Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Etrex Legend hcx - still the best in price range
There are some resources on the net that tell you how to refurbish an etrex when the rubber has come off. Haven't tried it myself but have a unit that will need doing soon. Basically involves a cleaner and some double sided tape. Does the unit power up ok if you push the switch behind the rubber band, if so a refurb should work if Garmin are not forthcoming? Cheers Andy -Original Message- From: Iain Simpson [mailto:i...@highersystems.co.uk] Sent: 04 June 2015 21:52 To: talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Etrex Legend hcx - still the best in price range Hi everyone My trusty Legend hcx has just stopped working - Rubber protection band loose and sticky (usual etrex problem) and not powering up. I'm contacting Garmin for repair - they've been good in the past ! But if I need to replace it what would you recommend ? How does the Etrex 30 perform ? Thanks -- Iain ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] comment taguer des panneaux biche (dot com) / animaux sauvages
Le 4 juin 2015 20:47, Tony Emery tony.em...@yahoo.fr a écrit : et pourquoi pas hazard=wild_animals et hazard=domestic_animal, en plus de traffic_sign=FR:A15b ? Ça fait que 2 tags au lieu de 3... J'aime ! Pour répondre au doute légitime de François, je pense que si ce tag est appliqué à un panneau ou à un tronçon de route, il est en effet évident que le crossing est sous-entendu. Le 5 juin 2015 09:43, François Lacombe fl.infosrese...@gmail.com a écrit : Le 5 juin 2015 09:33, Jérôme Seigneuret jseigneuret-...@yahoo.fr a écrit : Sinon Comme Tony hazard=wild_animals et hazard=domestic_animals C'est surement un détail, mais ajouter crossing quelque part donne plus d'informations. Le danger vient bien de la traversée des animaux, si ils restent le long de la route ça ne pose pas de soucis hazard=wild_animals_crossing et hazard=domestic_animals_crossing non ? François ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr -- *Florian Lainez* @overflorian http://twitter.com/overflorian ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Wallonia to publish data from OSM
Great news. Much thanks. Could you write a post on the topic that could for example be published on OSM.be and that we could tweet on ? Much thanks for sharing, Nicolas Le Ven 5 juin 2015 10:05, Julien Fastré a écrit : Hi, Yesterday, I had a technical meeting with SPW about publishing data on their geoportail (http://geportail.wallonie.be). They are going to test a way to export data from osm database with their platform and publish it on their portail. I will write the metadata information (if someone is interested in participating, please raise your hand :-) ). I think it's a good news that they are ready to dive into manipulating osm data. I am in backup if they encounter difficulties. The first dataset will be a list of amenities (objects with tag amenity=*). It will be available under a csv and shapefile format, and should be updated every week. The dataset should be published in late September. Regards, Julien Fastré Le 13/03/15 15:46, Julien Fastré a écrit : Hi, Second news about Wallonia / Service public de Wallonie. From OpenBelgium we started a discussion with SPW. 1. They would be happy to publish data from OSM on the geoportail (http://geoportail.wallonie.be) ! The idea is to help people to find data without having to learn how to export them from OSM. They also have the will to support / help the contributor's work, and let this work known by the public. Currently, a first proposal of dataset to publish is a csv list of all amenities in Wallonia. This would be useful for people who do not have knowledge to export data from osm. The second proposal which was discussed was vector data about walking route (chemins balisés) (as here : http://hikebikemap.org/?zoom=13lat=50.46lon=5.88). They have data about Voies lentes (http://geoportail.wallonie.be/cms/render/live/en/sites/geoportail/home/geocatalogue.html?mdUUID=ef6dff90-aa13-41af-acbd-39ed8af6800d), they might add data about local routes on the geoportal, in a shapefile or GML form. Do you have other proposals which might be interesting to publish ? The criteria are : provide useful things, or things we are proud to provide (because it does not exists elsewhere, or because it is quite complete). 2. They are also thinking about using OSM tiles on WalOnMap. We will be invited to a meeting about this topic soon. Step by step, things goes progressing... Julien ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be -- Nicolas Pettiaux - nico...@pettiaux.be Soutenons april.org , framasoft.org et laquadrature.net ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [Talk-it] Civici senza addr:street
2015-06-05 11:07 GMT+02:00 Federico Cortese cortese...@gmail.com: Più che altro ho avvisato giggls che ha creato il nodo (xybot è un bot dell'utente xylome per correzioni), mo vediamo :) Giusto per la cronaca dopo due secondi dalla segnalazione Giggls ha già sistemato, spostando il nodo nella giusta posizione e togliendolo dal mare dove stava dal 2008 a causa di coordinate di import sbagliate :) Ciao Federico ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] comment taguer des panneaux biche (dot com) / animaux sauvages
Le 1 juin 2015 13:52, PanierAvide panierav...@riseup.net a écrit : J'ai vu que l'ajout du panonceau d'étendue (M2) pouvait se faire en séparant par une virgule (qui permet d'indiquer que les deux sont liés, voir [1]). On aurait par exemple : traffic_sign=FR:A15b,M2[500m] pour une étendue de 500m. Pour revenir sur ce sujet, je comprends que cette solution est la plus pertinente si on a un panneau complexe à décrire (genre http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/67/Road_signs_bilingual_Breton_in_Quimper.jpg/400px-Road_signs_bilingual_Breton_in_Quimper.jpg ) Mais la lisibilité me parait vraiment difficile car tout est rassemblé dans la même clef et surtout on doit utiliser des [ ] Plan B : on créé une clef spécifique au panonceau qui se rapporte au panneau : - Exemple pour un panneau biche qui s'applique sur 500m : traffic_sign=FR:A15b FR:A15b:M2=500m - Exemple pour un panneau biche RAPPEL : traffic_sign=FR:A15b FR:A15b:M9z1=rappel Le 5 juin 2015 10:40, Florian LAINEZ winner...@free.fr a écrit : Le 4 juin 2015 20:47, Tony Emery tony.em...@yahoo.fr a écrit : et pourquoi pas hazard=wild_animals et hazard=domestic_animal, en plus de traffic_sign=FR:A15b ? Ça fait que 2 tags au lieu de 3... J'aime ! Pour répondre au doute légitime de François, je pense que si ce tag est appliqué à un panneau ou à un tronçon de route, il est en effet évident que le crossing est sous-entendu. Le 5 juin 2015 09:43, François Lacombe fl.infosrese...@gmail.com a écrit : Le 5 juin 2015 09:33, Jérôme Seigneuret jseigneuret-...@yahoo.fr a écrit : Sinon Comme Tony hazard=wild_animals et hazard=domestic_animals C'est surement un détail, mais ajouter crossing quelque part donne plus d'informations. Le danger vient bien de la traversée des animaux, si ils restent le long de la route ça ne pose pas de soucis hazard=wild_animals_crossing et hazard=domestic_animals_crossing non ? François ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr -- *Florian Lainez* @overflorian http://twitter.com/overflorian -- *Florian Lainez* @overflorian http://twitter.com/overflorian ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [Talk-it] Civici senza addr:street
2015-06-05 0:11 GMT+02:00 Alessandro Barbieri ale.bar...@alice.it: Fai sapere a xybot dell'errore, wolfsburg non è nel mediterraneo. - -- Più che altro ho avvisato giggls che ha creato il nodo (xybot è un bot dell'utente xylome per correzioni), mo vediamo :) Comunque utilissimo OSM Inspector, ho eseguito moltissime correzioni in provincia di Lecce di addr non collegati alle vie a causa di nomi sbagliati (nell'addr o sulla via). Grazie a Cascafico per lo spunto. Federico ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [OSM-talk-be] een mapping party in Gent
Hallo Joost, Wij zitten in Gent in de week van 13 juli. Elke avond daar kan gerust in aanmerking komen. We mogen dan de gebouwen van Digipolis Gent gebruiken voor onze studenten en ik denk wel dat we een OSM event mogen koppelen. Zoniet kan ik vragen aan iMinds die achter de hoek zitten of we daar geen vergaderzaal of de Start Up Garage voor kunnen openstellen. Onze studenten zullen zeker geïnteresseerd zijn en misschien zijn een paar mensen binnen de Start Up Garage dat ook. Wij willen gerust wat mee pushen in de communicatie als dat toch in combinatie met open Summer of code kan plaatsvinden. Laat maar weten wat jou past en dan bekijk ik de locatie. Groeten, Pieter-Jan Pieter-Jan Pauwels Community Coordinator, Open Knowledge Belgium m: +32 476 66 27 77 tel:+32 476 66 27 77 | e: pieter-jan.pauw...@okfn.org mailto:pieter-jan.pauw...@okfn.org | w: okfn.be http://okfn.be/ On 05 Jun 2015, at 08:35, joost schouppe joost.schou...@gmail.com wrote: Het aanbod van Pieter lijkt mij een offer we can't refuse. Pieter, welke avonden komen in aanmerking? Ik zou graag zo snel mogelijk een datum prikken, dan kunnen we beginnen promoten. Ruben, we zitten dicht tegen de Gentse feesten aan, misschien dat er dan al wel terug wat studenten in de stad zijn? Maar als het nu tegenvalt qua studenten, dan kunnen we het gewoon nog eens opnieuw doen eind september, begin oktober, niet? Allen, heeft er nog iemand opmerkingen bij het basisidee? ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk] Keulen (was Re: Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?)
