osm-hr.org/
P.S.
Pripazite na loše podatke koji će se zbog promjene licence brisati 1.
Aprila. Više o tome na wiki stranici o Remapiranju:
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[Talk-hr] zbrljao sam, kako napraviti povrat na prijasnje stanje?
Priznajem zbrljao sam ;) Malo sam se previše opustio pa sam previše odjednom pokušao napraviti i naravno Murphy se umiješao i sada imam jedan changeset koji bih htio poništiti. Pokušao sam sam na fedori pokrenuti revert perl skripet no izbacuje mi greške :( valent@fusion revert]$ perl revert.pl 10333257 Use of uninitialized value $current_cs_or_comment in pattern match (m//) at revert.pl line 45. Use of uninitialized value $comment in string eq at revert.pl line 52. PUT changeset/create osm version='0.6'changesettag k=comment v=reverting changeset 10333257 //changeset/osm GET http://api06.dev.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/changeset/10333257/download... 404 Not Found (1b) changeset 10333257 cannot be retrieved: 404 Not Found Ima li tko ideju kako mogu poništiti ovaj changeset: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/10333257 Hvala unaprijed, Valent. -- follow me - www.twitter.com/valentt http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, wireless, scuba, linuxmce smart home, zwave ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
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Isprobao sam, i sve pohvale na slaganju podloga, super su! ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [Talk-hr] zbrljao sam, kako napraviti povrat na prijasnje stanje?
Ja sam malo koristio JOSM-ov plugin, Reverter se zove čini mi se, upišeš broj changeseta, i onda ako želiš cijeli changeset revertati, staviš revert fully, i to bi trebalo biti to. Naravno, ovisi što si radio, ali ako sam dobro skužio, ti si obrisao gomilu drveća, tojest točkica. To bi trebalo biti jednostavno, jer nisu spojeni na ništa postojeće.. Janjko 2012/1/17 valent.turko...@gmail.com valent.turko...@gmail.com Priznajem zbrljao sam ;) Malo sam se previše opustio pa sam previše odjednom pokušao napraviti i naravno Murphy se umiješao i sada imam jedan changeset koji bih htio poništiti. Pokušao sam sam na fedori pokrenuti revert perl skripet no izbacuje mi greške :( valent@fusion revert]$ perl revert.pl 10333257 Use of uninitialized value $current_cs_or_comment in pattern match (m//) at revert.pl line 45. Use of uninitialized value $comment in string eq at revert.pl line 52. PUT changeset/create osm version='0.6'changesettag k=comment v=reverting changeset 10333257 //changeset/osm GET http://api06.dev.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/changeset/10333257/download... 404 Not Found (1b) changeset 10333257 cannot be retrieved: 404 Not Found Ima li tko ideju kako mogu poništiti ovaj changeset: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/10333257 Hvala unaprijed, Valent. -- follow me - www.twitter.com/valentt http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, wireless, scuba, linuxmce smart home, zwave ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
[talk-ph] WorldBank and Google MapMaker partnership
Warning, rant below: Google and WorldBank just announced a partnership to provide government agencies with Google MapMaker data [0 and 1]. While I applaud WorldBank's recognition of the value of map crowdsourcing [2] particularly on developing countries where public access to geographic data is limited, I find it disturbing that they forged partnership in a company where crowdsourced information is locked-in and not entirely free (as in speech). Further though from Adena here [3]. [0] http://google-latlong.blogspot.com/2012/01/world-bank-and-google-join-forces-to.html [1] http://www.directionsmag.com/pressreleases/world-bank-and-google-announce-map-maker-collaboration/226293 [2] http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/14/opinion/empowering-citizen-cartographers.html?_r=1 [3] http://apb.directionsmag.com/entry/google-gives-world-bank-map-maker-data-distribution-privileges/226296?utm_source=twitterfeedutm_medium=twitter -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] cheap and reliable field data collection equipment
Dear all, A friend working with an LGU is looking at some field data collection equipment. This project will use OSM data as basemap. For field data collection, they want a device that can: - collect gps tracks so that they can upload traces in OSM - use OSM layers - collect geotagged photos and related information for their own internal database - data can be saved offline and then sync upon returning to the office They have limited budget therefore a dedicated field GPS along with its bells and whistles is not the best solution. Some options I can think of: - data logger and digital cam - photos can be synchronized with gps tracks, has long battery life suitable for long fieldwork - a cheap droid phone - all in one device for fieldnotes, phototagging and gps tracklogging, limited battery life. Jim mentioned a while ago Cherry mobile cosmo [0]. @Jim, based on your experience, do still suggest we look at this phone? Other suggestions welcome. [0] http://technoodling.net/cherry-mobile-cosmo-review/ -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[Talk-si] Nove podloge
---(English version at the bottom of e-mail!)---
Pozdrav od hrvatskih mapera!
Američka institucija U.S. Geological Survey je objavila karte cijelog
područja bivše Jugoslavije pod public domain licencom, što znači da ih
možemo koristiti na Openstreetmap projektu. Izjava o licenci na slijedećem
linku:
http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/faq.html#3.html
Lista sa pdf-ovima ovdje:
https://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/topo/former_yugoslavia/
Nažalost nisu skenirane sve karte, žuto su obojane regije sa podlogama:
http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/topo/former_yugoslavia/index_map.jpg
Vidi se da Hrvatska i Slovenija nemaju baš puno, ali treba i ovo
iskoristiti.
Naš član dodobas je geokodirao karte i stavili smo ih na server kojeg
održava korisnik hbogner na Geodetskom fakultetu u Zagrebu.
Zato vas pozivamo da koristite te podloge kako bi popunili Openstreetmap
projekt sa što više korisnih podataka!
Predlažem da se za elemente ucrtane preko tih podloga koristi tag *source=U.S.
Defense Mapping Agency *kako bi lako našli što je mapirano sa tim kartama.
Kako ih koristiti?
U JOSMu:
Kliknuti na Edit Preferences... WMS TMS + (Plus dolje desno) TMS
Menu name= *U.S. Defense* osm-hr
TMS URL= http://tms.osm-hr.org/1.0.0/all_ustopo/{zoom}/{x}/{y}.png
Screenshot: http://
http://osm-hr.org/josm.pngosm-hr.org/josmhttp://osm-hr.org/josm.png
.png http://osm-hr.org/josm.png
U Potlatchu:
Kliknuti na Background Edit...
I napraviti novi upis:
Name= *U.S. Defense* osm-hr
URL= http://tms.osm-hr.org/1.0.0/all_ustopo/$z/$x/$y.png
Screenshot: *http://osm-hr.org/potlach.jpg* http://osm-hr.org/potlach.jpg
Ako ima problema, javite nam se!
http://osm-hr.org/
P.S.
Pripazite na loše podatke koji će se zbog promjene licence brisati 1.
Aprila. Više o tome na wiki stranici o Remapiranju:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Hr:Remapping
*English*
*New **imagery*
Hi from croatia mappers!
The U.S. Geological Survey has made public maps of the whole Ex Yugoslavia
under the Public Domain license, which means we can use them in the
Openstreetmap project. Statement about the license on the following link:
http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/faq.html#3.html
List of maps in pdf format here:
https://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/topo/former_yugoslavia/
Unfortunately, not all maps are scanned, the yellow areas are available:
http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/topo/former_yugoslavia/index_map.jpg
It's obvious that Croatia and Slovenia don't have much, but it should be
used.
Our member dodobas geocoded the maps and we put them on the server
maintained by user hbogner on the Faculty of Geodesy in Zagreb.
We are inviting you to use the imagery to fill the Openstreetmap with as
much usefull data possible!
I suggest you use the tag *source=U.S. Defense Mapping Agency *for the
elements drawn over these backgrounds so we can easily find what is drawn
with these maps.
How to use them?
In JOSM:
Go to Edit Preferences... WMS TMS + (Plus sign lower right) TMS
Menu name= USGS osm-hr
TMS URL = http://tms.osm-hr.org/1.0.0/all_ustopo/{zoom}/{x}/{y}.png
Screenshot: http://
http://osm-hr.org/josm.pngosm-hr.org/josmhttp://osm-hr.org/josm.png
.png http://osm-hr.org/josm.png
In Potlatch:
Go to Background Edit...
Make a new line:
Name= USGS osm-hr
URL= http://tms.osm-hr.org/1.0.0/all_ustopo/$z/$x/$y.png
Screenshot: *http://osm-hr.org/potlach.jpg* http://osm-hr.org/potlach.jpg
If there are any problems, contact us!
http://osm-hr.org/
P.S. Watch out for bad data that is going to be erased because of the
license change on April 1. More about that on the page about Remapping:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Remapping
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[OSM-legal-talk] Ulf Möller remembered
I am deeply shocked this morning to learn of the murder of friend Ulf. A more formal remembrance is being prepared and I have copied some news links below, but I hope you will not mind me saying some personal simple words here as I feel it is the appropriate place. As you may know, Ulf was an extremely active member of the License Working Group while we gave input to the final draft of the Open Database License and while we made the contributor terms. In a group that actually achieves things, each person often has an informal role. Ulf acted on always making sure that the detail matched his and our conscience. He often stuck to his guns on something that we just weren't getting ... insistently but courteously. The subsequent discussion meant that we came up with something better, often much better. Whether the documents finally sink or swim, I think Ulf has contributed something very concrete to the evolution of Open Data IP. Even the contributor terms are now going to be used outside the OpenStreetMap project. Ulf and I also felt that the OSM Foundation was too UK-focused and there was not enough broad European involvement. I was very pleased when he decided to run for and succeeded in joining the board. Today, membership is very mixed nationality and board nationalities change from year to year. Just as it should be. Some continents are still unrepresented, but that will change and I am sure he and I will be very happy. Folks are many faceted, and I am looking only at a small part of Ulf's life, but to me these two things are part of his lasting legacy. To a decent and intelligent guy. Mike Michael Collinson http://www.ndr.de/regional/schleswig-holstein/trittau115.html http://www.ln-online.de/lokales/stormarn/3339992/die-polizei-sucht-ulf-moeller-aus-trittau http://www.mz-web.de/servlet/ContentServer?pagename=ksta/pageatype=ksArtikelaid=1321007898341 http://www.mz-web.de/servlet/ContentServer?pagename=ksta/pageatype=ksArtikelaid=1321007898341 http://www.mz-web.de/servlet/ContentServer?pagename=ksta/pageatype=ksArtikelaid=1326456860424openMenu=1012902958704calledPageId=1012902958704listid=1018348861894 http://www.mz-web.de/servlet/ContentServer?pagename=ksta/pageatype=ksArtikelaid=1326456860424openMenu=1012902958704calledPageId=1012902958704listid=1018348861894 ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM downtime as protest against SOPA?
If you have been thinking about ODBL and its
function in OSM, the ultimate conclusion is that
you need to support SOPA.
OSM want to have its contents protected (to a minimum, I admit)
by a license (CC-BY-SA or OBL), principally based on the legal system of
defense of intellectual property. SOPA is the just the right thing
to do if you want to apply intellectual property rights to
the internet !
OSM:
Defending IP when it suits us, and reject if it attacks us ?
When do we finally understand that the whole
legal system around intellectual property and copyrights
is principally against free data and free speech, and that includes
CC-BY-SA and it includes all other licenses but PD ??
Gert
-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: Matthias Meißer [mailto:dig...@arcor.de]
Verzonden: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 8:53 AM
Aan: Kate Chapman
CC: talk@openstreetmap.org
Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk] OSM downtime as protest against SOPA?
I agree with Kate, that we shouldn't stop any HOT action by the demonstration.
Greying out the U.S. with a here was once a land known as 'land of the free'
would be a real cool thing, as its a kind of protest thats just possible for
OSM. But I absolutly understand, that it's quiet hard to change that within the
remaining time :/
bye
Matthias
Am 17.01.2012 00:09, schrieb Kate Chapman:
As HOT is working on the ground in Haiti and Indonesia this week and
additionally helping with a flood response in the Philippines I would
suggest we don't do that. On Wednesday there are workshops going on
in the St Marc area of Haiti introducing people in that area to OSM
for the first time.
It is true there has been downtime during previous HOT missions and we
have ways of getting around it I don't think it helps us move forward
with people using/updating OpenStreetMap.
Maybe a banner or something instead?
As a U.S. voter I'm sorry about the whole SOPA mess.
Best,
-Kate
2012/1/17 Matthias Meißerdig...@arcor.de:
Hi,
first of all, sorry for bringing political discussions to the community, as
I always understand OSM as a political neutral space (we do creating maps,
nothing else).
But some of you might noticed that _Wikipedia will make a downtime_ at
Wednesday as a form of protest against the Stop Piracy Act (SOPA)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SOPA
As this law endangers the creation and exchange of free material, too
('shutdown OSM/jamendo/.../ as it seems that they copied my property!'), I
would like to ask, if we might support the wikipedia action?
I have no idea, if this could be technicaly done by the Admins, or what kind
of protest (complete shutdown, serving demo tiles, locking database, ... a
banner) would be accepted by the most of us. I just like to notify you, and
maybe start a discussion.
thanks
Matthias
(user:!i!)
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Re: [OSM-talk] howto reverting one changeset?
On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 5:27 PM, valent.turko...@gmail.com valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 6:47 PM, Carsten Gerlach daswaldh...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, Am Sonntag, 8. Januar 2012 schrieb valent.turko...@gmail.com: Any idea how to revert back this changeset I messed up: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/10333257 Have a look at the JOSM reverter plugin http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Plugins/Reverter Greetings, Carsten Yes I have, it just lock-up josm and doesn't respond :( Maybe somebody else can try out to revert my changeset and have more luck than I? Please suggest any other ideas you have. Cheers, Valent. Has anybody used revert scripts recently? Are they broken for others also? How can I revert this changeset? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OrbView-3 is public domain
Anyone tried processing those imges? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping guidelines (was: Re: what is happening here - potlatch oddness with orange highlights?)
2012/1/17 Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl: On 2012-01-16 23:27, Robin Paulson wrote: http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?lat=-36.878407lon=174.741523zoom=19 the landuse polygon has an orange highlight on it, why does it do that? Just a hint on mapping (not to Robin in particular): I think it is unnecessary to cut up landuse=residential areas just because there is a road there. The road itself is as much part of the residential area as the ground the houses stand on. IMHO there is no reason not to make the landuse=residential be contiguous across multiple roads. I disagree. Public roads generally are a different landuse (i.e. they are roads). Smaller landuse entities also are much easier to refine later. And yet another point: landuse mapped like in this example conveys more information because it indicates the border of the private properties. cheers, Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] howto reverting one changeset?
On 01/17/2012 09:59 AM, valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 5:27 PM, valent.turko...@gmail.com valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 6:47 PM, Carsten Gerlach daswaldh...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, Am Sonntag, 8. Januar 2012 schrieb valent.turko...@gmail.com: Any idea how to revert back this changeset I messed up: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/10333257 Have a look at the JOSM reverter plugin http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Plugins/Reverter Greetings, Carsten Yes I have, it just lock-up josm and doesn't respond :( Maybe somebody else can try out to revert my changeset and have more luck than I? Please suggest any other ideas you have. Cheers, Valent. Has anybody used revert scripts recently? Are they broken for others also? How can I revert this changeset? JOSM reverter plugin is used frequently and should work without problems. If not, please send a bug report. http://josm.openstreetmap.de/newticket Paul ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] howto reverting one changeset?
Paul Hartmann wrote: JOSM reverter plugin is used frequently and should work without problems. It worked for me the last time that I used it (last week I think). I'll try and revert http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/10333257 and post success or failure back here. Cheers, Andy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] howto reverting one changeset?
OK, done. What I did was: Check from looking at the changeset that at least some objects haven't been reverted or modified already. Double-click on josm-tested.jar (I used the one that I had from 2nd September 2011 since I know that worked last week) Despite the prompt I didn't update JOSM or any plugins at this stage. Download some data (any data) so that the history menu entry is not greyed out. Click History / Revert Changeset 10333257 Fully revert / revert Say yes to download objects Upload data. Review warnings - there's nothing iffy there, so I'll continue the upload. Use changeset comment Revert changeset 10333257 at the request of its author Close JOSM Then in OSM browse to original changeset and that check some of the data has been reverted. Valent, What versions were you having a problem with and at what stage did JOSM lock up? Cheers, Andy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OrbView-3 is public domain
hbogner writes: Anyone tried processing those imges? i did. Specific question? Interesting would be if the images are served from an existing TMS. What about Mapquest Open Aerial? That would save us from downloading 200Mb per pattern. In Thailand there are nearly 800 patches available, some overlap and differ in date and cloud cover. Downloading all would mean nearly 160GB. Recompressing the images from tiff into jpg reduces the individual file size from ~400MB down to ~15MB. Still you would not want to open a 200 megapixel image as a background layer on a netbook. Stephan ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] Mapping guidelines
2012/1/17 Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com: On 1/17/2012 8:10 AM, Simone Saviolo wrote: I'm not suggesting either of these. But a single chunk of houses is clearly all residential, whether it's the size of a few lots or a huge subdivision. +1. public streets are not part of it. Have a look how others deal with this at a scale of 1:2000 (zoom 18). Splitting it at roads gives no benefit and complicates editing greatly. This is just ridiculous: http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?lat=35.323225lon=-119.077089zoom=18 how does that complicate anything? Connecting roads to landuses and other areas complicates editing greatly. A mapping like the above eases editing and is more precise then a huge landuse-polygon. I don't find anything ridiculous in this. cheers, Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OrbView-3 is public domain
hbogner wrote: Anyone tried processing those images? I've translated a page from the Russian GIS community wiki: http://wiki.gis-lab.info/w/Orbview3_Orthorectification What is not said there, you can easily use the result of those transformationg in JOSM by processing the resulting GeoTIFF with gdal2tiles python script (usually supplied with gdal). IZ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] Mapping guidelines
Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2012/1/17 Nathan Edgars IInerou...@gmail.com: On 1/17/2012 8:10 AM, Simone Saviolo wrote: I'm not suggesting either of these. But a single chunk of houses is clearly all residential, whether it's the size of a few lots or a huge subdivision. +1. public streets are not part of it. Have a look how others deal with this at a scale of 1:2000 (zoom 18). Splitting it at roads gives no benefit and complicates editing greatly. This is just ridiculous: http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?lat=35.323225lon=-119.077089zoom=18 how does that complicate anything? Connecting roads to landuses and other areas complicates editing greatly. A mapping like the above eases editing and is more precise then a huge landuse-polygon. I don't find anything ridiculous in this. While on the whole I agree, it does get a little tricky where the roads are perhaps not so neatly delineated. http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=52.0732lon=-1.82203zoom=17layers=M still needs a bit more work, but while some of the 'service roads' are just that, others are actually tarmac for the full area between builds, with some areas of it being used as parking, and it is describing these differences that impinges on this fine detailing of 'industrial area' ... we still have to improve on the micro-mapping guide lines ... -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk// Firebird - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] Mapping guidelines
On 17 Jan 2012, at 13:37, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2012/1/17 Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com: On 1/17/2012 8:10 AM, Simone Saviolo wrote: I'm not suggesting either of these. But a single chunk of houses is clearly all residential, whether it's the size of a few lots or a huge subdivision. +1. public streets are not part of it. Have a look how others deal with this at a scale of 1:2000 (zoom 18). Aren't they? Why then do we tag them as residential roads then? Could it be because they're part of the residential area? Splitting it at roads gives no benefit and complicates editing greatly. This is just ridiculous: http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?lat=35.323225lon=-119.077089zoom=18 how does that complicate anything? Connecting roads to landuses and other areas complicates editing greatly. A mapping like the above eases editing and is more precise then a huge landuse-polygon. I don't find anything ridiculous in this. It complicates things greatly because you have to draw a much more complex polygon that goes around every single road on the map. Worse, editing that road then becomes a case of editing the landuse areas around it too to make them follow the new road. Ultimately though, this gets back to the same old problem that we have a disparity between how we tag roads and how we tag everything else. For pretty much everything we make an area, and label what it is, for roads, we make a single way. In my book, until we're making areas for roads (and possibly even then), the residential area extends all the way across the road. Bob ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OrbView-3 is public domain
-- Messaggio inoltrato -- Da: Maurizio Napolitano napoo...@gmail.com Data: 13/gen/2012 10:52 Oggetto: Re: [OSM-talk] OrbView-3 is public domain A: hbogner hbog...@gmail.com On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 11:49, hbogner hbog...@gmail.com wrote: Here is the final reply form USGS :D Nice! This is a very good news. Can you ask USGS to change the attachment on the downloaded files? I just downloaded some OrbView files and, i found, in attachment, a zip file with the name unrestricted licesense.zip. Inside there is a text file with this text This sounds different to the public domain - This is a Unrestricted license as described below. GeoEye Data Unrestricted License IMPORTANT READ CAREFULLY BEFORE USING ANY OF THE GEOEYE DATA BEING TRANSMITTED HEREWITH OR CONTAINED ON THE ENCLOSED TAPE(S) OR CD-ROM(S). 1. Notice. ORBIMAGE Inc. and/or ORBIMAGE SI Opco Inc., doing business as GeoEye (GeoEye), hereby license the GeoEye unprocessed sensor data and imagery, imagery services, imagery-derived products and imagery support data transmitted herewith or enclosed (collectively, the GeoEye Data) to you only on the condition that you accept all of the terms and conditions contained in this end user license (the License). By using any of the GeoEye Data transmitted herewith or contained on the enclosed tape(s) or CD-ROM(s), you agree to be bound by the terms and conditions of this License. If you do not agree to these terms and conditions, GeoEye will not license the GeoEye Data to you, and you should not use the GeoEye Data transmitted herewith or you should not open this envelope. In such case, promptly return the GeoEye Data transmitted herewith or the unopened envelope and its contents to GeoEye located at 21700 Atlantic Boulevard, Dulles, Virginia 20166, U.S.A. 2.U.S. Government License. Your rights to use the GeoEye Data granted under this License are expressly made subject to the rights granted to GeoEye by the U.S. Government, and to the obligations and limitations placed on GeoEye pursuant to the Land Remote Sensing Policy Act of 1992, as amended, and the U.S. Department of Commerce regulations promulgated thereunder, with respect to the use and distribution of GeoEye Data sourced from remote sensing satellites. 3. Ownership. This is an end user license agreement and NOT an agreement for sale. GeoEye and its licensors continue to maintain exclusive ownership of the GeoEye Data and copies of the GeoEye Data provided hereunder or contained in this envelope and all other copies that you are authorized to make by this License and any and all intellectual property rights in and to the GeoEye Data. Your rights to use the GeoEye Data are specified in this License, and GeoEye retains all rights not expressly granted to you by this License. Nothing in this License constitutes a waiver of GeoEye's rights under U.S. copyright law or any other federal or state law pertaining to the GeoEye Data and you shall maintain and display GeoEye's copyright notice on the GeoEye Data that you use. 4.Permitted Uses. You are granted a non-transferable, non-exclusive right to use the GeoEye Data as follows: (a)On computer systems owned or leased by you, provided that such use is solely for internal purposes and the GeoEye Data may not be accessed by third-parties; (b)You may incorporate any GeoEye Data or representation thereof within any data, documents or products, provided that such data, documents or products are used solely for internal purposes; and (c)You may copy the GeoEye Data to the extent necessary to exercise the license granted hereunder for your internal use. All rights and uses of the GeoEye Data not expressly granted by this License are reserved by GeoEye. 5. Restrictions. You shall not, without prior written permission from GeoEye: (a)Use, copy, display, modify, create derivative works, merge or transfer copies of the GeoEye Data except as expressly provided in this Agreement; or (b)Sublicense, sell, rent or lease the GeoEye Data or otherwise transfer or assign the GeoEye Data to any third-party; or (c)Alter or remove any copyright notice or proprietary legend contained in or on the GeoEye Data and that any embodiment of the GeoEye Data permitted under this License will contain a notice similar to the following: GeoEye Data is owned by GeoEye, Inc. All rights are reserved by GeoEye, Inc. 6.Limited Warranty and Return Policy; Disclaimers. (a)For a period of thirty (30) days from the date you received the GeoEye Data, or acquired this envelope and its contents, GeoEye warrants that the media upon which the GeoEye Data resides will be free from defects in materials and workmanship under normal use. If the media fails to conform to this warranty, you may, as your sole and exclusive remedy, obtain a replacement free of charge if you return the defective media to GeoEye. GeoEye Data may not be returned to GeoEye except as provided herein. You may not retain any copies of
Re: [OSM-talk] OrbView-3 is public domain
Ilya Zverev writes: I've translated a page from the Russian GIS community wiki: http://wiki.gis-lab.info/w/Orbview3_Orthorectification great. Thanks for sharing. What would be the best way to share these files? Convert them into metatiles and let a system already serving tiles using mod_tile also serve these? Or have a specialized software like geoserver running? Stephan ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OrbView-3 is public domain
apparently some manual work will be needed, some locations have several distinct images from different dates and a lot of the pictures are partly or completely useless due to cloud cover. cheers, Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OrbView-3 is public domain
Le 17/01/2012 12:04, hbogner a écrit : Anyone tried processing those imges? Hi, It happens I had just sent a message this morning to the HOT mailing list about one of these images (of Syria) made available as TMS: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/hot/2012-January/001373.html You'll likely be interested by Dražen's answer. Thank you for giving us the info. Best wishes, Jean-Guilhem -- gpg 0x5939EAE2 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OrbView-3 is public domain
I'll ask them some time later this week, but I think those are already ziped files and that their email outdates those old licences. It would be nice form someone more into legal stuff to join whit his opinion. Think how USGS would like to extract 18 zip files to change one txt file, and ziping them back jus for someone from europe asking them :D Regards On 17.1.2012. 17:52, Maurizio Napolitano wrote: -- Messaggio inoltrato -- Da: Maurizio Napolitano napoo...@gmail.com mailto:napoo...@gmail.com Data: 13/gen/2012 10:52 Oggetto: Re: [OSM-talk] OrbView-3 is public domain A: hbogner hbog...@gmail.com mailto:hbog...@gmail.com On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 11:49, hbogner hbog...@gmail.com mailto:hbog...@gmail.com wrote: Here is the final reply form USGS :D Nice! This is a very good news. Can you ask USGS to change the attachment on the downloaded files? I just downloaded some OrbView files and, i found, in attachment, a zip file with the name unrestricted licesense.zip. Inside there is a text file with this text This sounds different to the public domain - This is a Unrestricted license as described below. GeoEye Data Unrestricted License IMPORTANT READ CAREFULLY BEFORE USING ANY OF THE GEOEYE DATA BEING TRANSMITTED HEREWITH OR CONTAINED ON THE ENCLOSED TAPE(S) OR CD-ROM(S). 1. Notice. ORBIMAGE Inc. and/or ORBIMAGE SI Opco Inc., doing business as GeoEye (GeoEye), hereby license the GeoEye unprocessed sensor data and imagery, imagery services, imagery-derived products and imagery support data transmitted herewith or enclosed (collectively, the GeoEye Data) to you only on the condition that you accept all of the terms and conditions contained in this end user license (the License). By using any of the GeoEye Data transmitted herewith or contained on the enclosed tape(s) or CD-ROM(s), you agree to be bound by the terms and conditions of this License. If you do not agree to these terms and conditions, GeoEye will not license the GeoEye Data to you, and you should not use the GeoEye Data transmitted herewith or you should not open this envelope. In such case, promptly return the GeoEye Data transmitted herewith or the unopened envelope and its contents to GeoEye located at 21700 Atlantic Boulevard, Dulles, Virginia 20166, U.S.A. 2.U.S. Government License. Your rights to use the GeoEye Data granted under this License are expressly made subject to the rights granted to GeoEye by the U.S. Government, and to the obligations and limitations placed on GeoEye pursuant to the Land Remote Sensing Policy Act of 1992, as amended, and the U.S. Department of Commerce regulations promulgated thereunder, with respect to the use and distribution of GeoEye Data sourced from remote sensing satellites. 3. Ownership. This is an end user license agreement and NOT an agreement for sale. GeoEye and its licensors continue to maintain exclusive ownership of the GeoEye Data and copies of the GeoEye Data provided hereunder or contained in this envelope and all other copies that you are authorized to make by this License and any and all intellectual property rights in and to the GeoEye Data. Your rights to use the GeoEye Data are specified in this License, and GeoEye retains all rights not expressly granted to you by this License. Nothing in this License constitutes a waiver of GeoEye's rights under U.S. copyright law or any other federal or state law pertaining to the GeoEye Data and you shall maintain and display GeoEye's copyright notice on the GeoEye Data that you use. 4.Permitted Uses. You are granted a non-transferable, non-exclusive right to use the GeoEye Data as follows: (a)On computer systems owned or leased by you, provided that such use is solely for internal purposes and the GeoEye Data may not be accessed by third-parties; (b)You may incorporate any GeoEye Data or representation thereof within any data, documents or products, provided that such data, documents or products are used solely for internal purposes; and (c)You may copy the GeoEye Data to the extent necessary to exercise the license granted hereunder for your internal use. All rights and uses of the GeoEye Data not expressly granted by this License are reserved by GeoEye. 5. Restrictions. You shall not, without prior written permission from GeoEye: (a)Use, copy, display, modify, create derivative works, merge or transfer copies of the GeoEye Data except as expressly provided in this Agreement; or (b)Sublicense, sell, rent or lease the GeoEye Data or otherwise transfer or assign the GeoEye Data to any third-party; or (c)Alter or remove any copyright notice or proprietary legend contained in or on the GeoEye Data and that any embodiment of the GeoEye Data permitted under this License will contain a notice similar to the following: GeoEye Data is owned by GeoEye, Inc. All rights are reserved by GeoEye, Inc. 6.Limited Warranty and Return Policy; Disclaimers. (a)For a period of thirty (30) days from the
Re: [OSM-talk] OrbView-3 is public domain
Ilya thx for the translation :D Martin, yes, there are a lot of cloudy images, but there are also a lot of good images, here's a kml with cloud coverage for region over Croatia: http://data.osm-hr.org/orbview-3/USGS-Orbview-cover.kml As it can be seen there's almost 70% of all coverage with 0-10% cloud coverage, there are 2 large groups of images that cover areas that don't have bing, and thats, great, we'll have more to map. It would be great if we all cooperate to solve georeferencing faster. In our group Drazen is the most experienced with that :D On 17.1.2012. 18:21, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: apparently some manual work will be needed, some locations have several distinct images from different dates and a lot of the pictures are partly or completely useless due to cloud cover. cheers, Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OrbView-3 is public domain
Hi, thx, I already know abouth Dražen's efforts :D But now I found out that more people are trying the same thing, and now we can all cooperate. On 17.1.2012. 19:25, Jean-Guilhem Cailton wrote: Hi, It happens I had just sent a message this morning to the HOT mailing list about one of these images (of Syria) made available as TMS: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/hot/2012-January/001373.html You'll likely be interested by Dražen's answer. Thank you for giving us the info. Best wishes, Jean-Guilhem ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] howto reverting one changeset?