On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 11:59 PM, Roland Olbricht roland.olbri...@gmx.de wrote: - I had no internet connectivity in that situation, hence wikidata, any other external database or even non-copied OSM data was not an option. If wikidata is mined for it's rich database of names, that data can (and should) either be periodically mirrored into the OSM data structures, or provided in bulk form for things like offline smartphone apps. Any given user likely needs only one or two of the languages present. Using wikidata vastly increases the number of available local variants of each place name: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q84 - That said there's still a place for copying the visible on the ground information, such as if a street sign or town welcome sign is available in multiple scripts. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] comment taguer des panneaux biche (dot com) / animaux sauvages
Bonjour, @Damouns : actuellement l'écriture est bien *traffic_sign=FR:** et pas *traffic_sign:FR=** (particularité au panneau) Dans notre cas c'est pas un changement de langue mais juste un panneau qui est valable sur un territoire en respect avec une législation. Cela est encore un autre sujet sur la gestion de l'internationalisation et sur les affichages des panneaux comme pour les langues régionales ou subterritoriale Sinon Comme Tony hazard=wild_animals et hazard=domestic_animals Reste à pouvoir préciser le cas des passages de cavaliers, de moutons et autre spécificité (kangourou, crocodile pour l'Australie) afin d'identifier le type de danger aléatoire. 2015-06-05 7:50 GMT+02:00 Damouns damo...@gmail.com: Le 4 juin 2015 20:47, Tony Emery tony.em...@yahoo.fr a écrit : et pourquoi pas hazard=wild_animals et hazard=domestic_animal, en plus de traffic_sign=FR:A15b ? Plutôt que traffic_sign=FR:A15b, moi je pencherais plutôt sur traffic_sign:FR=A15b. Mais sinon OK pour hazard=*_animals Damouns ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-be] een mapping party in Gent
Om het mee te organiseren, zal je aan mij niet veel hebben. Maar ik wil wel mee komen doen om wat uitleg te geven. mvg, Jo Op 5 juni 2015 11:17 schreef Pieter-Jan Pauwels pieter-jan.pauw...@okfn.org : Hallo Joost, Wij zitten in Gent in de week van 13 juli. Elke avond daar kan gerust in aanmerking komen. We mogen dan de gebouwen van Digipolis Gent gebruiken voor onze studenten en ik denk wel dat we een OSM event mogen koppelen. Zoniet kan ik vragen aan iMinds die achter de hoek zitten of we daar geen vergaderzaal of de Start Up Garage voor kunnen openstellen. Onze studenten zullen zeker geïnteresseerd zijn en misschien zijn een paar mensen binnen de Start Up Garage dat ook. Wij willen gerust wat mee pushen in de communicatie als dat toch in combinatie met open Summer of code kan plaatsvinden. Laat maar weten wat jou past en dan bekijk ik de locatie. Groeten, Pieter-Jan [image: photo] *Pieter-Jan Pauwels* Community Coordinator, Open Knowledge Belgium m: +32 476 66 27 77 +32%20476%2066%2027%2077 | e: pieter-jan.pauw...@okfn.org | w: okfn.be On 05 Jun 2015, at 08:35, joost schouppe joost.schou...@gmail.com wrote: Het aanbod van Pieter lijkt mij een offer we can't refuse. Pieter, welke avonden komen in aanmerking? Ik zou graag zo snel mogelijk een datum prikken, dan kunnen we beginnen promoten. Ruben, we zitten dicht tegen de Gentse feesten aan, misschien dat er dan al wel terug wat studenten in de stad zijn? Maar als het nu tegenvalt qua studenten, dan kunnen we het gewoon nog eens opnieuw doen eind september, begin oktober, niet? Allen, heeft er nog iemand opmerkingen bij het basisidee? ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Wallonia to publish data from OSM
I was thinking about that when the dataset will be published on their portal. I was also thinking that a Communique de presse / persmededeling could be published at this time. Do you think it would be necessary to do it now ? Julien Le 05/06/15 10:48, Nicolas Pettiaux a écrit : Great news. Much thanks. Could you write a post on the topic that could for example be published on OSM.be and that we could tweet on ? Much thanks for sharing, Nicolas Le Ven 5 juin 2015 10:05, Julien Fastré a écrit : Hi, Yesterday, I had a technical meeting with SPW about publishing data on their geoportail (http://geportail.wallonie.be). They are going to test a way to export data from osm database with their platform and publish it on their portail. I will write the metadata information (if someone is interested in participating, please raise your hand :-) ). I think it's a good news that they are ready to dive into manipulating osm data. I am in backup if they encounter difficulties. The first dataset will be a list of amenities (objects with tag amenity=*). It will be available under a csv and shapefile format, and should be updated every week. The dataset should be published in late September. Regards, Julien Fastré Le 13/03/15 15:46, Julien Fastré a écrit : Hi, Second news about Wallonia / Service public de Wallonie. From OpenBelgium we started a discussion with SPW. 1. They would be happy to publish data from OSM on the geoportail (http://geoportail.wallonie.be) ! The idea is to help people to find data without having to learn how to export them from OSM. They also have the will to support / help the contributor's work, and let this work known by the public. Currently, a first proposal of dataset to publish is a csv list of all amenities in Wallonia. This would be useful for people who do not have knowledge to export data from osm. The second proposal which was discussed was vector data about walking route (chemins balisés) (as here : http://hikebikemap.org/?zoom=13lat=50.46lon=5.88). They have data about Voies lentes (http://geoportail.wallonie.be/cms/render/live/en/sites/geoportail/home/geocatalogue.html?mdUUID=ef6dff90-aa13-41af-acbd-39ed8af6800d), they might add data about local routes on the geoportal, in a shapefile or GML form. Do you have other proposals which might be interesting to publish ? The criteria are : provide useful things, or things we are proud to provide (because it does not exists elsewhere, or because it is quite complete). 2. They are also thinking about using OSM tiles on WalOnMap. We will be invited to a meeting about this topic soon. Step by step, things goes progressing... Julien ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] comment taguer des panneaux biche (dot com) / animaux sauvages
Le 5 juin 2015 09:33, Jérôme Seigneuret jseigneuret-...@yahoo.fr a écrit : Sinon Comme Tony hazard=wild_animals et hazard=domestic_animals C'est surement un détail, mais ajouter crossing quelque part donne plus d'informations. Le danger vient bien de la traversée des animaux, si ils restent le long de la route ça ne pose pas de soucis hazard=wild_animals_crossing et hazard=domestic_animals_crossing non ? François ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Wallonia to publish data from OSM
Hi, Yesterday, I had a technical meeting with SPW about publishing data on their geoportail (http://geportail.wallonie.be). They are going to test a way to export data from osm database with their platform and publish it on their portail. I will write the metadata information (if someone is interested in participating, please raise your hand :-) ). I think it's a good news that they are ready to dive into manipulating osm data. I am in backup if they encounter difficulties. The first dataset will be a list of amenities (objects with tag amenity=*). It will be available under a csv and shapefile format, and should be updated every week. The dataset should be published in late September. Regards, Julien Fastré Le 13/03/15 15:46, Julien Fastré a écrit : Hi, Second news about Wallonia / Service public de Wallonie. From OpenBelgium we started a discussion with SPW. 1. They would be happy to publish data from OSM on the geoportail (http://geoportail.wallonie.be) ! The idea is to help people to find data without having to learn how to export them from OSM. They also have the will to support / help the contributor's work, and let this work known by the public. Currently, a first proposal of dataset to publish is a csv list of all amenities in Wallonia. This would be useful for people who do not have knowledge to export data from osm. The second proposal which was discussed was vector data about walking route (chemins balisés) (as here : http://hikebikemap.org/?zoom=13lat=50.46lon=5.88). They have data about Voies lentes (http://geoportail.wallonie.be/cms/render/live/en/sites/geoportail/home/geocatalogue.html?mdUUID=ef6dff90-aa13-41af-acbd-39ed8af6800d), they might add data about local routes on the geoportal, in a shapefile or GML form. Do you have other proposals which might be interesting to publish ? The criteria are : provide useful things, or things we are proud to provide (because it does not exists elsewhere, or because it is quite complete). 2. They are also thinking about using OSM tiles on WalOnMap. We will be invited to a meeting about this topic soon. Step by step, things goes progressing... Julien ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] SPW PICC 2000 map on JOSM (not 2000)
On 2015-06-04 14:57, Julien Fastré wrote : Hi Erik, This licence applies to the visualization service : http://geoportail.wallonie.be/files/LicServicesSPW.pdf The text is quite uncomprehensible. I had a discussion with them that it is not forbidden if you copy that on a map and mix with other data (what we do in OSM). Hi Julien, This is what I see (as conditions particulières I suppose) (my display set to English language): Conditions d'accès et d'utilisation - Aucune contrainte d'accès pour la consultation - Les termes de la licence s'appliquent. http://geoportail.wallonie.be/files/LicData.pdf - Les termes de la licence s'appliquent. http://geoportail.wallonie.be/files/LicData.pdf Obtaining formalities Pour toutes demandes, complétez le formulaire de licence (http://geoportail.wallonie.be/files/LicData.pdf) et l'envoyer à helpdesk.ca...@spw.wallonie.be But I see absolutely no explanation of what consultation and license allow to do. You once wrote that Minister Henry has told SPW (his department) to open all their data. And later that we can now copy the data. Maybe Minister Henry should be asked to be sure that the answer is what he wants. Also making sure that the boundary data belongs to the Belgian people represented by its government. To put an end to these endless discussions (repeated for every server), I have once opened a JOSM ticket suggesting that JOSM could read the © information from where it belongs in the server meta-data and display it to the JOSM user on first use of the server, any time the © is modified and on request. The ticket was closed with wontfix status. That doesn't make © seem an important topic. The PICC meta-data contains: Fees/FeesAccessConstraints/AccessConstraints In which case JOSM should automatically suggest the user to send a prepared e-mail to ContactElectronicMailAddresshelpdesk.ca...@spw.wallonie.be/ContactElectronicMailAddress suggesting them to fill meta-data as AccessConstraints©-URL Iso-date/AccessConstraints and referring to an OpenStreetMap document explaining what ©-URL should explain clearly for OSM usage. These are facts and is is in no way trying to convince that anybody is doing bad job as you claim, but is my usual suggestions to improve the situation. Unfortunately, they cannot be written in two lines as you request, just try. PS: I made a confusion when calling it PICC 2000 with DWG 2000 which is a data distribution format. PICC was created in 1991 and the last data update is 2015-01-08. But that does not say what exactly was updated and I don't see in PICC houses that are built for a long time, hence my confusion. Anyway, checking with the aerial layer is necessary, that's a reason why I made PICC transparent. André. Julien Le 29/05/15 21:21, Erik Beerten a écrit : Hello, I am Flemish but regularly mapping things in the south of Belgium. To be clear, is it correct that all map data on the Walloon PICC 2000 (including the shape of the buildings) are free for copying to OSM? PICC is about the same as the Flemish AGIV GRB map but the building shapes on that map may not be copied. Regards, Erik Op 23-05-15 om 18:14 schreef André Pirard: On 2015-05-15 15:13, Nicolas Pettiaux wrote : Dear all, I want to learn how to use JOSM and benefit from your work, and use the belgian settings whatever this is that as I suppose simplify the tasks. ... Bon maintenant, Regarding the Belgian settings, I have mentioned before that JOSM requires WMS EPSG:4326/3857 and reported to SPW in 2010 and here later that the best WA server, which was the PICC server, returned blank 4326 tiles. It even contained many WMS configuration errors such that JOSM failed to configure it automatically. There have been no follow-ups to those comments, just that they are not interesting. I have lately discovered purely by chance that the PICC bugs are now corrected. It's possible to configure it with JOSM. The optimized PICC configuration can be installed with: JOSMImageryImagery PreferencesRefresh JOSMImageryImagery Preferencesselect BE|SPW(allonie) PICC 2000 numerical imageryActivate You may want to remove layer 49 to prevent redundant street names obscuring the highways: In ...Selected entries:SPW(allonie) PICC...double-click column 2, edit 49, out, return ... OK Place names are in layers 56-60. The maximum zoom is 21. I have filed a request that JOSM scaled the images above that zoom. This will be done in June (JOSM guys are really great!). While waiting: JOSMWindowsLayersright-click SPW...PICC...turn OFF: Automatically change resolution JOSMView/Jump to Positionmap=21... or zoom=5 metres (repeat each time the layer is added) That PICC data is old (2000 I think, missing houses etc.). I wish the more recent BASE imagery were available for JOSM. But these do not support WMS EPSG:4326/3857 (;-) ). PICC has a wonderful 25 cm precision. May I recall that (airplane) *aerial **photographs are a
[talk-ph] Negros Island Region
Hi all, PNoy just signed Executive Order 183 today, June 5, creating the new Negros Island Region and composed of Negros Occidental (from Western Visayas) and Negros Oriental (from Central Visayas). News article: http://www.rappler.com/nation/95377-aquino-creates-negros-island-region Has anybody done the regrouping of administrative boundaries already? :-) ~Eugene ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] comment taguer des panneaux biche (dot com) / animaux sauvages
Le 05/06/2015 12:25, PanierAvide a écrit : C'est une solution, mais c'est à mon avis dommage de s'éloigner des pratiques internationales (plusieurs milliers de valeurs de traffic_sign avec des crochets) pour utiliser une méthode franco-française. C'est sûr que c'est pas la méthode la plus lisible, au même titre que la syntaxe opening_hours qui est pourtant pas mal utilisée. Une solution pour faciliter la saisie/compréhension serait d'ajouter un jeu de règles pour la France au plugin JOSM RoadSigns [1]. On reste sur du standard international, et en même temps c'est simple à saisir pour l'utilisateur. Si ça vous semble pas mal on peut voir pour travailler là dessus :) Cordialement. [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Plugins/RoadSigns +1 Et dans la collection des animaux sauvages, il faut ajouter celui-là : https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:France_road_sign_A23.svg -- FrViPofm ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [talk-ph] Negros Island Region
Ervin started it already: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/5247078#map=8/10.023/122.978 On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 7:42 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Trying to access Ervin's blog about it just now: http://www.s1expeditions.com/2015/06/193-negros-island-region.html On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 7:39 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, PNoy just signed Executive Order 183 today, June 5, creating the new Negros Island Region and composed of Negros Occidental (from Western Visayas) and Negros Oriental (from Central Visayas). News article: http://www.rappler.com/nation/95377-aquino-creates-negros-island-region Has anybody done the regrouping of administrative boundaries already? :-) ~Eugene ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden https://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ http://twitter.com/maningsambale -- -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden https://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ http://twitter.com/maningsambale -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] comment taguer des panneaux biche (dot com) / animaux sauvages
Le 5 juin 2015 10:40, Florian LAINEZ winner...@free.fr a écrit : J'aime ! Pour répondre au doute légitime de François, je pense que si ce tag est appliqué à un panneau ou à un tronçon de route, il est en effet évident que le crossing est sous-entendu. Merci. Il faudra alors le documenter assez vite et l'indiquer très clairement. Il y en a pour qui le sous-entendu n'est pas automatique. Le 5 juin 2015 12:25, PanierAvide panierav...@riseup.net a écrit : C'est une solution, mais c'est à mon avis dommage de s'éloigner des pratiques internationales (plusieurs milliers de valeurs de traffic_sign avec des crochets) pour utiliser une méthode franco-française. C'est sûr que c'est pas la méthode la plus lisible, au même titre que la syntaxe opening_hours qui est pourtant pas mal utilisée. Il y a plein de pratiques internationales qui sont nettement moins pertinentes que ce qu'on peut proposer en local et c'est le cas ici. On se retrouve avec des chaines de texte de plus en plus complexes à manipuler alors que Florian propose à juste titre de mieux répartir l'information. Une solution peut tout à fait être utilisée faute de mieux et ici on vois bien les bénéfices de la nouvelle idée. Une solution pour faciliter la saisie/compréhension serait d'ajouter un jeu de règles pour la France au plugin JOSM RoadSigns [1]. On reste sur du standard international, et en même temps c'est simple à saisir pour l'utilisateur. Si ça vous semble pas mal on peut voir pour travailler là dessus :) On va finir par ne plus pouvoir se passer d'un éditeur aux fonctions avancées sans lequel on ne connaitra plus les règles d'édition des tags. Le plugin RoadSigns est très utile par ailleurs, mais il est préférable de définir une clé ou valeur pour chaque chose. A+ François ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] comment taguer des panneaux biche (dot com) / animaux sauvages