Thanks Andy for helping, I had 4223 version of JOSM, that is the latest in Fedora RPM repository. When I started the plugin and gave it changeset it would just hang there, I left it that way for over 10 minutes then made a forceful close :( Valent. -- follow me - www.twitter.com/valentt http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, wireless, scuba, linuxmce smart home, zwave ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OrbView-3 is public domain
-- Messaggio inoltrato -- Da: Maurizio Napolitano napoo...@gmail.com Data: 17/gen/2012 20:02 Oggetto: Re: [OSM-talk] OrbView-3 is public domain A: hbogner hbog...@gmail.com thanks for answer I understand the problem to unzip the file and change the license I think is more a problem of cpu time and storage than a hands made job In any case a general information on the home page can be useful and clear for the open data movement BTW: this is a great news! Thanks a lot and excuse me for my boring questions ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] howto reverting one changeset?
valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Andy for helping, I had 4223 version of JOSM, that is the latest in Fedora RPM repository. When I started the plugin and gave it changeset it would just hang there, I left it that way for over 10 minutes then made a forceful close :( Valent. Coincidentally, the last version of JOSM that I had around was 4223, and I've certainly used that for reverts in the past. That's on Windows with whatever version of Java was current 6 months ago rather than on Fedora, though. In order to find out what the problem is, I'd be tempted to separately download a recent version of JOSM and try to revert a small test changeset. If it fails, report the JOSM, plugin and Java versions and OS details to the JOSM people using the link previously provided. Cheers, Andy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Ulf Moeller (Möller) is dead
Ulf Moeller (Möller), a member of the OSM community is dead. This was posted in the german mailinglist today. I brought this up here in the english-speaking list, because many others know him as a former member of the OSM-board 2009/2010 and the license working group. Ulf was last seen alive on Monday 9th and murdered by a robbery during a journey to his parents to Trittau near Hamburg. His body was found in a forest near Dessau on Sunday 15th. His credit-cards have been stolen and his banking accounts plundered. Face-to-face I knew him from an OSM conference. I am shocked and so sorry. Tirkon http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Ulfm in German: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gis.openstreetmap.region.de/91029 http://www.mz-web.de/servlet/ContentServer?pagename=ksta/pageatype=ksArtikelaid=1321007898341 http://www.mz-web.de/servlet/ContentServer?pagename=ksta/pageatype=ksArtikelaid=1326456860424openMenu=1012902958704calledPageId=1012902958704listid=1018348861894 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Ulf Moeller (Möller) is dead
That is shocking and horrible. We should collect something to give to his family in the name of the osm community. Flowers at least. mike On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 9:42 PM, Tirkon tirko...@yahoo.de wrote: Ulf Moeller (Möller), a member of the OSM community is dead. This was posted in the german mailinglist today. I brought this up here in the english-speaking list, because many others know him as a former member of the OSM-board 2009/2010 and the license working group. Ulf was last seen alive on Monday 9th and murdered by a robbery during a journey to his parents to Trittau near Hamburg. His body was found in a forest near Dessau on Sunday 15th. His credit-cards have been stolen and his banking accounts plundered. Face-to-face I knew him from an OSM conference. I am shocked and so sorry. Tirkon http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Ulfm in German: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gis.openstreetmap.region.de/91029 http://www.mz-web.de/servlet/ContentServer?pagename=ksta/pageatype=ksArtikelaid=1321007898341 http://www.mz-web.de/servlet/ContentServer?pagename=ksta/pageatype=ksArtikelaid=1326456860424openMenu=1012902958704calledPageId=1012902958704listid=1018348861894 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping guidelines
On 17/01/2012 07:08, Maarten Deen wrote: Just a hint on mapping (not to Robin in particular): I think it is unnecessary to cut up landuse=residential areas just because there is a road there. The road itself is as much part of the residential area as the ground the houses stand on. IMHO there is no reason not to make the landuse=residential be contiguous across multiple roads. I disagree. People don't general live in the middle of the road (unless you're one of Monty Python's Four Yorkshiremen, of course). It's a matter of time patience. If you've got both, map it as it is here, if not, do it as Maarten suggests. The latter is OK, but the former is more accurate, I'm all for making OSM that. Personally I generally split it when there's two or more lanes in each direction, but have been known to do it when there a wide verges etc. Cheers Dave F. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Mixing OSM and FOSM data
Martin Koppenhoefer writes: In my perception legal-talk is not meant to be a ghetto but it is an attempt to sort things thematically to keep talk readable I just want to edit, and I want to know that I'm protected from some random deleting my edits just because they don't like somebody who touched my edits before or after me. -- --my blog is athttp://blog.russnelson.com Crynwr supports open source software 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315-600-8815 Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | Sheepdog ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Mixing OSM and FOSM data
Onsdag den 18. januar 2012 01:30:55 Russ Nelson skrev: Martin Koppenhoefer writes: In my perception legal-talk is not meant to be a ghetto but it is an attempt to sort things thematically to keep talk readable I just want to edit, and I want to know that I'm protected from some random deleting my edits just because they don't like somebody who touched my edits before or after me. In that case I would guess that contributing to OSM is not for you. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Meet the mappers!
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 08:21:24AM +0100, Floris Looijesteijn wrote: || En zondag 22 januari is er een nieuwjaarsborrel in Utrecht: || Er hebben zich al 17 mensen aangemeld via meetup, dus dat belooft wat :) || || http://www.meetup.com/OSGeoNL/events/46060652/ Ik kom 22 januari in het begin een uurtje, maar ik ga daarvoor geen meetup profile invullen. Ik blijf niet bezig. Ciao. Vincent. -- Vincent Zweije vinc...@zweije.nl | If you're flamed in a group you http://www.xs4all.nl/~zweije/ | don't read, does anybody get burnt? [Xhost should be taken out and shot] |-- Paul Tomblin on a.s.r. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl
Re: [Talk-de] Unterstützung bei Datenbereinigung gesucht
Hallo, jetzt muß ich mich doch nochmals melden. Wie versprochen habe ich gerade angefangen einige Places in Abschnitt 2 anzusehen. Und dabei stellen sich bei mir die Fragen: - Welchen Place-Typ soll man letztendlich bei einem Node und dem Way hernehmen? Ich möchte das nicht nur an Hand von einem Luftbild machen. Weiterhin ist davon auch die Art von Landuse abhängig, also residential oder farmyard. - Wie wurde denn der Wert min_diff berechnet. Ab welchem Wert sollte man denn dann den Node mehr in das Zentrum verschieben? Bevor diese offenen Punkte nicht geklärt sind, möchte ich nicht unbedingt hier rumeditieren. hike39 Am 16.01.2012 18:45, schrieb Michael Krämer: Hallo, ...aber da es in OSM kein Standardmodell gibt, habe ich die erste Tabelle nach bestem wissen so abgearbeitet, dass hinterher an der Fläche nur noch landuse=residential stand. Falls noch andere Tags vorhanden waren, sind die ans Node gewandert. Ach Du warst das - als ich mir die Daten ansehen wollte, ist mir das erst aufgefallen, dass man das ja unterschiedlich auffassen kann. Eigentlich wollte ich ja nur ein paar von den Dingern abarbeiten... Der Seite im Wiki nach, wurden ja wohl gerade die Orte herausgesucht, bei denen Node und Fläche unterschiedliche Schlüssel für place tragen. Daher tendiere ich dazu, einfach das zu bereinigen. Also frei nach dem Motto: Wenn auch vielleicht redundant, dann wenigstens konsistent. Andernfalls bräuchten wir ja eher eine Auswertung, wo Node und Fläche beide mit place getaggt sind. Die Liste wäre dann vermutlich deutlich länger. Grüße, Michael ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] script (perl) für das file-löschen
Am 17.01.2012 07:26, schrieb Andre Joost: Hi, Am 17.01.2012 05:52, schrieb Jan Tappenbeck: kennt einer von Euch ein kleines Skript mit welchem man alle Dateien bis zu einer Größe x rekursiv löschen kann? (Windows - Perl möglich). Das geht auch ganz einfach per Betriebssystem: In eine Textdatei aufraeumen.bat schreibst du folgendes hinein: for /R .\ %%N IN (*.PNG) DO if %%~zN LSS 120 del %%N und verschiebst die in die oberste Ebene der zu säubernden Verzeichnisse. Die Größe von 120 Byte müsstest du noch per Explorer überprüfen, das kann vom Renderer abhängen. Gruß, André joost hi ! geiles Script - dann noch ein echo off und es wird vermutlich noch schneller sein weil die Namen nicht erst über das Fenster gelistet werden müssen. Gruß Jan :-: ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Look and Listen Map ist nominiert für D-ELINA 2012!
Hallo Walter. Taktile Karten sind im Bereich Haptorender angesiedelt. Darüber nachgedacht haben wir schon, und es experimentiert jemand mit 'nem Makerbot daran, da was hinzukriegen. Wenn Du Interesse hast, darfst Du natürlich gerne einsteigen - wie alle anderen auch. Gruß Peter (jongleur) Am 16.01.2012 18:53, schrieb Walter Nordmann: Wow, tolle Aussichten Ich wünsche euch viel Glück! Habt ihr schon mal über eine taktile Karte nachgedacht? Ist nicht mein Fachgebiet aber ich finde, es könnte eine wirkliche Herausforderung sein. Vom Rendern bis zum Drucken/Prägen - alles offene Baustellen. Gruss Walter - Wenn du den Wald vor lauter Bäumen nicht siehst, fälle die Bäume und du wirst sehen, dass da kein Wald ist. -- View this message in context: http://gis.638310.n2.nabble.com/Look-and-Listen-Map-ist-nominiert-fur-D-ELINA-2012-tp7192927p7193423.html Sent from the Germany mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Look and Listen Map ist nominiert für D-ELINA 2012!
Hallo Matthias. Was willst Du wissen? ;) Zu deiner Frage: Sprachausgabe ist im allgemeinen zu komplex für die Webseite selbst (obwohl es bereits eine javascript-text-to-speech-Engine als proof-of-concept gibt), aber Blinde benutzen alternativ zur Braillezeile auch Screenreader-Software. Neben der Unterstützung des Betriebssystems selbst erlauben Screenreader speziell im Browser die Navigation durch die Struktur der Seite: Du kannst Dir also wahlweise die ganze seite vorlesen lassen, oder durch Absätze springen, durch Überschriften navigieren, etc. Meist ist das dann mit der Tastaturbedienung des Browsers kombiniert. Klar: dynamische Ajax-Inhalte und Animationen können schnell problematisch sein, aber das ist bei veralteten Browsern etc. auch immer der Fall. Screenreader haben die meisten Blinden Nutzer des Internets sowieso installiert - selbst auf Smartphones. Insofern konzentrieren wir uns darauf, den HTML-Code der Seite entsprechend sauber zu strukturieren, um die Bedienung per Screenreader zu erleichtern. Gruß Peter Am 16.01.2012 21:32, schrieb Matthias Meißer: Hi, auch von mir Gratultion, wäre ja super wenn das klappt :) Am 16.01.2012 16:34, schrieb lulu-...@gmx.de: ... Derweil macht die Programmierung Fortschritte: Wir haben Server und Domain, und OpenStreetMap Kartendaten werden auch schon eingelesen. Nun kommt bald der Kernpunkt der Programmierung, das Umwandeln der OSM-Daten in brauchbare Texte entlang von Routen. Sobald die Links nicht mehr ins Leere gehen, und ein bißchen Funktionalität vorzuweisen ist, geben wir Euch das hier auf der Liste bekannt. Wer in Karlsruhe auf die Messe kommen möchte oder uns sonst treffen, der kann mir mailen. Könntet ihr etwas mehr Informationen in das Wiki packen, wie das umgesetzt werden soll? Ich habe zwar euer Pflichtenheft überflogen, aber so richtig eine Vorstellung habe ich nicht davon wie man das blinden vermitteln kann. Ich kenne mich (wie sicherlich die meisten hier) überhaupt gar nicht aus, wie eine Software neben Brailzeile sinnvoll mit Sehbehinderten interagieren kann. Denke Sprachausgabe ist da zu komplex, oder? Gruß Matthias ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
[Talk-de] OSM Stand auf Leipziger Geocaching-Grossevent?