C'est une solution, mais c'est à mon avis dommage de s'éloigner des pratiques internationales (plusieurs milliers de valeurs de traffic_sign avec des crochets) pour utiliser une méthode franco-française. C'est sûr que c'est pas la méthode la plus lisible, au même titre que la syntaxe opening_hours qui est pourtant pas mal utilisée. Une solution pour faciliter la saisie/compréhension serait d'ajouter un jeu de règles pour la France au plugin JOSM RoadSigns [1]. On reste sur du standard international, et en même temps c'est simple à saisir pour l'utilisateur. Si ça vous semble pas mal on peut voir pour travailler là dessus :) Cordialement. [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Plugins/RoadSigns Le 05/06/2015 11:37, Florian LAINEZ a écrit : Le 1 juin 2015 13:52, PanierAvide panierav...@riseup.net mailto:panierav...@riseup.net a écrit : J'ai vu que l'ajout du panonceau d'étendue (M2) pouvait se faire en séparant par une virgule (qui permet d'indiquer que les deux sont liés, voir [1]). On aurait par exemple : traffic_sign=FR:A15b,M2[500m] pour une étendue de 500m. Pour revenir sur ce sujet, je comprends que cette solution est la plus pertinente si on a un panneau complexe à décrire (genre http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/67/Road_signs_bilingual_Breton_in_Quimper.jpg/400px-Road_signs_bilingual_Breton_in_Quimper.jpg) Mais la lisibilité me parait vraiment difficile car tout est rassemblé dans la même clef et surtout on doit utiliser des [ ] Plan B : on créé une clef spécifique au panonceau qui se rapporte au panneau : * Exemple pour un panneau biche qui s'applique sur 500m : traffic_sign=FR:A15b FR:A15b:M2=500m * Exemple pour un panneau biche RAPPEL : traffic_sign=FR:A15b FR:A15b:M9z1=rappel ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-be] SPW PICC 2000 map on JOSM (not 2000)
Hi, - Aucune contrainte d'accès pour la consultation means that there is no constraints to consult the data. For them, copying the data from the PICC into OSM by JOSM is not copying... That's the answer I had. And as this is an answer which agrees me, I won't try to have another, which would make me unhappy... Unless not before we can gather a hundred of people in front of the Governement Walloon to ask more, or simply have an hundred of people joining open knowledje (http://www.openknowledge.be/) and creating a mass movement. The situation is not the best and it is not clear, I admit and they reckon that, and some people are doing a great job inside the administration to make things going better. Philippe Henry is not Minister any more for one year, now. (off-topic : And I am not sure that I would be happy if what a minister is decided is immediatly executed... That's a part of democraty. Even if it slows down things when they go in a way I am happy with. I prefer this situation). The WMS service definition is not up to date, you already have mentioned that. Julien Le 05/06/15 13:01, André Pirard a écrit : On 2015-06-04 14:57, Julien Fastré wrote : Hi Erik, This licence applies to the visualization service : http://geoportail.wallonie.be/files/LicServicesSPW.pdf The text is quite uncomprehensible. I had a discussion with them that it is not forbidden if you copy that on a map and mix with other data (what we do in OSM). Hi Julien, This is what I see (as conditions particulières I suppose) (my display set to English language): Conditions d'accès et d'utilisation - Aucune contrainte d'accès pour la consultation - Les termes de la licence s'appliquent. http://geoportail.wallonie.be/files/LicData.pdf - Les termes de la licence s'appliquent. http://geoportail.wallonie.be/files/LicData.pdf Obtaining formalities Pour toutes demandes, complétez le formulaire de licence (http://geoportail.wallonie.be/files/LicData.pdf) et l'envoyer à helpdesk.ca...@spw.wallonie.be But I see absolutely no explanation of what consultation and license allow to do. You once wrote that Minister Henry has told SPW (his department) to open all their data. And later that we can now copy the data. Maybe Minister Henry should be asked to be sure that the answer is what he wants. Also making sure that the boundary data belongs to the Belgian people represented by its government. To put an end to these endless discussions (repeated for every server), I have once opened a JOSM ticket suggesting that JOSM could read the © information from where it belongs in the server meta-data and display it to the JOSM user on first use of the server, any time the © is modified and on request. The ticket was closed with wontfix status. That doesn't make © seem an important topic. The PICC meta-data contains: Fees/FeesAccessConstraints/AccessConstraints In which case JOSM should automatically suggest the user to send a prepared e-mail to ContactElectronicMailAddresshelpdesk.ca...@spw.wallonie.be/ContactElectronicMailAddress suggesting them to fill meta-data as AccessConstraints©-URL Iso-date/AccessConstraints and referring to an OpenStreetMap document explaining what ©-URL should explain clearly for OSM usage. These are facts and is is in no way trying to convince that anybody is doing bad job as you claim, but is my usual suggestions to improve the situation. Unfortunately, they cannot be written in two lines as you request, just try. PS: I made a confusion when calling it PICC 2000 with DWG 2000 which is a data distribution format. PICC was created in 1991 and the last data update is 2015-01-08. But that does not say what exactly was updated and I don't see in PICC houses that are built for a long time, hence my confusion. Anyway, checking with the aerial layer is necessary, that's a reason why I made PICC transparent. André. Julien Le 29/05/15 21:21, Erik Beerten a écrit : Hello, I am Flemish but regularly mapping things in the south of Belgium. To be clear, is it correct that all map data on the Walloon PICC 2000 (including the shape of the buildings) are free for copying to OSM? PICC is about the same as the Flemish AGIV GRB map but the building shapes on that map may not be copied. Regards, Erik Op 23-05-15 om 18:14 schreef André Pirard: On 2015-05-15 15:13, Nicolas Pettiaux wrote : Dear all, I want to learn how to use JOSM and benefit from your work, and use the belgian settings whatever this is that as I suppose simplify the tasks. ... Bon maintenant, Regarding the Belgian settings, I have mentioned before that JOSM requires WMS EPSG:4326/3857 and reported to SPW in 2010 and here later that the best WA server, which was the PICC server, returned blank 4326 tiles. It even contained many WMS configuration errors such that JOSM failed to configure it automatically. There have been no follow-ups to those
Re: [talk-ph] Negros Island Region
Trying to access Ervin's blog about it just now: http://www.s1expeditions.com/2015/06/193-negros-island-region.html On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 7:39 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, PNoy just signed Executive Order 183 today, June 5, creating the new Negros Island Region and composed of Negros Occidental (from Western Visayas) and Negros Oriental (from Central Visayas). News article: http://www.rappler.com/nation/95377-aquino-creates-negros-island-region Has anybody done the regrouping of administrative boundaries already? :-) ~Eugene ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden https://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ http://twitter.com/maningsambale -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [Talk-GB] Quick tagging question
On Fri Jun 5 14:15:09 2015 GMT+0100, Wittle, Paul wrote: Hi, Is it ok to add a tag 'addr:county' when drawing properties, it doesn't seem to be an officially recognised tag but I can find some references to it online? Also, would you put sub-districts of a town (i.e. Wyke Regis in Weymouth) under 'addr:place'? I would say yes, people navigate by county so it is helpful. Official is just royal mails means of delivering the mail. Phil (trigpoint ) -- Sent from my Jolla ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Quick tagging question
On 05/06/15 14:15, Wittle, Paul wrote: Hi, Is it ok to add a tag 'addr:county' when drawing properties, it doesn't seem to be an officially recognised tag but I can find some references to it online? Also, would you put sub-districts of a town (i.e. Wyke Regis in Weymouth) under 'addr:place'? Best Regards, Paul Wittle Paul, You can add any tag for any purpose that suits you, there are no official tags. Adding addr:county fits in the apparent address hierarchy, but some would say it is superfluous because the county that the place is in can be calculated by seeing which county boundary relation the location is in. That depends on having intact boundaries (they usually are) and the means to run 'is-in' calculations. PostGIS extension to PostgreSQL helps with that. In some edge cases it may be better to tag to be sure. Some people don't even add the addr:city tag for the same reasons but I always do, not least because in villages a civil parish boundary can have more than one named place in it. The fact is there is no right and wrong way to do this, do what suits you - but not everyone else will follow you. -- Cheers, Chris user: chillly ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Quick tagging question