Hallo zusammen, die Geocacher halten Ende Juni ein Grossevent (ca. 2500 Teilnehmer) in Leipzig ab und haben Interesse an OSM-Beteiligung bekundet. Beim Event letzten Herbst gab es bereits einen gut besuchten Vortrag (User !i!) und daraufhin Follow-Up Vortraege und Workshops bei den regionalen Geocacher-Stammtischen (u.a. durch mich.) Ich stehe in Kontakt mit der Orga und will hier schon mal erste Reaktionen einholen, ob sich jemand bereiterklaert, uns da zu unterstuetzen. Der genaue Umfang ist, wie erwaehnt, noch fraglich. Zur Debatte stehen aber ein Infostand (wir brauchen Betreuung, Info-(Flyer/Demos) und Werbematerial (Banner/Poster)), ein oder mehrere Vortraege und vielleicht sogar ein Workshop (Betreuer/Rechentechnik). Insbesondere soll das ein Versuch sein, an lokale Mapper heranzukommen, die aushelfen koennen. Leider gibt es weder eine Leipzig- noch eine Sachsen-Liste. Liest hier jemand von der Dresden-Liste mit und mag das Cross-Posten? Auch gerne gesehen sind Erfahrungen/Material/Leute von aehnlichen Events/Messen/Konferenzen. Wir muessen anhand unserer Moeglichkeiten abschaetzen, was wir anbieten koennen. Die Geocacher sind ein artverwandtes Voelkchen, laufen den ganzen Tag mit GPSds durch den Wald und sind damit potentiell unerschoepflicher Quell von Waldweg-GPX-Daten. Zudem sind sie technikaffin und statistikgeil. Und natuerlich immer dankbare Abnehmer von kostenguenstigen Garmin-Karten. Ideales Zielpublikum also. Input gerne hier oder konkretes per Mail. Chaos_99 ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] OSM Stand auf Leipziger Geocaching-Grossevent?
Am 17.01.2012 11:58, schrieb Ronnie Soak: ... Auch gerne gesehen sind Erfahrungen/Material/Leute von aehnlichen Events/Messen/Konferenzen. Wir muessen anhand unserer Moeglichkeiten abschaetzen, was wir anbieten koennen. ... Ich stelle euch gerne meine Vorträge und Eindrücke von der Lost in MV zu Verfügung. Das muss sicherlich alles auf Sachsen übertragen werden, aber ist ja immerhin ein guter Ausgangspunkt. Können auch gerne mal telefonieren. Finde es auf jeden Fall sehr spannend und habe mich ein wenig geärgert, dass wir auf dem Event damals nicht stärker vertreten waren, denn die Nachfrage ist auf jeden Fall da :) Gruß Matthias (user:!i!) ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Unterstützung bei Datenbereinigung gesucht
Am 17. Januar 2012 01:40 schrieb Stephan Wolff s.wo...@web.de: Am 16.01.2012 18:26, schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: das ist zwar eine rel. einfach durchführbare Bearbeitung, dafür verliert man die Information der place-Ausdehnung. Wie schon Ludwich schrieb, sind die Place-Flächen meist mit landuse=residential identisch. Dann verliert man die place-Ausdehnung auch, wenn man ein landuse=farmyard davon abspaltet. Wenn das landuse=farmyard zum Ort gehört wird es zugegebenermaßen ab diesem Punkt etwas komplizierter. Man wird dann wohl getrennte multipolygon-relationen für die landuses (damit man die Umrisse wiederverwenden kann) und für das place-Objekt benötigen. Alternativ kann man auch überlappende Polygone zeichnen. Wenn es keine politischen Grenzen gibt, ist die place-Ausdehnung meist nicht exakt definierbar. politische Grenzen beinhalten das gesamte Land, also auch Felder, Wiesen, Steinbrüche, Wälder, Mülldeponien, Seen, Strände, Berge, Sümpfe etc. während der Place nur den im Zusammenhang besiedelten Teil betrifft. Gruß Martin ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Look and Listen Map ist nominiert für D-ELINA 2012!
Hallo Peter, Am 17.01.2012 09:52, schrieb Peter Wendorff: Hallo Matthias. Was willst Du wissen? ;) Zu deiner Frage: Sprachausgabe ist im allgemeinen zu komplex für die Webseite selbst (obwohl es bereits eine javascript-text-to-speech-Engine als proof-of-concept gibt), aber Blinde benutzen alternativ zur Braillezeile auch Screenreader-Software. Neben der Unterstützung des Betriebssystems selbst erlauben Screenreader speziell im Browser die Navigation durch die Struktur der Seite: Du kannst Dir also wahlweise die ganze seite vorlesen lassen, oder durch Absätze springen, durch Überschriften navigieren, etc. Meist ist das dann mit der Tastaturbedienung des Browsers kombiniert. Klar: dynamische Ajax-Inhalte und Animationen können schnell problematisch sein, aber das ist bei veralteten Browsern etc. auch immer der Fall. Ah ok. Aber wie wollt ihr da die Karteninhalte mit transportieren? Also soll zum Beispiel die aktuelle Position per Sprache beschrieben werden? In etwa Sie stehen am Marienplatz und blicken in Richtung des Schlosspark-Centers? Und wie sollte man damit die Suche realisieren (Eingabe was man sucht, Beschreibung der Ergebnisliste, Ausgabe von Navigationsanweisungen, ..)? Ich denke ich habe da wie so oft das Problem bei Anwendung von OSM für Behinderte, dass ich denke, dass man viel mehr Informationen und bessere Technologien bräuchte, als wir sie bisher haben :/ Wenn ich nur an die Treffer von Nominatim denke, ist das manchmal für uns recht lustig, wenn man sich das aber anhören muss, wirds ja ganz schnell gruselig... Gruß Matthias (user:!i!) Am 16.01.2012 21:32, schrieb Matthias Meißer: Hi, auch von mir Gratultion, wäre ja super wenn das klappt :) Am 16.01.2012 16:34, schrieb lulu-...@gmx.de: ... Derweil macht die Programmierung Fortschritte: Wir haben Server und Domain, und OpenStreetMap Kartendaten werden auch schon eingelesen. Nun kommt bald der Kernpunkt der Programmierung, das Umwandeln der OSM-Daten in brauchbare Texte entlang von Routen. Sobald die Links nicht mehr ins Leere gehen, und ein bißchen Funktionalität vorzuweisen ist, geben wir Euch das hier auf der Liste bekannt. Wer in Karlsruhe auf die Messe kommen möchte oder uns sonst treffen, der kann mir mailen. Könntet ihr etwas mehr Informationen in das Wiki packen, wie das umgesetzt werden soll? Ich habe zwar euer Pflichtenheft überflogen, aber so richtig eine Vorstellung habe ich nicht davon wie man das blinden vermitteln kann. Ich kenne mich (wie sicherlich die meisten hier) überhaupt gar nicht aus, wie eine Software neben Brailzeile sinnvoll mit Sehbehinderten interagieren kann. Denke Sprachausgabe ist da zu komplex, oder? Gruß Matthias ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Unterstützung bei Datenbereinigung gesucht
politische Grenzen beinhalten das gesamte Land, also auch Felder, Wiesen, Steinbrüche, Wälder, Mülldeponien, Seen, Strände, Berge, Sümpfe etc. während der Place nur den im Zusammenhang besiedelten Teil betrifft. Oh ja, auf die Schnelle mal die Stadt Aalen als Beispiel: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?relation=915486 - das eigentliche Stadtgebiet liegt da schon auch mit drin, ist aber nur ein kleiner Teil. Irgendwie braucht es da schon noch irgendetwas, was so mehr der Fläche zwischen den Ortsschildern entspricht - place eben... Daher bin ich ja dafür, in der Liste Nodes und Ways beide zu behalten aber einheitlich zu taggen. Michael ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Unterstützung bei Datenbereinigung gesucht
Am 17. Januar 2012 12:40 schrieb Michael Krämer ohr...@googlemail.com: Teil. Irgendwie braucht es da schon noch irgendetwas, was so mehr der Fläche zwischen den Ortsschildern entspricht - place eben... vorsicht, die Ortsschilder sind nochmal ein anderes Thema. Die werden nach den Erfordernissen der Anwohner und der Verkehrssicherheit aufgestellt (sind also rein verkehrsrechtlich zu sehen, kleinere Weiler haben z.B. meist gar kein Ortsschild). Place ist eher siedlungsgeographisch definiert (m.E.). Gruß Martin ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] OSM Stand auf Leipziger Geocaching-Grossevent?
Am 17.01.2012 11:58, Ronnie Soak: Hallo zusammen, die Geocacher halten Ende Juni ein Grossevent (ca. 2500 Teilnehmer) in Leipzig ab und haben Interesse an OSM-Beteiligung bekundet. (...) Insbesondere soll das ein Versuch sein, an lokale Mapper heranzukommen, die aushelfen koennen. Leider gibt es weder eine Leipzig- noch eine Sachsen-Liste. Liest hier jemand von der Dresden-Liste mit und mag das Cross-Posten? Die mitteldeutsche Mailingliste findest du hier: www.mail-archive.com/halleipzig@lists.openstreetmap.de/info.html Claudius ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Unterstützung bei Datenbereinigung gesucht
Am 17. Januar 2012 13:12 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: vorsicht, die Ortsschilder sind nochmal ein anderes Thema. Die werden nach den Erfordernissen der Anwohner und der Verkehrssicherheit aufgestellt (sind also rein verkehrsrechtlich zu sehen, kleinere Weiler haben z.B. meist gar kein Ortsschild). Place ist eher siedlungsgeographisch definiert (m.E.). Ok, ok - ich habe es kommen sehen. Allerdings wollte ich vermeiden mit so etwas wie geschlossene Bebauung etc. anzufangen... Zum Glück sind wir uns inhaltlich aber wohl einig. Michael ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Tool für Wikipedia-Koordinaten?
Am 16.01.2012 08:36, schrieb Norbert Kück: Hallo, am 15.01.2012 23:42 schrieb Garry: Nach dem ich gerade über einen Artikel in Wikipedia gestolpert bin dem noch die Koordinaten fehlen und eine schnelles Einsetzen der selben nicht ohne weiteres möglich schien: Gibt es ein Tool um per CopyPaste eine Koordinate aus OSM in Wikipedia zu setzen? Wie wäre es damit? http://www.mcaviglia.ch/gmap/get_coor_ext.asp?l=de Danke, funktioniert - allerdings google-Karten-basierend... Gruss Garry ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] OSM Stand auf Leipziger Geocaching-Grossevent?
Die mitteldeutsche Mailingliste findest du hier: www.mail-archive.com/halleipzig@lists.openstreetmap.de/info.html Ja, das haette ich natuerlich auch selbst finden koennen. Danke, manchmal ist man einfach blind. Ich poste dann auch noch mal da, wuerde die allg. Diskussion aber mal hier belassen, solange es noch um generelle Vorschlaege geht. Meine Vortragsfolien stehen ueberigens natuerlich auch allen zur Verfuegung, sollte ich nicht sowieso selbst anwesend sein. Frederick hatte mich schon mit ein paar Flyern versorgt, die mir allerdings schon wieder fast alle aus den Haenden gerissen worden sind. Stefan ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
[Talk-de] Antw.: Ulf Möller wurde ermordet
Hallo! Ich kannte Nils zwar nicht. Aber das ist Natürlich wirklich sehr traurig zu lesen! Es ja wohl eine Art von Raubmord. Daher mein herzliches Beileid für Alle die ihn kannten, Oder mit ihm verwandt sind! Sven Sommerkamp Gesendet mit meinem HTC - Reply message - Von: Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com An: Openstreetmap allgemeines in Deutsch talk-de@openstreetmap.org Betreff: [Talk-de] Ulf Möller wurde ermordet Datum: Di., Jan. 17, 2012 02:45 From: Nils Kammenhuber Subject: Ulf Möller wurde ermordet Date: 2012-01-16 15:29:19 MEZ Liebe Freunde, ich habe die traurige Pflicht, euch im Namen seiner Familie darüber zu informieren, dass Ulf Möller Opfer eines Raubmordes geworden ist. Ulf hatte mir noch am Montagmorgen (9.1.) gemailt, dass er an diesem Wochenende zu einer mehrmonatigen Reise nach Südostasien aufbrechen will. Am Montag wollte er mit einem gemieteten Transporter zu seinen Eltern nach Trittau bei Hamburg fahren. Sein letztes Lebenszeichen war am Montagabend um 21:24 ein Anruf bei seiner Mutter von einem Rastplatz in Brandenburg; er meinte, dass er gegen 00:30 ankommen sollte. Am Dienstagmittag rief mich sein Bruder Hauke an, um zu fragen, ob ich in Google Latitude Ulfs Position sehen könnte. Wir blieben in den darauffolgenden Tagen in losem Mailkontakt und ich habe Hauke und Bodo geholfen, die Vermisstenmeldung der Polizei an Zeitungen, Radio- und Fernsehsender in diesem Raum weiterzuleiten. Es stellte sich bald heraus, dass auf seine PIN- und Kreditkarten im Raum Dessau/Roßlau bis Potsdam mehrmals Geld abgehoben und eingekauft wurde; genauere Details bei mir auf Anfrage (ich möchte sie in einer Massenmail sicherheitshalber nicht preisgeben). Am Sonntag (15.1.) wurde Ulfs Leiche und der Transporter, mit dem er unterwegs war, in einem Waldstück zwischen Roßlau und Coswig (bei Dessau) gefunden. Ulf ist durch Gewalt gestorben. Die exakten Umstände weiß ich [noch] nicht. Hauke hat mich gebeten, euch zu informieren. Ihr könnt diese Mail auch gerne an andere Netzbekanntschaften weiterleiten. Wenn ich noch weitere Informationen erhalte, gebe ich euch bescheid. Für die, die weder Hauke noch Bodo persönlich kennen, kann ich Beileidsbezeugungen auch gerne bündeln und weiterleiten. Ulf war ein stiller, ruhiger, netter Kerl, mit dem ich mich ab und an mal im Biergarten, zum Brettspiele-Abend oder zum Geocaching getroffen habe. Ich habe ihn und seinen lustigen Humor sehr geschätzt und werde ihn vermissen. Mit traurigen Grüßen, Nils Links: http://www.mz-web.de/servlet/ContentServer?pagename=ksta/pageatype=ksArtikelaid=1321007898341 http://www.mz-web.de/servlet/ContentServer?pagename=ksta/pageatype=ksArtikelaid=1326456860424openMenu=1012902958704calledPageId=1012902958704listid=1018348861894 -- Dr. Nils Kammenhuber | +49-89-289-18021, http://www.net.in.tum.de/~hirvi Lehrstuhl für Netzwerkarchitektur, Technische Universität München ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Tool für Wikipedia-Koordinaten?