The Royal Mail has deprecated the use of counties in addressing. The PAF (Postcode Address File) no longer contains counties. In any case, I think you are only talking about postal counties which are only a fictional concept anyway. Is Bromley in Kent? Is Uxbridge in Middlesex? Only in the past. Administratively they are both in London. //colin On 2015-06-05 15:22, p...@trigpoint.me.uk wrote: On Fri Jun 5 14:15:09 2015 GMT+0100, Wittle, Paul wrote: Hi, Is it ok to add a tag 'addr:county' when drawing properties, it doesn't seem to be an officially recognised tag but I can find some references to it online? Also, would you put sub-districts of a town (i.e. Wyke Regis in Weymouth) under 'addr:place'? I would say yes, people navigate by county so it is helpful. Official is just royal mails means of delivering the mail. Phil (trigpoint ) ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[OSRM-talk] Clarification about shortest path
Hello, I successfully use OSRM for months, and I would like to thank the developing team for this wonderful project. I have always wondered if the viaroute query in server API actually computes shortest path (distance) or fastest path (time). The official github wiki says shortest, but this page (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Routing/online_routers) says fastest. When I compare results with YOURS, OSRM seems to compute fastest paths. Then, is there a way to compute real shortest paths ? Will alternative routes be a mean to get correct shortest paths ? Thank you in advance, Regards ___ OSRM-talk mailing list OSRM-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osrm-talk
Re: [Talk-GB] Quick tagging question
On 05/06/15 14:15, Wittle, Paul wrote: Is it ok to add a tag 'addr:county' when drawing properties, it doesn't seem to be an officially recognised tag but I can find some references to it online? I don't think it's necessary if the postcode has been added. Also, would you put sub-districts of a town (i.e. Wyke Regis in Weymouth) under 'addr:place'? Again for UK addresses, only the house identifier plus postcode is necessary. However it depends what tools you are using to view the data. I've been going in and adding missing postcodes for osmand which builds the rest of the data itself, but it is tool dependent. -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-it] addr:postcode sui place
Non si cancella nulla: si contatta l'utente e si avvia con lui un confronto. Magari è un novellino e ha bisogno di guida... Saluti Fabrizio Il 05/Giu/2015 14:51, Andrea Musuruane musur...@gmail.com ha scritto: Ciao, sistemando dei bug con OSM Inspector mi sono accorto che ci sono diversi place a cui è stato aggiunto un addr:postcode. Secondo me è errato perché le chiavi addr:* dovrebbero essere usate solo sugli indirizzi. Inoltre, non credo sia corretto neanche sostituire le chiavi addr:postcode con postal_code perché secondo il wiki quest'ultimo è usato solo per le strade e per i boundary=postal_code. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:postal_code Sarei quindi per una rimozione di queste chiavi. La seguente query overpass riporta tutti i casi in oggetto (limitati al Piemonte): osm-script query into=regione type=area has-kv k=admin_level modv= v=4/ has-kv k=name modv= v=Piemonte/ /query union query type=node area-query from=regione / has-kv k=addr:postcode / has-kv k=place / /query query type=way area-query from=regione / has-kv k=addr:postcode / has-kv k=place / /query item/ recurse type=down/ /union print mode=meta / /osm-script Ciao, Andrea ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM is a right mess (was: Craigslist OpenStreetMap Rendering Issue)
oneway=no is very clear to me and different to not having a oneway value at all. this way it means it was surveyed and it is not a oneway. maybe with lit=yes or lit=no is more clear that is actually adds something of value? greets, floris On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 2:04 AM, pmailkeey . pmailk...@googlemail.com wrote: iD shows oneway=unknown if it's not set. If it's unknown, iD should not show oneway at all. In OSM if oneway=no then it's not oneway and the oneway tag should not appear at all. The only time oneway should appear is in the case of oneway=yes - and the '=yes' is superfluous. OSM's k=v design is completely a serious and unnecessary flaw. Similarly are 'categories' like man_made', and 'amenity'. Why can we not simply stick to hard facts rather guessing what categor(ies) an object fits in A fountain is a fountain. It does not matter if it is - an amenity - man made - natural water (???!!) etc. Such categorization is semi-ambiguous; people think differently and are happy to categorize differently - and more - argue over categories. OSM is 90% argument, 5% dead-end discussions and 5% progress. The whole is not a marketable product; it's not fit to be rated as 'beta'. Is this a significant cause of ex-mappers ? It's a flipping brilliant project but sadly lacking a great leader. -- Mike. @millomweb https://sites.google.com/site/millomweb/index/introduction - For all your info on Millom and South Copeland via *the area's premier website - * *currently unavailable due to ongoing harassment of me, my family, property pets* TCs https://sites.google.com/site/pmailkeey/e-mail ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[Talk-it] addr:postcode sui place
Ciao, sistemando dei bug con OSM Inspector mi sono accorto che ci sono diversi place a cui è stato aggiunto un addr:postcode. Secondo me è errato perché le chiavi addr:* dovrebbero essere usate solo sugli indirizzi. Inoltre, non credo sia corretto neanche sostituire le chiavi addr:postcode con postal_code perché secondo il wiki quest'ultimo è usato solo per le strade e per i boundary=postal_code. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:postal_code Sarei quindi per una rimozione di queste chiavi. La seguente query overpass riporta tutti i casi in oggetto (limitati al Piemonte): osm-script query into=regione type=area has-kv k=admin_level modv= v=4/ has-kv k=name modv= v=Piemonte/ /query union query type=node area-query from=regione / has-kv k=addr:postcode / has-kv k=place / /query query type=way area-query from=regione / has-kv k=addr:postcode / has-kv k=place / /query item/ recurse type=down/ /union print mode=meta / /osm-script Ciao, Andrea ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-GB] Quick tagging question
Hi, Is it ok to add a tag 'addr:county' when drawing properties, it doesn't seem to be an officially recognised tag but I can find some references to it online? Also, would you put sub-districts of a town (i.e. Wyke Regis in Weymouth) under 'addr:place'? Best Regards, Paul Wittle GIS Developer Tel: 710 8473 This e-mail is intended for the named addressee(s) only and may contain information about individuals or other sensitive information and should be handled accordingly. Unless you are the named addressee (or authorised to receive it for the addressee) you may not copy or use it, or disclose it to anyone else. If you have received this email in error, kindly disregard the content of the message and notify the sender immediately. Please be aware that all email may be subject to recording and/or monitoring in accordance with relevant legislation. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [OSM-talk-be] een mapping party in Gent
Ik wou al een Doodle uitsturen om te zien wat voor de geïnteresseerden het handigste was, maar plots een praktische bedenking. Mijn idee was om te focussen op POIs, omdat dat nog de grootste lacune is in een stad als Gent. En daarbij is het vooral interessant om extra data te verzamelen, zoals openingsuren. Maar 's avonds is bijna alles dicht natuurlijk, en lang niet iedereen heeft openingsuren hangen. Bovendien dacht ik iedereen die gemapped wordt van een flyertje te voorzien met wat info over OSM. Ruben, wanneer doen jullie de dataverzameling in winkelstraten? Op een zaterdag lijkt mij ook al niet echt ideaal, gezien de grote drukte. Iemand bedenkingen? Deze keer een andere focus (openbeermap anyone?) en wachten op de volgende Avondshopping? (zie bijvoorbeeld http://www.uitinvlaanderen.be/agenda/e/avondshopping/1756215a-1ea6-4571-91c7-ebaa33b37c29 ) Op 5 juni 2015 11:20 schreef Jo winfi...@gmail.com: Om het mee te organiseren, zal je aan mij niet veel hebben. Maar ik wil wel mee komen doen om wat uitleg te geven. mvg, Jo Op 5 juni 2015 11:17 schreef Pieter-Jan Pauwels pieter-jan.pauw...@okfn.org: Hallo Joost, Wij zitten in Gent in de week van 13 juli. Elke avond daar kan gerust in aanmerking komen. We mogen dan de gebouwen van Digipolis Gent gebruiken voor onze studenten en ik denk wel dat we een OSM event mogen koppelen. Zoniet kan ik vragen aan iMinds die achter de hoek zitten of we daar geen vergaderzaal of de Start Up Garage voor kunnen openstellen. Onze studenten zullen zeker geïnteresseerd zijn en misschien zijn een paar mensen binnen de Start Up Garage dat ook. Wij willen gerust wat mee pushen in de communicatie als dat toch in combinatie met open Summer of code kan plaatsvinden. Laat maar weten wat jou past en dan bekijk ik de locatie. Groeten, Pieter-Jan [image: photo] *Pieter-Jan Pauwels* Community Coordinator, Open Knowledge Belgium m: +32 476 66 27 77 +32%20476%2066%2027%2077 | e: pieter-jan.pauw...@okfn.org | w: okfn.be On 05 Jun 2015, at 08:35, joost schouppe joost.schou...@gmail.com wrote: Het aanbod van Pieter lijkt mij een offer we can't refuse. Pieter, welke avonden komen in aanmerking? Ik zou graag zo snel mogelijk een datum prikken, dan kunnen we beginnen promoten. Ruben, we zitten dicht tegen de Gentse feesten aan, misschien dat er dan al wel terug wat studenten in de stad zijn? Maar als het nu tegenvalt qua studenten, dan kunnen we het gewoon nog eens opnieuw doen eind september, begin oktober, niet? Allen, heeft er nog iemand opmerkingen bij het basisidee? ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] comment taguer des panneaux biche (dot com) / animaux sauvages