Hallo, am 17.01.2012 13:40 schrieb Garry: Wie wäre es damit? http://www.mcaviglia.ch/gmap/get_coor_ext.asp?l=de Danke, funktioniert - allerdings google-Karten-basierend... Du kannst ja auch Koordinaten (zum Bleistift von OSM-Punkten)in die Felder oben Links kopieren. Gruß nk ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Tool für Wikipedia-Koordinaten?
Am 15.01.2012 23:42, schrieb Garry:
Nach dem ich gerade über einen Artikel in Wikipedia gestolpert bin dem
noch die Koordinaten fehlen und eine schnelles Einsetzen der selben
nicht ohne weiteres möglich schien: Gibt es ein Tool um per CopyPaste
eine Koordinate aus OSM in Wikipedia zu setzen?
Nach der hier bereits genannten Website dachte ich da könnte
man Greasemonkey (für firefox) verwenden.
Nur mal so dahin geschmiert. Man kriegt damit, wenn man einen
node auf osm.org ansieht, eine extra Textbox mit dem nötigen
Text.
Da ich aber von dem Text nicht so recht die Ahnung habe muß man das
evtl. anpassen.
Vielleicht wäre es besser
http://www.mcaviglia.ch/gmap/get_coor_ext.asp?l=de
anzupassen (zur not mit greasemonkey) so daß man dort einen
osm permanentlink in ein Textfeld eingeben kann und das dort
geparst wird.
So mal als Idee.
---
// ==UserScript==
// @name osmNodeToWikiCoords
// @includehttp://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/*
// ==/UserScript==
function toWikiText(lat,lon){
return '{{Coordinate|NS='+lat+'|EW='+lon+'|type=landmark|region=DE}}';
}
function getValue(root, what){
var node = root.getElementsByClassName(what)[0];
return node.textContent.replace(',','.');
}
var cc = document.getElementsByClassName('geo');
var c, input;
for( var i in cc){
c = cc[i];
input = document.createElement('input');
input.size='40';
input.value = toWikiText(getValue(c,'latitude'),
getValue(c,'longitude'));
c.parentNode.appendChild(input);
}
---
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Re: [Talk-de] Look and Listen Map ist nominiert für D-ELINA 2012!
Hi. Am 17.01.2012 12:27, schrieb Matthias Meißer: Hallo Peter, [...] Ah ok. Aber wie wollt ihr da die Karteninhalte mit transportieren? Also soll zum Beispiel die aktuelle Position per Sprache beschrieben werden? In etwa Sie stehen am Marienplatz und blicken in Richtung des Schlosspark-Centers? Ganz grob ist das die Idee, natürlich erweitert um links von Ihnen befindet sich..., rechts ist... und so weiter. Und wie sollte man damit die Suche realisieren (Eingabe was man sucht, Beschreibung der Ergebnisliste, Ausgabe von Navigationsanweisungen, ..)? Momentan habe ich Nominatim eingebunden, die Ergebnisse müssen natürlich entsprechend aufbereitet werden, und zwar mehr, als das is-in auszugeben, wie das momentan meist der Fall ist. Wenn aber Paderborn nicht als Paderborn, Regierungsbezirk Detmold, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Deutschland, Europa... sondern als Paderborn, Stadt zwischen Bielefeld und Kassel... ausgegeben wird, wird das hoffentlich besser. Ich denke ich habe da wie so oft das Problem bei Anwendung von OSM für Behinderte, dass ich denke, dass man viel mehr Informationen und bessere Technologien bräuchte, als wir sie bisher haben :/ Wenn ich nur an die Treffer von Nominatim denke, ist das manchmal für uns recht lustig, wenn man sich das aber anhören muss, wirds ja ganz schnell gruselig... Ich werde nicht auf Dauer die Nominatim-Treffer so in der Rohfassung angucken, sondern die OSM-ID des Nominatim-Treffers benutzen, um zum entsprechenden Objekt eine Beschreibung zu erzeugen. Klar: Diese Beschreibungen sind der springende Punkt, und versprechen kann ich dafür noch nichts, aber wenn wir nur OSM-Daten ausgeben wollten, wäre das Projekt ja nicht so was besonderes. Wir haben da einige Ideen, zu denen ich noch nicht allzuviel verraten möchte. Gruß Peter ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] OSM Stand auf Leipziger Geocaching-Grossevent?
Am 17.01.2012 11:58, schrieb Ronnie Soak: die Geocacher halten Ende Juni ein Grossevent (ca. 2500 Teilnehmer) in Leipzig ab und haben Interesse an OSM-Beteiligung bekundet. Die Veranstaltung ist derart kommerziell ausgerichtet (effektiv dreistellige Eintrittsgelder für die Besucher und deutlich vierstellige Standmieten für die vertretenen Shops), dass ich ein schlechtes Gewissen hätte, den Veranstaltern mit Betrieb eines solchen Benefiz-Standes ggf. ein Deckmäntelchen für interessanten Content zu spendieren. -jha- ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] OSM Stand auf Leipziger Geocaching-Grossevent?
Disclaimer: Ausrichter des Events sind die Privatpersonen von sachsencacher.de Betreiber ist die Messe Leipzig AG Sponsor ist die kommerzielle Plattform geocaching.com Es wird kommerzielle Aussteller geben, z.B. Garmin, Magellan, Caching-Shops, Lampenhersteller Geocaching.com ist Werbe- und Premiummember-finanziert. Das Event wird aber von Nutzern selbst ausgerichtet, es fliesst also kein Geld an die Webseite (eher andersherum). Meines Wissens nach wird versucht, lediglich kostendeckend zu arbeiten, bei den aufgerufenen Preisen glaube ich das auch gerne. Die Standpreise fuer kommerzielle Aussteller kenne ich nicht. Also ich lese auf http://www.project-geogames.de/content/Static.aspx?name=Pricing einen Eintrittspreis von 17 Euro. Ich glaube nicht, dass da viel Gewinn fuer die Veranstalter uebrig bliebt. Fuer die Benutzung des Zeltplatzes fallen 15 Euro an, fuer Fruehstueck 5. Also Ich weiss ja nicht was bei euch so der Zeltplatz oder eine Messeveranstalltung kostet, aber ich wuerde das 'guenstig' nennen. Bei drei Tagen Dauer, mit Zelten, Essen und dem freiwilligen 'Sponsor'-Ticket komm ich auf 82 Euro. Da kannst du dir noch das Eventshirt kaufen und bist immer noch nicht dreistellig. (Kleiner Vergleich: OSM war auch auch auf dem Chaos Communication Congress vertreten. Eine rein gemeinnuetzige Veranstaltung, fuer die ich 80 Euro Eintritt bezahlt habe. Was kostet die FOSGIS?) Waehrend man ueber die kommerzielle Ausrichtung von geocaching.com gerne streiten kann, ist das Event eine aeusserst unkommerzielle Angelegenheit. Ausserdem steht OSM auch der kommerziellen Nutzung seiner Daten nicht ablehnend gegenueber. Im Gegenteil! Ich sehe nicht, wieso ich bei der Promotion von OSM solch eine Einschraenkung einfuehren sollte. Ausserdem geht es mir um die Gaeste, nicht um den Veranstalter. OSM nutzt ja auch gerne die Dienste von MAPQuest und geofabrik, um Werbung zu machen, oder? Soviel zum Trollplonk. Am 18.01.12 schrieb Johann H. Addicks addi...@gmx.net: Am 17.01.2012 11:58, schrieb Ronnie Soak: die Geocacher halten Ende Juni ein Grossevent (ca. 2500 Teilnehmer) in Leipzig ab und haben Interesse an OSM-Beteiligung bekundet. Die Veranstaltung ist derart kommerziell ausgerichtet (effektiv dreistellige Eintrittsgelder für die Besucher und deutlich vierstellige Standmieten für die vertretenen Shops), dass ich ein schlechtes Gewissen hätte, den Veranstaltern mit Betrieb eines solchen Benefiz-Standes ggf. ein Deckmäntelchen für interessanten Content zu spendieren. -jha- ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-it] articolo su repubblica
Il giorno 17/gen/2012 08:52, Maurizio Napolitano napoo...@gmail.com ha scritto: come avete visto mi hanno intervistato ma ignoravo cosa era scritto nell'articolo principale Beh te la sei cavata egregiamente Purtroppo lo spazio non era molto Ho segnalato alcune piccole imprecisioni Hanno trovato l'argomento molto affascinante e mi dicono che ci torneranno presto Speriamo Di questo spazio cogliere gli aspetti positivi Ad esempio mia moglie Carmen ha cominciato quest'anno a far usare Crowdmap per lezioni di toponomastica locale ai bambini delle primarie e avere l possibilità di dire ai loro genitori che il software usato è citato su Repubblica è molto importante. Ciao Matteo Il giorno 17/gen/2012 02:06, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com ha scritto: 201s2/1/17 Simone Cortesi sim...@cortesi.com: un, secondo me, non bellissimo articolo che parla anche di osm: http://www.youkioske.com/prensa-europea/la-repubblica-15-gennaio-2012/ (pagina 42-43) segnalato dal Napo. si, pare che su Haiti non sono molto informati (scrivono di visualizzare informazioni ricavati da social network su mappe semplici come quelli di google e openstreetmap) :-( Qualcuno gli scrive? Sarebbe stato una ottima occasione per parlare dei vantaggi osm rispetto a google... ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] R: Ponte tibetano?
buon giorno ho letto l accesa discussione sul Tibetano e perdonate la mia ignoranza ma un ponte Tibeta può avere anche più di tre cavi, alcuni possono essere anche di sicurezza. ma non sarebbe meglio taggarlo direttamente come ponte Tibeta e dire ai router che non si può accedere con mezzi motorizza bici cavalli in tutto il mondo sanno cosa è un ponte Tibeta e che non è facile da affrontare. Specie a chi soffre di vertigini saluti a tutti Il giorno 16/gen/2012 18:42, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com ha scritto: 2012/1/16 niubii f.pelu...@gmail.com: ... difatti non andrebbe taggato come highway=footway, stiamo parlando di tre funi sospese su un... no, quello era un altro esempio, stiamo parlando di un percorso largo ca. 40-50 cm fatto di listelli (?) in legno e con delle rencinzioni abbastanza sicuri: http://www.larena.it/galleries/684_gallery_2/fotodelgiorno/367233/ ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstre... ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] R: Ponte tibetano?
2012/1/17 giovanni di lorenzo giovannidilorenzo1...@gmail.com: buon giorno ho letto l accesa discussione sul Tibetano e perdonate la mia ignoranza ma un ponte Tibeta può avere anche più di tre cavi, alcuni possono essere anche di sicurezza. certo, si vede nella foto che tu citi nella mia mail. ma non sarebbe meglio taggarlo direttamente come ponte Tibeta si, va indicato il tipo di costruzione. C'è una discussione in merito sulla lista [tagging] e dire ai router che non si può accedere con mezzi motorizza bici cavalli si, quello di solito si capisce già sufficientemente tramite il tag highway e la larghezza (tag width), anche ignorando il tipo di ponte (che sarebbe cmq. una indicazione precisa, preferibilmente da dare) in tutto il mondo sanno cosa è un ponte Tibeta non sono sicuro se ponte Tibeta si capisce ovunque: http://www.flickr.com/photos/54724780@N00/4952340787/ http://blog.webshots.com/2011/06/creative-challenge-winners-scenic-bridges/ http://www.sacu.org/pic50.html forse si, ma non c'è una voce in wikipedia inglese o tedesco (di questo nome), mentre in italiano c'è: http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponte_tibetano in tedesco il nome è diverso: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seilbr%C3%BCcke e anche in inglese c'è un altro termine: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_suspension_bridge --- oltre simple suspension bridge lo chiamano rope bridge, swing bridge (in New Zealand), suspended bridge, hanging bridge e catenary bridge. cmq. sono d'accordo con te: va definito un tag preciso per questo tipo di ponte. ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-it] rilascio foto satellitari GeoEye / orbview 3
Per chi non legge la lista talk: è stato rilasciato un dataset di foto satellitari commerciali sotto PD. Le foto hanno una risoluzione di 1m (credo di aver capito così) e coprano delle zone diverse. Tramite questo viewer è possibile ritrovare le foto (scegliete come dataset Orbview3, poi andate su Search Criteria,Coordinates, -use map). I risultati si possono vedere come preview in overlay su una mappa G (per vedere se il cielo non era coperto, alcuni sono solo nuvole). http://earthexplorer.usgs.gov/ Ho visto che per esempio Genova c'è, ma anche parecchio altro (poi ci sono delle foto in tutto il mondo, ma la mia ricerca si è concentrato sull'Italia). Le foto sono del periodo 2003-2007. ciao, Martin PS: Per darvi un esempio della qualità dei dati ho allegato un screenshot di una parte di Roma. In questo esempio la ripresa non è molto ortogonale, e si capisce che il PCN ci da delle foto migliori, cmq. per certi casi potrebbe essere un aiuto aggiunto, sopratutto per chi mappa fuori del'Italia (e forse anche fuori dalla copertura Bing). attachment: orb3-screen.jpg___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] R: Ponte tibetano?