Le fait que l'animal croise la route ne fait qu'augmenter l'énergie lors du choc élastique potentiel. Un animal qui stationne sur la route reste un réel danger... ;) Y'a du coupage de tag en 4 dans le coin, non ? Le 05/06/2015 09:43, François Lacombe a écrit : Le 5 juin 2015 09:33, Jérôme Seigneuret jseigneuret-...@yahoo.fr mailto:jseigneuret-...@yahoo.fr a écrit : Sinon Comme Tony hazard=wild_animals et hazard=domestic_animals C'est surement un détail, mais ajouter crossing quelque part donne plus d'informations. Le danger vient bien de la traversée des animaux, si ils restent le long de la route ça ne pose pas de soucis hazard=wild_animals_crossing et hazard=domestic_animals_crossing non ? François ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [Talk-at] Wiener Katastralgemeinden
On 03.06.2015 17:30, industrieze...@gmx.net wrote: Die Grenzen der Katastralgemeinden gibt es zwar noch nicht als Open-Data aber sie sind im Flächenwidmungs- und Bebauungsplan genau ersichtlich und genauer als die Wikipedia-Skizze. http://www.wien.gv.at/flaechenwidmung/public/ (Checkbox Katastralgemeinden Grenzen aktivieren) Guter Tipp. Ich hab mich mal über http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/57877117 lustig gemacht, indem ich es mit der Braunschen Bewegung verglichen hab. Aber nun zeigt sich, dass unsere Katastralgemeinden nicht viel besser sind. Leichte Zweifel an der Genauigkeit seien mir erlaubt, da die Grenzen kreuz und quer durch Grundstücke und Gebäude durchgehen und auch auf Straßen und Wegen zwischen den Rändern hin und her schwenken. Aber natürlich allemal genauer als in der Wikipedia. Im Süden hab ich inzwischen einige Katastralgemeinden gemappt und dabei festgestellt, dass die KG Mauer schon seit Sep 2011 auf ziemlich genau die selbe Weise gemappt war, nämlich von Geojosef, der sich anscheinend auf seine Heimat-KG beschränkt hat. Nachahmer fanden sich keine. Ich hoffe, das ändert sich jetzt, denn ich kann nicht ganz Wien alleine machen. (Naja, können schon, aber andere Projekte haben höhere Priorität.) -- Friedrich K. Volkmann http://www.volki.at/ Adr.: Davidgasse 76-80/14/10, 1100 Wien, Austria ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
Re: [Talk-GB] Quick tagging question
Depends what administration you are talking about; in government terms perhaps, but Bromley RFC's part of the Kent RFU and Uxbridge of Middlesex. Government admin is not the be all and end all... On 05/06/2015, Colin Smale colin.sm...@xs4all.nl wrote: The Royal Mail has deprecated the use of counties in addressing. The PAF (Postcode Address File) no longer contains counties. In any case, I think you are only talking about postal counties which are only a fictional concept anyway. Is Bromley in Kent? Is Uxbridge in Middlesex? Only in the past. Administratively they are both in London. //colin On 2015-06-05 15:22, p...@trigpoint.me.uk wrote: On Fri Jun 5 14:15:09 2015 GMT+0100, Wittle, Paul wrote: Hi, Is it ok to add a tag 'addr:county' when drawing properties, it doesn't seem to be an officially recognised tag but I can find some references to it online? Also, would you put sub-districts of a town (i.e. Wyke Regis in Weymouth) under 'addr:place'? I would say yes, people navigate by county so it is helpful. Official is just royal mails means of delivering the mail. Phil (trigpoint ) -- Yours aye, Tom ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-it] entrare nelle classi di geografia?
Ti ringrazio Francesca della segnalazione, davvero un'ottima pagina web! Il progetto Globolocal citato in quell'articolo mi ha fatto venire in mente la cartina planetaria capovolta che avevo trovato qualche anno fa in una rivista, e che per me era stata una vera folgorazione: mai avrei immaginato quanto la convenzione nord -- sopra e sud - sotto fosse così radicata nella mia testa, e da lì è cominciato il mio interesse per la geografia che in tempi recenti mi ha portato a scoprire OSM... (Per chi non avesse mai visto queste mappe, cerchi in internet upside down maps, poi fatemi sapere le vs impressioni, così scopro se ero stato io ad essere particolarmente ottuso...) Contraccambio segnalando il bel corso on-line di Coursera Maps and the Geospatial Revolution ( https://www.coursera.org/course/maps https://www.coursera.org/course/maps ) : è in inglese , ma almeno i video introduttivi sono sottotitolati in italiano. Il corso è finito da poco, ma ci si può prenotare per la prossima edizione (tra le letture consigliate per questo corso c'è il text-book che ho trovato fatto molto bene: https://www.e-education.psu.edu/natureofgeoinfo/ https://www.e-education.psu.edu/natureofgeoinfo/ , ahimè solo in inglese). Un saluto a tutti, Marco P.S. Senz'altro una buona idea per diffondere OSM, entrare nelle classi di geografia : peccato che le ultime riforme abbiano smantellato la Geografia come materia nelle scuole superiori, come raccontato anche nella pagina web da te segnalata... -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/entrare-nelle-classi-di-geografia-tp5847134p5847263.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-GB] Fwd: [Talk-scotland] State of the Map Scotland
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[Talk-de] Anfrage
Hi, für eine Machbarkeitsstudie / Demo möchte ich gerne in der Umgebung von Trier und Wittlich jeweils ca. 10 Relationen anlegen. Damit es klar erkenntlich ist möchte ich den folgenden Aufbau vorschlagen: - boundary=jff-test - ref=XX - note=Verweis auf das ML-Archiv - evtl. noch ein Unterkey in der Form ref:=X Die Nodes möchte ich separat setzen, damit die Daten komplett wieder entfernt werden können und nicht die Historie der bestehenden Nodes aufblähe. Die Dauer wäre für maximal 4 Wochen. Etwas zu dem Hintergrund: Wir schreiben ein Open Source Programm zur Auftrags- und Mitarbeitersteuerung. Für dieses Programm haben wir einen Sponsor gefunden, der jedoch vor seiner Zusage ein zumindest teilweise funktionsfähiges Beispiel sehen möchte. Als Feedback für OSM kann das Programm eine Zuordnung Straße / Hausnummer zu Koordinaten zur Verfügung stellen. Die Daten werden später auf jedem Fall auf einem externen Server liegen. Ich bitte Euch um Eure Meinung dazu. Danke im Voraus. CU Jörg ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM-US: directions please
As far as I know in the regular MTA map ( http://web.mta.info/maps/submap.html) for any given line the stations with black dots are locals and the ones with white dots are combination/express ones. So you just have to take a look at what train numbers/letters stop in those stations to know which ones are locals (6 in the green line) and which ones are express (4 and 5 for that exampe). Sometimes, to save time on a really long run, you can take the express to the last combination station before the local station that you are trying to reach, and you just change trains there to do that last slow leg. Cheers, Julio Costa Zambelli Fundación OpenStreetMap Chile julio.co...@openstreetmap.cl http://www.openstreetmap.cl/ Cel: +56(9)89981083 On 4 June 2015 at 17:58, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: On 4 June 2015 at 21:20, Julio Costa Zambelli julio.co...@openstreetmap.cl wrote: Knowing ... which train is the local and the express in any given line How can you tell? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [Talk-de] Anfrage
On Friday 05 June 2015, Jörg Frings-Fürst wrote: Hi, für eine Machbarkeitsstudie / Demo möchte ich gerne in der Umgebung von Trier und Wittlich jeweils ca. 10 Relationen anlegen. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Sandbox_for_editing -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-GB] Quick tagging question