2012/1/16 niubii f.pelu...@gmail.com: Io lo taggerei con un highway=path sac_scale= ed in questo caso il router ti ci porta anche in mountain bike: E quindi aggiungerei anche bicycle=no e horse=no, anche se forse non è vietato nel senso del Codice della Strada... Ciao ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] mapnik ed i multipoligoni (ancora)
2012/1/16 Enrico Piccinelli picc...@tiscali.it: aggiornamento: applicando i tag boundary ed admin_level, il rendering risulta abbastanza corretto, tranne il fatto che viene disegnato il confine pure lungo l'edificio interno (che quindi continua ad essere considerato come inner). Meglio di niente. Secondo me la soluzione giusta è quella indicata da Martin nella mail che ha inoltrato. Ci vogliono due relazioni: 1. una relazione di tipo multipolygon o boundary dove metti *solo* le way che compongono il perimetro del *confine* 2. un'altra relazione con (almeno) due elementi: la relazione 1 (con ruolo border) e il secondo poligono con ruolo admin_centre In pratica OSM non ha i poligoni come enti geometrici e li simula con le relazioni multipolygon / boundary. Tu lo stai incasinando perché hai aggiunto alla geometria del confine un altro poligono che *non* fa parte della geometria. Ciao Federico ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-it] R: Tracciare percorsi da web
A proposito della creazione di percorsi via web Dopo aver ottenuto la traccia in gpx , è possibile caricarla sul TomTom One ? -Messaggio originale- Da: ale_z...@libero.it [mailto:ale_z...@libero.it] Inviato: lunedì 16 gennaio 2012 11.25 A: talk-it@openstreetmap.org Oggetto: Re: [Talk-it] Tracciare percorsi da web Messaggio originale Da: mailto:saba...@gmail.com saba...@gmail.com Data: 15/01/2012 22.38 A: openstreetmap list - italiano mailto:talk-it@openstreetmap.org talk-it@openstreetmap.org Ogg: [Talk-it] Tracciare percorsi da web Ciao,stavo indottrinando un amico che gestisce una community di ciclo- amatori. Usano per proporre percorsi urbani google earth passandosi i kml con i tracciati.Gli interrogativi che mi ha posto sono i seguenti:1. come traccio alla google earth su openstreetmap? (ovvero, a parte JOSM e simili, c'è un modo di disegnare un percorso e salvarsi i gpx?)2. come vedo i profili altimetrici? (in questo caso ho in mente i servizi che chiedono la traccia e la rispediscono con i punti corredati di altimetrie, ma non è immediato come in google earth). Quali risposte suggerite?Gli ho fatto vedere le soluzioni che ho adottato io (gpx finti e corretti) ma non mi è sembrato convinto nonostante abbia notato la bontà di OSM rispetto a G., in particolare cercava qualcosa che potesse anche fornire una condivisione fra diversi utenti. Ciao,Stefano Ciao io mi trovo alla grande usando Wordpress e il plugin OSM http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/osm/ http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/osm/ http://www.faktor.cc/Fotomobil/wp- http://www.faktor.cc/Fotomobil/wp- osm-plugin io che sono una capra col codice visualizzo i GPX (li scarico dal GPS e li semplifico con un punto ogni TOT metri) e molte altre cose come puoi vedere qui http://lanterna.net84.net/ http://lanterna.net84.net/ http://lanterna.net84.net/geotag-dei-post/ http://lanterna.net84.net/geotag-dei-post/ Per l'altimetria uso i grafici ottenuti da MyTourbook Alessandro ___ Talk-it mailing list mailto:Talk-it@openstreetmap.org Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-it] Problema con le proiezioni, era Fwd: [Talk-it-lazio] Mappare le zone urbanistiche di Roma
Vi inoltro questa richiesta perchè credo che qui si trovino più persone che potrebbero aiutare (siamo pochi in talk-it-lazio). Martin - Salve a tutti, sono da poco entrato nel magico mondo di OSM e più in generale della cartografia. Per un progetto personale mi sono trovato ad aver bisogno di mappare le zone urbanistiche di Roma e sono rimasto stupito dalla mancanza di informazioni a riguardo sulla rete. Sono riuscito recentemente ad ottenere tale mappa in formato MapInfo, ma non riesco a proiettare nelle coordinate giuste le zone urbanistiche. Un sunto del problema è disponibile qui: http://support.mapbox.com/discussions/tilemill/384-deprecated-projection-and-conversions Mapbox è il tool con cui sto creando la mia mappa, ma il problema è lo stesso anche usando Qgis. C'è qualche projection-hacker in lista disposto ad aiutarmi? Una volta risolto il problema, dovrebbe essere un gioco da ragazzi riciclare lo stesso dataset per implementare il già discusso admin_level=11 per Roma. Ciao! Giacomo ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] mapnik ed i multipoligoni (ancora)
On Tue, 17 Jan 2012, Federico Cozzi wrote: Secondo me la soluzione giusta è quella indicata da Martin nella mail che ha inoltrato. Ci vogliono due relazioni: 1. una relazione di tipo multipolygon o boundary dove metti *solo* le way che compongono il perimetro del *confine* 2. un'altra relazione con (almeno) due elementi: la relazione 1 (con ruolo border) e il secondo poligono con ruolo admin_centre perfettamente d'accordo su questo. In pratica OSM non ha i poligoni come enti geometrici e li simula con le relazioni multipolygon / boundary. Tu lo stai incasinando perché hai aggiunto alla geometria del confine un altro poligono che *non* fa parte della geometria. Io sto solo cercando di risolvere il problema, non l'ho creato :-) . Stando così le cose, allora il wiki porta alla confusione: alla pagina delle relazioni di tipo boundary [1], c'è una tabella in cui viene indicato di aggiungere un punto (d'accordo, non un percorso chiuso) con ruolo admin_centre. [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:boundary Saluti! Enrico Piccinelli picc...@tiscali.it ==___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Strade private (Era: Navit+OSM)
Il -10/01/-28163 20:59, Martin Koppenhoefer ha scritto: secondome access=/private non dovrebbe escludere una strada (o un altro feature) dalla ricerca. anche a me farebbe piacere che non venissero escluse dalla ricerca le strade/features con access=private, ma sembra proprio che gli sviluppatori non abbiano intenzione di cambiare questo comportamento, per i motivi che anche tu scrivi molto spesso le strade private non sono access=private. Access=private sono le features non accessibili/utilizzabili ne a piedi, ne in bici, ne in cavallo, ne in moto, ne in macchina, ne ... quindi perchè cercarle sul navigatore se non sono accessibili ne a piedi, ne in moto, ne in macchina, etc. A pensarci bene, le nostre strade private non hanno particolari divieti di accesso, di solito l'unico divieto sta nel fatto che non ci puoi parcheggiare se non sei residente, e sono percorribili a piedi anche ai non residenti. +1, spesso è così. Quindi non è forse più indicato usare magari access=destination? -1. Ci puoi entrare a piedi anche per transito, non deve essere la tua meta nella strada, quindi non è destination. Se c'è un liftgate metto motor_vehicle=private. di solito la strada privata in italia non è una via di transito, ma quasi sempre è una strada senza uscita, utilizzata dai residenti per raggiungere la casa. dicevo di usare access=destination proprio in questo caso più comune, che poi vale anche nel caso in cui un amico ci invita a casa sua in una strada privata, in quel caso è sempre nostra destinazione e l'amico ci può aprire un eventuale cancello. se poi è di transito il discorso cambia ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] dati gfoos aggiornamento?
2012/1/17 Luca Delucchi lucadel...@gmail.com Il 16 gennaio 2012 22:20, Andrea Decorte adeco...@gmail.com ha scritto: 2012/1/16 Niccolo Rigacci o...@rigacci.org On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 09:13:11PM +0100, beppebo...@libero.it wrote: Scusate c'è più nessuno che aggiorna i dati? Non venivano aggiornati settimanalmente? A quali dati ti riferisci? Il server ha subito problemi di spazio disco, ma dovrebbero essere risolti. Io per esempio non vedo i dati aggiornati su http://download.gfoss.it/osm/osm/regioni/. hai ragione il problema è dovuto alla mancanza di spazio segnalata da Niccolo. Ora sto ricreando i file e domani li sposto nella directory corretta. Ne approfitto per ringraziare per il servizio offerto e fare due domande, che non so se riguardino gfoss o maperitive: su http://www.mapefurlane.eu renderizzo il friuli-venezia giulia. I problemini che ho sono: 1) qualche confine è tagliato: niente di grave ma si nota ;-) questo penso sia un problema dei dati, magari il file con cui taglio non è troppo preciso 2) a sud, l'isola di Grado (link OSM, perchè ancora nn sono riuscito a metterli con leaflet) nella mia mappa è rappresentata sott'acqua come se mancassero i confini dell'isola. Potrebbe essere un problema dei dati? Si possono correggere migliorando i bounding box? potrebbe essere anche questo causa del file del poligono In questo periodo non ho molto tempo per aggiornare i file poly con i quali si taglia l'italia, però se qualcuno fosse così gentile da farli potrei controllare se la situazione migliora Grazie Luca, ora i file sono stati aggiornati. Per quanto riguarda i file .poly, dove li trovo quelli usati su gfoss? Leggendo sulla wiki sembra esista una conversione automatica da file .osm a .poly, in questo caso potrei provare a vedere se riesco a migliorarli ciao ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] mapnik ed i multipoligoni (ancora)
2012/1/17 Enrico Piccinelli picc...@tiscali.it: Stando così le cose, allora il wiki porta alla confusione: alla pagina delle relazioni di tipo boundary [1], c'è una tabella in cui viene indicato di aggiungere un punto (d'accordo, non un percorso chiuso) con ruolo admin_centre. [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:boundary Si, il wiki è un po' sbagliato in questo punto (secondo me) e dovrebbe essere cambiato (sempre secondo me). Qualcuno ha deciso di suggerire questo modo di mappatura, ma non è mai stato votato o pensato alla fine. Comunque non è un punto dove tutti sono d'accordo e quindi si dovrebbe discuterne in lista internazione (propongo [tagging]). ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Problema con le proiezioni, era Fwd: [Talk-it-lazio] Mappare le zone urbanistiche di Roma
Se ho ben capito sembrerebbe che il file di origine sia in EPSG:26591 (quindi gauss-boaga 1). Si potrebbe provare ad importarlo come EPSG:3003 e poi trasformarlo in wgs84 (EPSG:4326). Si potrebbe avere uno shp per fare qualche prova? Damjan Martin Koppenhoefer, on 17/01/2012 15.53, wrote: Vi inoltro questa richiesta perchè credo che qui si trovino più persone che potrebbero aiutare (siamo pochi in talk-it-lazio). Martin - Salve a tutti, sono da poco entrato nel magico mondo di OSM e più in generale della cartografia. Per un progetto personale mi sono trovato ad aver bisogno di mappare le zone urbanistiche di Roma e sono rimasto stupito dalla mancanza di informazioni a riguardo sulla rete. Sono riuscito recentemente ad ottenere tale mappa in formato MapInfo, ma non riesco a proiettare nelle coordinate giuste le zone urbanistiche. Un sunto del problema è disponibile qui: http://support.mapbox.com/discussions/tilemill/384-deprecated-projection-and-conversions Mapbox è il tool con cui sto creando la mia mappa, ma il problema è lo stesso anche usando Qgis. C'è qualche projection-hacker in lista disposto ad aiutarmi? Una volta risolto il problema, dovrebbe essere un gioco da ragazzi riciclare lo stesso dataset per implementare il già discusso admin_level=11 per Roma. Ciao! Giacomo ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-it] Google vandalizza OSM?
http://tech.slashdot.org/story/12/01/17/1429201/openstreetmap-reports-data-vandalism-from-google-owned-ips ciao maxx p.s. l'oggetto e' ovviamente una semplificazione della notizia. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] R: Tracciare percorsi da web
From: Alech OSM [mailto:alech.hos...@gmail.com] Sent: martedì 17 gennaio 2012 15:36 To: 'openstreetmap list - italiano' Subject: [Talk-it] R: Tracciare percorsi da web A proposito della creazione di percorsi via web Dopo aver ottenuto la traccia in gpx , è possibile caricarla sul TomTom One ? Per visualizzare direttamente un gpx puoi usare ttmaps [1] e visualizzarlo su una qualunque mappa raster. Altrimenti potresti usare dei tools per trasformare il gpx in un itinerario .itn e visualizzarlo sulle mappe tomtom. Credo che Event Logger offra questa possibilità [2]. [1] http://jrepetto.free.fr/ttmaps/en/routes.html [2] http://web.tiscali.it/macri/Event_Logger/ Ciao, Alberto ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] rilascio foto satellitari GeoEye / orbview 3
ho chiesto anche a chi ha dato la notizia in ML internazionale Quando fai il download delle foto ti trovi uno zip che contiene un file di testo con una licenza restrittiva Spero che USGS lo cambi altrimenti non si capisce Il giorno 17/gen/2012 14:10, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com ha scritto: Per chi non legge la lista talk: è stato rilasciato un dataset di foto satellitari commerciali sotto PD. Le foto hanno una risoluzione di 1m (credo di aver capito così) e coprano delle zone diverse. Tramite questo viewer è possibile ritrovare le foto (scegliete come dataset Orbview3, poi andate su Search Criteria,Coordinates, -use map). I risultati si possono vedere come preview in overlay su una mappa G (per vedere se il cielo non era coperto, alcuni sono solo nuvole). http://earthexplorer.usgs.gov/ Ho visto che per esempio Genova c'è, ma anche parecchio altro (poi ci sono delle foto in tutto il mondo, ma la mia ricerca si è concentrato sull'Italia). Le foto sono del periodo 2003-2007. ciao, Martin PS: Per darvi un esempio della qualità dei dati ho allegato un screenshot di una parte di Roma. In questo esempio la ripresa non è molto ortogonale, e si capisce che il PCN ci da delle foto migliori, cmq. per certi casi potrebbe essere un aiuto aggiunto, sopratutto per chi mappa fuori del'Italia (e forse anche fuori dalla copertura Bing). ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] rilascio foto satellitari GeoEye / orbview 3
2012/1/17 Maurizio Napolitano napoo...@gmail.com: ho chiesto anche a chi ha dato la notizia in ML internazionale Quando fai il download delle foto ti trovi uno zip che contiene un file di testo con una licenza restrittiva Spero che USGS lo cambi altrimenti non si capisce confermo. Tra altro scrivono: 4.Permitted Uses. You are granted a non-transferable, non-exclusive right to use the GeoEye Data as follows: (a)On computer systems owned or leased by you, provided that such use is solely for internal purposes and the GeoEye Data may not be accessed by third-parties; (b)You may incorporate any GeoEye Data or representation thereof within any data, documents or products, provided that such data, documents or products are used solely for internal purposes; and (c)You may copy the GeoEye Data to the extent necessary to exercise the license granted hereunder for your internal use. All rights and uses of the GeoEye Data not expressly granted by this License are reserved by GeoEye. 5. Restrictions. You shall not, without prior written permission from GeoEye: (a)Use, copy, display, modify, create derivative works, merge or transfer copies of the GeoEye Data except as expressly provided in this Agreement; or (b)Sublicense, sell, rent or lease the GeoEye Data or otherwise transfer or assign the GeoEye Data to any third-party; or (c)Alter or remove any copyright notice or proprietary legend contained in or on the GeoEye Data and that any embodiment of the GeoEye Data permitted under this License will contain a notice similar to the following: GeoEye Data is owned by GeoEye, Inc. All rights are reserved by GeoEye, Inc. ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Google vandalizza OSM?
Leggevo ora. L'annuncio ufficiale di OSM sembrerebbe questo: http://opengeodata.org/google-ip-vandalizing-openstreetmap Che dire... Se si trattasse qualche imbecille, non sarebbe né una novità né un problema. Viceversa, se fosse la nuova linea di condotta di G, sarebbe un guaio. Vorrei essere ottimista. Dopo i contributi ad OSMF, mi rifiuto di credere che si tratti di una policy aziendale. Ciao /niubii/ 2012/1/17 emmexx emm...@tiscalinet.it http://tech.slashdot.org/story/12/01/17/1429201/openstreetmap-reports-data-vandalism-from-google-owned-ips ciao maxx p.s. l'oggetto e' ovviamente una semplificazione della notizia. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Google vandalizza OSM?
2012/1/17 niubii f.pelu...@gmail.com: Che dire... Se si trattasse qualche imbecille, non sarebbe né una novità né un problema. Viceversa, se fosse la nuova linea di condotta di G, sarebbe un guaio. Vorrei essere ottimista. Dopo i contributi ad OSMF, mi rifiuto di credere che si tratti di una policy aziendale. parrebbe che i problemi siano limitati ad pochi IP. penso piu' a una qualche bella pensata di qualche digitalizzatore remoto che lavora a contratto per Google. -- -S ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Problema con le proiezioni, era Fwd: [Talk-it-lazio] Mappare le zone urbanistiche di Roma
2012/1/17 Damjan Gerl dam...@damjan.net: Se ho ben capito sembrerebbe che il file di origine sia in EPSG:26591 (quindi gauss-boaga 1). si, anche se a me sembra strano. Parliamo delle zone urbanistiche di Roma. Roma si trova nella zona 2 non 1. ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-it] Problema con le proiezioni, era Fwd: [Talk-it-lazio] Mappare le zone urbanistiche di Roma
Ciao Damjan, ti confermo che in origine il file è EPSF: 26591Puoi trovare qui l'originale in formato mapinfo:http://www.jamez.it/dropbox/zone_urbanistiche_roma.tar.gzQui invece c'è il shp generato da ogr2ogr: http://www.jamez.it/dropbox/zone_urbanistiche_roma_shp.zip Grazie intanto per il suggerimento. .. Giacomo From: Damjan Gerl dam...@damjan.netDate: 2012/1/17Subject: Re: [Talk-it] Problema con le proiezioni, era Fwd:[Talk-it-lazio] Mappare le zone urbanistiche di RomaTo: openstreetmap list - italiano talk-it@openstreetmap.orgSe ho ben capito sembrerebbe che il file di origine sia in EPSG:26591(quindi gauss-boaga 1). Si potrebbe provare ad importarlo comeEPSG:3003 e poi trasformarlo in wgs84 (EPSG:4326). Si potrebbe avereuno shp per fare qualche prova?DamjanMartin Koppenhoefer, on 17/01/2012 15.53, wrote: Vi inoltro questa richiesta perchè credo che qui si trovino più persone che potrebbero aiutare (siamo pochi in talk-it-lazio). Martin - Salve a tutti, sono da poco entrato nel magico mondo di OSM e più in generale della cartografia. Per un progetto personale mi sono trovato ad aver bisogno di mappare le zone urbanistiche di Roma e sono rimasto stupito dalla mancanza di informazioni a riguardo sulla rete. Sono riuscito recentemente ad ottenere tale mappa in formato MapInfo, ma non riesco a proiettare nelle coordinate giuste le zone urbanistiche. Un sunto del problema è disponibile qui: http://support.mapbox.com/discussions/tilemill/384-deprecated-projection-and-conversions Mapbox è il tool con cui sto creando la mia mappa, ma il problema è lo stesso anche usando Qgis. C'è qualche projection-hacker in lista disposto ad aiutarmi? Una volta risolto il problema, dovrebbe essere un gioco da ragazzi riciclare lo stesso dataset per implementare il già discusso admin_level=11 per Roma. Ciao! Giacomo ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Problema con le proiezioni, era Fwd: [Talk-it-lazio] Mappare le zone urbanistiche di Roma
se non sbaglio sul wiki di Rigacci c'è la giusta stringa di proj4 per convertire I dati del gauss-boaga Il giorno 17/gen/2012 17:55, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com ha scritto: 2012/1/17 Damjan Gerl dam...@damjan.net: Se ho ben capito sembrerebbe che il file di origine sia in EPSG:26591 (quindi gauss-boaga 1). si, anche se a me sembra strano. Parliamo delle zone urbanistiche di Roma. Roma si trova nella zona 2 non 1. ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Problema con le proiezioni, era Fwd: [Talk-it-lazio] Mappare le zone urbanistiche di Roma
Il 01/17/2012 03:53 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer scrisse: Un sunto del problema è disponibile qui: http://support.mapbox.com/discussions/tilemill/384-deprecated-projection-and-conversions Mapbox è il tool con cui sto creando la mia mappa, ma il problema è lo stesso anche usando Qgis. Ricordo il thread che mi aveva coinvolto qualche settimana fa per un problema simile: un file shape prodotto con arcgis contenente dati incoerenti. L'oggetto del thread era: convertire shape da CTR a OSM/Google Nel mio caso, dopo svariati tentativi, ho dovuto chiedere di convertire il file in un altro formato. ciao maxx ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Strade private (Era: Navit+OSM)
2012/1/15 Fabri erfab...@gmail.com: invita a casa sua in una strada privata, in quel caso è sempre nostra destinazione e l'amico ci può aprire un eventuale cancello. se poi è di transito il discorso cambia A me sembra proprio la definizione di access=private: Only with permission of the owner on an individual basis Ciao ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Google vandalizza OSM?
anche se sono pochi ip, potrebbero essere centinaia le persone a lavorarci dietro a pochi router la teoria del complotto non e' cosi' balzana, visti i soldi in gioco ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Problema con le proiezioni, era Fwd: [Talk-it-lazio] Mappare le zone urbanistiche di Roma
Ho provato a convertire un punto noto dallo shp al wgs84 (poi visualizzato in osm per verifica) ed ho usato proj.4 con il comando seguente: cs2cs +proj=tmerc +lat_0=0 +lon_0=15 +k=0.9996 +x_0=252 +y_0=0 +ellps=intl +units=m +towgs84=-225,-65,9 +no_defs +to +proj=longlat +ellps=WGS84 +datum=WGS84 +no_defs -f %.8f 2308144 4642050 0 12.44587077 41.90190914 42.37659488 e con questo le coordinate coincidono (trattasi del punto più ad ovest del Vaticano). Quindi per l'origine puoi usare Bauss-Boaga 2 (epsg:3004). Con i 3 parametri usati da me (+towgs84=-225,-65,9) per la trasformazione del datum in wgs84 però si hanno degli errori più di qualche metro, mentre se si trovasse dei 7 parametri per il Lazio si potrebbe avere errori minori. Quindi in conclusione dovresti settare la proiezione di origine in epsg:3004 e poi riproiettare il file in wgs84 epsg:4326. Qualcosa come: ogr2ogr -t_srs EPSG:4326 -s_srs EPSG:3004 ..// Ciao Damjan 17.01.2012 - 18:04 - jamez: Ciao Damjan, ti confermo che in origine il file è EPSF: 26591 Puoi trovare qui l'originale in formato mapinfo: http://www.jamez.it/dropbox/zone_urbanistiche_roma.tar.gz Qui invece c'è il shp generato da ogr2ogr: http://www.jamez.it/dropbox/zone_urbanistiche_roma_shp.zip Grazie intanto per il suggerimento. .. Giacomo From: Damjan Gerl dam...@damjan.net Date: 2012/1/17 Subject: Re: [Talk-it] Problema con le proiezioni, era Fwd: [Talk-it-lazio] Mappare le zone urbanistiche di Roma To: openstreetmap list - italiano talk-it@openstreetmap.org Se ho ben capito sembrerebbe che il file di origine sia in EPSG:26591 (quindi gauss-boaga 1). Si potrebbe provare ad importarlo come EPSG:3003 e poi trasformarlo in wgs84 (EPSG:4326). Si potrebbe avere uno shp per fare qualche prova? Damjan Martin Koppenhoefer, on 17/01/2012 15.53, wrote: Vi inoltro questa richiesta perchè credo che qui si trovino più persone che potrebbero aiutare (siamo pochi in talk-it-lazio). Martin - Salve a tutti, sono da poco entrato nel magico mondo di OSM e più in generale della cartografia. Per un progetto personale mi sono trovato ad aver bisogno di mappare le zone urbanistiche di Roma e sono rimasto stupito dalla mancanza di informazioni a riguardo sulla rete. Sono riuscito recentemente ad ottenere tale mappa in formato MapInfo, ma non riesco a proiettare nelle coordinate giuste le zone urbanistiche. Un sunto del problema è disponibile qui: http://support.mapbox.com/discussions/tilemill/384-deprecated-projection-and-conversions Mapbox è il tool con cui sto creando la mia mappa, ma il problema è lo stesso anche usando Qgis. C'è qualche projection-hacker in lista disposto ad aiutarmi? Una volta risolto il problema, dovrebbe essere un gioco da ragazzi riciclare lo stesso dataset per implementare il già discusso admin_level=11 per Roma. Ciao! Giacomo ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Problema con le proiezioni, era Fwd: [Talk-it-lazio] Mappare le zone urbanistiche di Roma
2012/1/17 jamez ja...@jamez.it: Ciao Damjan, ti confermo che in origine il file è EPSF: 26591 Puoi trovare qui l'originale in formato mapinfo: http://www.jamez.it/dropbox/zone_urbanistiche_roma.tar.gz Qui invece c'è il shp generato da ogr2ogr: http://www.jamez.it/dropbox/zone_urbanistiche_roma_shp.zip Domanda antipatica (e forse mi sono perso qualcosa): origine di questi dati? licenza? ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Google vandalizza OSM?
Il giorno 17/gen/2012 21:31, Cascafico Giovanni cascaf...@gmail.com ha scritto: anche se sono pochi ip, potrebbero essere centinaia le persone a lavorarci dietro a pochi router la teoria del complotto non e' cosi' balzana, visti i soldi in gioco Un aggiornamento: http://m.readwriteweb.com/archives/google_osm_vandalism.php ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Problema con le proiezioni, era Fwd: [Talk-it-lazio] Mappare le zone urbanistiche di Roma
Grazie mille Damjan. Effettivamente c'è un errore di ben più di qualche metro, ma l'importante è procedere per il verso giusto. Per i fini del mio progetto personale intanto andrà benone. Per quanto riguarda l'utilizzo di questi dati per OSM e la loro licenza, la tua mi sembra una domanda affatto antipatica e soprattutto dovuta, Maurizio. Trattasi di dataset fornito agli studenti di Statistica da un docente della La Sapienza per un esercizio. La licenza non è specificata e l'origine, dietro al professore, è tutt'altro che chiara. Prima di prendere decisioni affrettate chiederò maggiori informazioni al docente. Se rimanessimo nel dubbio sarei disponibile a fare una richiesta di questi dati al Comune di Roma. Intanto, grazie a tutti per il contributo. .. Giacomo On 01/18/2012 12:44 AM, Damjan Gerl wrote: Ho provato a convertire un punto noto dallo shp al wgs84 (poi visualizzato in osm per verifica) ed ho usato proj.4 con il comando seguente: cs2cs +proj=tmerc +lat_0=0 +lon_0=15 +k=0.9996 +x_0=252 +y_0=0 +ellps=intl +units=m +towgs84=-225,-65,9 +no_defs +to +proj=longlat +ellps=WGS84 +datum=WGS84 +no_defs -f %.8f 2308144 4642050 0 12.44587077 41.90190914 42.37659488 e con questo le coordinate coincidono (trattasi del punto più ad ovest del Vaticano). Quindi per l'origine puoi usare Bauss-Boaga 2 (epsg:3004). Con i 3 parametri usati da me (+towgs84=-225,-65,9) per la trasformazione del datum in wgs84 però si hanno degli errori più di qualche metro, mentre se si trovasse dei 7 parametri per il Lazio si potrebbe avere errori minori. Quindi in conclusione dovresti settare la proiezione di origine in epsg:3004 e poi riproiettare il file in wgs84 epsg:4326. Qualcosa come: ogr2ogr -t_srs EPSG:4326 -s_srs EPSG:3004 ..// Ciao Damjan 17.01.2012 - 18:04 - jamez: Ciao Damjan, ti confermo che in origine il file è EPSF: 26591 Puoi trovare qui l'originale in formato mapinfo: http://www.jamez.it/dropbox/zone_urbanistiche_roma.tar.gz Qui invece c'è il shp generato da ogr2ogr: http://www.jamez.it/dropbox/zone_urbanistiche_roma_shp.zip Grazie intanto per il suggerimento. .. Giacomo From: Damjan Gerl dam...@damjan.net Date: 2012/1/17 Subject: Re: [Talk-it] Problema con le proiezioni, era Fwd: [Talk-it-lazio] Mappare le zone urbanistiche di Roma To: openstreetmap list - italiano talk-it@openstreetmap.org Se ho ben capito sembrerebbe che il file di origine sia in EPSG:26591 (quindi gauss-boaga 1). Si potrebbe provare ad importarlo come EPSG:3003 e poi trasformarlo in wgs84 (EPSG:4326). Si potrebbe avere uno shp per fare qualche prova? Damjan Martin Koppenhoefer, on 17/01/2012 15.53, wrote: Vi inoltro questa richiesta perchè credo che qui si trovino più persone che potrebbero aiutare (siamo pochi in talk-it-lazio). Martin - Salve a tutti, sono da poco entrato nel magico mondo di OSM e più in generale della cartografia. Per un progetto personale mi sono trovato ad aver bisogno di mappare le zone urbanistiche di Roma e sono rimasto stupito dalla mancanza di informazioni a riguardo sulla rete. Sono riuscito recentemente ad ottenere tale mappa in formato MapInfo, ma non riesco a proiettare nelle coordinate giuste le zone urbanistiche. Un sunto del problema è disponibile qui: http://support.mapbox.com/discussions/tilemill/384-deprecated-projection-and-conversions Mapbox è il tool con cui sto creando la mia mappa, ma il problema è lo stesso anche usando Qgis. C'è qualche projection-hacker in lista disposto ad aiutarmi? Una volta risolto il problema, dovrebbe essere un gioco da ragazzi riciclare lo stesso dataset per implementare il già discusso admin_level=11 per Roma. Ciao! Giacomo ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Google vandalizza OSM?