All of those parts of the former parts of Middlesex within Greater London and outside postal London retained Middlesex as part of the address long after 1965, see wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postal_counties_of_the_United_Kingdom. These days it is not clear that the addresses are 'official' in any sense. The Royal Mail is a private firm in a deregulated market, albeit one with a near monopoly position, and ownership of post codes. Street names house numbers are official because these are allocated by local government. It seems to me poor practice to base our address naming on the Royal Mail's (frequently) changing needs for postal delivery. Of course we may want to identify the way that RM uses postal towns etc., in order to produce outputs similar to PAF; but I really see little value in addr:city in the form Kinlochbervie, by Lairg or the multiple places in Nottinghamshire which totally counter intuitively have Newark as their post town. In practice this means that I tend to avoid trying to make judgements about what should go in addr:city unless there is a clear possibility of ambiguity. Given the multiple uses for which this information might be used it seems best to allow consuming applications to determine which address elements other than street/housenumber are required. It would be interesting to see what decision the OpenAddresses project has taken in this regard. Jerry On 5 June 2015 at 17:54, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: On 05/06/15 15:15, SK53 wrote: An example from my own experience: failure to differentiate between the two Hayes in Greater London, cost a Spanish University involvement in a multi-million Euro project. They arrived 3 hours late for start of meeting by which time we had identified roles for everyone else. Hayes, Middlesex Hayes, Kent are still better identifiers than using London Borough boundaries which are unlikely to be well known even by people from the other side of London. Having just worked through the same point on the Facebook places mistakes, it is clear that 'borough' is a primary key these days, so Hayes, Hillingdon and Hayes, Bromley are the CURRENT correct locations. Middlesex ceased to exist in 1965, when Hillingdon came into existence, while a large section of Kent was transferred to Greater London by the same 1963 act. But it is perhaps not surprising that 50 years on, people still hang on to the old names? Facebook recognises https://www.facebook.com/pages/Hayes-Bromley/112359098779648 and https://www.facebook.com/pages/Hayes-Kent/257684507604168 but only https://www.facebook.com/pages/Hayes-Hillingdon/108434975843564. However none of them can be used as a 'place', for which only https://www.facebook.com/pages/Hayes-Slough-United-Kingdom/106517172716184 exists currently. So lets keep with the official designations if one must add county/borough information to every object ... which does seem a futile exercise? -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-it] Civici senza addr:street
Am 05.06.2015 um 11:07 schrieb Federico Cortese cortese...@gmail.com: Più che altro ho avvisato giggls che ha creato il nodo anch'io;-) ha risposto che ha cercato di fissare il problema. Il nodo fa parte di un import del 2008, dati di Deutsche Telekom, tra i quali c'erano degli errori... ciao Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] comment taguer des panneaux biche (dot com) / animaux sauvages
Faudrait-il ajouter des infos sur l'énergie potentiellement dégagée? voir par exemple :)http://chassequebec.com/2009/05/orignal-accident-routier/ Pierre De : Christian Quest cqu...@openstreetmap.fr À : talk-fr@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Vendredi 5 juin 2015 10h28 Objet : Re: [OSM-talk-fr] comment taguer des panneaux biche (dot com) / animaux sauvages Le fait que l'animal croise la route ne fait qu'augmenter l'énergie lors du choc élastique potentiel. Un animal qui stationne sur la route reste un réel danger... ;) Y'a du coupage de tag en 4 dans le coin, non ? Le 05/06/2015 09:43, François Lacombe a écrit : Le 5 juin 2015 09:33, Jérôme Seigneuret jseigneuret-...@yahoo.fr a écrit : Sinon Comme Tony hazard=wild_animals et hazard=domestic_animals C'est surement un détail, mais ajouter crossing quelque part donne plus d'informations. Le danger vient bien de la traversée des animaux, si ils restent le long de la route ça ne pose pas de soucis hazard=wild_animals_crossing et hazard=domestic_animals_crossing non ? François ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [Talk-GB] Quick tagging question
On 05/06/15 18:44, SK53 wrote: All of those parts of the former parts of Middlesex within Greater London and outside postal London retained Middlesex as part of the address long after 1965, see wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postal_counties_of_the_United_Kingdom. These days it is not clear that the addresses are 'official' in any sense. The Royal Mail is a private firm in a deregulated market, albeit one with a near monopoly position, and ownership of post codes. Street names house numbers are official because these are allocated by local government. The county of Middlesex ceased to exist in 1965. Royal Mail retained 'former postal counties' because of the cost of changing them, but the area they call 'Middlesex' expanded to included surrounding areas and existed as a name up until 1996, It is quite clear these days what the property designation is as per the NLPG, but as demonstrated with the Hayes, Bromley example, while the postal address IS now Bromley, many locals continue to add 'Kent'. It is perhaps because of the old 'Middlesex' connection that the current miss-identification of many of those towns is 'Slough' in the Facebook places list has come about. Since it is a council responsibility to create new street names, the post office simply add postcodes to an existing entity and therefore the borough or county designation is well defined? No new roads will be created as 'Middlesex'. I lived in Hewens Road, Hillingdon, Middlesex until the mid 90's ... Royal Mail now call it Hewens Road, Uxbridge, but it is some distance from Uxbridge. Hayes, Middlesex is now simply 'Hayes' according to Royal Mail and Hayes, Kent is now simply 'Bromley' so it is perhaps understandable that locals do not take much notice of the PAF file? Facebook do not allow me to tag my home address at that time and putting 'Uxbridge' is simply wrong, so it is nice that OSM almost gets it right ... Hewens Road, Hayes, London Borough of Hillingdon, London, Greater London ... Now if I can just get the Hayes corrected to Hillingdon! The Hillingdon tag on OSM is much closer to Hewens Road than Hayes is ... now that I'm actually looking, http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2325649033 should be a 'town'? Is the 'suburb designation outranking Hillingdon's town tag? Hayes, Bromley does not seem to exist in OSM? Derick has Hayes Station, but OSM put's it in West Wickham, London Borough of Bromley, London, Greater London. While GeoNames has an entry for Hayes, Bromley, OSM it seems does not? -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-cz] RÚIAN, Doplňkové soubory SO bez č.p./č.ev.
Dobrý den, chápete to úplně správně :-). Přesně takto jsou soubory koncipovány. Budu rád, pokud byste narazil na nějakou nesrovnalost, když mě budete kontaktovat. Ať se Vám práce daří! Petr Souček -Original Message- From: Petr Vejsada [mailto:o...@propsychology.cz] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 10:25 PM To: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic Subject: Re: [Talk-cz] RÚIAN, Doplňkové soubory SO bez č.p./č.ev. Dobrý večer, děkuji, nevěděl jsem a už stahuji. Jestli tomu správně rozumím, tak v případě, že si databázi stále udržuji pomocí změnových souborů, tak by mi mělo stačit nahrát si tyto doplňkové soubory pouze jednou. Případné změny v obsahu těchto dat budou zahrnuty ve změnových souborech. Chápu správně? Díky. -- Zdraví Petr Vejsada Dne Čt 4. června 2015 22:01:50, Petr Souček napsal(a): Dobrý večer, možná jste zaznamenali, že na základě vašich připomínek jsme zveřejnili doplněk k výměnnému formátu RÚIAN. V části Doplňkové soubory SO bez č.p./č.ev. jsou vystaveny měsíční stavové soubory VFR, které doplňují standardní stavové soubory o specifické stavební objekty a parcely, které nejsou standardně jejich součástí. Zveřejněno 1.6.2015 Doplňkové soubory SO bez č.p./č.ev. Pro uživatele VFR jsou k dispozici dva doplňkové měsíční stavové soubory se stavebními objekty (SO) a parcelami. * Soubor MMDD_ST_SO3PGP obsahuje SO bez č.p./č.ev. (typu 3) s identifikační parcelou z potvrzeného geometrického plánu, tzv. budoucího stavu, kdy parcela ještě není zplatněna v ISKN, * Soubor MMDD_ST_SO3PM obsahuje SO bez č.p./č.ev. (typu 3) s identifikační parcelou v minulosti (zrušená parcela). Tyto SO jsou obsahem změnového VFR, ale již se nedostanou do stavového VFR. Nahráním doplňujících souborů dojde ke konzistenci v obsahu stavových a změnových souborů VFR. SO neobsahují polygony, parcely neobsahují polygony ani definiční body. Soubory ke stažení http://data.cuzk.cz/vfr-doplnek - http://data.cuzk.cz/vfr-doplnek/ viz http://www.cuzk.cz/Uvod/Produkty-a-sluzby/RUIAN/2-Poskytovani-udaju-RU IAN-IS UI-VDP/Vymenny-format-RUIAN/Vymenny-format-RUIAN-%28VFR%29.aspx Mějte se prima Petr Souček ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [Talk-it] Mapatura scaloni campo sportivo.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Il 02/06/2015 22:30, girarsi_liste ha scritto: Creo due poligoni, perchè il tetto non copre tutti gli scaloni, almeno, dovrei ripassare a vedere per sicurezza. Allora, sono passato e gli scaloni sono coperti, per cui resta building=grandstand, in questo caso, resta da capire le altre situazioni dove non è coperto come uniformarsi, ma se è previsto che il valore grandstand è già coperto, allora andrà aggiunto covered=no? Poi ci sono gli scalini di mezzo e lì bisogna mettere covered=yes nel caso di copertura? - -- Simone Girardelli _|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_ |_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_| -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJVcg1/AAoJEMTPIIVov0ZtZFYH/RE0w2jYvSdDPFtdKCwQE0Tc Lw6jzXV+cgGsR/XKz2dgNvr0gI8sS9D02pHlxc8k1BtpGm0i2IoMd3dbbSl9+AnJ pwJmi74vaePFh+YDdojZ4dYxJI5pFhtOitRL4ueHaHAwNH7/eH9rCWlNuWKP9RTN wH736/1V9jHTY/2N4ZUlb73sVCU6XmyjOxyqnwYfnffgAYdidyGPUUFN4k01qH8Z t6k7TjhDaZCVYxQQnaVa0aXgagGC9F3UiTpx3ipHWehjdGw4r99zm6o+dYrSyhXr RHHm52xI3ZZktGHvPw1XCVvurxbHIPvTbEnwIfFAFYCvI/afba5yq4oh5nXuU9U= =5c4+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[OSM-talk-ie] Where's the coastline?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I just wanna check something, to make sure I'm mapping coastlines properly. I'm working around the Clare coast, mapping townlands, and I'm unsure where the coastline is when there is a lot of tides or estuary. In this area: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=14/52.7762/-8.9752 There's lots of mud flats(?) that I'm not marking as coastline, but the GSGS maps show that they are land. You can see that I've chopped Islanddavanna Upper in half. Am I mapping coastlines correctly here? Rory -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJVcgbCAAoJEOrWdmeZivv2P1oIAJAcSkjqcs0ApmxQ90veUnn4 5k/MDDqTsDruQ9s2HimnUEtycw2D3xJiqdLCdY+A/GjS13ZJgHzxl/FlQ325oY3T 4Lk+Bx7q49kD5hjj1WjwPWDjOgBgzISh+2Z5B+OMEagLwDWur3RpyRc86Bl6SyaJ ku4AIjplUEgKw2tYYh1jFqh00vtGg9nfROfHxyc10zHnH7wyyz+vz+ZHYPRBlDGl cY39DEBxgIqdIClyMopitCLH1Ua81uArzNyyHQhuDc0FZZMP9qOFRYYBen6Q4xMa BZ/YHl1PyJAvLT8njuXfMNt2SOkrZqfao4H6kbmHSVLQZtsTt6SeRb41pKm3AUM= =t6ko -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Talk-ie mailing list Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie
Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM-US: directions please
On 4 June 2015 at 18:48, Julio Costa Zambelli julio.co...@openstreetmap.cl wrote: From any Airport terminal you take the Airtrain to Howard Beach (NOT Jamaica) Not this weekend. It's closed (Fri-Mon inclusive) for maintenance. There's a free shuttle bus (*very* badly signposted, at least at terminal 4) to the Airtrain stop at Federal Circle; then a free Aitrtain shuttle service to Jamaica *only*. The queues [sic] were horrendous, and disorganised. I got the E train from Jamaica to 14th St; your directions were most helpful from there. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM-US: directions please
I had the same problem till Federal Circle back in October (also it was 1:00AM and I had to pick-up a friend arriving at a different terminal around the same time, so the whole inter-terminal bus ride made quite an story), but from there on the AirTrain was working to Howard Beach and the only surprise was the every station stopping express trains at that time of the night (not bad since I was going to a local station). Jamaica is still fine (actually that's the way I did it the first time I went to NYC), but I definitely prefer Howard Beach and the A train. As long as everything is working ;) Julio Costa Zambelli Fundación OpenStreetMap Chile julio.co...@openstreetmap.cl http://www.openstreetmap.cl/ Cel: +56(9)89981083 On 5 June 2015 at 20:00, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: On 4 June 2015 at 18:48, Julio Costa Zambelli julio.co...@openstreetmap.cl wrote: From any Airport terminal you take the Airtrain to Howard Beach (NOT Jamaica) Not this weekend. It's closed (Fri-Mon inclusive) for maintenance. There's a free shuttle bus (*very* badly signposted, at least at terminal 4) to the Airtrain stop at Federal Circle; then a free Aitrtain shuttle service to Jamaica *only*. The queues [sic] were horrendous, and disorganised. I got the E train from Jamaica to 14th St; your directions were most helpful from there. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Where's the coastline?
On 05/06/2015, Rory McCann r...@technomancy.org wrote: Hi, I just wanna check something, to make sure I'm mapping coastlines properly. I'm working around the Clare coast, mapping townlands, and I'm unsure where the coastline is when there is a lot of tides or estuary. In this area: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=14/52.7762/-8.9752 There's lots of mud flats(?) that I'm not marking as coastline, but the GSGS maps show that they are land. You can see that I've chopped Islanddavanna Upper in half. Am I mapping coastlines correctly here? It's always going to be a subjective call. In this particular case, I think that these mud flats are making a fine case for land status, quoting Mackerski in http://pastebin.com/rbniH18e. If you look closely, you can see man-made paths There's a clear one at the south end of the west mud flat, and there are a few bridges connecting your coastline to the mud flats. On the other hand, most of the surface does get covered by high tides, so according to that IRC discussion and the wiki, it should be on the sea side of the coastline. So I mostly agree with your tweaks on the west side, but I'd map the path at the south end with a sliver of land around it. And in any case, map the natural=wetland .wetlang=saltmarsh/tidal_flat area. ___ Talk-ie mailing list Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie
Re: [Talk-at] Wiener Katastralgemeinden
Wie verfahren wir mit Katastralgemeinden, die genau einem Bezirk entsprechen? Grenzrelation duplizieren? Gab es da nicht einmal eine ähnliche Diskussion mit der Grenzrelation der Stadt Wien? Am 05 Jun 2015 um 16:32 schrieb Friedrich Volkmann b...@volki.at: On 03.06.2015 17:30, industrieze...@gmx.net wrote: Die Grenzen der Katastralgemeinden gibt es zwar noch nicht als Open-Data aber sie sind im Flächenwidmungs- und Bebauungsplan genau ersichtlich und genauer als die Wikipedia-Skizze. http://www.wien.gv.at/flaechenwidmung/public/ (Checkbox Katastralgemeinden Grenzen aktivieren) Guter Tipp. Ich hab mich mal über http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/57877117 lustig gemacht, indem ich es mit der Braunschen Bewegung verglichen hab. Aber nun zeigt sich, dass unsere Katastralgemeinden nicht viel besser sind. Leichte Zweifel an der Genauigkeit seien mir erlaubt, da die Grenzen kreuz und quer durch Grundstücke und Gebäude durchgehen und auch auf Straßen und Wegen zwischen den Rändern hin und her schwenken. Aber natürlich allemal genauer als in der Wikipedia. Im Süden hab ich inzwischen einige Katastralgemeinden gemappt und dabei festgestellt, dass die KG Mauer schon seit Sep 2011 auf ziemlich genau die selbe Weise gemappt war, nämlich von Geojosef, der sich anscheinend auf seine Heimat-KG beschränkt hat. Nachahmer fanden sich keine. Ich hoffe, das ändert sich jetzt, denn ich kann nicht ganz Wien alleine machen. (Naja, können schon, aber andere Projekte haben höhere Priorität.) -- Friedrich K. Volkmann http://www.volki.at/ Adr.: Davidgasse 76-80/14/10, 1100 Wien, Austria ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
[Talk-us] Whole-US Garmin Map update - 2015-06-03
These are based off of Lambertus's work here: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl If you have questions or comments about these maps, please feel free to ask. However, please do not send me private mail. The odds are, someone else will have the same questions, and by asking on the talk-us@ list, others can benefit. Downloads: http://daveh.dev.openstreetmap.org/garmin/Lambertus/2015-06-03 Map to visualize what each file contains: http://daveh.dev.openstreetmap.org/garmin/Lambertus/2015-06-03/kml/kml.html FAQ Why did you do this? I wrote scripts to joined them myself to lessen the impact of doing a large join on Lambertus's server. I've also cut them in large longitude swaths that should fit conveniently on removable media. http://daveh.dev.openstreetmap.org/garmin/Lambertus/2015-06-03 Can or should I seed the torrents? Yes!! If you use the .torrent files, please seed. That web server is in the UK, and it helps to have some peers on this side of the Atlantic. Why is my map missing small rectangular areas? There have been some missing tiles from Lambertus's map (the red rectangles), I don't see any at the moment, so you may want to update if you had issues with the last set. Why can I not copy the large files to my new SD card? If you buy a new card (especially SDHC), some are FAT16 from the factory. I had to reformat it to let me create a 2GB file. Does your map cover Mexico/Canada? Yes!! I have, for the purposes of this map, annexed Ontario in to the USA. Some areas of North America that are close to the US also just happen to get pulled in to these maps. This might not happen forever, and if you would like your non-US area to get included, let me know. -- Dave ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[talk-ph] Interesting take on mapathons and remote mapping.
Lets work more the local community. What I mean by local is hyper-local. Its tedious and cumbersome but, its the right thing to do. https://twitter.com/maningsambale/status/606833843207696384 Posting this just after a workshop on hazard and evacuation route mapping with 2 village groups. Map is offline (in manila papers) but will definitely help them in times of crisis. cheers, Maning Sambale (mobile) ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