Alla fine è tutta pubblicità. Forse sarà vero che non tutto il male viene per nuocere... Ciao /niubii/ Il giorno 18/gen/2012 00:57, Alessandro Fanna a...@rospus.org ha scritto: Il giorno 17/gen/2012 21:31, Cascafico Giovanni cascaf...@gmail.com ha scritto: anche se sono pochi ip, potrebbero essere centinaia le persone a lavorarci dietro a pochi router la teoria del complotto non e' cosi' balzana, visti i soldi in gioco Un aggiornamento: http://m.readwriteweb.com/archives/google_osm_vandalism.php ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] dati gfoos aggiornamento?
Il giorno 17/gen/2012 16.07, Andrea Decorte adeco...@gmail.com ha scritto: Grazie Luca, ora i file sono stati aggiornati. Per quanto riguarda i file .poly, dove li trovo quelli usati su gfoss? Leggendo sulla wiki sembra esista una conversione automatica da file .osm a .poly, in questo caso potrei provare a vedere se riesco a migliorarli Quelli di gfoss non sono online,se riesco (permessi di scrittura permettendo) li metto fra un sul server e mando il link. ciao Ciao Luca http://www.lucadelu.org http://gis.cri.fmach.it/delucchi ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Google vandalizza OSM?
Il 01/18/2012 01:58 AM, niubii scrisse: Alla fine è tutta pubblicità. Forse sarà vero che non tutto il male viene per nuocere... Specie ora che la notizia e' finita in homepage su Wired... ;-) http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2012/01/osm-google-accusation/ ciao maxx ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-co] Help in santander riverbank non cerrado
Bastien I have found the problem. Unfortunately there is nothing that you or I can do to fix the situation, and we must wait for the OSM system admins. The problem is that prior to 14 December 2011 some ways in the area near Cienaga San Silvestre were tagged with natural = coastline. I can not be sure of the exact cause of the problem, but there was an error in these ways which then caused a problem in the files used to create the coastline in the mapnik layer (http://tile.openstreetmap.org/processed_p.tar.bz2) . (This file is used to generate shapefiles of the coastline, the shapefiles contain 100km x 100km polygons of coastline data, and unfortunately the error affected two of these polygons so there is an affected area of 200km x 100km) This file is not updated by the system admins very often , and the current file in use is dated 9 December 2011, so it is earlier than the changes I made on 14 December 2011. Although I corrected the error on 14 December the effect of this will not be seen on the mapnik layer until the sys admins update the coastline shapefiles. ( Note there are other areas of the world which also have errors http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-17.59lon=-72.28zoom=8layers=M http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=57.567lon=-3.877zoom=10layers=M). I hope this helps explain the problem. If you need further help then please contact me. Regards David ___ Talk-co mailing list Talk-co@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-co
[Talk-dk] Nogen fra Google IPs laver vist vandalisme i OSM
Hej alle FYI I et blog indlæg http://opengeodata.org/google-ip-vandalizing-openstreetmap har OSM bestyrelsen og teknisk admin skrevet om at der er sket vandalisme fra personer der befinder sig på Google IP adresser. /Søren Johannessen ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk
Re: [Talk-dk] Nogen fra Google IPs laver vist vandalisme i OSM
Meget interessant kommentar fra Tom Hughes http://compton.nu/ 2012/1/17 Soren Johannessen soren.johannes...@gmail.com Hej alle FYI I et blog indlæg http://opengeodata.org/google-ip-vandalizing-openstreetmap har OSM bestyrelsen og teknisk admin skrevet om at der er sket vandalisme fra personer der befinder sig på Google IP adresser. /Søren Johannessen ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk
Re: [Talk-dk] Licens i OSM og hvordan skal vi tage os at det?
Jeg er stødt på dette eksempel: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/OpenSOVS/edits Det ser ud til at brugeren er oprettet af en klub, og står for en masse KMS uploads. (Brugeren står som undecided). 2011/12/14 Jonas Häggqvist ras...@rasher.dk On 14-12-2011 19:43, Jens Winbladh wrote: Hej Så lige at Geofabrik har lavet er lag, hvor man kan se alt data der ikke er rettet ind efter den nye licens. [...] Der er nogen steder hvor det er enkelte der ikke har accepteret ændringen og er stadig aktive. Skal man kontakte dem pr. mail eller er der nogen der ved hvordan de kommer til at ske. Se f.eks. link Der er blevet sendt mail ud fra OSM på engelsk for nogle måneder siden, og på dansk for en uges tid siden. Generelt vil jeg sige vi er godt med i Danmark. Der vil uundgåeligt forsvinde data når der i sidste ende bliver slettet alt data vi ikke har fået tilladelse til at udgive under ODbL. Jeg vil anbefale at man bruger Licensechange pluginnet til JOSM eller den tilsvarende funktion i Potlatch2, således at man ikke bygger videre på veje der sandsynligvis vil blive slettet senere. Enten ved at gå udenom området, eller ved at remappe området. Et par andre sider der viser noget status: http://odbl.poole.ch/denmark-**20110919-20111212-poly.htmlhttp://odbl.poole.ch/denmark-20110919-20111212-poly.html http://odbl.de/denmark.html Kan f.eks. se at Århus kommer til at have et problem? [...] Ja, det er (næsten udelukkende) brugeren Nielsen 72, som det desværre ikke er lykkedes at få fat i. -- Jonas Häggqvist rasher(at)rasher(dot)dk __**_ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.**org/listinfo/talk-dkhttp://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk
Re: [Talk-dk] Licens i OSM og hvordan skal vi tage os at det?
On 17-01-2012 12:39, Nichlas Hummelsberger wrote: Jeg er stødt på dette eksempel: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/OpenSOVS/edits Det ser ud til at brugeren er oprettet af en klub, og står for en masse KMS uploads. (Brugeren står som undecided). Jeps. Det er noget import af en række kommunegrænser fra DAGI (som vi endnu ikke har fået afklaret om vi overhovedet må importere). Jeg har tilbageført changesets så godt det var muligt, så der ikke er spor af grænserne længere. Dog er der en bunke efterladte noder som i mellemtiden var blevet brugt af andre veje, så dem har jeg ikke rørt ved. Vi kan med god samvittighed slette og genoprette dem. -- Jonas Häggqvist rasher(at)rasher(dot)dk ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk
[Talk-gb-midanglia] The state of Bristol in OSM
On Sun Jan 15 11:15:28 GMT 2012 Andy Allan wrote On 14 January 2012 20:34, Dave F. davefox at madasafish.com wrote: Q's Does anyone have a template letter along the lines of 'please can you sign the agreement as it would mean a lot of hard work replacing your data' to send to those that are undecided or, more likely, unaware of the change? I'm crap at being polite :) Is there a way to tell who has been contacted already out of the contributors who haven't signed? I don't think numerous people contacting a user is the best way to get him to sign on the dotted line. There are templates and lists of contacted users at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Asking_users_to_accept_the_ODbL Note that the page is inaccurate as it's the CTs, not the ODbL, that they are being asked to accept. Cheers, Andy I've been using a slightly less formal and more personalised text - e.g this to user/tisjames: Subject Your OSM Contributions in Godmanchester Hi tisjames I don't know if you're aware, but OSM is changing the license that the data is produced under. See http://www.osmfoundation.org/wiki/License/We_Are_Changing_The_License . People like you am me, who joined OSM before a certain date, have to accept the terms of the new licence, otherwise their contributions will be lost. They've now set a date of 1 April 2012 for the chageover. In searching round my patch of Cambridgeshire, I've noticed that some of the data in Godmanchester is yours, and that so far, you are 'undecided' about the new licence. If you don't agree to the new terms before 1 April, your stuff will be lost, which would be a pity. Are you aware of all this, and will you be accepting or declining the terms? Anyway, if you get this, please let me know what you think about it all. Best wishes Richard Moss Obviously this needs adapting to suit the contribution of each user. Between David Earl and me, we have contacted 32 undecideds who have done bits in Cambridgeshire. Of these, 11 have converted, so worth the effort. Now we've just got to deal with the red bits that are left. I'm afraid I found the table at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Asking_users_to_accept_the_ODbL too unwieldy to study. Before writing to anyone, I have checked their user page to make sure they are still undecided, and we've kept a running list of those contacted on the talk-gb-midanglia email list. BTW I prefer the English spelling of licence (noun) :) Richard ___ Talk-gb-midanglia mailing list Talk-gb-midanglia@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-midanglia
Re: [Talk-es] Duda shp de ArcGIS.
2012/1/16 sergio sevillano sergiosevillano.m...@gmail.com algún apunte: - solo se pueden meter datos en OSM que sean libres. - si alguien dona datos debe aceptar (y deben ser compatibles con) la licencia de OSM. - si son muchos datos se considera una importación masiva y tiene cauces especiales. - OSM no tiene capas en el sentido de los GIS al uso, hay ciertos datos que llevan cierta información sobre si están encima o debajo de otra cosa, pero sólo hay una capa. - hay renderizadores que filtran los datos que pintan y se pueden obtener mapas temáticos [1] [2] [3] - si quieres visualizar unos datos sobre OSM se puede usar OpenLayers o similar... sin necesidad de importarlos a nuestra bbdd. Gracias Sergio, a ver si encontramos alguien que sea experto en este tema pero de mientras investigaremos para poder llevarlo a cabo. Saludos! [1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=41.1146lon=1.2427zoom=14layers=T [2] en esta zona también hay datos de metro y autobús http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=40.47272lon=-3.68387zoom=15layers=T [3] otro diferente http://www.openbusmap.org/?zoom=13lat=40.43061lon=-3.73002layers=BT sergio El 16/01/2012, a las 19:56, Ferran Reyes escribió: Ya he mirado un poco por la red sin encontrar una solución exacta para la duda que tengo Me gustaría saber si en el ámbito de las Jornadas que se llevarán a cabo en la Universidad Rovira i Virgili sería posible utilizar los datos que disponen de transporte público en formato shp de ArcGIS para añadirlos a la capa de transporte de OpenStreetMap. Gracias -- Ferran Reyes Fotografies Flickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/ferranreyes/ ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es -- Ferran Reyes Fotografies Flickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/ferranreyes/ ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
[Talk-es] Trazas TUZSA
Buenas, Me presento, soy Alejando Suárez, de Zaragoza y llevo en esto de OSM algún tiempo. Sigo la lista desde hace tiempo, pero creo que no había comentado aun. En Zaragoza apenas hay ninguna linea de autobús mapeada, así que he estado hurgando en la pagina de Tuzsa [1] y he encontrado unos ficheros .kml (por ejemplo la linea 23: [2]), que contienen un link de google maps que te descarga la traza de la linea correspondiente [3]. Mi duda es si se pueden utilizar estos datos como base para meter las lineas y las paradas, según he entendido de un email de la lista [4] si están en su web y no se la tiras, los puede coger; pero no estoy seguro de que esto se aplique a estos datos. Muchas gracias de antemano. [1]: http://tuzsa.es [2]: http://www.tuzsa.es/kml/023.kml [3]: http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8hl=esoe=UTF8msa=0msid=105140239849146621986.00044f4e3b61c56a85787output=kml [4]: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-es/2011-November/008556.html -- Atentamente, Suárez ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
Re: [Talk-at] Skype Konferenz zu Spur-Tagging 15.1. 19:00
On 17.01.2012 09:29, Friedrich Volkmann wrote: [...] es wird schon über ein anderes Proposal abgestimmt: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Turn_Lanes Radfahr- und Mehrzweckstreifen scheinen da nicht berücksichtigt zu sein. Es gibt Busspuren. Ich denke man kann hier genauso statt lanes:psv: auch lanes:bicycle: verwenden. Bei Mehrzweckstreifen weiß ich auch nicht wie das gemacht wird, weil wir derzeit ja kein Tag für Mehrzweckstreifen haben. Oder würde man da highway=cycleway mit einem explitziten foot=yes|designated (und foot inkludiert auch div. Skater, die ja laut StVO nur mit Spielzeug unterwegs sind und deshalb Fußgänger sind) verwenden? Aber das ist schon etwas OT. lg, Norbert ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
[Talk-at] FAQ zu Proposal turn lanes
Hi! Zu dem Proposal zur Erweiterung des lanes-Tag gibt es jetzt auch ein FAQ. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Turn_Lanes http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Turn_Lanes/FAQ Das Proposal ist meines Erachtens nach sehr gut durchdacht. Es integriert sich nahtlos in bestehende Daten, da es keine Tags ersetzt oder ablöst. Das Fehlen von Radfahrwegen ist beabsichtigt, da sie nicht Teil des lane-Tags sind (siehe http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:lanes; auf der deutschen Seite fehlen einige wichtige Teile, daher auf englisch lesen). Eine Aufnahme würde daher die aktuellen lanes-Daten ungültig machen. Selbiges gilt für Gehsteige. Das taggen nach diesem Schema ist sehr einfach und konsistent. Es löst eines der derzeit größten Problem in OSM auf einfache, elegante Weise. Für Radwege, Gehsteige, etc. braucht es mE eigene Tagging-Schemas, da diese anderen Konzepten folgen und daher nicht in das selbe Konzept hingepresst werden sollten. Bildet euch eure Meinung. vg, Martin Vonwald (imagic) ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
